[00:00] <reduz> what's this? why am i being sent here? i don't understand all this broken dcc stuff
[00:04] <bazhang> LjL, cobalt being justified? not really as just moments before ikanobori was really way worse and he said nary a peep.
[00:04] <bazhang> aubade was just being , well, a bit too frank
[00:05] <reduz> i can't join #unbutu, why is this? my router can't be upgaded further, i just disconnected and reconnected because my isp sucks
[00:05] <Flannel> reduz: Read the topic of the channel you're sent to when you try and join #ubuntu
[00:06] <Flannel> The link there gives you a page with other methods besides just update your firmwar
[00:06] <Flannel> e
[00:06] <gnomefreak> bazhang: he/she was like that this morning just not as bad IIRC
[00:07] <reduz> Flannel, says it's not able to test me
[00:08] <LjL> bazhang: i think i might have fixed the attitudes of both cobalt and aubade anyway
[00:08] <LjL> i've been very catalising.
[00:08] <LjL> catalystic
[00:08] <LjL> catalizering.
[00:08] <LjL> that.
[00:09] <bazhang> oh permabans
[00:09] <LjL> reduz is not banned from #ubuntu to my knowledge
[00:09] <Flannel> LjL: bansearch says so
[00:10] <LjL> bansearch might say so, but the channel's banlist doesn't...
[00:10] <LjL> at least not by nick
[00:10] <Flannel> Hmmm
[00:10] <bazhang> floodbots seem to
[00:10] <Flannel> you're right.  Removed March 22.  Why is BT inconsistent?
[00:10] <reduz> LjL, well but i can't join, it sends me to #ubuntu-read-topic
[00:11] <LjL> hmm
[00:11] <bazhang> wait LjL you really did the cattle-eratization thing with them.
[00:11] <Flannel> reduz: Try getting tested again.
[00:12] <LjL> bazhang: i what?
[00:12] <reduz> Flannel, i just get malformed requests
[00:12] <LjL> yeah, you aren't vulnerable at this time
[00:12] <LjL> but i just don't see you in the banlist
[00:12] <Flannel> reduz: try #ubuntu now
[00:12] <reduz> great, thanks
[00:13] <bazhang> LjL, you didnt ban cobalt nor aubade from what I can tell
[00:13] <gnomefreak> change port # for freenode and call it a day
[00:13] <Flannel> gnomefreak: He's already fixed the vuln.
[00:13] <LjL> bazhang: no, i talked to them both
[00:13] <gnomefreak> Flannel: ah
[00:13] <LjL> i dunno about reduz
[00:13] <Flannel> Just needed to get tested, etc.
[00:13] <LjL> i can swear he wasn't in the banlist
[00:14] <LjL> which is confirmed by the fact that the bot set -b reduz!*@*
[00:14] <LjL> not -b reduz!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic
[00:14] <LjL> might be server desync, though
[00:14] <LjL> kornbluth (iirc) was desynced some days ago
[00:14] <Flannel> actually,
[00:14] <Flannel> 17:07 -!- mode/#ubuntu [-b reduz!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic] by FloodBot3
[00:14] <Flannel> That was 7 minutes ago.
[00:14] <LjL> oooh...
[00:15] <Flannel> (at the same time he originally asked for the test, and was reported as not a known victim)
[00:15] <Flannel> so... some bug there
[00:15] <Flannel> Er, apparently a second test?
[00:15] <Flannel> Ah!  And the removal was after I asked ubottu, and before I checked BT proper
[00:15] <Flannel> which, explains that discrepency.
[00:15] <LjL> yes
[00:16] <LjL> it's probably just that floodbot1 (the one giving messages in -read-topic) didn't have that ban recorded for some reason
[00:16] <LjL> but floodbot3 did
[00:18] <mc44> Hello! I would like to follow LjL's formal proceudrez
[00:18] <rww> me2
[00:18] <LjL> mc44, don't be silly
[00:18] <nickspoon> That's a jolly good idea.
[00:18] <LjL> if we're talking about a troll
[00:18] <LjL> then we don't want them to have a list of their previous nicknames cited in their presence
[00:18] <LjL> so, daemonfc is almightycthulu?
[00:19] <bazhang> yes
[00:19] <rww> Daemon* is AlmightyCthulhu, who has been banned before for being a pain in the ass. He's still a pain in the ass.
[00:19] <LjL> and he's not also DaemonNET, and the other "Daemon" we've had these days?
[00:19] <bazhang> he is unstable frankly
[00:19] <mc44> If you haven't noticed, the person in there is Ryan Farmer, aka AlmightyCthulu amongst other names, his blog being http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com, wot I recognised from the whole hilarious Foxconn thing with mjg59
[00:19] <bazhang> daemondeb
[00:19] <LjL> (who, on his turn, was xavierg2003 - so i don't think so)
[00:19] <bazhang> no that is a different daemon
[00:19] <LjL> mc44: no, i haven't noticed, or i wouldn't be asking for clarification
[00:20] <LjL> how do you know it's him?
[00:20] <rww> DaemonFC, DaemonXP, and DaemonDEB are the same person, I think.
[00:20] <mc44> LjL: because he linked to his blog
[00:20] <LjL> ok
[00:20] <nickspoon> The guy referred to the blog that mc44 linked as his blog.
[00:20] <rww> [DaemonDEB] (n=ryan@c-67-173-86-85.hsd1.il.comcast.net): ryan
[00:20] <rww> which is on the DaemonXP account
[00:20] <bazhang> we've known its him for several days now
[00:21] <bazhang> <--due to someone's brilliance :)
[00:21] <LjL> i suppose he's not "supposed" to be banned from -ot just yet?
[00:21] <bazhang> oh I mean mc44's
[00:21] <LjL> if we have known that, why is it not in a BT comment? ;)
[00:21] <mc44> also, why is he not banned?
[00:21] <nickspoon> ^ was about to ask.
[00:22] <LjL> i'll ban
[00:22] <LjL> he seems to be banned already, and ban evading
[00:22] <nickspoon> Any objections?
[00:22] <Flannel> ban evasion... no contest.
[00:22] <mc44> I have enjoyed following ur formal procedures. Thank you for you timez
[00:22] <LjL> no.
[00:22] <nickspoon> Good.
[00:22] <rww> thanks :)
[00:23] <LjL> bazhang: search for c-69-245-138-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net in the tracker
[00:23] <LjL> that address isn't marked as unbanned
[00:23] <LjL> and that is him
[00:23] <bazhang> LjL, yep
[00:23] <bazhang> LjL, its been known for some time.
[00:24] <bazhang> though so has groovyorange
[00:24] <LjL> bazhang: as in, he's ban evading but nobody is enforcing it...?
[00:24] <bazhang> LjL, yes, again due to mc44's sleuthing
[00:25] <LjL> bazhang: why don't you just ban then? ban evasion is enough of an offence
[00:25] <nickspoon> He's quite the sleuth.
[00:25] <bazhang> sportily, sp0rt1-->nick'd to groovyorange
[00:25] <LjL> OH HIM
[00:25] <Myrtti> LjL: access list
[00:25] <LjL> BAN HIM
[00:25] <LjL> Myrtti: fair point
[00:25] <bazhang> ljl not wise enough to be op in thar
[00:25] <LjL> but bazhang, this stuff would be helped by comments in the BT
[00:26] <LjL> if i see these people "mildly trolling", i won't really ban them unless there's something substantial on the BT
[00:26]  * Myrtti goes to bed
[00:26] <LjL> and having "this is the same person as the ban evader xyz" IS substantial enough
[00:26] <LjL> i can't add you to the access list, but i can do *that* much
[00:26] <bazhang> LjL, okay; I made the connection very clear on several occasions to folks who *do* have access there.
[00:27] <LjL> bazhang: the BT is a neutral party. trust it.
[00:27] <bazhang> LjL, in future I will confine all comments to BT
[00:27] <Flannel> Well, they don't need to be confined there.
[00:27] <bazhang> ie @mark and such
[00:27] <Flannel> But, if they aren't there, they don't exist for more than a few hours.
[00:28] <bazhang> @mark #kubuntu tarfart continued profanity attitude
[00:28] <bazhang> ^^
[00:29] <LjL> bazhang: no, you don't have to CONFINE them there
[00:29] <LjL> just PUT them there
[00:31] <bazhang> LjL, will do
[00:31] <bazhang> I have /msg'd ubottu
[00:34] <LjL> bazhang: so to put things together - mc44 mentioned also mjg59? that's the same person?
[00:35] <bazhang> LjL, ryan farmer = izanbardprince (foxconn guy who blog dueled with mjg) = daemondeb/xp/fc/one other (mkv?)
[00:35] <LjL> ugh, what a mess
[00:36] <bazhang> LjL, in bt also as almightycthulhu
[00:36] <LjL> bazhang: "mkv" perhaps you're thinking "DaemonMDV"?
[00:36] <bazhang> LjL, yes that is the one
[00:44] <LjL> bazhang: see the comments i did on my kickban in -ot for an example of what i mean when i say tracking the troll. albeit admittedly a limited example as this isn't a troll i followed myself.
[00:45] <bazhang> LjL, point taken. its actually a nice channel when the trollage is down to a minimum.
[00:56] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Why yes, the cute little kitties *were* nude.  I suppose your bot was right, technically.
[00:57] <tonyyarusso> LjL: btw, the site in question was Deviant Art.  It seems to blacklist the whole thing, regardless of the specific content linked.
[00:58] <tonyyarusso> (watchbot that is)
[00:58] <LjL> tonyyarusso: no it doesn't
[00:58] <LjL> tonyyarusso: i've put deviantart on whitelist this morning, so it doesn't
[00:59] <tonyyarusso> ah, ok :P
[00:59] <tonyyarusso> Did at the time then
[01:01] <LjL> tonyyarusso: yes it did, that's what i call a "trial run" ;)
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> LjL: did you make the list to start off with or get one somewhere?
[01:02] <LjL> tonyyarusso: deviantart and imageshack are now whitelisted, and also, if a site is in the "Image sharing" category, then it won't be warned on, even if it's also in other "bad" categopries
[01:02] <LjL> tonyyarusso: no, i use http://domain.opendns.com
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> smart
[01:28] <Pricey> there is a 'kubuntu brainstorm'...
[01:29] <Pricey> no prizes for guessing who has got it going
[01:29] <bazhang> ryanakca, ??
[01:29] <bazhang> err sorry ryanakca 
[01:29] <bazhang> oof
[01:30] <bazhang> Pricey, either riddell or ryanakca ?
[01:30] <Pricey> Not quite where I was aiming.
[01:30] <bazhang> hints?
[01:30] <bazhang> starts with a ju? std?
[01:31] <bazhang> unless this is one of those 'need to know' type deals :)
[01:32] <LjL> bazhang: perhaps it's a "want to know" deal
[01:32] <ryanakca> Pricey: *shrug*, google shows people asking for one on kubuntu-users and Ubuntu brainstorm...
[01:33] <bazhang> ryanakca, sorry for the unneccesary highlight :)
[01:33] <Pricey> ryanakca: I'm not convinced that's why it came about. But makes me feel better :)
[01:36] <LjL> !b > lenin_cat    (lenin_cat, see the private message from ubottu)
[04:05] <Flannel> erm.... yeah.  I'm out of it.
[04:11] <Flannel> ubottu: tell felix_da_catz about away
[04:23] <Flannel> Mmm, that likely was premature, but I don't really want to read that site much
[04:39] <Flannel> bazhang: I don't think so.
[04:39] <Flannel> But, certainly suspect.
[04:39] <bazhang> Flannel, okay thanks
[04:50] <Flannel> bazhang: I have no idea how evilGUI was determined to be the owner
[04:50] <Flannel> I certainly can't see any correlation
[04:50] <bazhang> Flannel, nor can I
[04:53] <Flannel> I certainly don't like it in there, that's for sure.
[04:54] <bazhang> nope
[05:38] <Flannel> ubottu: tell Andre_Gondim-afk about away
[07:10] <stdin> looking at the BT, I'd say the auto-comment-with-hostmask think is working well
[07:10] <Flannel> It certainly makes it easier
[07:11] <stdin> no errors in the log
[07:11]  * stdin is happy
[07:33] <bazhang> be nice if serial ban evader in -ot were dealt with (grooveorang1)
[07:37] <topyli> it does seem hard to get rid of this guy
[07:38] <bazhang> yep
[09:27] <bazhang> hope that is 'this'
[09:44] <jussi01> of cours it is...
[11:15] <Servarium> k
[11:35] <bazhang> http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/20081207.html.gz    groovyOrang1 (today) n=Username@217.8.236.168
[12:16] <bazhang> like talking to a brick wall
[12:48] <bazhang> oh lord
[12:51] <gionnico_> hi! can you unban me from #ubuntu ?
[12:51] <bazhang> gionnico_, never suggest that
[12:51] <bazhang> gionnico_, not even as a joke.
[12:51] <bazhang> !coc > gionnico_ 
[12:51] <bazhang> !guidelines | gionnico_ 
[12:52] <bazhang> gionnico_, read both of those.
[12:52] <gionnico_> i thought it was good for the channel to answer him so he would stop flooding
[12:52] <gionnico_> i'm gonna read ^_^
[12:52] <bazhang> gionnico_, it is NEVER a good idea to suggest that.
[12:53] <gionnico_> i guess someone may try it even if it was for "ruining up his system"
[12:53] <gionnico_> and then come complain: why did that command ruined up my system?
[12:53] <bazhang> gionnico_, many new users have no idea about that command.
[12:53] <bazhang> gionnico_, so never suggest it, ever.
[12:54] <gionnico_> ok
[12:57] <bazhang> gionnico_, please dont idle here as per the channel topic
[12:58] <gionnico_> but i am still banned :/
[12:58] <bazhang> gionnico_, come back in 24 hrs to review
[12:58] <gionnico_> ok bye
[13:09] <mneptok> if any of you are church-goers, please pray woowoo finds us a new home this week.
[13:10]  * mneptok is buried in rental and home sale info
[14:05] <Tm_T> Servarium: hi how can we help you?
[14:06] <Servarium> hi Tm_T
[14:07] <Servarium> ive been banned from #ubuntu-nl for 4 months now
[14:07] <Servarium> i'd like to be unbanned
[14:07] <bazhang> #ubuntu-irc for that Servarium 
[14:07] <Servarium> k
[14:07] <bazhang> please part this channel Servarium 
[14:13] <LjL> what is Servarium doing here?
[14:14] <LjL> he won't have any luck getting himself unbanned, anyway.
[14:14] <LjL> (oh and sorry again for the ! ops)
[14:15] <LjL> (no, i'm not doing it on purpose. although i enjoy it a bit)
[18:02] <Flannel> ubottu: tell Mud|lunch about away
[18:38] <Flannel> Erm... floodbots don't remove CTCP Versioners anymore? just ban?
[19:10] <Flannel> ubottu: tell Dracie about away
[20:22] <LjL> Flannel: they never did, they always just banned
[20:23] <LjL> who cares whether they get removed anyway, if youùre banned you are banned
[20:25] <Flannel> LjL: If you aren't removed, you can still get names/etc
[20:26] <Flannel> although, I suppose anyone trying to harvest nicks won't CTCP the channel
[22:04] <Shizuo> I'm here to make friends
[22:19] <jussi01> wth?
[22:19] <jussi01> LjL: whats the story eith him?
[22:20] <LjL> jussi01: check the BT.
[22:20] <jussi01> LjL: I was hoping to avoid that...
[22:20] <jussi01> I wanted your 1 line view...
[22:21] <LjL> jussi01: my one line view? complete troll, good at it, funny in certain ways, but i'm just upset i couldn't kick him from ##windows and ##linux too
[22:21] <jussi01> hehe, ok
[22:22] <LjL> jussi01: http://ircwall.snuxoll.com/quotes/80
[22:23] <jussi01> ahh
[22:24] <jussi01> completely know what he is doing... they are the ones who get funny.... but still annoying 
[22:25] <LjL> jussi01: yesterday he was in ##windows giving semi-helpful answers to people, and "mistakenly" inserting my nickname in the middle of every message
[22:26] <jussi01> hehehehe... thats just nasty
[22:26] <LjL> yeah, well, perhaps he doesn't realize i have him on highlight *anyway*
[22:26] <jpds> freudian slip!
[22:28] <LjL> jpds: do you think he loves me?
[23:16] <LjL> everyone, i've added another feature to watchbot for the #ubuntu-it guys to make it look *inside* linked sites, and warn if they contain "bad" keyphrases such as "sudo passwd root"
[23:17] <LjL> do you think that might be appropriate for #ubuntu too?
[23:29] <Seeker`> sounds reasonable
[23:32] <LjL> i've also sent mail to the IRC ML about watchbot, to clarity its purpose etc
[23:57] <LjL> tritium, look at epc1 in #ubuntu - he's also in #ubuntu-us-nm