[00:00] <Sibert> who can help me with gDesklets
[00:00] <dr_willis> Sibert:  state a bit more of a question to the channel  and someone might
[00:00] <kaski> _Whipper: Why do you say that?
[00:00] <Taram> I don't know if I can help Sibert but whats up with gdesklets
[00:00] <ultrasonic> Is there a way to find which application is causing/using a certain process ..?
[00:01] <keithclark> I just don't get why my machines are unique here.....trying to figure it out.
[00:01] <Sibert> i fixed a problem with the 'countdown2'
[00:01] <_Whipper> kaski: i'll let you wonder, but did you see the topic?
[00:01] <Sibert> but now i have a new problem
[00:01] <Gnea> !ot | _Whipper, kaski
[00:01] <lepine> sorry, this is OT, but i don't know where else to ask ... how could one go about importing emails from outlook express (i only have the files) into ANYTHING that could push them back to an IMAP server?
[00:01] <Sibert> and i can't finf it on google
[00:01] <Aar0n> Hi, I've installed Java with sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk, however I still cannot view Java Applets and such. I have checked that Java is enabled in firefox, and have also restarted etc.
[00:01] <kaski> _Whipper: Nop
[00:01] <Sibert> name 'msgLegend' is not defined
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[00:01] <Sibert> >   1 __retrieve__ = msgLegend
[00:01] <tq|Memphis> DasEi, yes
[00:02] <_Whipper> thank you Gnea :)
[00:02] <DasEi> tq|Memphis: try to activate it
[00:02] <tq|Memphis> DasEi, its activated
[00:02] <DasEi> tq|Memphis: so you're fine then
[00:02] <noodlesgc> Aar0n try installing the sun-java5-plugin package
[00:02] <tq|Memphis> DasEi, yes thanks, enjoying my movie :>
[00:03] <Taram> I am sorry Sibert, but that is beyond my experiences
[00:03] <Taram> hm....but can you post your problem at the gdesklet page
[00:04] <Taram> and did you check google groups?
[00:04] <ultrasonic> keithclark, you still haven't burnt the dvds .. !!. anyway did you try making an iso file and then burning ?
[00:04] <Sibert> i undo wath i did to fix the first problem:
[00:04] <Sibert> /usr/share/gdesklets/Displays/countdown/countdown2.display
[00:04] <Sibert> >   1 currentTime = get_control('ITime:7qktelp6tw29ve5p8q3lxn6bs-2')
[00:04] <Sibert> maybe you can fix that?
[00:04] <keithclark> ultrasonic: yeah, tried that route
[00:04] <Taram> sometimes google groups is very usefull
[00:04] <Sibert> wth is google groups?
[00:04] <Krusty_K> so i can load cd/dvd's and read them fine but when i put in a blank cd it doesn't recognize it or let me burn to it any suggestions
[00:05] <kaski> Siber: ya mum
[00:05] <Taram> http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg
[00:06] <_VIM_> kaski: go troll someplace else, just because an op hasnt caught on to you yet (I have for 5 mins now) doesnt mean they wont see what you're up to sooner or later
[00:06] <ultrasonic> keithclark, even that didnt work? are you burning into empty dvd or trying multisession ?
[00:06] <keithclark> ultrasonic: just another excuse for the family to force me back to xp
[00:06] <_Whipper> kaski: try some other channel.. like #catfight or whatever..
[00:06] <psychic> does anyone know of a form of ubuntu that has higher display settings than 800 by 400
[00:06] <psychic> ?
[00:07] <Krusty_K> blank cd/dvd's just dont mount at all
[00:07] <dr_willis> psychic:  that made little sence.. if your video card drivers are correct.. you can do whatever res they can do.
[00:07] <calmor15014> psychic - what are your video drivers?
[00:07] <keithclark> ultrasonic: I cannot even erase a dvd....cannot format.....anything I try with the physical dvd/cd drive is not successful.  on all machnes
[00:07] <psychic> i dont know of the top its a toshiba lap top
[00:07] <dr_willis> Time to do some research then perhaps...
[00:08] <dr_willis> 'toshiba laptop' is rather.. broad. :)
[00:08] <psychic> i did some research on post and lots of people seem to have display trouble on toshibas
[00:08] <_Whipper> psychic: 1440*900 on my laptop
[00:08] <dr_willis> Yep - laptops can be an issue. but you need to figure out what your video card chipset is.
[00:08] <baz> where are driver files located, most specifically for my wifi card? I would like to copy it to a usb drive
[00:08] <keithclark> psychic: No problems here on my A10 laptop
[00:08] <psychic> any chance u could guide me to it real quik
[00:08] <calmor15014> Do you know what video chipset it has?
[00:08] <Stephan> Hi.  When I boot my system I need to deactivate and reactivate my wireless driver every time.
[00:09] <Stephan> It says 'driver is activated but not in use'
[00:09] <psychic> im a newbi to this
[00:09] <psychic> i have an a 25
[00:09] <dr_willis> !ati
[00:09] <Stephan> and I cannot see it in my connection manager until I disable and re-activate it.   How do I fix this?  And how do I make it remember the network I was last connected to or save a default SSID?
[00:10] <_Whipper> Stephan: : ever heard pen and paper?-)
[00:10] <noodlesgc> baz, I think they are in /lib/modules. wifi would be in /lib/modules /lib/modules/<kernel build & version>/build/drivers/net/wireless
[00:10] <Stephan> pen and paper for what?
[00:11]  * Sibert gaat op BNC
[00:11] <baz> noodlesgc, thanks
[00:11] <_Whipper> Stephan: to remember where you were, and SSID and stuff
[00:11] <Stephan> ... that doesn't help automate anything
[00:12] <Stephan> the point of my question is so i dont have to constantly reactivate and select the same ssid i am always using
[00:12] <cellofellow> I've installed libasound2-plugins from the source package (too enable the JACK plugin) but apt really wants to upgrade it.
[00:12] <_Whipper> Stephan: sorry, my bad.
[00:12] <Stephan> lol
[00:12] <_Whipper> jep :)
[00:12] <cellofellow> Can I tell APT to go ahead but do it from the source only?
[00:12] <Stephan> im just wanting the network manager to be more like xp's or vistas =P
[00:12] <ksbalaji> I use Ubuntu 8.04 OS. I have a service zeroconf application. What do I use it for please?
[00:13] <pato> Olá =D
[00:13] <Chousuke> cellofellow: you'll have to rebuild the source package manually.
[00:13] <_Whipper> Stephan: Now That was rude .. :)
[00:13] <pato> hello
[00:13] <Krusty_K> yeah i hae that issue and have to do it manually sometimes there is a file u can edit to make a default connection but dont remember where
[00:13] <Jeruvy> ksbalaji: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeroconf
[00:13] <scunizi> What does ubuntu have like Picasa's ability to create a CSS driven photo album.. I've got some shots I'd like to throw up on some spare web space and don't want to mess with CMS
[00:13] <Chousuke> cellofellow: that is, if you want to upgrade.
[00:13] <ksbalaji> Jeruvy, thanks.
[00:13] <noodlesgc> cellofellow well I believe that installing from source does not replace the one from apt. apt installs to /usr/* source would most likely install to /usr/local/*
[00:14] <Chousuke> cellofellow: you can also tell apt to hold back the package.
[00:14] <pato> Does anyone knows portuguese?
[00:14] <Chousuke> cellofellow: I think it's aptitude hold packagename
[00:14] <militant> scunizi  gallery2 is pretty awesome (though complex)
[00:14] <scunizi> militant: I was looking at that but you need to be running your own server right? or have it on a linux based server?
[00:14] <Stephan> hmm
[00:14] <Stephan> wth
[00:15] <SPF> !es | pato
[00:15] <calmor15014> Guys (and gals) - quick question.  I have a Mythbuntu 8.10 x64 box that last night rebooted by itself with no prompting... where might I look in the logs to figure out what caused the event?
[00:15] <bobzilla> I'm not getting any audio through hdmi can someone please help me out with that?
[00:15] <cellofellow> no, it installed to /usr. I used the apt-get source
[00:15] <jeremy_> i need help i nstalled xubuntu and my other harddrive with ntfs would show up know i updated xubuntu and that drive dont show in my media folder?
[00:15] <noodlesgc> !pt | pato
[00:15] <militant> scunizi   you asked what ubuntu has.  so yes.  linux server.  but it doesn't have to be your own.  a lot of admins like gallery and might even be running it already
[00:16] <sanyi> hi all
[00:16] <ultrasonic> hi need some help ,Is there a way to find which application is using/started a certain process ..?
[00:16] <noodlesgc> cellofellow, if that is so, I would try uninstalling it from apt, and just using the one you built from source
[00:16] <Stephan> what the hell
[00:16] <Stephan> and firefox i can play music in flash
[00:16] <pato> hi sanyi
[00:16] <Stephan> but in the music player  it says it cannot open the device for playback
[00:16] <scunizi> militant: this is a unique situation.. just personal web space provided by my isp (10gigs) to throw individual pages up.. I think it's on a windows server.  Picasa will build a nice css driven page to display a folder of pics.. simple stuff
[00:17] <cellofellow> noodlesgc: no, I used apt-get source to build the Ubuntu package, I didn't download the tarball and install with make.
[00:17] <militant> scunizi  ok, and picasa exists for linux, and windows.  so there you go, i think?
[00:17] <Krusty_K> so in a home environment(learning purposes) for a networking student are there any important points for installing server
[00:17] <cellofellow> noodlesgc: but for some reason I can't convince apt that the version I built is "newer" than the one in the repos.
[00:17] <Krusty_K> aka something that would cause me to reinstall later
[00:17] <scunizi> militant: yea.. I was resisting.. gwenview will do it but it pulls in a boat load of kde dependancies.
[00:17] <Stephan> hmm  so much for help here :(
[00:18] <militant> scunizi  also there are a few simple gallery/thumb generator scripts for linux that will make a dir you can zip up and sned over to that server
[00:18] <noodlesgc> cellofellow. ah. why not upgrade using apt. then re-get the source and install that.
[00:18] <scunizi> militant: you've got my interest
[00:18] <cellofellow> I'll see if that works.
[00:19] <cellofellow> Either way I need the version without JACK stripped out.
[00:19] <militant> lemme check for a couple, i was playing with some last night til i settled on gallery2 (for its rich featureset and being able to add pics on the fly)
[00:19] <scunizi> k
[00:19] <jeremy_> i need help i nstalled xubuntu and my other harddrive with ntfs would show up know i updated xubuntu and that drive dont show in my media folder?
[00:19] <jeremy_> i need help i nstalled xubuntu and my other harddrive with ntfs would show up know i updated xubuntu and that drive dont show in my media folder?
[00:19] <militant> photon, webmagick, and lazygal had reasonable results
[00:20] <scunizi> militant: all in repos?
[00:20] <jeremy_> i need help i nstalled xubuntu and my other harddrive with ntfs would show up know i updated xubuntu and that drive dont show in my media folder?
[00:20] <DasEi> jeremy_:does mount list it ?
[00:20] <DasEi> does*
[00:20] <militant> scunizi  sure are, they come right up on an apt-cache search gallery
[00:20] <bobzilla> Could someone please help me.  I have tried the ubuntu forums but I can't get sound to work through hdmi on my computer.
[00:21] <scunizi> militant: thanks.. probably just what I was looking for.. simple direct ..one off type stuff.  thanks!
[00:21] <militant> yep.  i do believe webmagick was the one that i could just specify a directory full of pics and a thumbnail size, and it made the thumbs, generated the page, and put it all in an easy to deploy package
[00:22] <scunizi> militant: that's what I'm looking for
[00:22] <L3dPlatedLinux> was wondering if there is a way to back up the sources list and if there was a list of sources to make ubuntu even that much better then it already is ? (knowing that would be hard to do )
[00:22] <jeremy_> no it does not
[00:22] <Ramesses> what do you, guys, use to view "svgz" files? i'm trying to open one [from http://futurist.se/gldt/ ] with both gthumb and "eye of gnome" but to no avail
[00:23] <Excell> I went through sessions to automate firestarter... when i shut it off..@ boot up it still gives me an error = you do not have permissions.....and solutions?
[00:23] <Flannel> Ramesses: thats svg files that are gzipped, I believe.  Rename it to svg.gz and you should be able to unzip, and then view
[00:23] <Excell> any*
[00:23] <Ramesses> Flannel, that's what i thought; i opened the "svgz" file with file archiver and it doez list one file in the "archize" but it can't extract it
[00:23] <scunizi> militant: is webmagick gui or cli?
[00:24] <bogdan_> any opinion what is the best fedora or ubuntu  (bad things and good things exept the repo of fedora that is a pain in the ass sometime )
[00:24] <Ramesses> *archive
[00:24] <militant> cli but i suspect there's a gui frontend for it
[00:24] <noodlesgc> L3dPlatedLinux to back up your sources list. just make a copy of /etc/apt/sources.list . There are some extra repo's have you seen Medibuntu?
[00:24] <jeremy_> i need help i nstalled xubuntu and my other harddrive with ntfs would show up know i updated xubuntu and that drive dont show in my media folder?
[00:25] <Ramesses> noone here succesfully opened a "svgz" file before? :|
[00:25] <gordonjcp> Ramesses: what is it?
[00:26] <calmor15014> jeremy_ - I don't know that repeating it over and over and over and over again is going to help much... but you say it used to mount to /media/disk (or similar) and now it's not there?
[00:26] <jeremy_> yea
[00:26] <musikgoat|main> jeremy_ is it an active drive, as in you dual boot?
[00:26] <gordonjcp> !repeat | jeremy_
[00:26] <jeremy_> no
[00:26] <musikgoat|main> jeremy_: check dmesg for a problem mounting
[00:27] <Ramesses> gordonjcp, i said it before: "what do you, guys, use to view "svgz" files? i'm trying to open one [from http://futurist.se/gldt/ ] with both gthumb and "eye of gnome" but to no avail" & " i opened the "svgz" file with file archiver and it does list one file in the "archive" but it can't extract it"
[00:27] <psychic> grep VGA
[00:27] <reduz> Question! I have a ViewSonic LCD monitor, but it's connected through a KVM switch, so ubuntu can't get the modelines. I want to force the resolution though to the one i know is native, how do i do this?
[00:27] <psychic> is the driver
[00:27] <psychic> sorry
[00:27] <psychic> vid trouble
[00:27] <gordonjcp> Ramesses: a quick google suggests that it's a gzipped svg
[00:27] <musikgoat|main> jeremy_: pastebin your /etc/fstab and dmesg if you don't see anything obvious
[00:28] <Ramesses> gordonjcp, care to READ what i said?
[00:28] <noodlesgc> Ramesses try opening it in firefox
[00:28]  * Shinu hates it when he accidently reboots the wrong vps
[00:28] <gordonjcp> Ramesses: care to ditch the attitude?
[00:28] <Ramesses> gordonjcp, just for you i'll repeat the third time: `i opened the "svgz" file with file archiver and it does list one file in the "archive" but it can't extract it`
[00:29] <psychic> my only option on vid settings are  640 by 480 and default
[00:29] <psychic> both make a black box around the screen
[00:29] <psychic> and doesn't use the full display
[00:29] <gordonjcp> Ramesses: well, maybe you're doing it wrong
[00:29] <calmor15014> psychic: vga is the generic driver - you'll need to install a different driver that works with whatever chipset you have in the machine (ATI, NVidia, Intel, Matrox, etc)
[00:30] <Flannel> Ramesses: Have you tried inkscape?
[00:30] <calmor15014> (or choose one if Ubuntu has one available for your device - I'm not sure)
[00:30] <psychic> u know where i can get it
[00:30] <Ramesses> gordonjcp, wrong how? o opened it with the archiver [the fourth time i repeat it! ]; how can this be wrong?
[00:30] <gordonjcp> Ramesses: an archiver probably isn't much good for viewing an svg file
[00:30] <Flannel> Ramesses: Also, it seems Firefox can open them.
[00:30] <gordonjcp> Ramesses: come to that, neither is a bitmap viewer like EOG or gthumb
[00:31] <Ramesses> noodlesgc, i tried firefox too but :| it doesn't open it; it only offers me to save the file or use the viewer to vie it
[00:31] <dr_willis> SVG = scalled Vector Graphocs
[00:31] <calmor15014> psychic: What model is your laptop>
[00:31] <dr_willis> use a SVG editor.. or viewer
[00:31] <psychic> where could i find a driver that is not generic for xubuntu
[00:31] <hmw> how can I search a man page for a string containing white space? (one single space in this instance)
[00:31] <crdlb> psychic: run 'lspci | grep -i vga'
[00:32] <musikgoat|main> hmw: maybe /
[00:32] <mashman> i got problem when im installing ubuntu it said there's no root file system to define
[00:32] <Ramesses> gordonjcp, sorry mate but you must learn to read: i tried to OPEN that file in the archiver [if it's supposed to be an archive] and *it does list one file in the "archive" but it can't extract it*
[00:32] <gordonjcp> hmw: use a backslash to escape the space, or use a . to match *any* character including space
[00:32] <musikgoat|main> sorry, /\
[00:32] <dr_willis> hwm using more as the viewer i think youse  /'whaterv spaces'
[00:32] <musikgoat|main> with a space after
[00:32] <gordonjcp> Ramesses: you're not listening
[00:32] <noodlesgc> Ramesses Is it possible for me to get a copy of this file? I have had no trouble opening svgz files in EyeOfGnome, or Firefox
[00:32] <hmw> gordonjcp: thanks! musikgoat|main: no, it interprets it as some sort of command
[00:32] <Ramesses> noodlesgc, it's from http://futurist.se/gldt/
[00:32] <Ramesses> noodlesgc, http://futurist.se/gldt/gldt93.tar.bz2
[00:32] <Stephan> How do I activate my wireless driver on boot?  Right now I have to de-activate it and re-activate it because it says:  "The driver is currently activated but not in use"  and I cannot connect to the internet until I re-activate it.
[00:32] <mashman> i got problem when im installing ubuntu it said there's no root file system to define how can you help me ?
[00:33] <gordonjcp> hmw: I just type spaces as . when I'm typing a search string
[00:33] <Ramesses> gordonjcp, sorry; i won't answear to you any longer
[00:33] <Flannel> mashman: Make sure you have defined a / partition, and are formatting it.
[00:33] <gordonjcp> !attitude | Ramesses
[00:33] <mashman> uuhmmm ic
[00:33] <mashman> ok try that later
[00:33] <hmw> gordonjcp musikgoat|main : typing "/create\ mask" did the trick. thank you!
[00:33] <gordonjcp> Ramesses: of course in this case the answer *is* available, and I've already pointed you in the right direction
[00:33] <crdlb> hmw: searching for a string with spaces works fine here
[00:33] <gordonjcp> Ramesses: a couple of people have actually *told* you what to do
[00:34] <hmw> crdlb: then it might be the string /create which is interpreted as a command in man?
[00:34] <jlilly> How can I unbind alt+1 to be switch to first tab?
[00:34] <jlilly> in gnome terminal, that is.
[00:34] <noodlesgc> Ramesses the file open fine in EyeOfGnome for me. Perhaps yours is corrupt?
[00:34] <mashman> Flannel do i still need the livecd to install ubuntu perhaps i have already a copy on my hard disk ?
[00:34] <crdlb> hmw: no, that works too (though there are no matches in the manpage I'm looking at)
[00:35] <gordonjcp> noodlesgc: oh, EOG does SVG now?
[00:35] <Flannel> mashman: You do still need the live CD.  Install it just like you were ebfore.
[00:35] <noodlesgc> gordonjcp yeah
[00:35] <mashman> uhmmm ic that's i got a problem thanks anyway
[00:35] <Ramesses> noodlesgc, if i try to open it in EOG it only shows a little portion of the image and i can't view the entire image even if i try to adjust the magnification
[00:35] <gordonjcp> noodlesgc: cool, didn't know that, but then I haven't used EOG for a long time
[00:35] <Flannel> Ramesses: also, (and yes, this is off topic), file a bug report with that guy regarding the fact that Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu aren't separate distros.
[00:36] <mashman> because when i put first the livecd and ask me to reboot and i have 2 boot one is xp and 2 is ubuntu and when i choose ubuntu and trying to install the problem is always occured but im not insert the cd that's why
[00:36] <psychic> any one have a moment to remote assist me in a display problem
[00:36] <Ramesses> Flannel, so this could be a bug in EOG? [that's what you sugest?]
[00:37] <psychic> its not a big problem
[00:37] <psychic> just dont know how to do it myself
[00:37] <elaterite> Shopping for a new mobo. I see there has been a lot of problems with P45 chipsets. Anyone know if that is resolved in 8.04 or 8.10?
[00:37] <Flannel> Ramesses: erm... no, I wasn't referencing EOG at all.  The image itself is inaccurate.  I have no idea re: EoG, but it opens fine in inkscape here.
[00:37] <crdlb> psychic: we don't do that
[00:37] <psychic> no one?
[00:37] <Ramesses> Flannel, thanks; thank you very much, i'll try inkspace then :)
[00:37] <gordonjcp> Ramesses: opens just fine in Inkscape for me too
[00:38] <psychic> ok
[00:38] <noodlesgc> Ramesses yes it appears that EOG renders improperly. Inkscape works
[00:38] <crdlb> psychic: you need to determine what video card you have
[00:38] <gordonjcp> !ask | psychic
[00:38] <Ramesses> noodlesgc, thanks; so, Flannel, i think i could file a bug report on EOG :D
[00:38] <psychic> ok no problem
[00:38] <Kattollikisd> Anyone in here have a Zune that can help me out? I want to make a transfer with the application called Qlix.
[00:39] <calmor15014> psychic: read up a bit - ﻿crdlb: psychic: run 'lspci | grep -i vga'
[00:39] <crdlb> psychic: if you open a terminal and run 'lspci | grep -i vga' (no quotes) it will tell you
[00:39] <UnderTaker> Are updates issued every day?
[00:40] <xiqtesttest> hello, is anyone there
[00:40] <rww> UnderTaker: no
[00:40] <gordonjcp> xiqtesttest: no, no-one at all
[00:40] <sprinkmeier> UnderTaker, there is no schedule (like "black tuesday"). updates/patches are published when ready.
[00:40] <musikgoat|main> !hello | xiqtesttest
[00:40] <UnderTaker> ok
[00:41] <xiqtesttest> hi, could someone help me with computer? sorry its not 100% about ubuntu
[00:42] <musikgoat|main> ask the question and people can direct you
[00:42] <xiqtesttest> well i use my cellphone atm for chat because my computer is broken wait a sec i explain
[00:44] <xiqtesttest> it was liying on the floor (computer) and after a while it made noises like if a human needs breath u know, then he wouldnt turn on
[00:44] <xiqtesttest> i started again and mouse and keyboard not work
[00:44] <Aar0n> does anyone have a sudo apt-get for installing flash?
[00:45] <sprinkmeier> xiqtesttest, ventilation inlet blocked? sounds like you cooked it...
[00:45] <xiqtesttest> =(
[00:45] <rww> Aar0n: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:45] <snarg> hi
[00:45] <Xunie> Ok ubuntu, wtf
[00:45] <musikgoat|main> also if on carpet, you could have built up a static discharge to the connection xiqtesttest
[00:45] <xiqtesttest> damn i cant buy new comp i have no money
[00:45] <Stephan> How do I activate my wireless driver on boot?  Right now I have to de-activate it and re-activate it because it says:  "The driver is currently activated but not in use"  and I cannot connect to the internet until I re-activate it.
[00:45] <timc> Hello! I want to find all folders that contain both .ape and .flac files, and then delete those .flac files. I'm not that good with find command, can someone help me? :D
[00:45] <Xunie> Dudes... why doesn't ircd-hybrid come with a standard config?
[00:46] <musikgoat|main> xiqtesttest: find someone who has parts to test the problem
[00:46] <Xunie> I thought ubuntu was 'user friendly' in a way?...
[00:46] <somebody_> hey guys how do you reconfigure x server?
[00:46] <xiqtesttest> it was hot AND on carpet
[00:46] <Xunie> thats what she said xiqtesttest
[00:46] <musikgoat|main> Xunie: ircd-hybrid is not ubuntu
[00:46] <Xunie> no, But its in the ubuntu repo
[00:46] <sprinkmeier> timc, you mean delete .flac files that have been converted to .ape?
[00:46] <xiqtesttest> but what parts
[00:46] <musikgoat|main> Xunie: so is X, and thats not user friendly
[00:47] <rww> Xunie: ircd-hybrid is a universe package, which means it was pulled from Debian
[00:47] <sprinkmeier> somebody_, easiest: boot into recovery mode and pick it off the menu
[00:47] <Xunie> rww, Well, On my debian box there clearly comes a standard conf...
[00:47] <_Whipper> Stephan: do a brand new live-cd/dvd?
[00:47] <musikgoat|main> xiqtesttest: the motherboard, likely,  or test your keyboard nad mouse on another computer
[00:47] <noodlesgc> xiqtesttest probably best to take it to a computer fix-it shop
[00:47] <timc> sprinkmeier, i was converting a large batch of ape to flac and something went wrong somewhere. some flacs are there and some are not
[00:47] <musikgoat|main> xiqtesttest: its either one of the two
[00:48] <timc> sprinkmeier, i want to delete the mess, try again
[00:48] <xiqtesttest> but have no money cant even pay bill
[00:48] <Stephan> _Whipper: that doesn't seem very helpful ... id rather know how the OS works than to be a jackass and lose everything I just setup for the last week
[00:48] <musikgoat|main> xiqtesttest: is it possible that you can get the keyboard to respond to the bios?
[00:48] <Xunie> rww, I mean on my debian box there clearly comes a standard conf with the package
[00:48] <sprinkmeier> timc, so you just want to delete all .flac files in a directory tree?
[00:48] <xiqtesttest> no
[00:48] <xiqtesttest> wait i explain
[00:49] <_Whipper> Stephan: you used a week to set ubuntu up? and no back-ups?
[00:49] <timc> sprinkmeier, no, i want to delete all .flac files that are in a folder with a .ape folder
[00:49] <sprinkmeier> xiqtesttest, can you drag it to a LUG for the geeks there to look at?
[00:49] <hmw> xiqtesttest: let your computer cool down for 5 minutes, then use a big book or a wooden board below the computer. on one of my notebooks, i use to put pencils below it, because it gets so hot.
[00:49] <timc> sprinkmeier, i can use find to delete .flac files in a tree, but i don't know how to add that extra condition
[00:49] <hmw> xiqtesttest: if you didnt overheat your computer for too often, it will probably work again, when it cooled down
[00:50] <_Whipper> Stephan: thats the way i do things.. try & error.. :)
[00:50] <timc> sprinkmeier, something like find  /path/ -iname '*.flac' -exec rm {} \;
[00:50] <timc> should work
[00:50] <xiqtesttest> they work with my xbox but i think usb of motherboard is broken... BUT i connected a hub dont work
[00:50] <bin1010> what does it mean when apt-get says Package blah is not available, but is referred to by another package?  How do I find this other package?
[00:50] <sprinkmeier> timc, OK, so one way would be to find all .ape folders, then delete all .flac files from thir parent directorieas?
[00:50] <Stephan> _Whipper: no, it didnt take a week straight lol... total time
[00:50] <xiqtesttest> well it happened hours ago i used cooliing then
[00:51] <sprinkmeier> timc, use "rm --interactive" in tests, just in case :-)
[00:51] <xiqtesttest> sry whats a LUG?
[00:51] <crdlb> bin1010: that it's either been removed or renamed or something like that
[00:51] <musikgoat|main> !lug
[00:51] <_Whipper> Stephan: i just almost went out of words :)
[00:51] <sprinkmeier> xiqtesttest, linux user group.
[00:51] <timc> sprinkmeier, thanks for the tip. how do i find all ape folders?
[00:52] <bin1010> I am looking for python-sqlite3...
[00:52] <xiqtesttest> they have irc? i can only use irc with my cellphone sry =(
[00:52] <_Whipper> Stephan:  so why dont you make a .iso from the set thats working for u now?
[00:52] <musikgoat|main> !info python-sqlite3
[00:52] <sprinkmeier> timc, find /path/ -type d -name .ape
[00:53] <Kira> Good day.
[00:53] <musikgoat|main> bin1010: it means that the name is referenced by a different package
[00:53] <_Whipper> Kira: good morning :)
[00:53] <bin1010> ubottu doh
[00:53] <sprinkmeier> timc, physicall show up, bring the PC and hopefully someone will take a look at it for you.
[00:54] <timc> crossed wires sprinkmeier ;)
[00:54] <musikgoat|main> bin1010: what are you trying to install?
[00:54] <Kira> In the Unix/Linux world, how do you call a user account that does not correspond to a real human user (i.e. a user account that exists strictly to limit the access rights of a daemon)
[00:54] <bin1010> flyback
[00:54] <psychic> thanks for the assistance i got it now
[00:54] <kaski> Could someone help me with a lengthy issue in private?
[00:54] <bin1010> flyback and it uses python-sqlite3
[00:55] <bin1010> or so it thinks.. :)
[00:55] <sprinkmeier> timc, find . -type d -printf -name .ape "rm %p/../*.flac\n"
[00:55] <Ndshacker> !scripts
[00:55] <crdlb> bin1010: and how are you attempting to install it?
[00:55] <Ndshacker> !script
[00:55] <sprinkmeier> timc, then cut-and-paste into a terinal
[00:55] <_Whipper> kaski: didnt you listen before????
[00:55] <Ndshacker> :|
[00:55] <bin1010> svn source
[00:56] <kaski> Listen before?
[00:56] <kaski> What?
[00:56] <dr_willis> me feels the love
[00:56] <kaski> I've never been here before..
[00:56] <sprinkmeier> timc oops..... find . -type d -name .ape -printf "rm %p/../*.flac\n"
[00:56] <_Whipper> kaski: ok
[00:56] <timc> sprinkmeier, what will this do??
[00:57] <kaski> Whipper could you help me?
[00:57] <_Whipper> kaski: then someone is using your nick, wihich i doubt very mych...
[00:57] <crdlb> bin1010: apparently it's included with python
[00:57] <MrDusty> hey guys what package do i need under ubuntu to be able to compile .c programs ?
[00:57] <sprinkmeier> timc, print out a set of "rm" commands that you can copy-and-paste into a terminal to remove the flac files.
[00:57] <bin1010> coolio...thanks crdlb.
[00:57] <kaski> Erm, maybe we just had the same one?
[00:57] <crdlb> MrDusty: build-essential
[00:57] <kaski> My friend told me to come here for Ubuntu help and this is my first time using linux
[00:58] <Stephan> crdlb: how do i automatically "use" a driver ?
[00:58] <timc> sprinkmeier, is that going to search all drives? can i limit the scope?
[00:58] <_Whipper> kaski: so whats the magic question?
[00:58] <jedi06> how would you concat two files?
[00:58] <jedi06> into a third file
[00:58] <crdlb> Stephan: uh, what kind of driver?
[00:58] <xiqtesttest> this useRgroups thing is confusing
[00:58] <kaski> When I boot into Ubuntu, the loading screen progresses and then I get a wall of text in like a console type thing
[00:58] <Stephan> cat file1 | cat file2 > 3rdfile
[00:59] <kaski> Then this command prompt called BusyBox comes
[00:59] <Stephan> crdlb: its a wireless driver.
[00:59] <kaski> In order to continue to boot, I have to type exit
[00:59] <KoolD> what was the name of the app that gives u all the information about your system and is attached to the background?
[00:59] <kaski> This makes more text appear and the computer boots
[00:59] <sprinkmeier> timc, yes, use a proper path instead of "." as first parameter to find
[00:59] <kaski> Is this normal?
[00:59] <Stephan> crdlb: when i start my system, i need to goto system, admin, hardware drivers.   itll show the driver 'activated but not in use'
[00:59] <crdlb> Stephan: you have no ethernet access?
[01:00] <crdlb> Stephan: what's the name of the driver you see in hardware drivers?
[01:00] <Stephan> crdlb: nope, wireless works fine ... i just have to enable it manually
[01:00] <_Whipper> kaski: hmmm occasinally happened to me too.. with some distros, not with ub thou
[01:00] <sprinkmeier> kaski, no. which version of ubuntu? any mods?
[01:00] <Stephan> crdlb: it's broadcom sta wireless driver
[01:00] <kaski> I have the latest version
[01:00] <kaski> I believe 8.10
[01:00] <kaski> And no, no mods.
[01:01] <crdlb> Stephan: so by 'enable it manually', you mean modprobe?
[01:01] <sprinkmeier> kaski, are you picking the top-most option from GRUB?
[01:01] <Stephan> crdlb: no, i click deactivate, then activate  and it works .. i guess it's doing modprobe in the background?
[01:01] <kaski> GRUB?
[01:01] <Ndshacker> how can I make scripts?
[01:01] <calmor15014> Anyone know where to look in the logs to figure out why a machine sporadically reboot?  (If it was in fact software and not hardware)
[01:01] <_Whipper> Ndshacker: old..
[01:02] <kaski> Ah you mean the one where it says stuff like Ubuntu 8.10 generic x86?
[01:02] <slayton> does anybody know of software that you can use to backup and restore profile files?
[01:02] <jlilly> How can I unbind alt+1 to be switch to first tab in the terminal?
[01:02] <sprinkmeier> Ndshacker, scripts are just executasblet text files. crate a file and "chmod +x" it
[01:02] <pac1> I'm looking for a way to correlate the items in /dev/disk/by-id and the items in /dev/disk/by-uuid.
[01:02] <crdlb> Stephan: hmm, it sounds like some alternate driver (ie kernel module) is loading, which is breaking the one in hardware drivers, but that's just a guess
[01:02] <_Whipper> slayton: APTon
[01:03] <crdlb> jlilly: hardy or intrepid?
[01:03] <xiqtesttest> sprinkmeier: oh about my pc: the usb makes light but no response
[01:03] <hmw> calmor15014 - it is very unlikely, that software causes such a crash, unless oyu are using strange kernel versions or other developement/instable stuff. there is not general rule, what to look for in the logs; you can only look, what did run before the crash and try to figure out, if you can recreate the error
[01:03] <Stephan> crdlb: so how would i fix this?
[01:03] <Ndshacker> so they are just a list of commands?
[01:03] <Ndshacker> and whipper >.< i have a way of learning stuff
[01:03] <Stephan> crdlb: its the hardware manager .. its not any added package.  its what came with ubuntu
[01:03] <Kattollikisd> Anyone in here have a Zune that can help me out? I want to make a transfer with the application called Qlix.
[01:03] <Ndshacker> dont insult me for working from the ground up
[01:03] <jlilly> crdlb: intrepid
[01:04] <timc> sprinkmeier, i'm searching paths i know have both .ape and .flac, and nothing is printing
[01:04] <sprinkmeier> xiqtesttest, some PC's suply power to USB ports staight form the PSU, so 'intelligence' required. that might explain power but no signal
[01:04] <crdlb> Stephan: yeah, but it's probably part of linux-restricted-modules, whereas some open source driver is used by default (that apparently doesn't work)
[01:04] <_Whipper> Ndshacker: didnt mean no harm.. sorry if i hurt your feelings.. :)
[01:04] <sprinkmeier> timc, pastebin it?
[01:04] <calmor15014> hmw: thanks - I have a Mythbuntu box that rebooted last night for no apparent reason (I walked past).  It also did it once when I plugged my PSP into the front panel...
[01:04] <Stephan> crdlb: how do i change the default drivers then?
[01:04] <slayton> _Whipper, not quite what I'm looking for
[01:04] <crdlb> jlilly: in edit > keyboard shortcuts, you can disable each alt+N binding, at least in certain versions
[01:04] <Bsims{fs}> how can I use a ; in a say alias? on irssi, I tried /; and no joy
[01:04] <slayton> I'm looking for something that backs up folders like .gnome .mozilla etc
[01:04] <musikgoat|main> slayton: profile files? as in firefox profiles?
[01:05] <slayton> musikgoat|main, yes
[01:05] <crdlb> jlilly: I have it in jaunty, but it may be missing in intrepid, in which case you can use gconf-editor
[01:05] <musikgoat|main> slayton: tar
[01:05] <timc> sprinkmeier, i don't understand
[01:05] <randal> does any one know of a good program to turn mp4 to mp3
[01:05] <sprinkmeier> Bsims{fs}, try \;
[01:05] <kaski> sprinkmeier, Ah you mean the one where it says stuff like Ubuntu 8.10 generic
[01:05] <sprinkmeier> !pastebin | timc
[01:05] <jlilly> crdlb: I see how to change it, but not how to undefine it.
[01:05] <xiqtesttest> sprinkmeier: does this mean its usb is destroyed or like you said just need cooldown?
[01:05] <slayton> musikgoat|main, I know about tar, but I'm thinking about writing a PyGTK app that stores everything in an SVN repo but I just wanted to check to see if anything exists yet
[01:05] <crdlb> Stephan: what's the exact chipset? you can look at lspci to check
[01:06] <crdlb> jlilly: backspace
[01:06] <jedi06> Stephan that didn't work cat 1 | cat 2 | cat 3 > houses
[01:06] <sprinkmeier> kaski, yes.
[01:06] <hmw> calmor15014: it is possible, that certain driver/hardware combinations can do this. Try to find a pattern/reproduce the failure. if you find a way to cause the reboot with a certain procedure, it will probably be software. if it happens with just anything, or you cant reproduce, it is likely to be a hardware problem. you could try the memory check (live cd at boot prompt offers such an option)
[01:06] <slayton> I'm looking for an app that can be automated and will allow me to automagically sync any new computer to my profile
[01:06] <kaski> sprinkmeier, in that case im pretty sure i choose the first option
[01:06] <Stephan> crdlb: 3:08.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43XG (rev 01)
[01:06] <sprinkmeier> xiqtesttest, impossible to tell from here.
[01:06] <musikgoat|main> slayton: mozilla weave in the labs
[01:06] <jlilly> crdlb: awesome. thanks for the help
[01:06] <Stephan> jedi06: is 1 2 and 3 files?
[01:06] <randal>      does any one know of a good program to turn mp4 to mp3
[01:06] <xiqtesttest> oh...
[01:06] <jedi06> Stephan it looks like it just put the last file into houses
[01:06] <musikgoat|main> slayton: at least for firefox
[01:06] <jedi06> Stephan yes
[01:07] <slayton> musikgoat|main, but nothing for an entire profile?
[01:07] <tyvek> jedi06: cat file1 file2 file3 > file4
[01:07] <Stephan> hold :)
[01:07] <Stephan> ^ that works lol
[01:07] <musikgoat|main> slayton: weave backs up a profile to a server, securely
[01:07] <slayton> musikgoat|main, but only for FF
[01:07] <slayton> ?
[01:07] <calmor15014> hmw: Thanks.  I just swapped mainboard/CPU in this machine and there are some weird things going on that I can't quite put my finger on...
[01:07] <_Whipper> randal: not straight..
[01:07] <musikgoat|main> yes, aparently
[01:07] <Bsims{fs}> Nope still ignores it
[01:08] <sprinkmeier> kaski, not sure what's going on then. i'd need to see the box, i'm not familiar enough with the problem to remote diagnose...
[01:08] <crdlb> Stephan: ok, here's what I'd do: run lsmod > working_modules; then reboot and run lsmod > broken_modules
[01:08] <crdlb> Stephan: then you can diff working_modules broken_modules
[01:08] <kaski> sprinkmeier, http://www.busybox.net/screenshot.html
[01:08] <kaski> thats pretty much what i get
[01:08] <musikgoat|main> slayton: i'm not sure about anything else though... there was an app on windows, don't know if its on linux, called mozbackup
[01:09] <Stephan> crdlb: ok.  and once i find the difference in the files,  then where do i modify the loading files?
[01:09] <tj83_> hi all.... i need some guidance in setting my ubuntu server to start a program at bootup in whatever userspace runlevel is appropriate
[01:09] <crdlb> Stephan: you can blacklist any broadcom driver you see in broken but not in working
[01:09] <calmor15014> hmw: For instance, sometimes it takes forever to boot (sticks at a certain point in the splash screen)... sometimes it boots right up.  The PSP caused it to reboot once but not since then.
[01:09] <timc> sprinkmeier, the command isn't printing anything at all. i'm using        find "long/path/with spaces/" -type d -name .ape -printf "rm %p/../*.flac\n"
[01:10] <sprinkmeier> kaski, sounds like grub is dumping into busybox. sorry,  out of ideas
[01:10] <xiqtesttest> xD
[01:10] <hmw> calmor15014: can you tell me, at what stage it hangs?
[01:10] <kaski> sprinkmeier okay thanks anyway
[01:10] <timc> sprinkmeier, but i know there are .flac files alongside .ape files in those folders.
[01:10] <Stephan> ah i think i see why crdlb  :)
[01:10] <musikgoat|main> timc: find "long/path/with\ spaces/" -type d -name *.ape...  not sure about the rest
[01:10] <_Whipper> Stephan: and i remotely remember theres a workarounds for your case..
[01:10] <Stephan> whipper
[01:10] <Stephan> i think its my fault actually :)
[01:11] <sprinkmeier> timc, try removing the filtering terms (-type d -name .ape) works here, i set up a test tree....
[01:11] <Stephan> blacklist-bcm43  has blacklist bcm43xx
[01:11] <Stephan> and my driver is bcm43XX
[01:11] <Stephan> brb  rebooting to test it
[01:11] <_Whipper> :)
[01:11] <calmor15014> hmw: it's always in the splash screen so I don't know exactly what it's waiting on... progress bar is about 30-40% across but that's of no help at all, and I didn't see anything that stood out in the log but I don't really know what to be looking for
[01:12] <timc> sprinkmeier, yah, that prints
[01:12] <hmw> calmor15014: change the boot parameters in your grub (either in the menu.lst or interactively at the boot prompt) - remove splash and quiet options
[01:12] <FrozenFire> Is there a way to easily do a diff on two directories, not to compare the contents of the files, but to ensure that the file structure is identical in both directories?
[01:12] <sprinkmeier> musikgoat|main, timc "-name \*.ape" lest command-line lobbing mess it up
[01:13] <jedi06> anyone know in open office in the spread sheet how do you delete any duplicate row entries?
[01:13] <xiqtesttest> test
[01:13] <_Whipper> xiqtesttest: works
[01:13] <timc> sprinkmeier, the files don't have duplicate names
[01:13] <xiqtesttest> oh im not banned good
[01:14] <xiqtesttest> no my pc dont work
[01:14] <xiqtesttest> oh wait
[01:14] <_Whipper> xiqtesttest: should you?
[01:14] <xiqtesttest> wait let explain
[01:14] <mib_nb8yyt> Hi ALL
[01:14] <calmor15014> hmw: yeah, been meaning to try that, but just now got the time to discuss.  it's not this machine so I'll try it now and see what it comes up with.
[01:14] <timc> sprinkmeier, ahhhh that might have done it
[01:14] <xiqtesttest> everytime i see ban its red color
[01:15] <hmw> calmor15014: you can examine the initial text, that is hidden by ubuntu with dmesg and look for errors or such
[01:15] <xiqtesttest> then i think its me xD
[01:15] <_Whipper> dmn.. 35'c in my studio.. and no aircondition..
[01:16] <xiqtesttest> whipper
[01:16] <_Whipper> xiqtesttest: tell
[01:16] <Deevz> I starting to like this linux thingy
[01:16] <xiqtesttest> iF usb not work but computer does
[01:16] <calmor15014> hmw: I did scan dmesg but can't seem to find anything that really stands out....
[01:16] <Deevz> Way more customizable than windows
[01:17] <xiqtesttest> and i tried with 3different ports
[01:17] <hmw> calmor15014: it might be just a dhcp not answering.
[01:17] <hmw> calmor15014: you will hopefully find out, what is going on
[01:17] <xiqtesttest> than why every1 say computer is logical
[01:17] <calmor15014> hmw: is it normal for there to be no entry between 15.442290 and 256.998500 in dmesg?
[01:17] <_Whipper> xiqtesttest: 'cos thats the way it is
[01:17] <timc> sprinkmeier, i can't use the printout because of spaces in the path name
[01:18] <hmw> xiqtesttest: because computers do EXACTLY, what you tell them to do, which is rarely what you want them to do LOL
[01:18] <hmw> calmor15014: no
[01:18] <Laurenceb> hello
[01:18] <xiqtesttest> i had to repair my pc thousand times and
[01:18] <Winol> Hey guys ! got a problem qwith my external Hard Drive .. ubuntu doesn't recognize it : lsusb = Negative and nothing in /etc/fstab
[01:18] <hmw> calmor15014: what is the entry before that pause?
[01:18] <Laurenceb> I need libsamplerate
[01:18] <Laurenceb> can anyone help?
[01:18] <xiqtesttest> the problem solve was allways unlogical
[01:18] <calmor15014> hmw: I didn't think so.  @ 15.442290 - sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[01:18] <chuck_> hi wuu2
[01:19] <calmor15014> hmw: then, @ 256.998500 - EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
[01:19] <hmw> calmor15014: this might indicate problems with a drive
[01:19] <_Whipper> xiqtesttest: let me put you on the path. Humans make mistakes, comps dont? gotit?-)
[01:19] <hmw> calmor15014: you should run an fsck on that file system
[01:19] <Laurenceb> I need libsamplerate
[01:19] <Laurenceb> can anyone help?
[01:19] <xiqtesttest> ya ;D i just think its funny
[01:20] <scunizi> besides that's been out for a while.. old news
[01:20] <calmor15014> huh.  It looks like my printer?
[01:20] <prince_jammys> Laurenceb: i don't see a `libsamplerate', but there's a `libsamplerate0'. To install it: sudo apt-get install libsamplerate0
[01:20] <xiqtesttest> nooo
[01:20] <_Whipper> xiqtesttest> the problem solve was allways unlogical:: that is Unlogical statement :)
[01:20] <xiqtesttest> oh wasnt me
[01:21] <xiqtesttest> but you _Whipper  get it ;D
[01:21] <calmor15014> hmw: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/135157/
[01:21] <xiqtesttest> I
[01:21] <mib_gbc5na> hey i am trying to install ubuntu on several systems and was wondering is there a way to mass install it, ot just specify the conditions in a file, so i dont have to keep going through the gui installer, specifying the same info.
[01:22] <_Whipper> mib_gbc5na: yes
[01:22] <calmor15014> hmw: my printer has a card reader in it, but I never had the lag issue with the previous mainboard/CPU (same chipset, different manufacturer)
[01:22] <xiqtesttest> hmm i could cry its so bad
[01:23] <_Whipper> xiqtesttest: cry all the tears you've got.. :) ill back u up :)
[01:23] <hmw> calmor15014: is this drive an external usb drive?
[01:23] <mib_gbc5na> _Whipper: where can i find info on that
[01:23] <calmor15014> hmw: It's actually my printer (HP PSC-1610)
[01:24] <aviram_m> how I can to open chansever
[01:24] <calmor15014> hmw: it happens to have a card reader, but I thought it was only for the printer (print directly from camera kind of thing)
[01:24] <_Whipper> mib_gbc5na: try looking from the site?
[01:24] <xiqtesttest> can it be that something breaks but its a member of motherboard and the other things dont!!! sry hate writing w/ cellphone
[01:24] <fearful> can anyone upload their pidgin tray icons for me /usr/share/pixamp/pidgin
[01:24] <hmw> calmor15014: ic... it might be a driver issue (another kernel now?) and can also be the reason for the reboot
[01:24] <Winol> guys anyone knows how can I mount an External NTFS Hard drive in Ubuntu ?
[01:24] <fearful> pixmap*
[01:25] <mhall119> Winol: can you see the drive when it's plugged in?
[01:25] <fearful> !ntfs | winol
[01:25] <hmw> calmor15014: i am sorry, but i cant really help you any further here. check, if the problem persists, when the printer is not connected
[01:25] <Winol> mhall119,  nope :(
[01:25] <xiqtesttest> where can i upload picture ?
[01:25] <eseven3> whats' the diff between DVD-RW and DVD+RW if any?
[01:25] <_Whipper> xiqtesttest: uhmm.. doubt that..
[01:25] <calmor15014> hmw: thanks for walking me through it - you were quite helpful - at least now I have something to go on
[01:25] <fearful> www.tinypic.com xiqtesttest
[01:25] <Winol> nothing for my HD with lsusb
[01:25] <mhall119> Winol: then it's not a mounting problem, it's a device detection problem
[01:25] <Guest63602> is there any utility to extract the audio from a video file?
[01:26] <mhall119> nothing on lsusb?
[01:26] <Winol> mhall119, how can i fix that then ?. :(
[01:26] <Winol> nothing :(
[01:26] <calmor15014> hmw: oddly, it's the same machine/software/kernel, other than the mainboard and CPU.
[01:26] <mhall119> hmmm, I dunno, lsusb should show everything
[01:26] <fearful> Can someone please kindly upload their pidgin tray icons, (/usr/share/pixmap/pidgin) I'd really appreciate it
[01:26] <dr_willis> Guest63602:  ffmpeg, mencoder,  avidemux, winff, can all proberly do it.
[01:26] <mhall119> even if Linux doesn't know what to do with it
[01:26] <hmw> calmor15014: new hardware might "activate" different drivers, of course.
[01:27] <calmor15014> hmw: that is very true.   I'll experiment with the printer.  In the end I need it to work because among other things this is my print server too, but it looks like it's causing an issue
[01:28] <hmw> calmor15014: is there a card in the reader?
[01:28] <usser> Guest63602, ffmpeg -i videofile.avi -acodec libmp3lame -ac 2 -ab 128000 audistream.mp3
[01:28] <jackrasiel> Can anyone help with a webcam/skype issue?
[01:28] <_Whipper> *dmn*.. 4h and a wake-up..
[01:29] <calmor15014> hmw: just doublechecked  - nothing.  I don't know that I ever used it.  let me try putting a card in and see if it's mounted (or mountable)
[01:29] <upgrdman> is there any problem that shows previews of TTF fonts?
[01:29] <upgrdman> *program, not problem
[01:29] <hmw> calmor15014: i was thinking the other way around... no medium in the drive means less possibilities for failure...
[01:30] <_VIM_> upgrdman: can I pm you? (it has to do with your host, not your question) :)
[01:30] <upgrdman> _VIM_: yes, sure
[01:30] <aviram_m> #israel_music
[01:31] <Guest63602> usser: thanks
[01:31] <usser> Guest63602, no problem
[01:31] <calmor15014> hmw: I was thinking that too, but I wanted to see if it did pass through to the PC... and it does.
[01:31] <_Whipper> Q: how to transfer 150 photos to HD, fix'em up, and send it away, in 2hours, with Buntu ofcoors.. :)?
[01:32] <DoctorPringles> I've installed LAMP via tasksel but it keeps asking me to download a PHP file rather than interpreting it. I have libapache2-mod-php5 installed and enabled but no luck. I'm guessing this is a common problem
[01:32] <_VIM_> "Buntu ofcoors"? explain
[01:32] <mhall119> _Whipper: phatch, if "fix'em up" means doing the same thing every time
[01:32] <_Whipper> _VIM_: "mixed ubuntu"
[01:33] <mhall119> DoctorPringles: check /etc/apache2/mods-available and /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[01:33] <mhall119> if the php module and conf are in -available, but not -enabled, symlink them there
[01:33] <_Whipper> mhall119: nope.. dont work.. some are B7W..
[01:33] <_VIM_> whipper, ok, interesting grammar :)
[01:33] <_Whipper> B/W
[01:33] <mhall119> B7W?
[01:33] <mhall119> oh
[01:34] <mhall119> so....what do you mean by fix'em up?
[01:34] <_Whipper> :I i know, im an english-teacher..
[01:34] <mhall119> english majors tend to have interesting grammar
[01:34] <DoctorPringles> mhall119: They're in both so that's not causing the problem.
[01:35] <mhall119> DoctorPringles: have you restarted apache?
[01:35] <_Whipper> mhall119: never mind.. cant do it in time anyway..
[01:35] <DoctorPringles> mhall119, yes
[01:35] <mhall119> _Whipper: I'd offer imagemagick, but it'd take 2 hours to write the scripts
[01:35] <mhall119> DoctorPringles: I'm out of ideas then
[01:36] <_Whipper> mhall119: and i would thank you, but refuse it :)
[01:36] <DoctorPringles> mhall119, I've had this problem on 2 intrepid machines. Isn't anyone else encountering this?
[01:37] <_Whipper> i'm used to Gimp, and thats the way i go..
[01:38] <mhall119> DoctorPringles: nope, I've got it running on 2 intrepid machines
[01:38] <mhall119> not sure what's different
[01:38] <Xunie> Ok ubuntu, wtf,.. the init.d script for ircd-hybrid is broken....
[01:38] <Xunie> It doesn't start and I have to start the daemon manually
[01:38] <mhall119> _Whipper: can you make a script or macro in Gimp to do all the fixin?
[01:39] <mhall119> DoctorPringles: I'm assuming your php files end in .php
[01:39] <DoctorPringles> mhall119, Yes they do
[01:39] <kitche> Xunie: does the init.d script output anything when you try to use it manually?
[01:39] <mhall119> also, check your apache config, make sure it's loading what in mods-enabled
[01:39] <HammerHead66> hello everyone
[01:39] <_Whipper> mhall119: if i could do that, i would have a castle in southern france and a big wineyard.. no, i have to do it manually, 'cos i like them to look good :)
[01:39] <M4d3L> hi. any tool exist to read Microsoft Access file on ubuntu?
[01:39] <DoctorPringles> mhall119, no idea how to check that
[01:39] <Xunie> kitche, Not even a thing, It does output the usage when no parameters are given...
[01:40] <Xunie> Not "starting ircd-hybrid..." or something like that...
[01:40] <timc> Hello! I want to find all folders that contain both .ape and .flac files, and then delete those .flac files. I'm not that good with find command, can someone help me?
[01:40] <kitche> M4d3L: openoffice can open Access files just fine
[01:40] <mhall119> DoctorPringles: one of the .conf files in /etc/apache2
[01:40] <fearful> how can I remove completely trash/root trash/cache my space keeps on decreasing
[01:40] <Xunie> timc, read the man page, google for find too
[01:41] <Xunie> kitche, $START needs to be "yes" in order to start... But where does that variable come from?...
[01:42] <mhall119> timc: find ./ -name *.flac -print0 |xargs -0 rm
[01:42] <_Whipper> hmm.. my body needs some fuel.. see ya >
[01:42] <kitche> Xunie: check the init.d script should be in there some place I do not have a ubuntu machine infront of me to look
[01:42] <Xunie> kitche, When I do set the variable, It says I don't need to run the ircd as root (which is ofcourse more sanitary)..., So where does that $START var come from?...
[01:42] <mhall119> bbl, steak is ready
[01:42] <M4d3L> kitche: openoffice dont want to open my file
[01:43] <timc> Hello! here is a better question :D
[01:43] <timc> how can i get the -printf in this command to print with quotes around the path?    find "/path/with spaces/" -name \*.ape -printf "rm %p/../*.flac\n"
[01:44] <kitche> timc: add another quotes probably?
[01:44] <timc> kitche, doesn't work
[01:45] <hmw> timc: just a guess, try escaping the " with a \ before it
[01:45] <daftykins> timc back slash
[01:45] <daftykins> find /path/with\ spaces/
[01:46] <COkeNCode> scunizi, thanks, got it to work. Had to take the battery out of hte blackberry. Those darn things don't turn off.
[01:46] <DoctorPringles> That doesn't work. Anyone else have an idea now that mhall119 is gone?
[01:47] <daftykins> PHP not working on a server install DoctorPringles  ?
[01:47] <fearful> I was wondering why ubuntu says I got 70 gb free but 64 avaliable, any ideas?
[01:48] <daftykins> fearful: is this on "df -h" output ?
[01:48] <militant> fearful  perhaps quotas and reserves?  perhaps it's 70gb but when it's formatted out, only 64 is usable?
[01:48] <DoctorPringles> Doesn't seem to be working in Apache. No idea if PHP itself works as the command line part of PHP doesn't install as the tasksel install
[01:48] <wers> how do i exit nano? it says ^X. what is that? it's not shift+X right?
[01:48] <daftykins> ctrl+x
[01:48] <militant> control
[01:48] <mib_gbc5na> is 5gb a good size for a ubuntu hd?
[01:49] <fearful> daftykins, no, that only says 64 avaliable
[01:49] <daftykins> not really mib_gbc5na no
[01:49] <fearful> militant, I think that is true, but I keep deleting stuff and empty recycle bin and it wont free up space
[01:49] <daftykins> you could do an install to 5GB but you wouldn't be able to install much after
[01:49] <timc> hmw, what do you mean?
[01:49] <Deevz> where can I find a list of the purpose of each folders like /usr, /etc, /var?
[01:49] <daftykins> fearful can you paste 'df -h' output?
[01:49] <wers> thanks
[01:49] <eseven3> mib_gbc5na: that's kinda stretching it a bit, 10 would be best
[01:49] <onats> how do i force remounting of entries in fstab?
[01:49] <Deevz> It would help me greatly to know where I can expect to find some files
[01:50] <fearful> daftykins, one sec
[01:50] <daftykins> Deevz, google
[01:50] <unop> timc, -printf '"rm %p/../*.flac\n"'   # but I would suggest you reconsider this 'hackery' in favour of a trust-worthy solution.
[01:50] <mib_gbc5na> well it will only have a few files on it
[01:50] <SPF> Deevz: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Unix_directory_structure
[01:50] <eseven3> mib_gbc5na:  than yes, 5 gigs would be plenty I think
[01:50] <daftykins> you only need about 3GB for an install with nothing added after mib_gbc5na
[01:50] <Deevz> thx
[01:50] <mib_gbc5na> ok thanks
[01:51] <fearful> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/135162/
[01:51] <timc> unop, i want to find folders that have both .ape and .flac files in them, and delete the .flac files.
[01:51] <timc> this is the best idea i've had yet. (botched batch conversion :\ )
[01:51] <daftykins> hmm 53GB used fearful? that's a fair bit
[01:51] <Sivik> !nvidia
[01:52] <Sivik> Has anyone here gotten the nvidia drivers installed for 8.10?  I have them installed but no matter what setting i put, it never works
[01:52] <fearful> daftykins, yea I guess just when I empty trash I'm not receiving the same free space as before
[01:52] <daftykins> yes i run the 177 nvidia drivers on an 8800GT
[01:53] <Radar> Is there a way to open a link in the default browser from the command line?
[01:53] <Sivik> can I pm you daftykins?
[01:53] <daftykins> have you only recently installed fearful?
[01:53] <daftykins> sure Sivik
[01:53] <fearful> daftykins, na been using ubuntu for over 2 years, never encountered this problem
[01:53] <fearful> daftykins, this install may well have over 5 months
[01:53] <fearful> daftykins, since intrepid came out
[01:54] <daftykins> so what exactly is wrong?
[01:54] <mib_gbc5na> it appears that OEM install mode is what i am loking for to do a mass install
[01:54] <daftykins> what numbers are different?
[01:54] <mib_gbc5na> with the same settings
[01:54] <fearful> daftykins, I remove something that is lets say 5gb, and I don't get 5gb of free space back
[01:55] <fearful> daftykins, just awkward not really bothering me 64 gigs is more than enough, planning full clean upgrade with jaunty anyway so.. don't bust your head bout it :)
[01:55] <daftykins> hmm that's novel, how does the disk usage analyser compare to what should be true fearful ?
[01:55] <aviram_m> #israel_music
[01:56] <xiqtesttest> question
[01:56] <sprinkmeier> daftykins, removed how? could it have ended up in a trash bin or something?
[01:56] <unop> timc,  find . -name "*.ape" -printf '%h\0' | sort -uz | while read -d '' dir; do (cd $dir && echo rm -v *.flac); done
[01:57] <daftykins> wrong person sprinkmeier ? :P
[01:57] <sprinkmeier> daftykins, oops...
[01:57] <sprinkmeier> fearful,  removed how? could it have ended up in a trash bin or something?
[01:57] <chris420> hi folks.. im looking to make an exact replica of the filesystem on my hard drive...  how would you ecommend i do this?
[01:57] <xiqtesttest> what will be in a few years, after ubuntu znoozling zinkelator? i bet ubuntu 200$ xp ;D
[01:58] <sparky_> Ok, so I have a raid 5 setup on a 8.04.2 home server.  I added another drive to it and it is in the process of reshaping.  I have uped the speed_limit_min from 1000K/s to 10000K/s but I only see a raise in speed from 1500K/s to 3700K/s.  From what I have found thur google it should have increased alot more the just 1200k/s and I have tried other speeds too (lower and higher values).  The max is set at 200000K/s, any suggests on 
[01:58] <aviram_m> anybody
[01:58] <sprinkmeier> xiqtesttest, amazingly agile aardark
[01:58] <xiqtesttest> yay
[01:58] <_VIM_> chris420:  maybe clonezilla
[01:58] <aviram_m> you can help me
[01:59] <chris420> ahhh ok will my replica be bootable?
[02:00] <_VIM_> chris420: I'm sure there's a way of doing that, but im not sure clonezilla can do it or not
[02:00] <calmor15014> chris420: what do you want to do with the image you create?
[02:00] <xiqtesttest> i feel sorry for our grandcildren... "hey you allready have ubuntu alternate ankle avantgarde albert amber antilope?" aww...
[02:00] <chris420> well basically i wanna have my current operating system and settings on my new bigger hard drive so i can my mom hers back
[02:01] <xiqtesttest> *children
[02:01] <daftykins> lol xiqtesttest
[02:01] <calmor15014> chris420: I've successfully imaged a hard drive and then transferred the image to another using the dd command and an external hard drive.
[02:02] <xiqtesttest> well i go sleeps thank you pawning pony people
[02:02] <chris420> !cal:  thats wut id be doing
[02:02] <HammerHead66> lol
[02:02] <chris420> ubottu r u gay? lmao
[02:03] <_Enchained> hi all
[02:03] <calmor15014> chris420: in fact, I did put it on a bigger drive as well...
[02:03] <JUAN_> Hello
[02:03] <JUAN_> Any girl??
[02:03] <LjL> JUAN_: this is not a chat channel.
[02:03] <_Enchained> I'm using GNOME and would like to try KDE(4), but if possible, only install the KDE desktop and not entire Kubuntu...
[02:03] <Xunie> LjL, What is it then? :P
[02:04] <LjL> !#ubuntu
[02:04] <LjL> err, not that
[02:04] <JUAN_> Daki?
[02:04] <LjL> Xunie: this is the official Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu support questions and answers. nothing else than that
[02:04] <calmor15014> _Enchained - you can install Kubuntu-desktop from the repositories which will let you just use KDE
[02:05] <Xunie> LjL, ##linux 's been nicer to me... But since you say this is a support channel! :
[02:05] <_Enchained> calmor15014: it wiil remove ubuntnu-desktop I think...
[02:05] <Xunie> I can't get that init script working ircd-hybrid...
[02:05] <_Enchained> I want gnome AND kde
[02:05] <Jarred> hi
[02:05] <calmor15014> _Enchained: It won't.
[02:05] <_Enchained> ok :)
[02:05] <Xunie> It needs the variable $START to be yes for it to work, Why is that?...
[02:05] <LjL> _Enchained: just install the whole kubuntu-desktop package, seriously, it's less of a headache than hunting the right packages
[02:05] <calmor15014> _Enchained: After you install it, log out and when logging back in, choose the KDE session
[02:06] <Flannel> Xunie: Likely because you need to change some default stuff before it starts.
[02:06] <LjL> Xunie: probably because the developers wanted to make sure one only runs something like that if one really knows what they're doing. common trick in irc bots and servers
[02:06] <Flannel> Xunie: Check the README.Debian file
[02:06] <justinnfx> If I were to tripple boot LINUX/WINDOWXP/VISTA should I got vista fisrst than xp than UBUNTU?
[02:06] <_Enchained> calmor15014: kubuntu-desktop will install Kmail, etc (a lot of KDE apps). I would like juste the KDE desktop, but with my GNOME apps ...
[02:06] <_Enchained> possible ?
[02:06] <Xunie> Flannel, Maybe because it works by default on debian.. >_>
[02:06] <calmor15014> _Enchained: the only issue I've encountered on my machine is that the menus tend to get cluttered with software from both sides... I spent some time cleaning up my gnome menu...
[02:07] <rww> justinnfx: not sure about the Vista/XP order, but you should do Ubuntu last.
[02:07] <Flannel> Xunie: Er... that has no real relevance.
[02:07] <nightrid3r> justinnfx: sounds like the right order
[02:07] <calmor15014> _Enchained: lol that's what I was just mentioning about the install.  To be honest, I just installed them.  I'm not sure if there's an easy way to just install the DE and not the rest of the apps.
[02:07] <Xunie> Flannel, No, I was typing my actual relevant item... I edited the config, But its kind of annoying to ask around to be sure to remove those lines
[02:08] <calmor15014> _Enchained:  I'm kind of a Gnome fan, but KDE apps look and interact best with KDE, so trying KDE with Gnome apps might not be a fair assessment of it anyway.
[02:08] <_Enchained> will try just to install kdebase ...
[02:09] <_Enchained> Just want to look how it looks actually...
[02:09] <timc> unop, thank you very much! will this command remove the file instead of echo it's name to me? find /home/tim/test/ -name "*.ape" -printf '%h\0' | sort -uz | while read -d '' dir; do (cd $dir && rm -v *.flac); done
[02:10] <timc> i think that command is exactly what i need
[02:10] <calmor15014> _Enchained:  That might work, though oddly I don't have that meta-package installed (it must not be a dependency of kubuntu-desktop
[02:10] <Flannel> Xunie: There's a purpose to it.  We've explained it to you.  If you think its a bug, file a bug report.
[02:10] <aviram_m> boooooooooo
[02:10] <calmor15014> _Enchained: are you installing kdebase or kdebase-kde4?  (just out of sheer curiosity)
[02:10] <mefisto__> _Enchained: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome  that's the kde packages to REMOVE, so you could work backwards and install those, minus the ones you're sure you don't want
[02:11] <Xunie> Flannel, And get yelled at because of being a noob :P
[02:11] <ryanakca> I have an Atheros wireless card in my desktop, and on average, it pings 500ms... in the laptop next to it, I have a broadcom card, that on average, pings at 94ms. Is it the driver or the card that creates the difference in speed?
[02:11] <gorgut1> hey folks, i have a Broadcom BCM4306 using b43legacy module in Intrepid. Just today i started losing wireless intermittently and the only way to re-enable is to ifconfig up then down. Any ideas?
[02:12] <gorgut1> *make that down then up :p
[02:14] <sprinkmeier> ryanakca, i was searching for an answer to that myself (Similar problem). I found some stuff about buggy ACPI messing things up, and needing to disable it, but that didn't work for me.
[02:14] <eax> Hi :) I just installed Jaunty (love it! Apci works for me now :D ) But I managed to f*ck up my xp partition (human error) How do I add it to GRUB again? :)
[02:14] <ryanakca> sprinkmeier: Well, I don't need ACPI on a desktop, so might as well disable it in the bios... but still. This is on a cold boot...
[02:15] <_Enchained> calmor15014: I installed kdebase (jaunty so it's KDE4.2)
[02:16] <_Enchained> BRB to test ;)
[02:16] <unop> timc, it will yes - you can have rm prompt you to delete the file if you use the -i flag
[02:16] <trancazo> hello can someone tell me a good p2p program please
[02:16] <Dreamglider> eax, > !grub
[02:16] <Dreamglider> !grub
[02:16] <LjL> !p2p > trancazo    (trancazo, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:17] <eax> Dreamglider: I didn't loose it after installing windows, I deleted XP by accident but managed to save it ( I think) :S
[02:17] <calmor15014> _Enchained: I've heard good things about KDE but also some bad things about ubuntu's implementation of KDE... and my experience with KDE4 (Hardy x64) wasn't so good - graphics were terribly slow compared to Compiz in gnome
[02:17] <timc> Hello! Why does    find "/path/with spaces/" -name "*.ape" -printf '%h\0' | sort -uz | while read -d '' dir; do (cd $dir && rm -v *.flac); done   # yield 'No such file or directory'  ?
[02:17] <sprinkmeier> ryanakca, i though ACPI handles everything from soft-power to fan speeds, so disabling it (even on a desktop) might not be a good idea (unless you're desperate to get wifi :-)
[02:17] <timc> (there is such a directory!)
[02:18] <trancazo> LjL thanks man
[02:18] <Dreamglider> eax, if u follow that guide it will fix grub for you
[02:18] <ryanakca> sprinkmeier: Oh, nevermind then... I thought it was just for suspend / resume :)
[02:18] <Dreamglider> eax,  ahh your partition sty
[02:18] <unop> timc, what is the exact error message?
[02:18] <eax> Dreamglider: sty?
[02:18] <Dreamglider> eax, sRy*
[02:19] <unop> timc, ahh..  change   cd $dir   to  cd "$dir"
[02:19] <timc> unop, bash: cd: /home/tim/music/Classical/By: No such file or directory
[02:19] <Wolfpawz> Hi.
[02:19] <Dreamglider> eax, have a look at testdisk
[02:19] <eax> Dreamglider: ooh okay ;) Thanks :) I'm not even certain that I actually fixed it :S
[02:19] <eax> Dreamglider: I actually did it throug testdisk ;)
[02:19] <unop> timc, yea, i forgot to quote the variable .. quoting it should fix it.
[02:20] <Wolfpawz> I have a little problem. It seems Windows Vista does not like having an entry password for Grub on a dual boot setting; causes BSOD.
[02:20] <calmor15014> _Enchained: So let me know how KDE4.2 in Jaunty works out.  Are you using x64 or x86?  (or another)?
[02:21] <lain_wired> Hullo all, I'm trying to install JMF-1.1.2e, but affter the first install came up with an error about folders not being found, the install bin does nothing when executed
[02:21] <timc> unop!
[02:21] <Wolfpawz> Therefore, I turned off the entry password, and locked it with the main password, and it does not BSOD. What causes this?
[02:21] <timc> unop, thank you very much! you too sprinkmeier ;)
[02:21] <eax> Dreamglider: I saved the important files from my xp part, but I can't seem to make it "recover" all the files at all :S When I mount the drive it's empty except for "boot.ini" & "pagefile.sys"
[02:22] <Dreamglider> eax, what happend, what didi u do to mess it up ?
[02:22] <lain_wired> I am now  trying to remove JMF,, but I'm not sure how to do that either. :\
[02:22] <timc> i'll be able to clean up about 200gb of garbage i've been meaning to take care of for some time now
[02:22] <timc> curse the .ape format!
[02:23] <mib_gbc5na> how would i set up a folder/file to have corrret permissions where all users can access it w/o problems
[02:23] <sivik> whoever I was just pming, please send me a message
[02:23] <sivik> mib_gbc5na, read or write perms?
[02:23] <eax> Dreamglider: Yesterday late at night I tried to install Jaunty (beta) on my laptop but I managed to select my NTFS part instead of EXT3 part, I realized my error at about 12% and canceled immediately but to no avail :(
[02:23] <hmw> Wolfpawz: you should probably ask in #grub ...  this sounds very strange... no idea, what is going on here
[02:23] <sei> Hello
[02:23] <_Enchained> :D
[02:23] <rww> !jaunty
[02:23] <daftykins> "chmod 777 /folder/in/question" should make one available to everyone
[02:23] <_Enchained> kdebase and kdebase-workspace installed
[02:24] <_Enchained> and I've KDM + KDE4
[02:24] <_Enchained> (without KDE apps and with my Gnome apps
[02:24] <calmor15014> How's it working?
[02:24] <sei> I'll find out
[02:24] <hmw> xor eax, eax lol... killing windows was a wise decition *g*
[02:24] <_Enchained> Looks great (kde4)
[02:25] <_Enchained> but GTK apps have a bad llok
[02:25] <_Enchained> look*
[02:25] <eax> hmw: Yes ;) Except that the partition contained ALL my notes and I have to use Faildows due to school programs that can't be wined >_>
[02:25] <_Enchained> I think there is a package to correct that
[02:25] <calmor15014> _Enchained Yeah, I think there's a fix for that to make them look a bit better.
[02:25] <hmw> eax: download some recovery stuff, use another fresh hard drive for a new windows setup and hope, you just lost some system files
[02:26] <calmor15014> _Enchained: I was reading somewhere that FF looks like Win95 on KDE without it..
[02:26] <hmw> eax: easy recovery is very fine and can be used in a demo mode for limited time
[02:26] <tertul> anyone tried out the drum machines and such under sound and video?
[02:26] <_Enchained> I confirm that :s
[02:26] <calmor15014> hmw: xor eax, eax?  Isn't that MASM format?
[02:26] <hmw> calmor15014: its a trick to make eax zero faster than using mov
[02:27] <Dreamglider> eax, try photorec, it will recover most files that are left on the partition
[02:27] <sparky_> `Ok, so I have a raid 5 setup on a 8.04.2 home server.  I added another drive to it and it is in the process of reshaping.  I have uped the speed_limit_min from 1000K/s to 10000K/s but I only see a raise in speed from 1500K/s to 3700K/s.  From what I have found thur google it should have increased alot more the just 1200k/s and I have tried other speeds too (lower and higher values).  The max is set at 200000K/s, any suggests on
[02:27] <calmor15014> _Enchained: I was reading it on google somewhere... I'm sure the answer's out there.  Glad to hear you can do a minimal install like that!
[02:27] <eax> hmw: I did recover the notes using testdisk so I'm alright, now I just want to try to see if I can fix the broken partition WITHOUT reinstalling :P
[02:27] <eax> Dreamglider: Thanks :) So just use it and then??
[02:27] <_Enchained> I'm searching for..
[02:27] <hmw> eax: if you manage to achieve this, i will worship you for 27.4 days
[02:28] <_Enchained> It's Gtk-engines-qt :)
[02:28] <Dreamglider> eax, you probably wont get it running with out reinstalling windows :/
[02:28] <calmor15014> hmw: You do any asm in Linux?  I'm doing some for a class right now in windows but the MASM/TASM compilers are ok with that format, I haven't found anything in Linux comparable.
[02:28] <eax> hmw: 27.4? O_O
[02:28] <usser> calmor15014, ehm... nasm?
[02:28] <hmw> calmor15014 sorry, i am just at the beginning of linux coding
[02:29] <eax> Dreamglider: Hmm fair :P I wanna try though >_< I'm simply to lazy to re-install windows. It's just such a hassle! Installing driver and downloading your favorite programs through their webpages >_<
[02:29] <calmor15014> hmw: Hmm, maybe I was thinking of assembly in C... I might even have nasm...
[02:29] <hmw> calmor15014 and the last time i wrote real asm was under dos... (except for redcode)
[02:29] <_Enchained> gtk-qt-engine in fact
[02:30] <Dreamglider> eax, winXP has some sort of auto recovery thing on the CD you might give it a try
[02:30] <calmor15014> _Enchained: Awesome.  What does it make FF look like?  Part of the Oxygen theme?
[02:30] <eax> Dreamglider: Thanks, I'll give it a shot :) Other good advices? :)
[02:30] <Dreamglider> eax, BACKUP! ;)
[02:31] <eax> Dreamglider: Thanks ;) I actually learned that now :P Took a couple of careless years >_<
[02:31] <calmor15014> hmw: I never did write anything of any use in asm... I just like to tinker.  I have to run a virtual DOS or Windows machine at school to code my projects... maybe I'll try the next one with nasm if I can get the headers and linking process down.
[02:31] <Dreamglider> eax, join the club hehe
[02:32] <raden> anyone here former suse users ?
[02:33] <hmw> raden: suse 6.4 lol
[02:33] <LjL> !anyone
[02:33] <xtknight> raden, yeah suse pretty much any version ive used
[02:33] <overrider> hello; is there any IM client that can support skype, at least skypes instant messaging functions, other than skype itself? thanks
[02:33] <eax> Dreamglider: Thanks! I will ;)
[02:34] <eax> Gotta go try saving the rest xD Thanks alot for you help :) It has been highly (what's the word?) enjoyed :) Gotta love seeing the open source community in all its glory :) Have an amazing night/day/evening/forever :)
[02:34] <raden> from a system performance standpoint and reliability point is there much diffrence between the 2 ?
[02:37] <ziroday> If I replace a config file from a new file it renames my old config file to <configfile>.dpkg.old or something similar correct?
[02:37] <ziroday> overrider: pidgin can, but you have to have skype running to use it
[02:37] <_Enchained> calmor15014, I think I must restart something before the change apply...
[02:41] <justinnfx> How come none of my CD burning prog will write under 10x
[02:41] <justinnfx> will ubuntu still work?
[02:42] <eqisow1> yes
[02:42] <rww> justinnfx: the recommendation to burn at a slow speed is a precautionary measure because writing quickly increases the chance of error. 10x should be fine.
[02:43] <breber> good day
[02:43] <justinnfx> Do you have to mark partion as active to install ubuntu / xp to it?
[02:43] <Flannel> justinnfx: Nope
[02:44] <justinnfx> in vista what does marking drive as ative mean?
[02:44] <eqisow1> it's the same as marking it bootable or system
[02:44] <breber> can someone recommend a network monitoring software which is capable of sniffing certain specify packets and generate a statistics of the number of successful and failed requests?
[02:44] <eqisow1> dos/windows needs the flag set to boot from the partition
[02:45] <eqisow1> but the win installer should set it automatically
[02:45] <nocive> breber, wireshark
[02:45] <somebody_> hey guys i just installed ubuntu and i have a dwl650 and its not recongnized, the card works as i was just using it with alt linux distro, this is an old computer and i dont have an ethernet controller for this one... so are the any options on installation to get the card to pop up?
[02:45] <eqisow1> second wireshark
[02:46] <breber> nocive, does wireshark gives a report of the successful and failed requests?
[02:46] <xSlack> Has anyone here successful used a usb bootable linux?
[02:46] <breber> I don't remember it can, can it?
[02:46] <justinnfx> so i have to market xp and ubuntu as active so its bootable
[02:46] <calmor15014> xSlack: yes...
[02:46] <nocive> breber, not sure
[02:46] <eqisow1> justin: just XP. Linux doesn't need the flag
[02:46] <calmor15014> xSlack - www.pendrivelinux.com has several instruction methods.
[02:46] <breber> i have been playing around with snort with BASE
[02:47] <breber> it doesn't really offer what i wanted
[02:47] <xSlack> calmor15014: Cool, ty
[02:48] <justinnfx> How come pluging in one of my hard drive after I installed vista, make it so it wont boot
[02:48] <calmor15014> xSlack: yw.  Keep in mind that some PCs take to them better than others.  My HP laptop doesn't seem to like them as much as others.
[02:48] <calmor15014> _Enchained: Anything after the reboot?
[02:48] <_Enchained> nop
[02:48] <_Enchained> I search
[02:48] <eqisow1> justin: probably because the new hard drive is set to boot first in the bios
[02:48] <_Enchained> qtk-qt-engine didn't done anything
[02:49] <eqisow1> justin: check your BIOS settings and make sure your old drive boots first
[02:50] <breber> guys, thanks for helping out
[02:50] <calmor15014> _Enchained: is it just FF or all GTK apps?
[02:50] <_Enchained> all
[02:50] <_Enchained> I found something
[02:50] <xSlack> calmor15014: Well i was just reading how running apps off usb flash drives was not the best idea in the world, but i always hear about linux on usb, so i was wondering if the bus speed of the usb actually does mess the systems performance up or not
[02:50] <_Enchained> be back
[02:51] <justinnfx> ;lo]
[02:51] <eqisow1> it does, xSlack, but not unbearably. still faster than CD
[02:51] <eqisow1> xSlack: also, a lot of USb distros can load 100% in RAM and be blazing fast
[02:51] <calmor15014> xSlack: just make sure you pick a good USB drive - some are painfuly slow.
[02:52] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  Anyone have some ideas on how to change rc profile to where the tab-completion of filenames and/or commands is case-insensitive (case doesn't matter)?
[02:52] <calmor15014> eqlsow1: I agree - plus, the more read/write done in memory instead of the stick, the better (for life of the drive as well as speed).
[02:53] <Flannel> smo_PenguinStyle: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-shell-setup-filename-tab-completion-case-insensitive/
[02:53] <xSlack> calmor15014: So then I put the usb stick in any pc, does the bios pick that up on boot on all systems, or does that have to be altered before hand
[02:53] <eqisow1> calmor: indeed xSlack: I personally recomend Slax for a great modular USB distro
[02:54] <eqisow1> xSlack: some systems can't boot from USB at all. some will need you to alter BIOS settings, some won't
[02:55] <Dreamglider> there are some floppydisks that enable usbboot tho
[02:55] <xSlack> eqisow1: Cool cool
[03:01] <pros977> I'm trying to find an article that will talk me through the process of getting Ubuntu to boot to a console login instead of gdm
[03:01] <pros977> Any help is appreciated
[03:01] <thinkl00p> anyone else here have problems gettting xmms to play mp3s. I've played with mine since i installed it today, and it still wont play
[03:02] <Flannel> !bum | pros977
[03:02] <Flannel> pros977: just disable GDM
[03:02] <Ndshacker> hello all, is it normal for my cache to be takign up all my free memory?
[03:02] <pros977> aha, I'll try it
[03:03] <aieee> yes
[03:03] <kolby> I am the cookie monster
[03:03] <Ndshacker> hello?
[03:03] <thinkl00p> anyone else using xmms?
[03:03] <Ndshacker> !bash
[03:03] <zamba> thinkl00p: nah, switched it for audacious long time ago
[03:03] <upgrdman> any way to limit simultaneous file download in firefox?
[03:04] <UnderTaker> Whats a good video editor?
[03:04] <pros977> I use cinelera to edit movies
[03:04] <hmw> Ndshacker: if you have little RAM, it is normal that youre "full"
[03:05] <militant_> trying to use remote desktop viewer to hook into the machine downstairs.  it's enabled down there but my connections up here result in a black screen.  any ideas?
[03:05] <pros977> I think there's one called open movie editor... check the ubuntu studio package list
[03:05] <aieee> Ndshacker: you're good
[03:05] <hmw> Ndshacker: mmy machine with 1GB often fills up everything. cache gets smaller, if apps need more ram, though
[03:05] <aieee> Ndshacker: how much RAM do you have?
[03:06] <EruditeHermit> hi, can anyone help me with my LD_LIBRARY_PATH? I have a 64bit system and somewhere that path is getting set to :/usr/lib32 I was wondering if that is normal? if not, how to I go about figuring out where that is being set?
[03:06] <Ndshacker> 1.2 gb
[03:06] <Ndshacker> Cache fills it all up
[03:06] <Ndshacker> doesnt go to swap though
[03:06] <pros977> thanks for the gdm disable tip: stellar.
[03:06] <Ndshacker> Actually memory usage normally id only 500
[03:06] <hmw> Ndshacker: be happy, that your CACHE is not swapped out!
[03:06] <hmw> lol
[03:06] <jturek> hi guys
[03:06] <Ndshacker> really?
[03:06] <zChris> Is there any equilivant to rainlendar for linux ?
[03:06] <Ndshacker> cool then :)
[03:06] <aieee> nds: yeah, I wouldn't worry, esp. if it's not sluggish
[03:07] <rww> zChris: conky
[03:07] <hmw> Ndshacker: yes, the cache is used as a buffer for speeding up several things, like hard drive access... it would be exact the opposite effect, if that cache would be on disk...
[03:07] <jturek> does anybody know of a terminal program like gnome-terminal that has capabilities of adding "buttons" like macros to paste frequent commands i use
[03:07] <zChris> rww: can you put notes in conky? ithought it only displayed information
[03:07] <Ndshacker> aieee: ok I was just worried that it says i have only 1% of my ram left
[03:07] <uhsf> how to avoid permissions denied to hard drive?
[03:08] <sivik> what do you mean uhsf?
[03:08] <Ndshacker> do w/e you need in rot prompt
[03:08] <uhsf> i'm trying to mount a hard drive with user read/write permissions
[03:08] <Ndshacker> *root
[03:09] <Ndshacker> whats the command to kill the gui?
[03:09] <Ndshacker> and to restart it?
[03:09] <sivik> uhsf, thats kinda difficult and very risky
[03:09] <aieee> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[03:09] <aieee> nds: don't know if that's right
[03:09] <uhsf> fstab: /dev/sdc1 /home/uhsf/tb0 ext4 defaults 0 2. Why Permission denied?
[03:09] <eqisow1> aieee: disabled on jaunty
[03:09] <sivik> ushf, are you trying to mount using a normal user or root?
[03:09] <eqisow1> ndshacker: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:10] <Ndshacker> I dont need to restart ...
[03:10] <Ndshacker> i need to stop starty
[03:10] <Ndshacker> from prompt
[03:10] <eqisow1> nds: that restarts the GUI. that's what you wanted, no?
[03:10] <Ndshacker> no
[03:11] <Ndshacker> I want to be able to stop it
[03:11] <sivik> /etc/init.d/gdm stop?
[03:11] <Ndshacker> and then when I actually need it, to start it p again
[03:11] <sivik> /etc/init.d/gdm start when you are ready to start it
[03:11] <thinkl00p> is there a certain plugin i need for audacious to play .mp3s?
[03:11] <eqisow1> what sivik said
[03:11] <sivik> its just like any other running service
[03:11] <zChris> What is the best msn client for linux in the terms of msn features and look alike
[03:11] <eqisow1> zChris: amsn
[03:12] <hmw> Ndshacker: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm {start|stop|restart}
[03:13] <zChris> eqisow1: hmm it looks like shiat :/
[03:14] <kc8pxy> is it known why the netboot livecd possibly hangs at the squashfs part?
[03:15] <Jared> hey guys
[03:17] <chuy_max> hey guys, I have a "AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter" in the latest ubuntu version, proprietary drivers appear activated under "hardware restricted drivers", but it does not work, anything else I should do to make it work?
[03:18] <sprinkmeier> !mp3 | <thinkl00p>
[03:18] <deoptima> chuy_max: try ndiswrapper
[03:18] <Jared> anyone know how to access the boot menu on a vaio so i can run linux? I have a vaio p and i dont know how to access the bios
[03:19] <sprinkmeier> Jared, it's usually F12, ESC or DELETE.
[03:19] <crdlb> chuy_max: install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[03:20] <Jared> didnt think about esc, i may try that next. i know f10 is the hidden partition
[03:20] <Jared> any other keys it might be?
[03:20] <deoptima> just mash the whole top row
[03:20] <mefisto__> Jared: F2 or F3
[03:20] <Jared> awesome thanks
[03:20] <crdlb> chuy_max: then switch the selected driver in Hardware Drivers
[03:23] <chuy_max> crdlb, thanks, I'm trying that
[03:25] <SkyGreenChick> WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!
[03:25] <Kadko> Hello where can i get help for jaunty?
[03:26] <eseven3> !jaunty | Kadko
[03:28] <chuy_max> crdlb, I installed the package you told me, but I do not see any different in Hardware Drivers
[03:28] <chuy_max> crdlb, do I have to restart or do something special?
[03:28] <aspoor> Cloud Computing?
[03:28] <crdlb> chuy_max: you shouldn't need to
[03:28] <aspoor> VM City
[03:28] <sei> Hi
[03:29] <chuy_max> mmm, ok, I got the restart symbol, so it might be possible, Ill try that
[03:29] <binarymutant> hiya sei
[03:29] <crdlb> chuy_max: there should be an "Atheros 5xxx support" or something like that
[03:30] <EruditeHermit> hi, can anyone help me with my LD_LIBRARY_PATH? I have a 64bit system and somewhere that path is getting set to :/usr/lib32 I was wondering if that is normal? if not, how to I go about figuring out where that is being set?
[03:31] <liuyi> ok
[03:31] <liuyi> no hi
[03:31] <liuyi> ho
[03:36] <uhsf> usermod -aG disk uhsf: PAM authentication failed
[03:37] <Flannel> uhsf: sudo adduser user group
[03:38] <uhsf> - User 'uhsf' already exists; please choose another
[03:38] <piratepenguin> how can i make evolution save my msgs locally so i can delete them on the server?
[03:39] <militant_> so wuftpd refuses to start.  can't find any errors either in logs, where should i be checking?
[03:39] <Dante123> hi all, main drive has windows on it.  second hd just added to system already had xubuntu.  How do I make it so that I can boot xubuntu if I want instead of windows without having to reinstall.  How do I add grub to the main windows drive?
[03:39] <Flannel> uhsf: sudo adduser uhsf disk
[03:39] <chuy_max> crdlb, the wireless card is working perfectly. Do you have any idea why my nVidia driver is not working now?, it got deactivated in Hardware Restricted Drivers, and when I click activate, nothing happens
[03:39] <crdlb> chuy_max: I don't know how that could've caused it
[03:40] <uhsf> Flannel: that's what i did and posted the result
[03:41] <Dante123> how do I install grub to MBR of the boot disk and add entry for linux on a second hard drive
[03:42] <Dante123> the first drive is Windows, second has xubuntu
[03:43] <uhsf> why is it so difficult to set up a new hard drive in linux
[03:43] <fr500> how difficult?
[03:44] <uhsf> permissions denied
[03:44] <uhsf> permissions should be enabled by default
[03:44] <lstarnes> uhsf: that's why there is sudo
[03:44] <kulawend> My sound isn't working!
[03:44] <caeroe> any particular reason why my wireless would just stop working, no changes to hardware, no changes to software.  just turn my notebook on and it can no longer detect any wireless networks
[03:45] <mashman> how can i install ubuntu permanently i got ubuntu install but it's only a demo when im trying to install it i got this problem "No Root File System Defined"
[03:45] <caeroe> the lights on, the driver is still there
[03:45] <uhsf> lstarnes: i don't want to sudo everytime i need to manage files on my hard drive
[03:45] <caeroe> my PSP sees it just fine
[03:45] <lstarnes> uhsf: it's just four extra letters and a password
[03:46] <kulawend> I have no sound, any advice?
[03:46] <listar> driver
[03:46] <fr500> uhsf: you connected a new hdd right? did you create a partition?
[03:46] <Flannel> mashman: You need to define a root file system when you're partitioning
[03:47] <mashman> how can i do that Flannel
[03:47] <Flannel> mashman: When you're partitioning, be sure to make one (your main) partition '/'
[03:47] <TonyMontana> Hey does anyone know what the equivilent to window's ipconfig is for Ubuntu?
[03:47] <lstarnes> mashman: the root partition always has a mount point of /
[03:47] <lstarnes> TonyMontana: ifconfig
[03:47] <fr500> uhsf: after the partition is mounted you need to set permissions on the mountpoint (like, if you mount to /media/newdisk chown youruser -R /media/newdisk)
[03:48] <mashman> yah what kind of mount point ?
[03:48] <uhsf> fr500: i did everything alright until i get permissions denied when trying to copy files
[03:48] <Flannel> mashman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall Will walk you through it
[03:48] <uhsf> fr500: that should be done by default in fstab but it's not
[03:49] <fr500> no, fstab just sets mount parameters
[03:49] <mashman> ok trying that
[03:49] <fr500> uhsf: but filesystem permissions are another issue
[03:49] <gRunt> fr500, you can set permissions in fstab though can't you? When it mounts my drive it gives me read and write access.
[03:50] <fr500> gRunt: what filesystem?
[03:50] <gRunt> Im mounting an NTFS drive, someone here helped me with the mounting syntax (for want of a better word) and I get read/wrote
[03:50] <gRunt> write
[03:50] <TonyMontana> Okay what is Ubuntu's equivalent to Window's IPv4?
[03:50] <TonyMontana> what's it called
[03:51] <fr500> gRunt: it's different for an ext3 filesystem
[03:51] <eqisow1> umm.. IPv4
[03:51] <fr500> gRunt: I guess any user can write to any folder on your ntfs drive right?
[03:51] <eqisow1> that's not a windows thing, that's an internet thing :p
[03:51] <gRunt> fr500, im the only user so yes, and I just came in late so didnt realise it was ext3 :)
[03:52] <militant_> trying to enable an ftpd, what's this socket operation on non-socket
[03:53] <mib_iqakd47x> Hello.
[03:54] <t35t0r> is it just me or did a recent update in intel xorg drivers greatly improve performance with i855gm?
[03:54] <t35t0r> i can finally play hd movies without slowdown
[03:56] <gRunt> t35t0r, grats, my laptop doesn't like HD...but thats just evil hardware
[03:56] <t35t0r> testing at gametrailers.com
[03:57] <caeroe> anything?  b43 broadcom, just stopped detecting any wireless networks.  the light is on still.  the driver is activated.  8.10 x64  the wireless signal is fine
[03:59] <Sagaci> is there a way to change the default size of icons and folders on the gnome desktop
[04:00] <soreau> I'm using hardy and being lazy.. which package do I want in order to install vnc?
[04:00] <soreau> xvnc4viewer?
[04:01] <Termz> are you serious
[04:01] <Termz> a channel with over 1000 people
[04:01] <Termz> and only 1 op
[04:01] <Termz> thats retarted
[04:01] <Flannel> Termz: Is it really relevant?
[04:01] <Termz> well theres no subject at the moment that i know of
[04:02] <lstarnes> Termz: there are multiple ops on the access list here.  On this network, ops generally do not use +o unless it is absolutely necessary
[04:02] <Termz> so i dont really see how its not
[04:02] <Flannel> Termz: This channel is for support, please stay on topic.
[04:02] <Termz> i see.
[04:02] <Termz> you need 1300 people to tell people support..
[04:02] <Termz> this is one of the funniest servers yet
[04:02] <Flannel> Termz: Is there anything we can help you with today?
[04:03] <HammerHead66> we only talk about the things we know about and teach others how to use it so yes
[04:03] <Termz> flannel
[04:03] <Termz> if your willing to help me with my anti ban script im makeing
[04:03] <Termz> trying to make it a 1 liner
[04:03] <Termz> invent somthing new
[04:03] <Termz> then that would be nice
[04:04] <Flannel> Termz: Please stop using the enter key as punctuation.
[04:04] <SofiaU> Hello All - I'm new to IRC though not to *nix. Im looking for a specific group of people/enthusiasts - anyone here an IRC ninja :)
[04:04] <Termz> but im so used to it,it makes me feel happy on the inside = )
[04:04] <caeroe> pfft... out of frustration i kept enabling and disabling the wireless check box in gnome... after about 20 tries it works?  what messed up world is this?
[04:05] <Termz> wow..
[04:05] <Termz> that was uncalled for..
[04:05] <Flannel> SofiaU: what are you looking for?
[04:05] <Termz> but seriously if any of you could help me with my script it would be nice
[04:05] <Flannel> !anyone | Termz
[04:06] <Termz> i need to make that command..
[04:06] <SofiaU> Well - To be honest I'm looking for the equivilent of #hack if it still exists. Last Time I was there it was on a 2400baud modem...
[04:06] <Termz> Does anyone/anbody know how to script?
[04:06] <SofiaU> In what language Termx?
[04:06] <Sagaci> Termz: that does not have anything to do with ubuntu support
[04:06] <soreau> Termz: Try #bash
[04:06] <Termz> mirc
[04:06] <eth> Termz, what has that to do with ubuntu?
[04:06] <mashman> Flannel the one that you give is different from my ubuntu
[04:06] <Scooma> Terms you mean that command that makes a thing do a whatchaism... yaknow... the thing
[04:07] <caeroe> generally my solutions make sense, clicking something a million times solved my wireless glitch   now on to xchat issues :)
[04:07] <Flannel> SofiaU: /msg alis #*term* to list the channels with that term in their topic, that may help.
[04:07] <SofiaU> nUbuntu is a great pen teting distro...
[04:07] <Termz> kk bash it is
[04:07] <Termz> whats ubuntu?
[04:07] <Flannel> mashman: It'll be a little bit different, yes.  But not significantly.  Sometimes things change one version to the next.
[04:07] <lstarnes> Termz: #bash is only for bash.  Try ##mirc.  This channel is for ubuntu support only
[04:07] <Termz> whats ubuntu??
[04:08] <HammerHead66> Ubuntu 8.04 it a distrubition of Linux
[04:08] <Scooma> Termz, try google
[04:08] <soreau> ! ubuntu > Termz
[04:08] <Termz> so you sell computers..
[04:08] <lstarnes> Termz: it's a linux distribution
[04:08] <Flannel> Scooma: Please refrain from that sort of attitude.
[04:08] <mashman> Flannel do i really need to create a patitions ?
[04:08] <Scooma> Flannel, he's just jerkin around
[04:08] <Flannel> mashman: If you want to dual boot, yes.  Are you interested in installing inside of windows instead?
[04:09] <mashman> i already use the install inside the windows
[04:09] <Flannel> Scooma: I'm aware, but that doesn't matter.  Ops will take care of trouble users.  We don't need to harass them as well.
[04:09] <Flannel> mashman: You mean with wubi?
[04:09] <mashman> yah
[04:09] <Scooma> rojer rojer
[04:09] <Flannel> mashman: then why are you trying to install again?
[04:10] <mashman> because it has an icon with install icons and examples is that ok ?
[04:10] <huwenfeng> anyone playing nexius under ubuntu?
[04:11] <mashman> so it means the ubuntu is already install in to my pc ?
[04:11] <Flannel> mashman: Do you boot to it without a CD?
[04:11] <mashman> yes Flannel i did
[04:11] <Flannel> mashman: then yes, it's installed.
[04:11] <mashman> ah ic
[04:11] <mashman> that's why so need to install it again ?
[04:11] <Flannel> mashman: Right, no need.
[04:11] <Dante123> hi all, windows on primary drive (boot).  xubuntu on secondary drive just added to the system.  Now I want to make it so that the computer is dual boot from either hard drive.  How do I add grub to mbr of Windows drive?
[04:11] <mashman> i mean don't need to install again
[04:12] <mashman> and regarding with internet set up with dial up i have a problem on that
[04:12] <mashman> and i try to configure in the network configuration but it seems there's no way to create a account for that
[04:12] <huwenfeng> how can i set Ubuntu not to start the gnome desktop environment, until i told it to startx!
[04:13] <Kimi> mashman are you not having live cd inside the cd drive ?
[04:13] <mashman> nope i don't have
[04:13] <huwenfeng> i am running 8.04 LTS, i want to enter the terminal, not the X , when i need X, i will tell it to start that!
[04:13] <Flannel> huwenfeng: Turn off GDM (at boot)
[04:13] <Kimi> mashman the wubi must not show the install ... i think that you are still live cd.. sorry if i am wrong... it must not give install icon
[04:13] <Flannel> !bum | huwenfeng
[04:13] <Kimi> !bum
[04:14] <Kimi> !thanks
[04:14] <mashman> yah your right Kimi i still have the install icon
[04:14] <hamz1lla> Im trying to find a great console client for Ubuntu ; weechat is kinda sketchy... my GPM doesnt work and its like ncurses console point and click client status
[04:14] <hamz1lla> What would you guys recommend for an easy installing console irc client for ubuntu? epic 5 build doesnt work for me
[04:14] <Kimi> mashman you chose "install inside windows" right ?
[04:14] <mashman> yes
[04:15] <Kimi> hamz1lla xchat ?
[04:15] <mashman> and i can boot it without the cd live Kimi
[04:15] <hamz1lla> kimi xchat isnt console
[04:15] <lstarnes> hamz1lla: irssi and weechat are available in the repos
[04:15] <Kimi> ok sorry :P
[04:15] <Kimi> :-O
[04:15] <hamz1lla> lstarnes: I dont even change servers in weechat
[04:15] <hamz1lla> nor scroll down the user list
[04:15] <Kimi> mashman then how do you get install icon ?
[04:16] <hamz1lla> Kimi do you know what Console is? Not Konsole the kde app , but an actuall *nix console?
[04:16] <raymondb> Hi all - I have a QQ about apt-get and pkg version dependencies
[04:16] <raymondb> good place to ask?
[04:16] <mashman> well when i booting the ubuntu and checking the installation i got this message "No File System Define"
[04:16] <Flannel> raymondb: Yep
[04:16] <Kimi> hamz1lla chill.. i didnt read your post properly.. sorry
[04:16] <hamz1lla> I was just asking if you knew im not agro nor emotional at all about the situation
[04:17] <Dante123> how to install grub to windows primary drive so that I can also boot second hard drive with xubuntu???
[04:17] <raymondb> I need ncurses - when I execute "sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev" _ get the msg "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:17] <raymondb>   libncurses5-dev: Depends: libncurses5 (= 5.5-1ubuntu3) but 5.5-2ubuntu1 is to be installed
[04:17] <raymondb> "
[04:17] <raymondb> so I have too new a version of libncurses for *dev ?
[04:18] <Flannel> raymondb: please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update ; apt-cache policy libncurses5-dev`
[04:18] <raymondb> flannel: sure, one sec
[04:20] <hamz1lla> h
[04:20] <drive> a
[04:20] <LcnLnx> my pc (Ubuntu) isnt renewing its IP from dhcpd also running ubuntu. It doesn't renew, just change the IP. any ideas?
[04:21] <Dante123> how to install grub to windows primary drive so that I can also boot second hard drive with xubuntu???  Is this possible or should I just reinstall xubuntu even though that may take a long time and have it do the grub install?
[04:21] <Flannel> !grub | Dante123, first link
[04:21] <dsdeiz> how do i delete files in a read-only system?
[04:21] <raymondb> Flannel: pastebin Sorry, your post tripped our spam filter - let us know if you think this could be improved
[04:21] <raymondb> :(
[04:21] <danc3> hey all, a great new website here:  http://www.ubuntard.com    Check it out!
[04:22] <Flannel> !paste | raymondb
[04:22] <uhsf> chown -R uhsf tb0 was fine
[04:22] <uhsf> my problem was i didn't know i needed to chown the directory even if it was in my ~/ but only after the hard drive was mounted
[04:22] <uhsf> permissions on the directory were changed to root once /dev/sdc1 was mounted on it
[04:23] <uhsf> the permissions set by chown are persistent on the mounted partition even after a reboot, that was not obvious, that's something you just have to know
[04:23] <raymondb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135189/
[04:23] <enterneo> how can I remap alt key as ctrl and vice versa, (coming from OS X, I would prefer ctrl key to be at the place where my alt key is)
[04:23] <raymondb> sorry, was just usign pastebin
[04:24] <Revenger> How to change user's password without using "passwd" command?
[04:24] <Flannel> raymondb: Hmmm, alright.  Pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy libncurses5` too.  Sorry, should've asked that as well.
[04:24] <dsdeiz> anyone?
[04:24] <Flannel> Revenger: Why do you not want to use passwd?
[04:24] <mshade> Revenger: use vipw
[04:24] <sebsebseb>  
[04:24] <mshade> if ubuntu even has that
[04:25] <Revenger> I want to write a script to automate changing password
[04:25] <Revenger> passwd string taken from a function
[04:25] <raymondb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135190/
[04:25] <Jayjax> how do I open a tar
[04:26] <sebsebseb> !tar
[04:26] <AwayML> I'm getting tons of errors when I upgrade a fresh installation - http://pastie.org/423236 - apt/aptitude help pls!
[04:26] <Flannel> raymondb: ah.  You installed libncurses manually at some point?  Or had other repositories enabled or something?
[04:26] <Jayjax> so - sudo apt-get install file-roller
[04:26] <raymondb> the latter
[04:27] <raymondb> I edited my sources at some point
[04:27] <enterneo> how can I remap alt key as ctrl and vice versa, (coming from OS X, I would prefer ctrl key to be at the place where my alt key is)
[04:27] <Flannel> raymondb: Did you add third party repositories?  Just editing the file isn't the end of the world.
[04:27] <mshade> Revenger: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/change-linux-or-unix-system-password-using-php-script.html
[04:27] <mshade> not exactly what you're looking for, but i do think you're going to have to use expect or some ugly ugly sed/awk magic to paste the encrypted string into /etc/shadow
[04:27] <raymondb> don't remember TBH - I removed and replaced some
[04:28] <Flannel> raymondb: Alright.  The issue stems from the fact that the libncurses5 you currently have installed is newer than the one in the repositories.  You... somehow managed that.  What you'll do is remove that one (sudo apt-get remove --purge libncurses5) and then install the proper one (sudo apt-get install libncurses5)
[04:29] <Revenger> mshade I read that article before asking
[04:29] <Revenger> but unfortunately
[04:29] <Revenger> i'm wriitng python script
[04:29] <raymondb> gotcha
[04:29] <raymondb> tnx
[04:29] <raymondb> :)
[04:29] <Revenger> which doesnt support expect
[04:29] <raymondb> makes sense
[04:29] <BinaryDragon> Hello
[04:29] <mshade> Revenger: you might have to call python's exec function
[04:29] <BinaryDragon> how is everyone
[04:29] <mshade> and use expect that way
[04:29] <Mo0oSaH> If I install a .deb file will it update through the repositories once they catch up?
[04:29] <Flannel> Mo0oSaH: Yes
[04:30] <Mo0oSaH> Flannel: Thanks!
[04:30] <Revenger> mshade: yes I guess so
[04:30] <raymondb> WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
[04:30] <raymondb> This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
[04:30] <raymondb>   bash libncurses5 (due to bash) ncurses-base ncurses-bin util-linux lsb-base (due to util-linux)
[04:30] <Revenger> but can we simulate passwd function
[04:30] <raymondb> :O
[04:30] <fr500> hi
[04:30] <raymondb> Flannel:sounds dangerous
[04:30] <fr500> anyone using cherokee with reverse proxy?
[04:30] <Revenger> I mean can we write a script doing exactly what passwd does
[04:30] <Flannel> raymondb: Yuck.  Yeah, we'll have to manually force it back to the lower version.
[04:30] <dsdeiz> anyone knows how i can delete files in a read-only fs?
[04:30] <raymondb> whew
[04:31] <Flannel> raymondb: that's what you'll end up having to do (or, just use passwd)
[04:31] <Flannel> er, Revenger ^^
[04:31] <raymondb> haha - I was wondering :)
[04:31] <raymondb> is there a force - I mand apt-get and could not find how
[04:31] <AnArrayfulOfPerl> dsdeiz: perl -e 'unlink filename'
[04:32] <BinaryDragon> !man
[04:32] <Flannel> raymondb: You'll use apt_preferences (man apt_preferences)
[04:32] <BinaryDragon> !terminal
[04:32] <Revenger> Flannel: I just want to understand how passwd command acts then I can write my own script with additional stuff like : change passwd without prompting
[04:32] <Flannel> raymondb: and you'll have to use a priority higher than 1000 (and then once you fix it, you remove it)
[04:33] <Flannel> raymondb: That is, remove the preference.
[04:33] <Revenger> but it looks like I dont have other choice but using expect
[04:33] <supertanker> Hey, I'm having trouble getting a line in a bash script to work. It apparently calls another script with 'source', but I get a ""17: source: not found"" error
[04:33] <HammerHead66> ﻿dsdeiz:right click on item, go to properties,click it. go to Permissions and change it there
[04:33] <mshade> Revenger: you do have a choice
[04:33] <Kimi> !brasero
[04:33] <mshade> figure out whether /etc/shadow is using MD5 or DES for encrypting
[04:33] <raymondb> OK so I set a pref for the version, then reinstall then remove the version pref
[04:33] <raymondb> ?
[04:33] <Revenger> my system uisng SHA2
[04:33] <Kimi> !openoffice
[04:33] <mshade> Revenger: and you can perform the same operation on your new passwd string and insert it directly
[04:33] <Revenger> $6$
[04:34] <mshade> then find the python function for sha2 string encryption and bone up on your text manipulation to do an insertion in the right location of /etc/shadow
[04:34] <jianna> Enter text here...hola
[04:34] <Dante123> hi all, about to install xubuntu onto a second hard drive (slave).  The first hard drive (master) is the one that the system boots off and has windows.  How do I make it so that xubuntu is installed on the second hard drive (slave) but I can still dual boot windows from the first hard drive?  Do I do anything other than select the slave drive to install xubuntu and let the installer do the rest?  Or do I need to select manual instead
[04:34] <raymondb> flannel: thanks
[04:35] <Revenger> mshade: but i'm stucked with "salt" thing
[04:35] <Revenger> I dont know what should I insert as a salt
[04:35] <shane8002>      /join #politics
[04:35] <HammerHead66> ﻿Dante123: you can change master slave in BIOS when you start up your computer
[04:35] <mshade> can't really help you there.  you should be able to determine what your system is basing the salt on for the passwd cmd and use the same with your script
[04:36] <mshade> a lo of engineering though
[04:36] <Revenger> :( yeah
[04:36] <Revenger> that's a problem
[04:36] <Revenger> maybe I'm gonna use expect for now
[04:36] <Dante123> HammerHead66 what do you mean?  This is already setup with jumpers on each of the drives.
[04:36] <HammerHead66> justset both as masters with no slave
[04:36] <mshade> beware, expect is a demon unto itself ;)
[04:36] <Revenger> and change it in the future if I can figure out how my system works
[04:37] <mshade> check out autoexpect to set up your first expect script
[04:38] <mshade> Revenger: according to this page, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Shadow-Password-HOWTO-2.html, the salt is stored separately -- could be out of date
[04:38] <Revenger> http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-790-changing-password-via-a-script
[04:38] <HammerHead66> when you go into BIOS you will need to go to boot and then go to hard drives and set it there
[04:38] <Revenger> yes I know that
[04:38] <Revenger> :(
[04:38] <HammerHead66> I have mine set up that way
[04:39] <Dante123> HammerHead66 I went ahead and told it to install on the sdb (second hard drive).  Under "advanced" I see that it will install boot loader to hd0
[04:39] <supertanker> I can type 'source' into the command line fine, but calling it inside a bash script fails. Any idea why?
[04:39] <Dante123> So I think I am okay
[04:40] <HammerHead66> when I load un the install I took out all partions and mounted it to the hole hd
[04:41] <HammerHead66> I hold no problems that way
[04:41] <dparker> supertanker - try just the period syntax for inclusion, and specify the full path to the file
[04:41] <TomH1973> Hello any one chating in here about Ubuntu?
[04:41] <dparker> e.g.  . /usr/local/bin/myinclude.sh
[04:41] <HammerHead66> tomH all of us are
[04:42] <supertanker> dparker, ah, that worked, thanks. I was trying to use sh
[04:42] <supertanker> thanks
[04:42] <TomH1973> Ok so how can I get Ubuntu to work right on My computer
[04:42] <dparker> supertanker - np
[04:42] <Brodey> Hey I have a music streaming problem....I use Songbird and I get an internal streaming error
[04:42] <mshade> Revenger: if you wanted to be uber-insecure, you could use the same salt with every password generated... but i didn't tell you that ;)
[04:42] <mshade> i don't think the salt has to be anything in particular
[04:42] <HammerHead66> where are u running into problems?
[04:43] <Brodey> me?
[04:43] <HammerHead66> TomH sorry
[04:43] <mshade> create a test user account and generate an SHA2 password with the salt '123456' or somesuch.
[04:43] <mshade> should still work, Revenger
[04:43] <Revenger> mshade yes
[04:43] <Revenger> but i think it's kinda insecured
[04:43] <Revenger> echo "password:name" | chpasswd
[04:43] <TomH1973> First of all I have a Verry old Computer it is a HP Vectra it has a max of 500mhz on the cpu
[04:43] <Revenger> not sure if this method works
[04:44] <mshade> it would be. you'd be doing away with the hash
[04:44] <chalcedony> Revenger: hi hi :)
[04:44] <Revenger> haha
[04:44]  * chalcedony smiles
[04:44] <TomH1973> So the problem is the Sound
[04:45] <HammerHead66> TomH what kind of video card do you have?
[04:45] <mshade> Revenger: why not do it this way:
[04:45] <mshade> # echo "newpass" |passwd -f --stdin testuser
[04:45] <mshade> that should work fine
[04:45] <Revenger> yes
[04:45] <Revenger> i'm testing it now
[04:45] <TomH1973> My video and sound card are on the mother board
[04:45] <mshade> and could be wrapped in an exec / bash function
[04:45] <mshade> Revenger: i just tested it. worked fine :)
[04:45] <Revenger> :)
[04:45] <Revenger> same here
[04:45] <Revenger> :)
[04:46] <Revenger> thanks a lot
[04:46] <Revenger> :)
[04:46] <Revenger> mshade
[04:46] <FloodBot3> Revenger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:46] <HammerHead66> TomH but with ATI graphic cards the sound still goes through the graphic card so what graphic card do you have
[04:47] <TomH1973> I have  I guess what they call a Dual Boot computer
[04:47] <mshade> Revenger: you bet
[04:47] <militant_> i had apache2 and gallery2 up working fine.  suddenly people are being offered a download of the ront page instead ofa  display of it.  i've installed a few things since then, such as amaya.  what gives?
[04:47] <maxxist> so does anyone else hate Superdrives?  iTunes and Disk utility hasnt been able to Calibrate the laser since a month after my MBP Santa Rosa turned a year old.  its so frustrating.
[04:47] <Revenger> mshade I Pmed you
[04:48] <HammerHead66> tomH ok but that will have nothing to do withthe sound
[04:48] <HammerHead66> TomH do you know how to check what graghic card you have on your PC?
[04:49] <linux_stu> is there any decent webcam chat software available for linux?
[04:49] <TomH1973> My video Card is a Matrox G200 BB
[04:50] <Revenger> mshade I Pmed you
[04:50] <TomH1973> This is what window says
[04:50] <TomH1973> did you get that hammerhead?
[04:50] <mshade> Revenger: and i pm'd you back
[04:50] <HammerHead66> TomH yes
[04:51] <Keevo> Hey guys
[04:51] <guest1234_> Hello, all. I'm having something of an odd problem: I just upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 and now, when I try to log in, the process progresses to the ubuntu load screen, then gives me a black background with white text and asks me to login.
[04:51] <guest1234_> Once I've logged in, it allows me to execute normal terminal commands.
[04:52] <guest1234_> I entered sudo apt-get install gnome
[04:52] <HammerHead66> TomH do you have any sound at all? Or have you checked the Mute? Have you checked the settings on the sound?
[04:52] <guest1234_> and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:52] <TomH1973> In Ubuntu the audio works then stops and you have to move the volume control up or down for it to work agian
[04:52] <guest1234_> But I haven't gotten any results.
[04:52] <guest1234_> It stays stuck at a screen informing me that Ubuntu has no warranty and that I should consult the help page.
[04:52] <mashman> who know's how to setup the dial up connection on wubi ?
[04:52] <guest1234_> Any ideas?
[04:53] <Keevo> uhh, should i just wait before asking help with my problem?
[04:53] <TomH1973> Right Now I am On the Windows Xp side of my computer just to let you know
[04:53] <HammerHead66> so the problem is on linux then right?
[04:53] <Brodey> I have a sound problem gstreamer fails to connect to streams, idk what is causing it but it happened after I installed a bunch of apps and packages
[04:53] <semper97> ok any one know how to fix the timidity package thing wrong with ubuntu-studios-audio??
[04:53] <TomH1973> yess
[04:54] <HammerHead66> TomH can you change over for me?
[04:54] <addisson> Keevo no just fire away with your question.
[04:54] <Keevo> Well, okay then. So uhh, basically, I have no audio.
[04:54] <semper97> ok any one know how to fix the timidity package thing wrong with ubuntu-studios-audio??
[04:54] <semper97> ok any one know how to fix the timidity package thing wrong with ubuntu-studios-audio??
[04:54] <semper97> ok any one know how to fix the timidity package thing wrong with ubuntu-studios-audio??
[04:54] <FloodBot3> semper97: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:55] <HammerHead66> ﻿Keevo: wait I'll help you in a min ok
[04:55] <TomH1973> Ok so  I will have to reboot  I guess  I will have to wire down the link in the URL and will Be back
[04:55] <HammerHead66> ok TomH see you then
[04:56] <Keevo> It's weird though because when I go into System > Preferences > Sound, I change one of the options and I click Test, and I hear a noise which I assume means it works.
[04:57] <HammerHead66> ﻿Keevo: what program does it not work in?
[04:57] <Keevo> I'm just trying to play audio through Youtube and I don't hear anything.
[04:57] <Keevo> But I don't believe I've heard any audio from Ubuntu.
[04:57] <HammerHead66> did you update flash?
[04:57] <Keevo> I just installed it.
[04:58] <HammerHead66> are yu running 64bit or 32 bit?
[04:58] <spamjam> hi, can anybody help me with wine in 8.10? i tried installing it and i can't see the config menu. it shows no text and when i try to install warcraft 3, it throws errors. how can i fix this?
[04:58] <Keevo> 32
[04:58] <HammerHead66> how did u install it?
[04:59] <HammerHead66> the flash take me step by step ok
[04:59] <Keevo> tbh, i just downloaded and burned the ISO to a cd and am running off of the CD
[04:59] <Keevo> ohhh
[05:00] <Keevo> But I don't think I'm getting sound from anything.
[05:00] <HammerHead66> I had the same problem but it was because i didn't install flash right
[05:00] <Keevo> Uhh, I take that back.
[05:00] <Keevo> It must be Flash.
[05:01] <Keevo> I just clicked the link to download Flash when it told me to.
[05:01] <Keevo> downloaded it and installed it
[05:01] <HammerHead66> ok but then you have to install it after you download it
[05:01] <eqisow1> are you running the 32 or 64bit ISO Keevo?
[05:01] <HammerHead66> 32bit
[05:01] <HammerHead66> it didn't install right
[05:02] <HammerHead66> you need to reinstall it
[05:02] <dats_> anyone know how to add ssh keys to ldap?
[05:02] <Keevo> How should I reinstall it?
[05:02] <Kimi> mashman are you there ?
[05:02] <HammerHead66> try doing it through the terminal
[05:03] <eqisow1> Keevo: Apps --> Accessories --> Terminal then copy/paste sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:03] <guest1234_> Anyone got help for me? I don't want to get lost in the scrolling down.
[05:03] <HammerHead66> I found it to go through that way
[05:03] <eqisow1> be sure to restart firefox
[05:03] <Kimi> how do start an application like firefox from terminal ?
[05:03] <eqisow1> Kimi: just type firefox
[05:03] <HammerHead66> you don't have to
[05:03] <Kimi> ok
[05:04] <spamjam> can somebody help me with getting wine to work please? :)
[05:04] <HammerHead66> where did you save it on your hard drive?
[05:04] <netskillsii> how to start using fprint_demo after enrolling prints? HELP???
[05:04] <HammerHead66> desktop?
[05:04] <Keevo> Should it work right after doing that?
[05:04] <Kimi> eqisow1 if there is space between names , then ? like sound recorder
[05:04] <Kimi> how to ?
[05:05] <HammerHead66> ﻿Keevo: where did you save the file to?
[05:05] <todd> #xml
[05:05] <Keevo> I just did the Termainl thing.
[05:05] <Kimi> eqisow1 if there is spaces between the name like "sound recorder" then how to ?
[05:06] <netskillsii> spamjam: install wine by opening terminal and typing sudo apt-get install wine
[05:06] <HammerHead66> type to me what you did in terminal so I know you did it right, ok.
[05:06] <Keevo> I copied and pasted that whole "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:06] <Keevo> without the quotes
[05:07] <Kimi> eqisow1 how ?
[05:07] <HammerHead66> and what did it do?
[05:07] <erisco_> what allows me to analyze the pixels being displayed on the desktop and interact with the mouse (to macro click sequences)?
[05:07] <rashed2020> Yo ooboontoooooooo
[05:07] <erisco_> from a programming persepective...
[05:07] <Keevo> It said "Reading package lists... Done"
[05:07] <rashed2020> How do I manage users? from the CLI
[05:07] <Flannel> rashed2020: useradd is a good place to start
[05:07] <HammerHead66> does it work now?
[05:07] <Keevo> well, in the end, it said "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[05:08] <hmw> when accidently dragging a menu item out of the main menu, how can i cancel the drag operation?
[05:08] <rashed2020> Flannel: I'm looking for a way to list all users in the system
[05:08] <Flannel> rashed2020: ah, cat /etc/passwd
[05:08] <Keevo> Also, it said "Note, selecting adobe-flashplugin instead of flashplugin-nonfree adobe-flashplugin is already the newest version."
[05:08] <quizme> where can i see smtp login failures?
[05:09] <todd> anyone know much about xsl???
[05:10] <netskillsii> need help with fprint_demo????
[05:10] <addisson> kimi: type gnome-sound-recorder
[05:11] <HammerHead66> so it didn't install you will have to go to Adobe flash download online and download it from there save it to your desktop. then make it executable. then go to terminal and type      cd Desktop    then hit enter  type in sudo ./           what ever the file name is after the / ok
[05:12] <HammerHead66> you get that ﻿Keevo
[05:12] <Kimi> addisson thanks.....worked
[05:12] <addisson> No problem :)
[05:13] <Doni> hi
[05:13] <Keevo> Hmm. That's weird.
[05:13] <Keevo> I did the desktop thing and that worked.
[05:13] <Keevo> But the sudo./ thing isn't working
[05:14] <Zallik> does ubuntu have Xhost / Xserver?
[05:14] <Cpudan80> Keevo: sudo ./ ?
[05:14] <Cpudan80> Keevo: that wont do anything
[05:14] <HammerHead66> ﻿Keevo:    ok type this ok                                cd Desktop                                  just cut and paste it
[05:14] <Keevo> that worked
[05:14] <Cpudan80> what are you trying to do?
[05:14] <RobotCow> how can i get gobby version 0.4.10 in ubuntu
[05:15] <Keevo> i mean the sudo./install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[05:15] <HammerHead66> ﻿Keevo:                     dir                        hit enter
[05:15] <Cpudan80> !info gobby
[05:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Keevo: Your earlier messages said that "adobe-flashplugin" is installed, which is the preferred install from the Canonical partner repository
[05:15] <Cpudan80> RobotCow: sudo apt-get install gobby
[05:15] <RobotCow> Cpudan80, that's not version 0.4.10
[05:15] <Stylee> how can I pack a fail in 2 files with rar?
[05:15] <Keevo> Okay, did the dir thing
[05:16] <RobotCow> incompatible with other gobby users, cant connect
[05:16] <Cpudan80> RobotCow: oh hmm missed that -- well you can see if there is a PPA for it
[05:16] <HammerHead66> what file are there ﻿Keevo?
[05:16] <Keevo> Examples  install_flash_player_10_linux.deb  ubiquity-gtkui.desktop
[05:16] <W473D> hey whats up room... im trying do an nslookup on my dns server for security issues on ubuntu but im stuck... ls -h 192.168.1.1 prompts and says ls command is not implemented ???? how do i implement it? any idea?
[05:16] <RobotCow> Cpudan80, whats a PPA?
[05:16] <Flannel> RobotCow: The Jaunty version will have that fix soon.
[05:17] <RobotCow> Flannel, i checked packages.ubuntu.com and jaunty's version is still a little out of date
[05:17] <Flannel> RobotCow: Actually, I take that back.  Jaunty already has the newest version.
[05:17] <Cpudan80> RobotCow: a repository you can add directly to synaptic so it pulls down the newer versions as they're released
[05:17] <HammerHead66> ﻿Keevo:                   sudo ./﻿install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[05:17] <addisson> RobotCow: try here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gobby/0.4.1-1ubuntu1
[05:18] <Keevo> command not found
[05:18] <W473D> How do you implement commands with nslookup?
[05:18] <Flannel> RobotCow: If you're on non-jaunty, you can use prevu to backport Jaunty's version.  Which is what you want.
[05:18] <Flannel> !prevu | RobotCow
[05:18] <HammerHead66> if that doesn't work download different .tar .deb or what ever form and do it just like befor
[05:18] <HammerHead66> one will work
[05:19] <Cpudan80> Flannel: would be better to use a PPA IMHO, but doesnt look like they've got one
[05:19] <Cpudan80> only because Im guessing he wants to stay up to date
[05:19] <Flannel> Cpudan80: eh?  There's nothing wrong with the Jaunty version.  Its the version he wants, and gobby is fine to backport.
[05:20] <duxbarak> my rollover audio preview in file browser doesn't work, any suggestions?
[05:20] <Cpudan80> Flannel: well yeah, but the PPA would carry over if/when he upgrades to Jaunty  -- the prevu thing just pulls down the current version from Jaunty -- I'm assuming that will go out of date after a while ..
[05:20] <Flannel> Cpudan80: yes, but he can re-backport it with prevu when he wants to upgrade.
[05:21] <HammerHead66> ﻿Keevo: did it work?
[05:21] <Keevo> Nope. It said command not found.
[05:21] <Cpudan80> Flannel: kind of a moot point anyway -- no PPA for it
[05:21] <HammerHead66> try   another file type
[05:21] <Keevo> Eh?
[05:22] <HammerHead66> .tar  .tg   whatever
[05:22] <HammerHead66> try them all the same way
[05:22] <Cpudan80> I don't believe my eyes!
[05:23] <Cpudan80> Did Ubuntu finally push OO 3.0 to Intrepid repositories ?
[05:23] <Cpudan80> !info open-office
[05:23] <Cpudan80> hmmm I fail with the bot
[05:23] <Flannel> !info openoffice.org-base
[05:24] <Keevo> What is it supposed to be?
[05:24] <Cpudan80> Hmm
[05:24] <Keevo> sudo ,.
[05:24] <Keevo> sudo ./
[05:24] <Cpudan80> Should be 3.0
[05:24] <Cpudan80> Keevo: sudo ./executable
[05:24] <ganga> hi there
[05:24] <HammerHead66> yes just like before in all commands ﻿Keevo
[05:24] <duxbarak> is 3.0 going to be in 9.04?
[05:24] <Flannel> duxbarak: It already is
[05:24] <Cpudan80> Keevo: it needs to have the X bit set ---- chmod +x /path/to/file; sudo /path/to/file
[05:25] <Cpudan80> . is understood to be the current directory
[05:25] <duxbarak> Flannel: already in 8.10?
[05:25] <ganga> I'm trying to get cinelerra in ubuntu 9.04 alpha6
[05:25] <Flannel> duxbarak: No, already in Jaunty
[05:25] <Cpudan80> so if you are in /a/long/way/deep/into/a/tree -- you can do . instead of typing all that mess
[05:25] <Flannel> ganga: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks
[05:25] <ganga> someone could do it?
[05:25] <duxbarak> Flannel: perfect
[05:25] <Cpudan80> Flannel: any idea why they haven't pushed it to Intrepid ?
[05:25] <duxbarak> :)
[05:26] <Flannel> Cpudan80: Because... they wont?  They may put it in -backports
[05:26] <zhanxuw> Hey,I just have compiled a kernel,who can tell me where is the compiling log file
[05:26] <Cpudan80> Flannel: but why not? It's not hard to do ...
[05:26] <Flannel> Cpudan80: Versions are frozen... like always.
[05:26] <RobotCow> what does this mean? Requested 'obby-0.4 >= 0.4.6' but version of obby is 0.4.5
[05:26] <listar> hello
[05:26] <Cpudan80> Flannel: oh right right
[05:27] <Flannel> RobotCow: You need to use prevu, the Jaunty deb won't work on what you have (you have to backport)
[05:27] <Cpudan80> RobotCow: you are .001 too low is what it means
[05:27] <Keevo> Yeah...now it says no such file or directory.
[05:27] <noren_> where can i find a good power management guide for ubuntu
[05:27] <Cpudan80> Keevo: what are you even trying to do?
[05:27] <Keevo> Well, I don't have any audio when I watch a Flash video.
[05:27] <HammerHead66> did you download them from adobe before you tried to install them? Keevo?
[05:28] <Keevo> So everyone is telling me to re-install Flash via Terminal
[05:28] <Keevo> Downloaded them all from Adobe.
[05:28] <Cpudan80> Keevo: ok; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:28] <HammerHead66> yes
[05:28] <TomH1973> hello
[05:28] <Cpudan80> Don't download the things from adobe
[05:28] <Keevo> Tried that, didn't do anything.
[05:28] <addisson> Cpudan80: Keevo is trying to install flash while using the Ubuntu live CD
[05:28] <TomH1973> sorry had to install java
[05:28] <Cpudan80> while using the live CD?
[05:28] <Keevo> Should I not use the Live CD?
[05:28] <Cpudan80> What the ... why ?
[05:28] <addisson> Cpudan80: yeah I believe so
[05:28] <TonyMontana> Is there a verizon channel somewhere?
[05:29] <Cpudan80> Keevo: is ubuntu installed to your computer?
[05:29] <Keevo> I was going to install it to my Flash Drive today, but it told me my 2 gig flash drive wasn't enough.
[05:29] <Cpudan80> TonyMontana: #defocus
[05:29] <Keevo> Oh crud. It isn't. I should have mentioned that earlier.
[05:29] <Cpudan80> TonyMontana: that's the "catchall channel"
[05:29] <TomH1973> Hamerhead you there?
[05:29] <HammerHead66> did you remember to make all the files excitable? Keevo
[05:29] <Cpudan80> Keevo: ok but are you booted to the actual installed OS ?
[05:29] <Keevo> What do you mean?
[05:30] <Cpudan80> For example, my computer has two OSs on the HDD -- Ubuntu and XP
[05:30] <TomH1973> Join Ubuntu
[05:30] <Cpudan80> I am sitting in Ubuntu right now
[05:30] <zhanxuw> someone see my question? :)
[05:30] <Cpudan80> I am not running a live CD, live USB key or ..... what is your situation Keevo
[05:30] <HammerHead66> Keevo:every file that you downloaded has to be made to be executable before it will work.
[05:30] <Keevo> Err, Live CD
[05:31] <Cpudan80> Did you enable to the other repositories ?
[05:31] <Cpudan80> the nonfree thing is not on the liveCD
[05:31] <linux_stu> how can i adjust ubuntu to only have one desktop?  (the default is two, i only want one)
[05:31] <HammerHead66> right click it then go to pref then go to premissions
[05:31] <Keevo> You know what.
[05:31] <Keevo> I'm gonna go install this right now.
[05:31] <Cpudan80> linux_stu: just remove the panel applet
[05:32] <nst> Hello
[05:32] <linux_stu> Cpudan80, ctrl+alt+left/right arrow still switches desktops
[05:32] <Keevo> Sorry for being an idiot.
[05:32] <Cpudan80> linux_stu: or well - right click it - hit properties - set it to 1x1
[05:32] <nst> Sometimes.my cpmputer have no sound.
[05:32] <scunizi> linux_stu: right mouse click and preferences then make your change
[05:32] <nst> how to slove it
[05:33] <linux_stu> thanks scunizi, Cpudan80
[05:33] <HammerHead66> you are not an ﻿idiot Keevo! u just forgot to do a step
[05:33] <HammerHead66> Keevo : no big deal
[05:33] <ziroday> nst: you need to capture an error message for us. Next time it happens open up totem in a terminal and try play an audio file and then pastebin the output for us please
[05:33] <Cpudan80> HammerHead66: too bad he left before you got that in there ;-)
[05:34] <HammerHead66> O well maybe he'll come back
[05:34] <Cpudan80> well I need to get some sleep
[05:34] <nst> O,I will have a try
[05:34] <Cpudan80> c ya
[05:34] <HammerHead66> later
[05:35] <TomH1973> I have no sound I did hear some sound on start up
[05:35] <addisson> HammerHead66: Keevo's going to go install ubuntu. Should work out after no probs
[05:35] <HammerHead66> TomH did u try to play a cd?
[05:35] <TomH1973> not yet
[05:35] <HammerHead66> ﻿addisson: kool deal
[05:36] <HammerHead66> TomH: let me know if it works ok.
[05:36] <TomH1973> ok
[05:37] <HammerHead66> I'll bb in like 10 mins guys ok
[05:37] <addisson> HammerHead66: cool
[05:37] <silv3r_m00n> hi thre
[05:38] <silv3r_m00n> where can I get fonts like this >> http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7232/fontst.jpg
[05:38] <silv3r_m00n> or which fonts are these
[05:38] <Flannel> silv3r_m00n: Looks ... sort of like DejaVu Sans?
[05:39] <silv3r_m00n> let me check
[05:39] <silv3r_m00n> Flannel: no .. that is too light
[05:39] <ziroday> silv3r_m00n: try Droid Sans perhaps
[05:40] <silv3r_m00n> let me check
[05:40] <Flannel> silv3r_m00n: or Bitstream Vera Sans
[05:41] <silv3r_m00n> Flannel: bitstream vera sans resembles this one ... but not perfectly this
[05:42] <TomH1973> No Luck the cd will Not play and it it a regular audio cd
[05:42] <nst>  in the terminal   alsamixer >F5  There is no "Master"
[05:43] <addisson> TomH: HammerHead stepped out for a few mins.  Be right back
[05:43] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: any download link for droid sans
[05:43] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: found it
[05:43] <ziroday> silv3r_m00n: its in the repo's. Install the ttf-droid package
[05:43] <ziroday> silv3r_m00n: okay
[05:44] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: that's good
[05:44] <Zallik> how do i get X working?
[05:44] <Zallik> it keeps telling me it cannot start
[05:44] <ziroday> Zallik: exact error message?
[05:44] <TomH1973> No sound
[05:45] <nst> success
[05:45] <Zallik> x: cannot stat /ect/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting
[05:45] <W473D> how do you send the out put from a terminal to a txt file. when i run netstat it over flows the terminal and i cant scroll to the top how can i get around that?
[05:45] <newmember> When running atop what is the good number for DSK access?
[05:45] <addisson> TomH: could you try playing the CD in dragon player?
[05:45] <newmember> what is a bad number for DSK access?
[05:45] <Zallik> W473D add > file.txt
[05:46] <Zallik> as in ls >txtfilewithstuff.txt
[05:46] <ziroday> Zallik: err does your /etc/X11 dir exist?
[05:46] <Zallik> hmmm....
[05:46] <nocive_> g'night all
[05:46] <TomH1973> I don't have Dragon I just started Using Ubuntu
[05:47] <listar> it doesn't matter
[05:47] <nocive_> anyone has a clevo laptop? I have a Clevo M860TU with no /proc/acpi/video files, as a result I have no display brightness control and no console tty terminals. Any help appreciated :)
[05:47] <TomH1973> Should I just download wine and install Gnome Player
[05:47] <ziroday> TomH1973: the audio cd should play in rhythmbox
[05:47] <addisson> TomH: Applications > Sound and Video > Dragon Player
[05:47] <listar> just down the realplayer
[05:47] <listar> it is good
[05:48] <ziroday> TomH1973: can you please try playing the audio cd through rhythmbox and tell us what happens.
[05:48] <nst> how to say like this "ziroday: Zallik: err does your /etc/X11 dir exist?".Everyone can see them and it means ziroday say to Zallik
[05:48] <ziroday> nst: type in the first few letters of the nick and then hit tab. So for instance zirod<tab>
[05:48] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: yes .. droid sans looks a lot like that
[05:49] <silv3r_m00n> almost same
[05:49] <ziroday> silv3r_m00n: yay
[05:49] <TomH1973> Rhythmbox is what I have and my Ubuntu copy is 8.10
[05:49] <ziroday> TomH1973: okay, did you try play the audio cd in there.
[05:49] <newmember> I think I have a disk access problem, its really slow.  What should I do varify disk access speeds?
[05:49] <nst> ziroday:Thank you
[05:49] <ziroday> Zallik: okay, you sure that is the exact error message?
[05:50] <ziroday> Zallik: I will _not_ help you in PM. Please keep it in the main channel.
[05:50] <nst> ziroday:got it
[05:50] <ziroday> nst: awesome
[05:51] <nst> ziroday:own to you
[05:51] <Zallik> root@###:/home/## X 138.217.156.155
[05:51] <Zallik> X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
[05:52] <ziroday> Zallik: err are you using ubuntu?
[05:52] <Zallik> yea... pretty sure
[05:52] <Zallik> how do i check the id?
[05:52] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: but there is still some difference
[05:52] <ziroday> Zallik: lsb_release -a
[05:52] <silv3r_m00n> its not perfectly like that
[05:52] <silv3r_m00n> any other fonts ?
[05:52] <Zallik> No LSB modules are available.
[05:52] <Zallik> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[05:52] <Zallik> Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.1
[05:52] <Zallik> Release:        8.04
[05:52] <Zallik> Codename:       hardy
[05:52] <FloodBot3> Zallik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:52] <doseryder> Hi
[05:52] <ziroday> silv3r_m00n: I'm sorry, thats the closest font I know :(. Maybe Helvetica Neue, but thats probably too thin.
[05:53] <nst> doseryder: HI
[05:53] <Zallik> lol... was that my password?
[05:53] <Zallik> codename?
[05:53] <kavurt> does anybody use mibbit for irc?
[05:53] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: hmm .. no probs
[05:53] <ziroday> Zallik: nope, you are running ubuntu. How are you logged in as root and why?
[05:53] <Flannel> Zallik: No, that's the code name for ubuntu 8.04
[05:53] <Zallik> lol
[05:54] <doseryder> Sometime ago I learned that Sli is not supported.  Suppose I buy a gtx295 (which is sli configured), will I be able to take advantage of both gpus?
[05:54] <irc1> hey guys, i just installed 8.10 on vmware as a guestos but when it boots up it boots up to terminal instead of the desktop envirenment, any ideas why?
[05:54] <Zallik> i changed to root, coz i cant sudo properly, the password doesnt work, so i just have 2 change to root to do things
[05:54] <joetheodd> ziroday, sudo passwd root will change the root password (although Father Security doesn't recommend it)
[05:54] <doseryder> Is sli now support in the linux nvidia drivers?
[05:54] <joetheodd> ziroday, then you just type 'su' and type root's new password, hi, i'm root.
[05:54] <doseryder> s/support/supported
[05:54] <ziroday> joetheodd: I'm aware as to how to do it, why you would do it is another thing :)
[05:55] <scunizi> irc1: did you install server?
[05:55] <ziroday> !noroot > joetheodd
[05:55] <mvalviar> hi fellas. Just a small issue. Whenever I go to guess session the desktop ain't pretty. When I try to correct it using System>Pref>Appearance it says "Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'
[05:55] <joetheodd> ziroday, ah, thought you asked how. Alcohol makes me misinterpret.
[05:55] <TomH1973> Ok I can Play music in rythem but sounds realy chopy
[05:55] <irc1> scunizi, no, its ubuntu-desktop
[05:55] <ziroday> Zallik: err okay. Well root is not really supported here. Try doing startx or /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:55] <doseryder> does anyone know?
[05:55] <ziroday> joetheodd: no worries :D
[05:55] <doseryder> it should be a common question
[05:55] <ziroday> TomH1973: try killing pulseaudio
[05:56] <TomH1973> Pulseaudio where is that at?
[05:56] <irc1> gives this error when it boots kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot...
[05:56] <ziroday> doseryder: Well I don't but the kind folks in #nvidia might, or if you give me a minute to google around
[05:56] <irc1> and gives me the login page
[05:56] <irc1> i mean asks for login in terminal
[05:56] <Zallik> bash: /etc/init.d/gdm: No such file or directory
[05:57] <doseryder> thanks ziroday
[05:57] <ziroday> TomH1973: try do pkill pulseaudio
[05:57] <jeeeez> hi, how do i unmount /home and check the filesystem for errors?
[05:57] <nocive_> doseryder: that's a question you should address here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 but I believe SLI is supported in most of the cases.
[05:57] <Flannel> jeeeez: the easiest way is `sudo touch /forcefsck` and then reboot
[05:57] <joetheodd> doseryder, I did a quick google of "sli ubuntu" and this forum topic looks promising -- http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=607385
[05:57] <Flannel> jeeeez: (and it'll fsck while you boot-- taking longer than normal, etc)
[05:58] <jeeeez> Flannel: thanks, but where do i mention which partition to check?
[05:58] <TomH1973> What?
[05:58] <ziroday> Zallik: try typing in startx
[05:58] <HammerHead66> ok back sory about that
[05:58] <irc1> "cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied" when i run startx
[05:58] <irc1> what does that mean?
[05:58] <Zallik> that didnt work either ziroday
[05:58] <[_[__Luly__]_]> español
[05:58] <ziroday> !es | [_[__Luly__]_]
[05:58] <Zallik> bash: startx: command not found
[05:59] <ziroday> Zallik: and you just typed in startx correct?
[05:59] <Flannel> jeeeez: It'll mention all of them, actually.  As per your 'regularly scheduled' autofscks.  You can actually change which ones in your fstab (last field, pass)
[05:59] <Zallik> wats the case?
[05:59] <ziroday> Zallik: lower case
[05:59] <Zallik> yea,
[05:59] <jeeeez> okay, brb, let me try that out
[05:59] <Zallik> yea, it didnt work ???
[05:59] <joetheodd> I think startx has to be done by root.
[05:59] <Zallik> is there anything i need to get?
[05:59] <TomH1973> Hammer I Tried to play a cd but Sounded real bad
[05:59] <Zallik> anyhting i need to d/l?
[06:00] <joetheodd> As well as gdm (gnome desktop manager), which will land you at the standard login screen.
[06:00] <ziroday> Zallik: what version of ubuntu did you install? Desktop?
[06:00] <Zallik> i installed it on a remote server, and im just SSH'ing in
[06:00] <ziroday> joetheodd: he's logged in as root, as "sudo isn't working"
[06:00] <TomH1973> the sound was chopy and also had the same respons while viewing a video on the Today show website page
[06:00] <HammerHead66> TomH did u try to change sound settings
[06:01] <Zallik> i no loggin in as root, as bad, but i cant get sudo to work...?
[06:01] <TomH1973> ok How do I do that I am New to Ubuntu
[06:01] <[_[__Luly__]_]> HAY DRIVER DE VIDEO SIS PARA UBUNTU?????
[06:01] <ziroday> Zallik: I believe you need to reinstall. Futhermore running as root is dangerous. And ssh won't display graphical apps unless you enable X forwarding by doing ssh -X but it will still be _very very_ slow
[06:01] <[_[__Luly__]_]> O EN QUE DISTRO PUEDO CONSEGUIRLO
[06:02] <HammerHead66> TomH go to system
[06:02] <ziroday> !es | [_[__Luly__]_]
[06:02] <HammerHead66> pref
[06:02] <EruditeHermit> hi, can anyone help me with my LD_LIBRARY_PATH? I have a 64bit system and somewhere that path is getting set to :/usr/lib32 I was wondering if that is normal? if not, how to I go about figuring out where that is being set?
[06:02] <Zallik> ziroday, thats why i want to use X to view it
[06:02] <HammerHead66> sound
[06:02] <Zallik> like lauching programs with X on my box
[06:02] <ziroday> Zallik: X to view what?
[06:02] <Zallik> i.e konqueror
[06:03] <ziroday> Zallik: it doesn't work like that. I strongly recommend a reinstall. Plus you won't get any x forwarding anyway unless you ssh in with ssh -X
[06:03] <p-f> Whenever I suspend to ram, my usb external hard drive's device, /dev/sdb1 becomes invalid and I have to unplug/replug it in for it to work properly. Why, and how can I fix it?
[06:03] <btw0rm> so how can i change the way ubuntu boots up since i don't like the ubuntu 3 sided circle?
[06:03] <TomH1973> ok
[06:03] <Zallik> oo ok...
[06:03] <doseryder> thanks, I'll make my purchase
[06:03] <Flannel> !usplash | btw0rm
[06:04] <Zallik> hmm... i think i need to ask my resedent Linux guru at work
[06:04] <Zallik> thanks
[06:07] <HammerHead66> TomH: you find it?
[06:07] <addisson> HammerHead66: if Tom can achieve sound but it's choppy, he could remove PulseAudio and run sound straight through ALSA, you think?
[06:07] <rashed2020> How do I remove a symbolic link?
[06:07] <HammerHead66> probably should work
[06:08] <innnit> how can I find out which process is using an interface, and what ports?
[06:08] <innnit> there is activity on one interface and I don't know why
[06:09] <HammerHead66> ﻿innnit: setup a firewall and white list all traffic
[06:09] <TomH1973> hammer You still here
[06:09] <HammerHead66> then open only the ports you need
[06:09] <HammerHead66> TomH yea
[06:10] <innnit> HammerHead66: can you recommend a firewall, I never really got involved with them, although I understand ports etc
[06:10] <HammerHead66> Firestarter is really good and easy to use
[06:10] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:11] <addisson> Firestarer excellent
[06:11] <huwenfeng> oh, i deleted the "splash" in /boot/grub/menu.lst file, and i add vgs=792, after i enter "startx" to start the X, everything's OK, except that the Desktop Icons are gone. nothing's on the desktop, not even the background,
[06:11] <silv3r_m00n> on the gnome desktop how can I make the icons show only 2 lines of caption instead of whole caption ?
[06:11] <TomH1973> Ok Hamer was I supose to do the test
[06:12] <HammerHead66> TomH yea see what it sounds like
[06:12] <HammerHead66> try to change it if it sounds bad and see if it makes it better ok
[06:14] <TomH1973> Still Sounds chopy
[06:14] <HammerHead66> did you download the latest drivers for it?
[06:14] <HammerHead66> TomH
[06:17] <TomH1973> If you mean If I Have Download the lates linux or ubuntu drivers for my sound card no
[06:18] <HammerHead66> TomH I mean the lastest drivers for you sound card
[06:18] <HammerHead66> *your
[06:18] <TomH1973> When I Installed Ubuntu  I had to download 272 files
[06:19] <shabgard> Hi Dear ubuntu
[06:19] <shabgard> I have a problem at samba-ldap
[06:19] <TomH1973> Windows was working fine with this soundcard so what Gives?
[06:20] <shabgard> This problem is
[06:20] <HammerHead66> TomH but that doesn't mean that the lastest drivers for your sound card will be in it. Please go to the sound card web site and download and install the lastest drivers for the sound card
[06:21] <shabgard> at this commend : smbldap-populate
[06:21] <shabgard> get this Error:
[06:21] <TomH1973> so do I need Ubuntu driver or Linux drivers
[06:21] <shabgard> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 31.
[06:22] <sebsebseb> !sound
[06:22] <shabgard> please help me
[06:22] <sebsebseb> !samba
[06:22] <HammerHead66> TomH who made your motherboard?
[06:23] <shabgard> I 'm waiting
[06:23] <sebsebseb> TomH1973: Ubuntu is not Windows,  Ubuntu is one of many Linux distributions, and so you get  Linux drivers
[06:23] <sebsebseb> TomH1973: if you even need drivers
[06:23] <rdakin> my postfix has stopped sending emails.....  "mail" on the command line completes without error, but nothing comes through - also, a web app is reporting connection refused when trying to send via SMTP - are there postfix logs i can look at? I don't see anything happen in /var/log/mail.* when sending fails
[06:24] <shabgard> ubuntu helper....
[06:24] <shabgard> where are you?
[06:24] <lstarnes> shabgard: you do have to be patient
[06:24] <sebsebseb> !volunter |  shabgard
[06:24] <lstarnes> shabgard: please pastebin the full error
[06:24] <shabgard> OK..
[06:25] <shabgard> at This commend
[06:25] <lstarnes> shabgard: keep what you say in as few lines as possible
[06:25] <shabgard> "smbldap-populate" for config SMB and LDAP
[06:25] <shabgard> get This error
[06:26] <shabgard> Unable to open /etc/opt/IDEALX/smbldap-tools/smbldap.conf for reading !
[06:26] <shabgard> Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 31.
[06:26] <shabgard> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 31.
[06:26] <lstarnes> shabgard: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:26] <lstarnes> shabgard: paste there, then give us the link to it
[06:26] <shabgard> OK
[06:27] <TomH1973> Intel
[06:27] <TomH1973> Intel Mother board
[06:27] <sebsebseb> TomH1973: other tahn sound Ubuntu is ok so far?
[06:27] <addisson> HammerHead66: can you pm me?
[06:27] <HammerHead66> TomH ok hold on a sec ok
[06:27] <sebsebseb> TomH1973: your motherboard is fine I expect, you just need to configure your sound card in  Ubuntu a bit
[06:27] <shabgard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135211/
[06:27] <shabgard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135211/
[06:28] <HammerHead66> you can Im me at yahoo messenger screen name hollycowbatman23
[06:28] <Tapout> is there a way for ubuntu to connect to Windows XP without running 'vnc' ... like, remote desktop
[06:28] <sebsebseb> !rdp | Tapout
[06:29] <eqisow1> Tapout: You either have to use VNC or X through ssh, as far as I know
[06:29] <Tapout> !rdp
[06:29] <sebsebseb> Tapout: pretty sure there is a  RDP  client  for Ubuntu
[06:29] <sebsebseb> Tapout: however what's wrong with VNC?
[06:29] <TomH1973> Whell I have to push the power buton to shut down the computer it hangs when you shutdown on Ubuntu
[06:29] <nickolas> does XNA studio work with monodevelop? is there an xna version for mono?
[06:29] <shabgard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135211/
[06:29] <lstarnes> shabgard: we saw, you already pasted it
[06:29] <sebsebseb> !flood |  shabgard
[06:29] <sebsebseb> lol
[06:29] <sebsebseb> that didn't quite work out for me :D
[06:29] <kriyas13> how to signin to root user using terminal?
[06:30] <lstarnes> shabgard: make sure /etc/opt/IDEALX/smbldap-tools/smbldap.conf exists
[06:30] <lstarnes> kriyas13: why?
[06:30] <sebsebseb> !root |  kriyas13
[06:30] <sebsebseb> !noroot |  kriyas13
[06:30] <shabgard> yes..I sure
[06:30] <sebsebseb> ok the second one didn't really apply to you
[06:30] <HammerHead66> TomH : here is the web site to download the drivers ok....http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/index.htm
[06:30] <nickolas> Does XNA work with Monodevelop?
[06:31] <sebsebseb> kriyas13: yeah it's sudo this that and the other with this distro, but...
[06:31] <eqisow1> kriyas: http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-and-disable-ubuntu-root-password.html
[06:31] <TomH1973> The sound card chip is a Cs I Guess Crystal Audio sound card
[06:31] <eqisow1> kriyas: and su changes to the root account
[06:31] <sebsebseb> !noroot |  eqisow1
[06:31] <shabgard> sorry ..at This line where is IDEALX?
[06:31] <sebsebseb> kriyas13: you don't need a root password, you just use su
[06:31] <TomH1973>  but hey it is 12 31 here in Utah and I have to get some Sleep
[06:31] <dr_willis> err. sudo. not su
[06:31] <eqisow1> yeah, I saw it. I disagree
[06:31] <lstarnes> shabgard: IDEALX is IDEALX
[06:32] <sebsebseb> kriyas13: however using  su  can be bad as well if your not careful
[06:32] <shabgard> OH...!! NO...THIS address not exist
[06:32] <kriyas13> already i use sudo -s, but now it doesn't work it show this message  sudo: must be setuid root
[06:33] <sebsebseb> kriyas13: ,but you don't need a password on the actsaul root account,  if you do and lose both passwords,  you could have right problems later on.    if you lose password for both accounts
[06:33] <dr_willis> kriyas13:  then you some how got the permissions messed up.
[06:33] <bunjee> what can I use to burn an avi file?
[06:33] <sebsebseb> kriyas13: and the other day I had a weird issue where my password seemed to have gotton reset, no idea why, but since I hadn't  set a  root password on that account,  I was able to reset my password in recovery mode
[06:33] <shabgard> How do i create that?
[06:33] <dr_willis> bunjee:  you can CONVERT an avi file to  a 'dvd video format' if you want to make a dvd video disk from it.
[06:34] <lstarnes> kriyas13: reboot into recovery mode and run this command after logging in as root: chmod 4755 /usr/bin/sudo
[06:34] <dr_willis> bunjee:  i use 'devede' for that.
[06:34] <TomH1973> Hammer I Am Going to Sleep But I will Be back online tomarow like sunday afternoon
[06:34] <sebsebseb> !ops
[06:34] <eqisow1> bunjee: nautilus's built in burner or Brasero will work fine, unless you need to convert to DVD format?
[06:34] <sebsebseb> maybe not really an emergency
[06:34] <sebsebseb> ,but your giving bad advice I think
[06:34] <shabgard> How do i that address?
[06:35] <sebsebseb> telling people to use the root account!
[06:35] <kriyas13> lstarnes: ok, i do that and comeback
[06:35] <shabgard> How do i create that address?
[06:35] <eqisow1> sebsebseb: I'm not telling anybody to use the root account, I'm answering a direct question.
[06:36] <HammerHead66> TomH are you still here?
[06:36] <addisson> HammerHead66: I think he went to bed!
[06:37] <bunjee> I've never used devede - does it convert avi to iso?
[06:37] <watchtea> Hello all
[06:38] <dr_willis> bunjee:  it takes video files and makes a dvd-video-iso file from them
[06:38] <HammerHead66> ﻿addisson: hopefully I can help him on another day
[06:38] <dr_willis> bunjee:  the way you phrased it is not correct. :)    it convertes video to proper dvd-video format
[06:38] <slimjim> hey  i am getting ready to put Ubuntu on my Linux box, I already have dream linux on there, so I just need to place a / partion correct, i can share the swap and /home partion with dreamlinux and what about the boot loader
[06:38] <dr_willis> bunjee:  complete with a menu, and other features
[06:38] <addisson> HammerHead66: I think he'll be back sunday afternoon.
[06:39] <eqisow1> slimjim: you can share the home partition as long as the home directories are different. sharing a home directory can cause problems
[06:39] <sebsebseb> slimjim: yep
[06:39] <slimjim> but do i want to install ubuntu boot loader also since i already have a loader in the MBR
[06:39] <bunjee> Ok, I've got something going here that reads "converting files from title 1" I picked my home folder instead of a dvd - correct?
[06:39] <HammerHead66> ﻿addisson: ok I'll keep my eye out for him
[06:39] <sebsebseb> slimjim: which loader inthe MBR?
[06:40] <eqisow1> slimjim: either boot loader will work
[06:40] <sebsebseb> slimjim: and Ubuntu's Grub will probably detect your other distro as well
[06:40] <dr_willis> bunjee:  i would suggest going to the DeVeDe homepage and reading the docs. Its not too hard to use.
[06:40] <bunjee> ok thanx
[06:40] <slimjim> DL is already in the MBR now on the Ubuntu install last step is asking do  want to install boot loader
[06:40] <slimjim> and it if do then i can pick Hd0 or /dev/sda and so on
[06:40] <eqisow1> slimjim: that would be the easiest thing, yes
[06:41] <slimjim> and it will just add to the loader that is already there then
[06:41] <addisson> HammerHead66: Ought to have a dedicated channel for sound probs for new folks
[06:41] <slimjim> so i wont loose my dl loader and wil be able to choose between the two
[06:41] <addisson> They're some of the most common probs
[06:41] <shabgard> Sorry ..How create  i smbldap.conf?
[06:41] <HammerHead66> ﻿addisson: that would help a lot of people
[06:41] <eqisow1> slimjim: it should recognize it, yes. if not you can fix it pretty easily
[06:42] <shabgard> please help
[06:43] <slimjim> ok thanks eq i am going to let it load then and check it out..cause i am also gona load another distro on that box it is two Hdd one 80gg and the other 120 the 80 is my test drive at the moment it will have DL and ubuntu, havent decied what other distros i want to taste. been a while since i was in linux
[06:43] <HammerHead66> Sorry ﻿shabgard I don't know how to
[06:43] <slimjim> might look at the new gentoo or slackware.
[06:43] <shabgard> :(((
[06:43] <slimjim> all the distros have changed since i last looked
[06:43] <eqisow1> slimjim: if your looking for a distro like those, I suggest Arch
[06:43] <cristi_> any problems?PM me!
[06:43] <shabgard> what do i do?
[06:44] <eqisow1> slimjim: my favorite 'power user' distro, by far
[06:44] <slimjim> well i got dream for Xfce ubuntu for GNOME so i was gona look at a KDE and possiable a Fluxbox
[06:44] <shabgard> please give me a link for Help..
[06:44] <HammerHead66> ok brb
[06:44] <slimjim> but  i will look at Arch also
[06:44] <eqisow1> kdemod for arch happens to be one of the best kde implementations out there right now
[06:44] <slimjim> nothing wrong with tasting them all
[06:44] <slimjim> thanks  will look into it
[06:44] <lstarnes> shabgard: have you read the documentation for smbldap-populate ?
[06:44] <slimjim> right now i am dl FC10 for my flash card. for my lappy
[06:45] <slimjim> gona boot of it with a program i found to turn any thumb or flash drive into a bootable as long as your bios supports it
[06:45] <shabgard> yes ..but I can't ...
[06:45] <HammerHead66> try this out ﻿shabgard http://search.ubuntu.com/results2.html?cx=009650792990864903260%3A-lsdjshi1tu&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=smbldap.conf&sa=Search#1102
[06:45] <dr_willis> slimjim:  you mean 'unetbootin'
[06:45] <slimjim> i also have DL on a small partion on my lappy for when i dont want to mess with vi$ta
[06:45] <lstarnes> shabgard: does that explain how to set up a config file for smbldap?
[06:45] <shabgard> thanks for this
[06:45] <eqisow1> slimjim: which should be always :p
[06:46] <HammerHead66> np
[06:46] <HammerHead66> make sure to bookmark it ok
[06:47] <slimjim> eq can you help me fig out another issue i ihave a WD element 1tb ext SATA drive via USB sometime my dreamlinux has a hard time finding it, not sure what Ubuntu is ging to do. any idea
[06:47] <lstarnes> shabgard: copy /usr/share/doc/smbldap-tools/examples/smbldap.conf.gz to your home directory, run "ungzip  smbldap.conf.gz", edit smbldap.conf and set it up, then move it to /etc/opt/IDEALX/smbldap-tools/smbldap.conf for reading
[06:47] <shabgard> I do base on this link---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAP-SambaPDC-OrgInfo-Posix
[06:47] <lstarnes> shabgard: I do not know how smbldap.conf should be set up so don't ask me about setting it up
[06:47] <eqisow1> slimjim: I'm not very familiar with dream, but it *should* be seen as a mass storage device. If you want it to automount, you'll probably need a fstab entry
[06:47] <slimjim> EQ yes it would be but i am havin issue with my bootup on my lappy, if i shut down it will auto restart and then beep loud like a sticky key but can not find one sticking. I know the window boot manager was screwed up and i have yet to find a way to fix it
[06:48] <slimjim> ok i will look in the fstab configuration and most likly auto mount it that way
[06:48] <lstarnes> shabgard: if you follow the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAP-SambaPDC-OrgInfo-Posix correctly it should work
[06:49] <slimjim> so eq can you tell me some of the new changes to the new disto of ubuntu. anything in there that will allow me to backup my dvd movies to my HDD =)~ heheheh
[06:49] <shabgard> I have check this ...very tanks for help you
[06:49] <eqisow1> slimjim: of course. do you want full iso backups or xvid backups?
[06:50] <lstarnes> shabgard: use "thank you very much for your help" instead of "very tanks for help you"
[06:50] <slimjim> xvid...so i can slim em down and thor them on my tb to travel with my lappy
[06:50] <slimjim> i work for contract copmany in the mid east and my tower dont travel to well =)
[06:50] <eqisow1> slim: check out acidrip
[06:50] <slimjim> not much american tv other there so =) you know
[06:50] <slimjim> gota have the movies
[06:50] <eqisow1> gotcha
[06:51] <slimjim> thanks when it is done loadig i will let it update and then get that sourcecode
[06:51] <eqisow1> slimjim: no need, there's a binary in the repos
[06:51] <slimjim> nice
[06:51] <slimjim> even beter
[06:51] <slimjim> so they have done alot with the binary on this one then i remember when i tested out i htink it was 5 there was alot of stuff still being added
[06:52] <slimjim> i bet tho they still have not added back LIBDVDCSS to the repo...that is ok i have it on my other drive =)
[06:53] <slimjim> stupid us and there stupid copy right crap...
[06:53] <HammerHead66> lol
[06:53] <slimjim> tnx eq been a real big help.....
[06:53] <slimjim> for real hhead everything should be opensource
[06:54] <slimjim> why put limits on what one can do when stupid M$ just makes a raping killing on the comglomert counsumer
[06:54] <slimjim> vista has not even been out what 3 years now and they are already release beta m$ w$ 7
[06:55] <slimjim> <----- is venting
[06:56] <eqisow1> lol, sorry slim. was sammich time. decss is actually there too
[06:56] <eqisow1> slim: it's not quite debian, but there's a huge number of binary packages for ubuntu now
[06:57] <slimjim> nice..how is debian lookin gthese day DL is made off of stable lenny (5)
[06:57] <slimjim> course using Xfce for the Desktop evnirment
[06:57] <eqisow1> slimjim: debian is debian. plodding along as always
[06:57] <slimjim> huh....what bout FreeBSD they still making new distra
[06:58] <eqisow1> libdvdread4 is the dvd library now
[06:58] <eqisow1> slim: haven't dabbled much in the bsd's myself
[06:58] <slimjim> nice.....it is good to see them all starting to come up and make things more accesable.
[06:59] <slimjim> eq what ll you dable in. I started in RH long time ago. then merged to solaris, and then back to RH then tok a break and came back in with openSUSE and Ubuntu, and made my way back int Dream and FC
[06:59] <eqisow1> slimjim: wait til you see the automatic codec installation, add/remove programs, etc
[06:59] <slimjim> and i run it all on an older AMD Socket A mobo and box
[07:00] <slimjim> 256mb of old DDR ram too =)
[07:00] <slimjim> but the board supports RAID 133 haha old school
[07:00] <slimjim> 82%
[07:00] <eqisow1> slimjim: mostly Arch and Ubuntu at the moment, but I've been lots of places. I still have RPM nightmares.
[07:00] <DavidProck1981> http://www.cellstores.com/autocontent.aspx?pageid=1907&referringdomain=fortune&Eid=5526541
[07:00] <DavidProck1981> And if you deside to call you will need to give them my Rep. ID # 5526541
[07:01] <slimjim> hahahah is RH still doing RPM
[07:01] <slimjim> i thkn Suse is using yast still
[07:01] <Flannel> !offtopic
[07:01] <eqisow1> slimjim: 256 might hurt with a full blown Gnome/KDE desktop now a days :x (and , Suse and redhat are both RPM)
[07:01] <slimjim> sorry Flannel, k eq you mind if i send you PM with my email
[07:02] <Flannel> slimjim: No worries.  You can always take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:03] <mouseclon1> hello everyone .. I have a really strange problem with AdobeAir.
[07:05] <mouseclon1> It seems that some have been able to get AdobeAir to work but I'm not sure at what point.  I seem to have it installed , but the error I'm getting, some say that something is not loading correctly.. anyone know how to get around Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/filesystems/libgio.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[07:05] <mouseclon1> Segmentation fault
[07:05] <slimjim> <---wishes he could help
[07:06] <Aokaado> got this problem on my laptop the last time i got 8.10 running, if i use volume buttons (just click once) the computer ends in an endless loop thinking i'm hogging the button (if i click the other one it thinks i'm holding that one down), most of the os is crashed but will fix after i relogg/reboot. worked last time i had ubuntu 8.10 and previous ubuntus (and currently in windows)
[07:06] <HammerHead66> ﻿mouseclon1: it's 64 bit right?
[07:08] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: yes.. sorry .. a clean install of Ubuntu 64bit 8.04
[07:08] <scorp_> anybody awake that can assist me with an x server problem?
[07:08] <mouseclon1> Air is install.. I get that error when I try to install an app.
[07:08] <slimjim> 99% install 8.10 soon i wll get to see it for the first time
[07:08] <HammerHead66> ﻿mouseclon1: and ur trying to install adobe flash and getting an error?
[07:10] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66:  I installed Adobe Air (not flash). I'm getting that error when I go to launch the installer
[07:10] <btw0rm> why doesn't tar -cvf test.txt work with me?
[07:11] <HammerHead66> ﻿mouseclon1: 1 sec ok
[07:11] <btw0rm> it says tar cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
[07:12] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1: where did you get the program from?
[07:12] <igi> ?
[07:12] <dparker> btw0rm - are you trying to extract or create that tar file?
[07:12] <igi> nick /igi-
[07:13] <igi> create
[07:13] <dparker> you ned to specify some stuff to add to the archive
[07:13] <dparker> e.g. tar -cvzf my.tgz /home/*
[07:13] <ksbalaji> longlive ubuntu. is there any 9.xx LTS?
[07:13] <mshade> igi: try naming an archive
[07:13] <wrektjet> he i really need to find my dns id
[07:13] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: I get the error even if I do not select a program.  If I start the Adobe Air installer, and then cancel it.  I get the error with out the seg fault
[07:13] <ksbalaji> onglive ubuntu. is there any 9.xx LTS?  I use 8.04 Hardy LTS
[07:14] <sixofour_> in kubuntu is there an app that can see my joysticks and configure them?..they are usb
[07:14] <Flannel> ksbalaji: No.  The next scheduled LTS will be 10.04
[07:14] <sixofour_> !joystick
[07:14] <igi> iam trying to add the test.txt into a tarball
[07:14] <HammerHead66> ﻿mouseclon1: ok I'm download it now to check it out
[07:14] <mshade> igi: into a new tarball?
[07:14] <igi> yes
[07:14] <wrektjet> does anyone know how to find a dns server addie?
[07:14] <mshade> tar -czf tarball.tar.gz test.txt
[07:14] <mouseclon1> hammerHead66: Adobe has instructions on install http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb408084
[07:14] <HammerHead66> ﻿mouseclon1:ty
[07:14] <ksbalaji> Flannel: thanks. When will that be please (10.04)
[07:15] <bman> wrektjet, opendns.com
[07:15] <lstarnes> ksbalaji: 4th month of 2010
[07:15] <Flannel> ksbalaji: Releases are year.month, so April of 2010
[07:15] <lstarnes> ksbalaji: so probably around mid-April 2010
[07:15] <quibbler> mouseclon1: what air app are you trying to install
[07:15] <wrektjet> isnt there a terminal command that can tell me current settings>
[07:16] <bman> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[07:16] <lstarnes> wrektjet: /etc/resolv.conf
[07:16] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: also better on Ubunt Forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=941093.  Adobe left a ln out of their install directions
[07:16] <igi> mshade: thanks it works
[07:16] <HammerHead66> ﻿mouseclon1: did you get this probelm?   /tmp/AdobeAIRSDK.tbz2 could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences.
[07:16] <ksbalaji> lstarnes: ,Flannel that is good info. I would not upgrade from 8.04 till then. I would happly update till then.
[07:16] <mouseclon1> quibbler: really i'm trying to get Twirl to install.. but I have triez Spaz as well
[07:16] <fukid> hi... i have just updated to 9.04 alpha, but i can't start the NIVDIA driver . my Driver is 180.37 and my graphic card is 9800GT , any suggestion?
[07:17] <IntuitiveNipple> HammerHead66: That's a bug in xulrunner to do with mime-type handling... do a Save As... instead
[07:17] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: no i didn't
[07:17] <lstarnes> ksbalaji: usually non-LTS releases work well after being out for a couple months
[07:17] <Flannel> fukid: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support
[07:17] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: had trouble until I got all of the 32bit libs installed
[07:17] <Flannel> lstarnes, ksbalaji: there's absolutely nothing wrong with sticking to the LTS path
[07:17] <fukid> thanks ^^
[07:18] <hiiptihop_> I have a new DellStdio XPS laptop with 4gb ram, happily seen by bios and memtest, however ubuntu only report 4gb, can someone please give me pointer as to how to resolve this
[07:18] <Waouh> hi
[07:18] <bman> burn  it
[07:18] <bman> sup waoh
[07:18] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: It has 4GB and Ubuntu see's 4GB ... don'y you mean Ubuntu see's 3GB ?
[07:19] <bman> see moar
[07:19] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, indeed that is what I meant to say
[07:19] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: OK, are you using a 32-bit version of Ubuntu?
[07:19] <bman> 64!
[07:19] <wrektjet> thnx guys
[07:19] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66:  also libadobecertstore.so gave the trouble until I did what adobe's direction 14 says.. I'm wondering if I can just do the same for the other file that is having trouble
[07:19] <hiiptihop_> yes I believe so, how do I confirm ?
[07:19] <wrektjet> i still havent solved my isues but its  astart
[07:19] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: uname -a
[07:20] <ksbalaji> Friends, earlier I had non-LTS. I used to worry about non working applications. Now after LTS, I am preoccupied only with my data and not the non-working applications!
[07:20] <tavo> excuse me, how do I know if my machine has installed ubuntu 32 or ubuntu 64???
[07:20] <lstarnes> tavo: uname -m
[07:20] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, "2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux"
[07:20] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: You'll need the 64-bit version (amd64) to make use of the memory since the space from 3GB to 4GB is used by PCI IO/MEM devices and can't be used by RAM.
[07:21] <tavo> :D
[07:21] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Yes, that's 32-bit - "i686"
[07:21] <lstarnes> ksbalaji: the non-LTS releases still get regular updates, although only for 18 months
[07:21] <tavo> thanks
[07:21] <Waouh> hi eveyone,
[07:21] <HammerHead66> ﻿mouseclon1: sorry on mine I have no problems so far
[07:21] <lstarnes> tavo: x86 = 32 bit, x96_64 = 64 bit
[07:21] <lstarnes> *x86_64
[07:21] <tavo> :D
[07:21] <ksbalaji> lstarnes: thanks. for the 18 months info.
[07:21] <tavo> I've 32 bit
[07:21] <eqisow1> tavo: uname -a
[07:21] <bman> !want x96
[07:21] <tavo> many thanks lstarnes :D
[07:22] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, ohh bugger.. ... how do I confirm I havee 64bit cpu's ?
[07:22] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: ok thx
[07:22] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, which is your processor? how many ram do you have?
[07:22] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:22] <tavo> How can I install a 64 bit ubuntu'???
[07:22] <addisson> mouseclon1: you have 64bit?
[07:23] <lstarnes> tavo: download the amd64 version of ubuntu and install that
[07:23] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: look for the line: address sizes
[07:23] <wolter_> tavo, download 64bit ubuntu...
[07:23] <tavo> :O
[07:23] <mouseclon1> addisson: yes
[07:23] <tavo> I thought I could install it by using synaptic
[07:23] <Waouh> how can I change the Hostname of my laptop ?
[07:23] <tavo> thanks lstarnes I'm downloading 64bit ubuntu
[07:23] <wolter_> tavo, nah...
[07:23] <Waouh> any idea, about how can I change the Hostname of my laptop ?
[07:23] <lstarnes> tavo: synaptic will only install 32-bit packages if you are using 32-bit ubuntu
[07:24] <tavo> xD
[07:24] <IntuitiveNipple> tavo: It isn't possible to update from a 32-bit installation to 64-bit... it needs a fresh install of all the executable binaries and system libraries
[07:24] <tavo> hey
[07:24] <lstarnes> !hostname | Waouh
[07:24] <HammerHead66> ﻿mouseclon1: ok I see why your having problems
[07:24] <tavo> what a hostname is?
[07:24] <tavo> and what about localhost?
[07:24] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: what did I do wrong?
[07:24] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, ok, can't see if 32 or 64 but it is model Intel T9550... just looking that up
[07:24] <Waouh> a hostname is the name of the computer
[07:24] <lstarnes> tavo: localhost is the default hostname of 127.0.0.1, which points back to your own computer
[07:25] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, is that the one that comes with the dell xps?
[07:25] <tavo> :O
[07:25] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Yes, that's a Core 2 Duo
[07:25] <hiiptihop_> woltter, yes
[07:25] <tavo> and what is that for?
[07:25] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, nice, i have that machine too =D
[07:25] <lstarnes> tavo: what is what for?
[07:25] <ganesh> which is the best player to play HD movies?
[07:25] <tavo> what is localhost
[07:25] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, and yes ,its 64bit
[07:25] <wolter_> !tab | hiiptihop_
[07:26] <Waouh> for example my current Hostname is Toto and I want change it to Titi
[07:26] <wolter_> tavo, the local host - your host; your computer.
[07:26] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, crap, I just grabbed an intrepid cd I had lying about and did not even think about it
[07:26] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: :)
[07:26] <lstarnes> Waouh: I told ubottu to send you instructions about it
[07:26] <hiiptihop_> wolter, yes very nice machine ... so I'm going to have trash this install and start again ?
[07:27] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[07:27] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, you could do that...
[07:27] <silv3r_m00n> the docs that are installed from synaptic ... how do I read them
[07:27] <lstarnes> silv3r_m00n: look in /usr/share/docs
[07:27] <tavo> thanks
[07:27] <lstarnes> silv3r_m00n: actually, /usr/share/doc
[07:27] <IntuitiveNipple> Waouh: sudo sed -i '/Toto/ s/Toto/Titi/g' /etc/hostname
[07:27] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, if it's a new install I would do that..
[07:27] <melik> how can i log a user out of my system?>
[07:27] <silv3r_m00n> lstarnes: that I can see ... but isn't there some kind of interface to read the docs folder section wise
[07:28] <dan_> hello can anyone help me connect my video camera to my usb - i am using ubuntu intrepid thanks
[07:28] <bony> hi i was trying to setup my modem using wine for accessing a fax software called winfax. when i run the setup of adding a modem i am not able see any device in the "Modems and Communications Devices Properties" window but when i click "Test Com Ports..." the program starts to scan for the modem and it finds the modem in COM1. When i say add i am not able to add the modem can any one tell me on how to add the modem?
[07:28] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, wolter_, I obviously want to make the most of my new machine. Is there a downside to going full 64bit ?
[07:28] <lstarnes> silv3r_m00n: I'm not sure
[07:28] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: I've been running 64-bit for 2 years ona  similar CPU - no problems so far.
[07:28] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, few software doesn't work right, like flash and java (they say, but i do ok with those)
[07:28] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, also, some printer drivers, like canon ip1800, don't work on 64bit
[07:29] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, the thing is, your computer will be faster on 64bit.
[07:29] <IntuitiveNipple> The only problems are with proprietary software mostly, that doesn't get compiled for 64-bit
[07:29] <sixofour> wtf
[07:29] <sixofour> i restarted my kubuntu install..and gnome laoded after the KDe loginn screen?
[07:30] <sixofour> How did this happen?
[07:30] <IntuitiveNipple> sixofour: Gremlins?
[07:30] <lstarnes> sixofour: did you install ubuntu-desktop?
[07:30] <sixofour> i don't know wtf is up :(
[07:30] <sixofour> kubuntu
[07:30] <TonyMontana> is there a room for Desktop mechanical questions?
[07:30] <lstarnes> sixofour: or gnome?
[07:30] <hiiptihop_> wolter_, IntuitiveNipple , well currently I'm developing using flex. so far on Windows but using Ubuntu in VirtualBox as host... now with new machine I wwant to reverse that...and ultimately hopefully do development in native ubuntu
[07:30] <sixofour> i don't even have gnome
[07:30] <sixofour> well, thought i didn't
[07:31] <sixofour> ive rebooted fine many times
[07:31] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Sounds good.. you should be able to use Windows in either VirtualBox or the native Linux virtual machine, KVM
[07:31] <dan_> hello can anyone help me connect my digital camera?
[07:31] <TonyMontana> Is there a room for desktop mechanical questions???
[07:31] <lstarnes> TonyMontana: like what?
[07:31] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, compiling is much faster on 64bit
[07:31] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Also, I *think* wine can support flex now... you'd need to check on that though, so you could potentially run it directly on Linux
[07:31] <sixofour> let me reboot properly
[07:31] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, yes, been wrestling trying tto get my existing WindowsXP off old laptop and virtualized
[07:32] <TonyMontana> lstarnes: like my PC wont turn on all the way when I press the power button
[07:32] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: yeah, did you create a new Hardware Profile with generic hardware first? That is always a useful step
[07:32] <lstarnes> TonyMontana: what happens when you try to start it?
[07:32] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, using the VMWare Converter to grab the physical install and turn it into a vm, and then migrate that across to a virtualBox vm
[07:32] <ganesh>  which is the best player to play HD movies in ubuntu?
[07:32] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: ouch :)
[07:33] <TonyMontana> It will light up like it's about to boot up but then it shuts back down, and the second time I press it it will boot up all the way
[07:33] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, is that the wrong way to go ?
[07:33] <lstarnes> TonyMontana: try asking in ##hardware
[07:33] <TonyMontana> thanks
[07:33] <IntuitiveNipple> ganesh: I think you need the libraries... most players rely on them. libx264 and aac I *think*
[07:33] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: I don't think there's a 'wrong' way... just some routes are more scenic than others :)
[07:33] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, just want to grab my curretn winXP develop environment etc and just run, not go through all the win crap, install everything again
[07:34] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, :-)
[07:34] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Yeah... I had success with the generic Hardware Profile approach.
[07:34] <TonyMontana> that place is a Ghost town I need somewhere that's populater
[07:34] <TonyMontana> *populated
[07:34] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, pointer to what you suggest ? and then even with a new profile, how do you transfer it into a virtualized env ?
[07:34] <lstarnes> TonyMontana: that is the official channel for asking hardware questions on this network
[07:35] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, did you need to rreactiviate too ?
[07:35] <TonyMontana> everyone's asleep there
[07:35] <lstarnes> TonyMontana: this channel is just for ubuntu-related questions
[07:35] <Greencoat421> Can someone help me set up an ethernet bridge?
[07:35] <TonyMontana> I know
[07:35] <dparker> Greencoat421 - have you looked at brctl?
[07:36] <sixofour> yeah wtf
[07:36] <sixofour> regular ubuntu loads after i log in to KDE
[07:36] <sixofour> my pc feels like a mac now :(
[07:36] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Once you've got a generic hardware profile I'd shrink the Windows file-system to take up as little space as possible, then do a raw copy into a file that would then be the image for the virtualisation tool. I use KVM/QEMU so it'd get compressed and converted to a QCOW2 image-type.
[07:36] <Greencoat421> I have my ubuntu desktop connected to a wireless network, I have my xbox 360 connected to my Ubuntu Desktop, but I'm having trouble with firestarter
[07:36] <Greencoat421> dparker no what is it?
[07:36] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: I don't recall having to, no
[07:37] <dparker> Greencoat421: it is the thing you'll use to set up bridging in the kernel
[07:37] <dparker> if you don't have it, install it and read the man page
[07:37] <dparker> it should be pretty clear from the man page
[07:37] <Greencoat421> do I need to mess with the kernel if all I'm doing is sharing an internet connection
[07:37] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, sounds good, have link to how to do raw copy ?
[07:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Greencoat421: All you should need is to configure routing correctly, and possibly DNS/DHCP with something like dnsmasq
[07:38] <dparker> well - hehe - ultimately you'll be changing kernel params, but you're doing it w/ brctl - it's not like you're re-building the kernel or anything
[07:38] <Greencoat421> Basically the xbox keeps saying it can't get an ip adress
[07:38] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, also, any reason for KVM vs VirtualBox ?
[07:38] <Greencoat421> I have dnsmasq installed and I believe setup correctly
[07:38] <mefached> !sound
[07:38] <dparker> yeah - so disable your firewall stuff first, get it working, then worry about securing it Greencoat421
[07:38] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: I don't, sorry. I did it ages ago and worked it out myself since the commands are pretty basic (when you're a Linux geek!)
[07:39] <Greencoat421> ok so I get this straight:
[07:39] <Omni> Hi! anybody here know about fully ubuntuing a macbook?
[07:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Greencoat421: you may need to enable IP Forwarding on the interface(s)
[07:39] <Greencoat421> turn off firestarter, reconfigure dnsmasq and trry to connect?
[07:40] <Greencoat421> I know its a bit to ask, but could someone run me what I would do from the begining from plugging the cat 5 into the coputer?
[07:40] <dparker> Greencoat421 - just as a general rule - when you're setting up something non-trivial or unfamilliar w/ networking, best to disable firewalling 'til you get it working
[07:40] <dparker> then secure it after.
[07:40] <dparker> that way you limit the variables you're working with
[07:40] <Greencoat421> Well the first thread I found siad to use firestarter to share the connection
[07:40] <dparker> you said initially that you want to do a bridge - is that correct?
[07:40] <Greencoat421> yes
[07:40] <dparker> not a router?
[07:40] <Greencoat421> I'm not worried about the firewall
[07:41] <Greencoat421> right, this is my set up
[07:41] <dparker> ok - then get brctl and read that man page
[07:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Greencoat421: I've got a wiki article for a similar scenario... setting up to support multiple virtual machines... you may find it helpful. http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/KvmQemuEasyRoutedNetwork
[07:41] <dparker> bridging is pretty simple
[07:41] <Greencoat421> dsl--> wireless router----> Ubuntu Desktop<--->xbox 360
[07:41] <dparker> and you want the xbox to dhcp off that wireless router right?
[07:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Greencoat421: think of the VMs in the wiki article as the interfaces used to connect to the xbox
[07:42] <dparker> or do you want it to dhcp off the ubuntu box?
[07:42] <IntuitiveNipple> dparker: I think off the Ubuntu PC - he said he had dnsmasq installed
[07:42] <Greencoat421> I would prefer it to just dhcp so I have to configure as little as possible
[07:42] <Greencoat421> I do have dnsmasq installed
[07:42] <dparker> ok - then Greencoat421 you're making a router, not a bridge
[07:42] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, thanks for pointers and assist. time to download fresh 64bit ubuntu then
[07:43] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: good luck with that!
[07:43] <dparker> if you're going to use dnsmasq on the ubuntu box, it's kind of implied that you're using the ubuntu box as a gateway of some sort
[07:43] <Greencoat421> all I want to do is be able to connect to xbox live through my ubuntu desktop which is connected wirelessly
[07:43] <Greencoat421> ok
[07:44] <dparker> yeah - really - I'd look at bridging
[07:44] <dparker> you would not need dnsmasq in that case
[07:44] <zeno_> how do you add a directory to places?
[07:44] <dparker> just bridge the interfaces together
[07:44] <Greencoat421> which is the simplest way to go about it
[07:44] <dparker> get brctl and read that - it explains a lot
[07:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Does network manager handle a bridge on a wlan interface?
[07:44] <Greencoat421> I need simple more than solid
[07:45] <dparker> IntuitiveNipple - /me has always done it by hand, so don't know
[07:45] <Greencoat421> ok what the package for brctl
[07:45] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm just thinking bridging could leave Greencoat421 in a more confused situation :)
[07:45] <dparker> Greencoat421: a cool thing about Ubuntu
[07:45] <dan> hello can anyone help me connect my usb camera?
[07:45] <dparker> if you just type "brctl" in an attempt to run it, ubuntu will tell you want you need to install
[07:45] <dparker> pretty neat
[07:46] <dparker> (and you may already have it)
[07:46] <Greencoat421> well when I typed brctl it gave me a list of commands
[07:46] <dparker> ok - you have it then
[07:46] <dparker> just man brctl and read up
[07:47] <delfick> hello, I'm trying to svn commit to a computer of mine (in a different physical location) and I've come to the conclusion that if I turn on the firewall on the other computer, the commit will work, otherwise it doesn't do anything. However I'm unsure which port to unblock in the firewall. Does anyone know how I'd go about finding out which port is denying my svn commits??
[07:47] <dparker> the jist of it is that you'll take e.g. eth0 and wlan0 and make br0 and rout everything through that from your workstation's perspective
[07:47] <sixofour> does anyone know kubuntu and can come talk in #kubuntu?
[07:48]  * dparker in fact runs kubuntu
[07:48] <Greencoat421> I think I feel a headache comming on
[07:48] <dparker> is it really a kde question?
[07:49] <sixofour> yes
[07:49] <sixofour> kde fails to load and i have to use gnome
[07:51] <dparker> sixofour - sorry - I haven't dug into the particulars in kubuntu - it's always just worked for me.  You might check ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:51] <dan> hello can anyone help me connect my usb camera?
[07:52] <dparker> dan - do you want it to look like a disk drive when you plug it in?
[07:52] <dparker> or is this a webcam?
[07:52] <Greencoat421> ok dpraker Ive added eth0 and ra0(my wlan) to my bridge br0
[07:52] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1: I just trying to help out man... that program is new to me. And to top it off I can't get passed number 3 in the install because it said it doesn't have the file. I can't help that.
[07:52] <dan> dparker the first one please
[07:53] <dan> dparker: its a jvc handycam and i just want to get the pictures i have in it
[07:53] <dparker> dan - you need to ensure your camera is configured so that it presents itself as a USB storage device. That will be specific to your camera so you'll have to read the manual.
[07:53] <dparker> dan: once you've done that, when you plug it in, it will just work - it'll show up as a new drive.
[07:54] <dparker> probably w/ a camera icon
[07:54] <dan> dparker it doesnt show in nautilus, ive tried lsusb and it shows the hardware
[07:54] <dan> Bus 001 Device 072: ID 04f1:0008 Victor Company of Japan, Ltd GZ-MG30AA/MC500E Digital Video Camer
[07:55] <dan> but nothing in nautilus or pcmanfm
[07:55] <dparker> Greencoat421 - cool - now the deal is that you're going to do something a bit counter-intuitive the two "real" intefaces don't really need addresses.  The br0 one however does.  So you'll need to dhclient br0
[07:55] <dparker> yeah - dan - your camera very likely has a couple of USB modes - you need to read the instructions for your camera and ensure that it's set up as a usb storage device
[07:55] <general> hi
[07:56] <general> how do you get the screenshot of a window?
[07:57] <magnetron> general→ Alt+PrintScreen
[07:57] <dan> dparker thanks - i already put it to usb mode by putting the switch to usb
[07:57] <HammerHead66> ﻿general: look on the upper right hand side of keyboard just to the left of the Scroll lock button
[07:57] <general> magcius: thanks very much, but how do you do this in script?
[07:57] <general> HammerHead66: thanks ^
[07:57] <general> magnetron: ^
[07:57] <magnetron> general→ "scrot" is a command to do automated screenshots.
[07:58] <mn> Where do I get GTK+ engines?
[07:58] <Harde> Anyone with a laptop that has ATI Radeon HD3450 and is using HDMI-out? My lappy seems to be unable to output proper HDMI, I've tried it with 2 different monitors and also in windows
[07:58] <dparker> dan - k - that's about the end of my general wisdom re: cameras - if you can make it look like generic usb storage, it'll work fine. Else you'll need one of the programs that's specifically made to talk the more proprietary protocols that some cameras use.  I know they exist in the repositories, but I don't recall their names.
[07:58] <general> magnetron: thanks!
[07:59] <dan> dparker: ok thanks
[07:59] <dparker> np
[07:59] <crdlb> mn: there are several in the repositories as gtk2-engines-whatever
[08:00] <quibbler> mouseclon1: i take it you had looked here?  http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb408084
[08:00] <general> magnetron:  i want to run xvbf and open a firefox to get the screen shot. do you have any idea?
[08:00] <mn> ty crdlb, that gave me all the info i needed
[08:00] <Omni> Dooes anybody know what the best way to single boot a macbook with ubuntu would be? I'm having problems with the bootloader
[08:01] <general> i know the steps of commands to do this, but how can you make sure it takes screen shot after the web page finished loading?
[08:01] <general> magnetron: ^
[08:02] <michele> jgg
[08:03] <w1> hai
[08:03] <aksjhda> ohai
[08:03] <slag> Can someone help me with a rather simple apache question?
[08:03] <michele> sorry italy
[08:04] <dparker> slag - have you tried #apache?
[08:04] <slag> ahhhhh
[08:04] <slag> i forget the command to leave a channel dparker :-)
[08:04] <quibbler> !it | michele
[08:04] <slag> years since i played on IRC
[08:04] <dparker> hehe
[08:05] <Greencoat421> hello?
[08:06] <Greencoat421> ok dparker I need you to help me out here
[08:06] <quibbler> !welcome | Greencoat421
[08:06] <dparker> Greencoat421: sup?
[08:06] <Greencoat421> the manual was useless to me beyond setting up the br
[08:06] <Greencoat421> this is what I did
[08:06] <Greencoat421> addbr br0
[08:07] <Greencoat421> then addif etho(the xbox)
[08:07] <Greencoat421> then addif ra0(the wlan)
[08:07] <quibbler> !enter | Greencoat421
[08:07] <Greencoat421> and presto my connection stopped working alltogether
[08:07] <dparker> Greencoat421: yeah - see - things get slightly counter-intuitive at that point
[08:08] <Greencoat421> Well the manual didn't explain a thing
[08:08] <Greencoat421> just what the commands did, not how to put them together
[08:08] <dparker> it works like this: once you've bridged those interfaces together, the IP addresses on the interfaces don't matter - you should actually de-configure them so they don't have addresses of their own
[08:08] <dparker> then you dhclient br0
[08:08] <lanoxx-> which one is true? 2.8 > 2.16 or 2.8 < 2.16?
[08:09] <Aokaado> first
[08:09] <Greencoat421> Ok ok so I do what I did again, then $ dhclient bro ?
[08:09] <Greencoat421> *br0
[08:09] <dparker> right - and that should get a dhcp lease from wherever - your wireless router I  think is where you said it'll come from
[08:09] <dparker> now
[08:10] <dparker> coincidentally at that point your xbox should be able to dhcp as well
[08:10] <dparker> well - once you've set up the bridge, the xbox should be able to dhcp
[08:10] <Greencoat421> ok, anymore steps after that?
[08:10] <dparker> nope - should just work
[08:11] <Greencoat421> ok so to recap:
[08:11] <Greencoat421> addbr br0
[08:11] <Greencoat421> addif eth0
[08:11] <Greencoat421> addif ra0
[08:11] <Greencoat421> dhclient br0
[08:11] <FloodBot3> Greencoat421: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:12] <dparker> Greencoat421 yeah. I'm not sure if you *must* remove the addresses from the "real" interfaces either
[08:12] <dparker> it might be that you have to - I don't recall
[08:12] <Greencoat421> if I do have to, how do I do that
[08:12] <dparker> sec
[08:12] <skyl> anyone got a good howto for setting up a radio station, perhaps with icecast?
[08:12] <Greencoat421> ok
[08:13] <mamafish> how do i save my system changes in Live cd?
[08:13] <Aokaado> got this problem on my laptop when installing 8.10 today, if i use volume buttons (just click once) the computer ends in an endless loop thinking i'm hogging the button (if i click the other one it thinks i'm holding that one down), most of the os is crashed but will fix after i relogg/reboot. worked last time i had ubuntu 8.10 (some months ago) and previous ubuntus (and currently in windows). know of any way to fix it ?
[08:13] <dparker> Greencoat421:  ip addr del IFADDR dev STRING
[08:14] <Greencoat421> ok I'll be back if things go awry again
[08:14] <mamafish> i installed some packages and would like to retain it
[08:14] <dparker> Greencoat421: actually - do "ip addr list"  that'll tell you what ifaddr and string should be
[08:14] <slag> anyone know how to turn on RAW directory listing in apache?
[08:15] <dparker> it's the Index option for a directory or location
[08:15] <dparker> slag
[08:15] <dparker> Options Index or maybe Indexing - I forget
[08:15] <mamafish> how do i save my system changes in Live cd to a local disk for future use?
[08:15] <slag> ahhh
[08:15] <mamafish> i am now on live cd..
[08:15] <slag> okay :-)
[08:17] <dinesh_> i access internet through wi fi connection but i have noticed that the speed is reduced in ubuntu in comparison to windows is there any way to increase the speed
[08:18] <mamafish> anyone can answer my question?
[08:19] <dparker> mamafish - I don't know the answer to that.  Lots of times however the purpose of a livecd is to let you use the os w/o changing anything on the host computer.
[08:20] <mamafish> dparker: i understand just looking for the possibilities
[08:20] <dparker> mamafish - sorry - I don't have an answer
[08:20] <mamafish> that's ok
[08:22] <dparker> ﻿dinesh_ - there really are lots of variables involved in network performance - e.g. windows may have been doing some caching with a windows version of the "squid" program.
[08:23] <dinesh_> dparker: how can i increase the speed if possible
[08:23] <dparker> dinesh_ there are just, you know, lots and lots of ways to do that
[08:24] <dparker> you might look at squid
[08:24] <dparker> you might look at dnsmasq
[08:24] <dparker> those can both help a lot
[08:24] <dparker> if you're using firefox, there are add-ons that tweak firefox to make speed it up as well
[08:25] <disappearedng> Hey how do I find any files that contains kanye in my entire system?
[08:25] <Greencoat4211> ok yet more problems
[08:25] <dparker> Greencoat4211: what happened?
[08:26] <dinesh_> dparker: can you name one of those firefox addon that can speed up
[08:26] <Greencoat4211> ok the first time I did all the commands and with dhclient it froze the computer
[08:26] <dparker> dinesh_ - I think there's one called fasterfox
[08:26] <Greencoat4211> then I rebooted and when I did brctl show I had a pan0, I think this is from ndiswrapper for my wireless card
[08:26] <dparker> hunh - really?
[08:26] <Greencoat4211> yeah
[08:26] <Greencoat4211> so I tried adding etho to pan0 but no luck
[08:27] <dparker> don't know dude it should just work
[08:27] <Greencoat4211> dhclient ran through, but said no dhcpoffers
[08:27] <dparker> those ndiswrapper drivers are a bit twitchy though I think
[08:27] <Greencoat4211> well will having pan0 affect having br0
[08:27] <dparker> no
[08:28] <Greencoat4211> then I'll see if br0 freezes dhclient again
[08:28] <dparker> do you have wireless security turned on?
[08:28] <Greencoat4211> yes
[08:28] <Greencoat4211> surely there is a much simpler way of doing this
[08:29] <dparker> Greencoat4211: could be - I am an older dude and I've always used the command line stuff
[08:29] <dusan> Ahoj
[08:31] <disappearedng> can someone tell me how I can search my entire harddisk for files that contains "kanye"?
[08:31] <dparker> Greencoat4211: you know what *really* makes it easy?  Get a WRT 54GL and flash DD-WRT onto it.
[08:31] <dparker> :)
[08:31] <dparker> seriously - dd-wrt is awesome
[08:31] <eqisow1> disappearedng: there's a "search" button in nautilus
[08:32] <baddaboom> would someone know how to get window borders to work correctly in icewm?
[08:33] <disappearedng> eqisow1: that doesnt work that well i don't know why, I tried it, but I can't find anything but I know for sure that I have one song by kanye west because I can see me uploading it in mldonkey
[08:34] <dparker> disappearedng - cd / ; grep -ri kanye  *
[08:34] <dparker> that'd run for a while
[08:34] <achilles>  hello, I have a bridge interface br0, I assigned an IP address to it and it's fine, I can access the server from this IP, but once I get in (ssh), no ping to anywhere could be, any help ?
[08:34] <disappearedng> dparker thanks
[08:35] <dparker> achilles - what do you mean by "﻿once I get in (ssh), no ping to anywhere could be" ?
[08:36] <achilles> dparker, I mean, I can access my shell session, and if I ping from the shell to my pc, it doesn't ping, or any other host in the network it doesn't ping
[08:36] <achilles> dparker,  no iptables defined
[08:37] <Greencoat421> still no joy
[08:37] <dparker> Greencoat421: :( - should work
[08:37] <dparker> achilles: so you can ssh to the machine and get a shell via the ip address that's assigned to the bridge device
[08:38] <dparker> and you can interact w/ the shell
[08:38] <achilles> dparker, exactly
[08:38] <achilles> no no
[08:38] <Greencoat421> I made the bridge, added the two devices, dhclient successfully, yet still when I try to test the connection via the xbox is still fails the ip test
[08:38] <achilles> I can interact normally
[08:38] <achilles> but the server can't see any host in the LAN
[08:38] <achilles> even the PC I connect from
[08:38] <Greencoat421> the desktop internet is working fine
[08:38] <achilles> yes
[08:38] <dparker> achilles: but - you can connect to it?
[08:39] <dparker> with ssh
[08:39] <dparker> from some other node
[08:39] <dparker> ?
[08:39] <achilles> dparker, yeah !
[08:39] <dparker> well - that's definitely weird
[08:39] <achilles> dparker, I can ping it also, but the server can't ping any host
[08:39] <bobbie4> I like the ubuntu, because it likes me
[08:39] <dparker> iptables are clear on the machine from which you are ssh-ing?
[08:40] <achilles> dparker, yes totally clear
[08:40] <Greencoat421> so no other ideas dparker?
[08:40] <dparker> is this all just jacked into a dumb switch?
[08:40] <dparker> Greencoat421: sec
[08:40] <Greencoat421> ok
[08:41] <Greencoat421> ok somehow the br0 wasn't saved
[08:42] <dparker> achilles - all the nodes are just plugged into plain dumb switch?
[08:42] <achilles> dparker, yes , I can ping them from my PC
[08:43] <achilles> and they can ping that stupid server normally
[08:43] <Chowder> random question: why is it that when I install a video driver (for example) Ubuntu installs all the others along with it?
[08:44] <dparker> and for all the iptables you did iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT etc?
[08:44] <dparker> (default policy)
[08:44] <achilles> dparker, yes, some of them aren't linux, but yeah, I'm sure
[08:45] <dparker> achilles - k - you got me. if you're establishing an ssh connection, you obviously have routing working in both directions.
[08:45] <achilles> this will make me lose my mind
[08:45] <dparker> unless you've got some filter going on in the middle, can't think of anything that'd keep it from working
[08:45] <achilles> all of that stuff on the same LAN
[08:46] <dparker> netmasks all correct?
[08:46] <dparker> those can get you
[08:46] <dparker> if you have netmasks mis-matched
[08:48] <achilles> yes the are correct
[08:48] <tendragon> word
[08:48] <dparker> well - dude - put wireshark on the workstation and sniff
[08:48] <achilles> the weird thing, every host can access the server, but no where from the server you can go
[08:49] <achilles> as it refuses to establish any connection to the outside word
[08:49] <dparker> yeah - sniff. maybe check /var/log/*
[08:49] <achilles> or even to the lan
[08:49] <dparker> it sounds like filtering
[08:50] <dparker> but - don't know - check logs and use a sniffer to see what if anything is getting on the wire
[08:50] <achilles> okay
[08:50] <dparker> well
[08:50] <achilles> thank you
[08:50] <dparker> do you have selinux turned on?
[08:50] <Chowder> random question: why is it that when I install a video driver (for example) Ubuntu installs all the others along with it?
[08:50] <dparker> achilles: selinux might be able to mess you up there too
[08:51] <dparker> I'd be sure that's all turned off
[08:51] <xtrender> anyone here?
[08:51] <achilles> I don't have SELinux
[08:51] <dparker> k
[08:51] <xtrender> can someone helpme?
[08:51] <dparker> sniff and read logs
[08:51] <|Jurij|> Привет
[08:51] <|Jurij|> Нужна помощь
[08:51] <|Jurij|> ???
 go to the russian channel....comrade
[08:52] <Chowder> <_<
[08:52] <tendragon> what happent, xtrender?
[08:52] <Chowder> lol
[08:52] <xtrender> anyone here can helpme with firefox cache settings?
[08:52] <xtrender> the videos i watch in youtube does not get cached
[08:52] <dparker> xtrender - you might try #firefox
[08:53] <achilles> dparker, the source of the ICMP packets is not the ip of the br0 !
[08:53] <xtrender> nobody is there
[08:53] <NewHandFromCN> hi,hello.
[08:53] <NewHandFromCN> i want to install man page for "fseek ,fopen"
[08:53] <|Jurij|> What connect the russian channel?
[08:53] <NewHandFromCN> but i don't know wich package to install
[08:53] <dparker> xtrender - in the case of flash stuff  (which is what youtube is doing) you're kind of at the mercy of what adobe and whoever wrote the site what's you do be able to do
[08:53] <Swin> !ru
[08:54] <PrebenR> can anybody tell me ho locales work in ubuntu. It seems broken compared to Debian in Ubuntu 8.10: I want to stop it from trying to generate the invalid locale : no_No.UTF-8 but I cannot find which file locale-gen reads in Ubuntu to change it. I get this error:   no_NO.UTF-8... cannot open locale definition file `no_NO': No such file or directory
[08:54] <PrebenR> failed
[08:54] <NewHandFromCN> russian
[08:54] <tendragon> xtrender, do you want to clear the cache?
[08:54] <NewHandFromCN> which package contain the man page for "fopen ,fseek " the c functions?
[08:55] <JanPeter> Anyone use Ekiga?
[08:55] <PrebenR> NewHandFromCN, probably glibc-doc or libc-doc
[08:55] <xtrender> no.. normaly when one person watch a video, it should be cached. so if i open again the same video it should be loaded already (sory for the terrible english =/)
[08:56] <achilles> dparker, there is very weird thing, the server uses it's gw to send messages while the are on the the same subnet and on the same LAN
[08:56] <NewHandFromCN> PrebenR: thank you. :D. i try try
[08:56] <bomanizer> hi, is there a configuration utility for the xorg intel driver? something to conf. colors, etc.
[08:57] <Zallik> Hi, im trying to get Xhost working
[08:57] <Zallik> there are a set of instructions that are not working :(
[08:57] <Zallik> can someone help me
[08:57] <dparker> achilles: yeah - so that sounds like the network routes are wrong
[08:57] <dparker> achilles: when you bring an interface up, a network route is automatically created
[08:57] <voyagi> I've got some problems with apt-get. It's really slow, in the beginning like 50 kb/s, then 500b/s. I have 10 mbit ADSL and usually download in about 700 kb/s
[08:57] <Zallik> http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl_xhost.htm <-- Step 3 isnt working
[08:58] <dparker> achilles - you're sure the masks are right?
[08:58] <achilles> dparker, the server and the other nodes on the same switch, the network ID 192.168.200.0/24 ..
[08:58] <achilles> yes totally sure
[08:58] <Clone1> Hello all
[08:58] <Clone1> :)
[08:59] <Clone1> Is anyone there by chance?
[08:59] <Clone1> :)
[08:59] <Zallik> im here
[08:59] <JONT> 3halo da org
[08:59] <Zallik> but i dont no enough :(
[08:59] <Chowder> 1317 users here in total
[08:59] <Zallik> lol
[08:59] <JONT> jdbfhhjgfjgjhhjhjfggrgh
[08:59] <Chowder> DSFARGEG
[09:00] <JONT> bhs indo aja kalik
[09:00] <dparker> achilles: you got me I guess - if it's trying to send local traffic through the default gw then it's acting like the local network routes are wrong.
[09:00] <Clone1> Im only having a problem, Ubuntu installed onto my laptop, and its stuck at user and password, like it didnt let me set up my password, and i cant get it to install again, ive made like 2 disks to correct this lol
[09:00] <Clone1> Im on vista atm, i despise it lol
[09:01] <dparker> achilles: iptables -t nat --list - does that show anything?
[09:01] <Clone1> Any experts for Ubuntu here by chance?
[09:02] <achilles> it's empty
[09:02] <achilles> dparker, it's empty
[09:02] <dparker> hunh
[09:02] <PrebenR> nobody here that knows about locales?
[09:03] <Chowder> PrebenR, ask your question
[09:03] <PrebenR> Chowder, I did
[09:03] <PrebenR> can anybody tell me ho locales work in ubuntu. It seems broken compared to Debian in Ubuntu 8.10: I want to stop it from trying to generate the invalid locale : no_No.UTF-8 but I cannot find which file locale-gen reads in Ubuntu to change it. I get this error:   no_NO.UTF-8... cannot open locale definition file `no_NO': No such file or directory
[09:03] <dparker> achilles: /me ponders
[09:03] <achilles> dparker,  hmm ?
[09:03] <dparker> I'm just thinking
[09:03] <PrebenR> Chowder, where is the list where I can say I only want norwegian english and greek language?
[09:03] <rizitis> Clone1: reboot and try from safemode the option fix X
[09:03] <NewHandFromCN> find it . manpage-dev package
[09:03] <achilles> aha :)
[09:04] <dparker> I have no ideas
[09:04] <dparker> just pondering
[09:04] <Clone1> ok riz
[09:04] <Clone1> can i pm you info real quick?
[09:04] <Chowder> /etc/locale.alias
[09:04] <PrebenR> Chowder, the no_NO I haven't added and it is invalid
[09:04] <PrebenR> Chowder, that is the alias list
[09:04] <Chowder> hmm
[09:04] <achilles> dparker, I have a stupid idea, I'm thinking to restart the server
[09:04] <dparker> k
[09:04] <Chowder> I'm used to archlinux
[09:05] <PrebenR> in debian one had a file where one said which langagues to generate
[09:05] <Chowder>  /etc/locale.gen
[09:05] <PrebenR> it seems ubuntu uses some belocs-locales-bin
[09:05] <Chowder> try it out
[09:05] <Chowder> it shouldn't be harder then commenting/uncommenting something
[09:06] <Greencoat421> ok this bridge is not working
[09:06]  * bobbie4 loves ubuntu because it is good
[09:06] <Greencoat421> it keeps freezing my computer
[09:06] <PrebenR> Chowder, no go
[09:07] <Chowder> have you googled?
[09:07] <dparker> Greencoat421:
[09:07] <dparker> http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Ethernet-Bridge-netfilter-HOWTO.html#ss3.1
[09:07] <dparker> try that
[09:07] <Greencoat421> how can I reset all of my networking stuff and try starting from scratch
[09:07] <PrebenR> yes, but I'll try again
[09:07] <Chowder> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="Ubuntu"+locale&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
[09:07] <Chowder> When in doubt, always google
[09:08] <Greencoat421> ok dparker you keep sending me to stuff that isn't for a beginner
[09:09] <Greencoat421> so how can I reset all the network settings to start again fresh
[09:09] <Haymaker> I'm trying to compile a plugin package for pidgin, and make keeps failing because its looking for a /usr/lib/libxml2.la that i presume does not exist
[09:09] <dparker> Greencoat421: you can get a console on the thing right
[09:10] <Greencoat421> perhaps one of the threads I followed changed a setting somewhere
[09:10] <dparker> physical console access?
[09:10] <Greencoat421> you mean on the xbox?
[09:10] <achilles> dparker, it worked!!
[09:10] <lstarnes> Haymaker: install libxml2-dev
[09:10] <achilles> dparker, everything is okay.. very weird
[09:10] <Haymaker> ok
[09:10] <achilles> dparker, thank you very much
[09:10] <dparker> so the stack was just confused achilles?
[09:10] <Greencoat421> the xbox is standard, no mods so I don't think I can get a console on it
[09:11] <dparker> Greencoat421: I mean the box that you wanna set the bridging up on
[09:11] <UsamaAkkad>  hello , I want to report a bug . it's read but can you take a  look at it before I post it
[09:11] <achilles> dparker, maybe this is the only explanation .. but not convinced
[09:11] <Greencoat421> by console you mean a terminal?
[09:11] <UsamaAkkad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135277/
[09:11] <achilles> I restarted the networking serv+
[09:11] <achilles> dparker, I restarted the networking service
[09:11] <Haymaker> i think it's working, wow thanks i couldn't find that through google
[09:11] <CaptainMorgan> there's no "system restore" - like capability, no? I just installed a crapload of stuff- too much to mention, but I'd like to start over from scratch...
[09:11] <PrebenR> Chowder, had to delete /var/lib/belocs and then go to /var/lib/locales/supported.d and remove a no file that wsa there
[09:11] <dparker> achilles: stack must have been confused
[09:11] <PrebenR> messy
[09:12] <achilles> dparker, what prevents from getting it stuck again
[09:12] <lstarnes> Haymaker: if you have apt-file, you could try apt-file search /usr/lib/libxml2.la
[09:12] <dparker> Greencoat421: by console I mean can you sit physically at the computer without having to ssh into it?
[09:12] <Greencoat421> yes, I have my computer right next to my xbox all connected to my lcd
[09:13] <Greencoat421> and I am infront of all of them now
[09:13] <Chowder> PrebenR, I see
[09:13] <PrebenR> Chowder, finally! I can start programs in other languages :-)
[09:13] <dparker> ok - so - yeah - so this bridge stuff - you wanna do that right on that console there - not via ssh
[09:13] <Haymaker> hmmm alright thank you
[09:13] <Greencoat421> right
[09:13] <lyhana8> how do i configure epiphay to use tor ?
[09:13] <CaptainMorgan> any ideas?
[09:13] <podman99b> hey guys and gals... how long till ubuntu support n-trig multi-touch??
[09:13] <dparker> Greencoat421: do "sudo bash" to get a root prompt
[09:13] <ukubuntu> Does anyone know how to remove duplicate mails in evolution? I suddunly have a copy of every email in my inbox!
[09:13] <PrebenR> Chowder, I use english, but when helping other family memebers it is nice to use the correct language to explain how to do sth :-)
[09:13] <Greencoat421> done
[09:13] <Chowder> PrebenR, never underestimate the power of google
[09:14] <Chowder> :D
[09:14] <PrebenR> Chowder, didn't find it through google
[09:14] <dparker> Greencoat421: then pretty much do what this here says step by step, but use your own network numbers: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Ethernet-Bridge-netfilter-HOWTO.html#ss3.1
[09:14] <PrebenR> Chowder, but I thought to look in /var/lib to see if there was some similar files there
[09:14] <Greencoat421> how do I find my network numbers?
[09:14] <PrebenR> Chowder, beloc doesn'tseem to care about /etc
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> Greencoat421, numbers?
[09:15] <Greencoat421> dparker said it not me
[09:15] <dparker> Green - actually - even forget that I said that - just that last line where it says "root@bridge:~> ifconfig br0 10.0.3.129 up" - instead do "dhclient br0"
[09:15] <ukubuntu> or is there an evolution irc channel?
[09:15] <dparker> Greencoat421: ^^^
[09:15] <CaptainMorgan> poor choice in word
[09:16] <Greencoat421> ok so do everything in that except the last line?
[09:16] <Greencoat421> and do the dhclient instead there
[09:16] <dparker> Greencoat421: yeah- do dhclient br0 in place of the last line
[09:16] <dparker> yes
[09:17] <Chowder> PrebenR, the way locales are controlled is a bit strange
[09:17] <PrebenR> yes
[09:17] <PrebenR> if they could at least provide some UI
[09:18] <Chowder> PrebenR, well you can't have a UI for everything
[09:19] <Chowder> different distros just have different ways of doing things
[09:19] <PrebenR> Chowder, but this for sure. I mean people should be able to choose which languages they want? If not at least generating all languages should work out of the box
[09:19] <PrebenR> Chowder, Debian has a UI that can be used...
[09:20] <PrebenR> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:20] <Chowder> PrebenR, that should work
[09:20] <Chowder> did you try that?
[09:20] <PrebenR> it doesn't in debian
[09:20] <PrebenR> in ubuntu
[09:20] <PrebenR> it just starts generating all languages
[09:20] <Chowder> man dpkg
[09:20] <PrebenR> no
[09:21] <PrebenR> I mean they change it in ubuntu
[09:21] <Clone1> Well for some reason, Ubuntu wont go into safe mode.
[09:21] <PrebenR> to disable that you can choose languages
[09:21] <Clone1> tells me memtest, and thats it lol
[09:21] <PrebenR> google and you'll see others see the same
[09:21] <Haymaker> thank you, brb logging in to root to fix something
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> there's no "system restore" - like capability, no? I just installed a crapload of stuff- too much to mention, but I'd like to start over from scratch...
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> any ideas?
[09:22] <Chowder> CaptainMorgan, why do you need "start from scratch"
[09:22] <ganesh> i am not able to play a high clarity  video in totem,or vlc..it plays like a slideshow..how do i fix it?
[09:22] <Greencoat4211> ok dparker the dhclient froze my computer again
[09:22] <CaptainMorgan> I installed it all in coordination with a lengthy instruction site on server and thingys.... I'd like to absorb it more, probably went too fast.. but ironically, there are no mistakes... other than choosing an ISP that blocks my port
[09:23] <dparker> Greencoat4211: really?  As in you needed to reset it with the reset button??
[09:23] <Greencoat4211> yes
[09:23] <Greencoat4211> it's happend just about everytime
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan> thing is, things are drastically changed as it relates to the software I was attempting to get going Chowder ... no way to revert it all? granted even reverting, if it's possible, would take sincerely a while
[09:24] <dparker> are you using the graphic interface - the GUI or just a text console?
[09:24] <Greencoat4211> I am using a terminal client in my gui desktop
[09:25] <Greencoat4211> I'm running intrepid
[09:25] <dparker> ok - so it could be X freezing up on you - that's a little different.  sec...
[09:25] <Chowder> you could do a clean reinstall, yes
[09:25] <Greencoat4211> ok
[09:25] <Chowder> CaptainMorgan, in the future you may want to have your /home partition seperate so that in the event of a reinstall or any problem you'll always have that in tact
[09:26] <CaptainMorgan> eww.... that's how we did it in Sparc/sun systems... just.. ewww
[09:26] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[09:26] <LB05> Hi, I am seeking for help on installing Java on ubuntu(newest version). I have tried the steps of http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t72809.html but it doesn't work :( can anyone please help?
[09:27] <Chowder> CaptainMorgan, lol. Its more secure, though.
[09:27] <Chowder> in fact. /home, /, /tmp, /var, /boot
[09:27] <Chowder> all on different partitions
[09:28] <tuffgong> hello
[09:28] <zixo> hi
[09:28] <dparker> k - Greencoat4211 - you might try switching to single user mode to do this - have you  ever done that?
[09:28] <tuffgong> anyone  have any idea on how to delete a file that says i/o error and doesnt get deleted when i try to delete it?
[09:28] <Greencoat4211> nope
[09:28] <Chowder> tuffgong, what file?
[09:29] <Chowder> tuffgong, also, where's it located?
[09:29] <Gilpy> Can anybody help me with a media problem? Whenever a .flv file is played, either on youtube or a media program, my other video formats and music wont play. Im running Hardy Heron. Please help me!
[09:29] <rizitis> LB05: did you read the day that it was written ? "At 7:57 AM on May 25, 2006"
[09:29] <tuffgong> its just  a file... extension is .vdi its located on a USB drive
[09:29] <tuffgong> its a 14gig file
[09:29] <Chowder> Gilpy, use google
[09:29] <LB05> Oh o.O
[09:29] <LB05> no I didn't see that lol
[09:29] <dparker> ok - well - Greencoat4211 - to do it you get a root prompt and do "telinit s" - when you do that your gui will shut down and you'll have just one text console - sort of like an old MSDOS box (but lots better :) )
[09:29] <Chowder> tuffgong, that's a disk image for Virtualbox
[09:30] <LB05> Can anyone then forward me to a newer post or something?
[09:30] <tuffgong> yeah exactly
[09:30] <Chowder> tuffgong, is virtualbox running?
[09:30] <tuffgong> no im not running it
[09:30] <Gilpy> Ive tried google searching an answer but come up with nothing :(
[09:30] <tuffgong> ive even restarted my pc several times
[09:30] <Greencoat4211> ok, so I do that and all I should need to do is the dhclient right, not the rest of that faq?
[09:30] <Chowder> tuffgong, give me the benefit of the doubt and do this: sudo killall -9 virtualbox
[09:30] <Chowder> then try and delete it normally
[09:31] <dparker> well - Greencoat4211 if you had to reset the box then yeah you have to re-do the other steps
[09:31] <Greencoat4211> Well all the steps worked
[09:31] <rizitis> LB05: first of all remove those old repositories if you add them at you system
[09:31] <tuffgong> Chowder, no process killed... is the output i get
[09:31] <dparker> unless you set up interfaces to do that for you automatically
[09:31] <tuffgong> cos its not loaded at all
[09:31] <Greencoat4211> it was just when I got to the dhclient step that it would freeze
[09:31] <Chowder> tuffgong, then try deleting it from the virtual media manager in virtualbox
[09:32] <LB05> rizitis, done.
[09:32] <tuffgong> Chowder, ive already deleted it
[09:32] <dparker> ok - so - btw - Greencoat4211- before you did the dhclient thing, did you get a chance to try the xbox?
[09:32] <tuffgong> from the media manager
[09:32] <dparker> at that point the x box should be able to dhcp etc
[09:32] <Chowder> tuffgong, sudo rm whateverfile.vdi
[09:32] <Greencoat4211> no
[09:32] <dparker> you might try that
[09:32] <Greencoat4211> so try it now?
[09:32] <dparker> also - Greencoat4211 - your iptables are all clear right?
[09:33] <dparker> totally clear, default policy to ACCEPT - all that - right?
[09:33] <Greencoat4211> I have no idea
[09:33] <tuffgong> rm: cannot remove `OpenSolaris.vdi': Input/output error
[09:33] <dparker> ohboy ok
[09:33] <Chowder> tuffgong, that's odd
[09:33] <Chowder> I'm all out of magic tricks
[09:33] <tuffgong> Chowder, very odd! :s
[09:34] <dparker> Greencoat4211: add this at the beginning of it: "iptables -F; iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT ; iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT ; iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT"
[09:34] <tuffgong> its eating up friggin 14gigs and i dont have a clue on how to delete it :(
[09:34] <hardcoding> Hello can anyone help me activate my wireless network please?
[09:34] <Greencoat4211> you mean to the faq?
[09:34] <Greencoat4211> can you link me again to that?
[09:34] <picca> anyone here recommend banshee?  i am looking for something to replace rythembox as i can't get on with it
[09:34] <dparker> Greencoat4211: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Ethernet-Bridge-netfilter-HOWTO.html#ss3.1
[09:35] <Chowder> http://www.google.com/search?q=rm+input+output+error&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[09:35] <dparker> sometime before you attempt the dhclient thing, do the iptables stuff too
[09:35] <Greencoat4211> ok, so runn thelins youjst gave me, then the faq, try the xbox, if it doesn't work do the dhco
[09:35] <Chowder> tuffgong: http://www.google.com/search?q=rm+input+output+error&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[09:35] <Greencoat4211> *dhclient
[09:35] <hardcoding> please?
[09:35] <dparker> Greencoat4211: close - the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive
[09:36] <dparker> Greencoat4211: but since it's been crashing when you do dhclient on the bridge host, I'd just try the xbox first
[09:36] <dparker> if the xbox happens to work, then you know at least that bridging is working
[09:36] <Greencoat4211> ok
[09:36] <dparker> but Greencoat4211 - actually - be sure you do those iptables lines first
[09:36] <dparker> before anything
[09:37] <Greencoat4211> I just got done doing them
[09:37] <dparker> ok
[09:37] <home> hzi
[09:37] <rizitis> hardcoding: whats the problem?
[09:38] <home> cman error 2
[09:38] <home> what can i do
[09:39] <tuffgong> Chowder, thanks im readin into that, there's something like deleting the file using its inode no. i think i'll give it a try
[09:39] <hardcoding> rizitis,  I just can't get my wireless network to be activated.. hold on I am going to try ndiswrapper...
[09:41] <rizitis> hardcoding:  whatis the chipset of your network card ? is it usb or pci?
[09:41] <Mo0oSaH> I'm trying to install subversion by doing sudo apt-get install subversion
[09:41] <Mo0oSaH> and it is asking me for CD Rom
[09:41] <Chowder> tuffgong, np
[09:41] <L3dPlatedLinux> why make 8.04 lts=long term support if there are going to be newer versions? just asking
[09:42] <hardcoding> rizitis,   pci
[09:42] <unanxbt> hi
[09:42] <hardcoding> rizitis,  this is my card : Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[09:43] <HammerHead66> ﻿L3dPlatedLinux: because 8.04 is more stable.
[09:43] <unanxbt> there is a tv show on bbc entertainment in which there is a family (with a father, a mother, 2 sons and a doughter) and the father is a dentist, can you tell me its name?
[09:43] <mib_4ce3kx> what's the regular method for a client to use VNC to run X?
[09:43] <rizitis> hardcoding: all intel cards are working on linux...
[09:44] <L3dPlatedLinux> I have used the ishw in term but was wondering is there a way to get more info on the motherboard?
[09:44] <hardcoding> rizitis,   oh really? ... I know that, I've already used Kubuntu with my laptop and it would work perfectly fine I just forgot all the commands to activate my card.
[09:44] <rizitis> hardcoding: but give the command lspci -nn and pastebin it to see the chipset
[09:44] <L3dPlatedLinux> well isnt 8.10 stable yet?
[09:45] <Mo0oSaH> I'm trying to install subversion from the repos and it is asking me for ubuntu cd rom
[09:45] <Mo0oSaH> any idea why?
[09:45] <HammerHead66> not as much as 8.04
[09:45] <HammerHead66> it covers more PC's it is made for the masses
[09:46] <L3dPlatedLinux> well whatever it is as long as they dont stop ubuntu beats windoze any day
[09:46] <hardcoding> rizitis,  http://pastebin.com/d587b745c
[09:49] <ngwasuma> ha
[09:49] <rizitis> hardcoding: are you at ubuntu or kubuntu now?
[09:50] <hardcoding> rizitis,   on ubuntu
[09:51] <rizitis> hardcoding: if you command /usr/bin/nm-applet  what happens?
[09:52] <hardcoding> rizitis,  (nm-applet:8859): WARNING **: <WARN>  applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
[09:52] <Haymaker> i installed apt-file a bit ago and i tried to update and it's telling me it can't find the files it needs on the internet
[09:52] <hardcoding> and rizitis  (nm-applet:8859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[09:52] <Haymaker> and i tried those files through firefox and theyre 404, so its looking for something in the wrong spot i guess?
[09:52] <bobbie4> I have to leave now, okay?
[09:53] <Argus1> input signal out of range ubuntu 8.10 . Can somebody help me?
[09:53] <Greencoat421> dparker: ok none of this is working
[09:54] <dparker> Greencoat421: ok - sorry - that's about all I've got
[09:54] <Greencoat421> what is the telinit -s command again
[09:54] <Chowder> man telinit
[09:54] <dparker> that puts the machine into single user mode
[09:54] <dparker> it'll shutdown networking and the gui
[09:54] <rizitis> hardcoding: I think the problem is at the network manager but I dont know to say now...
[09:54] <dparker> it might mount all volumes read-only as well
[09:54] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[09:54] <zer0o> hi guys i run hardy, lately is been goin superslow and when i restart the system and it shuts down all the processes a couple of em fail and one of em just doesnt go ahead so it never restarts, is there a tool to verify the integrity of the system? or what do u suggest? thanks
[09:55] <Greencoat421> is that all to the command
[09:55] <silv3r_m00n> on the gnome desktop how can I make the icons show only 2 lines of caption instead of the whole caption
[09:55] <dparker> just telinit s - it a big mode switch
[09:55] <tuffgong> is deleting a corrupted undelete-able file using its inode no. on a ntfs usb drive a really good idea?
[09:55] <Greencoat421> it says -s isn't a valid option
[09:55] <Greencoat421> ah
[09:55] <dparker> no - just telinit s
[09:56] <Chowder> tuffgong, that sounds like a really bad idea
[09:56] <dparker> but - you know - it's going take you down to a console there
[09:56] <melik> if i install windows onto a logical partition, will it mess up my mbr?
[09:56] <dparker> just be aware of that
[09:56] <tuffgong> Chowder, really? what are the risks?
[09:56] <Chowder> idk
[09:56] <dparker> but - Greencoat421 - is it still literally locking up the machine when you dhclient?
[09:56] <Chowder> it just sounds bad
[09:56] <Chowder> lol
[09:56] <tuffgong> hehe...
[09:56] <Greencoat421> I think its locking up when the xbox queirs for a ip adress
[09:57] <tuffgong> :S Im loosing my head
[09:57] <Greencoat421> i did the telinit s but nothing happened
[09:57] <dparker> Greencoat421: as root?
[09:57] <Greencoat421> yes
[09:57] <Greencoat421> I did sudo bash
[09:57] <dparker> hrm
[09:57] <tuffgong> Chowder, is there any fsck kinda tool for ntfs?
[09:57] <Greencoat421> then telinit s
[09:57] <dparker> ok
[09:57] <oskar-> tuffgong: try it on a backup of the file system, made with dd, for example
[09:58] <dparker> which ubuntu version are you using, Greencoat421
[09:58] <Greencoat421> intrepid
[09:58] <dparker> yeah - ok - I think they switched to a new init subsystem which I have not yet looked at
[09:58] <dparker> there may be some crucial differences there
[09:59] <Greencoat421> ok, then how can I just set everything dealing with the network back to deafult so I can start with a clean slate
[09:59] <dparker> shoot - I'm sorry Greencoat421- I'm getting a bit punchy/tired here - I'm afraid I'm going to become increasinglly less effective than I already am ;)
[09:59] <Chowder> tuffgong, other than Windows chkdsk, idk
[09:59] <dparker> Greencoat421: sure
[09:59] <Chowder> there may be third party programs that off that type of functionality
[09:59] <tuffgong> whats idk???
[10:00] <Chowder> ntfs-3g
[10:00] <Chowder> idk=i don't know
[10:00] <tuffgong> hmm ok
[10:00] <dparker> Greencoat421: all things being equal, that procedure on that page should pretty much do it - I'm sort of at a loss as to what's going wrong
[10:00] <maxagaz> how to desactive shortcuts like Alt-F2 or Ctrl+Alt+F2 ?
[10:00] <tuffgong> heh ok idk neither! :)
[10:00]  * tuffgong brb digging a grave on the www
[10:01] <Greencoat421> guess I'll just have to dual boot windows until its simplified
[10:01] <dparker> k - sorry  Greencoat421 - again - it should work - not sure what's up
[10:02] <_dbd_l12> i think ntfsprogs has ntfsck
[10:03] <_dbd_l12> maxagaz: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/disable_extra_ttys
[10:05] <dominic_bredoto> hia
[10:06] <L3dPlatedLinux> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/search/label/Tweaks      <<<<< does this have any merit ?
[10:06] <dominic_bredoto> there is a list of task I need to do to become Ubuntu Prospectiv Developers
[10:06] <archman> hello
[10:08] <dominic_bredoto> ups
[10:08] <archman> now what's this: sometimes when I login to the session, my theme won't load, and I don't see "Applications, Places..." and Date & Time, and some buttons are different than they should be, and when I right click and "Change Desktop Background" it just logs off. Now this is lol.
[10:08] <dominic_bredoto> does anybody know what tasks i need to do to become Ubuntu Prospective Developer?
[10:10] <archman> I'm on intrepid, btw...
[10:10] <L3dPlatedLinux> archman   when ever I have a issue i just ctrl alt backspace and log in again to see if its better and most of the time it is
[10:11] <archman> L3dPlatedLinux, I know, but that is simply not the way...anyone knows something? Is it a known bug?
[10:11] <ernest> hello
[10:11] <HammerHead66> ﻿dominic_bredoto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto this link will get you started and it has many links to other programs you might want to try
[10:11] <dominic_bredoto> does anybody know what tasks i need to do to become Ubuntu Prospective Developer?
[10:12] <HammerHead66> ﻿dominic_bredoto: scroll up
[10:13] <dominic_bredoto> hm
[10:13] <ernest> i have got problem with skype
[10:14] <mirek> what problem?
[10:14] <ernest> my microphone volume go down when i start talk with friends
[10:14] <ernest> its 100% when i start skype and after few seconds its going to 50%
[10:15] <vuongsau> unbreak_my_heart_vs
[10:15] <soussou> hhtgh
[10:15] <vuongsau> yes
[10:15] <soussou> hello
[10:15] <ernest> hi
[10:15] <dominic_bredoto> HammerHead66,In Membership Requirements i find this:" Generally, at least two months of visible, significant activity will be required" what it meens?
[10:16] <vuongsau> i don't known
[10:16] <HammerHead66> ﻿dominic_bredoto: you have to be be an Active member for 2 months before you can become whatever you are trying to do I think. what are you trying to do?
[10:18] <neeteex> Hi there, what can be done if ubuntu seems to reach CPU max ? This seems strange since I'm doing nothing special...
[10:18] <archman> Is there a way to switch from Gnome to Xfce?
[10:18] <soussou> hi
[10:19] <mepk> hi
[10:19] <dominic_bredoto> HammerHead66, to become Ubuntu Prospective or Comtributing Developer
[10:19] <archman> hi
[10:19] <Shinu> affects or effects? (This ban affects me)
[10:19] <Chowder> affects
[10:20] <Shinu> Thanks Chowder :)
[10:20] <_dbd_l12> archman: yes you can install the xfce (sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop)
[10:20] <HammerHead66> ﻿dominic_bredoto: try to just be a member. Setup an account to get started. And help the teams out whenever you can. Before you know it you will be able to do what you are hoping to do.
[10:20] <archman> _dbd_l12, will all the apps remain installed?
[10:21] <dominic_bredoto> HammerHead66, thank
[10:21] <_dbd_l12> archman: yes, you will have the choice between gnome and xfce in gdm (where you enter your login credentials when x starts)
[10:21] <HammerHead66> ﻿dominic_bredoto: np
[10:21] <_dbd_l12> archman: problems will keep installed of course
[10:21] <Chowder> Shinu: np
[10:21] <_dbd_l12> archman: programs i meant
[10:22] <Trae> anyone know how I'd use rdesktop on ctrl+alt+F8 ?  I see the -0  flag in the help screen
[10:25] <Trae> nm... ctrl+alt+enter
[10:25] <archman_> sorry, had to restart
[10:25] <archman_> so?
[10:26] <broken_quiche1> I fathered that I need to defragment an MS-DOS partition before resizing - does the same apply to ext3 filesystems? The data is important.
[10:26] <unlink> Why might closing / switching tabs be so slow for me?
[10:27] <unlink> ~500 - 1500ms
[10:27] <abchirk> hi is it better to use 8.04 or better intrepid? Currently I have intrepid 64 bit, but there is a lot buggy
[10:27] <unlink> Usually switching tabs is pretty fast (~90ms), but every 10 or 12 times, it is very slow.
[10:28] <Chowder> unlink, opening up a new tab in firefox uses up a significant amount of RAM
[10:28] <unlink> Chowder: I'm not opening any new tabs. Oh, but good point. Firefox is consuming around 2.5 GB.
[10:29] <Chowder> wow
[10:29] <gordonjcp> woot
[10:29] <unlink> I just have 8 tabs open. Nothing special, except gmail.
[10:29] <gordonjcp> after only 12 hours I have working NVidia glx!
[10:29] <archman_> hello again
[10:30] <gordonjcp> let this be a lesson to all - if you replace your graphics card with a nearly identical graphics card, it will save time to just wipe your drive and reinstall
[10:30] <Fudge> !gnome2.6
[10:30] <Fudge> !upgrade gnome
[10:30] <gordonjcp> Fudge: isn't gnome 2.6 quite old now?
[10:30] <Fudge> usign ubuntu 8.10, how do you upgrade gnome, hopefully with aptitude
[10:31] <archman_> So the question is: how to install xfce without any additional apps?
[10:31] <gordonjcp> archman_: one would assume "sudo apt-get install xfce"
[10:31] <Fudge> what version is gnome on then? gordonjcp
[10:31] <Aokaado> 2.26 is newest gnome
[10:31] <gordonjcp> !tab | Fudge
[10:32] <gordonjcp> Fudge: if you put the nick at the start of the line, it highlights what you say in that person's irc client
[10:32] <unlink> Hmm. Quitting firefox doesn't bring up the menu to ask me if I'd like to save my session or just quit. Instead, it directly exits the program.
[10:32] <gordonjcp> makes it easier to keep track of who is talking to you
[10:32] <Fudge> is that 094
[10:32] <Fudge> 904
[10:32] <archman_> gordonjcp, there's no xfce
[10:32] <Fudge> gordonjcp yep of course
[10:32] <Fudge> :)
[10:33] <UsamaAkkad> unlink, if you chose quit for the file menu it will ask you
[10:33] <gordonjcp> archman_: try apt-cache search xfce and look for reasonable-sounding names
[10:33] <Fudge> gordonjcp would apt-get install gnome-desktop be right?
[10:33] <gordonjcp> Fudge: think 8.10 is on 2.24 anyway
[10:34] <Fudge> gordonjcp isnt 2.6 updated since 2.24?
[10:34] <unlink> UsamaAkkad: No, it doesn't.
[10:34] <gordonjcp> Fudge: 2.6 is ancient
[10:35] <archman_> gordonjcp, xfwm4 - window manager of the Xfce project ?
[10:35] <Fudge> i dont undesrtand gordonjcp, when was 2.6 released then and what is the latest gnome desktop
[10:35] <gordonjcp> Fudge: the version numbers aren't "two decimal six" or "two decimal two six" but "two dot six" or "two dot twenty-six"
[10:35] <fosco_> Fudge, latest gnome is 2.26
[10:35] <gordonjcp> Fudge: latest gnome desktop is 2.26, ubuntu comes with 2.24
[10:35] <Fudge> ah gordonjcp i see, thankyou
[10:36] <gordonjcp> Fudge: I don't remember when 2.6 came out, it was at least five years ago
[10:36] <Fudge> thankyou mate
[10:36] <Fudge> gordonjcp i meant 2.26 then :)
[10:36] <UsamaAkkad> when I chose quit from file menu it asks me if I want to save the session which some times I don't get it by clicking close button at the upper left corner
[10:37] <Fudge> id read it wrong
[10:37] <gordonjcp> Fudge: anyway check the changelog for the differences between 2.24 and 2.26, it's probably more bother than it's worth
[10:37] <Guest41114> dose any body know much about vbox?
[10:37] <gordonjcp> Fudge: apparently the biggie is that they use Brasero for burning CDs instead of Gnome CD-Burner - but that's already the case in Ubuntu anyway
[10:37] <archman_> gordonjcp, then?
[10:38] <gordonjcp> archman_: then what?
[10:38] <archman_> 11:36 < archman_> gordonjcp, xfwm4 - window manager of the Xfce project ?
[10:40] <prince_jammys> archman_: try 'xfce4'
[10:40] <prince_jammys> !info xfce4
[10:40] <prince_jammys> this does not come with all the apps
[10:41] <guler> hi
[10:41] <prince_jammys> archman_: well, it comes with thunar(file manager) and xfce-terminal, but not much else.
[10:42] <prince_jammys> archman_: and it'll install xfwm4 (the window manager)
[10:42] <archman_> prince_jammys, oh, just what I wanted to ask, thanks ;)
[10:42] <archman_> prince_jammys, will I have the choice to login to gnome again? on the login screen?
[10:43] <prince_jammys> yes
[10:43] <prince_jammys> it won't uninstall anything
[10:44] <archman_> I'll try it now.
[10:44] <archman_> see you, thanks
[10:45] <invisibleninja> Hey Dude,don't  ignore.
[10:45] <archman_> lol
[10:45] <invisibleninja> I ma Good man.
[10:47] <invisibleninja> I ma the the man, who can teach you how to rock?
[10:47] <bazhang> !ot > invisibleninja
[10:47] <broken_quiche1> I gathered that I need to defragment an MS-DOS partition before resizing - does the same apply to ext3 filesystems? The data is important. This suggests that it does, but maybe th author just wasn't thinking... http://www.softpanorama.org/Internals/disk_partitioning.shtml
[10:47] <oskar-> invisibleninja:  what is the question?
[10:48] <assid_> hey
[10:48] <invisibleninja> It's kinda good idea to be Rock,think about it..........rock ......rock....
[10:48] <assid_> i got access to a box, but its sitting on etch.. so i updated etch to stable in sources.list and now its giving me some key error
[10:49] <assid_> oops.. wrong windw
[10:49] <m0nst3rkill3r> Hey Guys
[10:49] <Blinkiz> I want to attach a IDE harddrive to a running ubuntu desktop computer without reboot. Is it as simple as just plugin it in and linux kernel will detect it? Or do I need to run a command for it to scan new ide devices?
[10:49] <m0nst3rkill3r> uhm
[10:49] <m0nst3rkill3r> How can i make a autostart in ubuntu with the console ?
[10:49] <m0nst3rkill3r> i installed teamspeak-server
[10:50] <m0nst3rkill3r> with packet manager
[10:51] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[10:51] <Blinkiz> I think there is a spam bot in here. User invisibleninja sends me privat mess when I join this channel
[10:51] <silv3r_m00n> I changed some setting in control center after which konqueror stopped showing file previews in icons ... what was that setting ?
[10:51] <ortsvorsteher> !boot | m0nst3rkill3r
[10:52] <broken_quiche1> Must i defrag an ext3 partition before resize?
[10:52] <frog_> hi,the error amount by dd_rescue, is it the amount of bytes, sectors or of what?
[10:54] <Chowder> broken_quiche1, i don't think that ext3 supports defrag
[10:54] <Chowder> that's ext4
[10:54] <Wintervenom> Hello.  Any recommendation for a music player that can deal with a terabyte music collection?
[10:55] <usr13> Wintervenom: Wow.
[10:55] <usr13> broken_quiche1: No need to defrag, it doesn't frag
[10:56] <UsamaAkkad> can any one help with this
[10:56] <UsamaAkkad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346682
[10:56] <UsamaAkkad> sorry
[10:56] <UsamaAkkad> was this
[10:56] <UsamaAkkad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/251378
[10:57] <kebabskal> hello
[10:57] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[10:57] <silv3r_m00n> my konqueror doesn't show image thumbnails/previews
[10:57] <silv3r_m00n> how do I enable them
[10:57] <Wintervenom> usr13:  Yeah, I know.  :P   Rhythmbox dies when I try to use it with that.
[10:58] <Wintervenom> And then everything gets slow because it will eat up all the RAM I have.
[10:59] <archman> ok, i'm in xfce4. It's impressive :)
[10:59] <archman> faaast
[10:59] <kebabskal> installed the jaunty beta yesterday and ive got no 3d (ati). i read there was some special version of fglrx just released. is it the version available through synaptic?
[10:59] <prince_jammys> silv3r_m00n: open konq, and change it in `Configure konqueror'
[11:00] <usr13> Wintervenom: Have you tried amarok?
[11:00] <silv3r_m00n> prince_jammys: fine I solved it
[11:00] <lstarnes> kebabskal: ask in #ubuntu+1 if you are using jaunty
[11:00] <prince_jammys> silv3r_m00n: Settings ... ah ok.
[11:00] <kebabskal> lstarnes: thanks ill try that
[11:00] <ttl_> what extension of programs does ubuntu support?
[11:01] <lstarnes> ttl_: extension?
[11:01] <invisibleninja> O.K I m Sorry because non of you liked my idea.
[11:01] <ttl_> invisibleninja: what was your idea?
[11:01] <ttl_> lstarnes: i mean .deb or .rpm?
[11:02] <Chowder> programs that everyone should have: rkhunter and chkrootkit
[11:02] <vega_> ttl_: ubuntu is based on debian so .deb
[11:02] <kebabskal> ttl_: you should use .deb if the application you want to install isnt already in the software repository.
[11:02] <lstarnes> ttl_: programs themselves rarely have extensions.  ubuntu uses .deb fir packages
[11:02] <lstarnes> *for
[11:03] <Chowder> apt://rkhunter
[11:03] <Chowder> apt://chkrootkit
[11:03] <Chowder> get them
[11:03] <ttl_> what are those?
[11:04] <prince_jammys> `root kit' checkers
[11:04] <maxagaz> how to use gnome kiosk ?
[11:04] <lstarnes> prince_jammys: rootkit is one word
[11:04] <prince_jammys> oh, so sorry.
[11:04] <ttl_> tripwire is pretty effective in rootkits i think
[11:05] <invisibleninja> No it's all over now I cant,let's forget it.
[11:05] <Chowder> tripwire?
[11:06] <ttl_> tripwire does a checksum against the original file system and detect changes which eventually and effectively discover rootkits
[11:07] <kebabskal> can i downgrade xorg to a version that supports my ati graphics card?
[11:12] <usr13> kebabskal: What  is your graphics card?
[11:12] <kebabskal> usr13: ati radeon x1950xtx
[11:12] <archman> prince_jammys: how can I make windows to minimize to the panel? (xfce4)
[11:13] <usr13> kebabskal: What version of Ubuntu?
[11:14] <invisibleninja> Is there anybody who is the master in simulation game's?If there,cool help me.
[11:14] <kebabskal> usr13: right now, jaunty
[11:14] <kalidar> does anyone know of a good fserving irc and a good fserv network??
[11:14] <prince_jammys> archman: no idea. i don't have xfce
[11:14] <kebabskal> usr13: latest beta
[11:14] <kalidar> peticuraly anime
[11:14] <usr13> kebabskal: Is it not loading a driver at all?
[11:14] <usr13> kebabskal: Or what?
[11:14] <kalidar> could someone private chat me if they can help
[11:15] <m0nst3rkill3r> Hey guys i downloaded the Teamspeak-server via packetmanager to make an autostart but i get
[11:15] <m0nst3rkill3r> Error starting daemon. Aborted
[11:15] <m0nst3rkill3r> i installed my root new
[11:15] <Chowder> ttl_, sounds good
[11:15] <Chowder> is it in the repos?
[11:15] <wangyi_> ?
[11:15] <kalidar> does anyone know of a good fserv irc for kubuntu and a good frserv network for anime??? if you can help can u plz pm me :)
[11:15] <ttl_> try to get it from apt get
[11:15] <m0nst3rkill3r> i did
[11:16] <m0nst3rkill3r> apt-get install teamspeak-server
[11:16] <kebabskal> usr13: i get all jumbled graphics when booted up. i cant see a fglrx module with lsmod. if i try to modprobe fglrx i get FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory
[11:16] <wangyi_> F80s安装ubuntu没有声音？
[11:16] <kebabskal> usr13: i know there are problems with ati on jaunty
[11:16] <archman> prince_jammys: is there a channel for xfce support?
[11:16] <gordonjcp> archman: /j #xfce ;-)
[11:16] <prince_jammys> archman: there's probably an #xfce or #xfce4
[11:17] <Chowder> ttl_, got it, configuring now
[11:17] <kalidar> does anyone know of a good fserv irc for kubuntu and a good frserv network for anime??? if you can help can u plz pm me :)
[11:17] <ttl_> apt get or in the repos?
[11:17] <lstarnes> kalidar: that kind of stuff is off-topic for this channel and possibly this network
[11:17] <kalidar> oh im realy sorry
[11:18] <kalidar> could you direct me to where i could find that information please?
[11:18] <ttl_> Chowder: what made you think that there's a rootkit at the first place?
[11:18] <usr13> kebabskal: Well, I found: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=877421 and http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_8.4_Driver_Manually
[11:18] <lstarnes> kalidar: http://irc.netsplit.de and http://searchirc.com both have channel listings for many irc networks
[11:18] <kalidar> thanks alot sorry again :(
[11:19] <usr13> kebabskal: Other than that, I don't know.  I use Nvidia.
[11:20] <Chowder> ttl_, sheer paranoia
[11:20] <Rafpix> hi all
[11:20]  * Chowder puts on a tinfoil hat
[11:20] <kebabskal> usr13: thanks, the card works fine in intrepid. just jaunty that skrews things up. i think its because of the new xorg version used.
[11:20] <ttl_> Chowder: you should get snort and forget about your system security as long as you follow a healthy security style
[11:21] <gordonjcp> Chowder: rkhunter will tell you ;-)
[11:22] <gordonjcp> Chowder: for the most part it's quite hard to get rooted though, unless you're doing something deliberately stupid
[11:25] <Chowder> ttl_, I wouldn't even know how to use it
[11:27] <ttl_> read the manual i guess
[11:27] <Chowder> true
[11:28] <Chowder> I take it that snort has to do with sniffing?
[11:28] <icarus-c> can i run a live cd on ram?
[11:29] <_igel_> hi
[11:30] <espen> Hello all! Anyone who could help me with dovecot???
[11:30] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | espen
[11:30] <icarus-c> can i run a live cd on ram?
[11:31] <DMJC> anyone had a sata hdd die?
[11:31] <oskar-> icarus-c:  without a hard drive, yes
[11:31] <DMJC> I think I just had a 1tb die on me
[11:31] <ttl_> DMJC: what's wrong with it?
[11:31] <DMJC> bios sits on the drive at boot for ages
[11:31] <icarus-c> oskar-: i have load the everything to the ram
[11:31] <DMJC> and I get messages in ubuntu
[11:31] <icarus-c> oskar-: i mean
[11:31] <DMJC> SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
[11:31] <DMJC> [  148.084624] ata1: link online but device misclassified, retrying
[11:31] <DMJC> [  148.084628] ata1: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
[11:31] <DMJC> etc etc
[11:31] <ttl_> DMJC: what brand?
[11:31] <DMJC> seagate
[11:31] <DMJC> 1tb
[11:32] <ttl_> how did you know that it's dead?
[11:32] <DMJC> I don't
[11:32] <DMJC> I'm trying it on different sata ports
[11:32] <ttl_> and?
[11:32] <DMJC> and it's doing the same on all of them
[11:32] <DMJC> bios sits for ages
[11:32] <ttl_> doing what?
[11:32] <DMJC> then moves on
[11:32] <DMJC> ubuntu prints out SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
[11:32] <DMJC> [  148.084624] ata1: link online but device misclassified, retrying
[11:32] <DMJC> [  148.084628] ata1: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
[11:32] <DMJC> when I hotplug it
[11:33] <ttl_> DMJC: what's your processor speed and ram?
[11:33] <sridhar> o
[11:33] <DMJC> dude
[11:33] <DMJC> ttl_
[11:33] <DMJC> my drive model has a high failure rae
[11:33] <DMJC> *rate
[11:34] <DMJC> I just looked it up online, the model number etc matches
[11:34] <sridhar> how to write plugins in c
[11:34] <lstarnes> sridhar: plugins for what?
[11:34] <DMJC> looks like I'm going to be putting in a request for a new drive
[11:34] <ttl_> DMJC: how old is it? and what's your processor and rams?
[11:35] <DMJC> e2220
[11:35] <DMJC> 4gb ddr2 800
[11:36] <ttl_> cache?
[11:36] <DMJC> cpu cache/
[11:36] <sameep> hi , how can i create multiple email accounts (from a text file) from the command line ?
[11:37] <DMJC> 1mb/core
[11:37] <DMJC> 2mb total
[11:37] <WishingMaster> what is the command to uninstall google earth?
[11:37] <icarus-c> WishingMaster: check its doc
[11:38] <ortsvorsteher> WishingMaster: if you installed it from repositories, try "sudo apt-get remove googleearth"
[11:38] <WishingMaster> ortsvorsteher, i will try
[11:38] <icarus-c> WishingMaster: for the bin from google i think just delete the its directory will do
[11:39] <ttl_> DMJC: how did you partition it?
[11:39] <mchelen> sameep, depends what mail server you are using
[11:40] <sameep> thanks , how do I find that out?
[11:40] <DMJC> single large partition
[11:40] <DMJC> fdisk
[11:40] <michael> My firefox starts with no titlebar. I have to hit F11 twice before it comes back
[11:40] <DMJC> and reiserfs
[11:40] <michael> anyone else have this problem?
[11:40] <Psuedo> Greetings
[11:40] <yellabs> hello all
[11:40] <Psuedo> Does Ubuntu support installation onto a GPT partition?
[11:40] <ttl_> DMJC: that's pretty dangerous to do for such a huge filesystem
[11:40] <mchelen> michael, does it still happen if you make a new ff profile?
[11:41] <Threetimes> hi, how do i let TilEm and TiLP work together?
[11:41] <yellabs> michael might it be due to compiz / desktop effects?
[11:41] <michael> I haven't tried a new profile yet
[11:41] <WishingMaster> i am unable to uninstall google earth,i get a message in terminal that its not installed
[11:41] <Psuedo> Does Ubuntu support installation onto a GPT partition?
[11:41] <yellabs> what program can i use to make my own gnome themes?
[11:41] <michael> yellabs: I don't think compiz is causing it
[11:41] <yellabs> ok
[11:41] <jrib> WishingMaster: how did you install it?
[11:41] <icarus-c> WishingMaster: delete the google-earth directory where you install it
[11:41] <ttl_> DMJC: try using it on different systems, if the same results, then try to repartition it to more smaller ones like 250 each max
[11:41] <jrib> yellabs: art.gnome.org has a tutorial (you use a text editor)
[11:42] <WishingMaster> i added google earth through ubuntu tweaks
[11:42] <ttl_> or 350 gigs max i guess
[11:42] <Psuedo> Does Fedora support installation onto a GPT partition?
[11:42] <yellabs> ok text eh...
[11:42] <icarus-c> Psuedo: Fedora?
[11:42] <yellabs> :)
[11:42] <icarus-c> Psuedo: -> #fedora
[11:42] <Psuedo> lol
[11:43] <Psuedo> soz
[11:43] <jrib> WishingMaster: you have to find out what ubuntu tweaks does then :/
[11:43] <Psuedo> I meants Ubuntu
[11:43] <Psuedo> installing both
[11:43] <Psuedo> onto GPT
[11:43] <Psuedo> and want to know if it is possible
[11:43] <jrib> Psuedo: what is a GPT partition?
[11:43] <jrib> !enter | Psuedo
[11:43] <Psuedo> Does Ubuntu support installation onto a GPT partition?
[11:44] <yellabs> is gpt g parted ?
[11:44] <Psuedo> jrib: GPT as opposed to MBR
[11:44] <icarus-c> GUID Partition Table
[11:44] <Psuedo> (partitioning tables)
[11:44] <yellabs> ah
[11:45] <Psuedo> yeh
[11:45] <Threetimes> Psuedo: I think ubuntu itself won't be a problem. What could be a problem is your bootloader...
[11:45] <Psuedo> Thanks
[11:45] <Psuedo> time to go on #grub
[11:46] <Threetimes> I'm not sure, however...
[11:48] <kinja-sheep> Could sombody hp m googl for my issu with missing ltt. I can us anything I suppos but not th ltt.  Look.  abcd f.
[11:50] <kinja-sheep> Do on undrstand what I'm saying abov? Plas googl for m.  Missing lttr (E), but not smallr (E).
[11:50] <bazhang> kinja-sheep, try another keyboard
[11:50] <jrib> kinja-sheep: google isn't case sensitive by the way
[11:50] <kinja-sheep> bazhang: Laptop.  It works finE in thE past.
[11:51] <acicula> seems broken now
[11:51] <kinja-sheep> ThEn this startEd to happEn for no rEason.  ThE uppEr E work but small E to no avail?
[11:51] <bazhang> kinja-sheep, as has been suggested you can use E to google with.
[11:51] <acicula> maybe a funky keyboard map loaded?
[11:51] <kinja-sheep> bazhang: Okay.  acicula -- I don't know.  How would I confirm that?
[11:52] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: do you have numlock on?
[11:53] <michael> I removed localstore.rdf and now firefox starts with a title bar.
[11:53] <realsifo> helo
[11:53] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: It was off.  I tEstEd it with on/off and nothing.
[11:53] <ziroday> michael: creating a new profle works too
[11:54] <michael> ziroday: A new profile will require me to back up all my bookmarks and restore them though right?
[11:54] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: does it happen on a livecd?
[11:54] <ziroday> michael: true
[11:54] <sameep> @mchelen : i use exim
[11:54] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: No.  I havE using thE IbEx for somE timE now.  This just happEn rEcEnTly.
[11:55] <realsifo> please help me
[11:55] <mchelen> sameep, probably gotta look at the documentation for that server
[11:55] <sameep> ok thanks
[11:55] <[BDSM]SexyTime> hello folks
[11:55] <realsifo> my ubuntu grub missing
[11:55] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: how about a new user?
[11:55] <[BDSM]SexyTime> i have a question
[11:55] <ziroday> realsifo: you can reinstall it
[11:56] <[BDSM]SexyTime> does anyone one of you know the game "secret of the solstice"?
[11:56] <ziroday> !fixgrub | realsifo
[11:56] <realsifo> i have two os in my computer
[11:56] <bazhang> !ot | [BDSM]SexyTime
[11:56] <AdamDH> any one here know about rescuing a disk with ddrescue or is this the wrong place to ask? I am using a ubuntu live cd to do the recovery
[11:56] <[BDSM]SexyTime> The question would be, why it won't run under wine
[11:56] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: I didn't crEatE a nEw usEr account or you wantEd mE to?
[11:56] <realsifo> ziroday: i reinstall my windows xp. then my ubuntu is gone
[11:56] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: yes, I want you too
[11:56] <[BDSM]SexyTime> I didn't mean to ask things about the game itself
[11:57] <ziroday> realsifo: read the info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[11:57] <realsifo> thanks
[11:57] <[BDSM]SexyTime> no one?
[11:57] <rizitis> [BDSM]SexyTime: not all games playing under wine...
[11:58] <bazhang> !appdb > [BDSM]SexyTime
[11:58] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: ProblEm.  Password including thE lEttEr E.
[11:58] <[BDSM]SexyTime> oh, clever
[11:58] <[BDSM]SexyTime> appdb has the last entry for 7.04
[11:58] <lstarnes> kinja-sheep: copy-paste?
[11:58] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: well then you probably need to reinstall.
[11:58] <ziroday> lstarnes: ooh smart
[11:58] <[BDSM]SexyTime> don't treat me like a noob :)
[11:59] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: or do use an onscreen keyboard
[11:59] <[BDSM]SexyTime> aw man. no answer i suppose. well, keep fagging up the community. i'm off. elitist fags.
[12:00] <UsamaAkkad> :D
[12:00] <DigitalKiwi> haha calling ubuntu people that...>.> sorry but most of you are far from elitist compared to certain other channels...you just don't have the umm...goods
[12:01] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: User 'bob' created.
[12:01] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: and?
[12:01] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: Nothing. I still have an issue with letter 'e'.
[12:02] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: I should sign in.
[12:02] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: do you have an issue with a new user?
[12:03] <mint3> i am trying to install ubuntu on my pc
[12:03] <mint3> which version do you suggest?
[12:03] <oskar-> mint3:  8.10
[12:03] <mint3> is it kde ?
[12:04] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: No.  It workEd accordingly.
[12:04] <jrib> mint3: if you get kubuntu, it will have kde by default, yes
[12:04] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: BorkEd kEymap?
[12:04] <jrib> kinja-sheep: does xev show anything when you press 'e'?
[12:04] <mint3> what if i download ubuntu what will i get ?
[12:05] <mint3> am here --->http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition
[12:05] <jrib> mint3: gnome by default, but you can install kde later
[12:05] <kinja-sheep> jrib: xEv?  YEs.  I can typE (small) E on tExt Editor just finE.
[12:05] <jrib> mint3: kubuntu is ubuntu with a different set of default packages
[12:05] <mint3> i want ubuntu with kde
[12:05] <mint3> i dont want kubuntu tho
[12:05] <jrib> kinja-sheep: oh, so where exactly doesn't it work?  Everywhere except a text editor?
[12:05] <oskar-> mint3:  then go here: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/kubuntu
[12:05] <jrib> mint3: kubuntu *is* ubuntu with kde
[12:05] <kinja-sheep> jrib: EvErything.
[12:06] <mint3> jrib, what do u use ?
[12:06] <kinja-sheep> jrib: FirEFox, XChat, Etc.
[12:06] <jrib> kinja-sheep: but you just said it worked in a text editor and in xev, right?
[12:06] <mint3> what would u guys suggest? kde or gnome ?
[12:06] <kinja-sheep> jrib: In thE nEwly frEsh account I crEatEd.
[12:06] <sprinkmeier__> mint3, if in doubt, stick to the defaults.
[12:06] <sprinkmeier__> !best | mint3
[12:07] <jrib> mint3: that's personal preference.  If you're not sure, then install ubuntu and afterwards install kde (install the kubuntu-desktop package) and try them both
[12:07] <jrib> kinja-sheep: so in the old account it doesn't work at all (not even in xev or a text editor) and in the new account it only works in xev and a text editor?
[12:08] <mint3> sprinkmeier__ - true, defaults will do then
[12:08] <kinja-sheep> jrib: YEs.  I'll try rEboot onE morE timE..  MaybE somEthing wEnt wrong on thE last onE.
[12:09] <mint3> cheers mate
[12:09] <marco> i'm hungry!
[12:09] <marco> xD
[12:09] <maxagaz> how to disable Ctrl and Alt on my computer ?
[12:09] <sprinkmeier__> mint3, but as jrib suggested, give KDE a try (once you've gotten ubuntu up and running) just to see what's different. Then choose.
[12:12] <marco> why do you want to disable ctrl and alt???
[12:12] <xxtjaxx> hey gguys which drivers are needed for canon printers
[12:12] <|0_C1NZ4|> hey guys, someone could help me with the updagrading to ubuntu 8.10?
[12:12] <jrib> !printing | xxtjaxx
[12:12] <jrib> xxtjaxx: I just plug mine in, turn it on, and ubuntu detects it and configures it automagically
[12:13] <xxtjaxx> jrib yeah thats standard but at my printer(a canon i250) the openoffice syas it failed
[12:14] <maciek> ;D
[12:14] <jrib> xxtjaxx: did you check the links from ubottu?
[12:14] <kinja-sheep> jrib: Tsting.  No it didn't work. Somthing is awful wrong. Lol...
[12:14] <Guest80087> Hi
[12:14] <jrib> kinja-sheep: I have no idea what "it" is
[12:14] <Threetimes> xxtjaxx: try somthing else than OOo, try gEdit for example
[12:15] <mefisto__> kinja-sheep: do you not have another keyboard? maybe a crumb fell in there or a bug died inside it?
[12:15] <kinja-sheep> jrib: I can't usE thE lEttEr (lowErcasE) E but I can usE (uppErcasE) E whEn I hold thE shift kEy.
[12:15] <lstarnes> kinja-sheep: can you do a lowercase using caps lock with shift+e?
[12:16] <jrib> kinja-sheep: but there were differences between a fresh new user and the old one right?
[12:16] <kinja-sheep> mEfisto__:  No.  It workEd fiNE in nEw account.
[12:16] <kinja-sheep> jrib: YEs.
[12:16] <jrib> kinja-sheep: I thought you said it didn't work fine in the new account...
[12:16] <jrib> !away > Mud|afk
[12:16] <kinja-sheep> lstarnes: e <--- IT WORKD.
[12:17] <kinja-sheep> jrib: No. Opposit.  It workEd in nEw account, but not my main account.
[12:17] <jrib> kinja-sheep: then it's a configuration issue
[12:17] <kraut> moin
[12:17] <kinja-sheep> jrib: I think somEthing wEnt wrong at load timE.  KEyMap, maybE.
[12:18] <hitman_beginner> find PDF file about networking !
[12:19] <hitman_beginner> please help
[12:19] <jrib> hitman_beginner: what exactly are you looking for?
[12:19] <|0_C1NZ4|> I have just updagraded my ubuntu to 8.10 and the X was messed up!
[12:19] <jrib> |0_C1NZ4|: expand on what you mean by "messed up"
[12:20] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: ok, it's hard to explain but ok...
[12:21] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: i can see the X screen (gdm) like a shadow, in gdm there is a solid background color
[12:21] <|0_C1NZ4|> but some parts, like the login, are replaced bt a strange pixeled efect
[12:21] <|0_C1NZ4|> is I try startx, I can see the "shadow" of the upper bar
[12:22] <kinja-sheep> |0_C1NZ4|: ScrEEnshot?
[12:22] <|0_C1NZ4|> but the system is not effectively loaded
[12:22] <JONT> hi
[12:22] <|0_C1NZ4|> it's not possible use the system
[12:22] <|0_C1NZ4|> I'm another computer
[12:23] <knut> does anyone have a link to a guide in speeding up ubuntu 8.10?
[12:23] <kinja-sheep> jrib: How would I load a nEw configuration fil?
[12:23] <jrib> kinja-sheep: you just delete the configuration you made on the old account
[12:23] <lackas> hi how to extract nrg file in ubuntu hardy??? help... :(
[12:24] <tuxFan> hey guys whats de ctrl+alt+del for ubuntu if there is one
[12:24] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: the ubnutu page http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support said something about video support problem with nvidia, but I cannot understand well it...
[12:24] <jrib> tuxFan: what do you want it to do?
[12:24] <tuxFan> close programs
[12:24] <kinja-sheep> jrib: WhErE is that?  I don't want to dElEtE EvErything in ~/ dirEctory.
[12:24] <Threetimes> hi, how do i let TilEm and TiLP work together?
[12:24] <jrib> |0_C1NZ4|: what card do you have?
[12:24] <jrib> tuxFan: system -> administration -> system monitor.  But it's probably easier to just run « xkill » and then click on the offending program
[12:25] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: I don't know... I can still use the prompet
[12:25] <mefisto__> tuxFan: ctrl-esc ?
[12:25] <jrib> kinja-sheep: well first have you looked at the keyboard preferences and seen if anything obvious is wrong?
[12:25] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: can I see this with any command?
[12:25] <jrib> |0_C1NZ4|: lspci
[12:25] <|0_C1NZ4|> ok
[12:25] <tuxFan> run xkill can you explain.. srry newbie here
[12:25] <jrib> tuxFan: then just use the first method I gave you
[12:26] <mefisto__> tuxFan: just try ctrl-esc, I think that's what you want. a list of running processes
[12:26] <tuxFan> system monitor
[12:26] <tuxFan> sweet
[12:26] <tuxFan> thank you
[12:26] <jrib> !iso | lackas
[12:26] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: isa and pci bridge and vga cntroller point to VIA technologies Inc
[12:27] <lackas> thanks jrib  :)
[12:27] <jrib> |0_C1NZ4|: then it's not an nvidia issue :)  Search bugs.ubuntu.com for bugs about via I suppose.  I don't know anything about it
[12:27] <jrib> |0_C1NZ4|: you may want to use pastebinit to share /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the channel  as well
[12:28] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: ok, thankyou... I saw a similar problem in the forum, but it was about nvidia... but now I have plus info, thankyou!
[12:28] <coder2> Hello. Please help me wihh SAA7134L-based tuner - I cannot hear any sound from it, only video
[12:29] <coder2> I've already googled through many pages about it but nothing helped
[12:29] <kinja-sheep> jrib: EvErything sms to b in ordEr.
[12:31] <drive> kicce
[12:32] <tgpraveen> hey guys my bluetooth dongle used to work in hardy but doesnt work either in intrepid or jaunty
[12:32] <tgpraveen> 	<tgpraveen>	in jaunty/intrepid if boot with 2.6.24 kernel then everything works
[12:32] <tgpraveen> 	<tgpraveen>	i think i once saw a bug report related to this and many ppl were facing this problem
[12:33] <bazhang> tgpraveen, are you using jaunty now
[12:33] <tgpraveen> well both jaunty and intrepicd
[12:34] <bazhang> tgpraveen, what kernel is that from
[12:34] <tgpraveen> which i have 2.6.24 dont knw from which version. then i have 2.6.28 for jaunty and.27 for intrepid i think
[12:35] <tgpraveen> but only with.24 does my dongle work properly
[12:35] <bazhang> tgpraveen, what do you mean both jaunty and intrepid
[12:35] <tgpraveen> with others the dongle gets detected fine . but i cant send /receive files alwyas get errors.
[12:35] <tgpraveen> bazhang: on different pcs dude
[12:35] <brutus> Help! My vlc plays wmv video, but there is no sound...What should I do?
[12:36] <bazhang> tgpraveen, and how are you booting that kernel (where is it from)
[12:36] <coder2> brutus: Do you have more than one soundcards ?
[12:36] <administrator> i have a doubt related to wine. can anybody help me?
[12:36] <brutus> coder2, I have just one
[12:36] <user____> brutus: you could pastebin a debug log (start vlc on the command line)
[12:36] <tgpraveen> slection of kernel is frm GRUB
[12:36] <quibbler> !ask | administrator
[12:37] <coder2> brutus: Then, I cannot help, sorry
[12:37] <brutus> user____, Here is the output:  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `wmap'.
[12:37] <brutus> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[12:37] <bigboy> what doubt with wine?
[12:37] <administrator> i want to share a wine installed application for all the users
[12:37] <bazhang> tgpraveen, could we see your sources.list please and the output of uname -a on the system in question
[12:37] <bazhang> tgpraveen, paste.ubuntu.com (not in channel)
[12:37] <coder2> brutus: It just no suitable codec problem
[12:38] <brutus> coder2, I already have w32codecs installed (I believe only this package is required to play wmv...?)
[12:38] <mneptok> brutus: those have no bearing on VLC
[12:39] <brutus> mneptok, is it the vlc version then?
[12:39] <mneptok> brutus: VLC self-encapsulates all codecs it uses. if it doesn;t play the file now, it never will (unless Microsoft starts sharing Windows Media architecture)
[12:39] <administrator> i want to install watchtower library software in wine to be used by all users. can anybody help?
[12:39] <mneptok> brutus: no, it's the .wmv
[12:40] <mneptok> brutus: this may come as a surprise to you, but when Microsoft creates new formats for their media player they don;t run out and tell eveyone how it works and encourage them to use it for free.
[12:40] <brutus> mneptok, It plays the video but not the audio...and when run from the terminal it gives:  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `wmap'.
[12:40] <brutus> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[12:40] <mneptok> brutus: you download proprietary formats, you take yout chances.
[12:40] <quibbler> administrator: have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=917422
[12:41] <administrator> thank u
[12:41] <xiqtesttest> hello
[12:41] <mefisto__> brutus: have you tried it with a different player?
[12:41] <Excell> good/morning:   After trying to get firestarter to start on boot in sessions...when the machine boots an error says i do not have permissions....how do i fix this?
[12:41] <astralplaydoh> Hello.
[12:42] <Niphyr> Just quickly, what's the commandline command to bring up network interface info, again?
[12:42] <administrator> oh i tried it it doesnt work
[12:42] <astralplaydoh> ifconfig?
[12:42] <tuxFan> sudo firestarter --start --hidden  ,, I belive
[12:42] <tuxFan> in my case
[12:42] <ttl_> administrator: what distro?
[12:42] <Excell> i will try..thank you.
[12:42] <astralplaydoh> Anyone familiar with codeblocks and maybe file permissions and such?
[12:43] <tavish> hello, i continuosly have cpu temperature of 70 when the computer is idle, i have a desktop p4 3.0 HT on intel 915gav.
[12:43] <xiqtesttest> where to go if i have big pc problems?
[12:43] <huwenfeng> can i delete evolution from gnome???  Can i ? i never use that!!
[12:43] <syntax\> installed apache2, via sudo apt-get install apache2, then started the service via sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start, how come if i try to browse http://localhost on ff, nothings loading?
[12:43] <happypolla> I can't seem to be able to use themes I have downloaded (8.10)
[12:43] <happypolla> the themes are installed into my .themes
[12:43] <cristi_> hi guys
[12:43] <administrator> error getting .wine is not owned by u?
[12:43] <astralplaydoh> I'm trying to write a simple hello world script in codeblocks.  I make a C++ source file, then hit Build and Run.  It then tells me permission denied.  But it never ends up making an executable file.
[12:44] <|0_C1NZ4|> do someone here have a VIA video card?
[12:44] <Excell> sudo firestarter --start --hidden....starts the firewall....that is not my issue...my issue is to stop the firewall from starting in sessions permanently
[12:44] <astralplaydoh> it ends up saying sh: /home/***: Permission denied.  *** is where I saved the file.
[12:44] <comicinker> help please: I cannot boot the newest kernel because my ethernet card won't work with it. however, my wifi won't work with older kernel (sudo modprobe ath5k fails). how can register ath5k to my older kernel?
[12:45] <xiqtesttest> please i have big computer problem and you linux guys surely know...
[12:45] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my sy?stem
[12:45] <gionnico_> how much system memory do you use (excluding cached/buffered) with X+gnome logged in and nothing else?
[12:45] <user____> xiqtesttest: ask your question ;-)
[12:45] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:45] <oskar-> xiqtesttest:  what is the problem??
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <oskar-> cristi_:  stop it
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:46] <gionnico_> cristi_: youre ruining up our system
[12:46] <oskar-> cristi_:  thats off-topic
[12:46] <syntax\> don't flood.
[12:46] <gionnico_> how much system memory do you use (excluding cached/buffered) with X+gnome logged in and nothing else?
[12:46] <syntax\> for cryin out loud.
[12:47] <abe3k> hi guys, whats the easiest way of adding a directory to my system's PATH temporarily ?
[12:47] <cristi_> how can I ruin up my system?
[12:47] <bazhang> cristi_, stop that
[12:47] <happypolla> has anybody had issues trying to use downloaded themes on 8.10?
[12:47] <oskar-> cristi_:  stop it
[12:47] <gionnico_> cristi_: sudo rm -rf *
[12:47] <gionnico_> cristi_: sudo rm -rf /
[12:47] <Lint> cristi_, just wait and it ruin itself
[12:47] <cristi_> i want to know how to ruin my system!
[12:47] <brutus> mefisto__, this is weird but when I run videos on totem the video brightness dims
[12:47] <oskar-> Lint:  but only, if it is windows ;)
[12:48] <xiqtesttest> well yesterday my computer was liying on the floor and was overheat, now the usb ports not working anymore i tryed 3 different hubs
[12:48] <brutus> mefisto__, I have to restart xserver to regain brightness of video
[12:48] <xiqtesttest> im currently writing eith my cellphone
[12:48] <abe3k> guys, whats the easiest way of adding a directory to my system's PATH temporarily ?
[12:49] <syntax\> anyone?
[12:49] <Dillizar> can any body help me with my gstreamer
[12:49] <happypolla> abe3k: i think if you set it, but don't export it should only appear for your current session
[12:49] <bigboy> what does gstreamer do
[12:49] <jrib> abe3k: export PATH=/new/path:"${PATH}"     why though?
[12:49] <abe3k> happypola : yes thats what I want to do
[12:50] <abe3k> jrib : I want to compile google chrome only once and it needs some tools for it
[12:50] <abe3k> happypola : how do I do that ?
[12:50] <Juhaz> abe3k, waht jrib said.
[12:51] <abe3k> juhaz : but it has export , its allright ?
[12:51] <Juhaz> yes
[12:51] <abe3k> ok thanks dudes
[12:52] <xiqtesttest> ok if i start pc grub loads but cannot choose
[12:52] <xiqtesttest> then xub ibex starts but cant use mouse and kb
[12:54] <xiqtesttest> no 1 knows? =(
[12:54] <lstarnes> xiqtesttest: make sure your mouse and keyboard are plugged in correctly. It may take a few minutes for someone to come up with an answer
[12:54] <xiqtesttest> no no
[12:54] <dnet1> hfjujgjyly
[12:54] <dnet1> jgfugjugjg
[12:55] <dnet1> hduruthj
[12:55] <xiqtesttest> it makes light
[12:55] <dnet1> jsueudhf
[12:55] <dnet1> hcurjng
[12:55] <dnet1> bncjurhfn
[12:55] <dnet1> hhfhf]
[12:55] <bazhang> dnet1, stop
[12:55] <dnet1> kf
[12:55] <dnet1> jaku tak atu
[12:56] <syntax\> whats wrong with pidgin? it crashed like 5 times on me already
[12:57] <syntax\> and can anyone help me out with my apache problem?
[12:57] <furenku> hey!after a kernel upgrade to 2.6.27-3-rt in Intrepid my headphones don't work anymore, I'm using a Dell Inspiron 1520; does anybody know any possible workarounds?
[12:57] <oCean_> syntax\: Can you ping "localhost" ?
[12:58] <tavish> is there some problem with intel prescott? i have 70C cpu temperature on idle. is anyone else using it?
[12:58] <syntax\> oCean_: nope. that figures.
[12:58] <syntax\> what could be wrong :D im a bit lost
[12:59] <oCean_> syntax\: Can you ping 127.0.0.1 ?
[12:59] <syntax\> oCean_: still can't
[12:59] <MrDusty> Hey guys I Have Ubuntu 8.10 i want to turn it into a network gateway, can someone point me in the right direction please ?
[13:00] <Dillizar> can any body help me with my gstreamer
[13:00] <oCean_> syntax\: What, even 127.0.0.1 ? What does "ifconfig -a" show?
[13:00] <oCean_> syntax\: or start with "ifconfig lo" for your loopback device, the one with 127.0.0.1 on it
[13:01] <kay_> hey guys, i have no sound on Youtube, but when im listening toi music or watch some movies a have sound and image but no sound on youtube
[13:01] <syntax\> no ip's for lo,
[13:01] <lstarnes> syntax\: what about lo0?
[13:01] <xiqtesttest> kay theres volume control on youtube turn it on
[13:02] <syntax\> none sir, i got eth0, lo, pan0, vmnet1 and vmnet8 from vmware player, pan0 i dunno where it came from.
[13:02] <oCean_> MrDusty: See this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[13:03] <syntax\> oCean_, lstarnes : here's my lo http://pastebin.com/d53796fa7
[13:04] <oCean_> syntax\: not having a loopback address is a problem, since programs rely on it
[13:04] <syntax\> how can i resolve it? :|
[13:04] <erUSUL> !inetsharing | MrDusty
[13:04] <oCean_> syntax\: Is "iface lo inet loopback" in /etc/network/interfaces file?
[13:05] <xiqtesttest> aww
[13:05] <_dbd_l12> when trying to copy large files over ssh with scp i keep getting a random "corrupted mac on input"-error. The bug is described here. My question: when trying the workaround (ethtool -K rx off tx off) it seems my nic does not support this (operation not supported). Any ideas?
[13:05] <syntax\> nope, should i add that line?
[13:06] <_dbd_l12> forgot the link describing the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/60764
[13:06] <xiqtesttest> wheres a specialist irc channel
[13:06] <oCean_> syntax\: you should add 2 lines: first "auto lo", and then "iface lo inet loopback"
[13:06] <FreeFull> Hey, can someone tell me how to make midi out be always automatically connected to one of the timidity out ports?
[13:07] <syntax\> done hold on i might get dc, ill restart
[13:07] <FreeFull> I always have to do it manually
[13:08] <TuxSympathiser> Brasero refuses to copy some of the latest DVD's to iso, is there a better application to do this?
[13:09] <syntax\> oCean_: got it fixed, thanks a bunch :D
[13:09] <warren_> hi
[13:09] <oCean_> syntax\: ok!
[13:09] <oCean_> TuxSympathiser: might wanna try k3b
[13:10] <quibbler> FreeFull: right click a midi file choose properties-open with and choose timidity
[13:10] <syntax\> oCean_: i still have issues with pidgin sheesh it keeps on crashing :(
[13:10] <bazhang> TuxSympathiser, only thing that I know will do that is k9copy
[13:11] <Guest10542> hello, I'm trying to mount an ext4 disk under intrepid, what is the best way to proceed? I'd rather not set the test fs bit on true but use the stable ext4 code (I installed linux-backport-modules, but it doesn't seem to be in there?)
[13:11] <jeffchang> :)
[13:11] <oCean_> syntax\: even now, after loopback is configured? Maybe it crashing was related
[13:11] <FreeFull> quibbler: Em, that's not the thing. I use rosegarden and all the examples use midi-out for output. I want to configure Xubuntu so that all midi-out is forwarded to timidity without me having to open aconnectgui every time I restart.
[13:11] <mneptok> Guest10542: there is no native ext4 for Intrepid
[13:12] <Guest10542> mneptok: and can't I get it from backports?
[13:12] <mneptok> Guest10542: IOW, if you want to use ext4 extensively, upgrade all your machines to Jaunty.
[13:12] <mneptok> Guest10542: probably not.
[13:12] <quibbler> FreeFull:  then i don't know..i use timidity only to play midi files
[13:13] <FreeFull> quibbler: I'll ask somewhere else then
[13:13] <Guest10542> mneptok: and if I only wanted to do this 1 time, is installing the jaunty kernel an option (to remove it again later)
[13:13] <quibbler> FreeFull: good luck
[13:14] <ikbal> slt
[13:14] <Aokaado> got this problem on my laptop when installing 8.10 today, if i use volume buttons (just click once) the computer ends in an endless loop thinking i'm hogging the button (if i click the other one it thinks i'm holding that one down), most of the os is crashed but will fix after i relogg/reboot. worked last time i had ubuntu 8.10 (some months ago) and previous ubuntus (and currently in windows). know of any way to fix it ?
[13:14] <mneptok> Guest10542: you don't.
[13:14] <Guest10542> mneptok: I guess using the alpha live cd is the best option then
[13:15] <Guest10542> thank you
[13:15] <ajenbo> Help, i deleted my usb-rndis driver and cant figure out how to get it back, apt-get usb-rndis does nothing :(
[13:16] <syntax\> still it crashes @ oCean_
[13:16] <syntax\> sheesh
[13:17] <syntax\> i can't even kill it with killall pidgin, i have to specify the pid.
[13:17] <oCean_> syntax\: start it from cmdline, and see if there is any error output.
[13:17] <ManMachine> !static ip
[13:18] <ManMachine> !static
[13:18] <FreeFull> !ip
[13:18] <ManMachine> !ip
[13:18] <FreeFull> !networking
[13:18] <Guest10542> !ifconf
[13:18] <mneptok> ManMachine: what are you trying to do?
[13:18] <oCean_> !botabuse | FreeFull
[13:18] <syntax\> none, i am starting it from the command line pidgin &
[13:18] <ajenbo_> Help, i deleted my usb-rndis driver and cant figure out how to get it back, apt-get usb-rndis does nothing :(
[13:19] <ajenbo_> i'm on ubuntu 8.10
[13:19] <ManMachine> set up static ip for local network
[13:19] <mneptok> ManMachine: /etc/networking/interfaces
[13:19] <mneptok> meh, "network"
[13:19]  * mneptok needs coffee
[13:20] <ttl_> anybody knows what is anime?
[13:20] <SlimeyPete> japanese animation
[13:20] <mneptok> !offtopic > ttl_
[13:20] <DIFH-iceroot> ajenbo_: how do you delete it?
[13:21] <ajenbo> sudo rmmod rndis_host cdc_ether usbnet
[13:21] <ajenbo> sudo rm /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/usb/{rndis_host,cdc_ether,usbnet}.ko
[13:21] <happypolla> can somebody help me get install / use themes?
[13:21] <happypolla> -get
[13:21] <oCean_> !themes | happypolla
[13:22] <happypolla> ok, well I've installed some, but they don't show up in system > prefs > appearance
[13:22] <ajenbo> in 8.04 it was nesesery to remove and rebuild them but in 8.10 it isn't and apt-get cant find the source to do so either so now i'm stuck with no usb-rndis drivers :(
[13:22] <syntax\> oCean_: so far i run'd pidgin without "&" on the terminal its not crashing just yet.
[13:23] <ManMachine>  /etc/networking/interfaces >>  auto lo
[13:23] <ManMachine> iface lo inet loopback ??
[13:23] <duke_> hi
[13:23] <oCean_> syntax\: keep fingers crossed! Oh no, then there's no typing :)
[13:23] <duke_> is there a way to make ventrilo recognize push to talk when it's window is not active?
[13:23] <DIFH-iceroot> ajenbo_: hm, maybe using a live cd with same kernel-version, copy the *.ko files to your system and load it again (modprobe)
[13:23] <mneptok> ManMachine: that's the loopback interface. do you have an eth0?
[13:24] <duke_> !vent
[13:24] <syntax\> oCean_:  an error pop'd up
[13:24] <oCean_> ManMachine: See here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-address-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[13:24] <duke_> !ventrilo
[13:24] <syntax\> Window "Buddy List" is not responding.
[13:24] <syntax\> Cancel Force quit
[13:24] <syntax\> sheesh whats wrong -_-
[13:25] <ajenbo> DIFH-iceroot: thanks ill give that a try later today.
[13:25] <ManMachine> yes but it doesn't show in this file
[13:25] <oCean_> syntax\: Don't know offhand - Let me see if google knows anything about this
[13:26] <DIFH-iceroot> ajenbo: maybe someone here can send you the files with same kernel
[13:26] <syntax\> ok sir, ill visit the bathroom for a couple of minutes hehehehe
[13:26] <michael> Is the adobe flash plugin the best one available?
[13:26] <ManMachine> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:c0:a8:7d:18:ca
[13:26] <ManMachine>           inet addr:192.168.1.100  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[13:27] <DIFH-iceroot> michael: yes, because gnash is not working very well all the time, adobe-flashplugin = flash 10, flashplugin-nonfree=flash 9
[13:28] <jrib> michael: depends on what you mean by best.  It's probably the most compatible, but if you value freedom over compatibility, then gnash would be better...
[13:28] <michael> DIFH-iceroot: thanks, I used to use gnash but didn't have good luck with it
[13:28] <Lint> how can I make Xfce desktop to look, like Desktop?
[13:28] <michael> jrib: I just want it to work.
[13:28] <DIFH-iceroot> michael: because of that, adobe flash plugin is better
[13:28] <antigoal> @DIFH-iceroot: flashplugin-nonfree is Flashplayer 10 in Ubuntu 8.10
[13:29] <DIFH-iceroot> michael: its not free, but why using free software if it doesnt wrk...
[13:29] <DIFH-iceroot> antigoal: hm ok, in hardy its like i said
[13:29] <michael> what is the difference in 8.10 between adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-nonfree?
[13:29] <DIFH-iceroot> antigoal: adobe-flashplugin = backports in hardy
[13:31] <|0_C1NZ4|> hey, I'm in command line and I have a pendrive, i think ubuntu has mounted it, but I don't where. How can I find out this?
[13:31] <cdecarlo> hi, I want to rsync based on filename and checksum alone but I can't seem to get the options right, can I sync on checksum and filename only?
[13:31] <mneptok> |0_C1NZ4|: df -h
[13:31] <stew> |0_C1NZ4|: typing "mount" by itself would list all mounted volumes and their mount points
[13:32] <oCean_> syntax\: sorry, did not find anything that seems related.
[13:33] <MrDusty> DOes anyone use ubudsl ?
[13:33] <|0_C1NZ4|> mneptok: thank you! but so it seems it isn't mounted =T
[13:33] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | MrDusty
[13:34] <ttl_> hi everybody. For all who support linux and the open source community. You should use the linuxmail
[13:34] <ttl_> http://www.linuxmail.org/scripts/common/index.main?signin=1&lang=us
[13:34] <ttl_> it's faster, have more support, and more secure.
[13:35] <jrib> ttl_: please don't advertise here
[13:36] <MrDusty> ok sorry - I want to know how ubudsl connects and disconnects so that i can configure it to start on boot and THEN bring up my firewall.  At the moment it is doing its default action, system boots up, goes to X, I start ubudsl GUI to connect.  I know it just runs somthing like pppd connect script but im not sure how to find out how to connect/disconnect via command line ?
[13:37] <HammerHead66> ﻿ttl: I would like to use Evolution but I'm unable to set it up. And no one is able to help me with it. So I gave up on it long ago.
[13:37] <mneptok> MrDusty: are you using pppoe?
[13:37] <MrDusty> no
[13:37] <MrDusty> pppoatm its the UK
[13:38] <napzter> hi Guys,,,,,, help..... I want to update my metasploit ? how can i update my metasploit in Terminal? what commands shoul i used?
[13:38] <mneptok> pppoa?
[13:38]  * MrDusty nods
[13:38] <halfie> hi, i cannot mount my externall HDD using /etc/fstab .. if i try I get maintenance prompt at reboot because the mount point fails :( .. any ideas on  how do I solve the problem?
[13:38] <mneptok> MrDusty: "pppoeconf" is the CLI packges used for PPPoE. dunno about oA.
[13:39] <halfie> napzter: svn up
[13:39] <napzter> hi Guys,,,,,, help..... I want to update my metasploit ? how can i update my metasploit in Terminal? what commands shoul i used? please pm me
[13:39] <syntax\> oCean_: oh ok :9
[13:39] <bin1010> howdy all....I have a data hd that is ntfs, can I hook it up to ubuntu 8.10?  Can i add it to my fstab?
[13:39] <oCean_> bin1010: sure
[13:39] <oCean_> !ntfs | bin1010
[13:39] <napzter> halfie how? svn up metasploit?
[13:40] <MrDusty> mneptok, I am not asking that. PPP is configured, how do i manually connect rather than using the GUI?
[13:40] <halfie> napzter: goto metasploit folder and say "svn up" .. thats it.
[13:40] <mneptok> MrDusty: like i said, pppoeconf is the CLI package for PPPoE.
[13:40] <napzter> wow thankls
[13:40] <halfie> assuming you have subversion installed
[13:40] <MrDusty> hmm
[13:41] <oCean_> halfie: boot throws you at prompt? You use the external disk to boot ?
[13:42] <halfie> oCean_: no external drive just has my data.
[13:42] <bin1010> cool
[13:42] <oCean_> halfie: it should not throw a prompt at you, even if config is wrong
[13:43] <maio> hi, how should I swap caps/ctrl in ubuntu 8.10?
[13:43] <oCean_> halfie: You know how to use fstab file?
[13:43] <halfie> oCean_: but since mount fails for external drive I get maintenance prompt. any way to automatically mount my USB drives at boot? .. if they aren't there then don't try to mount
[13:43] <bin1010> i thought the linux <--> ntfs data usage was "iffy" at best because MS wasn't letting anyone know how they did things.  So that has changed now?
[13:43] <maio> update-manager removed swapcaps from my xorg.conf
[13:43] <furenku> hey! I have a Firewire Expresscard, but no idea how to mount it, could anybody give me a pointer on how to proceed after plugging it in?
[13:43] <halfie> oCean_: yep ..
[13:43] <jrib> maio: you can use system -> preferences -> keybord
[13:43] <erUSUL> bin1010: ntfs-3g over fuse have been rock solid for many people for a few years now
[13:44] <maio> jrib: I'm not using gnome
[13:44] <halfie> oCean_: for the time being I have done "noauto" and then mount it manually after the system boots :(
[13:44] <jrib> maio: continue...
[13:44] <maio> I want it system/Xorg wide
[13:44] <oCean_> halfie: ok. And when there's no "noauto", then it fails to boot? Strange
[13:44] <jrib> maio: anyway, you can use xmodmap
[13:45] <halfie> oCean: actually at boot USB scanning is delayed .. due to which mount fails ..
[13:45] <snooser> Hi there
[13:45] <oCean_> halfie: ah, I get it. So the actual question is, howto "mount if disk is there" :)
[13:46] <halfie> oCean_: yes yes :-) ...
[13:46] <tzd> hi, i've sucessfully set up an pxe boot server on ubuntu but i can't figure out how i get windows to pxe boot. Does anyone know of a guide or something please? Google only leads to to half made attempts :/
[13:46] <jrib> maio: though I'm not sure you can't use it in Xorg like you used to as well if you want.  Did you try?
[13:46] <ddc> Hey folks what's the name of that program that displays and installs proprietary drivers that are available?
[13:47] <jrib> ddc: jockey-gtk.  System -> Administration -> Hardware
[13:47] <t0ppy> Ciao a tutti da t0ppy !
[13:47] <kalidar> can anyone tel me why i cant play dvd's am i missing lib files or something? i tryed every media player
[13:48] <jrib> !dvd | kalidar
[13:48] <jrib> !it | t0ppy
[13:48] <oCean_> halfie: I only know of a _netdev option (fstab), that's for networkfilesystems - It's only try to mount that fs when the network is up & running
[13:48] <ddc> that's it, many thanks jrib
[13:48] <kalidar> anyone?
[13:49] <jrib> kalidar: I answered you
[13:49] <bazhang> kalidar, read the links
[13:49] <halfie> oCean: roger that. I am thinking of writing a custom script (inside rc.local).
[13:49] <kalidar> ok sure
[13:49] <Subdolus_> hey guys! I'm trying to set up SAMBA and everything seems fine, except I can't figure out how to set the root directory... Like when I access my SMB server from a Windows box; My Network shows the SMB server name, then you double click the SMB name and from in there, double click the share name
[13:49] <Subdolus_> I only have the one shared directory, so I want to take out that extra double click
[13:49] <Subdolus_> ...if any of that makes sense xD
[13:50] <Midwinter> b
[13:50] <bin1010> last ntfs question.  I am doing a lot of movie manipulations with huge files 1-19GB....would NTFS be suited for this type of work or would it be a bad idea.  Right now I have a disk that is formated ext3...ntfs would be nice if I needed to move it to Windows which is true only if ubuntu wont boot.....but if changing to NTFS would cause problems in dealing with and serving movie files, I will leave it as is.
[13:50] <Midwinter> ao
[13:50] <halfie> bin1010: use ext3 .. and then on windows use ext2fsd utility ...
[13:50] <oCean_> halfie: actually, I think hald should be able somehow. I mean, that is the daemon that maintains a database of dev connected in real-time. Like usb pendrive. But I'm not sure how
[13:51] <Subdolus_> so, nobody knows how to make a single share be the default when you
[13:51] <Subdolus_> so, nobody knows how to make a single share be the default when you \\Computer
[13:51] <Subdolus_> ?
[13:51] <zeltak2> hi all, anyone care to help a bit with 2 one line bash scripts im trying to create?
[13:52] <halfie> oCean_: yes right. but since USB scanning is taking time. the mount scripts fail. I will look into hal right now..
[13:52] <bin1010> i forgot to mention, this drive is a usb external drive
[13:52] <halfie> bin1010: same answer :)
[13:52] <bin1010> thanks halfie
[13:52] <jrib> zeltak2: just ask, but #bash is probably a better forum depending on what you are doing
[13:53] <zeltak2> thx jrib..i dont know much about bash and its really simple so i assume #bash is overkill but ill try
[13:53] <zeltak2> anyway one scirpt is to find all video files in a certain dir and move them to a single dir
[13:53] <monkey_d_luffy> After a 20 days uptime I rebooted my system... now I no longer have sound :(        alsaconf, amixer and alsamixer output:   http://pastebin.com/m325674e6                 pleaaaaaase help :(
[13:53] <halfie> bin1010: movies -> large data. ntfs-3g is slow (fuse). so if you do most of the work on linux, using ext3 makes sense
[13:53] <Subdolus> Anyone know how to make a single SMB share the default directory when you \\Ubuntuserver
[13:53] <Subdolus> instead of having to \\ubuntuserver and then \sharename
[13:54] <halfie> Subdolus: AFAIK even windows doesn't do it! ..
[13:54] <usha> hi, i'm new to this. so please advise if i'm doing something wrong. I wanted to know whether it's possible to set different wallpapers for each workspace?
[13:54] <Subdolus> halfie: you could be right actually
[13:54] <Subdolus> eek.
[13:54] <kalidar> anyone know where and how i change my bootloader to something alittle more graphical?
[13:55] <kalidar> thansk for the dvd info btw
[13:55] <zeltak2> i thought of this find /media/movt/ '(' -iname '*.avi' -o -iname '*.mpeg' -o -iname '*.divx' -o -iname '*.ogm' ')' -exec mv /media/mova {} \;
[13:55] <zeltak2> should that work>
[13:55] <halfie> I simply don't understand the craziness behind graphical bootloaders :) .. we see it for 5 seconds
[13:55] <Stylee> is there a way to create an NTFS partition within ubuntu?
[13:56] <nithin1> use partmagic
[13:56] <kalidar> yeah but i want a nicer bootloader lol
[13:56] <nithin1> or gparted
[13:56] <halfie> Stylee: mkfs.ntfs .. comes with ntfsprogs package
[13:56] <kalidar> figure sence im using a system thats totaly customizeable
[13:56] <nithin1> kalidar: u can edit boot loader image
[13:56] <Stylee> thanks
[13:56] <kalidar> i might as well customeize it lol
[13:56] <halfie> kalidar: right right.
[13:56] <kalidar> can i edit the bootloader options aswel and rename them nithinl?
[13:57] <MenZa> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30341 <- This is pretty old, but mnight still work, kalidar.
[13:57] <nithin1> kalidar:  yes use startup manager
[13:58] <kalidar> startup manager hmm kk never seen that befor
[13:58] <bin1010> thanks.  that makes me feel better :)....I also do backups on that disk and I always wonder how to do the restore since I have to load a new ubuntu install before I can see the backup to do the backup.  I just got a couple Sata to USB converters that work great, so I was thinking of partitioning the drive with gparted live CD, then putting both drives on windows box to do the restore, then toss it back in ubuntu box....Does this sound reason
[13:58] <kalidar> i cant find startup manager :(
[13:59] <voice5sur5> can anyone tell me the difference between halt and shutdown?
[13:59] <voice5sur5> kalidar use session
[13:59] <oskar-> voice5sur5:  read the manual
[13:59] <voice5sur5> oskar-, i did
[13:59] <voice5sur5> but i didn't understood
[13:59] <nithin1> kalidar try synaptic
[13:59] <kalidar> lol synaptic try session?
[14:00] <kalidar> no idea wht u mean guys
[14:00] <nithin1> voice5sur5: wat session ? to change boot loader
[14:00] <kalidar> aparently
[14:00] <kalidar> how i get to session
[14:00] <nithin1> kalidar use the synaptic package manager
[14:00] <kalidar> i just wana edit the backround and change the options avaiable
[14:00] <voice5sur5> kalidar, what kind of start up you mean?
[14:00] <kalidar> ok how i get synaptic
[14:01] <usha> can anyone tell me whether different wallpapers can be set for each workspace?
[14:01] <kalidar> bootloader
[14:01] <nithin1> kalidar:wat is ur os
[14:01] <oskar-> voice5sur5:  the manpage of halt says, that halt calls "shutdown -h". it seems to do nothing, if the runlevel is 0 or 6
[14:01] <kalidar> im on kubuntu with kde 4.1
[14:01] <voice5sur5> kalidar, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:01] <nithin1>  kalidar:do u know what a package manager is
[14:01] <voice5sur5> oskar-, in poweroff i fount that i can invok halt or shutdown
[14:02] <voice5sur5> so what is better
[14:02] <kalidar> package managr is my install program rite?
[14:02] <nithin1> voice5sur5:and the what stare at it
[14:02] <nithin1> yes khali
[14:03] <kalidar> ok im in my package manager
[14:03] <voice5sur5> kalidar i advise you to install gnome do
[14:03] <voice5sur5> install it first
[14:03] <kalidar> i have gnome installed
[14:03] <voice5sur5> it avoid you to seek for programs
[14:03] <kalidar> i have kde and genome
[14:03] <nithin1> voice5sur5:what
[14:03] <voice5sur5> kalidar, not grome but gnome do
[14:03] <voice5sur5> nithin1, sorry say it again
[14:04] <kalidar> ich im so confused
[14:04] <user____> voice5sur5: i once thought that shutdown would also power down the computer but it doesnt seem to be..
[14:04] <nithin1> kalidar: it is an application "gnome do"
[14:04] <nithin1> kalidar:
[14:04] <matx> should Ubuntu be refered as Ubuntu Linux or just Ubunut?
[14:04] <kalidar> ok sudo apt-get gnome do?
[14:04] <matx> *Ubuntu
[14:04] <mercurous23> hi guys
[14:04] <fotis> hi
[14:04] <nithin1> kalidar: now there is a package in synaptic called startupmanager using it u can edit ur boot screen
[14:05] <mercurous23> i am looking for a trivia channel
[14:05] <user____> matx: depends on the audience, both is correct brandwise afaik
[14:05] <bazhang> !trivia > mercurous23
[14:05] <voice5sur5> matx, same thing
[14:05] <fotis> how i share folder ?
[14:05] <mercurous23> !trivia
[14:06] <voice5sur5> !trivia > voice5sur5
[14:06] <voice5sur5> ok mr ubottu :)
[14:06] <matx> I see, ok
[14:06] <kalidar> thanks i found startup manager
[14:06] <voice5sur5> oh ubottu wanna be my girl friend ?!!
[14:06] <mercurous23> ubottu how do i join the channel.. im not sure how things work here
[14:06] <kalidar> XD
[14:06] <mercurous23> lol
[14:06] <kalidar> thanks guys
[14:06] <hanthana> hi, my friend is on Ubuntu 8.04 and he has intel 82845G VGA card, is there any guide for him
[14:07] <nithin1> wat is the prob
[14:07]  * hanthana is not a Ubuntu user, so this is the only way to help him
[14:07] <fotis> can someone help me?
[14:07] <hanthana> sorry, its working with 8.04 but not with 8.10
[14:07] <Daremonai> ubuntu 8.10 has protection against SYN_FLOODs right? it uses the SYN_COOKIES?
[14:07] <user____> hanthana: whats the problem?
[14:08] <ortsvorsteher> !details | fotis
[14:08] <nithin1> Daremonai: eelaboorate please
[14:08]  * hanthana is trying to translate his issue
[14:08] <hanthana> user____: seems like broken X
[14:08] <hanthana> :(
[14:09] <Bwen> I have a lil problem when trying to install libpcre3-dev on Kubuntu 8.10, says the package is broken. not just how to go about it. I never changed anything in the sources.list any ideas how to fix?
[14:09] <fotis> i just installed the server and i want to share a folder
[14:09] <nithin1> ***hanthana  wat are thse symptoms
[14:09] <mercurous23> do we have a fix for the broadcom wireless? I cant still get my wireless work on ubuntu 8.04
[14:09] <user____> !xorg | hanthana
[14:09] <Daremonai> nithin1, the SYN_FLOOD attack that DoSes a machine has been 'fixed' with a patch that sends SYN_COOKIES or something of that sorts to the machine sending SYN, if that machine does not answer to the cookie, the connection is dropped.
[14:09] <fotis> i installed the server desktop
[14:09] <nithin1> Daremonai: remedy?
[14:09] <ortsvorsteher> fotis: try using nfs to share folder to other linux systems, otherwise you can share by samba
[14:09] <Daremonai> nithin1, excuse me?
[14:09] <ortsvorsteher> !nfs | fotis
[14:10] <ortsvorsteher> !samba | fotis
[14:10] <dude7064> how can I get access to the source code of displayin Arabic text in Unix ?
[14:10] <hanthana> here is his xorg.conf http://fpaste.org/paste/6735
[14:10] <nithin1> Daremonai:then what cud be the solutin
[14:10] <gte351s> hi - I'm trying to config 2 screens on my machine, both 19" with best res 1280x1024. However, this resolution doesn't show in monitor-resolution-settings dialog. how do I config this?
[14:10] <Daremonai> nithin1, the SYN cookies is the solution.
[14:10] <user____> dude7064: do you know the package name of the software ?
[14:10] <Solvanora> is this a channel where i can ask for some basic help regarding gparted (the official gparted channel is almost empty)
[14:10] <user____> Solvanora: yes
[14:10] <fotis> what about sharing the folder by command?
[14:11] <dude7064> any software would do,,
[14:11] <ortsvorsteher> Solvanora: just ask and find out
[14:11] <dude7064> I need to understand the logic of how a specific task is done
[14:11] <nithin1> Bwen:type sudo apt-get install -f in terminal
[14:11] <hanthana> user____: shall i give him this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[14:11] <ortsvorsteher> fotis: read the documentation ubott gave you, you will find out how it works
[14:11] <nithin1> Daremonai:why doesnt the machine answer
[14:11] <user____> hanthana: yes, thats good
[14:11] <Bwen> nithin1: nothing was done :(
[14:11] <fotis> thanks for your help!
[14:11] <Daremonai> nithin1, the problem was that when a victim machine is hit with a lot of SYN connections from spoofed IPs, the victim's machine allocates the ressources/data structures needed for a new connection. However, since the attacker does not continue with the connection, those resources are lost and no one will use them, if you have a lot of connections, you will DoS the machine.
[14:12] <ortsvorsteher> you are welcome
[14:12] <hanthana> user____: is that enough ?
[14:12] <nithin1> Bwen:try to install it again
[14:12] <Yannou> hi
[14:12] <Daremonai> nithin1, if you attack with spoofed IPs like normal attackers do, the targetted machine answers the spoofed IP, however that IP does not exist and will not answer back.
[14:12] <Yannou> is there some way to enable the .Trash-$USER folder into ntfs removable devices under ubuntu intrepid ?
[14:12] <Bwen> libpcre3-dev: Depends: libpcre3 (= 7.6-2.1ubuntu1) but 7.8-2ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 is to be installed
[14:13] <nithin1> Daremonai: thanks i get that\
[14:13] <Bwen> then stops saying Broken packages :S
[14:13] <Solvanora> ok, here goes, im using the newest gparted livecd on my Full HD tv, and it configures the resolution correctly, but the font size is like 4pt, way too small. The last few hours ive searched everywhere how to change it. But this problem seems to be so simple, that its hard to find any help
[14:13] <Daremonai> nithin1, alright :) but i still didn't get an answer to my question :P
[14:13] <mercurous23> guys can you help me get my wireless work? i am using ubuntu 8.04 on my hp dv2415nr
[14:13] <user____> dude7064: you need to name the program or component (library) you want to evaluate. the os and the apps can range in the hundreds of millions of lines.
[14:13] <kalidar> hmmm the startup manager only lets me change some minor stuff and wont let me add backround or change name of bootdisk
[14:13] <kalidar> any other ideas?
[14:14] <nithin1> Daremonai: how do u fake mail .web tutorials dont work .i get the idea but no use
[14:14] <ortsvorsteher> !wlan | mercurous23
[14:14] <ortsvorsteher> mercurous23: look at the docs, may there is your solution. :)
[14:14] <user____> Solvanora: ok, the gparted live-cd is based on debian? (mine is, but i could very well not have the latest version)
[14:14] <kalidar> you wana send ghostmail nithinl?
[14:15] <mercurous23> i've been reading the documentations.. but no luck
[14:15] <kalidar> lookup ghostmale hack XD it should exist for linux aswell
[14:15] <kalidar> ghostmail
[14:15] <ortsvorsteher> !details | mercurous23
[14:15] <mercurous23> okay
[14:15] <ortsvorsteher> !nmi
[14:16] <Solvanora> @ User____ I'm not sure on which it is based, im very new too the open source in general.
[14:17] <Guest79479> ciao
[14:17] <mistako> Hi
[14:18] <DIFH-iceroot> mistako: hi
[14:18] <mistako> who is in charge here??
[14:19] <nithin1> ur daddy
[14:19] <nithin1> ie me
[14:19] <fotis> does anyone know if i can have Oracle and mySQL on the same server?
[14:19] <ortsvorsteher> fotis: sure, why not?
[14:19] <irbdavid> Can anything be done to speed up flash etc with a GMA 950 chip?
[14:20] <kristian_> anyone know how i can convert ntsc to pal on ubuntu? :-)
[14:20] <irbdavid> or is a case of "sucky drivers - deal with it"
[14:20] <matx> flash doesn't use graphics drivers though?
[14:20] <jtaji> mistako: the people in #ubuntu-ops are
[14:20] <Solvanora> how to private message someone?
[14:20] <matx> /msg
[14:20] <mistako> jtaji: thanks!
[14:21] <fotis> how can i find and install oracle for ubuntu-server?
[14:21] <ortsvorsteher> !pm | Solvanora
[14:21] <oskar-> fotis:  ask the vendor
[14:22] <mistako> anyone from russia??
[14:23] <Solvanora> ah ok obottu, but when someone talks to me, their message somehow it lights up in red, is that a private message then?
[14:23] <ortsvorsteher> !ru | mistako
[14:23] <fotis> sorry first time using this chat, who's the vendor and do i send a pm or through the channel?
[14:23] <lstarnes> Solvanora: that is not a private message as it is sent through the channel.  It is often called a highlight
[14:23] <lstarnes> fotis: just your questions in this channel
[14:23] <Solvanora> ok! how do i do so?
[14:23] <freddyav> Hi all
[14:23] <lstarnes> Solvanora: like this
[14:23] <mercurous23> ubottu i could see my wireless router but I could not connect into it. I am using ubuntu 8.04
[14:24] <lstarnes> Solvanora: just say the other person's nick
[14:24] <lstarnes> Solvanora: or try typing the first couple letters of it then pressing tab
[14:24] <fotis> does anyone know how i can install and find Oracle for ubuntu-server?
[14:24] <Solvanora> lstarnes, nice!
[14:24] <Solvanora> lstarnes, does it light up for you now?
[14:24] <freddyav> I'm in the process of converting a 32 bit app/library to 64 bit but I've run in to some problems. Is there a specific channel where I might get help?
[14:24] <mercurous23> 1:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02)
[14:24] <lstarnes> Solvanora: yes
[14:25] <Solvanora> lstarnes, ty!
[14:25] <lstarnes> fotis: ubuntu has no packages in its repositories for orcale.  Try checking oracle's website
[14:25] <fotis> Okay, thanks
[14:25] <gte351s> how can I add a missing screen resolution option (1280x1024) to the resolution settings dialog?
[14:26] <Solvanora> ok, here goes, im using the newest gparted livecd on my Full HD tv, and it configures the resolution correctly, but the font size is like 4pt, way too small. The last few hours ive searched everywhere how to change it. But this problem seems to be so simple, that its hard to find any help. So how do i change the font size, without the ability to read the menu's in which it probably possible to change the font size?
[14:27] <lstarnes> fotis: oracle does offer versions of their database servers for linux
[14:27] <mercurous23> anyone using dv2415nr here
[14:27] <tq|Memphis> i want to make my Tuna227 directory to Tuna227.rar file , how can i do that @ubuntu
[14:28] <tq|Memphis> i want to make my Tuna227 directory to Tuna227.rar file , how can i do that @ubuntu
[14:28] <tq|Memphis> i cant?
[14:29] <fosco_> yes you can
[14:29] <lstarnes> !rar | tq|Memphis
[14:29] <fosco_> install rar command
[14:29] <tq|Memphis> !info unrar-free
[14:29] <mercurous23> whois aryah47
[14:29] <lstarnes> tq|Memphis: there are also other free compression formats such as tar.gz, tar.bz2, .7z, and .zip
[14:30] <tq|Memphis> hmm its different components rar and unrar
[14:30] <Bwen> I'm having problem installing libpcre3-dev it says: libpcre3-dev: Depends: libpcre3 (= 7.6-2.1ubuntu1) but 7.8-2ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 is to be installed
[14:31] <militant> alright folks.  i have apache up, and i'm running gallery2.  when i try to go to the main gallery page it's not executing the php script, it's simply offering to download.  it was working before.  have i somehow screwed up php or perl on the server?
[14:31] <Bwen> militant: go to #apache
[14:31] <militant> figured
[14:31] <Bwen> apparently not
[14:32] <militant> Bwen  lol just figured i'd ask here since i was already here.
[14:32] <Bwen> you have trouble moving? O.o
[14:33] <sonia_> hi all
[14:34] <sonia_> I got an eeepc 1000h, instaled an ibex version, is there an offical way to get wireless working?
[14:34] <militant> Bwen  no, but i wasn't sure whether it was apache specficially, or a package i had flubbed in ubuntu, or what.  was worth a shot.  :P
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> sonia_: run lspci
[14:34] <aspoor> lol
[14:34] <Bwen> anyone can help me fix my libpcre3-dev problem? I looked up and it got a version from the security repository and it is suggested to downgrade it to be able to install libpcre3-dev. but I dont even know how to do that :(
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> sonia_: one line will identify the device
[14:34] <kbrosnan> I'm looking for a program that will detect corrupt fonts for linux, any suggestions?
[14:34] <sonia_> I 01:00.0 Network controller: RaLink Device 0781
[14:34] <noob_M> helo
[14:34] <aspoor> ok this is what I have to say this morning.
[14:35] <sonia_> Acedip, that one?
[14:35] <sonia_> I think so
[14:36] <natrixnatrix89> sonia_: ive got an eeepc too
[14:36] <natrixnatrix89> with a ralink wifi card too
[14:36] <natrixnatrix89> I got it working easily
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> sonia_: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/64171
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> sonia_: does    sudo iwlist scan    show APs?
[14:37] <natrixnatrix89> download the driver and firmware from http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[14:37] <sonia_> ActionParsnip,  Interface doesn't support scanning. for every card
[14:37] <natrixnatrix89> and follow the instructions
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> sonia_: ok, use the guide in the post i gave you
[14:38] <sonia_> ActionParsnip, reading
[14:39] <natrixnatrix89> sonia_: try download the driver and firmware from http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[14:40] <Solvanora> Recapitulation, how can i change the font size in the CLI of the gparted livecd?
[14:41] <sonia_> natrixnatrix89, ok
[14:41] <fotis> Searched Oracle site and cannot find how to download Oracle for free, anyone have any other options for downloading Oracle?
[14:41] <cardona507> hello
[14:41] <sonia_> I have a fan problem too I think
[14:41] <sonia_> annooying
[14:41] <sonia_> everytime I touvh the key bord it makes noise and disappears
[14:41] <sonia_> all day long
[14:42] <sonia_> :(
[14:42] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[14:42] <cardona507> I am new to ubuntu, I just got a disc 3 days ago.
[14:42] <silv3r_m00n> when we install a software by compiling it using configure make and make install then after installation the files that it copies... where are those instructions written i.e. which file will be copied where
[14:43] <mib_gz7eml> I need to edit this video, but it keeps getting the audio cut off at the ed
[14:43] <mib_gz7eml> end
[14:43] <Solvanora> cardona507, you will not regret any effort you decide to explore ubuntu's infinite possibilities (newbee myself)
[14:44] <HammerHead66> ﻿Solvanora:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Patches?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=live+cd+updates&titlesearch=Titles this should help you
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: that will be defined in the makefile but the files will be copied where they need to be including a binary in /usr/bin
[14:44] <fotis> Does anyone know where to download a free version of Oracle?
[14:44] <ufg3456> hej poklikacie?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: so you can simply execute the app as normal
[14:44] <cardona507> so far I think that it is amazing. I am quite impressed actually. It is way more capable than I had expected. how long have you been on ubuntu solvanora?
[14:44] <fosco_> !ot | fotis
[14:45] <Jeruvy> !ot | fotis
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: you could make a deb from the compiled files to ease uninstallation
[14:45] <fotis> Thanks, sorry!
[14:45] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip: but like after the make process files are generated so there shud be some instructions in one of the files regarding where all the files shud go
[14:45] <HammerHead66> ﻿fotis: in the add remove programs
[14:45] <coopcooper> !dongs
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: thats handled by: sudo make install
[14:46] <Solvanora> cardona507, since 6 months i estimate, and im still waiting when the price has to be paid for so much freedom (it just feels weird to have lost the microsoft shackles)
[14:47] <silv3r_m00n> make install ... so what exactly does make install do
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: the makefile will say where the files go
[14:47] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[14:47] <marechal> Hello. I have a problem with my wireless mouse. When I use the scroll-wheel, the volume goes up and down instead of scrolling. When I press the scroll-wheel, no middle mouse-click is executed. How can I fix this?
[14:47] <silv3r_m00n> so the makefile has a record of all files that shall be created ?
[14:47] <cardona507> Solvanora, no doubt...
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: if you run the command too, you will see cp commands
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: yep, its all in there
[14:47] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip: the make process consist of compiles and builds and links and create executables right ?
[14:48] <HammerHead66> ﻿marechal: lmao I don't know but it sounds funny
[14:48] <wintermute2012> oh wow never used pidgin for irc before O_O
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: the make process combines librarys with source code and the options in the configure file to make a binary
[14:48] <marechal> HammerHead66: It's not funny but incredibly annoying
[14:48] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip: apart from binary what other kind of files can make create
[14:49] <HammerHead66> ﻿wintermute2012: how do you like using it pidgin?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: dll files, library files (like .so)
[14:49] <Solvanora> cardona507, i feel like shouting to everyone that they are insane when they protect their windows, but i guess if you shout against slaves that they are free, they will not roam free even when they can
[14:49] <wintermute2012> eh its not bad im used to xchat though
[14:49] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip: tell me 1 thing... there are many dev packs I installed from synaptic but I see that most of them copy .h files mostly
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> wintermute2012: there are tonnes of irc clients
[14:50] <silv3r_m00n> .h files have the function declaration where are the functiond definitions
[14:50] <silv3r_m00n> function*
[14:50] <silv3r_m00n> there shud be something like a .a or .lib file
[14:50] <wintermute2012> ActionParsnip: i know this ive been on irc since 93 :)
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: yes as those are used to use the functionality of the library
[14:50] <HammerHead66> ﻿marechal: I wasn't trying to make fun at you it is just a funny thing. It's really a bad problem tho
[14:50] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip: as you said earlier shud I install like this 1. ./configure 2. make 3. make deb package 4. install from the deb package ?
[14:50] <sonia_> ActionParsnip, problem solved thx
[14:50] <wintermute2012> make
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> wintermute2012: i use pidgin for irc as i use nearly all its protocols so a seperate client just for irc is none sensical to me
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> sonia_: np
[14:51] <sonia_> ActionParsnip, it's a debian âckage though
[14:51] <sonia_> no probleem with ubuntu updates
[14:51] <sonia_> ?
[14:51] <wintermute2012> well i dont know how it is for admin or opping or ircopping
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> sonia_: if it works i wouldnt question it
[14:51] <wintermute2012> i guess its alright for general use
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> sonia_: if theres a package for ubuntu some place, i'd use that and repeat the process
[14:52] <sonia_> ActionParsnip, ok
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> wintermute2012: depends on your needs
[14:52] <Solvanora> HammerHead66, that link doesnt come up with any results?
[14:52] <FunnyClown> hallo
[14:52] <FunnyClown> hello
[14:52] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip: what tool can I use to make deb packages ?
[14:53] <marechal> HammerHead66: Got it fixed. Apparently some strange combination of buttons on my mouse acts as a sort of CapsLock, changing the function of all the buttons. Annoying if you don't know about it!
[14:53] <HammerHead66> ﻿wintermute2012: it's great when you have a lot of accounts with diffrent providers
[14:53] <sonia_> ActionParsnip, thx again bye
[14:53] <newmember> can different partitioning layouts have an effect on disk access ?
[14:54] <Solvanora> Recapitulation: how can i change the font size in the CLI of the gparted livecd?
[14:54] <HammerHead66> ﻿marechal: thanks for the info man I'll try to help the next guys when they have the same problem
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92016
[14:54] <marechal> HammerHead66; No problem :-)
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> newmember: absolutely
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> newmember: how the data is laid on the drives can affect how it is read
[14:55] <newmember> Suggestions?   I have 4x1000G drives SATA 7500rpm
[14:55] <newmember> I am finding that the read speed is very slow
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> newmember: you could delve into hdparm
[14:55] <_Whipper> newmember: bigger fuse ?-)
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> newmember: or use raid
[14:56] <HammerHead66> ﻿newmember: how is it set-up in terms of hardware?
[14:56] <newmember> Quadcore CPU
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> newmember: how much ram, what speed and type cpu?
[14:56] <newmember> 8Gig RAM
[14:56] <wintermute2012> hm, has anyone tried quakelive through wine yet?
[14:56] <newmember> 2.4Ghz CPU
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> newmember: and what config are the drives in?
[14:57] <HammerHead66> ﻿newmember: the hard drive to the motherboard
[14:57] <Dante123>  which is better:  256 mb ram PC133 or 320 mb ram (made up of pc133 and pc100 sticks)???
[14:57] <newmember> ActionParsnip: how can I look that up?
[14:57] <kc8pxy> anyone here well versed in netbooting a livecd?  I'm isntalling ubuntu that way, and it's frozen.   it's "configuring apt" and "scanning the CD-ROM" ..    the cd rom is on the nfs mount,   is it ok for my to kill the installer? or should i wiggle bast this somehow?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> newmember: you set it up, if you are using raid, you will have configured it
[14:57] <Jeruvy> Dante123: is this a history lesson?  Thats some old ram.
[14:57] <mhall119> newmember: have you tried mounting it with noatime?
[14:57] <NotADJ> Anyone ever see: Kernel: [    4.566552] /build/buildd/linux-2.6.27/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c: couldn't find an input interrupt endpoint
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> Dante123: i'd go for more ram, if the board is 133mhz then stick with pure 133 as your 100 stick will make it run at 100
[14:58] <newmember> Gigabyte motheboard EP43-UD3L
[14:58] <HammerHead66> ﻿newmember: go to add/remove programs and add Sysinfo it will tell you everything about your hardware
[14:58] <Dante123> Jeruvy (friends old computer- kids use it and I am installing xubuntu)
[14:58] <Dante123> ActionParsnip board is 133 mhz
[14:58] <Laeborg> I have some problems with my Logitech diNovo (Bluetooth) mouse and keyboard. Everytime I reboot my computer, I need to unplug the bluetooth adaptor and plug it in again.
[14:58] <newmember> sorry no X on this computer, its all CLI
[14:59] <Solvanora> how can i change the font size in the CLI of the gparted livecd?
[14:59] <_Whipper> Laeborg: not so unexpected..
[14:59] <HammerHead66> O ok
[14:59] <newmember> mhall119: no
[14:59] <Jeruvy> Dante123: ah, ActionParsnip is right, mate them and it'll be slower.  But I doubt it'd make much of an impact and 256 is pretty minimum these days with gnome
[14:59] <Laeborg> _Whipper: What can I do about it ?
[14:59] <kc8pxy> Dante123:  I'd got for 320, but really, i'd drop a full 128 in and bump it to 384.  ubuntu likes 384 or more..  i install hardy all the time to that..  but it hates 256.  and yes, I'm used to those ram types.
[14:59] <mhall119> newmember: using noatime can sometimes speed up reads, because it's not also trying to write access time to the metadata
[14:59] <user____> Solvanora: which version of the live-cd are you using?
[15:00] <_Whipper> Laeborg: just wait.. the boot takes a bit longer.. in my case anyway..
[15:00] <HammerHead66> ﻿newmember: is the HD hooked up by SATA cable or the other one?
[15:00] <newmember> mhall119: ah
[15:00] <newmember> SATA cable
[15:00] <_Whipper> Laeborg: or just do what i do, plug it after grub has started his thing :)
[15:00] <Laeborg> I can wait and wait and wait nothing happens, before I've unplug the bluetooth adaptor and plug it in again.
[15:00] <HammerHead66> in the one slot for it
[15:01] <sjokkis> hi. i'm having some problems using my altgr key. xev says that it's mapped to "ISO_Level3_Shift". is there some global way of remapping it to altgr, or do i need to use ~/.Xmodmap?
[15:01] <Dante123> kc8pxy Jeruvy I have installed xubuntu and it runs allright with the 256 mb.  I will try instead to get another 256 mb for this old pc if I can.  The pc100 I just happened to have lying around.  Thanks for input.
[15:01] <HammerHead66> ﻿newmember: in the one slot for it?
[15:01] <newmember> I noticed when I was moving files today to another computer, the slow one maxed DSK access and the faster one was running at 20%
[15:02] <kc8pxy> Dante123:  you don't happen to be close to a freegeek,  do you?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> newmember: if you want more speed from your drives i'd suggest raid of some kind
[15:02] <newmember> There are 6 slots for SATA cables connections
[15:02] <newmember> I am usign 4 of them
[15:02] <Solvanora> user____, 0.4.3-2, its the latest stable
[15:02] <sjokkis> the hell. altgr shows as iso_level3_shift on the laptop i have where altgr works too. this is strange
[15:02] <newmember> ActionParsnip: I think thats a good idea, is software RAID anygood?
[15:02] <user____> Solvanora: ok, thanks
[15:03] <newmember> ActionParsnip: or should I go HArdware RAID
[15:03] <HammerHead66> ﻿newmember: I am unsure then man. sorry I couldn't help out
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> newmember: i dont rate it myself but it wiill give you extra speed
[15:03] <mhall119> Dante123: did you try Qimo?
[15:04] <newmember> I thought if I had created LVM between two drives that would have sped things up, but it does not seem to be that way
[15:04] <lucijan> hi is there a way to install the reportsplugin for kexi?
[15:05] <XiXaQ> I'm trying to setup internet using a bluetooth connection to my phone. Using USB, it's extremely easy to setup the connection, but using bluetooth seems more difficult. I've been searching the net, but all guides are for older versions of Ubuntu. Can someone help me with this?
[15:05] <Slonkie> Hi would anyone be able to help me to mount my windows shares?
[15:05] <knutlinux> what it the most skinnable media player for ubuntu?
[15:06] <phanter> knutlinux: maybe you can have a look at songbird (i believe that is the name)
[15:06] <knutlinux> phanter i want to mae skin myself..
[15:06] <mhall119> Slonkie: network shares?
[15:06] <Dante123> kc8pxy I is one!
[15:06] <kc8pxy> Slonkie:  your ubuntu does't seem them automagically?
[15:06] <mhall119> knutlinux: xmms I think
[15:07] <kc8pxy> Dante123:  which freegeek are you with?
[15:07] <archman> Can xubuntu installed from scratch use kde and gnome apps?
[15:07] <HammerHead66> ﻿archman: both
[15:07] <mhall119> archman: yes, it will just install the KDE and Gnome libs that are needed by the apps
[15:07] <Bwen> how do I downgrade libpcre3 so I can install libpcre3-dev? i'm in Kubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) when I try to force a version (previous one) to libpcre3 it wants to remove a bunch of shit. how can I install libprce3-dev!?
[15:07] <Slonkie> yes mhall119 , network shares
[15:07] <Dante123> mhall119 yes, and it looks really good for the younger set.....like some of my nieces and nephews.  However these girls a getting older next year grade 8 and grade 6 so I opted for full xubuntu. But will consider qimo in the future for younger set.
[15:08] <mhall119> Slonkie: have you installed Samba?
[15:08] <Slonkie> yes
[15:08] <Slonkie> but i've got no clue how to use it
[15:08] <mhall119> Dante123: you're a part of freegeek?
[15:08] <archman> HammerHead66, mhall119, without some tons of "unneded" apps for it's "dependencies"?
[15:08] <phanter> I have problems opening a windows share (shared via Samba on a Debian machine). The client uses ubuntu 8.10. I get no error, but when entering my username/password, the same username/password dialogue shows again.
[15:08] <Dante123> kc8pxy  Actually, I have no idea what you are talking about.  I'm just a geek.  What is a freegeek?
[15:08] <DeeVoc> has anyone figured out a decent upnp server in linux? Fuppes seems to be the best non-pay solution, but it's still a bit quirky. Twonky is great but unfortunately it's a paid app
[15:08] <mhall119> archman: you'll get libs, but not other apps
[15:08] <kc8pxy> Dante123:  :):)   can you youtube?
[15:09] <Dante123> kc8pxy yeah
[15:09] <Dante123> hang on...
[15:09] <HammerHead66> ﻿archman: I'm not sure myself but I know you can do it
[15:09] <kc8pxy> Dante123:  /msg ok?
[15:09] <archman> mhall119, cool! Thinking about reinstalling xubuntu from scratch...using gnome at the moment
[15:09] <mhall119> Dante123: freegeek is an organization that recycles old computers by putting Linux on them and giving them back out in their communities
[15:09] <newmember> thanks have a good day all
[15:10] <mhall119> HeliOS does the same, as does my organization QuinnCo
[15:10] <archman> mhall119, also: using alternate install will prevent from installing apps that I don't want?
[15:10] <mhall119> archman: no, alternate install just uses the text based debian installer instead of Ubiquity
[15:10] <militant_> i used to do that privately.  worked at a company that was throwing away hundreds of p2's and p3's so i rescued 72 of them, threw linux on them, and gave tehm away to local schools and things
[15:10] <archman> mhall119, 'cause Desktop cd installs tons of crap with it...
[15:10] <mhall119> you'll get the same apps either way
[15:10] <mitesh> how do we dock evolution to system tray?
[15:11] <archman> mhall119, oh! :(, ok
[15:11] <mhall119> mitesh: you don't
[15:11] <kc8pxy> mhall119:  you've been to one?   that description, while accurate,  doesn't sound adequate :-(
[15:11] <user____> Solvanora: ok, booting iso, lets meet in #gparted
[15:11] <mhall119> kc8pxy: no, that's just my understanding of freegeek
[15:11] <mitesh> mhall119, dont? what do u mean?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mitesh: use alltray
[15:11] <mhall119> unfortunately I haven't found a chapter in my area
[15:11] <archman> mhall119, can I remove Gnome?
[15:11] <user____> Solvanora: whats the channel of #gparted?
[15:11] <mhall119> mitesh: why do you want evolution in the systrar?
[15:11] <mhall119> archman: yes
[15:11] <mindheavy> i have a usb card reader plugged in that i'm currently reading a sandisk card from, i just plugged a digital camera in and im trying to view its contents, but when i open the camera folder that it brings up on the desktop, its showing me the same contents as whats on the sandisk card in the card reader? anyone know whats going on here?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> mhall119: you can use alltray to dock ANY app (except terminal)
[15:12] <HammerHead66> ﻿archman: I use Gnome it works great for me but that is my choice.
[15:12] <Solvanora> user____, its on irc.gnome.org #gparted
[15:12] <mhall119> ActionParsnip: thanks, didn't know that
[15:12] <archman> HammerHead66 cool ;)
[15:12] <mhall119> personally, I have enough icons in my systray already
[15:12] <mitesh> mhall119, place is occupied by it in taskbar
[15:12] <kc8pxy> mhall119:  would you happen to know much about using pxe to install from a livecd over the network, using nfs for the cd?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> mhall119: its really good for thunderbird so it stays running but doesnt clutter the app list tray
[15:12] <mhall119> kc8pxy: no, I haven't used pxe in years, and I've forgotten just about everything
[15:13] <mhall119> mitesh: just close it
[15:13] <kc8pxy> mhall119:  :-(
[15:13] <CarlFK> kc8pxy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[15:13] <kc8pxy> mhall119:  about freegeek,   thought of founding one?
[15:13] <archman> mhall119, how much space on disk occupies gnome DM, and is there any use do uninstall it?
[15:13] <mhall119> unlike Thunderbird, evolution doesn't need to be running to work
[15:13] <mhall119> kc8pxy: I have a similar charity already founded: www.quinncoincorporated.org
[15:13] <Daemon_Byte> everything was running smoothly but at some point during implementing ssl ubuntu 8.04 has stopped letting me shut down mysql. it's running ok but /etc/init.d/mysql stop gets me an error. I have the same my.cnf file running on debian and that works fine
[15:14] <mitesh> mhall119, evolution closes
[15:14] <Daemon_Byte> anyone any ideas where to start? syslog gives me nothing
[15:14] <kc8pxy> CarlFK:  i have it "working",  i got through partitioning, and most of the install through ubiquity, but when it comes to "scanning the cdrom",  it hung.   there IS not CDrom in a network install.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> mitesh: sudo apt-get install alltray; alltray evolution &
[15:14] <CarlFK> kc8pxy: did you export the files or the .iso"?
[15:14] <mhall119> mitesh: there is evolution-data-server that is always running, even when evolution itself is closed, that's all you need
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> mhall119: well something has to run for it otherwise there would be nothing connecting to whatever it uses to work
[15:15] <kc8pxy> CarlFK:  the files, into the nfs root.
[15:15] <mitesh> mhall119, but i am not notified of new mails :(
[15:15] <mhall119> ActionParsnip: evolution-data-server
[15:15] <Jeruvy> Daemon_Byte: check the mysql error log, look in my.cnf if you are not sure where it's located
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> mhall119: ahhh, data-server
[15:15] <mhall119> mitesh: apt-get install mail-notification
[15:15] <archman> ActionParsnip, how to remove Gnome WM? And is there really any use uninstalling it? Or better leave it installed.
[15:15] <CarlFK> kc8pxy:  sounds like you didn't  use the network linux/initrd
[15:15] <mhall119> it'll sit in the systray and notify you of new email
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> !purekde | archman
[15:15] <mhall119> archman: Gnome is more than just a WM
[15:16] <Gijssiee> heey
[15:16] <archman> mhall119, yeah, that's what I thought...
[15:16] <mitesh> mhall119, but ubuntu already has a indicator applet?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> mhall119: gnome is a DE, metacity is the WM ;)
[15:16] <archman> mhall119, guess it has many apps corresponding to it and thuss the depencencies...
[15:17] <mhall119> mitesh: evolution has one, but it has to be running to work
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> archman: you could just install a different WM and leave the system as is
[15:17] <mhall119> mail-notification doesn't need evolution running
[15:17] <Gijssiee> I have a problem with wubi
[15:17] <Daemon_Byte> Jeruvy: you mean the setting in my.cnf called log? I have that turned off as it said it was a performance killer. If I turn it on and reboot the server will it be likely to tell me the cause?
[15:17] <tq|Memphis> how can i end my ping process?
[15:17] <kc8pxy> CarlFK:  i had to alt-enter past the squashfs hang.
[15:17] <tq|Memphis> its not stopping
[15:17] <tq|Memphis> :D
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> tqlmctrl + c
[15:17] <mhall119> tq|Memphis: ctrl-C
[15:17] <archman> ActionParsnip; actually done that today, testing xfce, it's great :)
[15:17] <XiXaQ> kwin and metacity are the non-composite window managers for KDE and GNOME, respectively. Compiz is the compositing WM for both KDE and GNOME.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> archman: i like lxde myself
[15:18] <tq|Memphis> mhall119, ty
[15:18] <capitaozap> Olá pessoal
[15:18] <capitaozap> tem algum brasileiro aqui?
[15:18] <archman> ActionParsnip; xfce you mean? :D
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> !brasil
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> !info lxde
[15:18] <capitaozap> ??????
[15:18] <archman> ActionParsnip; oh!
[15:18] <Gijssiee> when i start wubi, install ubuntu, and when i want to boot there is a black screen witch says grub>_
[15:18] <mhall119> XiXaQ: kwin can do compositing too, I think
[15:18] <Gijssiee> it won'nt boot
[15:18] <capitaozap> Hi
[15:18] <CarlFK> kc8pxy: net install doesn't use squashfs
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> archman: http://www.bolivarlug.org.ve/site/files/pantallazos/pud-lxde-2.jpg
[15:19] <XiXaQ> LXDE is really nice!
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> archman: sorry its so big
[15:19] <HammerHead66> ﻿ActionParsnip:  ﻿congrats on the tribal vote man
[15:19] <archman> ActionParsnip; guess it's something light like xfce? also uses low diskspace?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> HammerHead66: huh?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> archman: indeed
[15:19] <capitaozap> i am brazilian...
[15:19] <CarlFK> kc8pxy: where (source and dir) did you find what you pxe booted (linux/initrd)
[15:19] <Jeruvy> Daemon_Byte: sounds like you need to configure error logging :)
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> !br | capitaozap
[15:20] <HammerHead66> the one for the tribal lands that the farmers aree trying to move in on
[15:20] <capitaozap> ok
[15:20] <archman> ActionParsnip; can I install it too, like I installed xfce, without some major dependencies? I want to test it?
[15:20] <Daemon_Byte> Jeruvy: I thought mysql errors went to the syslog file. That's where the ssl and replication errors went
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> archman: sudo apt-get install lxde
[15:20] <Jeruvy> Daemon_Byte: by default it should, yes.
[15:20] <archman> ActionParsnip; thanks!
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> archman: log off, change session, log on
[15:20] <capitaozap> #ubuntu-br
[15:21] <Gijssiee> could you please help me?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> capitaozap: try  /j #ubuntu-br
[15:21] <kc8pxy> CarlFK:  i just looked..  i used a diferent howto.....   i used this one.
[15:21] <archman> ActionParsnip; yeah, sure ;)
[15:21] <kc8pxy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Gijssiee
[15:21] <archman> tn
[15:21] <Gijssiee> I've ALREADY ASKED
[15:21] <ortsvorsteher> !details | Gijssiee
[15:22] <daasdingo> hey guys, do you know what to do if i can't reset my proxy settings in synaptic?
[15:22] <archman> ActionParsnip; why do you prefer it over xfce?
 when i start wubi, install ubuntu, and when i want to boot there is a black screen witch says grub>_
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Gijssiee: ok did you md5 check the wubi installer?
[15:22] <capitaozap> j #ubuntu-br
[15:22] <Gijssiee> nope, how do i do that?
[15:22] <LogicFan> Gijssiee, remember, this is a volunteer support channel.  Patience will go a long way =)
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> archman: i think xfce feels flimsy, dunno why, lxde just seems solid
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Gijssiee
[15:23] <martiiin> Since I remove the workstation widget at my panel, I am looking for a way to switch workplace without using the panel, is there any shortcut key to switch workstation?
[15:23] <Gijssiee> thank you
[15:23] <Gijssiee> :D
[15:23] <archman> ActionParsnip; wow, rh packages.
[15:24] <daasdingo> when I try to switch to "no proxy" and click apply or ok in Synaptic, it hangs up, anyone know how to fix this?
[15:24] <crdlb> martiiin: ctrl+alt+left/right
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Gijssiee: md5 check everything you can to make sure its consistant
[15:24] <archman> ActionParsnip; ~35mb :>
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> archman: the way i see it. try everything you can and stick with what you end up prefering and disgard the rest
[15:25] <CarlFK> kc8pxy: ah.. I had that problem too - but I did get it to work... wish I had more time to help, but that one was very magical
[15:26] <archman> ActionParsnip, exactly!! thank you for your help, already helped me tons of times ;) logging off, brb
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> archman: np man, help where you can
[15:27] <Gijssiee> I have downloaded md5sum, what do i have to do now?
[15:27] <enko> hi... i'm trying to modify my etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file; but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I even deleted its whole contents an nothing changes... My question is if there is another file in another location that's replacing this alsa-base file?
[15:27] <WebGuest1> hi. can anyone help? i've just installed ubuntu intrepid and when i run firefox, my pc locks up.
[15:27] <kalidar> what is command for acessing files in admin mode?
[15:27] <kalidar> anyone?
[15:27] <enko> kalidar, suo?
[15:27] <LogicFan> kalidar, do you mean sudo?
[15:27] <LjL> kalidar: "accessing files" is a bit generic, what exactly do you want to do?
[15:27] <enko> sudo*
[15:28] <HammerHead66> ﻿ kalidar:  "sudo"
[15:28] <LogicFan> WebGuest1, can you elaborate?
[15:28] <kalidar> i want to change the .list in my bootloader
[15:28] <millertime_018> does anyone know how to install enlightenment?
[15:28] <Gijssiee> i have downloaded md5sum, what do i have to do now?
[15:28] <LjL> kalidar: you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[15:28] <kalidar> but i cyes ljl
[15:28] <kalidar> thats what i want to edit
[15:28] <LjL> kalidar: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:28] <kalidar> wont let me save
[15:28] <kalidar> whats command
[15:29] <kalidar> thanks XD
[15:29] <WebGuest1> LogicFan, i lauch firefox and when it tries to load a page my whole pc freezes. mouse  doesn't rerspond, keys don't respond. it just locks up.
[15:29] <LjL> kalidar: careful what you do to that file. you might end up being unable to boot.
[15:29] <LjL> kalidar: you might want to post your changes to the pastebin for review.
[15:29] <millertime_018> !enlightenment
[15:29] <kalidar> i know that im just gona change the titles and delete the stupid recovery options
[15:29] <millertime_018> !install enlightenment
[15:29] <HammerHead66> ﻿WebGuest1: have you filed a bug report?
[15:29] <kristian2> i've just burned my first data dvd in ubuntu with brasero, the burn process seems to go fine, but at the end of the burning process i get this error: error while burning, the disc could not be mounted (max attempts reached) here is a screenshot: http://i40.tinypic.com/iz6x49.p - i think that brasero is done burning, and then ubuntu wants to mount the disc, but is unable to, so the burn process is a 100% done/not corrupt. then it's ok, but 
[15:29] <LjL> kalidar: DON'T DELETE the recovery options
[15:29] <kalidar> why not?
[15:30] <LogicFan> WebGuest1, does it lock-up when not browsing a webpage?  e.g. can you use all the menus/options?
[15:30] <kalidar> theirs 2 of the same load options and 2 of the same recovery opetions
[15:30] <kalidar> theirs no difference in the code
[15:30] <wheeeeHawww> im trying to restore my ubuntu installed grub but all i have is a sabayon live cd,how would i do this?
[15:30] <WebGuest1> HammerHead66, ooh, no. this is my first ever attempt at installing ubuntu (linux even). i'll have to check the website for etails as to how.
[15:30] <HammerHead66> ﻿kalidar: are you changing it in GUI?
[15:31] <WebGuest1> LogicFan, yes. it locks up only when browsing
[15:31] <Gijssiee> I've downloaded md5sum.exe what do i have to do now?
[15:31] <kalidar> no iim just editing the menu.list in the grub
[15:31] <LogicFan> WebGuest1, did you try reinstalling yet?
[15:31] <HammerHead66> ﻿kalidar: ok I don't know how then sorry
[15:32] <WebGuest1> LogicFan, yes. a  couple of times. i'm thinking of giving hardy heron a go. maybe it's just under intrepid...
[15:32] <LogicFan> 64bit?
[15:32] <WebGuest1> LogicFan, no, not 64bit
[15:32] <LogicFan> WebGuest1, if the rest of the OS is working well, its probably not ubuntu
[15:32] <WebGuest1> LogicFan, i'm using an old athlon
[15:33] <Jeruvy> WebGuest1: using flash?
[15:33] <LogicFan> Jeruvy, that was going to be my next question :)
[15:33] <WebGuest1> jeruvy, i'm not sure... it's firefox as installed by default
[15:33] <WebGuest1> i haven't installed anything else apart from the initial install
[15:34] <HammerHead66> ﻿WebGuest1: run update manager see if it helps out any
[15:34] <wheeeeHawww>  im trying to restore my ubuntu installed grub but all i have is a sabayon live cd,how would i do this?
[15:34] <LogicFan> !grub
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> WebGuest1: slot a athlons were pretty solid :)
[15:35] <Jeruvy> WebGuest1: I doubt the cpu is the cause, it sounds very specific to firefox.
[15:35] <WebGuest1> HammerHead66, yes i tried that. same issue though.
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> WebGuest1: try: killall firefox; mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_old; firefox &
[15:36] <archman> ActionParsnip: looking good.
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> just to test if its profile related
[15:36] <archman> ActionParsnip, I'll explore a bit
[15:36] <HammerHead66> ﻿WebGuest1: did you run update manager more than once? If not try to run it again and see if it helps
[15:36] <wheeeeHawww>  im trying to restore my ubuntu installed grub but all i have is a sabayon live cd,how would i do this?
[15:37] <WebGuest1> thanks ActionParsnip and HammerHead66, i'll try both those suggestions. i'm currently installing hardy heron to see if that fixes the problem
[15:37] <HammerHead66> ﻿WebGuest1:npman
[15:38] <millertime_018> !svn
[15:38] <millertime_018> !cvs
[15:39] <orudie> i'm at this guide trying to set up mail filter https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/mail-filtering.html getting this error http://pastebin.com/m6ded6e4d
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> WebGuest1: if it works with the new profile you can either rebuild from fresh or rename back and troubleshoot what you have
[15:41] <pmjdebruijn> hi, I'm using Jaunty, and my Pidgin buddy list (taskbar button) is visible on all my desktops (while the buddy list window itself is only visible on one desktop), can anybody tell me why this it?
[15:42] <Jeruvy> !jaunty | pmjdebruijn
[15:42] <alanbshepard70> is there a tool to scan a text file and remove all duplicate entries. The file has one entry per line and must be recursively scanned as duplicate entries might not be next to each other.
[15:42] <ge0rge007> hello!
[15:43] <ge0rge007> i need some help with  grep command,could anyone helo me?
[15:43] <ge0rge007> help*
[15:43] <HammerHead66> ﻿pmjdebruijn: it's just the way it's set-up so to break-up between the to screens
[15:43] <mister_roboto> ge0rge007: ask your question
[15:43] <pmjdebruijn> Jeruvy: I'm quite of aware Jaunty hasn't been released yet... but I'm wondering if my issue is a bug, or I'm just not getting something...
[15:43] <Jeruvy> alanbshepard70: sed and awk are your friends there.  see bash scripting also
[15:43] <archman> ActionParsnip, s**t I did something and now when I right click on desktop, I get this XLDE little menu. How to revert?
[15:43] <pmjdebruijn> HammerHead66: huh?
[15:43] <hhp2k> Hey everyone, happy Sunday :) I'm currently working on a PC that needs a windows XP reformat, but due to its condition, the whole drive must be formatted first.  When running GParted, I cannot touch this disk because it is the boot disk, and has the lock icon on it.  How can I format this disk right now?
[15:44] <Jeruvy> pmjdebruijn: this is the wrong channel to ask, also see launchpad.net or bugs.ubuntu.com for anything you're looking for
[15:44] <HammerHead66> ﻿pmjdebruijn: if you minimize it go to the other screen you can bring it up there
[15:44] <alanbshepard70> hhp2k: I think a liveCD would be the way to go
[15:44] <mister_roboto> hhp2k: one very easy way is to boot with GParted Live cd.
[15:44] <LogicFan> hhp2k, boot from XP cd, format the drive during install
[15:45] <hhp2k> alanbshepard70 mister_roboto: I'm on the Live CD right now.
[15:45] <mister_roboto> hhp2k: then unmount the hard drive
[15:45] <ge0rge007> i can not understand what this command do ""grep '[0..9]' file ""
[15:45] <ge0rge007> I know what grep do but i don't know what the '.' inside the square brackets do
[15:45] <hhp2k> mister_roboto: Will it still appear in GParted's list?
[15:45] <mister_roboto> hhp2k: yes
[15:45] <hhp2k> mister_roboto: Okay, I'll try that.  Thanks :)
[15:45] <alanbshepard70> hhp2k: should be sudo umount /media/disk1
[15:46] <pmjdebruijn> HammerHead66: huh? that makes no sense... moving windows between desktops is already provided for by the window manager
[15:46] <kblin> hi folks
[15:46] <cristi_> who has ant video problem just send me a private message
[15:46] <ToupeiraBINHO> como faço pra instalar o wine ?
[15:46] <nickolas> does anyone know what is wrong with this line? Mono give me an error saying Expecting `;'(CS1002) and this is said line string sName = Console.Readline();
[15:46] <cristi_> who has any video problem just send me a private message
[15:46] <kblin> what'd be the best channel to go to for questions about the 9.04 armel platform support?
[15:46] <m15k> hey i got a problem with the network adapter in 8.10 - if i ad a profile in the cabled network manager and select it it will dissapear after next boot
[15:46] <nickolas> does anyone know what is wrong with this line? Mono give me an error saying Expecting `;'(CS1002) and this is said line string sName = Console.Re
[15:46] <knoppix> hi
[15:47] <nickolas> sorry
[15:47] <nickolas> didn't mean to do that
[15:47] <ortsvorsteher> !pm | christi_
[15:47] <alanbshepard70> nickolas: Check the line before that one for ; and make sure that line is ; and not :
[15:47] <pmjdebruijn> HammerHead66: the behaviour seems quite broken to me
[15:47] <HammerHead66> ﻿pmjdebruijn: it's just a way to break up info so you can see more info easier. It's about seeing more. and nothing more
[15:47] <nickolas> okay
[15:47] <ToupeiraBINHO> alguem do Brasil aki
[15:47] <LjL> !br | ToupeiraBINHO
[15:47] <kristian2> i've just burnt my first data dvd with brasero and i get an error at the end/after the burn process has completed, don't think this affects the data on the dvd, but i don't like it. i found out that the error is a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/brasero/+bug/294455 / http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562740 and it should have been fixed, but the repos are not updated with the latest version of brasero yet, so i can't apt-get the la
[15:48] <nickolas> thank you alanbshepard70 it worked!
[15:48] <pmjdebruijn> HammerHead66: like I said, it doesn't make sense to me... but thanks for the info
[15:48] <Drakeson> How can I force aptitude (or apt-get) to always install all the development packages of the packages I have automatically?
[15:48] <alanbshepard70> nickolas: you're welcome.
[15:48] <cristi_> what does it means this error ''fixation failed'' when i burn a disk?
[15:49] <finiras> whats the name of that package again that lets you have a cube of screens
[15:49] <fosco_> finiras: compiz
[15:49] <cristi_> finiras: compiz-fusion
[15:50] <cristi_> what does it means this error ''fixation failed'' when i burn a disk?
[15:50] <finiras> ubuntu came with that installed but i cant find the options for that anywhere
[15:50] <eqisow1> There are limited options for it under "Appearance"
[15:51] <HammerHead66> ﻿Drakeson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/HandsOn try to get the info here
[15:51] <eqisow1> finiras: for more advanced options you need the compizconfig-settings package
[15:51] <finiras> thx but where is the rest eqisowl... i want that cube
[15:51] <finiras> o thx
[15:52] <kristian2> will k3b run fine with gnome instead of kde?
[15:53] <alanbshepard70> kristian2:  Yes
[15:53] <mister_roboto> anyone know why my bluetooth mouse no longer connects after reboot? it was for a while (jaunty) but now i have to keep repairing it after reboot
[15:54] <alanbshepard70> kristian2:  if you want to use k3b because of errors you're receiving when burning a disc (DVD) using k3b will likely NOT fix the issue.
[15:54] <HammerHead66> ﻿mister_roboto: try pressing the mouse buttons when you booting up that might help
[15:54] <Chaoman60> I need help making a thin client with ubuntu 8.10. I have normal ubuntu 8.10 on my desktop and laptop, and I want to make my laptop a thin client to my desktop.
[15:55] <finiras> how do i upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 btw
[15:55] <alanbshepard70> Chaoman60: Would SSH or VNC work for you? Vnc tunneled through SSH?
[15:55] <kristian2> alanbshepard70 : the error is a brasero error. so it should work, no?
[15:55] <Chaoman60> wats ssh?
[15:55] <HammerHead66> ﻿finiras: download 8.10 and burn it then install it
[15:55] <sjokkis> hey, i've installed pulseaudio (had to do it manually since i didn't want the whole desktop package), and i get audio when i tell mplayer to use the pulse audio driver. however when i run alsamixer i still see all the same devices i used to, and not a single master device. how do i fix this?
[15:55] <mister_roboto> HammerHead66: i'll try that. when i look at the bluetooth device manager, it's there - just unconnected. the thing that bugs me is it was working fine until a recent update :\
[15:56] <finiras> isnt there a way to just upgrade it by a command or something? hammerhead66
[15:56] <alanbshepard70> kristian2:  It depends on the error but in my experience the answer is no. It's worth trying though, it's free and I'm guessing you're not on dialup.
[15:56] <HammerHead66> ﻿Chaoman60:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/HandsOn?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ssh&titlesearch=Titles try here for the answerok
[15:56] <AliTarihi> سلام به همه
[15:57] <kristian2> alanbshepard70 : the error/bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/brasero/+bug/294455 / http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562740 - i did apt-get install brasero and i "have the latester version".
[15:57] <Drakeson> HammerHead66: that page doesn't mention a way to autmatically install -dev packages for all packages we install
[15:57] <SecretBnC> Who is on Ubuntu?
[15:57] <HammerHead66> ﻿finiras: not that I know of but you can look for that on ubuntu help page it might be there
[15:57] <Drakeson> !english
[15:58] <SecretBnC> Who has Ubuntu?
[15:58] <Jeruvy> !poll | SecretBnC
[15:58] <mister_roboto> SecretBnC: that's something like windows, right?
[15:58] <X-Factor> finiras: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[15:58] <alanbshepard70> kristian2: I'm not familiar with that error. It won't hurt anything to try k3b, it's easy to install and it can just as easily be removed.
[15:59] <kristian2> alanbshepard70 : ok, i will try it then. thanks! :-)
[15:59] <HammerHead66> ﻿Drakeson: then only way I know of is what I said before...but keep asking some else might know about it
[15:59] <alanbshepard70> kristian2: Welcome.
[15:59] <kristian2> alanbshepard70 : ill post back if it works with k3b.
[15:59] <Chaoman60> SecretBnC: Who in their right mind doesn't?
[15:59] <alanbshepard70> kristian2:  Ok.
[16:01] <SecretBnC> I'm having trouble getting it, Chaoman60
[16:02] <alanbshepard70> SecretBnC: In what sense?
[16:02] <SecretBnC> I load up Ubunt
[16:02] <SecretBnC> Ubuntu*
[16:02] <SecretBnC> And it's just CMD
[16:02] <Chaoman60> lol he said CMD
[16:03] <SecretBnC> How do I get it out 'a that?
[16:03] <alanbshepard70> SecretBnC: Command Line? Did you install or try to run the Server Edition?
[16:03] <SecretBnC> Install
[16:03] <cristi_> helloo
[16:03] <Chaoman60> Do you get a BSoD? *pfft*
[16:03] <alanbshepard70> SecretBnC: You installed the Server version?
[16:03] <SecretBnC> Command Line it is
[16:04] <cristi_> when i burned a disk an error message appeared ''fixation failed'' what this means?
[16:04] <AwayML> this doesn't look good - apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:04] <SecretBnC> No
[16:04] <mister_roboto> SecretBnC: you mean how do you get a GUI to display instead of command line?
[16:04] <SecretBnC> Installed
[16:04] <alanbshepard70> SecretBnC: start x
[16:04] <HammerHead66> ﻿SecretBnC: Ctrl+Alt+F7
[16:04] <SecretBnC> mister_roboto >> Yes
[16:04] <Chaoman60> isnt it without spaces?
[16:04] <cristi_> when i burned a disk an error message appeared ''fixation failed'' what this means?
[16:05] <Dillizar> my gstreamer is not working i cant play anything pls help
[16:05] <alanbshepard70> Chaoman60: Could be, I haven't needed to use that one in a while.
[16:05] <SecretBnC> Ok
[16:05] <vlad50> hello all
[16:05] <AndyML> anyone have any ideas? apt-get -f install gives me this - apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:05] <HammerHead66> ﻿SecretBnC: it worked?
[16:05] <alanbshepard70> !repeat | cristi_
[16:05] <Chaoman60> i used to (try to) use slackware. Ubuntu ftw
[16:06] <cristi_> when i burned a disk an error message appeared ''fixation failed'' what this means?
[16:06] <alanbshepard70> or just keep asking.....
[16:06] <Drakeson> cristi_: fixation is the process after writing the data that prevents further writing to the disk. The disk that you have burnt might or might not work. So try it.
[16:07] <Chaoman60> Also, remember: if your responsiveness is skippy, like nonresponsive, then overresponsive, cool your machine better
[16:07] <cristi_> it works so that is why i asked
[16:07] <Chaoman60> just before anyone asks about erratic computer behaviour
[16:07] <Chaoman60> heat
[16:08] <cristi_> i have an os on that cd and i wonder if it is any risk to install that os from the cd
[16:08] <HammerHead66>  ﻿cristi_: http://club.cdfreaks.com/f48/lots-failed-burns-nero-session-fixation-error-any-ideas-how-fix-223583/  try this page out
[16:08] <kristian2> alanbshepard70 : where can i tick off so the data dvd closes, so that no more data can be burnt to dvd?
[16:08] <Drakeson> cristi_: if it is ubuntu, there is usually a "check media before installation" or something like that, that verifies the disk before proceeding.
[16:08] <mister_roboto> Chaoman60: $3.25
[16:08] <alanbshepard70> AndyML: You might try an apt-get autoremove, apt-get autoclean and then an apt-get check, if you still have issues let us know
[16:09] <vlad50> i installed ubuntu allongside windows and after updateing the video card driver in ubuntu windows will no longer boot
[16:09] <cristi_> i checked and its says that no errors where found i just asked to make sure
[16:09] <Drakeson> it should be fine then. just don't try to write further information on that disk.
[16:10] <AndyML> alanbshepard70: all three returned apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:10] <alanbshepard70> kristian2: I'm not sure, I don't really use k3b, have you gone through the options/settings/preferences menu?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> vlad50: i'd look at grub to make sure its setup ok and then troubleshoot windows
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> vlad50: i'd also fsck the drives and checkdisk in windows
[16:10] <mister_roboto> vlad50: you mean you were dual-booting but now it just boots straight to linux?
[16:11] <Eagle_Fr_69> Hello. I have a trouble with "initramfs" next to a RAID0 install with 8.10 alternate (using dmraid). Is it the correct channel for this kind of trouble ?
[16:11] <vlad50> when i pick eather xp or ubuntu the screen just stays black
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Eagle_Fr_69: sure
[16:11] <alanbshepard70> AndyML: Try dpkg --configure -a
[16:11] <Jeruvy> Eagle_Fr_69: sure, go ahead.
[16:12] <HammerHead66> ﻿vlad50: did you try to run a live disk to see if it rolls back the drivers?
[16:12] <Dillizar> my gstreamer is not working i cant play anything pls help
[16:12] <vlad50> im runing the live cd right now
[16:12] <Dillizar> !gstreamer
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> !find gstream
[16:12] <HammerHead66> ﻿vlad50: did you restart already?
[16:12] <vlad50> yes
[16:13] <HammerHead66> ﻿vlad50: hm
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> vlad50: run an fsck on your disks to make sure they are ok
[16:13] <vlad50> im new to linux, how do you fsck?
[16:13] <HammerHead66> ﻿vlad50: when you restarted did you take out the live cd?
[16:13] <vlad50> yes i took it out
[16:14] <mister_roboto> vlad50: was your dual-boot setup EVER working?
[16:14] <yoga_> i dont configure postfix,devecot,squirmail?? someone help me?
[16:14] <vlad50> yes, untill i installed the video drivers in ubuntu
[16:15] <AndyML> alanbshepard70: it seems to be working, but i'm getting a lot of componants failing because of "segmentation fault" - any idea what piece of hardware causes a segmentation fault when it's failed?
[16:15] <pumaman> Hi, Evolution 2.24.3 crashes whenever I try to print an email (printing contacts is fine and printing from other programs is fine). I get the error message "gtkhtml:ERROR:htmlengine-print.c:396:engine_print_draw_page: assertion failed: (data->offsets->len > page_nr)". Does anybody know how I can fix this? Thanks.
[16:15] <mister_roboto> vlad50: installing soemthing to your linux partition can't affect your boot sector or partition table unless something went horribly wrong :)    hmmmm
[16:15] <l337ingDisorder> Can anyone help? I'm running ubuntu server and I've installed the partimage-server package. Everything works when I run it manually, but I'd like to have it automatically run on startup. I can find how-to's for running on startup for gnome, but with ubuntu server there's no gnome.. Does anyone know how to auto-run a program with the command-line-only Ubuntu Server?
[16:16] <alexlaban> Could someone help me install libtorrent and rtorrent on ubuntu server 8.10? I'm getting errors on "make"
[16:16] <alanbshepard70> AndyML: Segmentation fault is software related if I'm not mistaken. Did you just recently try to upgrade to Jaunty?
[16:16] <vlad50> there is no linux partition, the ubuntu disc gave me the option of installing along windows on the same partition
[16:16] <GarthMarenghi> Hello everyone.  I have a Dell inspiron notebook with an ATI radeon integrated graphics card and I'm trying to use an external monitor.  The monitor can handle up to a 1600 x 1050 (I think) resolution, but the option only has up to 1280 x 800.  Can anyone help me?
[16:17] <mister_roboto> alanbshepard70: AndyML: segmentation fault means the program tried to access memory that it's not supposed to
[16:17] <AndyML> alanbshepard70: http://pastie.org/423504 - here is the output of dpkg --configure -a. No, it is a fresh install of xubuntu 8.04 that i tried to run apt-get upgrade on.
[16:17] <HammerHead66> ﻿vlad50: I had kinda the same problem but once I ran the live cd and it fixed it. try to change setup for your video card  it should fix it
[16:17] <Chaoman60> vlad50: i feel ya. i still use winblowz for programs that dont work with wine
[16:17] <kristian2> alanbshepard70 : i have looked, can't find it, but i have found out that the same bug braero have k3b has. bah! :-/
[16:17] <AndyML> alanbshepard70: but what gets me is that it did the same thing after an upgrade from Ubuntu 8.04 desktop too
[16:17] <mister_roboto> HammerHead66: how can that mess up both windows and linux boot?
[16:18] <mister_roboto> HammerHead66: that would seem to make sense ONLY if the linux screen was black. shouldn't affect his windows boot
[16:18] <Eagle_Fr_69> Before, excuse my poor english. So, next to a 9.04 (same trouble with 8.10) alternate install on my FakeRaid-0 configuration, i'm stoped in initramfs with : "ALERT! /dev/mapper/nvidia_myraidid1 does not exit". A "dmraid -ay" displays only the root of my RAID, and i cannot see my partitions (nvidia_xxxxxx1, nvidia_xxxxxx2, etc....) with ls /dev/mapper/
[16:18] <alanbshepard70> kristian2: Yea I figured that would happen, sorry.
[16:18] <alanbshepard70> AndyML: upgrade and not dist-upgrade? Just double checking.
[16:18] <HammerHead66> because when it starts up is runs the linux first to see what you want to start your just missing the screen because Linux is messed up
[16:18] <AndyML> yes - upgrade. not dist-upgrade
[16:19] <Chaoman60> So... if i use ssh will i be able to make my laptop suitable for gaming?
[16:19] <HammerHead66> *start your OS
[16:19] <danil> I'm building a program that makes use of mountlo, but was never really sure what "mount -o loop" does. Isn't it just mounting a (image) file rw into a directory?
[16:19] <mister_roboto> HammerHead66: he said that he already picked windows at that point
[16:19] <deathray> What is the proper command to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04?
[16:19] <LjL> !jaunty > Deathray    (Deathray, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:19] <GarthMarenghi> I'm having trouble getting the proper resolution on my laptop, can anyone help me?
[16:20] <GarthMarenghi> * On an external display
[16:20] <mister_roboto> HammerHead66: i think you're talking about the grub menu. grub does NOT boot linux first to "get some screen"
[16:20] <Deathray> Thank you LjL
[16:20] <HammerHead66> I know it's just strange like that.
[16:20] <AndyML> alanbshepard70: sorry - forgot to include your nick - yes - upgrade. not dist-upgrade
[16:20] <HammerHead66> I don't know what does it but I have seen it
[16:21] <Chaoman60> ok heres a question that i need to know the answer to. Is there a k7 smp kernel for 8.10
[16:22] <daftykins> the "generic" kernel should enable SMP, no?
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[16:22] <Chaoman60> for amd cpu
[16:22] <daftykins> yes i read that part Chaoman60, are you saying it doesn't work?
[16:23] <alanbshepard70> AndyML: Sorry but I'm tapped out, this seems to be a fairly recent bug to surface. Google shows a few people reporting the issue within the past two months but no solutions yet from what I can tell. If I can come up with something I'll let you know.
[16:23] <Chaoman60> i'm asking if there is one better for the job than generic
[16:23] <AndyML> much obliged alanbshepard70
[16:24] <alexlaban> If anyone would like to help me with my lib/rtorrent installation problem I made a thread here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1103125 , it seems pretty overflowed here so I guess it's easier to get help on the forums.
[16:24] <agro1986> guys, can anyone tell me the channel in freenode to do general chat?
[16:24] <daftykins> i'm simply asking if you get both processors show up from "cat /proc/cpuinfo" with the generic kernel Chaoman60
[16:24] <daftykins> #ubuntu-offtopic is good agro1986
[16:24] <voice5sur5> !off-topic
[16:24] <lstarnes> agro1986: #defocus also exists
[16:24] <jase_> i have a few issues i need to address 1) when i plug a nokia 5610 in and set to datastorage it pops up an error about not mounting properly but continues to mount. i can delete from it but cannot copy anything to it nor move anything around on it
[16:24] <alanbshepard70> AndyML: Anytime. It seems to be an issue upstream debian is having as well so might try asking around
[16:24] <agro1986> ah thanks all
[16:24] <cristi_> can anyone tell me the best torrent client for ubuntu?
[16:25] <malibu> Does anyone know if there are mobos that Ubuntu won't work on?  I'm looking at Intel DP45SG...
[16:25] <voice5sur5> cristi_, the default one
[16:25] <crdlb> agro1986: what's wrong the the packages in the repos?
[16:25] <jase_> 2) monitor shuts off after a while during full screen games like nexuis and saubertan, even though i am using the mouse and keyboard
[16:25] <Chaoman60> yep both
[16:25] <eqisow1>  wcistri_: imo, deluge
[16:25] <kristian2> alanbshepard70 : since both have the bug, then ill just stick with brasero, since the author has replied here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562740 - comment #4, and said that the bug is harmless. brasero is trying to re-mount the disc after burning to checksum it, so ill just have to live without that then. however i have another question for you, if you have time: when i have selected the dirs/files to be burnt to an empty dv
[16:25] <cristi_> the default one start downloading very slowly
[16:25] <GarthMarenghi> cristi_ The a built in one has always worked well for me
[16:25] <jase_> 3) firefox tends to become unresponsive after opening only 5 tabs
[16:26] <alanbshepard70> cristi_: I prefer deluge to transmission, it has a few more features, better ui (in my opinion) and lets you select compact allocation or choose files to not download.
[16:26] <crdlb> agro1986: oops, please ignore that
[16:26] <Jeruvy> alexlaban: why not install from package?
[16:26] <voice5sur5> cristi_, its not the client who did this
[16:26] <eqisow1> vistri_: however, deluge will not solve speed problems. That will either be your router settings or that the torrent is just slow
[16:26] <voice5sur5> check the number of sources
[16:26] <cristi_> deluge says that ''not enough disk space when i start it and i have 40  gb free
[16:26] <daftykins> should be fine then Chaoman60 , there aren't really any other options i see in the official repos
[16:27] <voice5sur5> and increase your upload speed cristi_
[16:27] <eqisow1> cristi_ are you using ext4?
[16:27] <cristi_> no
[16:27] <cristi_> est3
[16:27] <cristi_> ext3
[16:27] <alexlaban> @Jeruvy: Someone told me that the package uses and old version so it were best to do it this way
[16:27] <voice5sur5> you have to upload to get better download
[16:27] <Chaoman60> oh because i was told to look for a k7 smp kernel to speed my machine up
[16:27] <jase_> vistri_: speed problems could also mean that you are uploading at your max and that will affect all download
[16:28] <voice5sur5> jase_, he should upload 1 or 2 kb under his maz
[16:28] <cristi_> what are the advantages of ext4
[16:28] <voice5sur5> max*
[16:28] <Eagle_Fr_69> No nvidia_fakeraid killer to help me plz ? I've try all forum tips, and still no raid partition are seen next to the reboot after install. :(
[16:28] <alanbshepard70> cristi_: Check the preferences for download location and make sure it points to a dir with enough space. Also is the file bigger than 40GB? unless you select compact allocation and eventually free up some space you don't have the room
[16:28] <alanbshepard70> kristian2: Ask now if you want.
[16:28] <cristi_> the file has 37 mb and i have enough space on both partitions
[16:29] <voice5sur5> anyone know how to choose the runlvl ?
[16:29] <jase_> cristi: right now its still in testing so any advantages are outwayed by the chance of disk failure. but as far as benchmarking its just as fast as xfs
[16:29] <Jeruvy> alexlaban: just type the nic, don't use @ in irc before the nic.  I miss the pings.  Off hand I'd say your missing a dependancy or there is a bug in the source.
[16:29] <Chaoman60> is jaunty any good?
[16:29] <m0RrE> sure
[16:29] <cristi_> file system has 6 gb free and disk has 40 gb free and my hard drive capacity is 120 gb
[16:29] <m0RrE> i use it on my netbook
[16:29] <daftykins> voice5sur5, actually with the majority of Internet connection types you have to run 50-75% of max upstream bandwidth to maintain maximum downstream
[16:30] <jase_> i stay about 10% under my max up
[16:30] <alexlaban> Jeruvy: So what do you think I should do?
[16:30] <voice5sur5> jase_, why not just using xfs then?
[16:30] <danil> Is it safe to assume that all major Linuxes have FUSE installed by default?
[16:30] <Paolo88> using wine is possible run ms office on ubuntu?
[16:30] <Chaoman60> ms office sux use open
[16:31] <voice5sur5> Chaoman60, why it sux?
[16:31] <Lint> Chaoman60, OpenOffice is a joke.
[16:31] <Jeruvy> alexlaban: check to make sure all your dependancies are installed and support the version of the package you are building.  I'd be asking the source maintainers directly.  Also see if the error is known or not.
[16:31] <jase_> because xfs is meant for different hardware than a standard desktop pc has. disk failure can occur and you would be in heap of trouble. its high performance but at the cost of diskfailure, requiring better protection
[16:31] <voice5sur5> anyone know how to choose the runlvl ?
[16:31] <alanbshepard70> Paolo88: http://www.winehq.org/search?cx=partner-pub-0971840239976722%3Aw9sqbcsxtyf&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=office#823
[16:31] <voice5sur5> !runlevel
[16:32] <Chaoman60> ms office has tons of holes and tons of bugs. Open Office is available for linux as opposed to crashing wine
[16:32] <Stepan1> Can anyone lead me through getting samba set up so that a windows machine can use my linux printer?  (the two computers are not on the same network)
[16:32] <daftykins> voice5sur5, you can edit your GRUB boot lines and add "init x"
[16:32] <daftykins> to choose runlevel
[16:32] <Jeruvy> alexlaban: of course you can ask here also :)  But I'd use an older version just to avoid building unless there is some critical must-have function missing.
[16:32] <cristi_> hello what is a kernel?
[16:32] <Chaoman60> ...
[16:32] <Lint> come on, they cannot put in Normal view for 8 years
[16:33] <jase_> i like abiword. open office is a resource hog
[16:33] <Chaoman60> lag?
[16:33] <voice5sur5> daftykins, i did but no effect dud
[16:33] <Lint> there's not Outline view
[16:33] <Chaoman60> zomg i r lagging
[16:33] <alexlaban> Jeruvy: What version should I get?
[16:33] <Paolo88> alanbshepard70: tanks
[16:33] <voice5sur5> daftykins, it boot in 2 like normal boot
[16:33] <daftykins> ?
[16:33] <alanbshepard70> Paolo88: Welcome.
[16:33] <Chaoman60> fixd
[16:33] <jase_> anyways. can someone help me with my 3 issues i listed when i first entered?
[16:33] <Jeruvy> !info rtorrent
[16:33] <Lint> Half of the fields are missing
[16:33] <cristi_> !kernel > cristi_
[16:34] <Paolo88> alanbshepard70: tanks!!!
[16:34] <Stepan1> Can anyone lead me through getting samba set up so that a windows machine can use my linux printer?  (the two computers are not on the same network)
[16:34] <Chaoman60> does abiword support ms word documents?
[16:34] <jase_> i have a few issues i need to address 1) when i plug a nokia 5610 in and set to datastorage it pops up an error about not mounting properly but continues to mount. i can delete from it but cannot copy anything to it nor move anything around on it
[16:34] <alexlaban> Jeruvy: It stood as a stable release on the Trac so I thought that I did something wrong
[16:34] <jase_> 2) monitor shuts off after a while during full screen games like nexuis and saubertan, even though i am using the mouse and keyboard
[16:34] <Lint> it should
[16:34] <jase_> 3) firefox tends to become unresponsive after opening only 5 tabs
[16:34] <voice5sur5> Chaoman60, just try to openone
[16:34] <militant> so i'm trying to make an ubuntu install usb stick.   from an ubuntu machine.  the "Ubuntu USB desktop image creator" is producing a stick that just boots my existing install
[16:34] <voice5sur5> daftykins, any idea?
[16:35] <Chaoman60> dont have any on my machine rite now
[16:35] <jase_> militant: try unetbootin
[16:35] <daftykins> 'fraid not, not tried runlevels myself with ubuntu
[16:35] <alanbshepard70> voice5sur5: This help at all http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-201130.html
[16:35] <Jeruvy> alexlaban: well I can't say you didn't.  If you like, try removing all the packages and repeat the build from the how-to.  Sometimes a typo can cause all kinds of grief.  I'm not familiar with building this (or related) packages myself.
[16:35] <perillux> is there a way to output the entire contents of a file AFTER a certain point.  like | grep or something but will print not just the line containing the text but everything after it as well?
[16:35] <kristian2> alanbshepard70 : if i burn a dvd with a file with more than 64 characters will windows not be able to view it? because when i add a 64+ character file, the option "make compatiable with windows system" goes away, and if i try to click it, then it asks for the file to be renamed, which i dont want to do. :-/
[16:36] <jrib> perillux: you can use sed to do that
[16:36] <perillux> jrib: thanks
[16:36] <voice5sur5> alanbshepard70, there is no /etc/inittab in my filesystem
[16:37] <militant> jase_, kk
[16:37] <alanbshepard70> kristian2:  It's been quite some time since I've used Windows but if I remember right unless you rename the file that file will NOT be avaible under windows and possibly the whole disc.
[16:37] <jrib> voice5sur5: why do you want to choose the runlevel?
[16:37] <GarthMarenghi> I'm trying to get an external monitor to display it's full resolution when hooked up to my laptop.  Can anyone help me?
[16:37] <voice5sur5> jrib, so i can have two different run lvl
[16:38] <GarthMarenghi> I know it seems like a trivial problem, but I can't find any solutions on the forums or through google searches that match my situation
[16:38] <jrib> voice5sur5: so you want to know how to modify what services start on a runlevel?
[16:38] <voice5sur5> jrib, if i want to boot up fast to see something and then shutdown i dont have to start all services
[16:38] <voice5sur5> jrib, no
[16:38] <voice5sur5> jrib, sysv-conf
[16:38] <nic401> Garth, is your laptop wide screen?
[16:38] <voice5sur5> jrib, i want to know how to switch from different levels
[16:38] <GarthMarenghi> No it's not, just a 15''
[16:38] <GarthMarenghi> The monitor is 22''
[16:39] <HammerHead66> ﻿GarthMarenghi: probably because not a lot of people have tried it
[16:39] <jrib> voice5sur5: telinit as always
[16:39] <kematzy> Hey, Ubuntus :)  Please have mercy with a noob that just bought a 'naked' eMachines el1200 and want to install Ubuntu on it, but ONLY knows how to do so from within Windoze.  HOW do I install from the CLI ??
[16:39] <CEkkimetro> salve
[16:39] <jrib> voice5sur5: if you actually want to change the default, check the upstart docs.  Most likely you need to modify something in /etc/event.d/
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> kematzy: yuo could use wubi
[16:39] <jrib> !upstart | voice5sur5
[16:39] <daftykins> kematzy, what do you mean install from within Windows or from CLI?
[16:39] <nic401> it is a very interesting problem...
[16:40] <daftykins> just boot the CD? :P
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> kematzy: it'll install ubuntu as a windows app. i think its pretty god awful personally
[16:40] <kristian2> alanbshepard70 : ok thanks for the info. im not using windows anymore, but the problem is that everyone else uses it. :-P anyways, i dont want to rename my files over 64 char. ;-) thanks for your help! :-)
[16:40] <Eagle_Fr_69> Next to a 9.04 (same trouble with 8.10) alternate install on my FakeRaid-0 configuration, i'm stoped in initramfs with : "ALERT! /dev/mapper/nvidia_myraidid1 does not exit". A "dmraid -ay" displays only the root of my RAID, and i cannot see my partitions (nvidia_xxxxxx1, nvidia_xxxxxx2, etc....) with ls /dev/mapper/
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> kematzy: you could resize the ntfs using the livecd to make room for  a  dual boot
[16:40] <kematzy> daftykins:  I only installed ubuntu on a Win XP pc, never on an empty (no windoze at all) PC,
[16:40] <Stepan1> Can anyone lead me through getting SAMBA set up so that a windows machine can use my linux printer?  (the two computers are not on the same network)
[16:40] <alanbshepard70> GarthMarenghi: Do you know if restricted Nvidia drivers are in use on your laptop? I had a similar issue and needed to run sudo nvidia-settings
[16:41] <mister_roboto> voice5sur5: change your grub menu to put the runlevel number on the end
[16:41] <daftykins> you know there's virtually no difference kematzy ? just boot the CD and run install once it's started
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> !samba | Stepan1
[16:41] <mister_roboto> voice5sur5: then you can pick which you want to boot into
[16:41] <voice5sur5> mister_roboto, it doen't work
[16:41] <kematzy> ActionParsnip:  I don't have any windows
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> kematzy: then boot to a live cd and install
[16:41] <mister_roboto> voice5sur5: doesn't work in what sense? i've done it before
[16:41] <voice5sur5> mister_roboto, puting just the number don't do anything
[16:41] <GarthMarenghi> alanbshepard70: No, my computer uses an integrated ATI radeon graphics card.  I can't find the settings through catalyst control center
[16:41] <mister_roboto> voice5sur5: actually, it does
[16:41] <voice5sur5> mister_roboto, your just boot on mode 2
[16:41] <kematzy> daftykins:  I put in CD, restart, but nothing happens. goes into linpus screen no ubuntu booting
[16:42] <voice5sur5> i ll retry again
[16:42] <kematzy> ActionParsnip:  tried that with LIVE CD, but not working. hence asking ;)
[16:42] <HammerHead66> ﻿kematzy: go into BIOS and have it boot from cd first
[16:42] <daftykins> kematzy, is this "eMachines" a desktop or laptop?
[16:42] <alanbshepard70> kristian2: If it's just a matter of not manually wanting to rename multiple files there are ways around that. Are the files buried in several folders? if you pull the buried folders to the root directory that will "shorten" the filenames (by reducing the path length).
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> kematzy: did you md5 check the iso as well as verify the cd was ok once burned and booted to?
[16:43] <kematzy> HammerHead66:  pardon stupidity, been in Mac world all my life, so BIOS is greek to me ;)
[16:43] <Kissaki> When starting ubuntu, neither mouse nor keyboard input work on gnome login window. After restarting dbus (/etc/init.d/dbus restart) on another terminal, it does work again without problems. What do I have to do, so it will work after restart again automatically?
[16:43] <kematzy> daftykins: desktop el1200 bought in Malaysia
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Kissaki: you could add the command (in a script) to the last rc level
[16:44] <HammerHead66> ﻿kematzy: when the pc is starting up hit the Delete button on keyboard til it shows you opions
[16:44] <daftykins> yeah so hit delete or F2 or F12 or some key to enter BIOS on power on kematzy and find the boot order page, then set it so #1 is CD and #2 is HDD
[16:44] <kematzy> converting a law office from XP to Unbuntu and just bought new PC for the big BOSS, and he want's it tomorrow morning and it's past midnight over here :(
[16:44] <Kissaki> ActionParsnip: could it be a configuration problem or sth?
[16:44] <user___> Kissaki: is it started at the first place?. i.e. could you reboot and do /etc/init.d/dbus status and tell us..?
[16:45] <user___> Kissaki: s/at/in
[16:45] <kematzy> HammerHead66:  daftykins  thanks will try
[16:45] <HammerHead66> ﻿kematzy: go to boot section, the look for cd start-up and make it on top of list
[16:45] <kristian2> alanbshepard70 : the path/files should not be altered. so i should not rename dirs or files, and not change the structure. so i guess, windows users will just have to switch to linux. :-P anyways, nvm. ill just burn it even though its not comp with windows. :-) thanks though! :-)
[16:45] <Kissaki> damn, I did check that today... forgot if it was started ^^ But I think it was, that's what confused me
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Kissaki: not sure, ive not had that one myself, but if the command makes things nice, add a script to run the command in your bootup and you'll be ok. its a bit hacky but if it does the job, i'd run with it
[16:46] <Kissaki> ActionParsnip: k, thx for the suggestion
[16:46] <alanbshepard70> kristian2:  You're welcome.
[16:46] <Ariana> hi
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> kematzy: you could press F11 as soon as your system powers on, you will then get a menu to chose the boot device
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> kematzy: or it may be F12
[16:47] <GarthMarenghi> alanbshepard70:  Some of the solutions I found online for nvidia graphics cards involved modifying xorg.conf.  I think I'm going to try messing around with that (after backing it up).  If I come up with a solution I'll post it here
[16:47] <mhall119> or F1, or F2
[16:47] <mhall119> or Delete
[16:47] <HammerHead66> lol
[16:47] <Ariana> i want to install ubunto on an external hard drive, is that possible? and can it be done from windows, ie without a ubuntu disc, because i dont have any blank discs right now?
[16:47] <mhall119> I usually hit all the function keys and delete and insert
[16:48] <GarthMarenghi> Ariana: Do you have any flash drives handy?
[16:48] <chi_> hi folks, building KERNEL with "--config TARGET" prompts me for explicitly giving answer to all kernel options! ??? ??  but i gave the process the config? why doesn't it look there?
[16:48] <Jeruvy> !wubi | Ariana
[16:48] <Ariana> oh thats great thanks
[16:48] <Ariana> and no garth, i only have my computer, and 1 external harddrive ii bought
[16:49] <GarthMarenghi> Ariana:  Yeah, after thinking about it a bit, I don't think a flash drive would help in this situation :-)
[16:49] <jase_> im not sure why i even bother coming to this channel. help others out here, but never seem to get anything resolved for myself :S
[16:49] <Ariana> i've got paragon partition manager so i can set up all the linux partitions i need on the harddrive
[16:49] <clarks> can i ask?can i  webcam with others computer/user using ubuntu?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> !webcam
[16:49] <q3s> hello!
[16:49] <Ariana> also, if it's a 30gb hd, what size would you recommend for the swap etc? 4gb ram... documentation said double your memory, but that seems like a bit much?
[16:50] <chi_> hi folks, building KERNEL with "--config TARGET" prompts me for explicitly giving answer to all kernel options! ??? ??  but i gave the process the config? why doesn't it look there?
[16:50] <clarks> ActionParsnip, i mean can i see my friend webcam from my laptop using ubuntu?
[16:50] <GarthMarenghi> Ariana: Are you trying to dual boot from this external and your computer?
[16:50] <jase_> make your swap 2x ram unless you have 2gb+ of ram then set it to 1.5 of ram and dont go above 4gb swap
[16:50] <kematzy> HammerHead66:  daftykins   THANKS A LOT !!! you saved my @ss !! Owe u big time!! :)  Ubuntu installing !
[16:50] <Ariana> i want to be able to boot the external from various computers, it's a usb hdd so any computer which supports boot from usb should allow that?
[16:51] <chi_> Ariana : check wether your 4gigs of ram are used, and then go to analyse how much ram you use at PEAK
[16:51] <Ariana> well running windows i don't think i've ever used more than 2.5
[16:51] <daftykins> np kematzy  :)
[16:51] <Jeruvy> Ariana: actually in that case, you'd be better using a flash boot, than wubi.  Wubi is a dualboot setup and probably won't like being moved around.
[16:51] <kristian2> alanbshepard70 : the only thing that im a bit curious about now is why the latest version of brasero in the repos is 0.8.2 when the latest version of brasero is 2.26.0. that's a lot of versions behind, 0.9.0, 0.9.1, 2.25.90, 2.25.91.1, 2.25.92, and 2.26.0 has been released after the current one in the repo, maybe more between 0.8.2 to 0.9.0 as well. how come?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> clarks: sure as long as your client supports viwing webcams
[16:52] <HammerHead66> ﻿kematzy: no big deal just helping when I can
[16:52] <clarks> ActionParsnip, yeah my client support webcams..but i dont what program to use to see her/his webcam..
[16:52] <Ariana> ok so on a 30gb hdd, what size would you make the needed partitions for ubuntu, and in what order? root - swap - home?
[16:52] <chi_> ariana: consider the small drive and just chose 2-4 gig swap instead of 8 gig^^
[16:53] <IrBudelloDiTuMa> bella zio
[16:53] <cesc> Hello.
[16:53] <jase_> ariana, how much ram do you have
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> clarks: you are misunderstanding me
[16:53] <Ariana> 4gb
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> clarks: the client you use is the program, it is a chat client
[16:53] <Ariana> but other computers i want to use it with might have less
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> clarks: like MSN messenger is a chat CLIENT
[16:54] <jase_> set it to 4gb then
[16:54] <cristi_> hello how can i destroy my windows cd?
[16:54] <clarks> ActionParsnip, ok2..pidgin can?
[16:54] <cesc> When I plug in an external HDD/USB-stick it gets automatically mounted. However, all file permissions are set to +rwx oO   Is there any way to bypass this?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> clarks: im unsure, ive never used anything do do with webcams in a non professional situation, try it, if its bad try other clients, depends on the protocol you are using
[16:55] <jase_> clarks i dont think pidgin supports webcam currently and if it does its very experimental
[16:55] <HammerHead66> ﻿cristi_: microwave it lol
[16:55] <cristi_> good idea
[16:55] <clarks> jase_, so what in ubuntu can support webcam in client chat?
[16:55] <eqisow1> clarks: pidgin doesn't have webcam support. try amsn or kopete (kopete is a KDE app, however)
[16:55] <Ariana> so if i have 6.5g ext3 then 4gb swap2 then 17.4gb ext3 is that right or?
[16:56] <cristi_> HammerHead66: very good idea
[16:56] <arvind_khadri> clarks, kopete does
[16:56] <XiXaQ> Ekiga supports webcam.
[16:56] <HammerHead66> ﻿cristi_; you get a nice show too lol
[16:56] <bosky101> i'm working with flex,yacc on ubuntu... by default, would it work with unicode tokens as well?
[16:56] <jase_> try amsn
[16:56] <clarks> jase_, how to get amsn in terminal?
[16:56] <user___> XiXaQ: ekiga in intrepid is "old" and problems arise. jaunty is much better
[16:57] <lstarnes> clarks: try sudo aptitude install amsn
[16:57] <jase_> clarks if you goto amsn's site im sure they have excellent documentation for it
[16:57] <cristi_> hello i use  camorama for my webcam but the image is very dark do you know how to make it brighter?
[16:57] <jase_> wouldnt hurt to read.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> clarks: sudo apt-get install amsn
[16:57] <XiXaQ> lstarnes: are you familiar with apt urls? apt://amsn
[16:57] <lstarnes> XiXaQ: most people don't use apt:// urls
[16:57] <XiXaQ> .,x
[16:57] <Ariana> is it even possible to make ubuntu work off an external drive like that?
[16:58] <shippo> I was following this site http://layer8problem.blogspot.com/2008/10/howto-remote-desktop-to-xubuntu-710.html but when I got to vino-session it states command not found?
[16:58] <XiXaQ> woops. lstarnes; it's much better than copying and pasting commands to be run as root.
[16:58] <HammerHead66> ﻿clarks: if you use pidgin it will allow you to use many at the same time on many diffrent accounst
[16:58] <jase_> ariana yes its possible to run ubuntu off a usb drive as an actual install
[16:58] <jase_> look up unetbootin
[16:58] <j-b-r> Can anyone help me with my soundcard?
[16:58] <clarks> HammerHead66, yeah i know..
[16:58] <cristi_> hello i want to make a voice call to a yahoo ID but i don`t such a program can you help me?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> j-b-r: can you give details and the room will advise (if it can)
[16:59] <XiXaQ> j-b-r: only a super-duper-ultra-mega-expert would answer yes to that question.
[16:59] <cristi_> hello i want to make a voice call to a yahoo ID but i don`t know such a program can you help me?
[16:59] <j-b-r> Ok, so the problem is that I can't use the gameport.
[16:59] <j-b-r> Sound works, though
[16:59] <cristi_> hello i want to make a voice call to a yahoo ID but i don`t know such a program can you help me?
[16:59] <arvind_khadri> cristi_, gyachi
[17:00] <jase_> cristi have you tried pidgin?
[17:00] <Ariana> jase thanks downloading now - it wont modify my boot sector will it?
[17:00] <Elijah> how do I use terminal to cut files in one folder to another and then delete the soruce folder
[17:00] <cristi_> gyachi is a program ok ill try
[17:00] <jase_> cristi: i think pidgin has yahoo voice support
[17:00] <j-b-r> I have to connect the speakers to a different port than the ones near the gameport itself though
[17:00] <j-b-r> Which leads me to believe I have two separate sound cards
[17:00] <LjL> Elijah: "man mv", "man cp", "man rm"
[17:00] <cristi_> pidgin ca not support voice calls
[17:00] <jase_> ariana, no. it will only modify the content of the usb
[17:00] <j-b-r> Even though lspci and aplay dissagree
[17:00] <kristian2> SecretBnC : most likely everyone here. :-P
[17:01] <Ariana> ok perfect thanks
[17:01] <j-b-r> They both say I just have the one
[17:01] <kristian2> SecretBnC : oops! nvm. i browsed back and forgot to browse back down again in irssi. :-P
[17:01] <ubuntistas> can i have a touch screen in ubuntu 8.10?
[17:01] <jase_> cristi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414121 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81895
[17:02] <j-b-r> I've tried all the obvious stuff such as loading different modules
[17:02] <j-b-r> but that has absolutely no effect
[17:02] <j-b-r> It's almost like the ports I see aren't connected to anything on the inside...
[17:02] <n8tuser> ubuntistas-> i believe you can, my friend has his tablet working with ubuntu
[17:02] <NotADJ> Are the updates in intrepid-preposed safe?
[17:03] <KoolD> hey all please help,,,,just had update of ubuntu and now the wifi has stopped working.
[17:03] <Frijolie> when you "lock your desktop" is the password to get back in NOT the same as the one you log back in with?
[17:03] <n8tuser> NotADJ-> perhaps save your xorg.conf and interfaces files first
[17:03] <user___> NotADJ: no 100%, thats why they are in proposed
[17:03] <ubuntistas> n8tuser how can i do that?
[17:03] <Frijolie> log back in = gdm password?
[17:03] <HammerHead66> ﻿cristi_: I would look at VOIP help pages and programs to find out more
[17:03] <cristi_> ok
[17:03] <n8tuser> ubuntistas-> i dont know, as i dont know as i dont own a touchscreen unit
[17:03] <cristi_> i found gyachi and it seems that is what i need thanks for help?
[17:03] <jase_> cristi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414121 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81895
[17:04] <n8tuser> KoolD-> whats the chips on your wifi nic card?
[17:05] <Nightchill> ubuntu 8.10 uses pulseaudio, not alsa?
[17:05] <lstarnes> Nightchill: it uses both
[17:05] <dayo> Frijolie: yes
[17:05] <Nightchill> lstarnes: ok, but does it use pulse via alsa-plugins?
[17:05] <jase_> yes night
[17:05] <j-b-r> The card that everything says I have is an Intel AC'97
[17:05] <vixus> Is the procedure for compiling the rt kernel any different from compiling the generic one? In terms of source to download etc..
[17:06] <KoolD> n8tuser:AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[17:06] <Frijolie> dayo, hmmm..it's not working now
[17:06] <jase_> intel ac'97 is the same as realtek ac'97
[17:06] <Nightchill> hmm ok
[17:06] <dayo> Frijolie: check that CapsLock is off
[17:06] <Frijolie> dayo, yeah it's off
[17:06] <jase_> if all else fails goto realtek and find the linux driver for it
[17:06] <n8tuser> KoolD-> what does it tell you of the driver it uses when you do sudo lshw -C network
[17:06] <Elijah> LjL: Can you help me out a bit more, I still am not sure which commands to use. I run "mv [folder name] [target directory]" and it says "same file"
[17:06] <Ariana> anyone have a quick URL to a list of hardware that ubuntu has drivers for?
[17:06] <Frijolie> it says "incorrect password", so I switch user and log in with that same password via gdm
[17:07] <joetheodd> What is this "Launching HTTP cache cleaner" thing that shows up every 5 minutes?
[17:07] <LjL> Elijah: err, what did you type, exactly?
[17:07] <dayo> Frijolie: and u're sure u're using the same password u used to login with at boot up?
[17:07] <Frijolie> dayo, of course
[17:07] <jase_> !hardware
[17:07] <KoolD> n8user: it gives a netwok unclaimed
[17:07] <j-b-r> No help for me :(
[17:07] <dayo> Frijolie: are u sure it's the same user that the screen is locked for?
[17:08] <n8tuser> KoolD-> it means it has not loaded or found the correct driver to load,
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> j-b-r: what sound card is it?
[17:08] <jase_> its ac'97
[17:08] <jase_> pretty common card
[17:08] <jase_> in alot of systems
[17:08] <j-b-r> That's waht everything says
[17:08] <Frijolie> dayo, there is only one user on this computer, unless that user has multiple personalities that are created without my knowledge within the OS
[17:08] <djiin> Hi. I
[17:08] <Jeruvy> j-b-r: can you 'sudo lshw' and tell us exactly what chipset your ac-97 isusing?
[17:09] <dayo> Frijolie: well, it all seems quite strange
[17:09] <KoolD> n8user: had the same prob before it was solved when i installed linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic but it does not seem to work now
[17:09] <Frijolie> dayo, hence my appearance on this IRC chatroom
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> jase_: ac'97 isnt a soundcard, its a sound chip type
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> j-b-r: http://swik.net/Ubuntu/Only+Ubuntu/How+to+Set-up+a+gameport,gamepad+or+joystick+in+Ubuntu/3iqr
[17:09] <dayo> Frijolie: which screensaver app are u using? which desktop env?
[17:09] <jase_> i know i know. soundcard/chip. same diff to me for reference. it produces sound, it has drivers
[17:10] <j-b-r> ActionParsnip: I've tried that page already
[17:10] <n8tuser> KoolD-> try it again, to make sure the driver for AR242 is loaded
[17:10] <gabbah> hello! I'm trying sudo chown gabriel -Rv * and the command says it changed owner to gabriel on a bunch of files. But later when i do ls -al it shows that the ownder is still root on all files?
[17:10] <j-b-r> I'm looking through lshw now...
[17:10] <Frijolie> dayo, it's not being locked via a screensaver..i was just testing it out and forcing the screen to lock
[17:10] <vixus> Anyone else have the nvidia issue with the rt kernel?
[17:10] <rashed2020> Ok I have a really weird problem now
[17:10] <Frijolie> dayo, I'm suing GNOME and Metacity, screen saver is "blank screen"
[17:10] <vixus> Because I think I just went into a kernel compile unnecessarily
[17:10] <demon> vixus,  i have nvidia and not problems :)
[17:10] <TwoToneSpirit> Is there a way, without using terminal commands, to instruct that a drive be automatically mounted at boot?
[17:10] <rashed2020> I can SSH into my box from my LAN, but my box can't ping any LAN or internet IPs
[17:10] <Frijolie> dayo, theme is set to "human" and I'm not using the 24-hour clock and my BIOS is set to UTC
[17:11] <vixus> demon, well after a recent kernel upgrade (through apt) ubuntu would boot into low-graphics mode when using the rt kernel
[17:11] <user___> TwoToneSpirit: you need to edit /etc/fstab with a gui or terminal editor
[17:11] <Frijolie> dayo and my favorite food is squid and peanutbutter
[17:11] <rashed2020> I've given it a static IP and it's been working fine until recently
[17:11] <Formoden> Trying to find something to do a raw-write to my flash drive from an .img file.. ANyone know any?
[17:11] <HammerHead66> ﻿rashed2020: did you try to use network tools to ping with?
[17:11] <j-b-r> product: 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller
[17:11] <vixus> there's a bunch of stuff about nvidia not behaving well with thelatest  rt kernels
[17:11] <rashed2020> what network tools?
[17:11] <TwoToneSpirit> user___: Yeah, I know about /etc/fstab.  But for someone who is less comfortable editing a config file, there isn't, at this time, a way to do it with a menu-driven method?
[17:11] <dayo> Frijolie: AHA!! It's the peanutbutter! :-P
[17:12] <rashed2020> It's not resolving names either =/
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> rashed2020 you dont need a tool, yuo can ping from terminal
[17:12] <Frijolie> dayo, anything else you can think of?
[17:12] <jase_> Formoden: for what purpose? a distro iso?
[17:12] <rashed2020> That's what I did.
[17:12] <HammerHead66> ﻿rashed2020: system/admin/network tools
[17:12] <Formoden> jase_ Yes, Arch Linux USV FTP install.
[17:12] <rashed2020> ping google.com and ping 192.168.1.1 give me nothing
[17:12] <dayo> Frijolie: honestly, no. i can't imagine what the problem is.
[17:12] <rashed2020> HammerHead66: I don't have a window manager
[17:12] <jase_> formoden: have you tried unetbootin?
[17:12] <shippo> I was following this site http://layer8problem.blogspot.com/2008/10/howto-remote-desktop-to-xubuntu-710.html but when I got to vino-session it states command not found?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> HammerHead66: why do you need a tool when ping runs fine from the terminal?
[17:12] <user___> TwoToneSpirit: dont know of one, had a quick gui browse only, though.
[17:13] <Formoden> jase_ Sec, leme apt-get it
[17:13] <Frijolie> dayo, hmm, d'oh!
[17:13] <Formoden> jase_ Nothing by that name in apt-get
[17:13] <HammerHead66> I didn't know he was running in terminal.
[17:13] <HammerHead66> my bad
[17:13] <rashed2020> So pinging doesn't work, it doesn't resolve DNS names but it still accepts connections =/
[17:13] <cristi_> how can i get the effects that beryl has and compiz-fusion does not have them?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> HammerHead66: thats not my question. why do you need to run network tools just to ping? ping works fine from terminal
[17:14] <jase_> Formoden:  yea its not an official port googe it. they have a source forge site. doesnt need install just a single file that you right click and give execute permision
[17:14] <cristi_> how can i get the effects that beryl has and compiz-fusion not?
[17:14] <Formoden> jase_ okay.
[17:14] <j-b-r> product: 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller. That's what it says.
[17:14] <HammerHead66> it's just another way to do it that's all
[17:14] <Elijah> LjL:  I typed "mv drupal-6.10 /home/eliscloud/public_html" - I was in public_html when I ran teh command.
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> j-b-r: ok do you see any joysticks if you fire up jscallibrator?
[17:14] <l337ingDisorder> Can anyone help? I'm trying to get partimage-server running on an old dapper server. I need to run partimaged-0.6.7 but the dapper package is 0.6.4 so I built partimage from source, but the partimaged-passwd binary is missing so I can't create any users! I copied the partimaged-passwd binary from another system, but it requires db4.6-util to be built and that fails
[17:14] <j-b-r> Nope.
[17:14] <Frijolie> anybody else have an idea?
[17:15] <rashed2020> HammerHead66: No other suggestions?
[17:15] <jase_> cristi_: have you tried apt getting the compiz config manager?
[17:15] <LjL> Elijah: err, so you *have* tried to move a file onto itself? that doesn't make very much sense does it?
[17:15] <vixus> Frijolie, what's up?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> j-b-r: does it pickup if you have it connected and reboot?
[17:15] <cristi_> yes
[17:15] <HammerHead66> ﻿rashed2020: go to www.whatismyip.com
[17:15] <cristi_> jase : yes
[17:15] <djiin> I get this message whenever I sync my iPod The volume 'Djiin iPod' uses the hfsplus file system which is not supported by your system.
[17:15] <j-b-r> No, that's what I just did.
[17:15] <jase_> cristi_:  and that doesnt have what you want?
[17:15] <TwoToneSpirit> Frijolie:  In a concise way, what's the question again?
[17:15] <cristi_> no
[17:15] <Frijolie> vixus, when I lock my screen and attempt to log back in that password isn't the same as my GDM logon password
[17:15] <cristi_> jase:no
[17:15] <djiin> I've installed gtkpod yet I still get it
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> j-b-r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=330607
[17:16] <cristi_> jase:i want that effect with cube deformation
[17:16] <shippo> is there a how-to someone can recommend to get remote desktop to work on a local network on xubuntu?
[17:16] <Frijolie> vixus, TwoToneSpirit, I log on to my computer using my username/password. I then lock my screen (ctrl+alt+l) and attempt to immediately log back on
[17:16] <jase_> cristi_: i know compiz has the cube not sure what the deformation is. not really used those programs
[17:16] <TwoToneSpirit> cristi_: Compiz has cube deformation
[17:16] <j-b-r> ActionParsnip: I've tried that already but I guess I'll try again now
[17:17] <vixus> Frijolie, well gdm doesn't use a separate password from the rest of the system
[17:17] <Padhu_1> just install vnc server and vnc viewer
[17:17] <Guessy> How do i enable Compiz's features
[17:17] <Frijolie> vixus, TwoToneSpirit, using that same password (used at GDM logon) and it's telling me "incorrect password". So I switch user's and log back on using that original username/password and it allows me back on
[17:17] <cristi_> jase: the latest version of compiz has cube deformation but is unstable
[17:17] <Elijah> LjL: I am a noob, How do i select the contents of the folder and move them to the parent folder?
[17:17] <shippo> Padhu_1 was that directed at me?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> j-b-r: all i can do is websearch
[17:17] <vixus> Frijolie, maybe the lock screen is interpreting symbols from the keyboard incorrectly
[17:17] <TwoToneSpirit> Guessy:  Do yourself a favor and install the package compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:18] <Frijolie> vixus, how do you check that?
[17:18] <HammerHead66> ﻿Elijah: click and drag and drop like in windows
[17:18] <jase_> Elijah: mv /target/* /target
[17:18] <rashed2020> Ok just switched it to DHCP and I'm still getting the same thing
[17:18] <vixus> Frijolie, change your password to something that only uses letters and numbers
[17:18] <vixus> Frijolie then try
[17:18] <TwoToneSpirit> cristi_: My experience with cube deformation, as of Intrepid, is that it works perfectly
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Elijah: use nautilus + mouse
[17:18] <twolane> shippo: have you used the menu item, system > preferences > remote desktop ON the remote target machine to configure remote desktop?
[17:18] <user___> Elijah: just a hint, #bash has excellent links in it's channel topic
[17:18] <dayo> Elijah: mv * ../
[17:18] <renderab> could anyone help with an Ubuntu 8.10 problem?
[17:18] <TwoToneSpirit> Frijolie: I second vixus' solution
[17:18] <Elijah> Drupal-6.10 is a folder in my public_html folder, I want to put the contents of the drupal folder in another folder. I am using SSH.
[17:18] <shippo> twolane: yes
[17:18] <Frijolie> vixus, i don't have special characters in my password--it's all alphanumeric
[17:18] <mbrigdan> Is there a way that I can see specific information about my CPU, such as current clock speed, and a way to test stability?
[17:18] <TwoToneSpirit> !questions | renderab
[17:18] <Padhu_1> shippo, yes
[17:18] <cristi_> bye
[17:19] <j-b-r> Ok. this might be something: I have gamport used by analog loaded, and analog itself, but niehter of those are connect4ed to anything else
[17:19] <Frijolie> vixus, TwoToneSpirit, letters, number, and change of case
[17:19] <twolane> shippo: does a netstat -tunap on the remote box show the server running on port 5900?
[17:19] <shippo> twolane: reread and no I have not as there is no remote desktop in preferences in xubuntu
[17:19] <renderab> When I run update manager I get this: "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5"
[17:19] <vixus> Frijolie.. strange.. try a password that's all one number. I can only imagine your keyboard layout is being remapped or something
[17:19] <dayo> Elijah: mv <nameOfYourDrupFolder> ../
[17:19] <clarks> ubuntu can support cctv or spy cam?
[17:20] <Elijah> dayo: I just want the contents of the folder, not the folder itself to be moved
[17:20] <vixus> :D
[17:20] <HammerHead66> ﻿clarks: yes
[17:20] <user___> mbrigdan: cat /proc/cpuinfo could be a start
[17:20] <Padhu> shippo: $ sudo apt-get install vncserver vncviewer
[17:20] <dayo> Elijah: change in the folder, then do this:    mv * ../
[17:20] <shippo> Padhu_1: I thought I didn't have to install vnc server to get remote desktop to see the other system
[17:20] <clarks> HammerHead66, any documentation about it?where i can find it?
[17:20] <twolane> shippo: xubuntu i'm not familiar with, suggest you search that in synaptic.
[17:20] <bedo2991> Hi, I'm from live CD ubuntu intrepid 8.10 64 bit. I can't mount my exernal Hard disk drive (USB). If I double click it nothing happens. Neither if i choose "Mount"
[17:20] <LjL> Elijah, you don't "select" anything in the console... you specify filenames or patterns. for instance "mv /home/eliscloud/public_html/drupal-6.10 /home/eliscloud/", assuming that's what you want to do (also, your home can be shortened to ~/ or $HOME/)
[17:20] <vixus> Frijolie, any joy?
[17:20] <Cpudan80> renderab: You didn't add the PPA's GPG key
[17:20] <dayo> Elijah is also my son's name lol
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> shippo: if you are wanting to connect via rdp you can use rdesktop
[17:21] <I-Shot-Kennedy> Anyone know how to improve image zoom quality in browsers like Opera or Firefox? (zoom quality is much, MUCH better under Windows for some reason with those browsers)
[17:21] <Cpudan80> !ppa | renderab
[17:21] <shippo> Padhu: at least according to  http://layer8problem.blogspot.com/2008/10/howto-remote-desktop-to-xubuntu-710.html
[17:21] <Padhu> shippo: Remote machine must have vncserver
[17:21] <Cpudan80> Padhu: wrong
[17:21] <Cpudan80> Padhu: Server machine needs vncserver -- all others just need viewer
[17:21] <HammerHead66>  ﻿clarks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1016491
[17:21] <renderab> ppas gpg key?  Not sure what u mean, update manager never used to give this error.  It still seems to check for updates though
[17:22] <Padhu> exactly
[17:22] <shippo> Cpudan80: so I have to have a server?
[17:22] <Frijolie> vixus, remind me how to change my password
[17:22] <Cpudan80> shippo: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/
[17:22] <TwoToneSpirit> renderab:  I had this problem a while back, and I cannot remember what I did to resolve it.   "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available"
[17:22] <Cpudan80> shippo: still works with Gutsy/Hardy/Intrepid
[17:22] <HammerHead66> ﻿clarks: or http://search.ubuntu.com/results2.html?cx=009650792990864903260%3A-lsdjshi1tu&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=cctv&sa=Search#1102
[17:23] <maboughey> can anyone help me with removing the Atheros 8.2.11 wireless LAN cards drivers?
[17:23] <Cpudan80> shippo: the gdm thing is now at /etc/gdm/gdm.conf -- that's the only difference
[17:23] <shippo> Cpudan80: thanks I will look at the info
[17:23] <renderab> Twotonespirit: As long as its still checking for updates its not a problem (I hope this is the case)
[17:23] <lstarnes> renderab: go to the page for that ppa and download the gpg key from there then use apt-key to add the key to the list of known keys
[17:23] <KoolD> maboughey:whats the problem
[17:25] <maboughey> KoolD, I have two drivvers under hardware drivers, "Support for 5xxx series of Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards" and "support for Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards" the one with 5xxx works but i have to disable and re-enable it on reboot. I think it may be the other driver confilcting with it
[17:26] <maboughey> conflicting*
[17:26] <Frijolie> vixus, changed passwords, same result
[17:26] <Elijah> dayo: Nice!
[17:26] <dayo> Elijah: it worked? cool
[17:27] <maboughey> KoolD,  I was wondering if there were a way to remove the driver
[17:28] <KoolD> maboughey: had the same problem right now...i dont know about it conflicting but the problem was solved by blacklisting two modules
[17:28] <KoolD> maboughey
[17:28] <voice5sur5> anyone tried savage 2?
[17:28] <maboughey> KoolD, which ones? and how do i black list them? sorry i'm kinda a newb at some things
[17:29] <voice5sur5> i won't open
[17:29] <voice5sur5> just one blink and thats all
[17:29] <Frijolie> TwoToneSpirit, vixus, could I have changed a setting somewhere?
[17:29] <voice5sur5> it*
[17:29] <KoolD> maboughey:try lshw -C network
[17:29] <TwoToneSpirit> Frijolie:  I don't know.  I assume you have googled this?  Anybody else having the same or similar issues?
[17:29] <ugliefrog> is there a way to upgrade gimp from the commad line
[17:30] <anw_semiaway> does somebody know, how to change monitor resolution from command line ??
[17:30] <Elijah> dayo: No, I am still working on it.
[17:30] <Elijah> dayo: I was referring to your sons name.
[17:31] <djiin> Hi, I need help syncing my iPod to Ubuntu
[17:31] <maboughey> KoolD, http://pastebin.com/m62814bd0
[17:31] <michael> When does Jaunty come out?
[17:31] <arthur_> question? riping cd to mp3 and i want to copy the track names and album info whats a good program to use?
[17:31] <HammerHead66>  ﻿anw_semiaway: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12160
[17:31] <Frijolie> TwoToneSpirit, yeah I've googled it and just had my buddy try it and his works
[17:31] <user___> !jaunty | michael
[17:31] <Frijolie> michael, next month
[17:31] <michael> hmmm, yeah, I knew april. I was wondering what day in april?
[17:31] <mister_roboto> voice5sur5: hey, i have to apologize to you. i tried setting up runlevel on boot and it's not working from grub. used to do this in a prior version of ubuntu but always defaulting to 2 now.
[17:32] <Ariana> another question [you guys have been so helpful already] - do i want 32bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[17:32] <ugliefrog> is there a way to upgrade gimp from the commad line
[17:32] <Padhu> totem player plays 3gp format vedio without audio, what is the solution?
[17:32] <voice5sur5> mister_roboto, no problem
[17:32] <user___> mister_roboto: see the schedule link
[17:32] <user___> sorry
[17:32] <HammerHead66> ﻿Ariana: what cpu are u using?
[17:32] <voice5sur5> do you know savage 2?
[17:32] <Ariana> intel core2duo
[17:32] <user___> michael: see the schedule link
[17:32] <Ariana> t7400
[17:32] <Padhu> ugliefrog: $sudo apt-get upgrae gimp
[17:32] <michael> I see that now. Thanks
[17:32] <shippo> okay I installed x11vnc and ran x11vnc -localhost -forever and from the other machine did sudo xvnc4viewer and when the pop box for the vnc server came up typed the ip address of this machine, now it states "unable to connect to host: Connection refused (111)"
[17:33] <Dave123-road> Ariana, 64-bits is the future ;-)
[17:33] <HammerHead66> ﻿Ariana: you can use 64bit or 32 bit
[17:33] <Ariana> i know i can use either, but which is better?
[17:33] <HammerHead66> ﻿Ariana: I like 64 bit myself
[17:33] <Ariana> i mean will there be all the drivers on 64bit version, cause that stuff's quite new isnt it?
[17:33] <Dave123-road> Ariana, try 64 bits
[17:33] <user___> Ariana: for your case i suggest 32bit since you spoke about using different computers..
[17:34] <Ariana> well i dont think any of the computers would be that old tbh
[17:34] <KoolD> maboughey:your card seems to be working well and the drivers are installed too.....guess u should check ifconfig and see if the wireless interfaces are up
[17:34] <Padhu> shippo: are you defined user for vncserver
[17:34] <shippo> Padhu: not sure what that means
[17:34] <Ariana> i mean is there a big drawback to using 32 over 64?
[17:34] <ugliefrog> Padhu: Well it didnt upgrade to the current..but thank you anyway
[17:35] <Padhu> make conform the name given in X11 config file
[17:35] <Alzombie> OLOLOLOL NEWBZ
[17:35] <maboughey> KoolD, Yes it does work, but when i reboot my computer, I have to disable and re-enable the drivers for it, I dont think the modules are loading on boot
[17:35] <arthur_> question? riping cd to mp3 and i want to copy the track names and album info whats a good program to use?
[17:35] <HammerHead66> ﻿Ariana: not anymore really they just about have everything better for 64 bit and it will only get better
[17:35] <ginfomatikz> Is there a way to REMOVE all of a program- I messed up a program (netbeans) and I want to get rid of everything and start new
[17:35] <oCean_> Ariana: unless you really want/need to address >4GB RAM, choose 32bit
[17:36] <Ariana> ok
[17:36] <Emo> n00bz
[17:36] <user___> ginfomatikz: aptitude purge $package
[17:36] <ginfomatikz> im a n00b so
[17:36] <rashed2020> Ok I may have gotten closer!
[17:36] <oCean_> Ariana: 64-bit binaries do *not* run twice as fast, so you are unlikely to notice any discernible speed differences
[17:36] <MrKeuner> hi all how can I restart a running GUI application from the terminal?
[17:36] <arthur_> question? riping cd to mp3 and i want to copy the track names and album info whats a good program to use?
[17:36] <ginfomatikz> apptitude purge $netbeans
[17:37] <Ariana> right, that makes sense
[17:37] <user___> ginfomatikz: wait .. ;-)
[17:37] <ginfomatikz> is that how to do it?
[17:37] <rashed2020> The box hangs at "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)". At that point it can accept incoming connections
[17:37] <oCean_> arthur_: I suggest "grip"
[17:37] <oCean_> !info grip | arthur_
[17:37] <ginfomatikz> I already tried sudo apt-get purge netbeans, and remove
[17:37] <HammerHead66> ﻿MrKeuner: Ctrl+Alt+F7
[17:38] <user___> ginfomatikz: first you need to find out the exact package name: try this: apt-cache search netbeans. what would you choose?
[17:38] <ginfomatikz> i rendered the program unuseful
[17:38] <MrKeuner> HammerHead66, what would that do? :)
[17:38] <HammerHead66> ﻿MrKeuner: it should take you to GUI
[17:38] <oCean_> arthur_: Also install "lame", since that's the mp3 encoder you can use in grip
[17:38] <MrKeuner> HammerHead66, heh OK
[17:38] <shippo> okay I installed x11vnc and ran x11vnc -localhost -forever and from the other machine did sudo xvnc4viewer and when the pop box for the vnc server came up typed the ip address of this machine, now it states "unable to connect to host: Connection refused (111)"
[17:39] <verywiseman> what is good program that can manage internet bandwidth btw hosts in LAN?
[17:39] <ginfomatikz> user__ when I do that i dont get any thing clear i get a lot back with long lnames
[17:39] <Errietta> Do you helpo w/  apache?
[17:39] <lstarnes> Errietta: possibly, but #apache is probably a better channel
[17:39] <oCean_> Errietta: ask you question, and see if anyone knows the answer
[17:39] <Errietta> i'm banned from #apache u know
[17:39] <Errietta> :D
[17:39] <HammerHead66> lol
[17:40] <KoolD> maboughey:  i had the same problem minutes before ...add 'blacklist ath_hal' and 'blacklist ath_pci' in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist this was what solved my problem
[17:40] <user___> ginfomatikz: you just get all packages with netbeans in the description field. the package is netbeans. does sudo aptitude purge netbeans work for you? please pastebin your output if not
[17:40] <MrKeuner> From the terminal, how can I restart a running application?
[17:40] <Padhu> shippo : type ip:1 . this will ask username and password
[17:40] <Errietta> basically i want http://pokemonlake.com/map(somemap).php to go to http://pokemonlake.com/sel2.php?map=(somemap)
[17:40] <Errietta> BUT
[17:40] <Errietta>  i want http://www.pokemonlake.com/map(somemap).php to go to http://www.pokemonlake.com/sel2.php?map=(somemap)
[17:40] <Errietta> got it?
[17:40] <oCean_> Errietta: hm. Then I suggest you read the topic and code of conduct for this channel
[17:40] <ginfomatikz> i re-aranged all the menus installed a bunch of plugins and now i want to reset it
[17:41] <joaopinto> MrKeuner, you can kill it, with "pkill appname", and then run it, with appname, where appname is the binary for the app
[17:41] <lstarnes> Errietta: I think that woulf involve using apache's mod_rewrite
[17:41] <lstarnes> *would
[17:41] <Errietta> i tried this
[17:41] <Errietta> RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} http://pokemonlake\.com/ [NC]
[17:41] <Errietta> RewriteRule map(.*)\.php$ http://pokemonlake.com/sel2.php?map=$1
[17:41] <Errietta> RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} http://www.pokemonlake\.com/ [NC]
[17:41] <Errietta> RewriteRule map(.*)\.php$ http://www.pokemonlake.com/sel2.php?map=$1
[17:41] <FloodBot1> Errietta: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <mister_roboto> MrKeuner: is it a daemon that started on boot?
[17:41] <user___> !quote | ginfomatikz
[17:41] <shippo> Padhu: type it where?
[17:41] <MrKeuner> mister_roboto, no a GUI app
[17:41] <Errietta> Sorry but pastebin spamfiltered it..
[17:41] <user___> ginfomatikz: please quote my nick in your replys ;-)
[17:41] <ginfomatikz> it says 68 things to remove
[17:41] <MrKeuner> mister_roboto, regular app no daemon
[17:41] <Choobie> Hey guys, quick question about device.map
[17:41] <sky_> how i can check which gnome version i have ?
[17:42] <lstarnes> sky_: system > about gnome
[17:42] <voice5sur5> do app / system about gnome
[17:42] <Chaoman60> i less than three less than three less than three less than three less than three less than three ubuntu
[17:42] <sky_> tahnk you :-*
[17:42] <mister_roboto> MrKeuner: what joaopinto said :)
[17:42] <unitedpotsmokers> hi guys... good morning...
[17:42] <HammerHead66> ﻿sky_: are you in GUI
[17:42] <ginfomatikz> how do you quote a name and what is the pastebin site again
[17:42] <user___> ginfomatikz: so why not purge them?
[17:42] <oCean_> !pastebin > ginfomatikz
[17:42] <user___> !pastebin | ginfomatikz
[17:42] <MrKeuner> mister_roboto, I'd rather like to have just one command to restart the app
[17:43] <oliverl> Hi, is here someone experienced in vdr / streamdev plugin?
[17:43] <Choobie> I have a fd0 in my device.map, anyone know what that is? Perhaps my DVD drive?
[17:43] <dayo> !who | ginfomatikz
[17:43] <voice5sur5> MrKeuner, do man poweroff
[17:43] <HammerHead66> ﻿sky_: GUI= Graphic user interface
[17:43] <vixus>  /EXIT
[17:43] <lstarnes> Choobie: fd0 = floppy disk 0
[17:43] <voice5sur5> or use app launcher with reboot as command
[17:43] <Choobie> lstarnes: I don't have a floppy drive in my computer...
[17:43] <sky_> HammerHead66: they answered the question....but thanks for trying to help me...:)
[17:43] <mister_roboto> MrKeuner: then you'll probably have to write some sort of restart script yourself :)
[17:43] <voice5sur5> lstarnes, what a shame / floppy !!
[17:44] <lstarnes> Choobie: dvd and cdrom drives are usually /dev/sr* or /dev/scd*
[17:44] <HammerHead66> ﻿sky_: np
[17:44] <MrKeuner> mister_roboto, why wouldnt't kill -HUP work
[17:44] <Choobie> lstarnes: I am getting an error 17 in grub and I think it is because I plugged in a second hard drive after install
[17:44] <ginfomatikz> user__ may bad i have not used IRC in like 5 years how do  you use tab?
[17:44] <Choobie> lstarnes: my primary master is my dvd drive, primary slave is the second drive I plugged in, and secondary slave is my OS
[17:45] <lstarnes> Choobie: in that case, either change the number of the second drive, or edit grub's config to use the new number of the old drive
[17:45] <Choobie> lstarnes: should I just re-install grub?
[17:45] <user___> ginfomatikz: type u s e tab
[17:45] <mister_roboto> MrKeuner: some programs will respond to various signals USR1 or HUP or whatever and reread config, but you're talking about totally restarting the process
[17:45] <Choobie> lstarnes: will try that :D
[17:45] <yuri123> q: when I use the "links -dump <url>" command it outputs the result on screen but how do i get it to save to a text file? ive tried the ">" but it ends up blank
[17:45] <MrKeuner> mister_roboto, hmm yes
[17:45] <ginfomatikz> use tab user__  does that work?
[17:45] <lstarnes> Choobie: if the OS drive was the primary slave, it should probably still be the primary slave
[17:46] <vlad50> i am dual booting xp and ubuntu, i installed the proprietary driver for my video card and restarted. now the screen stays blank when i try to boot xp or ubuntu.
[17:46] <MrKeuner> mister_roboto, so there is no standart unix command for restarting a process. OK
[17:46] <user___> ginfomatikz: in my client only, when you start with user___ (not sure if thats a glitch in the software)
[17:46] <Choobie> lstarnes: I am fairly certain that it was always the secondary master, I could check but I would have to shutdown
[17:46] <tj83_> hi all.... i need some guidance in setting my ubuntu server to start a program at bootup in whatever userspace runlevel is appropriate , I have created a start up script, it works, i have created a symbolic link to its location in /etc/rc5.d/ but it never executes. any suggestions?
[17:47] <Choobie> lstarnes: I didn't do anything but plug the new harddrive into an empty connector
[17:47] <lstarnes> tj83_: ubuntu uses runlevel 2 by default
[17:47] <jrib> tj83_: runlevel 5 is not the default runlevel
[17:47] <lstarnes> tj83_: there is an update-rc.d script I think
[17:47] <PaigeWitchyWoman> What's this about?
[17:47] <rorozarzar> ubuntu
[17:48] <tj83_> lstarnes, jrgp ok, i will move the link to runlevel 2.... i tried 3 and 5 so will give a shot... yea i dont know about an rc.d script but i want to really understand the runlevels and linux in general so will do it manually.
[17:48] <tj83_> thanks
[17:48] <PaigeWitchyWoman> bleh
[17:48] <lstarnes> tj83_: make sure you also include the appropriate symlinks in /etc/rc0.d/ and /etc/rc6.d/
[17:48] <unitedpotsmokers> yesterday night last time i use ubuntu hardy. then i felt i want to try to upgrade intrepid ibex. when update complete i restart my laptop and cannot connect to internet. it can connect to my wireless modem but i cannot surf, why this happen, can someone explain to me?
[17:49] <linux_stu> when i boot my mom's computer, network manager has to access the password keyring, so i have to type in a password.  however, the only password that functions correctly is the original password for her account that i established during installation.  why won't her new password work?
[17:49] <linux_stu> how can i fix this?
[17:49] <kristian2> i've tried to burn a data dvd with both brasero and k3b now, no luck. i start the burning process, and once the burning is complete, both programs open the disc tray, which is not good because im on a laptop. so i try to close the tray manually and see if the programs can continue doing the checksum, but they can't. i know the data has been burnt, but i want the data to be checked as well. not sure if this problem is only for me, or laptop
[17:49] <user___> kristian2: also had this problem
[17:49] <oCean_> unitedpotsmokers: can you ping www.google.com?
[17:50] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian2: when burning did you check the box for it to test after burning?
[17:50] <lardoman1> .
[17:51] <unitedpotsmokers> oCean_: i think cannot, because when i open firefox, i try to surf google or yahoo, nothing display... i also try to access to my modem configuration, it cannt also
[17:51] <ginfomatikz> user__  here is the paste  http://paste.ubuntu.com/135503/  :-)
[17:51] <oCean_> unitedpotsmokers: Are the correct nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[17:51] <eax> Hi :) By accident I installed the package "ipppd" that I now want to be removed, however upon removing it using "sudo apt-get remove ipppd" I get this error: http://pastebin.com/m49f0808b - I run Jaunty - What can I do? :)
[17:52] <kabumm> I don't know anything about makefiles: so it is a bug in Ubuntu, if i can compile sth. as root, but not with sudo make clean modules - or is that a bug in that particular makefile?
[17:52] <lstarnes> eax: ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:52] <user___> ginfomatikz: ok, still any problems? ;-)
[17:52] <linux_stu> how can i change the original user's password in ubuntu?
[17:52] <eax> lstarnes: Okay thanks :)
[17:52] <ginfomatikz> Did you see it?
[17:52] <Cpudan80> linux_stu: login as said user and do passwd in the terminal
[17:52] <ginfomatikz> So that should start the prog at new?
[17:52] <sky_> hi how i can edit grub table ?
[17:52] <sky_> there was some GUI app
[17:53] <rorozarzar> how do i install ubuntu?
[17:53] <lstarnes> eax: until jaunty is officially released, #ubuntu+1 will be its official channel
[17:53] <kristian2> user___ : yes, its annoying, manage to solve it?
[17:53] <Cpudan80> rorozarzar: boot off the CD - run the installer
[17:53] <linux_stu> Cpudan80, that's that i tried.  however, i still have to type in the original password when a program wants to access the password keyring
[17:53] <sky_> rorozarzar: maybe wubi
[17:53] <kristian2> HammerHead66 : yes, i want the data to be checked.
[17:53] <user___> kristian2: no, i checked the new cd manually, twas okay
[17:53] <Cpudan80> linux_stu: you want to change the default keyring passwd ?
[17:53] <linux_stu> Cpudan80, yes
[17:53] <oCean_> !install > rorozarzar
[17:53] <Jeruvy> linux_stu: are you talking about the sudo password or the user's password?
[17:54] <unitedpotsmokers> oCean_: hmm.. im not sure bro, im new... but i try to refresh network list and  add it back, restart a laptop many times, the problem didnt solve... im sure i put a correct password, and my modem accept the connection but i cant surf..
[17:54] <kristian2> user___ : meh! i dont want to check it manually. :-P
[17:54] <linux_stu> Jeruvy, i didn't know there was a difference
[17:54] <rorozarzar> thanks guise
[17:54] <sky_> how i can check which software i have installed ?
[17:54] <Jeruvy> linux_stu: by default only the first user is setup with sudo
[17:54] <user___> ginfomatikz: now you dont have any netbeans. to start from scratch you need to reinstall it: sudo aptitude install netbeans
[17:54] <linux_stu> Jeruvy, ok.  how can i just change all of the first user's passwords to a new one?
[17:55] <Jeruvy> linux_stu: I'd check your permissions
[17:55] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian2: there is a box u need to check, mark, check-off to make it do that fiction in preferences. Make sure you have done so. after it burns it will kick it out but just put it back in and it will check it
[17:55] <Cpudan80> linux_stu: applications --> accessories --> passwords and encryption keys ;; Edit --> preferences --> [click login line] --> change unlock passwd
[17:55] <Choobie> If I have my OS on /dev/hdc1, should menu.lst show root (hdc,1)?
[17:55] <sky_> please how i can check which software i have installed ?
[17:55] <linux_stu> ok thanks Cpudan80.  i will try that
[17:55] <oCean_> unitedpotsmokers: You have to check if the settings in /etc/resolv.conf are correct.
[17:55] <lstarnes> Choobie: try (hd1,1)
[17:55] <unitedpotsmokers> oCean_: but my problem solve when i download intrepid ibex installer, and make a fresh install, everything ok..
[17:55] <Cpudan80> linux_stu: if you make it match your linux password, it wont prompt you
[17:56] <user___> sky_: with the package manager synaptic
[17:56] <ginfomatikz> One more question i removed the top panel by accident can you get it back like it was at install?
[17:56] <user___> ginfomatikz: no clue, sorry
[17:56] <Choobie> lstarnes: but it could be hd2 just as easily since I have two hard drives?
[17:56] <sky_> user___: and via command line ?
[17:56] <unitedpotsmokers> oCean_: how to check it?
[17:56] <HammerHead66> who had the question about the password?
[17:56] <Cpudan80> ginfomatikz: the top panel just has the application menu by default
[17:56] <linux_stu> Cpudan80, would i have to type it in if i set gdm to auto-login to the first user?
[17:56] <zelda> Choobie: t9 huh?
[17:56] <linux_stu> Cpudan80, (even if the passwords were the same)
[17:56] <Choobie> zelda: t9?
[17:56] <Cpudan80> ginfomatikz: add "menu bar" to it
[17:57] <zelda> choobie: nevermind
[17:57] <Choobie> lstarnes, zelda: right now menu.lst shows hd0,0 but it fails to boot
[17:57] <Cpudan80> linux_stu: ehhh no - if the passwords match it wont prompt you
[17:57] <aria_> cc a tt
[17:57] <ginfomatikz> so when u do apt-get remove / purge you still leave things behind you have to do apptitude purge?
[17:57] <Cpudan80> at least that is my understanding - I could be wrong
[17:57] <lstarnes> Choobie: if hd0,0 doesn't work, try hd1,0
[17:57] <Choobie> lstarnes: ok, will do
[17:57] <Cpudan80> ginfomatikz: no ....
[17:57] <Choobie> lstarnes: and should I change this is grub.conf as well?
[17:58] <Choobie> lstarnes: and what about devices.map?
[17:58] <kristian2> HammerHead66 : not quite sure what you meant by that? in braaero or k3b?
[17:58] <millertime_018> can anyone help me install e17?
[17:58] <obeam> anyone here?
[17:58] <millertime_018> i've been running the easy_e17.sh but i keep getting errors while it's runnning
[17:58] <millertime_018> please!
[17:58] <lstarnes> Choobie: I think so in grub.conf, but I'm not sure about devices.map
[17:58] <Choobie> lstarnes: or would a complete reinstall of grub just fix this?
[17:59] <linux_stu> thanks Cpudan80 and Jeruvy
[17:59] <lstarnes> Choobie: reinstalling grub likely will not be necessary
[17:59] <sky_> how i can edit grub ?
[17:59] <chi_> hi folks, building KERNEL with "--config TARGET" prompts me for explicitly giving answer to all kernel options! ??? ??  but i gave the process the config? why doesn't it look there?
[17:59] <Choobie> lstarnes: Alright, I will give it a shot
[17:59] <unitedpotsmokers> oCean_: ok i will refer it with ebook guide.. dont worry..
[17:59] <sky_> on ubuntu was some tool where i can configure splash screen, choosing between os's etc
[17:59] <user___> sky_: man dpkg - i am sure its the right tool but dont know how to do it
[17:59] <chris_> Salut les femmes
[17:59] <user___> sky_: dpkg is for your software installation check question
[18:00] <user___> !grub > sky_
[18:00] <chris_> ya pas d'femmes dispo ?
[18:00] <ginfomatikz> Cpudan80: then how come when i remove progs that way and reinstall they are still the same (menu bars panels plugins ect)
[18:00] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian2: in the process of making the burn for software somewhere they have a place you have to mark to make it check the burned cd at the end try a diffrent program if you can't find it see if you can find it on another just so you can see what I mean
[18:00] <sky_> user___: no theres not answer
[18:00] <Cpudan80> ginfomatikz: the syntax is sudo apt get remove --purge [proggy]
[18:01] <user___> sky_: where is no answer to which question?
[18:01] <Cpudan80> ginfomatikz: you have / in your previous line
[18:01] <sky_> user___: grub :)
[18:01] <user___> !grub | sky_
[18:01] <Cpudan80> ginfomatikz: you shouldnt have to remove the menu items (unless you manually added them)
[18:01] <lstarnes> sky_: try looking in /boot/grub
[18:01] <ginfomatikz> i have been doing sudo apt-get purge :prog: then doing sudo apt-get remove :prog:
[18:01] <chi_> ginfomatikz => hidden files in /home/user  save the configuration of the programms
[18:01] <chi_> try purge  with remove
[18:02] <tj83_> lstarnes, jrgp ok,  since this is a script... they symlink does not seem to run as ./ as the script works.  so my symlink looks like this lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  20 2009-03-21 21:41 botstart -> /home/tj/botstart.sh as the rest of the links in /etc/rc2.d/
[18:02] <ginfomatikz> chi_: how do you reconfigure prog to fresh state
[18:02] <chi_> rm hidden files in home
[18:03] <ginfomatikz> that is the only thing i dont like about ubuntu everything is hidden
[18:03] <Flannel> ginfomatikz: You need to purge the packages (not remove) to remove the menu items
[18:03] <Haymaker> hey is apt-file supposed to be able to update right after you get it?  i think it's pointing to the wrong files
[18:03] <Dreamglider> can i use EXT3 fs for a bootable flash drive ?
[18:03] <chi_> ginformatikz : i use sudo aptitude purge APP
[18:04] <ginfomatikz> chi: you have to put apt-get in the line
[18:04] <chi_> flannel, he ginfo tried to purge (see above)
[18:04] <Flannel> ginfomatikz: Ah.
[18:04] <Flannel> ginfomatikz: Once you purge, you don't have to remove.  Purge does remove.
[18:05] <unop> Haymaker, might be worthwhile running   apt-file update  atleast once before you use it.
[18:05] <Flannel> ginfomatikz: Which program are we talking about anyway?  You may not be removing the right package
[18:05] <Haymaker> i did, and it fails
[18:05] <tq|Memphis> http://rafb.net/p/Tbvdvy31.html the code and the output : http://rafb.net/p/Li22x757.html
[18:05] <ginfomatikz> netbeanz
[18:05] <chi_> ginformatikz: no i use aptitude instead of apt-get
[18:05] <Haymaker> thats what im asking, it tries to get files online that dont exist
[18:05] <tq|Memphis> pls someone tell the that Process Scheduling
[18:05] <Flannel> tq|Memphis: Try #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-programming
[18:06] <chi_> hi folks, building KERNEL with "--config TARGET" prompts me for explicitly giving answer to all kernel options! ??? ??  but i gave the process the config? why doesn't it look there?
[18:06] <kristian2> HammerHead66 : yes, i have selected the check box. the problem is that k3b and brasero ejects my laptop disc tray which can not be mounted software wise again. :-/ has to be done manually and then it cant continue checking.
[18:06] <Flannel> ginfomatikz: ginfomatikz and `sudo apt-get remove --purge netbeans` still leaves a menu item?
[18:07] <Chaoman60> is jaunty any good?
[18:07] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian2: you mean after it burns the disk it kicks it out and when you put it back in it can't check it?
[18:08] <Chaoman60> is jaunty any good? rsvp
[18:09] <user___> Chaoman60: please in #jaunty+1
[18:09] <Chaoman60> oh
[18:09] <user___> Chaoman60: please in #ubuntu+1
[18:09] <Dreamglider> Chaoman60, it's alpha so it might be unstable
[18:09] <Dragnoer> enter the noob,  i have a few stupid questions, i have rtfm but it is of no avail
[18:10] <Chaoman60> just say it, Dragnoer
[18:10] <Dragnoer> tring to install flash player on 64 bit
[18:10] <Chaoman60> use 32 bit browser
[18:11] <Frijolie> what do you need to remote into another computer not on your local network?
[18:11] <Frijolie> VNC right?
[18:11] <DIFH-iceroot> Frijolie: ssh
[18:11] <m0RrE> ssh
[18:11] <A-KO> Anyone here know a bit about SSL keys/certs? For many applications that I have use SSL, I'd like to use the same private key file (to make this so much easier to manage) but I run into the issue that I would have to give read privileges to "other" in order to get all the applications I want to be able to read it. Does anyone have a more elegant solution to this? Should I place these users in the same group? Should I just use different private keys?
[18:11] <Chaoman60> flash and java not support 64 bit browser.
[18:11] <lstarnes> Frijolie: it depends on what the other computer is runnig
[18:11] <Jeruvy> Frijolie: thats one method
[18:11] <Dragnoer> can i use gnash on 64bit
[18:11] <Stanlin> HELP!! why nm-applet is not showing the wifi card?
[18:11] <jrib> Dragnoer: yes
[18:11] <Frijolie> remote computer is running Intrepid as well
[18:11] <Frijolie> DIFH-iceroot, doesn't that require a user account on the other end
[18:11] <DIFH-iceroot> Frijolie: yes
[18:12] <kristian2> HammerHead66 : yes, the tray is ejected/kicked out after burning and it can't call it back in, because im on a laptop (no motorized tray), so i have to push it manually in, but then brasero will not continue/start verifiying the disc. it kicks it out because it wants to get ride of cache, so it is a good thing, for stasionay computers but not for laptops. :-/
[18:12] <lstarnes> Frijolie: I mean which servers it is running (vnc, sshd, etc.)
[18:12] <Frijolie> DIFH-iceroot, if you don't have a user account on the other end? can you connect via guest account?
[18:12] <DIFH-iceroot> FrozenFire: of course you have a user-account on the other machine
[18:12] <mbrigdan> Is there a recommended FTP client for ubuntu?
[18:12] <Dragnoer> it say i can in the wiki but when i try to install i get curl_adapter.cpp:61: warning: unused parameter ‘postdata’
[18:12] <Dragnoer> curl_adapter.cpp:61: warning: unused parameter ‘headers’
[18:12] <Dragnoer> curl_adapter.cpp:61: warning: unused parameter ‘cachefile’
[18:12] <Dragnoer> make[1]: *** [libgnashbase_la-curl_adapter.lo] Error 1
[18:12] <Dragnoer> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/keenan/Desktop/gnash-0.8.5/libbase'
[18:12] <FloodBot1> Dragnoer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <Frijolie> lstarnes, you have to have server installed? which is recommended?
[18:12] <Dragnoer> make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
[18:12] <DIFH-iceroot> mbrigdan: filezilla, also support sftp
[18:12] <Frijolie> lstarnes, that doesn't require a user account on the other end
[18:12] <lstarnes> Chaoman60: I have flash working in 64-bit firefox, I'm not sure about flash though
[18:13] <chi_> hi folks, building KERNEL with "--config TARGET" prompts me for explicitly giving answer to all kernel options! ??? ??  but i gave the process the config? why doesn't it look there?
[18:13] <lstarnes> Frijolie: a user account on the other end is usually requiresd
[18:13] <downhill_> so Win7B1 knocked out the partition tables on 2 of my 500GB disks. I know what I entered into the Ubuntu installer for partition sizes, but I don't have the exact sector sizes. what libs does the installer use to create the partitions? libparted?
[18:13] <lstarnes> *required
[18:13] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian2: man that sucks. I would try to contact the software company and try to get them to fix that
[18:13] <Frijolie> Jeruvy, what's the easiest to use?
[18:13] <lstarnes> Chaoman60: er, not sure about java
[18:13] <Jeruvy> Frijolie: sneakerwear :)
[18:14] <Frijolie> lstarnes, hmm...what's this 'vinagre' in the Pref's menu?
[18:14] <kristian2> HammerHead66 : yes, it is a bug, and it has been reported but they are not doing anything, old bug. k3b/brasero are not made for laptop users with non motorized trays. :-P
[18:14] <lstarnes> Frijolie: I'm not sure
[18:14] <zelda> NIke's
[18:14] <lstarnes> Chaoman60: actually, I do have (mostly) working java in 64-bit
[18:15] <Frijolie> yeah...
[18:15] <tj83_> lstarnes, the script is located in /home/username/script.sh so from /etc/rc2.d/ i make link as sudo ln -s /home/username/script.sh and it creates link just as others in /etc/rc2.d/, now... from /home/username/ i can issue the command "script.sh" and i get bad command, if i issue the command "./script.sh" then the script executes fine... so... when it comes up to the runlevel it does not start on boot cause its only calling that link as "script.sh" not "./sc
[18:15] <tj83_> ript.sh" how to solve this?
[18:15] <downhill_> anyone? :p
[18:15] <Jeruvy> Frijolie: really it depends more on what you are using and what you need to accomplish.  Vnc is well supported in linux but isn't very good for windows.  ssh works well but requires privileges.  etc. etc.
[18:15] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian2: If I knew anything about programing I would try to help. But as it is right now I have no clue how to do any of that stuff
[18:15] <Chaoman60> ok lets say im using ssh or vnc or sumthin like that and i want to make one machine a thin client to another. how do i make a computer a thin client
[18:15] <Dragnoer> trying to install gnash on 64 bit 8.10 what does this mean
[18:15] <Frijolie> Jeruvy, VNC is fine...we've got both ends port forwarded
[18:15] <Haymaker> is apt-file updating correctly for anyone else?
[18:15] <lstarnes> tj83_: edit the script to include the entire path of the script
[18:16] <Stanlin> !atheros
[18:16] <Frijolie> Jeruvy, just need the command to attempt connection
[18:16] <lstarnes> tj83_: e.g. /home/usernane/script.sh instead of script.sh or ./script.sh
[18:17] <tj83_> but lstarnes , my script is not the problem.. its the init that is not calling a script at all.
[18:17] <lstarnes> tj83_: what was the symlink placed in /etc/rc2.d?
[18:17] <usser> tj83_, just put it in rc.local
[18:17] <kristian2> HammerHead66 : i dont either. :-P
[18:18] <tj83_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  17 2009-03-22 14:09 botstart -> /home/tj/botstart
[18:18] <Haymaker> question:  are people in here that help people actual canonical employees or are they donating their own time?
[18:18] <Cpudan80> tj83_: go into the init directory and ./link
[18:18] <Cpudan80> does it work?
[18:18] <crf> hi, I am trying to share a folder on my computer using Samba. In the samba log it is printed
[18:18] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian2: ask around see if anyone knows how to program and see if you can get them to do it.
[18:18] <lstarnes> tj83_: read the README files in /etc/rc2.d/ and the others
[18:18] <crf> [2009/03/20 19:49:59,  0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(1366)
[18:18] <crf>   dellie (192.168.0.103) couldn't find service deskto
[18:18] <crf> [2009/03/20 19:49:59,  0] param/loadparm.c:process_usershare_file(8282)
[18:18] <crf>   process_usershare_file: stat of /var/lib/samba/usershares/deskto failed. No such file or directory
[18:18] <FloodBot1> crf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <downhill_> Cpudan80: people in their spare time
[18:19] <Cpudan80> huh?
[18:19] <tj83_> Cpudan80, yes. if i cd to /etc/rc2.d/ and issue ./link it executes
[18:19] <lstarnes> Haymaker: this is almost entirely if not completely community run
[18:19] <downhill_> er people who help in their spare time
[18:19] <downhill_> oh
[18:19] <Haymaker> cool
[18:19] <downhill_> Haymaker: ^ people who help in their spare time
[18:19] <downhill_> Cpudan80: sorry :p wrong person
[18:19] <lstarnes> tj83_: the link needs to start with S<number><number><name>
[18:19] <crf> is there a Samba help channel?
[18:19] <Haymaker> thats awesome
[18:19] <Haymaker> that people are willing to sit in here and answer questions like that
[18:19] <tj83_> lstarnes, ooooooo ok so i can just rename it then....?
[18:19] <Dragnoer> I am unable to remove a mozilla plugin b/c access is denied. i tried to use sudo in the terminal but i do not know the command to delete a file
[18:19] <Haymaker> wish i knew enough to help
[18:20] <lstarnes> tj83_: e.g S99botstart
[18:20] <Jeruvy> Frijolie: this has lots of information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[18:20] <downhill_> Haymaker: get out while you still can
[18:20] <lstarnes> downhill_: rm
[18:20] <Cpudan80> tj83_: yeah - it needs to be S[seqNum][name]
[18:20] <Haymaker> LOL
[18:20] <HammerHead66> ﻿crf: type command  "/list"  without the "" ok
[18:20] <lstarnes> downhill_: ignore that
[18:20] <Chewtoy> I can't cange owner of a folder. :/ sudo chown chewtoy /media/Thingys/Things/ -R <-- That is the right commandline is it not?
[18:20] <lstarnes> Dragnoer: rm
[18:20] <Cpudan80> tj83_: or K[seqNum][Name]
[18:20] <Dragnoer> which
[18:20] <lstarnes> Chewtoy: put the -R before the user and path
[18:20] <Dragnoer> where
[18:20] <Cpudan80> tj83_: That determines which arg gets passed to your script on execution (either start or stop)
[18:20] <Chaoman60> is there an openarena channel?
[18:20] <tj83_> Cpudan80, lstarnes TY... rebooting now for test
[18:20] <lstarnes> Dragnoer: the command for removing a file is rm
[18:21] <Dragnoer> thx
[18:21] <tj83_> Cpudan80, start is S and stop is K?
[18:21] <lstarnes> tj83_: check the readme files in the rc dirs.  They tell you exactly how the naming/numbering scheme works
[18:21] <Chewtoy> lstarnes: Didn't do any difference. :/
[18:21] <Cpudan80> tj83_: S is for start, K is for stop
[18:21] <lstarnes> tj83_: S = start, lower numbers start first
[18:21] <Chewtoy> lstarnes: root is stille marked as owner.
[18:21] <Cpudan80> tj83_: you dont have to reboot, just do sudo telinit 1
[18:21] <kristian2> HammerHead66 : i have found a workaround, will check it out now.
[18:21] <Haymaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135523/   can anyone tell what the problem is just by looking at this?  i figured apt-file should be able to update out of the box, but its pointing to 404 files
[18:21] <Cpudan80> tj83_: then sudo telinit 5
[18:21] <usser> tj83_, why do you need to run it from init.d?
[18:21] <lstarnes> tj83_: K = kill/stop, lower numbers are stopped last
[18:22] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian2; good!:-D
[18:22] <tj83_> usser, for my general understanding
[18:22] <lstarnes> tj83_: for something like this, you could use an @reboot entry in your personal crontab
[18:22] <Cpudan80> tj83_: lower #s are stopped last?
[18:22] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian2: where did u find it?
[18:22] <usser> tj83_, oh nvm then
[18:22] <lstarnes> Chewtoy: try sudo chown -R chewtoy.chewtoy /media/Thingys/Things/
[18:22] <downhill_> baaaah
[18:22] <Cpudan80> oh right right lower #s go last in stop
[18:22] <Cpudan80> dur
[18:22] <usser> tj83_, theres a script to help you manage symlinks in /etc/init.d, update-rc.d
[18:23] <Chewtoy> lstarnes: Nope. Didn't work.
[18:23] <jdoofleski> i want to migrate this server i've got from 2003 server to ubuntu. is the current ntfs-3g stable enough to use with my existing ntfs raid array? i cannot change the filesystem at this time, but I do need access to it
[18:23] <tj83_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  17 2009-03-22 14:09 S99botstart -> /home/tj/botstart Cpudan80 lstarnes  i still dont think its calling for it as a script rather an executable program
[18:23] <lstarnes> tj83_: what kind of script is it?
[18:24] <Cpudan80> tj83_: It doesnt execute the script with any sort of path or anything
[18:24] <usser> jdoofleski, no point in migrating to ubuntu if you're going to keep ntfs. ntfs-3g is generally stable but i wouldn't let it near a server of any kind
[18:24] <jdoofleski> it's just a home network server
[18:24] <lstarnes> tj83_: bash, perl, python, or something else?
[18:24] <tj83_> lstarnes, its just a shell script... script.sh executable as ./script.sh
[18:24] <Cpudan80> tj83_: you have to do #!/bin/bash at the top of your prog, and PATH=something for it to work right ...
[18:24] <crispier--> My wireless broke after updating my kernel.. I think thats why at least. Using a broadcom chip, not sure which, and network-manager. Well I can see my wireless network and scan etc, but when I try to connect dmesg sends me these two messages which I think needs to be solved and is the root of the problem: wlan0: no IPv6 routers present wlan0: disassociating by local choice (reason=3)
[18:24] <jdoofleski> i'm in the process of moving the array data to multiple drives, just can't do it yet
[18:24] <lstarnes> tj83_: does the first line contain "#!/bin/sh" ?
[18:24] <Cpudan80> tj83_: you need to chmod that script to 755
[18:24] <tj83_> lstarnes, it does
[18:25] <crispier--> ubuntu 8.10
[18:25] <crispier--> My wireless broke after updating my kernel.. I think thats why at least. Using a broadcom chip, not sure which, and network-manager. Well I can see my wireless network and scan etc, but when I try to connect dmesg sends me these two messages which I think needs to be solved and is the root of the problem:
[18:25] <crispier--> [19:21] <crispier--> lan0: no IPv6 routers present
[18:25] <crispier--> [19:21] <crispier--> wlan0: disassociating by local choice (reason=3)
[18:25] <FloodBot1> crispier--: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <tj83_> Cpudan80, in desperate efforts its 777 now
[18:25] <crispier--> doh, sorry for pasting hit the wring button hehe
[18:25] <tj83_> the script works fine
[18:25] <Stepan1> Can anyone lead me through setting up my linux printer with samba so it can be accessed with windows?  I looked at all the links but nothing is detailed enough.  The two computer are not connected to the same network/router.
[18:25] <ryant> can any1 help me install the game planeshift?
[18:25] <tj83_> however.... its init that is calling for "script.sh" not "./script.sh" that is stopping from working
[18:26] <kristian2> HammerHead66 : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/72609 - people with same problem, last post, some guy figured out how to make k3b not eject the tray after burning, but instead jump straight to verifiying. this is good, but could be bad, because of verifiying cache instead? anyways i want to try it out. already wasted 3 discs so far testing so... :-P only problem i cant find the advanced tab the guy is talking about, the k
[18:26] <ryant> can any1 help me install the game planeshift? please?
[18:26] <fiftycal> /join macports
[18:26] <fiftycal> oops
[18:26] <jdoofleski> usser: a more directed question would be how stable is it? i really just need to preserve the integrity of the data until I can fully migrate the array, i need little (if any) write ability
[18:26] <Cpudan80> tj83_: the scripts should really go in /etc/init.d
[18:27] <Jeruvy> ryant: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-490103.html
[18:27] <tj83_> Cpudan80, i will move it then... and see
[18:28] <ryant> thank u jeruvy
[18:28] <ryant> i have looked at that alreadyu though
[18:28] <ryant> and it didnt work
[18:28] <Jeruvy> ryant: can you pastebin where it broke for you?
[18:29] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian2: yeah I see the problem with now
[18:29] <HammerHead66> *it
[18:29] <ryant> Jeruvy: it told me that i didn't have the permissions to run the client
[18:29] <florin> hi all
[18:29] <jhalstead> my /tmp directory has recently started showing less than 1MB free space.  I have not made any configuration changes lately and don't know where to start to look for a reason for this?
[18:29] <Stepan1> I need help with SAMBA and CUPS.  Printer connected to linux, needs to be accessed by windows.  Not connected to the same network.
[18:30] <Jeruvy> ryant: try running it with 'gksudo' from a terminal
[18:30] <Guest88925> i tryed to connect on youtube.com and i got an error like this one
[18:30] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian2: might want to remember that when picking up your next laptop
[18:30] <Guest88925> 500 Internal Server Error
[18:30] <Guest88925> Sorry, something went wrong.
[18:30] <Guest88925> A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation.
[18:30] <Guest88925> Also, please include the following information in your error report:
[18:30] <FloodBot1> Guest88925: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:30] <ryant> what isthe full command?
[18:30] <Guest88925> it can be a secuirty roblem?
[18:30] <Guest88925> problem***
[18:31] <lstarnes> Guest88925: it is likely that youtube.com's administrators accidentally misconfigured the servers or they're under too much stress
[18:31] <Guest88925> ok :0
[18:31] <ryant> Jeruvy: what is the full command?
[18:31] <Guest88925> :)
[18:31] <ryant> Jeruvy: i think i am typing it wrong
[18:31] <Guest88925> never get this error
[18:32] <tj83_> Cpudan80, lstarnes http://www.pastebin.ca/1368251 paste of procedure just performed.
[18:32] <oCean_> !away > Dracie|AFK
[18:32] <lstarnes> ryant: if it doesn't run graphically, use sudo instead of gksudo
[18:32] <George2> is it possible to switch from gnome to kde?
[18:32] <lstarnes> ryant: there is a channel for planeshift on this network, called #planeshift
[18:32] <tj83_> George2, yes
[18:33] <tiagofalcao> George2: yes
[18:33] <ryant> thank u
[18:33] <George2> good
[18:33] <Flannel> George2: Yep.  Just install kubuntu-desktop and you can have them both installed.
[18:33] <George2> i don't have to have both gnome and kde together?
[18:33] <HammerHead66> EVERYONE: if you buy a laptop and you want to burn with it. And like ti verify the data has been burned onto the cd make sure you don't have a manual cd tray or it won't work
[18:33] <tiagofalcao> George2: have ubuntu meta packages for this
[18:33] <Flannel> George2: No, you can remove gnome afterwards (or at the same time)
[18:33] <George2> ok thanks, i'll try :)
[18:33] <Flannel> !purekde | George2
[18:33] <ryant> lstarnes: i cant find the channel how do i connect?
[18:33] <nitinm> HammerHead66: sure you can burn with it
[18:33] <lstarnes> ryant: /join #planeshift
[18:33] <Cpudan80> tj83_: looks fine
[18:33] <nitinm> .. just light it with gas
[18:33] <ryant> thank u
[18:33] <George2> Flannel: thanks, but i have a few apps settings set up as how i want them, will i lose them too?
[18:34] <tj83_> Cpudan80, TY for looking testing now
[18:34] <nitinm> wtf
[18:34] <George2> will installing kubuntu-desktop wipe all my files?
[18:34] <tiagofalcao> George2: what kind of apps?
[18:34] <tiagofalcao> George2: no
[18:34] <George2> firefox, scite
[18:34] <tiagofalcao> George2: you only install more apps
[18:35] <George2> i'm dualbooting and only have about 3.8gb free on this partition - small partition :(
[18:35] <GreenDelta> hey, i installed a mysql-server on my apache2 (with no pw, just root without pw) and now i downloaded phpmyadmin but he says permission denied with root and no pw. how can i see/change the pw of my mysql server?
[18:35] <tiagofalcao> George2: open synaptics, and try install
[18:35] <daftykins> "sudo mysql -u root" GreenDelta
[18:35] <George2> just apt-getting kubuntu-desktp
[18:35] <brous> I tried to make a bootable usb dongle with 8.10 but it does run on dell laptops, its fat16 format, it runs on hp, is this unique?
[18:35] <daftykins> then type "help" and find the command for password changing
[18:36] <daftykins> ah actually i guess you can't login to that without the pass XD
[18:36] <brous> I tried to make a bootable usb dongle with 8.10 but it does not* run on dell laptops, its fat16 format, it runs on hp, is this unique?
[18:36] <George2> i tried to install kde, but it didn't like that, had probs rebooting :(
[18:36] <George2> brous:  another reason not tto buy dell ;)
[18:36] <Shooree> what could be the issue if Ubuntu 8.10 won't show anything after the first menu, when being booted up from a LiveCD? the screen just goes blank and the computer sorta dies.
[18:36] <tj83_> Cpudan80, lmao this is too funny at startup it is trying to work! but this is what it says: "staring the bot" wich is an echo line from my sript! its starting! but then returns "Dude, don't even try to run this as root" lol what the heck is this?
[18:36] <HammerHead66> lol
[18:36] <GreenDelta> daftykins: hm strange, that works
[18:36] <tiagofalcao> firefox and scite save your preferences in your home
[18:36] <lstarnes> tj83_: the bot isn't supposed to run as root
[18:37] <GreenDelta> i got permission, but not in pma
[18:37] <brous> Shooree-> try the option of noapci
[18:37] <neurobuntu> anybody know of programs that you can use to backup your /home/$USER/.profile files and dirs?
[18:37] <lstarnes> tj83_: you could try using your personal crontab instead
[18:37] <tiagofalcao> George2: firefox and scite save your preferences in your home, nothing will be erased
[18:37] <e-jat> elo sjaplja
[18:37] <o0Chris0o> hi sjaplja
[18:37] <George2> i've had enough of gnome  looking like win 3.1 :/
[18:37] <tj83_> hmm..... lstarnes so... how do i now fix this to run off crontab?
[18:37] <George2> tiagofalcao: oh that's good news, thanks
[18:38] <lstarnes> tj83_: crontab -e
[18:38] <lstarnes> tj83_: also, man crontab
[18:38] <akahige1> my audio server on Intrepid has just totally locked up. I tried killing and restarting the pulseaudio daemon, but it's not coming back. anyone got any thoughts?
[18:38] <goofrider> ?
[18:38] <kristian_> HammerHead66: hey! i dropped. do you know where the advanced tab in k3b is?
[18:38] <lstarnes> tj83_: setting the time as @reboot will set cron to run your crontab whenever you reboot
[18:38] <lstarnes> tj83_: er, the bot
[18:38] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_: sorry no I never used that program before
[18:39] <kristian_> HammerHead66 : what cd/dvd burning software do you use?
[18:39] <George2> ok, i'm all downloaded, gonna try and logging nout - wish me luck!
[18:39] <tj83_> lstarnes, wow... thats too simple, i know how to manage cron jobs... just never knew could use @reboot... lol
[18:39] <tiagofalcao> George2: Good Luck!
[18:39] <tiagofalcao> i need to go, bye
[18:39] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_: hold on I'm installing it now
[18:40] <Frijolie> is a VNC connection secure between computers?
[18:40] <ryanCH> i installed "xcompmgr" and i added the extensions for compositing in xorg.conf, and i still can't get it to run, i'll i get is, "No composite extension" .. what am i doing wrong?
[18:40] <George2> uhm, my logout button has disappeared!
[18:40] <brous> I tried to make a bootable usb dongle with 8.10 but it does not run on dell laptops, its fat16 format, it runs on hp, is this unique?
[18:40] <mhall119> Frijolie: no
[18:40] <brous> Frijolie-> nope
[18:40] <Gnea> Frijolie: not unless you use it with ssh
[18:40] <Gnea> !vnc | Frijolie
[18:40] <kristian_> HammerHead66 : ok, i actually want to keep using brasero since its default in ubuntu, but since i cant find a similar by pass to brasero that i found in k3b, then ill just try k3b.
[18:40] <mhall119> Frijolie: if you want it secures, have the vnc server allow local connection only, then use SSH to create a tunnel between the two boxes
[18:41] <rashed2020_> Is there a way to revert ubuntu to a fresh installation other than reinstalling?
[18:41] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_: I found it
[18:41] <Flannel> rashed2020_: What are you trying to revert?
[18:41] <Gnea> brous: is there a documented process that you followed in order to get it installed?
[18:41] <kristian_> HammerHead66 : w00t! where? :-P
[18:41] <Kurogane> Any1 can help me how i can change kernel version 32bits to 64bits
[18:41] <rashed2020_> Just everything, as if I reinstalled it.
[18:42] <Flannel> Kurogane: You need to reinstall
[18:42] <rashed2020_> Networking doesn't wanna work no matter what I try
[18:42] <lstarnes> Kurogane: install the amd64 version of ubuntu
[18:42] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_: click settings go to bottom one and click it
[18:42] <brous> Gnea  this  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-810-install-using-the-built-in-usb-installer/
[18:42] <mhall119> rashed2020_: why not just reinstall it?
[18:42] <Gnea> Kurogane: you'll have to reinstall the amd64 version from the ground-up
[18:42] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_: it's on bottom left side
[18:42] <Frijolie> mhall119, but I don't want to have to have a user account on the remote computer
[18:42] <rashed2020_> Meh, looks like that's what I'll do.
[18:43] <kristian_> HammerHead66: wow! :-P i couldn't find it. :-P thanks, will try to burn a data dvd with that setting on now.
[18:43] <mhall119> Frijolie: you'll need one anyway for an X11 desktop, won't you?
[18:43] <Frijolie> what does the "Require encryption" option mean in System > Prefs > Remote Desktop > Advanced Tab mean?
[18:43] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_:;-) glad I could help
[18:43] <mhall119> vncserver has to run as a user
[18:43] <Stepan1> I need help with SAMBA and CUPS.  Printer connected to linux, needs to be accessed by windows.  Not connected to the same network.
[18:43] <kristian_> HammerHead66: i must be blind. :-P will tell you if it works...
[18:44] <GreenDelta> is anybody here knowing well about phpmyadmin?
[18:44] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_:ok
[18:44] <brous> Frijolie-> not having remote account, will not allow you to do much remotely
[18:44] <Frijolie> mhall119, no I just had a buddy remote into my computer without a guest account
[18:44] <Frijolie> mhall119, he had full control
[18:44] <Gnea> brous: ok, well fat16 is correct, not sure why the dell isn't accepting it.. what's the make/model of the dell?
[18:44] <jhalstead> my /tmp directory is set at 1.0M it used to be larger.  any idea what caused the decrease and how to increase it again?
[18:44] <mhall119> Frijolie: what user account is VNC server running as?
[18:44] <mhall119> root?
[18:45] <Frijolie> mhall119, I'm not sure
[18:45] <Kurogane> when you say reinstall is format and install again? there is no possibility without having to format?
[18:45] <brous> Gnea-> G630
[18:45] <Frijolie> mhall119, I didn't have him try to install uninstall software
[18:45] <mhall119> Frijolie: VNC server runs an X11 desktop as a user, so you have a user account already in use, even if it's root
[18:45] <mhall119> you'll just need to ssh as that user
[18:46] <tj83_> Cpudan80, lstarnes , heh i was totally barking up the wrong tree with init. lol crontab works perfect
[18:46] <Frijolie> mhall119, yeah I was logged into my user account and we had shared control of the desktop
[18:46] <tj83_> Cpudan80, lstarnes , thanks guys
[18:46] <brous> Frijolie-> he knew your account password
[18:46] <Cpudan80> np
[18:46] <Frijolie> brous, no
[18:46] <brous> Frijolie-> you'd think he'd tell you?
[18:46] <Frijolie> brous, was never prompted for username/password
[18:46] <mhall119> okay, then have him use your account when he creates the ssh tunnel
[18:47] <caimlas> I've got a workstation with vino installed on the other side of the country that I provide support for. it's running ubuntu 8.10, and the vnc server is the vino-server desktop sharing. however, I am unable to connect today. I can ssh in. however, I do not know how I would go about checking which display vino is running on; the X server is on :0. I have a firewall rule (which appears OK and in place, and was working before) forwarding me t
[18:47] <caimlas> o that port. but I don't know if vino changed something on me. can anyone give me some pointers on how to determine and/or change the vino settings from CLI?
[18:47] <Frijolie> brous, yes we're brothers
[18:47] <brous> Frijolie-> i dont trust my brother either..
[18:47] <meoblast001> hi
[18:47] <Frijolie> brous, hehe..I trust him
[18:47] <mhall119> wait, brous VNC server uses a different password than the user's password
[18:47] <Frijolie> mhall119, brous, we're using 'vinagre' to connect
[18:47] <meoblast001> what is the package name of GD... the thing you use on forums to make captchas.... i did aptitude search gd but i don't know which one is it
[18:48] <crazy_people> i changed something in /etc/fstab, how can I make the changes active without restarting the whole system?
[18:48] <Frijolie> mhall119, brous, and have port forwarded all 5900 traffic to our internal IPs
[18:48] <mhall119> Frijolie is using vino as the server, which has it's own passsword
[18:48] <Flannel> meoblast001: libgd2
[18:48] <meoblast001> Flannel: ok thanks
[18:48] <Flannel> meoblast001: you obviously want some language bindings too
[18:48] <meoblast001> Flannel: php i'd suppose
[18:49] <mhall119> I'm not sure the ssh tunnel trick will work with vino
[18:49] <elfranger> Hi all, can anyone help me getting write permissions on a SD card under ubuntu?
[18:49] <Flannel> meoblast001: php5-gd
[18:49] <mhall119> ah, yes, it'll work
[18:49] <newmember> Can I use mount to connect to a folder on another server?
[18:49] <meoblast001> Flannel: thanks... i thought i had captcha on and then i found a bunch of spammers on my forums
[18:49] <Frijolie> what's the "server" package for vnc?
[18:49] <elfranger> I have just set up ubuntu on a HP Compaq nc4200 with a built in SD card reader... the card I put in automounts as read
[18:50] <HammerHead66> ﻿elfranger: right click go to prefs' click it go to permission
[18:50] <elfranger> the card mounts as read only
[18:50] <AETE_KRAOUD> hi
[18:50] <mhall119> Frijolie: you're using vino
[18:50] <meoblast001> Flannel: i still don't see the captcha
[18:50] <AETE_KRAOUD> what is the role of  the  hyphen in the end of a shell script ???
[18:50] <mbrigdan> anyone where that could tell me how to get crafty to compile on x86_64?
[18:50] <AETE_KRAOUD> hyphen i mean a single "-"
[18:50] <mhall119> AETE_KRAOUD: the end of a script, or the end of a command?
[18:50] <brous> newmember-> like this sshfs username@ipaddress:/remotepath ~/remoteserv
[18:50] <elfranger> hammerhead: yes, owner has create and delete files
[18:51] <AETE_KRAOUD> mhall119,  YES :-) ??
[18:51] <merkin> hi, ho do i go about installing a package from jaunty on my intrepid system? i'm on the website with the package i want i just don't know what to download
[18:51] <Gnea> brous: that a desktop?
[18:51] <lstarnes> AETE_KRAOUD: which?
[18:51] <Flannel> !backport | merkin
[18:51] <Flannel> erm
[18:51] <mhall119> AETE_KRAOUD: many command line tools take a hyphen for a file argument to mean STDIN
[18:51] <Flannel> !prevu | merkin
[18:51] <brous> Gnea-> i created the bootable usb dongle on a desktop,
[18:51] <AETE_KRAOUD> lstarnes,  hmm any command
[18:51] <HammerHead66> ﻿elfranger: I'm unsure then
[18:51] <lstarnes> AETE_KRAOUD: it depends on which command
[18:51] <merkin> Flannel, thanks!
[18:51] <elfranger> Hammerhead: the card was formatted under windows and I used "safely emove hardware"
[18:51] <AETE_KRAOUD> lstarnes, : i see
[18:52] <elfranger> under windows I can write to the card fine
[18:52] <Gnea> brous: is the G630 a desktop model?
[18:52] <brous> Gnea-> oh, it is a laptop
[18:52] <slimjim> hey can anyone tell me how to edit my boot loader, i had a older version of dream and then i installed ubuntu and had to redo dream and it shows both in the boot loader so i just ahve to take out the old one
[18:52] <Gnea> brous: ok, that an inspiron?
[18:52] <ranim> .
[18:52] <RiotingPacifist3> i have a list of installed pacakges generated fro m dpkg --get-selections how do i reinstall those packages
[18:52] <AETE_KRAOUD> mhall119, :  you mean that the tools expect i will give them some options from command line after the dash ??
[18:52] <newmember> brous: hmmm no sshfs, what package installls that
[18:52] <HammerHead66> ﻿elfranger: I'm sorry I couldn't help you
[18:52] <brous> Gnea am not sure, if its inspiron, let me look for any labels outside or stickers
[18:53] <neurobuntu> newmember, sshfs
[18:53] <mhall119> slimjim: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:53] <slimjim> ok thank you
[18:53] <George2> omg, all the things i hated about kubuntu are here!
[18:53] <George2> the link to kubuntu site in the nav menu for a start :(
[18:53] <elfranger> Hammerhead: no worries :-)
[18:53] <mhall119> AETE_KRAOUD: no, it means they're going to read from standard input rather than a file
[18:53] <brous> Gnea-> sorry, i didnt realize these are important info, its a Lattitude G630
[18:54] <mhall119> AETE_KRAOUD: it's so you can pipe data from one command to other that is expecting a file name
[18:54] <lstarnes> AETE_KRAOUD: not all command use a - for what mhall119 describe though, but many do
[18:54] <lstarnes> *described
[18:54] <meoblast001> Flannel: the captchas aren't working
[18:54] <ranim> hi,i have a problem with vlc i just change the skin after that vlc can't run again
[18:54] <elfranger> is there any way I can force ubuntu to ease up on the mount security options? It will mount as ro if it detects any anomalies in the file system on the card...
[18:54] <AETE_KRAOUD> mhall119, :  so you fool a command that expects a  file
[18:54] <Gnea> brous: ATG, to be specific.  yeah, it's dell, they get a bit carried away with product branding :)
[18:55] <mhall119> ranim: what skin?
[18:55] <slimjim> mhall i have to menu.lst in the grub folder
[18:55] <TornilloTorcido> Hola?
[18:55] <AETE_KRAOUD> mhall119, : and you give it the outpout of a command instead e?
[18:55] <TornilloTorcido> Como estan?
[18:55] <George2> Flannel: do i have to recompile everything to get hte programs to use the kde lovliness?
[18:55] <mhall119> AETE_KRAOUD: not really fooling it, the command checks to see if the argument is a hyphen, and does something different if it is
[18:55] <HammerHead66> ﻿elfranger: yes, give me a min to find it again ok
[18:55] <Flannel> meoblast001: Then you've got something else going on.  Have you restarted apache for good measure since installing php5-gd?  You might have more luck in #php
[18:55] <Noah0504> I'm setting up a server for my home, and I'm trying to set up Samba.  Is sharing more than one directory as easy as creating new [shares] in the smb.conf?
[18:55] <mhall119> AETE_KRAOUD: ye
[18:55] <Flannel> George2: No, that would be silly.
[18:55] <TornilloTorcido> no hay nadie que hable espaniol aca?
[18:55] <George2> i just installed xampp for a lampp setup. quick and painless
[18:55] <SilverRook> can someone help me with problems with running things on boot using rc.local ?
[18:55] <brous> Gnea-> so is there something unique about dell not reading a usb dongle formatted fat16 to boot?
[18:56] <SilverRook> pm me pls
[18:56] <elfranger> Hammerhead: Ok, thanks :-)
[18:56] <Flannel> !ar | TornilloTorcido
[18:56] <meoblast001> Flannel: i'll restart i suppose
[18:56] <AETE_KRAOUD> mhall119,  i got it THANKS a lot i will apreciate an example but anyway thanks man :-)
[18:56] <TornilloTorcido> ah, tank you! XDDD
[18:56] <mbrigdan> Anyone here that could tell me how to get crafty to compile on x86_64?
[18:56] <Flannel> George2: LAMP is quick and painless. XAMPP, not so much.  Especially when it comes to updates.
[18:57] <meoblast001> Flannel: thanks it works now
[18:57] <George2> Flannel: firefox doesn't look good in kde, the tabs are vertically squished
[18:57] <George2> Flannel: true
[18:57] <HammerHead66> ﻿elfranger: go /System/Admin/Usersettings
[18:57] <Gnea> brous: does the bios provide you the option to boot from a usb device?
[18:57] <AETE_KRAOUD> lstarnes,  : i have noticed that ;)  anyway thanks :-)
[18:58] <elfranger> Hammerhead: users and groups?
[18:58] <elfranger> Hammerhead: Yes, there now
[18:58] <SilverRook> anyone free to assist me with RC.LOCAL problems ?
[18:58] <HammerHead66> ﻿elfranger: click on root  hit the manage groups botton
[18:58] <brous> Gnea-> yeah, i choosed it a 1st priority, but at boot i get the error ..i forgot the correct verbage now, but cannot recognize file system i think
[18:58] <elfranger> Hammerhead: yes, all grayed out...
[18:58] <HammerHead66> ﻿elfranger: sorry you have to unlock it first
[18:59] <elfranger> Hammerhead: ok, two secs
[18:59] <elfranger> Hammerhead: ok, unlocked now
[18:59] <elfranger> Hammerhead: in groups
[18:59] <HammerHead66> yes you should be able to find it and change it there
[19:00] <elfranger> Hammerhead: Find what?
[19:00] <HammerHead66> the permission in properties
[19:00] <jimisrvrox> hey guys im looking at this 25 page thread and is there a way to read it all in one page on the forums?
[19:00] <brous> Gnea the error was error loading operating system
[19:00] <Flannel> jimisrvrox: Try #ubuntuforums
[19:00] <elfranger> Hammerhead: yes, but for what group?
[19:00] <HammerHead66> root
[19:00] <HammerHead66> clicxk it
[19:01] <HammerHead66> hit properties
[19:01] <HammerHead66> and change it to what you need it
[19:01] <TitoN> hi i got a question. i just bought a sony vaio and i would like to put ubuntu on it. but i'm affraid that i might ruin the hardware on it. I had another laptop with ubuntu and i think the grafiksdrivers did something funky with it cuz the card doesnt work properly
[19:01] <brous> jimisrvrox-> depends on how the web page is written, some only allow page link size to display, ie in chunks
[19:01] <elfranger> Hammerhead: yes, then I can see group name, id and members
[19:01] <sixofour> Every time i start Kubuntu, KDe fails toload and it goes to gnome....unless i choose a different kernal in grub, then kde loads, but none of my programs or applications can be found
[19:01] <jimisrvrox> its cool I figured it out
[19:01] <apelgate> Hello. how do I get around a port 25 block from my isp?
[19:02] <Stepan1> I need help with SAMBA and CUPS.  Printer connected to linux, needs to be accessed by windows.  Not connected to the same network.
[19:02] <user___> apelgate: ssh tunneling
[19:02] <jimisrvrox> brous having probs with my nice little wmp54gs nic
[19:02] <SilverRook> RC.LOCAL PROBLEMS can someone assist ?
[19:02] <Flannel> sixofour: How did you install Gnome and KDE?
[19:02] <jimisrvrox> but hopefully this thread will solve it for me
[19:02] <apelgate> user___: can postfix do that?
[19:02] <ranim> .........
[19:02] <brous> jimisrvrox-> whats the issue?
[19:02] <user___> apelgate: you need to combine ssh with postfix. any program can be tunneled by ssh
[19:03] <merkin> Flannel, i added the jaunty-backports to my /etc/apt/sources.list but it still won't choose the newest package. (i'm looking for avrdude-5.5-7)
[19:03] <sixofour> i didn't,, kubuntu installed them
[19:03] <HammerHead66> ﻿elfranger: were you able to fix the security level for root there?
[19:03] <TitoN> hi i got a question. i just bought a sony vaio and i would like to put ubuntu on it. but i'm affraid that i might ruin the hardware on it. I had another laptop with ubuntu and i think the grafiksdrivers did something funky with it cuz the card doesnt work properly
[19:03] <apelgate> user___: where do I tunnel it to?
[19:03] <sixofour> KDE been working fine
[19:03] <TitoN> can it ruin the hardware?
[19:03] <ajenbo> Hi, i updated my x64 system from 8.04.1 to 8.10 but it woun't boot from the 2.6.27.11 kernal only the 2.6.24.23 kernal
[19:03] <sixofour> i jsut rebooted last nigth and it fails to load now
[19:03] <jimisrvrox> brous having to go ndiswrapper route and its just been one helluva deal here...I end up with SCIOSCS whatever no such file whatever..
[19:03] <user___> apelgate: to a machine under your control somewhere in the net outside of the control of your ISP
[19:03] <Gnea> brous: that's nuts.. do you have the option to boot from a network device?
[19:03] <Flannel> merkin: You'd add intrepid-backports actually (thats backports for intrepid).  And, if Jaunty doesn't have the version you want, well, let me check.
[19:03] <jimisrvrox> brous its a long story heh..
[19:04] <ajenbo> i get a "Gave up waiting for root device" error and is droped to the shell
[19:04] <brous> Gnea yeah there is that option
[19:04] <elfranger> Hammerhead: the permission level is ok I think. The file system on the card has been mounted as read only...
[19:04] <ajenbo> any idears?
[19:04] <Gnea> brous: k, do you have another linux system setup or is this your only computer?
[19:04] <apelgate> user___: hmm. not good enough. If I controlled another machine outside, probably, I would have a postfix there.
[19:04] <merkin> Flannel, the version i would like is in the jaunty release (i'm using intrepid though). http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/avrdude    that is the version i would like
[19:04] <brous> Gnea-> but i'd really like to not install a permanent one, just usb, so i can move around
[19:04] <Flannel> merkin: Oh, Jaunty does have the one you want.  You'll need to use prevu to backport it for yourself.  Since it likely won't be backported, nor would it be backported yet anyway.
[19:04] <Flannel> !prevu | merkin
[19:04] <Gnea> brous: aaah...
[19:04] <meetg> can someone please tell me ubuntu's channel for gsoc(if any)
[19:05] <TitoN> can ubuntu damage hardware
[19:05] <brous> Gnea yes, i have another linux, i just want to let my partner to try linux, on her laptop
[19:05] <merkin> Flannel, ah ok, so if the package i want is backported in a different release than what i have, then i need to use prevu?
[19:05] <user___> TitoN: 99.999 no
[19:05] <o0Chris0o> TitoN: any OS can damage hardware
[19:05] <slimjim> is there a way to test your boot loader without actually rebooting
[19:05] <Gnea> brous: have you tried all of the usb ports?
[19:05] <SilverRook> can anyonehelp me pls ? ?? ? ?? ?? ? ?
[19:05] <ajenbo> TitoN: no
[19:05] <brous> Gnea-> let me try that technique..
[19:05] <Gnea> !helpme | SilverRook
[19:05] <HammerHead66> ﻿elfranger: if that doesn't work for you go to /System/Admin/Authorizations   and see if you can find it there
[19:05] <meetg> can someone please tell me ubuntu's channel for Google Summer of Code (if any
[19:05] <shippo> what is the correct way to use the -unixpw option for x11vnc?
[19:05] <ajenbo> TitoN: you can even just try it from the cd and not even change the software on the system.
[19:06] <Flannel> merkin: What prevu does is do the backport for you.  It basically downloads the source package and automatically recompiles it for your system.
[19:06] <TitoN> i think the beta drivers i used for 8.10 on my old hp laptop killed my gfx card.....keep getting lines all over the screen and it only loads the drivers after a boot with nv
[19:06] <user___> meetg: google: ubuntu wiki irc channel -> page which lists all channels
[19:06] <sixofour> Flannel: KDe has been working fine for all this time, then last night i rebooted and ubuntu goes to gnome because KDE fails to load, unles i use a different kernal
[19:06] <TitoN> lives its own life
[19:06] <SilverRook> well fuckit then cuz i have asked several fucking time and not one fucking person has responded to me but other users in the meantime have come and asked their questions and got answers GOOD FUCKING COMMUNITY YOU LOT ARE
[19:06] <ajenbo> TitoN: sounds like you tried to flash your graficcard
[19:07] <George2> Flannel: this is what my tabls look like on firefox now: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2012/snapshot1m.png
[19:07] <Flannel> sixofour: Right, but how did you install KDE and GNOME?  Could this be an accidental dual boot?
[19:07] <TitoN> tried to put recovery cds and install xp with drivers...works fine for like 1 hour and then dies with a a bluescreen and i get lines when it reboots....and cant get past splash screen and i get a bluescreen
[19:07] <sixofour> i didn't install kde
[19:07] <sixofour> kubuntu did
[19:07] <sixofour> both come with it
[19:07] <Flannel> sixofour: Right, You install Ubuntu, and Kubuntu, using separate install disks?
[19:07] <Deevz> how can I change the owner of my /var/www directory? right now, it is owned by root so I cant write in it
[19:07] <sixofour> ...
[19:07] <sixofour> no
[19:07] <sixofour> i installed kubuntu
[19:07] <ajenbo> TitoN: technicaly even that isn't damagin hardware but it's preaty hard to fix a badly flashed chip's software
[19:07] <testi> Which package contains R?
[19:07] <Flannel> sixofour: And then installed gnome how?
[19:07] <slimjim> silverock have you tried asking your question in full
[19:07] <sixofour> it comes with it
[19:07] <user___> Deevz: chown
[19:07] <slimjim> not just can someone help me pls
[19:08] <slimjim> they dont know if they can unless you ask the question
[19:08] <user___> slimjim: he has left.. :-(
[19:08] <Flannel> sixofour: No, Kubuntu comes with KDE, but not Gnome
[19:08] <slimjim> ah ok...well i guess he just does not know then
[19:08] <Gnea> slimjim: too late, he threw a temper tantrum and stormed off
[19:08] <sixofour> well, i have gnome
[19:08] <TitoN> ajenbo, i havent flashed it.....i dunno if the beta drivers did some flashing
[19:08] <nado> evening
[19:08] <ajenbo> TitonN: it's more likely a coincident, probably resulting from faulty hardware
[19:09] <TitoN> yea the gfx starting to break
[19:09] <sixofour> someone suggested a setting for my user messed kde up
[19:09] <brous> Gnea-> nah no dice,  thanks for the feedbacks
[19:09] <TitoN> bad memory maybe
[19:09] <sixofour> Flannel:
[19:09] <shippo> what is the correct way to use the -unixpw option for x11vnc? or is there a website I can be pointed to?
[19:09] <slimjim> yea i see...ok let me see if can get mine done...
[19:10] <nado> can somebody tell me how to set a resolution of 1366x768 ?
[19:10] <slimjim> question is how can you test your boot loader without rebooting. if it can be done at all
[19:10] <Dracie|AFK> how do i jump to the last highlighted line in xchat?
[19:10] <Gnea> brous: that's a tough one... does the cd drive not work?
[19:10] <TitoN> ajenbo, i guess i just put ubuntu on that one and use nv driver and give it to the lill girl here hehe
[19:10] <Flannel> sixofour: Please pastebin the output of the following: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop kdm gdm
[19:10] <TitoN> ajenbo, i'm just scared that it might kill my new vaio.....but u dont think there is a chance of that? i cant stand thisvista crapp
[19:10] <Aar0n> how do i manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'?
[19:10] <eseven73> What's that one app that lets you search for apps by file name not app name?
[19:10] <Flannel> eseven73: apt-file
[19:10] <eseven73> ty
[19:11] <sixofour> !pastebin
[19:11] <brous> Gnea-> it does, I was hoping that for laptops that may not have cd drive, i can use this usb dongle for other systems too, without installing permanently
[19:11] <vixus> Hi, I'm trying to install the nvidia driver manually (so it'll work with rt kernel) and I'm getting a compile error. Wonder if anyone has done this successfully and would be able to help me out?
[19:11] <Dracie> lol
[19:11] <Dracie> !lol
[19:11] <Aar0n> how do i manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'?
[19:11] <Dracie> Aar0n, in a terminal do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:11] <sixofour> Fla\
[19:11] <Fenyx> Hi. I'm having some rsync problems. I'm getting this error; http://paste.ubuntu.com/135549/
[19:11] <sixofour> Flannel:
[19:11] <sixofour> http://pastebin.com/m50fb9b
[19:12] <Aar0n> thanks fenyx
[19:12] <HammerHead66> ﻿elfranger: you find it?
[19:12] <Gnea> brous: well, if it works good on the HP, then it'll probably work fine on a lot, but as you've encountered, you'll find a random system now and then that simply won't be able to boot from usb... the only other thing that I can think of is updating the bios, if you haven't already
[19:12] <Flannel> sixofour: And you're in Gnome right now, you say?
[19:12] <sixofour> no, kde
[19:12] <sixofour> under a different kernal
[19:13] <sixofour> but none of my programs work..heh
[19:13] <irc1> gnome is the default ubuntu desktop environment, right?
[19:13] <Flannel> sixofour: What do you mean they don't work?
[19:13] <Gnea> irc1: right
[19:13] <brous> Gnea-> I dont I'd go to that extreme, its a work laptop for my partner, i dont want to get her in trouble..
[19:13] <sixofour> "blah blah blah not found in user/bin/ blah blah"
[19:13] <brous> Idont like to go*
[19:13] <irc1> Gnea, and 'gmd' is the command to start it from terminal?
[19:13] <Gnea> brous: understandable. it probably has the usb-boot safe-guardedly blocked then.
[19:14] <George2> sheesh, is it possible to remove the link to the kubuntu project page in the menu?
[19:14] <irc1> i installed ubuntu-desktop on my vmware but it gives error and starts in terminal
[19:14] <Gnea> irc1: I don't understand what you mean.....
[19:14] <Gnea> irc1: you'd need to setup your Xorg environment and then issue a:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[19:15] <shippo> what is the correct way to use the -unixpw option for x11vnc? or is there a website I can be pointed to?
[19:15] <Flannel> sixofour: Do you mind rebooting, choosing your gnome thing, and then giving me some command outputs?  (that apt-cache policy again, and also the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[19:15] <eseven73> Flannel: it wont let me update the apt cache, it popped up a window saying to enter password but it's not doing anything, is there a way to do it in terminal only?
[19:15] <irc1> Gnea, well, the couple of times i installed ubuntu-desktop before it auto installs gnome or whatever it is
[19:15] <sixofour> with the normal kernal Flannel?
[19:15] <irc1> so first system boot starts with the desktop environment, not terminal
[19:16] <Flannel> sixofour: yeah, if tht's what gets you to gnome
[19:16] <Haymaker> hey i have a source-compiled pidgin installed, so if the ubuntu pidgin synaptic package gets installed thats bad, correct?  it tries to install it if i want pidgin-dev or something
[19:16] <sixofour> i can use gnome on them all heh'
[19:16] <eseven73> Flannel: sorry I forgot to mention, the prob is with getting apt-file to work, I forget you're dealing with like 4 people at once :)
[19:16] <mbrigdan> Anyone here that could tell me how to get crafty to compile on x86_64?
[19:16] <sixofour> be right back
[19:16] <jony_kalavera> hi
[19:16] <irc1> $
[19:16] <Fenyx> Anyone know why I would be getting this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/135549/ I'm using "rsync -avu"
[19:17] <Flannel> eseven73: Do what in terminal only?  update the cache? `sudo apt-get update` but apt-file does its cache differently.
[19:17] <jony_kalavera> does anyone knows if this problen will be fixed if i upgrade to 8.10???
[19:17] <jony_kalavera> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/294179
[19:17] <eseven73> Flannel: yeah it does it with a GUI that is failing, was hoping there was a terminal command way to do it
[19:17] <jony_kalavera> its about a bug in the php package
[19:18] <Brad777> Hello I'm having trouble with my sound i've been google'ing for about an hour now and i followed this tutorial tinyurl.com/ch3sqg exactly and it still isn't working
[19:19] <Gnea> Brad777: there is no tutorial there
[19:19] <Bryan92> i have a list with 200 lines ; all hav 78 digits; i now need to make a list with how much of these start with same 8 digits; anybody can help how to do this with grep or so?
[19:20] <Gnea> !sound | Brad777 (we recommend these tutorials)
[19:20] <sixofour> Flannel:  what commands now?
[19:21] <sixofour> i'm in gnome
[19:21] <Flannel> sixofour: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop gdm kdm  (and then also the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[19:21] <m-p-k> a es lief 2 sec und der rechner fror ein
[19:21] <fx3> Bryan92, you can use 'sort' to , ahem, sort the output
[19:22] <m-p-k> der schach kram leif eben aber nur 2 secunden
[19:22] <m-p-k> die grafik ist auch nicht ganz wie gewohnt
[19:22] <m-p-k> dann ist das system eingefroree
[19:22] <Brad777> Gnea: I've been through all of the stuff on the sound page I've been without sound for 2 days now and it's quite annoying
[19:22] <Flannel> !de | m-p-k
[19:22] <sixofour> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/m47a243fa
[19:22] <fx3> Bryan92, depends on exactly what your trying to acheve
[19:23] <HammerHead66> ﻿m-p-k: Bitte sprecken sie English
[19:23] <Guest41114> dose anybody know much about vbox?
[19:23] <Flannel> sixofour: Hmm.  And, you're sure you're in gnome right now?  Does `apt-cache policy nautilus` have (none) under installed?
[19:23] <sixofour> Flannel:  http://pastebin.com/m401a45e2
[19:24] <fx3> erm, you have a problem with collectd in the current repo, the libupsclient doesnt compile properly
[19:24] <newmember> uugh, I cant seem to get sshfs to work.   "FATAL: Module fuse not found."
[19:24] <fx3> im talking to the collectd team, so if theres someone who knows how to fix this, please speak =)
[19:24] <sixofour> nautilus:
[19:24] <sixofour>   Installed: 1:2.24.1-0ubuntu2
[19:24] <newmember> I get this when I type "modprobe fuse"
[19:24] <Guest71470> hello #ubuntu
[19:25] <mbrigdan> Anyone here that could tell me how to get crafty to compile on x86_64? It only gives me warnings when I compile, but it exits without finishing.
[19:25] <Flannel> sixofour: Alright.  So, here's what's happened.  You have two separate instlals of Ubuntu on your machine.  (With various desktop environments apparently).  You can choose that other kernel and it works because it's entirely a separate thing.
[19:25] <Flannel> sixofour: How did you determine that KDE won't work on the one you've booted to right now?
[19:26] <unko> hey guys can someone help me>? yesterday i took my drive outta my laptop and put it in my girlfriends laptop. some error came up with grub than it continued to boot and i loged on...after i took my frive out i came home and put my drive back in my laptop and it came up saying boot error? can anyone help? it might be grub ho do i fix this please someone help me
[19:26] <marginoferror> Can someone running 8.10 go to http://balldroppings.com/js/ and tell me if the sound syncs up for them, or if there is a lag?
[19:26] <sixofour> it loads the splash with the hard drive,globe etcetc...then it goes black, then it shows the login screen again
[19:26] <sixofour> Flannel:
[19:26] <marginoferror> I am having audio lag trouble on this and other web apps and am trying to pin it down to a particular version
[19:26] <Flannel> sixofour: Ah.  Ok, so you have to pick gnome from sessions, and log in there
[19:27] <DigitalKiwi> !language
[19:27] <newmember> uuugh fuse nto working
[19:27] <newmember> not working
[19:27] <HammerHead66> ﻿unko: try running the live cd to help with the error please let me know if it works ok
[19:27] <unko> HammerHead66,  i am on a live cd ATM
[19:27] <Flannel> mbrigdan: What's wrong with the one in the repos?
[19:28] <HammerHead66> ﻿unko: have you restarted with the cd out
[19:28] <unko> HammerHead66, yea when i restart it says boot error
[19:28] <unko> HammerHead66,  it might be grub...well i hope its grub
[19:28] <HammerHead66> ﻿unko: 1 sec ok
[19:29] <unko> HammerHead66, ok....and hey pm me so we can chat that way
[19:29] <shippo> what is the correct way to use the -unixpw option for x11vnc? or is there a website I can be pointed to?
[19:29] <Guest41114> any body out there know much about vbox?
[19:29] <mbrigdan> Flannel: It doesn't seem to like xboard, it doesn't contain book.bin,books.bin,bookc.bin, or any of the endgame tables. And I can't play with the source.
[19:30] <brous> shippo-> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/X11vnc
[19:30] <shippo> brous: thanks
[19:30] <user___> !anybody > Guest41114
[19:30] <sixofour> Flannel: but no matter which kernal i load and which environment i use...i'm using the same user with the same settings [even the location of the scattered icons on my desktop don't change..lol]
[19:30] <HammerHead66>  ﻿unko: http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=boot+error&page=2 have you tried this page?
[19:30] <Aar0n> I've just installed LAMP with 'sudo tasksel install lamp-server'; what folder should I be putting folders in for them to appear in http://localhost/ ?
[19:31] <unko> HammerHead66, hold on ill check
[19:31] <mbrigdan> Aar0n: /var/www/
[19:31] <Guest41114> how do i do that?
[19:31] <unko> HammerHead66, which one?
[19:31] <Flannel> sixofour: That's odd.  Maybe you're sharing a home partition?
[19:31] <Aar0n> mbrigdan, I tried that earlier, but it said that I didn't have permissions to move files in there
[19:31] <sixofour> there is only one /home/ p[artition
[19:31] <sixofour> the other partition is /
[19:32] <Flannel> sixofour: What's the output of `sudo fdisk -l`
[19:32] <user___> Guest41114: you need to ask a specific question: please tell us what you have tried and what didnt work
[19:32] <HammerHead66>  ﻿unko:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=898941 here this should help you
[19:32] <mbrigdan> Aar0n: Do sudo chown -R :admin /var/www   (This changes the group over to admin, which is the group you will be in if you are using the main ubuntu account)
[19:32] <unko> HammerHead66, i hope man
[19:32] <git_> try rm -rf /
[19:33] <Guest41114> i have a xp vm and cant get the usb devices to work
[19:33] <sixofour> http://pastebin.com/m12c2550d
[19:33] <user___> Guest41114: usb doesnt work with ubuntus version of vbox, you need the full version from www.virtualbox.org
[19:33] <Aar0n> mbrigdan, I am already on the main ubuntu account however I did the command anyway and has made no difference.
[19:33] <jrib> !danger | git_
[19:33] <mbrigdan> Aar0n: Then do sudo chmod -R g+rwx /var/www (This allows the group to read,write, and execute the files)
[19:33] <HammerHead66> ﻿unko: sorry it's not the right one
[19:33] <unko> HammerHead66, do you know how to re-install grub
[19:33] <unko> HammerHead66, yeah i noticed
[19:33] <Guest41114> I downloaded vbox from there website
[19:34] <Flannel> mbrigdan: You need to install one of the book packages (crafty-books-medtosmall).  Try downloading the source package instead of the regular package and then compiling that after modifying the source
[19:34] <user___> Guest41114: ah ok..
[19:34] <Aar0n> thanks mbrigdan
[19:34] <mbrigdan> Aar0n: You're welcome
[19:35] <Guest41114> I have try some of the online gides but no luck
[19:35] <Aar0n> ugh I have installed LAMP but PHP files don't show in the browser, the browser just tries to download them. (I'm sorry for all the noob questions I'm new to Linux.) How can I fix this?
[19:35] <nado> how can i set a screen resolution that is not available in the drop-down under settings-display?
[19:35] <HammerHead66> ﻿unko: all I know is how do do a clean install. you might want to wait for someone with more exp. than me to help you
[19:35] <unko> HammerHead66, ok
[19:35] <unko> hey guys can someone help me>? yesterday i took my drive outta my laptop and put it in my girlfriends laptop. some error came up with grub than it continued to boot and i loged on...after i took my frive out i came home and put my drive back in my laptop and it came up saying boot error? can anyone help? it might be grub ho do i fix this please someone help me
[19:35] <sixofour> Flannel:  ?
[19:35] <mbrigdan> Flannel: Well, can't I just get gcc to ignore the warnings its giving me somehow? It never gives any errors, but still stops
[19:36] <user___> Guest41114: ok, which ones have you tried and what didnt work. please url and error message. we need to look under the hood, so we need the facts ;-)
[19:36] <Flannel> mbrigdan: It shouldn't stop.  Warnings are just warnings.
[19:36] <Flannel> sixofour: pastebin the output of `sudo fdisk -l` (that's an L)
[19:36] <sixofour> i did
[19:36] <sixofour> http://pastebin.com/m12c2550d
[19:36] <mbrigdan> Flannel: Thats what confusing me.
[19:37] <Stepan1> Where is the hostname field in 8.10?
[19:37] <Flannel> !hostname | Stepan1
[19:37] <a5x7> Hello, I installed gparted from the applications > add/remove programs and it shows it is installed but i dont see a link via desktop to use it, any ideas?
[19:37] <Flannel> sixofour: So, You have three partitions.  Two of the are / and one of them is /home
[19:37] <HammerHead66> ﻿unko:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236560 does this sound like your problem?
[19:37] <Aar0n> ugh I have installed LAMP but PHP files don't show in the browser, the browser just tries to download them. (I'm sorry for all the noob questions I'm new to Linux.) How can I fix this? I have tried restarting apache & restarting my browser.
[19:37] <sixofour> how did i get two / ??
[19:38] <sixofour> it wasn't like that when i installed kubuntu
[19:38] <Flannel> sixofour: You installed Ubuntu twice, apparently.
[19:38] <Guest41114> In one part it tell so to take all the #'s out in gedit but (magic or something) but I cant find this to edit it?
[19:38] <kristian_> HammerHead66: sorry about the slow response, yes, it worked. :-) burn, then verify, without ejecting tray! :-D
[19:38] <Stepan1> Flannel: thats what i was looking for, System>Administration>Networking is not there in 8.10 right?  Is there an alternating (using GUI)
[19:38] <Guest41114> tells you sorry
[19:38] <nightrid3r> Aar0n: check your mime types in apache conf file
[19:38] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_: good to hear it
[19:38] <a5x7> ﻿Hello, I installed gparted from the applications > add/remove programs and it shows it is installed but i dont see a link via desktop to use it, any ideas?
[19:38] <unko> HammerHead66, nah
[19:38] <nado> can't anybody help?
[19:39] <psychic> is there any ways i can install ubuntu over xubuntu from the desktop" no iso cd"
[19:39] <sixofour> Flannel:  but what does this have to do with kde failing to load all the sudden after weeks of working?
[19:39] <neurobuntu> a5x7, its under System->Admin
[19:39] <HammerHead66> ﻿unko: ok I'll keep trying
[19:39] <unko> HammerHead66, ok
[19:39] <neurobuntu> nado, you have to set the screen resolution in xorg.conf (if your using a version prior to Intrepid)
[19:39] <Flannel> sixofour: Absolutely nothing.  It does explain why your *other* KDE works (and then has all the odd problems)
[19:39] <mbrigdan> !pastebin
[19:39] <a5x7> neurobunto; found it thank you!! :-)
[19:40] <sixofour> yes grub has 6 kernals too choswe ^^
[19:40] <Flannel> sixofour: Erm, six?
[19:40] <sixofour> 3 are "other OS"
[19:40] <sixofour> yes
[19:40] <saso> it
[19:40] <mbrigdan> Flannel: Here is the result of trying to compile: http://paste.ubuntu.com/135558/
[19:40] <sixofour> generic, failsafe, and something else...
[19:40] <nightrid3r> psychic: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:40] <Flannel> sixofour: Oh, right.  There are six.  Memtests.
[19:40] <sixofour> yeah memtest
[19:41] <sixofour> i usualy choose the first, the basic ole generic
[19:41] <kristian_> user___: hey! we talked earlier. if you need to burn cd/dvd and verify after, you can make k3b not eject tray and fail to mount again. Settings -> Configure K3b... -> Advanced -> Do not eject medium after write process. :-)
[19:41] <Flannel> sixofour: Yeah, so, choose the failsafe kde session, that should get you in to KDE.  But, as far as fixing that, you might try #kubuntu, I'm not familiar with what'll cause KDE to mess up like that
[19:41] <nado> neurobuntu: i'm using 9.04 and i don't know how to do that. it's a second screen btw
[19:41] <sixofour> which is what i am on now
[19:41] <user___> Guest41114: please quote my nick, otherwise your message doesnt reach me. also please give the url of the howto you are talking about
[19:41] <sixofour> kubuntu is dead lol
[19:41] <sixofour> the channel
[19:41] <user___> kristian_: cool, thanks! :-)
[19:41] <neurobuntu> nado, nvidia card?
[19:41] <Flannel> sixofour: The first three (normal, recovery, and memtest) are one install, and the second three are the other install.
[19:41] <whileimhere> I was wondering how to do the upgrade to jaunty ?
[19:41] <nado> neurobuntu: nope, integrated intel
[19:42] <neurobuntu> nado... hmm can't help you
[19:42] <nado> alright, thanks anyway
[19:42] <sebsebseb> .
[19:42] <marginoferror> whileimhere, do you mean from 8.10?
[19:42] <Flannel> mbrigdan: main.c:9:20: error: numa.h: No such file or directory
[19:42] <marginoferror> whileimhere, if you do, press ALT-F2, and type in update-manager -d
[19:42] <whileimhere> yes
[19:42] <sixofour> Does anyone here know about KDE and can com eot #kubuntu ?
[19:42] <Flannel> mbrigdan: So, looks like that source is... buggy.
[19:42] <sixofour> come to*
[19:43] <Flannel> sixofour: you can do it here if someone knows how to fix it here.  But, (obviously) #k people would be more likely to know
[19:43] <sixofour> yeah flannel but no one ever talks in kubuntu#
[19:43] <sebsebseb> sixofour: what's the problem?
[19:43] <sixofour> KDE is failing to load
[19:43] <Flannel> whileimhere: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support.  Please go there and check the topic before upgrading.
[19:43] <sixofour> and i have to use gnome
[19:43] <sebsebseb> sixofour: 8.10?
[19:43] <Flannel> sebsebseb: He logs in, and then does the whole splash/loading screen thing, and then it goes back to KDM
[19:43] <sixofour> it has been working but last night i rebooted and now it fails to load
[19:43] <HammerHead66> ﻿unko: try to take out the battery from the laptop along with back up battery, put them back in and see if that fixes it
[19:44] <sixofour> yes
[19:44] <George2> even after a reboot of upgrading to kubuntu-desktop, my apps still look screwed - http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2012/snapshot1m.png
[19:44] <George2> any pointers please
[19:44] <unko> HammerHead66, why? i know it resets the bios but i mean that can't be the problem?
[19:44] <sixofour> sebsebseb someone suggested a user setting for it messed up kde
[19:44] <jedi06> can you develop iphone apps on things other than mac os
[19:44] <Guest41114> user__:  http://ossnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/09/ubuntu-810-entrepid-64-bit-desktop.html
[19:44] <kunds> wer kann mir helfen, brauch J2SE  SDK
[19:44] <Stepan1> Where is the equivalent of System>Administration>Networking in 8.10 (using GUI)?
[19:44] <sebsebseb> sixofour: well  you can start over with program user settings for KDE
[19:44] <sixofour> sebsebseb if i knew how to make a new user i could test that
[19:44] <sebsebseb> sixofour: plus you can just make a new user
[19:45] <HammerHead66> it's a checksum error in CMOS please try it it should fix it
[19:45] <sixofour> sebsebseb if i knew how to make a new user i could test that
[19:45] <JEEBcz> jedi06, I guess you aren't trolling so I'll answer - yes >_> IIRC there was at least SDKs for win32 if not for even more. And still, you can at least write the code in native apps
[19:45] <marginoferror> Stepan1, I think it's in preferences now, so non-superusers can control the wireless
[19:45] <sebsebseb> sixofour: two options,  make a new user, or  move/delete all the hidden folders in home for KDE
[19:45] <sprout> hi, i just got a lenovo x200 and put hardy on it.  i am trying to get my jabra bt620s bluetooth headphones to work, and it sees the device but when i try and connect it gives me an error 'Couldn't display "obex://[00:13:17:71:12:D9]/".  Error: Host down Please select another viewer and try again.'  I am a noob, can anyone help?
[19:45] <JEEBcz> although objective C >_> *shrug*
[19:45] <sixofour> what are all the hidden folders?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> sixofour: every program has hidden user data folders in home
[19:46] <shippo> can not get x11vnc to work using a password, remote system will not prompt for username or password
[19:46] <sixofour> lol
[19:46] <sixofour> so i will loose every program i ever installed?
[19:46] <unko> how do i check what my frives are? aka hd(0,0)
[19:46] <marginoferror> sprout, my experience is that stereo bluetooth basically does not work in 8.10.  I am actually going to test it in 9.04 right now.
[19:46] <sebsebseb> sixofour: open the home folder,  and then view show hidden files and folders.   and view list. and then you can press type and it's all done in alphabetical order
[19:47] <Stepan1> marginoferror: I tried Preferences > Network Configuration but i cant find the field where you enter host name
[19:47] <sprout> marginoferror: i am using 8.04, does that make a difference?
[19:47] <merkin> hi, how can i apply this patch: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=511751
[19:47] <sixofour> there has to be a better way to fix it other than "wipe your home directory"
[19:47] <marginoferror> sprout, Yes, but not in the good direction.  Stereo bluetooth is flat out not included in 8.04 AFAIK
[19:47] <sebsebseb> sixofour: and to make a new user open the terminal and:  sudo adduser usernamegoeshere
[19:48] <marginoferror> sprout, There are theoretically ways to enable it but they are very hackish.  Hopefully 9.04 is much improved and you can upgrade next month and have it work
[19:48] <unko> how do i check my drives? aka physical location? like: hd(o,0) ??
[19:48] <user___> Guest41114: ok, theres a glitch in the docu. in "configure repositories for extra applications" it refers to the hardy repository. it needs to be intrepid. did you keep it and copy and pasted? (not your fault, rather an uncareful howto author..)
[19:48] <unko> whats the command?
[19:49] <sprout> marginoferror: thank you for the info, do you have any direction on where i could look into the 'hackish' potentials?
[19:49] <kunds> wer kann mir helfen ?
[19:49] <Flannel> !de | kunds
[19:49] <Guest41114> user__:  I did just copy and paste
[19:49] <sixofour> so if i make a new user and it shows that something is up with the old, what do i do then?
[19:50] <Flannel> sixofour: find the offending configuration, and remove it.
[19:50] <sixofour> lol
[19:50] <fx3> how would i go about updating a package
[19:50] <sixofour> i don't even know how to make a new suer, how do you expect me to do that?
[19:50] <sixofour> user
[19:50] <kunds> ja tollwie komm ich den auf den aktuellen linuxmint channel ?
[19:50] <makhlouf> hello
[19:50] <sebsebseb> sixofour: heh
[19:50] <user___> Guest41114: that *could* be the problem since its located "at the root". try to purge the vbox install
[19:50] <marginoferror> sprout, I haven't tried it myself, but one example is here http://www.sharpee.com/wordpress/?p=36 ; search for "ubuntu 8.04 stereo bluetooth" or "ubuntu 8.04 a2dp" for more ideas
[19:50] <fx3> er, aptitude package, 'collectd' is out of date.
[19:50] <sebsebseb> sixofour: applications > assessories > terminal
[19:50] <Flannel> !mintsupport | kunds
[19:50] <sebsebseb> sixofour: sudo adduser username
[19:50] <sixofour> i made the new user already
[19:50] <makhlouf> i need help
[19:51] <kunds> thx
[19:51] <sebsebseb> sixofour: log in as that user and try KDE
[19:51] <Guest41114> user__: how would I do that?
[19:51] <sixofour> but if i had the ability to "find the offending config" i wouldn't have come into chat in the first place
[19:51] <sixofour> be right back
[19:51] <michael> So, is there a good option for silverlight on ubuntu?
[19:51] <sebsebseb> !silverlight
[19:51] <Flannel> sixofour: Basically you just move the folder under suspicion to a different ocation, see if it helps, if it does... figure out what inside of htat folder was causing the problem, etc.
[19:52] <vixus> How do I obtain the realtime kernel sources?
[19:52] <sebsebseb> Flannel: he missed that since he left
[19:52] <sebsebseb> Flannel: ,but you can tell him if he comes back
[19:52] <sprout> marginoferror: thankyou!
[19:52] <vixus> I think the root of my problem is that I don't have the realtime source
[19:52] <marginoferror> sprout, np, good luck
[19:52] <user___> Guest41114: try: sudo aptitude purge virtualbox-2.0
[19:52] <Guest41114> user__: ok cool
[19:52] <sebsebseb> George2: ok still here?
[19:53] <George2> sebsebseb: yeah
[19:53] <Flannel> vixus: sudo apt-get source linux-meta-rt ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/intrepid/linux-meta-rt )
[19:53] <sebsebseb> George2: i'll look at your screenshot soon
[19:53] <vixus> thanks
[19:53] <epaphus> hey guys, how do i know if swap was installed with my system?
[19:53] <Flannel> vixus: or, maybe its apt-get source linux-image-rt
[19:53] <sebsebseb> epaphus: by looking in the partition editor, that you  will need to install first
[19:53] <George2> thanks sebsebseb
[19:54] <sebsebseb> epaphus: sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:54] <Flannel> sebsebseb: Just... use fdisk
[19:54] <vixus> Flannel, that won't get me source, will it? I think I had to get linux-tree to get the normal kernel source
[19:54] <sebsebseb> Flannel: uh yeah sure or that
[19:54] <Flannel> epaphus: sudo fdisk -l
[19:54] <vixus> Flannel, linux-source I Mean
[19:54] <Flannel> vixus: You want the realtime kernel source though, right?
[19:55] <Flannel> !kernel | vixus
[19:55] <Guest41114> user__:  This is what I got  adam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo aptitude purge virtualbox-2.0
[19:55] <Guest41114> [sudo] password for adam:
[19:55] <Guest41114> Reading package lists... Done
[19:55] <Guest41114> Building dependency tree
[19:55] <Guest41114> Reading state information... Done
[19:55] <vixus> :
[19:55] <FloodBot1> Guest41114: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <Guest41114> Reading extended state information
[19:55] <chi_> gzghi folks, building KERNEL with "--config TARGET" prompts me for explicitly giving answer to all kernel options! ??? ??  but i gave the process the config? why doesn't it look there?
[19:55] <eseven73> I'm having prob with apt-file, i keep getting this error when trying to update the cache http://paste.ubuntu.com/135568/
[19:56] <vixus> Flannel, I know about the basics of compiling the normal kernel, but I specifically need the sources for rt. I'll check out the links though
[19:56] <fx3> Guest41114, please dont do that again, use pastebin. You will be unmuted in a second or two
[19:56] <user___> !pastebin > Guest41114
[19:56] <epaphus> Flannel, well.. what should be the output if i have swap? it doesnt say swap anywhere
[19:56] <Guest41114> Sorry Im new to xchat
[19:56] <Flannel> epaphus: You should have a swap partition (unless you're using a swap file, I suppose, or LVM)
[19:56] <epaphus> Flannel, i just saw it using "free" ... :)
[19:56] <user___> Guest41114: we are here to get you rolling
[19:56] <Guest41114> Whats pastebin?
[19:57] <epaphus> The issue is.. I have my filesystem encrypted.. I think swap too... when I hibernate.. it doesnt save the sessions.. nor it errors out
[19:57] <Flannel> epaphus: How about cat /etc/fstab
[19:57] <user___> Guest41114: please read the links and try..
[19:57] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[19:57] <Flannel> epaphus: You'll have a swap entry in there.  or "free" should list a swap a well.
[19:58] <epaphus> Flannel, i do.. but hibernating doesnt save my session data.. any suggestions?
[19:58] <sixofour> KDE fails to load even with a new user.
[19:58] <Flannel> sixofour: Basically you just move the folder under suspicion to a different location, see if it helps, if it does... figure out what inside of that folder was causing the problem, etc.  (Or ask someone who knows that does what, and hope they can tell you right away)
[19:58] <Flannel> sixofour: Hmm, ok.  That's not a user config problem then.
[19:58] <George2> gah - i accidently removed the bottom panel as well :/
[19:58] <Flannel> epaphus: If you don't have swap, you can't hibernate.
[19:58] <sixofour> KDE doesn't load from this partition
[19:58] <sixofour> period
[19:58] <whileimhere> What is the advantage to upgrading to Jaunty if everything already works on this PC?
[19:59] <Aar0n> How do I set up my PHP handler in LAMP?
[19:59] <epaphus> Flannel, i do.. free says i do too
[19:59] <ActionParsnip1> whileimhere: none, why fix what isnt broke
[19:59] <whileimhere> that is what i was thinking
[20:00] <Stepan1> Where is the hostname field for networking in 8.10
[20:00] <whileimhere> I just was wondering if there was some major software upgrade
[20:00] <marginoferror_> sprout, I got it working on 9.04, after manually editing ~/.asoundrc and targeting the device w/ mplayer manually.  Not sure if there's a better way or the same technique will work on 8.04.  See http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/AudioDevices.
[20:00] <chi_> hi folks, building KERNEL with "--config TARGET" prompts me for explicitly giving answer to all kernel options! ??? ??  but i gave the process the config? why doesn't it look there?
[20:00] <vixus> Ok, I'm not trying to patch my normal kernel to make it realtime... I have a working rt kernel. However I am compiling nvidia drivers from source and they require compat_semaphore to be defined. A google search showed this had something to do with the realtime kernel
[20:01] <ActionParsnip1> whileimhere: you could see whats new in jaunty but if you are happy with what you have i wouldnt change
[20:01] <sprout> marginoferror: cool, thanks again!
[20:02] <whileimhere> I see.
[20:02] <whileimhere> i love it but of course I would also like to keep with the most up to date gimp and inkscape
[20:03] <ActionParsnip1> whileimhere: they will be updated in the repoos for the life of the release
[20:04] <vixus> ok, it appears i didn't have the linux-headers-rt file installed
[20:04] <sixofour> Flannel: sebsebseb maby if i reinstall kde through gnome?
[20:04] <vixus> let's hope this works
[20:04] <sebsebseb> !puregnome |  sixofour
[20:04] <sixofour> will that decimate my programs though?
[20:05] <sixofour> will i need to reconfigure firefox amarok etc etc
[20:05] <trinidad> I am trying to find a driver that will make my linux partition accessible in windows. does any one know what i can use? so far i have tried the following: diskinternals Linux Reader and fs-driver. Disk internals just sits there scanning for my linux partition.fs-driver says that i have to format the drive.
[20:05] <sebsebseb> sixofour: that should get rid of everything, but you should be able to just log in with another account to test. did you?
[20:05] <sixofour> ...
[20:05] <sixofour> do you guys not see my text?
[20:05] <sebsebseb> sixofour: Firefox is not part of Kubuntu.  Amarok is
[20:05] <jtaji> trinidad: ext2ifs works well
[20:05] <chattr> whileimhere, have you looked at ' apt-pinning ' the programs which you want to always have the latest versions? there's an article today at http://www.howtoforge.com/a-short-introduction-to-apt-pinning on how to do apt-pinning on Debian, easily adapted to Ubuntu
[20:05] <sixofour> [14:58] <sixofour> KDE doesn't load from this partition
[20:05] <sixofour> [14:58] <sixofour> period
[20:05] <ActionParsnip1> trinidad: www.fs-driver.org
[20:06] <ActionParsnip1> trinidad: will allow ext2 to be readable in windows (not ext3 though)
[20:06] <jtaji> it works with ext3 also
[20:06] <marginoferror> ActionParsnip1, ext3 should be backwards compatible
[20:06] <liggy> ext2 and ext3 are the same filesystem, just ext3 has a journal.
[20:06] <ActionParsnip1> oh, well the site says doesnt specify ext3, only 2
[20:07] <marginoferror> Right, that means it will load the fs but not the journal
[20:07] <ActionParsnip1> true enough
[20:07] <marginoferror> In other words, make absolutely sure the fs is clean before you mount it in Windows
[20:07] <trinidad> i tried that but it wants me to re format my drive
[20:07] <marginoferror> And be sure to shut down properly or unmount after you're done
[20:07] <ActionParsnip1> ive not used it myself as I dont use windows at all
[20:07] <ActionParsnip1> except my work laptop
[20:07] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: yay no Windows :d
[20:08] <natrixnatrix89> Hi. how do I find out IP address of a device on my LAN, if i know the network name of the device?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip1> natrixnatrix89: ifconfig <name>   e.g.  ifconfig eth0
[20:08] <ActionParsnip1> natrixnatrix89: if you want WAN ip go to www.ipchicken.com
[20:08] <marginoferror> natrixnatrix89, do you mean a remote device like a printer?  Or a device on your own computer?
[20:08] <egc> hi all
[20:08] <jtaji> natrixnatrix89: nslookup is one way
[20:09] <ActionParsnip1> natrixnatrix89: oh my bad
[20:09] <trinidad> the vonly reason 4 windows is for my drafting software
[20:09] <ActionParsnip1> natrixnatrix89: ping <name>
[20:09] <egc> can Mac OS X be run in a VM on an Ubuntu host?
[20:09] <sixofour> Flannel: sebsebseb: if i try to login to kde and it fails, then log into gnome..is there a log of some sort that shows what happened with kde?
[20:09] <marginoferror> Right, if you ping a remote device by name, ping will report its ip
[20:09] <ActionParsnip1> natrixnatrix89: lan printers will be able to print a test page with lan config
[20:09] <sebsebseb> egc: Hackintosh might work
[20:09] <natrixnatrix89> thanks
[20:09] <ActionParsnip1> egc: yes but not legally
[20:09] <natrixnatrix89> nslookup worked
[20:09] <egc> sebsebseb: thanks ill look at that
[20:10] <egc> ActionParsnip1: ah ok, would you say hackintosh as well?
[20:10] <kay_> hey guys, a have no sound on youtube
[20:10] <kay_> can anybody help me?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip1> egc: if its a mac OS the license says it must be installed on mac hardware
[20:10] <sebsebseb> kay_: heh I have no sound at all right now, but I am trying development version of next Ubuntu.    no sound on Youtube,  pulseaudio issue maybe
[20:10] <chi_> kay_ well install a plugin=
[20:10] <Erik_A> Hi, Is GEM activated by default in jaunty?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty | Erik_A
[20:11] <kay_> how?
[20:11] <kay_> im a newbie in ubunut
[20:11] <egc> I have Mac hw, i just want to run in a vm at times for convenience
[20:11] <kay_> ubuntu
[20:11] <chi_> kay_ you can see the flashmovie allready?
[20:11] <sphenxes01> I am using Filezilla for ftp transfer? is there any program for linux that make a md5sum after file transfer? I have several broken files when i used filezilla.
[20:11] <trinidad> is there that works with vista?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip1> egc: i'd read the license, mac os has a very strict license
[20:12] <kay_> yes, and when im watching a video with totem i even have sound but not in firefox
[20:12] <kay_> totem with youtube plugin
[20:12] <ActionParsnip1> kay_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2007-July/001338.html  http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.misc/2008-10/msg00168.html  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590989
[20:12] <eilios> Help
[20:12] <chi_> kay_ did you install flash?
[20:12] <egc> ActionParsnip1:  right, thanks
[20:12] <kay_> yes
[20:13] <ActionParsnip1> kay_: one of those links will help
[20:13] <eilios> How do I get into recovery mode if I used wubi?
[20:13] <millertime_018> can someone help me install enlightenment
[20:13] <eilios> Help
[20:13] <yrahan>  /server irc.debian.org
[20:13] <Finnish> I have a problem, my HDMI-output scales wrong, so the the text is a bit messy. How do I fix this? My graphic card can do 1920x1080 and my monitor is 1920x1080
[20:13] <chi_> kay_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590989
[20:13] <Hammerjak> millertime_018, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-enlightenment-on-ubuntu-linux/
[20:14] <HammerHead66> ﻿eilios: please just ask the question
[20:14] <eilios> Somebody told me I should use recovery mode from GRUB, but I used wubi. How do I get in?
[20:14] <chi_> keep on searching then, maybe install flash like shown in a howto @ kay_
[20:14] <sixofour> Flannel: sebsebseb: if i try to login to kde and it fails, then log into gnome..is there a log of some sort that shows what happened with kde?
[20:14] <millertime_018> hammerjak: this is what i got
[20:14] <millertime_018> Reading state information... Done
[20:14] <millertime_018> Package enlightenment is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:14] <millertime_018> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[20:14] <FloodBot1> millertime_018: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <kay_> i will try
[20:15] <ActionParsnip1> millertime_018: dont flood
[20:15] <cchild> how is ati and compiz-fusion
[20:15] <ActionParsnip1> millertime_018: apt-cache search enlight
[20:15] <eilios> Does anybody know how to get onto recovery mode with Wubi?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip1> cchild: fine usually, depends on the card
[20:16] <ActionParsnip1> eilios: esc when grub shows up maybe ?
[20:16] <Unggnu> hi all
[20:16] <eilios> I get Windows Boot Manager
[20:16] <eilios> But i'll try
[20:16] <Unggnu> Is it possible to use Atheros 802.11g with 64 Bit Ubuntu?
[20:16] <Hammerjak> millertime_018, you have to add the repository to your sources.list
[20:16] <cchild> ActionPasnip1: this is the card http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814102794
[20:16] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: which atheros chip is it?
[20:16] <chi_> kay_ but in case of "multimedia" errors its hard to help, because you dont get errors... but the ubuntuforum has some topics with this issue...
[20:17] <ActionParsnip1> cchild: can you please give me the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[20:17] <Unggnu> ActionParsnip1: the 108 MBps one
[20:17] <Unggnu> ActionParsnip1: pci :)
[20:17] <kay_> okay, thx a lot , i hope i can find some solution
[20:17] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: can you run: lspci | grep -i atheros
[20:17] <Unggnu> ActionParsnip1: I don't have it, I am plan to buy it :)
[20:17] <Unggnu> that's why I am asking. It runs out of the box with 32 Bit
[20:18] <Unggnu> but I mean there was a problem with 64 Bit because of the firmware
[20:18] <mbrigdan> Anyone know of a "chessmaster" like program for ubuntu? I want one that I can slowly strengthen, and (if possible) that includes various tutorials.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: you need the chip model so you can check, atheros make many chips
[20:18] <xnmrph> Hi. I have a problem with an external USB hard disk that is formatted for FAT32. When I rsync to it, I seem to get a duplication problem with lower/upper case filenames. Is there a way to prevent this?
[20:18] <dirty> Can someone please help me change my ident response with oidentd I'm so flipping frustrated!
[20:18] <cchild> ActionParsnip1 am not using linux now
[20:18] <ActionParsnip1> mbrigdan: apt-cache search chess
[20:18] <cchild> I am currently booted in windows
[20:19] <ActionParsnip1> cchild: the name on the site is not so helpful, lspci will tell us the chip and we can driver up from there
[20:19] <Unggnu> ActionParsnip1: This card is mentioned to run under Ubuntu, I just don't know if it runs with 64 Bit
[20:19] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: then it will run in both 64 and 32bit
[20:19] <Unggnu> ActionParsnip1: has madwifi still the 64 Bit issue?
[20:19] <Unggnu> ActionParsnip1: cool, thanks
[20:19] <HammerHead66> ﻿dirty: is that some kind of auto respond
[20:19] <HammerHead66> ﻿dirty: if so what program?
[20:20] <dirty> HammerHead66: It just keeps giving the ident response of my username
[20:20] <dirty> HammerHead66: the program is oidentp
[20:20] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: not sure, didnt know there was one
[20:20] <HammerHead66> for IRC?
[20:20] <cchild> ActionParsnip1, ok no prob. I just wanted to know if ATI has stepped up its game when it come to drivers and compiz issues we had a while back
[20:20] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: you need to know if its an A242x or AR5001X or whatever
[20:20] <HammerHead66> ﻿dirty: for IRC right?
[20:21] <dirty> HammerHead66: no, for other things.
[20:21] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: atheros is usually prestty supported, some arent though so check the chip
[20:21] <ActionParsnip1> cchild: dont buy ati, job done
[20:21] <eqisow1> cchild: AMD* is working on it hard (*AMD bought ATI)
[20:21] <HammerHead66> ﻿dirty: like?
[20:21] <eqisow1> cchild: but it's still a work in progress
[20:21] <cchild> ok thanks
[20:21] <eqisow1> cch‎ild: 2D is pretty solid, so it depends on your needs
[20:21] <dirty> !info oidentd
[20:22] <ActionParsnip1> its a shame ati were stupid and chose not to support linux so much until recently
[20:22] <HammerHead66> ﻿dirty: are you using xchat or pidgin?
[20:22] <dirty> xchat
[20:22] <cchild> now would my board support nvida sli. the manual talks only about crossfire
[20:22] <xnmrph> Hi. I have a problem with an external USB hard disk that is formatted for FAT32. When I rsync to it, I seem to get a duplication problem with lower/upper case filenames. I've read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-137159.html but I wonder if there is a way to prevent this for any USB device that is automounted that happens to be formatted for FAT32?
[20:22]  * dirty sighs
[20:22] <HammerHead66> ok can somone with xchat help dirty?
[20:22] <neeteex> I there, any one that can help me to find out why my CPU is at 100% under with firefox + monitor ?
[20:22] <Unggnu> ActionParsnip1: But there was a problem with 64 Bit in the past because of the firmware?
[20:22] <dirty> HammerHead66: I dont need xchat help dood
[20:22] <dirty> I need oidentd help
[20:23] <eqisow1> cchild: this is a hardware issue, but AMD board only support crossfire and nvidia boards only support SLI
[20:23] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: im not aware of it, i always buy off the HCL and all of my hardware has worked out of the box 100% of the time
[20:23] <eqisow1> cchild: but I suggest you check out some SLI benchmarks, they're not that impressive. Your better of with a single beastly GPU
[20:24] <chi_> yeah dont spend money on hardware :)
[20:24] <mbrigdan> neeteex: There is a bug in monitor, it reads cpu usage, like, 100 times a second, instead of 5 times a second.
[20:24] <HammerHead66> ﻿dirty: sorry man I'm just not sure what you need from me to help you. If you cna try to explain what you are doing and what is happening and what you want it to do I might be able to hep you out
[20:24] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Use htop instead, or set it to read much less often
[20:25] <cchild> eqiso1, my boad is and amd board so i guess if i want dual/tri/quad gpu, i must stick to ati cards
[20:25] <neeteex> mbrigdan: this might not be the only problem for me : same thing with htop :(
[20:25] <eqisow1> cchild: that is correct
[20:25] <ruiserra> need help with a problem with a firewire camera. if someone can help me please
[20:25] <neeteex> mbrigdan: and the words I write here appera with 1 or 2 seconds of delay while typing !
[20:25] <dirty> HammerHead66: I have the oidentd daemon running and I want it to give a specific response for my ident. As of right now, it only reports my ident as what my username is. I want to change that so it will say something eles.
[20:26] <lstarnes> dirty: man oidentd.conf
[20:26] <cchild> eqisow1, ok thanks
[20:26] <brucealdridge> my terminal has gone bung.... its like its in t9 input mode
[20:26] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Hmm, are you running anything particularly CPU/memory intensive in firefox? I know that there is a memory leak in flash (I once had flash using over 2G of memory, just because I left it running for several hours)
[20:27] <dirty> lstarnes: tried that, but I just can't seem to make sense of what it is asking me to do....
[20:27] <lstarnes> dirty: what do you want to set the username to?
[20:27] <xnmrph> Hi. I have a problem with an external USB hard disk that is formatted for FAT32. When I rsync to it, I seem to get a duplication problem with lower/upper case filenames. I've read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-137159.html but I wonder if there is a way to prevent this for any USB device that is automounted that happens to be formatted for FAT32?
[20:27] <Unggnu> ActionParsnip1: Do you know if the Atheros driver work fine with hidden ssids?
[20:28] <neeteex> mbrigdan: I don't realy know, but i could cope without flash for a start. How to cut that ?
[20:28] <dan-ubuntu> hey all, does anyone here know how to fix the line in mic problem on macbooks?
[20:28] <dirty> lstarnes: If you whois me right now, you'll see my ident response is set to kuipers right now. I want to change it to say t
[20:29] <lstarnes> dirty: you appear to be connected without an identd
[20:29] <lstarnes> dirty: or at least no valid response.  Try changing the username setting in your client
[20:29] <vixus> Ok, so I got nvidia working under the realtime kernel.. Following further instructions I tried enabling the new drivers for the generic kernel. It all seemed to go fine but on reboot of course it didn't work. Xorg.log gives no reason for why the nvidia module fails to load.
[20:29] <roy_hobbs> Maybe (definitely) I'm missing something, but I've installed skype and I see nowhere to initiate a video chat with my contacts...
[20:30] <crdlb> Unggnu: it should work, but if it doesn't, you can always just turn ssid hiding off ...
[20:30] <ryanCH> how do update KDE 4.1 to 4.2?
[20:30] <Unggnu> crdlb: It has nothing to do with security, just privacy :)
[20:30] <vixus> So basically.. I have no idea why the nvidia drivers aren't working
[20:30] <Unggnu> crdlb: thanks anyway
[20:30] <crdlb> Unggnu: privacy?
[20:30] <eqisow1> ryanCH: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[20:31] <Unggnu> crdlb: That a non computer expert can see when it is on and when it is not
[20:31] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: mine does yes, thats the network manager app not the chip's job
[20:31] <Marfi> Is there a way to use plasmoids in gnome?
[20:31] <HammerHead66> ﻿dirty: do you know how to do that?
[20:31] <Unggnu> ActionParsnip1: NM coudn't handle it with Ndiswrapper
[20:31] <crdlb> Unggnu: you don't leave your router on all the time?
[20:31] <Unggnu> but with Intel
[20:31] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Well, if you aren't running a flash app, that probably isn't your problem.
[20:31] <Unggnu> crdlb: right
[20:32] <brucealdridge> when I type an a, d,g, j,m,p,t,w,. in terminal I get an underline, pressing multiple times I get the next letter like cellphone input...
[20:32]  * crdlb wonders why someone would do that
[20:32] <eqisow1> Marfi: gdesklets is the gnome equivalent
[20:32] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Does firefox tend to freeze up?
[20:32] <Unggnu> thanks for help, ciao
[20:32] <Marfi> eqisow1: ty
[20:32] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Like, go a darkened often?
[20:32] <ruiserra> firewire camera problem console -> ""icvRetrieveFrame convert RGB to BGR""
[20:32] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: then you need a supported chip. http://efficientpc.co.uk/accessories/wireless/wg311t/  thats mine and it works out of the box since gutsy
[20:32] <neeteex> mbrigdan: yes it does freeze, but not only firefox : it might be more general
[20:33] <neeteex> mbrigdan: not realy darkened, only taking a while to react to commands (click, keyboard...)
[20:34] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Does htop/whatever report that firefox is using 100/99/etc CPU, or does it just report maxed cpu usage?
[20:34] <ludri> Hi, is it possible to save bootable usb stick contents into file (iso or similar), and later burn that back?
[20:34] <vixus> Ok, I'm probably missing a linux-restricted-modules package matching the current kernel...
[20:35] <neeteex> mbrigdan: it says cpu goes from 1 to 90%, so it often overcome with other apps
[20:35] <ganymede> hello, does the ubuntu 8.10 livecd have enough tools to act as a rescue disk for a windows machine that won't boot for a "disk read error"? (e.g. does it have ssh server, fdisk, smartctl, ability to mount ntfs, and ability to boot into a bash shell rather than a full blown X session?)
[20:35] <xnmrph> Hi. I have a problem with an external USB hard disk that is formatted for FAT32. When I rsync to it, I seem to get a duplication problem with lower/upper case filenames. I've read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-137159.html but I wonder if there is a way to prevent this for any USB device that is automounted that happens to be formatted for FAT32?
[20:35] <neeteex> mbrigdan: 96% on last peak !
[20:36] <HammerHead66> ﻿dirty: were u able to change it in ur client?
[20:36] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Ok, next time firefox peaks in its usage, run strace -pXXX > straceout.log (Replace XXX with the pid of firefox)
[20:37] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Then, look around in that log file to see if anything obvious is happening.
[20:37] <mbrigdan> neeteex: One other thing: Do you have beagle installed?
[20:38] <neeteex> mbrigdan: I don't know, never heard of beagle
[20:38] <Don_Miguel> HammerHead66, I think dirty left us ...
[20:38] <HammerHead66> i think so too
[20:39] <mbrigdan> neeteex: try sudo apt-get remove beagle  Beagle often caused problems with high CPU usage for me\
[20:39] <HammerHead66> he /she just might need to kool off
[20:39] <mbrigdan> neeteex: I have to leave now, but keep asking around, the community is very helpful
[20:40] <hugodor> anyone know how to find CONFIG_NETDEVICES_MULTIQUEUE in the kernel config?  I can't find it
[20:42] <hugodor> anyone know how to find CONFIG_NETDEVICES_MULTIQUEUE in the kernel config?  I can't find it
[20:42] <Flannel> !repeat | hugodor
[20:44] <Kitkat> guys, since the last couple of days my ubutnu Dell XPS laptop frequently restarting. It doesnt crash or anything... just restarts. Any idea what could be the problem? This doesnt seem to happen on windows. I am not looking for theories, but how do I begin diagonisng this problem?
[20:44] <Nasso> does anyone know if ubuntu has support for more than 2 computerscreens?
[20:44] <xB4s1Cx> it does
[20:44] <elfranger> if a SD card will be mounted as RO in uuntu, will I maybe be able to access it through Wine?
[20:45] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, how? with multiple graphicscards?
[20:45] <eqisow1> Kitkat /var/log is always a good place to start
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Kitkat:  pre intalled Ubuntu Dell yeah?  it's still under warranty?
[20:45] <xB4s1Cx> yes, and the right drivers
[20:45] <Kitkat> Not a preinstall Dell
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Kitkat: the computer shoudn't  just restart
[20:45] <Kitkat> eqiso1, what do I look at?
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Kitkat: sounds like a hardware issue
[20:45] <Kitkat> I looked at the kernel log, but not sure what I should be looking at.
[20:46] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, okay. the official nvidia or ati drivers, i guess?
[20:46] <xB4s1Cx> yes
[20:46] <xB4s1Cx> goodluck
[20:46] <eqisow1> Kitkat: daemon.log, dmesg, kern.log, and syslog are good places to start. but seb is right, could be hardware
[20:46] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, goodluck? is it hard to get it working?
[20:46] <Kitkat> eqisow: What should I look at ?
[20:47] <eqisow1> kitkat: see above, and pastebin them if you like
[20:47] <danzat> Can anyone help me with pulseaudio, I think it hates me
[20:48] <xB4s1Cx> Nasso, yeah, driver installation is not easy on linux
[20:48] <militant> hi guys.  i'm trying to install ubuntu from a usb stick.  i used unetbootin to make the stick from the 8.10 desktop iso, no errors reported.  now when i try to boot from the stick to install, it gets past the splash screen then sits on a black screen forever
[20:48] <josh-l> hey all, what package do i install for an mpeg-4 encoder?
[20:48] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, installing the standard nvidia drivers is automatic in ubuntu?
[20:49] <militant> i tried an OEM install and the help option too, both dumped me to busybox saying it gave up waiting for root device?
[20:49] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, just check the crossbox in restricted drivers?
[20:49] <eqisow1> josh-l: mencoder, ffmpeg, mplayer. take your pick. are you looking for a front-end app?
[20:49] <xB4s1Cx> Nasso, but it may not be the newest
[20:49] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, do i need the newest?
[20:49] <josh-l> eqisow1: no backend
[20:49] <xB4s1Cx> Nasso, yeah, they work the best
[20:49] <gkey> I just lost my NM-APPLET from the panel (it's still working, but not visible). How do I get it back?
[20:50] <elfranger> whats the command to see what is happening when I insert my SD card?
[20:50] <eqisow1> Nasso: use the restricted drivere checkbox, installing the driveres from nvidia is not recomended. It will break when your kernel updates
[20:50] <maddwesty> why cant i install my raedon driver when it says this driver is not activated
[20:50] <Nasso> eqisow1, ok. thanks
[20:50] <eqisow1> josh-l: then mencoder should work fine
[20:51] <Nasso> can i configura 4 monitors on 2 graficscards with the nvidia control panel or do i need to hack xorg.conf ?
[20:51] <josh-l> thanks
[20:51] <eqisow1> Nasso: It *should* autocifngiure when you restart X, but if it doesn't we can tackle it
[20:52] <Nasso> eqisow1, i havnt bought the gfx-cards yet :)
[20:52] <cr4z3d> hey how can i add ext4 support to 8.04? i have a SD card using it
[20:52] <Nasso> is nvidia or ati recommended for multiple screens? what drivers are best and most stable for this?
[20:52] <eqisow1> Nasso: gotcha. well it *shouldn't* require X hacking.. no promises though. I've never done it with 4, only 2
[20:52] <danzat> I want to enable ASLA again, but I can't seem to be able to do it
[20:52] <HammerHead66> ﻿danzat: has someone helped you yet?
[20:53] <maddwesty> how do i get my ati/amd proprietary card to activate?
[20:53] <neeteex> mbrigdan: sorry for disconnection : my pc crushed while under strace command (did'nt find how to stop it !)
[20:53] <fosco__> Nasso: is not easy, you'd better use a jaunty liveCD to access your SD card
[20:53] <ActionParsnip1> Nasso: both are fine, users will somply advise what they prefer, there is no best. there is no best ANYTHING in life
[20:53] <eqisow1> Nasso: AMD is working hard on getting ATI drivers up to par, but it's a work in progress, so for now probably nvidia unless you're getting a pair of slightly older cards
[20:53] <fosco__> !ati | maddwesty
[20:53] <eqisow1> Action: there are very real driver differences, unfortunately
[20:53] <HammerHead66> ﻿danzat: /system/prefs'/sound and change there
[20:54] <ActionParsnip1> eqisow1: inded but one is not better than the other
[20:54] <zelda_> Does anyone know if the HVR-1800 has full linux support?
[20:54] <maddwesty> thanks you
[20:54] <timbooka> how do i make AWN run on startup?????
[20:54] <fosco__> Nasso: sorry, that was not for you
[20:54] <ActionParsnip1> !startup
[20:54] <cr4z3d> timbooka: check your sessions settings
[20:54] <eqisow1> ActionParsnip1: try getting 3D acceleration on my ATU card then say that
[20:54] <fosco__> cr4z3d:  is not easy, you'd better use a jaunty liveCD to access your SD card
[20:54] <arp13> timbooka, system-pref-sessions add it there
[20:54] <ActionParsnip1> eqisow1: thats one ati card out of the whole range
[20:54] <arp13> timbooka, if you're at gnome env-nt
[20:54] <ActionParsnip1> eqisow1: some ati cards are fine
[20:54] <Nasso> does sli or crossfire work in linux?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip1> eqisow1: hence me saying neither is better
[20:55] <cr4z3d> fosco__: ah.. sucks. but thank you i'll have to get that working
[20:55] <ActionParsnip1> Nasso: sli is as far as i know
[20:55] <Nasso> ActionParsnip1, not crossfire?
[20:55] <Knight`> I wanted to knowdoes formating the hard drive have an account on its life span?
[20:55] <Knight`> is there a such thing as "formatting it too much"
[20:55] <eqisow1> Action: their drivers are broken on all 64 bit systems without lib32 (done arguing now, we're way offtopic :p)
[20:55] <ActionParsnip1> Nasso: i dont know, i dont use ati cards on principal
[20:56] <arp13> ActionParsnip1, me too, their drivers are too bad :-(
[20:56] <eqisow1> Nasso: SLI and crossfire both work
[20:56] <Knight`> I wanted to know does formating the hard drive have an account on its life span?*
[20:56] <eqisow1> KnightL no
[20:56] <arp13> Knight`, nope
[20:56] <ActionParsnip1> eqisow1: lil bit, there is still no best, best is an opinion of a product on own requirements. I find the word best really immature
[20:56] <unko> HammerHead66, hey i found out what the problem was hahah!Q!
[20:56]  * arp13 is using x3100 now and pretty happy :D
[20:57] <HammerHead66> ﻿unko: what was it?
[20:57] <pvtpete> hi there
[20:57] <gkey> bump: I just lost my network manager APPLET from the panel (it's still working, but not visible). How do I get it back?
[20:57] <pvtpete> my fcsk file has been wiped
[20:57] <pvtpete> what should a normal one look like ?
[20:57] <pvtpete> please
[20:58] <arp13> gkey, ee click on panel -> add -> networking bla bla
[20:58] <HammerHead66> ﻿unko: what was it?
[20:58] <unko> HammerHead66, your gonna laugh haha... i have a usb hub and it's like glued uner my desk..and i use virtual box... so i pluged in a usb stick too it and i forgot to take it out and by default my computer boots from usb devs than the main hdd. so basicaly i forgot i had it in!
[20:58] <HammerHead66> lmao
[20:59] <gkey> arp13 - that seems to bring up a different applet
[20:59] <demon> i have problems with my 8.10 it cant find my webcam
[20:59] <snooser> Hi there. I installed ubuntu by using wubi. My wireless network works, detects my network but i cant access the internet. any help?
[20:59] <HammerHead66> well you found it
[20:59] <unko> yeps
[20:59] <unko> thanks for trying to help though haha
[20:59] <ryanakca> Why does my wirless often bog down to nothing / link quality drop down to 0? I'me no more than 15ft away from the router... ath5k
[20:59] <arp13> gkey, hmm I think there is only one applet for networking, the default one
[20:59] <HammerHead66> np
[21:00] <ActionParsnip1> ryanakca: do you have the latest driver and full updates
[21:01] <gkey> arp14 - that's what i thought. But the one listed on the applet list is Network-monitor, not networkmanager-applet or nm-applet
[21:01] <user___> hugodor: which architecture are you trying to compile for?
[21:01] <snooser> Hi there. I installed ubuntu by using wubi. My wireless network works, detects my network but i cant access the internet. any help?
[21:01] <lagann_> gkey, use ALT+F2 and type: nm-applet --sm-disable
[21:02] <arp13> gkey, aaa, I see. it's stoped. do sudo /etc/init.d/netwo ..bla-bla restart
[21:02] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: can you ping sites by name as well as ip
[21:02] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: you may be getting dns failure
[21:02] <arp13> gkey, complete netw... with tabs, of course
[21:03] <arp13> *stopped
[21:03] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: then you need to ad d some public ips as dns in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:03] <snooser> ActionParsnip1, i've tryed to ping google.com and i couldnt
[21:03] <demon> i have problems with my 8.10 it cant find my webcam
[21:03] <snooser> ActionParsnip1 can you help me with that?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: can you ping 209.85.229.147  ?
[21:03] <snooser> ActionParsnip1 i'm not at my linux system.
[21:04] <snooser> ActionParsnip1 i cant ping anything besides my own network
[21:04] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: if you can ping the ip but not name, dns is failing
[21:04] <floryn90> hello
[21:04] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: then i would reboot your router
[21:04] <snooser> ActionParsnip1 no, not a router problem.
[21:04] <anabolix> anyone know why i cant detect my bluetooth headphones? i used "hcitool scan" and it doesnt appear. im using sony bluetooth headset that came with my sony mp4 player, which has no problems pairing with the headset
[21:05] <gkey> arp13 - tx - lifesaver!
[21:05] <militant> anyone have a theory on why the ubuntu installer fails at 'waiting for root device' ... i've installed 8.10 on this machine just a few days ago and it was fine.
[21:05] <arp13> gkey, np :D
[21:05] <eqisow1> militant: test your hard drive? does windows work fine from it, if installed?
[21:06] <rockchickz> Q: is there a ubuntu version which runs on 192mb ram?
[21:06] <user___> hugodor: which architecture are you trying to compile for?
[21:06] <militant> eqisow1 it was running and rebooting thru ubuntu just fine a few hours ago.  nothing's been changed except i am trying to install fresh (really hosed some things)
[21:06] <tauren> is there a way to safely shut down if I just have a blank desktop screen?  something like ctrl-alt-del task manager in windows?
[21:06] <HammerHead66> 32bit
[21:06] <snooser> Hi there. I installed ubuntu by using wubi. My wireless network works, detects my network but i cant access the internet. any help?
[21:06] <HammerHead66> ﻿rockchickz: 32 bit ubuntu does
[21:07] <eqisow1> militant: if you didn't format, or perhaps didn't re-install grub, your fstab could be messed up
[21:07] <rockchickz> HammerHead66: ah, i tried using the wubi and it failed on launch stating 256mb needed. is that just for the win32 installer?
[21:07] <militant> eqisow1   there shouldn't be an fstab.  i'm trying to run a clean install from a usb stick
[21:07] <brous> snooser-> post your  ifconfig; iwconfig; sudo lshw -C network; route -n; cat /etc/resolv.conf
[21:07] <Flannel> tauren: Well, if you can get to a TTY (ctrl-alt-f1) you can shut down there (sudo shutdown now)
[21:07] <floryn90> !hello
[21:07] <HammerHead66> ﻿rockchickz: i am unsure
[21:08] <eqisow1> militant: ahh, I see. and you've been able to run from USB before?
[21:08] <tauren> Flannel: thanks!  i think that will work
[21:08] <Flannel> tauren: If you can't do that, you can use reisub (well, that'll reboot, to turn off, reisuo)
[21:08] <Flannel> !reisub | tauren
[21:08] <mapreduce> Hello.  I have Ubuntu installing in a virtualbox, and "Select and install software" seems to have frozen at 18%.
[21:08] <tauren> Flannel:  Use reisub?  what's that?
[21:08] <snooser> brous, thanks. gonna try that
[21:08] <mapreduce> Is there a way of seeing whether it really has frozen?  It did the same at 6% for a while, but this is a lot longer.
[21:08] <militant> eqisow1   yes the original install was from usb stick.  since then the stick has had its partition rebuilt and the contents formatted (vfat) and unetbootin used to make an install stick from a fresh copy of the 8.10 desktop iso
[21:09] <Flannel> tauren: Read the thing ubottu sent you
[21:09] <tauren> Flannel:  ah, just saw it.  thanks.  And thanks ubottu!
[21:09] <user___> mapreduce: how long did you have to wait for the system to continue at 6%
[21:10] <mapreduce> About 10 minutes I think.
[21:10] <mapreduce> And it's been at 18% for the best part of an hour now.
[21:10] <mapreduce> If I abort and just reboot, will I have something usable installed to disk?
[21:10] <arussel> I am on amd64. Is there a package that would install sun 32 bits, including the tools.jar in lib (ie, a full jdk and not just a jre) ?
[21:11] <user___> mapreduce: ok, try switching to a console (no, nothing usable..)
[21:11] <M4d3L> I have a char encoding problem. all file I try to open in text editor writed on windows before and content accent like é
[21:11] <mapreduce> user___: Yes, I've already done that, via Alt-F2.
[21:11] <user___> mapreduce: a console inside the guest
[21:11] <M4d3L> à etc... are ������
[21:11] <user___> mapreduce: that could be the console of your host
[21:11] <Lvl21nerd> hey i have a quick question
[21:11] <mapreduce> I've had a look what commands are there but not noticed anything I can do from there.
[21:12] <mapreduce> top isn't present, for example.
[21:12] <eqisow1> militant: the persistent USB install is getting outside my area of experience, I'm afraid. hopefully somebody else can help you here
[21:12] <ryanakca> ActionParsnip1: Yes, it's built into the kernel. (Well, as a module)
[21:12] <Lvl21nerd> i use ubuntu and just recently installed xfce and when i use xfce, my other two hard drives are not detected though they are in vanilla ubuntu
[21:12] <militant> i was able to do the net install just fine, btw, but it was stalling out on retrieving packages
[21:12] <user___> mapreduce: there must be some sort of log file: ls -lt lists newest files on top
[21:12] <militant> somehow the livecd installer dies on waiting for root device.  weird
[21:12] <mapreduce> user___: As the host is Vista, it isn't going to have consoles.  Or perhaps I misunderstood you.
[21:13] <Lvl21nerd> how can i remedy that
[21:13] <user___> mapreduce: i meant console in the guest. the gui or text installer is occupying just one console. the others *could* be active
[21:13] <Flannel> Lvl21nerd: you'll have to manually mount them
[21:13] <Cheery> hi, has anyone been trying chromium/chrome lately?
[21:14] <Lvl21nerd> how do i do that?
[21:14] <mapreduce> user___: alt-f2 shows another console, which I can activate.  Do you mean that?
[21:14] <Flannel> !fstab | Lvl21nerd
[21:14] <mapreduce> same for alt-f3 etc.
[21:14] <FrozenFire[work]> Hello everyone. Is there a way to enable restricted hardware drivers from the command-line? The Hardware Drivers GUI applet is hanging at the download dialogue.
[21:14] <Lvl21nerd> thank you
[21:14] <cipherZen> Cheery: I have, fast as hell, just as unstable
[21:14] <mapreduce>  /var/log/syslog says "Some program may be trying to access hardware directly" but that could be from a while ago.
[21:15] <monkey_d_luffy> I'm trying to check/test a bunch of 7z files, but I don't understand the manual.  It supposedely allows reading a list of filenames from a file, but I don't understand... does anyone with 7zip installed knows how to do it?
[21:15] <crdlb> FrozenFire[work]: there is no cli-only frontend for jockey, but depending on the driver, you can do it manually
[21:15] <Cheery> anyone proposed ubuntu to move their interest from firefox to chromium?
[21:15] <mapreduce> Ah, no, it's periodic, and still happens.
[21:15] <HammerHead66> ﻿FrozenFire[work]: yes
[21:15] <user___> mapreduce: yes, activate and check all consoles. maybe one is "scolling" whats being done (debian has it that way)
[21:15] <HammerHead66> save drive to Desktop
[21:15] <Cheery> cipherZen: yeah, and it's damn incredible, firefox can never provide that same experience
[21:16] <HammerHead66> drivers*
[21:16] <Cheery> after it's complete, it'll be the best browser for linux
[21:16] <HammerHead66> ﻿FrozenFire[work]: then open terminal
[21:16] <FrozenFire[work]> HammerHead66: Yeah, I thought of that, but I'd rather use the one from the Ubuntu repository
[21:16] <mapreduce> user___: Ok, Alt-f4 shows a running log; the last thing was "setting up dash", followed by lots of copies of the above message.
[21:16] <HammerHead66> ﻿FrozenFire[work]: cd Desktop
[21:16] <cipherZen> true that. they really do need to work out some of the bugs though, their bug reporting site even makes it crash on my box :P
[21:16] <FrozenFire[work]> This system is going to be used by someone technically illiterate, so it needs to automatically update itself.
[21:16] <HammerHead66> ﻿FrozenFire[work]: dir
[21:17] <mapreduce> Each preceded by Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0
[21:17] <FrozenFire[work]> HammerHead66: Yes, I know all of that. Thanks anyways.
[21:17] <HammerHead66> ﻿FrozenFire[work]: ok
[21:17] <shane> ff
[21:17] <shane> sorry
[21:18] <mapreduce> I'll give up, reboot and install it again, but with nothing about bare minimum software.
[21:18] <Gnea> Cheery: is it possible to get chrome for linux yet?
[21:18] <user___> mapreduce: hmm i'd put it down for later reference and restart the install
[21:18] <Cheery> Gnea: not really, I've tried one very early alpha release
[21:18] <mapreduce> user___: Ok, thanks.
[21:18] <Cheery> but it'll be available
[21:18] <user___> mapreduce: good luck
[21:18] <Cheery> and it's open source (some sort of)
[21:18] <Gnea> Cheery: yeah, it seems more windows-based. lame.
[21:19] <eqisow1> Gnea: It's released as Chromium in Linux, no branding atm iirc. I think they make Ubuntu packages, though
[21:19] <Cheery> you can try it too, but I think it's not usable yet
[21:20] <HammerHead66> ﻿Gnea: go to add/remove programs in search put chrome. make sure the show is on All available apps
[21:20] <eqisow1> Gnea: I hear it works OK in Wine too, but I haven't tried it
[21:20] <Cheery> much of UI is not working yet, there's no tabs and it tends to crash on unimplemented routines
[21:20] <_dbd_l12> Gnea: this is the closest you get atm (wine-based) i think: http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ports/chromium/
[21:20] <cipherZen> eqisow1: it was working in wine, sort of, but it broke with the latest update to wine
[21:20] <sebsebseb> Gnea: you can run a native development version of what will become Chrome for Linux
[21:20] <Cheery> but damn it's still awesome
[21:21] <Cheery> and I think shuttleworth should push money on it instead of firefox
[21:21] <snooser> hello there again. still with the same problem
[21:21] <cipherZen> Gnea: word of warning about the dev version for linux, you can use it, but its really unstable
[21:21] <magnetron> Cheery→ excuse me, who is pushing money on firefox?
[21:21] <eqisow1> what's up, snooser?
[21:21] <Gnea> hrm
[21:21] <snooser> eqisow1, i cant access my wireless network, but i have no internet
[21:21] <Cheery> magnetron: development efforts
[21:22] <eqisow1> offtopic: I want a decent KDE browser :/
[21:22] <Cheery> magnetron: ubuntu supports firefox right now
[21:22] <sebsebseb> _dbd_l12: running WIndows browsers in Wine without changing their  user agent string to mention Linux, will then be contributing to WIndows browser market  share, and that's not a good thing
[21:22] <sebsebseb> eqisow1: Konqueror
[21:23] <magnetron> Cheery→ canonical supports all the software in ubuntu, for a fee. the customers are pushing money on canonical, none of this ever reaches mozilla foundation
[21:23] <duffy> is FF so bad you have to use WINE and a windows browser?
[21:23] <militant> see.  that is so odd.  the livecd version of the usb stick installer hangs on waiting for root device.  but the netinstall version goes thru perfect
[21:23] <eqisow1> sebsebseb: I wish. mostly render problems for me, though, the interface is decent
[21:23] <Gnea> I highly doubt that chrome is going to break any real new ground. firefox was supposed to have done that, and yet it still runs slow-as-snot on a 1.7ghz/512Mb system
[21:23] <Hfuy> Where does ubuntu keep its fonts?
[21:23] <snooser> eqisow1, any help?
[21:23] <eqisow1> snooser: You're in Wubi, right? What have you tried?
[21:23] <duffy> I love FF, its fast, its addons enhance it like no other, and as such, no other comes close
[21:24] <infiter789> anyone knows a book for shell and shell scripting?
[21:24] <sebsebseb> duffy: well how about  Seamonkey?
[21:24] <magnetron> infiter789→ there's a book on wikibooks. try it
[21:24] <duffy> what about it..  It aint broke so no need to fix it
[21:24] <snooser> eqisow1 yes, i used wubi.
[21:24] <Cheery> Gnea: firefox broke real new ground, or if you noticed it?
[21:24] <infiter789> magnetron: wikibooks'
[21:24] <Cheery> it has 27% market share
[21:24] <_dbd_l12> Hfuy: ~/.fonts and /usr/share/fonts iirc
[21:24] <magnetron> infiter789→ wikibooks.
[21:25] <Cheery> and it's an alternative for IE8&crappies
[21:25] <sebsebseb> duffy: you can do add ons for Seamonkey etc.    and I hope you know about the link between Seamonkey and Firefox
[21:25] <infiter789> magnetron: ok, thanks, I will search for it
[21:25] <Gnea> duffy: i had to ditch gnome for E17 in order to get FF to gain any semblence of rational running... even still, it needs to be restarded now and then
[21:25] <spamjam> does anybody know how to get rid of the shadow underneath the top panel in gnome?
[21:25] <MexTuX> Does anybody know what does mean the "%U" at the end of the command in the main menu entries??
[21:25] <Cheery> firefox's goals weren't speed or performance :)
[21:25] <Gnea> Cheery: of course it did, I'm just saying that I'm not expecting a whole lot out of chrome
[21:25] <Cheery> or convenience
[21:25] <Cheery> chrome provides those
[21:25] <eqisow1> Cheery: it was, originally. it was supposed to be the lean and mean rebirth of mozilla
[21:26] <duffy> ive customised it a little tho, removed nav bar, put icons and url/search bars next to the File/Edit etc menus, so save real estate..  and used freesans for fonts.. much better than defaults
[21:26] <Cheery> Gnea: try it on windows sometime near and see it yourself
[21:26] <Cheery> try run javascript heavy web-apps on it
[21:26] <Gnea> Cheery: I will
[21:26] <sebsebseb> eqisow1: rebirth????   Mozilla Suite with some good marketting could have hit off nicely,  but nope that died and Firefox and Thunderbird live on, and those that liked the Mozilla Suite,  can have Seamonkey
[21:27] <duffy> i dont see why people have a problem , i dont..
[21:27] <marctw> i have install ubuntu,but the wireless doesn't work
[21:27] <marctw> what can I do?
[21:27] <duffy> it dont crash, its not slow..
[21:27] <kklimonda> any pulseaudio master present? ;)
[21:27] <The_Drizzle> \join #lunar
[21:27] <sebsebseb> marctw: damn wireless issues, very common,  because of stupid wireless manufactures that do not suppourt  Desktop Linux yet
[21:27] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[21:28] <magnetron> just ask your questions to the channel please kklimonda
[21:28] <carl_> sighhhhhhhh
[21:28] <sebsebseb> marctw: you need to be specific about what device you have and all that, or people can't really help you
[21:28] <Gnea> !pulseaudio
[21:28] <slide> I have windows, ubuntu and OSX installed and grub bootloader, somehow it got set to automatically boot into the last booted OS w/out any prompt. I can't for some reason boot into the LiveCD to mount the ubuntu disk and fix the grub settings, how can I boot into windows (instead of osx as its currently set)
[21:29] <slide> or even boot into ubuntu
[21:29] <slide> it just auto boots into OSX (which is giving me problems booting right now)
[21:29] <daftykins> press escape when it does the seconds timeout
[21:29] <daftykins> and manually choose another
[21:29] <slide> daftykins, there is no seconds timeout
[21:30] <daftykins> oh dear.
[21:30] <jrib> slide: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst from os x
[21:30] <_dbd_l12> slide: boot off a live disc (ubuntu, knoppix, any will do) or usb and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:30] <slide> jrib, i cant get into osx
[21:30] <slide> _dbd_l12, the livecd wont boot
[21:30] <jrib> slide: what are you in?
[21:30] <slide> lol
[21:30] <slide> im on my laptop
[21:30] <kristian_> neither brasero/k3b will burn/verify correctly for me! can someone suggest some other program? i liked linux until now. :-P
[21:30] <jrib> slide: no working OS?
[21:30] <slide> windows and linux work, but i cant boot into them
[21:30] <daftykins> kristian_, just don't verify :P
[21:31] <jrib> slide: either get it to boot from the cd or remove the hard drive and mount it on another pc
[21:31] <trinidadflores> i have a question
[21:31] <slide> ok
[21:31] <datta> how do i convert .dat file in linux?
[21:31] <eqisow1> kristian: what, exactly, is the problem? most burning apps use the sam ebackend, so switching isn't likely to help
[21:31] <jrib> slide: or fix os x...
[21:31] <kristian_> daftykins : how come no linux dvd burner program can properly verify! it's the simplest task ever. :-P
[21:31] <datta> it is a riff audio file
[21:31] <kklimonda> Gnea: it doesn't really help me - i still can't get my microphone to work ;)
[21:31] <daftykins> kristian_, people probably use MD5'ing etc instead
[21:32] <Gnea> kklimonda: why didn't you say that your microphone was the problem in the first place? ;)
[21:32] <kklimonda> Gnea: well.. because it's pulseaudio's fault ;)
[21:32] <_dbd_l12> datta: maybe sox can do that for you
[21:32] <kklimonda> i've fixed it once already..
[21:32] <Brodey> I'm having trouble connecting with my wireless router :|
[21:32] <kklimonda> Gnea: but i had to sacrifice black goat..
[21:33] <trinidadflores> i know that ther eare drivers for windows so that you can access your ext3 partition i have tried fs-driver and diskinternals linux reader and they dont work with my version of windows (vista business) help
[21:33] <datta> i do not get it how do u actually convert it with that
[21:33] <datta> can u covert it with the terminal
[21:34] <carl_> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[21:34] <user___> trinidadflores: please also ask in #windows
[21:34] <Gnea> kklimonda: well, that's not good enough. you need to cut the crap and get straight down to it in order to get any help around here. :) is your mic turned on in the alsamixer?
[21:34] <_dbd_l12> datta: yes, sox is a command line tool (you need to install it first: sudo apt-get install sox)
[21:34] <Stepan1> Can anyone guide me though setting up samba so Windows can print to Ubuntu printer.  Computers are not on the same network.  None of the wiki's and howtos are helping.
[21:35] <user___> !samba > Stepan1
[21:35] <Axis> Hello
[21:35] <kristian_> eqisow1 : from scratch... i was going to burn a data dvd today, so i tried out the default burner in ubuntu, brasero. started burning, but when it was done burning, it ejected the tray and verifying failed. later i learnt that it tried to eject tray, then mount it again, to get ride of cache. since im on a laptop, i dont have a motorized tray, so it cant be called back software wise. thats why it failed. so i try pushing the tray in manual
[21:35] <trinidadflores> They dont know shit in that channel thats why i am asking in this one
[21:35] <Axis> Anyone fairly knowledgable about AWN?
[21:35] <kristian_> daftykins : yes, but any dvd burner should be able to verify, thats my point. :-/
[21:36] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_: i posted how to fix this problem on that bug ticket
[21:36] <sebsebseb> Axis: no and Cairo dock is meant to be better
[21:36] <Gnea> trinidadflores: please watch your language. also, we only support ubuntu in here, so if it's not ubuntu, we don't do it. you might find better help in #linux or #windows
[21:36] <Axis> Are you suggesting that I use Cairo instead?
[21:37] <kristian_> HammerHead66: can you please post a link again. :-) anyways ive tried many things so far. :-/ im about to give up! :-O
[21:37] <Stepan1> user___: As I said, none of those links help me.  Most important factor, these printers are not connected to the same connection/network/router
[21:37] <sebsebseb> Axis: yes, but I haven't used it myself yet
[21:37] <trinidadflores> i am in both and there is no one talking in the #windows i have been in there all day!!
[21:37] <Axis> Haha, so how can you suggest something you have never used? :P
[21:37] <sebsebseb> trinidadflores: Windows is for  idiots!
[21:37] <wrektjet> hey... im tryiong to set up a static IP using the network manager. the settings r correct, i believe, but the "OK" button never becomes active, allowing me to save the new connection. any ideas?
[21:37] <sebsebseb> Axis: ,because I have read about it, plus had contact with people that have used it
[21:38] <shane> hey yall whats the command to see what wireless drivers are in use
[21:38] <trinidadflores> the only reason why i still have windows is because of my drafting software
[21:38] <trinidadflores> need the 3d rendering
[21:38] <sebsebseb> trinidadflores: oh
[21:38] <wrektjet> to clarify: a wired conex; under the IPv$ settings, Manaul
[21:38] <Axis> Ah, I fixed my problem anyways, but I will still look into Cairo
[21:38] <sebsebseb> trinidadflores: yeah for 2D stuff a vm
[21:39] <kklimonda> Gnea: well, mic works now but i get horrible quality in empathy ;)
[21:39] <carl_> i need help g4 12 inch power book   installed  ubuntu intrepid  cpu runs at 100% all the time memory stays  at  277 out of 754  how do i fix
[21:39] <HammerHead66>  ﻿kristian_:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/72609
[21:39] <user___> Stepan1: i feel you need to explore more and post a concrete error message, people here can help you better then
[21:39] <sebsebseb> Axis: ok sure, Linux Distros are about choice, unlike Windows,  these things are also not  meant to be seen as some free as in price version of Windows.   or a free  as in price of OS X.
[21:40] <sebsebseb> Axis: this stuff is about free as in freedom, know what I mean?
[21:40] <wrektjet> freeeeeeeeeeeedom.
[21:40] <sebsebseb> !freedom
[21:40] <Axis> sebsebseb: I very much know what you mean
[21:40] <daas> Check out this linux girl :) : http://www.SweetSarah.fr/?id=110122
[21:40] <wrektjet> but seriously, any info on making static ip
[21:40] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_: make sure you bookmark it ok
[21:40] <bolt> trying to boot from the install cd on a pentium 4 with a radeon 9800 graphics card, both in safe graphics mode and normal install and the livecd mode, i get the X mouse pointer on a black screen, the keyboard lights start blinking and nothing more happens. the mouse can't be moved and the keyboard doesn't work after this point. what's up with that?
[21:40] <Axis> I know plenty about free software and GNU and what not
[21:40] <sebsebseb> Axis: well you didn't seem newbie, but a lof the newbies that come here have no idea
[21:41] <Axis> I understand :)
[21:41] <carl_> is newbie that just asked question
[21:41] <sebsebseb> carl_: did you just call me a newbie?  :D
[21:41] <Axis> I've been using ubuntu since 6.04 so I know a little about linux. Not nearly as much as I would like to however.
[21:41] <carl_> no  i am newbie
[21:42] <kristian_> HammerHead66 : yes, i tried that. and then it would burn and verify without ejecting disc. it worked for the first disc i was going to burn, but then when i tried 2,3,4,5 then it failed at verifying and k3b actually crashed. :-/
[21:42] <carl_> and i asked a question
[21:42] <Surlent777> Hopefully, a simple question: I have a desktop, and I have a laptop. Both are hooked into a router. How do I get them properly networked (ie able to be viewed in Nautilus/Konqueror)? The desktop is 810, the laptop 8.04
[21:42] <slide> Ok, so I've got my harddrive connected to my laptop via usb, how can I reinstall grub onto it?
[21:42] <sebsebseb> Axis: I been with Ubuntu since the second release in 2005, with Fedora Core 2 and 4 in 2004.   So I know stuff, but  still quite a bit I don't know yet.
[21:42] <Surlent777> 8.10*
[21:42] <carl_> be back dog wants to potty
[21:42] <jrib> slide: you don't need to reinstall it, just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:43] <sebsebseb> !scp |  Surlent777
[21:43] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_:  that's because it doesn't clear out the cashe. you need to only do one at a time.
[21:43] <Axis> Surlent777: Did you enable sharing in the folder properties?
[21:43] <slide> jrib, actually, i think i may need to somehow osx installed its boot manager again? im not sure how
[21:43] <Surlent777> Axis: Yes, I made this work with my laptop and Windows at one point, with a cross-over cable
[21:44] <linuxonmac> slide: what are you trying to do?
[21:44] <kristian_> HammerHead66 : yes, i did one, then i closed k3b, and reopened it. wont that work?
[21:44] <Axis> Surlent777: What cables do you have running to your router now? Staight-through right?
[21:44] <Surlent777> sebsebseb: I am actually trying to set up ssh as we speak, and failing
[21:44] <HammerHead66>  ﻿kristian_:  but you know that's ok because the software is setup to not clear it. they have made sure there are no problems in doing so.
[21:44] <sebsebseb> !ssh |  Surlent777
[21:44] <slide> linuxonmac, grub got replaced by osx bootloader on my desktop and the osx install is messed up. I have the HD mounted onto my laptop
[21:45] <linuxonmac> slide: If your using a mac you want to use rEFIt
[21:45] <slide> i need to get grub reinstalled onto it
[21:45] <slide> im in ubuntu right now
[21:45] <slide> on my laptop
[21:45] <sebsebseb> !grub |  slide
[21:45] <Surlent777> Axis: It goes Desktop > router > modem, and the laptop is using a wireless card to get to the router
[21:45] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_:it should have
[21:45] <linuxonmac> slide: install grud to the mbr of your drive
[21:45] <linuxonmac> grub*
[21:45] <sebsebseb> !mac
[21:45] <Axis> slide: Its easiest if you just pop the live CD in the machine you need to fix the grub with. And then google GRUB commands to find out how to rebuild it
[21:45] <Surlent777> sebsebseb: I'm actually viewing that page, and installed open-ssh on both systems
[21:45] <kristian_> HammerHead66 : ok, hmmm, will have to try tommorow. time for bed, going to work early tommorow. see you around, hopefully tommorow. :-P
[21:46] <slide> Axis, the live cd wont boot, it keeps trying to mount ntfs partition and fails, constantly
[21:46] <HammerHead66> ﻿kristian_: ok, sweet dreams and don't give up we will get it working
[21:46] <Surlent777> axis: both computers are online, and a XBox 360 is also hooked up and running fine
[21:46] <beejay7777> hi
[21:46] <alevine> I removed a hard disk and changed my other one to master and now it says the partition is invalid, anyone know what to do?
[21:46] <antigoal> when is GTA4 being released for Ubuntu?
[21:46] <debianguy> surlent777 can you ssh localhost ?
[21:47] <Axis> slide: That dosen't make any sense. Regardless the live CD should boot. Sounds like possibly a hardware problem. Unless your BIOS settings are incorrect.
[21:47] <sebsebseb> antigoal: probably never
[21:47] <asmips> i'm trying to print a chart of unicode mathematical operators in openoffice spreadsheet; however some characters do not print at all. (i'm using hardy 8.04 and cups)
[21:47] <Surlent777> debianguy: Yes, I tried that, and it works on both systems
[21:47] <erUSUL> antigoal: i do not see this happening anytime soon (if ever)
[21:47] <sebsebseb> antigoal: however there are ways to run Windows games in Ubuntu
[21:47] <antigoal> shoot, i just worned out my PS3 gamepad
[21:47] <debianguy> Surlent777, what are your ips?
[21:47] <slide> Axis, well thats what happens =\
[21:47] <HammerHead66> ﻿antigoal: someone needs to port it for linux
[21:47] <linuxonmac> slide: I would try to boot to osx by holding down option button then install rEFIt
[21:47] <debianguy> *internal*
[21:47] <Axis> Surlent777: Sorry my networking experience with ubuntu is minimal, because I have almost never had problems.
[21:47] <asmips> Does anyone know how i can print these unicode characters that are not printing?
[21:47] <Axis> slide: I assume your BIOS settings are correct? Did you double check?
[21:48] <slide> Axis, yes, ive booted into a livecd before
[21:48] <sebsebseb> antigoal: most games companies, won't make for Desktop Linux, unless it has a much bigger market share
[21:48] <|PaperTiger|> Anyone here able to help?
[21:48] <slide> linuxonmac, the osx install os bad, so it wont boot
[21:48] <Surlent777> axis: I should also note that I can't seem to connect with this desktop here normally; I have to "sudo dhclient" every boot, and suspending completely ruins it
[21:48] <slide> is bad
[21:48] <linuxonmac> slide: this is on a mac or hack?
[21:48] <slide> hack
[21:48] <Gnea> kklimonda: have you tried not using pulseaudio for empathy?
[21:48] <linuxonmac> Oh try something like acronis disk suite
[21:49] <linuxonmac> slide: Elilo EFI Grub perhaps
[21:49] <Axis> slide: Hm....but it should work this time. It does not make any sense to me.
[21:49] <sebsebseb> antigoal: Codweavers Crossover Games a commercial version of Wine, is meant to soon have proper Directx10 suppourt
[21:49] <bolt> trying to boot from the install cd on a pentium 4 with a radeon 9800 graphics card, both in safe graphics mode and normal install and the livecd mode, i get the X mouse pointer on a black screen, the keyboard lights start blinking and nothing more happens. the mouse can't be moved and the keyboard doesn't work after this point. what's up with that?
[21:49] <slide> Axis, i know :(
[21:49] <guntbert> !ask | |PaperTiger|
[21:49] <Surlent777> debianguy: I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're needing
[21:49] <Axis> slide: So try and describe the problem again with as many details as possible.
[21:49]  * jyooruje ate amanha
[21:49] <debianguy> surlent777 can you ping between machines
[21:50] <Surlent777> debianguy: one sec, let me try it
[21:50] <|PaperTiger|> Well, Idealy, I need to reinstall the GRUB launcher
[21:50] <asmips>  i'm trying to print a chart of unicode mathematical operators in openoffice spreadsheet; however some characters do not print at all. (i'm using hardy 8.04 and cups). Does anyone know what may cause this and how I can make these unicode characters print?
[21:50] <sebsebseb> !Grub
[21:50] <|PaperTiger|> I'm trying to back up a mixture of files, from ext3 and ntfs (same HDD, different partitions) to another HDD, ntfs.
[21:50] <linuxonmac> slide: can you boot to windows? you can try using chainloader to load osx. I dont understand how is the osx86 partition corupt?
[21:50] <user___> asmips: incomplete font? does exporting to pdf work?
[21:50] <_dbd_l12> bolt: read this (especially the vga boot options part): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:51] <Surlent777> debianguy: I can ping it, I think
[21:51] <|PaperTiger|> Btw, I'm running from LiveCD...
[21:51] <Axis> Surlent777: You think?
[21:51] <slide> I had Windows, Ubuntu and OSX installed, I was trying to upgrade OSX to newest version and didnt realize it would upgrade the bootloader for the first hard drive (windows). The OSX upgrade failed so now when I boot, it tries to boot into osx unsuccessfully. I tried to boot to a livecd but it just keeps trying to mount my ntfs partition and fails and continues to do this never fully loading
[21:51] <Guest86996> im switching back to ubuntu quick question, can the ubuntu installer overwrite a slackware partition?
[21:51] <slide> linuxonmac, chainloader?
[21:51] <sebsebseb> Guest86996: just delete it when your partitining
[21:52] <Surlent777> Axis: I used ifconfig to get the ip, and there were several. I took the one under wlan, and it's allowing me to ping it
[21:52] <Guest86996> sebsebseb thanks
[21:52] <Axis> Guest86996: Never tried it, but at worst you could just use the GPARTED to delete the slackware partition to reinstall with ext3 or whatever you wish.
[21:52] <wat> kk
[21:52] <Paulo39> does someone knows how do i move a colum in openoffice database (identic to acess) for example: i have a table with 5 colums, i wanna put the 5th colum between 1st and 2nd colums
[21:52] <wat> ill just use a custom layout since installing ubuntu is easy as toasting a pop tart
[21:52] <sebsebseb> wat: you might want to prepare for Ext4 also
[21:52] <Axis> Surlent777: Ok, which machine did you get the IP of?
[21:53] <sei> sup?
[21:53] <Axis> The wireless or the wired one?
[21:53] <guntbert> Paulo39: ask in #openoffice.org
[21:53] <linuxonmac> slide: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Chain0
[21:54] <linuxonmac> slide: are you using PC-EFI?
[21:54] <Surlent777> Axis: wireless, in this case
[21:54] <wat> im going to use 8.04 instead of 8.10
[21:54] <Surlent777> Axis: I'm using the wired for this IRC session
[21:54] <dkulchenko> Why does mountlo use UML? Why can't it use FUSE directly?
[21:54] <wat> is anyone still using 7.04?
[21:54] <Guest76828> can some one help!!!!
[21:55] <wat> whats the problem
[21:55] <slide> linuxonmac, i dont know what that is
[21:55] <sebsebseb> wat: a few people I guess, but that one is no longer suppourted
[21:55] <wat> haha
[21:55] <Guest76828> how can i watch tv with out a card?
[21:55] <|PaperTiger|> Buy a TV?
[21:55] <kc8pxy> Guest76828: once  we know your problem, mebbe.
[21:55] <Axis> Surlent777: What did it say before the actual IP adress with the result of ifconfig? I.e. etho1 etho2 wlan0
[21:55] <wat> whats mebbe?
[21:55] <charlyp> with zattoo player
[21:55] <dkulchenko> wat: maybe
[21:55] <Axis> Surlent777: You could have just pinged the loopback which should always work if your nick is working.
[21:55] <wat> oh
[21:55] <wat> ok
[21:55] <Surlent777> Axis: wlan0
[21:56] <linuxonmac> slide: PC EFI is an EFI emulator booter. You can even install vanilla darwin with it
[21:56] <Axis> Surlent777: ok...hm....
[21:56] <wat> Guest76828 must have a big problem
[21:56] <wat> or be making it overly complicated ;)
[21:56] <Surlent777> haha
[21:56] <slide> linuxonmac, i got the XxX release, so im assuming its modified to boot on non mac machines
[21:56] <Axis> Surlent777: And you pinged the IP given at wlan0 from the wired machine?
[21:56] <guntbert> wat: do you have a support question?
[21:56] <bolt> _dbd_l12: what boot options should I add? as far as I understand, changing vga mode wont help very much, as it does boot all the way to X like I said. it just doesn't proceed from there on
[21:57] <HammerHead66> ﻿Guest76828:   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0844653/ anyother show you want to watch just type it in and your there. Make sure to bookmark this page ok
[21:57] <linuxonmac> slide: it comes preloaded in it but when you do an update from apple it will kill it.
[21:57] <Surlent777> Axis: yes
[21:57] <wat> guntbert im here to help people i dont need help with ubuntu often
[21:57] <slide> ah
[21:57] <slide> linuxonmac, well i gotta get osx fully installed first, i think the DVD was messed up
[21:57] <linuxonmac> slide: you can only do apple updates using PC EFI and a vanilla kernel
[21:57] <Axis> Surlent777: I mean you got the IP from the wireless machine, and then pinged it from the wired yes? And the address you pinged was from the wireless client right?
[21:57] <ottertoast> is this the ubuntu help #?
[21:57] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu
[21:58] <guntbert> wat: then please stop making derogative comments
[21:58] <sebsebseb> ottertoast: yes it is
[21:58] <Surlent777> Axis: yes
[21:58] <linuxonmac> slide: your best resource is insanelymac.com or OSX86 forums
[21:58] <wat> guntbert chill out
[21:58] <wat> this kind of thing happens all the time
[21:58] <guntbert> wat: not here :-)
[21:58] <_dbd_l12> bolt: try changing tty's (ctrl+alt+ 1...7) (x is 7) and see if you can get any information as to what is going wrong. i'd go for a quick test with a vga=791 boot option if i where you...
[21:58] <Axis> Surlent777: So what exactly dosen't work? Everything should be ok if the packets got back and forth. Possibly just an application error? Do you have firewalls set up on the two machines?
[21:59] <wat> guntbert you must be new
[21:59] <ottertoast> thanks, i'm trying to limit the bandwidth on my proftpd server and can't get it to work, i've tried the 'transferrate' command in proftpd.conf and tried using the 'trickle' program.
[21:59] <equionx55> hey i ahve an mirc question
[21:59] <buttons1> where can I find the desktop background for Hardy Heron
[21:59] <wat> you're right <Guest76828> can some one help!!!!   that never happens
[21:59] <Surlent777> Axis: I have firestarter on this, and a default UFW installation that came with the wireless
[21:59] <sebsebseb> equionx55: let's guess your question.  you want to know if you can run it in Ubuntu?
[21:59] <dkulchenko> wat: all the time
[21:59] <Surlent777> Axis: debianguy may have found something though, give me a bit to check
[21:59] <Axis> Surlent777: Ok, let me know how that works out
[22:00] <Bagualas> its possible to play sound in "mono"? my speaker is broken ;s
[22:00] <linuxonmac> slide: an easy fix for you is to boot up with the OSX86 DVD, mount your current OSX partition and copy the mach_kernel from the DVD to your installation.
[22:00] <|PaperTiger|> What is the easiest way to identify what HDD and partition the linux installation is on?
[22:00] <_dbd_l12> bolt: if your purpose is installation: there is also the 'alternate' install disc which will probably work fine as it's text-based (but still simple to install)
[22:00] <Axis> Bagualas: What application?
[22:00] <eqisow1> PaperTiger: fdisk -l
[22:00] <ottertoast> |PaperTiger|, fdisk -l
[22:00] <buttons1> Where can I find the desktop background for Hardy Heron?
[22:00] <Bagualas> Axis, all... or just banshee
[22:00] <ottertoast> buttons1, images.google.com
[22:01] <wat> |PaperTiger| use fdisk -l
[22:01] <sebsebseb> buttons1: the Internet or a hardy heron live cd
[22:01] <Axis> Bagualas: I don't know never needed to. Gimme just a sec...
[22:01] <|PaperTiger|> Thanks
[22:01] <buttons1> where would it be located on the hardy heron cd
[22:01] <bolt> _dbd_l12: wont it then just install the same stuff, and it'll hang once it boots to X?
[22:01] <wat> hey
[22:01] <wat> buttons1       http://www.zoto.com/raghunayak/img/original/f4945676561d1081f77d022464388d4d.jpg
[22:02] <wat> learn to google -_-
[22:02] <sebsebseb> buttons1: there's a folder in the file system.   ,but I don't feel like browsing my file system
[22:02] <slide> linuxonmac, the OSX installation failed, it didnt copy all the files
[22:02] <_dbd_l12> bolt: depends, but a install is easier to troubleshoot than a live cd
[22:02] <sebsebseb> buttons1: I am on 8.10, but the default backgrounds go in a folder
[22:02] <|PaperTiger|> This is what I get with fdisk -l
[22:02] <|PaperTiger|> Cannot open /dev/sda
[22:02] <|PaperTiger|> Cannot open /dev/sdb
[22:02] <|PaperTiger|> Cannot open /dev/sdc
[22:02] <ottertoast> |PaperTiger|, use sudo
[22:02] <_dbd_l12> PaperTiger: sudo
[22:02] <ottertoast> thanks, i'm trying to limit the bandwidth on my proftpd server and can't get it to work, i've tried the 'transferrate' command in proftpd.conf and tried using the 'trickle' program.
[22:03] <|PaperTiger|> sudo fdisk -l?
[22:03] <_dbd_l12> yes
[22:03] <ottertoast> tiger, yes
[22:03] <|PaperTiger|> Sorry I'm totally useless
[22:03] <ottertoast> papertiger, we all start somewhere :)
[22:03] <|PaperTiger|> =]
[22:03] <wat> |PaperTiger| i felt the same way with slackware
[22:03] <wat> whenever i would switch between no gui/gui X would crash :P
[22:03] <linuxonmac> slide: I understand now so you could not get it installed but it overwrote your mbr correct
[22:03] <linrunix> #gentoo
[22:04] <wat> |PaperTiger| getting used to ubuntu takes about 20 minutes lmao
[22:04] <constantine> everytime I restart my computer, ubuntu freezes up my desktop icons, turns them black and I can only get into the admin account to where I can read it by logging into a guest account first.  Also i have to reset my cairo-dock and compiz every time so that they look right and/or work.
[22:04] <slide> linuxonmac, right
[22:04] <|PaperTiger|> Getting used to, maybe, but being able to use the terminal stuff... meh.
[22:04] <wat> |PaperTiger| that took me an hour
[22:05] <wat> including memorizing commands
[22:05] <|PaperTiger|> Show off...
[22:05] <wat> |PaperTiger| this isnt gentoo :P
[22:05] <ottertoast> papertiger, its worth learning. keep it up.
[22:05] <Ramesses> an hour just to read about sudo? :))
[22:05] <wat> |PaperTiger| you just have to close irc and everything and focus on reading
[22:05] <|PaperTiger|> I will be learning, most likely the hard way...
[22:05] <ottertoast> can someone help me limit the bandwidth usage on my proftpd server?
[22:05] <HammerHead66> lol yes ram
[22:05] <oCean_> wat: This is ubuntu support channel. For chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:05] <linuxonmac> slide: you can try to us a windows 98 cd and restore windows as the mbr or just made grub head of it. I would personally use a solution like acronis but I have not had a hackintosh in quite some time so not sure if its still able to be used.
[22:05] <cr4z3d> i've got an interesting issue.. when i try to start ubiquity it starts the live cd installer. why is that? i've already installed it to my drive
[22:05] <JEEBcz> I actually prefer to do some stuff via the CLI >_>
[22:05] <wat> oCean_ i know :)
[22:06] <oCean_> wat: then behave
[22:06] <wat> sure
[22:07] <HammerHead66> ﻿cr4z3d: ur cd-rom is set to boot first in BIOS go and change it to hard drive first
[22:07] <cr4z3d> oh shit nevermind. ubiquity is the gui installer. i thought it was mozilla's ubiquity
[22:07] <|PaperTiger|> Right, I know there's a command line way to reinstall GRUB, but it didn't want to work for me when I tried it.
[22:07] <guntbert> ottertoast: there's #proftpd with 20 users...
[22:07] <|PaperTiger|> Wondering if anyone here would be able to help?
[22:07] <ottertoast> guntbert, thanks
[22:07] <constantine> ubuntu has frozen more on me than windows has in the last 4 months
[22:07] <constantine> lol
[22:08] <zelda> does 8.10 have the ConvertIT packages
[22:08] <zelda> ?
[22:08] <KingNerd> hey guys
[22:08] <KingNerd> I have a quick question
[22:08] <KingNerd> network manager is crashing my computer
[22:08] <KingNerd> but I cannot access my wireless internet without it
[22:08] <KingNerd> any ideas?
[22:08] <guntbert> !enter
[22:08] <FloodBot1> KingNerd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <unko> hey anyone know of a channel about theme's? like gnome in gerneral?
[22:08] <durt> KingNerd, try wicd
[22:09] <constantine> does anyone know how to troubleshoot ubuntu crashes, I can't find anything like this on the forums?
[22:09] <KingNerd> Does it have support for wireless devices? Ｉ　ｔｒｉｅｄ　ｌｘｎｍ　ａｎｄ　ｉｔ　ｄｉｄ　ｎｏｔ
[22:09] <linuxonmac> unko: I think kde-look.org and gnome-look.org both have channels
[22:09] <user___> constantine: you might check for qa - bug hunting people they explain how to obtain debug information
[22:09] <unko> linuxonmac, wht are theY?
[22:09] <ottertoast> unko, and gnome-look.org is a good place to start anyway
[22:10] <guntbert> !details | constantine
[22:10] <Shininggg2000> since upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, XP won't boot "unrecognized filesystem" any idea?
[22:10] <durt> constantine, stop running compiz etc. then slowly add them back till you isolate what is crashing the system.
[22:10] <durt> !wicd | KingNerd
[22:10] <n3rd4i> anyone here?
[22:10] <unko> linuxonmac, what are the channels?
[22:10] <constantine> thanks durt I'll try that, reboot and come back if necessary
[22:10] <linuxonmac> unko: #gnome-art on irc.gnome.org & #tango on irc.freenode.org
[22:11] <Ndshacker> hello all, can anyone tell me why my ntwork is so slowwww.
[22:11] <HammerHead66> ﻿constantine:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad there u go
[22:11] <unko> linuxonmac, thanks
[22:11] <wat> ubuntu can use kde 3.5 correct?
[22:11] <n3rd4i> i need some help with open office CALC
[22:11] <Ndshacker> Clamav is downloading at 1000 b/s
[22:11] <linuxonmac> unko: yw no prob
[22:11] <n3rd4i> anyone can help me?
[22:11] <wat> yes n3rd4i?
[22:11] <debianguy> n3rd4i what you need?
[22:11] <durt> wat, yes.
[22:11] <wat> good
[22:11] <guntbert> n3rd4i:  ask in #openoffice.org
[22:11] <wat> durt is it available in synaptic?
[22:11] <n3rd4i> i want to know how can i ripp the information off a cell
[22:12] <n3rd4i> made with some function
[22:12] <Ndshacker> and firefox is slooooow too
[22:12] <ottertoast> the #proftpd guys arent answering. anyone ever worked with it? i've been at it all day.
[22:12] <constantine> I don't think its a bug, HammerHead66, I think its a conflict of some sort - I'd rather just eliminate it than start a month long bug ticket
[22:12] <Ndshacker> it takes like 5 seconds for google to render
[22:13] <alevine> if i have a busted partition table but I know the data is on the disk, will recreating the partition table with the same cylinders work?
[22:13] <[biabia]> ottertoast: i gave it a whirl but had much better luck with vsftp
[22:13] <HammerHead66> ﻿constantine: but it also shows you how to find them
[22:13] <ottertoast> [biabia], the server works fine, all i'm trying to do is get it to stop giving all my avail bandwidth to my users
[22:13] <Ndshacker> >.< how can I test my network? I need to know if its just the download
[22:13] <Iowahc> hello there, got some problem. My Close, minimize, maximize buttons are gone. in gconf-editor -> button_layout they are still there
[22:14] <durt> wattazoum, http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/
[22:14] <monkey_d_luffy> Is there anything better than  par2   for creating forward error recovery files?   It doesn't support subdirectories :(
[22:14] <Surlent777> Iowahc: are you using Metacity or Emerald?
[22:14] <Iowahc> meta
[22:15] <buckethed> any recommendations of providing a mail server/j #ebox
[22:15] <buckethed> oops
[22:15] <Surlent777> Iowahc: I don't think I have any idea then, sorry. I just know that it's possible to mess up emerald in a similar way, but that's easily fixed.
[22:16] <Iowahc> how?, maybe it is connected, used emerald earlier
[22:16] <millertime_018> while installing enlightenment i ran into this...
[22:16] <millertime_018> adam@AcerLaptop:~$ sudo apt-get install zlib
[22:16] <millertime_018> Reading package lists... Done
[22:16] <millertime_018> Building dependency tree
[22:16] <millertime_018> Reading state information... Done
[22:16] <millertime_018> E: Couldn't find package zlib
[22:16] <FloodBot1> millertime_018: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <Surlent777> Iowahc: Emerald is totally different...it would replace Metacity's window decorator afaik
[22:17] <millertime_018> i need to install a package called zlib. can anyone help me?
[22:17] <Iowahc> Surlent777: I know, but I think the problem appeared in emerlad
[22:17] <jrib> millertime_018: why?
[22:17] <millertime_018> well, i need it to install enlightenment
[22:17] <Surlent777> Iowahc: Emerald can change it's window decorations in the theme set up...just make sure that there're symbols there in the emerald configuration box for your theme
[22:17] <millertime_018> jrib: it's listed but the terminal says it couldn't find the package called zlib
[22:17] <jrib> !software > millertime_018
[22:18] <durt> millertime_018, it's zlib-bin
[22:18] <millertime_018> when i run sudo apt-get install zlib
[22:18] <jrib> millertime_018: that's not the package name.  See ubottu's info on how to properly search for packages
[22:18] <millertime_018> !software > millertime_018
[22:19] <unko> is anyone here before ever made a icon pack? i have the icons i just need someone to rename them to work with ubuntu....so if anyone wants to take a shot at it PM me
[22:19] <millertime_018> jrib: i already know how to install stuff
[22:20] <ottertoast> can anyone help me with my proftpd bandwidth limitation?
[22:20] <jrib> millertime_018: do you know how to search for packages?
[22:20] <mustangg> hi all. Could anyone confirm yes/no that ubuntu has dropped use  of "/etc/inittab" in favour of something else.. (upstart?).
[22:20] <millertime_018> jrib: what i'm saying is that it can't find the package when i run the command
[22:20] <millertime_018> jrib: no
[22:20] <jrib> millertime_018: ok, then please take a few minutes to learn
[22:20] <jrib> millertime_018: for example: apt-cache search -n zlib
[22:20] <durt> millertime_018, oops, not zlib-bin, either zlib1g or zlibc. There is no zlib package.
[22:21] <up> dear
[22:21] <millertime_018> well if a guide says that zlib needs to be installed to they mean both?
[22:21] <millertime_018> http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/E17_User_Guide/Installing_from_Source_Repository
[22:21] <Ndshacker> how can i test my bandwith without flash being installed
[22:21] <millertime_018> jrib, durt: i'm looking here and i'm trying to follow the instructions
[22:22] <jrib> millertime_018: you probably need -dev
[22:22] <buckethed> can anyone recommend a web hosting framework for ubuntu servers?  basically looking for mail + web + mysql + dns administration\configuration all using a web frontend.
[22:22] <minimec> millertime_018: What guide are you following and do compile yourself, or do you use a repository?
[22:22] <durt> millertime_018, more than likely zlib1g, that's the runtime libs.
[22:22] <oCean_> !ot | buckethed
[22:22] <buckethed> ok thank you oCean
[22:23] <durt> millertime_018, zlibc are the C language libs.
[22:25] <zejtar> hi. I try customizing kubuntu with using this howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization. My problem is I remove kubuntu installer. And my question is. What are the names of packages for kubuntu installer ?
[22:28] <TomH1973> hello
[22:28] <oCean_> !hi | TomH1973
[22:29] <Surlent777> everyone loves the bot
[22:29] <TomH1973> Anyone know how to get ubuntu to work right with crystal cs4280 soundcard?
[22:30] <mustangg> can anyone confirm that /etc/inittab has been deprecated ..? (intrepid)
[22:31] <oCean_> !runlevels | mustangg
[22:31] <LjL> mustangg: yes it has
[22:31] <LjL> !upstart > mustangg    (mustangg, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:31] <LjL> mustangg: it can still be used to set the default runlevel (mostly useless), but all the rest gets ignored
[22:32] <kalidar> Does anyone know why after i installed wine on my Box my sounds suddenly stopped?
[22:32] <Surlent777> Axis: Firewalls are a pain. That was my whole problem. Now it works. Thanks for the help
[22:33] <TomH1973>  Can anyone help me get the right driver so my sound will work right in Ubuntu Please help
[22:33] <mustangg> LjL: Thanks. Just needed to know if it was correct (ie:deprecated). I'm trying to run down (pun unintended) a problem with a shell script.
[22:33] <kalidar> i have same problem tomh my sound dosent work
[22:34] <TomH1973> My sound works but is realy poor and that is speaking nice
[22:35] <TomH1973> what is os/2?
[22:35] <HammerHead66> TomH: did u kill pulseaudio?
[22:35] <yell> since yesterday i am wondering if gdm completly ignores the xorg.conf
[22:35] <oCean_> !alsa | TomH1973
[22:36] <Milligan> If I have two ips on my server .. can I make ssh listen to port 22 on one ip, and i.e 2222 on the other ip ?
[22:36] <TomH1973> WHat is Pulseaudio ?
[22:36] <Surlent777> TomH1973: It's a sound server
[22:37] <Surlent777> TomH1973: It may also be messed up by default
[22:37] <HammerHead66> TomH: go to /system/Admin/system monitor
[22:37] <aiuw> What's a program to modify metadata?
[22:37] <TomH1973> sso How do You Kill it Do I get out my 22 and start shooting?? lol
[22:37] <HammerHead66> TomH: highlight Processes
[22:38] <Surlent777> TomH1973: Here's a guide fix pulseaudio's quirks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[22:38] <Surlent777> guide to*
[22:38] <HammerHead66> TomH: go down till you see it and right click it and selece kill process
[22:38] <lolwut`> how do i open ssh on ubuntu?
[22:39] <lolwut`> want someone to logon and plant a modded ircd
[22:39] <lolwut`> lol
[22:39] <TomH1973> I can not find Processes
[22:39] <|PaperTiger|> Is there a way to reformat a HDD on Linux?
[22:39] <HammerHead66> TomH: your in GUI right?
[22:40] <Sagaci> TomH1973: processes is a tab on the top side
[22:40] <wat> sup
[22:40] <TomH1973> Im using Ubuntu
[22:40] <TomH1973> im on Ubuntu
[22:40] <fremapesua> Hello everyone
[22:40] <wat> my 1.5 tb external hard drive isnt being recognized
[22:41] <sebsebseb> .
[22:41] <TomH1973>  I have the ubuntu logo Applications Places System
[22:41] <fremapesua> quick question... there is some software where it will able to open a the band on a cellphone to run in ubuntu?
[22:42] <unko> can someone in here make an icon pack for me please? i ahve all the icon i just need someone to make it work with ubuntu!! please please please
[22:42] <wat> does anyone know what i should do about my external hard drive not being recognized?
[22:42] <mustangg> wat - a seagate? if so, best to check if it is are on their "recall" list (firmware issue) before doin too much work
[22:42] <jrib> unko: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/IconThemes
[22:42] <John_OAS> Wat, what is it formatted to?  What size is it?
[22:42] <unko> John_OAS, me?
[22:43] <wat> mustangg it is seagate :o
[22:43] <wat> mustangg it worked fine in fedora
[22:43] <mustangg> wat - ok, just a fyi then. \
[22:43] <John_OAS> no sorry, wat - re extrnal hard drive.  Is it formatted?  Fat32, ext, etc
[22:43] <lolwut`> how do i open ssh on ubuntu?
[22:43] <jrib> !ssh | lolwut`
[22:43] <yell> i mean how can it be that on the one hand startx fails, but gdm is fine (with messed up xorg.conf) and on the other sometimes gdm starts with a nice window complaining about my graphic settings (with a fresh auto-generated xorg.conf)?
[22:43] <unko> jrib, wanna make it for me? seems like a long proccess to do that
[22:44] <jrib> unko: no
[22:44] <lolwut`> thanks
[22:44] <wat> mustangg its at /dev/sdg
[22:44] <wat> mustangg i forgot to add its ntfs
[22:44] <John_OAS> wat, does it still work OK on other systems?
[22:44] <unko> jrib, :[
[22:44] <wat> John_OAS yes it does, on fedora 10/windows xp
[22:45] <jrib> unko: i bet if you sit down and read for a few minutes you can finish within 30 minutes :)
[22:45] <wat> also John_OAS its being recognized by fdisk -l
[22:45] <John_OAS> If a portable drive is disconnected from say, a Windows machine without a "clean" disconnect, Ubuntu won't mount it.
[22:45] <wat> that hasnt happend
[22:45] <wat> ill boot windows right quick
[22:45] <John_OAS> If you can, reconnect it to the XP box, use the "remove media" and wait for the "Device is OK to remove now" message, and try agian.
[22:46] <jimisrvrox> I need to reinstall nm-applet because I tried out wicd and wasnt too successful with it and I treid to look for it on the ubuntu cd and couldnt get it back on my wifes system
[22:46] <unko> jrib, re naming all of them! pfft and i need to find which is which man....im not good at these kinda things
[22:46] <mrjohns1> could anyone recommend a configuration management software like. cfengine ? which is best for ubuntu/debian?
[22:46] <unko> jrib, it's a pretty nice theme look http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?twytmmyywyt
[22:48] <John_OAS> Anyone got any idea why one of my machine's wont let me login today?  Regardless of which login I use, I'm bounced straight back to the login screen or prompt.
[22:48] <yell> to restate my question: startx uses xorg.conf, what does gdm use?
[22:48] <tq|Memphis> anyone know rar password cracker ?
[22:48] <lstarnes> yell: xorg.conf and the files in /etc/gdm/
[22:48] <yell> John_OAS is your disc quota/space full?
[22:48] <Surlent777> and now for something completely different: I tired using the MAKE USB BOOT DISK tool, and used it to make a LiveUSB of 8.10. It worked. I was done with it, so I just erased everything on it, and now it doesn't want to boot off of it anymore. Any ideas as to why this might be?
[22:48] <durt> yell, gdm runs on top of xorg
[22:48] <John_OAS> It's not a password issue, I get a proper "Login incorrect" message when I get that wrong./
[22:49] <funkyHat> Can I make the mail check that is run on login shells check a maildir rather than the user's mbox?
[22:49] <yell> if gdm runs on top of xorg, how can "gdm" work and "startx" fail?
[22:49] <John_OAS> yell, I'm pretty sure it's nowhere near it.  I'm booting from  a live CD now to have a look at the drive.
[22:49] <Ndshacker> hello, yesterday I was downloading at speeds >50 kb/s
[22:49] <unko> anyone wanna make a icon theme for me? i have the icons i just need someone to do it for me :]
[22:49] <Turtle_> ¾
[22:50] <oCean_> !best | mrjohns1
[22:50] <Ndshacker> now i am getting lucky to get 10 kb/s
[22:50] <durt> startx, starts and xsession, window manager etc. the prob is not withxorg
[22:50] <crdlb> yell: in what way does it fail?
[22:50] <durt> starts an
[22:51] <wat> John_OAS
[22:51] <constantine> hi all, I'm having a problem maximizing windows, they only maximize to fill half of the screen
[22:51] <binarymutant> I'm trying to split a video into smaller parts for youtube, what can I use to do this?
[22:51] <wat> my external hard drive is recognized in windows i can explore it
[22:51] <John_OAS> OK was, do a by the book WIndows disconnect.
[22:51] <wat> sure
[22:51] <John_OAS> Sorry, "wat"
[22:51] <yell> crdlb: have a fileserver without a monitor, but a TV connected. if i had modes by hand to my xorg.conf with 50Hz forced, then startx replys that no suitable mode was found. gdm however just starts with 60Hz
[22:51] <crdlb> constantine: what window manager are you using?
[22:52] <wat> um John_OAS i cant eject it
[22:52] <krzysz00> wat, does it show in the places menu (might be as <some number> GB media
[22:52] <John_OAS> Windows says it's still in use?
[22:52] <yell> crdlb: not "had" but "add" :)
[22:52] <wat> John_OAS there is no option for eject
[22:52] <wat> wait hold on
[22:52] <whileimhere> hi is there a channel for wine-picasa users anywhere?
[22:53] <constantine> crdlb I don't know how do I find out
[22:53] <crdlb> yell: they both use the xorg.conf, so I don't know; they might use different arguments to the Xorg binary though
[22:53] <crdlb> constantine: do you have visual effects enabled?
[22:53] <John_OAS> Just use the "Safely remove hardware" icon in the system tray. (Green arrow thingy)
[22:53] <constantine> crdlb yes
[22:53] <krzysz00> in ubuntu, right click on the drive's icon and pick unmount volume (wat)
[22:53] <crdlb> constantine: do you have CompizConfig Settings Manager (ccsm) installed?
[22:54] <constantine> crdlb I just uninstalled it
[22:54] <eseven3> i need libopenexr2ldbl but cant find it anywhere, it's needed for the Yafaray renderer for Blender, it's supposed to work in ibex, I tried sudo dpkg -i --force- yafaray_299svn_i386.deb  no luck
[22:54] <mrjohns1> could anyone recommend a configuration management software like. cfengine ? which is best for ubuntu/debian?
[22:54] <crdlb> constantine: err, why?
[22:54] <Ndshacker> help?
[22:54] <krzysz00> exven3 try sudo dpkg -i yafaray_299svn_i386.deb
[22:55] <TaG^> is there a channel for eee pc?
[22:55] <krzysz00> have you tried apt-cache search openexr
[22:55] <eseven3> yeah
[22:55] <oCean_> TaG^: #ubuntu-eeepc
[22:55] <krzysz00> what's the error
[22:55] <constantine> crdlb: it was causing problems with my login, black screen  - color bars appearing, etc.
[22:55] <eseven3> get dependency probs :(
[22:55] <TaG^> oCean_ thanks
[22:56] <wat> John_OAS nope :/
[22:56] <oCean_> wat: You know the device name, but it has not been mounted ? And it is ntfs?
[22:56] <Ariana> ok, so i've downloaded this "unetbootin" program like i was told, and it's not offering me anywhere reasonable to install the linux to
[22:57] <John_OAS> OK then, just do a complete shutdown of the XP Box with the portable drive connected.  WHen it's shutdown completely, asuming no errros, remove the drive and reconnect to your Ubuntu box.
[22:57] <Ariana> it only gives me a choice of my windows partitions
[22:57] <wat> yes oCean_
[22:57] <Ariana> even though i have already made a linux ext3 and swap
[22:57] <oCean_> wat: then mount manually first, see if that works
[22:57] <wat> John_OAS i have already done that
[22:57] <jerrymcfarts> hey peeps
[22:57] <wat> oCean_ whats the command i forget
[22:57] <wat> not mnt?
[22:57] <Ariana> anyone have any ideas?
[22:57] <oCean_> wat: "sudo mkdir /mydisk" <- or whatever
[22:57] <oCean_> wat: "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg1 /mydisk"
[22:58] <oCean_> wat: sdg if i remember correctly
[22:58] <eseven73> krzysz00: http://paste.ubuntu.com/135669/
[22:58] <crdlb> constantine: ccsm itself did not do that
[22:58] <Ariana> anyone, hello?
[22:58] <guizmo> hello
[22:58] <crdlb> constantine: you have to fix any changes to compiz's configuration that you made _in_ ccsm, or just turn off compiz entirely (Visual effects to None)
[22:58] <wat> oCean_ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg
[22:58] <wat>  correct
[22:58] <wat> ?
[22:59] <Ariana> ok, so i have a ext3 and a swap partition, why isnt unetbootin only giving me a choice of my windows partitions to install to?
[22:59] <oCean_> wat: almost
[22:59] <Ariana> why is*
[22:59] <oCean_> wat: "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg1 /mydisk"
[22:59] <irbdavid> anyone have any suggestions to speed up flash / video performance on a GMA 950 netbook?
[22:59] <eseven73> my helper just abandoned me lol, so can anyone else help?  getting dependency issues trying to install this blender renderer http://paste.ubuntu.com/135669/
[22:59] <oCean_> wat: replace /mydisk with whatever (existing!) directory you want your disk mounted to
[23:00] <wat> um what. fuse: failed to access mountpoint /music: No such file or directory
[23:00] <oCean_> wat: so create /music first "sudo mkdir /music"
[23:00] <John_OAS> wat: create the directory first, make sure it doesn't have anything else in it, as oCean has detailed.
[23:00] <wat> oCean_ the folder music is already there -_-
[23:00] <wat> oh wait i see
[23:01] <John_OAS> Removable drive are often mounted at /media/whatever
[23:01] <John_OAS> creat the "whatever" folder for your drive first.
[23:01] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[23:02] <Ariana> should i just assume that the stuff i type, noone sees?
[23:02] <wat> John_OAS how can i create the directory at the external drive? sudo mkdir /dev/sdg/asdf doesnt work
[23:02] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: i can see it
[23:02] <Ariana> any ideas then?
[23:02] <wat> ariana hold on
[23:02] <eseven73> Ariana: i had you on ignore i see you now
[23:02] <eseven73> j/k hehe
[23:02] <oCean_> wat: nono
[23:02] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: i just came in so havent seen your query
[23:02] <John_OAS> wat: "sudo mkdir /media/myhdd"
[23:02] <oCean_> wat: don't create dir on /dev/sdg. First you have to mount the disk!
[23:02] <wat> ariana do a manual parittion setup
[23:02] <ActionParsnip1> wat: to make the folder the partition must be mounted
[23:03] <Ariana> the partitions are already set up
[23:03] <Ariana> its on an external harddrive, i've already made an ext3 and a swap
[23:03] <Ariana> i just need to install to it now
[23:03] <wat> John_OAS when replacing myhdd with /dev/sdg it says no such file/directory
[23:03] <pvtpete> hi
[23:03] <wat> wait nevermind
[23:03] <pvtpete> my fstab file has been wiped
[23:03] <binarymutant> what are some good video editing apps for linux?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: part of the partitioning is to set what each is used for and if it is to be formatted or not
[23:03] <pvtpete> what does a normal one look like, anyone ?
[23:03] <Ariana> they've been formated, yes
[23:03] <wat> mount: can't find /media/dev/sdg in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:03] <ActionParsnip1> binarymutant: kio, avidemux are some
[23:04] <binarymutant> ActionParsnip1, ty
[23:04] <oCean_> wat: Are you completely ignoring my commands?
[23:04] <Ariana> i'm in windows atm, i want to install ubuntu onto my external hdd, i used paragon partition manager to make the partitions and format em
[23:04] <wat> oCean_ no im not
[23:04] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: run through the installed and tell it which partitions are used for each mount point (/ and /swp)
[23:04] <oCean_> wat: Read back what I suggested. Make a folder (mountpoint) then run the mount command with the correct options
[23:04] <Ariana> action, i'm in windows atm, trying to get ubuntu installed onto an external hdd
[23:04] <John_OAS> wat: "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg1 /media/myhdd"
[23:04] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: they will need formatting ext2 or ext3
[23:04] <Ndshacker> !/etc/network/interfaces
[23:05] <Ariana> i have an 8.1gb ext3 followed by a 2gb swap2
[23:05] <Ndshacker> !find /etc/network/interfaces
[23:05] <ActionParsnip1> John_OAS: yu'll need more options on that
[23:05] <wat> John_OAS why are you putting myhdd?
[23:05] <jerrymcfarts> I walked into a bar last night and there was a weird contest going on. They apparently had meet nailed to the ceiling and the bartender tells me to throw this dart and if i hit the meat. I get a free beer. Well I told him frankly that I would not part take in his games, simply because the steaks were to high.
[23:05] <ActionParsnip1> John_OAS: so users can write to it
[23:05] <wat> also i get failed to access mountpoint
[23:05] <unko> anyone in here wanna make a sweet icon theme? i have the icons all i need is for you to pack them up and rename them
[23:05] <biglinux> server irc.virtualife.com.br
[23:05] <John_OAS> You can use whatever directory you created to mount your drive to.
[23:05] <Ndshacker> i alll, my internet works, but my download speed is like 10 kb/s >.<
[23:05] <ActionParsnip1> wat: you need to create an empty folder to mount to
[23:05] <biglinux> server irc.virtualife.com.br
[23:06] <John_OAS> In my previous command I showed how to create the /media/myhdd directory, as an example.
[23:06] <Ndshacker> I need soem help as that is an unnaceptable spped
[23:06] <ActionParsnip1> wat: try this
[23:06] <Ariana> so, the  partitions are all ready, but when i run unetbootin, it only gives me a choice of my windows ntfs partitions to install to
[23:06] <wat> sorry about my ignorance there is a lot of background noise
[23:06] <Ariana> why?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip1> wat: sudo mkdir /media/mydata; mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg1 /media/mydata -o uid=1000
[23:06] <wat> thanks man
[23:07] <Ariana> and what other programs can i use to install ubuntu onto an external hdd from within windows?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: does the other disk show up in sudo fdisk -l ?
[23:07] <wat> ActionParsnip1 when i do that it says only root can do this lmao
[23:07] <Ariana> what's sudo fdisk?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: not sure, i dont use windows at all
[23:07] <ikanobori> hi oCean_
[23:07] <wat> Ariana fdisk -l shows you all your drives on your system
[23:07] <ActionParsnip1> Wat it needs sudo on the mount command
[23:07] <wat> o
[23:07] <oCean_> ikanobori: hey
[23:07] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: sudo fdisk -l  will list your partitions in the system that the kernel can see
[23:08] <Ariana> fdisk is not a recognised command
[23:08] <John_OAS> wat, Action gave you two commands there, you can separate them.
[23:08] <Ariana> IM USING WINDOWS
[23:08] <Ariana> i've said that like 5 times
[23:08] <mustangg> ariana - tried using a livecd and setting up directly ?
[23:08] <wat> thanks for all the help guys
[23:08] <Ariana> and u keep giving me linux commands to run
[23:08] <tritium> Ariana: please, no all-caps.
[23:08] <wat> im saving that command
[23:08] <tritium> Ariana: this is a linux support channel, not Windows.
[23:08] <pvtpete> hi, could someone please help me with fstab
[23:08] <Ariana> im trying to install ubuntu
[23:08] <militant> what package is needed for imagemagick?  i've installed both graphicsmagick and imagemagick pkgs and neither seems to actually be installed
[23:08] <wat> Ariana if you really did install unetbootin you would have a bootloader ;)
[23:08] <pvtpete> the file seems to have been erased
[23:08] <pvtpete> or blanked out
[23:08] <Ariana> install? it's just an executable
[23:08] <binarymutant> Ariana, fdisk is in windows too btw
[23:08] <ActionParsnip1> Wat: if you put that in your /etc/fstab (but re-arranged) AND the drive is internal, it will mount at bootup
[23:08] <Ariana> want me to take a screenshot?
[23:09] <wat> -_____________________________________-
[23:09] <wat> UNETBOOTIN INSTALLS A BOOTLOADER
[23:09] <ActionParsnip1> !usb | Ariana
[23:09] <wat> IT CAN INSTALL GPARTED OR A LINUX DISTRO
[23:09] <tritium> !caps | wat
[23:09] <ActionParsnip1> Wat: kil the caps
[23:09] <wat> you said you have installed gparted
[23:09] <wat> unetbootin*
[23:09] <Ariana> i'm not trying to install FROM a flash drive, i'm just trying to install ONTO an external HDD, from windows, without making and booting a CD
[23:09] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: read htose guides for installing to usb
[23:10] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: could use a vm maybe
[23:10] <Ariana> isn't there just a program to run, which will install ubuntu onto the hdd, from windows?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: to boot the iso and then install to usb that way
[23:10] <balrog____> how do i get pulseaudio to play my music on my laptop through the speakers on my desktop?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: i dont use windows so i dont know
[23:10] <wat> Ariana can you boot from usb
[23:10] <ii_> Ariana: You could try wubi
[23:11] <binarymutant> Ariana, I think it's called wubi
[23:11] <Ariana> i was told wubi would mess up my boot sector
[23:11] <Ariana> i don't want my boot sector modified
[23:11] <ActionParsnip1> balrog____: ive been after than and so far i turned up blank
[23:11] <infiter789> anyone knows a program to boot vector linux lite in a usb 2.0 pendrive?
[23:11] <wat> Ariana,
[23:11] <tritium> !wubi | Ariana
[23:11] <wat> who told you that Ariana dont listen to that person
[23:11] <wat> i dont recommend wubi but still
[23:11] <Ariana> ok, well i'l give that a go, thanks
[23:12] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: it adds stuff to the windows bootup, what is so precious of your boot sector if yu only boot windows
[23:12] <balrog____> ActionParsnip1: then what is the use of keeping it?
[23:12] <infiter789> Ariana: Use Wine... is another option, and is quite simple.
[23:12] <ActionParsnip1> balrog____: keeping what?
[23:12] <Ariana> ok, wubi has the same problem
[23:12] <Ariana> it only offers me my windows partitions to install to
[23:12] <Ariana> not my linux oens
[23:13] <balrog__> ActionParsnip1: pulseaudio...it seems really useless, and ive never gotten it to work as it is marketed (this isnt the first time ive tried to get it to work)
[23:13] <tritium> Ariana: no, that's not a problem.  That's how it works.
[23:13] <Jared> hey guys
[23:13] <Jared> i believe i am in need of some help
[23:13] <Ariana> but i've got an ext3 and a swap partition waiting
[23:13] <dubby> hey anyone, im running ubuntu on a core2 quad q6600 and going into system monitor, i only see one CPU
[23:13] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: the windows OS can only read and write to NTFS unless you install fs-driver, which is why its not showing the space as an option
[23:13] <dubby> why is that
[23:13] <dubby> i have an smp kernel
[23:13] <wat> Ariana delete those
[23:13] <ActionParsnip1> balrog__: i use alsa, tried and tested
[23:13] <balrog__> Jared: just state the question/s  :-)
[23:13] <wat> ubuntu has a great partition manager
[23:13] <Ariana> so, you're saying i have to burn a CD, basically?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: it'd save you a tonne of issues
[23:14] <Jared> I've been stuck using vista for the past 7 months and i'm fed up with it. I need help configuring ndiswrapper for a WUSB300N linksys usb wireless adapter so i can get on linux again... i miss my 3d desktop and i'm going insane.
[23:14] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: you can install fs-driver from www.fs-driver.org
[23:14] <Ariana> and installing from the CD wont change my boot sector?
[23:14] <kudi> ActionParsnip1: delete windows
[23:14] <Jared> and i have no clue how to use ndiswrapper >..>
[23:14] <wat> Ariana dont be so paranoid
[23:14] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: and your ext3 formatted partions will be available to windows
[23:14] <balrog__> ActionParsnip1: "forget" PA then, its just a waste of time for me then.  hopefully someday it isnt, but that day seems to be a long ways off.  thanks for your help.
[23:14] <wat> also Jared you can get a 3d desktop for windows ;)
[23:14] <John_OAS> You cna use wubi to install to a different paritiion, Ariana, but not an ext3 one, as ActionParsnip pointed out.
[23:14] <wat> Ariana just delete your dang ext3 partitions already!
[23:14] <Trin> that fs-driver is not compatible with vista
[23:14] <Imahilus> hello?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: it will on the USB as thats where itts being installed to
[23:15] <Trin> i have tried it
[23:15] <Ariana> i'm using xp not vista
[23:15] <Jared> its not the same... 15,000 frames a second on glxgears > vista lol
[23:15] <wat> hi Imahilus
[23:15] <Iowahc> Hy there, still got my problem :D, no buttons in my window title, using metacity
[23:15] <anarchomaniac> hey
[23:15] <mustangg> Ariana you know that even when the mbr is changed - ie: lilo or grub, that it can be restore with windows own tools?
[23:15] <Jared> anyway, anyone know how to configure ndiswrapper ?
[23:15] <anarchomaniac> guys, i know you dread hearing this; i'm a linux noob with an Ndiswrapper problem.
[23:15] <pvtpete> hi.. I'm following this guide but I can't find the script on the server https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[23:15] <Ariana> yes mustan, i had that happen once before, but had to reinstall windows to get it back
[23:15] <pvtpete> maybe the documentation is out of date ?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: if you are only boting P i really dont understand why you are worried about the bot sector. It can be easily repaired with you Pcd with a simple fixmbr then fixbot   job done
[23:15] <Trin> actionparsnip1 do you know of a driver or program that will do the samething that ariana is trying to do
[23:15] <tritium> Ariana: no, you didn't have to.  You may have done that, but it was unnecessary.
[23:15] <Jared> anarchomaniac: we have the same problem lol, im not quite a noob but ive never done ndis xD
[23:15] <wat> this channel moves too fast
[23:16] <Imahilus> don't suppose anybody could help me with a (wireless) network issue? (connection 'dropping' / lagging every now and again
[23:16] <Ariana> unnecessary? ohdear
[23:16] <anarchomaniac> Jared: lol, pm me please. i want to discuss my problem and see if it's teh same
[23:16] <ActionParsnip1> Trin: not sure, i'd burn a cd as they are dead useful
[23:16] <Jared> kk
[23:16] <Ariana> that link you gave me, its only talking about ext2 support, will it do ext3 also?
[23:16] <Trin> my files constantly change though
[23:16] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: sure youjust wont be able to read the journal
[23:17] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: i think you are making this way too complicated
[23:17] <tritium> Ariana: please, read the documentation.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[23:17] <Trin> and my computer for some reason wont reconize cdrw's
[23:17] <kudi> any1 know of a gtk-change themes like program strictly for icons...im running ubuntu with just fluxbox nothing else
[23:17] <ActionParsnip1> !icons
[23:17] <ActionParsnip1> haha
[23:17] <wat> with dual monitors how do i keep my top bar from stretching across both monitors
[23:17] <Iowahc> I am missing my close, min, and max button, using metacity
[23:18] <Imahilus> lots of people with problems in here o.o'
[23:18] <wat> fixed
[23:18] <kudi> lol not even close
[23:18] <ActionParsnip1> kudi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228892
[23:18] <Trin> action<> anyother way to do that without constantly burning cd's
[23:19] <Ariana> ok, so now my ext3 and swap partitions are showing up
[23:19] <Ariana> so i can use unetbootin to install to there it seems
[23:19] <John_OAS> Well done wat.
[23:19] <mustangg> Imahilus yeah and some even related to ubuntu &)
[23:19] <Imahilus> I'm having a issue with ubuntu =)
[23:20] <John_OAS> yell, I don't think my quote is the issue (talking about automatic login bounce).  Any other ideas?
[23:20] <Imahilus> also having an issue with XP on the side
[23:20] <Imahilus> but the XP issue is moot
[23:20] <ryanakca> I'm using a VT and I got ``BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 61s! [cc1:22054]''. My computer isn't responding anymore. Anything I can do? I have a few files open I'd rather not loose...
[23:20] <John_OAS> yell, sorry, "Quota".  Command line logins also bounce me out.  Ctrl-Alt-F1 login the same.
[23:20] <pvtpete> any fstab experts here ?
[23:20] <ryanakca> !anyone | pvtpete
[23:20] <pvtpete> or automatic drive mounting experts
[23:21] <Imahilus> wondering if any of you people have your wireless connection (almost) dropping every now and again?
[23:21] <ImInYourMonad> is Ubuntu an AI?
[23:21] <pvtpete> I'm having problems automatically mounting my drives with the script from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[23:21] <pvtpete> because it's telling me the script can't be found on the server
[23:22] <pvtpete> maybe someone would be able to help me please ? :)
[23:22] <Time`s_Witness> is there any msn client or plugin for linux that displays activity log per user? (logins/logouts/name changes/status changes)
[23:22] <Time`s_Witness> similarly to msn plus
[23:22] <Imahilus> afraid I'm a newly convertee, pvtpete
[23:22] <arizona> hello
[23:22] <Imahilus> newly converted* even
[23:22] <Imahilus> ey
[23:22] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: probably
[23:23] <Iowahc> I am missing my close, min, and max button, using metacity
[23:23] <pvtpete> np imahilus
[23:23] <arizona> i am trying to figure out if there is a method to upgrade compiz on hardy, via .deb or repos, to a newer version than 0.7.6
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: also theres Kmess and Mercury Messenger a closed source Java app, made by only one guy
[23:23] <pvtpete> been hanging around for a while.. this channels busy central
[23:23] <John_OAS> pvtpete: Is this an extra hdd or exernal drive?  I assume your main drive is OK and your Ubuntu install is generally healthy?
[23:23] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: did you chmod +x the script ?
[23:23] <Imahilus> it says 1400 people in the room, a dozen or so active ones?
[23:24] <Time`s_Witness> and does any of those have that functionality sebsebseb ?
[23:24] <_VIM_> Imahilus: most people idle
[23:24] <nonix4> Is there a way to make kernel reserve upper 5 gigs of ram for buffer+cache?
[23:24] <Imahilus> bummer, could've used some help =)
[23:24] <pvtpete> that's correct john_OAS . thanks for the help
[23:24] <ActionParsnip1> ask | Imahilus
[23:24] <pvtpete> fyi it's 6 internal drives
[23:24] <Imahilus> it is wireless related
[23:24] <pvtpete> 1 isn't working on top of that
[23:24] <Scott_Galinsky> Hi. Could someone help me out?
[23:24] <Imahilus> perhaps wired aswell, can't test that though
[23:24] <ImInYourMonad> can Ubuntu get me a girlfriend?
[23:24] <pvtpete> for an unknown reason
[23:25] <Imahilus> yes, ubuntu can
[23:25] <pvtpete> lol
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: try them or find out about them.  also I think there will be a plugin for PIdgin
[23:25] <ImInYourMonad> cool
[23:25] <ImInYourMonad> lela star?
[23:25] <Imahilus> doubtful
[23:25] <John_OAS> pvtpete: Check the permission on the script as ActionParsnip said.  Make sure it's where you think it is and with the right name.
[23:25] <mbrigdan> Its good but its not all powerful
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: and MSN plus is a load of rubbish,  it  tends to put spyware or other rubbish on peoples computers as well, even if they say no to the sponser program
[23:25] <Imahilus> its actually better than windows o.o'
[23:25] <arizona> i am trying to figure out if there is a method to upgrade compiz on hardy, via .deb or repos, to a newer version than 0.7.6
[23:25] <militant> i could really use a pointer here.  the ubuntu packages labeled imagemagick and graphicsmagick are installing documentation but nothing else????
[23:26] <pvtpete> according to the doc it should be cd
[23:26] <pvtpete> wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[23:26] <Trin> does anyone know of a windows driver that will work with vista business?
[23:26] <Time`s_Witness> i know that and i agree with that sebsebseb, i use that functionality alot though
[23:26] <Time`s_Witness> thats why im asking for linux's version :P
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: it's good your looking into alternatives, but there is a way you can have MSN plus  in Ubuntu well kind of
[23:26] <Imahilus> @ trin: what kind of a driver?
[23:26] <pvtpete> I tried that but it told me..  wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[23:26] <pvtpete> --2009-03-22 23:05:49--  http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[23:26] <pvtpete> Resolving media.ubuntu-nl.org... failed: Name or service not known.
[23:26] <pvtpete> wget: unable to resolve host address `media.ubuntu-nl.org'
[23:26] <FloodBot1> pvtpete: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:26] <Scott_Galinsky> I have installed Ubuntu using Wubi. what i'm not understanding is that they keep saying "try" it. I want it installed. How do I do that?
[23:26] <_VIM_> !ppa | arizona (maybe try this)....
[23:26] <Time`s_Witness> i dont want to se wine for msn in linux
[23:26] <arizona> thanks
[23:26] <Time`s_Witness> or anything similar. i might use it for other applications eventually.. but avoid to max
[23:27] <Scott_Galinsky> I have installed Ubuntu using Wubi. what i'm not understanding is that they keep saying "try" it. I want it installed. How do I do that?
[23:27] <arizona> !ppa
[23:27] <arizona> oO, sry.
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: no not WIne,  a Windows virtual machine instead.  and yes I know Windows LIve Messenger or both with MSN plus,  would be a sucky reason for a virtual machine  or even  to use Wine if they would work there
[23:27] <Scott_Galinsky> I have installed Ubuntu using Wubi. what i'm not understanding is that they keep saying "try" it. I want it installed. How do I do that?
[23:27] <Imahilus> @ Scott Galinsky: I used the live CD, theres this big icon named 'install ubuntu', that does just that
[23:27] <ActionParsnip1> Time`s_Witness: tried amsn
[23:27] <Scott_Galinsky> I think that I did that. When I was in windows I ran the EXE
[23:27] <Ariana> what would you guys suggest as the best bootloader then for use with both linux and windows?
[23:27] <militant> apt-get install graphicsmagick  only results in some things being put in /usr/share/doc/graphicsmagick   ... NOTHING else.   what gives?  seriously, it installed just fine yesterday
[23:27] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: he wants a partcular feature
[23:27] <Scott_Galinsky> And then it installed
[23:27] <Time`s_Witness> lol, if im going to use VM in linux i better not to install linux, im at windows with VM for linux now ;)
[23:27] <Ariana> preferably a nice good looking one
[23:28] <Scott_Galinsky> does that mean I'm done?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip1> sebsebseb: bah
[23:28] <Imahilus> that will instull ubuntu under windows I believe
[23:28] <Imahilus> not sure if that is what you're after?
[23:28] <John_OAS> Scott, Boot from the CD, install from there.  If you can boot ubuntu without the CD afterwards, you're done!
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: lol your running  Ubuntu inside Windows?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: grub is fine, i wouldnt worry about looks, its on the screen for a few seconds
[23:28] <Imahilus> grub is good
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: well good for trying, but then you should partition your hard disk for a real install latero n
[23:29] <NIGGAJEWCHINK> hai guise!
[23:29] <pvtpete> ActionParsnip - hey. How can I get the diskmounter script ? the address in the documentation doesnt appear to work for me
[23:29] <Time`s_Witness> yea im trying to get to know how to get the basic comodity for it before actually moving. its not like i would feel confortable if i wouldnt know how to connect to the network for instance ;)
[23:29] <pvtpete> actionparsnip1 even :)
[23:29] <_VIM_> I'd rather see people using Ubuntu in Windows via Vmware/Vbox over that wubi thing
[23:29] <Time`s_Witness> but that's the worse case of all. just to give the example :)
[23:29] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: i'd go by functionality  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_boot_loaders
[23:29] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: oh you got wireless?
[23:29] <militant> oh fuck this
[23:29] <militant> jesus christ
[23:29] <Time`s_Witness> no, sebsebseb, so yea its automated.. i didnt know that though ;)
[23:30] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: your running wireless?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: never heard of it, just mount it yourself, if the partitions are internal then ad lines to /etc/fstab
[23:30] <pvtpete> ah
[23:30] <pvtpete> but my fstab file has been wiped actionparsnip1
[23:30] <pvtpete> it's just coming up blank
[23:31] <pvtpete> producing an error on boot that I have ton control-d
[23:31] <pvtpete> out of
[23:31] <sebsebseb> tritium: he swore yeah, but   he got annoyed with his issue.   a proper ban?
[23:31] <Time`s_Witness> no. but  i didn't know that wired is automated :) we even need to /mount some devices so ... O.o :P dunno if you have felt the weird sensation, its hard moving to somethign else when used windows for all life
[23:31] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/  doesnt exist
[23:31] <tritium> sebsebseb: yes, proper
[23:31] <dr_dasos> is there a way to make "hide join/part" in xchat the default behavior and to activate it on a channel by channel basis? ubuntu 8.10 amd64
[23:31] <pvtpete> so the documentations wrong ?
[23:31] <sebsebseb> tritium: only thing with that, if new users get banned from the suppourt channel,  that actsaully wanted help, that could put them off Ubuntu?
[23:32] <pvtpete> hmm ok
[23:32] <John_OAS> pvtpete: You should be able to create a new fstab, if the old one is truly gone.  An fstab entry is more straightforward the the script.
[23:32] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: the domain whatever you are reading doesnt exist
[23:32] <pvtpete> hmm ok
[23:32] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: they've been doing this for 4 years, im sure they must be doing something right :)
[23:32] <pvtpete> from hand
[23:33] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: yes the ethernet should just work
[23:33] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: if you want i can give you my fstab and yuo can modify it to use as your own
[23:33] <pvtpete> or is there a command for that John_OAS ? :)
[23:33] <pvtpete> ok
[23:33] <tritium> sebsebseb: he's not new.  #ubuntu-ops if you have further questions.  This is not the proper forum.
[23:33] <Steve|Office> Which package provides perlcc? apt-cache search perlcc libperl-dev but that doesn't have it. apt-file search perlcc only lists perl-doc-html
[23:33] <pvtpete> that'd be great. Thans ActionParsnip1 and John_OAS
[23:33] <pvtpete> *thanks
[23:33] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: http://pastebin.com/f74eec232
[23:33] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: you'll need   sudo fdisk -l to show partitions
[23:33] <pvtpete> ok
[23:33] <pvtpete> and then just copy and paste
[23:33] <pvtpete> right ?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: wireless is the one people tend to get issues with, hence why I was asking.  if you had wireless working in  WIndows, and you were running a virtual machine of Ubuntu, then sure it could be working, but then maybe it won't  in a proper install
[23:34] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: you wil need to change the disk uuids too
[23:34] <sebsebseb> tritium: the proper channel you meant, and indeed at that
[23:34] <tritium> sebsebseb: forum in the generic sense.
[23:34] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: and if you drive isnt /dev/sda then that will need changing
[23:34] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: and if you have your partitions ordered different, that needs changing too
[23:35] <sebsebseb> tritium: ah ok, and subject over
[23:35] <Time`s_Witness> yea, i'm aware of that sebsebseb. trying to familiarize with software, i'm aware hardware might be a different problem when in real OS so im not bothering too much for now
[23:35] <pvtpete> All of that is under fdisk -l though right ?
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: yeah  put 9.04 on for real, and do Ext4 as the partition.  Ext4 is pretty new,  no  Ext4 in 8.10
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: partition?  yes the file system for it
[23:35] <mbrigdan> Anyone know of a good stability test for ubuntu? (Similar to prime95) ?
[23:36] <pvtpete> ActionParsnip1 : Will it also preserve network shares as I'm using the machine as a backup raid device
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: 9.04 is next Ubuntu released at the end of April
[23:36] <Time`s_Witness> oh 9.04 out? didn't know O.o
[23:36] <sebsebseb> no it's not see above
[23:36] <tritium> Hi, gcleric_
[23:36] <Time`s_Witness> ah. k!
[23:36] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: folders shared on the local machine are not the responsibility of fstab
[23:37] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: if the system mounts network shares you will need to add those extra
[23:37] <Ariana> ok, have to reboot now, wish me luck
[23:37] <ii_> Have been using Ubuntu since 5.10 and there's been a common problem of BADSIGs when running apt-get update until 8.10 ... forums always have a number of posts about this error.  I recently found a webpage with a simple solution that works first time, every time.  Different to all of the other solutions posited out there.  Want to confirm with Ubuntu long-timers but no action on #ubuntu-devel - what channel should I go to?
[23:37] <Ariana> cause based on past experience, bad things happen upon reboot
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: more experiended users such as myself,  get it  early and use development versions,  but that is not recommended to new users ever!  since bugs.   Have you done Kubuntu yet by the way?  How about Xubuntu?
[23:37] <pvtpete> ActionParsnip1: to the fstab file
[23:37] <pvtpete> ?
[23:38] <Time`s_Witness> none of them sebsebseb, however if im not wrong Kubuntu is KDE based.. or more recommended for KDE users. i dont like KDE. I like gnome :P
[23:38] <Time`s_Witness> dont know about Xubuntu
[23:39] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: you can automount network shares with fstab, if the system you are giving the new fstab to is only sharing folders then fstab is no part of that
[23:39] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: I don't like KDE4 as a GUI,  KDE3 was nice, but sadly they don't make that anymore :(  KDE3 been around for years very nice and stable.   it's not an option in 8.10 though from the repo.  can have both from repo in 8.04.   I do however like some of KDE's apps that I will run in Gnome :)   Xubuntu is like a light waight version of Gnome,  check it out
[23:40] <Time`s_Witness> hmm okay :) Thanks for the info sebsebseb. will take a look :P
[23:40] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: Xubuntu uses XFCE,  XFCE is only really a windowmanager/gui   however  if you do this in terminal:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  that will put  XFCE on as well as  nice apps such as Abiword,  which could be just run in Gnome or KDE anyway
[23:40] <mustangg> sebsebseb - is ext4 really ready? I thought that team discovered a serious data loss situation. fixed?
[23:40] <pvtpete> ActionParsnip1 : so not fstab then :)
[23:40] <sebsebseb> mustangg: yes I read about that, but  I think that's  nearly fixed now
[23:40] <Greencoat421> I'm looking for help creating an ethernet bridge, this is my setup: xbox 360<--wired connection-->Ubuntu Desktop<--wireless connection<--wireless router
[23:41] <Greencoat421> I've already tried brctl but it doesn't seem to work
[23:41] <sebsebseb> mustangg: find out more about Ext4  and Jaunty in  #ubuntu+1   ,because to much of that here, would be off topic
[23:41] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: no the config will be in /etc/samba/smb.conf if you use samba or wherever else if you use other sharing technologies
[23:41] <nubuntu> does anybody know about Back|Track 4?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: fstab is not used to configure folder sharing on a system
[23:41] <sebsebseb> nubuntu: yes,  not got it yet though
[23:42] <pvtpete> ok, Thanks a bunch ActionParsnip1 :)
[23:42] <pvtpete> I'll give it a go
[23:42] <Greencoat421> Can anyone help with the ethernet bridge?
[23:42] <Gnea> Greencoat421: what do you need the bridge for, exactly?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: heh I could tell you loads of good apps to install :)
[23:42] <Time`s_Witness> why doesn't my amsn plus show near clock anymore ? :S I Could "hide" it there instead of having it at "toolbar" lol
[23:42] <mustangg> sebsebseb think I will :)
[23:43] <Greencoat421> I'm looking for help creating an ethernet bridge, this is my setup: xbox 360<--wired connection-->Ubuntu Desktop<--wireless connection<--wireless router
[23:43] <Imahilus> I'm having network lag every now and again under ubuntu 8.10.. anybody have any idea why this is? or how to fix? searched quite a bit, couldn't find relevant topics
[23:43] <Gnea> Greencoat421: okay, you just repeated, which doesn't answer the question.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip1> Time`s_Witness: use alltray maybe
[23:43] <cached> so... what exactly does it mean if i get a seg fault on apt-get?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip1> cached: funky memory use usually
[23:44] <cached> ActionParsnip1: what can i do to fix it?
[23:44] <Greencoat421> Gnea: I have my xbox and ubuntu desktop in my room
[23:44] <Time`s_Witness> alltray is usefull =D Thanks ActionParsnip1
[23:44] <Greencoat421> right next to each other
[23:44] <zocker> Hi
[23:44] <ActionParsnip1> cached: try: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[23:44] <the-newby> hy,all
[23:44] <ActionParsnip1> !fixapt
[23:44] <Gnea> Greencoat421: are you trying to assume that I'm suuposed to automatically understand what you're trying to do?
[23:44] <Greencoat421> the dekstop connects to a wireless router
[23:44] <Greencoat421> I want to share that connection with my xbox
[23:44] <ActionParsnip1> !ics
[23:44] <bertolo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1103472
[23:44] <Gnea> Greencoat421: then why do you need an ethernet bridge? why not just use NAT?
[23:45] <sebsebseb> Greencoat421: your in the wrong channel, unless you watn to run Ubuntu on your Xbox :D  which I think can be done yes
[23:45] <Greencoat421> because I don't know what I'm doing
[23:45] <bertolo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1103472
[23:45] <bertolo> comment plz
[23:45] <Gnea> okay, now we're getting somewhere
[23:45] <Greencoat421> all I want to do is connect to xbox live
[23:45] <sebsebseb> Gnea: he is off topic see
[23:45] <sebsebseb> Gnea: he is in wrong channel
[23:45] <Gnea> sebsebseb: incorrect.
[23:45] <Gnea> sebsebseb: he wants to use his ubuntu system to connect his 360 to the internet. that is not offtopic.
[23:46] <epc1> hello
[23:46] <sebsebseb> Gnea: ok I missed that bit, yep that's not off top ic
[23:46] <Greencoat421> the last person told me to use brctl
[23:46] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: 64bit linux can access terrabytes of ram
[23:46] <Greencoat421> but I think ndiswrapper is messing it up
[23:47] <Greencoat421> I know pretty much nothing about networking
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Greencoat421: Ndiswrapper is for  WIndows drivers
[23:47] <Gnea> Greencoat421: okay, first of all, you don't need an ethernet bridge for this. a much better guide (and detailed, at that) is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713874
[23:47] <nickolas> does xna studio work with mono?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: there is an open office repo which will give you latest open office
[23:47] <swayed> Anyone have a suggestion for a good virus app for ubuntu that has gui ? I would like to use it to check some windows apps I download before moving them to a usb tumb drive ? ?
[23:47] <sebsebseb> nickolas: maybe maybe not
[23:47] <sebsebseb> nickolas: try #mono
[23:47] <nickolas> okay
[23:47] <Greencoat421> ok I will read, and post if I run into any trouble
[23:47] <swayed> *thumb
[23:47] <anarchomaniac> anyone here good with ndiswrapper?
[23:47] <Imahilus> note: guildwars looks 'properly' under ubuntu, yet has blocky textures under windows.. and some say it shouldn't be considered platinum status....
[23:47] <anarchomaniac> if so please pm
[23:48] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1, tell the repo, and i am using 32bits
[23:48] <sebsebseb> anarchomaniac: ndiswrapper
[23:48] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: i've never seen the busybox thing people go on about, remember to md5 check your iso's and also check your cds are consistant once burned
[23:48] <Gnea> Greencoat421: good luck (btw, I've used an ubuntu router to get a 360 to connect to the 'net, so I know that it works)
[23:48] <sebsebseb> anarchomaniac: should be a last resort.  native Linux drivers first if available :)
[23:48] <anarchomaniac> I know, but
[23:48] <anarchomaniac> i'm doing ndiswrapper until i can do that
[23:48] <Greencoat421> ok thanks GNea
[23:48] <anarchomaniac> i REALLY don't feel like doing the native thing right now
[23:48] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: 32bit OSes can only access 4Gb RAM (server can access slightly more)  2^32  do the maths
[23:48] <sebsebseb> anarchomaniac: ok Linux newbies
[23:48] <anarchomaniac> sebsebseb: can you help? i KNOW native is better :P
[23:49] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1, lol my windowsxp can access more than 4gb
[23:49] <Gnea> Greencoat421: if it gets confusing, this might help as well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530623
[23:49] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: you can also instal any DEYou wish. gnome is default in Ubuntu but    ubuntu use kde, you can also instal fluxbox, lxde, enlightenment, Openbox
[23:49] <anarchomaniac_> okay
[23:50] <sebsebseb> anarchomaniac:  yeah maybe
[23:50] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1, read my ps commentary
[23:50] <anarchomaniac_> i'm on gnome now :/
[23:50] <anarchomaniac_> wait
[23:50] <epc1> hello
[23:50] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: then its gonna use PAE or be 64bit
[23:50] <anarchomaniac_> let me close chatzilla
[23:50] <seanos_s> hi guys, trying to set up crontab... I have a bash script that works when run from the command line, I've added a line to crontab (using crontab -e) to run the script every minute, but its doing nothing. any ideas?
[23:50] <epc1> hi im a girl
[23:50] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1,  you are talking chinese to me
[23:50] <Hammerjak> seanos_s,  what does the cron entry look like?
[23:50] <bertolo> thats a ubuntu community big ishue
[23:50] <bertolo> issue
[23:50] <epc1> hello
[23:50] <sebsebseb> epc1: really???
[23:50] <seanos_s> 01 * * * * /home/sean/djcode/spanschools/hello_world.sh
[23:51] <epc1> anyone want to talk
[23:51] <the-newby> hy, since i am new to ubuntu, i am not sure , how to find out, which libraries are installed or not.
[23:51] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: this is my point, you've ranted on aforum but dont sem to be clued up so much
[23:51] <sebsebseb> epc1: I  think your a boy really
[23:51] <Hammerjak> seanos_s, doesn't that only run at the first minute of every hour?
[23:51] <seanos_s> Hammerjak: 01 * * * * /home/sean/djcode/spanschools/hello_world.sh
[23:51] <Hammerjak> seanos_s, i think you want 0-60 in that first field
[23:51] <seanos_s> hammerjak: great point
[23:51] <seanos_s> thanks
[23:51] <Hammerjak> np
[23:51] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: Ubuntu is hugely customisable and changable so most of what you have put can be overcome
[23:51] <the-newby> i like to install latest gambas2 , but certain libs are required.
[23:51] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1, i am not clued and i used ubuntu for a long time. that's another issue
[23:52] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: you'l also find IBM and Dell are offering Linux systems and Netboks use it due toits small footprint
[23:52] <the-newby> may someone pls give me an idea , how to "read" installed libs ?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip1> the-newby: define "read"
[23:52] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1, that's one of the reasons why i love ubuntu so much
[23:53] <sebsebseb> !community |  bertolo
[23:53] <the-newby> ok, i want to find out, if the required libraries are installed already.
[23:53] <sebsebseb> bertolo: what's your problem?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: its the same for all linux distros and BSDtoo
[23:53] <lifi_> hey, i just installed jaunty with fglrx and dual-head. got no problems, till i tried to activate xinerama. pc hangs up when it tries to start X. anyone in here with a working dual-head conf and could help me out
[23:53] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty | lifi
[23:53] <the-newby> so i should "ask the system, about a list of installed libs, so i can compare..."
[23:53] <lifi_> ActionParsnip1, thx
[23:54] <sebsebseb> bertolo: Linux is about sharing code  and information
[23:54] <sebsebseb> bertolo: Linux  distributions are about sharing and being a community
[23:54] <jm> hola a todos
[23:54] <ActionParsnip1> the-newby: dpkg -l | grep lib
[23:54] <oCean_> the-newby: when installing from the repositories, all necessary dependencies are installed also
[23:54] <epc1> you guys ever talk
[23:54] <bertolo> sebastien, ineed :)
[23:55] <sebsebseb> bertolo: well  I  haven't seen most of the stuff  you said,  but seems you want to know  more about community?
[23:55] <bertolo> sebastien, indeed :)
[23:55] <epc1> you guys are stupid
[23:55] <oCean_> the-newby: just install gambas2 from the repos
[23:55] <the-newby> oh, very short, i will try right away, thx for the moment,bye for now.
[23:55] <the-newby> uupps,
[23:55] <sebsebseb> epc1: no we are amazing
[23:55] <ActionParsnip1> epc1: do you have an ubuntu question?
[23:55] <bertolo> sebastien,  i want to share my opinioon with u. lol
[23:55] <the-newby> no, sir,
[23:55] <epc1> you guys are bitches
[23:55] <the-newby> the version in the repos is overaged,,,
[23:55] <ActionParsnip1> epc1: are you going to be constructive or are you just here to troll?
[23:55] <the-newby> act-version=2.12
[23:55] <sebsebseb> epc1: ah yes I remember being 15
[23:56] <sebsebseb> epc1: years old
[23:56] <M4d3L> I have a memory problem with this script : http://paste2.org/p/169330 something in the loop is not wipe after each loop. end the script go out of memory after 1200 entry when I  have 7000 entry to loop.
[23:56] <the-newby> repo-vers: 2.7
[23:56] <epc1> what
[23:56] <epc1> your wierd
[23:56] <ActionParsnip1> epc1: do you have an ubuntu question?
[23:56] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: nope he is here to troll
[23:56] <ActionParsnip1> epc1: its YOU'RE weird
[23:56] <epc1> no
[23:56] <ActionParsnip1> epc1: if you must insult, use correct grammar
[23:56] <LjL> epc1, do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[23:56] <M4d3L> miss channel
[23:57] <LjL> no? ok
[23:57] <John_OAS> epc1, there are far better IRC channels for mindless chat. This is cetainly not the place.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip1> LjL: i asked that too, maybe your packets are better than mine ;)
[23:57] <eseven3> OMG thank you ActionParsnip1 that "your" business drives me insane :)
[23:57] <ActionParsnip1> eseven3: its hilarious
[23:57] <sebsebseb> LjL:  thanks, and his trolling wasn't even funny
[23:58] <ActionParsnip1> eseven3: I usualy say: my weird what?, runs for a bus?
[23:58] <the-newby> @o¢ean: or do you have an reliable repo for 2.12 of Gambas ?
[23:58] <John_OAS> Can anyone suggest why my logins are failing from all consoles.  Disk space is fine.  Boot from live CD is fine.
[23:58] <melik> can i use fsck to check a NTFS filesystem?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip1> John_OAS: keyboard language maybe
[23:59] <rww> melik: no
[23:59] <melik> how can i fix a NTFS filesystem through linux?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip1> John_OAS: type your password as your username but dont press enter to check the chars display correctly
[23:59] <John_OAS> Action, wouldn't that give me a password fail message?