[01:28] <gnx_> anyone awake able to possibly help me figure out this screensaver problem?
[01:31] <cody-somerville> sure
[01:31] <gnx_> i just installed xubuntu, first time using this distro, im on an old 600mhz celeron with 256mb ram
[01:32] <gnx_> pretty satisfied thus far, but i wanted to disable the screensaver, and in the process i clicked on one to preview it but it locks up or makes my display unusable
[01:33] <gnx_> and everytime i try to go back to disable it, it has that screensaver, selected...and so i cant even go to the screensaver settings dialog without a problem now
[01:33] <gnx_> is there a file somewhere i can edit?
[02:50] <zChris> Is there any equilivant to rainlendar for linux ?
[03:17] <AwayML> I'm getting this error during my installs - i've tried different CDs, even different flavors of ubuntu, but it keeps happening. any ideas? - http://pastie.org/423216
[03:27] <AwayML> this is telling too - http://pastie.org/423219
[03:27] <AwayML> apt-get and aptitude both fail on openoffice.org-help-en-us
[05:30] <samsabra> hello
[05:30] <samsabra> can I run Xubuntu on an old Fujistu laptop P2 366Mhz with 94MB of RAM?
[05:32] <forces> samsabra, yes
[05:32] <forces> but not live cd
[05:32] <forces> you must install with alternative cd
[05:33] <samsabra> the website says: Once installed, Xubuntu can run with starting from 192 (or even just 128) MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 256 MB RAM.
[05:33] <samsabra> can I actually use it with 64MB of ram after install?
[05:33] <samsabra> lol
[05:35] <forces> samsabra, yes
[05:36] <forces> samsabra, use xubuntu 8.04 LTS
[05:36] <samsabra> cool, thanks
[05:36] <forces> its more stable
[05:38] <samsabra> thanks and have a great day
[07:00] <XNMNK> hello
[07:01] <XNMNK> I'm trying to install xubuntu 8.10 from a usb-stick
[07:01] <XNMNK> and have a problem
[07:02] <XNMNK> my notebook has no cd-rom, but installer wants to find it
[07:03] <XNMNK> i've tried to mount a fake cd-rom from a console but installer says it can't read files from it
[07:06] <zoredache> what method did you use to prepare your usb stick?
[07:12] <XNMNK> unetbootin 3.19
[07:16] <zoredache> hrm...  I have never used that.  I usually just write the hd net-boot image to a usb disk.
[07:17] <zoredache> The drawback is, that you must have a wired network card that is supported by the kernel, and you have to wipe the contents of the usb key.
[07:40] <XNMNK> tried another way of creating usb-stick: made it bootable with syslinux and put vmlinuz, initrd.gz, syslinux.cfg and *.iso
[07:41] <XNMNK> same problem - "failed to copy a file"
[07:41] <knome> XNMNK, have you tried the usb-creator?
[07:44] <XNMNK> nope. I'm under windows now. I've tried to put live-cd on the stick. it boots and works well but can't install itself on hard drive
[07:47] <knome> XNMNK, please use the usb creator, if you explicitly need to install from usb
[07:48] <vargo> hi
[07:48] <vargo> how can i install xfce 4.6 on xubuntu?
[07:49] <XNMNK> knome: will try
[07:50] <knome> vargo, xfce 4.6 will be by default on jaunty. there is some ppa's for intrepid but i'm not sure if any of them has 4.6 final
[07:51] <vargo> i added launchpad repisotory
[07:51] <vargo> i got 4.591 beta
[07:51] <vargo> got little bit frustrated :(
[07:51] <knome> jaunty will be out in a month
[07:52] <vargo> do u think amarok 2.0 is bundled too?
[07:52] <knome> it is in the junaty repos, yes.
[07:52] <knome> *jaunty
[07:53] <vargo> alright, thanks
[09:58] <MoonTiger> hi :)
[10:47] <Shooree> is the Settings Manager>Autostarted apps the only way to execute autostart stuff? I can't seem to make this work for manual entries, not even to startup conky with an initial sleep period. Where can I go wrong with it?
[11:05] <MoonTiger> you can add a link in the startup folders to a script / app
[11:50] <vojacekj_> hi, i have problems with genius g-pen 450 under xubuntu 8.10 can someone help me?
[12:24] <Slonkie> How do i connect to one of my windows shares?
[12:24] <Slonkie> Should i use samba?
[12:24] <vinnl> !pyneighborhood
[12:25] <vinnl> Hmm... I don't really either, except that that supposedly allows you to do that ;-)
[12:25] <vinnl> And I also just installed thunar-shares-plugin, but it looks like that only allows you to share your own folders
[12:27] <Slonkie> so it finds my PC, but fails to mount my folder
[12:27] <Slonkie> pyneighborhood that is :P
[12:29] <vinnl> Slonkie, hmm, you might need to read this post first: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/02/easy-samba-browsing-with-xubuntu-feisty.html
[12:32] <Slonkie> That dident help :(
[12:33] <vinnl> Then I don't know what to do either... If I ever get myself a laptop I might set this up for myself, but until then, I've got zero experience with home networking...
[12:33] <Slonkie> all right
[12:33] <Slonkie> Thanks anyway :p
[12:34] <vinnl> No problem :P
[12:51] <Dillizar> if i install compiz and other effects how heavier will the xubuntu be
[12:52] <vinnl> In what units? ;-)
[12:53] <Dillizar> vinnl, that question was for me ??
[12:53] <vinnl> Dillizar, yes
[12:53] <Dillizar> dunno
[12:53] <Dillizar> will it ask more ram ?
[12:53] <Dillizar> or more cpu
[12:54] <vinnl> Yes, both
[12:54] <Dillizar> DAMN
[12:54] <Dillizar> a lot more?? :)
[12:54] <vinnl> Well, you can expect that, it's just another piece of software you're running, and obviously heavier than the low-on-effects-window managers
[12:54] <vinnl> Not *that* much
[12:54] <vinnl> I don't know how much you can miss :P
[12:56] <Dillizar> hmmm
[12:56] <Dillizar> damn
[12:56] <Dillizar> vinnl, tell me is xfce based on gnome ?
[12:57] <vinnl> Dillizar, no... But it has some parts in common and Xubuntu also ships GNOME parts to complement Xfce
[12:57] <Dillizar> so its not striped GNOME
[12:58] <vinnl> No, definitely not
[12:58] <Dillizar> k
[12:59] <Dillizar> cuz i was choosing between xfce and lxde and xfce looks like gnome and lxde looks like KDE
[13:00] <vinnl> Well... You shouldn't really judge them like that. I'd recommend you to just try both, as they're both free of charge ;-)
[13:00] <Dillizar> lol not to me
[13:00] <Dillizar> :)
[13:00] <vinnl> Why's that?
[13:00] <Dillizar> i have limit of 25gb per month
[13:01] <Dillizar> to download :)
[13:01] <vinnl> Ah
[13:01] <vinnl> Hmm yeah, that's a bummer
[13:01] <Dillizar> :P
[13:01] <Dillizar> i have another alternative
[13:01] <Dillizar> but i need to wait 3months
[13:01] <Dillizar> any who i have 9.04
[13:02] <Dillizar> ubuntu and the install xfce
[13:02] <Dillizar> :P
[13:10] <Besogon> Does anybody know about writing a formula in ABIWORD? (If you undestand me)
[13:10] <vinnl> I believe you could use LaTeX for that
[13:11] <vinnl> Ah, and also MathML
[13:11] <vinnl> See Insert->Equation
[13:12] <Besogon> Shoud I install it before?
[13:13] <vinnl> I believe if you have Abiword you don't need to install anything to be able to use LaTeX
[13:18] <Besogon> vinnl, where can I past a image?
[13:18] <vinnl> !imagebin
[13:19] <vinnl> :)
[13:22] <Besogon> vinnl, http://imagebin.org/42279 look at that. So I havnt help for LateX. (and I cant work with it)
[13:24] <vinnl> Yeah you need to know how to use LaTeX, it doesn't have a graphical way of clicking them together... I managed to do it a while ago by Googling the specific signs I needed to know. There might be another utilllity that allows you to click together LaTeX formulas though
[13:24] <vinnl> !latex
[13:29] <Besogon> O my got. Why is it so difficalt in linux way... but , thanks whether or no
[13:30] <vinnl> Well, that's Abiword
[13:31] <vinnl> You can't really blame Linux in general for that... Perhaps OpenOffice.org has a better interface
[13:34] <Besogon> vinnl, I know that. But I have just interest about  abiword. (Really I need use only MS word in my university)
[13:34] <vinnl> Besogon, if you have a license for MS Word, you can use that on Xubuntu. Not that easy, but not really difficult either
[13:35] <vinnl> If it's *really* necessary, that's always an option ;-)
[13:37] <Besogon> I havnt a license MS Word, but I'm still using it. :)) (MS office XP).
[13:39] <vinnl> Obviously, I'm going to say here you shouldn't :)
[13:40] <Besogon> and MS equation 3.0 is terrible. That is not my fault.
[13:45] <Besogon> vinnl, And I tell you, that almost all Russia not use a license software. :)
[13:45] <vinnl> That doesn't justify it ;-)
[13:46] <vinnl> Besogon, anyway, I just found the KFormula application which appears to allow you to click together a formula and export it to LaTeX, which you could then use in Abiword :)
[13:46] <Besogon> great
[13:48] <Besogon> thanks again. I will remember that. I going to vacuum my room.
[13:48] <vinnl> Have fun :P
[13:49] <vojacekj> hi everyone
[13:50] <vinnl> Hey vojacekj
[13:50] <vojacekj> i have 1 problem
[13:51] <vojacekj> i have problem with genius g-pen 450...xibuntu 8.10 can not deteced it
[13:51] <vojacekj> can someone help me?
[13:52] <vinnl> What kind of a device is it?
[13:52] <vojacekj> it tablet
[13:52] <vinnl> !tablet
[13:53] <vojacekj> ok thanks
[13:53] <vojacekj> and don't you know someone who know something about it?
[13:54] <vinnl> ubottu is just a bot, I was querying its fact database to see if there was anything on tables on it ;-)
[13:54] <vinnl> See? ;-)
[13:54] <vinnl> Anyway, I don't know anything about tablets, but this page might be of help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetup
[13:55] <vojacekj> thanks i will see it
[14:16] <noob_M> helo
[14:16] <vinnl> Hey
[14:16] <noob_M> i want to learn xubuntu
[14:16] <noob_M> where do i start?
[14:17] <noob_M> i have no knowledge on linux
[14:17] <noob_M> :(
[14:17] <vinnl> noob_M, there's excellent documentation included in Xubuntu
[14:17] <vinnl> Have you already installed it?
[14:17] <noob_M> im downloading
[14:17] <noob_M> 3$
[14:17] <noob_M> 3%
[14:17] <noob_M> hehehe
[14:17] <noob_M> what is the basic command for linux?
[14:17] <vinnl> What do you mean with "basic command"?
[14:18] <noob_M> you type on the terminal
[14:18] <vinnl> Why would you do that?
[14:18] <noob_M> no need?
[14:18] <vinnl> Nope
[14:18] <noob_M> i thought terminal is for installation?
[14:18] <noob_M> instal plugin? configure?
[14:19] <gorgut> xubuntu install is graphical
[14:19] <noob_M> ic
[14:19] <noob_M> like windows?
[14:19] <vinnl> No, when you use the Desktop CD, you run a kind of test version of Xubuntu from that CD, and you can then double-click the "Install" icon on the desktop to start the installation
[14:19] <vinnl> So that's a bit different from (easier than :) Windows
[14:19] <noob_M> ic
[14:20] <noob_M> i can install xubuntun on windows?
[14:20] <noob_M> or clean installation?
[14:20] <vinnl> I'd go for a clean installation
[14:20] <noob_M> boot from cd?
[14:20] <noob_M> sample i got windows on the hard drive
[14:20] <vinnl> Yes, you insert the CD-ROM in your CD-ROM-drive, then restart your computer
[14:20] <noob_M> i want to put xubuntu
[14:20] <vinnl> Do you want to keep Windows?
[14:20] <noob_M> nope
[14:20] <noob_M> delete windows
[14:20] <vinnl> Great, that's easiest :)
[14:21] <noob_M> install fresh copy of xubuntu?
[14:21] <vinnl> Yes
[14:21] <vinnl> What file exactly are you downloading?
[14:21] <noob_M> xubuntux-8.10desktop-386.iso
[14:21] <noob_M> my processor is single core
[14:21] <noob_M> sempron 1.6
[14:22] <noob_M> i dont need 64bit xubuntu?
[14:22] <vinnl> OK, do you know how to burn that to a CD?
[14:22] <noob_M> yes
[14:22] <vinnl> I don't think so
[14:22] <noob_M> ok
[14:22] <vinnl> Great, if you do that, you'll just need to insert that in the drive and reboot the computer, then it'll mostly speak for itself
[14:22] <noob_M> ic
[14:23] <noob_M> what is the diference between ubuntu and xbuntu?
[14:23] <sancas> noob_M, the diference is that xfce use ar xfce and ubuntu use gnome
[14:24] <sancas> xfce is more for pc low
[14:24] <vinnl> Well, they mostly come with a whole different standard selection of software and themes, but you'll be able to install everything you install in one in the other as well
[14:24] <sancas> gnome thats ritgh for new pcs
[14:24] <sancas> *slow
[14:24] <noob_M> a ok
[14:24] <noob_M> the interface is still the same?
[14:25] <vinnl> No
[14:25] <noob_M> feature no same too?
[14:25] <noob_M> i heard counterstrike can play on linux
[14:25] <vinnl> Nope, but if you miss a feature in Xubuntu that is in Ubuntu you *can* install that afterwards :)
[14:25] <noob_M> cs can play on xubuntu?
[14:25] <noob_M> oic
[14:25] <vinnl> Probably, let me check (not that easy though)
[14:25] <noob_M> it comes on the basic?
[14:26] <noob_M> i can add features from ubuntu?
[14:26] <vinnl> Ah, yes, you can play CS
[14:26] <vinnl> And yes, sort of ;-)
[14:26] <noob_M> i want to learn how to manage files on linux
[14:26] <noob_M> i notice no file extension on linux?
[14:27] <noob_M> sample exe, com, jpg?
[14:27] <noob_M> dll
[14:27] <noob_M> dll files
[14:27] <vinnl> Often files do have a file extension but in theory it's not necessary
[14:27] <noob_M> how can i distinguish each files?
[14:27] <noob_M> i only heard linux
[14:27] <noob_M> but never tried to use it
[14:27] <noob_M> hehe
[14:27] <vinnl> dll files are only sometimes needed if you're trying to run Windows stuff, but that's quite advanced
[14:28] <vinnl> Heh, you distinguish between them just as in Windows: looking at the icons ;-)
[14:28] <noob_M> what is the icon of system files in linux?
[14:28] <vinnl> What do you mean by system files?
[14:28] <noob_M> like windows
[14:29] <noob_M> in windows is in on the folder c:windows
[14:29] <vinnl> What do you do with system files in Windows?
[14:29] <noob_M> how about in linux?
[14:29] <vinnl> Ah, well...
[14:29] <Pho75> Hi all. I'm playing with xfce 4.4. Does anyone know why thunar doesn't obey the gtk theme as far as the scrollbar goes. I personally can't stand any gtk theme that prevents me from using the right edge of my screen to control the scrollbar, but no matter what theme i choose, thunar keeps that stupid thick-ass border. is there some hidden config option somewhere I can use to make the...
[14:29] <Pho75> ...thickness 0 or are u stuck with it? i'd love to replace nautilus but that border is always a deal-breaker for me with any app/theme.
[14:29] <vinnl> In Linux, there's no different "C:" and "D:" and whatnot drives
[14:30] <noob_M> ha?
[14:30] <vinnl> It's just all under "/", so you got for example "/tmp" for temporary files, "/home/vincent" for my user account
[14:30] <vinnl> You'll mostly be concerned with the files in your user account
[14:30] <noob_M> ic
[14:30] <noob_M> u type in on the terminal window?
[14:31] <vinnl> No
[14:31] <noob_M> where/
[14:31] <vinnl> You really don't need the terminal as much as you think
[14:31] <noob_M> oic
[14:31] <vinnl> They're on your desktop, for example :)
[14:31] <noob_M> i want to play on the terminal window
[14:31] <noob_M> browse files on linux
[14:32] <noob_M> hehe
[14:32] <vinnl> noob_M, look, this is how you browse files in Xubuntu: http://thunar.xfce.org/images/filewindow-1.png
[14:33] <noob_M> what is m4 file extension?
[14:33] <vinnl> No idea
[14:33] <noob_M> ok
[14:34] <vinnl> You won't run into those anyway ;-)
[14:34] <noob_M> can i ask about ubuntu here?
[14:34] <vinnl> Preferably in #ubuntu, I don't know if we can answer it here :)
[14:34] <noob_M> i alreay had ubuntu last year i uninstall it
[14:34] <noob_M> ic
[14:34] <noob_M> same server?
[14:34] <vinnl> Yep
[14:34] <noob_M> ok thanks
[14:35] <noob_M> vinnl for u which is eaiser xubuntu or ubuntu?
[14:36] <vinnl> Ehm, well... I think Ubuntu is a little bit easier for new users
[14:36] <vinnl> But of course I'm a Xubuntu fan ;-)
[14:36] <noob_M> ic
[14:36] <noob_M> my frend recomend xubuntu too
[14:36] <noob_M> before i try ubuntu i unstall it
[14:36] <noob_M> i dont know how to configure
[14:37] <noob_M> hehehe
[14:37] <noob_M> but now i want to learn
[14:37] <noob_M> hmmmm
[14:37] <noob_M> x or u?
[14:37] <noob_M> hehehe
[14:37] <noob_M> u choose for me
[14:37] <vinnl> You can easily do both :)
[14:37] <vinnl> I'd say: if you friend recommended Xubuntu, go with that, he'll know best what suits you
[14:37] <noob_M> but u said x is for slow pc?
[14:37] <Slonkie> Anyone capable of helping me with windows shares, and how to connect the them from xubuntu?
[14:38] <vinnl> Well, that wasn't me, but... Xubuntu will run a bit better. Do you have a slow PC?
[14:38] <noob_M> athlon 1800xp
[14:38] <noob_M> 256 ram
[14:39] <noob_M> 10 gig hd
[14:39] <noob_M> is my old pc
[14:39] <noob_M> hehehe
[14:39] <noob_M> ata-66 hardisk slow
[14:39] <vinnl> Ah well then you don't want to do Ubuntu :P
[14:39] <noob_M> y?
[14:39] <noob_M> can't run 256 ram?
[14:39] <vinnl> Yeah but not pleasantly
[14:40] <vinnl> Oh wait, I don't even think it can, no
[14:40] <noob_M> only to learn the basic
[14:40] <noob_M> only to learn the basics
[14:40] <noob_M> how about 512
[14:40] <vinnl> You could, but I'd really go with Xubuntu, it's a bit faster
[14:40] <noob_M> i tried 512mb it run the ubuntu
[14:40] <vinnl> Still, though you could give Ubuntu a try then
[14:40] <noob_M> u always online?
[14:41] <vinnl> Not always, no :P
[14:41] <noob_M> oh no
[14:41] <vinnl> But there often are very helpful people over here, especially on weekdays :)
[14:41] <noob_M> ah ok
[14:41] <noob_M> im in the philipines
[14:41] <noob_M> diferent time slot
[14:41] <noob_M> in the morning here people asleep in the US
[14:41] <noob_M> lol
[14:46] <noob_M> gtg thanks for your help vinnl
[15:24] <vojacekj> hi everyone
[15:24] <gorgut> lo
[15:24] <vojacekj> vinnl are you here
[15:24] <vinnl> Hey vojacekj  :)
[15:25] <vojacekj> thanks it works
[15:25] <vojacekj> it's super
[15:25] <vinnl> Great :)
[15:25] <vojacekj> i have 1 more question, problem :D
[15:26] <vojacekj> i have problem with scanner
[15:26] <vojacekj> do you know something about it?
[15:26] <vinnl> A little, little bit
[15:26] <vojacekj> i have scanner Umax Astra 2000p
[15:27] <vojacekj> and don't u know some goog page?
[15:27] <vojacekj> *good
[15:28] <vinnl> vojacekj, perhaps this one's good: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo :)
[15:28] <vojacekj> thank u
[15:28] <vojacekj> u are great
[15:38] <vojacekj> bey meanwhile
[15:38] <vinnl> Bye
[15:39] <charlie-tca> Good Morning
[15:39] <vinnl> Hey charlie-tca
[15:39] <gorgut> lo
[16:05] <forces> :)
[16:06] <AndyML> so, apt-get -f install gives me "apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:06] <AndyML> "
[17:05] <lolTodd> I've been having a problem getting my restricted video drivers to cooperate.  I can enable and disable then fine from the panel, but they take no effect.  It was working fine prior to a power outage, but now it's about a 10% success rate when I boot up.  Suggestions?
[17:09] <xapiens> format and reinstall
[17:09] <lolTodd> Bite me.
[17:10] <TheSheep> lolTodd: dmesg says something? how about /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[17:15] <lolTodd> Checking
[17:15] <shippo> I was following this site http://layer8problem.blogspot.com/2008/10/howto-remote-desktop-to-xubuntu-710.html but when I got to vino-session it states command not found?
[17:18] <lolTodd> TheSheep: In Xorg.0.log it says "Backing store disabled.  Does that help?
[17:20] <TheSheep> no
[17:23] <lolTodd> Validated modes: "nvidia-auto-slect"  Virtual screen size determined to be 640x480.  Unable to get display device CRT-0's EDID; cannot compute DPI from CRT-0's EDID.  DPI set to (7, 75); computed from build-in default.
[17:33] <lolTodd> How about that, TheSheep?
[17:34] <TheSheep> lolTodd: looks like the driver works...
[17:35] <TheSheep> lolTodd: maybe try logs from when it's not working
[17:36] <lolTodd> TheSheep: Working or not, I'm stuck at 640x480.
[17:37] <TheSheep> lolTodd: that's because the driver couldn't read you monitor's resolution
[17:37] <TheSheep> lolTodd: try specyfying vertical and horizontal refresh rates in xorg.conf
[18:02] <chewit> does anyone know if the new notification system which is in Ubuntu 9.04 will be in Xubuntu 9.04?
[18:03] <dbdii407> I need help: When i click on a window, it wont come into focus
[18:08] <charlie-tca> chewit: I don't know now. It was called notify-osd.
[18:42] <GreedyB2> If I add a XFCE 4.6 PPA and update things is it pretty much impossible to go back if I don't like it or something doesnt work correctly?
[18:43] <jarnos> GreedyB2: It is not impossible. I have done it.
[18:46] <jarnos> GreedyB2: You can use synaptic to get list of the files installed from the PPA. Remove them in console, remove the PPA in /etc/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[18:47] <GreedyB2> I see
[18:47] <GreedyB2> Did everything work for you?
[18:47] <jarnos> GreedyB2: You mean in Xfce 4.6?
[18:47] <GreedyB2> jarnos, yeah
[18:48] <jarnos> GreedyB2: No. I had to refresh some configuration to keep the panel from freezing the computer, for instance. However, I am using it again.
[19:11] <shippo> what is the correct way to use the -unixpw option for x11vnc? or is there a website I can be pointed to?
[19:17] <Shooree> where's the setting for the number of virtual desktops? I can't seem to find it following ubuntu how-to's
[19:20] <TheSheep> Shooree: it's in settings->setting manager->workspaces and margins
[19:20] <Shooree> that's what I thought, TheSheep, but whenever I set i to 4, my Compiz cube doesn't give me more than 2
[19:21] <TheSheep> Shooree: that's because compiz is not xubuntu
[19:21] <TheSheep> Shooree: it does its own workspaces
[19:21] <Shooree> right
[19:21] <TheSheep> and has its own settings for it
[19:21] <TheSheep> !compiz | Shooree
[19:21] <Shooree> could you tell me how to enable the cube, please? All I've got now is a two-faced square
[19:22] <Shooree> oh
[19:22] <Shooree> ok
[19:22] <TheSheep> I have no idea
[19:22] <TheSheep> sorry
[19:22] <Shooree> np
[19:22] <Shooree> I'll do my homework
[19:35] <Shooree> for the record, I was just blind. it was there the whole time, the desktop size tab. I just didn't see it.
[19:42] <artistxe> any blender users here that have discovered keyboard shortcut problems ?
[19:43] <artistxe> simple fix in the xfwm4 default file. the easy click option should be set to false. this seems to go for quite a few keyboard shortcuts
[19:43] <artistxe> in other programs as well
[19:55] <TheSheep> artistxe: what does it do?
[19:59] <artistxe> what does it (what ? ) do ?
[20:00] <artistxe> changing the default ?
[20:00] <TheSheep> artistxe: I'm just wondering hwat is the problem and how that option solves it
[20:00] <TheSheep> what*
[20:01] <artistxe> oh. in blender it the default prevents you from using certain key combos in edit mode. such as Alt-rmb in editmode to select an edgeloop
[20:01] <TheSheep> rmb?
[20:02] <artistxe> originally I had thought that it was a keboard config problem in the settings.
[20:02] <artistxe> rmb = right mouse button
[20:02] <artistxe> you do not use Blender I am guessing....
[20:05] <Slonkie> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) - Anyone know how to fix this?
[20:07] <TheSheep> Slonkie: start mysql daemon
[20:07] <Slonkie> how do i do that?
[20:08] <TheSheep> artistxe: not often, but I had similar problem in Second Life, I just switched that to Super
[20:08] <TheSheep> Slonkie: wait, what are you actually trying to do?
[20:08] <Slonkie> start mysql
[20:09] <TheSheep> what for?
[20:09] <Slonkie> I need it for amarok
[20:09] <TheSheep> amarok uses mysql?
[20:09] <Slonkie> yep
[20:10] <Slonkie> well, for the collection somehow
[20:10] <TheSheep> good thing I keep away from it :)
[20:10] <TheSheep> Slonkie: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start  should start it
[20:10] <Slonkie> what would you say is better for audio playing?
[20:11] <TheSheep> I have no opinion, but there are lots of options, depending on what you need
[20:12] <Slonkie> lol
[20:15] <artistxe> Slonkie . I prefer Exaile myself.
[20:16] <Slonkie> Exaile looks god, how does it handle very big collections?
[20:18] <SiDi> Slonkie: correctly :p
[20:18] <SiDi> i use exaile, it can lag 1/2 secs if you add 1500 songs to a playlist, but once they're added it doesnt lag
[20:23] <artistxe> it also records streams , which I like :)
[20:24] <rocko> streams
[20:24] <rocko> for G
[20:24] <rocko> respect
[20:24] <artistxe> I use streamtuner to get my stations and have the preferences set up to open the streams in Exaile . from there you can record and save in the dir specified in the Exaile preferences
[20:27] <artistxe> or   .you could always rip streams from terminal using streamripper
[20:37] <jarnos> Slonkie: What I like in Amarok is global shortcuts. I also had problem with database backend, but it was a while ago.
[20:40] <jarnos> TheSheep: You can choose from several database backends when using Amarok.
[20:42] <SiDi> amarok looks badly in gtk based environments :(
[20:43] <TheSheep> jarnos: any sane reason to not use sqlite?
[20:43] <TheSheep> SiDi: not with the gtkqt qt theme
[20:44] <jarnos> SiDi: It is only cosmetic. Shortcuts work better in Xfce than in Gnome/Metacity.
[20:44] <SiDi> TheSheep: What the hell is that ? oO
[20:44]  * SiDi googling ! :o
[20:44] <jarnos> TheSheep: no idea.
[20:47] <jarnos> TheSheep: I guess anything you can use works.
[20:48] <TheSheep> SiDi: http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Styles/GtkStyle
[20:49] <TheSheep> SiDi: it would be great to have it by default in xubuntu
[20:53] <jarnos> TheSheep: Where do you get gtk2-x11-dev packages from?
[20:55] <TheSheep> jarnos: I'd guess libgtk2.0-dev
[21:11] <jarnos> TheSheep: the last command gave: "make: *** No rule to make target `checkinstall'.  Stop."
[21:12] <TheSheep> jarnos: qmake
[21:12] <TheSheep> jarnos: and then make
[21:14] <jarnos> TheSheep: yes. but the output was from "sudo make checkinstall"
[21:16] <TheSheep> jarnos: I don't follow, what did you do?
[21:17] <jarnos> TheSheep: I did what was told at http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Styles/GtkStyle
[21:17] <what_if> I have a laptop with 64mb ram in it, can I run xubuntu with a gui ?>
[21:18] <jarnos> TheSheep: The last command gave what I told above.
[21:18] <TheSheep> what_if: it's theoretically possible, but it will be so slow, that it turns out unusable
[21:19] <TheSheep> jarnos: but where did you get that command?
[21:19] <what_if> any distro you can recommend for a 64mb machine ?
[21:19] <jarnos> TheSheep: you mean "sudo make checkinstall"?
[21:19] <TheSheep> what_if: I don't know, maybe archlinux, if configured with care, or puppylinux, or dsl
[21:20] <TheSheep> jarnos: yes
[21:20] <TheSheep> jarnos: just do 'sudo checkinstall'
[21:20] <TheSheep> jarnos: after 'qmake'
[21:20] <jarnos> what_if: DeLi Linux maybe.
[21:21] <TheSheep> what_if: you should be able to get some ram for it cheaply though
[21:25] <jarnos> TheSheep: That worked. Now there is GTK GUI style in Qt configuration
[21:26] <what_if> TheSheep: max ram 192. :P
[21:26] <what_if> 300mhz, 6gb hd, 192 ram max (64 currently) not really worth the extra $$
[21:28] <knome> what_if, 192 is way better than 64. xubuntu is ok with it.
[21:29] <what_if> well, to be honest we need X and adobe acrobat. It will be way too slow...
[21:29] <knome> at least with 192 you *can* do it.
[21:29] <knome> with 64, i'm not really sure if you get a pdf reader running
[21:30] <what_if> knome: no, no pdf reading at 64 (tried)
[21:30] <what_if> I'll just add it to the toy pile, been wanting a "disposable" laptop anyways
[21:30] <knome> exactly.
[21:40] <jarnos> TheSheep: thanks. In which applications you see the difference? I can't see difference in Amrok.
[21:40] <jarnos> TheSheep: ^Amarok
[21:43] <jarnos> TheSheep: or in Kaffeine or QAmix for that matter.
[21:49] <jarnos> TheSheep: At least I can see the difference in qtconfic :)
[21:57] <jarnos> TheSheep: ^qtconfig
[22:00] <TheSheep> jussi01: try  skype --disable-cleanlooks
[22:01] <knome> TheSheep, he went.
[22:01] <TheSheep> meh
[22:18] <jussi01> spurious pings.... meh... :P
[22:30] <basajaun> hi all
[22:30] <knome> !hi | basajaun
[22:31] <basajaun> just installed xubuntu on my son's old toshiba tecra but I only get a midget screen
[22:39] <durt> basajaun,  If it's similar to my old satellite, there's a bios setting to change that.
[22:40] <basajaun> how do you do that durt?
[22:42] <durt> possibly esc or del at start up then maybe F1 to continue. If it's as old as mine. We're talking from the late 90's here.
[22:43] <Slor> toshiba - coulde be f2, f12, or something as well.
[22:44] <Slor> I forget exactly - on my toshibas, one F-key brings a startup menu and another gets me into bios.  and it always takes me a while to find the right one. :)
[22:47] <basajaun> not working  :)
[22:48] <Slor> try f1 as well.  and hit them often during the boot process.
[22:49] <Slor> all else fails, you should be able to find a manual on toshiba's website
[22:52] <basajaun> I am in
[22:52] <basajaun> what should I change?
[22:57] <basajaun> I have changed the only option for display and restarted but mo joy
[22:57] <basajaun> no joy
[23:03] <basajaun> yaye got it thank you durt and slor
[23:03] <basajaun> bye all