=== SoylentGrun is now known as gaurdro [01:28] anyone awake able to possibly help me figure out this screensaver problem? [01:31] sure [01:31] i just installed xubuntu, first time using this distro, im on an old 600mhz celeron with 256mb ram [01:32] pretty satisfied thus far, but i wanted to disable the screensaver, and in the process i clicked on one to preview it but it locks up or makes my display unusable [01:33] and everytime i try to go back to disable it, it has that screensaver, selected...and so i cant even go to the screensaver settings dialog without a problem now [01:33] is there a file somewhere i can edit? === freego is now known as forces === gorgut1 is now known as gorgut === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [02:50] Is there any equilivant to rainlendar for linux ? [03:17] I'm getting this error during my installs - i've tried different CDs, even different flavors of ubuntu, but it keeps happening. any ideas? - http://pastie.org/423216 [03:27] this is telling too - http://pastie.org/423219 [03:27] apt-get and aptitude both fail on openoffice.org-help-en-us [05:30] hello [05:30] can I run Xubuntu on an old Fujistu laptop P2 366Mhz with 94MB of RAM? [05:32] samsabra, yes [05:32] but not live cd [05:32] you must install with alternative cd [05:33] the website says: Once installed, Xubuntu can run with starting from 192 (or even just 128) MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 256 MB RAM. [05:33] can I actually use it with 64MB of ram after install? [05:33] lol [05:35] samsabra, yes [05:36] samsabra, use xubuntu 8.04 LTS [05:36] cool, thanks [05:36] its more stable [05:38] thanks and have a great day [07:00] hello [07:01] I'm trying to install xubuntu 8.10 from a usb-stick [07:01] and have a problem [07:02] my notebook has no cd-rom, but installer wants to find it [07:03] i've tried to mount a fake cd-rom from a console but installer says it can't read files from it [07:06] what method did you use to prepare your usb stick? [07:12] unetbootin 3.19 [07:16] hrm... I have never used that. I usually just write the hd net-boot image to a usb disk. [07:17] The drawback is, that you must have a wired network card that is supported by the kernel, and you have to wipe the contents of the usb key. [07:40] tried another way of creating usb-stick: made it bootable with syslinux and put vmlinuz, initrd.gz, syslinux.cfg and *.iso [07:41] same problem - "failed to copy a file" [07:41] XNMNK, have you tried the usb-creator? [07:44] nope. I'm under windows now. I've tried to put live-cd on the stick. it boots and works well but can't install itself on hard drive [07:47] XNMNK, please use the usb creator, if you explicitly need to install from usb [07:48] hi [07:48] how can i install xfce 4.6 on xubuntu? [07:49] knome: will try [07:50] vargo, xfce 4.6 will be by default on jaunty. there is some ppa's for intrepid but i'm not sure if any of them has 4.6 final [07:51] i added launchpad repisotory [07:51] i got 4.591 beta [07:51] got little bit frustrated :( [07:51] jaunty will be out in a month [07:52] do u think amarok 2.0 is bundled too? [07:52] it is in the junaty repos, yes. [07:52] *jaunty [07:53] alright, thanks [09:58] hi :) [10:47] is the Settings Manager>Autostarted apps the only way to execute autostart stuff? I can't seem to make this work for manual entries, not even to startup conky with an initial sleep period. Where can I go wrong with it? [11:05] you can add a link in the startup folders to a script / app [11:50] hi, i have problems with genius g-pen 450 under xubuntu 8.10 can someone help me? [12:24] How do i connect to one of my windows shares? [12:24] Should i use samba? [12:24] !pyneighborhood [12:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about pyneighborhood [12:25] Hmm... I don't really either, except that that supposedly allows you to do that ;-) [12:25] And I also just installed thunar-shares-plugin, but it looks like that only allows you to share your own folders [12:27] so it finds my PC, but fails to mount my folder [12:27] pyneighborhood that is :P [12:29] Slonkie, hmm, you might need to read this post first: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/02/easy-samba-browsing-with-xubuntu-feisty.html [12:32] That dident help :( [12:33] Then I don't know what to do either... If I ever get myself a laptop I might set this up for myself, but until then, I've got zero experience with home networking... [12:33] all right [12:33] Thanks anyway :p [12:34] No problem :P [12:51] if i install compiz and other effects how heavier will the xubuntu be [12:52] In what units? ;-) [12:53] vinnl, that question was for me ?? [12:53] Dillizar, yes [12:53] dunno [12:53] will it ask more ram ? [12:53] or more cpu [12:54] Yes, both [12:54] DAMN [12:54] a lot more?? :) [12:54] Well, you can expect that, it's just another piece of software you're running, and obviously heavier than the low-on-effects-window managers [12:54] Not *that* much [12:54] I don't know how much you can miss :P [12:56] hmmm [12:56] damn [12:56] vinnl, tell me is xfce based on gnome ? [12:57] Dillizar, no... But it has some parts in common and Xubuntu also ships GNOME parts to complement Xfce [12:57] so its not striped GNOME [12:58] No, definitely not [12:58] k [12:59] cuz i was choosing between xfce and lxde and xfce looks like gnome and lxde looks like KDE [13:00] Well... You shouldn't really judge them like that. I'd recommend you to just try both, as they're both free of charge ;-) [13:00] lol not to me [13:00] :) [13:00] Why's that? [13:00] i have limit of 25gb per month [13:01] to download :) [13:01] Ah [13:01] Hmm yeah, that's a bummer [13:01] :P [13:01] i have another alternative [13:01] but i need to wait 3months [13:01] any who i have 9.04 [13:02] ubuntu and the install xfce [13:02] :P [13:10] Does anybody know about writing a formula in ABIWORD? (If you undestand me) [13:10] I believe you could use LaTeX for that [13:11] Ah, and also MathML [13:11] See Insert->Equation [13:12] Shoud I install it before? [13:13] I believe if you have Abiword you don't need to install anything to be able to use LaTeX [13:18] vinnl, where can I past a image? [13:18] !imagebin [13:19] Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add and link it from the channel. [13:19] :) [13:22] vinnl, http://imagebin.org/42279 look at that. So I havnt help for LateX. (and I cant work with it) [13:24] Yeah you need to know how to use LaTeX, it doesn't have a graphical way of clicking them together... I managed to do it a while ago by Googling the specific signs I needed to know. There might be another utilllity that allows you to click together LaTeX formulas though [13:24] !latex [13:24] tex is a language for describing a document, commonly used especially for scientific publishing. Information and instructions for installing TeX and other related packages can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX [13:29] O my got. Why is it so difficalt in linux way... but , thanks whether or no [13:30] Well, that's Abiword [13:31] You can't really blame Linux in general for that... Perhaps OpenOffice.org has a better interface [13:34] vinnl, I know that. But I have just interest about abiword. (Really I need use only MS word in my university) [13:34] Besogon, if you have a license for MS Word, you can use that on Xubuntu. Not that easy, but not really difficult either [13:35] If it's *really* necessary, that's always an option ;-) [13:37] I havnt a license MS Word, but I'm still using it. :)) (MS office XP). [13:39] Obviously, I'm going to say here you shouldn't :) [13:40] and MS equation 3.0 is terrible. That is not my fault. [13:45] vinnl, And I tell you, that almost all Russia not use a license software. :) [13:45] That doesn't justify it ;-) [13:46] Besogon, anyway, I just found the KFormula application which appears to allow you to click together a formula and export it to LaTeX, which you could then use in Abiword :) [13:46] great [13:48] thanks again. I will remember that. I going to vacuum my room. [13:48] Have fun :P [13:49] hi everyone [13:50] Hey vojacekj [13:50] i have 1 problem [13:51] i have problem with genius g-pen 450...xibuntu 8.10 can not deteced it [13:51] can someone help me? [13:52] What kind of a device is it? [13:52] it tablet [13:52] !tablet [13:52] Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet [13:53] ok thanks [13:53] and don't you know someone who know something about it? [13:54] ubottu is just a bot, I was querying its fact database to see if there was anything on tables on it ;-) [13:54] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:54] See? ;-) [13:54] Anyway, I don't know anything about tablets, but this page might be of help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetup [13:55] thanks i will see it [14:16] helo [14:16] Hey [14:16] i want to learn xubuntu [14:16] where do i start? [14:17] i have no knowledge on linux [14:17] :( [14:17] noob_M, there's excellent documentation included in Xubuntu [14:17] Have you already installed it? [14:17] im downloading [14:17] 3$ [14:17] 3% [14:17] hehehe [14:17] what is the basic command for linux? [14:17] What do you mean with "basic command"? [14:18] you type on the terminal [14:18] Why would you do that? [14:18] no need? [14:18] Nope [14:18] i thought terminal is for installation? [14:18] instal plugin? configure? [14:19] xubuntu install is graphical [14:19] ic [14:19] like windows? [14:19] No, when you use the Desktop CD, you run a kind of test version of Xubuntu from that CD, and you can then double-click the "Install" icon on the desktop to start the installation [14:19] So that's a bit different from (easier than :) Windows [14:19] ic [14:20] i can install xubuntun on windows? [14:20] or clean installation? [14:20] I'd go for a clean installation [14:20] boot from cd? [14:20] sample i got windows on the hard drive [14:20] Yes, you insert the CD-ROM in your CD-ROM-drive, then restart your computer [14:20] i want to put xubuntu [14:20] Do you want to keep Windows? [14:20] nope [14:20] delete windows [14:20] Great, that's easiest :) [14:21] install fresh copy of xubuntu? [14:21] Yes [14:21] What file exactly are you downloading? [14:21] xubuntux-8.10desktop-386.iso [14:21] my processor is single core [14:21] sempron 1.6 [14:22] i dont need 64bit xubuntu? [14:22] OK, do you know how to burn that to a CD? [14:22] yes [14:22] I don't think so [14:22] ok [14:22] Great, if you do that, you'll just need to insert that in the drive and reboot the computer, then it'll mostly speak for itself [14:22] ic [14:23] what is the diference between ubuntu and xbuntu? [14:23] noob_M, the diference is that xfce use ar xfce and ubuntu use gnome [14:24] xfce is more for pc low [14:24] Well, they mostly come with a whole different standard selection of software and themes, but you'll be able to install everything you install in one in the other as well [14:24] gnome thats ritgh for new pcs [14:24] *slow [14:24] a ok [14:24] the interface is still the same? [14:25] No [14:25] feature no same too? [14:25] i heard counterstrike can play on linux [14:25] Nope, but if you miss a feature in Xubuntu that is in Ubuntu you *can* install that afterwards :) [14:25] cs can play on xubuntu? [14:25] oic [14:25] Probably, let me check (not that easy though) [14:25] it comes on the basic? [14:26] i can add features from ubuntu? [14:26] Ah, yes, you can play CS [14:26] And yes, sort of ;-) [14:26] i want to learn how to manage files on linux [14:26] i notice no file extension on linux? [14:27] sample exe, com, jpg? [14:27] dll [14:27] dll files [14:27] Often files do have a file extension but in theory it's not necessary [14:27] how can i distinguish each files? [14:27] i only heard linux [14:27] but never tried to use it [14:27] hehe [14:27] dll files are only sometimes needed if you're trying to run Windows stuff, but that's quite advanced [14:28] Heh, you distinguish between them just as in Windows: looking at the icons ;-) [14:28] what is the icon of system files in linux? [14:28] What do you mean by system files? [14:28] like windows [14:29] in windows is in on the folder c:windows [14:29] What do you do with system files in Windows? [14:29] how about in linux? [14:29] Ah, well... [14:29] Hi all. I'm playing with xfce 4.4. Does anyone know why thunar doesn't obey the gtk theme as far as the scrollbar goes. I personally can't stand any gtk theme that prevents me from using the right edge of my screen to control the scrollbar, but no matter what theme i choose, thunar keeps that stupid thick-ass border. is there some hidden config option somewhere I can use to make the... [14:29] ...thickness 0 or are u stuck with it? i'd love to replace nautilus but that border is always a deal-breaker for me with any app/theme. [14:29] In Linux, there's no different "C:" and "D:" and whatnot drives [14:30] ha? [14:30] It's just all under "/", so you got for example "/tmp" for temporary files, "/home/vincent" for my user account [14:30] You'll mostly be concerned with the files in your user account [14:30] ic === gorgut is now known as gorgut_ [14:30] u type in on the terminal window? === gorgut_ is now known as gorgut [14:31] No [14:31] where/ [14:31] You really don't need the terminal as much as you think [14:31] oic [14:31] They're on your desktop, for example :) [14:31] i want to play on the terminal window [14:31] browse files on linux [14:32] hehe [14:32] noob_M, look, this is how you browse files in Xubuntu: http://thunar.xfce.org/images/filewindow-1.png [14:33] what is m4 file extension? [14:33] No idea [14:33] ok [14:34] You won't run into those anyway ;-) [14:34] can i ask about ubuntu here? [14:34] Preferably in #ubuntu, I don't know if we can answer it here :) [14:34] i alreay had ubuntu last year i uninstall it [14:34] ic [14:34] same server? [14:34] Yep [14:34] ok thanks [14:35] vinnl for u which is eaiser xubuntu or ubuntu? [14:36] Ehm, well... I think Ubuntu is a little bit easier for new users [14:36] But of course I'm a Xubuntu fan ;-) [14:36] ic [14:36] my frend recomend xubuntu too [14:36] before i try ubuntu i unstall it [14:36] i dont know how to configure [14:37] hehehe [14:37] but now i want to learn [14:37] hmmmm [14:37] x or u? [14:37] hehehe [14:37] u choose for me [14:37] You can easily do both :) [14:37] I'd say: if you friend recommended Xubuntu, go with that, he'll know best what suits you [14:37] but u said x is for slow pc? [14:37] Anyone capable of helping me with windows shares, and how to connect the them from xubuntu? [14:38] Well, that wasn't me, but... Xubuntu will run a bit better. Do you have a slow PC? [14:38] athlon 1800xp [14:38] 256 ram [14:39] 10 gig hd [14:39] is my old pc [14:39] hehehe [14:39] ata-66 hardisk slow [14:39] Ah well then you don't want to do Ubuntu :P [14:39] y? [14:39] can't run 256 ram? [14:39] Yeah but not pleasantly [14:40] Oh wait, I don't even think it can, no [14:40] only to learn the basic [14:40] only to learn the basics [14:40] how about 512 [14:40] You could, but I'd really go with Xubuntu, it's a bit faster [14:40] i tried 512mb it run the ubuntu [14:40] Still, though you could give Ubuntu a try then [14:40] u always online? [14:41] Not always, no :P [14:41] oh no [14:41] But there often are very helpful people over here, especially on weekdays :) [14:41] ah ok [14:41] im in the philipines [14:41] diferent time slot [14:41] in the morning here people asleep in the US [14:41] lol [14:46] gtg thanks for your help vinnl [15:24] hi everyone [15:24] lo [15:24] vinnl are you here [15:24] Hey vojacekj :) [15:25] thanks it works [15:25] it's super [15:25] Great :) [15:25] i have 1 more question, problem :D [15:26] i have problem with scanner [15:26] do you know something about it? [15:26] A little, little bit [15:26] i have scanner Umax Astra 2000p [15:27] and don't u know some goog page? [15:27] *good [15:28] vojacekj, perhaps this one's good: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo :) [15:28] thank u [15:28] u are great [15:38] bey meanwhile [15:38] Bye [15:39] Good Morning [15:39] Hey charlie-tca [15:39] lo === AwayML is now known as AndyML [16:05] :) [16:06] so, apt-get -f install gives me "apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [16:06] " [17:05] I've been having a problem getting my restricted video drivers to cooperate. I can enable and disable then fine from the panel, but they take no effect. It was working fine prior to a power outage, but now it's about a 10% success rate when I boot up. Suggestions? [17:09] format and reinstall [17:09] Bite me. [17:10] lolTodd: dmesg says something? how about /var/log/Xorg.0.log? [17:15] Checking [17:15] I was following this site http://layer8problem.blogspot.com/2008/10/howto-remote-desktop-to-xubuntu-710.html but when I got to vino-session it states command not found? [17:18] TheSheep: In Xorg.0.log it says "Backing store disabled. Does that help? [17:20] no [17:23] Validated modes: "nvidia-auto-slect" Virtual screen size determined to be 640x480. Unable to get display device CRT-0's EDID; cannot compute DPI from CRT-0's EDID. DPI set to (7, 75); computed from build-in default. [17:33] How about that, TheSheep? [17:34] lolTodd: looks like the driver works... [17:35] lolTodd: maybe try logs from when it's not working [17:36] TheSheep: Working or not, I'm stuck at 640x480. [17:37] lolTodd: that's because the driver couldn't read you monitor's resolution [17:37] lolTodd: try specyfying vertical and horizontal refresh rates in xorg.conf [18:02] does anyone know if the new notification system which is in Ubuntu 9.04 will be in Xubuntu 9.04? [18:03] I need help: When i click on a window, it wont come into focus [18:08] chewit: I don't know now. It was called notify-osd. [18:42] If I add a XFCE 4.6 PPA and update things is it pretty much impossible to go back if I don't like it or something doesnt work correctly? [18:43] GreedyB2: It is not impossible. I have done it. [18:46] GreedyB2: You can use synaptic to get list of the files installed from the PPA. Remove them in console, remove the PPA in /etc/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [18:47] I see [18:47] Did everything work for you? [18:47] GreedyB2: You mean in Xfce 4.6? [18:47] jarnos, yeah [18:48] GreedyB2: No. I had to refresh some configuration to keep the panel from freezing the computer, for instance. However, I am using it again. [19:11] what is the correct way to use the -unixpw option for x11vnc? or is there a website I can be pointed to? [19:17] where's the setting for the number of virtual desktops? I can't seem to find it following ubuntu how-to's [19:20] Shooree: it's in settings->setting manager->workspaces and margins [19:20] that's what I thought, TheSheep, but whenever I set i to 4, my Compiz cube doesn't give me more than 2 [19:21] Shooree: that's because compiz is not xubuntu [19:21] Shooree: it does its own workspaces [19:21] right [19:21] and has its own settings for it [19:21] !compiz | Shooree [19:21] Shooree: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz-fusion [19:21] could you tell me how to enable the cube, please? All I've got now is a two-faced square [19:22] oh [19:22] ok [19:22] I have no idea [19:22] sorry [19:22] np [19:22] I'll do my homework [19:35] for the record, I was just blind. it was there the whole time, the desktop size tab. I just didn't see it. [19:42] any blender users here that have discovered keyboard shortcut problems ? [19:43] simple fix in the xfwm4 default file. the easy click option should be set to false. this seems to go for quite a few keyboard shortcuts [19:43] in other programs as well [19:55] artistxe: what does it do? [19:59] what does it (what ? ) do ? [20:00] changing the default ? [20:00] artistxe: I'm just wondering hwat is the problem and how that option solves it [20:00] what* [20:01] oh. in blender it the default prevents you from using certain key combos in edit mode. such as Alt-rmb in editmode to select an edgeloop [20:01] rmb? [20:02] originally I had thought that it was a keboard config problem in the settings. [20:02] rmb = right mouse button [20:02] you do not use Blender I am guessing.... [20:05] ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) - Anyone know how to fix this? [20:07] Slonkie: start mysql daemon [20:07] how do i do that? [20:08] artistxe: not often, but I had similar problem in Second Life, I just switched that to Super [20:08] Slonkie: wait, what are you actually trying to do? [20:08] start mysql [20:09] what for? [20:09] I need it for amarok [20:09] amarok uses mysql? [20:09] yep [20:10]