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humboltConcerning LTSP: Do only USB disks work as LOCALDEVs? It seems Digicams, which also appear as usb disks, are not seen by LTSP/15:06
anom1humbolt: have you got the answer?  maybe in #ltsp instead?16:12
anom1humbolt: either this channel is quieter than antarctica, or everyone uses "/query" and i missed out on all the action.16:14
humboltanom1: no, this channel seems pretty slow these days16:50
humboltstgraber: you here?16:50
Ahmuckit is slow :(16:57
Ahmucktwo of the shaker movers got re-involved in school16:57
* Lns is here16:58
Ahmuckah, yes.  another shaker mover16:58
Ahmuckso ... should i hire someone to deelop a user management program or is saybon back on board ?16:58
humboltAhmuck: shaker movers?16:59
LnsAhmuck: define "user management program" - do you have specifications for what should be included?17:00
Ahmuckin ltsp, logging out lists all the users17:02
Ahmuckmessages are broadcast over every computer for print outs, etc.17:02
Ahmuckmanagement of user programs, being able to set a .textfile_of_programs for allowed programs and menu control17:03
Ahmuckso that the yearbook would have graphic apps, the music, music apps17:03
humboltDoes anybody know how to make Digicams accessible plugged in via USB on an LTSP thin client (removable disk protocol).17:04
Ahmuckprograms set thier own .config in each directory allowing user cusomizableity17:04
humboltIt does not seem LTSP is recognicing17:04
Ahmuckand info storage such as score on math test, etc17:04
Ahmuckhumbolt: #ltsp17:04
humboltrecognizing SD card readers17:05
Ahmuckvideo resolution, program defaults, etc.17:05
AhmuckLns: should i keep going?17:05
Ahmucka public exchange directory17:06
LnsAhmuck: ok, so what you're talking about is almost more of an "ltsp customized DE environment"17:07
Lnslol...s/environment//17:07
AhmuckDE environment ?17:12
Ahmucki'm looking for a way to manage user profiles17:12
Ahmuckand inventory machines17:12
LnsAhmuck: desktop environment17:12
LnsAhmuck: i think what you're looking for is what MOST multi-user network admins look for17:12
Lnsso it would be easy to find enough people to pool together resources to get it done17:13
Ahmuckcurrently my machines are all the same.  however ltsp should provide you a way to inventory all machines and report back to the main server.  similar to what ocs inventory does17:13
LnsAhmuck: hmm, i was thinking about this the other day, had an epiphany about how it could work ..trying to remember ;)17:14
Ahmuckthat way one could drop any machine on the network and the bootup inventory logs would be reported back to the server.  it would be easier to diagnose by machine this way17:14
LnsOH17:14
* Lns gets a lightbulb17:14
LnsSo lemme know if you guys think this is feasable17:14
Ahmuckhigh schools need simple tools to do simple managment, inventory, etc.  wine configurations, program defaults, etc.17:14
Ahmuckeven user migration.  the OS400 has user migration17:15
Ahmuckso that one can wipe and re-install without data loss17:15
LnsI was trying to figure out how you could safely provide administration tasks through an ssh connection and/or tunnel on clients from a server/designated workstation17:15
Lnssome people didn't like the idea of installing an ssh server in the chroot17:15
Lnsso i thought, why not, by default, when a client boots up, create an ssh tunnel from the CLIENT to the SERVER, and provide some sort of IPC mechanism through that?17:16
Ahmuckuser environment and admin enviroonment should be sepearted ?! shouldn't they17:16
Lnsand then I remembered "ldminfod" and wondered what that was for (might be totally off base with that)17:16
LnsWhat we need is a central "control panel" for all connected thin clients, for inventory, showing what's turned on/connected, who's logged in (kinda like MSFT "Terminal Services Manager" program, which is kinda nice for that)17:18
LnsAhmuck: iTalc does that "kind of" but I think an LTSP specific program would be better...could provide lots of good functionality like what you're talking about17:19
Ahmuckms used to have a small business type of manager as well17:19
Ahmuckso, nubae and Laserjock drop out becasue of school?17:20
LnsI know laserjock is working on his thesis so he can't be as involved17:20
LaserJockmorgs: around?18:06
LnsI'm trying to troubleshoot this stream not working for one of my schools - can anyone test this URL and tell me whether you're able to see the webcam? It's Quicktime/RTSP proto. http://www2.ucsc.edu/scpbrg/falconcamera.htm20:17
Lns(obviously you'd need to have quicktime codecs installed)20:20
alkisg1Lns, I see a bird... :P20:26
Lnsalkisg1: can you tell me what codec package yo uhave?20:27
Lns(it's a nestcam :) )20:27
alkisg1Urm, how do I check what codec is used to display it?20:27
Lnswell it's a quicktime/rtsp stream, i know that much20:28
Lnsalkisg1: are you on a thin client?20:28
alkisg1Nope20:28
alkisg1Will `dpkg -l 'gstreamer*'` do?20:28
Lnsif it's gstreamer you're using, probably20:29
Lnsi'm gonna try from my ltsp svr console20:29
=== alkisg1 is now known as alkisg
alkisgLns, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/136240/20:31
Lnsalkisg: ty =) i'll diff that from mine20:31
alkisgyw20:31
Lnsalkisg: you must be on ibex/jaunty huh20:32
alkisgYup, jaunty it is20:33
alkisgYou still on hardy?20:33
Lnsalkisg: yeah20:33
Lnsi've got older versions of gstreamer stuff..that must be the issue20:33
alkisgHeh... LTS = long time suffering :P20:33
Lnsalkisg: 8D20:33
Lnsnice20:33
* Lns wonders if installing newest gstreamer stuff will break his system20:34
alkisgLns, does it play if you open it directly with totem?20:34
Lnsalkisg: it doesn't even seem to try for some reason..brb20:35
alkisgLns, try this: gst-launch-0.10 playbin2 uri=rtsp://nts-prod-bird-mirror-1.ucsc.edu/birdback.sdp20:40
Lnsalkisg: same thing :( solid gray screen21:01
LnsFunny thing was, last week I tried and it was intermittently working21:01
Lnssometimes it'd show it, sometimes it'd be garbled, sometimes nothing21:01
alkisgI guess it's a gstreamer bug then - is there a ppa with any newer gstreamer versions to try?21:02
alkisg(I suppose you do have the *ugly and *bad codecs, right?)21:02
alkisgLns, https://launchpad.net/~gstreamer-developers/+archive/ppa      - no hardy, though :(21:03
Lnsalkisg: yeah, got the ugly+bad21:03
Lnsheh...i hate how lts versions are treated like bastard stepchildren :(21:04
alkisgLns, how about `mplayer rtsp://nts-prod-bird-mirror-1.ucsc.edu/birdback.sdp` ? It uses [ffodivx] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)21:37
Lnsalkisg: http://pastebin.ca/1369610 :(21:42
Lnsoh21:43
Lnshehe..lemme try the -fps21:43
Lnsalkisg: http://pastebin.ca/1369611 :(21:44
alkisgLns, mine says: demux_rtp: Guessed the video frame rate as 10 frames-per-second.21:46
alkisgTry with fps = 1021:46
alkisgAh, you did...21:47
Lns;)21:48
LnsWhy can't all the codecs just get along? Heh21:49
LnsCan anyone in edu-land tell me where the best deals for a 15-17" LCD (preferably as low-power-consuming as possible, and *buntu/LTSP compatible OOTB) is online?22:10
faustino3331stgraber: are you in here23:07
faustino3331?23:07
stgraberfaustino3331: yes23:09
faustino3331stgraber : i'm having the same problem with the getltscfg23:10
faustino3331i keeps saying exec format error could it be because the server is an amd64 and the client is an i38623:11
stgraberhow did you build your chroot ?23:11
faustino3331with --arch i38623:11
faustino3331but it made a amd64 image to23:12
faustino3331before my image for the i38623:12
faustino3331automatically23:12
stgraberok, can you check /etc/inetd.conf and tell me what's on port 2000 ?23:12
stgraberis that amd64 or i38623:12
faustino3331i will check tomorrow morning23:12
faustino3331i've taken phtos from the error23:13
faustino3331in console 123:13
faustino3331and in console 823:13
stgraberyou can probably try the following:23:13
faustino3331can it be useful to trace my problem23:13
faustino3331?23:13
stgraber- drop the two lines (2000 and 2001) from /etc/inetd.conf23:13
stgraber- rm -Rf /opt/ltsp23:13
stgraber- rm -Rf /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp23:14
stgraber- ltsp-build-client --arch i38623:14
stgraberthat should get rid of any existing chroot (amd64 and i386) and rebuild a clean i386 one23:14
stgraberyou should also make sure that /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf (I guess it's the path) points to /i386 and not /amd6423:14
* stgraber wonders if we should build an image when installing from an amd64 CD ... it's too late for this cycle but I guess that for next we should just not build a chroot as amd64 thin client aren't that common yet and it's most likely to break than to work23:15
faustino3331if the path in dhcpd.conf points to  /amd64 it could be enough change it to point to i386?23:17
stgraberprobably, that's assuming the tftp configuration was generate correctly (it should be)23:17
faustino3331i will try it tomorrow morning in school23:18
faustino3331the kids ask me almost everyday when will the linux computers be working again23:19
faustino3331i tried to upgrade from 8.04.1 to 8.10 and it stopped working23:20
faustino3331so i've installed jaunty and tried to put ltsp to work23:20
faustino3331and as i was changing ubuntu i've put two more disks23:21
faustino3331so now i have 320 GB for the homes and 250 for the system23:22

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