[00:38] <jjesse> hello
[01:27] <crashsystems> I think I may have found a bug in notify-osd, but would like some input. Normally in Firefox I can drag links from a page onto the tab bar to open them up in a new tab. Just a minute ago, I tried doing so, in an area of the tab bar that was obscured by a notification. As usual when my mouse moved up there the notification went mostly transparent, but dropping links to that spot would not work. When the notification went away
[01:31] <bcurtiswx> anyone here good with wordpress configs?
[01:38] <greg-g> crashsystems: I think your message was cut off, I see at the end "When the notification went away"
[01:39] <crashsystems> "....normal behavior resumed."
[01:39] <crashsystems> the and
[01:39] <greg-g> :)
[01:39] <crashsystems> the end*
[01:39] <crashsystems> I just searched in notify-osd on LP, and did not find a related bug report. I'm currently writing one up
[01:40] <greg-g> crashsystems: it would be interesting to see if the notifications prevent other drag n drop actions, like of files to the desktop
[01:40] <crashsystems> Hmm, I'll test that out real quick
[01:40] <crashsystems> confirmed.
[01:40] <greg-g> want me to send you a notice on identica? :)
[01:40] <greg-g> neverind then
[01:41] <crashsystems> I downloaded the little python file that was used on the notify-osd testing day
[01:41] <greg-g> ah, right on.
[01:43] <greg-g> anyone using epiphany in Jaunty? it won't start up for me, bug 347048
[01:43] <crashsystems> it starts up for me
[01:43] <greg-g> hmmm
[01:50] <crashsystems> greg-g any other sort of drag-and-drop events you can think of to test this?
[01:52] <greg-g> crashsystems: not really, those two sound like enough
[01:52] <crashsystems> bug #347053
[02:00] <Ampelbein> bug #347052 - ???
[02:02] <crashsystems> does seem to be a little sparse on details...
[02:02] <greg-g> Ampelbein: did you report that bug?
[02:02] <bcurtiswx> hey anyone know wordpress well enough to know why http://weather.briandcurtis.com:443/ubuntu/wp-login.php is like that (its supposed to have a theme).. but thats a fresh installation
[02:03] <Ampelbein> greg-g: no
[02:03] <Ampelbein> just stumbled over it.
[02:03] <Ampelbein> i think i'll convert it to a question
[02:03] <greg-g> Ampelbein: gotcha.
[02:03] <greg-g> or ask for more information
[02:03] <greg-g> it may be a bug
[02:04] <greg-g> Don't convert to a question unless you know it isn't a bug.
[02:05] <Ampelbein> well, since the gnome-do he mentions is just a pidgin-irc-window it is clear he can't drag and drop files there.
[02:05] <crashsystems> I thought gnome-do looked different...
[02:06] <greg-g> crashsystems: it has a docky now
[02:06] <crashsystems> so I've heard
[02:07] <greg-g> Ampelbein: I don't know if that is what he meant by gnome-do
[02:07] <mrooney> Ampelbein: Do is on the bottom, and it is in fact a real issue
[02:07] <greg-g> Ampelbein: he was probably in the irc channel looking for help
[02:09] <crashsystems> What is the difference between using #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu+1? The purpose of both channels seems to overlap in my mind.
[02:10] <greg-g> #ubuntu+1 is for support of the development version of ubuntu while #ubuntu-bugs is for triaging bugs in ubuntu (whatever version)
[02:11] <crashsystems> ah, ok
[02:15] <bcurtiswx> wordpress.. you worked 5 minutes ago
[02:15] <bcurtiswx> whyyyyyyyy?????
[02:15] <bcurtiswx> :P
[02:17] <bcurtiswx> hmm.. why would something work on http://localhost but not my actual domain address
[02:18] <bcurtiswx> in this case its wordpress themes
[02:59] <nullack> Ping asac : RE my email on Aus and NZ language setup for FF
[06:35] <dholbach> good morning
[06:56] <YoBoY> good morning
[06:57] <thekorn> good morning YoBoY
[07:04] <YoBoY> hi thekorn :)
[11:19] <nullack> ping asac RE bug #3127
[11:21] <BUGabundo> calc: ping
[11:21] <BUGabundo> what's the OOo can't open file from samba/gvfs bug ?
[11:37] <YoBoY> bug 243489 << confirmed, importance medium or high
[11:43] <BUGabundo> is bug 279820 confirmed?
[12:23] <YoBoY> bug 346710 << wishlist
[12:24] <BUGabundo> eheh
[12:25] <BUGabundo> that would be a nice feature
[12:25] <BUGabundo> but also a  security breach
[12:25] <BUGabundo> -1 from me
[12:25] <BUGabundo> any user on that terminal within Timeout could list files that only root should access
[12:27] <BUGabundo> YoBoY: ^^^^^^^^^^^
[12:27] <YoBoY> yes, but it's a wish, only the bash devs can say if they can or not :)
[12:27] <YoBoY> but the sudo active time is also a security breach ;)
[12:28] <BUGabundo> yes it is
[12:29] <BUGabundo> that's why I set mine to 30 secs
[12:29] <BUGabundo> if I want something else, I would be running as root
[12:29] <BUGabundo> but that isn't as secure as possible (as low privileged as possible)
[12:30] <BUGabundo> and of course, running as root it is not the Ubuntu way
[12:33] <BUGabundo> LP now allows to mark bugs as dupes of other bugs, even when having dups bugs it self? eheh
[12:34] <pedro_> m? ala bugzilla?
[12:34] <pedro_> if so I'd love that
[12:34]  * pedro_ tries
[12:34] <BUGabundo> one prob only (I think)
[12:34] <BUGabundo> the dupes don't get dup of the master
[12:35] <BUGabundo> they remain on the original bug
[12:35] <pedro_> same way bugzilla handle those
[12:36] <BUGabundo> never mind
[12:36] <BUGabundo> #LP says it's a bug
[12:36] <BUGabundo> it causes infitive loops
[12:36] <BUGabundo> but it would be nice to have a tree of bugs
[12:37] <cph4ck3r> hey can anyone tell me if ubuntu rpm support system or not
[12:38] <BUGabundo> cph4ck3r: if we can use RPMs?
[12:38] <BUGabundo> well there's alien to convert to debs
[12:38] <cph4ck3r> ???
[12:41] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/347246
[12:42] <BUGabundo> pedro_: ^^^
[12:42] <pedro_> BUGabundo: thanks ;-)
[12:47] <BUGabundo> pedro_: didn't you touch bug 340222 ?
[12:49] <pedro_> BUGabundo: nope. may you open a new one with apport? would be good to have a complete stacktrace
[12:49] <BUGabundo> I did apport-collect
[12:50] <BUGabundo> and apport should have sent the data as attached
[12:50] <BUGabundo> since I filed it with it, after crash
[12:51] <pedro_> BUGabundo: there's nothing on the report, that's why i was telling you to open a new one
[12:51] <BUGabundo> oh
[12:51] <BUGabundo> bad apport/lp
[12:51] <pedro_> BUGabundo: only the dependencies were attached
[12:51] <pedro_> heh yeah
[12:51] <BUGabundo> not even from apport-collect?
[12:51] <BUGabundo> maybe its just slow??
[12:52] <pedro_> let's wait a few minutes then, if it doesn't just open a new one, the stacktrace on that bug is broken as said
[12:53] <BUGabundo> ok
[12:53] <BUGabundo> lunch in a few minute
[12:53] <BUGabundo> if it isn't when I came back, I'll just copy a new file and make it crash
[12:54] <BUGabundo> happens 90% of the time
[12:58] <BUGabundo> bah
[12:58] <BUGabundo> why does reproduce tests always fail when we try them?
[13:06] <YoBoY> BUGabundo: should be a murphy's law :)
[13:07] <BUGabundo> pedro_: there a collect log there
[13:07] <BUGabundo> is that enough ?
[13:07] <BUGabundo> YoBoY: 4 reason of techonolgy testing
[13:09] <pedro_> BUGabundo: nope
[13:09] <BUGabundo> bah
[13:09] <BUGabundo> ok
[13:09] <BUGabundo> will dd a big file and move it to server
[14:11] <bddebian> Boo
[14:12] <BUGabundo> f... couch
[14:12] <bddebian> Hrm... :)
[14:12]  * BUGabundo damn bugs, got me a cold
[14:21] <BUGabundo> pedro_: uploading new crash now
[14:21] <pedro_> BUGabundo: ok, nice
[14:22] <BUGabundo> pedro_: nah
[14:22] <BUGabundo> its to slow...........
[14:22] <BUGabundo> LP must be timeing out
[14:24]  * dholbach hugs asac :)
[14:25]  * asac hugs dholbach
[14:25] <maco> ^ random hugging?
[14:25]  * BUGabundo better shut up. doesn't want to be kicked again
[14:25] <BUGabundo> pedro_: upload failed
[14:26] <BUGabundo> how can I force to re-upload the local crash file?
[14:26] <asac> slow? .... try to open: http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100478
[14:26] <asac> lol
[14:26] <BUGabundo> ehehehe
[14:26] <BUGabundo> asac: I know
[14:26] <BUGabundo> not the fastest site
[14:26] <asac> even ubottu gave up ;)
[14:28] <BUGabundo> anyone wanna tell me how to re-upload an apport crash?
[14:29] <asac> BUGabundo: you need to double click on the .crash file
[14:29] <asac> if its removed you are probably out of luck
[14:30] <BUGabundo> ahh that
[14:30] <BUGabundo> keep forgeting about it
[14:30] <BUGabundo> you can't click from cli... duh
[14:34] <BUGabundo> no idea what apport is doing
[14:34] <BUGabundo> but it just closes it self.... doesn't open an LP page
[14:34] <BUGabundo> can't add the trace pedro_and seb128 want
[14:36] <seb128> use sudo apport-retrace .crash
[14:36] <seb128> locally retracing
[14:39] <BUGabundo> done
[14:39] <BUGabundo> uploaded to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/347323
[14:39] <BUGabundo> apport-cli -c did ut
[14:39] <BUGabundo> *it
[14:39] <BUGabundo> pedro_: ^^^
[14:41] <BUGabundo> seb128: is it any good?
[14:41]  * seb128 undups it so it get retraced
[14:42] <seb128> BUGabundo: it has not been retraced yet
[14:42] <BUGabundo> ah ok
[14:42] <BUGabundo> ping me back if you guys need anything else
[14:42] <BUGabundo> since its quite easy to reproduce
[14:42] <seb128> bah
[14:42] <seb128> BUGabundo:    from /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-2.0/libnautilus-dropbox.so
[14:42] <BUGabundo> maybe some debug libs
[14:42] <BUGabundo> ahhh
[14:42] <seb128> BUGabundo: that's not an ubuntu bug
[14:42] <BUGabundo> so that's it!
[14:42] <BUGabundo> thanks
[14:43] <BUGabundo> upstreaming it
[14:43] <seb128> you installed some crap from the web apparently ;-)
[14:43] <BUGabundo> I wouldn't call it crap
[14:43] <BUGabundo> but sure, its semi opensource
[14:43] <seb128> well, it crashes nautilus reliably
[14:43] <BUGabundo> eheehehe
[14:43] <seb128> and we get the bugs
[14:43] <BUGabundo> filing upstream
[14:43] <seb128> thanks
[14:44] <BUGabundo> seb128: can you comment that on the dupe bug, so that upstream know exaclty what happened?
[14:44] <BUGabundo> thanks
[14:45] <seb128> BUGabundo: what do you mean?
[14:45] <seb128> BUGabundo: retracing will not work ubuntu has no dbgsym for those binaries
[14:45] <seb128> since they are not coming from ubuntu
[14:46] <BUGabundo> sent upstream
[14:46] <BUGabundo> http://forums.getdropbox.com/topic.php?id=7738&replies=1#post-49530
[14:47] <BUGabundo> seb128: part of the DropBox is opensource
[14:47] <BUGabundo> and part is close
[14:47] <BUGabundo> I think the nautilus plugin is FOSS
[14:47] <BUGabundo> let me check the site
[14:47] <seb128> BUGabundo: I don't deny that but launchpad doesn't know about non ubuntu code
[14:48] <seb128> BUGabundo: so retracing can't work there
[14:48] <BUGabundo> ok
[14:49] <BUGabundo> seb128: https://www.getdropbox.com/downloading?os=lnx
[14:49] <BUGabundo> here is source
[14:50] <BUGabundo> if I get it, can I retrace it locally ?
[14:51] <seb128> BUGabundo: you need to rebuild it in debug mode but yes
[15:57] <maco> should bug 331369 be considered a dup of bug 336848 ?
[16:25] <BUGabundo> hey maco 336848 isn't mine?
[16:26] <maco> no buga, you didnt reot that one
[16:26] <BUGabundo> then I have a dupe with the same text
[16:27] <BUGabundo> ah there am I on the dupe list
[16:35] <dominiks> hello everyone... is it possible to reopen bug 344839 marked as invalid please? I was trying to forward new suggestions to Ubuntu Brainstorm, but looks like reporter don't like this idea very much.. thanks
[16:37] <dominiks> *it looks like reporter doesn't*
[16:43] <YoBoY> dominiks: this suggestion/bug could also be reported upstream (gnome?)
[16:46] <dominiks> YoBoY: yeah.. I just wasn't sure it's Gnome issue or more generic idea :)
[16:47] <charlie-tca> dominiks: all you have to do is click the invalid under status and change it
[16:48] <dominiks> charlie-tca: it's disabled for me.. could you please do it for me?
[16:48] <YoBoY> it's a generic idea, a improvment, but i don't tink it's a ubuntu spécific message, a good way to identify who have the project is to search the error message in rosetta :)
[16:48] <charlie-tca> sure, what status would you like?
[16:48] <dominiks> charlie-tca: new i think
[16:49] <BUGabundo> hey charlie-tca...
[16:49] <charlie-tca> done
[16:49] <charlie-tca> hey, BUGabundo
[16:49] <dominiks> thanks for help everyone
[16:49] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[16:49] <BUGabundo> humm about the bug
[16:49] <BUGabundo> gnome-mount really needs more details
[16:49] <BUGabundo> the cli version is much more verbose and usefull
[16:53] <bcurtiswx-mini> dtchen: bug #345627
[16:53] <bcurtiswx-mini> dtchen: alsot trying your kernel from your PPA. doesn't fix my crackling issue
[16:57] <dominiks> YoBoY: how can I search something in rosetta please? sorry, I'm not very familiar with stuff regarding translations yet :-/
[16:58] <YoBoY> dominiks: don't know ¬_¬" it's more complicated than i tink
[16:58] <dominiks> YoBoY: ah ok.. thanks anyway
[17:09] <YoBoY> dominiks: the package is "gnome-mount"
[17:10] <dominiks> YoBoY: thanks
[17:13] <YoBoY> dominiks: another thing, for the wishbugs, i "confirm" them not invalidate them, and ask here to set the importance as wishlist, it's more friendly for the repporter
[17:13] <YoBoY> don't know if it's the right thing to do ... ;)
[17:16] <charlie-tca> You just have to look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[17:17] <dominiks> i was using invalid status because it§s recommended in wiki for brainstorming bug, but i agree it's bit rude :)
[17:18] <YoBoY> dominiks: ho it's recommanded to invalid them? where ? i haven't read that one :]
[17:20] <YoBoY> dominiks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Checklist << here, recommanded to mark confirmed
[17:20] <dominiks> YoBoY: oh.. my fault!
[17:20] <YoBoY> no problem :)
[17:21] <dominiks> YoBoY: i think somebody told me to mark it invalid here couple of days ago.. but im not sure.. i should read wiki..
[17:21] <YoBoY> i made bigger mistakes :p
[17:21] <dominiks> shame on me! :-[
[17:59] <yofel> hi, I'm new here and not sure about this, but I think that should be marked as wishlist: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/claws-mail/+bug/347440
[18:02] <charlie-tca> yofel, mark it wishlist please
[18:02] <bromic94> hey all. i have to downnload the updated drivers and patch for the broadcom wifi chip
[18:02] <bromic94> was wondering if someone could help me with all of this
[18:02] <yofel> charlie-tca: how?
[18:02] <bromic94> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/305907 that is the bug
[18:02] <bromic94> apparently downloading updated driver and patch fixes the issue
[18:03] <davmor2> charlie-tca: you need to be bug-control for that
[18:03] <charlie-tca> yofel: I did mark it wishlist, please mark it confirmed
[18:03] <charlie-tca> Yeah, too many things here.
[18:03] <yofel> ok
[18:04] <bromic94> davmor2 or yofel could you help me out?
[18:07] <davmor2> bromic94: This channel is mostly for bug triage you might want to try #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1 which are more generic help channels
[18:08] <davmor2> +1 is for Jaunty chat
[18:08] <bromic94> aware of that
[18:08] <bromic94> for +1
[18:08] <bromic94> trying to get a  possible fix for a bug that is why i asked in here
[18:20] <sbeattie> hrm, looks like there may be a fair number of dupes of bug 319918 hanging about, needing to be made public.
[18:25] <charlie-tca> sbeattie: Is it worth filing a decent bug report on the difficulty of updating /boot/grub/menu.lst when using multiple drives?
[18:27] <sbeattie> charlie-tca: I would think so, though it will likely be marked wishlist.
[18:27] <sbeattie> but wishlist bugs are useful, too.
[18:27] <charlie-tca> Wishlist works, at least it keeps it in mind.
[18:39] <dominiks> enough of triaging bugs! time to fix some of them :p
[19:09] <imachine> hi
[19:09] <imachine> a quick question, dunno if it's the right place, but since I updated to Jaunty's 4.5 QT, all my Qt4 apps look properly (same theme as gtk, they also pick the font settings correctly) the only issue is they don't seem to pick off dpi correctly.
[19:10] <imachine> that's on my old account, if I create a new one, it works okay.
[19:10] <imachine> any hints where I might be cleaning config files or so to make it work right?
[19:42] <dan-ubuntu> evening all
[19:43] <dan-ubuntu> help
[19:44] <jjardon> hello, anyone using glade-3? the Shortcut to the devhelper documentation don't work
[19:45] <jjardon> glade points you to page:GtkDialog, but it don't show anything
[19:45] <jjardon> if a write manually GtkDialog, the manual page shows
[19:46] <pedro_> jjardon: me, that's help->developer reference?
[19:47] <jjardon> pedro_, when you rigth-click in a widget and click on read documentation
[19:47] <jjardon> is a glade-3 fault or a devhelper fault?
[19:49] <dan-ubuntu> evening all
[19:50] <BUGabundo> hi dan-ubuntu
[19:51] <dan-ubuntu> hey :)
[19:51] <dan-ubuntu> i have a LOT of time on my hands atm
[19:51] <dan-ubuntu> 17, not at school
[19:51] <dan-ubuntu> so, ive decided to try out jaunty, alpha 6
[19:52] <dan-ubuntu> and do some bug reporting, see what i can do to help
[19:54] <pedro_> jjardon: right it doesn't work, may you open a new bug in glade3 in the meantime?
[19:54] <BUGabundo> dan-ubuntu: nice
[19:54] <BUGabundo> visit #ubuntu+1
[19:54] <dan-ubuntu> me?
[19:54] <BUGabundo> there is where most jaunty user are
[19:54] <dan-ubuntu> cool, is that for bugs?
[19:54] <jjardon> pedro_, okis
[19:54] <pedro_> dan-ubuntu: a testing day is happening on #ubuntu-testing in case you want to join ;-)
[19:54] <BUGabundo> all but me... but that's another storie
[19:55] <BUGabundo> dan-ubuntu: also read the documentation
[19:55] <BUGabundo> and always run update-manager (several times a day)
[19:55] <BUGabundo> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha6
[19:56] <dan-ubuntu> i do that :P
[19:56] <dan-ubuntu> thanks
[19:56] <BUGabundo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview
[19:56] <BUGabundo> welcome on aboard
[19:56] <BUGabundo> and remember to respect users and devs!
[19:56] <dan-ubuntu> thanks :)
[19:56] <BUGabundo> everyone here is trying to help
[19:56] <BUGabundo> plus subscrive to a few mailinglists
[19:57] <BUGabundo> most details are there
[19:57] <BUGabundo> announce, devel and devel-discuss
[19:57] <BUGabundo> are the ones you want!
[19:57] <dan-ubuntu> thanks
[19:58] <jjardon> pedro_, bug 347520 added
[19:58] <pedro_> jjardon: awesome, thanks
[20:03] <torkiano> pedro_, i filled another bug: bug 346309
[20:04] <torkiano> i don't know if it is a dupe of other glade-3 bug
[20:07] <pedro_> torkiano: it was already filed upstream at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=575885 and fixed there today
[20:07] <pedro_> torkiano: let's link that, thanks for reporting
[20:07] <torkiano> oh, awesome :)
[20:09] <dan-ubuntu> is anyone here having problems with channel modes in jaunty? im getting distortion in 2ch, but not 6ch, even though i am only playing stereo
[21:31] <greg-g> did other people from the 5-a-day-participants get an email from a new user?
[21:33] <charlie-tca> I did not get one
[21:33] <davmor2> yeap
[21:34] <davmor2> took me a while to figure out where it had come from :)
[21:39] <YoBoY> greg-g: yes i have my copy, and same question "why is writing to me?" ^^"
[21:44] <dominiks> i was bit confused by that mail too :)
[21:46] <greg-g> that seems weird that any user can message entire groups on LP. oh well, who wants to reply to the user? someone should, but not everyone.
[22:02] <YoBoY> ^^ flood response :D
[22:53] <dominiks> good night everyone