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FlannelLjL: Want to remove ikanobori?  He's still logging -ot00:09
FlannelWhether he's just walked away, or whatnot...00:09
LjLFlannel: logging? publicly?00:09
FlannelLjL: yep00:09
Flannelhttp://ikanobori.jp/irclogs/freenode/ubuntu-offtopic/2009/03/23.txt00:10
LjLFlannel: where?00:10
LjLFlannel: has he been told to stop? i realized there was talk about logging, but i never realized he was doing public logging00:10
FlannelI... believe so.  I wasn't around when the discussion happened.  Let me scroll back00:10
FlannelLjL: He posted that link and thats what started the discussion00:11
FlannelYeah, I'd say he was more or less told to not do it.00:11
FlannelOh, there he is now00:11
LjLi've invited him here00:12
Flannelsounds good00:12
ikanoboriLjL: why?00:13
LjLikanobori: why are you still publicly logging #ubuntu-offtopic after it was clarified that's not supposed to happen?00:13
ikanoboriLjL: that actual link is not publicised anywhere except for the channel therefore it is only know to people who already have access to everything discussed in the channel00:14
Flannelikanobori: That's not really how it works.00:15
LjLikanobori, it's on a web site00:15
LjLthat's WAY public enough00:15
LjL(besides, do you think Google has just had a lobotomy or anything?)00:15
ikanoborirobots.txt00:15
ikanoboriAnyway, if you want me to take it down, I'll take it down.00:15
LjLyes, i think we want you to take it down00:16
ikanoboriThen that's done.00:16
LjLikanobori: thank you00:17
ikanoboriThen I'll part this channel again?00:19
LjLikanobori: if you have no questions on your mind for us, please do00:20
ikanoboriLjL: I could make up some vague question, but I won't ;)00:21
LjL@mark #ubuntu-ops ikanobori Was logging #ubuntu-offtopic publicly after being informed that's not allowed - claims that's not happening anymore now00:22
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Seeker`why do people quote a whole email and then just type 5 words?00:34
FlannelSeeker`: Because they have bad etiquette00:35
FlannelThey apparently forget the "trim your quotes" part of sanity.00:35
* Flannel hides from elky00:36
Seeker`heh00:37
LjLi had given the wrong lists in the mail00:44
LjLcorrected them now00:44
elkyi'm at work, dopeys01:03
Seeker`dopeys?01:07
LjLdopey!01:08
LjLand daviey01:08
Daviey:(01:19
Flannelrww: How can we help you today?03:12
rwwIn case nobody's watching #ubuntu+1 right now, DaemonFC's in there doing his usual thing. Figured I should let y'all know in case you didn't already :)03:13
Flannelrww: call o-p-s in there if it becomes an issue (I'm not in there, am not sure what his "usual" thing is), and am not sure if anyone is awake (but the trigger, if required, will wake the appropriate ones)03:14
rwwFlannel: he got banned from -ot yesterday for trolling. The problem is that he doesn't do anything specifically !ops-able, he's just generally annoying.03:15
rwwI'll just do my usual thing and /ignore him, but I figured that since he just got banned from -ot yesterday, someone in here might care about him repeating his performance elsewhere.03:17
LjLrww: i really have to go to bed and cannot deal with this now03:18
LjLrww: but, give him !ot, that works often enough03:18
LjLrww: if he keeps on being offtopic after warning, that's ! ops-able03:18
rwwLjL: understood. Thanks03:18
LjLalthough he's discussing stuff with a kernel dev, so, erm03:18
LjLcareful :)03:19
rwwyeah, i noticed that :)03:19
tritiumLjL: I'm back.  I see you took action.  Thanks.  Looks like it was a young kid living at the homeless shelter our LoCo has done some volunteer work.  I'll have a talk with the shelter administrators.03:32
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maco3 #archlinux guys just /join'd #ubuntu-women to make fun of women05:07
macothey're acting like theyre trying to ask the channel out on a date05:07
macoand making jokes about makeup05:08
macoi told them to get out and they said went all "oh, no men allowed?"05:08
macoelky?05:10
macosomebody?05:10
AmaranthI have no access, sorry05:10
macook05:10
macofigures, you join, they go silent05:11
macobruenig, sykopomp, and betarepeating are the ones05:15
Amaranth*sigh*05:15
Amaranthmaco: Looks like all freenode staff have access in #ubuntu-women05:19
Amaranthmaco: Something to think about :)05:20
macoi just went and asked in there05:20
macono response yet05:20
Amaranthmaco: I was thinking more along the lines of !staff05:20
macook...05:21
macoim afraid of them scampering off before the staff person shows up with no retribution :P05:22
macoloss of element of surprise?05:22
macobut i think Until_It_Sleeps may be freenode person...not sure how to find out05:22
macooh no wait, i see...cloaks tell it05:23
Amaranthmaco: Wouldn't help, the access list allows people with the freenode staff hostmask05:23
AmaranthNot staff wearing a wikipedia cloak05:23
macoit didnt say anything n #freenode when i called !staff in #u-w05:25
macois that normal?05:25
Amaranthyes, that's meant to be used here05:25
Amaranthso the staff who hang out in the channel can check on things05:26
* Amaranth hugs elky05:32
elkyi'm doing this from work, at a government client. i'm not feeling comfortable with it taking long05:33
elky-ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation.05:35
elky-ChanServ- #ubuntu-women has the SECURE option enabled, and maco does not have appropriate access.05:35
elkyNOT HELPFUL!05:35
macoheh05:36
elky!staff ^^ what is that crap? it's obstructive05:36
ubottuI'll remember that, elky05:36
elkywhat?!05:36
elky!staff05:36
ubottuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could  use a bit of your time :)05:36
Amaranthelky: Just kick them already, one of them is obviously trolling05:37
macoAmaranth: elky's driving home right now, and im going to bed. keep an eye on them, please?05:58
Amaranth<DigitalKiwi> what thing06:28
Amaranth<sykopomp> the thing06:28
Amaranth<sykopomp> in my pants?06:28
bazhangthey should be banned from ubuntu namespace for that. the #archlinux trolls have been a problem for a long long time.06:31
bazhangsykopomp claims it was only bruenig and he came along for the ride06:41
bazhangbut judging from what you pasted he is trolling/stalking06:42
bazhangcould we also get a ban on groovyorange in -ot for long time ban evading?06:46
bazhanghttp://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/20081207.html.gz * [groovyOrange] (n=Username@217.8.236.161): Real name06:47
bazhangjust had a PM chat with sykopomp who claims he is entirely innocent, and that it is I who is wrong for asking him to leave06:48
bazhangthat I am being 'almost insulting and threatening' and he will save the logs06:48
bazhanghe refuses to part the channel however.06:49
bazhang@bansearch daemon_07:02
ubottuNo matches found for daemon_!n=xavierg2@host-98-127-40-131.bln-mt.client.bresnan.net in any channel07:02
bazhang@bansearch xavierg200307:03
ubottuNo matches found for xavierg2003!n=xavierg2@host-98-127-40-131.bln-mt.client.bresnan.net in any channel07:03
bazhang<bazhang> stop trolling this channel   <sykopomp> okay, I did a while ago.07:10
bazhang<sykopomp> actually, i wasn't even trolling. Read the log, it was all bruenig, and I just pointed him out since I figured he'd come troll07:10
bazhangloads of fun today  :/07:20
ubottuIn #ubuntu+1, keisangi said: ubottu, you mean this is not the correct channel to speak of such things?07:41
ubottubazhang called the ops in #ubuntu+1 (DaemonFC)07:42
jussi01sigh...07:55
jussi01I have to ask an embarrasingly simple question... <goes to google first>07:55
bazhang* DaemonFC loves self-appointed pretend mods such as bazhang   :/07:55
bazhangmay be time to stick to #ubuntu alone07:56
elkywhen and where was that?07:57
jussi01elky: just now, +107:58
jussi01does anyone know where to find that firefox extension that gpg decrption in gmail?07:58
elkyjussi01, i'd imagine it's in the mozilla addons section08:00
ikoniamorning08:44
ikoniabruenig has been causing more issues again I see08:47
elkyyeah. some of them are still haunting -women08:49
ikoniaany reason they have not been bounced ?08:49
elkybecause between maco and jono, it was decided they were behaving enough to be given a chance08:50
ikoniaokey dokey08:50
elkyi was trying to get home, and i lost the can-i-have-my-car-back-now-please ticket while trying to deal with it08:51
elkythankfully they let me out without a fine08:51
ikoniaoh dear08:51
ikoniavery lucky08:51
elky(which would have been 'oh hai, pay again')08:51
ikoniain the UK it's pay the maximum ammount if you lose your ticket08:52
elkysykopomp is still in -women, dont know if the other two were08:52
elkys/were/are/08:52
elkywell yes. that's logical. the fact that he saw me pay was the winning detail09:03
elkyikonia, where else do the arch trolls hit?09:04
ikonia#ubuntu09:15
ikonia#ot09:15
ikoniafew09:15
elky@bansearch gbeebo09:22
ubottuNo matches found for gbeebo!n=cbeebo@81-233-61-242-no71.tbcn.telia.com in any channel09:22
elkyum... what was he originally in as?09:22
ikoniano idea09:23
ikonianot seen him before that I can think of09:23
elky@bansearch nbeebo09:24
ubottuNo matches found for nbeebo!n=cbeebo@81-233-61-242-no71.tbcn.telia.com in any channel09:24
elky@btlogin09:24
elkyBUGabundo, do you need help with something?09:31
BUGabundonope09:32
BUGabundothanks any way09:32
ikonianope - just testing you where still banned09:34
ikoniaas you've tried over the weekend09:34
ikoniawith another new ip address09:35
ikoniahis IP hasn't changed in weeks, he gets banned and all of a suddent he's getting a new IP every few minutes09:35
ikonia</shock>09:35
MyrttiWHAT has been going on at -women this weekend...09:36
Myrttiwwweeeeeiiiird stuff09:36
elkyikonia, who?09:36
Myrttibugabundo09:36
* gnomefreak not shocked since n-m is broken (the testing version in asac's PPA09:36
ikoniaelky: BUGabundo09:36
elkyikonia, banned from where?09:36
gnomefreakand hes testing it09:36
ikonia+109:36
ikoniagnomefreak: then perhaps not carrying on with this behaviour and actually speaking to people would be better09:36
gnomefreakikonia: agreed, i didnt know about that09:37
ikoniayeah - nice ident09:41
bazhangtrolls/stalker in -women sorted?09:46
elkymeanwhile, i still want a staff to tell me why i cant op people up in -women09:46
BUGabundogood morning09:46
BUGabundocan the ban on #ubuntu+1 be removed?09:46
BUGabundoit has been more then the required 48h09:46
BUGabundothanks09:46
bazhangBUGabundo, you'll need to talk to ikonia 09:46
ikoniaBUGabundo: hi09:47
BUGabundohi ikonia, how are you?09:47
BUGabundoikonia: can the ban on #ubuntu+1 be removed?09:47
ikoniaBUGabundo: fine, 09:47
BUGabundothank you09:47
ikoniaBUGabundo: whoaa, no "how are you" "fine" was my laggy response09:47
ikoniaBUGabundo: why did you join #ubuntu+1 over the weekend ?09:48
ikonia(I sent you a memo about it also ) 09:48
BUGabundodid I?09:48
ikoniayes, 09:48
BUGabundoI only got send here09:48
BUGabundowhen pidgin autologin09:48
BUGabundoand then parted the channel09:48
ikoniaBUGabundo: no you didn't09:48
ikoniayou stayed in talking for over 3 hours as I recall09:48
Myrttihow about you take the autojoin off?09:48
ikonia(maybe a bit less as I don't have the logs to hand) 09:48
BUGabundoonce I got in with an unregiter ncik (bugabundo1) but part immediately09:48
ikoniano 09:48
ikoniayou joined the same day you where banned and started talking09:49
ikoniayou stayed in the channel for a reasonable ammount of time talking09:49
ikoniaand I then sent you a memo about it with memoserve09:49
ikoniawhich I know you read 09:49
BUGabundoikonia: I thought the ban had been removed.. (are we talking on friday, right?09:49
ikonia BUGabundo why did you think it had been removed09:49
ikoniawhy did you change IP addresse almost straight after the ban09:49
BUGabundoI got you memo telling me I change IPs, which I did not09:50
elkyikonia, the 48 hours would recommence from that point then09:50
ikoniaBUGabundo: why would I remove it after I told you it is for the weekend09:50
ikoniaBUGabundo: you did change IP 09:50
ikoniathats how you got passed the ban09:50
BUGabundoit was a dyn ip, on the place I was connenting09:50
BUGabundoI did not change the IP09:50
ikoniaok "you're ip changed" 09:50
BUGabundook09:50
BUGabundoout of my control then09:50
BUGabundoI thought the ban was on NICK not IP09:50
ikoniastaying in the channel talking09:50
BUGabundoplus that was on Friday09:50
ikoniathat was in your control09:51
ikoniaas was auto join09:51
ikoniaso what if that was on friday 09:51
BUGabundothe ban over the weekend was obbeyed09:51
ikoniano - you broke it on Friday 09:51
ikoniaand you knew you did 09:51
BUGabundoagain, I though it was removed.... (on Friday)09:51
BUGabundothen I came here (#ops) on Saturday and we discussed this09:51
ikoniawhy would I remove it after telling you - and you agreeing to stay out for the weekend09:52
elkyBUGabundo, a hint: lying makes things worse.09:52
BUGabundoand we are having the same discussion all over again09:52
BUGabundoikonia: please do was you and other OPs see fit.09:52
ikoniaBUGabundo: did you agree to stay out of #ubuntu+1 until the end of the weekend ?09:52
BUGabundoI obbeyed the weekend rule09:52
elkyanother hint, for free: treating us like we're stupid and naive will also make things worse.09:52
BUGabundoand now I'm going to get work done09:52
BUGabundothank you for the time09:52
ikoniaBUGabundo: this attitude isn't helping09:53
BUGabundoikonia: its no attitude09:53
ikoniaBUGabundo: come back when you're willing to talk frankly09:53
BUGabundoI'm trying to be helpful09:53
BUGabundoyou seem to be trying to builing me...09:53
BUGabundoI'm steping back, that's just it09:53
ikoniaBUGabundo: did you agree to stay out of #ubuntu+1 until the end of the weekend yes/no ?09:53
BUGabundodon't want a fight with any one09:53
BUGabundoYes09:53
ikoniaBUGabundo: so why did you join on friday and stay in talking for hours ?09:54
BUGabundoikonia: I answered that before.09:54
ikoniaBUGabundo: I missed it09:54
BUGabundoand again, when I was redirected to thischannel on Saturday09:54
ikoniaor missunderstood09:54
ikoniaBUGabundo: I re-directed you due to you ban dodging09:54
BUGabundoI got clear instructions09:54
ikoniayou got clear instructions to stay out of the channel 09:55
BUGabundoand obbeyed them, didn't I ?09:55
ikoniayet you joined09:55
ikoniano09:55
ikoniayou joined on friday hours after the ban was set09:55
ikoniaand you stayed in that channel for hours09:55
BUGabundoagain.... though the ban was removed09:55
BUGabundonever thought it was IP related09:55
ikoniayou AGREED - forget the ban to stay out09:55
ikoniayet you didn't09:55
BUGabundoI agreed on Saturday09:56
ikoniano09:56
ikoniayou agreed on Friday 09:56
BUGabundoon Friday it was just imposed09:56
ikoniawhen I banned you09:56
BUGabundowill please some other OP mediate this discussion. thanks09:56
ikoniano - you agreed to stay out on Friday 09:56
ikoniano problem09:56
elkyBUGabundo, you breached the ban. that is a Freenode policy breach. I could choose to pass this on to them, or you could take the punishment respectfully for that single channel.09:57
* Myrtti can't understand how difficult it is to take a channel off the autojoin in pidgin09:58
BUGabundoelky I did! I stayed out the all weekend as requested by another OP in this channel on Saturday morning09:58
ikoniathey requested you stay out because you where banned and ban dodging09:58
elkyBUGabundo, what time UTC did you last leave the #ubuntu+1 channel?09:58
BUGabundoI don't know what ban dodging is, not did I tried that09:58
BUGabundoelky some thing along Friday night09:59
elkyBUGabundo, ban dodging is resetting your router for a new ip address, then rejoining channels which have banned your old one.09:59
BUGabundonot sure the hour09:59
elkyikonia, when in UTC did he last leave the channel, since i'm not getting an honest answer from him09:59
BUGabundoelky as explained before, that was out of my control09:59
elkyikonia, he states friday now, but just before said saturday, so i cannot trust his words09:59
ikoniastaying in a channel for hours is not ou of your control10:00
BUGabundoelky I can post my logs... not knowing the hour, is not an disonest anwser10:00
ikoniasetting auto join is not out of control10:00
elkyBUGabundo, i'm not one of the people that think irc bans reset routers within 10 minutes.10:00
elkyikonia, can i have a UTC timestamp of the last time he departed +1?10:01
ikoniayou're iP address had not changed in over a week when I looked yet it changed straight after the ban was set10:01
BUGabundoelky I already explaing I though the ban was on Nick... not IP10:01
ikoniaelky: I'll grab the logs from the website as I had to bounce my box at the weekend10:01
elkyikonia, thanks10:01
BUGabundoikonia: I connected to the internet from more then 4 places over the weekend10:01
BUGabundoover several networks10:01
ikoniaBUGabundo: so ?10:01
BUGabundothe IP would obviouslly change10:01
* BUGabundo checks local logs times10:02
elkyoh, so the story changes now? how ever so convenient that is.10:02
* Myrtti considers whistling a timeout10:03
BUGabundolast line of log:10:03
BUGabundo (01:31:27 AM) mjc1 [n=mjc@c-66-176-165-198.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] entered the room.10:03
elkythat lacks alot of context. i do not know what timezone that log is in, nor the date it occurred on10:03
BUGabundothen on Saturday morning was redirected here10:04
BUGabundo (11:01:21 AM) bazhang: BUGabundo, how may we help you10:04
BUGabundoGMT10:04
BUGabundoMon Mar 23 10:04:17 WET 200910:04
BUGabundocurrent time on my system10:04
BUGabundoMon Mar 23 10:04:32 UTC 200910:04
BUGabundosame as UTC10:04
ikoniaelky: 23:5910:04
ikoniathats the last entry on the day of the ban10:04
ikoniajust checking the next day10:05
ikonia01:17 on Satuday morning GMT10:06
ikoniawas when BUGabundo left10:06
BUGabundoikonia: according to my logs, it was a bit after that10:06
BUGabundo1:3110:06
ikoniaok - 10:06
BUGabundobut ok10:06
ikoniaso there we go about 8 hours then10:07
elkyikonia, now, we calculate how many hours ago that was.10:08
ikoniaI'm not doing more maths10:08
BUGabundobrb. ping me when something new comes out of this.10:08
BUGabundothanks10:08
ikoniaBUGabundo: lets summarises then10:08
ikoniaBUGabundo: the ban won't be lifted at this time if you could stay out for a another few days and come back to discuss it then that would be most appreciated10:09
BUGabundohow long is "few days"?10:09
BUGabundoI already stayed the requested weekend10:09
ikoniaa few days is a few days - come back in 210:09
BUGabundothere is no guarantee that after said few days10:10
ikoniawe'll chat about it then 10:10
ikoniathere is no guarantee correct10:10
BUGabundowe won't have this discussion again10:10
ikoniaok10:10
BUGabundook10:10
BUGabundosee you in 48 hours10:10
ikoniaok10:10
BUGabundothank you all for your time10:10
* BUGabundo sets autologin for +1 OFF10:10
BUGabundodone10:10
ikoniathere is a part fault on my part on that that I did an IP ban rather than host, but as his host normally doesn't change and his nick sometimes does, it seemed the right thing10:11
elkythere is no fault on your behalf. he knows full well what he did10:13
elkywhen he failed to convince us that his host didn't change, he then decided to lie about swapping computers around in an attempt to make it seem innocent.10:13
gnomefreakhe changes back and forth between PCs due to testing network-manager he is always talking about it in #ubuntu-mozillateam since asac is the maintainer(no im not making excusses for him, i agree with the ban for most part) he uses asac's PPA for n-m and right at this time the rc build is borked(that much i do know becuase there are 4 people testing it and all have smae problem with wifi and general connects10:16
gnomefreakdamn too long10:16
ikoniagnomefreak: what do you suggest ?10:17
ikoniagnomefreak: his IP has never changed in over a week of this testing10:17
ikonia(I checked the log after the ban)10:17
ikoniathen it changes straight after the ban10:17
ikoniagnomefreak: I'm %100 open to suggestions10:17
gnomefreakikonia: i didnt think about that, since i didnt see most of what he has done, either im not here or i too caught up in SM and sunbird bugs10:18
ikoniagnomefreak: what he does is minor, it's not a big deal, thats the real problem, its the fact that when he gets busted it turns into a pain and argues it pedantically10:18
gnomefreakright now asac and him are talking about the way the words come out10:18
ikoniahe knows english well enough to make childish arguments10:19
ikonia"you said keep out for the weekend, I didn't come in on the weekend, just Friday"10:19
ikoniathats the problem, he constantly takes the argumentative standpoint10:19
* gnomefreak doesnt care if he is in +1 since i deal with him in #ubuntu-mozillateam, however on his behalf he does help alot in there10:19
ikoniaon pathetic arguments10:19
ikoniaI don't doubt his contributions, that's why it's frustrating10:20
ikoniabut thats also his argument10:20
ikonia"I help so you can't ban me"10:20
ikonia"do you know how much I do" etc etc10:20
ikoniahis contibutions are solid, no debate 10:20
Myrttiehhehhehhehe10:20
gnomefreakgive me a sec i want to see where the topic has gone to10:20
MyrttiI find the combination of his being vocal ubuntu evangelist and his attitude destructive more than anything10:21
Myrttis/$/else/10:21
Myrttiif he would have been my first contact to Ubuntu... *hrrhrhrhrhrhhrhr*10:22
ikoniagnomefreak: FYI: - I'm happy to remove the ban, I just want him to be straight 10:22
gnomefreakasac > BUGabundo: one rule: before hitting enter: think again10:22
gnomefreakwe were talking about it but he left keyboard maybe disconnected i didnt see the part after bye10:22
ikoniaand he lies10:23
ikoniathats frustrating also10:23
ikoniainstead of just being up front10:23
ikoniahe posted a link (again he's been asked to stop advertising his groups"10:23
gnomefreakgive him 24 hours longer, if he does join +1 keep an eye out for the above behavour if its good lift ban?10:23
ikoniait said something like "our group http://blah.com is doing some testing"10:23
ikoniahe wont join +1 now it's a nick ban10:23
bazhangI'll repeat , as my questions seem to have been overlooked or missed:10:24
bazhangis the stalking situation in -women sorted yet?10:24
bazhangalso, is ban evasion now okay?10:24
* gnomefreak rethinks. for the most part outside of devel-discuss list adn #ubuntu-mozillateam other than that i look at +1 when i see him talk. so im not able to give suggestions10:25
gnomefreakbazhang: no10:25
Myrttibazhang: it's still pending...10:25
Myrttidon't know what to think about the current situation10:25
ikoniagnomefreak: evern after being told to stop trying to join and come back on Monday he tried to join +1 two more times and got forrwarded to -ops10:26
ikoniagnomefreak: there is no argument for that - bazhang told him on Saturday to stop trying to join, and he tried two more times throughout the day 10:26
bazhanghttp://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/20081207.html.gz  [groovyOrange] (n=Username@217.8.236.161): Real name10:26
Myrttiapparently some google search results return Ubuntu women as the first result to http://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20successfully%20troll%20a%20channel%20on%20irc&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t10:26
gnomefreakwhen he comes back i would like to discuss this further with him on his attitude as well as the ban, (why and what can be done on his behalf10:26
ikoniagnomefreak: sure10:27
ikoniabazhang: what channel is that in ?10:27
gnomefreakMyrtti: women are more important than guys :)10:27
bazhangas the above shows, groovyorange is clearly sport1, sp0rtily, etc10:27
ikoniacan we remove grooveyorange - it's just one thing after another thing10:27
bazhangikonia, groovyorange is in -ot, long time ban evader/stalker10:27
ikoniayes, so he needs removing10:28
ikoniaor reporting to freenode for persistant ben evasion10:28
ikoniawhat ever10:28
bazhangit has been posted here and @mark'd; whatever you (with access) choose to do 10:29
bazhangit seems that ban evasion is always wrong, especially when combined with the horrible stalking he has done.10:29
Myrttihappiness is warm fuzzy slippers in the morning10:29
elkywhat happened to being able to vote down google results, too?10:40
elkyah, i'm not signed in, that's why10:41
elkybazhang, grossgrape is in -ot. is this a known bug?10:50
bazhangelky, he is a ban evader, as mc44 was able to uncover, same guy who drove Lynoure out of the channel and a really creepy character.10:51
elkybazhang, grossgrape is not hynix10:51
elkyhynix is who drove lynoure away iirc10:52
Myrttino10:53
Myrttisportily is10:53
gnomefreakikonia: how about make ban for 24 hours and unban him as a trial run?10:55
elkybazhang, i actually cannot find grossgrape's ban in -ot10:59
bazhangelky, in the btracker under sp0rtily11:02
elkyeternaljoy is actually banned still11:02
elkybazhang, i am looking at the Actual Ban List11:02
elkybazhang, what host/ip am i looking for?11:02
Myrttinetsplits...11:05
bazhangelky, there are three I can see: 217.118.79.35 , 217.8.236.16511:06
bazhangand asus@217.* (not to be confused with asustek)11:06
elkythere's also a 217.8.236.21011:07
bazhangaha11:07
bazhangI was looking at btracker for most of the time.11:08
elkyi think it's time to re-ban and clear out those ones11:08
elkywhich we cant do until he shows up next time11:08
elkysince he'll have a different IP then11:08
bazhangis maco joining here since the situation in -women is still unresolved?11:09
bazhangsykopomp admitted to trolling, then immediately backtracked on it, blaming all on one individual (bruenig)11:10
elkyit's not going to be resolved whilever we dont actually have a reason to boot the twit11:10
bazhang:/11:10
elkyi did not see that. i got told to leave him.11:10
elkyit's now too late to backflip11:10
bazhangso he is basically holding that channel hostage11:10
elkybazhang, welcome to what it's like to be a woman in these places. i'm currently out of favour with people in my lug because a 15yrold kid objected to explicit /me's, the president supported the objection, and after they were both growled at, i responded in detailed support of their objections. of course, *I* am the evil one there.11:14
elkyi'm the one who gets 'oh, look, it's the self-appointed irc police' ragequits because of it.11:15
bazhangthe victimizer becomes the victim. wth.11:15
elkyyep11:17
elkyoh, and get this, apparantly saying 'good girl' is more offensive than the precursory /action of patting a female chatter's 'fanny' (remembering that it means front *or* back depending on where you are)11:19
bazhangugh11:19
elkyyeah. this is an org i'm volunteering to be secretary of11:21
bazhangthat is insane11:22
elkyyeah. i mean.. how dare i11:22
pleia2elky: fwiw, I added maco to the ops list in -women, but she keeps dropping off so I'm not sure she got my /msg telling her (and I'm still travelling so I'm not going to be around much)11:27
elkypleia2, there's a few others that might be worth it too11:28
pleia2added hypa7ia the other day11:28
elkygood, that's who i was thinking11:29
elkynightrose too maybe? even gareth? see if they want11:30
pleia2nightrose is on it11:30
elkypleia2, jono too if he wants11:30
elkypleia2, she just sits and flails then, heh11:30
pleia2heh11:31
elkymight be worth a reminder email of who the ops are, and what to do if poo hits the fan11:31
pleia2added gareth and nikkiana11:32
pleia2yeah11:32
bazhangthat channel is loaded for bear11:32
* pleia2 gets dragged back to working11:33
jussi01how the heck do I decrypt a .pgp file? </grumble>11:47
* Myrtti grumbles as well11:59
elkyMyrtti, check my twitter/jaiku/identica/facebook update12:00
ubottuWatchBot called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (banlist is filling up in #ubuntu: 502)12:01
Myrttihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/135979/12:02
elkyso we know who to blame?12:03
ikoniayou12:03
ikoniaobviously12:03
Myrttiyeah, floodbots12:04
ikoniaMyrtti: did you enjoy the UK ?12:05
Myrttiikonia: I am enjoying it very much12:06
ikoniayou're still here ?12:06
Myrttithough we're planning a trip to Dublin for the weekend12:06
Myrttiyup12:06
ikoniaooh nice12:06
Myrttistill haven't bought a ticket back12:06
ikoniathought you where back this week12:06
* ikonia calls imigration12:06
ikoniaelky: +o -ot12:06
Myrttiikonia: I'll prolly fly back in May, taking D with me12:07
ikoniawow, are you really staying that long ?12:07
Myrttiprobably, not sure though12:07
MyrttiI unpacked my bags yesterday :-)12:08
Myrtti"yay, you're not a guest anymore"12:08
ikoniaI think I've cracked bullgard4's disguise in +1 bullgard512:08
ikoniaMyrtti: wow12:08
ikoniaMyrtti: so you're here for a while, very nice12:08
bazhangloveisall (n=app1e@loft1436.serverloft.com  new iteration of grow-as-nutcase13:02
bazhangleft a foul message and quit13:02
ikoniacan we ban serverloft.com ?13:03
ikoniathe only people I've seen on it are trolls13:03
ikoniaand there are bans on other known shell hosts in BT 13:03
Myrttisome of us have banned whole hosts before13:03
ikoniaexactly13:03
Myrttilike netcollect.org etc13:04
bazhangI banned most of canada once13:04
Myrtti/mode +b *.pl13:04
ikoniathere is only one other guy on the whole of freenode using serverloft13:04
bazhangwas a mistake though13:04
ikoniadue to groovy-$fruit and a few others I'd suggest banning it13:04
jussi01I dont see why not, we have silenceisdefeat banned...(or whatever it is, cant remember)13:06
ikoniajussi01: as this guy is a constant pain and as no others seem to juse it it seems sensible13:07
bazhangthey join in -ot still13:07
Myrttijussi01: silenceisdefeat provides free shell accounts, so it's practically an open proxy13:07
* jussi01 is too tired/stressed to actually think properly about it now13:07
ikoniajussi01: have a beer, feet up and enjoy your good win 13:08
ikoniajussi01: whill it out13:08
ikoniachill13:08
jussi01ikonia: no no no... too much work to do for launch next week13:08
jussi01and will someone please tell me how to get more fonts! *grumble*13:09
jussi01ive got msttcorefonts13:09
ikoniaput them in the font dir - fc-cache 13:09
ikoniathat simple13:09
bazhanghttp://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/465-free-fonts-for-ubuntu/13:11
Myrttijussi01: apt-cache search ttf|grep ^ttf13:11
Myrttihth, hand13:11
jussi01hrm... I wonder why we dont have a nice meta package for fonts :/13:12
macoikonia, elky: about #u-w, when i came in here, they were being obnoxious. after amaranth joined and jono, and i wast alone trying to defend the channel, they quieted down. i still disagree with jono's idea that #u-w is over-sensitive if we find being arses a reason to kick someone out13:12
ikoniamaco: I've no idea what happened, I wasn't there, but I'm aware that one of the people is a serial issue in multiple #ubuntu channels13:13
jussi01bazhang: that doesnt apply for intrepid :/13:14
elkymaco, i dont think he realises that it's not being over-sensitive, it's about preserving the safeness of the channel13:15
MyrttiI wish there was atleast one channel where I could be safe from idiots13:15
bazhangjussi01, the ppa? as the link says you can browse the site and install the ones you want, there are links on the ubuntu wiki for fonts as well13:15
maco;)13:15
MyrttiI seem to be the idiot stalker magnet13:15
bazhanghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts13:16
macojussi01: i can think of 3 packages that collectively get you > 300 fonts13:16
jussi01maco: names please?13:16
macoand of course i dont have them installed right now...13:16
Myrttittf-larabie ?13:17
macottf-larabie-deco ttf-larabie-straight ttf-larabie-uncommon13:17
macoyeah those13:17
jussi01thanks!13:17
bazhangwth13:18
bazhangjust banned cristi_ yesterday13:18
bazhangshe is back to spamming again13:18
ubottubazhang called the ops in #kubuntu (justinnfx)13:19
macoew...im gonna part now so my morbid curiosity doesnt send me to see why the bot's calling y'all now13:22
jussi01mrgh13:38
jussi01I need the "minion pro" font. anyone know how to get it? 13:39
* jussi01 is having a frustrating day13:39
* Myrtti has to file three weeks worth of hours, makes a silent suicide over the intranet13:39
ubottujussi01 called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (ikanobori)13:43
jussi01right13:43
jussi01who did that. 13:43
jussi01?13:43
jussi01!-amaranth13:43
ubottuamaranth is <alias> ops - added by Amaranth on 2008-01-16 10:34:19 - last edited by LjL on 2009-03-19 02:50:0113:43
jussi01!no, amaranth is <reply> stabitty-stab13:44
ubottuI'll remember that jussi0113:44
Amaranth!forget amaranth13:44
ubottuI'll forget that, Amaranth13:44
* Amaranth stabs jussi0113:44
jussi01hehe13:44
* jussi01 hugs Amaranth13:45
bazhang:/13:45
jussi01LjL: that wasnt real funny IMHO. please dont do it again. 13:48
jussi01!-ops-#ubuntu-offtopic13:49
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:49
jussi01heh13:49
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !lie is <reply> We draw the line at lying. We're happy to accomodate most confessions, but outright lying to us is Doing It Wrong.13:52
mneptoksometimes i miss -offtopic.14:06
mneptokthen the drugs start working.14:06
elkymneptok, you might get amusement from my latest blog post.14:18
* elky goes to bed14:18
mneptokelky: please queue for the breathalyzer before using the toilet.14:46
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, ikanobori said: !ikanobori is <reply> Caramell Dansen! see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_DV9b0x7v4 for further win.15:49
ikonia!ikanobori is <reply> you should get a more unique nick 16:46
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, ikonia said: !ikanobori is <reply> you should get a more unique nick16:46
ikonia;)16:46
MyrttiARGH17:07
Myrtti/o\17:07
* Myrtti just sent a patch for the "source" Perl code to the customer when she was asked to send the patched "binary"17:08
Myrttile sigh17:08
Tm_Thehe17:09
MyrttiI iz not happee17:10
Tm_Tjust got Ronja sleeping <317:21
Tm_Tnow I need to find a way to sync with Exchange server properly...17:22
LjLikonia: eh, it's unique enough, it's just that we're all used to typing "iko"... :)17:29
Tm_TLjL: you mean "ik" ?17:29
LjLTm_T: no i think i actually type "iko"TAB (although as it's the case with this things, if i concentrate on it i cannot quite be sure i'm doing it as i usually would)17:32
LjLTm_T: it's like when i try to type "numero" (number) in italian - i often end up typing "numbero"17:33
Tm_Taye17:33
LjLah so it wasn't just me getting the impression that cristi_'s been trolling in the past couple of days17:46
Seeker`what is the syntax for a channel specific factoid?23:01
Pricey.!factoid-23:02
Pricey#channel23:02
Priceybah23:02
PriceyYou get what I mean.23:02
Seeker`.!factoid-#ubuntu-cym for example?23:02
Priceyyep, without the . of course23:02
Seeker`!test-#ubuntu-cym is test23:03
ubottuI'll remember that, Seeker`23:03
Seeker`ubottu: forget !test-#ubuntu-cym23:03
ubottuI know nothing about !test-#ubuntu-cym yet, Seeker`23:03
Seeker`how do you make it forget channel specific factoids23:04
Seeker`ubottu: forget test-#ubuntu-cym23:04
ubottuI'll forget that, Seeker`23:04
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)23:43
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)23:43

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