[03:25] <jimisrvrox_> hey guys I got network manager to see my card and have a signal and all BUT for whatever reason I cannot seem to connect to my router...im confused because ive installed the drivers and all but idk
[03:27] <cody-somerville> When you say connect to your router, do you mean connect to your network or connect to your router's web admin interface via a web browser?
[03:32] <jimisrvrox_> connect to the network..
[05:32] <narothepharoh> how do i run themes on xfce desktop?
[05:32] <forces> run?
[05:32] <forces> you have to install themes
[05:32] <forces> not run it
[05:33] <narothepharoh> I downloaded a couple how do i install?
[05:33] <forces> copy into your .themes directory
[05:34] <narothepharoh> copy the whole folder?
[05:34] <forces> /usr/share/themes
[05:35] <forces> if you have icons
[05:35] <forces> /usr/share/icons
[05:36] <narothepharoh> there is a bunch of themes there already how do i check them out?
[05:37] <forces> just copy your theme there
[05:37] <narothepharoh> it wont let me paste
[05:37] <forces> root?
[05:38] <narothepharoh> yes
[05:38] <forces> you must read the user guides
[05:38] <forces> !noob
[05:38] <forces> !manual
[05:38] <forces> !guides
[05:38] <forces> !user
[05:38] <forces> !new
[05:38] <forces> there
[05:39] <narothepharoh> I am set as root user anyways how do i use the themes that are in that folder
[05:39] <forces> go to xfce configuration
[05:39] <forces> in x menu
[05:40] <forces> !theme
[05:40] <forces> !themes
[05:40] <forces> read the installation intruccion
[05:40] <forces> dont be silly
[05:41] <narothepharoh> dude there is no instruction im not stupid just dont know where all this shit is where is the x menu?
[05:42] <forces> O.O
[05:42] <forces> your welcome
[05:44] <narothepharoh> dude youre a dick I thought this was to help people out not put them down grow up and learn some patience im sure you werent pro at first either
[05:45] <forces> hmm
[05:45] <forces> im an english learning
[05:45]  * forces se expresa mejor en español
[05:46] <forces> no entendi ni un carajo de lo que quisiste decir
[05:46] <narothepharoh> Semon Puto
[05:48] <forces> es lo único que les enseñan ahi
[05:48] <forces> lol
[05:48] <forces> y es simon
[05:48] <forces> no semon
[05:49] <forces> y putis no es una ofensa
[05:49] <forces> :)
[05:53] <narothepharoh> have fun here by yourself someone helped me already you should be banned from here
[14:40] <tingle> how can i open a pptx file whit xubuntu
[14:43] <crauser> tingle, you can't
[14:43] <crauser> you have to install openoffice
[14:43] <crauser> I did it with openoffice 3
[14:44] <crauser> I think openoffice2 can't open pptx, but u can try
[14:52] <bradley__> hi.  i have an SD card that i want to mount on my eee pc but i don't know how.  could someone give me some tips?
[14:53] <forces> mount /dev/sdax
[14:53] <bradley__> ok
[14:53] <bradley__> i will give that a try thanks
[14:54] <bradley__> should i do that with 'sudo'?
[14:54] <forces> not should
[14:54] <forces> you have
[14:54] <bradley__> haha ok
[14:55] <bradley__> it gave me this warning:
[14:55] <bradley__> [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[14:55] <bradley__> mount: can't find /dev/sdax in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[14:55] <forces> you dont have to use sda
[14:55] <forces> use you divice
[14:56] <forces> look for it with fdisk -l
[14:56] <forces> sda = first HDD primary
[14:56] <forces> your memory can be sdb1
[14:56] <forces> or sdc1
[14:58] <bradley__> it didn't show up with fdisk -l
[14:58] <forces> sudo fdisk -l
[14:59] <forces> ele
[14:59] <bradley__> yes
[14:59] <forces> el
[14:59] <forces> not 1, not one
[14:59] <bradley__> sda1 is the OS
[15:00] <bradley__> sdb1 is my home directory
[15:00] <bradley__> and that is all it showed
[15:02] <OvezirTheBest> Aloha brotha'z
[15:12] <slow-motion> hi
[15:15] <OvezirTheBest> xubuntu better than ubuntu?
[15:16] <forces> the question is
[15:16] <forces> xfce is better than gnome?
[15:16] <slow-motion> yes and your penis is 2cm larger when using it
[15:17] <OvezirTheBest> xfce worst:D
[15:17] <OvezirTheBest> Sorry brotha I have a big cock dick:D
[15:17] <forces> !trolls
[15:18] <forces> !troll
[15:18] <OvezirTheBest> No I am not a troll
[15:18] <forces> !kill
[15:18] <forces> !admin
[15:18] <forces> !admins
[15:18] <forces> xD
[15:18] <forces> just /ignore
[15:18] <forces> :)
[15:20] <OvezirTheBest> slow-motion are you ready for fight brotha?
[15:20] <slow-motion> that scares me
[15:21] <OvezirTheBest> Right. let's come fight dude
[15:22] <OvezirTheBest> Kocsog pingvinbaszok:D
[15:56] <MoonTiger> hi :)
[15:56] <charlie-tca> Good Morning
[15:57] <MoonTiger> can i ask a question about xubuntu 8.10 here?
[15:58] <tavasti> MoonTiger, that's why this channel is
[15:58] <MoonTiger> ok cool :)
[15:58] <MoonTiger> its a small thing but when i change the theme for the login window it doesnt stick after a reboot
[15:59] <MoonTiger> any clues why?
[15:59] <Slonkie> xubuntu should have a webshop too :(
[16:05] <xenocit> hi hi
[16:05] <charlie-tca> !hi
[16:06] <xenocit> anybody help to me?
[16:06] <charlie-tca> !anybody
[16:07] <xenocit> i like install xmms player on xubuntu 8.10
[16:08] <charlie-tca> Go to Applications -> System -> Synaptic Package Manager
[16:08] <charlie-tca> Search for xmms player
[16:08] <charlie-tca> left click the little box on the left, click apply
[16:15] <zoredache> I believe xmms is deprecated
[16:18] <mosalo> if the regular intrepid live cd won't boot
[16:18] <mosalo> will trying the alternate cd make a difference?
[16:18] <zoredache> perhaps....
[16:18] <charlie-tca> might. What is it doing? did it pass the integrity check?
[16:18] <zoredache> what exactly do you mean by won't boot
[16:19] <mosalo> yea it sure did, i installed successfully on my laptop now i'm trying with my older emachine desktop
[16:19] <mosalo> the emachine just doesnt want to boot from the cd even though i chose it as #1 priority in boot menu
[16:20] <zoredache> can you read other cds?
[16:20] <mosalo> 90% sure i'll double check
[16:27] <mosalo> ya i can read cds in xp just fine
[16:29] <mosalo> so what do you think is the problem?
[16:30] <mosalo> can I force it to boot from a floppy & then to cd?
[16:34] <MoonTiger> so nobody has an idea why i cant change the login window theme then?
[17:07] <Mat-Cauthon> um... for some reason, when i connect my external hdd it's called sdc/sdc1 now, when earlier it was always called sdb... anyone have an idea why that could be the case?
[17:07] <charlie-tca> Did you add a drive or usb device?
[17:07] <zoredache> maybe sdb is being used by some other device
[17:07] <Mat-Cauthon> i don't have any device called sdb at the moment, no
[17:09] <Mat-Cauthon> i did disconnect the hdd while it was still running before though, was messing around while trying to get automount to work
[17:09] <zoredache> that probably would be it... The kernel still thinks sdb is being used.  Reboot, and it will probably be better
[17:10] <Mat-Cauthon> mmmh... okay, i'll give it a try :]
[17:10] <forces> os[Linux 2.6.28-11-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "jaunty" 9.04] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 74.3% free] disk[Total: 227.8GB, 79.8% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[17:10] <zoredache> you really should avoid disconnecting mounted filesystems
[17:14] <kpomeroy> Hi, I'm new to IRC and fairly new to Xubuntu, and I am having a problem that I'm hoping someone could help point me in the right direction
[17:15] <Mat-Cauthon> hmm, it's back to sdb/sdb1 now
[17:15] <zoredache> !ask
[17:15] <Mat-Cauthon> but for some reason the file sdc does still exist ;)
[17:16] <kpomeroy> My top and bottom panel has disappeared and I can't open the panel setting in settings manager. What should I do to restore it?
[17:17] <zoredache> only the top panel has disappeared, or all of them have disappeared?
[17:17] <Mat-Cauthon> try alt+f2 and enter xfce4-panel
[17:17] <kpomeroy> all of them, and when I click on the panel button in the setting manager nothing happens
[17:18] <kpomeroy> There is an error when I type that command. I get: "he command "xfce-panel" failed to run:
[17:18] <kpomeroy> Failed to execute child process "xfce-panel" (No such file or directory)"
[17:19] <zoredache> xfce4-panel
[17:19] <Mat-Cauthon> don't forget the 4 ;)
[17:19] <kpomeroy> ok that worked thats so much
[17:19] <Mat-Cauthon> what did you do before it disappeared?
[17:20] <kpomeroy> I don't know, I had been idle for a long time in hibernation mode and I came back and the panel disappeared.
[17:21] <kpomeroy> I think this happened once before and  I just reinstalled the distro, I didn't want to do that this time
[17:27] <Slonkie> how do i install .bin files?
[17:37] <chewit> can anyone tell me why xubuntu uses Thunderbird over Claw Mail
[17:38] <chewit> I would have thought claw mail would be better, since its GTK, uses Tango theme, its much faster and lighter, has the same functionality
[17:38] <charlie-tca> Probably because in the past, claws-mail was Sylpheed unstable
[17:40] <chewit> oh
[17:40] <chewit> any change xubuntu will use claw mail
[17:41] <chewit> thunderbird doesn't integrate well and is very slow and heavy
[17:41] <chewit> chance*
[17:41] <charlie-tca> not for jaunty, but it could be suggested for karmic
[17:41] <chewit> ok
[17:42] <charlie-tca> Claws-mail does appear to be pretty much stable now. And, it is it's own application now
[17:43] <knome> chewit, maybe add a bug in launchpad so we can make it a wishlist and discuss about it for karmic
[17:43] <knome> (and to remember us to do it)
[17:44] <chewit> ok, will do
[17:44] <knome> thanks
[17:57] <chewit> done - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/claws-mail/+bug/347440
[17:57] <MoonTiger> did anyone know about the login window theme changing problem btw?
[17:58] <charlie-tca> MoonTiger: what version of Xubuntu?
[17:58] <charlie-tca> chewit: What if we don't use Tango icons?
[17:59] <chewit> change the theme
[17:59] <MoonTiger> charlie-tca, 8.10
[17:59] <chewit> there are quite a few different themes
[17:59] <charlie-tca> okay
[18:00] <charlie-tca> MoonTiger: Bringing up 8.10 to see
[18:00] <charlie-tca> A little slow here, got two installs going, too
[18:01] <MoonTiger> charlie-tca, thnx
[18:05] <charlie-tca> Which theme are you trying to use?
[18:06] <MoonTiger> charlie-tca, any theme really ... i change it and it takes for logon / logoff but when i reboot it goes back to some win95 looking horror
[18:08] <charlie-tca> Might be it is changing to random on the restart. If you check in the settings -> Login Window, is it still on "Selected only"?
[18:09] <MoonTiger> i dont see that option
[18:11] <charlie-tca> Applications -> Settings -> Login Window, Local tab, Theme
[18:11] <charlie-tca> or, where are you setting this?
[18:12] <Slor> Hey guys - how do I configure apt to use a web proxy?
[18:12] <MoonTiger> i dont have a "theme" option on that tab
[18:12] <MoonTiger> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[18:12] <MoonTiger> my bad doh!
[18:12] <MoonTiger> sorry for being a dummy
[18:12] <MoonTiger> :|
[18:13] <MoonTiger> oh but wait
[18:13] <charlie-tca> No problem, is that where you set it?
[18:13] <MoonTiger> thats not it
[18:13] <MoonTiger> if i have it set to plain
[18:13] <MoonTiger> in the log in window itself i can select a theme from the dropdown
[18:14] <MoonTiger> and it used to stick past reboots
[18:14] <MoonTiger> now it doesnt
[18:16] <charlie-tca> I would suggest filing a bug on that. Make sure you give a good description for how to reproduce it. It sounds like a regression if it did work and is now broken
[18:17] <MoonTiger> ok thnx
[18:23] <charlie-tca> chewit: your bug is confirmed, don't take it to brainstorm.
[18:26] <chewit> oh
[18:26] <chewit> to late
[18:26] <chewit> just have
[18:26] <chewit> i could remove it
[18:26] <Slor> so, to add a proxy to apt, do I just add a file into /etc/apt/conf.d containing the approprate "acquire" line?
[18:27] <charlie-tca> It just adds more clutter to brainstorm. Xubuntu developers will make the decision anyway.
[18:27] <chewit> ok
[18:27] <chewit> i will try and remove it
[18:28] <charlie-tca> Slor: don't know enough about using proxy
[18:28] <durt> Slor, I believe apt (wget) will use whatever is set as http_proxy in your environment.
[18:30] <Slor> I'll try exporting that in the form of ip:port and see if it takes.
[18:39] <lukinfore> hi
[18:39] <lukinfore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/347455
[18:40] <lukinfore> any idea how to trace what happens? maybe some command-line switching tool
[18:40] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[18:40] <charlie-tca> is worth a try
[18:41] <charlie-tca> Otherwise, an Strace or Valgrind might be helpful
[18:44] <lukinfore> attach X to gdb? or what process?
[18:46] <charlie-tca> aw, *(())* . It ain't gonna work, is it?
[18:47] <charlie-tca> I'm thinking this is going to be more work than it is worth for you. Anything in the ~/.xsession-errors log?
[18:49] <Mat-Cauthon> problem: ever since i disconnected my external hdd while volman-thunar tried to automount it i have an extra entry dev/sdc although i have only 2 hdds (int+ext)
[18:49] <charlie-tca> lukinfore: You need to addd to the report. Which version of Xubuntu?
[18:49] <charlie-tca> you put in that you can't reproduce it? What can't be reproduced? Give specific steps to make this happen, 1. 2. 3.
[18:50] <Mat-Cauthon> if my external one is not connected at startup that extra entry is called dev/sdb and my external becomes dev/sdc when i connect it, which is annoying :<
[18:50] <Mat-Cauthon> any hints how i can get rid of this? rebooting didn't help
[18:51] <charlie-tca> Check /etc/fstab for any entry about it?
[18:51] <charlie-tca> Also see if there is a folder in /media for both drives
[18:52] <lukinfore> oh, sure, i would, it's jaunty
[18:52] <lukinfore> and X crash can't be reproduced
[18:53] <charlie-tca> But everything else can be reproduced?
[18:53] <Mat-Cauthon> no entry in fstab
[18:53] <Mat-Cauthon> and nothing in /media either, except a folder i use for manual mounting
[18:54] <charlie-tca> I'm out of ideas. Next person?
[18:56] <lukinfore> believed it was really understandable
[18:56] <lukinfore> yes, everythins else is reproducable
[18:56] <charlie-tca> lukinfore: anything in /var/log/Xorg.log or Xorg.0.log or syslog?
[18:57] <lukinfore> nothing interestind as in .xsession-errors
[18:57] <charlie-tca> It might be just me. But I have to try to reproduce it usually, so I ask silly questions
[19:08] <Talarion> Hi there. I just want to set up my newly installed Xubuntu the way my windows is. I`ve got a problem setting up a second screen for a dual view desktop. If i try to save the new configuration to the X-Server configuration file, there is a Error "Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'." What can i do?
[19:09] <charlie-tca> Use "sudo" to create the new file?
[19:11] <Talarion> sry im a noob. I dont used the terminal for that. i try to change it with the graphical surface.
[19:13] <charlie-tca> You won't be able to backup or save any file in /etc/X11 unless you do it as root. To do it with the graphical interface, try hitting F2, type "gksu thunar", hit enter
[19:14] <charlie-tca> This gives you a root copy of Thunar and if you click to edit a file in it, you are editing as root
[19:17] <Talarion> I was triing it with the Nvidea Program from the "Nvidia accelarated graphics driver"
[19:18] <charlie-tca> I don't know anything about that.
[19:19] <Talarion> how do i restart the x server to test if something changed?
[19:19] <TheSheep> alt+ctrl+backspace, but it will log you out
[19:19] <Talarion> without restart, because i want to learn something :)
[19:19] <charlie-tca> either ctrl+alt+backspace or logout/login
[19:19] <Talarion> ok thanks
[19:22] <manuel__> no effects sadly
[19:32] <Slonkie> How can i remove Pidgin and transmission
[19:32] <Slonkie> I can't remove them in the "Add/Remove"
[19:33] <charlie-tca> Use Applications -> System -> Synaptic Package Manager
[19:34] <Slonkie> ah smart
[19:34] <charlie-tca> They may have additional dependencies you will have removed also, though
[19:34] <Slonkie> Tought i were only able to install apps from there :) Thanks
[19:34] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:35] <Slonkie> So now i just wanna know if anyone got any experience in pyNeighborhood ?
[19:36] <Slonkie> trying to mount my windows network share trough it, but it just says failed to mount.
[19:37] <lukinfore> so
[19:38] <lukinfore> attaching x to gdb from x was mistake
[19:38] <charlie-tca> I could see that.
[19:39] <lukinfore> when second server running nothing happens
[19:39] <charlie-tca> What about the already running backtrace?
[19:39] <lukinfore> it handle switching correctly
[19:39] <lukinfore> one question
[19:39] <charlie-tca> I'll try
[19:40] <lukinfore> how to make apt-get treat install targer as regexp?
[19:40] <lukinfore> *target
[19:40] <charlie-tca> I don't know. Maybe someone else does?
[19:40] <lukinfore> so when i try xserver-*dbg
[19:41] <lukinfore> it treat as package
[19:42] <charlie-tca> You did try a restart of the system, right?
[19:42] <charlie-tca> to see if the bug came back...
[19:42] <lukinfore> yep, one still near here
[19:43] <charlie-tca> This isn't in a virtual machine, is it?
[19:44] <lukinfore> no, real desktop
[19:45] <charlie-tca> Can you add your hardware, the make, model of the computer and the video card to the report? I have a feeling it is going to be against the xorg driver spcecific to the card
[19:45] <charlie-tca> s/spcecific/specific
[19:51] <lukinfore> or it gone away, lol
[19:51] <lukinfore> maybe cause of second Xes
[19:51] <charlie-tca> maybe
[19:52] <lukinfore> what do you mean model of computer?
[19:52] <lukinfore> full hardware profile?
[19:53] <charlie-tca> yeah, like make=Dell model=Optiplex,
[19:53] <lukinfore> it is desktop
[19:53] <charlie-tca> perhaps a sudo lspci log
[19:53] <charlie-tca> lspci -vv
[19:54] <lukinfore> with different firms component
[19:54] <lukinfore> ok
[19:54] <charlie-tca> The log, then. It gives all the information
[20:02] <brad_> Hello I have recently installed Xubuntu and i am getting having some trouble... I have some drivers for my video card on another partition and fdisk -l returned cannot open /dev/sda
[20:15] <mib_qlvol6> help!  i'm in the computer store and i need a printer for an important project tonite ... looking at hp deskjet d1520, can anyone tell me if this will work with my ubuntu/xubuntu boxes?  i don't find it in the list of printers at
[20:15] <mib_qlvol6> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp
[20:18] <mib_qlvol6> i have like no budget for this, but the printer is $24 on sale and i think that will be cheaper than going to kinko's and printing 100 pages
[20:20] <charlie-tca> Kinko's is more than 25 cents a page now?
[20:20] <mib_qlvol6> hey charlie, whatever it is, its plus $12 / hour
[20:21] <charlie-tca> I see
[20:21] <mib_qlvol6> i have to retrieve and pull emails sent and received over the last year from lawyer
[20:21] <charlie-tca> You on your own computer at the store?
[20:22] <charlie-tca> You could ask them to let you try the printer
[20:22] <mib_qlvol6> no, on mibbit at one of their terminals
[20:23] <mib_qlvol6> anybody have any luck getting an hp d1520 to work?
[20:24] <zoredache> mib_qlvol6: deskjet printers are not cheaper then kinkos
[20:24] <zoredache> as soon as you buy that
[20:24] <zoredache> as soon as you buy that $80 print cartridge that lasts 400 pages you'll understand
[20:25] <mib_qlvol6> no, the print cartridges are about $20 i think
[20:26] <mib_qlvol6> and they do refills for $10 black ink at walgreens
[20:26] <zoredache> don't think, be sure... and those refils are crap in my experience
[20:27] <zoredache> the problem is that the nozzles get clogged, refilling the ink won't help that...
[20:27] <mib_qlvol6> wonder if i should just buy some ink for my cuz's mac and use it for this project
[20:28] <mib_qlvol6> but i would rather have a printer for the future emergencies ... i never print anything, but this *has* to be printed
[20:29] <mib_qlvol6> does anyone suppose there is a possibility this hp deskjet 1520 might work even if its not on the page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp?
[20:32] <zoredache> http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-D1520
[20:33] <zoredache> it looks  like it may work... If I where you, I would save up and buy a inexpensive laser though
[20:35] <slow-motion> n8
[20:35] <zoredache> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_d1500_series.html
[20:38] <mib_qlvol6> zoredache, so from what i read there it *should* work, huh?  is hplip something already on system or available thru synaptic?
[20:38] <Slonkie> hmm, i'm having trouble getting java to work in firefox in xubuntu
[20:38] <Slonkie> I know theres a need for more information, but i've tried to install the latest from their website, but firefox doesnt use it when i do..
[20:41] <zoredache> mib_qlvol6: it is something you can install I believe
[20:42] <mib_qlvol6> hmmmm... ok, well, thanks for help guys, guess i will go ask about return policy and decide if i want to take this and a $15 printer cartridge that doesn't come with it ... hell it doesn't even come with print cable, but i have usb to peripheral at home
[20:55] <basajaun> hi all
[20:57] <Kasm279> yay, i burned it!
[20:58] <Kasm279> hello?
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Hello
[20:59] <Kasm279> i finally downloaded it and burned it!
[20:59] <charlie-tca> great! what?
[20:59] <Kasm279> xubunt and the edubunt add on
[20:59] <dj_bushido> huzzah? wait, what?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> good for you.
[21:00] <Kasm279> forgut the "u" on those
[21:00] <basajaun> hi charlie-tca
[21:00] <charlie-tca> hello, basajaun
[21:01] <Kasm279> can i install xubuntu in a dorectory other than /ubuntu?
[21:02] <Kasm279> directory**
[21:02] <charlie-tca> When you install, it creates the directories itself, most of the files go to /
[21:02] <charlie-tca> Perhaps you have /ubuntu under windows?
[21:03] <Kasm279> (i mean install under windows)
[21:03] <Kasm279> i already have kubuntu installed that way
[21:03] <knome> Kasm279, there is no need to install xubuntu then. just add the xubuntu-desktop package from kubuntu.
[21:04] <Kasm279> ok, how?
[21:04] <knome> Kasm279, are you familiar with synaptic?
[21:04] <basajaun> synaptic or the equivalent Kasm279
[21:04] <Kasm279> adept?
[21:04] <knome> Kasm279, adept, yes, for kubuntu.
[21:05] <basajaun> yes sorry Kasm279
[21:05] <Kasm279> kubuntu is the best version of ubuntu that ive tried
[21:05] <knome> Kasm279, just find the package called xubuntu-desktop. it's a meta package and will install everything you would get with a default installation of xubuntu.
[21:05] <Kasm279> ok
[21:06] <Kasm279> it will give me xfce, right?
[21:06] <basajaun> yes
[21:06] <Kasm279> in addition to kde?
[21:06] <knome> Kasm279, exactly.
[21:07] <Kasm279> (lik you can switch between the two?)
[21:07] <knome> Kasm279, yes.
[21:07] <Kasm279> ok
[21:07] <Kasm279> thanks
[21:07] <knome> np. have fun
[21:07] <Kasm279> maybe ill also get gnome
[21:08] <knome> that would be ubuntu-desktop
[21:08] <Kasm279> my screen looks bigger with kubuntu as compared with windows
[21:09] <basajaun> hard to dompare Kasm279
[21:09] <basajaun> compare lol Kasm279
[21:10] <knome> i've got bigger and bigger monitors since i installed xubuntu :P
[21:10] <basajaun> :)
[21:15] <OG1> Hi! I installed Xubuntu 8.04 in my pc, it's an Acer Travelmate 4000, but it's freezing. I can't log in. I used an alternative Cd to install it. What can I do to solve my problem? Should I install some driver? Which one and how? Can someone help me?
[21:16] <basajaun> OG1:  it sounds as if the cd was not complete
[21:17] <Kasm279> xubuntu-desktop isnt there
[21:17] <basajaun> may re-download cd  OG1
[21:19] <basajaun> Kasm279:  check you repositories
[21:19] <Kasm279> sources?
[21:19] <Kasm279> wat needs to be there?
[21:19] <basajaun> yes Kasm279
[21:19] <OG1> I check the cd, i think it's complete.
[21:21] <basajaun> Kasm279: universe  and multiverse I believe
[21:21] <OG1> But i will try to re-download and try again.
[21:21] <OG1> I'll be back soon. :) thanks basajaun
[21:22] <basajaun> you are welcome OG1
[21:22] <Kasm279> universe and multiverse?
[21:23] <knome> !info xubuntu-desktop
[21:23] <zoredache> how much memory does that computer have OG1?
[21:23] <Kasm279> !weather
[21:24] <Kasm279> !you
[21:24]  * Kasm279 is kind of bored
[21:24] <knome> Kasm279, please stop playing with the bot
[21:24] <Kasm279> ok
[21:24] <knome> Kasm279, #xubuntu-offtopic
[21:25] <knome> :)
[21:25] <Kasm279> basajaun, wat is universe and multiverse
[21:26] <OG1> zoredache: 512 MB. :S
[21:26] <charlie-tca> !sources
[21:27] <charlie-tca> Kasm279: see above ^ ^
[21:27] <Kasm279> thanks
[21:27] <charlie-tca> You can click on the links if you cursor over them
[21:27] <basajaun> Acer travelmates were 512 standard and 1.5 processor zoredache  sounds like enough
[21:28] <Kasm279> im on my chatting on my mac
[21:29] <basajaun> OG1:  it should be enough I installed xubuntu for my son yesterday on an old Toshiba with same specs and it runs like a dream
[21:29] <charlie-tca> !ubottu | Kasm279
[21:31] <zoredache> OG1: I was just wanted to know if it was less then 256, which it isn't.  The installer does lots of error checking, if it completed, you should have a good copy of the OS.  A reinstall shouldn't be necessary
[21:32] <OG1> basajaun: It should run like a dream, but I don't know why, it don't.
[21:33] <zoredache> I suspect I would run memtest86 in this case, at let to through at least once pass, just to verify your RAM is good.
[21:34] <zoredache> I suspect I would also try booting to safe mode, and just doing random things for a bit and see if it locks up there
[21:34] <OG1> zoredache: Ok, i will try.
[21:35] <Kasm279> none of hose sites give url's
[21:35] <charlie-tca> URL's to what?
[21:35] <charlie-tca> Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:36] <charlie-tca> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[21:36] <charlie-tca> ??
[21:36] <tomsdale> Gday - I have an old nVidia Gfx (Vanta/Vanta LT) rev15 , nvidia-glx-legacy  doesn't want to install. Should I try installing one of the more recent nvidia packages?
[21:37] <charlie-tca> You could try envy
[21:38] <Kasm279> to the repositorys
[21:38] <zoredache> Kasm279: what release are you looking for  hardy, intrepid?
[21:39] <charlie-tca> Thats because you add repositories to the /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:39] <charlie-tca> They should already be there, just commented out.
[21:39] <Kasm279> ?
[21:40] <Kasm279> im running intrepid
[21:40] <Kasm279> (8.10)
[21:40] <charlie-tca> Kasm279: are in Kubuntu or Xubuntu?
[21:41] <Kasm279> kubuntu
[21:41] <Kasm279> trying to add xfce an gnome to it
[21:41] <charlie-tca> Maybe as them in #kubuntu for help getting universe and multiverse added
[21:41] <Kasm279> ok
[21:41] <Kasm279> did you see the origonal question>
[21:41] <Kasm279> ?
[21:42] <zoredache> I believe you are trying to install the xubuntu-desktop package?
[21:42] <Kasm279> yes
[21:42] <Kasm279> and the ubuntu-desktop package
[21:44] <zoredache> well if you did something weird, and some how trashed it, you may need to repair your /etc/apt/sources.list  here is mine http://pastebin.com/f1eba20ba
[21:45] <Kasm279> can i install the things from the cd's?
[21:46] <tomsdale> charlie-tca: sorry my kde crashed - envy is the installer script for nvidia cards?
[21:46] <zoredache> what do you mean?  Are you asking if you can use a cd as a source of packages?   If you have an alternate-cd then yes
[21:46] <Kasm279> i have the standard cd......
[21:46] <zoredache> you would do an 'apt-cdrom add' while the disk is in to let apt index the disk
[21:47] <zoredache> I don't believe that works for the livecds...
[21:48] <Kasm279> can i add it thru the scorces editor (i saw a  "add cd" button?
[21:48] <Kasm279> )?**
[21:48] <Kasm279> O_O?
[21:48] <zoredache> I think the add button would only work if it was an alternate cd...
[21:48] <knome> !patience
[21:50] <Kasm279> ?= a hand scrathing my head
[21:50] <Kasm279> O_O?
[21:50] <Kasm279> get it?
[21:51] <Kasm279> lol
[21:51] <knome> Kasm279, you can try to add the cd via sources editor, yes.
[21:51] <knome> please calm down.
[21:55] <Kasm279> i wasnt mad
[21:58] <Kasm279> is there an xubuntu version for powerpc bsed machines?
[21:58] <knome> yes, but it's not officially supported
[21:59] <Kasm279> where can i find it?
[21:59] <zoredache> !ppc
[21:59] <Kasm279> (mac os is getting boring)
[22:00] <Kasm279> thank you
[22:00] <Kasm279> !amd
[22:00] <Kasm279> !amd64
[22:00] <Kasm279> ok
[22:00] <tomsdale> !nvidia
[22:00] <Kasm279> !thanks
[22:01] <Kasm279> lol
[22:01] <toni81> xD
[22:08] <basajaun> any luck OG1 ?
[22:09] <Kasm279> !intel
[22:09]  * Kasm279 smacks ubottu for not knowing about intel
[22:09] <Kasm279> !smack
[22:10] <knome> Kasm279, please, you can query ubottu as well.
[22:10] <zoredache> !botabuse
[22:10] <Kasm279> lol
[22:11] <tomsdale> !Shuttleworth
[22:14] <OG1> basajaun: Nothing yet. I'm trying to re-install it.
[22:19] <Dante123> 	                   		  		  hi all, installed xubuntu on a sony vaio rx550.  Under windows there is a special driver that controls the fans so they dont run so high.  In xubuntu they are running at full speed all the time.  I have googled various pages that talk about setting up lm-sensors etc. to control fan.  If/when I get this working- how do I make it permanent or does lm-sensor remember the settings???		 		 			 				____________
[22:23] <knome> Dante123, most possibly it will remember then automatically.
[22:27] <BlueAidan> ﻿alright, so I went back to hardy because of the problems I was having with the intel xorg driver. now I have no sound.
[22:27] <BlueAidan> alsamixer shows valid info
[22:28] <BlueAidan> if I mute/unmute stuff I can hear a pop
[22:43] <dj_bushido> can anybody help me remove a usplash theme?
[22:43] <dj_bushido> I installed one and its buggy and crashy. I am currently in Fedora to try and fix it.
[22:49] <dj_bushido> i can remove the theme, but the kernel needs reconfigured, and that's a problem because I can't execute inside the drive.
[22:50] <dj_bushido> what I need to do is "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)"
[22:55] <dj_bushido> only I am on my Fedora machine
[23:03] <zoredache> dj_bushido: do you have the ubuntu filesystem mounted?
[23:04] <dj_bushido> yeah.
[23:05] <zoredache> dj_bushido: where you not able to boot into safe mode?
[23:06] <zoredache> anyway, you might try running a command like chroot /mountpoint /bin/bash where mountpoint is the folder you have the ubuntu filesystem mounted
[23:07] <zoredache> if that works, then do a 'update-initramfs -u
[23:11] <dj_bushido> i'm getting a lot of "cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied" errors
[23:11] <dj_bushido> even with su
[23:12] <zoredache> when are you getting these errors?
[23:13] <dj_bushido> after the chroot, running the "update" as root is generating the errors
[23:13] <zoredache> tand you have the full command 'update-initramfs -u' ?
[23:14] <zoredache> it probably would be easier if you booted into safe mode....
[23:15] <dj_bushido> will try safe mode. that will let me run startup-manager, right?
[23:15] <zoredache> startup manager?
[23:16] <dj_bushido> nvm. will try the command from safe mode, xubuntu.
[23:16] <dj_bushido> g2g
[23:16] <zoredache> if you are using grub, you could also simply hit 'e' o edit the boot command
[23:16] <zoredache> remove the 'splash'