[00:46] <freeflying> Riddell: yes, kneww it for a while, its a universe fronted for input method
[01:14] <Riddell> freeflying: should we get a package of it for jaunty?
[01:30] <freeflying> Riddell: its too early
[01:47] <daskreech> nixternal: yo
[01:49] <nixternal> yo
[01:51] <daskreech> Whats up?
[01:56] <nixternal> looking for a job :)
[01:56] <daskreech> I heard
[01:56] <daskreech> At least you are shouting loud enough ;)
[01:57] <daskreech> Applied to Kanonikal ?
[01:57] <nixternal> ya...today I applied for 2 jobs per request, just did an impromptu interview for a company relocating to Chicago into the Willis Tower, or for those of you who have no idea what the hell that is, the Sears Tower, and I think the company just might be Willis
[01:58] <nixternal> yes, applied for one at Canonical...I should find out something in the next month or so probably :p
[01:58] <nixternal> at least that's what the email auto reply said :p
[01:59] <daskreech> Thank you for applying your interest is of great importance to our robot
[01:59] <nixternal> lol
[01:59] <daskreech> Nice job you got there nixternal ;-)
[02:00] <nixternal> I feel the need for more ice cream
[02:02] <nixternal> b.d.o is slow as all heck tonight
[02:17] <daskreech> bugs.dogpile.com ?
[02:18] <daskreech> nixternal: How's Konqui ?
[02:24] <nixternal> good for file management
[02:32] <daskreech> nixternal: making a new intro page for it?
[02:34] <nixternal> sudo apt-get --purge would be my intro for it ;p
[02:53] <torkiano> hello all, i get a lot of interrups from my graphic card (intel 965) in powertop. 3D effects are disabled. Anyone with this problem?
[02:53] <torkiano> this only happens in kubuntu, in ubuntu the number of interrups are normal
[02:55] <torkiano> i filled a bug here: bug 347700
[03:40] <daskreech> nixternal: so I'm more or less in your loser position
[03:40] <nixternal> huh?
[03:43] <daskreech> Using Gnome for a month
[09:22] <a|wen> hi agateau! gwenview memory-leaking (kde 4.2.1) after rotating and saving pictures... is that anything you've heard about before?
[09:23] <agateau> a|wen: i am a bit lagging on gwenview bugzilla entries :/ do you have a bug report for this?
[09:25] <a|wen> agateau: haven't got to look for it yet ... just had gwenview use 3 GB of memory yesterday, which kind of indicated that something was wrong
[09:25] <agateau> ouch
[09:26] <agateau> gwenview maintains a cache of images, how large are your pictures?
[09:27] <a|wen> they are roughly 5 mb each (compressed size)
[09:27] <agateau> and what are their resolution?
[09:29] <a|wen> 10 mpixel IIRC
[09:29] <agateau> quite big then
[09:30] <agateau> gwenview keeps uncompressed images in its cache :/
[09:30]  * agateau looks at the cache code
[09:30] <a|wen> i know ... but shouldn't it clear the cache, when you save the images?
[09:31] <a|wen> it seems to just grow and grow when rotating pictures ... even though i save many times along the way
[09:31] <agateau> yes it should
[09:31] <agateau> time to valgrind it a bit
[10:03] <ArmedGeek> so ... who codes for kubuntu here anyhow ?
[10:05] <Riddell> ddd/join
[10:06] <Riddell> tsk
[10:06] <Riddell> hi ArmedGeek, what can we do for you?
[10:11] <ArmedGeek> Riddell: nothing.  i've just seen a lot more questions than answers here the last few days.
[10:12] <ArmedGeek> i'm a big fan of kde, especially the 4.* series
[10:12] <ArmedGeek> very comparable to win7, if you're a kde4 coder, kudos!
[10:13] <ArmedGeek> was actually just curious if kde4 coders were present here
[10:14] <Nightrose> ArmedGeek: they are - just not very active here over the weekend
[10:14] <Riddell> here we are!
[10:14] <ArmedGeek> i understand the 'busy'.  getting into crunch-time with april approaching
[10:14] <ArmedGeek> Riddell: nice to know.  good-damned-job.
[10:15] <Riddell> ArmedGeek: we're looking for beta testing volunteers if you want to help out :)
[10:18] <davmor2> Riddell: I'll get round to it ;)
[10:18] <ArmedGeek> Riddell: i'm more of a coder than user.  I tend to be Mac(hackintosh)->linux->winders user.  mostof the 'user' problems i hear don't relate to me so i'm not sure how much help i could be
[10:18] <ArmedGeek> <-- currently drunk so not entirely coherent
[10:19] <ArmedGeek> i've honestly been away from 'system' stuff long enough that i'm not even familiar with the init system curently in use
[10:35] <hirolau> i use alpha 6 kubuntu 64bit. I must say i love it. One small problem, i cant shut it down, i need to remove the power cable. What files should i get to report the bug?
[10:35] <Riddell> hirolau: how far does it get?
[10:36] <hirolau> screen goes black with a small marker flickering in the top left corner, forever...
[10:36] <Riddell> down to linux then, file a bug on linux I guess
[10:36] <hirolau> ok
[11:19] <freinhard> Riddell: did you fix that systemsettings>printer configuration bug? if no, need a patch?
[11:51] <Riddell> freinhard: which bug?  it probably has lots
[11:52] <Riddell> freinhard: I havn't touched it recently anyway
[11:53] <freinhard> Riddell: i'm trying to get used to launchpad but i'm not sure how codereviews work there. i first need to create a branch of system-config-printers in my lp profile?
[11:55] <freinhard> or are there other ways to propose patches for review?
[11:55] <Riddell> freinhard: pastebin :)
[11:56] <Riddell> I'm busy testing today so may not be responsive on IRC but I'll get it evenutally
[11:58] <seaLne> Nightrose: have you tried installing jaunty on your eee 701?
[11:59] <Nightrose> yes
[11:59] <Nightrose> wifi didn't work and hotkeys
[11:59] <Nightrose> so i went back to intrepid
[12:00] <Nightrose> as the repo i use (array.org) doesn't have jaunty packages yet
[12:00] <seaLne> i don't have a usable system on mine atm and was wondering what to put on it
[12:01] <Nightrose> i'd go with intrepid and array.org
[12:01] <Nightrose> works reasonable well
[12:03] <freinhard> Riddell: not really exciting ;) : http://pastebin.com/m5396392f
[12:11] <Riddell> freinhard: committed thanks, remind me to update the package after beta
[12:20] <freinhard> Riddell: got another one, but that'll take a while ;)
[12:22] <davmor2> Riddell: new alt's are up :)
[12:30] <vorian> @now
[12:30] <vorian> meh
[12:54] <freinhard> Riddell: http://dpaste.com/18432/
[12:58] <Riddell> hmm, auto login doesn't really make sense with oem install
[13:18] <jjesse> nixternal: i uploaded some changes to kubuntu-jaunty docs working on more
[13:20] <seele> did the notification question on the mailing list get resolved? i saw a bunch of "ok"s
[13:27] <Riddell> revert back to the old ugly ones?
[13:29] <Riddell> disable auto-hide would be acceptable if a patch was available
[13:35] <Riddell> davmor2: where do wubi bugs go?
[13:37] <agateau> Riddell: seele: i'm going to have a look at such a patch this afternoon
[13:49] <Tonio_> hi ! does presentation mode work for you in okular ?
[13:51] <freinhard> Tonio_: doesn't work for me. i get that presentation canvas and that's it.
[13:52] <Riddell> yes it does, once I'd ran the kconf_update script for kwin
[13:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: testing...
[13:53] <freinhard> ack
[13:53] <Tonio_> Riddell: isn't that done within startkde ?
[14:01] <JontheEchidna> Apparently there's a fix for WPA-Enterprise in bug 334052
[14:02] <davmor2> Riddell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bugs
[14:02] <Riddell> davmor2: ta, thought so
[14:02] <davmor2> :)
[14:05] <jjesse> Riddell: the packages for the beta are the current daily live correct?
[14:05] <Riddell> jjesse: parse error
[14:05] <jjesse> :)
[14:06] <Riddell> what do you mean?
[14:06] <jjesse> in regards to your blog post, the iso images for testing the beta build are the current cd correct?
[14:06] <Riddell> yes
[14:06] <Riddell> they are expected to be final as much as these things can be expected
[14:06] <jjesse> did that parse better?
[14:06] <Riddell> it did
[14:07] <jjesse> sorry i have taken some cold drugs today
[14:11] <linuksamiko> hello! I just read on jriddell blog that you are looking for some kubuntu beta tester. I'm still not sure if I gone reinstall my computer in the next few days but in case I do I want to know what I can do to find bugs or how to repor a bug if I find one
[14:12] <ainson_> hi all
[14:14] <agateau> Riddell: seele: patch posted on the ml
[14:16] <jjesse> wow fast download as always from cdimages :(  2.6kb/sec :(
[14:17] <ainson_> i want to try akonadi mapi connect...but kubuntu doesn't provide any packages
[14:19] <BUGabundo> hi
[14:19] <BUGabundo> can some one share some love with bug 311521 ?
[14:19] <BUGabundo> the fix is available
[14:20] <BUGabundo> an attemp to port it before, failed some how!
[14:20] <BUGabundo> thanks
[14:25] <Riddell> agateau: that was easy :)
[14:25] <BUGabundo> Riddell: hi
[14:25] <agateau> Riddell: hehe, longest part was to download the deb sources :)
[14:25] <BUGabundo> JontheEchidna: ping
[14:33] <freinhard> Riddell: you don't get a "apply" button if you change just a checkbox in system-config-printer, fix: http://dpaste.com/18432/
[14:41] <cbr> has anyone succeeded in running kernel mode setting and plymouth in ubuntu?
[14:43] <JontheEchidna> BUGabundo: pong
[14:43] <BUGabundo> hi JontheEchidna
[14:43] <BUGabundo> can you look over
[14:43] <BUGabundo> bug 311521 ?
[14:43] <JontheEchidna> I just did
[14:43] <BUGabundo> you once touched it
[14:43] <BUGabundo> ahh ok
[14:43] <BUGabundo> nice
[14:43] <JontheEchidna> It looks like the "real" fix will be in KDE 4.2.2
[14:43] <BUGabundo> are the fix now in jaunty?
[14:43] <BUGabundo> ahh
[14:44] <vorian> oh, speaking of which
[14:44] <BUGabundo>  ok nice to know!
[14:44] <BUGabundo> JontheEchidna: will it be build today ?
[14:44] <JontheEchidna> ?
[14:44] <BUGabundo> or will be seating in queue for review?
[14:44] <JontheEchidna> KDE 4.2.2 won't be tagged for a few more days yet
[14:45] <BUGabundo> trunk?
[14:45] <JontheEchidna> eh?
[14:45] <vorian> we are in beta freeze anyways
[14:45] <JontheEchidna> that too
[14:45] <BUGabundo> yes
[14:45] <BUGabundo> but it's a bug fix only
[14:45] <BUGabundo> no new features
[14:45] <vorian> BUGabundo: it will be fixed within the next 7 days
[14:45] <JontheEchidna> but it's beta freeze, so we can't upload anything unless it's super important
[14:45] <BUGabundo> even thought the bug is set to LOW
[14:45] <JontheEchidna> after beta is released
[14:46] <BUGabundo> ok ok
[14:46] <BUGabundo> we can wait a few more days with kmail crashing on every thread delete
[14:46] <BUGabundo> eheh
[14:46] <JontheEchidna> we will package KDE 4.2.2 once the tarballs become available
[14:46] <BUGabundo> nice
[14:46] <jjesse> does anyone else have speed issues trying to download cdimages?
[14:46] <BUGabundo> will be waiting
[14:46] <BUGabundo> so jaunty will come with 4.2.2 ?
[14:46] <vorian> jjesse: fro iso.*.com?
[14:46] <JontheEchidna> That's what it's looking like
[14:46] <BUGabundo> jjesse: I'm rsyinc two DVDs images at 2MiB/s
[14:46] <JontheEchidna> I don't see a KDE 4.2.3 on the release schedule anyway...
[14:47] <JontheEchidna> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.2_Release_Schedule
[14:47] <jjesse> from cdimages.ubuntu.com
[14:47] <BUGabundo> jjesse: yes
[14:47] <JontheEchidna> They probably just haven't scheduled it that far in advance
[14:47] <jjesse> 3 kb/sec
[14:47] <BUGabundo> eheheh
[14:47] <ainson_> öhmm....why does libmapi doesn't compile libmapi++ ?
[14:47] <BUGabundo> I'm eating it all
[14:47] <BUGabundo> LOL
[14:47] <jjesse> on my DS3 connection from work
[14:47] <BUGabundo> sent 126 bytes  received 4.23G bytes  1.04M bytes/sec
[14:47]  * vorian is anxious for 4.2.75ish
[14:48] <BUGabundo> sent 127 bytes  received 4.29G bytes  1.33M bytes/sec
[14:48] <BUGabundo> jjesse: try a mtr to it
[14:48] <BUGabundo> see if you have packet loss somewhere
[14:49] <jjesse> hrmm will
[14:49] <jjesse> theres a wiki page that describes rsync'ing the images right?
[14:50] <BUGabundo> I made one a while ago
[14:50] <BUGabundo> must be old now
[14:50] <BUGabundo> but the concpet didn't change
[14:50]  * BUGabundo looks
[14:51] <BUGabundo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BUGabundo/ISORsync
[14:51] <BUGabundo> if you need I can pastebin ALL my rsyncs
[14:51] <jjesse> nope i don't :)
[14:51] <BUGabundo> for every image you can think of
[14:52] <BUGabundo>      146.33M  20%    1.08MB/s    0:08:42
[14:52] <BUGabundo> its going strong here
[14:53] <BUGabundo>  7. 213.242.109.133                                                                46.7%    30   46.5  28.3  15.5  65.5  14.6
[14:53] <BUGabundo> humm you are not the only one with packet loss!!! ~50% ?
[15:02] <jjesse> wow rsync is so much faster, wonder why
[15:02] <jjesse> 571kb/sec
[15:05] <BUGabundo> 'cause you only get what you really need from the change
[15:05] <BUGabundo> if you already have the image
[15:06] <jjesse> i don't have the image at all
[15:07] <BUGabundo> ahh
[15:07] <BUGabundo> nice then
[15:07] <BUGabundo> sent 137 bytes  received 697.26M bytes  840.49K bytes/sec
[15:07] <BUGabundo> so you are the one responsible for my slow down
[15:07] <BUGabundo> eheh
[15:09] <jjesse> BUGabundo: yes i am :)
[15:09] <jjesse> 1.03 mb/second
[15:13] <BUGabundo> lt me get kubuntu daily
[15:15] <BUGabundo> jjesse: bah it won't even start!
[15:15] <BUGabundo> free me a slot! ehe
[15:16] <BUGabundo> I want to have a jaunty image to show off to my students
[15:16] <BUGabundo> eheh
[15:16] <BUGabundo> of kubuntu that is
[15:21] <peabody> hello kubuntu developers)
[15:22] <maco_> what's the CTCP for?
[15:22] <BUGabundo> to check the version
[15:22] <maco_> and why is quassel lying to me about my nick?
[15:22] <maco_> BUGabundo: no, i mean why is peabody CTCPing people
[15:22] <BUGabundo> eheh ah that
[15:26] <peabody> kubuntu 9.04 kde 4.2.1 Qt 4.5.0 system Settings 4.2.1 - bug in kdelibs - (in kcatalog.cpp) - problem with cyrillic symbols in okular, gwenview è systemsettings (looks like BZD/???µ?????????????°)
[15:26] <JontheEchidna> peabody: that bug will be fixed in KDE 4.2.2
[15:27] <jjesse> finished rsyncing BUGabundo
[15:27] <vorian> ScottK-desktop: ScottK2 ping
[15:28] <vorian> Riddell: pingaloo
[15:28] <Riddell> hi vorian
[15:29] <vorian> Riddell: mdz asked for me to have my sponsors ready at TB meeting
[15:29] <vorian> (which is now)
[15:29] <vorian> :P
[15:29] <jjesse> Riddell: in the boot of the beta test cd, kubuntu is really small in my vm
[15:29] <Riddell> vorian: got a url for your application again?
[15:30] <peabody> JontheEchidna: kde 4.2.2 will be in  9.04 ?)
[15:30] <vorian> Riddell: they havent gotten to me yet, but i'll be up next
[15:30] <JontheEchidna> peabody: yes
[15:30] <vorian> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StephenStalcup/CoreDeveloperApplication
[15:30] <Riddell> jjesse: it's ment to be, julian will have a rationale :)
[15:30] <BUGabundo> bye guys! ping me if you need anything else! [[]]
[15:30] <jjesse> ok, cool, i just wondered cause it was so small, i'll wait to hear from julian
[15:30] <vorian> nixternal: yo, stop working
[15:31] <jjesse> i thought nixternal didn't have a job?  did he get hired?
[15:31] <vorian> oh, i didn't know he didn't have one
[15:41] <Riddell> my feedback on vorian's application looks pittiful compared to the essays by others
[15:41] <vorian> Riddell: heh, it's ok :)
[15:41] <vorian> Riddell: it can be your time to shine, live :)
[15:42] <JontheEchidna> All I was trying to do was to nott seem like I was copying nathan's advocation, lol
[15:42] <vorian> haha
[15:42] <vorian> neversfelde's new choqok is awesome
[15:44] <vorian> here we go!
[15:44] <neversfelde> it is, any chance to backport it to intrepid? 0.3 is pretty old and misses features for direct messages
[15:50] <neversfelde> ah, forgot that it has to be in jaunty for backporting :/
[15:52] <nixternal> huh?
[15:54] <vorian> nixternal: my TB interview (now)
[15:54] <nixternal> watching the feeding frenzy now
[16:18]  * jjesse feels sorry for vorian
[16:18] <nixternal> DUDE
[16:19] <jjesse> did he leave?  what happened?
[16:22] <jjesse> Riddell: installing the beta candidate and it is hangning at scanning the mirror 82%
[16:22] <Riddell> jjesse: wait, it will probably timeout
[16:22] <Riddell> although I've done installs with no network today and not noticed a long hang
[16:22] <jjesse> Riddell: will do
[16:23] <jjesse> Riddell:  allso sent an email to the person requesting an article on 9.04 waitig to hear back from him
[16:23] <jjesse> my VM has network access, don't know why it is hanging then?
[16:26] <nixternal> jjesse: ya, he left....hopefully he chills out a bit and comes back
[16:26] <jjesse> nixternal: hopefully, didn't understand what hpapned
[16:26] <nixternal> hrmm, it was just brought to my attention that he has left the MOTU team on LP
[16:28] <jjesse> oh wow
[16:28] <jjesse> that really sucks i thought vorian was a good dude
[16:29] <nixternal> I am trying to poke him anyway I know how...IM, Phone
[16:29] <Nightrose> what happened?
[16:32] <jjesse> Nightrose: bad tech board meeting i guess
[16:32] <Nightrose> :(
[16:32] <davmor2> nixternal: So when he that's me then he meant it :(
[16:34] <jjesse> wb vorian
[16:34] <nixternal> whew, there he is
[16:34] <vorian> danke
[16:34] <vorian> i had to reset my irssi
[16:34] <jjesse> ah it moved on to configuring hardware finally
[16:34] <vorian> na, i had to get rid of a few channels
[17:02] <agateau> a|wen: ping
[17:02] <a|wen> hi agateau
[17:02] <agateau> I fixed a memory leak which happened when you modified images
[17:02] <agateau> (in gwenview)
[17:02] <agateau> it's in kde trunk and 4.2 branch
[17:02] <a|wen> agateau: okay, cool; thx a lot! ... i'll just check up on if we're planning on packaging 4.2.2 or if i should cherry-pick the fix
[17:03] <agateau> tell me if you want to cherry-pick, there are 5 commits I think
[17:03] <agateau> (or you can cherry-pick what I committed to the branch today)
[17:03] <JontheEchidna> we'll be packaging 4.2.2
[17:04] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: okay, perfect :) ... problem almost solved then; thx again agateau
[17:05] <agateau> a|wen: thanks for reporting the bug :)
[17:05] <a|wen> :)
[17:05]  * a|wen really hopes that 4.2.2 will fix some of the kontact/kmail crashes
[17:08]  * freinhard really hopes that akonadi integration and the imap rewrite hit 4.3 ;)
[17:11] <peabody> do you know about copy/past problem in qt 4.5?
[17:13] <jjesse> NOOOO don't tell me kittens die, i thought they went to heaven
[17:14] <nixternal> vorian: hey, did anyone ever find that Ubuntu banner and what not that went missing at OLF?
[17:14] <nixternal> I just thought of that sucker
[17:14] <vorian> nixternal: not that I know of
[17:14] <nixternal> hahaha
[17:14] <vorian> stupid fedora
[17:14] <nixternal> I can't believe someone stole it
[17:14] <vorian> I think so, it is a sweet banner
[17:14] <nixternal> haha, I think it was them as well
[17:15] <nixternal> maybe they will be at Flourish new week, if so paybacks are a beeeeeaaaaatccch
[17:15] <vorian> haha
[17:15] <nixternal> though Red Hat and Fedora haven't been back to Flourish in 2 years after the "Battle of the Distros" loss Ubuntu Chicago served them
[17:16] <jjesse> ubuntu chciago sucks
[17:16] <nixternal> shoot, we won all the while having troubles with our laptops and the projectors...they didn't have any
[17:16] <nixternal> jjesse: horse head or dead fish? your choice
[17:16] <jjesse> both
[17:17] <nixternal> damn, the fish is the easy one to get, the horse head...don't know where I will get that one from
[17:17] <nixternal> don't think the mounted pigs are out yet
[17:17] <nixternal> though they were out for Obamapalooza, but you couldn't do anything that night
[17:25] <tom451> log out of my kde session doesn't work for me, is this an known issue?
[17:29] <homy> Hi! Is it known, that opening "About Kubuntu" (contained in the default fileview widget on the default desktop)  triggers an error?
[17:30] <nixternal> homy: yes
[17:30] <nixternal> tom451: no
[17:30] <homy> thanks!
[17:31] <nixternal> homy: will be fixed in the next upload of kubuntu-docs
[17:32] <tom451> ok, when I use "log out" the screen just went black, but kdm does not appear. shut-down, restart and suspend are working without a problem.
[17:32] <homy> Theres another problem with kickoff: after selecting a category in applications, the "back" button on the left doesn't touch the screen edge, i.e. you can't move the mouse to the screen edge (soft spot) and click to get back.
[17:34] <tom451> this is on a hp nx7400 notebook with an intel graphic card. is there something i could try to solve this problem or should I file a bug report straight?
[17:34] <nixternal> I would say go with a bug report and see if you can find anyone else with that issue
[17:35] <nixternal> i need to get my laptop back up on running, because I believe I have teh Compaq version of your laptop
[17:35] <nixternal> or something close, but my desktops are all Intel based and work like a champ...now I wouldn't put it past the Intel drivers either
[17:35] <nixternal> has this always been happening in jaunty or did it just start?
[17:36] <tom451> no, it did start a few weeks ago. but i can not tell you with which update, because i use "log out" very rare.
[17:37] <lubyou> kpackagekit uses a gnome dialog when trying to gain root rights and kopete still has problems with msn accounts (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kopete/+bug/323198). upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 beta
[17:39] <nixternal> lubyou: I just connected to MSN via Kopete without any issues
[17:40] <lubyou> nixternal hmm im getting this when i try to connect to msn: kopete: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde4/kopete_wlm.so: undefined symbol: _ZN3MSN28NotificationServerConnection15setFriendlyNameESsb
[17:40] <nixternal> http://www.nixternal.com/~rj/kopete_jaunty_msn.png
[17:41] <lubyou> nixternal i believe you, just wondering how i could fix it on my machine :)
[17:41] <lubyou> other than making a clean install
[17:51] <a|wen> lubyou: try checking your version of libmsn?
[17:53] <lubyou> a|wen 4.0~beta4-0ubuntu2
[17:55] <a|wen> then it can't be that ... was a guess
[17:57] <a|wen> looks a lot like a problem where it was build against a different version ... don't know if a reinstall of libmsn can help anything
[17:58] <lubyou> just tried that, same problem, though
[17:59] <a|wen> and kopete is upgraded? it doesn't "hang" at an old version due to something
[18:00] <lubyou> Filename: pool/main/k/kdenetwork/kopete_4.2.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[18:01] <a|wen> and kopete has been restarted since the upgrade, i guess
[18:02] <lubyou> it has, yes :)
[18:02] <lubyou> i dont understand it, i removed both kopete + libmsn + looked for the shared objects and they were definitly gone, so it should work, right?
[18:03] <a|wen> it should, yes ... haven't heard about anybody else having the problem (unless they were having a strange version of libmsn)
[19:04] <lubyou> a|wen sorted my msn problem. /usr/lib/kde4/kopete_wlm.so seemed to be linked to /usr/local/lib/libmsn.so.0.1, but only /usr/lib/libmsn.so.0.1 has the required  _ZN3MSN28NotificationServerConnection15setFriendlyNameESsb symbol
[19:05] <a|wen> okay, good... looks like you did have some other version of libmsn then
[19:23] <vorian> dude, nothing is safe from attack on planet ubuntu
[19:27] <Pconfig> hey, i tried to install jaunty today from a cd (fresh install) but the installer hanged at getting the time from the timeserver. I didn't have a network connection and couldn't click skip anymore
[19:27] <Pconfig> it worked the second time
[19:27] <Pconfig> integrity test of the cd passed
[20:19] <Riddell> Pconfig: if you can recreate the problem file a bug and attach the files in /var/log/installer
[20:52] <davmor2> Riddell: your still getting that screen-configuration.xml file on Kubuntu
[22:38] <Riddell> davmor2: ?  what's that again?
[22:39] <ufuk_k> hello, how can I contribute to kubuntu artwork?
[22:39] <davmor2> I can't remember I think you said it was an X thing but it seems strange that it's dumped in the home directory
[22:47] <Riddell> hi ufuk_k
[22:48] <ufuk_k> hello
[22:48] <Riddell> ufuk_k: we use the upstream KDE artwork for pretty much everything, since it's veyr high quality in KDE 4
[22:48] <Riddell> ufuk_k: the artwork specific to kubuntu is quite limited, the CD covers (never great because done by outsiders), the website and the boot splash are about all
[22:48] <ufuk_k> can I get some information about KDE 4 colour palette, templates, or any guidelines?
[22:49] <Riddell> ufuk_k: best to ask on #oxygen for that
[22:50] <Riddell> ufuk_k: I do have one request, the korganizer reminder icon in the system tray is still in a KDE 3 style, would be good to have a KDE 4 version, I'm not sure if the artwork hasn't been done or if it's a technical issue though
[22:51] <Riddell> ufuk_k: you can ask kwwii for more about kubuntu artwork, but as I say the real action is in KDE itself on #oxygen
[22:53] <ufuk_k> Riddell: Thank you.
[22:55] <davmor2> Riddell: If you want tomorrow I can open up a bug and drop a copy of the xml file in it
[22:58] <Riddell> davmor2: aye do
[22:59] <davmor2> Riddell: np's
[22:59] <davmor2> Now Ubuntu and netboot are out of the way I can concentrate my efforts else where tomorrow :)
[23:01] <Riddell> davmor2: Kubuntu wubi and DVDs needing done, and everything else needing double checked
[23:01] <Riddell> davmor2: did you check Kubuntu netboot?
[23:01] <mase_work> Hi guys, i am currently testing jaunty and saw a post from jriddell saying the beta was coming out in 2 days. I have only found a handful of bugs which I have reported however for me the current alpha 6 is very slow in comparison to intrepid. I am not sure if I should report this as an issue or if its just because the debugging is presumably turned on
[23:02] <davmor2> Riddell: yeap that's what reminded me about the xml file :)
[23:02] <Riddell> mase_work: there's no special debugging turned on.  hard to say what would make it slow, it may be a problem in the graphics driver or indeed anywhere else
[23:02] <Riddell> mase_work: try turning off compositing for one thing
[23:02] <Riddell> mase_work: have you reported your test on the iso testing site?
[23:02] <mase_work> yeh its not on. i'm running an intel 4500MD
[23:03] <mase_work> its using dri2 and UXA
[23:03] <Riddell> mm, intel graphics seem to be variable quality in jaunty
[23:04] <mase_work> have not reported my test yet. i shall do though
[23:04] <mase_work> just lookign at the site now
[23:07] <mase_work> Riddell: so should i bother reporting this then ? I mean..its not unusable but its slow enough that i would probably use either intrepid or another distro until the next release. My only issue with reporting 'slowness' is that its very subjective and i am not really sure how to quantify it into something someone could fix
[23:08] <mase_work> having said that, XFCE works fine
[23:09] <mase_work> but i understand even without compositing in kwin it is alot more intensive on the GPU that 3.5 was
[23:09] <mase_work> than*
[23:09] <Riddell> mase_work: may as well, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel
[23:14] <mase_work> Riddell: any ideas how i can narrow it down for the bug report. Because they will obviously ask if its also slow with gnome / xfce and I don't want them just to dismiss it as a kde issue
[23:16]  * nixternal notes that "Quick Tweet" is nice in choqoK
[23:31] <mpeg> can i ask a quic question, i am just a regular user, i am going to try a beta kubuntu (currently running kubuntu 8.10 before i just messed it up), do you guys just want feedback from a developer? or do u want feedback from regular users?
[23:32] <mpeg> i saw the message about wanting feedback jriddel blog
[23:35] <Riddell> mpeg: feedback from everyone please
[23:36] <Riddell> mase_work: I don't know I'm afraid
[23:37] <mpeg> cool
[23:37] <mpeg> so the dude is actually here
[23:38] <nixternal> mpeg: ya, feedback from a user is typically better than a developer...developer's tend to be biased :)  you will probably find stuff devs won't
[23:39] <nixternal> ie. I might not know it is broken because I use it a bit differently than you, and because of that, it isn't broken :D
[23:40] <mpeg> last comment, hop someday installing themes is unified, no more taking fedora rpms converting to debs, then going to older kde themes and hoping they install
[23:46] <mpeg> i lied, second last comment: could you people make the download page for betas more ominous? install entire disk, install manual partitioning, etc