[00:00] I've run into an odd problem. knetworkmanager is somehow limiting my upstream bandwidth. problem does not occur when knetworkmanager is killed and the network started with nm-applet (gnome's equiv) [00:01] hello folks [00:01] anybody using a thomson router here? [00:03] !es | yayo [00:03] yayo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [00:03] * Dashkal sighs [00:04] or not, it just made the problem go away for a few minutes. [00:09] whats the kde4 equivalent to ctrl+alt+D (downside all windows)? [00:09] O.o [00:09] Hi [00:09] hi [00:10] I tried to set my 4 desktops with different wallpaper on each, and couldn't find any instructions on the help guide to do it [00:10] is it possible? [00:11] any ideas? [00:12] nope :( [00:12] at least 2 separate monitors is possible [00:13] to do that [00:13] heheh too expensive [00:16] well, thanks anyway [00:16] bye [00:21] folks, anyone with a thomson router? [00:24] Is there a way to set the fat32 volume label on a usb disk in kubuntu? [00:26] Dashkal: I bet gparted could do it [00:26] mm, that'll work. I just don't want it mounting as "disk" anymore. Something descriptive please [00:30] eww, I'm lagging, bad [00:35] cual es el canal en espa;ol_ [00:36] yayo: #kubuntu-es [00:36] grasias maco [00:39] yayo: no problema [00:40] hermano disculpa una preguntica [00:40] el kubuntu no utiliza los efectos visuales del ubuntu studio_ [00:42] maco: kubuntu no utiliza los efectos visuales del ubuntu studio_ [00:43] yayo: aqui tem que se falar inglês [00:43] maco:sorry i dont speak iglesh so much [00:44] mas ele está a dizer que podes falar no kubuntu-es [00:44] ok [00:45] usa o tradutor do google ou parecido, para traduzir para inglês [00:51] wazzuuupp [01:00] hey guys, is there a way with kde 4.2 to save dragged and dropped text/pics like in gnome? [01:02] Kubuntu 8.1 Propeitary Nvidia drivers installed, logging in X restarts [01:02] Any clues why? =) [01:04] *reads topic looks confused and grabs CD* [01:05] for setting up a lampp server on kubuntu, what's the best way? install apache, mysql, etc individually, or is there a full package? i need phpmyadmin too [01:06] Unrelated to what you asked shadowkllr but maybe youd know. [01:06] Kubuntu 8.1 Propeitary Nvidia drivers installed, logging in X restarts [01:06] Why? [01:06] haha i just had the same thing happen [01:07] Can i fix that at all?? [01:07] i'm not sure about 8.1, i''ve had some problems and reverted back to 8.04 [01:07] *facepalms* [01:07] and kde 3 [01:07] Wonderful [01:07] -.- [01:08] yeah i know, for some reason i couldn't see anything after a few restarts on a fresh install of kde 4 [01:08] and 8.10 [01:08] it was a totally black screen [01:08] No, just with the prop. drivers [01:08] the standad ones worked, sort of [01:08] but the second i enabled OpenGl it died [01:08] so id have to reinstall [01:08] i was getting that message when i first installed 8.04 again, but letting adept do it's thing took care of it [01:09] its possible that you had some effects enabled by default that used opengl [01:09] and i no longer get the message [01:09] which wont work properly ever for me [01:09] perhaps [01:10] but theres nothing you can think of that i can change or reconfigure through console to fix this [01:10] what type of vid card do you have? [01:10] Nvidia GeForce2Go 32 Megs of DDR2 ram [01:10] Lookup the dell Inspirion 8200 [01:10] everything is stock minus the ram, which is 2 gigs [01:10] i'd search nvidia's website, sometimes they offer linux drivers, i know ati is really good about it, and nvidia is starting to catch on [01:11] well [01:11] right now im using my windows HD [01:11] I physically switch harddrives per OS [01:11] too small to Dual boot [01:11] ew... [01:11] bootloader ftw [01:11] Yeah, its a bit of a mess [01:11] but [01:11] dual booting a 40 gig hd [01:11] isnt worth it [01:11] =P [01:12] true, but why don't you have both setup? [01:12] Laptop [01:12] i see [01:12] Which is why i leave the gfx alone [01:12] and processor [01:12] i see...hmmm [01:12] which isnt BAD but not great [01:13] whats funny is [01:13] I got the wireless drivers installed [01:13] rebooted after doing an aptget update install [01:13] is when x wouldnt work [01:13] on my laptop, i run vista 32 bit home, but i have a 8gig flashdrive that has a persistent image of backtrack 3 on it, i just use that if i want to do any linux related tasks [01:14] cant boot from USB [01:14] ouch [01:14] no BIOS compatibiltiy [01:14] Im waiting for Miight to release for the wii [01:14] can you use a live cd? [01:14] so i can run some form of linux on my wii [01:14] Yeah [01:14] i have yellowdog on my oldschool xbox [01:14] I can use a Live CD [01:14] Badass [01:14] =P === nick is now known as Guest75692 [01:16] im thinkin ill get an uber big HD and use that in this computer soon [01:16] 40 gigs is choking me [01:16] i'm not really sure tho what the deal with that error is tho, i've seen it before, but to tell you the truth i'm not the authority on linux yet, been using it for about 2 years now, but i still have no0b questions alot [01:16] yeah that's about the gist of it [01:16] i'm barely scrounging by with a dedicated kubuntu box with 80gigs by itself, [01:17] but i'm only using it for web development atm [01:17] mm [01:17] Im a multimedia guy [01:17] Music, Pics, Videos [01:17] all of which [01:17] are HUGE [01:17] anyone here get kde working with nvidia 180 drivers? [01:17] i made a huge mistake and said i was tired of kubuntu and wanted to try debian [01:17] and fedora [01:17] EVERYONE is asking about Nvidia [01:17] so its not just me [01:17] mmk [01:18] I felt retarded [01:18] Oh [01:18] Oh [01:18] You may know this or not too, shadowkllr [01:18] Can Wine run Direct X enabled games? [01:18] Klevi, which version of the driver [01:18] yes klevi [01:19] sivik, ill repost my situation [01:19] sorry, i cam in too late [01:19] Nvidia GeForce2Go 32 Megs of DDR2 ram [01:19] oh dear, thats old [01:19] Kubuntu 8.1 Propeitary Nvidia drivers installed, logging in X restarts [01:19] Wine can run *some* DirectX games; and a few more unreliably :) (see winehq.com for details) [01:19] ty [01:19] Ill look into that later [01:19] i think wine can support directx 9, but does not fully support 10 yet [01:19] it's hit or miss i'm told [01:20] 9 is good [01:20] but that's why i run windows too lol [01:20] Im only running PSObb [01:20] which even on this thing [01:20] right; it does support 9, but that doesn't mean *all* DX9 games will run [01:20] runs pretty well [01:21] yeah p_quarles is right, i re-read what i wrote, didn't want to give the impression that all dx9 games are supported, but it's more than dx 10 games [01:21] Im not in any rush or dependant upon playing that game under Kubuntu [01:21] But [01:21] It'd be nice [01:22] so back to my question if anyone knows(i had this kubuntu box setup a long time ago as my lampp server, but don't know the most efficient way to do it) should i install the lamp components individually, or is there a package that includes them all? [01:23] What IS Lampp [01:23] apache, mysql, php,perl(orpython depending on some peoples pref) [01:23] Sorry, Im a noob to allot of things [01:24] Thats awesome [01:24] shadowkllr: sudo tasksel lamp-server [01:25] this command should install lamp stack I think. [01:25] k i'll try [01:25] shadowkllr- there might be a metapackage that installs them, but it's not all that difficult to install three or four packages yourself [01:25] shadowkllr: it will takes time, but it does not hangs, just wait for it. [01:26] no i know, drag, i just didn't know what was more efficient/preferred, this is a fresh install and i was just curious as it's been some time since i did that [01:27] klevi, what's even more awesome is that i can ssh into this box from my phone or laptop where ever i go and change things as needed =P [01:27] perty cool [01:27] reminds me oof my ipod touch [01:27] and once i have ssh tunnel going (on my laptop), i can tunnel any port through the single port that I have open, and it's all encrypted [01:28] Sweet [01:28] I can hardly understand the workings of it, but i know what you said in a general sense [01:28] i used to use vnc on it's normal unencrypted port back in the day and found out it was an effective way to get brute forced =P [01:29] .. brute forced? [01:29] shadowkllr- all you'd get is a metapackage that does something like install the apache, PHP, and MySQL packages, so it wouldn't be any different from installing each package individually [01:30] meaning that my vnc port was "showing" and someone was able to sniff out my password and information flowing between it......vnc is a remote desktop application [01:30] I know what VNS is, I use it onmy ipod [01:31] Damn [01:31] *VNC [01:31] its pretty cool [01:31] sitting downstairs and hijacking my itouch which is upstairs [01:32] whats redundant is surfing the internet on the ipod touch while on a computer [01:32] =P [01:32] yes, but you can bypass the flash limitation =P [01:32] sortof... [01:32] lol [01:32] Not really. which blows [01:32] if the itouch would play flash PROPERLY or at all [01:33] itd own any computer in seconds [01:33] "Oh really, your on addictiinggames.com? SO AM I" [01:33] * Klevi plays N [01:34] haha you gotta use a keyboard and mouse, me i .... cant play this since i lack proper periphrials [01:34] NUUU [01:46] wow I really dig this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=99739&forumpage=0 [01:46] stasks very awesome [01:49] hi all [01:50] i am trying to compile and get the error "Could not identify kernel" [01:50] what could be the problem? [01:52] hi, can you help me with seting up openvpn? [01:53] josh-l: what makes it awesome? I've tried it and I'm struggling to understand what it does other than make the taskbar buttons small with no text [01:56] marek__: It's not very hard with : http://openvpn.org/index.php/documentation/howto.html [02:00] hello folks [02:00] anyone using a thomson routeR? === tahir is now known as SuspectZero [02:17] ok, i'm having problems installing phpmyadmin, i used to be able to type localhost/phpmyadmin in my webbrowser, and it would open up phpmyadmin, even though phpmyadmin wasn't in the document root, but it was included somewhere and i forget where/how to do that [02:21] shadowkllr: what is your problem? [02:22] shadowkllr: Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf [02:22] add this line to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf [02:24] anybody using a thomson router? [02:28] thanks ufuk_k, it worked === tahir is now known as SuspectZero [02:40] what exactly is the LFE in kmix? [02:42] pteague: it is the subwoofer volume, I think. === hsoinsaxnly is now known as shinygerbil [02:54] Is there a shortcut to move a window from let's say desktop 3 to desktop 1? I have KDE 4.2.1. [03:02] tomsdale_: i don't think there's 1 set up by default, but i do know it's 1 of the commands you can assign a shortcut to [03:04] pteague: Would I do that In input actions? [03:08] hai [03:09] hi [03:10] tomsdale_: not sure on intrepid, i'm still on hardy... kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts -> shortcut schemes -> window & desktop -> window to next/previous desktop [03:10] when it comes to window behaviour the options ins KDE are just overwhelming. [03:10] does anybody know how to put different wallpaper on each desktop? === scott__ is now known as _|-A^A-|_ === Heliwr_ is now known as Heliwr [03:12] <_|-A^A-|_> all i know is this fucking rocks on an asus 900ha:):):) [03:12] <_|-A^A-|_> EeeBuntu that is [03:13] well, i have kubuntu and I'm pretty happy [03:13] with the desktop cube, and all that stuff [03:13] <_|-A^A-|_> i was running vista ultimate [03:13] <_|-A^A-|_> right on amelie [03:13] :D [03:14] <_|-A^A-|_> this is perfect for a netbook [03:14] the only thing I'm still "married" with Windows is because the MS Office Suite [03:14] I'm not used to Openoffice [03:14] and of course, some other software [03:14] but, most of the time i'm on kubuntu [03:14] i fell in love with it [03:15] no bluescreens, no .dll errors [03:15] pteague: thanx I got it. In 4.2.1 there is also Window to Desktop1 2 3 4 etc under Global Shortcuts [03:15] <_|-A^A-|_> i run vista ultimate and office 2007 on my desktop [03:15] <_|-A^A-|_> i love it [03:15] <_|-A^A-|_> but the netbook is for fun [03:16] <_|-A^A-|_> came with xp for $300 [03:16] cool [03:16] <_|-A^A-|_> wiped that and put on vista, then thought id try EeeBuntu [03:18] <_|-A^A-|_> time to spark a phat one, bbiab === root is now known as Guest58654 [03:18] well, i have to go [03:18] enjoy your eeebuntu... [03:18] bye [03:22] <_|-A^A-|_> . [03:22] <_|-A^A-|_> .-. === Kernel is now known as Wicked === john is now known as Guest86518 === Guest86518 is now known as GentooJohnny [03:35] how do you get screensavers in kde 4.2? i have a lot but they don't show up in sy settings-desktop-screensavers, but when i go to sys screensavers there is a whole bunch. any ideas? === nickolas is now known as nephilus [03:37] no ideas? darn! i was thinking maybe 'cuz i installed kde on ubuntu [03:37] lol === knoxville is now known as knoxville_ [03:39] sup fellas? [03:40] how do you get screensavers in kde 4.2? i have a lot but they don't show up in sy settings-desktop-screensavers, but when i go to sys screensavers there is a whole bunch. any ideas? === knoxville_ is now known as knoxville_09 [03:40] some one has spoken! now is my chance! [03:41] what is the service you need to register with to cover your public IP in an IRC chat room? [03:44] #hlub [03:56] is there a channel for C#? [03:58] wow every one is dead [03:58] * nephilus pokes dead bodies with a stick [03:59] btw csharp channel is csharp lol [04:00] is there a queue in this room, or can i just ask. [04:00] !function [04:00] Sorry, I don't know anything about function === DectypedChaos is now known as DecryptedChaos [04:01] no use in asking every one died a while back ago [04:01] it is fun poking there dead bodies though [04:01] rofl [04:01] * nephilus poke poke poke [04:01] :) [04:02] ahh man. stupid webcam module/driver is killing me [04:02] darn now your dead to.. bummer [04:02] lol [04:02] pun [04:02] ROFL [04:02] :P === tanjir_ is now known as tanjir [04:03] i am legend flash back [04:04] * nephilus if any one is out there...say these exact words "something" [04:04] * nephilus i am a disease! [04:04] i want this room [04:04] LOL [04:04] someone give it to meh [04:05] lol a dead room. Necrophyliac ring any bells? jk [04:05] ahaha nice one [04:05] :P [04:06] there isn't any ops [04:06] nah i'm just like its a uber support room and i'm like a full time Network Admin specilizeing in *nix [04:06] hello operator? exact words "I am not here!" [04:06] i'd like to own a room like this lol [04:06] do you mean UNIX [04:07] i am learning c#! [04:07] well *nix stands for UNIX or LINUX hence the * [04:07] it isn' that greant [04:07] oh [04:07] lol that is cool [04:07] i run BSD for UNIX and Ubuntu as Linux [04:07] go ubuntu and kubuntu! i have them both [04:07] what is the package manager for BSD? [04:08] with out dual booting [04:08] woah! a zombie! [04:09] for bsd? ohh its shit well its different it uses the "ports" system so you go to /usr/ports/whateverpackage here and then you make && make install [04:09] oh so you compile from source with BSD packages? [04:09] yeah sorta its all built into BSD [04:09] cool [04:10] it is from source in a way but all built into shell scripts [04:10] can you run make deinstall also to uninstall? [04:40] <[Relic]> Hello :) === BlueEagl1 is now known as BlueEagle [05:00] hi morning all === k0pp_ is now known as k0pp [05:19] Using kde 4.2 when I click ok the kmenu and move myouse over the menu items the kmenu background becomes completely transparent. Any one have any ideas on how to resolve [05:22] Everyone asleep? === by is now known as Sky_75 [06:16] * stealth- has mixed feelings about kde4 [06:16] i close a program, and my desktop dissapears :| [06:16] do I have to ctrl+alt+backspace, or is there some other way out of this? [06:17] also, if there any way to get the system tray to hide certain icons? it takes up way too much of my bar and i hate closing programs just for that === Mez_ is now known as Mez [06:27] does anyone know how to set a more verbose hibernation/suspend to ram mode than what ships by default? === b is now known as bud === bud is now known as Guest93998 === Guest93998 is now known as b_ === b_ is now known as b_d [06:38] Why do I keep geting logout of Kde? [06:40] I just restarted, hope that helps, im guessing it's 3d video driver issue! ;) [06:46] If anyone knows, how do i get nvidia-setting to stick? [07:00] hi, my kmail refuses to work with gpg keys with a passphrase [07:00] any idea how i can fix that? === eMaX is now known as eMaX_ === draik is now known as draik_ [07:15] hi,i'm running gnome but using konqueror,whenver i launch it it cannot find my home page- google, but if i click on the 'home' icon it goes to google no problem, what can i do? === ibrar_ is now known as ibrar === ibrar is now known as ibrar_ === ibrar_ is now known as ibrar [07:36] Hi folks. I was hoping someone would be able to help me with a screen resolution problem I'm having with my NVIDIA card. I haven't had any luck with the solutions I've found online so far. [08:17] I've got a problem with knetworkmanager. It starts connecting to our wireless, then it just gives up. It works on other Kubuntu laptops, but not on this one. It worked yesterday though. [08:17] I tried a USB network adapter, but it does the same thing. [08:17] Also tried the GNOME nm-applet; same thing. [08:22] beth__: you sure you are using the correct encryption? [08:23] jussi01: Tried it with WPA and with no encryption. Yesterday it worked fine with both. Today: nothing. [08:23] It doesn't even get as far as asking for the key. [08:23] hrm... weird [08:24] I thought it was the wireless card so I bought a D-Link USB adapter, but it has the same symptoms. [08:25] heh, that put my question out about the wireless hw switch being on ... [08:25] check that anyway [08:25] oh hang on, I remember whats wrong [08:26] Checked the switches. The adapter doesn't even have one... [08:26] beth__: go make a new connection - click next instead of save and connect - you have to put the password in there iirc.. [08:27] it wont prompt for the password... I had that a while back. [08:28] OK. Will try. May cut out briefly, but I have a cat5 cable if all else fails. [08:32] jussi01: Where is "new connection"? I tried a bunch of options, but none have a Next button. [08:32] beth__: right click the icon in the tray, then new connection -> choose card (wlan0?) [08:33] then there is a dialogue [08:33] choose the network, then click next [08:33] jussi01: This is knetworkmanager. I can't see any new connection option. [08:33] beth__: on intrepid? [08:33] o.O [08:34] Oh - should have said: KDE4 sucks; I'm on Hardy. [08:34] oh dear... [08:34] Ive no idea on hardy... [08:34] too long ago to remember... [08:35] Bother. [08:36] i'm on kde4 i like it, experimental though it be----i use wicd instead of knetworkmanager [08:36] futuresoon: Anything would be better than networkmismanager. What's wicd? [08:38] http://chadarius.com/node/124 [08:39] i guess you can just do sudo apt-get install wicd [08:40] but yeah, it works for me and i'm so glad i got rid of knetworkmanager (though i trust they'll make a good one one day) [08:40] futuresoon: Looks like it's not available in Hardy. apt-get can't find it. [08:41] hmm... well there's something else out there i'm sure === riki is now known as rikiok [08:43] anyway best of luck----find good google keywords! [08:43] hey all, when i select a option from the 8.10 boot cd the dvd drive just spins up and nothing happens === rikiok is now known as riki [08:43] and can still move up and down and select start options on the cd === ibrar is now known as ibrar_ === amine27 is now known as Amine27 === justin_ is now known as zoggy [08:46] and when i try cd in a VM i get the same result =\ anyone got a md5sum for the iso? [08:47] hi, is anyone else frustrated by the new network manager implementation? [08:48] i miss the days where the network was a transparent layer [08:48] now it's like a big red button on an otherwise beautiful dashboard [08:48] What ? [08:48] like the difference between bmw add a feature to their cars and when kia add a feature [08:50] on the whole i'm really really loving 8.04.2 though [08:59] what do ya know, image is corrupted [08:59] gay === theseinfeld is now known as theseinfeld|away [09:30] strange things .... i have changed video card (My geoForge FX 5200 with a Ati sapphire HD 2600 PRO)... at first both i have resumed xorg.conf.failsafe, saving also actual conf in another file... then PC start in VESA... and suddently ask me to activate propretary driver for the new video card... (It's necessary to reboot and so i do) ... post start normally... it seem to carge Linux kubuntu... but at this point Black screen (no cursor, [09:30] no pointer) .... alt + f1 ...f2... f3... ect (donìt give me no result) what sound i do [09:30] ? [09:31] what sould i do? (SORRY) [09:31] h [09:33] #ubuntu [09:33] I want to know something about Kubuntu licencing [09:33] we are using Kubuntu in office... is it for free ? or we need to get license [09:34] they say free as in freedom [09:43] i have changed video card. At first boot it start in text mode, so have resumed xorg.conf.failsafe, saving also actual xorg.conf in another file. Then reboot and PC start in basic config... suddently it asks me to activate propretary driver for the new video card (It's necessary to reboot and so i do). Post start normally... it seems to charge Linux kubuntu, but at this point - Black screen (no cursor,no pointer) [09:44] what should i do? [09:53] Hello! Can anybody answer me, when Konversation(kde-4) will appear in repository? [09:57] !video [09:57] Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications [09:57] !ati [09:57] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [10:09] !ati radeon sapphire [10:09] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [10:10] !ati [10:10] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [10:10] hi [10:11] plz somebody can i help? [10:11] i need ati mobility radeon 7500 (M7) [10:18] <[-Haza-]> Morning folks. Im trying to get a drawing tablet working on Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.2 === rjb is now known as drbobb [10:19] <[-Haza-]> Its USB and ive plugged it in. It seems to have picked up okay as the mouse works on the table. But the pen on the other hand does not. How can i go about debugging this to find out what the problem is? [10:20] hello, adept-updater has a habit of killing my xserver, anyone else observed that problem? [10:20] running hardy + nvidia driver [10:25] <[-Haza-]> Ive done some research and it looks like i can use a special driver... But im not sure what one i need [10:25] <[-Haza-]> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=75377 [10:29] [-Haza-]: nice find, get it compiled [10:29] [-Haza-]: with compiles, you will need to compile if you upgrade our kernel [10:31] <[-Haza-]> ActionParsnip1: woah. Im afraid thats waaaaay beyond me :( [10:31] [-Haza-]: you will compile the source and it will work [10:31] [-Haza-]: if you get a new kernel, the driver will be compiled for the OLD kernel, so you will need to compile the app once more [10:32] <[-Haza-]> I see. How might i go about recompiling this source code for my Kernal (javac won't work here im guessing! :D ) [10:34] <[-Haza-]> ActionParsnip1: I don't know how useful this is either http://www.revis.co.uk/site/?q=node/58 [10:37] [-Haza-]: thats compiling a kernel with the new module for the device [10:46] Where can I edit the autostart utilities in KDE? I'm not talking about adding my own scripts in ~/.kde/Autostart [10:47] !bum [10:47] Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [10:47] !startup [10:47] To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot [10:49] ActionParsnip1: I'm talking about KDE-specific services (like Kmix, katapult) that load automatically [10:52] lokai: i'd create the symlink in Autostart like you said earlier [10:52] simple yet effective [10:56] ActionParsnip1: I don't want to add my own scripts, I want to edit the ones that currently are run. These are not located in ~/.kde/Autostart, ActionParsnip1 [10:56] At least ones like kmix, konversation, katapult are not. [10:58] lokai: i'd maybe ask in #kde too [10:58] ok. === ibrar_ is now known as ibrar === ibrar is now known as ibrar_ [11:26] hi riddell === ibrar_ is now known as ibrar === ibrar is now known as ibrar_ [11:52] hi mni [12:00] When my wife's laptop resumes from hibernation or suspension, about half the time it can no longer find the wireless internet card. How do I kick it so it realises it's there? [12:01] half the time? thats odd. :) [12:01] norm,ally its allways or never [12:03] dr_willis: It's usually fine. And when I had the laptop (she always gets my hand-me-downs) it was just about always fine. This is Hardy, BTW. [12:04] Is there a way to tell it to explicitly deactivate the wifi on suspend/hibernate, and restart on resume? [12:04] Or a way to just send 10,000 volts through it to make it pay for its evilness? [12:08] wireless has always been a toss up. [12:08] ive not even had wireless work relieabally untill the 8.10 release [12:09] dr_willis: The thing is that it's been extremely reliable in Gutsy and Hardy (Intrepid was OK too for that, but hopeless for everything else). [12:09] I don't get why it's suddenly flakey. [12:10] I know there's a way to force it to switch the wifi device off, but my google-fu is lacking. [12:14] unload/reload the module perhaps [12:15] !bots [12:15] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [12:16] Heh. Just reading through launchpad. What a pitiful ghetto! Lots of people complaining about programs, but nobody who knows what they're doing ever goes there to provide answers. Hopeless. [12:16] !best [12:16] Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. [12:16] dr_willis: How do I tell which module it is? [12:17] !wireless [12:17]