[00:00] <Dashkal> I've run into an odd problem.  knetworkmanager is somehow limiting my upstream bandwidth.  problem does not occur when knetworkmanager is killed and the network started with nm-applet (gnome's equiv)
[00:01] <Ev0luti0n_> hello folks
[00:01] <Ev0luti0n_> anybody using a thomson router here?
[00:03] <jamesjedimaster> !es | yayo
[00:03]  * Dashkal sighs
[00:04] <Dashkal> or not, it just made the problem go away for a few minutes.
[00:09] <stealth-> whats the kde4 equivalent to ctrl+alt+D (downside all windows)?
[00:09] <Ev0luti0n_> O.o
[00:09] <amelie> Hi
[00:09] <stealth-> hi
[00:10] <amelie> I tried to set my 4 desktops with different wallpaper on each, and couldn't find any instructions on the help guide to do it
[00:10] <amelie> is it possible?
[00:11] <amelie> any ideas?
[00:12] <stealth-> nope :(
[00:12] <Ev0luti0n_> at least 2 separate monitors is possible
[00:13] <Ev0luti0n_> to do that
[00:13] <amelie> heheh too expensive
[00:16] <amelie> well, thanks anyway
[00:16] <amelie> bye
[00:21] <Ev0luti0n_> folks, anyone with a thomson router?
[00:24] <Dashkal> Is there a way to set the fat32 volume label on a usb disk in kubuntu?
[00:26] <dwidmann> Dashkal: I bet gparted could do it
[00:26] <Dashkal> mm, that'll work.  I just don't want it mounting as "disk" anymore.  Something descriptive please
[00:30] <dwidmann> eww, I'm lagging, bad
[00:35] <yayo> cual es el canal en espa;ol_
[00:36] <maco> yayo: #kubuntu-es
[00:36] <yayo> grasias maco
[00:39] <maco> yayo: no problema
[00:40] <yayo> hermano disculpa una preguntica
[00:40] <yayo> el kubuntu no utiliza los efectos visuales del ubuntu studio_
[00:42] <yayo> maco: kubuntu no utiliza los efectos visuales del ubuntu studio_
[00:43] <Ev0luti0n_> yayo: aqui tem que se falar inglês
[00:43] <yayo> maco:sorry i dont speak iglesh so much
[00:44] <Ev0luti0n_> mas ele está a dizer que podes falar no kubuntu-es
[00:44] <yayo> ok
[00:45] <Ev0luti0n_> usa o tradutor do google ou parecido, para traduzir para inglês
[00:51] <Kradziej> wazzuuupp
[01:00] <halfsane> hey guys, is there a way with kde 4.2 to save dragged and dropped text/pics like in gnome?
[01:02] <Klevi> Kubuntu 8.1 Propeitary Nvidia drivers installed, logging in X restarts
[01:02] <Klevi> Any clues why? =)
[01:04] <Klevi> *reads topic looks confused and grabs CD*
[01:05] <shadowkllr> for setting up a lampp server on kubuntu, what's the best way? install apache, mysql, etc individually, or is there a full package? i need phpmyadmin too
[01:06] <Klevi> Unrelated to what you asked shadowkllr but maybe youd know.
[01:06] <Klevi> Kubuntu 8.1 Propeitary Nvidia drivers installed, logging in X restarts
[01:06] <Klevi> Why?
[01:06] <shadowkllr> haha i just had the same thing happen
[01:07] <Klevi> Can i fix that at all??
[01:07] <shadowkllr> i'm not sure about 8.1, i''ve had some problems and reverted back to 8.04
[01:07] <Klevi> *facepalms*
[01:07] <shadowkllr> and kde 3
[01:07] <Klevi> Wonderful
[01:07] <Klevi> -.-
[01:08] <shadowkllr> yeah i know, for some reason i couldn't see anything after a few restarts on a fresh install of kde 4
[01:08] <shadowkllr> and 8.10
[01:08] <shadowkllr> it was a totally black screen
[01:08] <Klevi> No, just with the prop. drivers
[01:08] <Klevi> the standad ones worked, sort of
[01:08] <Klevi> but the second i enabled OpenGl it died
[01:08] <Klevi> so id have to reinstall
[01:08] <shadowkllr> i was getting that message when i first installed 8.04 again, but letting adept do it's thing took care of it
[01:09] <Klevi> its possible that you had some effects enabled by default that used opengl
[01:09] <shadowkllr> and i no longer get the message
[01:09] <Klevi> which wont work properly ever for me
[01:09] <shadowkllr> perhaps
[01:10] <Klevi> but theres nothing you can think of that i can change or reconfigure through console to fix this
[01:10] <shadowkllr> what type of vid card do you have?
[01:10] <Klevi> Nvidia GeForce2Go 32 Megs of DDR2 ram
[01:10] <Klevi> Lookup the dell Inspirion 8200
[01:10] <Klevi> everything is stock minus the ram, which is 2 gigs
[01:10] <shadowkllr> i'd search nvidia's website, sometimes they offer linux drivers, i know ati is really good about it, and nvidia is starting to catch on
[01:11] <Klevi> well
[01:11] <Klevi> right now im using my windows HD
[01:11] <Klevi> I physically switch harddrives per OS
[01:11] <Klevi> too small to Dual boot
[01:11] <shadowkllr> ew...
[01:11] <shadowkllr> bootloader ftw
[01:11] <Klevi> Yeah, its a bit of a mess
[01:11] <Klevi> but
[01:11] <Klevi> dual booting a 40 gig hd
[01:11] <Klevi> isnt worth it
[01:11] <Klevi> =P
[01:12] <shadowkllr> true, but why don't you have both setup?
[01:12] <Klevi> Laptop
[01:12] <shadowkllr> i see
[01:12] <Klevi> Which is why i leave the gfx alone
[01:12] <Klevi> and processor
[01:12] <shadowkllr> i see...hmmm
[01:12] <Klevi> which isnt BAD but not great
[01:13] <Klevi> whats funny is
[01:13] <Klevi> I got the wireless drivers installed
[01:13] <Klevi> rebooted after doing an aptget update install
[01:13] <Klevi> is when x wouldnt work
[01:13] <shadowkllr> on my laptop, i run vista 32 bit home, but i have a 8gig flashdrive that has a persistent image of backtrack 3 on it, i just use that if i want to do any linux related tasks
[01:14] <Klevi> cant boot from USB
[01:14] <shadowkllr> ouch
[01:14] <Klevi> no BIOS compatibiltiy
[01:14] <Klevi> Im waiting for Miight to release for the wii
[01:14] <shadowkllr> can you use a live cd?
[01:14] <Klevi> so i can run some form of linux on my wii
[01:14] <Klevi> Yeah
[01:14] <shadowkllr> i have yellowdog on my oldschool xbox
[01:14] <Klevi> I can use a Live CD
[01:14] <Klevi> Badass
[01:14] <Klevi> =P
[01:16] <Klevi> im thinkin ill get an uber big HD and use that in this computer soon
[01:16] <Klevi> 40 gigs is choking me
[01:16] <shadowkllr> i'm not really sure tho what the deal with that error is tho, i've seen it before, but to tell you the truth i'm not the authority on linux yet, been using it for about 2 years now, but i still have no0b questions alot
[01:16] <shadowkllr> yeah that's about the gist of it
[01:16] <shadowkllr> i'm barely scrounging by with a dedicated kubuntu box with 80gigs by itself,
[01:17] <shadowkllr> but i'm only using it for web development atm
[01:17] <Klevi> mm
[01:17] <Klevi> Im a multimedia guy
[01:17] <Klevi> Music, Pics, Videos
[01:17] <Klevi> all of which
[01:17] <Klevi> are HUGE
[01:17] <sivik> anyone here get kde working with nvidia 180 drivers?
[01:17] <shadowkllr> i made a huge mistake and said i was tired of kubuntu and wanted to try debian
[01:17] <shadowkllr> and fedora
[01:17] <Klevi> EVERYONE is asking about Nvidia
[01:17] <Klevi> so its not just me
[01:17] <Klevi> mmk
[01:18] <Klevi> I felt retarded
[01:18] <Klevi> Oh
[01:18] <Klevi> Oh
[01:18] <Klevi> You may know this or not too, shadowkllr
[01:18] <Klevi> Can Wine run Direct X enabled games?
[01:18] <sivik> Klevi, which version of the driver
[01:18] <sivik> yes klevi
[01:19] <Klevi> sivik, ill repost my situation
[01:19] <sivik> sorry, i cam in too late
[01:19] <Klevi> Nvidia GeForce2Go 32 Megs of DDR2 ram
[01:19] <sivik> oh dear, thats old
[01:19] <Klevi> Kubuntu 8.1 Propeitary Nvidia drivers installed, logging in X restarts
[01:19] <p_quarles> Wine can run *some* DirectX games; and a few more unreliably :) (see winehq.com for details)
[01:19] <Klevi> ty
[01:19] <Klevi> Ill look into that later
[01:19] <shadowkllr> i think wine can support directx 9, but does not fully support 10 yet
[01:19] <shadowkllr> it's hit or miss i'm told
[01:20] <Klevi> 9 is good
[01:20] <shadowkllr> but that's why i run windows too lol
[01:20] <Klevi> Im only running PSObb
[01:20] <Klevi> which even on this thing
[01:20] <p_quarles> right; it does support 9, but that doesn't mean *all* DX9 games will run
[01:20] <Klevi> runs pretty well
[01:21] <shadowkllr> yeah p_quarles is right, i re-read what i wrote, didn't want to give the impression that all dx9 games are supported, but it's more than dx 10 games
[01:21] <Klevi> Im not in any rush or dependant upon playing that game under Kubuntu
[01:21] <Klevi> But
[01:21] <Klevi> It'd be nice
[01:22] <shadowkllr> so back to my question if anyone knows(i had this kubuntu box setup a long time ago as my lampp server, but don't know the most efficient way to do it) should i install the lamp components individually, or is there a package that includes them all?
[01:23] <Klevi> What IS Lampp
[01:23] <shadowkllr> apache, mysql, php,perl(orpython depending on some peoples pref)
[01:23] <Klevi> Sorry, Im a noob to allot of things
[01:24] <Klevi> Thats awesome
[01:24] <ufuk_k> shadowkllr: sudo tasksel lamp-server
[01:25] <ufuk_k> this command should install lamp stack I think.
[01:25] <shadowkllr> k i'll try
[01:25] <Dragnslcr> shadowkllr- there might be a metapackage that installs them, but it's not all that difficult to install three or four packages yourself
[01:25] <ufuk_k> shadowkllr: it will takes time, but it does not hangs, just wait for it.
[01:26] <shadowkllr> no i know, drag, i just didn't know what was more efficient/preferred, this is a fresh install and i was just curious as it's been some time since i did that
[01:27] <shadowkllr> klevi, what's even more awesome is that i can ssh into this box from my phone or laptop where ever i go and change things as needed =P
[01:27] <Klevi> perty cool
[01:27] <Klevi> reminds me oof my ipod touch
[01:27] <shadowkllr> and once i have ssh tunnel going (on my laptop), i can tunnel any port through the single port that I have open, and it's all encrypted
[01:28] <Klevi> Sweet
[01:28] <Klevi> I can hardly understand the workings of it, but i know what you said in a general sense
[01:28] <shadowkllr> i used to use vnc on it's normal unencrypted port back in the day and found out it was an effective way to get brute forced =P
[01:29] <Klevi> .. brute forced?
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> shadowkllr- all you'd get is a metapackage that does something like install the apache, PHP, and MySQL packages, so it wouldn't be any different from installing each package individually
[01:30] <shadowkllr> meaning that my vnc port was "showing" and someone was able to sniff out my password and information flowing between it......vnc is a remote desktop application
[01:30] <Klevi> I know what VNS is, I use it onmy ipod
[01:31] <Klevi> Damn
[01:31] <Klevi> *VNC
[01:31] <Klevi> its pretty cool
[01:31] <Klevi> sitting downstairs and hijacking my itouch which is upstairs
[01:32] <Klevi> whats redundant is surfing the internet on the ipod touch while on a computer
[01:32] <Klevi> =P
[01:32] <shadowkllr> yes, but you can bypass the flash limitation =P
[01:32] <shadowkllr> sortof...
[01:32] <shadowkllr> lol
[01:32] <Klevi> Not really. which blows
[01:32] <Klevi> if the itouch would play flash PROPERLY or at all
[01:33] <Klevi> itd own any computer in seconds
[01:33] <Klevi> "Oh really, your on addictiinggames.com? SO AM I"
[01:33]  * Klevi plays N
[01:34] <Klevi> haha you gotta use a keyboard and mouse, me i .... cant play this since i lack proper periphrials
[01:34] <Klevi> NUUU
[01:46] <josh-l> wow I really dig this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=99739&forumpage=0
[01:46] <josh-l> stasks very awesome
[01:49] <clifton> hi all
[01:50] <clifton> i am trying to compile and get the error "Could not identify kernel"
[01:50] <clifton> what could be the problem?
[01:52] <marek__> hi, can you help me with seting up openvpn?
[01:53] <mefisto__> josh-l: what makes it awesome? I've tried it and I'm struggling to understand what it does other than make the taskbar buttons small with no text
[01:56] <brunoqc> marek__: It's not very hard with : http://openvpn.org/index.php/documentation/howto.html
[02:00] <Ev0luti0n_> hello folks
[02:00] <Ev0luti0n_> anyone using a thomson routeR?
[02:17] <shadowkllr> ok, i'm having problems installing phpmyadmin, i used to be able to type localhost/phpmyadmin in my webbrowser, and it would open up phpmyadmin, even though phpmyadmin wasn't in the document root, but it was included somewhere and i forget where/how to do that
[02:21] <ufuk_k> shadowkllr: what is your problem?
[02:22] <ufuk_k> shadowkllr: Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[02:22] <ufuk_k> add this line to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:24] <Ev0luti0n_> anybody using a thomson router?
[02:28] <shadowkllr> thanks ufuk_k, it worked
[02:40] <pteague> what exactly is the LFE in kmix?
[02:42] <ufuk_k> pteague: it is the subwoofer volume, I think.
[02:54] <tomsdale_> Is there a shortcut to move a window from let's say desktop 3 to desktop 1? I have KDE 4.2.1.
[03:02] <pteague> tomsdale_: i don't think there's 1 set up by default, but i do know it's 1 of the commands you can assign a shortcut to
[03:04] <tomsdale_> pteague: Would I do that In input actions?
[03:08] <duniaisenk> hai
[03:09] <amelie> hi
[03:10] <pteague> tomsdale_: not sure on intrepid, i'm still on hardy... kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts -> shortcut schemes -> window & desktop -> window to next/previous desktop
[03:10] <tomsdale_> when it comes to window behaviour the options ins KDE are just overwhelming.
[03:10] <amelie> does anybody know how to put different wallpaper on each desktop?
[03:12] <_|-A^A-|_> all i know is this fucking rocks on an asus 900ha:):):)
[03:12] <_|-A^A-|_> EeeBuntu that is
[03:13] <amelie> well, i have kubuntu and I'm pretty happy
[03:13] <amelie> with the desktop cube, and all that stuff
[03:13] <_|-A^A-|_> i was running vista ultimate
[03:13] <_|-A^A-|_> right on amelie
[03:13] <amelie> :D
[03:14] <_|-A^A-|_> this is perfect for a netbook
[03:14] <amelie> the only thing I'm still "married" with Windows is because the MS Office Suite
[03:14] <amelie> I'm not used to Openoffice
[03:14] <amelie> and of course, some other software
[03:14] <amelie> but, most of the time i'm on kubuntu
[03:14] <amelie> i fell in love with it
[03:15] <amelie> no bluescreens, no .dll errors
[03:15] <tomsdale_> pteague: thanx I got it. In 4.2.1 there is also Window to Desktop1 2 3 4 etc under Global Shortcuts
[03:15] <_|-A^A-|_> i run vista ultimate  and office 2007  on my desktop
[03:15] <_|-A^A-|_> i love it
[03:15] <_|-A^A-|_> but the netbook is for fun
[03:16] <_|-A^A-|_> came with xp for $300
[03:16] <amelie> cool
[03:16] <_|-A^A-|_> wiped that and put on vista, then thought id try EeeBuntu
[03:18] <_|-A^A-|_> time to spark a phat one, bbiab
[03:18] <amelie> well, i have to go
[03:18] <amelie> enjoy your eeebuntu...
[03:18] <amelie> bye
[03:22] <_|-A^A-|_> .
[03:22] <_|-A^A-|_> .-.
[03:35] <nickolas> how do you get screensavers in kde 4.2? i have a lot but they don't show up in sy settings-desktop-screensavers, but when i go to sys screensavers there is a whole bunch. any ideas?
[03:37] <nephilus> no ideas? darn! i was thinking maybe 'cuz i installed kde on ubuntu
[03:37] <nephilus> lol
[03:39] <knoxville_> sup fellas?
[03:40] <nephilus> how do you get screensavers in kde 4.2? i have a lot but they don't show up in sy settings-desktop-screensavers, but when i go to sys screensavers there is a whole bunch. any ideas?
[03:40] <nephilus> some one has spoken! now is my chance!
[03:41] <knoxville_09> what is the service you need to register with to cover your public IP in an IRC chat room?
[03:44] <hua> #hlub
[03:56] <nephilus> is there a channel for C#?
[03:58] <nephilus> wow every one is dead
[03:58]  * nephilus pokes dead bodies with a stick
[03:59] <nephilus> btw csharp channel is csharp lol
[04:00] <DectypedChaos> is there a queue in this room, or can i just ask.
[04:00] <nephilus> !function
[04:01] <nephilus> no use in asking every one died a while back ago
[04:01] <nephilus> it is fun poking there dead bodies though
[04:01] <DecryptedChaos> rofl
[04:01]  * nephilus poke poke poke
[04:01] <nephilus> :)
[04:02] <DecryptedChaos> ahh man. stupid webcam module/driver is killing me
[04:02] <nephilus> darn now your dead to.. bummer
[04:02] <nephilus> lol
[04:02] <nephilus> pun
[04:02] <DecryptedChaos> ROFL
[04:02] <DecryptedChaos> :P
[04:03] <nephilus> i am legend flash back
[04:04]  * nephilus if any one is out there...say these exact words "something"
[04:04]  * nephilus i am a disease!
[04:04] <DecryptedChaos> i want this room
[04:04] <DecryptedChaos> LOL
[04:04] <DecryptedChaos> someone give it to meh
[04:05] <nephilus> lol a dead room. Necrophyliac ring any bells? jk
[04:05] <DecryptedChaos> ahaha nice one
[04:05] <DecryptedChaos> :P
[04:06] <nephilus> there isn't any ops
[04:06] <DecryptedChaos> nah i'm just like its a uber support room and i'm like a full time Network Admin specilizeing in *nix
[04:06] <nephilus> hello operator? exact words "I am not here!"
[04:06] <DecryptedChaos> i'd like to own a room like this lol
[04:06] <nephilus> do you mean UNIX
[04:07] <nephilus> i am learning c#!
[04:07] <DecryptedChaos> well *nix stands for UNIX or LINUX hence the *
[04:07] <nephilus> it isn' that greant
[04:07] <nephilus> oh
[04:07] <nephilus> lol that is cool
[04:07] <DecryptedChaos> i run BSD for UNIX and Ubuntu as Linux
[04:07] <nephilus> go ubuntu and kubuntu! i have them both
[04:07] <knoxville_09> what is the package manager for BSD?
[04:08] <nephilus> with out dual booting
[04:08] <nephilus> woah! a zombie!
[04:09] <DecryptedChaos> for bsd? ohh its shit well its different it uses the "ports" system so you go to /usr/ports/whateverpackage here and then you make && make install
[04:09] <knoxville_09> oh so you compile from source with BSD packages?
[04:09] <DecryptedChaos> yeah sorta its all built into BSD
[04:09] <knoxville_09> cool
[04:10] <DecryptedChaos> it is from source in a way but all built into shell scripts
[04:10] <knoxville_09> can you run make deinstall also to uninstall?
[04:40] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[05:00] <noren> hi morning all
[05:19] <jimdb> Using kde 4.2 when I click ok the kmenu and move myouse over the menu items the kmenu background becomes completely transparent. Any one have any ideas on how to resolve
[05:22] <jimdb> Everyone asleep?
[06:16]  * stealth- has mixed feelings about kde4
[06:16] <stealth-> i close a program, and my desktop dissapears :|
[06:16] <stealth-> do I have to ctrl+alt+backspace, or is there some other way out of this?
[06:17] <stealth-> also, if there any way to get the system tray to hide certain icons? it takes up way too much of my bar and i hate closing programs just for that
[06:27] <vbgunz> does anyone know how to set a more verbose hibernation/suspend to ram mode than what ships by default?
[06:38] <b_d> Why do I keep geting logout of Kde?
[06:40] <b_d> I just restarted, hope that helps, im guessing it's 3d video driver issue! ;)
[06:46] <b_d> If anyone knows, how do i get nvidia-setting to stick?
[07:00] <devilsadvocate> hi, my kmail refuses to work with gpg keys with a passphrase
[07:00] <devilsadvocate> any idea how i can fix that?
[07:15] <itai_michaelson>  hi,i'm running gnome but using konqueror,whenver i launch it it cannot find my home page- google, but if i click on the 'home' icon it goes to google no problem, what can i do?
[07:36] <Adrick> Hi folks.  I was hoping someone would be able to help me with a screen resolution problem I'm having with my NVIDIA card.  I haven't had any luck with the solutions I've found online so far.
[08:17] <beth__> I've got a problem with knetworkmanager.  It starts connecting to our wireless, then it just gives up.  It works on other Kubuntu laptops, but not on this one.  It worked yesterday though.
[08:17] <beth__> I tried a USB network adapter, but it does the same thing.
[08:17] <beth__> Also tried the GNOME nm-applet; same thing.
[08:22] <jussi01> beth__: you sure you are using the correct encryption?
[08:23] <beth__> jussi01: Tried it with WPA and with no encryption.  Yesterday it worked fine with both.  Today: nothing.
[08:23] <beth__> It doesn't even get as far as asking for the key.
[08:23] <jussi01> hrm... weird
[08:24] <beth__> I thought it was the wireless card so I bought a D-Link USB adapter, but it has the same symptoms.
[08:25] <jussi01> heh, that put my question out about the wireless hw switch being on ...
[08:25] <jussi01> check that anyway
[08:25] <jussi01> oh hang on, I remember whats wrong
[08:26] <beth__> Checked the switches.  The adapter doesn't even have one...
[08:26] <jussi01> beth__: go make a new connection - click next instead of save and connect - you have to put the password in there iirc..
[08:27] <jussi01> it wont prompt for the password... I had that a while back.
[08:28] <beth__> OK.  Will try.  May cut out briefly, but I have a cat5 cable if all else fails.
[08:32] <beth__> jussi01: Where is "new connection"?  I tried a bunch of options, but none have a Next button.
[08:32] <jussi01> beth__: right click the icon in the tray, then new connection -> choose card (wlan0?)
[08:33] <jussi01> then there is a dialogue
[08:33] <jussi01> choose the network, then click next
[08:33] <beth__> jussi01: This is knetworkmanager.  I can't see any new connection option.
[08:33] <jussi01> beth__: on intrepid?
[08:33] <jussi01> o.O
[08:34] <beth__> Oh - should have said: KDE4 sucks; I'm on Hardy.
[08:34] <jussi01> oh dear...
[08:34] <jussi01> Ive no idea on hardy...
[08:34] <jussi01> too long ago to remember...
[08:35] <beth__> Bother.
[08:36] <futuresoon> i'm on kde4 i like it, experimental though it be----i use wicd instead of knetworkmanager
[08:36] <beth__> futuresoon: Anything would be better than networkmismanager.  What's wicd?
[08:38] <futuresoon> http://chadarius.com/node/124
[08:39] <futuresoon> i guess you can just do sudo apt-get install wicd
[08:40] <futuresoon> but yeah, it works for me and i'm so glad i got rid of knetworkmanager (though i trust they'll make a good one one day)
[08:40] <beth__> futuresoon: Looks like it's not available in Hardy.  apt-get can't find it.
[08:41] <futuresoon> hmm... well there's something else out there i'm sure
[08:43] <futuresoon> anyway best of luck----find good google keywords!
[08:43] <Gruelius> hey all, when i select a option from the 8.10 boot cd the dvd drive just spins up and nothing happens
[08:43] <Gruelius> and can still move up and down and select start options on the cd
[08:46] <Gruelius> and when i try cd in a VM i get the same result =\ anyone got a md5sum for the iso?
[08:47] <zoggy> hi, is anyone else frustrated by the new network manager implementation?
[08:48] <zoggy> i miss the days where the network was a transparent layer
[08:48] <zoggy> now it's like a big red button on an otherwise beautiful dashboard
[08:48] <hy> What ?
[08:48] <zoggy> like the difference between bmw add a feature to their cars and when kia add a feature
[08:50] <zoggy> on the whole i'm really really loving 8.04.2 though
[08:59] <Gruelius> what do ya know, image is corrupted
[08:59] <Gruelius> gay
[09:30] <amerigo> strange things .... i have changed video card (My geoForge FX 5200 with a Ati sapphire HD 2600 PRO)... at first both i have resumed xorg.conf.failsafe, saving also actual conf in another file... then PC start in VESA... and suddently ask me to activate propretary driver for the new video card... (It's necessary to reboot and so i do) ... post start normally... it seem to carge Linux kubuntu... but at this point Black screen (no cursor,
[09:30] <amerigo> no pointer) .... alt + f1 ...f2... f3... ect (donìt give me no result) what sound i do
[09:30] <amerigo> ?
[09:31] <amerigo> what sould i do? (SORRY)
[09:31] <amerigo> h
[09:33] <amerigo> #ubuntu
[09:33] <husayn> I want to know something about Kubuntu licencing
[09:33] <husayn> we are using Kubuntu in office... is it for free ? or we need to get license
[09:34] <drmrhorse> they say free as in freedom
[09:43] <amerigo> i have changed video card. At first boot it start in text mode, so have resumed xorg.conf.failsafe, saving also actual xorg.conf in another file. Then reboot and PC start in basic config... suddently it asks me to activate propretary driver for the new video card (It's necessary to reboot and so i do). Post start normally... it seems to charge Linux kubuntu, but at this point - Black screen (no cursor,no pointer)
[09:44] <amerigo> what should i do?
[09:53] <irq_> Hello! Can anybody answer me, when Konversation(kde-4) will appear in repository?
[09:57] <amerigo> !video
[09:57] <amerigo> !ati
[10:09] <altrortla> !ati radeon sapphire
[10:10] <altrortla> !ati
[10:10] <mabucen> hi
[10:11] <mabucen> plz somebody can i help?
[10:11] <mabucen> i need ati mobility radeon 7500 (M7)
[10:18] <[-Haza-]> Morning folks. Im trying to get a drawing tablet working on Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.2
[10:19] <[-Haza-]> Its USB and ive plugged it in. It seems to have picked up okay as the mouse works on the table. But the pen on the other hand does not. How can i go about debugging this to find out what the problem is?
[10:20] <drbobb> hello, adept-updater has a habit of killing my xserver, anyone else observed that problem?
[10:20] <drbobb> running hardy + nvidia driver
[10:25] <[-Haza-]> Ive done some research and it looks like i can use a special driver... But im not sure what one i need
[10:25] <[-Haza-]> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=75377
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> [-Haza-]: nice find, get it compiled
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> [-Haza-]: with compiles, you will need to compile if you upgrade our kernel
[10:31] <[-Haza-]> ActionParsnip1: woah. Im afraid thats waaaaay beyond me :(
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> [-Haza-]: you will compile the source and it will work
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> [-Haza-]: if you get a new kernel, the driver will be compiled for the OLD kernel, so you will need to compile the app once more
[10:32] <[-Haza-]> I see. How might i go about recompiling this source code for my Kernal (javac won't work here im guessing! :D )
[10:34] <[-Haza-]> ActionParsnip1: I don't know how useful this is either http://www.revis.co.uk/site/?q=node/58
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> [-Haza-]: thats compiling a kernel with the new module for the device
[10:46] <lokai> Where can I edit the autostart utilities in KDE? I'm not talking about adding my own scripts in ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> !bum
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> !startup
[10:49] <lokai> ActionParsnip1: I'm talking about KDE-specific services (like Kmix, katapult) that load automatically
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> lokai: i'd create the symlink in Autostart like you said earlier
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> simple yet effective
[10:56] <lokai> ActionParsnip1: I don't want to add my own scripts, I want to edit the ones that currently are run. These are not located in ~/.kde/Autostart, ActionParsnip1
[10:56] <lokai> At least ones like kmix, konversation, katapult are not.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> lokai: i'd maybe ask in #kde too
[10:58] <lokai> ok.
[11:26] <mni> hi riddell
[11:52] <Riddell> hi mni
[12:00] <etfb> When my wife's laptop resumes from hibernation or suspension, about half the time it can no longer find the wireless internet card.  How do I kick it so it realises it's there?
[12:01] <dr_willis> half the time? thats odd. :)
[12:01] <dr_willis> norm,ally its allways or never
[12:03] <etfb> dr_willis: It's usually fine.  And when I had the laptop (she always gets my hand-me-downs) it was just about always fine.  This is Hardy, BTW.
[12:04] <etfb> Is there a way to tell it to explicitly deactivate the wifi on suspend/hibernate, and restart on resume?
[12:04] <etfb> Or a way to just send 10,000 volts through it to make it pay for its evilness?
[12:08] <dr_willis> wireless has always been a toss up.
[12:08] <dr_willis> ive not even had wireless work relieabally untill the 8.10 release
[12:09] <etfb> dr_willis: The thing is that it's been extremely reliable in Gutsy and Hardy (Intrepid was OK too for that, but hopeless for everything else).
[12:09] <etfb> I don't get why it's suddenly flakey.
[12:10] <etfb> I know there's a way to force it to switch the wifi device off, but my google-fu is lacking.
[12:14] <dr_willis> unload/reload the module perhaps
[12:15] <landanimal> !bots
[12:16] <etfb> Heh.  Just reading through launchpad.  What a pitiful ghetto!  Lots of people complaining about programs, but nobody who knows what they're doing ever goes there to provide answers.  Hopeless.
[12:16] <landanimal> !best
[12:16] <etfb> dr_willis: How do I tell which module it is?
[12:17] <dr_willis> !wireless
[12:17] <dr_willis> look at the list of loaded modules I guess. :)
[12:18] <dr_willis> I know my broadcom card is b43, and my other card is.. err.. i forget. amtel or somthing..
[12:24] <xubuntu090985> anyone know how i can find out what color depth my system is currently running at?
[12:25] <dr_willis> Hmm.. xvidtune can tell ya.. but it may not be installed.. its an old-skool app..
[12:25] <dr_willis> proberly other ways as well
[12:26] <xubuntu090985> dr_willis, i have xvidtune but its only showing resolution, clock rate etc...if u can suggest anything else to try wd b much appreciated! :)
[12:28] <xubuntu090985> have also tried xrandr but same problem
[12:29] <dr_willis> no idea. i cant say that ive ever had toworry about depth
[12:29] <dr_willis> i set it to 24 and leave it.
[12:32] <xubuntu090985> yeah. its probably nothing. just trying to tweak as my system is a bit sluggish. thx for ur help
[12:34] <dr_willis> Depth 24
[12:34] <dr_willis> L:) is all i got set
[12:40] <dr_willis> VisuVisuVisuVisuVisuVisu
[12:40] <landanimal> i have a crap@ss graphics card too
[12:40] <dr_willis> Hmm.. cant seem to figure out how to select/paste text from vim to this other terminal
[12:40] <landanimal> slugs me up a bit
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[12:43] <BluesKaj> ctrl+c , ctrl+v ?
[12:56] <asraniel> hi there, anybody ever seen kmix changing the volume sliders by himself? in the kmix of my girlfriend the "Capture" volume changes all the time (it goes up and down)
[12:56] <Blues-Man> hi all
[12:56] <Blues-Man> i'm using kubuntu on jaunty, why I can't send files via bluetooth?
[12:56] <Blues-Man> receiving is ok, but sending just starts but then nothing arrive
[12:56] <bazhang> !jaunty
[12:56] <bazhang> please discuss in #ubuntu+1 Blues-Man
[12:56] <Blues-Man> ok
[13:01] <xiq> hello
[13:01] <Blues-Man> bazhang, do you know if I can I send file via bluetooth anyway with other tools of bluez is broken at all?
[13:05] <cinex> anyone know a good journal application ?
[13:05] <cinex> one that would allow me to possibly encrypt the database? (without looping a file)
[13:18] <denis__> !de
[13:25] <denis__> hello, when I want to run updates through adept and sometimes I want to know the changes made
[13:26] <denis__> I can do this by cclicking on "more" but nothing happens! Shouldn 't  a browser window open and show the differences?
[13:29] <denis__> anybody a clue why it doesn't work?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> denis__ , adept should open and tell you what wil be upgraded, when you click on the notifier ..is that what you mean ?
[13:33] <denis__> BluesKaj:  No, it's after that. I mean, when you see what will be updatet then I am interested in the changes
[13:34] <denis__> and when you open a file you see the installed version and the new one and at the end there is alwys this "more"link
[13:35] <denis__> but when I click it nothing happens...
[13:35] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu release are you using , denis__ ?
[13:35] <denis__> BluesKaj:  Kde 4.2.1
[13:37] <BluesKaj> denis__, so what are you trying track down ? obviously some thing changed after an update
[13:37] <Dragnslcr> denis__- the more link should just switch you to the details tab
[13:38] <denis__> Dragnslcr:  That's what I mean, but it doesn !
[13:39] <denis__> No BluesKaj, it was always like this :-/
[13:39] <Dragnslcr> Works for me in 4.2.0, so it might be a bug in 4.2.1
[13:39] <denis__> as far as I remember it did never work in KDE 4.x
[13:40] <denis__> I just want to know why I should update, I donß t want to install every patch...
[13:40] <denis__> don't
[13:44] <denis__> hmm, ok, do you perhaps know how to get flash working in Konqueror?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> denis__ , i think you should , the upgrades are based on the apps you have installed
[13:45] <Lectus> Hello! I just configured a 3G internet connection on Kubuntu using KPPP. I have a problem: I can chat here, can browse the web with lynx but can't open pages on Konqueror. Any idea?
[13:46] <denis__> BluesKaj ok, I will
[13:46] <denis__> thanks
[13:55] <Kenshin> i just installed lamb using apt-get
[13:55] <Kenshin> where is the defalt location of the index.htm file?
[14:06] <denis__> Kenshin:  try "locate" in a console
[14:07] <Kenshin> denis__, by the way i get a file on found error after i make a public_html (755 chmoded dir) on my home dir
[14:08] <Kenshin> not* found
[14:11] <denis__> eeh
[14:12] <denis__> Kenshin:  sorry, no Idea. But why do you do that?
[14:29] <fliegenderfrosch> is msn still not working with kopete in kde 4.2.1?
[14:32] <dazjorz> Hey all
[14:32] <dazjorz> I'm on a project called "KMess" - it has a custom crash handler and I just added an abort() call to the end of it to allow another crash handler to take over after us
[14:32] <dazjorz> however this is what it says:
[14:33] <dazjorz> KCrash: Application 'kmess' crashing...
[14:33] <dazjorz> sock_file=/home/dazjorz/.kde/socket-dazjorz-desktop/kdeinit4__0
[14:33] <dazjorz> Unable to start Dr. Konqi
[14:33] <dazjorz> How do I fix "Unable to start Dr. Konqi" ? running /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi myself pops up a "an unknown application crashed" window, and /usr/lib/kde4/libexec is in my PATH...
[14:39] <dstar> Okay, this is just flat out _annoying_. I finally got around to figuring out how to make a dkms package for the rt2870sta driver for my wireless card last week... and 2.6.29 has the driver included now.
[14:40] <demi> I am using a plasma widget, part of a super karamba theme, but each restart it loads 3 of them, even if i turn them all off, it still reloads 3 of them, and i don't know how to make it to load only 1, anyone have an idea?
[14:43] <denis__> lol dstar
[14:45] <ubuntu_> хай.
[14:45] <edelweiss_> здарова! )
[14:45] <ubuntu_> можно пару вопросов?))
[14:45] <edelweiss_> валяй, нас всё равно мало кто тут понимает ;)
[14:46] <ubuntu_> как в кде 4.1 посмотреть сколько трафика потребляется?
[14:47] <denis__> !ru
[14:48] <edelweiss_> гонят нас на русский канал отсюда! ;)
[14:48]  * maco tries to remember russian
[14:49] <denis__> ich verstehe
[14:50] <maco> things to do when days become 30 hours long: become competent in all the languages i speak
[14:50] <denis__> hehe
[14:53] <denis__> maco:  where do you come from?
[14:54] <maco> denis__: pittsburgh, pa, usa
[14:55] <denis__> maco:  ah, and how come you knew Russian?
[14:55] <denis__>    /know
[14:56] <maco> denis__: my grandmother and her sisters spoke a little and i had to learn cyrillic in middle school for a project, so at the end of high school i started studying it on my own. took 1 class freshman year of uni, but i started mixing japanese and russian together, so....
[14:57] <denis__> oh
[14:57] <denis__> I didn't know that it's so easy to mix it up...
[14:57] <maco> that did make for neat conversations when a girl from japanese class dated a russian boy. their common language was english. i spoke japanese and russian to them
[14:57] <maco> i was studying both at the same time
[14:57] <maco> id go straight from russian class to japanese class
[14:58] <denis__> but I don't have a clue of none of these languages
[14:58] <denis__> wow, that's great!
[14:58] <maco> that
[14:58] <maco> is CONFUSING
[14:58] <denis__> that date thing
[14:58] <denis__> hehe
[14:59] <denis__> so you can speak Japanese too?
[14:59] <maco> yes
[14:59] <maco> i did a few japanese translations for ubuntu, but its been a while. my fluency is too low at this point
[14:59] <denis__> cool
[15:00] <maco> my japanese is almost as bad as my spanish now :( it really does go away if you dont use it
[15:00] <maco> but anyway, i should head off to class
[15:00] <denis__> btw, do you know how the kernel imagges are called in adept? I want to uninstall some of them
[15:01] <maco> adept? er...nope
[15:01] <maco> im on jaunty, only ever used kpackagekit...and really...i use apt
[15:01] <denis__> hmm, ok,
[15:01] <denis__> jaunty alpha6?
[15:01] <maco> but if you type "sudo apt-get remove linux-image" and the hit tab itll list them all
[15:01] <maco> yes
[15:02] <denis__> and it runs?
[15:02] <maco> yeah
[15:02] <denis__> stable??
[15:02] <maco> perfectly fine for me
[15:02] <denis__> wow
[15:02] <maco> fewer kernel panics than i had in hardy...
[15:02] <dazjorz> why would KCrash even say "Unable to start Dr. Konqi" ?
[15:02] <denis__> so they did good work
[15:03] <maco> ive got a patch to get in by um...i think string freeze is tomorrow
[15:04] <maco> fixing a gnome bug :P
[15:04] <maco> but anyway....class!
[15:04] <denis__> hehe, ok, bye
[15:04] <fliegenderfrosch> does anyone know how I can disable hibernate globally, as it is not supported for wubi-installs?
[15:05] <denis__> sorry
[15:06] <ubuntu__> poo
[15:07] <ubuntu__> eY?
[15:07] <dimonnnnnnnnnnnn> h
[15:08] <dimonnnnnnnnnnnn> ghjjhjkjhklkkl
[15:09] <LjL> dimonnnnnnnnnnnn: get your cat off the keyboard
[15:09] <denis__> lol
[15:27] <BentFranklin> In bash shell if statements, sometimes I see "if [ -d $DIR ]" and sometimes I see "if [ -d $DIR ];"  When is the semicolon necessary?
[15:36] <squid0> hey there
[15:36] <squid0> anyone know of a linux client for a light online game?
[15:36] <squid0> arcade/strategy/card
[15:37] <squid0> a game that people actually play
[15:47] <beardbar> anyone running eve online on ubuntu?
[16:11] <denis__> anybody familiar with kernel images?
[16:17]  * Blues-Man poweroff
[16:19] <denis__> ?
[16:25] <escapist91> how can i see a trafic?
[16:26] <cinex> what traffic?
[16:27] <Slartibartfast> tcpdump
[16:27] <cinex> tcpflow might help
[16:27] <escapist91> all traffic from connection via modem
[16:27] <cinex> tcpflow allows you to read things properly
[16:27] <escapist91> in, out
[16:28] <cinex> tcpflow
[16:28] <cinex> sudo apt-get install tcpflow
[16:28] <cinex> man tcpflow
[16:29] <Slartibartfast> escapist91: wireshark -> sudo apt-get install wireshark ;-)
[16:29] <escapist91> mmm and without downloading?
[16:29] <escapist91> standart metod from live cd?
[16:30] <Slartibartfast> escapist91: not sure which of these tools ar eon the livecd
[16:30] <cinex> wireshark doesnt let you read the actual traffic, just what traffic there is.
[16:31] <Slartibartfast> cinex: but it let you capture it which you can analyse later
[16:33] <cinex> tcpflow is way better for spying
[16:34] <Slartibartfast> never seen it ... will try it out ;-) .... sounds interesting
[16:37] <escapist91> so, i havent tools for control it now?(
[16:37] <amerigo> anybody can help me to set my new "ati radeon hd 2600 pro" on my kubuntu 8.04
[16:37] <amerigo> ?
[16:37] <amerigo> it make me crazy...
[16:37] <cinex> i dont think ati has good support
[16:38] <cinex> what driver are you using right now ?
[16:38] <kalorin> amerigo: install and run envyng
[16:38] <kalorin> sudo apt-get install envyng
[16:38] <kalorin> then run it
[16:38] <Slartibartfast> escapist91: i think it does not have high priority on the Ubuntu Live CD's
[16:38] <kalorin> sudo envyng -t
[16:39] <kalorin> follow the promptes
[16:39] <kalorin> prompts
[16:39] <amerigo> azz
[16:39] <kalorin> better choice though is buy nvidia :)
[16:39] <Slartibartfast> escapist91: you have a better change for this kind of tools on knoppix live cd
[16:39] <amerigo> kalorin: untill now i have also installed katalist from the vendor
[16:39] <amerigo> but it get me an error  message
[16:40] <amerigo> it do not find fglrx...
[16:41] <escapist91> im sorry, but i have that i have)) include gprs-internet with specific costs))
[16:42] <amerigo> kalorin: what reposities has envyng ?
[16:44] <amerigo> cinex: i suppose to have xorg-driver-fglrx
[16:44] <amerigo> cinex: but it won't run
[16:44] <cinex> possibly, install it, give it a gi
[16:44] <cinex> go
[16:44] <cinex> it wont install ?
[16:44] <amerigo> it won't run
[16:45] <amerigo> it doesn't function
[16:45] <amerigo> cinex: it is installed
[16:45] <cinex> run glx-gears
[16:46] <cinex> glxgears
[16:46] <cinex> even
[16:46] <BluesKaj> fglrxgears for ati cards
[16:46] <BluesKaj> fglrx-gears
[16:46] <cinex> fglrx-gears
[16:47] <amerigo> i have't fglrx-gears
[16:47] <mafia> hi, i have problem , my irc did`t support arabic font ,, i can type arabic but i can`t read like this ( áÜÜãÜÜÚÜÜÑÝÉ ãÜÜæÇÚÜÜíÜÜÏ ÇáÜÜÕÜÜáÇÉ )
[16:47] <amerigo> what is the reposity?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> you can install it , amerigo
[16:48] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install fglrx-gears
[16:49] <amerigo> done... message "it's impossible to find ...."
[16:49] <amerigo> let me check reposities
[16:50] <mafia> :)
[16:50] <amerigo> is in upgrade not supported?
[16:50] <escapist91> bye!
[16:51] <escapist91> i reboot in xp... kill me..((
[16:51] <mafia> loooooool
[16:52] <nothing-1> :\ any body here ?
[16:52] <amerigo> BluesKaj: i have changed also server but there's no flgrx gears
[16:52] <cinex> nothing-1: ?
[16:52] <nothing-1> hi, i have problem , my irc did`t support arabic font ,, i can type arabic but i can`t read like this ( áÜÜãÜÜÚÜÜÑÝÉ ãÜÜæÇÚÜÜíÜÜÏ ÇáÜÜÕÜÜáÇÉ )
[16:52] <amerigo> no
[16:53] <cinex> beats me amerigo
[16:53] <nothing-1> :S eww
[16:53] <nakk> hi
[16:54] <cinex> hi
[16:54] <nothing-1> hi2
[16:54] <nothing-1> poor support yak
[16:54] <nothing-1> :s
[16:54] <nothing-1> dont send me version :p
[16:55] <cinex> nothing-1: join #konversation ?
[16:56] <nothing-1> thanks
[16:56] <cinex> there is arab translations of konversation
[16:56] <nothing-1> thanks
[16:57] <g_> Hey everyone Good morning I've installed compiz and then when i went to remove it cause it took up too much memory it messed up metacity and i had no way of moving windows anymore cause the borders and buttons were gone, how do you remedy that?
[16:59] <amerigo> hei buddies... take off ATI?
[17:08] <g_> can anyone tell me how to remove compiz from kubuntu without it screwing everything up?
[17:10] <mefone> hi
[17:14] <denis__> hallo
[17:39] <zer0o> hi guys, i run kubuntu hardy and use WICD to connect to my wi-fi router, i tried to set a WEP key to my connection in my router settings webpage (192.168.1.1) and then i set up the same WEP key on my WICD settings, but it wont work... fortunately from another pc i could re-enter the router settings webpage and delete that key. is there any known issue with WICD and WEP keys? shall i try a WAP? am I doin anything wrong? thanks
[17:48] <agm> how do you remove kde4.2 and install kde4.1.2 in 8.10?
[17:52] <agm> i am having troubles similar to Bug #298164
[17:53] <agm> but not exactly same
[17:54] <zer0o> agm: talkin to me?
[17:56] <agm> hello
[17:59] <denis__> hallo agm
[17:59] <agm> can you help me with this denis??
[18:06] <zer0o> agm: talkin to me?
[18:08] <nibu> ji, some knows if kubuntu 8.10 come with selinux?
[18:09] <nibu> sorry, kubuntu 8.04 I think
[18:09] <denis__> no, why don't you look at the homepage?
[18:11] <nibu> denis__, do u know if apparmor can make all the ports on a machine be refusing conections?
[18:15] <Dragnslcr> nibu- the only ports that don't refuse connections are ones with a program listening on them
[18:15] <Dragnslcr> If you don't want ports accepting connections, shut down every program that listens for connections
[18:16] <nibu> Dragnslcr, I know, but I have a machine here that in nmap r with all ports closed...
[18:16] <nibu> this is impossible since I didn't close any one...
[18:17] <nibu> at least ssh should be opened...
[18:17] <Dragnslcr> Check netstat on the machine, if you can
[18:17] <Dragnslcr> Could also be a router or firewall in between that's blocking traffic
[18:19] <DecryptedChaos> Hey guys. i updated to the KDE 4.2 Beta but i keep geting Akonadi server errors any known fix?
[18:19] <denis__> nibu:  no sorry, I don't use it
[18:20] <nibu> Dragnslcr, no, isn't
[18:20] <denis__> DecryptedChaos: I also have problems with it
[18:20] <DecryptedChaos> all it is is a mysql server
[18:20] <denis__> but why don't you update to 4.2.1?
[18:21] <DecryptedChaos> well i tried to find the best did it form the apt resvortory launchpadf
[18:21] <DecryptedChaos> a better way?
[18:21] <denis__> sorry, I didn't understand your question
[18:22] <DecryptedChaos> whats the best way to get the latest KDE 4.2x under Kunbuntu
[18:23] <denis__> ah, ok
[18:24] <denis__> in which language do you want it?
[18:24] <DecryptedChaos> English
[18:24] <DecryptedChaos> if thats what you mean
[18:24] <denis__> ok, yep, give me 2 minutes
[18:25] <tomsdale> DecryptedChaos: KDE 4.2.1 will be included in Kubuntu Jaunty 9.04. Due April 23rd
[18:25] <DecryptedChaos> i know this. :P i just want to mess with it now
[18:26] <DecryptedChaos> 4.2x = LOADS better than 4.1x
[18:26] <hix> install kubuntu jaunty then
[18:27] <DecryptedChaos> is it semi stable?
[18:27] <tomsdale> If you want to mess with it and do that in a secure environment there is a beta on the kubuntu site to download. but discuss it more in ubuntu+1
[18:27] <DecryptedChaos> i know its in alpha
[18:27] <hix> i work on it since 3 weeks
[18:27] <gimox> jaunty it's almost stable
[18:27] <gimox> honestly i think it's stable since alpha 5
[18:27] <hix> no big probs
[18:27] <hix> but that can change every minute *g
[18:27] <denis__> and Alpha6 is out
[18:27] <DecryptedChaos> well i'll grab the iso can anyone point me in the fastest server for jaunty iso as i'm on a 45mb line and its annoying to pull 50kb/s
[18:27] <gimox> jaunty beta will be released on 1 april
[18:28] <gimox> DecryptedChaos:
[18:28] <gimox> wait for 3 days
[18:28] <gimox> and download the beta
[18:28] <gimox> it will be fully stable in any aspect
[18:28] <tomsdale> release is 23 April, at the moment it's in beta. But seriously go in ubuntu+1 and you'll get more people who are using it.
[18:28] <gimox> atm it's at alpha 6
[18:28] <gimox> beta will be released on 1 april
[18:29] <DecryptedChaos> is 4.2.1 in alpha 6?
[18:30] <tomsdale> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule
[18:30] <tomsdale> According to this it's in beta since march 21 or is this only for ubuntu?
[18:30] <Pici> !jaunty
[18:30] <gimox> beta has been delayed
[18:31] <gimox> anyway DecryptedChaos
[18:31] <gimox> kde 4.2 is the default DE of jaunty
[18:31] <gimox> the point version
[18:31] <gimox> (4.2.1 or 4.2.2 soon)
[18:31] <gimox> will be installed with a simply line:
[18:31] <gimox> sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:32] <gimox> probably the main release on 23 april
[18:32] <gimox> will have kde 4.2.2 preinstalled
[18:33] <denis__> gimox: when will 4.2.2 be released?
[18:33] <gimox> 1 april
[18:34] <denis__> ah ok, but according to the kde site it's not that easy to just upgrade with your command
[18:35] <denis__> it says:
[18:35] <denis__> Instructions
[18:35] <denis__> The updated packages for Kubuntu 8.10 are in Unsupported Updates (backports). To update to KDE 4.2, please follow these instructions:
[18:35] <denis__> Remove the koffice-data-kde4 package if you have it installed. The current koffice2 packages in the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA are incompatible with the KDE 4.2 packages since they try to install icons to the same locations.
[18:35] <denis__> Follow the Kubuntu Repository Guide to enable Recommended Updates and Unsupported Updates.
[18:35] <denis__> Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should uninstall any plasmoids.
[18:35] <denis__> You can now update any existing KDE 4 installation to 4.2 with Full Upgrade in the package manager, or using the Adept Updater tool in your system tray.
[18:35] <denis__> Now log out. When you log in you will have KDE 4.2. Enjoy.
[18:35] <XPS_M1330> anyone has a Dell XPS laptop? I can't get the multimedia keys to work
[18:35] <denis__> oh, a bit long,  but perhaps you know better than me
[18:36] <denis__> no
[18:36] <denis__> lenovo
[18:36] <gimox> that guide it's about kubuntu 8.10
[18:36] <gimox> if you install jaunty
[18:37] <gimox> you will find kde 4.2
[18:37] <denis__> yes right, I thought he just wanted to update KDE without haveing an Alpha system
[18:41] <denis__> DecryptedChaos: how did you decide?
[18:42] <afeijo> bluetooth?
[18:43] <afeijo> my asus notebook auto detected my bluetooth mouse, he tells that its connected to the mouse, but it dont work :(
[18:43] <denis__> afeijo: WHICH MOUSE DO YOU HAVE?
[18:43] <denis__> ups
[18:44] <afeijo> asus
[18:44] <afeijo> Logitech
[18:45] <denis__> please be a bit more precise, Logitech hast 100's of models
[18:45] <afeijo> sorry denis__, I'm looking for it, that mouse come with my asus W5F notebook
[18:46] <afeijo> the tag have some numbers, like M/N, P/N, PID, but no good model name
[18:47] <afeijo> M-RBB93 ?
[18:49] <denis__> eehh, I don't know them, wait a second
[18:53] <denis__> afeijo: perhaps this will help you http://danielbrincat.com/category/ubuntu/
[18:57] <afeijo> checking :)
[18:58] <zer0o> could anybody help with my WICD and WEP key issue?
[19:06] <jforce> How do i use wifi with kubuntu?
[19:06] <denis__> jforce: normally it will be recognized automatically
[19:07] <denis__> jforce: I have a lenovo laptop with intel chipset and it has been recognized automatically and runs perfectly
[19:11] <afeijo> denis__: sudo hidd returned connection timed out
[19:13] <shaz> .
[19:14] <senorpedro> which is a good programm to cut single scenes from movies?
[19:15] <braveheart> hi
[19:15] <denis__> afeijo: sorry, have no clue, can only research with search machines and I found this too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958001
[19:17] <denis__> I meant search engine, sorry, in German we say search machine
[19:17] <afeijo> I hit the reset button under my mouse, it is working now, thanks!!
[19:25] <HoorayHenry> Hi All.  Recent convert from Windoze  - only taken me 25yrs+ for the penny to drop ;P   Is it possible to add/remove Apps from a USB install of v8.10 KDE4 (am finding it difficult with Adept). Thanks
[19:26] <denis__> well, I would say Adept is the easiest way for rookies like you and me, especially if you don't know the commandy
[19:28] <denis__> commands
[19:29] <HoorayHenry> yeah i thought it would be. though everytime I do add/remove (even a small app) the installn breaks. Guess I'll have to do with what i've got (which is brill)
[19:30] <denis__> what system do you use?
[19:31] <Guest82716> ubuntu intrepid
[19:31] <HoorayHenry> I've got v8.10 KDE4 on a 2GB USB pendrive - excellent!
[19:31] <denis__> kde 4.0?
[19:32] <denis__> HoorayHenry: kde 4.0 is very unstable, you should update to kde 4.2
[19:33] <HoorayHenry> Sorry, correction, it is 4.2.   Would you/anyone know whether the apps are installed to the persistent storage allocation (casper-rw) or within the squashfs?
[19:35] <denis__> HoorayHenry: sorry, I never used an OS on a USB-pen
[19:35] <denis__> HoorayHenry: might be the reason why I have never heard about squashfs
[19:36] <HoorayHenry> denis_: thanks anyhow .. it is an excellent way of having a portable system (as long as encryption is used!).  Hah, yeah, squshfs was new to me last week!
[19:37] <HoorayHenry> back to the books for me now. all the best.
[19:37] <tomsdale> Are there themes for eclipse in KDE. It looks so horrible and the fonts are way to big.
[19:37] <denis__> HoorayHenry: no problem. good luck
[19:38] <HoorayHenry> cheers. same to you also.
[19:40] <denis__> thanks
[19:43] <denis__> does anybody know a good partitioning programme?
[19:43] <endrix> gparted
[19:43] <denis__> for KDE
[19:43] <denis__> ;-)
[19:43] <cinex> qtparted
[19:43] <cinex> cfdisk
[19:43] <cinex> fdisk
[19:43] <denis__> cfdisk is crap
[19:43] <cinex> if you say so.
[19:44] <denis__> you can't even recognize your windows partitions
[19:44] <denis__> it only says NTFS-partition
[19:44] <denis__> but there are 3, so how do I know which one I want to delete?
[19:44] <cinex> doesn't that count as recognised?
[19:44] <hix> hrhr
[19:44] <hix> so its ok or not?
[19:44] <cinex> erm... the device name/number
[19:44] <denis__> I can't work with it
[19:44] <denis__> ok, one second
[19:45] <cinex> no linux partitioner is going to say "this is a windows system disk"
[19:45] <denis__> but it could show me the partition name..
[19:46] <cinex> i wouldn't know. my disks dont have labels.
[19:46] <denis__> you have windows and no labels for the partitions?
[19:46] <cinex> even though cfdisk has a label column
[19:46] <denis__> perhaps you can recognise something
[19:46] <denis__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/136961/
[19:47] <cinex> i dont have windows, but if i did I would know where it was.
[19:47] <cinex> ok, how big is the windows parition ?
[19:47] <cinex> 23 GB ?
[19:48] <cinex> 22 Gb
[19:48] <denis__> there are several
[19:48] <brad_> if i don't have a sound server won't I have a problem with programs blocking the sound card ?
[19:48] <denis__> one should be areound 23 GB and 2 have about 42 GB
[19:49] <cinex> ls /dev/sda1
[19:49] <cinex> ls /dev/hda1
[19:49] <mwild> does anyone know if there is a program for kubuntu to connect my garmin gorerunner to my pc and get data of.
[19:49] <Laruft> hi, i'm trying to set up virtualbox on kubuntu jaunty,  seems i am missing the source files to build a kernel
[19:50] <brad_> Laruft: I'm going to recommend kvm
[19:50] <Laruft> "Error! Your kernel source for kernel 2.6.28-9-generic cannot be found at
[19:50] <Laruft> /lib/modules/2.6.28-9-generic/build or /lib/modules/2.6.28-9-generic/source
[19:50] <brad_> it's somethink like source
[19:50] <Laruft> kvm?
[19:50] <brad_> instead of virtualbox
[19:50] <Laruft> i have hardware kvm lol
[19:50] <brad_> it's much faster
[19:51] <Laruft> really? hmmm i thought the only choices were virtualbox + vmware, and vbox was better
[19:51] <brad_> it's not a kvm, it's called kvm
[19:51] <Laruft> brad, link?
[19:51] <brad_> oh no
[19:51] <brad_> xen is GREAT, but hard, kvm is not as great but easy
[19:51] <brad_> sudo apt-get install kvm virt-manger
[19:51] <xt> generalisation is EASY
[19:52] <Laruft> xen is better?
[19:52] <brad_> xen is the best
[19:52] <brad_> but kvm is catching up, and for the ease I'd go with kvm
[19:52] <Laruft> do any allow direct access to physical partition, so i can dual boot as well as run a system inside linux
[19:52] <brad_> in fact I've got a debian running 2008, and 2 2003 under kvm
[19:53] <Laruft> i'm not a n00b i'll look into xen if u think it's better
[19:54] <brad_> I'm not a n00b and xen kick my ass
[19:54] <mwild> where do I find KVM
[19:54] <brad_> but xen takes a custom kernel and all
[19:55] <Laruft> it's the kernel thing I'm a bit stumped on.. i have the dkms package.. but no source/modules
[19:55] <brad_> I really don't recommend it, you have to  install the kernel and then boot from it, and the vm's are hard to create and even harder to debug
[19:55] <SAngeli>  hi, I need help with migrating my KMail from one PC to another. I moved the entire /Mail folder to my new PC but I need to know which files to cp over to my new .kde profile. Any idea?
[19:55] <brad_> with kvm, there is a gui if you want to use it
[19:55] <brad_> but with kvm or xen you must have a chip that supports it
[19:56] <brad_> and kvm is now part of the kernel
[19:57] <brad_> I spent a week trying to get 2003 under xen, and it just would not run, I spent about 20 mins with kvm.
[19:58] <brad_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine
[19:58] <Laruft> I'll try kvm, cheers
[19:59] <brad_> lol
[19:59] <Laruft> virtualbox seems to be the popular one tho
[19:59] <Laruft> just reading up on xen.. and like,, hmm wtf.
[19:59] <Laruft> lost me on page 1 lol
[19:59] <brad_> i run virtual box with 2003 server under it, and it was pretty slow compaired to kvm
[20:00] <brad_> all of my servers are now running virtualized under kvm.
[20:00] <brad_> s/run/ran
[20:01] <brad_> Laruft: what distro are you running ?
[20:01] <Laruft> kubuntu jaunty
[20:02] <brad_> k, the kvm in lenny is a little old and you will see much improvment if you run the kvm from testing, but I'm sure jaunty is pretty new
[20:03] <brad_> the think I love most about kvm is it redirects the output via vnc
[20:03] <brad_> s/think/thing
[20:04] <brad_> now back to my sound server, if I don't run one won't i get some audio programs blocking my output
[20:09] <Laruft> thx for your help brad
[20:09] <Laruft> back in a bit
[20:23] <zodiac_es> hola!
[20:30] <bil> Why does kde4.1 logs me out every 10-15 minutes?
[20:52] <Nikke> Hello there, is kde 4.2 in kubuntu 8.10?
[21:00] <heinkel_111> Nikke: yes, but only through backports repository
[21:00] <Nikke> heinkel_111, yeah i just found it :) hehe thx
[21:00] <heinkel_111> Nikke: this means it was made available after the initial release of 8.10 and is slightly less tested
[21:00] <heinkel_111> but I think most users prefer it to 4.1.x anyway
[21:03] <TKorvus> hello all.....again
[21:03] <Shadowkllr> hey guys, anyone know why/how to diagnose why kubuntu would just restart the computer during bootup? isn't there a way to hide the splash screen?
[21:04] <gusman> yo
[21:04] <TKorvus> i finally got kubuntu to run. I've enabled some of the flashy toys while messing with the display settings and such. I can see my mouse pointer and thats it.
[21:05] <TKorvus> does anyone know how to revert the display settings like the translucency and such back to normal?
[21:10] <TKorvus> anyone around?
[21:10] <shadowkllr_> I am
[21:10] <shadowkllr_> but i do not know the answer to your problem
[21:11] <shadowkllr_> unfortunately
[21:11] <shadowkllr_> i just fixed a problem
[21:11] <TKorvus> k
[21:11] <Shadowkllr> of my own
[21:14] <zer0o> hi guys, can anyone help me with my WEP key issue on my WICD?
[21:17] <nephilus> Can any one tell me how to find the wep key on my laptop? i don't know it but it is set to auto connect and i don't know how to find out what it is...
[21:18] <zer0o> nephilus: u get connected via router?
[21:18] <nephilus> never mind i figured out how i could do it :)
[21:19] <zer0o> open ur browser, in the address box type 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1
[21:19] <zer0o> ah ok
[21:19] <nephilus> lol
[21:21] <bubba> my computer recently have excluded the hilbernate alternative from my shut down menu. why, I like to hilbernate
[21:23] <bubba> Is this problem common?
[21:23] <kaddi> hi, i'm experiencing some weired behaviour with kopete: whenever I move a contact from one group to another I lose the authorization I had and must request a new one. Is this normal icq behavoiur or a bug?
[21:24] <kaddi> this bug report from 2007 suggests the first, but I'm fairly i didn't have those problems up til recently
[21:24] <kaddi> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154280
[21:25] <josh-l> i really think kde 4.2 is better than any of the mac osx guis
[21:25] <josh-l> i am deeply in love, and a pretty recent convert from gnome
[21:27] <sourcemaker> has someone installed the new kernel 2.6.29?
[21:29] <bubba> It seems like no one have the problem of hilbernate or suspend to disk icons disappear from the menu...
[21:34] <sebastian> hello, i need help recompiling my virtualbox kernel module
[21:34] <sebastian> kernel headers for my kernel are installed
[21:34] <sebastian> linux-headers-2.6.25-2-386
[21:34] <sebastian> but the subdirectories of /usr/bin/linux-headers-2.6.25-2-386 are linking to those of /usr/bin/linux-headers-2.6.25-2 (without "-368")
[21:35] <sebastian> but this directory / package does not exist!!
[21:37] <noaXess> hi all
[21:38] <noaXess> earlier i could print any files from konsole.. eg. if i want print 20 pdf documents at once..
[21:38] <noaXess> i think i used kprint or someting like this.. but this isn't possible now
[21:38] <noaXess> is there any other tool or konsole tool to do that?
[21:38] <noaXess> !info kprint
[21:38] <squid0> hi
[21:39] <squid0> I'm not getting any sound suddenly. I tried sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart , but still not getting any sound from apps
[21:40] <squid0> any suggestions?
[21:40] <squid0> besides restarting
[21:41] <noaXess> squid0: what about testing with alsa-mixer?
[21:42] <squid0> noaXess: I don't have that installed
[21:42] <squid0> kmix shows sound levels to be unmuted and at a decent volume
[21:47] <BluesKaj> squid0 , alsamixer in the terminal
[21:47] <zuludelta5> could someone help me with kmail?
[21:47] <noaXess> why? :)
[21:47] <noaXess> yes.. just ask, or give us your problem ;)
[21:48] <squid0> BluesKaj: ah
[21:48] <squid0> when I do alsamixer, I get the following: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[21:48] <zuludelta5> ok...my gmail account shows up on the left hand side in the folder view, but my hotmail account doesn't
[21:48] <p-f_> When booting up, I get "kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot" and then nothing else happens. ever. Until I change console and manually start x. Why?
[21:49] <zuludelta5> and the hotmail messages keep going into the gmail folder  :(
[21:50] <zuludelta5> I thought it would be like outlook and make a seperate tree view for each account
[21:51] <noaXess> zuludelta5: you can make separate folder tree's for each account.. in the account you need to define, where the email's goes..
[21:51] <knoxville> What up fellas
[21:51] <zuludelta5> btw --this OS, Kubuntu, beats xp and vista by a mile and you guys are great
[21:52] <knoxville> any *Nix destroys anything from Microsoft
[21:52] <noaXess> zuludelta5: configure kmail / accounts / edit your account / then setup destination folder for new mails
[21:52] <noaXess> zuludelta5: my words :)
[21:52] <zuludelta5> noaXess -- working your solution...
[21:53] <p-f__> Net died right after I wrote this, here it is again just in case it didn't get through: When booting up, I get "kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot" and then nothing else happens. ever. Until I change console and manually start x. Why?
[21:54] <knoxville> p-f so you have to boot to the recovery console in order for it to boot?
[21:54] <noaXess> p-f__: i think i see this error also on my system but without any problem.. seems to be another problem
[21:55] <p-f__> knoxville: I just need to change console using alt-fX and log in manually
[21:55] <zuludelta5> noaXess - sweet!!  ok, done.  that was easy and thank you
[21:55] <knoxville> p-f did you make any major changes lately?
[21:56] <p-f__> knoxville: updated kernel, but I just tried with the old one and got the same problem
[21:56] <p-f__> knoxville: I did hibernate, though, which is big risky business on linux
[21:56] <knoxville> is there anything located in your /tmp directory
[21:57] <p-f__> kde junk
[21:57] <knoxville> kk
[21:57] <p-f__> it looks like it's trying to resume from my swap partition, failing and then trying to "boot normally"
[21:58] <knoxville> wonder if you have to edit grub a bit to choose the correct parition to boot to
[22:00] <p-f__> menu.lst looks just fine
[22:00] <knoxville> did you ever try "dmesg | grep -i failed" from the console after boot
[22:00] <p-f__> yep, I also read the bug report from which you got that :)
[22:00] <noaXess> zuludelta5: no problem..
[22:00] <knoxville> lol
[22:00] <noaXess> so.. need some sleep..
[22:00] <noaXess> bye all
[22:01] <p-f__> Resume from disk failed
[22:01] <knoxville> that is the output from dmesg?
[22:01] <noaXess> p-f__: what kernel are you using?
[22:01] <p-f__> PM: Checking hibernation image, Resume from disk failed
[22:01] <compilerwriter> blueskaj you using Jaunty?
[22:01] <p-f__> noaXess: 2.6.27-7-generic but, as I said, the problem also occurs using my new -11 version
[22:01] <knoxville> p-f you running 8.10?
[22:02] <p-f__> knoxville: apparently
[22:02] <noaXess> p-f__ my system runs on -14
[22:02] <p-f__> (I never really got the point of distro version numbers...what's the point? We're all using the same repos anyways)
[22:02] <compilerwriter> anyone here using Jaunty alpha 6?  How is it going?
[22:03] <noaXess> so... really need some sleep..
[22:03] <noaXess> bye
[22:03] <squid0> bye
[22:03] <knoxville> p-f did you ever read this : http://turbulentsky.com/resume-from-hibernate-failed-on-ubuntu.html
[22:05] <zer0o> can anyone help me fixing my WICD that wont work with a WEP key on my wifi connection?
[22:06] <p-f__> knoxville: I'm a bit reluctant to try that, considering the fact that the poster seems to have no idea why it worked...
[22:06] <knoxville> lol....fair enough
[22:06] <knoxville> zer0o is there a reaason your running WICD?
[22:06] <p-f__> I'll read up on it though, thanks
[22:06] <josh-l> is koffice2 available for intrepid yet?
[22:06] <knoxville> no prob p-f
[22:07] <michael> o hai
[22:08] <zer0o> knoxville: yes the brand of my USB wifi pen and relative drivers were compatible with Network Manager so after a long search on google tryin to understand why the wi-fi connection was sooo slow and continously falling, i found a guide that explained that i had to get rid of NM in behalf of WICD plus substitute the RT73 drivers with the COMPAT-WIRELESS ones etc etc etc and now it perfectly works
[22:09] <zer0o> apart from the fact that it wont recognize encryptions...
[22:09] <zer0o> *incompatible, i meant
[22:09] <knoxville> makes sense zer0o, unfortunantely I have no experience with WICD
[22:09] <knoxville> I sorry :(
[22:09] <zer0o> -_-
[22:09] <knoxville> ^ _ ^
[22:11] <zer0o> i even asked on #wicd noones replyin...
[22:11] <zer0o> if flaccid was here...
[22:11] <zer0o> or even ActionParnsip
[22:11] <zer0o> lol
[22:11] <knoxville> how can you find the list of available IRC channels?
[22:11] <zer0o> with the list command
[22:11] <zer0o> slash + list
[22:11] <knoxville> thanks zer0o
[22:11] <zer0o> np
[22:11] <zer0o> but dont do it
[22:11] <knoxville> to late
[22:11] <knoxville> lol
[22:11] <zer0o> unless u dont have a really
[22:11] <knoxville> how should I be doing it?
[22:11] <zer0o> well it means ur connection's strong enough
[22:11] <zer0o> :D
[22:11] <knoxville> is there a better way of doing it?
[22:12] <zer0o> well u can go on the freenode website and search it there
[22:12] <knoxville> kk
[22:14] <ed___> hello
[22:14] <knoxville> sup ed
[22:14] <josh-l> is koffice2 available for intrepid yet?
[22:15] <ed___> it 's my first time here, is there any special rule ?
[22:17] <kaddi> ed___ jeah, everybody must do exactly what i tell them to do. ;)
[22:17] <knoxville> woot woot!
[22:17] <zer0o> ed___: thy shall never say god
[22:18] <kaddi> just kidding, i'm no official, but i've always gotten along by being nice to the other users and simply ask the questions you have instead of asking for permission to ask or any other preliminaries
[22:18] <knoxville> ^_^
[22:18] <kaddi> so i think it's basically as simple as that :)
[22:19] <marcelo> hi everybody!
[22:19] <ed___> lool oki
[22:19] <knoxville> I concur!
[22:20] <kaddi> !hi |marcelo
[22:21] <kaddi> hmm... I hope I didn't frighten him away :s
[22:21] <marcelo> thanks
[22:21] <marcelo> all of you
[22:21] <knoxville> #C
[22:22] <marcelo> this is the first tima that i'm using kubuntu
[22:22] <demonn> where can i change the resolution of the screen in 3.5.5 kde
[22:22] <marcelo> I found it to be really interesting
[22:22] <kaddi> marcelo is interesting a good thing or not? :D
[22:23] <marcelo> of course it is interesting my friend
[22:24] <marcelo> in fact, i came to kubuntu from ubuntu
[22:24] <demonn> anybody
[22:24] <marcelo> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, you know
[22:24] <kaddi> marcelo: I ask, because where I come from, if you can't say anything positive about something, you call it "interesting" :D
[22:24] <p-f__> marcelo: enjoying the non-intuitive cursors then eh :)
[22:24] <marcelo> ok
[22:25] <marcelo> that is
[22:25] <marcelo> I'm brazilian
[22:25] <demonn> resolution?? any body
[22:25] <marcelo> where are you from, my friend kaddi:
[22:26] <kaddi> marcelo germany
[22:26] <marcelo> and you p-f:
[22:26] <p-f__> the 'busy' cursor consists of two balls rotating around a center. Of course, that center is *not* the pointer's tip. No, the pointer's tip is an invisible bit at the top left corner of the invisible box that surrounds it.
[22:26] <marcelo> that's nice
[22:26] <p-f__> hurray fuer Deutschland und nur-Englischer Keyboarden
[22:26] <demonn> anybody its simple question
[22:27] <demonn> allez
[22:27] <kaddi> demonn i ain't using 3.5.5 anymore, i'm firing ab an old kubuntu now, to see if its 3.5.5
[22:27] <demonn> its 8.04 the only kubuntu that its good :P
[22:27] <kaddi> and i think most people here have moved to kde4, so they won't be able to tell yo either
[22:27] <demonn> after 3 years of gnome kde its lil bit dunno strange
[22:27] <demonn> :D
[22:28] <demonn> kaddi: most ppl dont like kde4 :P
[22:28] <kaddi> demonn from what i can see its simply start->systemsettings->monitor&display
[22:28] <kaddi> really.. haven't met them yet.
[22:29] <demonn> lol
[22:29] <demonn> nothing happend
[22:29] <demonn> shange the resolution
[22:29] <demonn> rien
[22:30] <marcelo> how long have you been using linux systems, kaddi
[22:30] <kaddi> then you probably have some bigger problem and i'm not really the person to help you with that
[22:30] <kaddi> marcelo on and off since 2005
[22:30] <kaddi> and you?
[22:31] <marcelo> I'm a new user
[22:31] <marcelo> just 2 weeks
[22:31] <marcelo> kaddi I think I'll lots of things here
[22:32] <marcelo> about linux
[22:32] <demonn> kaddi: its ok i found it wow nice HZ :P
[22:32] <kaddi> demonn: did you use the systemadministration buttondown on the left?
[22:32] <marcelo> learn*
[22:32] <demonn> yes
[22:32] <demonn> !offtopic
[22:32] <demonn> !offtopic | marcelo
[22:33] <marcelo> thanks
[22:33] <demonn> marcelo: #ubuntu+1 for kubuntu ubuntu and xubuntu 9.04
[22:34] <marcelo> thank u a lot demonn
[22:34] <demonn> ya welcome
[22:34] <demonn> :P
[22:34]  * demonn has KDE only cuz his BOX its blue with blue neon light :P
[22:35] <Zengol> !creox
[22:35] <Zengol> !dfx
[22:39] <Zengol> !jack
[22:39] <demonn> Zengol: what are you looking for
[22:40] <Zengol> Tryin to figure out an easy way to install JACK.
[22:40] <demonn> what is jack
[22:40] <Zengol> I have some guitar software to use, but it require's JACK.
[22:41] <demonn> lol
[22:41] <Zengol> I guess it's an RT based software for recording guitar through your PC.
[22:41] <demonn> haha i had the same problem
[22:41] <demonn> wait
[22:41] <demonn> witch program are ya using
[22:41] <demonn> the one with kubuntu
[22:41] <Zengol> Creox
[22:41] <Zengol> Oh.
[22:41] <Zengol> Adept.
[22:41] <Zengol> Wait, what do you mean, haha.
[22:41] <demonn> you have one in adept
[22:42] <Zengol> I downloaded Creox c using Adept.
[22:42] <demonn> k
[22:42] <Zengol> But i believe it require's JACK to use it.
[22:42] <demonn> hmm when itryed it
[22:42] <demonn> i didnt had input
[22:42] <demonn> dunno why
[22:42] <kaddi> sudo apt-get instal jack  :)
[22:42] <demonn> that may work
[22:42] <demonn> :D
[22:42] <kaddi> sudo apt-get install jack  :)
[22:44] <Zengol> Hell, that work's haha.
[22:44] <Zengol> Thank's man.
[22:44] <Zengol> I'll try this and see if i can run the program.
[22:45] <ufuk_k> you should install qjackctl and user jack server, I think, Zengol
[22:45] <BluesKaj> good luck , jack is  quite "involved" so to speak
[22:45] <demonn> Zengol: tell me if it works i want to plug in my guitar also :)
[22:46] <MrRoboto1> *groan*
[22:47] <MrRoboto1> On my HP Compaq nc6220 laptop, KDE 4.1 seems to have display issues.
[22:47] <samira> hello, i need a software to chat, i want to talk and use webcam, is there any software?
[22:47] <Zengol> I can't figure out any of this, haha.
[22:47] <MrRoboto1> It'll continously flicker without stopping..
[22:47] <MrRoboto1> :|
[22:47] <Zengol> Wish i was a little more litterate with Linux...
[22:47] <MrRoboto1> but GNOME and XFCE Dont have this issue.
[22:47] <MrRoboto1> I use the GMA900 Mobile GPU
[22:47] <jamesjedimaster> samira: kubuntu includes kopete, also you can install amsn and skype
[22:48] <demonn> samira: what kidn of IM do ya need
[22:48] <MrRoboto1> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 + Kubuntu-desktop
[22:48] <BluesKaj> MrRoboto1, which graphics card ?
[22:48] <samira> i need something which i can talk via microphone
[22:49] <MrRoboto1> i915.
[22:49] <jamesjedimaster> the three programs are able to use with mic and webcam
[22:49] <demonn> damn i cant install flash for mozilla
[22:49] <BluesKaj> MrRoboto1, lspci | grep audio , in the terminal
[22:50] <MrRoboto1> arrrgh, can I do it from within GNOME?
[22:50] <MrRoboto1> It does it so bad in KDE, that I cant do anything.
[22:50] <kaddi> samira but with what do you want to talk. which software is the person using, you want to talk to
[22:51] <BluesKaj> MrRoboto1, yes use the console /terminal
[22:51] <dwidmann> Maybe it's a case of kwin_composite not liking you, MrRoboto1
[22:51] <MrRoboto1> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[22:51] <MrRoboto1> well, how do I fix this issue?
[22:52] <MrRoboto1> It does it in KDE 3.5 aswell.
[22:52] <dwidmann> hum, that makes it odd then
[22:52] <Zengol> I'll have to try this when i get back later, it's giving the worst headache i've ever had, haha.
[22:52] <MrRoboto1> Oddly though, it never did it in KDE 4.0
[22:52] <MrRoboto1> :|
[22:52] <demonn> can any body tell me how i can install flash for firefix i have installed but nothing happens
[22:53] <MrRoboto1> :o
[22:53] <dwidmann> MrRoboto1: wonder if it'll still be present for you in 4.2
[22:53] <MrRoboto1> I would try, but I dont know how to install KDE 4.2
[22:53] <MrRoboto1> kubuntu-desktop gave me 4.1
[22:53] <samira> i don't know what u meanm but now i downloaded the skype but i don't know how to install it, can anyone help me to?
[22:53] <BluesKaj> !flashplugin-nonfree | demonn
[22:54] <BluesKaj> !flash
[22:54] <jamesjedimaster> samira: there is a .deb package for skype, all you have to do is: dpkg -i skype.....deb
[22:54] <MrRoboto1> or.
[22:54] <dwidmann> MrRoboto1: well, you could download the kubuntu jaunty iso and test without installing ... you can get it for 8.10 from a PPA repository
[22:54] <MrRoboto1> sudo apt-get install skype...I guess.
[22:54] <MrRoboto1> mmm...
[22:55] <MrRoboto1> PPA repo?
[22:55] <MrRoboto1> Got one for me to go to?
[22:55] <MrRoboto1> as for Jaunty.....I'd rather use it when it releases next month
[22:55] <MrRoboto1> I dont trust Linux Betas.
[22:55] <dwidmann> MrRoboto1: I think so, lets see if I have it on hand or whether I need to look it up
[22:55] <dwidmann> MrRoboto1: that's why I said you could try that without installing :)
[22:56] <samira> but it says: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[22:56] <dwidmann> !sudo | samira
[22:56] <MrRoboto1> sudo su ftw!
[22:56] <jamesjedimaster> samira: sorry, you must run: sudo dpkg -i skype......deb
[22:57] <dwidmann> bah, sudo -s for you!
[22:58] <jamesjedimaster> not much users use or know the root user
[22:58] <MrRoboto1> I've been using Linux since KNOPPIX 3.5
[22:58] <MrRoboto1> :P
[22:58] <MrRoboto1> Infact, thats where I started.
[22:58] <BluesKaj> MrRoboto1, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa
[22:58] <samira> THANKS
[22:58] <MrRoboto1> Didnt start using Ubuntu until October 2007 :P
[22:59] <jamesjedimaster> samira: anytime
[22:59] <MrRoboto1> I liked 7.10, 8.04 was a major change for me :P
[22:59] <MrRoboto1> 8.10 even more
[22:59] <dwidmann> MrRoboto1: bearing in mind of course that those aren't official packages (or you would be getting them from intrepid-backports or intrepid-updates)
[22:59] <BluesKaj> MrRoboto1, goto thr url, above ..it'll help
[23:00] <MrRoboto1> thanks!
[23:00] <dwidmann> MrRoboto1: my first taste was mandrake move (which was based on mandrake 9, I think)
[23:02] <BluesKaj> knoppix, fedora, suse, mandriva , BSD , then kubuntu
[23:02] <BluesKaj> and a taste of debian
[23:03] <denis_> !de
[23:03] <MrRoboto1> *stabs*
[23:03] <MrRoboto1> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60487016493B3065
[23:05] <BluesKaj> MrRoboto1, https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories
[23:07] <MrRoboto1> well...
[23:07] <MrRoboto1> thats for AWN
[23:07] <MrRoboto1> not KDE.
[23:25] <psyco> hey just installed 8.10 and im having troubles setting up a static IP
[23:25] <psyco> k netowkr manager is garbage so im trying to do it manually
[23:33] <demon> hmm where can i change the bootsplash the GDM them
[23:33] <demon> e
[23:33] <cinex> all i know
[23:33] <cinex> is that it is more complicated than just replacing an image
[23:34] <demon> really? on gnome there is a start up menager and you can chanhe them very easy :P
[23:35] <cinex> ima google
[23:35] <demon> e ima
[23:35] <cinex> http://jayant7k.blogspot.com/2007/06/change-boot-splash-screen-ubuntu.html
[23:36] <demon> but its for ubuntu
[23:36] <cinex> the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu et al is the desktop
[23:36] <cinex> ?
[23:37] <dwidmann> Yeah
[23:37] <demon> hmm
[23:38] <cinex> oh and they come with different splash screen too
[23:39] <demon> cinex: lol
[23:40] <cinex> ubuntu is mostly just debian anyway.
[23:40] <demon> cinex:  will you be able to help try install a boot splash
[23:41] <cinex> just do what it says on the link and reeboot.
[23:41] <cinex> or, if you like, boot it with qemu (that might be a bad idea)
[23:42] <Zengol> Is there a way to make a shortcut to my 2nd partition on my desktop?
[23:42] <cinex> last time i did that i had to fsck the drive - lots of erros
[23:42] <cinex> yes Zengol
[23:42] <Zengol> Do i just drag the icon there and release?
[23:42] <cinex> ln -s /path/to/drive ~/Desktop/short-cut-name
[23:42] <Zengol> Oh crap... Lol.
[23:42] <cinex> its called a 'soft link'
[23:42] <Zengol> Nvm.
[23:42] <Zengol> I'm not even gonna try.
[23:43] <cinex> Zengol:
[23:43] <mile> hello. I'm tryng to start a console-only session with kubuntu 8.10 (ctrl+alt+F1), but all I get are flickering vertical bars on my monitor. I read it's some problem with the x server. Anybody has a solution?
[23:43] <cinex> Zengol: I dont know how to do it any other way. but it is super simple
[23:44] <cinex> mile: what graphics driver?
[23:44] <cvd> hello there\
[23:44] <jamesjedimaster> mile: try ctrl+alt+f2 (2 to 6 are not affected with the graphical boot)
[23:44] <koksy89> hi
[23:44] <cvd> Where the KpackageKit show the Total mb's to be downloaded?
[23:45] <mile> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) [1002:5955]
[23:45] <cvd> hey
[23:45] <demon> cinex: i cant find how to install a splash that i have download it on my desktop
[23:45] <koksy89> who are you
[23:45] <koksy89> ima li makedonac
[23:45] <demon> ima ama kuti
[23:46] <mile> jamesjedimaster: no use. F1 to F6, all show just bars...
[23:46] <cinex> demon: can you put it into the /usr/lib/upsplash ?
[23:46] <koksy89> ok
[23:46] <cinex> demon: is it .so file?
[23:46] <koksy89> baja li se
[23:46] <koksy89> hehe
[23:46] <demon> cinex: nope tar
[23:47] <cinex> demon, what if you untar it ?
[23:47] <cinex> is it a .so file ?
[23:47] <demon> lol
[23:47] <demon> lemme see
[23:47] <cvd> hello
[23:47] <koksy89> trt
[23:48] <demon> cinex: nope
[23:48] <cinex> directorys? /usr /etc/ /lib
[23:48] <cinex> ?
[23:48] <demon> but i am guessing that i am donwloading KDM theme you knwo log in theme not a boot splash
[23:48] <cinex> ahhh ok
[23:48] <cvd> demon,
[23:48] <demon> and i want a BOOT SPALSH
[23:49] <cinex> demon: I know.
[23:49] <cinex> depends, whats in the tar i guess
[23:49] <psyco> hye just wondering, how do I create a newtowrk between 2 kubuntu computers? ive only done linux with windows
[23:49] <cinex> psycho, NFS ?
[23:50] <psyco> i just need to transfer files between them
[23:50] <psyco> nfs?
[23:50] <demon> cinex: i am trying to boot my pc as a lcars its not that ahrd
[23:50] <demon> hard*
[23:50] <cinex> sudo apt-get install bootupmanager
[23:50] <psyco> cinex: lol ill check that out
[23:50] <cinex> psyco: NFS is for sharing directorys over a network. kind of like samba
[23:51] <psyco> awesome
[23:51] <psyco> is in in the repos?
[23:51] <cinex> its much simpler though
[23:51] <cinex> yeah... ill find u a guide
[23:51] <psyco> sweet
[23:51] <demon> cinex: me :P??
[23:51] <cvd> Any now about KpackageKit here?
[23:51] <cinex> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[23:51] <psyco> cheers
[23:52] <cinex> demon: sudo apt-get install bootupmanager
[23:52] <psyco> do i need it on both computers?
[23:52] <demon> lol
[23:52] <demon> doesnt work
[23:52] <cinex> nah, i read it on a forum.
[23:53] <cinex> demon go through system settings/kcontrol and try to install the tar as a login splash
[23:53] <cinex> see if it takes it lol
[23:54] <demon> kcotrol??
[23:54] <cinex> kcontrol (not in kde4)
[23:54] <demon> hmm in sistem setting ?? i dont gace Kcontrol
[23:55] <demon> have*
[23:55] <cinex> demon: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Change-Ubuntu-Bootsplash-Theme-55237.shtml
[23:55] <MrRoboto1> wtf...
[23:56] <cinex> demon: kcontrol isn't in the kmenu anymore
[23:56] <dwidmann> kcontrol is being ported to kde4, from what I've heard somewhat recently
[23:56] <dwidmann> :)
[23:56] <cinex> they are getting rid of it i think
[23:56] <MrRoboto1> KDE 4.1 doesnt do these wierd glitches ON my built-in display.
[23:56] <cinex> oh
[23:56] <MrRoboto1> My monitor hinge is busted, but I can still use it partially...
[23:56] <MrRoboto1> :|
[23:57] <psyco> dwidmann: yay :D
[23:57] <MrRoboto1> meeeeeeeeh.
[23:57] <MrRoboto1> :(
[23:58] <MrRoboto1> HALP!
[23:58] <demon> cinex: is there a "start-up menager" for kde just like for gnome
[23:58] <nsokolow> Is it safe to update directly from hardy to jaunty beta?
[23:58] <MrRoboto1> YEA.
[23:58] <MrRoboto1> Using the Jaunty ISO.
[23:59] <cinex> demon: I have no idea, im on kde-look.org I'm gonna try and install one.
[23:59] <MrRoboto1> just do I migrate/upgrade
[23:59] <demon> and one more thing why when i click on another window doesnt show that one i need to click on the top how can i change it
[23:59] <nsokolow> MrRoboto1: What about without having to burn a new disc? (Just editing sources.list or whatever)
[23:59] <cinex> demon that will be in the options somehwere, under window behaivour maybe