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pochuhggdh: webkit 1.0 is the suck, you should use 1.1 or 1.3 if you don't want it to crash all the time00:08
hggdhpochu, and where do I find 1.1 (or 1.3)?00:08
pochuwebkitgtk.org00:09
pochuthere is a PPA also I think00:09
pochu(unofficial)00:09
hggdhdarn.00:09
hggdhwill have to check with upstream *which* webkit they used...00:09
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dlynchIf you were the upstream author and packager of a program called "Rapid Photo Downloader", would you name your package "rapidphoto"? Or would you simply name it "rapid"?03:30
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dholbachgood morning06:41
RAOFHowdie!06:41
iulianG'morning06:42
dholbachheya RAOF, hey iulian06:42
didrocksmorning o/06:59
binarymutantdholbach, I saw your post https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/charm/+bug/347346?comments=all do you mean the one in Jaunty installs to /usr/local?07:11
ubottuUbuntu bug 347346 in charm "request sync from Debian" [Undecided,New]07:11
dholbachbinarymutant: yes07:12
binarymutantdholbach, oh okay, the one in debian is good07:13
dholbachbinarymutant: that's the debian source built on jaunty07:13
binarymutantdholbach, I don't think I understand, the one in debian installs to just /usr   :/07:15
dholbachbinarymutant: did you try building the debian source on a jaunty machine?07:16
dholbachbinarymutant: I think it's because of python2.5 (debian) vs. python2.6 (ubuntu)07:17
binarymutantdholbach, I originally did, and I just did it not two minutes ago07:17
binarymutant++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++07:18
binarymutantack sorry07:18
dholbachbinarymutant: try adding --install-layout=deb to the setup.py calls and see if that fixes it07:19
binarymutantdholbach, I can add it but the one in Debian installs to /usr on my end, what are you using to build it?07:20
dholbachjust an updated jaunty pbuilder07:20
binarymutantdholbach, I'll test it out with pbuilder, I was using just dpkg-buildpackage07:30
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\shmoin07:56
\shs07:56
siretart`hi \sh!07:57
\shjust testing the acer netbook with jaunty unr in real life work....07:59
\shand it's fantastic...intel cards and broadcom cards won't show 8021q tagged packages with tcpdump...but cheap realteks which are built into the acer, do08:00
\shso great tool for network debugging ,)08:00
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thekornmoin \sh!08:03
\shmoins thekorn :)08:03
binarymutantdholbach, thanks for pointing this out to me, and your solution with the --install-layout=deb worked. I don't why it was building in usr/local but it's fixed. What should I do with this new rules file?08:22
dholbachbinarymutant: I'd suggest you attach the debdiff between current-ubuntu-version (-0ubuntu1) and debian-version-plus-fix (-1ubuntu1) to the bug08:23
binarymutantthanks for the help dholbach08:23
dholbachbinarymutant: no worries08:24
binarymutanthow come distutils doesn't have --install-layout in its help file? Thats kind of weird08:30
Toadstoolgood morning!08:34
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_rubenbugger .. dkms isnt picking up my second make command as specified in dkms.conf :(09:41
Mewcenary2Good morning.  I'm after a package to help maintain.  I've started looking through the Debian list of those orphaned etc, but I was wondering if anyone here looked after one that they might not want any more etc?  Preferably something relatively simple at this point...10:10
asacLaney: connman ...10:20
asacLaney: did you ask for a merge?10:20
asacLaney: since i am listed as Maintainer: you should have asked me ;)10:22
asacLaney: i guess its ok. just that its maintained in bzr10:22
asacLaney: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/connman/connman.ubuntu.head10:22
asacLaney: please commit what you uploaded10:23
asacand request merge10:23
asacthanks10:23
asacLaney: ok i committed that stuff now10:31
asacread the bug please10:31
asacin the end it probably doesnt matter as i will push it to debian10:31
asacthen MOTU can maintain the package here10:31
Laneyasac: whoops, sorry. I'm not used to (universe) packages being non-MOTU-maintained10:32
asacLaney: dont worry.10:33
asacleast i should have done was to add Vcs-Bzr header to control10:34
asaci did that now10:34
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rgreeningdholbach: ping12:31
dholbachrgreening: pong12:31
rgreeningI have a FFe bug 34788212:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 347882 in python-django-tagging "FFe for python-django-tagging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34788212:32
rgreeningI have the package ready to dput...12:32
rgreeningdholbach: can I get someone to ok this?12:34
dholbachrgreening: I'm not in the motu release team I'm afraid12:34
rgreeningah... right. who should I add to the bug?12:34
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#Exceptions%20for%20Universe/Multiverse12:34
rgreeningty.12:35
dholbachadded to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/KnowledgeBase12:35
cyberixhello12:41
cyberixxmonad is broken in Jaunty. How do I request a freeze exception?12:41
cyberixhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmonad/+bug/34737912:42
ubottuUbuntu bug 347379 in xmonad "regression in xmonad/gnome -interoperability" [Undecided,New]12:42
cyberixhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmonad/+bug/28827312:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 288273 in xmonad "xmonad unable to compile config file" [Undecided,New]12:43
cyberixhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmonad/+bug/32111312:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 321113 in xmonad "[need-update] Please update xmonad to latest 0.8.1 in Ubuntu 9.04" [Undecided,New]12:43
Laneycyberix: Does the new version fix the issues?12:45
MewcenaryIn a package source, in debian/patches -- are those just reference files to show what was done, and are not actually auto-used by anything?12:46
cyberixLaney: I'll try the packages from Debian12:47
Laney   * New upstream release (no changes, only ghc-6.10 compatibility)12:48
cyberixyep12:48
cyberixThe reason why the current one doesn't work is because the infrastructure was upgraded12:49
cyberixwhile xmonad wasn't12:49
Laneywe have 6.8.2 still12:49
cyberixLaney: It is the x11 API that was upgraded12:50
Laneyoh12:50
cyberixlibghc6-x11-dev12:50
Laneyso we need to update that and rebuild xmonad?12:51
cyberixThe current xmonad requires 1.4.1 while Jaunty has 1.4.212:52
Laneyerm12:53
Laneyso the new xmonad has changes besides 6.10 compatibility which make it work?12:53
* Laney is kinda confused12:53
cyberixI get the following error message "Failed to load interface for12:53
cyberix`Graphics.X11.Xlib.Extras': no package matching X11-1.4.1 was found"12:53
dholbachif somebody has a bit of time to look at these: xnee and gthumb FTBFS12:54
XiXaQDktrKranz: I saw that you were the one who uploaded the twisted-calendarserver package for jaunty universe. I was wondering if this version supports LDAP or PAM for users and groups?12:56
cyberixLaney: xmonad 0.8.1 binary packages from Debian do not work, as they require a later ghc12:56
Laneycyberix: xmonad is backwards compatible to 6.8.2 though isn't it?12:56
cyberixI suppose12:56
Laneyso you can probably rebuild it12:57
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cyberixLaney: I wasn't able to simply dget and dpkg-buildpackage13:06
cyberixLaney: This seems to be more complicated than that13:06
* cyberix feels we should turn on the bat light13:06
cyberixhaskellman to the rescue13:07
Laneygah13:16
cyberixI combined the two bug reports13:18
cyberixand asked the guy who was asking for upgrade about his problem13:19
Laneycyberix:13:19
cyberixyep?13:19
LaneyLoading package base ... linking ... done.13:20
Laney[1 of 1] Compiling Main             ( .xmonad/xmonad.hs, interpreted )13:20
LaneyOk, modules loaded: Main.13:20
Laneythis is running Jaunty13:20
Laneylet me check an Intrepid chroot13:20
cyberixLaney: Try my config file13:20
Laneyit's the one from the bug report13:21
* cyberix feels stupid13:21
cyberixLaney: So that is with xmonad 0.8?13:22
Laneyyes13:22
cyberixthe default one13:22
Laneyyep13:22
Laney0.8.1 has been tied to some Debian stuff we don't have13:22
cyberixDoes your system have libghc6-x11-dev version 1.4.2-1?13:24
Laneyyep13:25
cyberixHow did you compile the configuration file?13:25
Laneyghci13:26
cyberixi?13:26
Laneyyes, that compiles it too13:27
Laneybut ghc --make also works13:27
LaneyCheck you have xmonad libghc6-xmonad-dev and libghc6-xmonad-contrib-dev installed and update13:27
Laneyd13:27
cyberixthey are13:28
cyberixand I cannot get it compiled by running ghc --make13:29
DktrKranzXiXaQ: TBH, I did QA work only, I haven't a real interest in it13:30
cyberixLaney: Funny13:32
cyberixLaney: It is something about my user account13:33
cyberixLaney: I created a new account on my Ubuntu system and I got it compiled13:33
Laneyhuh13:34
Laneycyberix: maybe you downloaded some packages with cabal?13:39
Laneytry ghc-pkg list13:39
XiXaQDktrKranz: oh, ok. Do you know anyone that does have an interest in it? :)13:39
directhexhuh? the cabal is here? eek!13:40
cyberixLaney: Yep. It seems I have some xonad 0.7 stuff installed for my user account13:41
cyberixSo that is the problem13:41
Laneycool13:41
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DktrKranzXiXaQ: package maintainer/uploader: packages.qa.debian.org/t/twisted-calendarserver.html13:54
cyberixI got dpkg locked up while trying to get rid of the local xmonad.13:57
cyberixCan I somehow make it forget a packge.13:57
cyberixjust leave the files on the disk13:57
cyberixmost of them will get overwritten by a new install anyway13:57
cyberixdirect remove or install with --force all doesn't help13:58
porthosewould someone from the release team please have a look at Bug #347220 thxs13:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 347220 in coherence "package python-coherence 0.6.2-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34722013:59
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DktrKranzporthose: no need to have motu-release approval (it would still require archive-admin approval to pass freeze, though). Also, mind sending patch to Arnaud? I think he'll be happy to upload a new upload in Debian.14:08
Laneyporthose: the version is wrong in your diff14:10
porthoseDktrKranz: The patch has already been forwarded to upstream BTS14:11
XiXaQDktrKranz: ah. Thanks :)14:11
porthoseLaney: ??14:11
Laney+coherence (0.6.2-0ubuntu2) jaunty; urgency=low14:11
Laney coherence (0.6.2-1) unstable; urgency=low14:11
Laneyalso you put two #s on the LP bug14:11
* porthose goes and fixes14:12
DktrKranzporthose: thanks :)14:12
bddebianHeya gang14:23
porthoseDktrKranz: new diff uploaded14:23
DktrKranzporthose: I'm having a look14:29
porthose:)14:29
DktrKranzporthose: debdiffs seems the same, am I wrong?14:31
DktrKranzporthose: forget about my previous statement14:32
porthoseDktrKranz: they shouldn't be, the sym link should have changed to usr/share/javascript/mochikit/MochiKit.js /usr/share/pyshared/coherence/web/static/MochiKit.js14:32
Laneyporthose: ehm14:32
Laneythe new version should be 0.6.2-1ubuntu114:33
Laneyand targeted for Jaunty14:33
* porthose goes and fixes 14:33
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porthoseDktrKranz: new diff is up14:38
cyberixLaney: Are you sure the other guy has the same problem?14:44
Laneyno14:44
cyberixLaney: Maybe my bug should be marked nonduplicate and marked invalid14:46
Laneyif you like!14:46
Laneydo you think they're different?14:46
cyberixThe Symptoms seem similar14:47
cyberixI have no idea14:47
cyberixThat is why I asked the guy14:47
DktrKranzporthose: done15:11
porthoseDktrKranz: thank you :)15:11
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porthoseLaney: thank you for your help also ;-)15:28
leonelCherokee  0.99.5  is in the  queue to be accepted to debian unstable,  how long can I wait for a FFE  for Cherokee 0.99.5 ?16:37
DktrKranzleonel: what are the reasons to upgrade it?16:38
leonelDktrKranz: there's been  great improvements and bug fixes  since the  0.11.6 ( in Jaunty )   and the current 0.98.1 ( in Debian Unstable )  has some nasty bugs already fixed on 0.99.516:42
MewcenaryQuestion on feature freeze: If I put an updated package on REVU now, what happens?  (It is not something after a FFE, I'm just curiosu)16:43
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leonelDktrKranz: so it's a no ?16:51
DktrKranzleonel: are there significant bugs? Anything that can't be backported from upstream VCS?16:51
DktrKranzwe're quite late in the game, now it's better to fix than introduce new stuff16:52
leonelDktrKranz: so the train is gone .. thanks   I16:53
DktrKranzMewcenary: it depends. If it's a bugfix only release, it can go in with less headaches, if it contains new features you have to file a FFe, but we're approaching beta, huge changes are likely to go in Karmic.16:53
MewcenaryOk, thanks for the info :)16:54
leonelDktrKranz: the 11.6 in jaunty works better than the 0.98.1 in Debian Unstable so it's better keep the 0.1116:54
leonelDktrKranz: thank you16:54
DktrKranzleonel: a valid reason to work towards a 1.0 and then import it in karmic, thank you for asking ;)16:55
DktrKranzMewcenary: you're welcome16:55
MewcenaryWill Karmic start with an import from Debian, or is that only for major version number changes?16:55
leonelDktrKranz: Yes,  karmic will be the new target with a cherokee 1.0 ..16:56
leonelDktrKranz:  I hope moved to main :-P16:57
leonelhaha16:57
DktrKranzleonel: I don't know that piece of software, what is it about?16:58
leonelDktrKranz:    www.cherokee-project.com16:58
DktrKranzleonel: sounds a bit weird, but I haven't access to HTTP :)16:59
leonelDktrKranz: it's a beautiful  piece16:59
leonelit's a httpd server  light, fast,   loadbalancing17:00
goshawkare there any posters for jaunty release party to use?17:00
nixternalgoshawk: might be a better question for either #ubuntu-marketing or #ubuntu-locoteams ... if there are, they would know about it17:03
nixternalif you are in the US, System76 has fliers available17:03
nixternalreally nice custom ones to be exact17:04
goshawknixternal: thanks17:08
dholbachhyperair: are you OK with me uploading robert_ancell's fix just to get it done in jaunty and then merge your fix from debian in karmic?17:39
hyperairdholbach: that's fine, but the patch is a little big.17:42
hyperairdholbach: by right patching configure{,.in} would do the trick17:42
dholbachhyperair: it's just the autoconf part that is big17:42
hyperairyes that's the thing17:42
dholbachhyperair: I don't have any objections to that patch17:43
hyperairah then it's fine17:43
dholbachok super17:43
dholbachthanks a lot for your work!17:43
hyperairno problem17:43
* dholbach hugs hyperair17:43
* hyperair hugs back17:43
hyperairdholbach: on a side note, are you a dd by any chance?17:44
dholbachhyperair: no, I'm afraid not17:44
hyperairoh. =(17:44
hyperairnevermind then, i'll continue looking for a sponsor.17:45
dholbachgood luck!17:45
hyperairthanks17:45
lucawhere could I find the source of the ubuntu installer?18:10
iantoluca: I'm guessing apt-get source ubiquity18:11
iantoI'm not 100% sure though18:11
lucaok I'll try18:11
lucathat's what I was looking for, thanks ianto!18:15
iantoluca: No problem :)18:15
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ni|i have an init script for a package of mine and i need it to be S9918:30
ni|how can i do this with CDBS?18:30
ni|and what is the default runlevel18:30
ni|actually i need to ensure that its started post X11 start18:37
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bddebiansiretart: You around?18:53
siretartbddebian: sort-of18:55
bddebiansiretart: I was going to file an RM: for shaketracker.  Do you think the multimedia folks care?18:56
siretartbddebian: I personally think the multimedia folks are already way overloaded with the current set of packages18:57
bddebiansiretart: Sure.  I just want to make sure I'm not stepping on anyones toes. :)18:57
siretartI may be wrong, though. and I can only welcome people to actually work in pkg-multimedia :-)18:58
bddebianI think I'm already getting in too many "teams" :)18:59
siretartrecently it has been proposed that the ubuntustudio folks could join there. so far I haven't seen any comment from them18:59
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ni|can someone help me with an init script issue?19:04
siretartni|: wrong channel19:06
ni|siretart: whats the correct channel?19:06
ni|this is a package that hopefully will be added to partner19:06
siretartni|: try #ubuntu19:06
ni|thx19:06
amikropHello. So you know any Python package built using CDBS?19:06
amikrop* Do you know19:07
RainCTamikrop: topshelf and freevial, for instance (but they install the files manually instead of using setup.py); there's also webboard if you want a debhelper example (with setup.py)19:20
amikropRainCT: don't you know of any with distutils (setup.py) + cdbs?19:22
TurlRainCT: ping19:26
RainCTTurl: yes?19:27
RainCTamikrop: I can't remember of any, but have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy19:27
TurlRainCT: hello, I'm wondering if there's any progress in gnome-web-photo?19:27
amikropRainCT: ok, thank you19:28
RainCTTurl: I've uploaded the proposed fix a while ago19:28
TurlRainCT: it doesn't seem to have hit the build machines :/19:28
RainCTTurl: It's probably waiting for manual approval in the queue (because of Beta freeze), shouldn't take much until it is accepted and gets build19:29
Turlok then RainCT, thanks!19:29
RainCTNo problem :)19:29
slytherinTurl: which bug are you talking about?19:30
Turlslytherin: lp #34240819:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 342408 in gnome-web-photo "[jaunty] can't take web screenshot: libxul.so not found" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34240819:30
slytherinRainCT: there is no package in queue.19:31
slytherinRainCT: I mean no package for gnome-web-photo19:31
RainCTuhm.. but the upload got accepted19:31
RainCT[ubuntu/jaunty] gnome-web-photo 0.6-0ubuntu2 (Waiting for approval)19:32
slytherinRainCT: why would a universe package be caught up in queue anyway?19:34
RainCTslytherin: don't ask me, ask the archive admins :)19:35
RainCTslytherin: but the mail slangasek or whoever it was send about the beta freeze mentioned that they would19:36
slytherinoh, I must have missed the mail.19:36
RainCTslytherin: http://paste.debian.net/3141319:37
slytherinRainCT: found the mail, it says universe uploads will need manual push.19:37
* RainCT is afk, homework19:38
slangasekslytherin: because there's only a single queue; the archive is either frozen or unfrozen, there's no separate handling for universe.19:47
slytherinslangasek: I understood that part. But I was wondering where did RainCT's upload go as I didn't find it in queue on launchpad.19:47
slangasekperhaps you're looking at the new queue instead of the unapproved queue?19:48
slytherinslangasek: ah, right. my mistake19:49
Turlslytherin: did you find it?19:55
slytherinTurl: yes, it is in unapproved queue. - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=19:56
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fabrice_spDktrKranz, I've updated Bug #345263 with the patches that fixes CVE's in new version, and the status in previous version. Is it what you expected?20:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 345263 in ubuntu "Sync php-mdb2 2.4.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34526320:26
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fabrice_spHi. It seems we have to rebuild all the package that depends on libmagick as soname has changed. Should I open a bug with each package or better one with all the affected package21:39
fabrice_sp?21:39
fabrice_spI already opened Bug #348160 before seeing that more packages were affected21:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 348160 in imageinfo "imageinfo is not installable in Jaunty, because it's depending on libmagick10" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34816021:40
directhexfabrice_sp, you can file the same bug against multiple packages21:42
directhexfabrice_sp, edit the url for the bug & change the source package name21:42
fabrice_spdirecthex, and in this case, I reference the same bug number in the changelog of all packages?21:42
sbeattiefabrice_sp: it's slightly more complex a change than that, I think, as the library has changed from libmagick to libmagick{core,wand}21:44
fabrice_spsbeattie, the dev package pulls libmagickcore automatically21:45
sbeattieright, but the actual compilation link flags will have changed, and I don't know if that will get updated automatically.21:46
sbeattie-lmagick vs -lmagickcore21:46
sbeattiealso note bug 34614121:47
fabrice_spok. I'll check with the build of imageinfo before going on with the bug report21:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 346141 in kmediafactory "kmediafactory is uninstallable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34614121:47
fabrice_spsbeattie, what I don't understand is why kmediafactory can be installed now as it has not been rebuilt, and should still use libmagick10 (as kallery, for example)21:49
JontheEchidnafwiw, kallery will also need aRts removal. I tried and failed (cmake > autotools :P)21:50
fabrice_spwell: it's a k package... :-P21:51
sbeattiehrm? kmediafactory is not installable now.21:51
fabrice_spaccording to http://gaspa.yattaweb.it/issues/edos/jaunty_i386_edosresults.xml, the affected package are autotrace, imageinfo, jmagick and kallery21:52
* JontheEchidna is a k packager, but he came along around KDE4 where everything starting using CMake rather than autohell21:52
fabrice_spkmediafactory is not listed in the above url :-/21:52
fabrice_spJontheEchidna, I've seen 'some' autohell packages, so I'll have a look21:53
fabrice_sp:-)21:53
sbeattiefabrice_sp: odd; I found kmediafactory exactly through running edos_debcheck.21:53
JontheEchidnaI couldn't get the --without-arts flag to stick21:53
fabrice_sp:-/21:54
JontheEchidnamaybe I didn't set it in enough places? I don't know21:54
fabrice_spsbeattie, imageinfo doesn't have any -lmagick flag.22:00
fabrice_spI'll have a look tomorrow morning to the other ones, including aRts removal for kallery22:01
fabrice_spbye22:02
sbeattiefabrice_sp: is configure able to find imagemagick? and sorry, it'd be passing -lMagick.22:03
fabrice_spsbeattie, I'm trying to build it right now without imagemagick in a clean schroot22:03
sbeattieoh, I see.22:04
fabrice_spFTBFS without imagemagick, so it really needs it22:04
fabrice_spand the -lMagick is hidden behind `Magick-config --ldflags --libs` :-)22:05
sbeattieah, excellent, so it'll work.22:06
fabrice_spyep22:06
fabrice_spI'll check tomorrow morning the other ones22:06
fabrice_sp(including kmediafactory :-) )22:07
btmcjwatson: as a member of Ubuntu Package Archive Administrators, can you tell me if Bug 334065 needs anything else done?22:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 334065 in libgems-ruby "Please sync libgems-ruby 1.3.1-1 from debian experimental" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33406522:32
Laneybtm: jdstrand marked it Fix Released. You should ask him why22:33
Laney(that's why nobody did anything with it)22:33
btmjdstrand: Why did you mark Bug 334065 fix released? ;)22:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 334065 in libgems-ruby "Please sync libgems-ruby 1.3.1-1 from debian experimental" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33406522:33
cjwatsonbtm: Jamie ought to have added a comment, but Jamie is also an archive admin and therefore I assume he fulfilled the request22:34
cjwatsonmind you, apparently not22:34
Laneycjwatson: doesn't look like it was done22:34
Laneystrange22:34
cjwatsonlooks like a mistake; I've reopened the bug22:34
cjwatsonbtm: thanks for chasing that up, it'll be processed as part of the normal queue22:35
btmcjwatson / Laney: thanks, I wasn't sure if there was procedure I was missing somewhere along the way.22:35
cjwatsonI don't believe so22:36
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