[00:00] <mbana> does my .fonts.conf override this?
[00:00] <fta> asac, "found serial port (udev:  hal:GSM)"
[00:01] <asac> mbana: yes
[00:01] <asac> mbana: .fonts.conf is level 50
[00:01] <asac> the one i posted is 30
[00:01] <fta> followed by "ignoring due to lack of probed mobile broadband capabilties" (incl the typo)
[00:01] <asac> fta: yes. thats what i say
[00:02] <asac> now its not detected at all  iguess
[00:02] <fta> yep
[00:02] <asac> please bump --delay really high
[00:02] <asac> and reboot
[00:02] <asac> we know the proper works for you
[00:02] <asac> its just that some modems take loner than others to wake up
[00:02] <asac> i can use --delay 2000
[00:02] <asac> but not 1700
[00:02] <asac> but we already had modems with far higher values
[00:05] <fta> 3000->30000, same :(
[00:06] <mbana> asac: how long does it take to support 3.1?
[00:06] <mbana> what about the language packs?
[00:06] <asac> fta: reboot?
[00:06] <fta> asac, yes, i did
[00:06] <asac> fta: the probe doesnt happen anymore
[00:06] <asac> hmm
[00:06] <asac> fta: and manually running the probe command works
[00:06] <asac> or is that broken now too?
[00:06] <fta> how?
[00:07] <asac> e.g. /lib/udev/nm-modem-probe /dev/ttyUSB0
[00:07] <asac> not sure what devices you have
[00:07] <asac> mbana: we dont maintain lang packs for our "next" package atm
[00:07] <fta_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/136348/
[00:08] <asac> mbana: you can try to install the ones from upstream
[00:08] <asac> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.1b3/linux-i686/xpi/
[00:08] <asac> you need to change the version though i am sure
[00:08] <asac> maxVersion in the install.rdf in there
[00:09] <asac> our daily is ahead of b3
[00:09] <asac> fta: thats not the probe command ;)
[00:09] <asac> run /lib/udev/nm-modem-probe --verbose --export /dev/ttyUSB0
[00:09] <fta> lol, no, i just took me time to paste that url ;)
[00:09] <asac> lol
[00:09] <fta> you wanted the full logs
[00:10] <asac> thats after the boot with high udev delay?
[00:11] <asac> fta: given the commit you need at least to replug after probing USB1
[00:12] <fta_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/136351/
[00:12] <fta_> oh
[00:13] <asac> fta: SIM pin required
[00:13] <asac> ouch
[00:14] <asac> thats the "i need to boot windows" once effect?
[00:14] <fta_> no idea. i tried this sim in xp yesterday, it was fine
[00:15] <asac> fta: well. the prober doesnt use pins
[00:15] <asac> it doesnt expect to get asked for a pin at that stage
[00:16] <fta_> so, am i doomed?
[00:18] <asac> looking in code
[00:19] <asac> fta: how long does it take until you get that timed out thing?
[00:19] <asac> : modem_probe_caps(): timed out waiting for GCAP reply (idx -2, term_idx -1)
[00:19] <asac> and do you see +CME ERROR: SIM PIN required
[00:19] <asac> right before
[00:19] <asac> or does that get out a while before?
[00:20] <fta_> 2, maybe 3 secs
[00:22] <fta> asac, ^^
[00:24] <asac> fta: yeah
[00:24] <asac> can you see whether you get a \n
[00:25] <asac> or a \n\r ?
[00:25] <asac>  modem_wait_reply(): Got: 'AT+GCAP
[00:25] <asac> +CME ERROR: SIM PIN required
[00:25] <asac> for that line feed
[00:25] <asac> not really sure how to best capture that
[00:25] <asac> or if its converted on printf
[00:25] <asac> i dont hope so
[00:25] <asac> NM excepts \n\r
[00:25] <asac> which i hope is wrong for you ;)
[00:25] <fta_> L: modem_wait_reply(): Got: '^M$
[00:25] <fta_> ^BOOT:21081878,0,0,0,77^M$
[00:25] <fta_> T+GCAP^M^M$
[00:25] <fta_> +CME ERROR: SIM PIN required^M$
[00:25] <fta_> '$
[00:25] <fta_> L: modem_probe_caps(): timed out waiting for GCAP reply (idx -2, term_idx -1)$
[00:26] <fta_> ^M$ means \r\n
[00:26] <asac> hmm
[00:26] <asac> shouldnt matter anyway
[00:27] <asac> its a g_strsplit_set ( ... , "\n\r") ... so each is a delimiter
[00:28] <asac> fta: oh yeah
[00:28] <asac> fta: seems you really have a problem
[00:28] <asac> fta: i mean its fixed in latest 0.7
[00:29] <fta_> is it somewhere? i mean, ppa?
[00:32] <asac> fta: i can cherry pick all patches and upload that to ppa
[00:32] <asac> fta: or give you the patches that have been commit after the snapshot
[00:32] <asac> thats 7
[00:33] <fta_> would be nice to have a ppa, so others could try it too
[00:33] <asac> nah
[00:33] <asac> sure
[00:33] <asac> i mean
[00:33] <asac> but archive opens before most others will notice ;)
[00:35] <fta_> can't you do a nm-daily ? or something similar
[00:39] <asac> yes i think that could be done. problem is that there are two branches to provide
[00:39] <asac> trunk and 0.7
[00:39] <asac> so yeah
[00:39] <asac> its uploaded
[00:39] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive
[00:41] <asac> network-manager - 0.7.1~rc3.1.git4cf2da146-0ubuntu1.nm1
[00:41] <asac> fta: ^^
[00:42] <asac> also i dont think its smart to start yet another team right now
[00:42] <fta_> asac, could I use this ppa on top of everything? i should i just gzet this deb?
[00:42] <asac> fta_: its safe
[00:43] <asac> fta_: i dont put anything experimental there
[00:43] <asac> fta_: except intentional
[00:43] <asac> currently there shouldnt be anything newer thatn NM
[00:43] <asac> its mostly for backports
[00:43] <asac> and getting bug triage feedback for jaunty maybe
[00:47] <asac> ok i guess the build will finish soon ;)
[00:47] <asac> builders grabbed them instantly
[00:47] <asac> night seems to be calm time
[00:48] <fta_> yep, 19h-22h (our time) is the busy slot
[00:48] <asac> lpia was fasted
[00:48] <asac> followed by amd64
[00:48] <asac> now waiting for i386 ;)
[00:49] <asac> and then for cronjob ;)(
[00:49] <asac> but i think one run is in 3 minutes ;)
[00:50] <asac> fta_: so how about building nightlies at end of CA day?
[00:50] <asac> should be about now or maybe in 2 hours
[00:50] <asac> hurry i386
[00:50] <asac> you will miss the run
[00:51] <fta_> did that before, ~4am, but the thing is, noone fixed the errors, so i ended up fixing that after work, pushing fixes near the end of the cycle
[00:52] <fta_> now, it's at 7pm, so i see errors on the flow
[00:54] <asac> yeah. i should feel more reponsible for build errors ;)
[00:54] <asac> but you are always really quick ;)
[00:55] <fta_> still waiting for you for prism ;)
[00:58] <asac> at least the builders are ready ;)
[00:58] <asac> so yeah. now the prober will fall back to ATI for you
[00:59] <asac> because you get the sim error early
[00:59] <asac> that will make the prober succeed
[00:59] <fta_> ati?
[00:59] <asac> thats the theory
[00:59] <asac> verbose ("GCAP failed, trying ATI...");
[00:59] <asac> thats a AT command
[01:00] <asac> GCAP is for asking for capabilities
[01:00] <asac> ATI is something else that also includes the important bits
[01:00] <asac> on some modems
[01:01] <asac> also it doesnt probe your serial port 1  anymore
[01:01] <asac> which should remove a lot of damage
[01:01] <asac> fta_: ok packages are there
[01:03] <fta> trying
[01:04] <asac> hmm ... suddenly my net to ppa got stuck
[01:06] <fta> same
[01:06] <asac> seems archive.ubuntu is bogus
[01:06]  * asac switched to good old ubuntu.intergenia.de :)
[01:07] <asac> yeah ... ppa works ... just archive is down
[01:08] <asac> fta_nano: so prober works?
[01:08] <fta_nano> i mean, same as before http://paste.ubuntu.com/136377/
[01:08] <asac> ;)
[01:08] <asac> fta_nano: hmm ... manually it really should be different
[01:09] <fta_nano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/136379/
[01:10] <asac> fta_nano: yeah thats good
[01:10] <asac> fta_nano: so now bump the delay and reboot
[01:15] <fta> asac, done that, nada
[01:18] <fta_nano> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/136382/
[01:19] <asac> thats bad
[01:19] <asac> so this probably means its a udev bug
[01:19] <asac> do you see anything in the udev log?
[01:19] <asac>  /var/log/udev
[01:19] <asac> hmm ... maybe its too unverbose
[01:22] <fta_nano> the format is strange, i see huawei entries in there
[01:24] <asac> fta_nano: look for MODEM_PROBED
[01:25] <fta_nano> none
[01:26] <fta_nano> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/136385/
[01:26] <asac> devadm info --query=env --path=/sys/class/net/ttyUSB0
[01:27] <asac> udevadm
[01:27] <fta_nano> no tty* in net/
[01:29] <asac> fta_nano: s/net/tty/
[01:29] <asac> i think
[01:29] <asac> i dont have my modem plugged in now
[01:31] <asac> fta_nano: did you change the right line for delay?
[01:31] <fta_nano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/136390/
[01:31] <asac> there are two ;)
[01:31] <fta_nano> i changed both
[01:31] <asac> ok
[01:31] <asac> fta_nano: s/env/all/
[01:31] <asac> in the query=..
[01:33] <fta_nano> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/136391/
[01:34] <asac> fta_nano: looks a bit like your rule isnt run at all
[01:34] <asac> not sure how that can happen
[01:34] <mbana> as
[01:35] <mbana> asac: so, what font was being used on your machine for that site i gave
[01:35] <asac> mbana: droid sans now ;)
[01:35] <asac> before it was the ttf-...?
[01:35] <asac> ttf-liberation
[01:35] <mbana> you're not selecting 'let sites chose fonts' are you?
[01:36] <asac> yes. if i dont allow that it uses bitstream/dejavu
[01:36] <asac> but i allwed them to do it
[01:36] <mbana> for that site i gave?
[01:36] <mbana> can you verify that please
[01:36] <asac> i allowed it for it
[01:36] <asac> yes
[01:36] <mbana> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[01:37] <mbana> so what is mine using?
[01:37] <asac> yes that looks like droid sans now
[01:37] <asac> mbana: you used arial from MS
[01:37] <asac> i donthave that because i dont have windows
[01:37] <asac> and i didnt import fonts
[01:37] <asac> at leaset i think you used arial.ttf
[01:37] <asac> thats what fc-match Arial gave you in the beginning
[01:38] <mbana> but even if i remove Arial it needs up using Nimbus
[01:38] <fta> asac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=9171
[01:38] <asac> mbana: because you have uninstalled ttf-liberation
[01:38] <asac> ?
[01:39] <asac> fta: could you ask for a quick explanation why chromium needs it?
[01:39] <asac> i think i need to create an account at some point
[01:40] <mbana> ok i'll remove arial and use liberation and see what happens
[01:40] <asac> yeah ... check with fc-match Arial
[01:40] <asac> that you use it
[01:41] <mbana> fc-cache refrehses cache right?
[01:41] <asac> fta: i have to go now. if nothing helps i can make you a script you can use to spoof the modem probing ... so you can at lesat see if the rest works ;)
[01:41] <asac> mbana: i think so
[01:41] <asac> ok i have to sleep now .. cu tomorrow
[01:41] <mbana> when do you come back online
[01:42] <mbana> ok i see
[01:42] <mbana> thanks alot
[01:42] <asac> not sure ... 6.5 h
[01:42] <mbana> a lot
[01:42] <asac> or 7
[01:50] <fta> night, thanks for your help
[10:26] <asac> ok so its confirmed. motu folks will just upload stuff even if you are maintainer
[11:00] <gnomefreak> can someone please add gpg --recv 4E5E17B5 && gpg --export -a 4E5E17B5 | sudo apt-key add -  to https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa I'm guessing but looks like it has to be fta
[11:11] <BUGabundo> good morning
[11:11] <BUGabundo> asac: can you take a look please
[11:11] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxnm/+bug/347571
[11:25] <asac> fta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/136657/
[11:25] <asac> BUGabundo: yes. whats the problem with lxnm?
[11:26] <BUGabundo> it seem that user ended up with nm-applet
[11:26] <BUGabundo> after upgrading the lxnm from universe
[11:27] <asac> "without" ?
[11:27] <fta2> asac, i have 2 SIMs, yesterday, i just tried with 1, but this w-e, i tried the two
[11:27] <asac> or "with"
[11:28] <asac> fta2: this weekend the prober was broken as we found
[11:28] <asac> e.g. didnt honour +CME: ERROR
[11:28] <asac> fta2: so ... we need the probe log as described in paste
[11:28] <fta2> then why did he asked how many sims i have?
[11:28] <fta2> -ed
[11:28] <asac> fta2: he didnt ask how many sims you have. he asked how many sim contacts you have
[11:28] <fta2> oh, none then
[11:29] <asac> e.g. if you save a name + phone number in a phone on it
[11:29] <asac> fta2: yeah. thats what i answered. he wanted that info anyway
[11:29] <asac> fta2: so now do the udev control thing
[11:29] <asac> fta2: as well as the probe logging
[11:29] <BUGabundo> asac: without
[11:29] <asac> in the .rules files
[11:29] <asac> BUGabundo: thats normal then
[11:29] <asac> if folks install lxnm
[11:29] <asac> it removes nm
[11:29] <asac> because its something different
[11:29] <fta2> asac, i don't have my netbook here, this evening :P
[11:30] <asac> sure
[11:30] <asac> fta2: also delay greater than 5 isnt good ;) as he said
[11:30] <asac> so use 4 ;)(
[11:30] <fta2> i used 30 ;)
[11:30] <BUGabundo> asac: the user says he lost the ability to control network
[11:30] <asac> yeah. but he says that would confuse hal
[11:30] <asac> fta2: which didnt look like your problem ;)
[11:31] <asac> fta2: so add --log /tmp/probe.log --verbose --quiet ... to the .rules command
[11:31] <asac> and  udevadm control --log_priority=debug
[11:31] <fta2> no, nothing waited for 30 sec anyway
[11:31] <asac> fta2: thats happening under the hood
[11:31] <asac> udev runs that command when the device gets plugged
[11:31] <asac> or on boot
[11:31] <asac> and it doesnt block
[11:32] <fta2> i mean, nothing showed up in the logs past the line i gave you, even after 30 sec, or 15 min
[11:32] <fta2> lineS
[11:33] <asac> fta2: udev doesnt say anything in the log
[11:37] <gnomefreak> !info sunbird hardy-backports
[11:38] <gnomefreak> !info sunbird intrepid
[12:26] <gnomefreak> ko reboot
[12:27] <asac> BUGabundo: yes. thats the users faul then
[12:28] <asac> i mean in this case that is really true ;)
[12:28] <BUGabundo> ok
[12:28] <BUGabundo> I told him to NOT let remove any packages
[12:29] <BUGabundo> still it's a bad precedence in the packages
[13:01] <Jazzva> asac: the list_plugin patch should be done sone. I haven't worked with pointers in a while, so I'm getting some errors with that :). I'll figure it out tonight, have to go to school now.
[13:02] <Jazzva> asac: that's the patch for nspluginwrapper
[13:46] <asac> great
[13:46] <asac> hmmmm ... gone
[14:09] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: dod you talk to ikonia YET?
[14:09] <gnomefreak> danm caps
[14:09] <BUGabundo> nope
[14:09] <BUGabundo> been busy
[14:09] <BUGabundo> and way most morning
[14:09] <BUGabundo> waiting for tomorrow as requested
[14:09] <gnomefreak> ah
[14:09] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: did he accept 24h?
[14:10] <BUGabundo> don't want to be feeding from his hand, for the "favour"!
[14:10] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: yep i think so i will ping him now and see what he says
[14:11] <BUGabundo> no no
[14:11] <BUGabundo> let it be
[14:11] <BUGabundo> I can hold 24h
[14:11]  * BUGabundo grrrr misses +1 daily fix...
[14:14] <gnomefreak> asac: thunderbird is pissing me off again. It seems that the filters are not working on single emails. if using digest for ML filters work i think (wouldnt know) changing them to digest i than dont get any emails from the 2 lists. but using "to" or "cc" or "to cc" still they dont apply
[14:14] <asac> gnomefreak: hmm
[14:14] <gnomefreak> using cc or to or both for ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com fails to work
[14:15] <asac> gnomefreak: what do you get for find ~/.*thunderbir*/ | grep -i filter
[14:15] <gnomefreak> same with devel list. those are the only 2 that i cant set to digest
[14:16] <gnomefreak> asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/636351
[14:16] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: that's why I love kmail.... its only serious bug: crash on delete (large) threads!
[14:16] <gnomefreak> and the damn fonts got really damn small from last update this morning but i can fix that
[14:16] <asac> gnomefreak: so which account is the account that has problems?
[14:16] <BUGabundo> bug 311521
[14:16] <asac> post the .dat from that account please
[14:16] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: thats an awfull bad bug
[14:17] <BUGabundo> eheh
[14:17] <BUGabundo> yeah
[14:17] <BUGabundo> been here for 6 months
[14:17] <BUGabundo> since kde4.1
[14:17] <BUGabundo> fixed on trunk
[14:17] <BUGabundo> but hasn't been ported!
[14:17] <asac> kmail was always crashy and fiddle-ware for me
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[14:17] <BUGabundo> janathan said he did, but he failed it some how
[14:17] <gnomefreak> asac: my gnomefreak@gmail account thats the one they get sent to. using new profile no extensions and it doesnt work still
[14:17] <gnomefreak> k will do
[14:18] <BUGabundo> guess I should poke him to it
[14:18] <asac> gnomefreak: look at the paste you gave me
[14:18] <asac> gnomefreak: each account has a Filter.dat
[14:18] <asac> or something
[14:18] <asac> spot the one for the account that has issues
[14:18] <asac> and poaste that .dat
[14:18] <gnomefreak> ok
[14:22] <gnomefreak> are you kidding?
[14:22] <gnomefreak> 2 frigging lines for .mozilla-thunderbird/q1vfnf2t.default/Mail/pop.gmail.co
[14:22] <gnomefreak> m
[14:23] <gnomefreak> msgFilterRules.dat
[14:24] <gnomefreak> asac: here is that output http://pastebin.mozilla.org/636352 im looking for more
[14:25] <gnomefreak> asac: hree is 2 i found that might help http://pastebin.mozilla.org/636353 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/636355
[14:26] <gnomefreak> that is wrong email i think
[14:26] <gnomefreak> yep it is
[14:30] <gnomefreak> i cant find my email account :(
[14:31] <gnomefreak> asac: coming right up
[14:31] <gnomefreak> asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/636356
[14:31] <gnomefreak> i hope you can tell what each one is
[14:35] <gnomefreak> asac: one more that might help more than last
[14:35] <gnomefreak> this is in plain english http://pastebin.mozilla.org/636357
[14:37] <gnomefreak> thats odd i got rid of one of those
[14:48] <gnomefreak> bug 99352
[14:48] <BUGabundo> that's not a firefox bug
[14:48] <BUGabundo> its a java applet one
[14:49] <gnomefreak> i know im waiting for a reply to my question first adn i marked it invalid before anyway
[14:49] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: it depends on what version package he installed
[14:51] <gnomefreak> example if firefox ubufox tells him to install something and he has it already it would be a ubufox bug most likley
[14:53] <BUGabundo> ah
[14:59] <gnomefreak> that PPA older .debs idea has some set backs read my email to the list :)
[14:59] <BUGabundo> reading
[14:59] <BUGabundo> actually POPing
[14:59] <BUGabundo> net is slow
[14:59] <BUGabundo> I'm rsyning a bunch of daily images
[14:59] <BUGabundo> DVD & CDs 32 & 64 bits
[14:59] <BUGabundo> to prepare for beta
[15:00] <BUGabundo> and my next class!!
[15:00] <BUGabundo> eheh... gona use Beta...
[15:00] <BUGabundo> hope it goes ok, or my students will have a crash course on Filing Bugs
[15:02] <BUGabundo> humm gnomefreak got nothing!
[15:02] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: it may take a while. I also commented on bug 316858
[15:02] <BUGabundo> let me get there
[15:03] <BUGabundo> 20 bugmails in the last 5 min
[15:03] <BUGabundo> hey asac so first Koala fix ?
[15:03] <BUGabundo> eheh
[15:03] <BUGabundo> OOo font size?
[15:05] <BUGabundo> can you guys reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346943
[15:05] <BUGabundo> ?
[15:07] <asac> BUGabundo: metacity or compiz?
[15:07] <BUGabundo> compiz
[15:07] <asac> ah blind me
[15:07] <asac> i think it remembers where it was opened last time
[15:07] <asac> or where it was closed last time
[15:07] <BUGabundo> ah??
[15:07] <asac> maybe a session manager issue
[15:07] <BUGabundo> really?
[15:08] <asac> i get that for rhythmbox at least
[15:08] <asac> it always opens here on workspace 4
[15:08] <asac> i never found time to look
[15:09] <BUGabundo> ehe
[15:11] <BUGabundo> asac: can you comment that on the bug?
[15:20] <gnomefreak> asac: to run autoconf2.13 i dont need to run pop -a or anything else right, just run autoconf2.13 and copy patches dir to our debian dir right?
[15:20] <gnomefreak> i havng issues remembering :(
[15:21]  * gnomefreak doesnt use compiz here since i run builds i dont normally have enough resoures to use it
[15:43] <gnomefreak> it seems i do have to go through all that since mozilla dir doesnt contain patches dir
[15:49] <asac> gnomefreak: you need to push -a
[15:49] <asac> and if the last patch is a autoconf patch
[15:49] <asac> run autoconf2.13
[15:49] <asac> and then refresh the patch
[15:49] <asac> quilt refresh --diffstat -U8 --no-timestamps
[15:50] <gnomefreak> ok see the fsh patch is failing and from what i can tell sutoconf should update that at least it better
[15:50] <gnomefreak> that should be fairly easy enough
[15:54] <asac> gnomefreak: no. fsh patch is something else
[15:54] <asac> if it fails you need to push -f it
[15:55] <gnomefreak> its config/Make.in (dont remember the first part
[15:55] <asac> and the look at the .rej files
[15:55] <asac> and manually readd the rejected bits
[15:55] <asac> then run quilte refresh ...
[15:56] <gnomefreak> if that is not an autoconf than why did it work on Jaunty and fail on both hardy and intrepid (same sources adn branch)
[15:57] <gnomefreak> same source and im sure files didnt change all that much
[15:58] <asac> same sources and same branch should fail nowhere
[15:58]  * BUGabundo #ubuntu-kernel
[16:00] <gnomefreak> asac: i know thats what i thought too. but all i did was cp the tarball over to each dir and grabbed branch and built failed on fsh patch in intrepid and hardy if you give me a minute i might beable to find out the exact issue on that one
[16:55] <fta2> asac, what is that code for search plugins? an id for canonical?
[17:12] <asac> fta: an attempt
[17:12] <asac> i doubt it works
[17:13] <asac> especially because i used my own code :-P
[17:13] <asac> lol
[17:14] <BUGabundo> if you guys feel curios http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bugabundo
[17:14] <BUGabundo> asac: face 2 face!
[17:14] <BUGabundo> eheh
[17:18] <BUGabundo> bah
[17:18] <BUGabundo> FF 3.6 uses ALSA to record Sound?
[17:19] <BUGabundo> dtchen: no wonder it doesn't work with Pulse audio
[17:52] <BUGabundo> dtchen: ping!
[17:53] <asac> BUGabundo: ffox doesnt use any sound on its own
[17:53] <asac> just flash or other extensions
[17:54] <Mook_sb> there _is_ nsISound for the find-not-found fart, but that's esd or something and it's a crappy interface nobody wants to use
[17:54] <gnomefreak> bug 330337
[17:54] <asac> Mook_sb: you sure its used by ffox?
[17:54] <gnomefreak> damnit
[17:54] <asac> in xulrunner its kindof supported
[17:54] <gnomefreak> bug 328307
[17:54] <asac> thought it wasnt used by browser
[17:55] <asac> gnomefreak: thats a wishlist bug and probably has an upstream bug already somewhere
[17:55] <Mook_sb> asac: hmm, I guess it's just system beep now, maybe it's not actually used by browser anymore
[17:55] <gnomefreak> asac: i saw a dup i have 40 tabs give or take open atm
[17:56] <gnomefreak> asac: if you happen to run across it let me know
[17:56] <BUGabundo> asac: so its flash using alsa?
[17:56] <BUGabundo> wasn't that fixed?
[17:56] <asac> BUGabundo: yes.
[17:56] <asac> BUGabundo: it never changed
[17:56] <asac> BUGabundo:  only thing tht ws changed was to use parts of alsa that work with the pulse plugin for als
[17:56] <BUGabundo> bah
[17:56] <asac> a
[17:56] <asac> so indirectly it also can speak pulse through alsa now
[17:57] <BUGabundo> but it seems the that site
[17:57] <asac> obviously hackish ;) ... but thats how things go
[17:57] <BUGabundo> or it flash can't capture my mic
[17:57] <BUGabundo> from pavcontrol
[17:57] <BUGabundo> I see it using alsa
[17:57] <asac> i dont know about mic in flash
[17:57] <BUGabundo> yeah
[17:57] <asac> i would hope its not supported
[17:57] <BUGabundo> that's why I pinged dtchen
[17:57] <asac> nobody should use that stuff ;)
[17:58] <BUGabundo> it used to be
[17:58] <BUGabundo> I already used it
[17:59] <Mook_sb> there we go, if you set accessibility.typeaheadfind.soundURL in about:config to a wave file url, it might play something other than a beep :p
[18:02] <gnomefreak> asac: ubufox bug that tells you you need to restart and keeps telling you. do you have that bug handy
[18:09] <asac> gnomefreak: i dont have it handy but you can find it easily in firefox awesome bar
[18:09] <asac> gnomefreak: bug 289365
[18:09] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks
[18:10] <asac> so its 270303
[18:14] <gnomefreak> asac: yep i saved it in my important bugs folder :)
[18:16] <gnomefreak> bug 317596
[18:33] <gnomefreak> asac: does ubufox link to the release notes page in help in FF menus? or is that firefox? they should show mozilla release nots not ours
[18:40] <asac> gnomefreak: i think ubufox ships its own link
[18:40] <asac> we don replace the upstream menu entry
[18:40] <gnomefreak> oh so its intended?
[18:57] <gnomefreak> !codecs
[19:26] <mbana> asac: hi, do you know if OO on interpid follows .fonts.conf, i get the worst hinting from taht
[19:26] <mbana> openopffice
[19:31] <asac> mbana: i am looking into the bug ... yes.
[19:32] <asac> bug 271283
[19:32] <asac> i found that it uses freetype backend for cairo
[19:32] <asac> not yet sure why it ends up using something like that
[19:33] <asac> try pango-view with --backend=ft2
[19:33] <asac> mbana: ^^
[19:33] <asac> thats what ooo does
[19:33] <mbana> pango-view: Available --backend options are: cairo/xft/ft2/x
[19:33] <mbana> ops
[19:34] <mbana> pango-view: When running ImageMagick 'display' command: Failed to execute child process "display" (No such file or directory)
[19:34] <mbana> .
[19:34] <mbana> never mind
[19:34] <mbana> it's not important
[19:34] <mbana> i just wanted to point iit out
[19:34] <mbana> i didn't much such an issue with fedora, thought the firefox issue seems to persist across distros
[19:35] <gnomefreak> upstream mozilla bugtracker and Mozilla Foundation are not the same?n
[19:42] <fta> asac, 12:21 < dcbw1> asac: you may also want to add "--log /tmp/probe.log --verbose --quiet" to the udev rule for now
[19:43] <fta> asac, --verbose --quiet ???
[19:47] <[reed]> gnomefreak: what do you mean?
[19:48] <gnomefreak> [reed]: i had filed a bug on using official icon and they sent me to Gervase Markham
[19:48] <[reed]> what bug #?
[19:48] <gnomefreak> hes from Mozilla Foundation
[19:48] <[reed]> yes...
[19:48] <[reed]> what bug and what logo?
[19:49] <gnomefreak> mozilla 484956 im already building with the --enable....
[19:49] <gnomefreak> wwas hoping they would do it ;)
[19:50] <gnomefreak> how the hell did cpp-4.2 g++-4.2 gcc-4.2 get removed?
[19:50] <gnomefreak> thats not a good thing
[19:51] <[reed]> yeah, so, that would be gerv's job
[19:52] <gnomefreak> [reed]: im assuming they wanted me to ask if it is ok? im assuming its ok since we use all other official logos but im testing it now to see if any files need to be changed outside of what i did
[19:52] <asac> fta: yeah. dont ask my why both ;)
[19:52] <[reed]> yes, they want you to ask
[19:52] <[reed]> and I recommend you do ask
[19:52] <asac> fta: you can try on the command line and see if something gets logged ;)
[19:53] <gnomefreak> ok ill email him if this works than build it right when i hear back
[19:53] <asac> gnomefreak: dont know what your bug was about
[19:54] <gnomefreak> hold that thought something bad happened in bugtracker
[19:55] <gnomefreak> [reed]: it was you :)
[19:55] <gnomefreak> or not
[19:55] <[reed]> ?
[19:55] <asac> huh?
[19:55] <gnomefreak> Someone else has made changes to bug 484956  at the same time you were trying to. The changes made were:  it said you were. I guess you just added gerv?
[19:56] <asac> gnomefreak: can you plesae not discuss the sunbird branding upstream ;)
[19:56] <[reed]> yes, I cc'd gerv and myself
[19:56] <asac> if you want to clarify branding please go through me
[19:56] <asac> that will just cause confusion on mozilla side ;)
[19:56] <gnomefreak> i see that
[19:56] <asac> thanks.
[19:56] <asac> its really a sensible topic ;)
[19:57] <asac> gnomefreak: so can you explain to me what the problem was?
[19:58] <gnomefreak> asac: ill let you iknow as soon as i find out. should have been easy config flag in rules but i think its not that
[19:58] <asac> gnomefreak: well. so whats the problem now?
[19:58] <asac> what symptoms? why did you file the bug?
[19:58] <gnomefreak> rules doesnt like it
[19:58] <gnomefreak> i think
[19:59] <asac> gnomefreak: there must be a reason you filed the bug ;)
[19:59] <gnomefreak> yep that would be it i think its just in wrong place
[19:59] <asac> gnomefreak: i dont know what you are talking about.
[20:00] <gnomefreak> asac: dont worry ill keep you up to date, you werent able to do it not sure why so i have time or had
[20:01] <asac> gnomefreak: i didnt even know there was an issue ;)
[20:01] <gnomefreak> asac: yeah i asked you a while back and i thought you tried it.
[20:01] <asac> gnomefreak: tried what ;)?
[20:02] <asac> to use official branding?
[20:02] <gnomefreak> asac: yes
[20:02] <gnomefreak> there has been a bug on it since 0.7 IIRC
[20:02] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah its just a configure flag
[20:02] <asac> also you need to ensure that all the icons are properly installed
[20:03] <asac> its definitly not a mozilla issue. at least based on the current data we have
[20:03] <gnomefreak> they build it with official logo for MAC and windows why the should we have to do it?
[20:05] <asac> gnomefreak: its a build flag
[20:05] <asac> they set it on their builders
[20:05] <asac> we have to set it on ours
[20:05] <asac> if we want to use it
[20:05] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[20:05] <asac> thats done in debian/rules for us
[20:05] <asac> they do it in some other build script
[20:07] <gnomefreak> yeah i think i know why rules errored at me i left off a \
[20:10] <gnomefreak> oh your gonna love that bug :(
[20:10] <fta> asac, do you know if https://wiki.ubuntu.com/apt-sync has ever been considered?
[20:10] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/apt-sync
[20:12] <asac> fta: so xul hangs the retracers ;)
[20:12] <fta> ?
[20:12] <asac> fta: the retracers dont work and xul is causing it ;)
[20:13] <asac> xulrunner-1.9.1 --gre-version ;)
[20:13] <fta> why? jemalloc?
[20:13] <asac> yeah
[20:13] <fta> wasn't that fixed?
[20:13] <asac> nasty hacks always come back ;)
[20:14] <asac> i think fakeroot was fixed
[20:14] <asac> so it seems its fakechroot now :(
[20:14] <fta> DEBIAN_XUL_VER          := $(shell MALLOC_OPTIONS=O xulrunner-1.9.1 --gre-version)
[20:15] <asac> does that work?
[20:15] <fta> that was the workaround for chroot
[20:15] <fta> it's still in the branch btw
[20:15] <asac> let me check
[20:16] <asac> darn this chroot kills me :)
[20:16] <asac> now it hangs
[20:29] <gnomefreak> ok its building going for dinner
[20:30] <asac> enjoy
[20:49] <fta> asac, --log /tmp/probe.log --verbose --quiet did nothing, /tmp/probe.log was not even created
[21:02] <fta> asac, --delay 4000 => invalid delay: 4000
[21:03] <fta> that's manually
[21:24] <fta> asac, bingo
[21:24] <fta> Mar 24 22:15:38 nano udevd-event[3597]: IMPORT 'nm-modem-probe --vid 0x --pid 0x --usb-interface 00 --driver option --delay 3000 --log /tmp/probe-other.log --verbose --quiet --export /dev/.tmp-char-188:0' /lib/udev/rules.d/77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules:8
[21:24] <fta> Mar 24 22:15:38 nano udevd-event[3597]: 'nm-modem-probe --vid 0x --pid 0x --usb-interface 00 --driver option --delay 3000 --log /tmp/probe-other.log --verbose --quiet --export /dev/.tmp-char-188:0'
[21:24] <fta> Mar 24 22:15:38 nano udevd-event[3597]: '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe' (stderr) 'Could not parse USB Vendor ID '0x''
[21:24] <fta> Mar 24 22:15:38 nano udevd-event[3597]: '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe' returned with status 1
[21:32] <fta> [reed], are you moz guys cleaning up your test suite daily or what?
[21:37] <[reed]> fta: what do you mean? we have people working on the test suite all the time
[21:38] <fta> in the last few days, my -daily builds failed because files are disappearing from my -testsuite pacakge, one at a time
[21:38] <fta> dh_install: xulrunner-1.9.2-testsuite missing files (debian/tmp/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9*/nsIFileTest), aborting
[21:38] <fta> this is today
[21:40] <fta> [reed], btw, what are those huge merges? http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml
[21:41] <[reed]> tracemonkey
[21:42] <fta> each time i encounter one of those, i get a date in the past, breaking my dailies
[21:42] <fta> Rejected:
[21:42] <fta> firefox-3.5_3.5~b4~hg20090215r23894+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 3.5~b4~hg20090215r23894+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 <= 3.5~b4~hg20090322r23870+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1
[21:43] <fta> i'm pulling the date + revid from http://hg.mozilla.org/index.cgi/mozilla-central/log
[21:43] <fta> but http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml doesn't have revids :(
[21:43] <fta> i'm screwed
[22:12] <asac> fta: can you paste that and the probe log?
[22:16] <asac>  
[22:16] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/137051/
[22:21] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/137054/
[22:21] <fta> asac, ^^
[22:23] <asac> fta: the probe log is not the log written by udev rules?
[22:23] <fta> no
 Mar 24 22:15:38 nano udevd-event[3597]: '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe' (stderr) 'Could not parse USB Vendor ID '0x''
[22:24] <fta> i guess it's completely ignored because of that
 Mar 24 22:15:38 nano udevd-event[3597]: IMPORT 'nm-modem-probe --vid 0x --pid 0x --usb-interface 00 --driver option --delay 3000 --log /tmp/probe-other.log --verbose --quiet --export /dev/.tmp-char-188:0' /lib/udev/rules.d/77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules:8
[22:24] <fta> --vid 0x --pid 0x --usb-interface 00 --driver option looks weird
[22:27] <asac> fta: yeah
[22:28] <fta> the 1st paste comes from udev itself, i put it in debug mode
[22:29] <asac> yes
[22:29] <asac> i know
[22:29] <asac> probably a udev bug
[22:30] <fta> are you sure the syntax of 77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules is right?
[22:30] <asac> pretty much
[22:30] <asac> let me put it in debug
[22:33] <fta> should it pass the variable through $env{} or something?
[22:37] <asac> hmm
[22:37] <asac> fta: unfortuantely not
[22:37] <fta> something like this:
[22:37] <fta> KERNEL=="st*[0-9]|nst*[0-9]", ENV{ID_SERIAL}!="?*", SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi", KERNELS=="[0-9]*:*[0-9]", ENV{BSG_DEV}="$root/bsg/$id"
[22:37] <fta> KERNEL=="st*[0-9]|nst*[0-9]", ENV{ID_SERIAL}!="?*", WAIT_FOR="$env{BSG_DEV}", IMPORT="scsi_id --whitelisted --export --device=$env{BSG_DEV}", ENV{ID_BUS}="scsi"
[22:37] <asac> i thought we couldnt access it in env... but dan said we could access it differently and he came up with this
[22:38] <fta> BSG_DEV is passed from env
[22:38] <asac> fta: yes ... yesterday i gave you a udevadm info --query=env ...
[22:38] <asac> that is what you can see there
[22:38] <asac> but stff like vendorID and so on are done differently
[22:39] <fta> i don't really know, but the current syntax is obviously wrong
[22:40] <asac> Well, this confirms the vendor and product id (see ATTR{idVendor} and ATTR{idProduct}). It also shows us the product serial number (ATTR{serial}=="CN89P3G0TC05BR"). Useful things for manipulating udev with.
[22:40] <asac> http://lifelin.blogspot.com/
[22:40] <asac> thtsa one place where its referencesd like it
[22:43] <asac> fta: use_interface number works for me
[22:51] <fta> asac, what do you expect me to do then?
[22:55] <fta> 36295 firefox-3.5                       48     1     0    47     0 (Unknown)
[22:55] <fta> 40059 firefox-3.6                       27     2     0    25     0 (Unknown)