/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/03/25/#kubuntu.txt

demoncinex: can you open this page00:00
demonhttp://home.arcor.de/mdoege/lcars/lcars441.htm00:00
demoni cant :(00:00
demoni am missing some plugins00:00
cinexyep00:00
cinexu want that as your bootsplash>00:01
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demoncinex: dunno00:02
demon:D00:02
demoni found it whe  i type LCARS for kde00:02
demon:D00:02
cinexmeh my splash is broke lol00:07
demonlol00:08
demonhow come00:08
demontry this cinex00:08
demonit works00:09
demon:D00:09
demonyeahhhhhhhhhh00:09
cinexdemon: how did u do it ?00:16
demoncinex: take it00:16
demonits the program i was searching for00:16
demon:D00:16
cinexstartupmanager?00:17
demonyes00:17
demon:D00:17
demonbut i cant find .so themes00:17
demoncinex: like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY33fUUQPOM00:20
demoni want this00:20
cinexdemon: startupmanager wants a tar.gz file not a .so00:21
demonnope00:22
cinexbeats the crap out of me. i gotta meet the wife... I'm going to figure it out tommorow00:22
demonlol00:23
demoncheers mate00:23
cinexdemon: nice lol00:30
rafoholas00:33
rafoalguien de argentina?00:33
rafojujuy?00:33
rafoholas00:34
rafoholas00:34
rafohay alguien?00:34
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walrusLTEllo :)00:46
legoGood evening everyone.00:47
legoIs anyone around at this time?00:47
walrusLTCan i get help with screen resolution? Friend gave me Kubuntu8.10 CD, and i have just installed it00:47
walrusLTBut my screen resolutin is 800/600 :/ And i dont like it. How can i change it to 1280x1024?00:47
legoIs there any way to restore my Linux without re-installing it?00:48
walrusLTrestore?00:48
legoI had Linux dual-boot with XP. I had to fix XP boot and now no way to get into Linux.00:49
walrusLTTry to re-install it00:49
walrusLTlawl :D00:49
legoI was hoping to get it back without going through the hassles of a re-install.00:49
walrusLTWhy you dont like to re-install it? :?00:50
walrusLTIt's just few minutes00:50
legoLinux takes a while to install, just like XP.00:50
vrajaHI00:50
walrusLTHi00:50
walrusLTCan you help me with resolution?/00:50
vraja im new in linux00:50
walrusLTOhhh00:50
vrajai need  help00:51
legoI might be able to help with resolution.00:51
legoAre you running off CD or PC?00:51
vrajawho  to make sign arroba ?00:51
walrusLTI have just installed kubuntu because i fu**'ed up date and time settings in XP so i needed to activate it :D00:51
vrajawath?00:52
walrusLTCD/PC? Hmmm, i have installed it, and the apperiantly it shows me desktop, but i hear that CD is working00:52
legoGo into setting in Kubuntu and use root access to tell Linux what monitor you are using.00:52
vrajaok00:52
legoControl Center00:52
vrajayea00:52
legoI could reboot to Kubuntu here and tell you exactly what to do, if you like.00:53
legoRight now running PCLOS00:53
vrajahow  to make arroba ?00:53
vrajai need make  arroba please help00:54
legoI know nothing of that.00:54
vrajaarroba   in ubuntu00:54
legoI was talking to the person about the resolution problem.00:55
walrusLTWhere to go?00:55
legoI always have a problem when I install any Linux.  I have to find a way to fix it by telling hat monitor I have.00:55
legoEasy in Kubuntu.00:55
walrusLTSystem Settings? Where now?00:56
walrusLT:00:56
legoDid you fix it walrusLT?00:56
walrusLTNo00:56
walrusLTI dunno what to do :/00:56
legoLet me reboot so I can give you direct directions, okay?00:56
legoBe right back.00:56
walrusLTk00:56
walrusLTHey00:57
walrusLTIs there any remote-controll?00:57
walrusLTlawl?00:57
walrusLTshit00:57
dragonmasterwalrusLT?00:59
walrusLTYes00:59
dragonmasterClick on System Settings.01:00
walrusLTyed01:00
walrusLTyes01:00
dragonmasterDo you see Monitor and Display?01:00
walrusLTYeah01:00
dragonmasterClick on that.01:00
dragonmasterYou will need administrator rights.01:00
walrusLTThere is no 1280x1024 or something like that01:00
walrusLTmaximum is 800x60001:01
dragonmasterI understand.01:01
walrusLTokey01:01
dragonmasterDo you see below "administrator mode"?01:01
walrusLTno01:02
walrusLT:D01:02
dragonmasterPress alt+M01:02
dragonmasterit should ask for the root password.01:02
walrusLTDoes not work01:03
dragonmasterHold the alt key down and press M.  That doesn't do anything?01:04
dragonmasterCan you log out and get in as root?01:05
stdinroot account is disabled by default, use kdesudo to elevate permissions: kdesudo systemsettings01:06
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walrusLTSomthing tells me that i have not finished installation :01:08
walrusLT:/01:08
dragonmasterwalrusLT, what you need to do is get root access and then once in "Monitor & Display" you need to click on hardware at the top and tell it what monitor you have.01:08
dragonmasterMight be able to get in by using terminal and logging in as root.01:09
walrusLTYep01:09
walrusLTI am in live session01:09
stdinor just read what I said...01:09
dragonmasterDoes anyone know how to restore grub menu without re-installing Linux?01:09
stdin!grub01:10
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:10
dragonmasterThank you.01:10
dragonmasterI will be back later.01:11
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walrusLTHow to move application from 1 desktop to another?01:23
walrusLTcool01:25
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dragonmasterLinux restored.  Thank you stdin and ubottu.01:33
martynas_they should apply feature to make updates downloadable like torrents01:37
martynas_From many people, to increase speed01:38
martynas_nick walrus01:38
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BluesKajwalrus, you can by making "main" the default repository in adept01:41
BluesKajwalrus, it is meant for english speaking locales only , however01:42
walrusI dunno :)01:43
walrusi am newbie ;D01:43
BluesKajwalrus, do you use italian as your default language in kubuntu01:44
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walrusNo, i selected english01:45
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BluesKajoh sorry lt stands for latvia I believe , right ?01:45
walrus?01:46
walrusI am from Lithuania :D01:46
BluesKajoh sorry, my geography is off  tonight, but the mainserver is much faster than even my local server here in Canada , you can always change it back in adept01:48
david_I've got a question about SNMP. My ISP is complaining about my machine scanning their system when it boots up. Any guesses what the culprit might be?01:52
josh-lwhats the deb gui installer called on kubuntu?01:52
josh-lyou know when you click from dolphin01:52
josh-lon a package01:52
josh-lnevermind got it01:53
david_Hrm... It appears that snmpd needs to be disabled. How can I get to it via GUI or command line?01:54
Kasm279does anyone know how to install GNOME and Xfce into kubuntu?01:55
Kasm279logos!01:55
Kasm279legos!**01:55
Kasm279i like the old lego mindstorms...01:56
Kasm279the yellow ones01:56
Kasm279!xfce01:56
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels01:56
Kasm279ah, that helps01:56
Kasm279!gnome01:57
ubottuGNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.01:57
BluesKaj!KDE | Kasm27901:57
ubottuKasm279: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde401:57
walrusAll of these ubuntu's, kubuntu's, lubuntu's, xubuntu's and so on.. Makes me laught01:57
BluesKaj!desktop01:58
ubottuA desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors01:58
Kasm279DONT FORGET EDUBUNTU!01:58
walrusyeye01:58
Kasm279lol01:58
walrusAnd eudbuntu01:58
Kasm279!fluxbox01:58
BluesKajED Who ? :)01:58
ubottufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox01:58
Kasm279ther should be flubuntu01:59
walrusThey should make something like Microsoft Framework01:59
Kasm279!flavors01:59
ubottu!GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu01:59
walrusFor all unix systems01:59
walrus!framework02:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about framework02:00
cjaeI was trying to upgrade a 8.10 to kde 4.2 and now its so broken it not funny02:00
walrus!ubottu02:00
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:00
walrus:DDDD02:00
walrus!Microsoft Windows Vista02:00
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:00
cjaeI there something I can do to instead of the ppa. way to upgrade?02:00
walrus.02:00
cjae!4.202:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 4.202:01
BluesKaj!KDE402:01
ubottukde4 is KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 | 4.2 packages http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 | Support in #kubuntu02:01
walrus!WindowsXp02:01
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents02:01
walrusshi'02:01
walrusWould be cool to see `Sorry, I don't know anything about WindowsXp`02:01
* Kasm279 is there anyway to add more space to wubi without reinstalling?02:02
Kasm279!wubi02:02
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.02:02
david_Anyone know how to disable SNMP? Specifically, snmpd?02:02
Kasm279i have know idea wat that is02:02
Kasm279!snmp02:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about snmp02:03
Kasm279!snmpd02:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about snmpd02:03
walrusHow to install vga drivers?02:04
cjaewhy on some computer when I put kde 4.2 on it it goes on just fine and then the next it is a disaster02:05
BluesKajThe Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) provides a framework for the exchange of management information between agents (servers) and clients.02:05
Kasm279is there anyway to add more space to wubi without reinstalling?02:05
BluesKajcjae , did you upgrade from kde3.5 ?02:05
david_My ISP has decided that my computer looks like a 'bot, and they want the scanning stopped or they kick me off. How do I disable it?02:06
Kasm279!topic02:06
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic02:06
Kasm279hello?02:07
BluesKajdavid_, look in adept for SNMP, you can remove it there02:07
Kasm279is there anyway to add more space to wubi without reinstalling?02:07
david_OK. I guess I could do it from apt-get as well. I just thought there might be an easy way to disable the daemon process instead.02:08
cjaeBluesKaj: no fresh copy of 8.10 too02:08
BluesKajdavid_, I think you need that SNMP application for network management ... who kmnows what will happen to your internet connection without it.02:10
david_Well, then I'm pretty much screwed then.02:10
* Kasm279 yawns02:11
Kasm279is there anyway to add more space to wubi without reinstalling?02:12
BluesKajdavid_, call your ISP and tell them you run linux and don't use scanbots ...it's really their problem , not yours.02:12
david_I just spent 20 minutes with them on this.02:12
david_At first, they were fine. Now they're telling me it's against policy.02:13
BluesKajmaybe bill gates owns that ISP :)02:13
david_They haven't shown me the poilicy.02:13
david_It's Comcast.02:13
BluesKajoh lord02:13
* Kasm279 dies of shock02:13
david_It looks like snmp is being used by my printer.02:14
* Kasm279 also died of bordom02:14
david_The scans only happen at startup, so I assume that some sort of network discovery is happening.02:14
david_I don't want to uninstall, because I might be left with a worthless box.02:14
BluesKajdavid_, uninstall it with adept because the app is libsnmp - something02:15
david_Last time I updated my video drivers (last week) I could no longer log into my desktop.02:15
BluesKajok , david_ , try running your live cd if you still have it02:16
david_Here goes nothing. Yes, I have several live CDs.02:16
Kasm279i have 5 live cds02:16
david_My kids have about 20 live cds to do projects with... I just cleared out a bunch of stuff...02:17
david_Projects = "make pretty things with old CDs" ;-)02:17
Kasm279xubuntu, 2 (i386, PPC), ubuntu, 2(i386, PPC), kubuntu02:17
david_OK, time to reboot...02:17
david_-oo-02:17
Kasm279oh, i also have the edubuntu add-on cd02:18
cjaeok I am very sick of upgrading to 4.2 breaking something is there a site which does a good step by step which does not trash your computer02:19
walrusHewllo02:20
walrusHello, i have just downloaded `realtek-linux-audiopack-4.06a.tar.bz2`, hmmm. How can i install it? :)02:20
Kasm279effing windows02:22
Kasm279it just shut down the wubi installer02:22
Kasm279!bill gates02:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bill gates02:22
Kasm279!windows 200002:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about windows 200002:22
walruslol02:22
Kasm279!windows02:22
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents02:22
walrus!WindowsVista02:22
ubottuvista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows02:22
walrusshi'02:23
walrus!BSOD02:23
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about BSOD02:23
walrus:D02:23
walrus!Ubuntu Multimedia02:24
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:24
walrus!Ubuntu.Multimedia02:24
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:24
walrusshi'02:24
Kasm279!bsd02:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bsd02:25
david__Back again.  The machine booted fine. The internet is accessible, and the printer works.02:25
david__So removing snmp (assuming I did it right) didn't seem to nuke my machine.02:25
david__-oo-02:26
Kasm279-oo-02:27
Kasm279glasses?02:27
Kasm279!multimedia02:27
ubottuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications02:27
Kasm279multimedia codecs my a@#. i had to install mpeg 302:28
Kasm279ok, im running KDE 4.1, should i ubgrade to 4.2?02:29
Kasm279upgrade**02:29
Kasm279amd also:02:29
Kasm279is there anyway to add more space to wubi without reinstalling?02:29
* Kasm279 is starting to get frusturated02:30
cjaeanyone using jaunty alpha 6?02:30
bsithis damn screen is flickering02:31
Kasm279no02:31
Kasm2798.1002:31
bsiyes02:31
Kasm279(well, OSX right now, but on my laptop, 8.10)02:31
bsiany way to stop it02:32
Kasm279kubuntu isnt available for PPC :'(02:32
Kasm279my G3 is probably to slow to run it, though02:32
Dev09Hello everybody. I'm running Gnome on my 8.10 Ubuntu system and suspend/resume work flawlessly, however the same system and even 9.04 do not work with KDE4. Is there anything known about this?02:33
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walrusSup02:33
Kasm279go to #ubuntu02:33
walrusI hav ejus activated the nvdia drivers02:34
Kasm279good02:34
walrusand my resolution have decreased02:34
walrusYeah, really good..02:34
Kasm279nvidia>ati02:34
Kasm279oh, not good02:34
walrusYe02:34
walrusSo,02:34
walrusHow to change? I really want to have 1280x102402:35
Kasm279K>system settings >displays02:35
Dev09Kasm279, I'd recommend using nVidia settings to change anything related to an nVidia card.02:35
Kasm279ah02:36
Dev09nVidia settings as in the utility that comes with the driver.02:36
Kasm279but that would still work02:36
walrusI have looked there02:36
Dev09Not really :)02:36
Dev09kdesu nvidia-settings02:36
Dev09I think.02:36
Kasm279?02:36
walrusBut there is only 380x480 and 620x480 or some.02:36
Dev09That's why.02:36
Dev09walrus, Kasm279, run kdesu nvidia-settings and change it in there.02:36
Kasm279looked where?02:36
Kasm279?02:37
walrusthere02:37
Dev09You can then tell it to write it to the X Server conf file and it'll be set so.02:37
walrus:D02:37
Kasm279tell walrus02:37
walrusSystem Settings->Display02:37
Kasm279my lappy has ati02:37
walrusYou are happy02:37
Dev09walrus, try what I said... (not that I intend to put Kasm279 down, but try)02:38
Kasm279:'(02:38
Kasm279JK!02:38
Kasm279walrus, i am not happy02:39
walruscommand not fould02:39
walrus`run kdesu nvidia-settings` and `kdesu nvidia-settings` niot found02:39
Kasm279i still havent got my question answered02:39
Dev09walrus, Can you open Konsole?02:39
Kasm279is there anyway to add more space to wubi without reinstalling?02:39
walrusI have done that in reminal02:40
Dev09Kasm279, I personally have no idea.02:40
Kasm279ok02:40
walrusI have done that in terminal02:40
Dev09walrus, type nvidia and then tab.02:40
Dev09See if it completes with something.02:40
walrusI have answered02:40
Dev09Or double-tab.02:40
walrusAn you do this? I dont know what to do02:40
Kasm279does anyone know?02:40
Kasm279wait!02:40
walrusI would allow to connect to my pc, if it's possible02:41
Kasm279!wubi02:41
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.02:41
Dev09walrus, Like, just go into Konsole, type "nvidia" and then press the tab key on your keyboard twice, if there is a command that begins with nvidia, it should appear.02:41
walrusnvidia-bug-report.sh  nvidia-settings02:42
walrusnvidia-detector       nvidia-xconfig02:42
Dev09walrus, yeah, there it is.02:42
Dev09OK, write:02:42
Dev09sudo -i02:42
Dev09Press enter and write in your root password. Then enter again.02:42
walrusRoot password?02:42
Dev09walrus, Your password :)02:43
walrusOkey02:43
walrus:D02:43
walrusok,02:43
Dev09Once you're done, write:02:43
Dev09nvidia-settings02:43
Dev09And then enter.02:43
walrusI have looked in nvidia settings02:43
walrusVia GUI02:43
walrusI dont think this will help02:43
Dev09Yeah, there's a drop list that gives you the resolutions.02:44
Dev09It *should* work.02:44
walrusIt does'nt02:44
walrusSame as in Display02:44
Dev09walrus, Ah-hm.02:44
Dev09:(02:44
walrus:(02:45
Dev09Try pressing on the "advanced" button.02:45
walrusThen i could just st virtual resolution02:45
walrusThen i could just set virtual resolution02:45
Dev09There's a litte text box that should say something like "number x number x number".02:45
Dev09No, it's  number + number + number.02:45
Dev09Perhaps you can write 1280+1024+(the number already there) and try it out.02:46
walrusWich box/02:46
walrusWich box?02:46
Dev09Crap... Wait.02:46
Dev09walrus, in Konsole, write:02:47
Dev09kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:47
Dev09Then copy-paste its contents here.02:48
casinowarrenmy mozilla keeps crashing on me, and i'm not sure why02:49
casinowarrencan somebody help?02:49
walrushere? :D02:49
casinowarrenhahaha...funny02:49
Dev09casinowarren, Disable add-ons.02:49
denfordmy monitor can run at higher resolutions than my ubuntu will alow. Help!!?02:49
casinowarrenwhen i open it up it crashes02:49
walrusWhat to paste?02:49
Dev09walrus, Everything in there.02:50
walrusWhat terminal prints or file contents?02:50
Dev09File contents.02:50
casinowarrenok, under the kdesudo dolphin command right?02:50
walrushttp://pastebin.com/m248940fc02:50
Dev09walrus, Nice :) It's just that some people don't really know how to use PasteBin, so rather not confuse them, hehe02:51
walrus:D02:51
Dev09walrus, What video card do you have?02:51
walrusMX48002:52
walrusOld02:52
walrusOr 440.. :D02:52
walrusi think 44002:52
casinowarrendev09, when I open thunderbird it crashes instantly02:52
Dev09casinowarren, OK, so then open Dolphin... Do View-->Hidden Files.02:53
Dev09walrus, Give me a min.02:54
walrusokay02:54
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casinowarrenok02:55
walrusdo you need monitor name or something?02:55
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Dev09casinowarren, There should be a folder called ".mozilla"02:55
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casinowarrenthere is a file called mozilla02:55
Dev09casinowarren, A folder.02:56
Dev09With a dot at the beginning.02:56
Ac1hey there02:56
casinowarrenin the root user file correct?02:56
Ac1good eening02:56
walrussu02:56
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walrussup02:56
denfordWalrus: could I use your paste bin to unlock higher resolutions on my montior?02:56
Dev09No, in your "home".02:56
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Ac1does anybody can help me about GIMP instalation?02:56
walrusYeah if you need02:57
walrusBut my paste bin does not give higher re02:57
casinowarrenok one sec02:57
walrus* res :D02:57
denfordah, stink!02:57
denfordany tips on where I might find such info?02:57
walrusYou aare living with 640x480 also?02:57
casinowarrenok i found it02:58
Ac1I put ''sudo apt-get install gimp'' but it only installs 2 or 3 previous version02:58
walrusDev09 help me :D02:58
walrusDev09 helps me :D02:58
Ac1and I just can't get the last one02:58
denfordnah work just got me a new 24 inch to use as a second display but I can only jack it up to 1440x900 at the moment02:58
olidoghey where can I chat with hot goth chicks?02:58
Dev09walrus, Am multitasking here, and reading a book. I came here just to ask a question and now am answering two.02:58
walrusHehe :D02:58
Dev09casinowarren, rename it to whatever you want.02:58
casinowarrenyou're the greatest dev02:58
Ac1and to edit the 'sorces.list' I don't know how to add the adress of the last version of GIMP02:59
casinowarrenalso, there is a file called .mozilla-thunderbird02:59
casinowarrenanything with that?02:59
Dev09casinowarren, Just change names.02:59
Ac1I don't know if I need to put 'deb' or 'deb-src' in the begginning... or if I shloud put 'hardy' or' woody' in the end02:59
casinowarrenok did the name change on .mozilla03:00
Ac1ok03:00
Dev09walrus, I just can't find how to specify a resolution in the file.03:00
Ac1am I talking to walls here?03:00
walrus:/03:00
walrusNp,03:01
Dev09casinowarren, OK, change the name on the other folder too.03:01
casinowarrenok done03:01
Ac1warlus?03:01
olidoganyone into gothic satanic fetishism?03:01
Ac1test if somebody is reading me!03:01
casinowarrenI see you Ac103:01
Ac1ping casinowarren03:01
casinowarrenlol03:02
Ac1heehehehe03:02
Ac1finally somebody replied me03:02
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Ac1oildog - I kindda like...03:02
Dev09casinowarren, Firefox and all that should work now.03:02
Ac1casinowarren- can you help me with this?03:02
casinowarrenthanks03:02
Dev09I said "should"...03:03
Ac1oildog is still here?03:03
casinowarrenwhat you need help with Ac?03:03
casinowarrenlol...it works again, but my firefox wasn't having any issues03:03
casinowarrenand I liked all my addons for that03:04
casinowarrencan I change the file back for that?03:04
Ac1ok... you nmay call me Ace... (but Ace was taken and the system place a '1' instead os 'e'03:04
olidogAc1 i'm still here03:04
casinowarrenalright "Ace" lol03:04
Dev09walrus, OK...03:04
Dev09casinowarren, Yes, rename it back as it was.03:04
casinowarrenok03:04
Dev09walrus, Replace your x.org with http://pastebin.com/m2b209a9c03:04
Dev09casinowarren, You'll see that .mozilla has been recreated, so delete the new one first, of course.03:05
casinowarreni never opened back up firefox03:05
casinowarrenjust thunderbird03:05
Ac1I'm using kubuntu 8.04, and if I install the software GIMP, both ways.. konsole = apt-get or adept = add.... they get me GIMP 2.4 and I want the GIMP 2.603:05
Dev09walrus, I hope your card supports 1280x1024, otherwise you're not going to like your monitor not working.03:05
Dev09casinowarren, OK, I was just saying.03:05
casinowarrentry downloading from gimp.org03:06
Ac1but I dion't know how to FORCE the system to ge gimp from another source03:06
casinowarrenthey have the .deb file03:06
Dev09So rename .mozilla back to its original name and that's it...03:06
casinowarrenthanks dev03:06
casinowarrenyou are a real big help03:06
Dev09casinowarren, No problem. Does it work at least?03:06
casinowarrenyeah it does03:06
Dev09Awesome.03:06
casinowarrendon't have all my cool extensions but hey it works03:06
Dev09walrus, You there?03:06
walrusyep03:07
walrusI have just tryed03:07
walrusmartynas@martynas-desktop:~$ xrandr --addmode S-video 800x60003:07
casinowarrenAce, gimp.org has the file you are looking for03:07
walrusxrandr: cannot find output "S-video"03:07
Dev09casinowarren, Hey, your extensions were the issue, so you can't complain.03:07
casinowarrenno i can't03:07
walrusBut everything sucks03:07
Ac1using windows, we get 'files.exe' all you have to do is double click on it... and in linux it is too complicated... the only software I could install in linux nice and easy was skype.... skype gave me a file called 'setup.dev'... and all I had to do was double click on it...03:07
olidogAc1 i'm still here03:07
Dev09walrus, Why s-video?03:07
Ac1why da hell GIMP cannot be the same way????03:07
walrusWhat i know :D Just found it in wiki03:07
casinowarrendid you install the runtime?03:07
Dev09walrus, Haha, no,  no.03:08
walrusWhy not?03:08
casinowarrenbecause that can be the biggest problem with gimp on windows03:08
Dev09walrus, Did you replace your xorg.conf with what I said?03:08
walrusAtlast somwthing would happen03:08
Dev09walrus, S-Video is an output for an external monitor like a TV.03:08
walruswait03:08
walrusk03:08
Dev09walrus, But you have to be sure that your card supports that mode, you understand?03:09
walrusOk03:09
Dev09walrus, Otherwise you'll likely be left alone in a bad video situation :).03:09
walrusAnd, how can i replace it?03:09
Ac1in windows I HAVE the gimp 2.6 runing... and I want my kubuntu to hae the same version.. but entering the gimp.org... in download section... it has no file to download... only the instruction... 'type sudo apt-get install gimp'' to get the latest version (letest version my ass!!!)03:10
Dev09walrus, in Konsole, write: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:10
casinowarrenok one second ace03:10
Ac1oildog... - what kind of satanic fetish do you have?03:10
casinowarrenlet me look03:10
Ac1casinowarren - thanks03:10
casinowarrenAc1 - npo03:10
casinowarrennp03:10
olidoggoth girls into occultism03:10
Dev09walrus, Then just copy the contents from the website and replace your entire file in Kate. Then save and reboot. If I see you again, then it should all be happily working.03:10
walrusK03:10
olidogspecially redheads with big tits03:10
walrusWell, lets try :D03:10
walrusBye bye everyone03:10
walrus:D03:10
walruslawl03:11
Ac1if there was a variant, of apt-get... or an 'option' like "sudo apt-get install gimp from here:thereallatestversion.url''03:11
Dev09Bof, It's not that old of a card.03:11
walrusI have replaced and saved,03:11
walrusWhat now? ;.03:11
walrus;>03:11
Ac1oildog..... doing what? raping men? dressed like a demon? with wings and tail?03:11
Dev09walrus, OK, wait a sec. I just wanna recheck that there are no synatax errors. Then you'll reboot.03:12
Dev09walrus, No, all OK. Reboot and let's see what happens.03:12
olidogjust being sexy, in a dark way03:12
casinowarrenok sorry ac103:12
rodrigo.03:12
Ac1casino - sorry for what?03:13
casinowarreni went through my synaptic package manager, my adept manager, and the gimp site03:13
casinowarrenmine all say 2.603:13
Ac1rodrigo - portugues? spanol?03:13
casinowarrensooooooooo...that leads me to believe you haven't changed the settings on your repositories03:13
rodrigoportugues03:13
Ac1casino warren... where and how can I modify my sources.list to point to a place of latest gimp version?03:13
Ac1de onde falas?03:14
Ac1brazil? portugal? cabo verde?03:14
casinowarrenwhat package manager are you using?03:14
rodrigobrazil03:14
Ac1casino - I don't know... where can I check it?03:14
olidogyo hablo un poco de castellano03:14
Ac1(I'm using kubuntu for 3 monthes.. I'm still new to this stuf)03:15
casinowarrengo to your K menu03:15
Ac1ok.. and?03:15
casinowarrenif your using adept it'll be there in the menu03:15
casinowarrenadept installer03:15
Dev09walrus?03:15
casinowarrenadd/remove software03:15
Dev09Right, yeah, he is gone...03:16
Ac1adept manager 2.1 cruiser (using kde 3.5.10)03:16
casinowarrenok03:16
Ac1rodrigo - que contas? qual tua area?03:16
casinowarrenok open up adept03:16
Ac1opened03:17
Ac1I saw that in 'about' inside the adept03:17
casinowarrengo to sources03:17
casinowarrenand click on edit software sources03:17
Ac1"manage repositories" ?03:18
casinowarrenyeah03:18
casinowarrensorry i'm using the newest version of kubuntu03:18
Ac1I didn't like the 8.1003:18
Ac1I'm still on 8.0403:18
casinowarrenoh, cause i'm having very few problems with the newest version now that i've updated everything03:19
casinowarrenand when i upgraded, the newest stable release for mine was 2.603:19
Ac1my source lists is like this:03:19
Ac1deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted03:19
Ac1deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted03:19
Ac1deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe03:19
Ac1deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe03:19
Ac1deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse03:19
Ac1deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse03:19
Ac1deb http://linux.getdropbox.com/ubuntu hardy main03:19
Ac1deb-src http://linux.getdropbox.com/ubuntu hardy main03:19
senseanyone know where the actual program file firefox is located in ubuntu?03:19
Ac1deb http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net hardy main03:19
Ac1deb-src http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net hardy main03:19
Ac1deb ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.6 hardy main03:19
Ac1deb-src ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.6 hardy main03:19
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casinowarrenok03:19
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Guest78732hi03:20
casinowarrenthat is the right repositories03:20
casinowarrenhmmmmmmmmmmmm03:20
Ac1casino - I try a few times to install softwares manually in linux (using the tar.bz files) I follow the READ ME instructions but it was ALWAYS frustrating and disapointed03:20
senseanyone know where the actual program file firefox is located in ubuntu?03:20
Guest78732checking out Quassel looks better that that other one in 8.1003:21
casinowarrenyeah, i know how that is03:21
Ac1it creates a folder called ' .gimp2.4 '... that doesn't disappear when I remove the software..03:21
Ac1should I rename it to 2.6?03:21
casinowarrenyou can, but it won't make a difference03:21
casinowarrenwell, try it actually03:22
Ac1how can I 'cheat' the system to get the last version?? :'(03:22
Guest70567Testing03:22
casinowarrenlet me look into it for you, because I know a few different ways03:22
casinowarrenby the way my producer is getting mad cause i'm supposed to be recording right now03:22
Guest78732anybody know some good graphical applications such as gimp and inkscape and blender and other ones out their? I only saw alot of music applications in ubuntu studio when i merged the kde with it though i just want to download the graphical aspects and wallpapers03:23
Dev09_sense, In Konsole, run: whereis firefox03:23
Guest78732firefox does have a new stable verison in beta 3 works well03:23
casinowarrenyou can also look for the graphics files in the repositories guest03:23
Ac1casinowarren - are you a musician?03:24
casinowarrenyeah03:24
casinowarreni'm working on my mixtape right now03:24
Ac1cool... I used to sing and play bass...03:24
casinowarrenit's supposed to be in my dj's hands on friday03:24
casinowarrenlol03:24
Ac1but I believe I'm better as a moviemaker..03:24
Ac1I produce short movies and video clips03:24
Guest78732ok what kpackage hmm haven't seen if they have gotten that working yet i did noticed though sudo aptitude upgrade is deprecated it is now safe-upgrade03:25
casinowarrenthat's cool, i play 6 instruments but only get fame as a rapper here in dallas03:25
Ac1there it goes... downloading gimp 2.4 AGAIN!!!03:25
Guest78732no need to use apt-get install or remove only aptitude install or remove, update first then install03:25
Ac1and my desire of kicking and stomping this computer to dust just raise!!03:26
casinowarrenLOL03:26
casinowarrensorry don't mean to laugh03:26
casinowarreni went  through the same thing about 3 months ago03:26
casinowarrenbut when i went to the gimp site they still had the .deb packages for download03:27
Ac1casiuno - think with me... there are some adresses there...  let's supose the kubuntu.org has the gimp2.4 and gimp.org has the gimp2.6... HOW can I FORCE the system to 'look' into GIMP source, instead of KUBUNTU source?03:27
casinowarrenthat i don't know off the top of my head03:28
Ac1if I add a # in front of all the URLs except of GIMP.... would it work?03:28
Guest78732just install the tar03:28
Guest78732and complie from source no big deal03:28
Ac1guest78732 - to hear what to say.. makes me sweat and loose blood pressure...03:29
casinowarrenyeah, that is a good point, but if you don't know how to do that then it becomes a real pain03:29
Guest78732pc-bsd has the right idea with pci files removing them like windows and such. mean while the kde stuff is seperated03:29
Ac1how HATEFUL and DISGUSTING is trying to install from TAR03:29
casinowarrenlol03:29
casinowarrenace, my producer is fixing to shoot me in the butt03:29
casinowarreni'll be back in a few03:29
Ac1actually... there is NO 'install from tar'... the real thing is 'try from tar'03:29
Ac1'waste your time from tar'03:29
casinowarrenif you haven't got it figured out i'll look deeper into it for you03:29
Ac1that's the real thing03:29
Ac1ok casino03:30
Ac1thanks03:30
Ac1please03:30
Ac1bookmark my site03:30
Ac1www.spades-art.com03:30
Guest78732Acl you know how much stuff out their on the internet is a tar. Easy and simple install slackware lol all tar baby03:30
Ac1take a look at my art.. and contact me if you need something03:30
Guest78732i install from tar all the time03:31
Ac1ok , baby... I'm a fucking windows user.. I'm into kubuntu for a few monthes... and all I could install was from add/remove adept03:31
Ac1well... if you are a chosen of god, lucky you03:31
Ac1lucky you if the physics works different..03:32
tanjirAc1: watch your mouth please :)03:32
Ac1for me... is wast of time...03:32
Guest78732i am using the jaunty version adept i don't see in here at first i used the terminal but they did another snapshot /upgrade03:32
Guest78732virtualbox please use for windows03:33
Guest78732screw the wine aspect03:33
Guest78732virtualbox all the way03:33
Ac1tanjir - ok.. but it was not my mounth.. it was my fingers... and it is really really hard to keep myself away from sayin a bad word... when I am too pissed off of wasting 4 hours to do a pathetic thing such as.... 'install a software'03:33
tanjirGuest78732: are you new ubuntu user?03:33
stdinwine and virtualbox do separate things03:33
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tanjirAc1: which software you are trying to install?03:33
Guest787324 hours for real? yeah virtual box is not a emutor03:34
stdinGuest78732: other way round, wine is not an emulator03:34
Ac1I really don't l like to deal to something that makes me feel a retarded... that's why I get angry03:34
Guest78732i got a bunch of links on my myspace www.myspace.com/richardshawnfaust03:34
WatchBotGuest78732: Please keep your links on topic and work safe.03:34
Guest78732wine is an emulator03:34
stdinno, it's not03:34
Ac1please.. call me Ace (the '1' was given me by the system)03:34
Guest78732yes it is03:34
stdingo read the wine page03:34
Guest78732says so03:34
stdinW.I.N.E = Wine Is Not An Emulator03:35
Ac1some say WINE is WINdows Emulator...03:35
Guest78732fine going to doble check that but last time i did it sure acts like one03:35
tanjirAce, I saw you are trying to install gimp... what is wrong with apt-get install gimp?03:35
stdinread the FAQ on winehq.org03:35
Ac1but actually it means another sign.. which I forgot03:35
Ac1anyway... wine is not a solution for me... cause 3dsmax cannot run into it...03:36
Ac1and 3dsmax is the only mud of foster thing that holds me into a windows system03:36
Guest78732still like virtualbox sun has been good to us all in alot of open source software the web wouldn't be the same with out them03:36
Ac1tanji03:36
Ac1tanji - I wish to install the last... the lastest FOR GOOD... version of GIMP03:37
Ac1but my system seems like LOVING the old 2.4 version03:37
Ac1not even christ makes it understand, they already lauched the 2.6 version03:37
tanjirAc1: that is probably because kubuntu still does not support the new one03:38
tanjiror your version of kubuntu03:38
stdin!info gimp03:38
ubottugimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-1ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 4264 kB, installed size 12472 kB03:38
stdin^ 2.603:38
Guest78732!info inkscape03:38
ubottuinkscape (source: inkscape): vector-based drawing program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.46-2ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 13883 kB, installed size 59976 kB03:38
tanjirhere you go03:38
Guest78732!info blender03:38
ubottublender (source: blender): Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.46+dfsg-4ubuntu0.1 (intrepid), package size 7438 kB, installed size 21872 kB03:38
tanjirGuest78732: if you are a hardcore 3d designer, I will suggest you to stick with your mac or windows... linux is not for that purpose03:39
Guest78732!info quanta03:39
ubottuquanta (source: kdewebdev): web development environment for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 2435 kB, installed size 5900 kB03:39
stdinyou can /msg ubottu03:39
Guest78732i had a lot of trouble with install quanta after the web install then trying quanta it wants to remove the kde03:40
Ac1no shit.... so.. you are trying to say is.. if I want to work high professional level in digital graphics.. I shall FORGET linux03:41
stdinAc1: watch the language in here03:41
Guest78732what are you talking about linux is the daddy of the mac03:41
tanjirstdin: thanks03:42
Guest78732or at least you can say gnu played a big part in helping develop the mac os system03:42
tanjirAc1: right. not e'thing comes for free. if you want to do something that professional spend professionally.03:42
Ac1I am studyin this softwa\res, because I believe in linux..03:43
Guest78732yeah i am a computer science major ;)03:43
tanjirAc1: that is good. commercial versions of linux support a lot of powerful softwares. the free ones you are all by your own. read GNU GPL license before you use.03:44
Ac1stdin - why da mel you can't stand bad words here? I simply cannot understand that !! grown people SAY bad words as strength of expression!!03:44
stdin!language03:44
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.03:44
stdinbecause there are quite possibly children in this channel03:45
stdinand it's part of the channel rules03:45
Ac1a ducking here, a mud of foster there, a sheet all over the place... words like this, don't kill anybody! for good fakes!!03:45
stdinthese are the rules, like it or lump it03:45
Guest78732though i believe some of this stuff is deemed not good on just a mornal desktop for the norm user. Looks like it is expected that the kde is for labtops, THough the labtop market is growing and desktop shrinking and the prices are so much better than a few years ago tech price went down03:45
Ac1ok... just for enclosure..03:46
tanjirGuest78732: that is quite debatable. Laptop market is growing, but not necessarily desktop market is shrikining. More people are using computer too.03:46
Ac1I won't be able to have gimp 2.6 in my kubuntu 8.04?03:47
Ac1(I really don't like kubuntu 8.10)03:47
Guest78732upgrade to jaunty i see no probelms with it03:47
tanjirwhat don't you like about interpid?03:47
tanjirJaunty is not officially supported yet... not recommended for new users03:48
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tolucanhi there ... got some problem with kubuntu 8.10 here03:48
Guest78732ohh yeah i forget just like when i first used interpid i still had to research so much stuff but being tech savy it was easier but still i did my homework03:48
Ac1about friendly and family channel... I am not calling someone by bad names.. that would be the opposiute of friendly...  I'm against this nature.. of getting enemies..03:48
Guest78732interpid kde was the first liux install i ever did03:49
Guest78732since then i've used so many disto's it isn't funny even bought a bigger harddrive more ram etc... Trying to upgrade this 32 bit sysytem to  max so then i can just go buy that 64 bit labtop and have two different cross compiling systems here03:50
tanjirAc1: gimp 2.6 is not supported in kubuntu 8.04... but still you can do it (in a complicated way and on your own risk)03:51
tanjirlook here: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/13/install-gimp-26-in-ubuntu-804/03:51
tanjirAc1: warning you again, at your own risk03:51
tanjirtolucan: what is your problem?03:52
Ac1I thought KUBUNTU and UBUNTU were both 'DEBIAN linux"03:52
stdinboth based of Debian03:52
casinowarrenthey are both debian linux03:52
tolucanAtheros card :-/ won?t function due to incompatible firmware or something like this kubuntu states while booting03:52
tanjirGuest78732: I am not sure what labtop is03:52
Ac1and the difference is the kde or gnu.. which are only 'window manager' (to make the language beautifuler (one thing you seem to adore)03:52
Guest78732did you try the prerelease check box and also the fact using aptitufe install gimp 2.6. might be better03:52
Guest78732aptitude03:52
tolucanand I?m a bit confused by the lot of different information I find according to this problem03:52
casinowarrenac1 you getting everything resolved?03:53
stdinAc1: kde or gnome, and there are other window managers available03:53
tanjirAc1: GNU= GNU is Not Unix03:53
Ac1good.. so.. WHY 8.04 and 8.10 are different? I thought the only difference between them was the KDE version... responsable only for the 'look' (appearance)03:54
tanjirAc1: you can't use 2.6 due to conflict of some of the files.03:54
Ac1I thought what runs in one, runs in the other03:54
tanjirAc1: nope... both comes with both KDE and GNome03:54
stdinthe difference between 8.04 and 8.10 is about 6 months of development03:54
tanjir*gNome03:54
Ac1ok... and guest? what does 'aptitude' do?03:55
Kasm279!gnome03:55
ubottuGNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.03:55
stdin!aptitude03:55
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide03:55
stdin2.6 is not in 8.04 at all, probably because it depends on newer libraries than 8.04 can provide without having to update all other packages03:55
Guest78732yes in thought kubuntu and ubuntu are the same except kubu built on a negitive y correct? They share and can exchange libarys and such knowing both use the gnu still libary kernel, also the fact i believe kde might just be a front end, also the fact they are based of of debian but if you try debian you can't install the sid which ubuntu kubuntu are based of off, also the fact noticed some of the widgets are from redhat? Of which fendo03:56
Guest78732 redhat so i belive redhat is involved and might be using or based off of fendora as well03:56
Guest78732noticed though you see obuntu alot int he terminal03:56
Guest78732oubuntu03:56
Ac1ok... thanks fir the information... I'm gonna read the URLs you placed here.03:57
tanjirGuest78732: do you know what are you talking about? :-/03:57
Guest78732even if you use ubuntu and use the terminal you can install the kde and activate the plamsa and still have the gnome working as well03:57
Ac1holly trap103:57
stdin1) Kubuntu and Ubuntu are both part of the Ubuntu project. Kubuntu come with the KDE UI and Ubuntu with the Gnome UI. 2) We take a snapshot of Debian unstable, we don't run off it constantly. 3) We're not based off fedora, but redhad to release software (under the GPL) which we (and others) use03:57
Guest78732i am trying  ;)003:58
Guest78732sid sid03:58
tanjirwhat about sid?03:58
tanjir!sid03:58
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sid03:58
Guest78732every try the sidx disto?03:58
Guest78732ack03:58
Ac1why gimp works so bad in windows... and works fine in linux?03:58
stdinyou'd have to ask the gimp developers03:59
casinowarreni can explain that one ac103:59
Ac1even if you allow in the preferences to gim to use a lot of ram and processors... in linux it works faster03:59
tanjirAc1: because of the libraries... others use proprietary libraries for windows... gimp uses gtk+ i believe, which is platform independent03:59
Guest78732yeah sidx is the closest distro you will find based of the debian sid03:59
stdinthis isn't the place to explain it03:59
tanjirGuest78732: why do you need sid for?04:00
Guest78732because that is what version ubuntu lastest is based off of from debian just modifiyed etc04:01
Ac1windows XP allow no more than 2 gb of ram per software... and vista no more than 4gb..04:01
Guest78732sid04:01
Guest78732says so right on ubuntu site04:01
Ac1server 2003 alows 256gb of ram per software..04:01
stdinsid is unstable04:01
stdinAc1: depends on the CPU04:01
Ac1in linux (as a free software) is that possible? to config a bunch of ram per software?04:01
tolucannot true Ac1 ... Vista 64bit DOES allow more than 4gb04:01
Guest78732most the timemaybe who knows but you can say i am using it right now ;) though ubuntu comes and checks it out first before setting free04:02
Ac1npe... vista MANAGES 8gb... but ALLOWS only 4gb per software04:02
Ac1XP MANAGE 4gb and allows 2gb04:02
tolucanstarts with 8gb and ultimate can use 128gb or so, don?t exactly remember04:02
Guest78732like everything stuff gets filtered out of different distros04:02
Guest78732bugs etc04:03
Ac1and it is not all versrions of 2003server that manages 256gb.... it is a kind of service pack for 2003server04:03
Ac1and it is too hard to create a live CD?04:03
Ac1a customized one?04:03
Guest78732live cd for what? which distro?04:04
stdin!customlivecd04:04
ubottuCreating custom Live CDs is explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization04:04
Guest78732i know i ran into a problem when using a cd-r =/ matters on the speed if it can be read 40x can etc but lower versions can't04:05
Ac1I download the setup cd from kubuntu.org... and the setup ALSO runs as LIVE.... but it stands as default configuration.. I wish to have it with my timezones clocks, my desktops, my taskbars..04:05
Kasm279!me04:05
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Ac1OH!! thanks ubotu04:05
Guest78732check out my myspace if using windows or vista there is an link for iso tool04:05
stdindon't post off-topic links04:05
Guest78732www.myspace.com/richardshawnfaust04:05
stdinthis is #kubuntu support, not windows04:05
WatchBotGuest78732: Please keep your links on topic and work safe.04:05
tanjir!offtopic04:06
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:06
Ac1I wish I become a MAYA master as I'm a 3dsmax master! so I could kiss windows' bass good bye!04:06
Ac1and I could migrate to MAC or LINUX04:06
Kasm279ugh, this is taking a while04:06
Ac1a while?04:06
Ac1these 3D softwares are like a highschool04:07
Kasm279downloading ubuntu-desktop for kubuntu04:07
Ac1or college...04:07
Ac1I can remember...04:07
Kasm279Mac pwns almost everything04:07
Ac1define: pwns04:07
Kasm279(im chatting on a mac04:07
Kasm279)04:07
Guest78732ok i am so outta here got to install the new firefox beta been haivng a problem after isntall kubuntu and trying to instal pc-bsd  in then nothing loads  grudge maybe if i don't load the the pc-bsd bootloader?04:08
Kasm279and my laptop runs kubuntu04:08
Ac1I'm on a kubuntu now.. in one computer.. and with a notebook with winXP04:08
Ac1my desktop runs dualboot... but I mainly use kubuntu04:08
Kasm279my lappy runs winXP with kununtu under Wubi04:08
Ac1I just use the XP when I need a 'net  render' here04:08
tanjirthe first thing i did with my netbook was removing xp and installing kubuntu :P04:09
Kasm279i use XP for games04:09
Kasm279lol04:09
Ac1I don't like games04:09
Ac1I would love to MAKE them04:09
Ac1because I'm an artist04:09
Kasm279ah04:09
Guest78732basicalling i install an addon pc-bsd after the kubuntu at another partion and when i reboot nothing happens but the grub menu asking which one linux, pc-bsd or drive, though pc-bsd you can't use virtual box maybe i should keep linux as main os and unix as a play toy while slackware as my pet04:10
Kasm279WHO HOO!04:10
Kasm279i found my files!04:10
Ac1but I'm a bad player04:11
Ac1all my skill in videogames stood back in 90's04:11
Kasm279lol04:11
Kasm279in dos?04:11
Ac1mega drive, nintendo 8-bit04:11
Kasm279ah04:11
Guest78732lets go back to pong =)04:11
Ac1so.. games for me in computer.. are MAME, or GENESIS EMULATOR04:12
Kasm279now weve got 16-bit in our hands04:12
Ac1etc04:12
Ac1I don'y like PONG04:12
Guest78732no no wrong company =) i rem when i had my first megaman on ns04:12
Kasm279im thinking about a genisis emu for my ds04:12
Ac1I don't like the games from when I was 804:12
stdin!ot04:12
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:12
Ac1the atari 80's games..04:12
Ac1I like 90's arcades and megadrives04:12
Kasm279oh, we better move04:13
Guest78732is atari nitendo or wa that sega?04:13
Ac1megadrive is sega genesis 8-bit04:13
Ac1(or 16?)04:13
Guest787320_o04:14
stdinAc1: take the off topic chat to #kubuntu-offtopic04:14
Ac1anyway.. for americans it was GENESIS.. and for japanese it was MEGA-DRIVE04:14
Kasm279is the n64 64 bit?04:14
Kasm279( i doubt it)04:14
Guest78732its funny off topic i really don't see any other chat going on in here? though i was leaving anyway lol thks04:14
Ac1wait wait wait... before we continue...04:14
Ac1astdin: you mean.. 'I better quite the subject'?04:15
stdinAc1: you can continue to talk about it in #kubuntu-offtopic04:15
tanjirto do that, type /join #kubuntu-offtopic04:16
Ac1as "Ace you sun of my beach!! if you to talk aboiut games, go to 'gamesroom', mud of foster!!!"04:16
Ac1right?04:16
Kasm279g;night, everyone04:16
stdinas in the first 3 words of the channel topic "Official Kubuntu support"04:16
tanjirAc1: don't take it personally, but this is official room for something.04:17
stdinnot "official games chat"04:17
Ac1anyway.. I was about to quit the room... you helped me a lot here...  but when I was loging off.. someone started to say about games.. and then the subject became 'games'.. but as I explained.. I'm not a game master.. I don't like that much and all I was explaining.. is that I WAS a game lover, and what I know aboiut games, is dead today... understand?04:18
Ac1:)04:18
Ac1anyway... thanks a lot...  thanks: casinowarren, tanjir, stdin....04:19
Ac1I believe it was the first time I had a useful time in IRC... last time I used was back in 1999.. and I hated it... because nobody replied me .. and it was a full of 'you can't do this, you can't do that' community.. but for the first time.. I'm glad I logged in04:20
Ac1thank you104:20
Ac1later guys04:20
tanjirenjoy Ac104:21
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Ac1(the name is Ace.. ;) )04:21
tanjirthis guy has big time ego issue :-|04:22
MakuseruIn grub, when you point it at a drive you use tags like (hd0,2) and such. How do i figure out the location of a particular drive?04:40
stdinMakuseru: from /boot/grub/device.map04:41
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kasm279ah, i will soon also have GNOME!05:34
kasm279is anyone awake?05:38
kasm279WAKE UP!05:38
jussi01no05:39
jussi01:)05:39
jussi01kasm279: whats the issue?05:40
kasm279no PPC kubuntu!05:40
jussi01!ppc05:40
ubottuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ05:40
jussi01hrm, go ask in #ubuntu-ppc05:40
jussi01Im pretty sure you can install ubuntu then apt-get it05:41
kasm279ive looked around05:41
kasm279true05:41
jussi01There is definately repos, so no reason why you shouldnt be able to apt get it.05:41
jussi01anyway, I got to get on a plane.05:41
kasm279if i could het my iMac to boot from the ubuntu or xubuntu PPC disks i burned05:42
kasm2794 minutes!05:42
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komiyohi05:52
Kasm279ok, i need help06:04
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Kasm279ny laptop shut down when i was installing ubuntu-desktop and now i get "dpkg interrupted" message in terminal, wat do i do?06:08
Kasm279HELP!06:09
Kasm279hello?06:12
Kasm279hello?06:15
Kasm279ny laptop shut down when i was installing ubuntu-desktop and now i get "dpkg interrupted" message in terminal, wat do i do?06:16
Kasm279hello?06:19
Kasm279hello?06:21
walrusHi again :D06:33
Kasm279walrus?06:38
Kasm279WALRUS?!06:45
walrusye06:53
walruswassup06:53
walrus:D06:53
walrusI am so happy with my windows <306:53
walrus:D06:53
walrusI have done what Dev09 said and then my copy of ubuntu was fu** up :D06:54
eMaXthen you shouldn't have done what Dev09 has said and then you'd be fu** up with your copy of Windows :D06:56
walrus?06:56
walrusNno07:01
walrusOh07:01
PodeCoetHelp, no matter what recording program I try and use, I'm unable to record sound, all throw messages about openning the sound device (tried ALSA and OSS)07:20
PodeCoetTried Audacity, Jokosher and Ardour, all the same, with Ardour complaining about being unable to start jackd07:21
PodeCoetguess I'll just install soundforge under windows VM then :\07:24
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rehmanhi every body.07:42
rehmanPlease help me, konqueror is not opening any page. but it changes the icon in the address bar.07:42
rehmanPlease help07:42
rehmanPLEASE HELP ME ON KONQUEROR07:44
rehmanSCHMIDTM HI07:45
rehmanANY BODY. PLEASE HELP ME ON KONQUEROR07:46
PodeCoetlol doesn't look like anyone's in or interested, been waiting 30 mins07:46
PodeCoetuse firefox07:46
rehmanPode, no firefox in kubuntu.07:47
PodeCoetsudo apt-get install firefox07:47
PodeCoetor just add it in add/remove programs in your k menu07:47
PodeCoetI found it works better than Konqueror07:47
rehmanunfortunately, i have slow connection. but i am trying. thanks07:48
PodeCoetno problem, it'd be much quicker if you do it from the Konsole then07:48
PodeCoet(as opposed to the package manager)07:48
rehmanok07:49
rehmanbut one interesting thing is this that it changes the icon in the address bar according to the site.07:50
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PodeCoethaha yeah those kinds of issues are really interesting to troubleshoot - I guess you can hang around and eventually someone might come along and help you with the issue07:50
PodeCoethave you tried #ubuntu? it's a far more active channel07:51
rehmanno, How can i get to it07:51
PodeCoet /join #ubuntu07:52
PodeCoet(type it)07:52
rehmanthanks. it did07:53
PodeCoetnp07:53
Rieshrehman: it changes the icon because on the server where the site is hosted is a favicon.ico file ... this is normal behavior07:53
PodeCoetRiesh: apparently thats _ALL_ it does07:55
PodeCoetwont render the pages07:55
RieshPodeCoet: aah .. yes that can be annoying :-)07:55
PodeCoetRiesh: Only slightly :P07:56
RieshPodeCoet: little more when in a bad mood07:56
PodeCoetRiesh: I hear ya, I gave up and installed Windows XP under virtualbox to be able to record and edit soundfiles lol07:57
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Riesh:-) aha ... OK ... still think it is possible with Audacity ... when having installed lame from medibuntu :-)07:58
PodeCoetRiesh: I have no issues with audacity, but so far 3 audio programs (Audacity, Jokosher, Ardour) have had issues openning ALSA, so it's basically impossible for me to record :P07:59
PodeCoetotherwise the software is cool07:59
RieshPodeCoet: If it now works for you, just do it that way ... there are many ways to get a result ... i know in linux sometimes things are difficult to get working08:01
rehmanDoes any body know how to configure konqueror? not browsing.08:02
Rieshrehman: not browsing? ...08:03
rehmanReish: yes08:03
Rieshrehman: what do you mean with that question ? ... Konqueror is for browsing ... webbrowsing or filebrowsing08:04
rehmanRiesh: Web browsing. But there is an interesting thing.08:05
rehmanRiesh: it changes the icon in the address bar according to the web address given.08:08
Rieshrehman: ? .., do you have many bookmarks in konqueror? ... i mean which you might want to backup? ...08:09
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Rieshrehman: because you can try to remove the ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror directory ... and let it be made newly when you start up konqueror again.08:11
Rieshalthough i not really know if the bookmarks are in that directory08:12
rehmanRiesh: ok I try08:12
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radamanthysalguien de morelia08:19
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aotianlonghi08:47
rehmanhi08:53
Act1hello08:55
Act1cant look open pages in Opera but in Konqueror ok08:55
rehmani thing every is gone.09:06
nickolashow do i view pdf files on my archos 605 wifi?09:09
nickolasnevermind i figured it out09:09
kalidarhi09:10
kalidardoes anyone know of a good mirc script?09:11
kalidarfor kubuntu aside from xchat?09:11
kalidarperhaps something with fserv capability?09:11
nickolasuhm. konversation09:12
nickolas?09:12
kalidaralso is their any way i can change the name of my distrobution? so it comes up different?09:12
kalidarsry nick thats not help lol09:12
kalidarno09:12
kalidartryed that one09:12
nickolasAt least i try :)09:12
SlimeyPetea mirc script for kubuntu? You mean a mIRC-like application?09:12
kalidarapreaciated ;)09:12
SlimeyPetecos "a mIRC script" is something different ;)09:13
kalidari guess so i just wana fserv lol09:13
SlimeyPetethe "big four" are xchat, pidgin, irssi and konversation. irssi and xchat support scripting and have plenty of scripts available on the internet.09:13
SlimeyPetehttp://scripts.irssi.org/scripts/fserve.pl   <-- for irssi09:14
kalidarok thanks slimey XD09:14
nickolaslol. know any mpeg4 to mp4 converters?09:15
nickolasI need one for my archos :( you have to buy an app for mpeg4's D:09:16
kalidardo you know how you have a script for xchat aswell?09:16
kalidarhow do i install scripts just outa curiosity09:17
Rieshnickolas: not sure what type of mp4's archos wants, but i can make mp4's for my iPod Touch with ffmpeg09:17
altrortlahowto restart xserver?09:17
SlimeyPetealtrortla: press ctrl-alt-backspace09:18
kalidarhow i install script fserve.pl?09:19
SlimeyPetekalidar: there's a channel called #irssi09:20
SlimeyPetelots of irssi users there to help you09:20
SlimeyPeteyou do need to install irssi first, of course! :)09:20
kalidaroh ok thanks slimey09:20
nickolasmpeg4 is mp4 isn't it :O09:21
Rieshnickolas: yes but it is a container format.09:22
nickolasso there not exactly the same09:22
Rieshnickolas: it is just a different name for the same thing ...09:23
nickolasoh09:24
Rieshnickolas: mp4 is the extension which is used for mpeg4 files09:24
nickolasoh09:24
kalidarcould someone send me a step by step documentation on how to install an .tar.gz file please?!!09:24
kalidar<---- total newb09:24
nickolasjust right click extract here or wherever09:25
kalidarthats it???09:25
nickolaswhat are you installing?09:25
kalidardont i have to type .config and untar bleh bleh09:25
kalidarinstalling irssi09:26
kalidarits a irc cliant09:26
nickolaswhat is h.264 format?09:27
kalidaranyone have documentation on how to install a tar.gz file ??09:27
nickolasRight click--->extract here--->YOUR DONE!09:28
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nickolasthen it is a tar ball09:28
Rieshkalidar: install from the repositories ... sudo apt-get install irssi09:28
kalidarthanks riesh but i should probably learn to instal source or tar balls shouldent i?09:28
Rieshkalidar: if you do it that way you also need to compile the source09:29
nickolaswell tars are just like debs. really09:29
kalidaris it worth it to learn to install from source? and compile? because thats how you had to install everything when i first tryed linux 5 years ago09:29
nickolaswhat type of file do you get once you extract09:29
nickolashaha09:29
Rieshnickolas: no ... in tars are most times source codes ... and in debs are binaries with install scripts09:29
kalidaris linux lazy thesedays and have every possable file lol i havent had to install from source yet!09:29
nickolas!09:30
kalidaraww ic ic!09:30
kalidarso ither its a .deb or a .tar?09:30
kalidartwo different types of install?09:30
Rieshthe easy way and the save way is to use apt-get ...09:30
beatzzgood morning everyone09:30
Rieshthen you are sure when there are updates your software will also get the updates09:31
kalidarok thanks XD verry helpfull09:31
kalidarone last final question?09:31
kalidaris their anyway to constantly have a shell open on my desktop as a widget?09:31
kalidartired of opening konsole all the time lol09:31
nickolashow do i convert a mp4 to a .avi in vlc09:31
nickolasnm every time i ask you guys sumtn i figure it out on my own :)09:32
Rieshkalidar: you can install yakuake ... it is a shell like the Quake shell ... opens with F12 .. and slides down from the top09:32
beatzznickolas: :)09:32
kalidaroh cool so thats apt-get install yakuake? and whats quake shell is that better?09:33
beatzzsudo apt-get install yakuake09:33
Rieshkalidar: you know the game Quake ? :-)09:33
beatzzkalidar: sudo apt-get install yakuake09:33
kalidaraww ok i getcha09:33
kalidarlol thats prety cool09:33
RieshYes :-)09:34
kalidari realy like the apt get system09:34
kalidarso convien09:34
beatzzyea, its hella nicer than others09:34
beatzzu should give slackpkg a try09:34
beatzz:x09:34
beatzzyou'09:34
kalidarwhats slackpkg?09:34
beatzzyou'll really apreciate apt-get then09:35
beatzzslackware's pkg manager09:35
beatzzslackware = oldest runnin distro linux09:35
beatzzoldest, currently maintained*09:35
kalidari thought slackware was a operatirateing system for l33tz who speek binary lol09:35
kalidarso i hear09:36
kalidari installed yakuake and hit f12 and nothing happen :(09:36
beatzzbasicaly09:36
beatzzI tryed yet again to merge to it last weekend....09:36
beatzzneedless to say im back to *ubuntu09:36
Rieshkalidar: you first have to start it :-)09:37
kalidaraww09:37
altrortlaxserver won't start... or better it try to start but comes back to text mode09:37
Rieshafter that it will autostart09:37
kalidaroh btw anyone know of a cool bootloader the kubuntu bootloader puts me to sleep i like the fedora one better09:37
kalidaranyone know of a nice graphical bootloader and somewhat easy to install?09:37
kalidaryakuake is awesome!09:38
Rieshkalidar: it is just a grub menu in Fedora and OpenSuse ... I agree with you grub menu can be made much nicer in (k)ubuntu09:39
beatzzlike a graphical grub or lilo?09:39
beatzzI only see grub for like 2 seconds when I start up.09:39
kalidaroh btw i tryed to change a .lst file in my grub bootloader the other day and said i dident have permission anyway to log in as root?09:39
Rieshkalidar: to change system files you need to have admin rights ... this you get by usung sudo09:40
kalidari figure sence im using a system where absolutly everything is customizeable why not change things :)09:40
altrortlain few words ... i have tryied to install a new graphic card (Ati) ... but to many problem and i'd like to comes back to my old (Nvidia)... before i have started to install new device i have done xorg.conf backup with Nvidia setting... but now also if I copy Xorg.conf with the old backup ... kubuntu start in text mode09:40
altrortlaI need support to reinstall video card09:41
kalidarok so sudo whats that mean?09:41
altrortlaand monitor09:41
kalidari have to type that all the time09:41
beatzzkalidar: sudo = switch user do09:41
Rieshsudo is do as su :-)09:41
Riesh:-P09:41
beatzzthats what i said09:41
fliegenderfroschkalidar: basically it means executing the following command with administator rights09:41
beatzzRiesh: man su09:41
beatzzsu = switch user09:42
altrortlaumm09:42
kalidaraww ok so if i type sudo befor anything ittel ask me for root pass and ill have acess?09:42
altrortla#ubuntu09:42
beatzzyup for that command only09:42
kalidarso inorder to acess a file in .lib or any other protected areas i gota acess them from terminal by using sudo?09:42
beatzzcorrect09:43
kalidarfor instanstance sudo /lib/menu.lst?09:43
beatzzkalidar: sudo kate /lib/menu.lst09:43
kalidarallright verry helpfull :)09:43
beatzzor09:43
kalidari could keep you guys talking all night09:43
beatzzkalidar: sudo pico /lib/menu.lst09:43
kalidarwhats kate?09:43
beatzztext editor09:43
beatzzgraphical09:43
kalidaraww kk09:43
beatzzpico is command line09:43
beatzzvi is an old school command line09:43
Rieshkalidar: or nano :-)09:44
kalidarso what ever i type it runs hence apt-get is a program i take it?09:44
beatzznano is a good one09:44
fliegenderfroschon the command line, should i use vim or emacs? :P09:44
beatzzvim09:44
beatzz;)09:44
kalidarand when you say install your asking apt-get to find the install for that program?09:44
RieshWhen using nano the ^ means use CTRL09:44
kalidark XD09:44
beatzzxactly09:44
kalidarwhats nano?09:44
kalidarsry09:44
Rieshhehehe09:44
Rieshtext editor for command line09:45
beatzzinstall is an option, passed to the program apt-get, which requires root privlages09:45
beatzz:D so yea u get it09:45
kalidarweird! i type nano and my konsol changed09:45
kalidarthanks beatz that explains it perfictly09:45
Rieshkalidar: then you open the program nano09:46
kalidarso are all these programs in my repositorys or are they downloading them when i ask to install them?09:46
kalidarok09:46
fliegenderfroschkalidar: both09:46
altrortla!nvidia09:47
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:47
kalidaroh btw whats ^ mean again09:47
fliegenderfroschkalidar: they’re packages in the ubuntu repository and when you install them, they are downloaded and installed09:47
kalidarsomeone said it lol09:47
RieshCTRL09:47
kalidarok i compleetly understand now :)09:47
kalidarany other shell commands i should get comphterble with guys?09:47
beatzzkalidar: http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/toc.html09:47
beatzzbookmark that one09:47
Rieshkalidar: apt-cache search09:47
kalidarwhy apt-cache search?09:48
beatzzbrb all09:48
Rieshtype in console apt-cache search browser and you see what it does09:48
Rieshor apt-cache search mp309:49
Rieshor apt-cache search flash09:49
kalidarsays i need a pattern?09:49
Rieshyes ... a search pattern09:49
Rieshanything you want to search for in the package cache09:49
kalidaraww ic ic leme test09:50
Rieshapt-cache search Something09:50
xp-killerim not seing my option in my browser anymore09:51
kalidaroh i cant find xmms in apt-get :(09:51
kalidarthat blows xmms is best player09:51
xp-killerback ,previous google bar09:51
kalidarits like winamp09:51
beatzzI installed kuakye09:51
beatzzor w/e09:51
Rieshkalidar: maybe because that one is too old09:51
beatzzand rebooted09:51
beatzzno F12 shell09:51
beatzz:/09:51
kalidarkayuke?09:51
kalidarthe quake shell?09:51
beatzzyea09:51
fliegenderfroschkalidar: it’s xmms209:51
kalidarrun it09:51
kalidarfirst09:51
kalidarthen set the key you want to quickkey it to09:51
beatzzneeded to see how to spell it09:52
kalidarits under utils or settings i cant rember09:52
beatzzthanks m8 :)09:52
kalidarnp its awesome now whenever you want shell its just f12 XD riesh showed me it09:52
beatzzhmm09:52
fliegenderfrosch!enter | kalidar09:53
ubottukalidar: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:53
beatzzyou just typed 'kayuke' to run the program09:53
xp-killercan someone help me to put back my konqueror browser how it was?it missing some stuff.lika back,next and my google bar09:53
kalidaroops sorry09:53
kalidargot yelled at.09:53
beatzzlol, i do that same thing all the time, its a terrible habbit.09:53
Rieshbeatzz: ... yakuake09:53
beatzzRiesh: thanks09:53
kalidarlol09:54
Rieshbeatzz: yeah i know ... terrible name :-)09:54
beatzzhey that is prety nifty09:54
kalidari know hey!09:55
kalidarcache search flash heh?09:56
Rieshapt-cache09:56
beatzzkalidar: you wouldent happen to be a WoW player would you?09:56
kalidari wish i woulda known that 4 days ago riesh!! you have any idea how hard it was to get flash installed!!!09:56
fliegenderfroschxp-killer: if you have no important settings/bookmarks, you could just try deleting ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror09:56
kalidarwhat makes you say that beatzz09:56
beatzzi just wrote a tutorial how to get it up on linux.09:56
beatzzjust curious09:56
kalidarrealy!!09:57
kalidardude how did you figure that one out!09:57
kalidari wana get Windslayer by outspart to play on linux09:57
beatzzmy friend wanted to see it done yesterday, and I actualy got it all working. so i wrote a tutorial.09:57
kalidarits a 2d side scroller09:57
kalidardude thats sick09:57
kalidarwish i played wow lol09:57
kalidarmaby ittel work for windslayer?? its also a online mmorpg09:58
beatzzI dont play it myself, but im looking forward to seeing someone use my tutorials :)09:58
kalidardoes it involve a windows emulator?09:58
beatzzyea09:58
fliegenderfroschbeatzz: i hope you don’t mean wine09:58
kalidari tryed wine but it blowz cuz it dosent support my soundcard09:58
beatzzhas a step by step to get the lastest and greatest... WINE09:58
beatzzmuahah!09:58
beatzzwhats wronge w/ wine?09:59
fliegenderfroschbeatzz: Wine Is Not an Emulator09:59
kalidarwine sucks!! i couldent even install framework.net on windows09:59
kalidarand without framework.net you cant do anything lol09:59
beatzzfliegenderfrosch: are u shure?09:59
fliegenderfroschbeatzz: nothing is wrong, but I guess the devs are not very happy if you call it a windows emulator09:59
fliegenderfroschbeatzz: that’s what the name WINE stands for09:59
beatzzcause when i downloaded it from the "add/remove" it says "windows emulator" right next to wine09:59
kalidarwell.. do you know of a emulator that has enuph dll files and framework to play games!?09:59
kde4plzhey...10:00
xp-killerfliegenderfrosch: i have to many book marks im not seing the back and next button neither the space for google10:00
beatzznope, i aint that knowladgeable10:00
kalidarfliegenderfrosch!!10:00
beatzzbut i know i got WoW to work on Wine10:00
beatzz:)10:00
kalidarlol i couldent even fix my sound wine broke my sounddriver lolz10:01
kalidarhad to restart computer after i uninstalled it10:01
kde4plzhow do update my old kde 3 to 4?10:01
kalidarkde4plz10:01
fliegenderfroschxp-killer: try a rightclick in the empty space right of the menu and activate a few toolbars10:01
kde4plz?10:01
kalidarnvm i dont wana answer wrong lol10:01
kalidarbut ide say download the new kubunutu and instal it10:02
kalidarbut upgrade10:02
kalidardont format10:02
fliegenderfroschkde4plz: which kubuntu version do you have?10:02
kde4plzi just wanna upgrade10:02
kalidari have 4.110:02
kde4plzlol i have like 3.510:02
beatzzpersonaly, i think KDE4 sux.10:02
kde4plzi somehow lost the bar on the bottom of me desktop10:02
fliegenderfroschkde4plz: i mean the version of kubuntu, not of kde, like 7.10, 8.04, 8.10....10:02
kalidarfliegenderfrosch sence u were ripping on wine do you know a better emulator?10:02
kde4plzoh...10:02
beatzzall the widgets, and stupid clear boxes that pop up around everything10:03
beatzzthey made it look like vista.10:03
beatzzand feel10:03
beatzz@_@10:03
kde4plzits been a while so im not sure.. i gave up on kde and stayed with gnome..10:03
SlimeyPeteand it's buggy as hell10:03
kalidarbeatzz i like kde 4.1 its way easier and looks better too i think10:03
beatzzyea, and KDE4 is buggy as hell10:03
fliegenderfroschkalidar: i wasn’t ripping on wine, i just said that it’s not really an emulator, as its name says that wine is not an emulator10:03
kalidarlol10:03
kalidaroh my bad :(10:03
kalidarwell do you know of a better one cuz i dont like wine10:04
beatzzShame on you kalidar !!!!10:04
beatzz:o10:04
dwidmannfliegenderfrosch: wine really isn't an emulator, it's a blind attempt at reverse engineering the windows API.10:04
fliegenderfroschkde4plz: can you run "lsb_release -a" in a console and write which codename it has?10:04
kde4plzill rather not use wine... why won't they make games for linux nativity..10:04
fliegenderfroschdwidmann: i know10:04
beatzzcause they are $ greedy pigs10:04
kalidaryeah if thye make games for linux that means they gota be free10:05
beatzzand if they cant draw up a contract worth millions...10:05
kalidaror at the verry least open source10:05
beatzzthey arent gana develope the game10:05
kde4plzlol it says ubuntu 7.1010:05
kalidarshould say ubuntu 8.1010:05
kalidar;)10:05
kde4plzthats because i never started with kubuntu....10:05
beatzzwell Im off all, peace nice talkin to u all.10:05
kde4plzand i haven't updated to 8.1010:05
kalidarkubuntu is better lol gnome is so plain :S zzzzzzzz10:06
kalidarnight beatz10:06
kde4plzwell i guess10:06
kalidarlike the foot tho.. ok so yeah im gona take off too10:06
fliegenderfroschkde4plz: i don’t think there are any recent kde4 packages for ubuntu 7.10. for kde4 I think it’s best to upgrade to 8.10 or reinstall with 8.10 directly,10:06
kde4plzthats why im trying to use it...10:06
kalidari was just wondering if anyone knows of an actual emulator10:06
kde4plzi see....10:07
kalidaris wine the only attempt at an emulator?10:07
kde4plzalright when i get to it ill update to 8.1010:07
kde4plzthey got the commecial one10:07
kde4plzstarts with a c10:07
kde4plzcel10:07
kde4plzsomthing10:07
kalidari have the newest on my ftp server if u want10:07
kalidaryoull probs get it faster with a .torrent tho10:08
kde4plznewest ubuntu?10:08
fliegenderfroschkalidar: I think the only real alternative would be using a virtual machine, but this is probably slow and I don’t know if there’s 3d support yet.10:08
kde4plzyea ill dl it at school10:08
kde4plzt1 connects ftw10:08
kalidarvirtual machine???10:08
fliegenderfroschkde4plz: the newest ubuntu version is 8.10, however, in a month the new version 9.04 is released10:08
kde4plz....10:08
kde4plzjeez10:08
kalidarnew systems are usualy buggy10:08
kde4plzits been a while since i used linux10:08
kalidari usualy wate10:08
dwidmannI don't think there's 3d support yet, or there would have been a lot of chatter about it10:08
kalidara month or so10:08
fliegenderfroschkde4plz: you’re thinking of cedega, which may work better for a few games but is actually just a customized wine10:09
kde4plzyep thats it flie...10:09
kalidarcedega? is that the best emu rite now?10:09
kde4plzfor games it has better support i think10:09
kalidarok ill download it10:09
dwidmannSome things will run better in it and some won't10:09
kalidarsudo apt-get install cedega?10:10
kde4plztry both wine and cedega10:10
dwidmannand it has a monthly fee or some such10:10
fliegenderfroschdwidmann: it’s coming slowly, see http://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_vidsound_d3d_enabling_vm.html10:10
dwidmannfliegenderfrosch: keep in mind vmware workstation isn't free10:10
kalidarcedega has a montly fee?10:10
kalidaroh vm10:10
kde4plzlol im just gonna wait till new ubuntu comes.. then update.. don't wanna update again in a month10:10
kalidarweak sauce10:10
kde4plzif u got tons of ram...10:11
kde4plzgo for vmware10:11
kde4plz...10:11
kde4plzor just dual boot..10:11
kalidaroh how would i install a script.pl into irssi anyone know?10:11
fliegenderfroschdwidmann: I know, I’m just saying that 3d acceleration is coming to virtual machines slowly10:11
kalidari hate leaving my linux tho :( im like raceast against windows sence ive learned even the basics of linux10:11
dwidmann"This line increases the amount of VRAM on the virtual display card to 64 MB. Adding more VRAM helps to reduce thrashing in the guest. The maximum value is 128 MB." awfully limited... mine has 1GB10:11
kde4plzwell if your gonna vmware its the same stuff basically...10:12
fliegenderfroschkde4plz: if you don’t need a rock solid system, you cold also install 9.04 now. the beta is supposed to come out tomorrow10:12
kde4plz:0 betas make my computer sad10:13
kde4plzand black screen10:13
kde4plzbut i will google to see new features...10:14
kde4plzmost times updates are just new packages...10:14
kalidarwhats that one called again?10:15
kalidarcheeta10:15
kalidarchaeda or something10:15
kalidarima download it and test it out10:15
fliegenderfroschkalidar: you mean the codename of 9.04? jaunty jackalope10:15
kde4plzthe emulator?10:15
kde4plzoh10:15
kalidari have no idea what that means flie lol10:16
kalidaryeah the emulator like wine10:16
kalidarbut better10:16
fliegenderfroschkalidar: you mean cedega10:16
kde4plzyea10:16
kalidarthats it XD10:16
kde4plz;0 scroll up your chat...10:16
fliegenderfroschkalidar: by the way: you can scoll up if you’ve forgotten something10:16
kde4plzlol10:16
kalidarlol10:16
kalidarbeen a while ago10:17
kalidarwas lazy10:17
kalidar:P10:17
kde4plzi said first but you like type it all out and be fancy10:17
kde4plzflie is very formal10:17
fliegenderfroschkde4plz: btw: you can use the tabulator key for autocompletion of the usernames :)10:17
kalidarcouldent find package cedega10:18
kde4plzfliegenderfrosch: omg!!10:18
SlimeyPeteyou have to pay for cedega. It's not in apt.10:18
kde4plzyour using pidgin? or is this built in to kde?10:18
SlimeyPeteat least, it's not in the regular repos.10:18
kde4plzor kubuntu10:18
SlimeyPetekde4plz: erm, it's built into every IRc client ever :)10:18
kalidarpidgin?10:18
kalidarwhats pidgin10:18
kde4plzits instant messenger10:18
fliegenderfroschkde4plz: most chat programs support it, i’m using konversation. fascinating, isn’t it?10:18
kde4plzhas support for AIM MSN ircs and stuff10:19
fliegenderfrosch!pidgin | kalidar10:19
ubottukalidar: The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete10:19
kde4plzman i feel like a noob10:19
kalidar!pidgin10:19
kde4plzthanks for enlightening me... now i can be more proper...10:19
kde4plzthough i do not use right caps or periods..10:20
kde4plzi can write your names out fully10:20
kalidar!pidgin kde4plz10:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pidgin kde4plz10:20
kalidarlol god im stupid10:23
dwidmannkalidar: fliegenderfrosch already did that, scroll up a few lines10:23
kde4plzwe can help point out how we are all stupid... so we become smarter10:23
kalidari just installed irssi irc cliant and i cant find it10:23
lokai!sound10:23
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:23
dwidmannkalidar: pull up a terminal and run it10:23
kalidarif i knew where it was lol10:23
kalidaror what it was called.10:23
kde4plzhow do i get like a real task bar....10:23
kalidari just apt installed irssi ive no idea where it went10:23
dwidmannkalidar: /usr/bin/irsII10:23
gabrielgomezanyone know if opensync synce is going to work in Jaunty ?10:23
kalidartask thanks dwidmann10:23
dwidmannerm, meant ircII10:23
kalidarkk10:23
kde4plzi can't find kcontrol anywhere..10:23
Rieshdwidmann: thats ircii .. this is irssi10:23
kalidarno such directory10:23
dwidmannoh, that would explain a few things, silly dustin10:24
kalidarfound it XD10:24
dwidmannriesh is correct ... I must have typod last night, no wonder that through me for a loop10:24
kalidarhow did you know it would end up in /usr/bin is that where all files go?10:24
kalidarafter u install them10:24
kalidarkinda like program files for windows?10:24
dwidmannkalidar: generally10:24
kalidarill have to rember that10:25
dwidmannsystem stuff will go in /bin or /sbin or /usr/sbin10:25
kde4plzman i want amarok 2.*10:26
lokaisuddenly sound doesnt work on flash video. The system sounds still work fine, though. Is this a firefox issue?10:26
kde4plzi gotta update :(10:26
Rieshkalidar: i just see there is also an irssi-scripts package10:26
kde4plzi think its your flash player lokai...10:27
fliegenderfroschlokai: it can be related to pulseaudio. there are often problems if another program with sound is in use10:27
lokaifliegenderfrosch: This isnt the case10:27
dwidmanntypos and tab completion are a volatile mixture it seems ... :(10:27
kalidaryes riesh10:28
fliegenderfroschlokai: is suddenly=after an update or after a reboot or while using the computer?10:28
RieshSo maybe your fserv script is included :-)10:28
kalidarwhere are the scripts?10:28
kalidarawesome XD i found a fserv script10:28
Rieshyou installed that package too ?10:28
kalidari just dunno how to intall it10:28
dwidmannkde4plz: amarok 2 really doesn't have anything that amarok 1.x doesn't have yet though.10:28
lokaiHard to say. I don't use flash video very often on this machine, so I don't remember when the last time it worked was (I do remember that it DID work).10:28
kalidari watch alot of anime on www.imeem.com look up death note 1 and watch the english ;)10:29
fliegenderfroschlokai: and it doesn’t work if you try directly after a reboot either?10:29
kalidarits like the best anime ive ever seen10:29
kde4plzi just like the gui of amarok 2.. or i just want to see how it looks10:29
kalidarhey riesh?10:29
lokaiah, it was firefox -- Silly addons wanting to be updated O.o10:29
Rieshyes?10:29
kalidari cant load my irssi outa my usr/bin folder10:30
kalidarhow do i open a folder in adm mode like sudo10:30
kalidarcuz i cant find the link in my application folders for some reason after i installed it10:30
Rieshopen it in a termianl / console10:30
fliegenderfroschkalidar: you can’t just run "irssi"?10:30
Rieshterminal*10:31
kalidarno its not in my application list so i went to /usr/bin and tryed to run it but it wont do anything10:31
kalidarso i figure its my privilages preventing me rite?10:31
Rieshjust type irssi10:31
fliegenderfroschkalidar: what happens if you just type "irssi" in a terminal and press enter?10:31
Rieshrun dpkg -L irssi-scripts to see where the scripts go10:31
Riesh:-) ... have to go now10:31
kalidarwould that work?10:31
kalidarjust type the filename?10:31
kalidarok bye riesh!10:32
Rieshjust run irssi10:32
Riesh:-)10:32
dwidmannkalidar: that works for anything in your $PATH :)10:32
kalidarawesome!10:32
kalidarumm i typed irssi10:34
kalidarin the shell and it brings up a weird blue bar and it says status at the bottem10:35
kalidari dont understand10:35
fliegenderfroschkalidar: this is irssi. irssi is a irc client for the console, so you use it with text commands only10:35
kalidaroh geez10:35
kalidarim so confused all it says is status how do i make it do stuff?10:36
fliegenderfroschkalidar: see http://www.irssi.org/documentation for help10:36
kalidarthanks alot man10:36
kalidarill check it out10:36
kalidarwow holey complicated!10:38
kde4plzlol10:38
kalidarhow does anyone use this lol altho im intreagued and wont give up10:38
kde4plzim sticking to pidgin10:38
kalidarill have it masterd in a week lol but i was wondering if someone could tell me how i could connect to this room on it?10:39
kde4plzi found this in the documentation10:39
kde4plz/NETWORK ADD -autosendcmd "/^msg nickserv ident pass;wait 2000" OFTC10:39
kde4plzthats to add servers10:39
kalidaryes im looking at that rite now10:40
kalidarhow do i add this room tho10:40
kalidarwhats the nickserv and ident here10:40
kde4plz /SERVER ADD -auto -network IRCnet irc.kpnqwest.fi 666710:41
kde4plzi don't think u need the network..10:41
kde4plzjust change it to like10:41
kalidaryr prety smart their ;)10:42
kalidaryeah it saved correctley10:42
kalidarjust gona read the help and find out how to connect :)10:42
stevem_Under an official Canonical support package... which Ubuntu editions are supportable?10:43
kde4plzkalidar im dling this beast of an irc... now.. i think i can rush you through it...10:45
kde4plzkalidar: it has a built in help10:46
kde4plzjust type /help <topic>10:46
kde4plz /help connect10:46
kde4plz /SERVER ADD -auto -network freenode irc.freenode.net 6667C10:49
kde4plzthats how i added freenode...10:49
kalidarthanks alot man XD10:50
kalidaroh btw how do i see a list of my added networks10:51
kalidarich i stil cant figure out how to connect10:53
kalidarwhy is this so confuseing god i hate script language10:53
nguyenhey10:56
nguyenthis is kde4plz im here to tease kalidar because you can't connect using irssi and i can :010:57
kde4plzlol10:57
kde4plzits pretty easy kalidar10:57
kde4plzill show you how i did it...10:57
kde4plzfirst i read the documention....10:58
kde4plzthen /help connect10:58
kde4plz /help network too10:58
eli_hi guys - i need some help with mounting external hd.10:58
kalidaranyone know how i change my name by typeing /nickserv or something11:01
kalidarcant rember11:01
kde4plz/NETWORK ADD -autosendcmd "/^msg nickserv ident pass;wait 2000" OFTC11:01
kde4plzthats in irssi11:01
spathi_Здрасти11:01
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kalidarsays name or service not know11:01
kalidarhow do i make my name lol11:02
kalidarmaby i shouldent be using this i dont think i have the intellegence11:02
kde4plzusing what?11:02
kalidarirssi11:02
kde4plzoh..11:02
kalidarits all commands11:02
kalidarand i have a bad memory11:02
kde4plzonce u get in.. its just like any other irc...11:02
kalidarok then how i change my name and password11:03
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kalidarit says name or service not known11:03
kde4plzhow did you change it to kalidar11:03
kalidari push buttens on xchat lol11:03
kalidarbut irssi dosent have luxuarys of buttens lol11:03
kalidarits like /CHangenick11:04
kalidaror osmething11:04
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kde3plzhi11:05
kde4plzits just11:06
kde4plz"/nick11:06
eli__sorry got logged out11:06
kde4plzwithout "11:06
kalidaroh11:06
kde4plzhttp://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html#quickstart11:06
kde4plzread this11:06
kalidarich i give up11:06
kde4plzit will help you a lot11:06
kalidarmy brain herts ill try later11:07
kde4plzdon't give up..11:07
kalidarwell the help files tell me only crap i dont need11:07
kalidarlike how to customize and change auto joins and stuff11:07
kde4plzlol11:07
kalidarwhen all i wana do is test it out by connecting to a channel11:07
kde4plzlol11:07
kalidarbut it dosent tell you the simple stuff like how to connect to a damn network11:07
kalidarlol11:07
kde4plz...11:07
kde4plzdo this11:08
kde4plz /NETWORK ADD11:08
kalidark11:08
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kde3plzexit11:09
kalidarnetwork exit saved11:09
kde4plzwoops11:09
kalidarnetwork exit saved11:09
kde4plz /NETWORK ADD freenode11:09
kalidarnetwork saved11:10
kde4plz /SERVER ADD -auto -network freenode irc.freenode.net 666711:10
kalidaraww i get it11:11
kalidarok saved11:11
kde4plzdo11:11
kalidarnow /connect Freenode wich has the irc.freenode.net in it?11:11
kde4plzyea11:12
kde4plzdo /join #kubuntu to get here11:12
kalidarman wtf thats so simple11:12
kalidari even understand how the code works11:12
kde4plzyea...11:12
kde4plzlol11:12
kalidarwhy is it that when i read the help file i wanted to smash my head against my monitor11:12
kalidarlol thanks man you made that so much simpler11:12
kde4plzlol...11:12
kalidar_hi11:13
kde4plzyay u did it11:13
kalidar_XD11:13
kde4plzhi...11:13
kde4plz /exit to leave11:13
kalidar_i have 2 irc cliants open mad lag from one to the other11:13
kalidar_heem so this is it?11:13
kalidar_!pengin11:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pengin11:14
kalidar_!lis11:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lis11:14
kalidar_!list11:14
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »11:14
kalidar_lol!11:14
kde4plzpengin?11:14
kde4plzu mean pidgin?11:14
kalidar_yeah11:14
kalidar_!pidgin11:14
ubottuThe Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete11:14
kde4plzdo...11:14
kalidar_aww kk nvm11:14
kde4plzsudo apt-get install pidgin11:14
eli__!fdisk11:15
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fdisk11:15
eli__!fsck11:15
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot11:15
kalidar_so is pidgin build into irc?11:15
kde4plzpidgin is just like xfire...11:15
kalidar_xfire the game loger?11:15
kde4plzlol11:15
kde4plzits just a messenger..11:15
kalidar_thats what i used it for lol11:15
kalidar_aww i have amsn11:16
kalidar_im fine11:16
kalidar_lol11:16
kalidar_say..11:16
kde4plzgoogle pidgin if you want to know more11:16
kalidar_you know of any good linux games?11:16
kde4plzthere is... tuxracer..11:16
kde4plz;011:16
kalidar_lmfao11:16
kalidar_im good thanks tho11:16
bazhang!games11:16
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php11:16
kalidar_thanks for the games11:17
kalidar_;)11:17
kde4plzfrozen bubble :011:17
kde4plzits a good one11:17
kde4plzxmoto is good too ;011:18
kalidar_oh yeah befor i go kde11:18
kalidar_do you know how i install scripts on this badboy11:18
kalidar_?11:18
kde4plzwhat do you mean?11:18
kalidar_i have a script.pl file11:18
kalidar_like how do i install my fserv script11:18
kalidar_like you do with normal irc11:18
kde4plzread the documentation ;011:18
kalidar_oh nvm i thought maby you knew a fast way11:18
kalidar_lol11:19
kalidar_sry man11:19
kalidar_here i thought u were the smart one too pfft11:19
kalidar_:P11:19
kalidar_anyway im probs anoying everyone so ima take off thanks for all the help :)11:19
kalidar_cheers11:19
outtrafficуцауы11:25
eli__i need some help with mounting external hard disk11:25
kde4plztype man mount in terminal11:27
eli__kde4plz: it's more complicated - the device is not recognized11:28
kde4plzoh11:28
eli__I can see it on the dmesg, but the /dev/sdb is not recognized11:29
eli__i can't find anything on such a case in forums :(11:30
eli__can i force the system to create a new device?11:31
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kde4plzwhats the external drive called?11:32
Riesheli__: can you so "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb"11:33
kanon-mat  /dev/sdb1 perhaps?11:33
kanon-matusually there is a number11:34
eli__Riesh: returns nothing11:35
noukist_!gr11:35
ubottu#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes11:35
eli__how can i post the relevant syslog?11:35
Riesheli__: but you say it is recognized ... you see it when running dmesg11:35
Rieshpaste.ubuntu.com11:36
Riesh!paste11:36
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:36
eli__it's here http://paste.ubuntu.com/137427/11:36
Riesheli__: looks normal to me11:37
Rieshyou know what filesystem is on the drive ?11:38
Rieshwhich partitions ?11:38
eli__i can't see anything on sdb11:38
eli__it's ext3, but it might be corrupted11:39
Rieshsudo -i11:39
Rieshso you are root ...11:39
ZmAYhaving some problems installing motif, Xm libraries, can someone help me, when compiling program getting this for example: error: Xm/PushB.h: No such file or directory11:39
Rieshfdisk -l /dev/sdb11:39
Rieshshould give some output11:40
eli__nothing11:40
Rieshthen just fdisk /dev/sdb11:41
eli__unable to open /dev/sdb11:41
Rieshmaybe the cable is not good anymore ... you have external power for the drive ?11:42
eli__no11:42
Rieshcable with an extra usb plug for more power ?11:43
eli__it's a laptop hd, i can't see any external power entry11:43
eli__nope, this one is all i've got11:43
Rieshi also have here an external laptop disk ... but when i got it the case came with a cable with two usb plugs at one end11:44
Rieshone for extra power11:44
eli__this is the lsusb output11:45
eli__http://paste.ubuntu.com/137436/11:46
ZmAYwho is here for Xm, Xt, X11 ?:)11:46
Riesheli__: not really seeing your disk there11:47
eli__it's a usb connector type that's listed11:48
eli__i've disconnected and reconnected the disk11:48
eli__i'm attaching the dmesg output11:48
Rieshaha .. ok ... which version of kubuntu you have ?11:49
eli__8.1011:49
eli__there is the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/137438/11:49
eli__it's x64 if it matteres11:49
Rieshmight be a kernel bug ... unplug your disk ->  rmmod ehci-hcd -> and try again11:51
eli__ok, just to be sure: 1) unplug 2) rmmod ehci-hcd 3) plug in?11:52
Rieshyes11:52
costellohi all11:52
Rieshuse sudo for rmmod11:52
costellowho have drivers for ASUS F3sg  for Ubuntu?11:53
pisplease can i know whats going on11:55
eli__still no effect, the updated dmesg attached at http://paste.ubuntu.com/137443/11:55
eli__no need for sudo - i'm still using the root konsole11:56
Rieshaha ... but now it sees the partitions ... sdb1 sdb2 < sdb5 >11:57
eli__just for a moment11:57
eli__there is no sdb device at /dev11:57
Rieshfdisk again gives no notion of them ?11:57
eli__there is the output of fdisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/137448/11:59
eli__only sda is recognized, no sdb :(11:59
Rieshstrange ... i don't have any ideas what to experiment with12:00
Rieshnext12:00
kalidarhi12:02
kalidarXD12:02
eli__it's even starnger - look on the updated dmesg: paste.ubuntu.com/137451/12:02
eli__u can see it attampted to read the sdb - and still no traces of it in the /dev12:02
dr_willisHmm. i had issues once when i installed via a 'thumbdrive' installer - that it made  the /etc/fstab  have an extra entry that made  sdb the 'cdrom' by mistake.  so the first thimbdrive i plugged in - dident get seen properly. but the 2nd one die.12:03
dr_willissounds almost like one 'part' of that cable may not be working right. or its not getting enough power to work propely12:03
dr_willisI found out the hard way to use those 2 headed usb cables..12:03
eli__i only have one headed cable12:04
dr_willisdident come with a 2 headed cable eh?12:04
eli__nope, i borrowed this one from a friend, and he only had a one-headed one12:05
eli__i'm just trying to see if there is something i can still rescue from this old laptop HD12:06
bderagonhey guys12:06
dr_willisthis is a small -laptop sized external usb hard drive we are talking about?12:06
eli__exactly12:06
dr_willisself powered by the usb port - correct? no external powersupply12:06
eli__still correct12:06
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dr_willisi woudl try a external powered usb hub - and see if that helps it out. You do hear it spin up?12:07
bderagonhoping someone can help me here, been working in windows for 10+ years and decided to join the linux group last night after visual studio's install corrupted for the third time in 3 months12:07
eli__i can hear it spinning12:07
bderagontried to install kubuntu on my machine, it appears to have installed, but never starts, all I get is a black screen12:07
bderagonand I can no longer boot into windows12:07
eli__does grub show up?12:08
bderagonI don't know...pretty much anything....about linux installs12:08
bderagongrub?12:08
bderagonthat's the boot client for it?12:08
Rieshbderagon: after BIOS12:08
bderagonno, it doesn't12:08
dr_willisyou dont see any boot menu at the beginning?12:08
bderagonif I don't boot off the cd, all I get is a black screen12:08
bderagonthat never goes away, no error message, no boot menu, no nothing12:09
bderagonif I insert the kubuntu cd, I get the cd's menu12:09
dr_willisYou dont have more  hen 1 monitor installed? or any other odd video setup?12:09
bderagonI have a video card that has two video outputs, but only one monitor is currently hooked to it12:09
eli__did u get any error messages during the installation process?12:10
bderagontried switching it between both outputs12:10
bderagonvarious small ones, something like processor scaling not supported by bios12:10
bderagonand net_dif not found12:10
dr_willisI had an odd setup where it defauilted to my tv out once.12:10
bderagonbut it seemed to continue no problem12:10
bderagonshould I be doing this from my onboard video card? and just forget the ati video card I have until after kubuntu is installed?12:11
dr_willisonboard? and a addon .. hmmmm....12:11
dr_willisthat may be the issue12:11
dr_willisi always disable the onboard in the bios. if possible12:12
bderagonwell, its a toggle in my bios, if I enable the add-on, onboard gets disabled automatically12:12
dr_willisguess you could try removeing the addon.  as a test.. getting a little hardcore here.12:12
dr_willisbut im not sure what else to try12:12
dr_willisif grub isent even giving you an error message or any output - a little hard to troubleshoot12:12
bderagonis there a way to see more than the progress bar? to see what is going on during the kubuntu install?12:12
bderagonI have 3 partitions, and it never asked me which to install on12:13
bderagonor if I wanted to reformat them, or anything like that12:13
eli__u can make the alternative installation it's textual12:13
dr_williserr... somthing odd there then.. the installer asks lots of questions12:13
bderagonthe progress bar comes up for liek 5 minutes, runs through it12:13
bderagonafter that, it goes to what looks like a dos screen/console output12:13
bderagonand spits back that it loads HAL and a bunch of other stuff ok12:14
bderagonthen I get the black screen, that never goes away12:14
bderagonafter about 10 minutes12:14
eli__did the installation finished at all?12:14
bderagonbut never askes a single question, nothing, the second I select install from the main cd menu, and push enter that's what i get12:14
bderagonthe progress bar, the console/output, then the black screen12:15
bderagonno questions, nothing to inform me that it's installing, just a lot of processor and hard drive activity12:15
eli__try alternative installation, without the gui - it can show some light on what's going on12:15
bderagonI'm not really sure how to tell eli, the progress bar doesn't tell me what it's doing, the console output only tells me what looks like to be the kubuntu kernel/client loading12:15
eli__as much as i've understand your installation didn't finished - it got stalled before the reboot12:16
bderagonok, I can also see if I can dig up a second monitor, and plug them both into the video card at same time12:16
bderagonprobably have one around the house somewhere12:17
Dillizarbderagon what graphic card you have12:17
bderagonwith the dvi out on the video card, it probably doesn't like me switching it live12:17
bderagonati's hd487012:17
Dillizark12:17
dr_willisduring the install - one can  use alt-ctrl-F1 throguh F6 to get to some other info screens also.12:18
bderagonyeah looking at screenshots of the installation pages, and definitely not getting those12:18
dr_williswhat release are you isntalling exactly?12:18
dr_willisand where did the iso/disk come from?12:18
bderagondownloaded directly from kubuntu, the latest x64 release12:19
bderagonburnt the iso to a cd myself, using windows12:20
bderagonbefore I tried the kubuntu install12:20
SlimeyPeteyou're sure you grabbed the amd64 instead of ia64?12:20
dr_willisSo you are using the desktop cd, you get to the desktop and use the installer tool? or installing howq exactly?12:20
bderagonthe amd64 8.10 release12:20
Dillizar8.10? bderagon12:20
dr_willisit should be asking quite a few questions.12:20
bderagonyep the 8.1012:21
bderagonKubuntu 8.10 - Featuring the cutting edge KDE 4 and maintained until April 2010, that one, right from their site12:21
eli__have u checked the sum?12:21
bderagonAthlonTM, SempronTM)   64bit AMD and Intel computers12:21
bderagonyep12:21
bderagonI used the live cd w/installer, so I should download the alternate desktop one? and try that one?12:22
eli__well, u have nothing to loose:)12:22
Dillizarbderagon did you update it12:23
dr_willisi cant imagine how it skipped over the partitioning disk stuff... unless you missclicked12:23
bderagonwill try that then, no didn't run any update dillizar12:23
eli__look at your cd menu - as much as i recall there is an option for alternative install too12:23
bderagonlooking at the installation process, it looks like the entire installation is graphical12:25
bderagonfrom what I can tell, it never even gets to the install, it loads all the "prerequisites" to the install, and never gets there12:25
bderagonor....it does, and its on a monitor I can't see, heading to play with it and see if I can figure stuff out, :) hopefully I'll be back later with a sucess story and asking where to find linux development info :P12:26
bderagonthanks for all the help guys12:26
eli__dr_willis: any ideas on my case?12:32
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dr_williseli__:  not really.  :P12:36
dr_willisif dmesg shows it.. but then /dev/ dont - only time ive sene that is when hard drives are starting to die/or are half dead12:36
eli__long life the new hd:)12:37
Laruftcan anyone link me to some tips about how to maintain a linux install.  to explain, i've installed virtualbox, and now i'm using kvm... virtualbox installed lots of other stuff,  I just don't want to end up with duplicate tools/libraries and stuff not actively used.12:49
bderagonawesome, thanks again guys.....kubuntu now installing :)12:49
LaruftI suppose I need to see how depencies work and package removal12:50
Dillizar!Fbsplash12:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Fbsplash12:52
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flavinhaflavia_flavinha_fafa@hotmail.com12:53
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ratberthow do you install boot splash on kubuntu13:03
ratbertbut its not .13:03
ratbert.so its .tar and there isnt .so inside :(13:03
ardianallow13:10
buk_hello.13:13
buk_can someone please help me with a sound-problem on kubuntu 8.10?13:13
dwidmannbuk_: what sort of sound problem?13:13
buk_dwidmann, i can hear sound when entering/shut-down but no sound at all on amarok/youtube/vlc or any other programms.13:15
dwidmannhmmmm13:16
dwidmannbuk_: go into system settings -> multimedia. What is the highest sound device in the list?13:17
buk_ehm, where is that multimedia thing?13:18
dwidmannShould be near the bottom in system settings13:18
buk_ah, system settings -> sound?13:18
dwidmannhmm, mayhap13:19
dwidmannmight have changed since kde 4.1 (I'm using 4.2)13:19
buk_i go to Device Preference and EVERYTHING has only HDA Intel (Conexant Analog).13:19
buk_then i click "show advanced devices" ant it adds: HDA Intel Connexant Analog (front speakers).13:20
dwidmannHmm, that should be right, I would think13:20
buk_also Connexant Digital13:21
buk_and Connexant IEC958 something13:21
dwidmannTry changing the order around and see if you can get sound that way13:21
dwidmann(only the top one counts really, the rest will just be fallbacks)13:21
buk_ehm, what to put first?13:22
buk_ehm, now i tried to play sth on amarok and said that the KNotify crashed and proposed me to disable aRts sound output.13:24
buk_ehm thanks anyway13:27
roman_!mp313:29
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats13:29
Dillizarhow can i put a weather report on my panel :) 3.5.513:41
kripnoshi kubuntunian13:49
lpfhello13:56
lpf大家好13:57
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andrey__ребят, кто знает как icq установить?14:15
tomsdaleWhat is the shortcut to reactivate compositing after it turned itself off?14:26
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Ubu1155163Why do my Kubuntu freezes and CAPS and Scroll Lock flash? I just wanted to install it14:28
Ubu1155163anyone here?14:29
dr_willisthats a sign that the kernel just crashed BIG time14:29
Ubu1155163How can i repair/fix it?14:29
dr_willisso you boot the live cd. and the cd crashes like that?14:29
Ubu1155163Yes14:29
dr_willis i would say its a bad cd burn, or currupted download./14:30
Ubu1155163I just downloaded 10 th time14:30
dr_willis check the md5sums to verify the cd is good?14:30
Ubu1155163And spent 10 CD's14:30
Ubu1155163How can i do that?14:30
dr_willis!md5sum14:30
ubottuTo verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more14:30
dr_willisYou can also use unetbootin tool and the iso file to make a 'bootable/installable' thumbdrive   no cd's needed14:31
dr_willistest the cd's on another pc is also a good test14:31
tomsdaleFound it Alt + Shift +F12 = Suspend/Resume Compositing14:32
dr_willisi  recall seeing some kde widgit that turned it on/off also14:33
Ubu1155163Do I need another Linux system to make unetbootin?14:34
dr_willisunetbootin is a windows tool. or linux tool14:34
dr_willisno need for any linux at all. :) just the tool and  the .iso file.. it can even download the iso file.14:35
dr_willisand it can make bootable -usb drives for a dozen+ disrtos14:35
dr_willisits handy14:35
dr_willisI rarely ever burn cd's any more14:35
Ubu1155163Oh now, this means I have to download this again because i have it on CD, and I'm using PCLinuxOS's CD. Too bad I don't have another CD Drive14:37
dr_willisunetbootin might bea ble to use the cds you burnt..  no idea on that..14:38
dr_willisI use it from windows and  i use the iso files14:38
Ubu1155163When I'm using UNetbootin from Windows, does that mean that it installs WITH Windows or formats the drive14:39
dr_willisunetbootin creates a BOOTABLE Installable USB thumb DRIVE taht boots the disrto.14:42
dr_willisuse unetbiooting.. tell it the iso file.. point it to the Thumbdrive.. let it do the work.. reboot14:42
dr_willisboot from usb drive... continue with out any cd needed14:43
dr_willisit will erase the THUMB drive yes.14:43
dr_willisactually it might be able to do an install to a hard drive.. but ive never done that..14:43
Ubu1155163I selected Hard Disk and its downloading now14:44
Ubu1155163Im afraid its going to crash again14:44
dr_willisso? :)  if it does.. try some other disrtos via netbootin on the thumbdrive and see what happens14:44
dr_willisPuppyLinux works very well  with Unetbootin and  on most machines14:45
beatzz_beatzz_: http://www.fsckin.com/2007/12/20/how-to-run-world-of-warcraft-wow-in-linux-using-wine/comment-page-2/14:45
beatzz_thanks me from another computer14:45
dr_willistalking to your self? :)14:45
beatzz_yup yup14:45
beatzz_we are14:46
dr_willisid rather get LOTRO working..14:46
dr_willis:P14:46
Ubu1155163I don't think this is going to work, but ill give a try. I still don't get it why does it crash and lights flash14:46
beatzzof course it will work14:46
beatzzits linux14:46
beatzzits just a matter of makeing it work14:46
beatzz;)14:46
dr_willisUbu1155163:  kernel or initrd is confused and   the whole system crashes.. if the files are currupted - the cpu is  running garbate14:46
dr_willisgarbate14:46
dr_willisgarbage14:46
Ubu1155163thanks14:47
Ubu1155163But what if the UNetbootin downloads the corrupt file again?14:54
anil_kumarhi...need help...black screen after OS boots.no login screen14:56
Ubu1155163nobody here?14:59
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beatzz_im here15:01
beatzz_sorta...15:01
Ubu1155163I was just wondering why if the UNetbootin downloads the corrupt file again and it crashes again?15:02
zer0oanyone who could help me today with my WICD and WEP key issue?15:05
beatzz_yes15:06
beatzz_choose 40bit/hex key instead of passphrase15:06
zer0obeatzz_: i only have 60bit/hex and 120bit/hex15:07
zer0oand in both cases it doesnt connect15:07
zer0okeeps saying "obtaining ip address" and doesnt go on then it crashes...15:07
zer0oany idea?15:07
enigmqtikplop15:09
roman_How can i restart the display manage in kde?15:14
roman_!diplay manager15:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about diplay manager15:17
roman_!display manager15:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about display manager15:17
LjLroman_: sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart15:17
BluesKajHiyas folks15:17
BluesKaj!kdm15:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm15:18
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BluesKaj!display15:19
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution15:19
roman_My window borders are gone for soe reason, what would cause this and how can i get them back?15:21
BluesKajmaybe try an different theme15:23
roman_I tried changing themes, but i cant change themes because i cant click apply, since i cant move the windo becuase there are no borders.15:29
devilsadvocate_roman_, hold down alt and drag the window15:30
roman_That doesnt work.15:30
Laruftwhy does a single click in dolphin mean open.... whereas in most other file managers it means select15:30
Tm_TLaruft: depends on your settings15:31
LaruftI suppose it's something I can get use to.  It just feels weird having used amiga/windows so long15:34
LaruftI wondered how u multiple select, but I see holding down ctrl key does that15:34
Laruftbut then multiple selecting, then clicking on an icon doesn't open all selected, which is strange15:35
roman_Laruft: go into system settings, then mouse and keyboard and you can change open to double click.15:35
Tm_TLaruft: you can set it to have doubleclick too15:35
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lolipopHi, when i'm trying to send files from my phone to my kubuntu, i will get sending failed, but i can send files from my kubuntu to phone, any idea why?15:36
Laruftsay i want to open 3 text files at same time, i ctrl+select, then do what?15:37
kanon-matchange settings and maybe use konqueror?15:38
MaGicKanGaRoowell you can just select them one at a time with ctrl and select and then press enter to open with default app or right click and choose options to apply to all15:39
Laruftright click->open with works...15:40
MaGicKanGaRooand pressing enter?15:41
Laruftbut left single click just opens the item you click ignoring the  other selections15:41
MaGicKanGaRooyes15:42
Laruftthis is in dolphin btw15:42
MaGicKanGaRooas one single click selects and opens the item your choosing15:42
Laruftah enter launches the default app multiple times15:42
MaGicKanGaRooyarp15:43
MaGicKanGaRooyou can also click on the small green crosses that apear on items to multi select if you dont like ctrl and select15:43
MaGicKanGaRooin kde3 it used to be a configuration option the first time you loaded kde15:43
MaGicKanGaRoowould ask if you like, unix windows or combo style of doing things15:43
MaGicKanGaRoonow they just assume you love single clicking :)15:43
MaGicKanGaRooproblem is whenever you go back to a windows machine you have trouble using it :S15:44
Larufti'm trying to migrate fully to kubuntu jaunty15:44
roman_Does anyone know how to restore window borders when they dissapear?15:44
Laruftdiscovered kvm, which rocks15:44
Larufton the default launcher in kubuntu why is system/settings all muddled15:46
MaGicKanGaRoosorry, where do you mean?15:46
Laruftnvidia x server settings is listed on both sub menus15:47
Larufti mean the menus, sorry on applications tab15:47
Laruftprinter configuration which to me is a setting, appears under system15:47
Larufton top of all that there is a system settings application too15:48
Laruftnot sure where that lives, but it's on my favourites tab15:49
MaGicKanGaRooapplications:/15:50
MaGicKanGaRoo?15:50
roman_!emerald15:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about emerald15:50
Laruftnah it's just listed on favourites15:51
roman_Can someone please help me? I'm missing all of my window borders and can't figue out how to get them to show back up.15:53
demonre15:53
demonканал русский?15:53
Pici!ru | demon15:54
ubottudemon: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:54
Laruftroman, wish I could help.. have u restarted?15:55
roman_Laruft: Several times.15:56
roman_What is the name of the application that handles all the window borders?15:56
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Dragnslcrroman_- are you running compiz?15:57
Laruftkdm? perhaps15:58
MaGicKanGaRooyou may need too...15:58
roman_Dragnslcr: No, I tried to. But it crashed, and now im having this problem.15:58
* MaGicKanGaRoo digs through memory15:58
MaGicKanGaRookde-window-decorator &15:58
MaGicKanGaRootry that15:58
Laruftah you don't need compiz with kde4, lots of compiz effects you can do now, without compiz installation15:58
roman_Laruft: Im running 8.04 with KDE3.15:58
MaGicKanGaRooyes15:59
MaGicKanGaRootry this kde-window-decorator &15:59
Laruftok15:59
DragnslcrIf that doesn't work, "kwin --replace &" might do it15:59
onessimotest15:59
DragnslcrIf you've restarted X and it keeps happening, look for this file- /etc/X11/Xsession.d/25enable-compiz16:00
onessimobye bye16:00
onessimosee you later...16:00
MaGicKanGaRootoodles...16:00
* Laruft is happy to discover classic 'start' menu style... much easier16:01
roman_Dragnslcr: Thanks, it was Kwin --replace that fixed it.16:02
Laruftooh and system->system settings has appeared16:02
DragnslcrYeah, I'm not a fan of the new style for the K Menu16:03
Laruftkickoff can... ####off16:03
Laruftexcuse the pun16:04
smookihi16:05
smookiI'd reduced the taskbar to much, now I can't see it anymore, any tip to retrieve it please ?16:06
Laruftkickoff has potential, but using default, there is not enough height to display items,  6-7 items is not enough and frustrating to keep scrolling16:07
lycaenaSelam16:08
lycaenaTurk varm'_16:09
Pici!tr | lycaena16:09
ubottulycaena: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.16:09
LaruftI'd like 2 rows on my plasma start/window tabs/clock bar.    is that possible?16:10
BluesKajI still use the classic style Kmenu ...it's much simpler and direct16:12
Laruftyes, i'm using classic kickoff.. seems ok16:12
Laruftnot sure how to change to use another launcher.  I did like cairo-dock icons i've seen in another distro16:13
Larufti can make the panel bar taller, but not into two+ rows...16:14
Laruftoh i see, just done it, automagically, i like that16:15
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Laruft_oh i've just swamped quassel by doing a /list16:25
hn8456Can I install KDE 4.2 on Kubuntu 8.04 ?16:28
Tm_Tnot easily no16:28
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Laruft_it's a shame, i'd like to stick to KDE apps, but i fear I have to now install firefox as Konquerer is just not displaying some pages properly16:32
LycaenaUbuntunun turk ircsi neydi16:32
Tm_TLaruft_: possibly because of those pages, not Konqueror (:16:32
Laruft_yes I can understand that, is there any way I can get konquerer to display such pages?16:33
Laruft_site in question is eve-online,  i've set up wine just trying to get the client downloaded.16:34
Tm_TLaruft_: make the website coders to do things properly or so?16:34
LycaenaTürk varmı?16:35
genii!tr16:36
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.16:36
Laruft_ok, so it's not konq's fault?...16:36
spathi_Ubuntu!16:36
BluesKajLaruft_, that site gave me this : The application nspluginviewer (nspluginviewer) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). Altho it did load part of the page16:36
BluesKajwith konq16:37
BluesKajLaruft_, it loads very well in FF16:39
Laruft_I know, which is why I thought it was konq lacking somewhat16:39
Laruft_I can't even get the link to d/l page in konq16:41
BluesKajLaruft_, I tried being a KDE purist for a while, but the number of sites that didn't load prperly or at all finally caused me to switch to FF , as much as I regret to admit I've concluded that FF is the superior browser.16:42
lolipopHi, when i'm trying to send files from my phone to my kubuntu, i will get sending failed, but i can send files from my kubuntu to phone, any idea why?16:42
Laruft_just wondering what performance hit there is having gnome+kde libs loaded.16:42
Laruft_and if FF applets will work on linux?  foxmarks for example16:43
Laruft_lolipop, is that via bluetooth?16:43
Slartibartfastlolipop: we all have the same problems with bluetooth ... seems some things are not working very well in KDE for bluetooth16:43
lolipopyeap16:44
Slartibartfastlolipop: you have to find other ways of transfering files ... and wait there will be fix soon16:45
lolipopSlartibartfast: its okay, it  works fine with my gnome16:46
SlartibartfastOK .. also can use a cardreader ... or obextool ...16:47
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Laruft_i've done something to kate now.. KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/kate'16:54
DragnslcrLaruft_- there shouldn't be any kind of performance issues with having Gnome libraries installed. It's normal to have both KDE and Gnome libs16:54
Laruft_the other quassel is swill swamped, locked up from /list command....16:55
DragnslcrAnd there are only a few Windows-specific Firefox extensions that won't work16:55
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Laruft_ok16:55
Laruft_I'll apt-get firefox next time I reboot, but for now, back to vista :-(  thx for your help16:56
chronicanyone got compiz to work w/kde16:56
DragnslcrWith KDE3, yeah. Compiz doesn't work too well with KDE4 (which has its own compositing)16:57
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chronicyeah i noticed16:57
BluesKajcompiz works ok on my setup , depends on the graphics card first of all16:58
BluesKajnvidia 7600GT , not real fancy but a decent card16:58
chronicmy drver is a savge s3 on a ibm t23 any one with that sanme setup?16:58
BluesKajthat's all compiz really needs to run16:58
chronicserious16:59
BluesKajkde4.2 here , chronic16:59
BluesKajnot familiar with savageS317:00
SlimeyPeteS3 Savage == old, very old17:01
chronicyeah i think it my graphics card :( thanks for the help17:01
BluesKajyes, so i see , really old :)17:02
DragnslcrI wish Konversation had event-based scripting17:03
yogichQUESTION: What happened to Gwenview, in KDE 4.x??  There are far less features, and no way to delete recent folders17:03
BluesKajDragnslcr , what is event-based scripting ?17:04
DragnslcrBluesKaj- being able to hook a script into things like incoming messages17:05
chronicwhat is a good linux fps game?  - right know im play urban terror17:06
DragnslcrCould also be called triggers in some IRC clients17:06
alebocodoes any one know how to backup important posts in akregator?17:06
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martijn81chronic: nexuiz is a cool fps game17:09
feeesehello17:10
feeeseis enyone here?17:11
chronicill check it out any others17:11
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feeeseive a problem with my konversation tool, can anyone help ?17:11
chronicwhats the prob?17:12
feeesei want to start a dcc download17:12
feeesethats no problem17:12
feeesebut if i want to resume later17:13
feeeseit starts from the begining17:13
feeese-> no reume17:13
feeeseresume17:13
yogichQUESTION: What happened to Gwenview, in KDE 4.x??  There are far less features, and no way to delete recent folders17:14
feeeseis this only a wrong setting ? i didnt found ?17:14
feeeseive konversation 1.117:15
chronicresume is prob not supported17:15
feeesebut here : http://packages.debian.org/de/etch/konversation17:15
martijn81chronic: nexuiz is in the repository17:15
feeese"DCC file transfer with resume support"17:16
chronicmartjn81: sweet i also found tremulous ill try it out17:17
afeijodoes a torrent player exists? my download link often get a video faster then its one play time lol17:20
Rieshafeijo: torrent is not streaming from the begin of a file to the end of a file ... you get chunks, sometimes from the end of the file and sometimes  from the beginning17:21
RieshSo you just have to wait that the download is 100%17:22
yogichQUESTION: What happened to Gwenview, in Intrepid (KDE 4.x)??  There are far less features, and no way to delete recent folders17:23
afeijoRiesh: indeed! chunks... I knew that, make sense, thanks17:24
Riddellyogich: file a wishlist bug on bugs.kde.org if there's something you want17:39
yogichRiddell: Thanks, Riddell... :-)  Rock on...17:41
micamar19hi all17:47
micamar19wich is the comman to see if my usb adapter wireless has been detected17:47
micamar19i type lsusb and show me --> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 2001:3a03 D-Link Corp.17:47
micamar19but i cant use it yet17:48
pavel__what does ifconfig say?17:48
micamar19give a second, plz.17:49
KomiaPoikahi17:52
KomiaPoikai made a fresh install of 8.04 amd64, but after installing nvidia driver, X won't start anymore... how can i debug this?17:53
micamar19ifconfig --> Link encap:Local Loopback ; inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0 ; UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1; RX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 ; TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 ; collisions:0 txqueuelen:0  ;  RX bytes:244 (244.0 b)  TX bytes:244 (244.0 b)17:53
micamar19I dont understand, sorry I am a complete noob :'(17:54
pomocani'm not much of an expert either :)17:54
pomocando you have any interfaces displaying in ifconfig17:54
pomocansuch as: eth0, wlan017:55
Rieshor in network manager17:55
pomocanor there, yes :)17:55
KomiaPoikaahem... it seems installing 1.73 over 1.80 fixed it17:56
micamar19nope, ifconfig doesnt show: eth0, wlan0.17:57
micamar19i have installed kubuntu some minuts ago17:57
pomocanhow are you connected to the internet just now? are you using another pc?17:58
pomocanpress alt+f2 and type in 'knetworkmanager'17:59
Rieshmicamar19: when you have plugged in this usb wireless adapter, you got a message in your desktop?17:59
micamar19x"D im using other computer. ;)17:59
||arifaXhi, i mounted a ntfs drive with ntfs-3g and scanning it for viruses. I know that 1 virus is in an ntfs-stream svchost.exe:exe.exe how can I show (verify) the existance of this stream under linux?17:59
micamar19NOpe, when i plugged mi adapter i didnt see anything new18:00
pomocandid you try unplugging it and plugging it in again ? :)18:00
pomocando alt+f2 and type in 'knetworkmanager'18:00
ubunhelperhello some one can help me :)18:00
pomocanubuntuhelper: you're the helper, you should help! :P :)18:01
Rieshthere is in the systray some icon for network ... when you left click that you don't see wlan0 ?18:01
Rieshmicamar19: ^18:01
ubunhelpernope need for help xD18:01
micamar19re18:01
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needhelp^^18:02
pomocanshould have set it to ubuntuneedhelp :P18:02
needhelpty18:02
pomocanwhat with?18:02
micamar19waitme me unplugging .....18:02
needhelp;(18:02
ercanHi, probably been asked a thousand times but when will digikam 0.10.0 for kde4 be packaged for kubuntu?18:03
needhelpubuntuneedhelp is empty =?18:03
micamar19i didnt see anythint new18:04
Rieshercan: 我不知道 ... which is chinese for: i don't know :-)18:04
micamar19dmesg18:04
needhelp^.-18:04
micamar19knetworkmanager doesntwork18:05
pomocanalt+f2 -> 'knetworkmanager'18:05
ercanRiesh: should you know?18:05
micamar19alt+f2 --> knetworkmanager --> doesntwork --> how do i istall knetworkmanager from cd18:05
demoni cant seem to open tar.gz when i try to extract it i got bunch of error and its not just with one file pls help :)18:06
Rieshercan: no .. i am not a developer .... maybe this question is bette to ask in #kubuntu-develop ... or something like that18:06
^Ch0psdemon: did you check permissions?18:07
^Ch0psand what is the error message?18:07
demonyes18:07
needhelp#kubuntu-develop is ]EMpty  too18:07
needhelp-.-18:07
demon^Ch0ps: smt tar error18:08
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demondunno they are a lot and i cant copy paste them18:08
^Ch0pswhich command are ou using?18:08
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geniineedhelp: #kubuntu-devel    and not #kubuntu-develop18:08
demonjust open the fil;e extrackt to desktop18:09
Rieshthats why i said "something like that18:09
needhelpthANKS :d18:09
^Ch0psah, not doing it over the command line eh?18:11
^Ch0psokay18:11
^Ch0psdid you re-download the file?18:11
demonyes its not just one file18:11
demoni will send you a screen shot ok18:12
demonor smt like that18:12
^Ch0psok18:12
^Ch0psis it with every file, demon?18:13
demonyes18:13
^Ch0psyou just open the file and choose to extract it?18:13
^Ch0psopen a command line, cd ~/Desktop, tar xvzf filename18:14
^Ch0pstry that18:14
needhelphello i have the original disk of ubuntu   v 8.10  !! and when i try to boot dont appers on  the system for chooise windows or ubuntu..18:15
needhelpmaybe is my windows 718:15
demonPermission denied18:15
needhelpor what18:15
demon.brb18:15
pomocanneedhelp: did you check your booting options ?18:19
needhelpyes18:20
needhelpi can boot and all18:20
pomocanno, I mean, is it set up to boot up from the cd?18:21
pomocanyou need to go into your bios settings18:21
needhelpyes..18:21
pomocanand see if the booting options include the cd, etc18:21
pandamoniumhelp! things have gone wrong :(18:21
needhelpim booting from my cd18:22
needhelpwhen i restart18:22
needhelpyes the cd boot and  all good18:22
needhelpappers the screen in color black with the name ubuntu18:22
needhelpafter appers 5 options.18:22
pandamoniumdoes anyone know how i can get back the task bar at the bottom of the desktop?18:22
pandamoniumi was fiddling trying to get it full width and it disappeared. version 8.10 with kde 4.118:23
needhelpafther i choose any optins my cd is chargning and make clicks , clicks18:23
needhelp=?18:23
^Ch0psokay demon, now.. did kubuntu ask you for a password when you tried to unzip the files using the gui?18:24
needhelpthe problems is !! When my laptop need restar in ubuntu !! only boot windows 718:24
^Ch0psyou may have to try sudo tar xvzf filename18:24
pomocanand ?18:25
pomocanis it that you don't have a choice of what you want to run ? Windows or Ubuntu ?18:25
needhelpyes i cant =?18:26
BentFranklinI'm installing a printer in Kubuntu 8.10.  The printer's install script wants to create an /etc/printcap.  Does Debian/Kubuntu lpr still printcap?  It also is expecting a /var/spool/lpd dir, which I don't have.  There is a user 'lp' in /etc/passwd which shows /va/spool/lpd as it's home dir.  Is it ok to just go ahead and make this dir?  What should be the owner/group/persm?18:26
pomocanyou'll need to install grub again probably, manually18:27
pandamoniumcan anyone help me get my taskbar back please? i can't do anything without it18:27
pandamoniumi mean can't do anything in gui18:28
^Ch0pscheck the sides of the screen, is there a little arrow at either end of the screen at the bottom?18:28
ubuntu_hola18:30
pandamoniumno...18:31
pandamoniumi sort of messed it all up18:31
pandamoniumi booted machine and it booted into 640x480 and wouldn't go any higher so i rebooted18:31
^Ch0psoh I see18:32
pandamoniumand when it did the task bar thing only went halfway across so i was trying things to make it full size but i sort of deleted it hoping to add a new one18:32
^Ch0pshmm.. i'm not at my kubuntu machine right now18:32
pandamoniumwhen i added a new one it went to top and i couldn't move it at all. plus i can't add any widgets to it18:33
^Ch0pscan you get to the konsole?18:33
perihanhello18:33
perihanI need a help18:33
^Ch0psif you can get to a prompt try typing kpanel18:33
pandamoniumthe terminal?18:33
^Ch0psyeah18:33
pandamoniumcommand not found18:34
^Ch0psare you using ubuntu or kubuntu?18:34
^Ch0psgnome or kde?18:34
rframehi all18:34
perihani had to install my screen card on kubuntu18:34
needhelphola ubuntu18:35
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rframecan someone help me?18:35
pandamoniumkubuntu and it says command not found18:35
^Ch0pshmm, let me see if I have a VM of Kubuntu on this beast18:35
rframea have a problem with nvidia driver installation18:35
pandamoniumi can right click and run commands - typign terminal brings up a little icon for konsole18:35
jamesjedimasterrframe: type your problem, anyone who knows the answer will help you18:35
rframea have a problem with nvidia driver installation18:36
perihanbut after installing the screen card whenever i return my laptop from sleep mode18:36
perihanthe screen blank screen doesn't change18:37
perihanis any one help me to solve this?18:37
rframetry to reload graphic interface18:37
rframectrl+alt+bckspc18:38
rframeor change alt with shift18:38
demon^Ch0ps: nope no password18:38
^Ch0pshm. did you try sudo tar xvzf filename.tar.gz?18:38
rframeCHOPS: u're talking with me?18:39
demontar: Old option `H' requires an argument.18:40
perihanis there any one to help me to solve black screen problem?18:40
demon^Ch0ps: can i just install another program18:42
demon:)18:42
pandamoniumit's ok... i rtfm a bit and worked out how to move it18:42
pandamoniumand i can add the widgets by dragging and dropping onto the bar :)18:42
^Ch0psahhh, so you had the bar the whole time with no widgets on it?18:43
^Ch0pspandamonium..18:43
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^Ch0psdemon: where are you getting the 'H' from?18:43
demondunno18:44
rframehello18:44
demonlemme open it with rar:)18:44
rframehelp me18:44
rframewho has nvidia driver on kubuntu?18:44
demonme rframe18:45
pandamoniumi removed the bar and tried to add a new one but it added to the top18:45
pandamoniumbut i found a way to move it down and then i've been adding stuff now18:45
pandamoniumso yes, sort of :)18:46
demoncan some body tell me how to install a applet18:49
pandamoniumrframe i have one18:51
puddlehi all18:58
puddlei have kubuntu fully installed on my pc and guess what i dont have a fucking clue whats going on LOL18:59
puddle>_> <_<18:59
puddle><18:59
jamesjedimasterperhaps you have to log in18:59
puddlenvm18:59
puddleforget what i said18:59
puddle><18:59
* genii tries to forget the horrible profanities19:00
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pandamoniumprofanities? you mean 'clue' and 'fully' ?19:03
eddy_hola, intento borrar el directorio windows y se borran todo los archivos excepto esto:19:09
eddy_sudo rm -rf WINDOWS.1/19:10
eddy_rm: no se puede borrar el directorio «WINDOWS.1/assembly/GAC_32/System.EnterpriseServices/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a»: Operación no soportad19:10
jamesjedimaster!es | eddy_19:10
ubottueddy_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:10
jackdaxterhi! somebody know the gamecube emulator called "dolphin"?19:12
norenhi all19:13
norendolphin i thought it was a file manager19:13
jackdaxternoren: not the file manager, the emulator!19:15
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noren__hi all19:20
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magnusexcuse me, i downloaded python and was gonna try that out, but I cant seem to find it anywhere on the disk, I tried to search "python" in the search aswell, nothing came up.19:28
magnusand when i "apt-get install python" it says the newest version is already installed.19:30
geniimagnus: And:   python -V      reports something?19:32
magnus"python 2.5.2"19:33
magnusgenii : it reports "python 2.5.2"19:34
geniimagnus: So, yes it's installed. If you want to write python programs, use an aditor, save the file with .py extension. then you can execute them and it will know to use python for that19:34
AHemlocksLieI'm trying to install Kubuntu onto a laptop from a USB drive. The monitor's shot on the laptop, so I have it hooked to a regular monitor. Everything's great until it tries to run what I guess would be KDE. It goes through the Kubuntu loading screen with the blue progress bar, and once it's done, the monitor gets an "out of scan range" message and goes blank. The message is from the monitor, not Kubuntu, I think. How can I fix this?19:35
puddlegr1m19:35
puddleSorry19:36
noren_hi19:36
puddlehey19:36
magnusgenii : thank you, now i just gotta learn how to program with python. Thought you programmed with the program, not just used it to execute the files.19:36
noren_AHemlocksLie: boot into recovery mode from the grub and try the option to fix the display from therre19:37
AHemlocksLiethe USB drive doesn't have a recovery mode19:38
AHemlocksLieit has default, help, and OEM19:38
AHemlocksLiehelp doesn't start any sort of GUI, and I dunno how to navigate the console that well19:38
AHemlocksLieI've yet to try OEM, though, could that be it?19:39
noren_AHemlocksLie: whats the prob with the laptop monitor, neway insteaad of using the live cd get an Alternate cd will be able to correct the prob better frm it19:40
andrey_amarok не читает mp3, переустановил кодеки, он показывает работающий эквалайзер (мол воспроизводит) а звука нет, хотя со звуком все нормально. в чем может быть проблема?19:42
fosco__!ru | andrey_19:42
ubottuandrey_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke19:42
mefisto__AHemlocksLie: if you alt-ctrl-F1 can you get to a terminal?19:42
andrey_amarok не читает mp3, переустановил кодеки, он показывает работающий эквалайзер (мол воспроизводит) а звука нет, хотя со звуком все нормально. в чем может быть проблема?19:43
noren_mefisto__: is it not ctrl alt f4 gives the background processes happening while initial bootup19:43
AHemlocksLienoren_: I dunno, I got the laptop from a friend. The screen usually won't work. Sometimes, it just has a blank gray/white screen, sometimes it won't even turn on. I think it needs to be replaced. alt-ctrl-f1 worked, though19:43
kanonmat_andrey, you want mp3 kodek on amarok, or something about an equalizer?19:44
noren_!ru | andrey_19:45
ubottuandrey_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke19:45
AHemlocksLieis there anything I can do from the terminal to get it to work?19:47
noren_AHemlocksLie: at what step of installation are u stuck19:48
AHemlocksLieI'm not even installing yet19:48
noren_i hope u are trying out frm a live cd !!19:48
AHemlocksLieit was trying to load it live19:48
AHemlocksLieyeah19:48
AHemlocksLieit's a live CD, except I put it on a USB drive19:49
mefisto__AHemlocksLie: well it sounds like the driver it is booting with is failing. try looking for video-related boot options. I think there is a failsafe mode19:49
noren_ok did u check the integrity of the CD before trying to instll19:49
noren_mefisto__: i dont think there a much options in the live cd19:50
noren_AHemlocksLie: try starting the installation manually from the konsle/ if u have that up and running19:51
AHemlocksLielike to make sure I didn't get a corrupted download? I've never had a corrupted download before, so I didn't even bother checking anything19:51
AHemlocksLiehm... how would I do that?19:51
mefisto__AHemlocksLie: the first screen before booting, do you see "F4 Modes" at the bottom?19:53
noren_you have to go to the /home/Desktop/ubiquity install.file19:53
AHemlocksLiecould this be because I'm using the x86 version, and this laptop has a 64-bit processor?19:55
mefisto__AHemlocksLie: there should be "check CD for defects" there19:55
mefisto__AHemlocksLie: no, x86 should be fine19:56
AHemlocksLiemefisto__, I guess I'll try your idea, then I'll try installing from the terminal19:56
noren_well good luck19:56
mefisto__AHemlocksLie: if you press F4 and choose "safe graphics mode" it will probably boot up without going blank19:57
AHemlocksLiemefisto__ don't think I have an f4 option. Loops like the boot screen19:57
AHemlocksLielooks like the boot screen is from UNetBootin, the program I used to put the live CD on a USB drive19:58
mefisto__AHemlocksLie: do you not have a cd drive?19:58
cratessomanx19:59
AHemlocksLieI think the CD drive19:59
AHemlocksLieis messed up, too20:00
AHemlocksLieI'm about to burn a disc and try anyway20:00
AHemlocksLieI'm not sure if the drive is messed up or if his Windows was just messed up20:00
AHemlocksLieeither's possible20:00
AHemlocksLieokay, burning the live CD to a disc20:02
AHemlocksLiehopefully, this works20:02
AHemlocksLiethe laptop had a lot of problems when my friend had it20:02
AHemlocksLiebut he also admits to running like no anti-virus and Windows XP20:03
AHemlocksLieso there's no guarantee if any problems were hardware or software related20:03
noren_AHemlocksLie: are u using a usb pendrive or usb cdrom20:04
AHemlocksLieusb pendrive20:04
puddlehi all20:05
puddleNeed help20:05
noren_oj ok20:05
noren_yes  puudle20:05
puddleneed to configue the Wlan20:06
puddleI am new to kubuntu20:06
puddleSo please go easy on me20:06
puddleNeed basic steps. This isnt working :x20:06
cerecitasthe wireless you mean?20:06
puddleYep20:06
puddleneed to get online20:06
cerecitashmm can you see a ball like of the earth somewhere in the bottom right corner?20:06
puddlei was recomended here by k0pp_20:06
mefisto__AHemlocksLie: you could try adding vga=771 as a boot option (press F6 to add it)20:07
cerecitasi can help you if its nt complicated... if it is then the guys will be more able ;d20:07
puddleweb browser?20:07
cerecitasnope, in the taskbar20:07
puddlesec20:07
cerecitasnear the clock, there should be like a grey ball20:07
cerecitaslike an earth20:07
noren_AHemlocksLie: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html20:07
harjotwhat is the kdm starup script20:07
puddleknetwork manager?20:08
k0pp_cerecitas, hes running kubuntu 8.04 with KDE3.520:08
k0pp_fyi.20:08
k0pp_different icons i believe.20:08
cratessomangpg: órdenes incompatibles???20:08
puddleknetwork manager? i think he means.20:08
cerecitasahaaaa20:08
cerecitasyep20:08
harjotDoes anyone know the KDM startup script loation20:08
puddle\;20:08
cerecitasknetworkmanager is what we're looking for ... now if you right click on it, can you see the network you want to connect for?20:08
puddlesec20:09
cerecitasbeen really long since i used 3.5 but we will try anyway20:09
harjotGuys plz20:09
mefisto__harjot: /etc/init.d/kdm   <-- is that what you're looking for?20:09
harjotyes ty20:09
harjotthanls20:09
puddlei see no networks20:09
puddleWhen i right click it :x20:09
cerecitasand you see "new connection" ?20:10
k0pp_harjot, /etc/init.d/kdm20:10
k0pp_oops, didnt see mefisto__ respond :P20:10
puddledamnit all i see when i righjt click it is button options config etc20:11
puddleSeems strange no list of networks20:11
puddle:x20:11
cerecitaspuddle:  i am not really sure in kde3.520:11
puddlekk20:11
cerecitasin kde4 you dont see any list just something like "new connection'20:11
cerecitasthen you click there and there is the list of available networks20:11
k0pp_cerecitas, whats the name of KDE4's network manager?20:11
cerecitasknetworkmanager20:11
puddleNope thats the thing with the tortrails of google as well. Says list of options20:12
k0pp_i believe its the same20:12
puddleI see nothing :x20:12
k0pp_puddle, run knetworkmanager from the terminal20:12
k0pp_if thats not what youre using alread20:12
k0pp_y20:12
cerecitasme too but maybe it has different options dunno20:12
puddlekk20:12
puddleon termianl programme20:13
k0pp_puddle, why dont you just plug an ethernet cable into your machine and make it easy on yourself :P  wireless = security fail20:13
=== casa is now known as korty
puddledont think i have one.20:13
cerecitashum k0pp_?20:13
puddleI'm getting new internet in 2 weels20:13
k0pp_i sniff my neighbors traffic all day ;/20:13
puddlelol20:13
cerecitashehe20:13
k0pp_puddle, if no one in here can assist you at the moment, just google "kubuntu wireless config"20:14
cerecitaspuddle: why don't you try clicking on options/20:14
k0pp_indeed.20:14
cerecitastry exploring all the submenus there... as long as you just click and cancel won't harm20:14
cerecitasand maybe you will find the list of networls.. what was that command to check if the wireless was working...20:15
puddleyep ok20:15
puddleI will20:15
andrey_уке20:15
cerecitasisomething....20:15
mefisto__puddle: or maybe "kubuntu hardy wireless config"20:15
cerecitasthere was a command to check if the wireless is listening... i just cant remember which one was sorry20:15
puddleits ok :)20:15
cerecitasanyway, do you know your wireless card chipset?20:16
puddlenope lol20:16
puddleimma try google/20:16
cerecitaslspci on konsole will tell you i think20:16
harjothow do i autorun a program in the background at startup20:17
puddleGoogle doesnt usually fail =\20:17
dwidmanniwlist maybe20:17
cerecitasthats it!!!!20:17
k0pp_alias gip="ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr' | awk print{'$2'}" <--why does that give me this error: awk: line 1: syntax error at or near print20:17
cerecitashmm no that wasnt.. but it was similar20:17
cerecitasiwlconfig maybe?20:17
puddlecerecitas20:17
puddlefound it20:17
harjothow do i autorun a program in the background at startup20:17
puddlesudo ifconfig -a20:17
puddlethat the command?20:17
puddlesudo ifconfig -a20:17
cerecitashmmm no that's t check the connection20:17
puddle?20:17
puddleOh ok20:17
cerecitasbut you need to be connected20:17
k0pp_harjot, look into /etc/init.d/20:17
puddlei'll check that20:17
cerecitasthe one i mean.. let me see if i can find it20:18
k0pp_or /etc/rc.d/20:18
harjotand what do it20:18
harjotedit the file or create new20:18
k0pp_harjot, manages your startup scripts.20:18
harjotah... thanks20:18
cerecitasgimme a sec puddle20:18
mefisto__harjot: you could put a symlink in ~/kde/Autostart  or go to systemsettings > autostart20:18
k0pp_harjot, they're directories.  i believe you just put a script in there and it should startup, but i dont know exactly how that works ive never looked too far into it.20:18
puddlekk cerecitas20:19
harjoti dont really want a symlink but what kopp said might be worth a try20:19
puddle;D20:19
mefisto__harjot: look for autostart in systemsettings, that will probably be easier for you20:20
cerecitasgot it puddle20:20
cerecitasin the terminal write iwconfig20:20
harjotok20:20
puddlekk20:20
cerecitascheck if it says something on wlan20:20
puddlety so much20:20
puddle:)20:21
puddleyou guys are awesome20:21
cerecitasthen we will know if your card is at least detected20:21
k0pp_puddle, you get it worked out?20:21
puddlek0pp_ working on it my freind i would say another half hour20:21
puddlelol20:21
cerecitasno no puddle not me ;D i just have simple solutions here and there ;) if not i will send you to big brothers :D20:21
k0pp_@_<20:21
k0pp_ok.20:21
puddle)20:21
puddleok cheers cerecitas command worked. And im getting more focused now. No wireless found though20:22
puddleI'm now going to work on getting my machine online20:23
puddle:)20:23
cerecitasyou cannot see any wireless?20:23
dwidmannI know on my laptop with intrepid my wireless is eth020:23
puddleNope im going to try a tortorial20:23
cerecitasi mean when you use it, no wireless detected???20:23
cerecitashmm then it may be a drivers problem not sure20:23
mefisto__puddle: lshw -C network   should show your networking hardware20:23
cerecitasthat command should show the wireless around20:23
harjotthere isnt an autorun and how do u use that update rc command?20:24
cerecitasmine is wlan020:24
geniiharjot: man update-rc.d      has a few clear examples of how to use it20:24
puddlemefisto__ cheers20:25
cerecitasone day, i will go thru all the logs of this channel and compile all the commands and it's use... and maybe save them20:25
puddlesays no wireless axtensions?20:25
mefisto__harjot: systemsettings > advanced tab > autostart (search for it in the search field if you can't see it)20:25
puddleDo i still have a chance of getting it onlien?20:25
puddleIf it says no estensions :x20:25
=== sean is now known as Guest51046
cerecitaswith the command mefisto__ gave you??/20:26
puddlesec i'll try that20:26
puddleHavnt tryed it yet20:26
puddleSorry20:26
puddlesec20:26
=== Guest51046 is now known as psyco
psycohey im having trouble setting up NFS between 2 servers20:26
psycoi think its all set up20:27
harjotok20:27
psycobut i don't know how to access the files XD20:27
puddleit says warning you should run this programme as super user? wireless interface20:27
puddle:x20:27
psycoserver is on one pc, and /etc/exports should allow my pc20:27
psycobut how do i view files20:27
puddledont know what that means :x20:27
cerecitasdoesnt tell you the model of the interface?20:27
puddlesec20:27
k0pp_puddle, sudo <comman>20:28
k0pp_(run as root)20:28
cerecitasshould say product vendor blabla, that's what we need to know20:28
puddleethernet phisical interface20:28
puddlethen says something about wireless.20:28
cerecitastry with sudo as k0pp_ said sudo lshw -C network20:28
cerecitasit should say brand and model of your wireless card20:29
k0pp_also he could do: lspci | grep net20:29
puddlebroadcast = yes  multitask = yes20:29
k0pp_it'd probably list it there aslo.20:29
puddlewireless IEEE20:29
cerecitasor, lspci20:29
harjotok im still stuck20:29
puddlebah20:29
puddle..20:29
geniipsyco: eg: mount servername-or-ip:/exported/foldername /local/foldername             then ls /local/foldername .20:29
cerecitasshould also give you the solution (no bah, that won't make your wireless work... patience :))20:29
puddlekk k0pp_ i will try that20:29
psycogenii: do i run that on the server or client?20:29
puddlelol cerecitas20:30
harjoti want a server [ica] to run when the pc turns on to run in the background so there is no one user problem20:30
cerecitas;)20:30
k0pp_puddle, will be the same. all it does is list whats plugged into your PCI slots20:30
geniipsyco: On the client20:30
cerecitasmaybe a pastebin??20:30
k0pp_anywyas.20:30
psycogenii: ok i shall try :D20:30
harjoti want a server [ica] to run when the pc turns on to run in the background so there is no one user problem20:31
k0pp_puddle, do you know the SSID and key for the network you want to join20:31
puddleok k0pp_ gave me some more info hmm, serial number etc dont know if that helps20:31
puddlei have no clue k0pp_20:31
puddleTo be honest i am in a hole right now :x20:31
cerecitaswe need something like this puddle 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)20:31
k0pp_.. then how do you expect to connect to anything?20:32
cerecitasthat i you run lspci20:32
cerecitas*if20:32
puddlek0pp_ its given me a serial number?20:32
puddleOf somekind hmmm20:32
k0pp_puddle, listen to cerecitas.20:32
k0pp_im going away for a bit20:32
k0pp_bye.20:32
puddlebye20:32
cerecitaspuddle:  let's do it like this, run lspci20:32
puddlek20:32
harjotguys20:32
harjotguys20:32
harjoti want a server [ica] to run when the pc turns on to run in the background so there is no one user problem20:32
puddlecommand not found20:33
cerecitashmm in the terminal/20:33
cerecitasit's Lspci20:33
puddleYep?20:33
puddleAh20:33
puddlek20:33
k0pp_no20:33
cerecitas:)20:33
k0pp_its not capitalized.20:33
puddle?20:33
cerecitasyeah20:33
cerecitasnot capitalized but need him to know it's an L not an I20:33
k0pp_Lspci isnt a command, whereas lspci is.20:34
k0pp_Ah20:34
k0pp_heh, sorry.20:34
psycogenii: I ran this: mount 192.168.0.161:/exported/home /home/sean  and got this: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.0.161:/exported/home20:34
cerecitasnp i'm not very bright today myself... just caught a nice cold20:34
harjotplp20:34
harjotppl20:34
cerecitasharjot: we may not know...20:34
puddleok i have run that20:35
puddleCommand20:35
cerecitasok now go to http://pastebin.com/20:35
cerecitasand please paste all the output of that command there20:35
puddleremember im on a different machine20:35
harjotyeah umm.... do yuo no where start up  scripts go [background server] ? if not says no plz20:35
cerecitasah true20:35
mefisto__harjot: what does [ica] mean? and what does "so there is no one user problem" mean?20:35
cerecitasso try to find a line like this20:35
psycogenii: the server /export is : /files 192.168.0.161/24 (rw,no_root_squash, async)20:35
harjotica  is italc [classroom suite]20:35
harjotuser problem mmeans20:36
cerecitas05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) <--- that's my wireless... just something similar20:36
puddlekk20:36
geniipsyco: Are the usernames same of current user attempting to mount, and the owner of the files which are being shared from the server?20:36
harjotu can only run 1 instance of it so i want it to run in the background so it just starts before logon20:36
puddlecheerw i'll see if i can20:38
k0pp_puddle20:38
k0pp_run this command: iwlist scanning20:38
psycogenii: if you mean the accounts yeah20:38
k0pp_will enumerate wireless networks.20:38
puddlek20:38
cerecitask0pp_:  i am wondering if his wirelss is working at all or needs some drivers20:38
geniipsyco: /home is not owned by any user. /home/theirname is, however. Trying to share /home and not /home/theirname will result in fail20:38
harjotmefeisto: are u there20:38
k0pp_puddle, recognize any networks20:38
psycooh ok20:38
mefisto__harjot: yes20:38
harjotok did u hear wat i said the user problem was about?20:38
puddleiwlist scanningwlan0 no scanning results20:38
puddle=\20:38
* Dillizar is here to show you how to ease the pain20:38
psycogenii: well i thought i just shared the whole computer,20:38
psycogenii: all i want to do is transfer over some backup files20:38
cerecitasi have another question puddle.. i take it you have a router and a wireless network @ home right?????20:39
mefisto__harjot: if you want something to start before login, my autostart suggestion or adding a symlink to ~/.kde/Autostart directory will not work20:39
harjotprecisely20:39
cerecitasbecause we can freak out and neighbours wireless do not necesarily need to be there always...20:39
puddleyes cerecitas20:39
psycogenii: when i run exportfs -a i get "exportfs: Warning: /files does not exist"20:39
geniipsyco: "no root squash"  means usernames are being preserved, etc. With root squash any user mounting the nfs share becomes effectively translated to root on the server box20:39
Dillizarharjot you want to set witch programs to start on log in??20:39
psycogenii: ok ill try that20:40
cerecitasthen i will leave you with k0pp_ because i think it looks like drivers20:40
cerecitasand that's bigger than I20:40
harjotthe program known in this context as ica [ir=t is reallly called italc but the program is ica]20:40
geniipsyco: If "/files foes not exist" then likely you specified in /exports a folder which has not yet been created20:40
geniiWork needs me, AFK a few minutes20:40
psycoalright20:41
k0pp_puddle, i dont know why yorue trying to configure wireless internet when 1) you dont know the networks name and 2) you dont know the key.20:41
harjotpuddle wat card do u have?20:41
harjotDillizar:the program known in this context as ica [ir=t is reallly called italc but the program is ica]20:41
k0pp_eth0 ftw, wlan0 ftl ;p20:41
k0pp_puddle, in short, plug in!20:42
cerecitask0pp_:  you're a big fan of the wires ehhhhh20:42
k0pp_indeed20:42
cerecitasi hate wires20:42
k0pp_i say this becauase WPA2 is now crackable in about 4 hours20:42
harjotDillizar are u there?20:42
k0pp_i dont like being sniffed, quite simply.20:42
Dillizaryes20:42
Dillizarbut20:42
cerecitashmmm i have it filtered by mac adress.. but since it's my home computer...20:42
Dillizari dsont understand20:42
k0pp_most people dont know anything about that.20:43
Dillizarwhat you are trying to install or make20:43
kalidar!ping20:43
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore20:43
psycoanyone know basics of nfs?20:43
cerecitasyou know the thing is that i live in a small flat so i move the lappy all around... wires are not great idea20:43
harjotbasically u know like kdm starts up, i need that program to start before a person logs on as it is a client\server20:43
k0pp_psyco, i would just use FISH or SCP20:44
k0pp_;/20:44
psycowhich is faster to setup20:44
psycoall i want to do is transfer some files once20:44
psycoto backup a computer20:44
k0pp_psyco, use scp file.tar.gz user@machine:/path/to/your/stuff20:44
k0pp_:/20:44
k0pp_assuming SSHd is running on the machine.20:44
psyco0.o is it by default?20:44
k0pp_psyco, depends on what distro you're running.20:45
=== jono_ is now known as jono
psycokubuntu 8.1020:45
harjotdillizar anything yet?20:45
k0pp_heh.  you could just: sudo apt-get install openssh-server20:45
k0pp_then apt-get remove openssh-server20:45
k0pp_when youre done20:45
k0pp_much much simpler than setting up an NFS filesystem i'd imagine20:45
psycolol20:46
psycoalright20:46
harjotdillizar?20:46
harjotis the last question for me20:46
dwidmannk0pp_: nfs is surprisingly trivial to setup20:46
k0pp_is it?20:46
dwidmannk0pp_: not as much so as openssh, but it really is really easy to set up20:47
mefisto__harjot: try making a script that will start your program, and put it in ~/.kde/env20:47
cerecitasok 10pm20:47
cerecitaslooks like the day is over20:47
cerecitasg'night20:47
k0pp_dwidmann, i had read about it some time ago and it seemed rather tedious20:47
k0pp_but i guess i'll take it from someone who's used it recently ;p20:47
=== sotos is now known as sots1
harjotyeah but i need it not to be induvidula to each account but as 120:48
sots1hola20:48
ScorpKinggreetings dwidmann :)20:48
dwidmannk0pp_: well, if you're going to lock it down nice and secure like, it'll take considerably more work20:48
k0pp_hehe20:48
dwidmannhi ScorpKing, how have you been?20:48
XisdibikIs there a way to set hotkeys for the brightness in kpowermanagement?20:49
ScorpKingdwidmann: always busy but no new complaints20:49
sots1where is the best tutorials on learning linux20:49
sots1?20:49
sots1ay advise?20:50
sots1*any20:50
=== sots1 is now known as {agis}
psycoaaghghgh this is all so complicated20:50
psycoall i want to do is transfer over some files....20:50
psycodoes linux not come with some default network like it comes with samba20:50
dwidmann{agis}: they're everywhere, depends which tutorial you want.20:51
{agis}try filezilla20:51
dwidmann{agis}: beware of older ones though, they're often hopelessly out of date20:51
Dillizarhmm best way to learn linux its to install it :D20:51
{agis}heh20:51
{agis}truw thx20:51
geniiDillizar: The LFS way ;)20:51
{agis}i have them install20:51
Dillizarlfs??20:51
dwidmanngenii: You're evil.20:52
XisdibikLinux from Scratch20:52
dwidmannI like that in a person :D20:52
ScorpKingpsyco: install ssh and then use fish://<ip.of.other.box>/ in konqueror20:52
Dillizarok NOW try to do smt with it make a goal dunno make smt with it20:52
{agis}its just i dont want to use them as windows ....i want to use the terminal/console only :)20:52
* genii cackles evilly at dwidman, then just makes another pot of coffee for everyone20:52
{agis}thx dwindmann20:52
psycoScorpKing: i try that20:52
Dillizari need it that20:52
dwidmann{agis}: dive right in20:52
Xisdibikso is it possible to setup hotkeys for Kubuntu for the brightness slider in kpowermanagement (preferably one that shows like the volume does in the center of the screen)20:52
{agis}yes :)))20:53
Dillizarbtw <{agis}> change your nick so i can TAB it pls20:53
{agis}ok20:53
=== {agis} is now known as agis
Dillizarnot only me :D but guys that dont have konversation20:53
psycoScorpKing: what do you mean by isntall ssh20:53
=== agis is now known as agis1
Dillizaragis ok so now to learn linux first you must not use KDE :P20:54
dwidmannXisdibik: that should be a kernel level feature, I think.20:54
Dillizarits too easy20:54
Dillizar:D20:54
Dillizarlooks just like windows20:54
Dillizar:D20:54
agis1heh its so obvious eh20:54
agis1indeed20:54
mefisto__harjot: still around?20:54
Xisdibikdwidmann: well in Xev my FN+Up/Down shows as XF86MonBrightnessDown/Up  but it doesnt actualy do anything to the screen brightness :/20:54
ScorpKingpsyco: on the box that you want to get into - sudo aptitude install openssh-server20:54
dwidmannagis1: press ctrl+alt+f1 and stay there for a while, the man command is your friend20:54
=== drostie is now known as PvtCaboose
psycoScorpKing: oh ok20:54
=== PvtCaboose is now known as drostie
dwidmannagis1: ctrl + alt + f7 to get back, of course20:54
dwidmannXisdibik: yeah, like I said, I think the kernel is supposed to handle that feature.20:55
agis1nice :)20:55
dwidmannXisdibik: you might get the keypress in xev and still have nothing happen20:55
psycoScorpKing: ok typed : fish://<192.168.0.161>/  and got "malformed url20:55
dwidmannXisdibik: I can think of a somewhat complicated workaround I've used in the past though20:55
Xisdibikdwidmann: is the Kubuntu Kernel vastly different than the Ubuntu one or the same?20:55
psycoXD20:56
dwidmannXisdibik: identicle20:56
psycoScorpKing: forgot to remove ><20:56
Dillizaragis1 try ctrl+alt+backspace20:56
Xisdibikdwidmann: then it cant be kernel related id figure, as it works fine in Ubuntu :)20:56
ScorpKingpsyco: :) it's working now?20:56
dwidmannXisdibik: hmm, interesting20:56
psycoHOLY SHIT20:56
psycoScorpKing: I LOVE YOU20:56
Xisdibik(ill say it is Jaunty though, so that could totally be why it doesnt work :/)20:56
agis1am not killing it Dillizar :P20:56
Dillizarwe all do psyco20:56
Dillizarlol20:56
Dillizar:D20:56
dwidmannXisdibik: could be20:56
ScorpKingpsyco: haha..20:57
psycoi can see why20:57
dwidmannXisdibik: is the ubuntu/gnome you're referring to also the same install of jaunty, or something else entirely?20:57
Xisdibikdwidmann: I have to use Jaunty though for the newer Kernel, the 8.10 kernel doesnt recognize all the keycode releases for the brightness :)20:57
mefisto__Xisdibik: so it works in gnome on jaunty?20:57
Xisdibikyes20:57
XisdibikDaily build of Jaunty Ubuntu works fine20:57
XisdibikKubuntu doesnt (tho its on a live USB currently on my other computer)20:57
dwidmannXisdibik: oh, and don't forget to file a bug on this at https://launchpad.net20:58
kalidarhey guys im trying to burn an iso and k3b isent detecting my burner anyone know what lib files i need or apt-get install package i need?20:58
agis1guys when starting the linux from scratch ....I need to make a different partition on mu disk and work on that until its complet eh ?20:58
Dillizaragis1 try ctrl+alt+f2 i think20:58
dwidmannkalidar: that's a strange one20:58
kalidareh?20:58
ScorpKingagis1: you might get more response in #linux20:59
kalidarit comes up when i put dvds in but when i put a blank in nothing hapens20:59
fabio_fala20:59
dwidmannkalidar: has it worked fine in previous releases?20:59
ScorpKingagis1: you can use a loopback partition for lfs20:59
kalidarhavent tryed20:59
agis1ic20:59
Dillizaragis1 but not on undernet :D they dont like newbies :(20:59
kalidarbut my player and burner are one in the same21:00
kalidark3b wont detect it tho it says please insert burnable media and i do and i cant change it21:00
agis1the time will prove if i am a fast learner :)21:00
Dillizaragis1 to learn linux you need to have problems with it or try to make one :D21:02
harjotyes im still around21:02
psycoahhhhh this is so wonderful :D21:02
dwidmannagis1: well, good luck in your endeavours. With your attitude you're sure to learn much and go far :)21:02
geniiagis1: It takes quite a while for the LFS process, but you usually learn much doing it. It is not for the weak of heart, however21:02
Xisdibikdwidmann, do i put it under Ubuntu, as i dont see Kubuntu on the list :/21:02
mefisto__harjot: /etc/rc.local runs just before login. it's the last startup script to run, so you could put the command in there to start your program21:02
dwidmannXisdibik: umm, sure, if someone doesn't like where you put it they'll move it, I reckon21:02
agis1yeap LFS will do for me21:02
ScorpKingagis1: make yourself a 10GB file. in konsole run "sudo losetup /dev/loop0 <yourfile>" and then "sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/loop0" to make a filesystem on it and then "sudo mount /dev/loop0 /<mountpoint>" to mount it somewhere. now you have a clean partition of 10GB21:02
harjotso21:02
psycohey anyone have a cool theme to cutsomizer my desktop? i have kde 4.2 and im too lazy to go hunting all again21:03
agis1Thx Scorp.....anyways guys thanks for the advises all of you!! cya in one week time when I finally finish LFs21:03
agis1bye for now21:03
ScorpKingagis1: np21:03
harjotyes um it says it does nothing21:03
kalidari figured it out XD21:04
kalidartryin to instal a game called uplink hacker elite on my linux box21:04
harjoti n ther file it does nothing21:04
kalidarlooks prety cool21:04
harjotand i did it once and it worked to another file21:04
ScorpKingkalidar: uplink is nice :)21:05
mefisto__harjot: it says it does nothing because it's empty. if you put something in there it should run on boot, just before login21:05
kalidarscorp you play it?21:05
kalidari have the help file on how to get it working in linux is it hard to do?21:05
harjotare u sure21:05
ScorpKingkalidar: did for a little while but i very seldom play any games21:06
harjotlike if it is a program21:06
harjotor service21:06
kalidaraww21:06
kalidaryeah i dont play many games ither i watch alot of anime tho21:06
psycowhat is the gnome theme that is like qurve or something?21:06
psycothe one i can use to look better in kde21:06
ScorpKingkalidar: i prefer more productive things ;)21:07
kalidaranyone know how i can change my bootloader to something more graphicle21:07
harjotso do i just put in the next line 'ica' ?21:07
kalidarlol21:07
kalidaryeah im trying to learn how to use irssi but ich21:07
kalidarso many commands to rember21:07
ScorpKingkalidar: i agree. bitchx is a bit easier21:08
kalidarscrop is their any graphicle irc cliants that support scripting or fserving?21:08
ScorpKingkalidar: look for usplash themes if you want to change your boot screen21:08
mefisto__psyco: gtk2-engines-qtcurve ?21:09
ScorpKingkalidar: no idea, google should tell21:09
kalidarthe only reason im using irssi cuz it supports fserving21:09
kalidarthx21:09
psycomefisto__: yeah thanks :D21:09
harjotok thanks goto go bye!!!21:09
psycoanyone know how to enable the "clikc middle wheel" scroll?21:14
psycoin firefox21:14
psycoits where you click middle wheel; then move house up or down21:14
k0pp_psyco, its somewhere in about::config21:14
psycok0pp_: yeah i rememer that XD21:14
k0pp_if you type that into the address bar21:14
k0pp_thats really all i know about it heh21:14
k0pp_hello again puddle.21:14
puddlebah21:14
puddlehi hi21:15
k0pp_get an ethernet cable plugged in yet21:15
psycoahh its in options to XD21:15
kannonugh21:16
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puddle93;X21:16
puddle93Oh dear21:16
k0pp_get an ethernet cable plugged in yet?21:16
puddle93dont think i have obe21:17
puddle93one.21:17
k0pp_thats obscene21:17
puddle93Do you get one free with wireless internet?21:17
puddle93Bah21:17
puddle93wait21:17
puddle93this looks promising21:17
k0pp_?21:17
puddle93k0pp_ where do i find the pass?21:18
puddle93to connect to my wireless :x21:18
k0pp_puddle93, the routers config, or use the pass that youre using on the machine youre on.21:18
puddle93I ahve to other laptops connected to my internet :X21:18
puddle93i dont know the pass for the internet though =[21:18
k0pp_thats why im saying you find it in  your routers config21:18
k0pp_or look on the other machines using wireless and use that password...21:19
puddle93k21:19
k0pp_puddle93, you need to learn to read all of what i say21:19
k0pp_iptables --list21:19
k0pp_oop21:19
puddle93k21:20
puddle93im turning the other machine on21:20
puddle93hopefully this wil work21:20
k0pp_if not, you can always crack it :D!21:21
puddle93k0pp_ do you think someone of my condition will be able to do that21:21
puddle93DO be serious21:21
k0pp_you said you had done it before ;p21:21
puddle93i did?21:21
puddle93i want logs :D21:22
puddle93ah wait21:22
puddle93that was my neighbours21:22
puddle93lol21:22
puddle93just need passphrase then im online21:23
puddle93i think21:23
k0pp_puddle93, do you know your routers IP?21:23
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puddle93i think21:23
|gabrielgomez|hello21:23
k0pp_go to it in your web browser on the machine youre on now21:23
k0pp_if you dont know i t21:23
puddle93ok21:23
k0pp_in windows: commandprompt and type: ipconfig21:23
puddle93i will sec21:23
puddle93kk21:24
devildevilhey I'm a total noob to kubuntu, and I'm using a mac with an internal airport extreme card to connect other machines to the net in my place, however, the kubuntu904 laptops i just brought up to date don't connect to the wifi for some reason and I'm stumped21:24
kalidarguys how do i open dolphin or filemanager in admin mode so i can coppy files to my /lib21:25
k0pp_kalidar, type: dolphin in colsol.21:26
puddle93ok done that k0pp_21:26
k0pp_puddle93, youve logged into your router?21:26
puddle93no21:26
kalidarsudo dolphin?21:26
puddle93i found the ip address21:26
k0pp_kalidar, sounds good :)21:26
k0pp_puddle93, do what i said to do then.  put it in your browser.21:26
puddle93kk21:27
puddle93hopefully by tommorrow i will be online21:27
k0pp_hopefully in 2 min utes you will.21:27
puddle93lol21:27
puddle93web browser?21:27
k0pp_... yse.21:27
psycoin your guys opinion, what is a good easy to use VM?21:27
puddle93k21:27
k0pp_why are you typing here instead of doing what i said puddle9321:27
psyco(i'll be running xp and osx)21:27
k0pp_psyco, KVM is good21:28
puddle93sorry21:28
k0pp_In my opinion21:28
k0pp_other than that VMWare is great also.21:28
psycok0pp_: ill check it out21:28
k0pp_i can get you all the keys you need if you dont plan on paying for it.21:28
psycok0pp_: lol if i need them ill ask :D21:29
k0pp_or rather link you to the page that generates them.21:29
k0pp_ok.21:29
puddle93put ip as pass21:30
puddle93its connecting21:30
puddle93:x21:30
k0pp_..21:30
k0pp_puddle93, what did you do?21:30
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puddle93Says. Connecting to hub. Need pass i put my ip. k0pp_ i was to scared to say21:31
puddle93what do you mean web browser?21:31
k0pp_....21:31
k0pp_internet explorer21:31
k0pp_firefox21:31
k0pp_opera21:31
k0pp_whatever you use21:31
devildevilis there a known conflict between kubuntu's wifi implementation and apple's airports?21:31
puddle93ok ok ok21:31
k0pp_devildevil, not as far as i know, i seem to recall someone talking about that in #linux before and IIRC they got it working21:32
puddle93so put the ip in web browser21:32
puddle93=\21:32
k0pp_yes puddle9321:32
puddle93ok21:32
devildevilthanks k0pp, ive been attempting to google this problem but linux is humbling21:33
k0pp_hehe21:33
k0pp_dont quote me on that though21:33
devildevili should post this on the apple forum, they're pretty zealous about making apple compatible21:34
puddle93ok did that k0pp_21:34
puddle93Come up on google.21:34
puddle93sigh21:34
k0pp_puddle93,21:34
puddle93yep?21:35
k0pp_i want you to go to radmin.com21:35
k0pp_download and install radmin server21:35
puddle93ok21:35
k0pp_right now.21:35
puddle93dude on my laptop yes?21:35
puddle93KK21:35
puddle93www.radmin.com21:35
psycois there a way to see individual core usage in linux?21:36
psycoon my cpu21:36
puddle93this is confusing21:36
puddle93I figured all i need to do is get online. No more work needed.21:36
k0pp_psyco, i believe alot of superkaramba widgets do that21:36
puddle93I will stick with kubuntu21:36
k0pp_puddle93, ..... forget radmin.21:37
k0pp_just ..21:37
k0pp_use the computer youre on21:37
puddle93ok21:37
puddle93Yep?21:37
k0pp_go to whatever you do to join a wireless network21:37
k0pp_and look at the key21:37
k0pp_put it in your kubuntu machine21:37
puddle93kk21:37
puddle93talktalk i use lol21:38
puddle93k0pp_ all i need is my pass though bud?21:39
k0pp_wireless ssid would help21:39
k0pp_(name of wireless network)21:39
puddle93kk21:39
puddle93well im on connect to wireless network on my linux. And all its asking for is my pass?21:40
puddle93Shall i do that instead k0pp_?21:40
k0pp_i thought we were getting hte password....21:41
puddle93Yes i need the pass?21:41
k0pp_puddle you start saying exactly what you mean from this point on (very clearly) or im gunna ddos you for 3 weeks21:41
k0pp_ok21:41
k0pp_yes we are getting your wireless pass21:41
k0pp_have you got it yet21:41
puddle93no i havnt21:41
k0pp_so what are you waiting for21:42
k0pp_have you done what i said?21:42
puddle93Just doing it21:42
puddle93k0pp_ ok im pulllin myself21:42
puddle93together21:42
puddle93finding the key21:42
puddle93lol21:42
k0pp_stop typing here21:42
k0pp_find the key21:42
k0pp_then tell me when youve found it21:42
puddle93ok ok21:42
k0pp_not trying to be an asshole puddle93 but you are very good at wasting my time.21:43
psycok0pp_: hey for kvm "/usr/local/kvm/bin/qemu-img create -f qcow vdisk.img 10G " what does the qcow stand for21:43
psycoand if i want to make 2 diff images, what do i change for the second one21:43
mat__ahoj21:44
mat__hello21:44
k0pp_psyco, i couldnt say21:44
k0pp_to either of your questions.21:44
psycoheh ok21:44
k0pp_ive only ran kvm for about a week like a year ago or something :P21:44
k0pp_but i would imagine qcow is just flags for creating the image21:45
k0pp_;/21:45
puddle93ffs21:46
puddle93Searching talktalk still no key21:46
puddle93Im pissin myself of now21:46
puddle93=\21:46
puddle93ah net settings21:47
kasm279help121:51
kasm279!21:51
kasm279i cant us adept or terminal to install anything21:51
k0pp_kasm279, apt-get install <--doesnt work?21:51
kasm279my lappy shut off whine it eas installing ubuntu-desktop21:52
kasm279yes21:52
gabrielgomezhello21:52
k0pp_kasm279,  if you were to post the error messages it would help us.21:52
k0pp_http://nopaste.com21:52
kasm279i get this:21:52
mefisto__!aptfix21:52
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »21:52
k0pp_that sounds good too mefisto__ :P21:53
kasm279E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correctthe problem.21:53
mefisto__kasm279: did you run dpkg as the error message says? (with sudo)21:54
gabrielgomezdoes anyone know if opensync synce works in Jaunty or is only my problem ?21:54
kasm279?21:54
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mefisto__Kasm279: sudo dpkg --configure -a21:55
k0pp_[15:54] <puddle93> k0pp_ i am online :D thankyou so much for your help mate. I am sorry to hassel you at work. DIdnt realise. Just to let you know your someone i look up to. SOmeone i admire =\ i will understand if you think im just some tard who noes nothing.21:55
k0pp_wtf?21:55
k0pp_jeez21:55
k0pp_all in a days work i suppose21:56
k0pp_heh.21:56
Kasm279dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0044' near line 1:21:56
Kasm279 newline in field name `#padding'21:56
Kasm279thats wat it says21:56
Kasm279mefisto_21:56
Kasm279do i delete the file?21:57
Kasm279k0pp_?/21:58
k0pp_Kasm279, did you do what the bot said?21:59
k0pp_!aptfix21:59
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »21:59
demiWhy when I use a diff icon theme, for instance, Crystal project, Why when using dolphin my icons arent chaning for files/folders?21:59
mefisto__Kasm279: could be be running out of disk space maybe?22:00
k0pp_demi, did you reboot?22:00
demiyes22:00
k0pp_hrm22:00
k0pp_i coudlnt tell you, ive never changed icon themes.22:00
Kasm279runnin out of ram or hd?22:00
demiits still using oxygen folders, which come with kde422:00
k0pp_demi, they've changed on your desktop though?22:00
aronhello all22:00
Kasm279demi, restart22:00
demiin hte desktop plasma window no they are the same, some icons have changed, but not in dolphin.22:01
demii already restarted.22:01
k0pp_hrm22:01
Kasm279i get the same message22:01
k0pp_yeah sorry coudlnt help ya.22:01
Kasm279mefisto_?22:01
demiHappens with usually any icon pack I try, some change but not all of them, it seems files/folders icons should change though.22:01
mefisto__Kasm279: disk space?22:02
aronmy kopete is crash if i login.22:02
Kasm279no, frsh 10gb wubui install22:02
Kasm279should i delete 0044?22:02
devildevildemi have you ever networked a kubuntu box to a mac sharing its wifi?22:02
k0pp_devildevil, have you tried it?22:03
demiNo22:03
devildevili keep trying it and i cant figure out why it's not happening22:03
devildevilit sees the mac22:03
devildevilit refuses to connect to the mac22:04
devildevilim wondering if it has anything to do with the fact that im using a 128bit wep pass22:04
calamarihi22:04
Kasm279i use the ftp acess on my imac22:04
calamariexcellent!! wpa_supplicant conversation, I hope?22:04
devildevilkasm: have you tried sharing internet off the mac?22:04
Kasm279yes, the FTP22:05
Kasm279on osx 10.2.822:05
devildevilyikes22:05
Kasm279?22:05
mefisto__Kasm279: df -h  to check disk space. how full is your /  ?22:05
devildevilis 10.2 jag?22:05
Kasm279daredevil, yes22:06
devildevili had brutal stability issues with jag22:06
Kasm279the largest used one is at 70% used22:07
Kasm279i havent had problems22:07
Kasm279daredevil, PM?22:07
devildevilsure22:07
josh-lwhats the kubuntu developer channel?22:13
yaa_фак?22:13
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Kasm279!dev22:14
ubottuInterested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment22:14
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josh-lwill kubuntu release its jaunty beta as soon as ubuntu does?22:14
Kasm279im trashing kubuntu.......22:14
Kasm279and going with xubuntu22:14
Kasm279g'bye, everyone22:15
Dragnslcrjosh-l- should be22:15
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josh-lcool22:15
josh-lbad move kde 4.2 rocks22:15
yaa_--reset22:16
psycoive been copying over files22:16
psycoand it just stalled22:16
psycoand is not moving22:16
psycois there a way to get it going without restarting22:16
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devildevilalright, so even when i set the macintosh's wifi to 'open network' the kubuntu box fails to connect22:21
devildevilthe error in the logs "association took too long, failing activation"22:22
kalidaroooops i broke my wine! i uninstalled it then relized i need it and tryed to install it again and it installed but now nothing happens when i click exe files :(22:29
kalidarwhat do i do..22:29
kalidaranyone?22:30
mefisto__kalidar: does it work from commandline?  wine program.exe22:31
kalidarhold on22:31
aronCan anybody help me to Kopete on Kubuntu Linux?22:31
kalidarmodule not found ?22:32
kalidarhmm ill figure it out22:34
kalidarthx22:34
ubuntu_Psyco, just wanna say thanks for the help with the SGD! Really helped. It's PaperTiger BTW22:37
ubuntu_Had to resort to using the LiveCD again....22:37
psycoubuntu_:  heh gratz22:37
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PaperTiger:( You any good with RAID setups?22:37
psycoPaperTiger: nope unfortunately22:38
aronCan anybody?22:38
PaperTiger'cos I've wiped my drives now they're backed up, and the Windows setup won't recognize the drives, even with RAID drivers from mobo disk22:38
trampyhiya22:39
trampywhat drivers and software do i need to read pictures from a MicroSD card taken from the cell phone ?22:39
BluesKajhmm, I use a sdcard , but it's from my camera ..no need for any drivers. It should show up as a "plugged in device"22:41
trampyi plugged it in. i tought window would pop up like when i put a DVD in22:41
BluesKajhow are you plugging it in22:42
trampymy laptop22:42
trampytheres a reader22:42
BluesKajwith an adapter ?22:42
trampyyes22:42
BluesKajahhh, what kind of adapter ?22:43
trampyit says scandisk on22:43
trampycard --> adapter ---> laptop22:44
psycoim off, nighto everyone22:44
PaperTigerNight dude22:44
trampyahh now i get somethin22:44
trampyi had to lock it i think22:44
trampyok, it recognized the hardware, im in the device via dolphin, but no files are showing up22:45
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BluesKajtrampy ok, sometimes it can take up to aminute to load depending on the size of the folder22:45
kalidar_!nicks22:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nicks22:45
kalidar_!nick22:45
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode22:45
trampyok22:46
kalidar_!usrs22:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about usrs22:46
horkeecho22:46
kalidar_how do i see list of ppl in channel?22:46
kalidar_!users22:46
ubottuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo22:46
trampyit says 0  items22:46
trampywhen im in the graphics folder22:46
kalidar_dcc send Kaldar22:46
trampy0 items, when in any of teh folders22:47
trampyit works on windows.22:47
BluesKajkalidar , on irssi the nicks appear at the top of the cli page22:47
kalidar so i have to scroll up every time?22:47
BluesKajyup22:47
kalidarweak sauce why is irssi so popular?22:48
kalidarits all command based22:48
SlimeyPeteI like it because I can run it remotely, via ssh22:48
kalidarim trying to get a handle on it but geez i dun even know how to host fserv or wors how to browse others22:48
kalidarremotely?22:48
BluesKajtrampy, give the pics a chance to load22:48
trampyyeah, it then returns 0 items22:49
trampythats the msg22:49
SlimeyPetekalidar: I run irssi on my Debian server. It's constantly running and I just SSH into the server and re-connect to irssi, so I can use the same IRC session from multiple locations22:49
trampy"0 items"22:49
trampybottom left of dolphin22:49
kalidaroh cool22:49
SlimeyPeteand because it's conencted 24/7 I can always scroll back to see what was said overnight22:49
kalidarhow did you learn to use irssi? its realy complicated22:49
SlimeyPetenah it isn't22:50
SlimeyPetethere're only a few core commands22:50
trampynothing on the terminal when i cd to it22:50
SlimeyPeteand they're mostly just standard IRc commands which you would/could use in any other client.22:50
kalidaraww hmm gues i should learn those commands then :)22:50
kalidarthanks XD22:51
SlimeyPeteit does seem difficult at first but you soon get used to it22:51
kalidaroh problem i cant scroll up using irssi22:53
kalidaranyone know why?.22:53
trampyuse page up22:53
kalidaroh ok22:53
PaperTigerAnyone here a gamer?22:53
trampyme22:53
* trampy likes Doom3 and unreal 200422:53
kalidarim a gamer22:53
PaperTigerWhat games do you play and what do you use to run them?22:53
kalidaroh btw one last question if i wana sort my ./list by catagory or by users in channnel how would i do that?22:54
trampylinux sucks with games, unless they play nativly22:54
PaperTigerAlso, do either of you use Steam?22:54
kalidardownoad Uplink hacker elite for linux its a good game XD22:54
trampydo i need drivers to read pictures?22:54
kalidari stream videos al the time need help?22:54
kalidaroh nvm steam as in cs source22:55
PaperTigerYeah :)22:55
kalidaryeah i play cs source but not sence i got linux22:55
kalidari dont play games sence i switch os but i still prefer linux its fun just figureing out al this stuf22:55
PaperTigerI prefer Linux as it works :)22:56
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kalidarlol22:56
kalidaranyone know how to sort /list by ammount of users or by name using irssi?22:56
BluesKaj!IRC Commands22:58
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about IRC Commands22:58
aron! kopete error in kubuntu22:58
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:58
BluesKaj!kopete22:59
ubottuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin22:59
roamer1I like pidgin better22:59
BluesKajbbl22:59
MrRoboto1*cries*23:01
MrRoboto1Major KDE issues23:01
aronwhy crash kopete, if i login to msn?23:01
MrRoboto1I keep having this damnit monitor blackout...23:01
MrRoboto1its annoying.23:01
DashkalWhich package should I file against to report a bug in kde's automounter?23:01
MrRoboto1herm...23:02
MrRoboto1I might have just fixed this issue23:02
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aronpls help23:04
roamer1what do you need help with aron?23:06
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athlon1aron, why don't you use amsn?23:07
aronwhy i can't login to msn throughtout kopete in kubuntu!23:07
roamer1you should be able too..23:07
roamer1just download pidgin ;0 I love it23:07
athlon1are you behind a firewall?23:08
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aronno, i don't using firewall, my firewall is linux! :)23:09
roamer1um...23:09
aronhow i can install pidgin to kubuntu linux?23:09
roamer1I think its23:09
athlon1Have you tried with amsn? It's for use only with msn.23:09
roamer1sudo apt-get install pidgin23:09
athlon1aron: Have you solved the problem? Do you need help?23:12
aroni can try download a moment.23:15
noukist_i need a little help but not with linux or unix ...23:17
noukist_with that no problem23:17
noukist_i have problems in understanding womens !!23:17
noukist_:P23:17
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roamer1bad place to go for help23:23
roamer1....23:23
roamer1really bad23:23
usuariokjjjhg23:25
opethianquick question  : if i get 9.04 alpha 6 and install it, will i have to reinstall everything on release date or the updates will be available for download and my system will be upgraded to the release version?23:26
roamer1I think you can upgrade23:26
geniiopethian: Upgrade on it works to whatever the latest version in repos is23:26
Boogeymani would guess that you could update it to the stable23:26
opethianthanks for the info23:28
roamer1!tuxracer23:29
ubottuTuxracer is now renamed Planet Penguin Racer! The package is planetpenguin-racer in !universe. Enjoy.23:29
aronhow i can install .package file in kubuntu??23:29
kalidari despratly need a divx codec for wtchin streaming video in konquer23:34
kalidarcould someone point me to the repository?23:34
Dragnslcr!divx23:34
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:34
kalidarthanks23:34
Dragnslcraron- I don't think .package files are for Ubuntu23:35
aronhow i can install to a .zip archive?23:35
aron>>Sorry for my english!23:36
aronpls help me23:38
kde4plzwhat you need help with?23:38
aroni have to install Tcl/Tk a23:39
kalidarthat hep file dosent help i just need a divx codec installed not realplayer lol23:39
aronand aMSN Installer for Tcl/Tk 8.423:40
Lycaenatürk23:42
Lycaenaturk vaarmı23:42
genii!tr | Lycaena23:42
ubottuLycaena: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.23:42
Eloneanyone know how to get kubuntu to compile obj-c code ?23:42
geniiLycaena: eg:  /join #ubuntu-tr23:43
=== choser is now known as choser__
=== prophet is now known as MorbidChimp
=== MorbidChimp is now known as ProphMorph

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