[14:42] <kwwii> Cimi: do you think that the next murrine will be ready by tomorrow sometime?
[14:54] <Cimi> it just need some artistic direction for the focus in the focused listview cells
[14:55] <_MMA_> Make them look like Clearlooks for now.
[14:56] <Cimi> mmm
[14:56] <Cimi> not the listview
[15:03] <kwwii> Cimi: erm, I was talking about the keyboard selection highlight
[15:03] <kwwii> if not, we are going to patch it out of murrine
[15:03] <kwwii> which is nasty
[15:12] <kwwii> or maybe we should just revert to the old version
[15:12] <kwwii> oh well, not my problem anymore then :)
[15:23] <Cimi> kwwii, which keyboard selection highlight?
[15:24] <Cimi> you mean the focus?
[15:24] <kwwii> Cimi: the bug I mentioned yesterday
[15:24] <Cimi> that is not a bug
[15:24] <Cimi> this is the focus ring
[15:25] <Cimi> and Human theme is so ugly that I think there are more important things to fix rather than the focus ring
[15:25] <Cimi> metacity for example
[15:25] <kwwii> Cimi: I appreciate what that, but it is something which I have been told to change
[15:25] <kwwii> so either we fix it or ship an older version
[15:25] <Cimi> anyway tomorrow is my birthday, but if I will have time I will release 0.90.3 with the new focus ring
[15:26] <kwwii> at least make that design decision be confiurable
[15:26] <kwwii> that would be excellent
[15:26] <kwwii> happy birthday, in advance!
[15:26] <Cimi> kwwii, I agree the new focus ring is not perfect
[15:26] <kwwii> hate to ask, but how will you be?
[15:26] <Cimi> thank you
[15:26] <Cimi> 23
[15:26] <kwwii> Cimi: i like the look of it on the buttons, but not anywhere else, really
[15:26] <kwwii> it might look better if the bottom line was blurred somewhat
[15:27] <kwwii> or less opaque
[15:27] <Cimi> kwwii, there was a reason behind one single line
[15:27] <Cimi> it works great with dark themes
[15:27] <Cimi> but at the same time it is not ok for others
[15:27] <kwwii> Cimi: I can imagine that
[15:27] <Cimi> before 0.90.3
[15:28] <kwwii> I have about 20+ people mentioning this to me every day
[15:28] <Cimi> I need a mockup for the listview
[15:28] <Cimi> I don't want to release 0.90.3 and then 0.90.4 with the fixes to the listview
[15:28] <Cimi> so if someone has an idea, yeah come here please
[15:28] <Cimi> lucazade, you too ;)
[15:28] <kwwii> Cimi: what was the issue with the list view?
[15:29] <Cimi> the focus is not ok
[15:29] <Cimi> I want something nice
[15:30] <kwwii> I can look into it as well
[15:30] <Cimi> button will have a rounded rectangle, inside
[15:31] <Cimi> they won't be as clearlooks
[15:31] <Cimi> because clearlooks has problems with dark themes
[15:31]  * _MMA_ just hasn't seen that.
[15:31] <Cimi> _MMA_, wil
[15:31] <_MMA_> (at lease with Studio tests)
[15:31] <Cimi> will
[15:31] <Cimi> oh you mean the focus?
[15:31] <_MMA_> Yeah
[15:32] <Cimi> with dark themes clearlooks has many problems
[15:32] <kwwii> conf call, brb
[15:32] <Cimi> works bad with many colorschemes
[15:33]  * _MMA_ goes back to testing Beta disks. bbl
[15:39] <danielgc> my first Ubuntu Artwork  http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kOCO452KG2w/SchXj4SsO2I/AAAAAAAAAUg/sSsHYYbqrqo/s1600-h/ubuntuBackground.jpg
[15:42] <_MMA_> danielgc: Fun. Want a critique?
[15:47] <danielgc> _MMA_ yeap :)
[15:48] <_MMA_> danielgc: I assume you're going for a matrix thing here right?
[15:50] <_MMA_> danielgc: I believe there are tools to help generate a denser text field.
[15:50] <_MMA_> With a better randomization of characters.
[15:52] <_MMA_> danielgc: If you can change up the "code" field. I would set that to a gradient comprised of the Ubuntu colors.
[15:52] <_MMA_> Next, It's brand-heavy.
[15:53] <danielgc> sure i'm gonna work in that, thanks dude
[15:53] <_MMA_> I would drop the strait-on text/logo from the lower left and render the text along with the 3D one.
[15:53] <kwwii> and it breaks the brand guidelines by changing the logo
[15:53] <_MMA_> Keelong them a solid color and much smaller. Off to the side again.
[15:54] <_MMA_> *Keeping
[15:57] <danielgc> i will thanks again, if you want this gimp and blender's files you can download it from here http://danielgpl.blogspot.com/