| Bojhan | Hey | 02:07 |
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| Bojhan | I am wondering who I should contact regarding usability/ux projects/efforts in ubuntu? | 02:08 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:27 |
| pitti | asac: ah, I think I identified the culprit: it seems to happen while trying to apply patches to generate the sourceful stack trace; debian/rules setup seems to trigger starting xulrunner | 07:51 |
| mvo | is the retracer running again (I guess it takes a bit of time to catch up again). bug #347602 is why I ask | 07:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 347602 in update-manager "update-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in debPackagesIndex::FindInCache()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/347602 | 07:52 |
| pitti | mvo: it got stuck again | 07:53 |
| pitti | mvo: I just killed them, and will now work around it by disabling sourceful stack traces | 07:53 |
| mvo | thanks pitti | 07:54 |
| tonyyarusso | Any chance I could get someone to take a look at a small pet bug for my dad? (It's the last thing keeping him from using OOo apparently.) He filed a report at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/openoffice/+bug/275676 | 08:22 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 275676 in openoffice "[upstream] date text in autofilter header is pushed out by pulldown arrow" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 08:22 |
| asac | pitti: huh? | 08:26 |
| asac | pitti: isnt it just ".postinst"? | 08:26 |
| asac | we run xulrunner --gre-version | 08:26 |
| pitti | asac: haven't looked at the package yet, just applied the workaround for now (disabling sourceful stack trace) | 08:27 |
| pitti | asac: I'll try to get back to this in the afternoon and take a closer look | 08:27 |
| asac | pitti: well. if its the same issue from yesterday i can confirm that simply installing xulrunner-1.9.1 in fakechroot hangs | 08:27 |
| pitti | ah, okay | 08:28 |
| pitti | asac: I have a handful of such cases, I usually just dpkg-divert them away and replace them with a no-op shell script | 08:28 |
| asac | oh so xulrunner isnt alone? thats good to know ;) | 08:29 |
| asac | its the postinst you would need to prevent somehow i guess | 08:29 |
| pitti | asac: gconf-schemas and polkit-auth also give trouble, yes | 08:30 |
| pitti | and ucf | 08:30 |
| pitti | asac: as long as the number of affected programs is so small, it's easier to divert them away than trying to fix fakechroot for each and every corner case | 08:31 |
| asac | pitti: thats good. as long as that doesnt mean we wont get backtraces for xul 1.9.1 at least | 08:32 |
| seb128 | good morning there | 09:05 |
| seb128 | pitti: hello | 09:05 |
| didrocks | good morning seb128 :) | 09:06 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 09:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: are you enjoying being in UK? | 09:06 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 09:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks: yes, being in London and at the canonical office is always nice ;-) | 09:06 |
| didrocks | hi pitti | 09:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: great! ;) | 09:06 |
| seb128 | pitti: did you read the xulrunner discussion yesterday? | 09:10 |
| pitti | seb128: yes; I think it hung on the "get sourceful stacktrace" step, when trying to apply patches | 09:10 |
| seb128 | pitti: hum, what we figured with asac is that it hangs on the xulrunner --gre-version | 09:11 |
| pitti | seb128: I disabled that for now and restarted them | 09:11 |
| seb128 | ok that was my question | 09:11 |
| seb128 | thanks | 09:11 |
| seb128 | I close IRC and went to the pub just after asac suggested that | 09:11 |
| seb128 | so I didn't know what happened next | 09:12 |
| asac | pitti: so you disabled xulrunner-1.9.1? | 09:12 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 09:12 | |
| pitti | let's see how it goes | 09:12 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll look into a more proper workaround this afternoon | 09:12 |
| pitti | seb128: I think I can just dpkg-divert the xulrunner binary | 09:12 |
| asac | i just want to know if there is action required from my side if i want to get backtraces for xul 1.9.1 or not ;) | 09:12 |
| pitti | asac: not yet, working on some other stuff still | 09:12 |
| asac | ok let me know. we can probably eliminate the xulrunner --gre-version invocation if thats needed. | 09:13 |
| pitti | asac: you should get them again | 09:13 |
| pitti | it shouldn't run the postinst in the first place | 09:17 |
| asac | ah ok. | 09:19 |
| crevette | hello | 09:23 |
| asac | hi crevette | 09:24 |
| crevette | hey asac | 09:24 |
| asac | is there a "advanced new bug" page or something for bgo where i can do everything on one page? | 09:40 |
| asac | hmm i cant find gtkhtml3 in bgo | 09:41 |
| seb128 | asac: it's gtkhtml there | 09:42 |
| seb128 | asac: and what do you mean, there is everything on the same page in bgo | 09:42 |
| seb128 | asac: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=gtkhtml | 09:42 |
| seb128 | I guess you opened the simple form ui rather than this one | 09:42 |
| seb128 | no? | 09:43 |
| asac | seb128: could be ... i didnt expect that simple form is decided on first page ... let me check | 09:43 |
| asac | i am blind yeah | 09:43 |
| asac | still odd that i only could find gtkhtml2 on the simple form ;) | 09:43 |
| seb128 | asac: it's written (simple form), did you click there? ;-) | 09:43 |
| asac | seb128: its not even on this page: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi | 09:44 |
| asac | only gtkhtml2 | 09:44 |
| seb128 | asac: it's listed there | 09:44 |
| asac | seb128: i clicked on "New bug" on the top ;) | 09:44 |
| seb128 | asac: GtkHtml | 09:44 |
| seb128 | in the desktop section | 09:44 |
| asac | sigh | 09:44 |
| seb128 | " GNOME's lightweight engine for the rendering, printing and editing of HTML." | 09:44 |
| * asac puts new eyes on his wishlist | 09:44 | |
| seb128 | asac: you should get some coffee ;-) | 09:44 |
| asac | seb128: so is gtkhtml we have mostly trunk or i should i look if the patch is relevant on trunk before submitting? | 09:50 |
| seb128_ | re | 09:53 |
| seb128_ | <seb128> asac: we have mostly trunk, ie the tarball is a week old and they are not that active on it | 09:53 |
| asac | ouch | 09:54 |
| asac | a new brain too. | 09:54 |
| * crevette wishes gtkhtml will be replaced by something better (webkit) | 09:54 | |
| asac | right i have to check webkit too | 09:57 |
| asac | what is using webkit? | 09:57 |
| crevette | asac, some projects are migrtating like lifearea | 10:02 |
| crevette | some Novell developer involved in evolution are rewriting a lightweight mail client for small form factor called anjal using webkit too | 10:03 |
| crevette | asac, http://blogs.gnome.org/sragavan/2009/03/18/announcing-anjal-the-new-mail-for-netbooks/ | 10:04 |
| seb128_ | crevette: it's not a rewrite, it's a new UI but it's still using evolution | 10:07 |
| crevette | seb128_, yeah it on top on eveolution | 10:08 |
| andreasn | crevette, there is a devhelp branch using webkit as well | 10:11 |
| seb128_ | asac: did you consider webkit 1.1 for jaunty btw? | 10:12 |
| crevette | hey andreasn, | 10:12 |
| crevette | andreasn, I was searching the one which were switch from gtjhtml to webkit, devhelp use moz I guess | 10:12 |
| andreasn | yes, it does | 10:12 |
| crevette | asac, the patch in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576694 seems broken | 10:15 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 576694 in Miscellaneous "evolution treats some pixelsized fonts as point sized" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 10:15 |
| crevette | s/broken/not a patch/ | 10:16 |
| seb128_ | it's a patch with noise too ;-) | 10:17 |
| mvo | pitti: what is the best way to debug http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/Fehler.png ? | 10:18 |
| pitti | mvo: f-spot remembers the previously used directory and selects it by default; if it doesn't exist, it brings up that error message | 10:18 |
| pitti | mvo: it should just check if it doesn't exist any more, and silently select the default folder instead IMHO | 10:19 |
| mvo | pitti: this was a fresh instrepid install with upgrade | 10:19 |
| mvo | pitti: ok, I can have a look at the code | 10:19 |
| asac | crevette: thanks indeed | 10:19 |
| pitti | mvo: if you find a bug, I heard that robert_ancell is interested in the mono stack | 10:19 |
| pitti | mvo: LP bug report, I mean | 10:19 |
| crevette | asac, you're welcome I'm so bored at work I read patch incoming for gnome :/ | 10:20 |
| * robert_ancell regrets this already... | 10:20 | |
| seb128_ | crevette: you could triage bugs ;-) | 10:20 |
| crevette | I could ... but this is much work | 10:20 |
| asac | crevette: thats indeed interesting ;) | 10:20 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: cowtrading season is open | 10:20 |
| asac | dont let your boss find the channel log | 10:20 |
| asac | we need text file preview in gtk file selector ;) | 10:23 |
| seb128_ | pitti: who wants to trade when you can give things away? ;-) | 10:23 |
| crevette | asac, I'm not a slacker I do some work though | 10:23 |
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| seb128 | crevette: you could triage bugs! | 10:23 |
| seb128 | and prove you are not slacking ;-) | 10:23 |
| crevette | seb128, it was about my day work, but i'm not slacking for ubuntu, I raise my karma from 1000 to 5000 damn it !! | 10:25 |
| crevette | :) | 10:25 |
| seb128 | good work ;-) | 10:26 |
| seb128 | it's nice that you work on the bluetooth satck | 10:26 |
| seb128 | stack | 10:26 |
| crevette | yeah, I'm not that happy, I don't understand that much bluetooth | 10:26 |
| seb128 | good chance to learn ;-) | 10:27 |
| crevette | yeah :/ | 10:29 |
| didrocks | crevette: I'm sure seb128 will be delighted if you put some work on Compiz as well :p | 10:31 |
| crevette | I don't use compiz and I don't wanna have to learn what it is | 10:32 |
| crevette | :) | 10:32 |
| didrocks | :) | 10:32 |
| seb128 | didrocks: ok, you can get compiz if you really insist! | 10:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: let's say I'm not using it too ;) And I know that you are so eager to maintain the associated package that it will be a crime to remove this pleasure to you :) | 10:34 |
| didrocks | seb128: and first, I'm going deeper in GNOME technology first :) reading http://library.gnome.org/devel | 10:35 |
| crevette | didrocks, and not being cano I can easily refuse any assignment on compiz :) | 10:35 |
| didrocks | crevette: yeah, no tag to push for us ;) | 10:36 |
| pitti | please note that compiz has a very responsive upstream | 10:36 |
| didrocks | pitti: I think it's not a problem of responsive upstream, but more to go deep in the code, managing graphics layers, etc. I think that getting into the code might be more than time-consuming | 10:37 |
| didrocks | it's a really good piece of work, but I don't know how new people easily can get into it | 10:38 |
| pitti | didrocks: I don't think that mvo did much hacking on the code iself either | 10:38 |
| pitti | don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to push the package on you | 10:39 |
| pitti | but from my perspective it seems that maintaining compiz is more a "keep good relations to upstream" and "do good bug triage" problem than hacking on the code yourself | 10:39 |
| pitti | mvo: ^ what are your experiences so far? | 10:39 |
| pitti | mvo: i. e. what would you hand out as a 'job description'? | 10:39 |
| didrocks | yeah, I think that having mvo point of view is the right way :) | 10:40 |
| seb128 | ok, I already asked that before | 10:40 |
| seb128 | but where would you put a list of packages <-> usual maintainer | 10:40 |
| mvo | pitti: yes, that is a good description, preparing updates, keep an eye on the git tree and be nice to upstream (they are always very nice to us) | 10:41 |
| seb128 | I was thinking desktop-bugs or ubuntu-desktop team bzr on launchpad | 10:41 |
| pitti | seb128: you want to keep that as a static list? | 10:41 |
| seb128 | I'm open to suggestions | 10:41 |
| pitti | seb128: or something like "set of uploaders of last 10 uploads"? | 10:42 |
| seb128 | what I see is a list of packages the team maintain | 10:42 |
| seb128 | and who is usually doing updates | 10:42 |
| mvo | I don't mind doing updates, compiz is fun really, the problem is that I suck at bug triage | 10:42 |
| seb128 | ie if somebody usually does ask him or her before starting on an update | 10:42 |
| seb128 | I'm usually doing the gvfs and nautilus updates for example because I track upstream changes closely etc | 10:43 |
| asac | hmm ... is there a way for me to grep through the full gnome svn ? | 10:43 |
| seb128 | so I don't want somebody to jump on those because I'm not around | 10:43 |
| pitti | seb128: my initial gut feeling is that this could just be a dynamic list | 10:43 |
| seb128 | but nobody is working actively on, let's say gucharmap and that is free to claim by contributors | 10:43 |
| seb128 | ie first to come = first served | 10:43 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, I see; so for gucharmap the changelog scanning wouldn't say "free for all" | 10:44 |
| asac | seb128: how about setting Maintainer to seb128@ubuntu.com for those packages that you care really hard about | 10:44 |
| asac | ;) | 10:44 |
| pitti | and for the others, ubuntu-desktop@ | 10:44 |
| asac | yes. | 10:44 |
| didrocks | I saw that in some packages already | 10:44 |
| asac | well at lesat mozillateam sets it to mozillateam to indicate that folks should talk to us first before touching. | 10:45 |
| asac | so if ubuntu-desktop is too broad you can narrow it down by your own name | 10:45 |
| seb128 | asac: well what we do know is that I dispatch updates on IRC | 10:45 |
| seb128 | but I'm not always around and I don't want to block work | 10:46 |
| seb128 | and it would be better to have a public list of what is being worked by who | 10:46 |
| asac | yeah. thats a workflow system ;) | 10:46 |
| asac | you could auto create a batch of Needs packaging bugs | 10:46 |
| asac | when tarballs get rolled upstrream | 10:46 |
| asac | and then use the assignee notion | 10:46 |
| seb128 | right, I don't fancy opening 70 bugs every new GNOME week | 10:48 |
| seb128 | it's lot of "paper work" | 10:48 |
| seb128 | and waiting on launchpad | 10:48 |
| crevette | seb128, back to bluetooth, the problem is bluez doesn't have a BTS which is really boring | 10:48 |
| asac | seb128: autocreating bugs would be ok though? or even too heavy weight? | 10:50 |
| seb128 | it feels like lot of paper work to me | 10:51 |
| seb128 | we could have a table which lists upstream versions and current jaunty ones | 10:51 |
| pitti | seb128: what about a social solution to just tell every contributor to check the changelog and Maintainer: field first? | 10:51 |
| seb128 | and say that anybody is free to claim anything not update | 10:51 |
| pitti | seb128: http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/PkgList/versions_current.html is pretty neat | 10:51 |
| seb128 | so we would move the maintainer info to individuals? | 10:51 |
| asac | so you want merge-o-matic for upstream with work assignment feature ;) | 10:52 |
| seb128 | pitti: right, something around those lines | 10:52 |
| seb128 | asac: not really mergo-o-matic is about producing diffs no? | 10:52 |
| seb128 | asac: well something around that for updates yes | 10:53 |
| asac | seb128: yeah i referred to the "newer version in upstream part" | 10:53 |
| seb128 | ie listing things not uptodates as we list merges to do would be nice yes | 10:53 |
| asac | maybe talk to scott ... gnome tarballs should be as debian packagesjust that they dont have a debian/ dir ;) | 10:53 |
| seb128 | we have plenty of similar pages already | 10:54 |
| seb128 | see the ubuntu-x page pitti just gave | 10:54 |
| seb128 | the pkg-gnome debian team has one too | 10:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: this one: http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-2.26-status.html ? | 10:55 |
| seb128 | yes | 10:55 |
| asac | but if you just that that and you cannot claim a "tarball" it doesnt solve your initial problem? | 10:55 |
| asac | or is your initial problem that you have to hand out tasks ? | 10:55 |
| seb128 | right we want: | 10:55 |
| seb128 | - a list | 10:55 |
| seb128 | - an easy way to claim updates on this list | 10:55 |
| asac | yeah. claiming updates should be like making a timed lock | 10:55 |
| seb128 | which are somewhat orthogonal things | 10:55 |
| asac | e.g. for 36 hours or so | 10:55 |
| asac | or whatever time seems reasonable | 10:56 |
| seb128 | I was thinking just have a bzr where you add a line "source name" | 10:56 |
| seb128 | to claim that you work on "source" | 10:56 |
| seb128 | and have the page code looking that that bzr | 10:56 |
| seb128 | we could also have a small command list tools | 10:56 |
| seb128 | ie, list-to-do | 10:56 |
| asac | seb128: so if we want to look for the future claiming could simply be creating a new | 10:57 |
| seb128 | which would list available updates and being worked ones just by using watch files and this bzr todo list | 10:57 |
| asac | UNRELEASED changelog entry | 10:57 |
| asac | in bzr | 10:57 |
| asac | e..g | 10:57 |
| pitti | seb128: on a tangent, retracers are grinding | 10:57 |
| seb128 | well, that's not because you fix a typo in the control description and don't want to upload that you want to keep a lock on the source | 10:57 |
| asac | dch -i -DUNRELEASED "*new gnome tarball x.x.x"; then commit means its claimed | 10:57 |
| seb128 | pitti: excellent | 10:57 |
| asac | i mean if you could just express that you work on it in the bzr tree where you will work on directly it makes most sense, no? | 10:58 |
| asac | instead of maintaing a different file that everybody has to remember to use and so on | 10:58 |
| seb128 | right | 10:58 |
| asac | so how about the idea of claiming through UNRELEASED changelog entry | 11:01 |
| seb128 | <seb128> well, that's not because you fix a typo in the control description and don't want to upload that you want to keep a lock on the source | 11:01 |
| asac | and a website that parses bzr trees for versions currently worked on | 11:01 |
| asac | (and how long idle) | 11:01 |
| asac | seb128: hmm | 11:01 |
| asac | valid argument. | 11:01 |
| seb128 | my feeling is that bugs are too much of a constrain | 11:01 |
| seb128 | and that changelog updates are racy and don't work in all cases | 11:01 |
| seb128 | we used the wiki for a while but it takes ages to load and commit changes | 11:01 |
| seb128 | I leaning toward a simple bzr list and a wrapper tool | 11:01 |
| seb128 | desktop-todo claim source | 11:01 |
| seb128 | desktop-todo info source | 11:02 |
| seb128 | that sort of thing | 11:02 |
| seb128 | and use a bzr for infos storage | 11:02 |
| Laney | Couldn't you have a page like Bryce's with a "Claim" button that uses LP auth? | 11:02 |
| seb128 | well if somebody wants to do that | 11:02 |
| pitti | CLI++ | 11:02 |
| didrocks | seb128: I can work on that if you wish, once jaunty released (too much work atm, as you know) | 11:03 |
| seb128 | but I've no clue about lp authentification and I don't want to spend time on a website | 11:03 |
| seb128 | didrocks: would be nice, we can discuss it at uds if you will be there | 11:03 |
| Laney | i'll see | 11:03 |
| seb128 | dunno if invitations have already been sent | 11:03 |
| Laney | the code is probably stealable from bryce and REVU | 11:03 |
| didrocks | seb128: I hope I will be there, still waiting for sponsoring results :) | 11:03 |
| asac | didrocks: maybe make claiming so that it either shows how old the claim is | 11:04 |
| asac | or that it gets automatically unset after a while | 11:04 |
| asac | i guess showing how old is good | 11:04 |
| didrocks | asac: yes, timeline is import there, for not having deadlock | 11:04 |
| seb128 | asac: right | 11:04 |
| didrocks | important* | 11:05 |
| andreasn | mpt, ping | 11:07 |
| seb128 | asac: you already got commit approval for your evolution change ;-) | 11:12 |
| seb128 | the evolution guys are reactive nowadays that's cool | 11:13 |
| crevette | yep M barnes is really working hard on evo | 11:13 |
| crevette | until he'll be relocated on other things | 11:14 |
| crevette | :/ | 11:14 |
| seb128 | does redhat relocate people often? | 11:14 |
| seb128 | mchra is doing most of the bug fixing work I notice | 11:14 |
| crevette | mccaan seems to be a moving target | 11:14 |
| seb128 | mbarnes is rather doing the switch away from bonobo etc changes | 11:15 |
| seb128 | right | 11:15 |
| seb128 | but mchra and mbarnes are on evolution for several cycles now | 11:15 |
| crevette | but I guess now mchra and barnes are really involved in evo so I hope they'll continue to work for some time | 11:15 |
| crevette | Laney, hey | 11:16 |
| Laney | yo | 11:16 |
| crevette | Laney, upsating libgupnp fixed the crash in nautilus-sendto-universe | 11:16 |
| Laney | excellent | 11:16 |
| crevette | I did a FFe request to have it updated | 11:16 |
| Laney | seb can approve that | 11:17 |
| crevette | even universe packages ? | 11:17 |
| * Laney thinks so | 11:17 | |
| seb128 | crevette: only universe packages rather ;-) | 11:17 |
| seb128 | I'm not approving packages for main | 11:18 |
| seb128 | what is the bug number? | 11:18 |
| Laney | bug 348122 | 11:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 348122 in gupnp "FFe: Sync gupnp 0.12.6-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348122 | 11:18 |
| asac | seb128: great. can you commit ;)? | 11:19 |
| seb128 | asac: you don't have commit access to the GNOME svn yet? you should ask for that ;-) | 11:19 |
| asac | seb128: good. whats the process? | 11:20 |
| seb128 | asac: http://live.gnome.org/NewAccounts | 11:21 |
| crevette | Laney, I didn't had to answer on the bug report but the upgrade seems to be really safe | 11:23 |
| seb128 | nothing out of nautilus-sendto-universe is using the lib | 11:24 |
| crevette | yep | 11:24 |
| crevette | and all other gupnp packages are developped by the same people | 11:24 |
| crevette | I don't understand why this one was not updatd | 11:24 |
| Laney | because nobody did it | 11:24 |
| crevette | there others packages were synced and not this one | 11:24 |
| Laney | it was updated in Debian after FF | 11:25 |
| Laney | after DIF even | 11:25 |
| seb128 | asac: mbarnes is commiting the change now, you should still apply for svn access ;-) | 11:25 |
| asac | seb128: are you voucher? | 11:26 |
| seb128 | asac: yes | 11:26 |
| seb128 | asac: you can probably list danw too | 11:26 |
| asac | seb128: i have to select a module | 11:26 |
| seb128 | I guess you worked enough with him for that no? | 11:26 |
| asac | i think so | 11:27 |
| seb128 | hum | 11:27 |
| seb128 | asac: select nm, maybe just ping danw before ;-) | 11:27 |
| asac | yeah | 11:28 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ^ | 11:28 |
| asac | seb128: you are not a module owner right? | 11:28 |
| seb128 | vuntz: is there any way to apply for a svn account without being active commiter on a specific component? | 11:28 |
| seb128 | asac: well I'm one of the gnome-control-center ones but it would be weird if you applied for this one since you didn't contribute on it | 11:28 |
| asac | heh | 11:28 |
| asac | ok | 11:29 |
| asac | i will wait till dan pops up | 11:29 |
| asac | i can ask chpe too | 11:29 |
| seb128 | just ask danw and pick nm I would say | 11:29 |
| crevette | seb128, this active component is not really relevant, I didn't touch specific modules neither | 11:29 |
| seb128 | oh right | 11:29 |
| asac | let me check if he is online ;) | 11:29 |
| seb128 | crevette: what component did you pick on the mango page then? | 11:29 |
| asac | not either ... i will decide based on who pops-up first ;) | 11:29 |
| asac | seb128: do the evo guys also have a hand on gtkhtml? | 11:30 |
| seb128 | yes, mbarnes does gtkhtml too | 11:30 |
| crevette | seb128, I don't remember, dodji was the coucher for me, and I set hadess also | 11:30 |
| asac | seb128: ok. i marked the gtkhtml patch as a depends of the evolution bug so i guess they will see | 11:30 |
| seb128 | asac: I expect he will review your other patch soon too, if he doesn't I'll ping him about it | 11:30 |
| crevette | s/coucher/voucher/ | 11:30 |
| asac | seb128: no hurry. | 11:31 |
| asac | i am sure tat most patches get in in time for .1 | 11:31 |
| seb128 | right | 11:31 |
| asac | gnome folks have always been reponsive ... except maybe at-spi ;) | 11:31 |
| asac | hmm ... just found out that pidgin isnt even gnome ;) | 11:32 |
| seb128 | no it's not | 11:36 |
| seb128 | empathy is the GNOME im client | 11:36 |
| seb128 | pidgin is only a GTK application ;-) | 11:36 |
| asac | seb128: re webkit. i have to check why gwibber doesnt work. i asked gwibber folks to investigate let me check | 11:39 |
| seb128 | asac: don't bother, it's important in no way for jaunty | 11:43 |
| seb128 | asac: I would just push epiphany-webkit to universe if we have 1.1 | 11:44 |
| seb128 | but a ppa will do | 11:44 |
| asac | seb128: how about syncing the webkit stuff to -desktop ppa? and then seeing how well it works? | 11:45 |
| asac | i dont want to put it into my ppa because its currently used for "font" topic ... unfortunately there is no sub-ppa support yet | 11:46 |
| asac | so if we can use -desktop for that it would be great | 11:47 |
| seb128 | asac: there is a webkit ppa | 11:50 |
| seb128 | asac: https://edge.launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa | 11:50 |
| asac | oh good | 12:00 |
| seb128 | pedro_: hey | 12:04 |
| pedro_ | salut seb128 | 12:04 |
| seb128 | pedro_: I think mvo could use some help triaging his components | 12:05 |
| seb128 | pedro_: is there anything scheduled for the new bug day? | 12:05 |
| seb128 | I was just running accross https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties | 12:05 |
| seb128 | 82 bugs, 46 new | 12:05 |
| seb128 | could that be a bug day target? | 12:05 |
| asac | i think mozilla components need a massive mass and flash hug ;) | 12:05 |
| pedro_ | seb128: yep totally, there's nothing for tomorrow though and next week we are having a xorg one to help bryce with the bugs | 12:06 |
| seb128 | pedro_: perhaps you can quickly announce software-properties for tomorrow? ;-) | 12:06 |
| seb128 | well there is no hurry | 12:07 |
| seb128 | I just came across it | 12:07 |
| pedro_ | m i think we're too close to the date, we announce those to UWN as well | 12:08 |
| mvo | I would not mind help with hat | 12:08 |
| pedro_ | seb128: i'll add it to the planning for April though | 12:08 |
| seb128 | pedro_: thanks | 12:08 |
| pedro_ | and will do some triaging there today in the meantime | 12:08 |
| seb128 | you rock! | 12:09 |
| * seb128 hugs pedro_ mvo | 12:09 | |
| * pedro_ hugs both | 12:09 | |
| seb128 | pedro_: maybe you can manage to tackle that backlog by your own today who knows ;-) | 12:09 |
| seb128 | I marked some duplicate right now but that's a bit too many bugs to triage right now for me to go through the list | 12:09 |
| asac | i dont even know the magnitude of my backlog | 12:10 |
| pedro_ | heh yeah maybe, let's see how it goes :-) | 12:10 |
| pedro_ | grgr i am the only one getting a lot of spam lately? | 12:11 |
| asac | define "a lot" ;)? | 12:11 |
| pedro_ | well at least 40 emails a day | 12:12 |
| asac | pedro_: with or without spam filtering? | 12:12 |
| seb128 | lol | 12:12 |
| seb128 | pedro_: I'm going some hundred of spams through my spam filtering a day | 12:12 |
| seb128 | and some thousand in the spam filter too | 12:13 |
| asac | i think i get a couple hundreds each day and also a bunch of legitimate mails i never see because my spam filtering is too strict | 12:13 |
| pedro_ | asac: well I'm not filtering those locally | 12:13 |
| pedro_ | mm i might consider that option, i'm getting tired of those | 12:13 |
| asac | so 40 mails get through your provider filter? | 12:13 |
| pedro_ | yeah | 12:14 |
| kenvandine_wk | pitti: can you confirm you can login to ekiga.net with 3.2? | 12:15 |
| pitti | kenvandine_wk: ack; was broken this morning, seems to work now | 12:16 |
| pitti | kenvandine_wk: @ekiga.net's echo test still doesn't work for me, though | 12:17 |
| pitti | kenvandine_wk: oops, it does work for me now | 12:17 |
| kenvandine_wk | it works for me with 3.0.1, but not 3.2 | 12:17 |
| kenvandine_wk | i get this request terminated message, which there has been at least one other report of on the mailing list | 12:18 |
| * kenvandine_wk is debugging it | 12:18 | |
| pitti | kenvandine_wk: ekiga.net seems to be very brittle for me, too | 12:18 |
| kenvandine_wk | weird it works for you | 12:18 |
| pitti | tried it again, and it's silent | 12:18 |
| * pitti wonders whether so many people complain at ekiga, the application, because ekiga.net, the service, is totally unreliable | 12:19 | |
| kenvandine_wk | likely :) | 12:19 |
| kenvandine_wk | the error code i am getting is what happens when you try to register/auth and before it answers you cancel it | 12:19 |
| pitti | both my Canonical as well as my diamondcard.us account have always worked perfectly | 12:19 |
| kenvandine_wk | but it happens in like a second | 12:19 |
| kenvandine_wk | rick said ekiga.net has been reliable for him, with 3.0.x | 12:20 |
| kenvandine_wk | it works amazingly well with our canonical setup | 12:20 |
| * kenvandine_wk thinks it is better than skype :) | 12:20 | |
| pitti | can't compare, I have never used skype | 12:21 |
| kenvandine_wk | i've only used it a few times... but i always had little weird problems... | 12:21 |
| crevette | thanks seb128 for the ack for gunp | 12:28 |
| crevette | gupnp | 12:28 |
| seb128 | crevette: you're welcome | 12:28 |
| pedro_ | asac: do you know if there's anybody working on bug 341684 (in order to assign it to and set the right status) ? | 12:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 341684 in network-manager-applet "nm-applet notifications should have more information for disconnected states" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/341684 | 12:36 |
| asac | pedro_: commented | 12:39 |
| pedro_ | asac: great, thanks you | 12:40 |
| kenvandine_wk | pitti: now ekiga.net is working for me in 3.2... but i get a segfault on exit | 12:42 |
| kenvandine_wk | pitti: do you get that? | 12:43 |
| pitti | kenvandine_wk: no, I don't | 12:43 |
| kenvandine_wk | running it from a terminal? | 12:43 |
| kenvandine_wk | it doesn't seem to trigger apport | 12:43 |
| * kenvandine_wk doesn't know what triggers that | 12:43 | |
| kenvandine_wk | well the segfault isn't a regression... it is happening on 3.0.1 as well :) | 12:44 |
| seb128 | you should not spend too much time on debugging ekiga I think | 12:45 |
| seb128 | if the new version is mostly working push it after beta and send bugs upstream when they come | 12:46 |
| kenvandine_wk | yeah | 12:48 |
| kenvandine_wk | now that i see it is working with ekiga.net i will get it ready to push | 12:48 |
| kenvandine_wk | i didn't want to push it if it didn't work with ekiga.net | 12:48 |
| kenvandine_wk | what triggers apport of a crash? | 12:48 |
| kenvandine_wk | i am curious why this seg fault doesn't trigger it | 12:49 |
| pitti | kenvandine_wk: if it's a real SIGSEGV, you should get one | 12:49 |
| pitti | kenvandine_wk: have a look at /var/log/apport.log ? | 12:49 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok | 12:49 |
| kenvandine_wk | apport (pid 11235) Wed Mar 25 08:31:50 2009: called for pid 11212, signal 11 | 12:50 |
| kenvandine_wk | apport (pid 11235) Wed Mar 25 08:31:50 2009: executable: /usr/bin/ekiga (command line "ekiga") | 12:50 |
| kenvandine_wk | apport (pid 11235) Wed Mar 25 08:31:50 2009: this executable already crashed 2 times, ignoring | 12:50 |
| pitti | there you go | 12:50 |
| kenvandine_wk | :) | 12:50 |
| pitti | kenvandine_wk: rm /var/crash/* | 12:50 |
| pitti | and try again | 12:50 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok, now it is triggering apport | 12:51 |
| asac | Keybuk: could you look into /lib/udev/rules.d/77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules ... do you see anything obviously wrong with the $attr{idVendor} $attr{productId} subsitution? | 12:51 |
| Keybuk | asac: where is that rules file? | 12:52 |
| asac | Keybuk: /lib/udev/rules.d/77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules ? | 12:52 |
| Keybuk | asac: other than the fact you probbaly mean $attr{idProduct} ? <g> | 12:52 |
| asac | yeah | 12:52 |
| asac | sorry. typo | 12:52 |
| Keybuk | err | 12:52 |
| asac | Keybuk: bInterfaceNumber works ... udevadm showed me that idProduct is in parent | 12:52 |
| Keybuk | I don't have any content like that in my file | 12:52 |
| asac | Keybuk: oh then you are not running latest | 12:52 |
| asac | let me psate | 12:52 |
| Keybuk | I updated a few days ago ;) | 12:53 |
| asac | Keybuk: http://pastebin.com/f2ae57f15 | 12:53 |
| Keybuk | nm-probe-modem is in /lib/udev ? | 12:53 |
| asac | Keybuk: yes | 12:54 |
| Keybuk | I'm not sure $attr{driver} will work | 12:54 |
| asac | Keybuk: that works | 12:54 |
| asac | same for bInterfaceNumber | 12:54 |
| Keybuk | oh, neat | 12:54 |
| Keybuk | which doesn't work then? | 12:54 |
| asac | Keybuk: idProduct and idVendor | 12:55 |
| Keybuk | hmm | 12:55 |
| Keybuk | $attr{} should walk up the parent devices | 12:55 |
| asac | i thought its either a udev bug not looking high enough in parent | 12:55 |
| Keybuk | can you show me the udevadm info -a for this device? | 12:55 |
| asac | or its because its a feature and i have to match something in subsystem usb | 12:55 |
| Keybuk | could be both | 12:55 |
| asac | Keybuk: yeah ... wait a sec | 12:55 |
| asac | udevadm info -a -p $(udevadm info -q path -n /dev/ttyUSB0) | 12:56 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/f434327a8 | 12:56 |
| Keybuk | hah | 12:56 |
| Keybuk | you know you can use -n right? :P | 12:57 |
| Keybuk | udevadm info -a -n ttyUSB0 | 12:57 |
| asac | heh ... no ;) | 12:57 |
| * asac happy now | 12:57 | |
| Keybuk | ok | 13:03 |
| Keybuk | so this matches the SUBSYSTEM=="tty" (top-level) | 13:03 |
| Keybuk | it matches the KERNEL name too | 13:03 |
| Keybuk | (though that's pretty redundant given the subsystem match <g>) | 13:03 |
| asac | yeah | 13:03 |
| asac | hmm ... have to run to lunch ... back in half an hour | 13:04 |
| Keybuk | so I think this should work | 13:04 |
| Keybuk | it's probably a udev bug that it doesn't | 13:04 |
| mvo | seb128: do you know about http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/err1.png ? | 13:08 |
| mvo | seb128: that is with brasero | 13:08 |
| seb128 | mvo: no but I'm not watching this product bugs, maybe better to ask pedro_ | 13:08 |
| mvo | oh, sorry | 13:09 |
| mvo | pedro_: have you seen http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/err1.png before? happend on a fresh jaunty upgraded system when burning | 13:09 |
| seb128 | mvo: did you get a successful record? | 13:11 |
| mvo | seb128: yes, that was fine | 13:18 |
| pedro_ | mvo: if the disc was burned ok that's probably bug 294455 | 13:26 |
| pedro_ | (sorry for the delay was on a call) | 13:26 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/294455/+text) | 13:26 |
| mvo | thanks pedro_ | 13:27 |
| pedro_ | i truly hate you ubottu | 13:27 |
| pedro_ | mvo: no problem :-) | 13:27 |
| seb128 | what's up with this bot | 13:29 |
| seb128 | it keeps timeouting since yesterday | 13:29 |
| asac | Keybuk: any idea where the bug could be or do we need to workaround this for now? | 13:50 |
| Keybuk | asac: haven't looked yet | 13:51 |
| Keybuk | it'll just be in the bit of udev that applies $attr{} | 13:51 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: good morning | 13:55 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: hi | 13:56 |
| Keybuk | asac: I have another udev problem to debug at the same time ;) | 14:14 |
| asac | Keybuk: so you are looking at something related now? (/me just did a dbg build to see more log output) | 14:15 |
| Keybuk | asac: will be in a few minutes | 14:15 |
| Keybuk | just clearing through my bugs to line them all up :) | 14:16 |
| asac | Keybuk: ok. this one is 346835 | 14:17 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, I finally found out why consolidating the dup db takes two hours, and why we got all those "inconsistency detected: bug #336952 does not appear in get_unfixed(), but is not fixed yet" issues which slowed it down so much | 14:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 336952 in gnome-applets "stickynotes_applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slist_remove_all()" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336952 | 14:37 |
| pitti | seb128: it's fixed now; the next run will throw out all these invalidated bugs, and from then on it should be a matter of 5 minutes | 14:38 |
| seb128 | pitti: excellent! what was it? | 14:38 |
| pitti | seb128: the function which checked the bug status still checked for "Rejected", instead of "Invalid" | 14:40 |
| pitti | that must have been changed ages ago | 14:40 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 14:40 |
| asac | seb128: is there a fundamental reason why autologin with keyring cannot work? | 14:49 |
| seb128 | asac: if you set a password for gnome-keyring? something needs to provide it the password | 14:50 |
| seb128 | asac: when you type the password on the login screen we can unlock the keyring using that | 14:50 |
| seb128 | if you do autologin how do you want to unblock it? | 14:50 |
| asac | seb128: i am looking at the -devel thread ... i just think we should fix the autologin problem instead of starting to move wifi keys to plain text | 14:50 |
| seb128 | if the password was possible to read automatically by a software it would not be secure storing | 14:50 |
| asac | yeah. but making access to keyring insecure on systems that have autologin sounds more sensible than starting to move apps away from keyring | 14:51 |
| seb128 | asac: right, see my reply on the list about setting a blank password when selecting autologin | 15:00 |
| pitti | I actually liked mdz's idea of just prompting for your own password | 15:03 |
| Keybuk | that kinda defeats auto-login though | 15:09 |
| Keybuk | since you still have to type a password | 15:09 |
| rickspencer3 | I don't think we should set a blank password by default | 15:10 |
| rickspencer3 | that seems very insecure to me | 15:10 |
| rickspencer3 | don't people store quite sensitive info in the keyring? | 15:10 |
| asac | Keybuk: ubuntu branch mentioned in control doesnt have 140 (udev)? ... last log is 139-2 | 15:13 |
| Keybuk | asac: pushing now | 15:14 |
| asac | just fyi | 15:14 |
| asac | ah cool. | 15:14 |
| asac | i wanted to diff 139 to 140 ... thats handy then | 15:14 |
| Keybuk | asac: could you run | 15:15 |
| Keybuk | udevadm test $(udevadm info -qpath -n ttyUSB0) for me | 15:16 |
| asac | Keybuk: http://pastebin.com/f4f8cf11 | 15:17 |
| Keybuk | asac: are you on i386 or amd64? | 15:18 |
| asac | i386 | 15:19 |
| Keybuk | asac: grab http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/udevadm | 15:21 |
| Keybuk | then run | 15:21 |
| Keybuk | UDEV_LOG=debug ./udevadm test $(udevadm info -qpath -n ttyUSB0) > udevadm.log 2>&1 | 15:21 |
| Keybuk | udevadm.log will be quite large | 15:21 |
| asac | Keybuk: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/udevadm.log | 15:23 |
| Keybuk | let me check with kay on this one | 15:29 |
| Keybuk | the code is deliberately not recursing up the parents | 15:31 |
| asac | yeah. i saw that it somehow only does two/three steps | 15:31 |
| Keybuk | it looking at the event device | 15:32 |
| Keybuk | (ttyUSB0) | 15:32 |
| Keybuk | and the device matched (the one that DRIVERS matched I think) | 15:32 |
| Keybuk | which is the usb interface | 15:32 |
| Keybuk | the code matches the comment | 15:34 |
| asac | code == case SUBST_ATTR in udeve-event.c, right? | 15:35 |
| Keybuk | right | 15:35 |
| asac | util_resolve_subsys_kernel -> /* handle "[<SUBSYSTEM>/<KERNEL>]<attribute>" format */ | 15:36 |
| Keybuk | "the parent device, other matches have selected" | 15:36 |
| Keybuk | which is not "all parents" | 15:36 |
| asac | does that mean we have to specify something like XXX/idProduct ? | 15:36 |
| Keybuk | ohh | 15:37 |
| Keybuk | no, this is deliberate | 15:37 |
| Keybuk | this is because you can do DRIVERS=="foo", ATTRS{...}=="xxx" | 15:38 |
| Keybuk | and they both HAVE to match the same device | 15:38 |
| Keybuk | ie. it finds a single parent | 15:38 |
| Keybuk | it's consistent | 15:38 |
| Keybuk | the manpage is just wrong | 15:38 |
| Keybuk | which was your rule again? | 15:39 |
| asac | yeah | 15:39 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/f2ae57f15 | 15:39 |
| asac | Keybuk: ^^ | 15:39 |
| Keybuk | DRIVERS will match the usb interface I think | 15:39 |
| Keybuk | can you confirm that for me | 15:39 |
| Keybuk | ls /sys/bus/usb/drivers/option/* | 15:39 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/f672c0f3d | 15:40 |
| pedro_ | mvo: may you give your opinion on bug 184226 later? | 15:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 184226 in software-properties "Feature Request: Install all updates without confirmation." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184226 | 15:40 |
| Keybuk | asac: great | 15:41 |
| asac | can you think of a trick how we can still get the product and vendor id for that IMPORT command? or do we need to dig that out on our own in the prober? | 15:41 |
| mvo | pedro_: sure, thanks | 15:41 |
| Keybuk | asac: try this | 15:41 |
| Keybuk | $attr{[usb/]idProduct} | 15:42 |
| Keybuk | $attr{[usb/]idVendor} | 15:42 |
| asac | damn | 15:42 |
| asac | i tried usb/idProduct ;) | 15:42 |
| Keybuk | if you change the rules, then you should be able to run the udevadm test command I gave you (using the debug binary) | 15:42 |
| Keybuk | I'd like to compare output | 15:42 |
| asac | i should have read the parser more carefully ;) | 15:42 |
| asac | checking | 15:42 |
| asac | hmm | 15:44 |
| asac | doesnt work i think | 15:44 |
| Keybuk | got the udevadm test output to compare? | 15:45 |
| asac | i still get | 15:45 |
| asac | Mar 25 16:43:45 tinya udevd-event[31220]: '[usb/]idProduct=(null)' added | 15:45 |
| asac | Mar 25 16:43:45 tinya udevd-event[31220]: will substitute format name 'attr' | 15:45 |
| asac | in syslog | 15:45 |
| Keybuk | yeah, need to look at the udevadm test output | 15:45 |
| asac | Keybuk: you wnat the long one? | 15:46 |
| Keybuk | I'm not quite sure it's right yet | 15:46 |
| Keybuk | but need to do a process of elimination to get there - since I don't have your dongle :p | 15:46 |
| asac | e.g. with UDEV_DEBUG ... i guess so | 15:46 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/udevadm2.log | 15:47 |
| asac | Keybuk: ^^ | 15:47 |
| dobey | pitti: ping | 15:48 |
| Keybuk | asac: huh | 15:49 |
| asac | Keybuk: did i do something wrong? | 15:49 |
| pedro_ | mvo: thanks you! | 15:50 |
| * mvo hugs pedro_ | 15:50 | |
| * pedro_ hugs mvo back | 15:50 | |
| Keybuk | asac: $attr{../idProduct} works though, right? :P | 15:51 |
| Keybuk | note no []s | 15:51 |
| asac | Keybuk: you mean usb/idProduct? | 15:51 |
| asac | i tried that yesterday after i found that code in udev_util | 15:52 |
| asac | or really ".."? | 15:52 |
| asac | let me try ../idProduct | 15:52 |
| Keybuk | really .. | 15:53 |
| asac | Keybuk: yeah. that did the trick. thats simple ;) | 15:53 |
| Keybuk | .. from a usb interface kobject is the usb device kobject | 15:53 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: the keyring on a normal install has basically your evolution and network manager passwords | 15:53 |
| Keybuk | ok | 15:53 |
| Keybuk | great | 15:53 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: ie wireless, email accounts, ldap and calendars server passwords too | 15:53 |
| asac | Keybuk: yeah ... is that the right fix ... is that how its ment to be or a trick? | 15:53 |
| Keybuk | that's supposed to work | 15:54 |
| asac | ok. so its not something that will suddenly will be unsupported ;) | 15:54 |
| Keybuk | ie. it's not a hack or a trick | 15:54 |
| asac | great | 15:54 |
| Keybuk | right | 15:54 |
| asac | cool. thanks for your help | 15:54 |
| asac | thats fixed then | 15:54 |
| Keybuk | I'll talk to Kay later though, because I'm not entirely convinced that this attr expansion being limited to the current device is the right behaviour | 15:54 |
| Keybuk | ATTR matches, sure | 15:54 |
| Keybuk | even ATTRS matches | 15:54 |
| Keybuk | but once you've matched, you should be able to use $attr{something-in-a-parent} | 15:54 |
| Keybuk | at least I think so :) | 15:54 |
| Keybuk | hmm, but then I suppose $env{} doesn't behave that way | 15:55 |
| Keybuk | at the very least, this type of thing should be documented with examples <g> | 15:55 |
| Keybuk | and the manpage fixed | 15:55 |
| pitti | dobey: hi | 16:01 |
| dobey | pitti: hey. i found some issues with the check command, and just pushed some fixes to my branch | 16:02 |
| dobey | pitti: and just proposed a merge for it :) | 16:03 |
| pitti | dobey: ah, nice; thanks | 16:04 |
| asac | Keybuk: i liked the manpage behaviour ;) | 16:07 |
| Keybuk | asac: it doesn't quite make sense though with the way udev tries to parse its rules | 16:07 |
| Keybuk | it's been gradually moving to a very well defined narrow behaviour | 16:08 |
| Keybuk | to avoid unexpected issues | 16:08 |
| Keybuk | esp. importance one everything currently in HAL fdi has to be rewritten as udev rules | 16:08 |
| asac | Keybuk: yes true. it was just confusing for me as an outsider reading the manpage and then not being able to access any attr from parents further up | 16:11 |
| pedro_ | MacSlow: may you look at 344888 if you have a time later? it was reopened a few hours after you closed it | 16:14 |
| pedro_ | MacSlow: bug 344888 | 16:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 344888 in notify-osd "fade when mouse cursor in/out" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/344888 | 16:14 |
| MacSlow | pedro_, *sigh* who did that? I wonder if they read this comment from Mat "Update - this won't be fixed for Jaunty (not enough time), but we'll factor that in for future development." | 16:16 |
| MacSlow | pedro_, I would set it to confirmed | 16:17 |
| pedro_ | MacSlow: Mat reopened it. Ok, I've set it to Confirmed, thanks! | 16:19 |
| Keybuk | asac: -> #udev? | 16:41 |
| seb128 | re | 17:20 |
| seb128 | ok, so how do I valgrind X? ;-) | 17:21 |
| seb128 | valgrind doesn't like the X binary setuid | 17:21 |
| seb128 | ups | 17:23 |
| seb128 | wrong channel | 17:23 |
| pitti | seb128: bug 328035 has a recipe for strace, which certainly works for valgrind as well | 17:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 328035 in xorg-server "X server crash: *** glibc detected *** free(): in valid next size (fast)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328035 | 17:47 |
| seb128 | pitti: cf #ubuntu-devel | 17:47 |
| dobey | pitti: hrmm. are you/glatzor planning to release a new version of distutils-extra soon? | 17:56 |
| pitti | dobey: yes, I'll upload it to debian tomorrow morning | 17:57 |
| pitti | dobey: and then we can sync it to jaunty after the freeze (on Friday) | 17:57 |
| dobey | pitti: ok. i was going to build a package and stick it in ppa, so i can start using it in code. | 17:59 |
| dobey | pitti: and then we can just use the jaunty version after you sync it | 17:59 |
| pitti | dobey: sure, sounds good | 17:59 |
| dobey | pitti: awesome! thanks again | 18:00 |
| pitti | dobey: uploaded to Debian now | 18:23 |
| dobey | pitti: awesome | 18:24 |
| dobey | pitti: i've put a version in my ppa too :) | 18:24 |
| jcastro | seb128: are you guys (desktop people) staying for the full desktop summit or just the first few core days? | 18:41 |
| seb128 | jcastro: dunno yet | 18:42 |
| jcastro | seb128: when you book travel can you ping me? I want to travel with the cabal. | 18:42 |
| seb128 | depends of the actual scheduling details | 18:42 |
| seb128 | ok | 18:43 |
| seb128 | I think we will discuss it during the desktop team meeting next week | 18:43 |
| jcastro | ah great, I'll just follow along the notes then | 18:43 |
| seb128 | is the detailled schedule available now? | 18:43 |
| dobey | ah crap, i need to do that | 18:43 |
| * mvo hugs pedro_ for his software-properties bug triage | 19:39 | |
| * pedro_ hugs mvo back | 19:40 | |
| pedro_ | mvo: btw could you look at bug 308920 ? ;-) | 19:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 308920 in update-notifier "Add option to not check/download updates automatically when using mobile broadband" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308920 | 19:40 |
| * seb128 hugs mvo pedro_ | 19:40 | |
| * pedro_ hugs seb128 | 19:40 | |
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| cj | awwww | 22:55 |
| === bluesmoke_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| Laney | bratsche: What should be done for the gnome-user-share bug? | 23:39 |
| Laney | Is the patch right? | 23:39 |
| bratsche | Laney: Let me take a look.. do you have the url handy? | 23:50 |
| bratsche | I found it | 23:51 |
| bratsche | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-share/+bug/337352 ? | 23:51 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 337352 in gnome-user-share "gnome-user-share notification changes" [Medium,Confirmed] | 23:51 |
| bratsche | Laney: If that's the one you mean, then no.. I think this patch is incorrect. I'll try to post a new one. | 23:54 |
| bratsche | Sorry this one kind of fell off my radar. I'll try to implement the new specification soon. | 23:55 |
| Laney | bratsche: (bug 337352) | 23:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 337352 in gnome-user-share "gnome-user-share notification changes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/337352 | 23:56 |
| Laney | I'll unsubscribe the sponsors then. Please resubscribe when ready | 23:56 |
| bratsche | Thanks. | 23:57 |
| bratsche | Sorry for the trouble. | 23:57 |
| Laney | no problem at all | 23:57 |
| bratsche | I'm still kind of new at Ubuntu, figuring how how to work in Launchpad still. :) | 23:57 |
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