[02:47] <James1324> hello
[02:48] <persia> James1324, Hello.
[02:49] <James1324> well I've asked this question in a more general forum
[02:49] <James1324> this is more specific so I'll ask here :)
[02:49] <James1324> can I create a Java Service in LInux?
[02:50] <James1324> something like a windows Service but for java
[02:50] <James1324> but for Linux***
[02:52] <persia> I don't think I understand your terminology.  You can create a Java application that runs under linux and listens for instructions on a network port.
[02:52] <persia> But I'm not sure that this is the best channel to ask the question.  ##java would probably be better.
[02:53] <James1324> ahh okay thanks
[03:25] <James1324> persia I found the proper terminology
[03:25] <James1324> I'm trying to create a Java Servlet in Ubuntu
[03:25] <James1324> I have apache installed but apparently I need "JSERV" are you familiar with this?
[03:30] <persia> OK.
[03:30] <persia> I'd recommend installing tomcat5.5
[03:30] <persia> But that's just a personal recommendation.
[03:31] <persia> That would give you a servlet container, and then you can put your servlets there.
[03:31] <persia> Details on how to write a servlet are better discussed on ##java, but if you're having issues with getting the container installed, we can probably help.
[03:32] <James1324> is ##java a private channel?
[03:32] <James1324> I can't join it
[03:32] <James1324> or its not there
[03:33] <persia> It's not a private channel.  You need to be registered with nickserv.  /msg nickserv help
[03:38] <James1324> thanks persia, Tomcat looks nice
[03:38] <James1324> and it should do the trick
[05:33] <persia> StevenK, so you've dared to look at visualvm :)
[05:33] <StevenK> And I'm quite tempted to run screaming.
[05:34] <persia> So, in Debian, netbeans isn't available.
[05:34] <persia> As a result, the embedded jars game gets played a lot.
[05:35] <persia> But we have a new (updated) netbeans in Ubuntu, and so things that built against the netbeans libraries ought to be able to build against libnd-platform9-java in jaunty.
[05:36] <persia> Err.  libnb-platform9-java
[05:36]  * StevenK nods
[05:37] <persia> So, as a first pass, try rebuilding it against the newer library.
[05:37] <persia> It may be that the source doesn't match, for various reasons (the change from 8 to 9 was an incompatible API change).
[05:38] <persia> And because of how the package is constructed, you'll need many of the build-dependencies installed locally to be able to build source.
[05:38] <StevenK> I've updated Build-Depends, and changed debian/rules, and it still fails looking for platform8
[05:40] <persia> RIght.  You need to update the platform.properties files.  Take a look at patches/icedtea-visualvm.patch
[05:42] <StevenK> I've edited that too
[05:42] <persia> And it still fails looking for platform8?!?
[05:43] <persia> If you got a compilation failure, I'd understand.  I'm *really* not understanding the build failure because of missing platform8.
[05:43] <StevenK> /build/steven-visualvm_0.20080728-1ubuntu2-amd64-1Me4Lc/visualvm-0.20080728-1ubuntu2/netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:87: No such classpath entry: /build/steven-visualvm_0.20080728-1ubuntu2-amd64-1Me4Lc/visualvm-0.20080728-1ubuntu2/netbeans/nbbuild/netbeans/platform8/modules/org-jdesktop-layout.jar
[05:47] <persia> I see it now.
[05:48] <persia> You'll need to patch a host of stuff currently in netbeans-6.1-200805300101-basic_cluster-src.zip
[05:49] <StevenK> So I need to come up with a patch and then add it into debian/rules?
[05:51] <persia> I think so.
[05:51] <persia> Either that, or create a netbeans.clusters package, as from the netbeans wiki, it's still on the TODO list.
[05:51] <persia> I'd recommend creating an ugly patch, personally.
[05:51] <StevenK> A patch seems less work
[05:51] <persia> It's late enough in the cycle that doing it right just causes pain.
[05:52]  * StevenK waits for his CPU to become free
[05:52] <persia> But be warned that platform8 -> platform9 was an API change, so even with such a patch, the build may fail, but at least it will fail in code, rather than in the build system.
[22:50] <bun-bun> hi, if i am going to install the sun-java jre and jdk should i first remove the default java packages installed by ubuntu?
[23:45] <maxb> It's not necessary to do so.
[23:46] <maxb> If you know for certain you have no use for non-Sun Java, then you might want to for tidyness' sake, or to save diskspace.