[03:26] <gnomefreak> !codecs
[07:42] <gnomefreak> asac: where are we forwarding the icedove comments to ML? i know we are defering them but to where?
[08:30] <asac> gnomefreak: for now we let them in
[08:30] <asac> gnomefreak: i will change maintainer again to not use mozillateam
[08:30] <asac> as it turned out to be unusable
[08:31] <gnomefreak> ok ill accept them than
[08:31] <gnomefreak> thanks
[08:32] <gnomefreak> this guy has to be fucking kidding :( look at the extension this guy lists and im sure you can see what is causing his issue atleast one of them :) bug 347599
[08:34] <gnomefreak> damn kees seems to like assigning you to bugs
[08:43] <asac> ok so i owned xulrunner for a few minutes only to find out that mike orphaned it for other reasons
[08:49]  * gnomefreak hates sunbird i got a FTBFS but its not an error in what i changed mind you this already built fine for PPA but im going to grab PPA source since i cant even get a tarvall using get-orig source but im going to try that again
[08:57] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~/test/work/ubuntu-0.x$ ./debian/rules get-orig-source
[08:57] <gnomefreak> cd: 1: can't cd to build-tree/mozilla
[08:57] <gnomefreak> that is not nice
[08:57] <gnomefreak> make: *** No rule to make target `get-orig-source'.  Stop.
[08:58] <gnomefreak> oh maybe because when i was trying to get 1.0 i had added the 2 lines but i didnt push them to branch since it wouldnt pull in 1.0
[09:00] <gnomefreak> i got bugabundo's ban removed so please let him knwo if im not here.
[09:11] <gnomefreak> i should be back again once this finishes however i have 2 meetings today
[09:43] <quadrispro> hi guys
[09:43] <quadrispro> i'm working on iceweasel-linky
[09:44] <quadrispro> it's my first attempt to port a extension from debian (iceweasel browser) to ubuntu (firefox)
[09:44] <quadrispro> can anyone give me an help?
[09:45] <quadrispro> I've prepared a debdiff -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/137347/
[09:45] <quadrispro> but before uploading it I would like to get some feedback :)
[09:47] <quadrispro> I've also tested the package, it works fine
[09:55] <gnomefreak> asac: do you see something im missing http://pastebin.mozilla.org/636476 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/636477 im not sure how the failure to build has anything to do with the --enable-official-branding
[09:55] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: just behave is all i ask :)
[09:56] <gnomefreak> maybe a cinflict in flags?
[09:57] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: :) don't I always? :)
[09:57] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:01] <gnomefreak> asac: other than not seeing a place to use the ac_add_options i added it under config flags with the reast of the --enable --disable
[10:01] <gnomefreak> maybe i need it above that part. need to check
[10:06] <gnomefreak> the problem i have with that is i dont see ac_add_options in seamonkey however i see things like EXTRA_SYSTEM_CONFIGURE_FLAGS += --with-system-nss with other things pertaining to nss also has them for nsrp and some others however the branding isnt on the maybe due to it being pre release
[10:09] <gnomefreak> i remember seeing the ac_add_options on one of our packages
[10:11]  * gnomefreak grabs the 3 others to see what one it was in and how it was stated
[10:12] <gnomefreak> something like # official branding for beta, final and final RCs builds BRANDING = --enable-official-branding DESKTOP_BRANDED  = $(DEBIAN_NAME)-final.desktop
[10:13] <gnomefreak> look right but i remember ac_add_options from one of the packages
[10:15] <gnomefreak> nope seems im right thunderbird 2.0 has --enable-official-branding \ under config options
[10:15] <gnomefreak> so why the fuck is it failing
[10:23] <gnomefreak> sad part is im using source from Jaunty universe so it has to be my change i would think or placment of it or you font uploads caused this not sure how fonts could cause this
[10:23] <asac> gnomefreak: please paste bzr diff
[10:24] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~/test/work/ubuntu-0.x$ bzr diff
[10:24] <gnomefreak> Format <RepositoryFormatKnit1> for file:///home/gnomefreak/test/work/ubuntu-0.x/.bzr/ is deprecated - please use 'bzr upgrade' to get better performance
[10:24] <gnomefreak> cant as you can see
[10:25] <gnomefreak> running bzr upgrade but that shouldn't make a difference
[10:27] <gnomefreak> nope cant i dont get anything when i run it (maybe because i only commited
[10:27] <asac> gnomefreak: you need to diff your commit
[10:28] <asac> read bzr help diff
[10:28] <asac> you can diff individual revisions or revision ranges
[10:29] <BUGabundo> Serious bug: need confirmation:
[10:29] <gnomefreak> Shows the difference in the working tree versus the last commit:
[10:29] <gnomefreak> bzr diff
[10:29] <BUGabundo> OOo Calc no longer allows to drag a cell?????
[10:29] <gnomefreak> that should have worked but i will try using the commit revision
[10:32] <gnomefreak> asac: heres the diff http://pastebin.mozilla.org/636479
[10:33] <asac> gnomefreak: and that doesnt work?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> asac: no i wish it did
[10:33] <gnomefreak> asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/636476 is the error im getting but i dont see how they are connected
[10:34] <asac> gnomefreak: ouch
[10:34] <asac> gnomefreak: drop the anymetrics patch
[10:34] <gnomefreak> ok will try that
[10:36] <asac> gnomefreak: does tbird fail in the same way?
[10:36] <gnomefreak> asac: didnt try
[10:37] <BUGabundo> fta: major security bug on gwibber. making a big Search lead to ubuntu reboot #DoS
[10:38] <asac> what is a "big search"
[10:39] <gnomefreak> ok retesting sunbird
[10:40] <gnomefreak> ok be back going for coffee and breakfast at very least coffee and some smokes
[10:40] <BUGabundo> asac: let me count it all
[10:41] <BUGabundo> I was porting my identispy tracks to it
[10:41] <asac> BUGabundo: err. what is a big search
[10:41] <asac> i dont understand that notion
[10:41] <asac> all searches have the same number of results here
[10:41] <asac> unless there are not enough results of course
[10:42] <BUGabundo> no no
[10:42] <BUGabundo> its the number of parameters
[10:42] <BUGabundo> ubuntu OR jaunty OR identica, bla bla
[10:42] <BUGabundo> .pt OR 127.0.0.1 OR 192.168. OR 255 OR 8.04 OR 8.10 OR 8.1 OR 8.4 OR 9.04 OR 9.4 OR 9.10 OR 9.1 OR aniv OR apt OR asac OR bill gates OR birth OR birthday OR canonical OR chrom OR dm OR domain OR dropbox OR empathy OR evan OR firefox OR fon OR free OR gnu OR gondomar OR google OR gtalk OR gwibber OR gwiber OR hardy OR hashtags OR hellotxt OR hosting OR ibex OR indentspy OR intrepid OR ipv4 OR ipv6 OR jaiku OR jaunty OR jackalo
[10:42] <BUGabundo> this big search
[10:44] <BUGabundo> I'll have to retrace the crash locally to sent to LP
[10:44] <BUGabundo> 893 chars btw
[11:01] <asac> gwibber is python
[11:01] <asac> no need to retrace locally
[11:01] <BUGabundo> humm
[11:01] <BUGabundo> but LP won't accept it (via apport)
[11:01] <BUGabundo> its a daily deb
[11:01] <BUGabundo> not the Archive version
[11:04] <asac> BUGabundo: install archive version ... and reproduce then?
[11:05] <BUGabundo> eheh
[11:05] <BUGabundo> not funny crash/reboot laptop
[11:05] <BUGabundo> plus gwibber isn't starting now
[11:05] <BUGabundo> the Search query is inside it
[11:06] <asac> yes .... dump your profile and start over ;)?
[11:06] <asac> actually i would suggest that you go directly to gwibber folks
[11:07] <BUGabundo> well the prob is with ubuntu
[11:08] <BUGabundo> no userspace app should DoS and reboot the system
[12:06] <asac> BUGabundo: thats true. usually its a graphics driver issue that pollutes kernel land through the xorg bridge
[12:06] <BUGabundo> but this was gwibber
[12:07] <BUGabundo> or at least killing it
[12:08] <asac> gwibber triggered it
[12:08] <asac> but it doesnt reset your system i guess ;)
[12:08] <BUGabundo> I do use NVidia
[12:09] <asac> yes. nvidia is a source of instability
[12:09] <BUGabundo> I did it twice
[12:09] <BUGabundo> haven't tried to start gwibber again
[12:09] <BUGabundo> so until I find a way to dump the query from settings
[12:09] <BUGabundo> I won't start it again
[12:09] <BUGabundo> gconf has nothing
[12:09] <BUGabundo> and the guys at #gwibber are MUTE
[12:14] <fta2> hi
[12:14] <BUGabundo> hey fta
[12:15] <fta2> asac, so, what about n-m? what am i supposed to do now?
[12:15] <asac> fta2: you want a quick fix?
[12:15] <asac> write a script that checks whether you have ttyUSB0 in the path passed as parameter
[12:15] <fta2> i don't need that today, but i need reliable 3G before my holidays
[12:16] <asac> yeah in order to test the real connectivity we need to trick udev
[12:16] <asac> it seems there is a udev bug that prevents attributes to be digged from parent devices
[12:16] <asac> like: udevadm info -a -p $(udevadm info -q path -n /dev/ttyUSB0)
[12:16] <asac> if you run that
[12:17] <asac> you see that idVendor is defined in the parent of the device that has the bInterfaceNumber entry (which works)
[12:17] <fta2> am i the only one seeing that?
[12:17] <asac> no
[12:17] <asac> i would say that 3G is busted in general atm
[12:18] <fta2> at this stage of jaunty, i would say it's bad
[12:19] <BUGabundo> me 2
[12:22] <fta2> damn, this will break the dailies: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/e114eae147469617
[12:25] <BUGabundo> heh
[12:38] <fta2> asac, you mean that i should write a script to replace the nm-modem-probe call in the udev rules.d file; that scripts would just be a wrapper around nm-modem-probe, and using udevadmin to get the right parameters, is that correct?
[12:38] <fta2> s/scripts/script/
[12:44] <asac> fta2: thats one option to workaround yes.
[12:44] <asac> fta2: the other way would be to fix the prober
[12:44] <asac> %p
[12:44] <asac> -> /dev/ttyUSB0
[12:44] <asac> i think
[12:44] <asac> you can use that path and gather the right info manually in the prober
[12:45] <asac> i guess we should do that
[12:45] <asac> for now you write a wrapper
[12:45] <asac> i will talk to dan
[12:50] <asac> fta2: bug 346835
[12:50] <asac> if you come up with such a script consider to attach it there
[15:45] <bdrung> asac: can you please have a look at bug #340435?
[15:48] <fta2> asac, when i resume, n-m crashes
[15:49] <asac> you got a crash file you could get a backtrace on?
[15:50] <fta2> it's in my netbook, no network :P
[15:52] <kbrosnan> I'm looking for info on why Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009030422 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.7 does not crash on fullscreen flash video e.g. youtube. whereas any mozilla build crashes. is there something that can upstreamed?
[16:03] <asac> fta2: submitted fix to NM mailing list
[16:05] <fta2> ?
[16:05] <fta2> what? where?
[16:05] <asac> http://pastebin.com/f62adb562
[16:06] <asac> fta2: its just ../idProduct and ../idVendor
[16:06] <asac> ;)
[16:06] <asac> yes. its really that simple
[16:06] <fta2> oh, i had my wrapper almost done :P
[16:06] <asac> ;)
[16:06] <asac> hehe
[16:06] <asac> yeah. that change is even simpler i guess
[16:07] <BUGabundo> nice asac
[16:09] <fta2> found serial (udev:GSM  hal:GSM)
[16:10] <fta2> pppd[]: Modem hangup
[16:11] <fta2> so i'm back to square one
[16:11] <asac> fta2: at least you are out of hell ;)
[16:12] <asac> standing on the ground in front of tiny hill
[16:12] <asac> fta2: so did you use the broadband wizard
[16:12] <asac> to create your connection?
[16:12] <asac> please go to the connection and chck that there is a APN setup
[16:12] <asac> also check that there is something in the username/password field
[16:18] <fta2> i used the wizard
[16:19] <BUGabundo> asac: why did the wizard lost the hability to identify country?
[16:19] <fta2> asac, there's  just Number, APN and PIN
[16:19] <BUGabundo> mine would go to Portugal
[16:19] <BUGabundo> now I have to scroll the entire List
[16:21] <asac> fta2: yeah. set someething as username password
[16:22] <asac> username: god
[16:22] <asac> pasowrd: like
[16:22] <asac> ;)
[16:25] <fta2> same
[16:29] <fta_nano> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/137589/
[16:37] <fta2> asac, same with my 2 SIMs :(
[16:46] <asac> i would suggest that you ask on #nm directly ... at this stage i can just proxy ;)
[16:46] <asac> dcbw is the master
[16:46] <asac> but we are currently into something udev related so he might be  abit distracted ;)
[16:49] <BUGabundo> asac: we you are not availble can we go there direclty?
[16:49] <BUGabundo> or are changes on Ubuntu that they will not want to know?
[16:54] <asac> BUGabundo: depends... better ask here first
[16:55] <fta2> it's quiet in there
[16:55] <BUGabundo> "when you are not available"
[17:04] <asac> BUGabundo: i am usually available, but also note that you are a free man ;) ... just try that when you ask that you have the system in front of you to test ... thats help efficiency
[17:05] <BUGabundo> asac: didn't I slip a s/they/you/ in there?
[17:05] <BUGabundo> ehe
[17:06] <asac> huh?
[17:07] <BUGabundo> nevermind
[17:13] <asac> BUGabundo: so the /topic in #nm reads: " NetworkManager IRC channel.  Stop by and bitch, moan, rave, flame, suggest, request, patch, anything you like."
[17:13] <asac> sounds like the place you want to be ;)
[17:13] <asac> lol
[17:19] <BUGabundo> ehehhe
[17:19] <BUGabundo> indeed
[17:19] <BUGabundo> my kinda place
[17:21] <fta2> it looks like a dead place
[17:21] <fta2> so yes, you can bitch, moan, rave, flame, suggest, request, patch as much as you want, noone will complain ;)
[17:35] <asac> well.
[17:36] <asac> not every channel can  be as active as the mozillatem one ;)
[17:38] <asac> i guess i should get a huawei thing
[17:38] <asac> or 10 ;)
[17:40] <fta2> here, i'm not sure it's the hardware. looks like it's the isp
[17:40] <fta2> if only i knew how to sniff that under xp
[17:40] <asac> yes
[17:40] <asac> i am sure its the isp
[17:41] <fta2> i preserved xp in my netbook for that reason
[17:41] <asac> i had that for a while
[17:41] <asac> and it just went a way
[17:41] <asac> luckily for me it worked when trying to conncet like 5 times
[17:41] <asac> but now... i cannot break it anymore :
[17:41] <asac> (
[17:42] <asac> fta2: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/usb/usbsnoop.txt
[17:42] <asac> http://www.jespersaur.com/drupal/book/export/html/21
[17:42] <asac> http://sourceforge.net/projects/usbsnoop/
[17:43] <asac> last link seems to be "snoop pro"
[17:43] <fta2> will try once i home
[17:43] <fta2> cu
[17:43] <BUGabundo> fta I've seen many ISP requiring stuff like DNS servers on the cong
[17:43] <BUGabundo> *conf
[18:00] <BUGabundo> guys see you tomorrow
[18:50] <BUGabundo> asac: ping
[18:50] <BUGabundo> back for a bit
[18:51] <BUGabundo> I'm with one of those SiS based laptops I mention
[18:51] <BUGabundo> *mentioned
[18:51] <BUGabundo> WiFi will see network and even get an IP
[18:51] <BUGabundo> but will not have network
[18:51] <BUGabundo> what did you ask for me to log?
[21:24] <fta_nano> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/137775/
[21:26] <asac> fta_nano: cool
[21:26] <asac> so its really long negotiation
[21:27] <fta> just swapped sim, it fails
[21:27] <fta> i didn't change anything
[21:27] <asac> fta_nano: because of long negotiation?
[21:28] <fta> asac, what was i supposed to change?
[21:29] <asac> fta: the ipcp- configs in options
[21:29] <asac> fta: well. only if it fails after 9 Nacks
[21:29] <asac> i mean: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0xa <addr 10.24.2.200> <ms-dns1 194.51.3.56>]
[21:29] <asac> that would have ment a hang up
[21:29] <asac> the default for retries of ipcp is 10
[21:30] <asac> and you needed 0xb = 11 roounds
[21:31] <fta> but the next failed with 0x8
[21:40] <asac> fta: so you have a username/password set ?
[21:40] <asac> i dont see it in log
[21:40] <asac> thought i would see it there
[21:42] <fta_nano> asac, one that fails: http://paste.ubuntu.com/137785/
[21:42] <asac> As for parameters, in France APN is "orange.ie", USER and PASS should be empty (no use) and PIN is "0000".
[21:43] <asac> maybe your APN is wrong?
[21:43] <fta> i have orange.fr, orange / orange
[21:44] <asac> fta: with .fr?
[21:44] <fta> it worked once
[21:44] <fta> yes
[21:46] <asac> fta: ok. i guess you tried to remove everything ? e.g. remove apn, remove username/password, set PPP Automatic in IP Address tab
[21:47] <asac> basically remove everything but the #99*
[21:47] <asac> it even works here
[21:47] <asac> because NM probes for the right APN from sim card
[21:51] <fta> it seems my wifi is not stable
[21:56] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/137794/
[21:57] <fta> that's with just #99*
[21:59] <asac> yeah i am talking bullshit
[21:59] <asac> you need to remove libmbca0 i guess
[22:00] <asac> remove all connections and plug in the dongle
[22:00] <asac> to get a auto connection
[22:00] <asac> only that detects the apn and other data autoamtically
[22:00] <[reed]> asac / fta: we're firedrilling
[22:00] <[reed]> releasing 3.0.8 early next week
[22:00] <[reed]> so, be ready
[22:00] <asac> thanks
[22:13] <fta_nano> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/137804/ without libmbca0 and an empty profile
[22:19] <fta> the usb sniffers didn't help. just got some packets during the plug, but nothing related to the modem dialog
[22:52] <asac> fta: only thing i can now think of to move forward is to somehow enable all debug details also on kernel side
[22:53] <asac> kdebug option
[22:53] <asac> and hopet hat we can decipher whats going on
[22:53] <asac> use kdebug 3 maybe
[22:55] <asac> but i have no clue atm where that log goes to
[22:57] <asac> fta: i also found some folks on net that said they need mtu 1452 in options
[22:57] <asac> for huawei
[22:57] <asac> orange
[23:05] <fta> asac, why would it work "sometimes" then?
[23:15] <asac__> when did asac_ join?
[23:17] <asac_> ok
[23:17] <asac_> seems my dns update failed
[23:18] <asac_> 00:05 < fta> asac, why would it work "sometimes" then?
[23:18] <asac_> i honestly cant tell ;)
[23:18] <asac_> its stabbing in the dark and searching the net
[23:18] <asac_> unless we can see more details we have no info
[23:18] <fta> [00:12] * asac_ (n=asac@e177162084.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam
[23:18] <fta> [00:15] * asac__ (n=asac@e179172170.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam
[23:18] <asac_> yeah
[23:19] <asac_> seems my AP dns cache doesnt update properly here ;)
[23:19] <fta> kdebug 7 seems to be doing nothing
[23:19] <asac_> yeah
[23:19] <asac_> maybe kernel doesnt have that built in or something :(
[23:21] <asac_> there are definitly reports that say that som APNs seem to need lower MTU
[23:29] <fta> asac, if i set the dns in the nm-applet, why does it continue to negotiate them /w ipcp?
[23:30] <asac> 23:13 < fta_nano> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/137804/ without libmbca0 and an empty profile
[23:30] <asac> that connection is named Orange 3G
[23:31] <asac> it should have been a "Auto"
[23:31] <asac> connection
[23:31] <asac> you used the same as before
[23:31] <fta> hmm
[23:31] <fta> there's no auto anywhere
[23:31] <asac> fta: yes. because you didnt remove all your 3g connections
[23:32] <asac> you have to remove all
[23:32] <asac> then plug in
[23:32] <asac> and it will generate an auto connection
[23:32] <asac> that will use the info on sim
[23:32] <asac> Auto GSM Connection
[23:33] <asac> fta: i think it negotiates dns because we dont tell it to not do that
[23:33] <asac> only thing we do is ignore what we get and use whatever you set up
[23:33] <asac> so we probably would have to pass ms-dns1 ADDRESS1
[23:33] <asac> you can also set that in options to test
[23:34] <fta> extracted the key, removed the profile, inserted the key, pouf n-m applet disappeared
[23:35] <asac> yes
[23:35] <asac> thats ok ;)
[23:35] <asac> i mean its bad
[23:35] <asac> yes
[23:37] <fta> how do i restart it?
[23:37] <asac> nm-applet
[23:37] <asac> so the options dns options are ment for server
[23:37] <asac> usepeerdns is the option we send
[23:42] <asac> http://pastebin.com/f6c4f0cf6
[23:42] <asac> that should kill the dns ;)
[23:44]  * asac kills his dns 
[23:50] <asac> dropping usepeerdns doesnt work
[23:50] <asac> e.g. it still gets dns
[23:50] <fta> too bad neither -usepeerdns, nor nousepeerdns, nor usepeerdns 0 are valid
[23:51] <asac> but
[23:51] <asac> its now much quicker ;)
[23:51] <asac> i mean i have only 1 negotiation round
[23:51] <asac> instead of 6
[23:51] <asac> try the patch ;)
[23:51] <asac> maybe usepeerdns is yet another misunderstood option
[23:51] <fta> i should add a build env in my netbook
[23:55] <asac> fta: plug in a wired cable. configure that as a adhoc net
[23:55] <asac> and install ssh server ;)
[23:55] <asac> typing on netbook is painful imo
[23:56] <fta> i already have an ssh server, that's the 1st thing i added
[23:57] <asac> heh ;)
[23:57] <asac> yeah. but plugging in cable helps to keep net up
[23:59] <asac> its really mysterious why it still gets dns from pee
[23:59] <asac> r
[23:59] <asac> seems usepeerdns is really a hoak
[23:59] <asac> hoax