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stgraberslangasek: I finished preparing the update, it'll likely be applied early London time, anything else you want to change ? (Want a preview of all the tests that'll be available ?)00:04
slangaseknothing else I need changed besides what's already been mentioned; no need to give me a preview, thanks00:06
* heno takes studio 32 and 6400:30
slangasekthose are just about to be rerolled00:30
slangasek(lmms Recommends: wine, ubuntustudio blacklisted it; lmms package just accepted, so will be rerolled in about an hour)00:31
slangasekbut I also don't think they've been smoketested yet...00:31
henoslangasek: ok, thanks. the install is running in a VM so I'll let it carry on anyway00:34
heno64 bit upgrade testing complete01:34
* heno wanders off to bed01:34
nullackslangasek: Gday :) Just a quick note that printing is still broken for myself and other users on Jaunty. Its bug #31410604:41
ubot4Launchpad bug 314106 in cups "Printer not connected" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31410604:41
nullackI've nominated it for the Jaunty release04:41
quietasHey folks, is there a way to do an online dist upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 without doing 8.10 in the middle05:42
slangasekdirect upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04 is not supported, no.  It may work, or it may not; that doesn't get tested.05:46
nullackslangasek: Steve you there?06:33
slangasekyep06:33
nullackslangasek: sorry phone one min06:34
nullackslangasek: The symptoms of the bug are the same, if you like I can create a seperate bug06:37
slangasekthe symptoms are rather broad; I imagine a separate bug report is appropriate06:37
nullackslangasek: Of the users reporting the problem on the forums, so far Ive identified three hardware models not working06:37
nullackslangasek: One forum member mentioned installing some packages as a possible fix which I will try and report results06:38
slangaseksounds good06:38
nullackslangasek: Ok mate Ill give that a go and report06:38
nullackslangasek: Hmm unfortunately that didnt work. So I'll create a new bug on your request. With the three printer models I know didnt work, is that enough to meet the release blocker policy Steve?06:48
slangasekthat still doesn't make it a release blocker; it is something that should get more attention for release though06:57
nullackslangasek: Is the release blocker criteria documented anywhere so I know for future reference?06:58
slangasekhmm, not as such07:00
nullackslangasek: Convenient for you :)07:04
aragood morning all :-)07:11
nullackara Evening Ara07:16
arahey nullack, how are you doing?07:16
nullackAra Im great :) Looking forward to beta07:16
aranullack: yes, almost there :-)07:16
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sbeattieUmmkay. I'm doing a stress test upgrade from intrepid to jaunty, and update-manager just told me it hit an error and couldn't continue... except that it *is* continuing. Odd.07:55
mvosbeattie: its lying07:57
mvosbeattie: its doing that sometime :)07:57
sbeattiealas, the logging *does* appear to have ended.07:57
mvosbeattie: but you are right, the message is misleading - could you please make the /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log and apt-term.log availalbe? I would like to have a look07:57
sbeattiemvo: you want them in a bug report or just available?07:58
mvosbeattie: both is fine, bug might be easier for tracking (and putting it into the iso tracker)08:00
aradoes anyone know how to "untell" apport to ignore crashes of "x" version of a software?08:04
sbeattiemvo: bug 34832208:11
ubot4Launchpad bug 348322 in update-manager "[intrepid-jaunty upgrade] update-manager claimed it couldn't continue, but appears to be doing so anyway" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34832208:11
sbeattieand now whiptail has tried to prompt me, but it and update-manager are no longer on speaking terms. :-)08:17
mvohow so, you can't enter anything in the terminal?08:19
sbeattiethe terminal widget in update-manager is completely disconnect from whatever's happening in the upgrade process.08:20
mvosbeattie: is there another dialog window open somewhere from u-m ?08:21
sbeattieno popup, no nothing, but whiptail was wanting to ask me about dovecot.conf, based on ps output.08:22
mvosbeattie: and no terminal input whatsoever? hrm, that should work08:33
sbeattienot sure what you mean, but I have no means of interacting with whiptail prompts; I had to kill whiptail to get the upgrade process to continue.08:35
davmor2morning all08:36
* davmor2 tip toes off to cdimages to ensure slangasek has respun the images while he's been asleep :D08:37
davmor2s/gas/hasn't08:37
davmor2has even08:37
* ara takes a break08:42
davmor2hi heno08:47
henohi davmor208:47
davmor2right need to take my wife to a meeting then I'll takle Kubuntu08:47
henook, cool08:47
* heno takes edubuntu 6408:48
henoedubuntu upgrade that is08:48
mvosbeattie: 2009-03-24 23:54:47,703 ERROR got an error from dpkg for pkg: 'python': 'subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 408:48
mvooh well08:48
mvopython08:48
mvoso it crashes because it can not byte compile some package on python2.608:49
* mvo wishes we had a more robust python08:50
sbeattiemvo: that occurred a while before update-manager claimed it couldn't continue, but yeah.08:51
mvozope2.10 or qmtest08:51
mvoqmtest08:51
mvoso python2.6 tries to byte-compile the old version and that fails08:52
mvoI will put the information needed into the bugreport08:53
* heno takes ubuntu DVD 64-bit Live and Desktop install08:58
loolstgraber, plars: What was the conclusion on UNR testcases?  Is this pending a DB merge from IS?09:17
* davmor2 is back and start on Kubutnu09:46
mvosbeattie: I'm testing a fix for the qmtest failure now, I have no idea why the terminal was in this bad state :/09:51
* davmor2 starts with Kubuntu dvd 64bit as it is the only one with no tests 09:54
henolool: correct. agy has the updates and is working on it.10:03
loolheno: thanks10:04
* ara takes kubuntu alternate i386 (entire disk with encrypted home)10:14
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* davmor2 takes wubi on Kubuntu too10:17
aracjwatson: ping11:43
aracjwatson (and others): I just installed alternate in Spanish and I got this bug in localization:11:47
arahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/34839311:47
ubot4Launchpad bug 348393 in debian-installer "[jaunty] Installing in a language other than English, will install English language packages" [Undecided,New]11:47
cjwatsonara: intentional11:51
cjwatsonara: Matt explicitly asked for that to be the case in 200411:51
aracjwatson: OK. I don't understand the reason behind, but you can mark it as invalid, then :)11:52
cjwatsonara: oh, well, if Spanish language packs *aren't* installed, that's a bug11:52
cjwatsonara: can I have /var/log/installer/syslog attached to the bug please?11:52
aracjwatson: ah, ok. I was wondering why it wasn't a bug :D . I will attach it, sure11:53
cjwatsonara: I hadn't quite loaded the bug yet and the title made it sound as if the problem was that English language packs were installed *in addition*11:53
aracjwatson: ah, ok. I was wondering why it wasn't a bug :D . I will attach it, sure11:54
araI already said that :D11:54
* ara needs to improve her bug-report summaries11:55
aracjwatson: attached, thanks :)12:01
* heno tests studio 6412:24
faderThen I'll test the i386 :)12:27
mdzthe "free software only" test case links to the NetbootARM wiki page - I assume this is a bug?12:33
davmor2mdz stands a good chance12:33
mdzcjwatson: what's the correct way to do the free software only install?12:33
cjwatsonselect it from F6 on the CD boot menu12:34
davmor2mdz: hit F6 hit the down arrow till you get to freesoftware only hit enter to select it, hit esc, hit enter 2 times away you go :)12:34
* ara -> lunch12:36
davmor2slangasek: I've not added the wubi issues again I thought you'd get them from the first 312:36
mdzdavmor2,cjwatson: thanks12:37
eeejayhowdy12:39
eeejayyo ara12:39
* heno takes edubuntu-addon 6412:39
davmor2eeejay: ara = Lunch12:40
eeejaydavmor2: ah, thanks12:40
stgraberhey there12:56
davmor2stgraber: Dude :)12:57
* davmor2 takes kubuntu alt 64bit13:05
faderDoes Ubuntu Studio even have a resize disk install option?  I don't see it.13:06
davmor2fader: is it list as install along side13:07
faderdavmor2: Thanks, I'll look for that on my next run13:07
davmor2fader: also are you running it in vm in which case it will be a blank disc :)13:07
davmor2so you wont need to resize :)13:08
faderdavmor2: I'm running it in a VM, but running it over top of older installs, so it should pick up that something's partitioned and there (I assume)13:08
faderThat's what I was doing with the desktop testing and that worked :)13:08
davmor2fader: this is a text based installer correct13:10
faderdavmor2: Correct13:10
davmor2fader: d-i has a different way of dealing with it I think it'll only offer it if there is a partition there to resize  cjwatson is that correct?13:11
tuxibhi all13:11
davmor2tuxib: hello13:12
cjwatsonfader: there are a few constraints (but davmor2 is incorrect in saying that d-i and ubiquity have different logic here - they should be the same in terms of whether they offer this option)13:14
davmor2fader: Oh well there you go :)13:16
tuxibhope you're all well. forgive me. new to this but I'd like to get involved with testing and help out. Is this the correct place to ask 'how'?13:16
fadercjwatson: I'll look in a few minutes when I re-run the installer and see if I was just looking for the wrong option... if I don't see it I'll whine again. :)13:16
davmor2tuxib: Yeap13:16
cjwatsonfader: (a) you must have an extended partition already, or else must have a free primary partition slot (i.e. you can't just have four primary partitions); (b) you must have an existing resizable partition with at least 3GB of free space on it13:18
faderAhh... I might not have enough space remaining13:19
cjwatsonfader: it's not intrinsically a bug if auto-resize isn't offered, although it may be. The partman log will let me easily see what's going on13:19
faderI'll fake it out by manually partitioning on my next run and leaving a primary slot open13:19
faderIt's on a 4G virtual disk, so it's entirely likely that there's less than 3G free13:20
cjwatsonoh, yes, almost certain13:20
cjwatsonmost people don't run into the primary partitions constraint; I just mention it for completeness13:20
tuxibthanks, so where do i start?13:21
tuxibbtw, I've got about 5 years experience with Linux and about 2.5 with Ubuntu specifically13:23
fadercjwatson: thanks.  Next time I'll use a bigger disk too :)13:27
fadertuxib: If you have some spare hardware (or a virtual machine) and the bandwidth to pull down an ISO or two we'd love to have you help do some ISO testing.13:32
tuxibsure, I use virtual machine. Although I've got another 2.5" disk I could chuck into my laptop if need be13:33
tuxibbandwidth isn't a problem13:33
fadertuxib: Great! :)  Can you hop over to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ and create an account?13:34
tuxibyou want me to have a look at Alpha 6?13:34
faderThen you can sign up for testing of ISOs, or just grab one and go to it.13:34
faderWe're actually testing the spins for the beta13:34
faderSo you get to beta test the beta :)13:35
fadertuxib: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures13:36
faderThis has a lot of info about what we're doing13:36
tuxibwoohoo, how privilledged. Although some may argue fedora core users are always running/testing betas :D13:36
faderHeheh13:37
tuxibguess I should sign up to launchpad too?13:40
fadertuxib: That'd be a good idea so you can report bugs. :)13:42
fader(Not that there are any bugs, of course.)13:42
henocould someone try an encrypted UbuntuStudio install on real HW?13:42
henoI get bug 348445 on vbox13:43
ubot4Launchpad bug 348445 in usplash-theme-ubuntustudio "Ubuntu Studio splash text is black on black" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34844513:43
faderheno: If nobody can do it I should be able to do it tonight or tomorrow.  I have another USB hard drive on order that is supposed to be delivered today :)13:44
faderThat'll let me install without blowing away an existing system, huzzah13:44
henofader: ok, thanks13:45
arahey eeejay13:51
tuxibUSB Hdd, good idea. I can install on that too13:52
tuxibok, created an account in http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/13:58
tuxibright now which one needs more testing, i386 alternate or i386 standard ?13:59
eeejayhowdy ara.14:01
eeejayara: I have some screenshot goodness in my tweaks branch14:01
eeejayara: so a test could raise an AssertionError with an attached screenshot14:01
henotuxib: Xubuntu i386 needs some more testing14:01
eeejayara: or even return (success) with a screenshot14:01
eeejayara: i use the former in notify-osd14:01
araeeejay: great!14:02
araeeejay: I'll have a look :)14:02
araeeejay: thanks!14:02
mdzis cdimage holding up OK for everyone?14:02
davmor2mdz: Pass haven't used it since this morning :)14:03
charlie-tcaXubuntu seems good14:05
_MMA_henno: I'm testing Studio disks now so I'll look into the Usplash thing.14:06
_MMA_*heno14:06
davmor2charlie-tca:  Morning Dude :)14:06
davmor2charlie-tca: need full coverage for beta onwards :)14:06
charlie-tcaMorning, davmor214:06
charlie-tcaYeah, Trying to get that. I can't do wubi, though. No windows at all14:07
charlie-tcaCan you help with that?14:07
davmor2charlie-tca: I'll hit that after kubuntu is out of the way shouldn't be long14:09
charlie-tcaThanks. I can get all of them except wubi14:09
loolstgraber, or slangasek: does one of you have permission to delete the UMPC entries from the ISO tracker?  Or should I file a ticjet?14:09
stgraberlool: just dropping the current builds ?14:11
stgraberI can remove it, though removing the category in the menu will require a SQL change (but it'll be empty so I guess it's good for now)14:11
loolstgraber: UMPC is no more, dropping it from the ISO tracker would be great14:12
loolWhatever that involves14:12
stgraberdone (as in build is no longer there)14:12
stgraberthe categories will be updated in a later SQL change14:13
loolstgraber: ty14:13
tuxibRight, will hopefully get cracking on xubuntu tonight14:27
tuxibfor now. it goodbye from me. take care all14:27
davmor2is someone doing the last i386 test on kubuntu alternate?14:31
plarsmdz, stgraber: I'm seeing that the info link for UNR isn't valid: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/247514:56
mdzplars: yes, I see that too14:58
mdzstgraber: I've also noticed that the bug mouseovers aren't working, they all say no information available14:58
mdzplars: by the way, I was told by anmar that UNR bugs should be tagged with "ubuntu-unr".  is that common practice in your team as well?  it seems we need a standard pattern here14:59
mdzI've been adding the tag when I come across bugs which are particularly relevant to UNR14:59
plarsmdz: oh, ok I'll do that15:00
stgrabermdz: yeah, python-launchpad-bugs probably needs to be updated on the server15:22
stgraberplars: indeed, that'd require a code update to the function that guess the download links15:22
stgraberheno: any news from IS regarding p-l-b update ?15:22
stgraberwould be great to have the mouseovers and the bug report working15:23
henostgraber: I didn't ping them yet, my bad. will do that now15:25
stgraberok, thanks15:25
henostgraber: should they simply pull the latest from https://code.edge.launchpad.net/python-launchpad-bugs ?15:29
stgraberheno: yeah, that should work. IIRC it's already a bzr checkout, so a simple bzr pull should fix it. (They should also make sure the cron job that's used to update the DB works correctly)15:30
henostgraber: can you tell me more about that cron? It updates the main DB or p-lp-b data?15:33
henoah, I get it ...15:33
henogets info from LP :)15:33
davmor2ara: are you doing the last kubuntu alternate i386 install?15:34
aradavmor2: I am not15:34
davmor2ara: Np's I'll grab it then :)15:34
aradavmor2: ok15:35
stgraberheno: yeah, it goes through all bug numbers in the DB, get the info from LP and push that back into the DB15:35
henoright15:36
davmor2Right what's left15:49
davmor2heno: did you say your were doing edubuntu 64bit?15:50
davmor2persia: is someone on the mobile team testing mid?  Or is that another defunct test?15:54
davmor2charlie-tca: you okay with those last 2 xubuntu test now?15:55
charlie-tcaYes, I have them running now15:55
davmor2cool :)15:56
eeejayis the meeting in 5 minutes or in an hour and 5 minutes?15:56
charlie-tcaI will do one more upgrade test, but it worked before15:56
persiadavmor2, I don't know if anyone is testing it currently, but it's certainly not defunct.15:56
davmor2eeejay: 1:0515:56
persiaI'll probably run a test in a bit, but have a few different installs running now, and can't parallelise much more :(15:57
davmor2persia: Can I leave that one with mobile totest then?15:57
* eeejay takes note15:57
davmor2persia: Thanks Dude :)15:58
persiadavmor2, I can't tell you what to do or not do :)  More tests are good, but focus on the things on which you want to focus.15:58
henodavmor2: I did the upgrade - didn't get to the standard add-on yet15:59
davmor2so that leaves mythbuntu amd64 and some upgrade15:59
GrueMasterI'm testing mid.  I'll be testing the beta image later today.15:59
henoand now I have a few meetings ahead of me :(15:59
davmor2GrueMaster: Cool thanks15:59
davmor2heno no probs I'll pick it up15:59
davmor2so that server i386 and mythbuntu amd64 and edubuntu 6416:00
davmor2not bad16:00
faderdavmor2: if my hdd gets here today I can pick up some of that16:02
davmor2fader: you killed your hdd16:03
slangasekdavmor2: yes, no need to repeat those bugs, that's fine. :)16:03
davmor2slangasek: cool :)16:03
faderNo, just ordered a usb one.  My current install is 32-bit so I can't test the amd64 stuff without blowing away my primary OS16:03
davmor2slangasek: nearly there16:04
slangaseklool: I can delete the UMPC test for beta, and have done so16:04
slangaseklool: deleting UMPC off the tracker entirely should be handled through stgraber16:04
stgraberslangasek: UMPC should have gone from Add build, the change I need to do is change the filter section.16:07
stgraberanyway, leaving for some food.16:07
loolslangasek: Thanks16:08
davmor2downloading mythbuntu 64bit now16:12
* davmor2 likes his broadband now :) full rsync of mythbuntu just finished :)16:17
cjwatsonara: the log you attached to bug 348393 doesn't seem to match your description of the bug - could you take a close look at the system and confirm what exactly is missing?16:41
ubot4Launchpad bug 348393 in debian-installer "[jaunty] Installing in a language other than English, will install English language packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34839316:41
aracjwatson: language-pack-es and language-pack-es-base are missing16:42
aracjwatson: instead of those, language-pack-en and language-pack-en-base are there16:42
cjwatsonaha16:43
cjwatsonMar 25 10:40:38 in-target: No se pudo encontrar el paquete language-pack-es16:43
cjwatsonyou said the basic system was translated, which threw me off16:43
cjwatsonlet me clarify: anything regarding language-pack-en is a red herring16:43
slangasekthat's from which install media?16:43
cjwatsonthe error is that language-pack-es is not installed16:43
cjwatsonMar 25 11:25:06 cdrom-detect: Detected CD 'Kubuntu 9.04 "Jaunty Jackalope" - Beta i386 (20090324.1)'16:44
cjwatsonit's not really a regression (well, it may be a regression for particular languages depending on the vagaries of what language packs happen to be the CD, but it's not a regression in the general case)16:45
cjwatsonany language pack not on the CD will have suffered this for ages16:45
davmor2slangasek: I'm doing a basic install of mythbuntu amd64bit  but it would help if the myth guys could test that it works properly :)16:46
aracjwatson: the thing is that, the installer says that "it is going to download it from the interrnet"16:46
cjwatsonara: yeah, it's talking about language-support-es rather than language-pack-es there16:46
cjwatsonthe problem here is that, in an attempt to make localisation work as early as possible, and to minimise download time, we install language-pack-es before permitting packages to be installed from the network16:46
slangasekdavmor2: there are already tests from the mythbuntu folks saying that it doesn't work properly. but it sounds like it's hardware-specific and we don't have much option besides release-noting16:46
cjwatsonso I think we need to test later on whether that actually worked, and if not, install it from the network16:47
cjwatsonara: ok, I understand the bug now16:47
cjwatsonshould be fixable for final16:47
aracjwatson: ok, thanks16:47
slangasekif the bug's been there forever it probably doesn't need errating?16:48
davmor2slangasek: right live and install both play dvd which is about as much as I can test :)16:50
* slangasek nods16:50
davmor2slangasek: I've passed them as they installed and added notes16:57
slangasekhurray16:58
davmor2slangasek: there are 2 upgrades and 3 ubuntu studio test left outstanding there are a couple of people testing mid after do you need the other studio tests hitting16:59
slangasekubuntustudio usually lacks for testers - if you can help with that, that would be excellent16:59
davmor2NP's17:00
sbeattieI'll poke at the server upgrade.17:00
davmor2sbeattie: sweet17:01
davmor2slangasek: Done and done :)18:07
davmor2slangasek: I'm calling it a day then and it looks like pretty much every thing is covered :) Yay18:09
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mdzargh, I submitted a test result for the wrong iso (amd64 rather than i386)18:25
mdzis that fixable?18:26
mdzit's server amd64 RAID118:30
henomdz: fixed18:51
henoadmins can hide submissions18:51
mdzheno: thanks18:56
mdzI've been downloading the iso to do a test to make up for my sin18:57
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charlie-tcaTesting the i386 server RAID1. Apparently the installer only creates GRUB menu on one hard drive? How do I make it create the menu on both drives?19:15
sbeattiedoes it? it should've been fixed to do both, I thought.19:16
charlie-tcaOnly on one drive. When I disconnected drive1, I got Error22 for GRUB19:17
sbeattiesudo grub-install /dev/sdX where /dev/sdX is the drive that's not working should fix it.19:17
charlie-tcaOkay, I'll try it.19:18
charlie-tcaDo you want a bug reported on it?19:18
sbeattieyes19:19
charlie-tcaWill do. Thanks19:19
sbeattiekirkland: ^^^^^19:19
kirklandsbeattie: actually, grub-install /dev/md0 works too19:20
kirklandsbeattie: that's odd, though, i tested this today, and grub does end up on both disks19:20
charlie-tcaWhat did I do wrong? hmmm19:22
rniamohi21:34
rniamoi'm under jaunty and i have no sound (maybe because i have a intel hda soundcard) but i have no sound server (alsa, oss are not present, i have only the null driver of pulseaudio)21:34
rniamodo i have to install anything ?21:36
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