[00:04] <stgraber> slangasek: I finished preparing the update, it'll likely be applied early London time, anything else you want to change ? (Want a preview of all the tests that'll be available ?)
[00:06] <slangasek> nothing else I need changed besides what's already been mentioned; no need to give me a preview, thanks
[00:30]  * heno takes studio 32 and 64
[00:30] <slangasek> those are just about to be rerolled
[00:31] <slangasek> (lmms Recommends: wine, ubuntustudio blacklisted it; lmms package just accepted, so will be rerolled in about an hour)
[00:31] <slangasek> but I also don't think they've been smoketested yet...
[00:34] <heno> slangasek: ok, thanks. the install is running in a VM so I'll let it carry on anyway
[01:34] <heno> 64 bit upgrade testing complete
[01:34]  * heno wanders off to bed
[04:41] <nullack> slangasek: Gday :) Just a quick note that printing is still broken for myself and other users on Jaunty. Its bug #314106
[04:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 314106 in cups "Printer not connected" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314106
[04:41] <nullack> I've nominated it for the Jaunty release
[05:42] <quietas> Hey folks, is there a way to do an online dist upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 without doing 8.10 in the middle
[05:46] <slangasek> direct upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04 is not supported, no.  It may work, or it may not; that doesn't get tested.
[06:33] <nullack> slangasek: Steve you there?
[06:33] <slangasek> yep
[06:34] <nullack> slangasek: sorry phone one min
[06:37] <nullack> slangasek: The symptoms of the bug are the same, if you like I can create a seperate bug
[06:37] <slangasek> the symptoms are rather broad; I imagine a separate bug report is appropriate
[06:37] <nullack> slangasek: Of the users reporting the problem on the forums, so far Ive identified three hardware models not working
[06:38] <nullack> slangasek: One forum member mentioned installing some packages as a possible fix which I will try and report results
[06:38] <slangasek> sounds good
[06:38] <nullack> slangasek: Ok mate Ill give that a go and report
[06:48] <nullack> slangasek: Hmm unfortunately that didnt work. So I'll create a new bug on your request. With the three printer models I know didnt work, is that enough to meet the release blocker policy Steve?
[06:57] <slangasek> that still doesn't make it a release blocker; it is something that should get more attention for release though
[06:58] <nullack> slangasek: Is the release blocker criteria documented anywhere so I know for future reference?
[07:00] <slangasek> hmm, not as such
[07:04] <nullack> slangasek: Convenient for you :)
[07:11] <ara> good morning all :-)
[07:16] <nullack> ara Evening Ara
[07:16] <ara> hey nullack, how are you doing?
[07:16] <nullack> Ara Im great :) Looking forward to beta
[07:16] <ara> nullack: yes, almost there :-)
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[07:55] <sbeattie> Ummkay. I'm doing a stress test upgrade from intrepid to jaunty, and update-manager just told me it hit an error and couldn't continue... except that it *is* continuing. Odd.
[07:57] <mvo> sbeattie: its lying
[07:57] <mvo> sbeattie: its doing that sometime :)
[07:57] <sbeattie> alas, the logging *does* appear to have ended.
[07:57] <mvo> sbeattie: but you are right, the message is misleading - could you please make the /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log and apt-term.log availalbe? I would like to have a look
[07:58] <sbeattie> mvo: you want them in a bug report or just available?
[08:00] <mvo> sbeattie: both is fine, bug might be easier for tracking (and putting it into the iso tracker)
[08:04] <ara> does anyone know how to "untell" apport to ignore crashes of "x" version of a software?
[08:11] <sbeattie> mvo: bug 348322
[08:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 348322 in update-manager "[intrepid-jaunty upgrade] update-manager claimed it couldn't continue, but appears to be doing so anyway" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348322
[08:17] <sbeattie> and now whiptail has tried to prompt me, but it and update-manager are no longer on speaking terms. :-)
[08:19] <mvo> how so, you can't enter anything in the terminal?
[08:20] <sbeattie> the terminal widget in update-manager is completely disconnect from whatever's happening in the upgrade process.
[08:21] <mvo> sbeattie: is there another dialog window open somewhere from u-m ?
[08:22] <sbeattie> no popup, no nothing, but whiptail was wanting to ask me about dovecot.conf, based on ps output.
[08:33] <mvo> sbeattie: and no terminal input whatsoever? hrm, that should work
[08:35] <sbeattie> not sure what you mean, but I have no means of interacting with whiptail prompts; I had to kill whiptail to get the upgrade process to continue.
[08:36] <davmor2> morning all
[08:37]  * davmor2 tip toes off to cdimages to ensure slangasek has respun the images while he's been asleep :D
[08:37] <davmor2> s/gas/hasn't
[08:37] <davmor2> has even
[08:42]  * ara takes a break
[08:47] <davmor2> hi heno
[08:47] <heno> hi davmor2
[08:47] <davmor2> right need to take my wife to a meeting then I'll takle Kubuntu
[08:47] <heno> ok, cool
[08:48]  * heno takes edubuntu 64
[08:48] <heno> edubuntu upgrade that is
[08:48] <mvo> sbeattie: 2009-03-24 23:54:47,703 ERROR got an error from dpkg for pkg: 'python': 'subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 4
[08:48] <mvo> oh well
[08:48] <mvo> python
[08:49] <mvo> so it crashes because it can not byte compile some package on python2.6
[08:50]  * mvo wishes we had a more robust python
[08:51] <sbeattie> mvo: that occurred a while before update-manager claimed it couldn't continue, but yeah.
[08:51] <mvo> zope2.10 or qmtest
[08:51] <mvo> qmtest
[08:52] <mvo> so python2.6 tries to byte-compile the old version and that fails
[08:53] <mvo> I will put the information needed into the bugreport
[08:58]  * heno takes ubuntu DVD 64-bit Live and Desktop install
[09:17] <lool> stgraber, plars: What was the conclusion on UNR testcases?  Is this pending a DB merge from IS?
[09:46]  * davmor2 is back and start on Kubutnu
[09:51] <mvo> sbeattie: I'm testing a fix for the qmtest failure now, I have no idea why the terminal was in this bad state :/
[09:54]  * davmor2 starts with Kubuntu dvd 64bit as it is the only one with no tests 
[10:03] <heno> lool: correct. agy has the updates and is working on it.
[10:04] <lool> heno: thanks
[10:14]  * ara takes kubuntu alternate i386 (entire disk with encrypted home)
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[10:17]  * davmor2 takes wubi on Kubuntu too
[11:43] <ara> cjwatson: ping
[11:47] <ara> cjwatson (and others): I just installed alternate in Spanish and I got this bug in localization:
[11:47] <ara> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/348393
[11:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 348393 in debian-installer "[jaunty] Installing in a language other than English, will install English language packages" [Undecided,New]
[11:51] <cjwatson> ara: intentional
[11:51] <cjwatson> ara: Matt explicitly asked for that to be the case in 2004
[11:52] <ara> cjwatson: OK. I don't understand the reason behind, but you can mark it as invalid, then :)
[11:52] <cjwatson> ara: oh, well, if Spanish language packs *aren't* installed, that's a bug
[11:52] <cjwatson> ara: can I have /var/log/installer/syslog attached to the bug please?
[11:53] <ara> cjwatson: ah, ok. I was wondering why it wasn't a bug :D . I will attach it, sure
[11:53] <cjwatson> ara: I hadn't quite loaded the bug yet and the title made it sound as if the problem was that English language packs were installed *in addition*
[11:54] <ara> cjwatson: ah, ok. I was wondering why it wasn't a bug :D . I will attach it, sure
[11:54] <ara> I already said that :D
[11:55]  * ara needs to improve her bug-report summaries
[12:01] <ara> cjwatson: attached, thanks :)
[12:24]  * heno tests studio 64
[12:27] <fader> Then I'll test the i386 :)
[12:33] <mdz> the "free software only" test case links to the NetbootARM wiki page - I assume this is a bug?
[12:33] <davmor2> mdz stands a good chance
[12:33] <mdz> cjwatson: what's the correct way to do the free software only install?
[12:34] <cjwatson> select it from F6 on the CD boot menu
[12:34] <davmor2> mdz: hit F6 hit the down arrow till you get to freesoftware only hit enter to select it, hit esc, hit enter 2 times away you go :)
[12:36]  * ara -> lunch
[12:36] <davmor2> slangasek: I've not added the wubi issues again I thought you'd get them from the first 3
[12:37] <mdz> davmor2,cjwatson: thanks
[12:39] <eeejay> howdy
[12:39] <eeejay> yo ara
[12:39]  * heno takes edubuntu-addon 64
[12:40] <davmor2> eeejay: ara = Lunch
[12:40] <eeejay> davmor2: ah, thanks
[12:56] <stgraber> hey there
[12:57] <davmor2> stgraber: Dude :)
[13:05]  * davmor2 takes kubuntu alt 64bit
[13:06] <fader> Does Ubuntu Studio even have a resize disk install option?  I don't see it.
[13:07] <davmor2> fader: is it list as install along side
[13:07] <fader> davmor2: Thanks, I'll look for that on my next run
[13:07] <davmor2> fader: also are you running it in vm in which case it will be a blank disc :)
[13:08] <davmor2> so you wont need to resize :)
[13:08] <fader> davmor2: I'm running it in a VM, but running it over top of older installs, so it should pick up that something's partitioned and there (I assume)
[13:08] <fader> That's what I was doing with the desktop testing and that worked :)
[13:10] <davmor2> fader: this is a text based installer correct
[13:10] <fader> davmor2: Correct
[13:11] <davmor2> fader: d-i has a different way of dealing with it I think it'll only offer it if there is a partition there to resize  cjwatson is that correct?
[13:11] <tuxib> hi all
[13:12] <davmor2> tuxib: hello
[13:14] <cjwatson> fader: there are a few constraints (but davmor2 is incorrect in saying that d-i and ubiquity have different logic here - they should be the same in terms of whether they offer this option)
[13:16] <davmor2> fader: Oh well there you go :)
[13:16] <tuxib> hope you're all well. forgive me. new to this but I'd like to get involved with testing and help out. Is this the correct place to ask 'how'?
[13:16] <fader> cjwatson: I'll look in a few minutes when I re-run the installer and see if I was just looking for the wrong option... if I don't see it I'll whine again. :)
[13:16] <davmor2> tuxib: Yeap
[13:18] <cjwatson> fader: (a) you must have an extended partition already, or else must have a free primary partition slot (i.e. you can't just have four primary partitions); (b) you must have an existing resizable partition with at least 3GB of free space on it
[13:19] <fader> Ahh... I might not have enough space remaining
[13:19] <cjwatson> fader: it's not intrinsically a bug if auto-resize isn't offered, although it may be. The partman log will let me easily see what's going on
[13:19] <fader> I'll fake it out by manually partitioning on my next run and leaving a primary slot open
[13:20] <fader> It's on a 4G virtual disk, so it's entirely likely that there's less than 3G free
[13:20] <cjwatson> oh, yes, almost certain
[13:20] <cjwatson> most people don't run into the primary partitions constraint; I just mention it for completeness
[13:21] <tuxib> thanks, so where do i start?
[13:23] <tuxib> btw, I've got about 5 years experience with Linux and about 2.5 with Ubuntu specifically
[13:27] <fader> cjwatson: thanks.  Next time I'll use a bigger disk too :)
[13:32] <fader> tuxib: If you have some spare hardware (or a virtual machine) and the bandwidth to pull down an ISO or two we'd love to have you help do some ISO testing.
[13:33] <tuxib> sure, I use virtual machine. Although I've got another 2.5" disk I could chuck into my laptop if need be
[13:33] <tuxib> bandwidth isn't a problem
[13:34] <fader> tuxib: Great! :)  Can you hop over to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ and create an account?
[13:34] <tuxib> you want me to have a look at Alpha 6?
[13:34] <fader> Then you can sign up for testing of ISOs, or just grab one and go to it.
[13:34] <fader> We're actually testing the spins for the beta
[13:35] <fader> So you get to beta test the beta :)
[13:36] <fader> tuxib: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures
[13:36] <fader> This has a lot of info about what we're doing
[13:36] <tuxib> woohoo, how privilledged. Although some may argue fedora core users are always running/testing betas :D
[13:37] <fader> Heheh
[13:40] <tuxib> guess I should sign up to launchpad too?
[13:42] <fader> tuxib: That'd be a good idea so you can report bugs. :)
[13:42] <fader> (Not that there are any bugs, of course.)
[13:42] <heno> could someone try an encrypted UbuntuStudio install on real HW?
[13:43] <heno> I get bug 348445 on vbox
[13:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 348445 in usplash-theme-ubuntustudio "Ubuntu Studio splash text is black on black" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348445
[13:44] <fader> heno: If nobody can do it I should be able to do it tonight or tomorrow.  I have another USB hard drive on order that is supposed to be delivered today :)
[13:44] <fader> That'll let me install without blowing away an existing system, huzzah
[13:45] <heno> fader: ok, thanks
[13:51] <ara> hey eeejay
[13:52] <tuxib> USB Hdd, good idea. I can install on that too
[13:58] <tuxib> ok, created an account in http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[13:59] <tuxib> right now which one needs more testing, i386 alternate or i386 standard ?
[14:01] <eeejay> howdy ara.
[14:01] <eeejay> ara: I have some screenshot goodness in my tweaks branch
[14:01] <eeejay> ara: so a test could raise an AssertionError with an attached screenshot
[14:01] <heno> tuxib: Xubuntu i386 needs some more testing
[14:01] <eeejay> ara: or even return (success) with a screenshot
[14:01] <eeejay> ara: i use the former in notify-osd
[14:02] <ara> eeejay: great!
[14:02] <ara> eeejay: I'll have a look :)
[14:02] <ara> eeejay: thanks!
[14:02] <mdz> is cdimage holding up OK for everyone?
[14:03] <davmor2> mdz: Pass haven't used it since this morning :)
[14:05] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu seems good
[14:06] <_MMA_> henno: I'm testing Studio disks now so I'll look into the Usplash thing.
[14:06] <_MMA_> *heno
[14:06] <davmor2> charlie-tca:  Morning Dude :)
[14:06] <davmor2> charlie-tca: need full coverage for beta onwards :)
[14:06] <charlie-tca> Morning, davmor2
[14:07] <charlie-tca> Yeah, Trying to get that. I can't do wubi, though. No windows at all
[14:07] <charlie-tca> Can you help with that?
[14:09] <davmor2> charlie-tca: I'll hit that after kubuntu is out of the way shouldn't be long
[14:09] <charlie-tca> Thanks. I can get all of them except wubi
[14:09] <lool> stgraber, or slangasek: does one of you have permission to delete the UMPC entries from the ISO tracker?  Or should I file a ticjet?
[14:11] <stgraber> lool: just dropping the current builds ?
[14:11] <stgraber> I can remove it, though removing the category in the menu will require a SQL change (but it'll be empty so I guess it's good for now)
[14:12] <lool> stgraber: UMPC is no more, dropping it from the ISO tracker would be great
[14:12] <lool> Whatever that involves
[14:12] <stgraber> done (as in build is no longer there)
[14:13] <stgraber> the categories will be updated in a later SQL change
[14:13] <lool> stgraber: ty
[14:27] <tuxib> Right, will hopefully get cracking on xubuntu tonight
[14:27] <tuxib> for now. it goodbye from me. take care all
[14:31] <davmor2> is someone doing the last i386 test on kubuntu alternate?
[14:56] <plars> mdz, stgraber: I'm seeing that the info link for UNR isn't valid: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/2475
[14:58] <mdz> plars: yes, I see that too
[14:58] <mdz> stgraber: I've also noticed that the bug mouseovers aren't working, they all say no information available
[14:59] <mdz> plars: by the way, I was told by anmar that UNR bugs should be tagged with "ubuntu-unr".  is that common practice in your team as well?  it seems we need a standard pattern here
[14:59] <mdz> I've been adding the tag when I come across bugs which are particularly relevant to UNR
[15:00] <plars> mdz: oh, ok I'll do that
[15:22] <stgraber> mdz: yeah, python-launchpad-bugs probably needs to be updated on the server
[15:22] <stgraber> plars: indeed, that'd require a code update to the function that guess the download links
[15:22] <stgraber> heno: any news from IS regarding p-l-b update ?
[15:23] <stgraber> would be great to have the mouseovers and the bug report working
[15:25] <heno> stgraber: I didn't ping them yet, my bad. will do that now
[15:25] <stgraber> ok, thanks
[15:29] <heno> stgraber: should they simply pull the latest from https://code.edge.launchpad.net/python-launchpad-bugs ?
[15:30] <stgraber> heno: yeah, that should work. IIRC it's already a bzr checkout, so a simple bzr pull should fix it. (They should also make sure the cron job that's used to update the DB works correctly)
[15:33] <heno> stgraber: can you tell me more about that cron? It updates the main DB or p-lp-b data?
[15:33] <heno> ah, I get it ...
[15:33] <heno> gets info from LP :)
[15:34] <davmor2> ara: are you doing the last kubuntu alternate i386 install?
[15:34] <ara> davmor2: I am not
[15:34] <davmor2> ara: Np's I'll grab it then :)
[15:35] <ara> davmor2: ok
[15:35] <stgraber> heno: yeah, it goes through all bug numbers in the DB, get the info from LP and push that back into the DB
[15:36] <heno> right
[15:49] <davmor2> Right what's left
[15:50] <davmor2> heno: did you say your were doing edubuntu 64bit?
[15:54] <davmor2> persia: is someone on the mobile team testing mid?  Or is that another defunct test?
[15:55] <davmor2> charlie-tca: you okay with those last 2 xubuntu test now?
[15:55] <charlie-tca> Yes, I have them running now
[15:56] <davmor2> cool :)
[15:56] <eeejay> is the meeting in 5 minutes or in an hour and 5 minutes?
[15:56] <charlie-tca> I will do one more upgrade test, but it worked before
[15:56] <persia> davmor2, I don't know if anyone is testing it currently, but it's certainly not defunct.
[15:56] <davmor2> eeejay: 1:05
[15:57] <persia> I'll probably run a test in a bit, but have a few different installs running now, and can't parallelise much more :(
[15:57] <davmor2> persia: Can I leave that one with mobile totest then?
[15:57]  * eeejay takes note
[15:58] <davmor2> persia: Thanks Dude :)
[15:58] <persia> davmor2, I can't tell you what to do or not do :)  More tests are good, but focus on the things on which you want to focus.
[15:59] <heno> davmor2: I did the upgrade - didn't get to the standard add-on yet
[15:59] <davmor2> so that leaves mythbuntu amd64 and some upgrade
[15:59] <GrueMaster> I'm testing mid.  I'll be testing the beta image later today.
[15:59] <heno> and now I have a few meetings ahead of me :(
[15:59] <davmor2> GrueMaster: Cool thanks
[15:59] <davmor2> heno no probs I'll pick it up
[16:00] <davmor2> so that server i386 and mythbuntu amd64 and edubuntu 64
[16:00] <davmor2> not bad
[16:02] <fader> davmor2: if my hdd gets here today I can pick up some of that
[16:03] <davmor2> fader: you killed your hdd
[16:03] <slangasek> davmor2: yes, no need to repeat those bugs, that's fine. :)
[16:03] <davmor2> slangasek: cool :)
[16:03] <fader> No, just ordered a usb one.  My current install is 32-bit so I can't test the amd64 stuff without blowing away my primary OS
[16:04] <davmor2> slangasek: nearly there
[16:04] <slangasek> lool: I can delete the UMPC test for beta, and have done so
[16:04] <slangasek> lool: deleting UMPC off the tracker entirely should be handled through stgraber
[16:07] <stgraber> slangasek: UMPC should have gone from Add build, the change I need to do is change the filter section.
[16:07] <stgraber> anyway, leaving for some food.
[16:08] <lool> slangasek: Thanks
[16:12] <davmor2> downloading mythbuntu 64bit now
[16:17]  * davmor2 likes his broadband now :) full rsync of mythbuntu just finished :)
[16:41] <cjwatson> ara: the log you attached to bug 348393 doesn't seem to match your description of the bug - could you take a close look at the system and confirm what exactly is missing?
[16:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 348393 in debian-installer "[jaunty] Installing in a language other than English, will install English language packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348393
[16:42] <ara> cjwatson: language-pack-es and language-pack-es-base are missing
[16:42] <ara> cjwatson: instead of those, language-pack-en and language-pack-en-base are there
[16:43] <cjwatson> aha
[16:43] <cjwatson> Mar 25 10:40:38 in-target: No se pudo encontrar el paquete language-pack-es
[16:43] <cjwatson> you said the basic system was translated, which threw me off
[16:43] <cjwatson> let me clarify: anything regarding language-pack-en is a red herring
[16:43] <slangasek> that's from which install media?
[16:43] <cjwatson> the error is that language-pack-es is not installed
[16:44] <cjwatson> Mar 25 11:25:06 cdrom-detect: Detected CD 'Kubuntu 9.04 "Jaunty Jackalope" - Beta i386 (20090324.1)'
[16:45] <cjwatson> it's not really a regression (well, it may be a regression for particular languages depending on the vagaries of what language packs happen to be the CD, but it's not a regression in the general case)
[16:45] <cjwatson> any language pack not on the CD will have suffered this for ages
[16:46] <davmor2> slangasek: I'm doing a basic install of mythbuntu amd64bit  but it would help if the myth guys could test that it works properly :)
[16:46] <ara> cjwatson: the thing is that, the installer says that "it is going to download it from the interrnet"
[16:46] <cjwatson> ara: yeah, it's talking about language-support-es rather than language-pack-es there
[16:46] <cjwatson> the problem here is that, in an attempt to make localisation work as early as possible, and to minimise download time, we install language-pack-es before permitting packages to be installed from the network
[16:46] <slangasek> davmor2: there are already tests from the mythbuntu folks saying that it doesn't work properly. but it sounds like it's hardware-specific and we don't have much option besides release-noting
[16:47] <cjwatson> so I think we need to test later on whether that actually worked, and if not, install it from the network
[16:47] <cjwatson> ara: ok, I understand the bug now
[16:47] <cjwatson> should be fixable for final
[16:47] <ara> cjwatson: ok, thanks
[16:48] <slangasek> if the bug's been there forever it probably doesn't need errating?
[16:50] <davmor2> slangasek: right live and install both play dvd which is about as much as I can test :)
[16:50]  * slangasek nods
[16:57] <davmor2> slangasek: I've passed them as they installed and added notes
[16:58] <slangasek> hurray
[16:59] <davmor2> slangasek: there are 2 upgrades and 3 ubuntu studio test left outstanding there are a couple of people testing mid after do you need the other studio tests hitting
[16:59] <slangasek> ubuntustudio usually lacks for testers - if you can help with that, that would be excellent
[17:00] <davmor2> NP's
[17:00] <sbeattie> I'll poke at the server upgrade.
[17:01] <davmor2> sbeattie: sweet
[18:07] <davmor2> slangasek: Done and done :)
[18:09] <davmor2> slangasek: I'm calling it a day then and it looks like pretty much every thing is covered :) Yay
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[18:25] <mdz> argh, I submitted a test result for the wrong iso (amd64 rather than i386)
[18:26] <mdz> is that fixable?
[18:30] <mdz> it's server amd64 RAID1
[18:51] <heno> mdz: fixed
[18:51] <heno> admins can hide submissions
[18:56] <mdz> heno: thanks
[18:57] <mdz> I've been downloading the iso to do a test to make up for my sin
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[19:15] <charlie-tca> Testing the i386 server RAID1. Apparently the installer only creates GRUB menu on one hard drive? How do I make it create the menu on both drives?
[19:16] <sbeattie> does it? it should've been fixed to do both, I thought.
[19:17] <charlie-tca> Only on one drive. When I disconnected drive1, I got Error22 for GRUB
[19:17] <sbeattie> sudo grub-install /dev/sdX where /dev/sdX is the drive that's not working should fix it.
[19:18] <charlie-tca> Okay, I'll try it.
[19:18] <charlie-tca> Do you want a bug reported on it?
[19:19] <sbeattie> yes
[19:19] <charlie-tca> Will do. Thanks
[19:19] <sbeattie> kirkland: ^^^^^
[19:20] <kirkland> sbeattie: actually, grub-install /dev/md0 works too
[19:20] <kirkland> sbeattie: that's odd, though, i tested this today, and grub does end up on both disks
[19:22] <charlie-tca> What did I do wrong? hmmm
[21:34] <rniamo> hi
[21:34] <rniamo> i'm under jaunty and i have no sound (maybe because i have a intel hda soundcard) but i have no sound server (alsa, oss are not present, i have only the null driver of pulseaudio)
[21:36] <rniamo> do i have to install anything ?
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