| iamthelostboy | perfect | 00:08 |
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| iamthelostboy | thanks :) | 00:08 |
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| sadmac | Keybuk: ping | 20:45 |
| Keybuk | hello | 20:48 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: ah, you're around :) | 20:49 |
| Keybuk | briefly | 20:50 |
| Keybuk | what's up? | 20:50 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: so what's been moving with upstart? I've been distracted for awhile so I haven't even seen if you've pushed code in awhile | 20:50 |
| Keybuk | busy coding on it ;) | 20:50 |
| Keybuk | no pushes though | 20:50 |
| sadmac | keeping all the fun to yourself yet again :) | 20:50 |
| Keybuk | I'm doing what all the cool people (ie. git users) do | 20:51 |
| Keybuk | code in private, then rework all the commits before pushing | 20:51 |
| Keybuk | mostly just because I keep changing function names and filenames | 20:52 |
| Keybuk | and that kind of thing is hell for a revision control system | 20:52 |
| sadmac | there's a NetworkManager Sucks flamewar on fedora-devel, which got me thinking about replacing NM with a series of upstart jobs | 20:52 |
| sadmac | what do you think? | 20:53 |
| Keybuk | NM is just fine the way it is | 20:53 |
| sadmac | eh. probably. | 20:53 |
| Keybuk | Upstart is just a service manager | 20:53 |
| sadmac | I know | 20:53 |
| Keybuk | you'd still need the mechanism daemon and policy agent of NM | 20:53 |
| sadmac | but what occurs to me is so is NM | 20:53 |
| Keybuk | just that NM would use Upstart's service manager for things like wpa, dhclient, etc. | 20:54 |
| Keybuk | which I've already talked to dcbw about | 20:54 |
| sadmac | it occured to me awhile ago actually that reimplementing our sysvinit network service in Upstart would probably be most of NM | 20:54 |
| Keybuk | NM has a lot more know-how about things | 20:55 |
| sadmac | that and it introduces some service relationships that we don't have now (the 'network' state is up when ANY of the 'interface' states are up EXCEPT the 'lo' interface..) | 20:56 |
| sadmac | did you do any of that writeup/documentation stuff you wanted done? | 20:57 |
| Keybuk | not yet | 20:57 |
| sadmac | damn. that means I have to do coursework now instead of hacking on stuff. | 20:59 |
| Keybuk | I apologize, but the problem was not a network one at all. The | 21:02 |
| Keybuk | problem was that the NetworkManager did not have dependencies | 21:02 |
| Keybuk | installed correctly, and turned out to be related to a peculiar | 21:02 |
| Keybuk | yum/Anaconda install scenario. | 21:02 |
| Keybuk | -- | 21:02 |
| Keybuk | so it wasn't even an NM problem? :p | 21:02 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: wrong thread I'm guessing. | 21:04 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: its the System Config Tools Cleanup Project thread | 21:05 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: someone wanted to remove the system-config-network gui (which hasn't changed since like 1993) and people were like OMG THEY'RE GONNA MAKE US USE NETWORMANAGER!!!!!! | 21:05 |
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