[00:00] It's been announced as such. [00:01] * vorian recalls that as part of the deal with 8.04 not being lts [00:01] did not know that and thought that it is a big surprise which release is LTS [00:02] neversfelde: every two years [00:02] ok, I remebered that Hardy was announced as LTS late, but might be wrong [00:03] 10.04 is the first one to be announced way in advance. [00:04] the frist time I read 10.*, it is like getting older ... [00:11] what's the freaking deal with kolourpaint? [00:16] it be broke :( [00:16] it works if you pass -graphicssystem raster though [00:16] I wonder if there's a way to make that default only for kolourpaint? [00:45] JontheEchidna: the .desktop? [00:48] Ha, why didn't I think of that? [00:48] * JontheEchidna makes a mental note to add a patch for KDE 4.2.2 [00:49] JontheEchidna: has rgreening been about lately? [00:50] come to think of it, not so much [00:50] * vorian only sees a bunch of parts/joins [00:50] ok [00:50] I'll set myself up as coordinator again [00:50] I don't think i'll have much time for the packaging [00:51] looks like I'll have a lot to do then; luckily it's a point release [00:51] unless ye would like to do it [00:51] what is this 2 hours since beta release day? [00:52] josh-l: we speak of the 4.2.2 release [00:52] Come to think of it.... === JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Beta tomorrow! Please test http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | Feature Freeze, UI Freeze and Beta Freeze in effect - Fix bugs! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Congratulations to rgreening and a|wen - Kubuntu's newest MOTUs!!! [00:52] vorian: yeah im just talking about jaunty beta release... today, [00:53] JontheEchidna: its today [00:53] time zone [00:53] ~time [00:53] JontheEchidna: America - New York - Wed Mar 25 20:53 EDT [00:53] its not edt for release time === JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Beta today unless you're in the Americas! Please test http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | Feature Freeze, UI Freeze and Beta Freeze in effect - Fix bugs! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Congratulations to rgreening and a|wen - Kubuntu's newest MOTUs!!! [00:53] josh-l: it's more of a general time for the release [00:54] :P [00:54] nice one [00:54] its utc [00:54] yeah i know [00:54] still [00:54] technically its today [00:54] not tomorrow === JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Beta in less than 24 hours! Please test http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | Feature Freeze, UI Freeze and Beta Freeze in effect - Fix bugs! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Congratulations to rgreening and a|wen - Kubuntu's newest MOTUs!!! [00:54] hehe there we go === vorian changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Beta in less|more than 24 hours! Please test http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | Feature Freeze, UI Freeze and Beta Freeze in effect - Fix bugs! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Congratulations to rgreening and a|wen - Kubuntu's newest MOTUs!!! [00:55] * JontheEchidna wanders off to watch Lost [00:55] lol @ topic [00:55] :P [00:55] let's at least be realistic [00:56] hmm does this mean its here? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/2466 [00:56] or [00:56] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all [00:56] yes [00:56] the beta beta [00:56] no i mean what it shows there... does that mean its out? [00:56] hmm? [00:57] vorian: beta beta? [00:57] they are beta ISO's for testing [00:57] Also, the xserver packages in -experimental need updating, an update was pushed to intrepid-updates [00:58] * JontheEchidna disappears for reals [00:58] bah [00:58] vorian: whats the diff between that and the beta release? [00:59] from what I understand (ScottK can correct me if I'm wrong) if everything checks out, the seeded packages will be rsync'd a final time [00:59] so, pretty near final beta if all is well [00:59] ah hm ok, im feeling impatient [01:19] jjesse: S T R I N G F R E E Z E ! ! ! [01:19] it is now [01:19] grrr [01:19] already? [01:19] the 26th [01:19] i thought i had longer [01:19] not the 26th yet for me [01:19] :) [01:19] I guess midnight at 00:00 UTC [01:19] right, same here [01:19] ah bummer [01:19] we are fine though dude [01:19] good sorry this cycle has been so terrible for me [01:19] if someone complains I will take care of them chicago style [01:19] i need to get back and contribute [01:20] bribe someone else to do it for you? [01:20] or pay someone to get you elected to high office? [01:23] already working on that [01:27] which one? [01:29] critiques/proofreading please: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Beta/Kubuntu [01:30] * claydoh has tired astimgatic eyes [01:31] claydoh: i like it, looks nice [01:32] is there anyway to graphically do "eject sdXN" in jaunty? [01:32] and not as in cdrom, as in "eject this usb device so it's just powered but not mountable" [01:33] jjesse: ty, after food safety testing at work *and* a *major* restaurant re-certification inspection, I am beat [01:33] * claydoh is hoping for few gaffs, if any [01:35] claydoh: good job on the release notes! [01:36] hrmm, jjesse we are kind of screwed [01:36] string freeze and beta release the same time :( [01:36] why now? [01:36] that is kind of silly [01:36] oh boy [01:36] that is silly [01:36] I haven't seen the email stating the freeze is on though [01:37] me either [01:38] thanks nixternal [01:38] checking now [01:38] vorian and josh-l: The images that are there are candidate images for the beta. Assuming no show stoppers come up in testing, those will be declared the beta images at release. [01:38] claydoh: Did slangasek get your notes? [01:39] ScottK: i've built several VMs with the the beta cd and didn't have any problems [01:40] jjesse: Did you record your results in the iso tracker? [01:40] ScottK: yes i did [01:40] ScottK: yes, already updated the kubuntu section at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/BetaAnnouncement [01:41] jjesse: Excellent. [01:41] jjesse: ok, we have time because we couldn't upload anyways due to beta freeze [01:41] claydoh: Thanks. I'll have a look. [01:41] oh [01:41] we need to do string freeze at most a day before beta freeze from now on [01:41] at least a day rather [01:41] that way people could see the docs asap, but they will get them on an update [01:43] claydoh: Looks good. Mind if I hack on the Kubuntu page a bit? [01:44] ScottK: feel free :) [01:44] jjesse: ok, I just made a corporate decision I guess you can say....Friday will be it..that will be our upload day, so work on what you need to [01:44] nixternal: awesome, i'll get on making changes [01:44] that way there uploading won't be an issue [01:44] claydoh: Will do. I think it's great, just a bit of tweaking. [01:46] ScottK: np, I was hoping for a good page, but will see and note your tweaks for future reference ) [01:46] claydoh: I just want to add a little more of compared to intrepid in there. [01:46] ahhh [01:47] noted [01:47] * claydoh sleeps now, finally [01:48] claydoh: That or I'm suddenly too tired. I think we need to make it clear that Alpha 6 -> Beta is 4.2.0 -> 4.2.1, but Intrepid -> jaunty Beta is 4.1 -> 4.2 and major feature goodness. [01:56] claydoh: maybe one of these days I will get back to doing release notes, unless of course you want to do them from now on :p [02:05] Hmm, the ktorrent plasma widget is only suggests rather than a recommends [02:05] maybe we shouldn't advertise that in the release notes... [02:06] or we could add the plasmoid to the seed :P === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [04:41] what do I file this as??: http://shtylman.com/stuff/print_bug.png [04:45] is it just me or does quassel crash A LOT? [04:48] shtylman: system-config-printer-kde [04:51] maco: I don't think it's crashed for me since 0.4.1 came out. [04:52] shtylman: ubuntu-bug system-config-printer-kde will do the work for you and take you to kdeadmin source [04:53] about 1/3 of the time that i mark "temporarily hide buffer" it crashes [04:53] Weird. [04:53] see my recent quit/join/quit/join/quit/join for reference [04:53] I'm running it on Intrepid with Qt 4.4. [04:53] <-- jaunty [04:53] Yeah. Maybe that's the difference. [04:54] 0.4.1-0ubuntu1 [04:54] If you install the ddeb do you get a good backtrace? [04:54] I'm sure if you could get a backtrace, Sput would fix you right up. [04:55] can I file a bug if one of my keys just broke on my keyboard?;p [04:55] You can file a but about anything you want. [04:55] nixternal: which key? [04:55] ERROR: No package named ScottK [04:55] ;p [04:56] Excellent. [04:56] haha [04:56] The defenses are intact. [04:56] nah, some junk fell into my keyboard and i had to blow it out [04:56] what letter is it? [04:56] my v key had something stuck under it and it was driving me up a wall [04:57] nixternal: sorry you can only file bugs on prime letters [04:57] ass [04:57] wth is a prime letter? [04:57] * maco hunts down a ddeb [04:58] nixternal: v is the 22nd letter of the alphabet. 22 is not prime [04:58] b, c, e...those are prime [04:58] ahh, gotcha [04:58] that went over my head...must be getting tired [05:17] kwwii: I want my pimpin' picture you got of my hot ass at UDS!!! :p [05:17] err, that did not sound right at all [05:17] * nixternal crawls back into a hole quickly [05:19] That continued the not sounding right. [05:20] well, i have a picture of you "dancing" on the bus coming back from oh, Tuesday's session? [05:22] * ScottK clarifies that the antecedent on of you in that last comment is nixternal. [05:22] * ScottK also notices he's too tired to type and goes to bed. [05:22] dtchen: who dancing? [05:22] actually if "you" referred to any of us, it would be amusing [05:22] nixternal: you [05:22] oh lord [05:23] keep it on the camera [05:23] thankfully i don't have a camera; someone else took it [05:23] it->photo [05:23] wait what? [05:24] can a "embarassing UDS moments" photostream go on flickr [05:24] maco: don't believe him [05:24] I don't remember dancing on the bus [05:24] nixternal: he wasnt the one drinking [05:24] and dont say "you cant know i was drinking" because come on! [05:24] nobody was drinking at that point [05:25] uh huh [05:25] that's what made it all the more amusing [05:25] dtchen: wait, he really was sober? [05:25] oh [05:25] i don't drink! [05:25] that's a lie [05:26] tequila at 11am [05:26] i witnessed it! [05:26] breakfast of champions! [05:26] shit, I can't even use the Chicago timezone for that one, because it would have been 10am [05:26] hahaha [05:26] I wasn't the only one drinking tequila at 10am [05:26] err 11 [05:27] note to self: next event and maco is there, throw her in your pocket so she can't witness that stuff :p [05:27] nixternal: i wasnt in your pocket [05:27] er [05:27] i wont fit in your pocket [05:28] future tense! [05:28] hahahahahahaha [05:39] jjesse: the best comment ever is on your blog! [05:39] The Anointed One does not talk; nor does HE speak. HE “Reads”–as in using “Teleprompter One.” [05:39] now that is funny === santiago-ve is now known as foursixnine === foursixnine is now known as santiago-pgsql === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve [08:42] nixternal: I promise that when I get home (tomorrow morning) I will send you your pic, sorry...honestly, I forgot [09:43] * Riddell hugs claydoh for the beta page [09:49] free LWN subscription for members http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/03/24/ubuntu-members-get-free-lwn-subs/ === davmor2 is now known as davmor3 === davmor3 is now known as davmor2 [10:08] hm, are there some known problems with desktop effects on Jaunty? [10:08] I have 3D and OpenGL enabled, running, but can't activate DE, and can't find any X configuration [10:09] * Mamarok curses Xorg to have removed those infos from xorg.conf [10:14] successful desktop effects are a bit of a random thing in jaunty, works great for my intel card with UXA on but quite broken for others [10:17] Mamarok: which gfx card are you using [10:18] radeon hd 36500 [10:21] -0 [10:52] Mamarok: what does lspci say (need the other version system they are using) === davmor2 is now known as bolt_ === bolt_ is now known as davmor2 [11:17] a|wen: http://pastebin.com/m11c895ca [11:17] I tried it with both cards, ATI and Intel [11:20] Mamarok: so you're using the fglrx driver? [11:21] no, the radeon driver, fglrx is totally broken, freezes not only X but the whole computer [11:22] and on restart it starts a frozen X, so I got rid of it and reconfigured with the radeon one [11:23] but both 3D and OpenGL seem to work, according to glxgears and xdpyinfo [11:24] Mamarok: then you are lucky ... according to the man page there should be no 3d accel on your card [11:24] does glxinfo report that direct rendering works? [11:25] yes [11:26] strangely, the xorg.0.log tells me that acceleration could not be activated... [11:26] try to do a paste of the glxinfo output [11:27] the whole one or only the beginning? or is there a particular option that shortens the output? [11:27] just throw in all of it [11:28] moment... [11:29] a|wen: http://pastebin.com/m5f842dd3 [11:30] want the xorg.0.log too? [11:33] Mamarok: no nedd ... it says "OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer"; so it is not 3d accelerated completely [11:34] Mamarok: i use the radeon driver and have real 3d acceleration using my R300 card, and then it says "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL" [11:34] Mamarok: though the acceleration is not fast enough to be smooth (even useful :( ) [11:36] Mamarok: if you want at least some of the desktop effects to work, you might be able to use Xrender instead of openGL; that gives you at least the desktop wall and present windows [11:41] sad, as it used to work in Intrepid very well :( [11:42] Mamarok: with the radeon driver or fglrx? [11:42] with fglrx [11:42] Mamarok: XRender mode should work - not the best, but at least transparency [11:44] yes, it works, but I would like to have the whole working again some time... [11:44] yeah I have the same problem [11:44] the only thing that actually works with xrender is transparency [11:44] basically yes - most effects require OpenGL [11:45] Present Windows and desktop grid should work as well [11:45] and looks not that good TBH [11:45] nope, present windows doesn't [11:45] that could be fixed in 4.2.2 [11:46] bad, as I will have to present it next week at OpenExpo in Bern, I really consider going back to Intrepid for that so I can show some bling [11:47] present windows should work as it doesn't require OpenGL. Possible that the motion dynamics is too heavy for software rendering [11:47] gosh, I have a race horse of a laptop and can't use the minima :( [11:49] Mamarok: present windows works for me using xrender [11:50] * a|wen has never had any real luck with the fglrx drivers ... at least not combined with dual-screen and not crashing all the time [11:58] Riddell: Back again asking you for some bug to fix! [12:00] agateau: I e-mailed you yesterday [12:00] with a bug to be looked into [12:00] Riddel: oh [12:00] checking mail now [12:00] ok got it [12:00] phew [12:01] yes i remember you told me about that one [12:01] Oh cool, my Plasma patch got committed upstream ^_^ [12:02] JontheEchidna: crash fix? [12:03] nah, tooltips for the Quicklaunch applet icons [12:03] uhh, shiny :) [12:03] quite :D [13:09] Riddell (or anyone else in fact): have you been able to reproduce the screensaver bug? [13:09] I can't :/ [13:10] agateau: yes, if I lock the screen then take the power cable out it shows the notification [13:11] * agateau tries [13:11] ok, i can reproduce [13:11] thanks [13:11] i was trying with a shell loop on "kdialog --passivepopup" without success [13:12] I think it's specifically the plasma popups which are the issue [13:13] kdialog --passivepopup shows plasma popups [13:13] in fact i just reproduced it with kdialog [13:14] it didn't work before because I already had popups displayed [13:14] * agateau dives into the code, then [13:38] nixternal: thanks === Tonio_ is now known as tromdr_kevin [14:38] kwwii: no biggy dude, thanks :) had to mess with you because someone was bringing up "UDS Pictures" of me in compromising situations ;p === tromdr_kevin is now known as Tonio_ [14:46] nixternal: yeah, but still, I promised to send it quite some time ago :p === Pici` is now known as Pici [15:14] Riddell: just posted a patch for the notification bug on lp and bko. [15:16] agateau: gosh, how does it work? [15:16] Riddell: easy: take a solution that works (KPassivePopup), copy'n'paste the window flags, and here you are :) [15:17] at least it works-on-my-machine [15:21] Riddell: could you give me that 8.04=>9.04 link once again please? [15:22] freinhard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 [15:28] What's the official 8.10 -> 9.04 upgrade method? [15:28] * ScottK is going to try .... [15:28] ScottK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu [15:29] Riddell: Thanks. [15:36] Riddell: ubiquity still hasn't been merged :/ dunno if it is critical for beta or whatnot [15:37] shtylman: I pulled in the wordwrap fix, the rest is fine for after beta [15:37] shtylman: is it all ready to merge? [15:37] Riddell: ok [15:37] Riddell: the partition bar stuff is, and I think there were some tz map fixes [15:38] Riddell: it is in a working state...if thats what you mean :) [15:39] shtylman: not critical it's for after beta [15:39] i guess using apt-cacher is not a good idea? [15:43] * Riddell hasn't heard of apt-cacher [15:44] Riddell: caches apt downloads [15:44] upgrading three machines causes some traffic... [15:46] freinhard: using any kind of cacher could be a good idea in that case ... apt-cacher, squid or... === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:58] is kprinter from kde 3.5 included in latest kubuntu ? [15:59] or are there any plans to include it at least until kde4's version supports all of its functionality ? [16:00] pkt: I'm afraid it's not, at least apt-cache said so [16:02] oh, bummer, I 'd love to switch to kde4 but I can't if I can't print 2-sided :( [16:03] you can configure your printer with system-config-printer-kde in jaunty [16:03] pkt: i can't either [16:03] Riddell: the problem is not in configuring the printer [16:04] the UI is lacking the option to print separately "Odd" and "Even" pages [16:05] The upstream suggestion is to include kprinter from 3.5 until the kde4 is equivalent in functionality [16:11] pkt: got a printer with duplex unit but can't convince it to use it. [16:12] freinhard: so I guess you would benefit from "manual 2-sided" too, at least until you get your system to use your duplex unit :) [16:13] In my case, the price for the duplex unit was more than the whole printer is worth currently and it is also very hard to find [16:14] (not to mention that not supporting this widely-used feature is definitely a regression) [16:15] Riddell: If I click in the terminal area of the upgrader (to copy stuff out of it) while the upgrade is going on, the text starts updating from the place I clicked, not at the bottom. Known issue? [16:16] ScottK: I seem to remember it, report a bug anyway [16:16] I will. [16:16] Riddell: What package? [16:16] ScottK: update-manager [16:16] Riddell: Thanks. [16:19] pkt: i would benefit from a printerdriver that manages to use the duplex unit, i hate printing odd/even pages cause printers tend to take 2pages at a time and that screws up everything. besides i'm to lazy to walk to the printer twice ;) [16:20] well, I can't do anything for that, sorry :) [16:21] while for kprinter, the code is already there, so it is a distro bug imho [16:23] * freinhard just noticed that he got some unauthorized lines in his cups-error-log [16:26] why should someone want to keep obsolete packages after a dist-upgrade? [16:30] what do you mean obsolete ? [16:30] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 [16:30] if the new version is broken, then offering the old working version is the least one can do imho [16:30] step 6 [16:31] list of old kernel images gcc, packages that don't exist anymore etc. [16:31] can't think of a sane reason to keep them. but i guess there is one ;) [16:32] Riddell: encoding sucks ;) the german "Schließen" on the final "Restart required" dialog is rendered as "SchlieÃ en" [16:35] Riddell: where should i report problems after the distupgrade? [16:39] freinhard: here and launchpad and iso.qa.ubuntu.com [16:43] actually that might already be reported [16:43] there's an encoding fix due for KDE 4.2.2 [16:43] freinhard, Riddell^ [16:43] Riddell: didn't use any iso so i guess here's the right place: after booting the upgraded system i get a somewhat grey screen and a mouse pointer, thats it. [16:44] bug 344709 [16:44] Launchpad bug 344709 in kde4libs "kde 4.2.1 has problems showing certain utf-8 characters" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/344709 [16:46] JontheEchidna: it's probably an issue with pykde [16:46] freinhard: so just a blank screen? [16:47] Am I supposed to automagically have a Network Management widget somewhere or is it expected I have to add it? [16:48] Riddell: some shady grey background. [16:49] ScottK: you are expected to have it for new users only afaik ... at least i had to add it myself as well [16:49] Riddell: ^^^ This needs to be prominently mentioned in the release notes. [16:50] Riddell: would you mind adding a "cd /tmp/" to the beginning of the update script? [16:52] Riddell: any other bug for me? [16:55] agateau: think up a way to add network manager to plasma for newly upgraded users? [16:55] freinhard: but no sign of KDE or anything useful? what's running? [16:56] Riddell: mmm... I smell a hack here :) [16:56] freinhard: kdm seems to be running [16:56] freinhard: but you can't see it? [16:57] Riddell: I guess a kconf_update might be a way to do so [16:57] Riddell: nope, nothing asking me for a user and password [16:57] i'll try to nopaste the kdm log [16:57] hmm any package that provides a cli script? [16:58] agateau: maybe, so long as it doesn't get in the way of new installs [16:58] agateau: ask ScottK for a copy of his plasma-appletsrc [16:58] Riddell: this is going to be a pain to test... [16:59] agateau: use a chroot? [16:59] * agateau needs a bigger hd [17:02] agateau: http://pastebin.com/f7525d9d2 [17:02] ScottK: thanks [17:03] agateau: I reported this as Bug #349066, assuming it would be release notes material, so if you actually come up with a fix, please make that also affect the appropriate Ubuntu package. [17:03] Launchpad bug 349066 in ubuntu-release-notes "Release notes need to tell upgrade users how to add new network-manager widget" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349066 [17:03] should a wired networkconnection work before login? [17:03] here it doesn't [17:05] freinhard: under normal circumstances no (at least not with the recent way to generate /etc/network/interfaces) [17:05] * ScottK waves to a|wen_: Nice interview. [17:05] hmm ok, so thats not really good. so i've got to use usb stick, argh [17:06] * a|wen_ waves back ... thinks it is cool that it is actually being read :) [17:07] OK. So here I am on Jaunty .... [17:07] freinhard: you can just change the settings to start your wired connection [17:08] BTW, absolutlely no file conflict issues in KDE packages going intrepid-backports 4.2.0 to jaunty 4.2.1. [17:08] vorian: ^^^ Great job on the 4.2.1 packaging. [17:09] yeah, great job vorian! ... the upgrade went über-smooth for me as well :) [17:09] a|wen_: can i do that on commandline? [17:10] which interview? [17:10] how do i get a default xorg.conf? [17:11] freinhard: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [17:11] * claydoh just upgraded his intrepid box w/backports to Jaunty [17:11] freinhard: edit /etc/network/interfaces and ensure that the two lines "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" are there [17:11] blizzz: http://behindmotu.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/andreas-wenning-awen/ [17:12] a|wen_: ty [17:12] * a|wen_ thinks this upgrading to jaunty business starts looking like a trend [17:13] * claydoh had no unforseen hitches [17:13] anyone interested in my xorg.conf hat didn't work after the distupgrade? [17:13] yay to the team fantasttic work [17:15] Riddell or ScottK: the missing network applet *only* affect 8.10 users, not 8.04 users, right? [17:15] agateau: right, i got it on a 8.04->9.04 machine [17:16] \o/ [17:16] and i guess it's fair to assume user will restart kde/computer after upgrade [17:17] agateau: 8.04 too [17:17] agateau: yes restart will happen [17:17] yeah, there have been like 200k kernel changes since intrepid [17:17] :) [17:17] freinhard: file a bug and attach it [17:19] a|wen_: nice one [17:20] blizzz: thx [17:26] ScottK: strange enough, there is a network applet in your plasma-appletsrc file [17:28] agateau: I added it manually [17:28] ScottK: oh... I thought this was the file you got just after upgrading [17:30] That's how I got on the network. [17:33] Riddell: done: #349082 [17:33] the login graphics don't seem to support 1920X1080 res, [17:33] i get weird crap on either side [17:35] Riddell: have you heard anything further on being able to use LDTP with KDE at all? [17:35] it would be nice to start writing automated tests so we could rock with QA [17:36] vorian: it is widescreen in general (at least it is that way on intrepid) [17:37] ah, excellent [17:37] tagging done 56 minutes ago [17:51] besides the intel driver (EXA vs UXA) and the xorg.conf the upgrade succeded [17:52] a|wen_,vorian: i've got no kdmproblems with 1920x1200 on intrepid [17:54] freinhard: on the login screen? [17:55] freinhard: doesn't work for me on 1024x480 with kde 4.1.4 [17:58] yes, the kdm login screen worked for me with 4.1.* and then upgraded to 4.2.0 and got no problems either === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi [17:59] so looks to be a problem with certain screen resolutions; strange [18:04] hem, works fine now [18:06] nixternal: what's LDTP? [18:07] Linux Desktop Testing Project...AT-SPI stuff so you can create automated tests for desktop environments [18:07] oh, no idea [18:07] started by GNOME but it seems there is/was some work done on the KDE side, but mostly documentation it seems [18:08] I have been watching the Desktop Team and they are doing some killer work...it would be nice to integrate a bit with them and create/utilize automated testing stuff [18:08] QA Team rather in conjunction with the Desktop Team [18:30] * vorian responds to dude with look/feel suggestions on the mailing list [18:37] has beta release run into some snags? [18:45] josh-l: No. [18:45]