| BHSPitMonkey | Anyone know where in the filesystem I can find ubuntu logos? (SVG) | 00:53 |
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| BHSPitMonkey | I want one resembling the usplash | 00:53 |
| Cimi | kwwii, _MMA_ http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/murrine?view=revision&revision=170 | 01:29 |
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| Cimi | kwwii: _MMA_ ping | 08:19 |
| kwwii | Cimi: pong | 08:42 |
| Cimi | kwwii: please try svn | 08:42 |
| kwwii | Cimi: ok, will do | 08:42 |
| kwwii | after breakfast and a smoke :p | 08:43 |
| Cimi | I will be here for 45mins | 08:43 |
| Cimi | i'm at the university | 08:44 |
| kwwii | where/when will you be online again? I have a meeting in 15 min | 08:44 |
| kwwii | my days in london are spent in meetings :( | 08:44 |
| Cimi | maybe, *maybe*, about 18 CEST | 08:45 |
| kwwii | I'll try svn and then put it in jaunty if it seems ok | 08:45 |
| kwwii | what did you change? | 08:45 |
| Cimi | and I will be online till 19:30 | 08:45 |
| Cimi | no, do not put in on jaunty | 08:45 |
| Cimi | I will make a release | 08:45 |
| kwwii | well, I fly home tonight at 17 and get home around midnight | 08:46 |
| Cimi | I've changed the focus to be a rectangle | 08:46 |
| kwwii | killer :) | 08:46 |
| Cimi | the buttons have the rectangle inside | 08:46 |
| kwwii | I'll build it then and put it in my ppa so others can test it as well | 08:46 |
| Cimi | because I would like to keep the focus similar between every widget | 08:46 |
| kwwii | I liked the effect on the buttons | 08:46 |
| kwwii | cool, I will look into it asap...thanks! | 08:47 |
| Cimi | I don-t want few lines on a button, a rectangle on a label, a tux on a treeview :) | 08:47 |
| Cimi | the more it is shared between every widget the more it will be recognizeable as a common focus | 08:47 |
| thorwil | +1 | 08:47 |
| Cimi | that's why the focuson the buttons could be less nice (but is a matter of tastes) | 08:48 |
| Cimi | the big issue is the focus on the treeview items (the selected/colored ones) | 08:48 |
| Cimi | if you have a mockup, andrea.cimitan@gmail.com | 08:48 |
| thorwil | Cimi: what exactly is the probelm there? do you have screenshots where one could see it / one could work with? | 08:50 |
| Cimi | thorwil: it sucks | 08:51 |
| Cimi | that's the problem | 08:51 |
| Cimi | :) | 08:51 |
| Cimi | you could try it by installing murrine from svn | 08:51 |
| Cimi | svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/murrine/trunk murrine-trunk | 08:51 |
| Cimi | cd murrine-trunk | 08:52 |
| Cimi | ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr | 08:52 |
| Cimi | sudo make install | 08:52 |
| Cimi | the biggest issue is that that widget is usually colored, with base[SELECTED] | 08:53 |
| * thorwil has to install intltool | 08:53 | |
| Cimi | it's likely you're forced to use text[SELECTED] | 08:53 |
| Cimi | but then some themes use black (Human), others almost white (Clearlooks and similar) | 08:54 |
| Cimi | of course a dark black line is not so nice... | 08:55 |
| thorwil | Cimi: what theme should i use? | 08:55 |
| Cimi | you should use a variety of themes, if possible | 08:55 |
| Cimi | murrine is not just Human (hopefully :P) | 08:56 |
| Cimi | it should be ok with the majority | 08:56 |
| Cimi | another solution would be keep using the dots for that particular case | 08:57 |
| zniavre | firefox still using dot on notebook | 08:57 |
| Cimi | firefox is not Gtk | 08:58 |
| zniavre | oops sorry i believed we were in murrine room | 08:58 |
| Cimi | that's ok, until kwwii will understand he should autojoin #murrine :) | 08:58 |
| thorwil | Cimi: so you draw the selected item in a tree view both with a an active-selected bg and a focus frame, and this combination clashes in some themes? i don't quite see the need to draw the focus frame at all, in that case | 09:01 |
| Cimi | thorwil: even if it is selected could be not focused I guess | 09:02 |
| thorwil | and suspect the only other solution is to force theme authors to specify the colors specifically for that case | 09:02 |
| thorwil | Cimi: how would trhat ever happen? | 09:03 |
| Cimi | thorwil: when I click on a treeview item | 09:03 |
| Cimi | it is selected but I can't see the focus | 09:03 |
| thorwil | Cimi: doesn't happen here, but i just realized that separate focus happens with multiple slection via ctrl or shift | 09:04 |
| Cimi | mmm | 09:05 |
| thorwil | Cimi: so, use a different bg color for focused, or rely on theme authors to adjust colors for this case | 09:06 |
| Cimi | or I could draw the classic dots | 09:06 |
| Cimi | or a mockup is appreciated | 09:06 |
| Cimi | thorwil: just asked | 09:32 |
| Cimi | 10:02Cimibenzea: is the focus on the selected treeview item needed? 10:04*** uv joined #gnome-art 10:22benzeaCimi: yes, if you navigate it with ctrl+arrows 10:23Cimibenzea: but the items are selected, someone could just use bg[selected] 10:24Cimiwhat I want to say is that the items are selected only if they are focused 10:24Cimior I'm wrong? 10:27 | 09:32 |
| kwwii | the dots seem like the best idea to me | 09:32 |
| Cimi | I'm off, i will be back in one hour and I will stay for 5 mins | 09:33 |
| thorwil | gotta love how everyone has clear picture of the behaviour anf requirements of gtk, regarding theming ;) | 09:35 |
| kwwii | thorwil: interested in coming to UDS? | 09:44 |
| kwwii | in any case, I have suggested yourself and _MMA_ :) | 09:44 |
| kwwii | if you can think of anyone else or any subject to bring up there, please let me know | 09:44 |
| thorwil | kwwii: i'm torn on that. depends on the specifics | 09:45 |
| thorwil | kwwii: i thought that whole sponsoring thing was done and closed already? | 09:45 |
| kwwii | thorwil: nah, the art people always find a way around things | 09:46 |
| thorwil | heh | 09:46 |
| kwwii | thorwil: the good thing about this UDS is that there will be a real presence from our new team | 09:46 |
| kwwii | and I will be putting out quite a but of information on a daily basis | 09:46 |
| kwwii | past UDS's have been more or less constructive whereas this one is going to be the bomb ;) | 09:47 |
| thorwil | kwwii: i would sure like to get to know the people and _if_ i stay with my current job, making time shouldn't be a problem | 09:48 |
| thorwil | kwwii: the question is rather what i would do there, constructively | 09:48 |
| kwwii | thorwil: well, we have a list of themeing issues for karmic that we would like to explore, in addition we are working on a re-branding, new websites, etc | 09:50 |
| kwwii | so there will be lots to discuss | 09:51 |
| thorwil | heh, starts with my birthday | 09:59 |
| * thorwil wonders if lyx could be a good option for documentation with quite a number of images | 10:12 | |
| thorwil | savvas: hi, seen http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/03/24/ubuntu-904-free-culture-showcase-winners/ ? | 10:19 |
| savvas | thorwil: no, reading it now :) | 10:25 |
| savvas | darn, we've lost :( | 10:28 |
| savvas | oh well, invocation sounds nice :P | 10:31 |
| Cimi | kwwii: I'm here | 10:34 |
| thorwil | savvas: yes, i understand that decision :) | 10:37 |
| Cimi | ... | 11:13 |
| * kwwii returns from a meeting, only to go into another | 11:34 | |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: You'll have to practice your English. :P | 12:29 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: and you will have to endure some of it, then :) | 12:31 |
| _MMA_ | hahahahhaha | 12:34 |
| Cimi | ;-) | 16:08 |
| thorwil | if Cimi is here now, kwwii must be in a meeting ;) | 16:10 |
| Cimi | I will be here till 19:30 CEST | 16:11 |
| Cimi | 2 hours | 16:11 |
| * thorwil giggles | 16:21 | |
| _MMA_ | heheheheheh | 16:25 |
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