[02:50] <greg-g> whoa, 10 days to get a stack trace on an apport bug? bug 343035
[03:25] <maxb> If there's a bugcontrol member idling here, please Importance-->Wishlist bug 348729 (rationale: Feature Request)
[03:57] <dtchen> maxb: done
[05:58] <dholbach> good morning
[07:09] <YoBoY> hi dholbach
[07:09] <YoBoY> good morning
[07:39] <thekorn> good morning bugsquad!
[07:43] <dominiks> morning
[09:41] <BUGabundo> guud morning
[09:55] <Laser871> hi everybody! am i right here when i think that i found a bug in the persistent installation of jaunty?
[11:57] <BUGabundo> calc: ping
[11:58] <BUGabundo> why did you reopened the bug from yesterday?
[12:05] <theseinfeld> how strange, I am member of bugcontrol but cannot change the Importance of a bug
[12:05] <theseinfeld> any idea why?
[12:06] <theseinfeld> anybody? Anybody else from BugControl team here?
[12:07] <theseinfeld> Brian? bdmurray, can you confirm?
[12:07] <james_w> which bug?
[12:08] <theseinfeld> the one with problem is #348649
[12:08] <theseinfeld> bug 348649
[12:10] <theseinfeld> james_w can you change the importance?
[12:10] <thekorn> theseinfeld, well, this is not a bug in ubuntu, members of bugcontrol can only change the importance for bugs in ubuntu
[12:12] <theseinfeld> what about debian?
[12:12] <Hobbsee> nor in debian.
[12:13] <thekorn> same there
[12:13] <Hobbsee> if you're in ~ubuntu-bugcontrol, that *only* has power for ubuntu.
[12:13] <theseinfeld> ok, that explains everything. Thanks thekorn and Hobbsee...
[12:53] <jjardon> hello, can anyone help me triaging bug #348275
[12:53] <jjardon> I'm the reporter so I can help
[13:03] <IntuitiveNipple> torkiano: Does the PC also have a wired connection?
[13:04] <torkiano> IntuitiveNipple, no, only wifi. but I have other computer
[13:04] <IntuitiveNipple> torkiano: OK, just trying to rule out issues. One is that in some circumstances NM has that problem when a wired connection is also active
[13:05] <torkiano> IntuitiveNipple, the laptop have a ethernet port but nothing is connected in it
[13:06] <IntuitiveNipple> torkiano: that's fine
[13:07] <BUGabundo> torkiano: you are better of asking asac to help you out
[13:07] <IntuitiveNipple> torkiano: Have you tried deleting the locally stored WiFi secret from the user keyring and re-entering it when prompted by NM?
[13:07] <thekorn> IntuitiveNipple, does this look like a kernel bug, or a bug in network-manager
[13:07] <BUGabundo> or it could be a kernel (lacking driver) bug
[13:07] <IntuitiveNipple> thekorn: Can't say as yet, there are several very similar reports
[13:07]  * BUGabundo reads the bug
[13:07] <thekorn> IntuitiveNipple, right, and some of them are against NM
[13:08] <BUGabundo> torkiano: what ubuntu version are you using?
[13:08] <thekorn> so maybe it is time to create one big master bugreport
[13:08] <torkiano> IntuitiveNipple, yes. deleting the locally stores wifi worked before, but no now
[13:08] <BUGabundo> if ibex can you enable backport
[13:08] <torkiano> BUGabundo, jaunty
[13:08] <BUGabundo> and install the kernel avilable there
[13:08] <BUGabundo> its looks to me it more of a kernel bug
[13:08] <BUGabundo> I have that card
[13:08] <BUGabundo> works fine on wpa2
[13:08] <BUGabundo> ok jaunty, can't be kernel
[13:09] <BUGabundo> how far are you from the AP?
[13:09] <BUGabundo> run $ nm-tool
[13:09] <BUGabundo> and let us know the signal strenth!
[13:09] <torkiano> BUGabundo, 2 meters ;-)
[13:09] <IntuitiveNipple> OK, I see the problem
[13:09] <BUGabundo> I've learned that anything bellow 55% won't allow me to connect
[13:09] <BUGabundo> torkiano:  $ nm-tool ?
[13:10] <asac> torkiano: use nm-applet and not knetworkmanager
  get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get connection secrets: User refused to supply secrets.
[13:10] <BUGabundo> torkiano: what AP do you have? some have strange auth probs
[13:10] <asac> thats a knetworkmanager bug for sure
[13:10] <BUGabundo> like the ones from FON
[13:10] <asac> torkiano: are you running the plasmoid applet?
[13:10] <BUGabundo> ok you are now in good hands
[13:11] <BUGabundo> time for lunch
[13:11] <BUGabundo> bb
[13:11] <BUGabundo> bbl
[13:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Oh, using kde?
[13:11] <asac> yes
[13:11] <asac> he runs kubuntu
[13:11] <asac> and I want to know if this is a bug in plasma applet
[13:11] <asac> i was promissed that it works
[13:11] <torkiano> I have ubuntu and kubuntu in the same laptop
[13:11] <asac> but from what i see here its completely broken
[13:11] <IntuitiveNipple> I saw that message but as it came 'later' I thought it was a result of the dialog-box prompt being dismissed
[13:11] <torkiano> now i am in ubuntu
[13:11] <asac> torkiano: well. that syslog in the bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/348275 is kubuntu
[13:11] <torkiano> thank you BUGabundo
[13:12] <asac> torkiano: can you tell me if its plasmoid or knetworkmanager please
[13:12] <thekorn> bug 338680 looks similar, and it is ubuntu
[13:12] <torkiano> asac, yes but the problem happen in ubuntu too
[13:12] <IntuitiveNipple> asac: This concerned me (after loads of drm errors): "iwlagn: MAC is in deep sleep!"
[13:13] <IntuitiveNipple> asac: followed by "phy0: failed to restore operational channel after scan"
[13:13] <asac> torkiano: please answer my question
[13:13] <asac> torkiano: i want to know which applet you used when you got the syslog
[13:13] <asac> so i can assign that bug properly. ubuntu we can look later
[13:13] <torkiano> asac, sorry, I used the plasma applet
[13:14] <asac> torkiano: ok thanks. can you post that to the bug please
[13:15] <torkiano> asac, Do you want that I make a new syslog from Ubuntu?
[13:17] <asac> torkiano: did the plasma thing ask for secrets at all?
[13:18] <torkiano> asac, yes
[13:19] <torkiano> the behaviour is the same in kubuntu and in ubuntu: can't connect and the ask me for the pass again
[13:20] <asac> torkiano: ok i am out for an hour or so ... i will come back to you
[13:20] <torkiano> asac, ok thank you
[13:20] <torkiano> asac, see you later ;-)
[14:53] <milki__> update-manager just showed me a dozen cups* packages to upgrade. there was a misfeature in one of them, and now it wants to download A DOZEN packages. -- so what's the point in splitting everything up into micropackages, if there are such hard-wired version dependencies?
[15:33] <bcurtiswx-mini> dtchen: the kernel changes from the link you sent me last night do not fix my crackling problem
[15:34] <brianchidester> bcurtiswx-mini: what machine is this on?
[15:35] <brianchidester> that you have the crackling problem
[15:35] <torkiano> hello, i've reported the bug #349029
[15:35] <bcurtiswx-mini> brianchidester: dell mini 9 with jaunty
[15:36] <brianchidester> bcurtiswx-mini: unr or desktop?
[15:36] <torkiano> about crash in glade, is necessary more information? thank you
[15:36] <bcurtiswx-mini> brianchidester: unr jaunty 5 been updating ever since
[15:37] <torkiano> mmm, seems to be a duplicate of bug #340695
[15:37] <brianchidester> bcurtiswx-mini: is there a bug for it?
[15:37] <bcurtiswx-mini> brianchidester: yes
[15:37] <bcurtiswx-mini> want the link?
[15:37] <torkiano> Can someone confirm this?
[15:38] <brianchidester> bcurtiswx-mini: yes please
[15:40] <bcurtiswx-mini> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/342946
[15:41] <bcurtiswx-mini> theres others too, Bug #345627
[15:41] <bcurtiswx-mini> Bug #347588
[15:43] <BUGabundo> does all sound like related to dtchen fix
[15:43] <bcurtiswx-mini> brianchidester: i have to scoot away for about an hour.  We can talk when I get back if you would like to.
[15:43] <BUGabundo> bug 330814
[15:43] <thekorn> torkiano, I agree, your bug is a duplicate of the other one
[15:43] <bcurtiswx-mini> BUGabundo: i just know he works wiht sound issues, it helps were in the same LoCo
[15:43] <bcurtiswx-mini> anyways, bbl
[15:44] <bcurtiswx-mini> someone should relink that puppy
[15:44] <bcurtiswx-mini> lol
[15:54] <torkiano> thekorn, ok I'll mark it as duplicate
[15:54] <thekorn> super
[16:06] <asac> torkiano: so can you please reboot, log into your kubuntu and try exactly one connect attempt with the plasma thing
[16:06] <asac> and then attach the syslog to the bug
[16:06] <asac> if it asks you for secret, enter your secret
[16:06] <asac> but only once
[16:06] <asac> thanks
[16:08] <BUGabundo> asac: I think ge left
[16:08] <BUGabundo> *he
[16:08] <asac> BUGabundo: his nick is still alive
[16:08] <BUGabundo> yes
[16:09] <BUGabundo> well lets wait and see
[16:09] <torkiano> asac, ok
[16:09] <torkiano> see you
[16:22] <torkiano> asac: new using plasma applet  added
[16:22] <torkiano> asac: new syslog using plasma applet  added
[16:22] <torkiano> asac: bug #348275
[16:33] <asac> torkiano: didnt i say that that bug is only about kubuntu ;)?
[16:33] <asac> please listen
[16:33] <asac> ;)
[16:34] <asac> torkiano: also i said: reboot, connect and attach the syslog
[16:34] <asac> ;)
[16:34] <asac> you attached part of the syslog
[16:35] <torkiano> asac: all the syslog since i start the computer?
[16:37] <asac> torkiano: yes
[16:38] <asac> torkiano: i asked you to restart your computer
[16:38] <asac> try to connect once
[16:38] <asac> and then submit log
[16:38] <asac> but only kubuntu
[16:39] <torkiano> ok, sorry. I was in ubuntu and i restarted to kubuntu XD. One moment ;-)
[16:49] <torkiano> asac: complete syslog added
[16:51] <torkiano> I hope it is ok
[16:54] <asac> torkiano: ok. so you try to connect. and then nothing happens and when it fails you get ask for passphrase and you cancel that?
[16:54] <asac> torkiano: do you own that AccessPoint or is that a foreign one?
[16:54] <asac> e.g. public
[16:55] <torkiano> I try to connect and it ask me for the pass, then nothing happens and when it fails I get ask for passphrase and I cancel
[16:55] <torkiano> asac: the accesspoint is mine
[16:56] <torkiano> asac: a friend with a 2200BG wireless card can connect
[16:57] <asac> torkiano: what type of network is that? a, b, g, n?
[16:57] <torkiano> asac: g
[17:07] <torkiano> asac: reassign to linux?
[17:45] <asac> while it tries to connect .. can you run iwconfig every one second or so
[17:46] <asac> and observe how it changes
[17:46] <asac> e.g. assocaited/not-assocaited
[17:46] <asac> etc
[18:05] <jjardon> asac, Not-Associated all the time
[18:06] <asac> and the frequency? does it look like it switches frequency?
[18:06] <asac> is the ESSID at least set?
[18:06] <asac> or is that empty too?
[18:06] <asac> jjardon: ?
[18:10] <jjardon> asac, not frecuancy changues and yes, the ESSID is set
[18:12] <asac> jjardon: if you use iwlagn try to install the linux-backport-modules-jaunty package and reboot
[18:19] <torkiano> asac ok, i reboot now
[18:33] <torkiano> asac, nothing I can't connect
[18:33] <torkiano> Do you want the syslog?
[19:11] <mvo> sbeattie: hi, re bug #348531 - did you try to use media-import during the upgrade ?
[19:11] <sbeattie> mvo: nope; that was after rebooting.
[19:12] <sbeattie> mvo: I'll add that information to the bug, sorry.
[19:12] <mvo> sbeattie: thanks, I'm currently trying to figure out what is going on
[19:13] <sbeattie> mvo: I can bring that vm back up, if there's anything you'd like me to poke at it.
[19:15] <sbeattie> I kind of assumed there's a dependency missing that I didn't get because I wasn't upgrading an actual mobile image; it was just some of the set of packages I'd installed.
[19:20] <mvo> sbeattie: could you please include /var/log/apt/term.log ?
[19:23] <sbeattie> sure thing
[19:25] <sbeattie> mvo: you want dist-upgrade/term.log or just apt/term.log?
[19:25] <mvo> d /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log (if you have that) and term.log in that dir if you have that
[19:25] <mvo> ^--- seb128
[19:25] <mvo> sbeattie: --^
[19:25] <mvo> seb128: sorry
[19:30] <sbeattie> mvo: attached.
[19:30] <mvo> thanks sbeattie
[19:31] <mvo> sbeattie: one more thing, what timestamp does the crash file have?
[19:33] <mvo> hm, the exact time of the crash seems to be missing in the crash file you added
[19:33] <sbeattie> 2009-03-25 11:57
[19:33] <mvo> odd
[19:33] <mvo> thanks
[19:34] <sbeattie> indeed, in the crash file itself, there's a Date field.
[19:34] <mvo> and that matches the 11:57 time?
[19:34] <mvo> apport should always include that :)
[19:34] <sbeattie> yes, it matches, and yes, apport should always include that.
[19:34] <mvo> :)
[19:34] <mvo> thanks!
[19:41] <sbeattie> mvo: bug 349139, if you wish to comment.
[19:44] <YoBoY> byg 349043 << confirmed, i think it's a Critical bug
[19:46] <YoBoY> bug 349043 << confirmed, i think it's a Critical bug
[19:46] <YoBoY> (sorry)
[19:48] <pedro_> YoBoY: are you testing those with which Ubuntu version?
[19:48] <YoBoY> 8.10
[19:48] <pedro_> YoBoY: works fine with Jaunty BTW
[19:49] <YoBoY> perhap's but should be backported :p
[19:51] <mvo> thanks sbeattie
[19:51] <pedro_> YoBoY: don't think so, only high impacts bugs are backported to the stable release -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/ ; that report doesn't fit into that category
[19:52] <pedro_> mvo: since you're around, may you have a look to bug 308920 ?
[19:53] <YoBoY> well ok it's not critical :) but could be patched if it's not backported, because the gcalctool is a central accessorie i think
[19:54] <seb128> YoBoY: perhaps it's time to upgrade to jaunty ;-)
[19:55] <calc> anyone know what joel goguen's irc nick is?
[19:55] <YoBoY> lol
[19:55] <mvo> sbeattie: if you run "media-import" in a terminal, does it print the same error?
[19:55] <pedro_> calc: jgoguen, doesn't seems to be around atm
[19:55] <YoBoY> seb128: perhaps we could not support intrepid for the next year also :p
[19:55] <seb128> YoBoY: intrepid is not a lts version and jaunty is due stable in a month, gcalctool is not likely to get stable updates now
[19:55] <calc> pedro_: ok
[19:55] <calc> pedro_: i just noticed it was listed he is interested in OOo
[19:55] <sbeattie> mvo: yep
[19:55] <seb128> YoBoY: supported doesn't mean any single bug fix will be backported there
[19:56] <mvo> sbeattie: is the problem fixed is you install "moblin-media" manually ?
[19:57] <YoBoY> ok ok, someone have tested on hardy?
[19:57] <mvo> pedro_: its on my agend for tomorrow (to fix it, not to comment on it) - but without a UI option initially because of the ui freeze
[19:57] <seb128> bbl
[20:00] <sbeattie> mvo: yep, that fixes it; wonder why it doesn't depend on mobile-media...
[20:00] <pedro_> mvo: oki doki, thanks for checking
[20:00] <sbeattie> err s/mobile/moblin/
[20:00] <mvo> sbeattie: yeah, fixing that now
[20:00] <mvo> sbeattie: I wonder why this was not detected ages ago :)
[20:01] <pedro_> calc: yeah!, I'm going to send an email in a few mins introducing him to you and to asac (he's also interested on firefox). he's a good material and pretty good for finding and filing report upstream ;-)