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asacfta: i reallly think this patch was good00:01
asaci mean it doesnt do any win-dns negotiation at least anymore00:01
asacerr wins-...00:01
asachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/137870/00:03
asacthats what i had before00:03
asachmm ... sitll have the same in fact ;)00:03
BUGabundoguud morning09:41
asacsigh09:41
asacBUGabundo: not to you ;)09:41
asacgood morning09:41
asacsigh about folks in bugs saying something doesnt work ;)09:41
asacthats ok in general. but not if you firmly believe that it works ;)09:42
asaci just expect that they are too lame to actually test what i asked for properly09:42
BUGabundoeheh09:42
BUGabundoI read a few of those myself09:42
BUGabundoI may not be the best bug reporter ever09:43
BUGabundobut I do try to make it up with details and logs09:43
asacits all fine. its just that its a huge problem when time is running low09:43
BUGabundoasac: did you manage to take a look at the SiS but I sent you yesterday?09:43
asaclike in the past i had fixes for issues reported for RC09:43
asacand dumb bug folks just were too confused to test them properly09:43
asacand so the patches didnt land because they said:" doesnt work ... or even: makes things worse"09:44
BUGabundoeheh09:44
BUGabundothat's *helpful*09:44
asacBUGabundo: you were gone09:44
asacBUGabundo: i wanted to say: if you need noacpi09:44
asacits usually a bios upgrade you need ;)09:44
BUGabundoI did need it09:45
BUGabundowithout it the machine doesn't start09:45
BUGabundotell that to SiS... no BIOS from them09:45
BUGabundoeheh09:45
BUGabundoI love to read those boot messages where it states that a dummie bios was used by the kernel09:45
asacyeha. but in general its a bad start ;)09:45
BUGabundoand to contact manufacture about bad hw09:46
asacanyway. when you are connected and have no traffic09:46
asacrun iwconfig09:46
asacevery 10 seconds09:46
asacand observe how frequency changes and so on09:46
BUGabundoI don't have the machine now09:46
asaci assume its always moving frequencies09:47
BUGabundoill run further tests on Saturday, maybe09:47
BUGabundobah I just saw that I have connman running09:53
BUGabundodo we really need it?09:53
BUGabundoor can I remove it?09:53
asaci love firedrills ;)10:06
asacfta_nano: i know you must be quite demotivated, but can you verify that this http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24350587/77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules also detects your modem?10:07
asac[reed]: can you add stuff to blacklist for lets say "jaunty"?10:29
asacplugin blacklist that is10:29
asacflash 9 seems to crash all the time10:29
asaci would think its because of some underlying lib and not a general problem with ffox 3 and flash 910:30
[reed]asac: hmm, not sure10:31
[reed]would need for jaunty to have some unique abi that we support10:31
asac[reed]: unique abi? doesnt the blacklist also submit "OS" / "version" ?10:32
[reed]submit? nothing is submitted10:33
[reed]it's pulled down10:33
[reed]and client acts on it10:33
[reed]Components.classes["@mozilla.org/xre/app-info;1"]10:33
[reed]          .getService(Components.interfaces.nsIXULRuntime)10:33
[reed]          .XPCOMABI10:33
asacah10:33
[reed]run that in jaunty firefox10:33
[reed]what do you get?10:33
[reed](use error console)10:33
asacnormal abi10:34
asacx86-gcc310:34
[reed]hmm10:34
[reed]does flash on jaunty have any unique name, description, or filename?10:34
asac[reed]: no. its adobe flash10:35
asacusers that have packages have no issue as they would get upgraded10:35
[reed]then probably not10:35
asaconly folks that installed 9 now cannot run ffox anymore10:35
[reed]:/10:35
[reed]unless we just blocklisted flash 9 in general10:35
[reed]for some reason10:35
asacthtas the best idea i think ;)10:35
asacotherwise we would have to resurrect the "blacklist suppletmented by distro" apporach10:36
asaci wrote a caching webservice for that at some point10:36
asacbut we never deployed10:36
asacit10:36
asace.g. pull in blacklist from mozilla ... add something ... ship that10:36
asacbut i would like not to do that10:36
asacmaybe the blocklist url should get OS/VERSION at some point? similar to plugin finder?10:36
[reed]no, it's not meant that way10:38
[reed]let me ask Mossop something10:38
[reed]so, how does one know firefox on jaunty is jaunty?10:39
[reed]like, what have you changed?10:39
asac[reed]: in which sense?10:40
asaci think the problem why flash crashes is that new alsa/pulseaudio kills its10:40
asaclike the pulseaudio plugin we have in alsa is a suspect for issues10:40
[reed]how would you recognize only jaunty firefox?10:40
BUGabundoupstream .so 64bits works fine here10:40
asac[reed]: we can add a parameter to the URL10:40
BUGabundohttp://www.ustream.tv/channel/bugabundo10:40
asacBUGabundo: flash 9?10:40
BUGabundois broadcasting without any glitch10:40
BUGabundo1010:41
asacBUGabundo: thats not the topic ;)10:41
BUGabundoahh10:41
BUGabundolost the '9'10:41
[reed]asac: oh, you'd do a release10:41
asacthe topic is: flash 9 kills firefox10:41
[reed]of a new firefox10:41
asac[reed]: which url is used for plugin blocklisting?10:43
asacits not the same used for extensions i guess10:43
[reed]oh10:45
asacgnomefreak: fta_nano: http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/03/24/ubuntu-members-get-free-lwn-subs/10:45
[reed]we apparently do send all that info10:45
[reed]https://addons.mozilla.org/blocklist/2/%APP_ID%/%APP_VERSION%/%PRODUCT%/%BUILD_ID%/%BUILD_TARGET%/%LOCALE%/%CHANNEL%/%OS_VERSION%/%DISTRIBUTION%/%DISTRIBUTION_VERSION%/10:45
asacgnomefreak: fta_nano: i was told to remember ubuntu members about that option10:45
asac[reed]: yeah. if that is used we can include DISTRIBUTION10:45
asacand OS_VERSION10:45
asacand everything ;)10:45
asaclet me look up the bug we had once10:46
[reed]just check your extensions.blocklist.url10:46
asacyeah10:46
[reed]I recommend you don't do your proxy list and continue to go direct to Mozilla10:46
[reed]we use that for stats10:46
gnomefreakasac: thanks ill look. i havent yet heard of it10:46
[reed]it would make our metrics people extremely unhappy with you10:46
asac[reed]: yeah i know10:47
asac[reed]: i think distribution is really something else anyway10:47
asacits what we have in distribution.ini10:47
[reed]is it unique per release (jaunty, intrepid, etc.?)10:47
asac[reed]: no. we use distribution=canonical and version=1.0 .. we could definitly make the version more sensible10:48
asacbut let me first try to find the bug we had10:48
asacabout the stats10:48
[reed]k10:48
asac[reed]: do you remember the number ;)?10:48
* asac needs a memory upgrade10:48
[reed]lol, I don't know what bug you're talking about10:48
asacMOZILLA BUG 46976010:48
ubottuMozilla bug 469760 in Add-ons Manager "blocklist url %LOCALE% replaced with general.useragent.locale value, but without resolving complex value on ubuntu" [Major,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46976010:49
asacyeah10:49
asacso https://addons.mozilla.org/blocklist/2/%7Bec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384%7D/3.0.4/Firefox/2008111319/Linux_x86_64-gcc3/chrome://global/locale/intl.properties/default/Linux%202.6.27-7-generic%20(GTK%202.14.4)/canonical/1.0/10:49
asacseems its really what is in distribution.ini10:49
asacthe values in there are currently govered by trademark agreement10:49
asacso DISTRIBUTION and DISTRIBUTION_VERISON isnt an option10:49
[reed]why haven't you fixed that yet?10:50
asacalso it would only help our builds10:51
[reed]it's a bug on your end, yes?10:51
asac[reed]: its fixed in jaunty10:51
[reed]k10:51
asac[reed]: yes. but because i got confirmed that we are counted i couldnt justify a SRU10:51
asacso its just fixed in jaunty and after10:51
[reed]ok10:51
asac[reed]: so maybe that url should also encode other system libs10:52
asaclike alsa ...10:52
asacor whatever can lead to crashes of plugins that dont happen everywhere10:52
asacbut well. i am not sure if its worth it10:52
asaclets see how many complains we get about crashing firefox10:52
asacand then decide if we need to do something10:53
asacits just annyoing that flash is not auto updated if installed in profile10:53
[reed]seems like you could work something out with legal about using distribution version10:53
asac[reed]: yeah. true. but as i said it wouldnt help your "official" builds10:53
asacthey will also crash on jaunty i guess10:53
asacwith flash 910:53
[reed]true10:54
asaclet me first find out whats the cause10:54
asaci will come back to you ;)10:54
gnomefreakasac: its way too late to push new sunbird (fixed icons) to jaunty right?11:49
asacgnomefreak: no11:50
asacgnomefreak: i think its ok if its just that change11:50
asacits a bug11:50
asacgnomefreak: did it work?11:51
gnomefreakasac: just those changes at this time and its ready11:51
asacBUGabundo: connman -> you installed it voluntarily. did you ever try it?11:51
gnomefreakasac: yep :)11:51
BUGabundonope11:51
asacheh11:52
gnomefreakim pushing to PPA for jaunty atm since they failed to push yesterdya11:52
BUGabundonever found a chance to11:52
asacBUGabundo: so if you dont plan to try it you can uninstall it obviously ;)11:52
BUGabundoalready did11:52
asacgnomefreak: did you tr ylocally?11:52
BUGabundoone thing strange with my wifi card (intel abgn 4965)11:52
asacgnomefreak: if so no need to push it to ppa ... just proposed the merge11:52
asacBUGabundo: yeah11:52
BUGabundosignal as low as 55% and it won't connect11:52
gnomefreakasac: ill check email and approve it in ~30 mins-1hour. im still waiting seamonkey and flashgot too but flashgot is likely not going to make it in jaunty11:54
asacBUGabundo: wait a second ... bb in a minute11:54
asacBUGabundo: while [ true ]; do sleep 1; date | tee -a /tmp/iwconfig.log.txt; iwconfig | tee -a /tmp/iwconfig.log.txt; done12:01
asaccan you start that before connecting. and then try to connect12:01
BUGabundook12:01
asacand when it fails post iwconfig.log.txt12:01
BUGabundolet me copy the comand to my cheat nots12:01
gnomefreakBUGabundo: be careful in +1 please12:09
BUGabundook12:09
gnomefreakthanks12:12
gnomefreakwas the daily bot turned off or broken?12:15
gnomefreaknevermind i got tbird update but no firefox 3.5 3.612:16
BUGabundoyeah12:16
BUGabundoI haven't got any FF dailys for a few days12:16
BUGabundofta is it failing12:16
BUGabundo?12:16
asacgnomefreak: they are broken atm12:25
gnomefreakasac: ah ok thanks :)12:25
asaclet me confirm that12:26
asacyeah it fails on tests12:36
asacdoing a build now12:37
* asac thinks that spinning 3 mozillas at the smae time isnt good for my laptop12:41
BUGabundoeheh12:42
BUGabundosure it is12:42
BUGabundoisn't it a dual quad core?12:43
ftajust wanted to see how long it will take to be noticed... and fixed ;)12:51
gnomefreaki think i noticed it yesterday when i only got chromium updates this was afternoon after i left here but dont remember12:55
gnomefreakyep the 22nd was last 3.5 update12:55
c0p3rn1chi gnomefreak, I'm here to remind you of flash64 :-)13:02
asacfta: i am at least building 3.6 locally now ;)13:03
asacBUGabundo: CPU isnt the problem. IO is13:03
ftahttp://libresoft.es/Members/herraiz/blog/linux-is-not-free-software13:03
gnomefreakc0p3rn1c: its unlikey to happen for a while, i have a few other things i need to look after. I will look for the tarball when i get a spare moment.13:04
ftaasac, the fix is trivial, i just didn't have time, i focused on this 3G disaster :P13:04
c0p3rn1cgnomefreak: ehm maybe I could do it all for you, just tell me what to do exactly and then I'll google my ass off :)13:05
gnomefreakc0p3rn1c: looking for the real tarball not one that has .so in the name13:05
asacfta: yeah ;) ... i will see what happens here.13:06
c0p3rn1cgnomefreak: what should it contain then ?13:06
asacfta: have you ever managed to create a real auto connection?13:06
gnomefreakanother problem that i will run into is hacking the files from 386 to 64 or merge in the 64 to orig scripts13:06
gnomefreakc0p3rn1c: files  other than bleh.so13:06
ftaasac, yes, same problem13:06
asacfta: did you check the mtu yet?13:06
ftai even tried to lower the mtu in pppd/options13:07
asacyes.13:08
c0p3rn1cgnomefreak: I should first learn how to make a ubuntu package, after that I should take a look at the current "flash64".deb13:08
c0p3rn1cright?13:09
gnomefreakc0p3rn1c: the packaging part is the hardest to learn since the scripts need a massive overhaul you wont find a .deb anywhere unless you modift the scrits to build it than it will grab upstream package and than install the .deb13:12
gnomefreakc0p3rn1c: adobe doesnt make a 64bit deb AFAIK i know they at one time ported it for Ubuntu but i dont remember if it happened or not13:12
gnomefreaki would perfer to merge the 2 instead of 2 separate scripts but that i will leave to someone that knows the in and outs of flash packaging.13:17
c0p3rn1cok13:18
c0p3rn1cmaybe I should call adobe :p13:18
* c0p3rn1c has a lot of time today :-)13:19
ftahm, no idea why fta_nano timed out, seems like xchat and wifi doesn't mix very well13:25
gnomefreakany idea what package controls the media keys on the keyboard?13:49
gnomefreaki think its more of a typing on keyboard and trying to use buttons at same time its because keyboard is already in use, it is labled as a firefox bug atm but im betting it happens in any apps you type in14:01
gnomefreakbug 33889214:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 338892 in firefox-3.0 "3 errors and more" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33889214:37
blogdudelHi all there is a bug in ubuntu 9.04 latest build 3g huawei Model e160 did not work, stick dit not recognized when plugd in, driver not loaded15:51
BUGabundoblogdudel: is it filed on launchpad already?15:53
BUGabundowe need to keep track of them15:53
BUGabundounder a master bug15:53
BUGabundoasac: ping ^^^^^15:53
ftathis is a known bug, and we have a fix already15:53
ftai own an e160 too15:53
BUGabundoblogdudel: you are the one I dented on identica aren't you ?15:53
blogdudelhey sounds good jey i am ;)15:54
blogdudelidenti.ca blogdudel my english is very bad sorry ;)15:55
* gnomefreak someday will learn how to use identi.ca and gwitter15:58
BUGabundohehe15:58
BUGabundognomefreak: what's your prob with it?15:58
BUGabundoask the Human MAN(ual) > me15:59
gnomefreakBUGabundo: not sure yet i havent played with it.15:59
BUGabundowell its wbkitt16:00
BUGabundoit shows you your life stream and the ones you folow on one tab16:00
gnomefreakbeen busy here maybe one day i learn it16:00
BUGabundoand replies and DMs on the other16:00
BUGabundoyou can use the text bar to enter text16:01
BUGabundoor the arrows to reply to users16:01
BUGabundosince you don't follow many ppl, that should be easy16:01
gnomefreaki have to figure out if i wwant to use email or rss i get enough emails but i think i used one that i get few in16:01
gnomefreakthe posts go right into gwitter?16:02
BUGabundome on the other hand have16:02
BUGabundo                 Subscriptions         212                         Subscribers         180                Notices        697616:02
BUGabundono need for emai16:03
BUGabundoyou can turn it of on identica Connect menu16:03
asacback16:05
gnomefreakit keeps failing to connect with 404 errors :(16:05
BUGabundognomefreak: gwibber?16:06
gnomefreakBUGabundo: yes16:06
BUGabundowhat version?16:06
BUGabundoSSL is up and running16:06
BUGabundois your login data ok?16:06
gnomefreakah there we go but still shows errors16:06
BUGabundoerror 500 ?16:07
BUGabundoI'm getting them too now that you talk about it16:07
gnomefreaki see your posts now so i will clear error and see16:08
gnomefreaknow i see 40116:08
asacblogdudel: there?16:09
blogdudelok delete the account quit gwibber , start gwibber enter korrekt login and it wil work .. i thing there ist something wrong with it i have tu try 5 times16:09
asacblogdudel: see bug 34683516:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 346835 in network-manager "MASTER - modems not detected - udev prober broken (Was: Huawei e169 doesn't connect + Globetrotter 3G+ card not recognized anymore)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34683516:09
asacblogdudel: there are two .rules files i asked to test16:09
asacplease test both16:09
asacthanks16:09
gnomefreakits really hard to follow the blogs if you dont follow everyone in it16:09
BUGabundognomefreak: no errors here!16:09
BUGabundoeheh16:09
blogdudelok i do16:10
BUGabundothen you end up like me with 300 RSS16:10
gnomefreakafter refresh none here now16:10
BUGabundoeehe16:11
BUGabundoI'm there16:11
BUGabundoI even sent you a dent16:11
gnomefreakhow the hell do you send? enter doesnt work and well i only see cancel ill find it sooner or later16:11
BUGabundoahh16:12
gnomefreakit froze it seems16:12
BUGabundowait you are jamed16:12
BUGabundopress Esc16:12
BUGabundoto leave the field16:12
BUGabundoit freezes a lot16:12
BUGabundo:(16:12
gnomefreakah there we go its sent16:12
BUGabundowith compiz its easy to see16:12
BUGabundowith metacity look at the corner16:12
gnomefreaktook awhile though16:12
BUGabundoif the buble is not running then its frozen16:12
BUGabundogot your now16:12
gnomefreaki cant run compiz on this system since my mem is low and its a building system16:13
BUGabundoehe16:13
BUGabundothen watch the circle bubbles16:13
gnomefreakyay the package is going to upload :)16:14
gnomefreakthe bubble kept spinning but just stopped. I think fta2 needs to change servers16:14
ftaI can't, i left xchat open at work, and i'm at home (sick)16:22
gnomefreakfta: ah16:23
blogdudel@asac 3g fail i try both files but nothing work what now ?16:24
* gnomefreak needs to think of a fix for my problem :( ill be back16:26
asacblogdudel: what did you try?16:30
asacblogdudel: you need to replace the file ... then reboot16:30
asacblogdudel: at least they should make your modems get detected16:30
blogdudelreplace th m77 file16:32
blogdudelrebbot yes nothin happends no modem16:32
* BUGabundo thinks asac is going to start confusing subjects16:33
blogdudel;)16:34
gnomefreakam i here?16:36
gnomefreakdamnit power surge i think16:37
asacblogdudel: please post your complete syslog ... right after you plugged in your 3g modem16:37
gnomefreakok i see comments so maybe its a LP issue16:38
BUGabundognomefreak: yes you are16:38
gnomefreakBUGabundo: thanks16:38
gnomefreakah good lp works again16:38
blogdudelsyslog how can i do that .. please what command16:44
blogdudelwhere to find the syslog where is he ?16:46
blogdudelups sory i found ;)16:46
blogdudelhow can i send the file syslog ?16:53
asacblogdudel: not sure. open a bug16:55
asacattach it there16:55
asacalso tell which .rules file you used for that syslog16:55
asacthanks16:55
blogdudelsorry attach here copy the the file ? i using pidigin and i can not atach but copy and paste :)17:18
blogdudelMar 26 17:20:58 MBE1210A syslogd 1.5.0#5ubuntu3: restart.17:23
blogdudelMar 26 17:20:58 MBE1210A kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.6.28-11-generic17:23
blogdudelMar 26 17:20:58 MBE1210A kernel: Cannot find map file.17:23
blogdudelMar 26 17:20:58 MBE1210A kernel: Loaded 54082 symbols from 42 modules.17:23
blogdudelMar 26 17:20:58 MBE1210A kernel: [    0.000000] BIOS EBDA/lowmem at: 0009ec00/0009ec0017:23
blogdudelMar 26 17:20:58 MBE1210A kernel: [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset17:23
ftablogdudel, no, use a pastebin service  such as http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and give us the url17:25
blogdudelähm sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/138410/ :)17:29
ftaMar 26 17:26:28 MBE1210A NetworkManager: <info>  (ttyUSB0): found serial port (udev:  hal:GSM)17:31
ftaare you sure you changed the 77-* rules file?17:31
ftayou should see "(udev:GSM  hal:GSM)"17:32
ftaalso enable debug for n-m: you can do that easily by creating a file called /etc/default/NetworkManager containing "export NM_SERIAL_DEBUG=1". then you need to reboot (or restart n-m)17:35
asacheh ... fta helping on NM - hilarious!17:46
BUGabundoeheh17:47
BUGabundoI'm just tired of trying to follow your debuging17:47
BUGabundocan't imagine how you guys are feeling17:47
asacits a mess17:48
ftaasac, you should provide a default  /etc/default/NetworkManager17:49
ftafta@nano:~ $ cat /etc/default/NetworkManager17:50
fta# fta17:50
fta#export NM_ACTIVE_AP_DEBUG=117:50
ftaexport NM_SERIAL_DEBUG=117:50
ftaexport NM_PPP_DEBUG=117:50
ftawith nice comments, all disabled of course17:50
asachmm17:50
asacgood suggestion17:50
asaclets see if someone managed to get the .rules working in the MASTER bug17:51
asacnobody tried :(17:51
asacthats always the same17:51
ftai did :)17:51
asacyeah17:51
asacand it worked for you17:51
asacbut bug 34683517:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 346835 in network-manager "MASTER - modems not detected - udev prober broken (Was: Huawei e169 doesn't connect + Globetrotter 3G+ card not recognized anymore)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34683517:51
asacits always the same: you ask them to test the proper and they answer: "modem doesnt work"17:52
asac;)17:52
asacfta: oh we have a new rules btw17:52
asacthe ../ was consider fragile17:52
asacby udev upstream17:52
asachttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/346835/comments/1117:52
ubottuUbuntu bug 346835 in network-manager "MASTER - modems not detected - udev prober broken (Was: Huawei e169 doesn't connect + Globetrotter 3G+ card not recognized anymore)" [Critical,In progress]17:52
asac"No luck. It stays unchanged."17:53
asac"Sorry, sorry, sorry. Good news and bad news."17:53
asac;)17:53
ftathat's what i meant yesterday by "you should pass that throuhg env{}"17:54
ftathrough17:54
asacyes17:54
asaci had that idea from the beginning17:54
asacbut well. my udev rules fu was close to zeor17:54
ftawant me to test that?17:54
BUGabundobye guys17:54
BUGabundogym17:54
asacbut given that either keybuk and the udev upstream thought our way should work ;) ...17:55
ftayou should jsut push that to the ppa, you'll get testers that way ;)17:55
asacfta: i will push that right to the archive17:55
asactonight is beta out i hope17:55
ftaoh17:55
asacits interesting that nobody from the QA found that we have a critical MASTER bug that breaks all 3G, but well :)17:56
asaclets assume they thought its not critical enough to hold the beta17:56
asacfta: if you can test the .rules that owuld be great17:57
asaci have the feelig that the master bug will not lead us anywhere17:57
asaci guess the folks in there still think the bug is about "modem should work in general, everywhere with any device"17:58
asacits always the same17:58
asac*sigh*17:58
asac"This issue has got a bit confusing... I'll try to decipher it. The main issue of the bug report is that the wireless broadband just doesn't work, I'm experiencing the same problem as Lanzen."17:58
asac"Lanzen said that the 77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules file from Intrepid fixes the problem, the one posted above my Alexander doesn't."17:58
asacouch17:58
ftaMar 26 18:58:10 nano NetworkManager: <info>  (ttyUSB0): found serial port (udev:GSM  hal:GSM)17:58
asacthere was no such file in intrepid17:58
asacfta: great. thanks17:58
asacfta: do you know if your modem stuff got worse during jaunty?17:59
asaci mean, maybe its really the probing itself that causes your instability17:59
ftano idea, i just started to use 3G in ubuntu in january17:59
asacand this: "Alexander, the syslog you requested (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/346835/comments/15) is the one here ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/346835/comments/4 ) - I'm receiving identical messages in mine, but I can't post it because my laptop battery just died.17:59
ubottuUbuntu bug 346835 in network-manager "MASTER - modems not detected - udev prober broken (Was: Huawei e169 doesn't connect + Globetrotter 3G+ card not recognized anymore)" [Critical,In progress]17:59
asac"17:59
asacits always the same: "mine is "identical", but sorry i cant post18:00
asacfta: yes. but didnt it work well in the beginning?18:00
asaclet me check when this prober stuff first appeared18:00
asachmm ... in march18:00
asacso ok18:00
ftaon my dell laptop, it worked well with my 2 SIMs, then broke on 1, then the other, now both18:01
ftawith my netbook, nothing ever worked, except 1 attempt yesterday eve18:02
ftaFIREFOX_3_0_8_BUILD218:05
asacyeah18:05
asacthats hopefully it18:05
asaci will push that as final tomorrow morning to security area18:05
blogdudelby18:11
ftaasac, what are my options right now for my 3G?18:13
ftai mean, remaining options18:13
asacfta: you can try doing it manually using wvdial18:13
ftai tried that yesterday18:13
asacsame?18:13
asacsame same but different most likely ;)18:14
ftawell, not sure. i had to write the init strings18:14
ftawith n-m down, it does work as there's no /dev/ttyUSB*18:15
asacit does work?18:15
ftalol18:16
ftano, doesn't18:16
ftasorry18:16
asac/dev/ttyUSB0 should be available even without NM18:16
asacanyway18:16
asaci really really think its on ppp level18:16
ftait's not there18:16
NafalloI have it when I plug in my serial/usb converter :-D18:17
asacproblem is that our kernel seems to not have ppp debugging on18:17
asacthats a bit of a problem18:17
directhexis a hyperintelligent sexpot like asac or fta about?18:56
ftaasac, http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/f2ddee7e109635a820:12
ftaasac, \o/20:35
gnomefreaksomeone care to tell me why bzr-builddeb lets patches pass and dpkg-buildpackage makes patches fail? same branch same source hardy doesnt have bzr-builddeb so it fails on fsh patch and intrepid jaunty using bzr pass21:15
gnomefreakthere has to be a handling error somewhere but why and how21:15
gnomefreaki built binaries here for intrepid and jaunty figured why do hardy if they passed well it failed on PPA due to fsh patch and personally im extreamly pissed off about it21:16
ftaasac, just tried your new 77-* in my dell laptop, not so good :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/138548/21:32
ftaMar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: IMPORT 'nm-modem-probe --vid 0x12d1 --pid 0x1003 --usb-interface 01 --driver option --delay 3000 --export /dev/.tmp-char-188:1' /lib/udev/rules.d/77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules:1121:32
ftaMar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: 'nm-modem-probe --vid 0x12d1 --pid 0x1003 --usb-interface 01 --driver option --delay 3000 --export /dev/.tmp-char-188:1'21:32
ftaMar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe' (stderr) '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe: unrecognized option '--vid''21:32
ftaMar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe' returned with status 121:32
BUGabundoasac: is the font fully reverted?21:32
BUGabundomy fonts look smaller after reboot21:32
BUGabundocan I use Apperance again?21:32
* gnomefreak gonna set this dell on fire if i dont figure out WTF the problem is. im talking with bzr about it but there should be no reason why it works out this way21:33
gnomefreakok someone needs to tell me why dpkg-buildpackage is failing the build due to a patch but bzr bd is not failing21:38
ftaasac, oh, nm, not the same n-m. 0ubuntu1 vs 0ubuntu1.nm121:39
gnomefreakthey dont know why in #bzr21:39
ftagnomefreak, would help if you pasted what you are doing so we can have a look21:39
gnomefreakfta: built sunbird 0.9 for intrepid and jaunty localy binaries and they built fine with bzr-bd i figured no need to build bins for hardy and using dpkg-buildpage fails the build on the fsh patch21:40
gnomefreakfta: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24369029/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.lightning-sunbird_0.9%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu3~8.04~jjv1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz  <<failure21:41
gnomefreakhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/+archive/ppa  the other 2 passed only difference is the command i used21:42
gnomefreakasd since dpkg-buildpackage is in bzr-bd it shouldnt do anything different from what i would think21:42
ftathe difference is the merge21:42
gnomefreak?21:42
gnomefreaksame branch21:43
gnomefreakoh you mean bzr merge21:43
ftai assume that by bzr-bd, you mean bzr bd --merge21:43
gnomefreakfta: yep21:43
gnomefreakim guessing i cant use debuild or dpkg-bui.... with a berge switch21:44
gnomefreaks/berge/merge21:44
ftawell, do you still have the logs from where you used dpkg-buidlpackage?21:44
gnomefreakfta: you mean the source dir?21:44
ftano, neither has a --merge switch, only bd has one21:44
gnomefreakso i guess im backporting bzr to hardy too :( i ironic can it get21:45
fta?? no need to do that21:45
ftawhy didn't you use bzr-bd also for hardy?21:46
gnomefreakfta: it doesnt exist or if it does bd is not found21:47
ftai mean, no need to be on hardy to create the source package for hardy, assuming you have everything in the same branch21:47
gnomefreakfta: i use a chroot and yes i thought i did21:47
ftato build, yes, but not to create a source package to send to the builders21:48
gnomefreakfta: sounds good so far21:48
gnomefreaknext how?21:48
gnomefreakjust spin the source normally with the hardy target in it?21:49
gnomefreakit cant be that easy21:49
ftaso just go to your branch in a jaunty chroot (or intrepid), edit d/changelog to add a ~somthing to the version and change the dist to hardy, no need to commit, bzr bd --merge that and dput the result21:50
gnomefreakyou mean the full bzr bd command right?21:51
fta(of course, by bzr bd --merge that, i meant the full command, such as bzr bd --merge  --build-dir=../ppa --orig-dir=../tarballs/ --builder='dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa -kxxxxxx' or whatever you used on jaunty)21:52
ftashould even be -sd instead of -sa as the tarball is already in your ppa21:53
gnomefreakok lets try it. this works i really really need to remember this21:53
gnomefreakthat would cut down onupload times too :(21:54
gnomefreakok makeing notes21:54
gnomefreakok pushing lets see how this goes. thanks fta i took notes :)21:57
gnomefreakholy crap thats fast21:58
fta:)21:59
gnomefreak!info flashplugin-nonfree hardy-backports22:07
ubottuflashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1~hardy1+really9.0.124.0ubuntu2 (hardy-backports), package size 18 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)22:07
gnomefreaknope still thats why damnit22:08
gnomefreakBUGabundo: right i think atleast my tb3 fonts shrank now i can barely see them. they do not fit in with the rest of desktop :( i guess ill work it out tomorrow22:18
BUGabundoyep!22:19
BUGabundobut it still shows 13.333 and 112 dpis22:19
BUGabundo:\\\22:19
gnomefreakeven if it builds im going to have to fix that patch in SM2 :(22:24
gnomefreakBUGabundo: only tb3 is different that started a day or 2 ago it got really figging small22:25
* BUGabundo wonders why gnomefreak is talking to me about tb22:26
gnomefreak96 << dpsi22:26
BUGabundoahh fonts22:26
BUGabundoLOL22:26
gnomefreakthat is why DE is so small in fots22:26
gnomefreak107 looks like a winner22:27
gnomefreakthink i fixed fonts22:30
gnomefreaki guess i have to figure out the easiest way to set up sunbird again22:31
gnomefreakit worked 64bit passed :)22:38
fta\o/22:44
gnomefreakthe fsh series patches are not the same right?22:45
ftawhy wouldn't they be the same? you have only one branch right?22:47
gnomefreakfta: i mean between packages22:50
gnomefreakSM2 fails on fsh patch but autoconf patch passes so i have to assume autoconf2.13 wont fix it and i cant get the mozilla dir to include a patches dir22:51
gnomefreakthats my project to end the week i think22:52
gnomefreakthats mean no .rej file to go on22:53
ftathen you have more than 1 branch so you need to make it work in the right chroot, commit to a dist branch, then you can do as before from any dist and the dist branch22:54
gnomefreakfta: in SM2 it fails no matter how i run it. fails on jaunty intrepid and hardy22:54
gnomefreakiIRC its hunk1 that fails22:55
ftathen either you are doing something wrong, or the patch needs to be updated22:55
gnomefreakmay need updating but as i said i cant get the --no-purge switch to leave upstreamm ozila/mozilla/patches there22:56
ftait's --dont-purge22:57
gnomefreakyeah that22:57
gnomefreakbzr bd --merge --dont-purge --builder=22:58
ftashould work22:58
gnomefreakim gonna try with latest tarball again maybe it was them. no matter if i stopped it or if it failed it didnt leave a patches dir i had mozilla/mozilla22:58
gnomefreaki gonna grab tarball and run the build maybe it will not fail. i can dream cant i22:59
gnomefreakok what else can i do while i wait for everything23:14
gnomefreakfta: all sunbird builds worked thanks23:14
BUGabundobah webcam stop working23:14
BUGabundodamn flash23:14
* gnomefreak is in a backlog anyway sooner or later im gonna get stuck until things get moving along23:16
FreeAtMindboas23:17
BUGabundoguys is asac around ?23:17
BUGabundoon more guy with 3G probs23:17
BUGabundoFreeAtMind: what version is your 3G modem?23:17
FreeAtMindall most of time...23:18
FreeAtMindis a hawei e22023:18
FreeAtMind*huawei e22023:18
BUGabundoah the same as mine...23:18
FreeAtMindis black... LOL i dont tink is important the color23:18
FreeAtMind;)23:18
BUGabundofta do you know if there is already an open bug for this model?23:18
ftamine is a e160, recognized as a a22023:18
ftawhat is the problem?23:19
gnomefreakBUGabundo: i dont think he is. fta tried pinging him earlier i didnt see him say anything23:19
FreeAtMindbut i can connet regulary with wvdial23:19
BUGabundoya thought so23:20
FreeAtMindall most of time afther 3 or 4 unplugs of modem23:20
BUGabundomine only works with older version of NM packages23:20
FreeAtMindin intrepid mine works great23:20
BUGabundoyeah... it worked more or lessu23:21
BUGabundountil 2 weeks ago23:21
BUGabundothen it stoped23:21
FreeAtMindi use other pc with that is is works like a charm23:21
BUGabundobah we need asac to debug in real time!23:21
BUGabundofta: what pacths did asac gave you ?23:22
BUGabundoare they on the ppa?23:22
ftawhat is the symptom with n-m? not recognized at all?23:22
BUGabundoFreeAtMind: ^^^23:22
FreeAtMindthey are something to install first for debug??23:22
FreeAtMindon NM is recognizes23:23
BUGabundohttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/DebuggingNetworkManager23:23
FreeAtMindand they appear 2 times23:23
BUGabundoreally? mine only showed once23:23
=== asac_ is now known as asac
FreeAtMindi can send a printscreen23:24
BUGabundobut took me MANY attempts to see it23:24
BUGabundono need23:24
ftadepends on which n-m you are using23:24
BUGabundolshal is much better23:24
ftaplain jaunty or the n-m ppa ?23:24
BUGabundoPPA is older23:24
BUGabundolol23:24
ftano23:24
BUGabundooh23:25
BUGabundoasac bump it23:25
FreeAtMindim only using the official mirror and medibuntu23:25
BUGabundo0.7.1~rc3.1.git4cf2da146-0ubuntu1.nm123:25
FreeAtMindnone ppa23:25
fta_nanonetwork-manager | 0.7.1~rc3.1.git4cf2da146-0ubuntu1.nm1 | http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main Packages23:25
fta_nanonetwork-manager | 0.7.1~rc3.1.git4cf2da146-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages23:25
BUGabundoI saw23:25
BUGabundodidn't notice the update23:25
BUGabundoguess I'm late on change logs23:25
ftaso with 0.7.1~rc3.1.git4cf2da146-0ubuntu1.nm1 and https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/346835/comments/11, it works for me23:26
ubottuUbuntu bug 346835 in network-manager "MASTER - modems not detected - udev prober broken (Was: Huawei e169 doesn't connect + Globetrotter 3G+ card not recognized anymore)" [Critical,In progress]23:26
BUGabundoFreeAtMind: can you install the ppa version23:26
BUGabundoand reboot to test?23:26
ftaasac will push that to jaunty tomorrow23:26
FreeAtMindok23:27
BUGabundohttps://launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/ppa23:27
FreeAtMindi will do that23:27
BUGabundoadd "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main" to your sources23:27
FreeAtMindhappy to test that package23:27
BUGabundoand update (even via update manager23:27
FreeAtMind;)23:27
FreeAtMindcya23:27
BUGabundothat was fast23:28
BUGabundoLOL23:28
gnomefreakfta: what is this about? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/63674123:28
ftagnomefreak, it's not able to find your tarball23:29
gnomefreakk23:29
ftain jaunty, the default loc is no longer ../tarballs23:29
ftait's ..23:29
ftaso you can add --orig-dir=../tarballs/ to have it back to where it was before23:30
ftaor just move your tarballs23:30
gnomefreakoh23:34
BUGabundohave to go23:35
BUGabundolet me know how the 3G goes for that guy23:35
asac  ok updated the ppa nm package to contina the modem rules23:36
ftagreat23:38
ftaasac, i made one of my sim work in my netbook \o/23:38
asacfta: how?23:39
asacfta: plesae present your findings ;)23:40
ftai booted in xp, connected it, looked at all the parameters, noticed it was using pap and not chap, no compression, but ip headers compression, *99# was right, no user/password at all, no flow control, and a max speed of 460800 (no mtu)23:41
ftaso i booted back to ubuntu, changed the parameters accordingly in the nm-applet, and \o/23:41
asacfta: so it was "pap" ?23:43
ftabasically, i unchecked almost everything in the profile23:43
ftamost probably23:43
asachmm23:44
asachave you checked that the sim still didnt work after windows boot?23:44
asacor maybe you just cured it with windows again?23:44
ftaunless something magic appeared while i was using xp23:44
ftai tried the 2nd sim with that profile, i doesn't work23:45
ftait23:45
ftabut it doesn't work in xp either23:45
ftai will try it in my laptop at work tomorrow, where it's supposed to be used23:45
asacif its really pap23:47
asacit sounds like a provider issue23:47
asaci mean, the negotiation should work and you even were able to get CHAP AUTHENTICATED23:48
asacthe comment in the ppp auth methods dialog is really funny23:48
asacatlesat that comment should be on the main PPP tab in conn editor23:49
gnomefreakcleaner_dist_clean.patch is mine for tomorrow ;) night23:49
FreeAtMindhello again23:51
ftadid it work?23:52
FreeAtMindi have upgraded the network manager23:52
FreeAtMindi dont  work23:52
FreeAtMindnone device is detect23:52
FreeAtMindin NM23:52
FreeAtMindbut im connected now with wvdial23:53
ftadid you change the 77-* file as indicated in the bug i pasted?23:53
FreeAtMindsorry no23:53
FreeAtMindsend me again23:53
ftahttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/346835/comments/1123:53
ubottuUbuntu bug 346835 in network-manager "MASTER - modems not detected - udev prober broken (Was: Huawei e169 doesn't connect + Globetrotter 3G+ card not recognized anymore)" [Critical,In progress]23:53
ftaor wait for the next build of n-m, asac just updated the n-m ppa to include that new file23:54
FreeAtMindfta i use some times your ppa23:54
FreeAtMind:)23:54
ftagreat23:54
FreeAtMindsorry for my english :(23:54
FreeAtMindis poor and bad at same time23:55
ftano problem23:55
FreeAtMindi understand very well english but dont speak weel23:56
FreeAtMind*well23:56
FreeAtMindi go see that bug link23:56
ftayou just need to practice then23:56
FreeAtMindthat like told that replace the file23:57
FreeAtMindbut is needed some special permission?23:57
FreeAtMindor just replace that23:58
ftayou need to do that as root23:58
FreeAtMindok23:58
FreeAtMindi do that23:58
FreeAtMindrestart needed?23:59

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