[00:03] <LjL> ah
[00:05] <stdin> !info bash
[00:07] <stdin> !info bash
[00:08] <genii> I guess bash isn't an installable package then?
[00:08] <stdin> @reload PackageInfo
[00:08] <stdin> !info bash
[00:08] <genii> Ah, nvm
[00:08] <stdin> !info bash | stdin
[00:08] <stdin> ooh
[00:08] <LjL> !yay | stdin
[00:09] <stdin> !info bash > stdin
[00:09] <stdin> no "please see my private message" yet, but better than nothing
[00:09]  * genii hands stdin a coffee in a special mug stencilled "Stdin...Supybot master!"
[00:09] <LjL> i hate that see my pm thing anyway :P
[00:10] <stdin> if I don't put it there, I get moaned at. if I do, I get moaned at.
[00:11] <LjL> stdin: yeah, that's what happens when you write bots
[00:11] <stdin> the morel is, stop moaning to stdin ;)
[00:11] <stdin> I didn't even write the bloody thing :p
[00:11] <LjL> stdin: i'm content enough that you removed it for me when i use my own parenthesized remark anyway
[00:12] <stdin> I'll probably get the rest of it working same as Encyclopedia in the morning
[00:14] <stdin> but "!info thing > someone (Please see message from the bot)" is rare too see
[00:14] <stdin> @reload PackageInfo
[00:14] <stdin> !info bash > stdin
[00:15] <stdin> !info bash | stdin2
[00:15] <stdin> good, disabled dome debugging code and it still works :)
[00:16] <LjL> stdin: eh, it's rare to see because everyone who was using it stopped...
[00:17] <stdin> I mean "!info package | nick" is much more common
[01:30] <LjL> [02:29:56] <dave-ubuntu> ok dumbass ill just change my proxy
[02:59] <LjL> uhm
[02:59] <LjL> !iphone
[02:59] <LjL> !ipod
[03:00] <LjL> yeah, worth doing
[03:00] <LjL> !iphone is <reply> For help on how to sync an iPhone or iPod-Touch with Ubuntu see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[03:00] <LjL> !ipod touch is <alias> iphone
[03:00] <LjL> !ipod-touch is <alias> iphone
[03:00] <LjL> !ipodtouch is <alias> iphone
[03:01] <Flannel> Wouldn't it be better to have them both in the same factoid?
[03:01] <Flannel> ipod and *touch are likely interchangable
[03:01] <LjL> well, classic ipod is quite different afaik
[03:01] <Flannel> Then again, maybe if you own one you know better than to ever call your touch an ipod or something
[03:02] <Flannel> right, but including both in a singl factoid may be worthwhile?
[03:02] <LjL> Flannel: for that matter, the link in !ipod also links to the link in !iphone
[03:02] <Flannel> Maybe not.  I don't drink that kool-aid, so I obviously am not the one to ask.
[03:03] <Flannel> Hi dracie, how can we help you today?
[03:03] <dracie> hey this shell server is blocked on #ubuntu-offtopic, can it get unbanned?
[03:03] <LjL> !no ipod is <reply> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:03] <LjL> !no iphone is <alias> ipod
[03:03] <LjL> dracie: a moment please
[03:03] <dracie> thanks
[03:03] <LjL> dracie: yes, i can unban it
[03:04] <LjL> err... it's not banned to begin with?!
[03:04] <Flannel> LjL: *!*@server1.bshellz.net
[03:04] <LjL> not in my banlist for #ubuntu
[03:04] <Flannel> LjL: -offtopic
[03:04] <dracie> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:05] <LjL> ah
[03:05] <dracie> idk its stupid when people decide to ban shell servers and online irc clients
[03:05] <dracie> hehe
[03:05] <dracie> everyone loses
[03:05] <LjL> it's not stupid
[03:05] <LjL> sometimes we just have to do it
[03:05] <LjL> but bshellz uses identd
[03:05] <dracie> yeah
[03:05] <LjL> so no reason to keep it banned
[03:06] <dracie> yeah I have yet to read about that stuff
[03:06] <LjL> dracie: it's unbanned
[03:06] <dracie> thanks
[03:06] <dracie> =]
[03:06] <dracie> cheers see u on there
[03:26] <Flannel> tritium: What'd he do?
[03:26] <tritium> Flannel: nothing.  It was the nick.
[03:27] <Flannel> tritium: Erm... He's been a semi-active community member for some time now (and on all previous occassions, we haven't said anything, we've always taken the live/let live approach, with a "only if he's a nuisance" sort of thing).
[03:28] <tritium> hmm
[03:28] <tritium> Seems inconsistent.
[03:30] <tritium> We ask to keep discussion family-friendly, and forbid discussion of illegal activity.
[03:30]  * nalioth gathers dust
[03:30] <tritium> Hi, nalioth.
[03:31] <nalioth> *cough*
[03:31] <nalioth> hi  :)
[03:33] <Flannel> tritium: It's not abusive, he's not trouble... and for all we know, he's talking about pottery and kilns.
[03:34] <Flannel> If you go out looking to be offended, you can certainly succeed.  And if he were a trouble maker, I'd come down hard on him for his nick as well.  But he's never caused problems as far as I'm aware
[03:34] <tritium> I didn't say it was abusive.  Just not family-friendly, and indicative of illegal activitiy.
[03:34] <tritium> activity*
[03:35] <tritium> But if you wish to remove it, do as you wish.
[03:36] <Flannel> I think it sets bad precidence... there's probably a dozen people we could ban re: nicks like that, depending on how you care to define things.
[03:38] <Flannel> precedent, even.
[03:38] <Flannel> but, I'll let someone else make that call.
[03:38] <tritium> To allow it seems inconsistent, for the reasons given above.  I guess we just care about discussion being family-friendly and not illegal.  Nicks, I suppose, we don't care about in that way.
[03:38] <tritium> Strange, but meh.
[03:40] <Flannel> Nah, I'm all for nicks being appropriate as well.  But as I previously said, we have no idea if he's a potter.  And I think a false positive in this case is worse than a false negative.
[03:41] <tritium> OK.
[03:42] <Flannel> but, now that I've explained, I run off to eat food.  And let someone else make a call, or pocket veto or whatnot.
[03:42] <tritium> Enjoy.
[06:43] <Flannel> LjL: watchbots being stupid.
[11:24] <ikonia> Myrtti: you're guide is pretty solid ! thank you
[11:24] <Myrtti> I added one thing to it today
[11:24] <Myrtti> just few minutes ago
[11:24] <Myrtti> forgot to add one screenshot
[11:25] <ikonia> Myrtti: it gave me some interesting snippets of information for my own issues too, which although good has raised more questions than answers
[11:57] <gnomefreak> what factoid is ot4ot
[11:58] <Pici> Not ot5ot
[11:58] <Myrtti> !ot4ot
[11:58] <Myrtti> !-ot4ot
[12:00] <Pici> gnomefreak: I'll leave it to you, gonna go grab some breakfast
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Pici: nothing to leave hes banned
[12:24] <ikonia> milks been done a few times as I recall
[12:24] <bazhang> in #ubuntu now
[13:16] <sparky_> Hey, it says i've been banned from the #ubuntu chatroom and I have no clue why!  I havn't been on in almost a week and i'm not one to cause trouble.  so how do I get unbanned?  are you banned by ip or username?
[13:17] <Myrtti> please standby, checking
[13:17] <Myrtti> it's my ban for sure
[13:17] <sparky_> it's your ban?
[13:18] <Myrtti> I put it in place
[13:18] <sparky_> oh ok, i see
[13:18] <Myrtti> that is.
[13:19] <Myrtti> ok, you seem to be the innocent bystander by the name
[13:20] <sparky_> ok, is there any way to prevent this in the future?  like stay logged on 24/7.
[13:20] <Myrtti> well let me explain what has happened
[13:21] <Myrtti> someone used nicknames TheSpark and sparky_ to perform a malicious attack against users of #ubuntu
[13:22] <sparky_> oh... definitly not me,  i'm a noob, but i understand 
[13:22] <Myrtti> the latter seems to be registered to you though
[13:23] <Myrtti> but I'm going to remove the bans
[13:23] <sparky_> thank you and i hope they don't do it again
[13:23] <Myrtti> you should be able to join in now
[13:24] <sparky_> yep, and thx again for the help/info
[13:25] <Myrtti> no probs
[13:25] <sparky_> later, and have a good day
[13:25] <Myrtti> tata :-)
[13:46]  * genii sips
[14:09] <RichiH> fyi, miik is very trollish so if he makes any more problems, it's prolly not worth keeping him
[14:10] <Pici> Indeed
[14:52] <LjL> Pici`: you couldn't resist huh
[14:52] <LjL> go work
[14:52] <Pici`> LjL: I was getting lagged out anyway.
[14:52] <LjL> Pici`: ah you were on niven?
[14:52] <Pici`> LjL: Indeed.
[14:53] <LjL> yeah niven died
[14:59] <LjL> niven and zelazny have been killed it would seem
[15:00] <LjL> there's still hubbard up and split
[15:00] <LjL> with a hundred or so users on #ubuntu
[15:14] <ikonia> cristi ban dodging again 
[15:14] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu Cristiniuc cristi still ban dodging - changed ident
[15:14] <Pici> ikonia: With what nick?
[15:14] <Myrtti> where
[15:14] <ikonia> #ubuntu
[15:14] <ikonia> she's left
[15:14] <Myrtti> oh, so I see
[15:15] <ikonia> and again as Flexomad
[15:15] <ikonia> it's learnt to change ident
[15:17] <genii> UboTwo seems itinerant
[15:17] <ikonia> any suggestions on what to do with cristi constantly ban dodging
[15:17] <LjL> genii: i had moved it to hubbard to provide them with a bot
[15:17] <LjL> ikonia: keep kicking? :)
[15:17] <ikonia> didn't want it to get too disruptive
[15:18] <ikonia> left it on mute so it doesn't make noise getting kicked
[15:18] <ikonia> not sure if thats the best thing
[15:18] <LjL> ikonia: set +z too
[15:18] <LjL> ikonia: so she thinks she can talk :P
[15:18] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[15:18] <ikonia> naughty
[15:19] <ikonia> it's in pm with me hopefully she can just talk to my session and ignore the rest of the channel
[15:44] <LjL> not again...
[15:53] <Pici> LjL: Are you sure thats a good idea to add that as a factoid?
[15:53] <Pici> The kernel patches are on their way in now.
[15:54] <LjL> Pici: i don't know, i don't know anything about jaunty.
[16:03] <LjL> freenode--
[16:05]  * genii kicks kubrick
[16:14] <ikonia> freenode is really having a hard day 
[16:14] <genii> Gah
[16:15] <LjL> i'm getting a headache
[16:15] <LjL> if only konversation didn't crawl to a halt on splits...
[16:15]  * genii hands LjL the Advils
[16:24] <Pici> LjL: Now if we could get people to actually read the topic...
[16:25] <LjL> Pici: well, that's their problem
[16:25] <LjL> Pici: anyway, you can be sure i won't deop myself again from hubbard...
[16:25] <Pici> ikonia: pm :)
[16:25] <LjL> not today anyway
[16:26] <ikonia> Pici: sure sure sure
[16:35]  * Myrtti kicks the servers
[16:35]  * LjL rolls eyes at #fn
[16:36]  * genii kicks the servers again for good measure
[16:38] <ikonia> Pici: ;)
[16:39] <LjL> ok so now hubbard can see what the other servers type
[16:39] <LjL> but not vice versa
[16:39] <LjL> and there's probably a couple of servers who are in a yet different situation
[16:47] <genii> Man, this is nuts today
[16:47] <LjL> DISCONNECT HUBBARD for goodness sake
[17:01] <Pici> ikonia: I spoke to kimi in pm, hopefully he gets the point now.
[17:02] <Pici> ikonia: If you see pms from him, they're probably from earlier.
[17:03] <LjL> Pici: freenode - the time machine
[17:06] <Pici> Silly easily excited people.
[17:08] <Myrtti> kinda ... intresting
[17:13] <LjL> has any of the servers you're on overridden the normal #ubuntu topic?
[17:20] <Pici> ugh
[17:24]  * genii hands out more of the Advils
[18:33] <Pici> topyli: What do you think about __mikem.  I'm not sure if I'm just annoyed by him or if this feeling is me wanting to ban him for constantly inciting this type of thing.
[18:34] <topyli> Pici: he's the ultimate annoyance
[18:34] <genii> My feeling is most ppl are always sort of annoyed by him
[18:34] <topyli> then again, he doesn't do much that's very wrong
[19:19] <Tm_T> Pici: ah, better one
[19:19] <Pici> Tm_T: :)
[19:19] <Tm_T> I'm too old to be able to follow you young lads
[19:20]  * genii waves his cane at the young uns
[19:20] <Pici> Get off my lawn!
[19:20] <genii> Hehe, exactly
[19:40]  * genii brews a fresh pot of coffee before /away
[21:55] <LjL> dangerous commands commonly posted by idiots aside from rm -rf and the bash forkbomb?
[22:01] <eseven73> you guys see Kavity's host?
[22:05] <LjL> hit and run huh
[22:05] <LjL> perhaps we're stressing a bit too much on the "no idling" policy? :P
[22:07] <LjL> anyway, /me isn't going to bitch over hostnames
[23:06]  * genii sips