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| ara | good morning all! | 07:09 |
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| ara | morning davmor2 | 08:36 |
| davmor2 | Good Morning ara | 08:36 |
| ara | is anyone doing the upgrade of edubuntu i386? | 08:44 |
| * ara assumes nobody is | 08:46 | |
| * ara takes the edubuntu upgrade test | 08:47 | |
| ara | to be or not to be | 08:48 |
| davmor2 | no edubuntu amd64bit upgrade :( | 08:56 |
| davmor2 | I'll do one then if someone can put it on we're covered | 08:58 |
| * ara steps out to grab a coffee | 08:58 | |
| * davmor2 still thinks ara has a coffee shop next door | 09:04 | |
| davmor2 | Morning heno | 09:37 |
| heno | hey davmor2 | 09:39 |
| heno | so we need a RAID test and edubuntu upgrade | 09:41 |
| davmor2 | heno: ara is doing 32bit I'm doing 64bit which got removed by accident we think | 09:49 |
| ara | heno: I am doing the edubuntu upgrade | 09:49 |
| davmor2 | Then I'm tagging it onto the 32bit with a note which slangasek oked | 09:50 |
| heno | ara: great, thanks | 09:50 |
| davmor2 | heno: can't help you out with raid server team maybe? | 09:50 |
| heno | I did 64 bit edubuntu upgrade yesterday | 09:50 |
| heno | pinging the server team now | 09:51 |
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| heno | soren is on it | 09:52 |
| === davmor3 is now known as davmor2 | ||
| davmor2 | so that's everything covered then? | 09:53 |
| heno | it is | 09:55 |
| heno | we should dig a bit deeper on some of these perhaps though | 09:55 |
| heno | we've covered existing home, what about driver CD install? | 09:56 |
| mtholdenss | any testing i can do on my new macbook? | 10:20 |
| ara | hello mtholdenss | 10:21 |
| mtholdenss | hey | 10:21 |
| ara | mtholdenss: you could try to install jaunty on it and run System Testing (under System->Administration) | 10:21 |
| ara | mtholdenss: it is a good way to provide a hardware database in Launchpad | 10:22 |
| mtholdenss | thanks i might do it when the beta comes out tonight | 10:22 |
| ara | mtholdenss: sure, thanks! | 10:22 |
| mtholdenss | its the 26th of march here in australia night time, i guess it must have some delay | 10:23 |
| heno | just tested the accessibility boot options - they seem to work | 10:35 |
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| === bolt_ is now known as davmor2 | ||
| ara | heno: I didn't know there were accessibility boot options :) | 11:54 |
| davmor2 | Morning fader | 11:59 |
| fader | davmor2: howdy! | 11:59 |
| ara | edubuntu i386 upgrade passed | 12:06 |
| davmor2 | Yay full sweep | 12:06 |
| * ara -> lunch | 12:39 | |
| davmor2 | cgregan: Morning Dude hope it's nicer over there than here :) | 12:54 |
| cgregan | morning davmor2......4C and sunny | 12:55 |
| cgregan | I don't know if that constitutes better. | 12:56 |
| davmor2 | cgregan: feels like 6.3 and raining | 12:56 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: hello | 12:56 |
| xivulon | hi davmor2 | 12:57 |
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| davmor2 | xivulon: I'll be adding some logs to those bugs this afternoon now beta is tested | 12:57 |
| xivulon | yes please, do you think that is a show stopper? | 12:57 |
| xivulon | I tested in VM and I do not have any problem | 12:58 |
| cgregan | davmor2: sounds like we will be importing your day here tomorrow. | 13:00 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: no you just hit continue and it carries on. It's not major but I think it would be bad for final to still have | 13:00 |
| davmor2 | cgregan: great does that mean we get yours :) | 13:00 |
| xivulon | davmor2 did you test ISO extraction? As entioned in the bug, the error you reported was due to something else | 13:01 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: I'll add logs from vista and xp too. Also removal isn't playing nice at all. That I think is far more important than the cd is ejected issue :) | 13:01 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: I'll look at that after too for you | 13:01 |
| xivulon | I am aware of uninstallation issues, have started working on them | 13:02 |
| xivulon | davmor2 thx | 13:03 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: Infact I'll go through all of my wubi bugs and see which what can be confirmed fixed etc | 13:03 |
| davmor2 | -what | 13:03 |
| xivulon | great | 13:05 |
| xivulon | by the way in beta bittorrent will be activated for the first time, and you cannot test that without actually generating a special build (with isolist pointing at isolist.ini) | 13:10 |
| xivulon | I meant: with isolist pointing at alpha-6 | 13:10 |
| xivulon | davmor2 do you know how to compile wuibi? | 13:11 |
| ara | eeejay: hello :-) | 14:24 |
| eeejay | hey hey ara | 14:24 |
| eeejay | ara: what is your last.fm username? | 14:24 |
| ara | eeejay: areta | 14:25 |
| ara | eeejay: I am reviewing the screenshot changes (and documenting ubuntu-desktop-testing in the wiki) and as I see, now test methods should return a list (message, screenshot), isn't it? | 14:26 |
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| eeejay | ara: they could return either | 14:26 |
| ara | eeejay: or none? | 14:26 |
| eeejay | ara: just a message, or a screenshot too | 14:27 |
| eeejay | the message is default | 14:27 |
| * ara gets the dx branch to see an example | 14:27 | |
| ara | eeejay: in notify-osd I just see that you raise AssertionErrors when somehting fails | 14:29 |
| ara | eeejay: but you're not returnnig a message | 14:30 |
| * eeejay checks | 14:30 | |
| eeejay | ara: you mean return a message on success? | 14:30 |
| ara | no, in general | 14:31 |
| eeejay | ara: the notify_osd.py script raises 4 AssertionErrors, 2 with screenshots, 2 just with messages | 14:32 |
| eeejay | ara: as for funtion return values, the function only returns on success :) | 14:32 |
| eeejay | ara: legal return values are either None, or (message, screenshot) | 14:33 |
| ara | OK, I understand now | 14:33 |
| eeejay | ara: so the message/screenshot would be logged to the test result, but it would pass | 14:33 |
| eeejay | ara: I don't have a use for it yet, but it might be useful for us in the future. | 14:34 |
| ara | eeejay: sure. thanks! | 14:34 |
| davmor2 | c's | 14:44 |
| eeejay | ara: I think another nice addition would be optional stdout printing, especially stack traces. | 14:52 |
| ara | eeejay: yes, it would be useful | 14:54 |
| davmor2 | meh still hasn't seen a release announcement | 15:11 |
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| thewrath | hey aredg | 16:16 |
| aredg | hi | 16:16 |
| davmor2 | netsplits-r-us | 16:17 |
| thewrath | agreed davmor2 | 16:18 |
| thewrath | what time zone is the ubuntu team in | 16:18 |
| thewrath | btw | 16:18 |
| thewrath | i am not sure | 16:18 |
| davmor2 | thewrath: all over | 16:18 |
| thewrath | oh ok | 16:18 |
| davmor2 | I think it's fair to say they are global :) | 16:18 |
| thewrath | was not sure if there was an officail time | 16:18 |
| davmor2 | utc | 16:19 |
| davmor2 | which would currently be 4:19 | 16:19 |
| davmor2 | pm | 16:19 |
| thewrath | k | 16:19 |
| sbeattie | Hrm, anyone able to get to https://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/? | 16:31 |
| aredg | no | 16:31 |
| davmor2 | http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/ | 16:32 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: remove the s | 16:32 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: doh! stupid awesomebar. | 16:33 |
| davmor2 | :D never mind | 16:33 |
| aredg | wow, i can't believe transmission is still the default bitorrent client | 16:35 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: looking at the freesoftware only install test, I thought there was some package checks that we used to make sure it wasn't "contaminated" | 16:35 |
| davmor2 | aredg: why it works :) | 16:35 |
| aredg | davmor2, there are much better clients that should be chosen imo | 16:36 |
| * eeejay likes transmission | 16:37 | |
| * eeejay hides | 16:37 | |
| aredg | :O | 16:37 |
| eeejay | it's simple, has upnp, even a web interface.. | 16:38 |
| aredg | deluge has every transmission has, but better :p | 16:38 |
| davmor2 | aredg: transmission and deluge are the two most complete gnome supported clients gnome also chose transmission which may of been the deciding factor | 16:38 |
| heno | is the server install supposed to launch aptitude? | 16:38 |
| heno | it happens just before package installation starts | 16:39 |
| sbeattie | heno: I think only if you select "manually select packages" | 16:39 |
| heno | I might have ticked that without noticing, ok | 16:39 |
| heno | I just selected everything on the list | 16:40 |
| * sbeattie starts on an alt free software only install to see what actually gets installed. | 16:40 | |
| davmor2 | heno: then yes you hit it | 16:40 |
| sbeattie | heno: ah, yep, last one on the list is manually select. | 16:40 |
| heno | doing the RAID1 test case in vbox - seems to support multiple disks nicely now :) | 16:40 |
| sbeattie | heno: yeah, I use vbox for that; though I can only get a total of 3 disks; I'd really like 4 for an accurate raid10 test | 16:41 |
| heno | sbeattie: is it limited to 3 by vbox itself? | 16:42 |
| sbeattie | Last time I tried it was. | 16:42 |
| * sbeattie tries again | 16:42 | |
| heno | yeah, confirmed it too | 16:43 |
| heno | If you enable the SATA controller it works | 16:43 |
| sbeattie | right, because it's emulating a primary/secondary ide controller and the cdrom drive is always the secondary master. | 16:43 |
| sbeattie | Oooh. | 16:44 |
| sbeattie | Is that in w/jaunty's virtualbox? | 16:44 |
| heno | sbeattie: 8.10 version from the vbox site running on Jaunty | 16:46 |
| heno | so not the fully Free software version | 16:46 |
| sbeattie | heno: ah. support for usb, also, then. Hrm. | 16:46 |
| heno | yes | 16:47 |
| arthax0r | hello | 17:04 |
| * arthax0r is downloading jaunty | 17:05 | |
| arthax0r | how is the upgrade from intrepid? | 17:06 |
| heno | arthax0r: you can install from the CD and preserve /home | 17:06 |
| charlie-tca | The one I just ran worked fine | 17:06 |
| heno | http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopExistingHome | 17:07 |
| heno | sbeattie: what package should I file a bug against when a raid setup fails to bood from a degraded array? | 17:07 |
| sbeattie | heno: mdadm | 17:08 |
| heno | sbeattie: thanks | 17:08 |
| heno | ooh - a ton of untriaged bugs there | 17:09 |
| arthax0r | i wasn't too concerned about /home.. | 17:09 |
| * arthax0r does backup after all | 17:09 | |
| arthax0r | :> | 17:09 |
| charlie-tca | heno: when you run cat /proc/mdstat, did the array come back after reconnecting the drives? | 17:10 |
| arthax0r | thx for the link heno | 17:10 |
| heno | let me try | 17:11 |
| charlie-tca | I found I could boot to either drive, but the disconnected one never returned / to the array again | 17:11 |
| heno | erm, now it works when I boot with just one drive - last time it timed out and dropped me to busybox | 17:13 |
| * charlie-tca thought it was just my inexperience with RAID | 17:13 | |
| heno | damned Heisenbugs | 17:13 |
| arthax0r | is this also the place for kubuntu testing? | 17:13 |
| arthax0r | i think i am going to try them both | 17:14 |
| arthax0r | personally, i use xmonad or dwm-gtx, but i want to check out kdenlive | 17:14 |
| arthax0r | currently i use a couple intrepid desktops, and a couple hardy servers | 17:15 |
| heno | arthax0r: kubuntu testing is very welcome :) | 17:17 |
| arthax0r | :) | 17:18 |
| heno | charlie-tca: it's rebuilding the raid now | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca | so it is me... | 17:18 |
| heno | charlie-tca: did it never try to rebuild it? | 17:19 |
| arthax0r | well thanks for the info, i'll report on my progress later :> | 17:19 |
| charlie-tca | It said it was, but it never did come back. | 17:19 |
| heno | here is says 'recovery = X%' | 17:19 |
| heno | ok, I'll let it complete and see | 17:19 |
| charlie-tca | I ran it 3-4 installations, and I can remove either hard drive the first time. | 17:19 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, I had that, about 6 restarts worth. It just never put it back in the array | 17:20 |
| heno | charlie-tca: how long did you let it sit before restarting - it will need some uptime to rebuild | 17:23 |
| charlie-tca | anywhere from 5 minutes to 1 hour | 17:24 |
| charlie-tca | got pretty frustrated | 17:25 |
| sbeattie | if it had been doing it, you should have seen some progress in /proc/mdstat | 17:25 |
| sbeattie | and/or via sudo mdadm --detail /dev/mdX | 17:26 |
| sbeattie | heno: did you have to mdadm --add the device back to the array, or did it come back in automatically? | 17:27 |
| charlie-tca | What I got was [2/1] [U_] under the active raid line | 17:27 |
| heno | sbeattie: I came back when I rebooted | 17:28 |
| heno | or rather, it came back at [2/1] and then worked its way to [2/2] | 17:28 |
| sbeattie | heno: right. | 17:29 |
| sbeattie | charlie-tca: I wonder if manually adding it back via 'mdadm /dev/mdX --add /dev/sdXX' would have worked. | 17:29 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know, but I can do it again today and find out. Like I said, it might just be my knowledge is lacking | 17:30 |
| charlie-tca | I am adding server to my testing, just because of this, though. I will learn yet | 17:33 |
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| charlie-tca | sbeattie: another installation of server using two hard drives on hardware. The array rebuilt like it should. | 18:48 |
| sbeattie | hunh | 18:49 |
| charlie-tca | I blame it on me. Never filed a bug, anyway | 18:50 |
| diver | ppl, when 9.04 beta will release? | 19:48 |
| slangasek | this evening | 19:51 |
| sbeattie | for values of evening that may or may not be appropriate in your timezone. | 19:51 |
| diver | o thanks ) | 19:51 |
| stgraber | slangasek: bug info balloon are back (report too) | 20:18 |
| slangasek | w00t | 20:18 |
| slangasek | "report"? | 20:18 |
| stgraber | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/report | 20:19 |
| slangasek | oh, I've never seen that before :) | 20:19 |
| stgraber | really ? I thought you used that for Intrepid ... | 20:19 |
| slangasek | not that I recall | 20:19 |
| stgraber | it gives you an overview of all bugs that have been reported for a milestone and some info from LP | 20:20 |
| slangasek | yes, that's very useful :) | 20:20 |
| slangasek | better than my approach of "scrape the build/all/all page, feed all the bug urls to firefox with xargs" :-) | 20:21 |
| stgraber | slangasek: hmm, indeed :) | 20:24 |
| stgraber | heno: bug balloon and report are back on the iso tracker | 20:25 |
| heno | stgraber: whohoo! | 20:25 |
| jtisme | who is the release manager for jaunty | 21:07 |
| heno | jtisme: slangasek is | 21:07 |
| jtisme | heno does he have an email i can send a short msg to | 21:08 |
| jtisme | about kde regression testing | 21:08 |
| heno | jtisme: he's in this chan | 21:08 |
| heno | jtisme: can I help? I'm responsible for testing | 21:09 |
| jtisme | heno yes is there a regression test suite for kde that is run prior to each release? | 21:10 |
| jtisme | alpha release that is | 21:10 |
| heno | jtisme: just manual test cases run in connection with ISO testing | 21:10 |
| heno | see http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com for cases | 21:11 |
| jtisme | then a bug report made for any problems, correct? | 21:11 |
| heno | indeed | 21:11 |
| jtisme | I am wondering if we could possibly form a group that would perform basic regression tests on kde and somehow have direct access to the developers to fix problems before relases | 21:12 |
| jtisme | relases=releases | 21:12 |
| heno | jtisme: that would be welcome. If you are hooked into the QA team and file good bugs then you will have access | 21:14 |
| heno | I suggest you propose it on the QA mailing list and bring the idea to our next QA meeting | 21:14 |
| jtisme | hmm i was part of the QA team about 3 releases ago, do you have my info around jtholmes is the handle | 21:15 |
| heno | we can also run a KDE testing day (generally Mondays) | 21:15 |
| heno | ok, cool | 21:15 |
| jtisme | where is the QA mailing list and am i still part of the testing team or do i need to reregister? | 21:15 |
| heno | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/ and https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testing | 21:18 |
| jtisme | ok thanks | 21:18 |
| jtisme | heno where are the qa mail messages from march 22 to present they are not in the archives | 21:42 |
| heno | jtisme: are you sure anyone posted since then? that's 4 days ago and we've been release-testing :) | 21:44 |
| heno | 22nd is the last message in my local mail folder too | 21:45 |
| jtisme | heno where is the QA meeting info | 21:46 |
| heno | jtisme: http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/42 | 21:47 |
| jtisme | thanks | 21:47 |
| heno | agendas and times are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings | 21:48 |
| heno | every Wednesday at 17.00 UTC basically | 21:48 |
| jtisme | thanks heno | 21:50 |
| heno | np :) | 21:50 |
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