=== MisterN_ is now known as MisterN === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [02:53] * wgrant spies some LAZR [02:55] Ah, not really. === jelmer_ is now known as Guest8700 [05:02] on bugmail, what are the possible values after "X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale: Subscriber [05:02] er for the rationale? [05:02] Subscriber and what else? [05:04] maco: There's Assigne, IIRC [05:05] s/Assigne/Assignee/ [05:05] So "Reporter" currently not an option? [05:05] And also remember that there are variants of Subscriber and Assignee. [05:05] NAFAIK [05:05] You can tell if you've commented on the bug, though. [05:06] im trying to figure out how to filter "people replying to bugs i reported, asking me a question" separate from "people replying to bugs they reported where i asked a question" [05:06] That would be nice, yes. [05:06] I smell a bug. [05:06] yeah.....wishlist time [05:12] wgrant: filed === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk === jelmer_ is now known as Guest44925 [06:01] maco: code review email has rationales of "Subscriber" for personally subscribed "Subscriber @team-name" for a team subscription, or "Reviewer" [06:01] * thumper wonders off again [06:38] argh!!! [06:38] What has died? [06:38] +queue? [06:39] wgrant: some git just contacted the entirety of ubuntu members, promoting linkedin. Thanks, launchpad! [06:39] I thought that launchpad was going to fix it, so you couldn't send mail to large teams? [06:39] Members can, AFAIK. [06:40] hurrah [06:40] * Hobbsee also moves more bugs away from packages that no longer exist, but people keep filing on anyway [06:41] It seems that non-members can only contact the owner, although that's not entirely obvious. [06:41] woah. launchpad front page changed. [06:41] Hobbsee: A release or two ago now. [06:42] no, not that change. A more recent change [06:42] and how do i get stuff like the bottom of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug-advanced on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-restricted-extras/+filebug-advanced? [06:42] Hobbsee: I don't think there's UI for that. But you can use launchpadlib. [06:43] ah [06:47] * Hobbsee hits the "spam 450 people" button, and grins. [07:03] Hobbsee: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-January/027206.html === cyberix_ is now known as cyberix [07:04] james_w: sweet, thanks! [07:06] even better, it appears i've got commit access... [07:15] james_w: pushed, thanks for the help [07:17] np === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [09:51] FE FI FO FUM [09:52] * wgrant hides. === cprov changed the topic of #launchpad to: PPAs offline 16.00 - 16.30 UTC 27th March | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [11:49] wgrant: ping [11:49] so ppa teams don't own BTSs? [11:50] BUGabundo: What do you mean by BTS? [11:57] hi guys I need some help creating a branch/series [11:57] bug track system [11:57] aka LP bugs [11:57] i have a program with my main code in the series trunk [11:58] now I want to have a separate data folder in my project where only few people will be able to commit [11:58] how can I do that? [11:58] BUGabundo: Projects, distributions, packages and their series have bugs. [11:58] BUGabundo: Nothing else. [11:59] ivangarcia: You can't, without having a separate branch owned by another team. [11:59] ivangarcia: Or do you mean you want to create another branch, rather than a subdirectory of the existing one? [11:59] That is easy. [12:00] wgrant, u say I cannot do it with subdirectories right? [12:01] ivangarcia: Correct. [12:01] wgrant: maybe I'm not getting this right! [12:01] wgrant, so I created a different branch at https://code.launchpad.net/~babiloo-maintainers-vi/babiloo/dictionaries-vi [12:01] but when I do a bzr branch of https://code.launchpad.net/~babiloo-maintainers-vi/babiloo/dictionaries-vi [12:01] it loads me again the main code of the app [12:01] how can? shoudn't be empty? [12:02] ivangarcia: How did you create the branch? [12:02] wgrant, look at here, https://code.launchpad.net/babiloo [12:02] i clicked on Register a branch button [12:03] ivangarcia: I can't branch from that URL. [12:03] There is no branch there - it is empty. [12:04] wgrant, open this from the browser https://code.launchpad.net/babiloo [12:05] ivangarcia: You need to create a new branch ('bzr init' in a new directory) and push to lp:~babiloo-maintainers-vi/babiloo/dictionaries-vi [12:06] There's nothing in that branch now. === jelmer_ is now known as Guest25096 [12:06] BUGabundo: What is your understanding of how things work? [12:06] wgrant, let me try [12:07] ok imagine this [12:07] I have gwibber [12:07] gwibber is in archive [12:08] but also on fta, gwibber team, and gwibber daily [12:08] when I file a bug via apport [12:08] it will refuse to use it, 'cause of version missmatch with archive [12:08] wgrant, it says this [12:08] bzr: ERROR: Target directory lp:~babiloo-maintainers-vi/babiloo/dictionaries-vi already exists, but does not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply --use-existing-dir to push there anyway. [12:08] should i supply that? [12:08] I just want it to file any way and indicate the version [12:09] and if possible report it upstream (or manually to the upstream project/team) [12:09] ivangarcia: Yes. You didn't need to register the branch in the web UI - you can just push to a URL and it will create it. [12:09] wgrant: why can't apport just do that! [12:09] oh, ok, but if I want to restrinct the owner of that new branch? not to me but to a team? [12:09] BUGabundo: You are not permitted to file bugs against Ubuntu packages if the version you have installed is from a PPA, unless the maintainer of the package in Ubuntu has explicitly authorised you to do so. [12:10] ivangarcia: Just give lp:~teamname/project/branch rather than lp:~myusername/project/branch [12:11] ah ok, many thks wgrant [12:11] wgrant: ahhhhhhhhhhh so its an Option thing!!! got it [12:11] BUGabundo: Huh? [12:11] ivangarcia: np [12:12] didn't know that mantainers would have an option for it [12:13] BUGabundo: There is no technical option. It is simply impolite and rejectable to do it unless they tell you you are allowed to. [12:14] yes yes [12:14] ok [12:14] now I got it better [12:14] sort of like how you aren't permitted to walk naked in the streets most places [12:15] except that you aren't quite so likely to be arrested on launchpad [12:15] wgrant might try [12:15] bigjools: Hm? [12:15] to arrest someone :) [12:16] Ah. [12:16] That might be a bit difficult. [12:16] you thought bigjools meant you might try to walk naked through the streets? [12:16] Heh. [12:16] * bigjools shudders === jelmer_ is now known as Guest46817 === allenap changed the topic of #launchpad to: PPAs offline 16.00 - 16.30 UTC 27th March | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: allenap | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [13:05] Anything interesting happening to PPAs whilst they're down? [13:05] disk upgrade [13:06] so not really :) === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara === salgado-afk is now known as salgado === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === sabdfl1 is now known as sabdfl === qball is now known as MrGrumpy === jelmer_ is now known as Guest32530 === fuks is now known as amz === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === mrevell changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: allenap | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [16:26] PPAs are back online following a few minutes of planned maintenance. [16:43] Guys how can I delete a blueprint I just submited...is listed in the wrong proyect === allenap changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [16:46] felipe_: Can you give me the URL and I'll see what I can do. [16:48] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/earcandy/+spec/sources.list-switche [16:48] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/earcandy/+spec/sources.list-switcher [16:48] I can't link it to the NetworkManager Project [16:48] hi [16:49] felipe__: Have you tried https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/earcandy/+spec/sources.list-switcher/+retarget [16:49] it seems like launchpad is having trouble scanning https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jelmer/git/trunk [16:50] it says I should rename the blueprint, but I aslo want to delete it from earcandy === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [16:53] felipe__: Something weird is going on....! [16:55] allenap, oh good, I feel less stupid :D [16:55] lol [16:56] So what should I do? rename the blueprint and link it to NetworkManager although I can't find the NetworkManager Projetc? [16:58] sinzui, flacoste: I'm trying to help felipe__ retarget a blueprint, but it's going a bit weird. In staging, whenever I retarget *any* blueprint, it ends up in the earcandy project. Any ideas? [16:59] felipe__: https://edge.launchpad.net/network-manager [16:59] * sinzui looks [17:01] jelmer: I don't know what's happening there. The code guys are all asleep or at PyCon :) rockstar, are you around to help jelmer? === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [17:02] allenap, after the blueprint is submited what else should I do? [17:03] felipe__: I'm getting you a workaround, sinzui's looking into the cause of the problem. Hang with us :) [17:06] allenap, No prob, but the question was in general...after submiting and blueprint what else should I do? I don't program good enough to implement the blueprint myself [17:07] allenap: my firefox has gone belly up. I'll need to try a new session [17:10] felipe__: In general I would try and talk to the maintainers/developers of the project in question and see if they're interested in your proposal. I don't know much at all about blueprints or about the way network-manager and Ubuntu use them, but you can propose a blueprint for consideration during a sprint. The upcoming UDS would be one such event. I suggest going on #ubuntu and asking about it there. [17:11] felipe__: Is that what you were looking for? [17:11] allenap, yes, thank you. [17:16] felipe_ I've finally got a working browser. Retarget means move to a different project. reading the scollback, I think you are saying you want to move sources.list-switcher from earcandy to netwrk-manager [17:18] sinzui: While I tried to see how it works, I added a blueprint in malone on staging. Retargeting it to, say, python-macports caused it to end up in earcandy, bizarrely. [17:19] allenap: so your saying if I try one of my specs, it too will migrate to eay candy? [17:19] earcandy [17:19] allenap, yea, thats what I was trying to do. [17:19] sinzui: Yep. [17:19] sinzui: I tried it twice, and they both ended up there! [17:20] wow! earcandy shows up when I search for launchpad [17:22] * gmb boggles at the scrollback [17:22] sinzui, lol [17:23] the earcandy guys are probably very happy with the bug, tons of publicity ;) [17:26] yep. This is wack [17:26] * sinzui ponders how to get his spec back [17:28] I see, so when you try to move the blueprint again, it is moved again to earcandy, which is an error because ear candy cannot have two blueprints of the same name [17:28] * sinzui looks at Blueprint's bug reports [17:33] I believe bug 309048 is mutating. blueprints were targeted to launchpad. Now it is earcandy. I wonder is ear candy is a member of the launchpad-project now? [17:33] Launchpad bug 309048 in blueprint "Cannot retarget to ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/309048 [17:33] sinzui: I have to go now, so thanks for looking into this issue. === beuno_ is now known as beuno [17:39] felipe_ This looks like a very bad bug: bug 320889 is the real bug. There is some change in the data that causes a different project to get the blueprint. Given that a few launchpad developers have looked at this, you will not be able to retarget your spec until someone lands a fix [17:39] Launchpad bug 320889 in blueprint "Can't retarget a blueprint" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320889 [17:40] felipe_I will escalate this issue and get it fixed for the next Launchpad release next week [17:42] sinzui: That wins the 2.2.3 weirdest bug prize, I think. [17:42] gmb: abentley first reported the issue in December 2008 [17:43] sinzui: Ah. s/\.2\.3/.5/ then... [17:43] earcandy has my spec and I want it back [17:43] Heh. [17:48] sinzui, Thank you very much. === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [17:58] Why doesn't LP detect the merged revision of a merge request? [17:58] It detects that it's been merged, so it can't be difficult to get the revision number surely? [17:59] cocooncrash, it actually is kinda hard [17:59] it's on our radar, just hard to do [17:59] beuno: Thanks [18:00] cocooncrash, because it could of been merged very deep in the branch [18:00] so you you end up recursively going through it [18:00] or [18:00] you try and be smart [18:01] we want to be smart, just haven't figured out how yet :) [18:01] sinzui: The issue we discussed yesterday? [18:05] abentley: bug 309048 [18:05] Launchpad bug 309048 in blueprint "Cannot retarget to ubuntu (dup-of: 320889)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/309048 [18:05] Launchpad bug 320889 in blueprint "Can't retarget a blueprint" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320889 [18:06] The target project changes, but the point is that the blueprint never goes to the right project [18:06] sinzui: I'm not sure why you're telling me this. [18:07] abentley: You reported the first instance of this bug, that is all that I meant. [18:07] sinzui: Ah, I'd forgotten. [18:08] If I can fix this bug, I can get my spec back [18:19] beuno: Ah, I see === fjlacoste is now known as flacoste [18:50] There's something weird going on with the gmpc-trunk ppa, it can't find certain packages within it. [18:50] And packages that rely on a dependency can't find the dependency in the ppa. === beuno_ is now known as beuno [19:00] how do I get someone to approve translation files waiting to be imported for Jaunty? [19:00] ie. kubuntu-docs [19:00] nixternal, you ping danilos, jtv1 or henninge_ [19:00] not sure if they're still here [19:01] beuno: thanks for pinging them for me :p [19:01] :) [19:01] I don't remember doing this in the past...has it always been this way? [19:02] could be the reason why "kubuntu documentation translation were horrible in the past"....never got imported so I always pulled the old stuff :D [19:09] Is there an appropriate way for a team in launchpad to manage a short-term (1 month) project? [19:10] newz2000, you mean, like a launchpad release? [19:10] I don't know, I've read about them but not used them [19:11] but for example, I'll create a mini website, I have to gather information, track changes, all the usual project stuff, but then it will be done and never change again. [19:12] does it make sense to make one launchpad project for all of a team's individual projects and each individual project would be a release? [19:14] Does anyone else get 100% xorg cpu usage when visiting any launchpad bug/spec list such as https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu ? [19:15] it has happened to me for the past month or so in Jaunty with Firefox, I can't figure it out [19:15] I removed my ~/.mozilla and started fresh, same thing [19:19] mrooney: try disabling some firefox extensions... start with flash, flashblock and firebug [19:20] * newz2000 had the same problem but it was some errant extension at fault [19:20] newz2000: hm, as I said above I actually cleared out my whole .mozilla [19:20] check your addons to see if there are any enabled, especially flash [19:20] I am not sure if you understand what removing .mozilla does :) [19:21] well, some add ons are installed system wide [19:23] yes in rare cases I suppose, but anyway there is not a single extension enabled [19:23] I also disabled every plugin for good measure :) [19:24] not rare... the first time you visit a flash site ubufox will offer to install three different flash plugins for you [19:24] well yes but then that would still be an ubuntu supplied thing and thus a valid bug [19:25] anyway thanks for your suggestions though, I think I will file a bug === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [20:22] Looking for some info on Launchpad interfaces with other bug trackers in the wiki. Any EDT zone LP folks available? rockstar, leonardr, abentley? [20:22] cgregan, I'm usually not EDT, but what are you looking to do? [20:22] rockstar: whoops...just a listing and whether or not they are two way comms. [20:22] cgregan, from what I understand, yes, they are two way connections. I don't know all the supported bug trackers [20:22] * rockstar is not on the bugs team [20:23] rockstar: Yeah...seemed late for the bugs guys though [20:23] gmb: ping? [20:24] cgregan: You mean something like this: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers? [20:24] matsubara: Hmm...sort of. But more of an official list of what you can register [20:25] matsubara: there may be more supported than what is registered [20:26] cgregan: there is a bug tracker type select box in the registry an external bug tracker page. AFAIK, those are ones LP can communicate with [20:27] cgregan: some of them, like bugzilla and trac, can do two way communication if the remote tracker uses the LP plugin. [20:29] matsubara: yes..that is exactly the info I am looking for. Like a table: || Name || 2-Way comms || Plugin || etc. [20:30] cgregan: this post from gmb might shed some light http://blog.launchpad.net/cool-new-stuff/announcing-the-launchpad-plugin-api-spec [20:32] matsubara: ah...ok. I see [20:32] Thanks matsubara! [20:32] cgregan: I'm afraid I can't be of much help re: which of those remote trackers offer two way comm with LP, other than bugzilla and trac [20:34] matsubara: not a problem....I will go with the safe bet and tell my group it is only Bugzilla and Trac for now === henninge_ is now known as henninge [20:40] nixternal: You will have to ask Arne Goetje about the kubuntu-docs template uploads. [20:40] nixternal: He approves all Ubuntu-related imports. [20:41] roger that, thanks! [20:41] nixternal: As I can see, you just uploaded those today so Arne may still approve them in his normal work flow. === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [21:14] nixternal: Are you aware of the discussion on ubuntu-translators about Kubuntu-docs? === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk [21:26] Can someone help me figure out why source packages can't find dependencies that are already in the PPA? [21:28] ripps, sometimes it's a race condition between publication and building [21:30] kiko: the dependencies have been there for days, and they were working as dependecies only a few hours ago. Then, suddenly, the packages stop recognizing them. [21:31] ripps, that's pretty odd. what do the buildlog failures tell you? [21:31] kiko: gmpc-dev: Depends: gmpc (= 0.18.0+git090324-0ubuntu2~rippsi) but it is not going to be installed [21:31] both packages are there. [21:31] ripps, sounds like there's a version problem. [21:32] ripps, is it fetching the packages file from your PPA? [21:32] yes [21:33] kiko: the ppa is https://edge.launchpad.net/~gmpc-trunk/+archive/ppa [21:39] henninge: wasn't aware of that, thanks [21:44] exit === sale_ is now known as sale === MrGrumpy is now known as n7 === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [23:17] I keep seeing 'too much recursion' errors in Firebug when using edge. It started a few days ago and is happening every so often. [23:17] I've seen it at least on bug and branch pages. [23:17] No Javascript-related behaviour breaks, as far as I can tell, and there's no line number in the Firebug message. [23:18] So, I'm not even entirely sure it isn't Firebug itself crapping out, but I figured out mention it in case others had seen similar.