[13:39] <Cimi_> kwwii,
[13:45] <kwwii> Cimi_: hey
[13:45] <Cimi_> feedback?
[14:15] <kwwii> Cimi_: my laptop b0rked on me yesterday...won't start now
[14:15] <kwwii> Cimi_: I'll build it again on this computer in a bit
[15:39] <kwwii> Cimi_: erm, murrine doesn't build
[15:39] <kwwii> ooops, I take that back
[15:39] <kwwii> :p
[15:40] <kwwii> I spent the morning in open office, no wonder I can no longer think logicaly
[15:43] <kwwii> Cimi_: perfect
[15:44] <kwwii> Cimi_: need to make the fill a bit less colorful now I guess :)
[15:44] <kwwii> the box is kinda clunky now that I see it again
[15:44] <kwwii> but it will solve all the bugs being reported
[15:49] <_MMA_> kwwii: Just a Murrine update right? Nothing new to add to gtkrcs?
[15:53] <kwwii> _MMA_: right, just an update to the engine
[15:53] <kwwii> _MMA_: build it locally, it's simple
[15:55] <_MMA_> Not that big a deal for now.
[16:05] <kwwii> right
[16:10] <kwwii> Cimi_: did you add something to murrine which styles the panel differently?
[16:10] <kwwii> I'm seeing some wierd behavior with some applets
[16:12] <Cimi_> kwwii, explain
[16:14] <Cimi_> kwwii, in murrine_draw.c, function murrine_draw_focus, there are the double values of the alpha level, twek with them
[16:14] <Cimi_> anyway don't test murrine with human theme
[16:14] <Cimi_> the focus should look ok with other themes, now human
[16:15] <kwwii> Cimi_: it seems like there is a lower 3D-ish edge to some applet bg's even when the panel bg is set to a solid color by the theme
[16:15] <Cimi_> if you want to change the focus color, just edit the gtkrcoption
[16:15] <kwwii> Cimi_: this effects Dust Sand and others
[16:15] <Cimi_> I would like to see a screenshot
[16:18] <Cimi_> reboot
[16:24] <kwwii> erm, sorry...family problems, gotta run
[16:26] <Cimi> ok ;)
[16:41] <thorwil> about cloud computing: http://www.ende-der-vernunft.org/files/joern/20090324-geekandpokeg.jpg
[17:21] <kwwii> Cimi: ok, re
[17:22] <kwwii> Cimi: http://sinecera.de/panel-funkiness.png shows the problem
[17:22] <kwwii> but now that i look at it, I think this is not just a murrine problem
[17:22] <kwwii> it also happens with clearlooks
[17:59] <Cimi> kwwii, what about the focus? things to improve, ideas for the treeview
[18:47] <kwwii> Cimi: let me play around with some ideas and see what comes out of it
[18:48] <kwwii> making pizza for the family atm
[19:05] <Cimi> kwwii, wonna some tricks from your italian friend? :)
[21:30] <MadsRH> Does anyone know if there's a SVG file available for the new Jaunty wallpaper?
[21:31] <Cimi> kwwii, and you should fix the wallpaper!
[21:35] <MadsRH> Or does anyone know where I can download a hi-res version of the PNG?
[23:03] <smallfoot-> its very difficult to see the difference between the active and inactive windows in the taskbar with ubuntu-human theme
[23:11] <Cimi> kwwii, please mockups!
[23:13] <_MMA_> Cimi: He ain't gonna do it now. :) It's like midnight. :)
[23:38] <kwwii> Cimi: _MMA_ is right, it is too late tonight, and the biggest problem I have had is a decent way to test ideas...do you know how to test the treeview best?
[23:38] <kwwii> ie, I am not sure exactly what you mean :p
[23:38] <kwwii> but honestly, tonight I am done...I think I am getting a cold
[23:38] <_MMA_> kwwii: Apply theme and use treeview in Nautilus?
[23:38] <_MMA_> (in the sice pane)
[23:39] <_MMA_> *side
[23:39] <kwwii> personally, I think that all the highlights should look the same
[23:39] <kwwii> some should be more saturated or opaque than others
[23:39] <kwwii> but the general look should be the same
[23:40] <kwwii> I like the idea of a rounded box with a mainly transparent fill
[23:40] <kwwii> but I also liked the fill with the line for the buttons
[23:42] <kwwii> anyway, time for sleep
[23:42] <kwwii> I will be online tomorrow
[23:42] <kwwii> and working
[23:42] <kwwii> get back to you asap
[23:43] <_MMA_> night