| === jmarsden_ is now known as jmarsden | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 06:31 |
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| pitti | kenvandine_wk: please don't bother attaching orig.tar.gz's to bug reports; it's already in your PPA (for opal) | 08:17 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - did you get your DSL connection sorted? | 08:46 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: yes, has worked since Tuesday; me happy ;) | 08:46 |
| chrisccoulson | thats good to hear:) | 08:46 |
| chrisccoulson | i get a new DSL connection today (hopefully). i've been completely lost without it for the last week ;) | 08:46 |
| pitti | that sucks | 08:47 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: no 3G or so? | 08:47 |
| pitti | I'm using my UMTS USB stick when my main internet is down | 08:47 |
| chrisccoulson | i've been using the 3G connection on my cell phone | 08:49 |
| chrisccoulson | it's a bit slow though ;) | 08:49 |
| seb128 | good morning there | 08:59 |
| * seb128 looks at the jaunty-changes unread count, yeah unfrozen! | 08:59 | |
| * pitti hugs seb128, bonjour | 08:59 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 08:59 | |
| pitti | seb128: where's your Jedi student? | 09:00 |
| seb128 | pitti: ^ | 09:00 |
| * pitti hugs robert_ancell | 09:01 | |
| seb128 | pitti: apparently he doesn't have the IRC reflex yet ;-) | 09:01 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: congrats and thanks for your first jaunty uploads! | 09:01 |
| huats | morning everyone ! | 09:02 |
| huats | hello mister robert_ancell ! | 09:02 |
| pitti | bonjour huats | 09:02 |
| seb128 | lut huats | 09:02 |
| huats | bonjour pitti | 09:02 |
| huats | hey seb128 :) | 09:02 |
| pitti | seb128: recent retracer failure reported as bug 349407 and restarted, so ignore it | 09:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 349407 in apport "retracer crashes when setting importance of dup'ed bugs" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349407 | 09:03 |
| seb128 | huats: how are you? | 09:03 |
| seb128 | pitti: ok thanks | 09:03 |
| huats | you have no idea how happy I am to be here with you... the lasts days have been really busy with no internet :( | 09:03 |
| robert_ancell | hi all! | 09:03 |
| huats | but now it is better :) | 09:03 |
| huats | seb128: I am fine then :) | 09:03 |
| * seb128 hugs huats | 09:03 | |
| huats | thanks ! | 09:03 |
| seb128 | good :-) | 09:04 |
| huats | seb128: how are you ? | 09:04 |
| seb128 | did they send uds invitations yet? | 09:04 |
| * huats hugs seb128 too | 09:04 | |
| huats | seb128: I don't think so, or neither didrocks or I have been invited :( | 09:04 |
| seb128 | huats: good thanks, spent the week in London and flying back tonight | 09:04 |
| huats | oh great :) | 09:04 |
| seb128 | huats: they are rather slacking on the sending side | 09:04 |
| huats | I really love london | 09:04 |
| huats | seb128: ok | 09:05 |
| robert_ancell | huats: Hi Christophe! Didn't know your nick | 09:05 |
| huats | robert_ancell: I am sure you didn't :) | 09:05 |
| huats | robert_ancell: but don't worry you'll get use to seen me here ;) | 09:05 |
| * robert_ancell nick-to-name database is growing in his head | 09:06 | |
| huats | and by the time you wish you don't know my nick | 09:06 |
| huats | :) | 09:06 |
| huats | just ask seb128 or pitti they can confirm :) | 09:06 |
| robert_ancell | huats: seb128 will still get the worst of it as I'm hiding in another timezone :) | 09:07 |
| huats | :) | 09:07 |
| crevette | good morning gents | 09:27 |
| seb128 | re | 09:35 |
| seb128 | mvo: did you get bugs about update-manager eatin 100%cpu during installs? | 09:35 |
| seb128 | somebody asked about that on an IRC chan this week and I just got the issue | 09:35 |
| mvo | seb128: no | 09:42 |
| mvo | seb128: does it happen all the time? | 09:42 |
| mvo | seb128: or just for some installs | 09:42 |
| * mvo tries to reroduce | 09:42 | |
| seb128 | mvo: dunno, it happened today | 09:43 |
| seb128 | I didn't notice it before | 09:43 |
| seb128 | and the update was too short to debug it really | 09:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, Laney: could you try to get bug #317602 moving? | 09:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 317602 in libpst "Please upgrade libpst from upstream at www.five-ten-sg.com/libpst" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317602 | 09:52 |
| seb128 | we got bug #349312 now | 09:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 349312 in evolution "Evolution 2.26 does not support import of outlook .pst" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349312 | 09:52 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: hi... do you keep a list of desktop-applications still in need of launchpad-integration? | 10:04 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: hello, no | 10:05 |
| seb128 | baobab needs one in gnome-utils | 10:05 |
| seb128 | f-spot but that's mono and we have no binding for that | 10:06 |
| pitti | seb128: in hardy, gdm halted the system on its own, while in intrepid we switched to the ConsoleKit D-BUS functions, right? | 10:06 |
| seb128 | pitti: no, gdm didn't change, still calling shutdown directly | 10:06 |
| pitti | oh, argh | 10:06 |
| seb128 | pitti: gnome-session was using the gdm interface in hardy though | 10:07 |
| Ampelbein | ok, i'll do a little research myself. i could create a wiki-page based on the desktop-team packages with the status of launchpad-integration, if that's helping? | 10:07 |
| pitti | seb128: so fusa and gnome-panel still call gdm, not CK? | 10:07 |
| seb128 | pitti: and it's using ck in intrepid | 10:07 |
| seb128 | pitti: no they do call ck | 10:07 |
| seb128 | pitti: you asked about gdm ;-) | 10:07 |
| mnemo | pitti: right now, i got an update-manager bug that repros consistently but fails to be reported by apport | 10:07 |
| mvo | seb128: I just tried to reproduce it, no luck | 10:07 |
| seb128 | mvo: ok, I will try to get details if that happens again | 10:08 |
| seb128 | mvo: I get the "do you want to reboot every time" btw and I did reboot | 10:08 |
| seb128 | mvo: I guess that's the bug you fixed yesterday? | 10:08 |
| mnemo | pitti: actually it looks like a pygtk bug but it's strange that apport fails to report it --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygtk/+bug/349467 | 10:08 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 349467 in pygtk "update-manager fails to install todays updates due to "undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeUTF8"" [Undecided,New] | 10:08 |
| seb128 | ^ I can confirm that | 10:09 |
| pitti | seb128: okay, thanks | 10:09 |
| seb128 | python2.6 got broken | 10:09 |
| seb128 | go doko go | 10:09 |
| seb128 | mvo: ^ | 10:09 |
| mvo | geh | 10:11 |
| mvo | *sigh* | 10:11 |
| james_w | I suspect it is the change to configure args in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24209669/python2.6_2.6.1-1ubuntu4_2.6.1-1ubuntu5.diff.gz | 10:11 |
| james_w | doesn't seem to be documented in the changelog though | 10:11 |
| mvo | seb128: yes, do you have the new version already? | 10:17 |
| seb128 | mvo: yes | 10:17 |
| seb128 | mvo: cf #ubuntu-devel discussion | 10:18 |
| mvo | seb128: I mean the new update-notifier :) (the other bug you mentioned) | 10:18 |
| seb128 | mvo: oh, I just upgraded this morning | 10:19 |
| seb128 | I have 0.76.6 | 10:19 |
| mvo | seb128: ok, let me know if its still happening after you logged in with the new one | 10:20 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:21 |
| seb128 | pitti: the gdm bug is not really fixed | 10:22 |
| seb128 | pitti: ie if you reboot from the login screen you will get no warning | 10:22 |
| pitti | right, not in gdm, but from panel and fusa? | 10:22 |
| pitti | The gdm issue won't be fixed with the current gdm, I figure | 10:23 |
| seb128 | right | 10:24 |
| seb128 | pitti: bug #349437 is a duplicate but I don't remember what is to blame | 10:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 349437 in gnome-session "System policy prevents stopping the system when other users are logged in" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349437 | 10:40 |
| seb128 | pitti: cron had a ck session entry | 10:40 |
| james_w | libpam-ck-connector | 10:41 |
| james_w | consolekit | 10:41 |
| seb128 | pitti: we discussed about a such issue some time ago and you reassigned it somewhere ... do you remember what was buggy? | 10:41 |
| seb128 | james_w: thanks | 10:41 |
| james_w | it's a dupe | 10:41 |
| seb128 | james_w: right what I was saying ;-) | 10:41 |
| seb128 | " is a duplicate but I don't remember what is to blame" | 10:41 |
| james_w | bug 287715 | 10:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 287715 in consolekit "Trying to shut down or restart falsely suggests others are logged in" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287715 | 10:42 |
| seb128 | james_w: want to close it if you know where the is the other bug? | 10:42 |
| pitti | seb128: right, james_w beat me to it, thanks | 10:43 |
| seb128 | james_w: thanks | 10:43 |
| crevette | seb128, I had several requests to install gnome-user-share by default, It make sense to me, but I know the space is limited. what you think about. it has several dependencies like apache2 and obex-dat-server | 10:48 |
| seb128 | crevette: not for jaunty | 10:48 |
| crevette | I guess :) | 10:48 |
| seb128 | and I'm not sure we want to install apache by default no | 10:49 |
| crevette | seb128, because of the security risks ? | 10:49 |
| seb128 | because most desktop users don't want a webserver running yes | 10:49 |
| seb128 | no open port by default | 10:50 |
| crevette | system-wise or user-wise ? | 10:50 |
| james_w | seb128: rhythmbox is segfaulting for me loading the python plugin, so probably for the same reason, you may see a couple of reports on that today | 10:50 |
| james_w | though if apport is broken we won't see much fallout from this :-) | 10:50 |
| pitti | hehe | 10:51 |
| crevette | for apache2, it would be cool, if it wasn't started by default system-wise and for gnome-user-share we can modify the gconf schema to not enable webdav sharing. | 10:51 |
| mvo | heh :) | 10:51 |
| pitti | but we might get those in a bit, when apport-gtk starts working again, and collects all the pending .crash files | 10:51 |
| mnemo | i got the same thing with totem, it SEGVs in totem_python_module_load() | 10:56 |
| seb128 | mpt: dunno if you are interested but gnome bug #576587 discuss unmount against eject | 11:28 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 576587 in gdu volume monitor "allow eject even on non-ejectable volumes" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576587 | 11:28 |
| mpt | thanks seb128 | 11:30 |
| seb128 | np, thanks for looking at it ;-) | 11:30 |
| asac | bryce: you remember these firefox crashes on start because of bad window id bug? | 11:52 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: looking into the related for "ubuntu desktop bugs", i see the package seahorse-plugins missing. could you subscribe the team to bugmail so that the package gets listed? | 12:07 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: done | 12:08 |
| Ampelbein | thanks | 12:09 |
| * asac lunch | 12:24 | |
| seb128 | hey pedro_ | 12:39 |
| pedro_ | salut seb128 | 12:39 |
| seb128 | pedro_: bug #349467 | 12:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 349467 in python2.6 "Many python programs fail with: "undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeUTF8"" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349467 | 12:40 |
| seb128 | pedro_: be aware of this one it might get quite some duplicates today | 12:41 |
| seb128 | pedro_: the fixed binaries will be published soon | 12:41 |
| seb128 | pedro_: but it might take a while for mirrors to get those | 12:41 |
| pedro_ | seb128: ok!, will keep an eye, thanks for letting me know | 12:43 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 12:43 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| rickspencer3 | seb128: robert_ancell: how is it going? | 13:35 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| asac | pitti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/138961/ ... does that "lost something" like an apport bug? | 13:47 |
| asac | sound | 13:47 |
| asac | pitti: if you havent seen something like that i will just suggest to retry | 13:48 |
| pitti | asac: apparently a glitch in launchpad, sounds like a race condition | 13:52 |
| pitti | asac: we had that a while ago, but I thought it was fixed now, hmm | 13:52 |
| asac | pitti: ok i will ask her to retry | 13:53 |
| asac | if it happens again we can look | 13:53 |
| seb128 | rick's IRC seems to be still crashing | 13:54 |
| seb128 | hey rickspencer3, IRC still crashing? | 13:58 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: we were at lunch, things are going good | 13:59 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: FYI, just updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus; looking better every day :) | 13:59 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: this need-packaging bug you assigned to robert_ancell that was in reaction of canonical-desktop-team being subscribed? | 13:59 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: that was an error apparently and I unsubscribed the team some hours ago, not sure if you still want us to look at it | 14:00 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: sounds like you did look at it :) | 14:01 |
| rickspencer3 | was it tagged with ct-rev? | 14:01 |
| * rickspencer3 checks | 14:01 | |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: no, that was not an escalated bug | 14:01 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: but a random person who did subscribe teams when he meant to search for teams | 14:01 |
| * rickspencer3 reads release status | 14:02 | |
| === sabdfl1 is now known as sabdfl | ||
| Laney | seb128: Why did we need to package libpst from scratch? | 14:15 |
| seb128 | Laney: we being? | 14:15 |
| Laney | whoever did this update | 14:16 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: fyi - I ct-rev'd the shutter bug (I'm a but on auto pilot ;) ) | 14:16 |
| Laney | it's already in Debian and Ubuntu | 14:16 |
| Laney | hggdh: ^ | 14:16 |
| kenvandine_wk | rickspencer3: see my comments on the gnome-mount bug? | 14:16 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3: Hi | 14:16 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: ok | 14:16 |
| rickspencer3 | in the future, feel free to just unsubscribe and ct-rev it yourself. I'll see that you did so, and can respond if I think there's a problem | 14:16 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine_wk: which? | 14:17 |
| seb128 | Laney: the debian version is a fork of the time where upstream was not actively working | 14:17 |
| rickspencer3 | I was expecting to see more bugs, and more sever bugs, this morning | 14:17 |
| seb128 | Laney: it only builds a binary and no library | 14:17 |
| seb128 | Laney: upstream picked up work again since | 14:17 |
| seb128 | Laney: and they did a proper library and evolution uses that one now | 14:18 |
| Laney | Is this new upstream completely different? | 14:18 |
| seb128 | Laney: the packaging is basically a switch back to the new upstream version | 14:18 |
| Laney | I'm just asking why this package isn't based on what we already have | 14:18 |
| seb128 | Laney: it was quicker to redo the packaging | 14:18 |
| seb128 | Laney: the codebase are totally different apparently | 14:18 |
| kenvandine_wk | rickspencer3: bug 345317 | 14:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 345317 in notify-osd "usb/firewire(?) notifications are not implemented" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345317 | 14:19 |
| hggdh | Laney, what is the question? | 14:19 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine_wk: why would we pop a notification and open a window? | 14:20 |
| kenvandine_wk | we shouldn't | 14:20 |
| kenvandine_wk | i was just suggesting this might be something other than gnome-mount specific | 14:20 |
| kenvandine_wk | maybe we shouldn't notify for disks mounted | 14:20 |
| rickspencer3 | I don't think it's a bug, actually | 14:20 |
| kenvandine_wk | yeah | 14:20 |
| Laney | hggdh: Did you work with Debian at all on libpst? | 14:21 |
| kenvandine_wk | the spec suggests a notification when a usb or firewire device is plugged in | 14:21 |
| kenvandine_wk | which might be kind of slick | 14:21 |
| rickspencer3 | oh? | 14:21 |
| hggdh | Laney, I opened a debian bug. Never heard back from them | 14:21 |
| rickspencer3 | I thought it just opened the window, ready to roll | 14:21 |
| kenvandine_wk | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD#device-detection | 14:21 |
| kenvandine_wk | rickspencer3: for disks yes | 14:21 |
| hggdh | which is not entirely surprising, given they were on freeze to publish | 14:21 |
| kenvandine_wk | it mounts it and opens nautilus | 14:21 |
| rickspencer3 | I see | 14:22 |
| rickspencer3 | so mpt wants bubble (there's a device) ... then proper nautilus action | 14:22 |
| kenvandine_wk | yeah, a usb device could be something else that won't get mounted | 14:22 |
| kenvandine_wk | i think it is a wish list item though | 14:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | and kind of a can of worms | 14:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | what if you plugin a usb mouse... do we really want to notify of that? | 14:24 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine_wk: so it looks like the notification should rip for any device, so it is a valid bug | 14:24 |
| kenvandine_wk | xorg will just work with it... so you don't really need to know | 14:24 |
| rickspencer3 | I think the priority of "low" is correct | 14:24 |
| pitti | kenvandine_wk: ah, your ekiga package works wonderfully now, uploading; thanks | 14:25 |
| kenvandine_wk | the second part of the description is a duplicate of a bug that is fixed already | 14:25 |
| kenvandine_wk | pitti: great :) | 14:25 |
| kenvandine_wk | pitti: and it stopped crashing on me too... no idea why :) | 14:25 |
| rickspencer3 | I think the correct fix would be to pop the notification only if the system has not responded in some other way within some time limit (of like 250 ms) | 14:25 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine_wk: that seems hard to do properly, so I would advise leaving the bug as low, and perhaps we can pick it up in Karmic | 14:26 |
| kenvandine_wk | rickspencer3: my thoughts exactly | 14:26 |
| kenvandine_wk | rickspencer3: mind putting your comments on it? | 14:26 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine_wk: done | 14:30 |
| kenvandine_wk | rickspencer3: thx | 14:30 |
| bratsche | Hey, anyone here have any Bluetooth hardware that can share files? | 14:34 |
| bratsche | And who would be willing to test a patch of mine for gnome-user-share?? :) | 14:34 |
| popey | bratsche: i have a phone that i can browser just fine with gnome | 14:35 |
| popey | *browse | 14:35 |
| bratsche | popey: The bug is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-share/+bug/337352 | 14:38 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 337352 in gnome-user-share "gnome-user-share notification changes" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:38 |
| bratsche | Hi mclasen! | 14:38 |
| bratsche | I didn't know you hang out here. :) | 14:38 |
| mclasen | hi | 14:38 |
| mclasen | I'm everywhere | 14:39 |
| Chipaca | asac: hi | 14:43 |
| Chipaca | asac: so, where were we? | 14:46 |
| popey | pitti: you asked for responses to bug 348940 | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 348940 in gnome-pilot "[FFE] New upstream release 2.0.17" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348940 | 14:47 |
| popey | pitti: unfortunately adding the gnome pilot app to the panel results in it running (I can see gpilotd and gpilot-applet in ps -ef) but no icon in the panel.. can someone else confirm this - no palm device is needed to do this | 14:48 |
| chrisccoulson | bratsche - i have BT hardware that can share files. I'll test your patch for you | 14:49 |
| popey | pitti: sync works, in that i can press the sync button on my pda and i get a popup sync window on the laptop, but i cant configure it because the icon is missing | 14:49 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: That would be awesome, thanks very much! | 14:49 |
| chrisccoulson | you're welcome | 14:50 |
| asac | Chipaca: font config bitmap fonts | 14:50 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: If you do see this dialog that I wrote, can you take a screenshot of it as well? There might be minor tweaks I need to do to it. But mostly I want to know if it shows up and basically works right. :) | 14:50 |
| Chipaca | asac: and dpkg-reconfigre fontconfig-config still showing the bitmapped fonts question, to no effect | 14:50 |
| asac | Chipaca: what is your use case for using that font? | 14:50 |
| pitti | popey: I can't add it to the panel, since that first brings up the configuration wizard/dialog | 14:51 |
| chrisccoulson | i can do that. i just tested the current version (without the patch), and i see the fallback dialog, which I think is expected isn't it? | 14:51 |
| Chipaca | asac: I use it in gnome terminal, emacs, and pidgin; it's the most readable fixed-width font I've found | 14:51 |
| pitti | popey: and if I select the defaults there, it (rightfully) complains about "no such device" | 14:51 |
| popey | pitti: i didnt think the configuration was compulsory | 14:51 |
| Chipaca | asac: where "readable" means "I can tell at a glance what is an I, a 1, an l, and a |", amongst other things | 14:52 |
| pitti | popey: right, applet is running, but not showing anything | 14:52 |
| popey | pitti: shall i file a bug? | 14:52 |
| pitti | popey: does that still work with the current jaunty version (2.0.15)? | 14:52 |
| pitti | popey: please do, and link it from the "2.0.17 upgrade" bug | 14:53 |
| popey | pitti: i got this problem before i updated to 2.0.17 | 14:53 |
| pitti | to keep a collection of feedback on it | 14:53 |
| popey | so yes, it happens with 2.0.15 too | 14:53 |
| seb128 | the current jaunty version has the same issue | 14:53 |
| pitti | popey: right, so it's not a regression | 14:53 |
| pitti | so there really shoudl be an existing bug report already | 14:53 |
| popey | my memory fails, I cant recall if i have used this okay in jaunty at all | 14:54 |
| popey | pitti: seb128 bug 349650, if you need more info, let me know | 14:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 349650 in gnome-pilot "gpilotd running but no panel icon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349650 | 14:56 |
| kenvandine_wk | update-manager tells me i must reboot... /me obeys the master | 14:56 |
| pitti | popey: can you please mention the testing done on bug 348940? | 14:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 348940 in gnome-pilot "[FFE] New upstream release 2.0.17" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348940 | 14:58 |
| popey | pitti: sure | 15:02 |
| pitti | popey: thanks | 15:02 |
| Chipaca | asac: does that count as a use case? | 15:03 |
| chrisccoulson | bratsche - i'm still seeing the fallback notification with your patch | 15:05 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: You're not using the patch at the top right? You're using the one later down the page? | 15:06 |
| chrisccoulson | the one titled "Small update" on the bug report | 15:07 |
| kenvandine_wk | Take 2? | 15:07 |
| bratsche | kenvandine_wk: Different bug. | 15:07 |
| kenvandine_wk | oh | 15:07 |
| kenvandine_wk | hehe | 15:07 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok | 15:07 |
| kenvandine_wk | :) | 15:07 |
| asac | Chipaca: yes thanks. i need to understand why we saw a regression that required the no-bitmaps things now | 15:08 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: Oh shit! Can you make a small one-line change and try again? | 15:08 |
| chrisccoulson | yep | 15:08 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: Line 195 of obexpush.c | 15:09 |
| bratsche | Change from if (supports_actions) | 15:09 |
| bratsche | to if (supports_actions ()) | 15:09 |
| bratsche | haha | 15:09 |
| Chipaca | asac: as I said, I don't see it as a regression (or rather, I didn't experience it as a regression); I've always had to do a dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config to enable bitmapped fonts to get the jmk fonts by default | 15:09 |
| chrisccoulson | that should probably do it ;) | 15:09 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll rebuild and try again | 15:09 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: d'oh :) | 15:09 |
| chrisccoulson | hehe | 15:09 |
| Chipaca | asac: the regression, to me, was rather that dpgk-reconfigure fontconfig-config stopped working (without the option disappearing, which would've pointed me at /etc/fonts faster than otherwise) | 15:10 |
| asac | Chipaca: yeah. that a cleanup thing. the debconf stuff isnt in the package anymore | 15:10 |
| asac | Chipaca: can you file bug? | 15:10 |
| Chipaca | asac: no, sorry | 15:11 |
| Chipaca | asac: :-P of course! | 15:11 |
| asac | hehe | 15:11 |
| asac | thanks | 15:11 |
| chrisccoulson | bratsche - that works ok now. I attached a screenshot to the bug report | 15:17 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: Nice, thanks! | 15:17 |
| chrisccoulson | the title bar could probably use an icon though | 15:18 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: Did you try to do Open or Reveal and see if they still work right? | 15:20 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll try that in a second. also, the dialog appears on top of all the other windows | 15:21 |
| bratsche | Oh yeah.. that's right. I'll fix that now. | 15:21 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks :) | 15:21 |
| chrisccoulson | bratsche - the buttons work ok too | 15:22 |
| chrisccoulson | although the naming confuses me slightly. i expected "Open" to open the file I just sent, but it actually opens the folder it was sent to. "Reveal" opens the file | 15:23 |
| crevette | this is inverted | 15:24 |
| crevette | chrisccoulson, actually reveal should pen the folder and open, shuld open the file | 15:24 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems to be the other way around ;) | 15:24 |
| crevette | chrisccoulson, I know the upstream code, I didi it | 15:25 |
| bratsche | Did I mess something up? | 15:25 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems you got them swapped round in the case statement bratsche | 15:25 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell: | 15:27 |
| seb128 | http://download.gnome.org/sources/libunique/1.0/libunique-1.0.8.tar.gz | 15:27 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson, crevette: Thanks.. fixed and posted a new patch. | 15:27 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/CheckingLibrarySymbols | 15:36 |
| chrisccoulson | bratsche - i tested your revised patch | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | the actions work correctly now, but the dialog still appears in front of the other windows though | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | that might be a wm bug though | 15:52 |
| bratsche | Hmm, weird.. I set focus_on_map = FALSE | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | i modified it slightly too by adding a gtk_window_set_icon_name, to give the dialog an icon | 15:53 |
| bratsche | Great | 15:53 |
| bratsche | Feel free to attach your diff there if you'd like.. or did you make a bzr branch? | 15:53 |
| chrisccoulson | it's just a diff. i can attach that there now | 15:55 |
| asac | mvo_: i think we have a potential fix for the NM upgrade crashes and maybe even reconnects | 16:04 |
| asac | mvo_: we would need to force a SRU fix on intrepid side before though ... is that something we can hint in update-manager? | 16:05 |
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| chrisccoulson | anyone using dmraid in here? | 16:12 |
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| chrisccoulson | seb128 - bug 347005 - are you using the human icon theme? | 16:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 347005 in gnome-media "gnome-volume-control-settings: no application icon" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/347005 | 16:24 |
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| seb128 | chrisccoulson: yes | 16:28 |
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| chrisccoulson | the dialog seems to behave the same as pavucontrol, where it displays a generic icon depending on the input stream, as opposed to showing the application icon | 16:29 |
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| chrisccoulson | it seems that human is missing those icons | 16:29 |
| chrisccoulson | the theme i'm using has those icons, which is why i don't see it | 16:29 |
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| seb128 | chrisccoulson: ok, shouldn't it fallback to gnome or hicolor | 16:30 |
| seb128 | or those doesn't have the icon either? | 16:30 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems they don't provide it either. perhaps gnome-media should ship a fallback in hicolor | 16:31 |
| seb128 | right | 16:32 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems the icon name comes from pulseaudio | 16:32 |
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| dobey | bah | 16:38 |
| dobey | oh, that icon | 16:39 |
| cj | any of you folks seen an intrepid .vhd floating around anywhere? | 16:39 |
| dobey | what icon name is it looking for? | 16:39 |
| dobey | the rhythmbox app icon should be in hicolor | 16:39 |
| chrisccoulson | good question dobey. the icon name comes from PA_PROP_MEDIA_ICON_NAME | 16:40 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm testing a patch that prefers the applications own icon | 16:40 |
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| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i think that gnome-media bug is actually a theme problem. i'm just looking at the pulseuadio documentation, and the icon name should be the mimetype icons, with an example icon name "audio-x-mp3" | 16:48 |
| chrisccoulson | it looks easy to make it choose the window icon name though, if you would prefer that | 16:48 |
| seb128 | right | 16:49 |
| seb128 | have to go | 16:49 |
| seb128 | bbl | 16:49 |
| asac | actually something bad happend to my top gnome panel today | 16:59 |
| asac | its not at the top anymore | 16:59 |
| asac | but on the bottom | 16:59 |
| asac | anyone seen this? | 17:00 |
| asac | also the preferences dialog doesnt help | 17:00 |
| asac | it always goes back to "bottom" | 17:00 |
| rickspencer3 | asac: perhaps gravity is stronger around your monitor, like some kind of black hole is pulling the panel down? | 17:02 |
| rickspencer3 | or maybe the adhesive for the panel is defective? | 17:02 |
| asac | haha | 17:05 |
| asac | for a moment i thought i opted into a UI design experiment or something as my top panel now overlays my "auto hiding" bottom panel :) | 17:06 |
| mvo_ | asac: re network-manager - we can enforce the update, not sure if its worth it though | 17:10 |
| asac | mvo_: well. its a crash of Network during upgrade | 17:16 |
| asac | thats bad user experience | 17:16 |
| asac | if its not hard to add the hook lets check if the patch fixes it and make a SRU | 17:16 |
| asac | if you force it or not is your decision ;) | 17:16 |
| bryce | asac: vaguely... | 17:17 |
| mvo_ | asac: right, I think we definitely want to SRU it, forcing it is not trivial because of e.g. people doing networkless cdrom upgrades | 17:19 |
| asac | bryce: are we doing anything special with the MISC extension? | 17:20 |
| asac | is it installed by default or not? | 17:20 |
| asac | mvo_: does update-manager already check that all updates are installed before upgradeing? | 17:20 |
| bryce | asac: $ grep -i misc /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 17:20 |
| bryce | /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, | 17:20 |
| bryce | [ 0.458795] (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC | 17:20 |
| bryce | asac: so looks like it's built-in to the server | 17:21 |
| mvo_ | asac: no, it does not enforce this | 17:23 |
| asac | mvo_: it doesnt even check whether system is up-to-date? | 17:24 |
| mvo_ | asac: it could easily, but it does not currently | 17:25 |
| mvo_ | asac: we do recommend it strongly in the release/upgrade notes | 17:25 |
| mvo_ | maybe its time to enforce it | 17:25 |
| asac | mvo_: i would think that makes sense. at least for online upgrades | 17:26 |
| asac | mvo_: maybe not enforce that -updates is enabled | 17:26 |
| asac | but if it is, run the upgrade | 17:26 |
| * mvo_ nods | 17:28 | |
| Nafallo | you guys know compiz is leaking memory, yea? | 17:28 |
| asac | Nafallo: obviously, we want to help the economy to sell more memory ... | 17:29 |
| Nafallo | well. don't tempt me helping the undertakers... ;-) | 17:30 |
| Nafallo | Mem: 3914164k total, 3560988k used, 353176k free, 110504k buffers | 17:30 |
| Nafallo | Swap: 4000144k total, 0k used, 4000144k free, 1770028k cached | 17:30 |
| Nafallo | also, I can't fit more memory ;-) | 17:30 |
| asac | i am one of the major supporters of that approach with firefox ;) | 17:30 |
| asac | Nafallo: are you sure its compiz not plain Xorg? | 17:31 |
| Nafallo | asac: was that a "yes, distro knows about it"? :-) | 17:31 |
| asac | or driver | 17:31 |
| Nafallo | I can see the compiz.real process abusing my memory. not sure at all why, and don't know how to debug it. | 17:31 |
| Nafallo | 880m 276m 8940 S 1 7.2 3:24.23 compiz.real | 17:31 |
| Nafallo | yesterday it was using over 3G VIRT :-P | 17:32 |
| pitti | good bye everyone, have a nice weekend | 17:32 |
| asac | pitti: enjoy | 17:32 |
| Nafallo | pitti: see you soon :-) | 17:32 |
| Nafallo | 3100m 582m 3708 S 1 15.2 21:51.97 compiz.real <-- yesterday | 17:33 |
| asac | 8716 asac 20 0 27620 18m 6488 S 0 0.9 1:06.44 compiz.real | 17:33 |
| asac | mine is kind of tiny | 17:33 |
| Nafallo | asac: x86_64? | 17:33 |
| asac | no | 17:33 |
| asac | 32bit | 17:33 |
| Nafallo | I'm on x86_64 | 17:33 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 17:33 |
| asac | compiz still doesnt work on my officiall supported ATI card ;) | 17:33 |
| asac | Nafallo: i booted today like 10 hours ago or so | 17:35 |
| asac | your thing was on CPU for 20 hours more ;) | 17:36 |
| Nafallo | up 9:04 | 17:36 |
| asac | hmm | 17:36 |
| asac | odd | 17:36 |
| Nafallo | compiz with "extra" :-) | 17:36 |
| asac | minutes i guess ;) | 17:36 |
| bratsche | Is update-manager still the module that does the update stuff? The UI is totally different so I'm not sure if I'm even using the same thing. | 18:00 |
| asac | bryce: update-manager is it | 18:28 |
| asac | bratsche: ^^ | 18:28 |
| asac | what do you mean by "its different"? | 18:29 |
| bratsche | Nevermind.. it was update-notifier. | 18:30 |
| bratsche | I just wanted to file a small bug.. the download dialog has "Cancel" and "Close" buttons, and both are using the "_C" keyboard accelerator. | 18:31 |
| mvo_ | bratsche: it has cancel and close? could you make a screenshot, I'm not sure where at the moment | 18:58 |
| bratsche | mvo_: Sure.. | 18:59 |
| bratsche | http://www.gnome.org/~bratsche/update-manager.png | 19:00 |
| bratsche | mvo_: ^^ | 19:00 |
| mvo_ | thanks | 19:00 |
| mvo_ | that is kde, right? | 19:00 |
| bratsche | No | 19:00 |
| mvo_ | packagekit? | 19:00 |
| mvo_ | sorry, that is not update-manager, but something else | 19:01 |
| bratsche | Oh, is that packagekit? | 19:01 |
| bratsche | My mistake. | 19:01 |
| mvo_ | np | 19:02 |
| Laney | hggdh: How do I test libpst? | 19:07 |
| hggdh | Laney, you can run readpst against an Outlook PST file; to test it with Evolution we need Evo rebuilt with my patches | 19:08 |
| Laney | right. Then evo will detect the presence of libpst and offer to import from it? | 19:09 |
| hggdh | yes. The way upstream did it, libpst (actually, libpst-dev) must be available at build time | 19:10 |
| Laney | uhm | 19:10 |
| hggdh | Laney, you can get a sample PST (if you do not have one) here: http://www.nabble.com/attachment/21537232/0/chris.pst | 19:10 |
| Laney | so libpst will need to be in main? | 19:10 |
| Laney | (thanks) | 19:10 |
| hggdh | I think so. My original idea was to get it first approved, then add in a MIR for it. | 19:10 |
| Laney | right, well that's a separate step | 19:12 |
| hggdh | that's what I thought,, yes | 19:12 |
| Laney | hggdh: Where did you get the "any later version" from for the copyright file? | 19:32 |
| Laney | I can see one file that specifies that but the rest don't say | 19:32 |
| hggdh | yes, it sucks. | 19:38 |
| Laney | so we can't assume that | 19:39 |
| Laney | I'm going to change it, ok? | 19:39 |
| hggdh | Laney, I got it from upstream as they had it. I then compared the licences with the original Debian package, and they pretty much said the same | 19:39 |
| Laney | Debian doesn't have the any later versions bit | 19:39 |
| hggdh | also, upstream told me they have been trying to contact the original coders, but they are nowhere to be found | 19:40 |
| hggdh | I did not know what to do, so I left it the way it was | 19:40 |
| hggdh | well, Debian is code-based on a 200-few release... no developments since they split | 19:41 |
| hggdh | Laney, of course you can change it | 19:42 |
| Laney | If it doesn't explicitly allow the relicensing for later versions then you can't assume it | 19:42 |
| Laney | (AIUI) | 19:42 |
| hggdh | I agree. I did not know what to do, so I left it | 19:42 |
| hggdh | (please keep in mind that this was my first-packaging-from-scratch ever... I expected I would do something wrong...) | 19:44 |
| Laney | it's fine, these are minor | 19:45 |
| MacSlow | pitti, I'll do the tarball release now ... had to wait for some commits from dbarth | 19:52 |
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| Laney | hggdh: OK uploading | 20:00 |
| Laney | I also removed the conflicts and changed the priorities to optional fyi | 20:01 |
| hggdh | Laney, what conflicts? | 20:07 |
| hggdh | and, for the priority... I did not know what to put there... | 20:08 |
| Laney | hggdh: You had conflicts on earlier versions of the package | 20:11 |
| Laney | which is a bit pointless | 20:11 |
| Laney | and "optional" is a standard priority | 20:11 |
| Laney | uploaded now anyhow | 20:12 |
| hggdh | ah, OK. I really do not know what I was thinking (if at all) when I conflicted against itself :-( | 20:13 |
| Laney | guh I wrote extra instead of optional in the changelog | 20:16 |
| Laney | oh well | 20:16 |
| Laney | thanks for your work! | 20:18 |
| hggdh | :-) Laney, thank you, my pleasure. (I actually feel not so bad on my mistakes, given you also had one ;-) | 20:22 |
| Laney | :( | 20:22 |
| hggdh | Laney, a question: should I go ahead and open a MIR for it? | 20:22 |
| Laney | you better speak to seb about that | 20:22 |
| hggdh | roger, wico | 20:22 |
| hggdh | wilco | 20:22 |
| hggdh | ah | 20:22 |
| hggdh | I also have a debdiff for Evolution to work with libpst | 20:22 |
| hggdh | what should be done with that? | 20:23 |
| Laney | needs libpst to be in main too | 20:23 |
| Laney | first* | 20:23 |
| hggdh | k | 20:23 |
| hggdh | thank you for your time on that | 20:24 |
| Laney | no worries | 20:24 |
| Laney | the binaries will need releasing from NEW too | 20:24 |
| hggdh | sorry, Laney, I do not understand what you meant above | 20:29 |
| Laney | because you created new packages | 20:29 |
| Laney | they need to be manually reviewed | 20:29 |
| hggdh | ah, OK | 20:29 |
| Laney | uh, nice crash | 20:56 |
| Laney | Someone want to try and repro this: switch to an empty workspace (no windows) and hit alt-tab | 20:56 |
| Laney | I'm running metacity + metacity compositor, don't know who's to blame | 20:56 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't confirm your crash Laney | 21:00 |
| Laney | ok | 21:00 |
| Laney | I installed symbols | 21:01 |
| chrisccoulson | is it metacity crashing (I missed that bit of the conversation) | 21:01 |
| Laney | will get a trace in a sec | 21:01 |
| Laney | yes | 21:01 |
| chrisccoulson | i just tried it on the guest account with metacity+compositing and couldn't recreate it | 21:01 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm being asked to reboot but i don't think i dare! | 21:02 |
| chrisccoulson | can anyone think why the gnome-volume-control-pulse binary package from gnome-media wouldn't get stripped to produce a gnome-volume-control-pulse-dbgsym package, when all of gnome-media's other packages were stripped? | 21:15 |
| chrisccoulson | well, it's been stripped, but no extra package created | 21:16 |
| Laney | ffs | 21:18 |
| chrisccoulson | ? | 21:18 |
| Laney | now apport doesn't come up | 21:18 |
| Amaranth | chrisccoulson: The dbdsym package is supposed to be generated automatically by that ddebs repo | 21:18 |
| chrisccoulson | Amaranth - thanks:) | 21:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm trying to build it locally in pbuilder now with pkg-create-dbgsym as an extra build dependency to see if it creates the dbgsym package here | 21:19 |
| Laney | this is also a fun bug that I just found | 21:19 |
| Laney | move gnome-terminal under the top panel | 21:19 |
| Laney | so you can still see part of it | 21:19 |
| Laney | and try and resize from the bottom | 21:19 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't get gnome-terminal to even go under the top panel;) | 21:20 |
| chrisccoulson | that's with trying to drag it whilst holding down the alt key | 21:20 |
| Laney | does for me :O | 21:20 |
| chrisccoulson | Amaranth - it builds the dbgsym package locally here, so it probably hasn't made it in to the ddebs repo yet, because it's a new binary package | 21:21 |
| chrisccoulson | yay:D | 21:21 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney - i'll try with metacity in a sec;) | 21:21 |
| Laney | cool | 21:22 |
| chrisccoulson | tut tut - these inferior window managers causing all this strange behaviour;) | 21:22 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 21:22 |
| Laney | what are you on? | 21:22 |
| Laney | xmonad?! | 21:22 |
| chrisccoulson | it's a secret;) | 21:23 |
| chrisccoulson | i can get the terminal to go under the top panel with metacity | 21:23 |
| chrisccoulson | what problem were you seeing? | 21:23 |
| Laney | click on the bottom border | 21:24 |
| Laney | as if you were to resize | 21:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i see - the titlebar context menu appears and it won't resize | 21:24 |
| Laney | yep | 21:24 |
| chrisccoulson | that's probably a metacity bug then ;) | 21:25 |
| Laney | sure is | 21:25 |
| Laney | shall report it soon | 21:25 |
| Laney | chrisccoulson: bug 349925 - fun crash! | 21:59 |
| ubottu | Bug 349925 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/349925 is private | 21:59 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't access it yet;) | 21:59 |
| chrisccoulson | did you only just submit it? | 21:59 |
| Laney | oh | 21:59 |
| Laney | yeah, let me make it public | 22:00 |
| Laney | thought you had powers | 22:00 |
| chrisccoulson | i think it takes a few minutes for all the right teams to be subscribed | 22:00 |
| chrisccoulson | i can normally view private reports | 22:00 |
| Laney | ah well | 22:01 |
| Laney | it's not that interesting ;) | 22:01 |
| * Laney files the other metacity one | 22:01 | |
| Laney | hmm | 22:22 |
| Laney | Why no metacity 2.26 yet? | 22:23 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney - i can see your metacity bug now ;) | 22:28 |
| Laney | woop woop | 22:28 |
| Laney | just upstreamed the other one | 22:28 |
| Laney | shall do this now | 22:28 |
| chrisccoulson | it must just take a little while for the ubuntu-crashes-universe team to be subscribed | 22:29 |
| Laney | which lets other people see it? | 22:29 |
| Laney | members of that team, I guess | 22:29 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, there are lots of teams that are a member of that team i think | 22:30 |
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