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| pitti | hello | 13:59 |
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| robbiew | hi :) | 13:59 |
| fader_ | howdy | 13:59 |
| * lool waves | 13:59 | |
| lool | slangasek: morning! | 13:59 |
| slangasek | morning | 13:59 |
| mdz | good morning | 14:00 |
| ScottK | \o <--- Here after all ($WORK meeting cancelled). | 14:00 |
| heno | morning | 14:00 |
| * sbeattie waves | 14:00 | |
| cjwatson | hiya | 14:01 |
| slangasek | pgraner, davidm, Riddell, Hobbsee: ping | 14:01 |
| pgraner | slangasek: here | 14:02 |
| slangasek | hi :) | 14:02 |
| ScottK | slangasek: 56 minutes ago Riddell said he'd be out for an hour on #kubuntu-devel. | 14:02 |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 14:02 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 09:02. The chair is slangasek. | 14:02 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 14:02 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2009-03-27 | 14:02 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2009-03-27 | 14:02 |
| slangasek | ScottK: ok | 14:02 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Outstanding actions | 14:03 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Outstanding actions | 14:03 |
| slangasek | just a few straggler items here | 14:04 |
| slangasek | lool: 303232 - will you have a chance to open the per-lib tasks, or should I go ahead and do it? | 14:04 |
| lool | slangasek: I did, sent you the list | 14:05 |
| slangasek | and do you guys need help with the actual lib changes? | 14:05 |
| lool | slangasek: I'm disappointed your not procmail-ing to your dreams! | 14:05 |
| lool | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arm-vfp | 14:05 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arm-vfp | 14:05 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arm-vfp | 14:05 |
| lool | slangasek: Well in theory no, in practice help is welcome | 14:05 |
| slangasek | ah, separate bugs - these aren't targeted to jaunty yet? | 14:06 |
| lool | oh no, will milestone them now, sorry | 14:07 |
| slangasek | I was assuming the gcc-4.3 task on bug #303232 should be closed once those lib tasks are open | 14:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 303232 in gcc-4.3 "armel gcc default optimisations" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303232 | 14:07 |
| lool | slangasek: I think I'll unmilestone it and make it a bug to discuss gcc opts for karmic | 14:07 |
| * slangasek nods | 14:07 | |
| lool | Ah the gcc one is unmilestoned | 14:08 |
| lool | Can't untrack it for jaunty | 14:08 |
| slangasek | lool: 'wontfix' the jaunty task | 14:08 |
| lool | thanks | 14:08 |
| slangasek | pgraner: you said apw and pitti were working on the kernel suspend/resume tagging - is there a bug number for tracking that? | 14:08 |
| pitti | apw just said he'll file one with what needs to be changed | 14:09 |
| pgraner | slangasek: I should have it in a few minutes, I'll send it over to you | 14:09 |
| slangasek | ok | 14:09 |
| pitti | should by done by next week | 14:09 |
| slangasek | last item on the list is mine; we got the CDs back down to size for beta through a combination of langpack rebasing and more heroic efforts by seb128, but we're not really any closer to having a good way to track where our CD space went in the first place | 14:10 |
| seb128 | slangasek: I would bet on GNOME translated documentations | 14:11 |
| seb128 | ie extra localized screenshots | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | would it help to get cd-size-analysis fixed not to need packages still in cdimage's mirror? | 14:11 |
| lool | (vfp bugs milestoned and targetted to jaunty) | 14:11 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: yes; I'm going to spend some quality time with the build logs early next week to see if I can extract all the information I need for this | 14:11 |
| slangasek | lool: thanks | 14:11 |
| slangasek | so that's it for carry-overs | 14:12 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Future issues expected to impact the release | 14:13 |
| apw | slangasek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/349621 | 14:13 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Future issues expected to impact the release | 14:13 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 349621 in apport "real kerneloops and suspend/hibernate/resume bugs are hard to separate" [Undecided,New] | 14:13 |
| slangasek | apw: great, thanks | 14:13 |
| ScottK | I just milestoned a new bug, Bug #348704, since (that I know of) it breaks update-notifier-kde for upgraders. | 14:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 348704 in python-qt4 "/var/lib/python-support/python2.6/dbus/mainloop/qt.so missing after upgrade" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348704 | 14:13 |
| slangasek | OMG, who put bug #1 back on the jaunty list | 14:13 |
| ubottu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) | 14:13 |
| ScottK | It's got me flumoxed, so I'd appreciate it if someone like doko or maybe mvo_ could have a look. | 14:14 |
| slangasek | mvo_: do you have time to look at that? | 14:15 |
| * slangasek targets the bug as well | 14:16 | |
| pitti | nothing new for that topic from desktop, for the record (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus is up to date) | 14:16 |
| slangasek | ScottK: you also brought up clamav as an issue. Do we need to talk about that further here? | 14:16 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 14:16 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 14:16 |
| ScottK | It's an issue. | 14:16 |
| ScottK | I'm afraid we may have to choose between releasing with an oboslete clamav or with some broken rdepends. | 14:17 |
| ScottK | Given what it does, not releasing with the current one is not good. | 14:17 |
| cjwatson | how obsolete is obsolete? | 14:17 |
| pitti | ScottK: how often does clamav break ABI? | 14:18 |
| pitti | ScottK: IOW, if we'd need to do another update for jaunty-updates, would we need to go through that rdepends rebuild dance again, or was it more like an one-time change? | 14:18 |
| ScottK | cjwatson: one major version (0.94.2 versus 0.95) behind. I can (but haven't) quantified how many virus types we'll miss | 14:18 |
| ScottK | pitti: Every major version they break it. | 14:18 |
| ScottK | They did sort of promise this is the last time and they've never done that before. | 14:19 |
| ScottK | All the libclamav rdepends do need changes to work with 0.95. All the clamd users are fine. | 14:19 |
| ScottK | I should know by the middle of next week better where we are. | 14:20 |
| slangasek | on the flip side of pitti's question, we have tracked clamav in -backports in the past rather than in -updates, so if the reverse-deps couldn't catch up it's not as though we don't have a way to make 0.95 available to jaunty users? | 14:20 |
| ScottK | That's true. | 14:21 |
| ScottK | We have also pushed -backports to -security when the time came to keep the maintenance burden manageable (only in Universe). | 14:21 |
| mvo_ | slangasek: I can have a look at the python-qt4 issue | 14:21 |
| mvo_ | (I guess I'm as busy as everyone else) | 14:22 |
| ScottK | I have a plan for the tech board on my TODO to write up about that .... | 14:22 |
| slangasek | ScottK: I'm happy to let you make the decision regarding which way we go on the obsolete vs. rdeps question; let us know next week what we can do to help? | 14:22 |
| cjwatson | python-qt4> doko is away for a few days unfortunately | 14:22 |
| * slangasek nods | 14:22 | |
| slangasek | mvo_: ok, subscribed you | 14:22 |
| ScottK | slangasek: OK. Thanks. | 14:22 |
| slangasek | ScottK: any other things to discuss while you have the floor? | 14:23 |
| ScottK | KDE 4.2.2 was tagged yesterday. | 14:24 |
| ScottK | It'll get released ~tuesday next week. | 14:24 |
| slangasek | sounds good | 14:24 |
| ScottK | They've been very good about bugfix only in the third digit updates, so we're operating on the assumption this goes in. | 14:24 |
| ScottK | That's it. | 14:24 |
| * slangasek nods | 14:24 | |
| cjwatson | I have a concern I'd like to raise, from while I was thinking about release notes | 14:24 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: go ahead | 14:24 |
| cjwatson | I went and looked at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 last night and noticed that there are at least some things there that we never properly targeted to jaunty and haven't fixed | 14:25 |
| cjwatson | I think we should make a systematic effort to ensure that everything fixable there gets fixed | 14:25 |
| mdz | cjwatson: good call | 14:25 |
| slangasek | (after cjwatson, I'll do around the rest of the teams in a circle to make sure everyone has a chance to comment) | 14:25 |
| cjwatson | bug 290234 was the one I particularly noticed, though I've pushed up a branch fixing that one for mvo's review | 14:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 290234 in apt "Intrepid: Netboot locks up at 2% installing the selected edubuntu desktop" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290234 | 14:25 |
| slangasek | s/do around/go around/ | 14:25 |
| mdz | cjwatson: can we put that onto a checklist somewhere so that release noted items for release x get targeted for x+1 as SOP? | 14:25 |
| cjwatson | mdz: good idea, I'll put it on NewReleaseCycleProcess | 14:26 |
| slangasek | [ACTION] cjwatson to document release-targeting of previous release release-notes items for NewReleaseCycleProcess | 14:26 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: cjwatson to document release-targeting of previous release release-notes items for NewReleaseCycleProcess | 14:26 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: since you're already partway through, can you also take care of finishing the release notes review in this case and targeting anything else that's outstanding? | 14:27 |
| cjwatson | suckered | 14:27 |
| cjwatson | ok | 14:27 |
| cjwatson | (I've done the NewReleaseCycleProcess change) | 14:27 |
| slangasek | [ACTION] cjwatson to complete review of 8.10 release notes to identify jaunty targets | 14:27 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: cjwatson to complete review of 8.10 release notes to identify jaunty targets | 14:27 |
| cjwatson | is there any other similar list of major issues that we might have forgotten about? | 14:28 |
| slangasek | not that I'm aware of | 14:28 |
| slangasek | I have been sucking in the technical overview errata after each milestone | 14:29 |
| sbeattie | bugs tagged regression-release, perhaps. | 14:29 |
| sbeattie | (though alas the current set needs more triage, as I've been focusing on the regression-potential tagged bugs) | 14:30 |
| slangasek | sbeattie: can you triage them and let us know about any that need targeting yet, or should we get more hands on triaging? | 14:31 |
| sbeattie | I'll talk with the rest of the QA team about getting more triage love for them. | 14:31 |
| sbeattie | feel free to action me on tha.t | 14:32 |
| slangasek | [ACTION] sbeattie to follow up with QA team about getting attention on the regression-release bugs | 14:32 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: sbeattie to follow up with QA team about getting attention on the regression-release bugs | 14:32 |
| sistpoty|work | maybe some announcement regarding regression-{potential,release} might refresh memory of some devs? (/me included *g*) | 14:32 |
| sbeattie | sistpoty|work: okay; heno did one recently, I thought, but we can do it again. | 14:33 |
| sistpoty|work | sbeattie: :) | 14:33 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] QA team | 14:33 |
| MootBot | New Topic: QA team | 14:33 |
| * heno nods - let's do that | 14:33 | |
| slangasek | sbeattie, fader, heno: anything else we need to discuss from your corner? | 14:33 |
| fader_ | I just want to mention that we got a large number of 'failed' results in the most recent hardware tests, but it's because there's a checkbox test breaking | 14:34 |
| sbeattie | also as a reminder, I have been assigning regression-potential bugs to teams; please look at the team-assigned reports at http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/ | 14:34 |
| slangasek | fader_: noted, thanks | 14:34 |
| fader_ | There's a bug on it and it should be resolved pretty quickly but I didn't want anyone to panic when looking at the report :) | 14:34 |
| pitti | fader_: do you guys have some hardware with intel 8x5 chips, with x == {4,5,6}? | 14:34 |
| fader_ | pitti: Is this about the X issues that Bryce is working on? | 14:35 |
| pitti | fader_: right, -intel driver not working on some/all i845/i855 | 14:35 |
| slangasek | bug #304871 | 14:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 304871 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i845G] Fatal server error: Couldn't bind memory for BO front buffer (Jaunty)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/304871 | 14:35 |
| slangasek | ScottK's feedback was that the problem was resolved for him with the beta | 14:35 |
| ScottK | pitti: From last week's meeting I did test with i865 and it WFM. | 14:35 |
| fader_ | pitti: I'm looking through the hardware list to find the machines that have those chipsets, as we don't currently have a good automated way to find that out | 14:36 |
| pitti | fader_: many thanks | 14:36 |
| fader_ | I'll coordinate with him to get him that list and any other details he needs | 14:36 |
| fader_ | np :) | 14:36 |
| heno | We expect a spike in bug reports after Beta and would appreciate it everyone gave and hand in triaging new bugs | 14:37 |
| heno | we will focus mainly on that next week | 14:38 |
| rickspencer3 | heno: any particular areas that would most helpful to look at? | 14:38 |
| heno | bdmurray is preparing a list of 'bugs filed since beta' | 14:38 |
| heno | rickspencer3: first of all bugs for packages each person cares about | 14:38 |
| pitti | noted | 14:39 |
| heno | the installer usually gets a fresh influx too | 14:39 |
| heno | (that's it from QA) | 14:39 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Mobile team | 14:40 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Mobile team | 14:40 |
| slangasek | (pitti already said 'nothing new for desktop' :) | 14:40 |
| slangasek | lool: anything you need to raise? | 14:40 |
| lool | (may I dump my usual status?) | 14:40 |
| slangasek | yes | 14:40 |
| lool | list of specs and bugs on our radar <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Roadmap>; current high-level status per topic: | 14:41 |
| lool | - UNR good shape except for intel graphics regression on eeepcs (349314, 344443) | 14:41 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Roadmap | 14:41 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Roadmap | 14:41 |
| cjwatson | lool: I'm aware that there are quite a few things where the mobile team is waiting for foundations to fix stuff, and I'd like to make sure nothing is slipping through the cracks. Is MobileTeam/Roadmap the thing we should be monitoring? | 14:41 |
| lool | pgraner: Mind if I milestone that linux bug for jaunty? | 14:41 |
| cjwatson | lool: alternatively, if you routinely target the relevant bugs to jaunty, that's fine too | 14:41 |
| lool | cjwatson: It's a good mean to put things on our radar | 14:41 |
| lool | cjwatson: So happy if you put something there which we should keep an eye on | 14:41 |
| cjwatson | lool: no, I meant the other way round | 14:42 |
| cjwatson | lool: things that are already on your radar that should be on ours | 14:42 |
| lool | cjwatson: Then no, it's where we track what we have to do | 14:42 |
| lool | cjwatson: I guess we should use bugs and subscribe to them ourselves when we're blocked by foundation stuff | 14:42 |
| pgraner | lool: yea milestone it | 14:42 |
| cjwatson | in that case, if you could target relevant bugs to jaunty, that's the best way to make sure we don't forget | 14:42 |
| lool | It's a good question, we often wonder how to track e.g. a kernel issue which affects the team which we'd like to keep an eye on but we can't do anything about ourselves | 14:43 |
| cjwatson | lool: for example, should bug 347350 be RC for jaunty? | 14:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 347350 in oem-config "oem-config-firstboot does not fit in 1024x600" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/347350 | 14:43 |
| lool | cjwatson: Well I was personally reluctant to push for too high standards in screen resolution, but that's my personal position; it would be high on our list of things we'd like to see fixed on jaunty though | 14:43 |
| lool | (general focus on playing nicer with small screens basically) | 14:44 |
| cjwatson | I'll target it and leave a comment to that effect | 14:44 |
| lool | pgraner: thanks, done | 14:44 |
| lool | cjwatson: I'm happy to comment on any bugs where you need guidance on priority/importance, or raise them in my team | 14:44 |
| lool | - MID image is okay-ish; needed extra care for beta | 14:44 |
| lool | - armel netbook images: pretty bad beta outcome with versatile and iop32x broken | 14:45 |
| lool | , so only ixp4xx to release; imx51 netboot will be added with next d-i upload | 14:45 |
| lool | - armel's "iMX51 Babbage": first image released in beta required extra hacks; working on merging everything in archive; lots of hardware support issues with the kernel which need FSL patches (wired network, USB, wifi); need testplan | 14:45 |
| lool | - VFP libs, NEON: in progress; list of bugs covered earlier | 14:45 |
| lool | - other milestoned bugs: generally coming back to focusing on them after the bab | 14:45 |
| lool | bage/beta push | 14:45 |
| lool | - Poulsbo drivers: late, no progress yet on finding out why the intrepid drivers don't work for us but work for Intel; looking harder and harder to get in jaunty; Intel claimed they targetted mesa 7.3, so a mesa update at this point could i | 14:45 |
| lool | n theory impact these drivers, but given that's 7.3 => dev and 7.4 => stable it's not supposed to | 14:45 |
| lool | (sorry vim is unhappy today) | 14:45 |
| lool | - touchscreen support: ogra didn't have time to work on this due to babbage, and we lack support for a bunch of them | 14:45 |
| slangasek | lool: what kind of 'not work' did you get with poulsbo? | 14:46 |
| lool | http://paste.ubuntu.com/138987/ is the same dump, but readable | 14:46 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://paste.ubuntu.com/138987/ is the same dump, but readable | 14:46 |
| lool | slangasek: StevenK says the GL support doesn't work at all; Intel says it does | 14:46 |
| lool | Like glxgears not even working | 14:47 |
| slangasek | ok | 14:47 |
| lool | I'm a bit worried that we're at that point for the drivers | 14:47 |
| slangasek | just asking because mythbuntu was having issues with mesa, superm1 uploaded a fix to revert a couple of patches post-beta | 14:47 |
| slangasek | but it doesn't sound like it's related | 14:47 |
| lool | No, I'm mentionning the state of intrepid | 14:48 |
| slangasek | oh, ok | 14:48 |
| lool | Because the packaging was supposed to be copied from the intrepid one when complete | 14:48 |
| slangasek | right | 14:48 |
| lool | So the chain of actions which would give us jaunty drivers is a bit scary: a) fix 3D b) agree on way forward for jaunty packaging (stevenk/bryce) c) push to jaunty and test | 14:49 |
| slangasek | right | 14:49 |
| lool | However on the mesa side, it's not looking happy with DRI ATM | 14:49 |
| lool | This is not really related to mobile, but elisa upstream contacted me about a regression in mesa which is fixed in 7.4RC2 | 14:50 |
| lool | bug #349127 | 14:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 349127 in mesa "Elisa displays video with greenish/purplish colors" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349127 | 14:50 |
| lool | And they say it affects other; I poked bryce to check whether that was worth tracking for jaunty; I personally think it is if we have a reviewable patch | 14:50 |
| * slangasek targets it to jaunty pre-emptively | 14:51 | |
| lool | are there questions from anyone with the mobile status? anything I forgot to cover? | 14:51 |
| slangasek | I think that covers it for me, thanks | 14:51 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] kernel team | 14:52 |
| MootBot | New Topic: kernel team | 14:52 |
| pgraner | slangasek: We have a Broadcomm STA driver update landing soonish that fixes lots of reported issues. | 14:52 |
| pgraner | slangasek: LP 334994 there is a race in the kernel somewhere which is tricky to trigger on real hardware which leads to the kernel not clearing down some sysfs state. | 14:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 334994 in linux "Degraded RAID boot fails: kobject_add_internal failed for dev-sda1 with -EEXIST, don't try to register things with the same name in the same directory" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334994 | 14:52 |
| slangasek | the Broadcom should already be in, I think | 14:52 |
| pgraner | slangasek: apw is on the RAID one | 14:53 |
| apw | ack | 14:53 |
| * slangasek nods | 14:53 | |
| pgraner | other than those its the usual ARM goodness | 14:53 |
| pgraner | Thats it for kernel team | 14:54 |
| lool | pgraner: In general, babbage status is pretty bad kernel side | 14:54 |
| slangasek | bug #343254, hmm, didn't I see that discussed in the linux changelog? | 14:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 343254 in linux "pulseaudio: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_avail_update() returned a value that is exceptionally large" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/343254 | 14:54 |
| lool | I know kernel team is waiting for FSL patches, but I jsut want to raise it that we really care a lot if you can get them in | 14:54 |
| pgraner | lool: hense my comment about ARM | 14:54 |
| lool | pgraner: Yup, echo-ing your concerns with my specific issues :) | 14:54 |
| pgraner | lool: Freescale is the issue unfortunately | 14:55 |
| lool | Ack; I think with the beta image we have a better basis to demo our problems | 14:55 |
| lool | The other non-FSL thing would be the versatile image which was broken just before beta | 14:56 |
| lool | I don't know whether it's worth fighting apparmor there; I don't think it ever worked for us there; happy if you fix it but I don't mind disabling it on verstaile | 14:56 |
| pgraner | slangasek: don't know about that one, dtchen has been working it | 14:56 |
| slangasek | pgraner: yep; pinged him | 14:57 |
| lool | Hmm indeed, I'm having pulseaudio issues myself | 14:57 |
| pgraner | lool: we just got it AA working for the imx51 we'll look at it on versatile. | 14:57 |
| lool | pgraner: Yes, I think it was turned on in versatile because it was believed the fix would also allow it to work under versatile | 14:58 |
| pgraner | lool: bug number? | 14:58 |
| slangasek | versatile/apparmor is already targeted; bug #348835 | 14:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 348835 in linux "versatile: OOPS in apparmor" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348835 | 14:58 |
| lool | 348835 | 14:58 |
| pgraner | lool: ack, we'll get on it | 14:58 |
| lool | thanks | 14:59 |
| slangasek | are there any other actionable issues wrt ARM, or that we need to get on the bug list? | 14:59 |
| lool | The FSL dependent ones are not milestoned, the rest is properly milestoned | 14:59 |
| pgraner | slangasek: we are working to the bug list and working with Freescale so it will go up to kernel freeze | 15:00 |
| * slangasek nods | 15:01 | |
| slangasek | cjwatson: was there anything else we needed to discuss for foundations, or are we covered? | 15:01 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Foundations team | 15:01 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Foundations team | 15:01 |
| cjwatson | I think I covered it | 15:02 |
| slangasek | ok, thanks | 15:02 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Server team | 15:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Server team | 15:02 |
| dendrobates- | hi | 15:02 |
| slangasek | heya | 15:02 |
| dendrobates- | a couple of release critical bugs in eucalyptus. | 15:02 |
| dendrobates- | bug 347622 | 15:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 347622 in eucalyptus "in SYSTEM mode, VM ips are not automatically discovered by CC or NC on switched networks" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/347622 | 15:03 |
| dendrobates- | bug 347629 | 15:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 347629 in eucalyptus "in SYSTEM mode, CLC tries to discover elastic IPs from CC even though elastic IP support is not enabled in SYSTEM mode" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/347629 | 15:03 |
| dendrobates- | we are also watching bug 334994 which the kernel team is working on. | 15:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 334994 in linux "Degraded RAID boot fails: kobject_add_internal failed for dev-sda1 with -EEXIST, don't try to register things with the same name in the same directory" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334994 | 15:03 |
| * slangasek nods | 15:04 | |
| dendrobates- | it affects vm's, however, we are not how valid a usecase. apart from testing, software raid has in vm's | 15:04 |
| dendrobates- | That's all that new. | 15:05 |
| slangasek | ok, thanks | 15:05 |
| slangasek | I think that's it, then | 15:05 |
| slangasek | anything else from anyone? speak now or hold your peace until the same time next week | 15:05 |
| slangasek | (or until #ubuntu-devel) | 15:05 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:06 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:06. | 15:06 |
| slangasek | thanks, folks | 15:06 |
| lool | Thanks | 15:06 |
| pitti | thanks everyone | 15:07 |
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| al-maisan | hello MTecknology, how are things? | 15:52 |
| al-maisan | I am pinging you re. my membership to "Official Ubuntu Members" | 15:52 |
| MTecknology | yup, I'm here | 15:52 |
| al-maisan | I received an email suggesting to meet here | 15:53 |
| MTecknology | Just an FYI, the group membership is for official Ubuntu members only | 15:53 |
| al-maisan | sure | 15:53 |
| MTecknology | are you a member? | 15:53 |
| al-maisan | yes, I am muharem@ubuntu.com but my linkedin accont is tied to a different email | 15:54 |
| MTecknology | can you give me a link to your profile? | 15:54 |
| al-maisan | MTecknology: https://edge.launchpad.net/~al-maisan | 15:54 |
| MTecknology | I don't see you having an @ubuntu.com email addy | 15:55 |
| al-maisan | just a sec | 15:56 |
| MTecknology | al-maisan: actually, give me a minute - I'm discussing something with someone right now | 15:56 |
| al-maisan | sure | 15:56 |
| MTecknology | I've been basing it off of membership to ~ubuntumembers. You're the second canonical employee not an ubuntu member - I'm not 100% sure what I should be doing with this :P | 15:57 |
| al-maisan | OK | 15:57 |
| al-maisan | take it easy | 15:57 |
| ScottK | MTecknology: Do you have any idea how many copies of your mail some people got? | 15:58 |
| al-maisan | I assumed I am a member | 15:58 |
| MTecknology | You're approved, but I'll need to think over that whole thing again. You should apply for membership :) | 15:58 |
| MTecknology | it'll make it easier for me :) | 15:58 |
| MTecknology | ScottK: 2 should be the max, and that should only have been to a few | 15:59 |
| al-maisan | MTecknology: will do. | 15:59 |
| MTecknology | al-maisan: I assume you know where to apply at? | 15:59 |
| * al-maisan just saw this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership | 15:59 | |
| MTecknology | yup - thansk for chatting with me | 15:59 |
| ScottK | MTecknology: Three for me. | 16:00 |
| al-maisan | MTecknology: thank you. | 16:00 |
| MTecknology | ScottK: what route did they all take? :S | 16:00 |
| ScottK | MTecknology: One for Kubuntu members, one for Ubuntu members, and one for Ubuntu core-dev. | 16:02 |
| MTecknology | ScottK: .... Oh sh**. I forgot that other teams are members of the team | 16:03 |
| MTecknology | I'm going to file a bug about that happening. I'm sorry about that. | 16:03 |
| ScottK | MTecknology: Well that's fine, but I also believe you're abusing Launchpad. I think it's grossly offtopic to use the contact a user feature to promote a social network. | 16:04 |
| ScottK | I've got it on my TODO to mail you, but since I saw you here .... | 16:05 |
| MTecknology | ScottK: I was trying to figure out a better way to hit the "target market", but Icouldn't figure one out. A few people enjoyed that I did it that way actually. | 16:06 |
| ScottK | MTecknology: I think your post to planet did that fine. | 16:07 |
| MTecknology | oh | 16:07 |
| MTecknology | ScottK: I am sorry - forgive me? :) | 16:07 |
| ScottK | MTecknology: If I've got a really cool Ubunt t-shirt I want to sell to ubuntu members, is it appropriate for me to reach my target market this way? | 16:08 |
| ScottK | MTecknology: I suppose, but just understand that some people are very sensitive about unwanted intrusions in their inbox. | 16:08 |
| MTecknology | ScottK: ya. I'll think about it a little longer next time | 16:09 |
| * ScottK nods | 16:10 | |
| MTecknology | ScottK: on the other side of the fence though - it's up to 88 members now | 16:11 |
| ScottK | MTecknology: So spamming is justified based on it works? | 16:11 |
| MTecknology | ScottK: for some people that make a living off it :P - but no, that was just a side comment | 16:12 |
| MTecknology | I'll run away now | 16:12 |
| ScottK | on the other side of the fence comes across as justification to me. | 16:12 |
| ScottK | OK | 16:12 |
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