[00:00] <fta> no
[00:01] <FreeAtMind> ok
[00:01] <fta> extract the dongle, and replug it
[00:01] <FreeAtMind> i go test that now
[00:01] <FreeAtMind> i back soon
[00:02] <FreeAtMind> tanks for the tips
[00:02] <FreeAtMind> cya
[00:03] <fta> 11904 firefox-3.1                     1836   338   775   676    47 (Unknown)
[00:03] <fta> 23216 firefox-3.2                      308    25    94   162    27 (Unknown)
[00:03] <fta> 33342 firefox-3.5                       74     2     0    72     0 (Unknown)
[00:03] <fta> 37312 firefox-3.6                       41     6     0    35     0 (Unknown)
[00:03] <fta> so i guess my ppa has a lot more users than -daily
[00:04] <fta> but that's still nice for -daily though, 74, probably a lot more as we have no idea who is using popcon
[00:05] <fta> asac, ^^
[00:10] <FreeAtMind> back
[00:10] <FreeAtMind> fta is working
[00:10] <fta> great
[00:10] <fta> excellent
[00:10] <FreeAtMind> they connect smootly
[00:10] <FreeAtMind> i activate the option to connet on startup
[00:10] <FreeAtMind> an they connect ok
[00:11] <FreeAtMind> even afther a reboot
[00:12] <FreeAtMind> later on i back to give you feedback
[00:12] <fta> ok
[00:12] <FreeAtMind> in another day
[00:12] <FreeAtMind> cya a thanks
[00:12] <fta> cu
[00:21] <asac> so it works at lesat
[00:21] <asac> fta: can you drop a comment that the new rules works for you?
[00:22] <asac> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/346835/comments/11
[00:22] <asac> thats the rules i posted
[00:37] <fta> asac, it works only with n-m from the ppa, not with n-m from jaunty
[00:49] <fta> oops http://paste.ubuntu.com/138633/
[00:50] <fta> well, i'll have a closer look tomorrow
[00:50] <fta> do we need a fresher nspr?
[00:55] <fta> asac, http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/956071116564
[01:14] <asac> fta: yes. the ppa thing has huawei fixes
[01:14] <asac> anyway. off. tomorrow i will u pload new NM
[01:16] <fta> i meant, the prober in jaunty doesn't support --vid, while in the ppa, it does, so you conf + jaunty will not work, it's visible if you debug udev
[01:16] <fta> youR
 Mar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: IMPORT 'nm-modem-probe --vid 0x12d1 --pid 0x1003 --usb-interface 01 --driver option --delay 3000 --export /dev/.tmp-char-188:1' /lib/udev/rules.d/77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules:11
 Mar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: 'nm-modem-probe --vid 0x12d1 --pid 0x1003 --usb-interface 01 --driver option --delay 3000 --export /dev/.tmp-char-188:1'
 Mar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe' (stderr) '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe: unrecognized option '--vid''
 Mar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe' returned with status 1
[02:38] <[reed]> asac / fta: getting 3.0.8 ready for tomorrow?
[07:55] <alphageek> ?
[07:56] <alphageek> there is a add-on named footiefox which doesn't work with firefox in ubuntu but when i tried to use it with windows it works.
[09:24] <BUGabundo> guud morning
[09:39] <asac> [reed]: tomorrow?
[09:39] <asac> so today?
[09:39] <[reed]> asac: today
[09:39] <[reed]> yes
[09:39] <[reed]> 4pm PDT
[09:39] <asac> pfff
[09:39] <[reed]> maybe earlier
[09:39] <asac> you are really odd. we have a no-security update on friday policy
[09:39] <asac> i thought you even had that too
[09:40] <[reed]> we have a no release policy on Friday in general
[09:40] <[reed]> but for security releases, anything goes
[09:40] <[reed]> our objective is to get the fix to our users ASAP
[09:40] <asac> yes. and then you leave them with a regression over weekend
[09:40] <[reed]> holding off because it's Friday is silly
[09:41] <[reed]> if they're using Firefox, they will get updated
[09:41] <[reed]> over the weekend
[09:41] <BUGabundo> fta: did the daily gwibber broke?
[09:41] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/138835/
[09:42] <asac> [reed]: last i heard was that you released on monday ... personally i dont think its really wise to do stuff in a hurry. but well
[09:42] <asac> i will be ready then
[09:43] <[reed]> you'll be late ;)
[09:43] <[reed]> but ok
[09:43] <BUGabundo> fta https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/349462
[09:43] <asac> [reed]: why would i be late ;)?
[09:43] <asac> i will now bump up this stuff
[09:44] <fta> BUGabundo, donno.. yet
[09:44] <fta>   Installed: 1.0.1~bzr274-0ubuntu1~daily1
[09:44] <fta>   Candidate: 1.0.1~bzr276-0ubuntu1~daily1
[09:44] <[reed]> asac: you said you're going to release on Monday still?
[09:44] <[reed]> with us releasing today
[09:44] <BUGabundo> 276 here
[09:44] <asac> [reed]: no. i said that mozilla wanted to release on monday a day a ago ;)
[09:45] <fta> looks like a problem in python-gobject more than in gwibber.
[09:45] <[reed]> asac: yeah, that changed late today
[09:45] <[reed]> release team met and decided to push it up
[09:46] <asac> yeah. i can see that ;)
[09:46] <asac> nevermind
[09:46] <asac> thanks for the info ;)
[09:47] <[reed]> :)
[09:47] <BUGabundo> bbl
[09:47] <BUGabundo> going out getting supplies
[10:06] <[reed]> asac: urgency=low  for a security update?
[10:06] <[reed]> I guess I don't understand how you all decide that
[10:07] <asac> [reed]: its not used ;)
[10:07] <asac> [reed]: its about something completely different - which is not used in ubuntu
[10:07] <[reed]> ah, k
[10:07] <[reed]> ok
[10:07] <asac> in debian you upload stuff with urgency=low -> means 10 days in unstable
[10:07] <asac> with medium -> 5 days (without RC bug) in unstable
[10:07] <asac> high -> 2 days (without RC bug)
[10:07] <[reed]> ah
[10:07] <[reed]> interesting
[10:07] <asac> critical -> 1 day without RC bu
[10:07] <asac> so its just for the "unstable/sid" uploads in debian
[10:08] <[reed]> k
[10:08] <asac> we usually set urgency to critical in debian for security updates even if its for stable
[10:08] <asac> but in ubuntu we just dont use it :)
[10:08] <asac> (well at least i think)
[10:08] <asac> its definitly technically irrelevant
[10:09] <[reed]> did you mean USN-745-1
[10:09] <[reed]> instead of USB ?
[10:13] <asac> sigh
[10:15] <asac> but good catch ;)
[10:24]  * asac uploaded NM
[10:25] <asac> to ubuntu/jaunty
[10:26] <asac> hmm ... looks really unlikely we can come up with builds today
[10:26] <asac> the builders are completely busted
[10:26] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/
[10:26] <asac> ia64      241 builds waiting in queue
[10:26] <asac> amd64      34 builds waiting in queue
[10:26] <asac> lets hope
[10:27] <[reed]> shouldn't you be able to prioritize?
[10:32] <asac> yeah
[10:32] <asac> we will do that
[11:14] <asac> BUGabundo: heh. you were the first to report the python bustage ;)?
[11:14] <BUGabundo> yep
[11:14] <BUGabundo> im always there
[11:14] <BUGabundo> eheh
[11:14] <BUGabundo> just 2nd bug of the day
[11:14] <BUGabundo> and I had to leave office
[11:14] <BUGabundo> LOL
[11:14] <BUGabundo> how nice for all those new beta users!! EHEHEEH
[11:33] <asac> BUGabundo: tell them to wait a bit with filing bugs ;)
[11:34] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[11:34] <BUGabundo> I wish I could
[11:34] <BUGabundo> we will see 403 bugs too
[11:34] <asac> 403?
[11:34] <asac> HTTP status?
[11:39] <BUGabundo> files have been striped of read permittions
[12:19] <BUGabundo> asac: fta that guy from yesterday with 3g dongle e220 says it fixed for him
[12:19] <asac> yes
[12:20] <asac> hmm
[12:20] <BUGabundo> bug found
[12:20] <BUGabundo> he reports he is now getting the ISP on the wizard
[12:23] <asac> so whats the bug then?
[12:23] <BUGabundo> he went to lunch
[12:23] <BUGabundo> says will report latter
[12:24] <BUGabundo> but seems that the wizard will not provides phone companies as it used to
[12:24]  * asac lunch
[13:22] <gnomefreak> mozilla 485217
[13:42] <thunderstruck> oh fuck this
[14:18] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: language please!!!!
[14:19] <asac> yeah. otherwise we will raise a two minute ban ;)
[14:19] <gnomefreak> :)
[14:19] <asac> voluntarily ;)
[14:19] <gnomefreak> i think i got hg to work :)
[14:19] <gnomefreak> so happy but i want it to build a tarball not a binary
[14:20] <asac> gnomefreak: what are you dpoig?
[14:20] <asac> doesnt moz-devscripts work?
[14:20] <asac> usually vcs systems have a "export" operation or something to export tarballs
[14:20] <gnomefreak> failing the build. no it wont work ive tried hacking that already
[14:20] <asac> nowadays
[14:20] <asac> but i am not sure you really want that
[14:20] <asac> gnomefreak: which package?
[14:21] <gnomefreak> sunbird 1.x
[14:21] <gnomefreak> make failed i forgot a build option
[14:21] <asac> gnomefreak: where is sunbird 1 in hg? url?
[14:22] <gnomefreak> asac: its in comcental give me a minute
[14:22] <gnomefreak> asac: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/calendar/  is that what you are looking for?
[14:23] <gnomefreak> reading on mxr atm
[14:24] <asac> gnomefreak: seems you need the same tarball that tbird uses ;)
[14:24] <asac> thats not a standalone tree there
[14:24] <asac> yeah its the same tarball ;)
[14:25] <gnomefreak> asac: i know comm-central IMHO is worthless they should have kept it on ftp....
[14:25] <gnomefreak> asac: rename everything in tarball?
[14:25] <asac> gnomefreak: heh
[14:25] <asac> you cannot compare apples with cars ;)
[14:25] <asac> ftp is something different
[14:25] <asac> releases get pused to ftp
[14:25] <asac> development happens in tree ;)
[14:25] <asac> gnomefreak: why rename everything in tarball? i dont understand that
[14:26] <asac> gnomefreak: you probably just need to rename the tarball itself
[14:26] <gnomefreak> oh
[14:26] <asac> nothing inside i would think
[14:26] <asac> gnomefreak: just copy the moz client files from thunderbird 3.0 branch
[14:26] <asac> and rename the project to sunbird or something
[14:26] <asac> should be straight forward
[14:26] <gnomefreak> ok that sounds almost too easy
[14:27] <asac> gnomefreak: tarball wise its eas
[14:27] <asac> gnomefreak: have you talked to sunbird folks
[14:27] <gnomefreak> ok updates than that. i might look at dist_clean patch today maybe tomorrow
[14:27] <asac> or why do you think that the comm-central tree actually works?
[14:27] <gnomefreak> asac: they dont relelase nightly tarballs
[14:28] <gnomefreak> asac: thats where they sent me to build it
[14:28] <gnomefreak> i know not very helpful
[14:30] <asac> everything queues up behind the firefox/xulrunner builds ;)
[14:35] <gnomefreak> its gonna be a while ill be back soon
[14:42] <BUGabundo> asac: please user !CHANNEL on identica
[14:42] <asac> BUGabundo: hmm
[14:42] <asac> BUGabundo: feel free to redent ;)
[14:42] <asac> next time
[14:42] <BUGabundo> to broadcast to a #group
[14:42] <BUGabundo> you must be part of the group to send to it
[14:43] <BUGabundo> I always redent your dents! lol
[14:56] <BUGabundo> asac: you are already getting helpers to improve startpage
[14:56] <BUGabundo> eheh
[15:08] <asac> BUGabundo: yes i know. i am part of !ubuntu ;)
[15:09] <asac> thanks
[15:10] <gnomefreak> asac: shouldnt the start page have ubuntu version on it other than the page name?
[15:10] <gnomefreak> 9.04 is only in URL bar
[15:19] <asac> gnomefreak: its not my decision ;)
[15:19] <asac> i only forwarded the news i got through other channels
[15:19] <gnomefreak> oh
[15:23] <asac> gnomefreak: but if you give me comments i will forward them back for sure ;)
[15:24] <gnomefreak> thats kind of simple. should be known what you are running :)
[15:24] <gnomefreak> this is taking too long :(
[15:29] <BUGabundo> do you guys think I should apply to Ubuntu Member? could I get your support?
[15:30] <gnomefreak> wouldnt do that in +1
[15:30] <BUGabundo> yeah
[15:30] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: make a wiki and edit it with stuff you do/did
[15:31] <BUGabundo> but there is were I'm more active
[15:31] <gnomefreak> i have to update mine sooner or later
[15:31] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: its offtopic for there
[15:32] <gnomefreak> ok lunch while this fails to build :)
[15:33] <BUGabundo> eheh
[15:33] <gnomefreak> asac: im gonna have to change everything in /debian example debian/control and im sure renaming everything from thunderbird to sunbird
[15:33] <gnomefreak> i will work on that after lunch
[15:34] <gnomefreak> oh no i dont
[15:34] <gnomefreak> forgot the branch is already for sunbird :)
[15:35] <gnomefreak> btw Python is not fixed
[15:35] <gnomefreak> nevermind that for a min i think i know the problem
[15:36] <asac> gnomefreak: hmm. i meant you should start with our sunbird branch
[15:36] <asac> and add the mozclient files there
[15:36] <asac> do we have a branch for sunbird 1.x?
[15:36] <gnomefreak> not yet
[15:36] <gnomefreak> asac: once i get it working ill push to one
[15:38] <gnomefreak> it is python i think
[16:24] <gnomefreak> asac: can you look at bug 117132 i have a weird feeling about that. did firefox introduce something new about themes in 3.0 reason we cant use firefox-themes package right?
[16:56] <BUGabundo> asac: why do you guys still support mozilla packages for dapper ???
[16:57] <asac> BUGabundo: because we support dapper?
[16:57] <asac> dapper is still supported for a few month for desktop
[16:57] <asac> and another 2 and a half years for servers
[16:58] <asac> i dream every day about those going away
[16:58] <asac> ;)
[16:58] <asac> gutsy will be EOL before dapper fwif ;)
[16:58] <asac> fwiw
[17:00] <BUGabundo> eheh
[17:00] <BUGabundo> I forgot about server
[17:00] <BUGabundo> but desktop ???
[17:00] <BUGabundo> really?
[17:00] <asac> yeah. its 6.06
[17:00] <BUGabundo> didn't it end around 8.04.1 ?
[17:00] <asac> 3 years support for LTS
[17:00] <BUGabundo> bah
[17:00] <asac> no
[17:00] <BUGabundo> ok
[17:00] <BUGabundo> never mind
[17:00] <BUGabundo> I'm tired
[17:01] <asac> no problem
[17:01] <BUGabundo> too much writing on my wiki page to apply to ubuntu member
[17:01] <asac> its really long and for usres that follow head its even longer ;)
[17:02] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[17:02]  * BUGabundo is already waiting for koala toolchains
[17:13] <BUGabundo> \o/ wiki page done! please check, comment and/or write a Testimonial https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BUGabundo
[18:00] <BUGabundo> bbl
[18:00] <BUGabundo> asac: I may put my hands on a few more 3G dongles
[18:00] <BUGabundo> will test and also see if hibernate/suspend/resume works
[18:00] <BUGabundo> bye
[20:04] <fta> back
[20:06] <BUGabundo> hey fta
[20:08] <fta> ok, this time, this is it, i will unsubscribe from that guy, he dents too much
[20:08] <BUGabundo> me ?
[20:08] <fta> no
[20:08] <BUGabundo> ohh
[20:08] <BUGabundo> some one is worse then me?
[20:09] <fta> far worse
[20:09] <BUGabundo> ok
[20:09] <BUGabundo> dinner
[20:09] <BUGabundo> bbl
[20:10] <fta> ~30 dents a day
[20:10] <fta> avg since he subscribed
[20:22] <fta> [reed], mozilla bug 385263 broke my build. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24419503/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.xulrunner-1.9.2_1.9.2~a1~hg20090327r26633%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[20:24] <fta> well, maybe not this commit as it seems old
[20:26] <fta> ohoh, pango 0.1.22 -> 0.1.24
[20:35] <newz2000> Hi, just updated firefox and it won't stop telling me that the browser has been updated and needs restarted...
[20:35] <newz2000> bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubufox/+bug/270303
[20:35] <newz2000> anything I can do to help add more details to the problem?
[20:46] <BUGabundo> yeah fta I'm not that bad
[20:49] <fta> BUGabundo, seems you're at ~26 avg per day, bad too
[20:49] <BUGabundo> am I?
[20:49] <BUGabundo> really?
[20:49] <BUGabundo> you did the math on it? eheh
[20:49]  * BUGabundo checks identica stats
[20:49] <fta> 7044 since 4 Jul 2008
[20:50] <BUGabundo> yeah I noticed
[20:50] <BUGabundo> doing it just now
[20:50] <blogdudel> 3G Bug huawei e160 fixed it works !!!!
[20:51] <BUGabundo> I read it too
[20:51] <BUGabundo> blogdudel: are you fta spammer ? eheh
[20:52] <fta> no
[20:52] <blogdudel> what ? spammer no what do you  mean ?
[20:52] <BUGabundo> never mind
[20:52] <BUGabundo> ;)
[20:53] <blogdudel> in german "hä was is los " ok
[21:00] <fta> [reed], mozilla Bug 485597
[21:01] <[reed]> fta: k, poke me later? kinda about to start a release, and it's going to get really hectic :(
[21:01] <[reed]> fta: request blocking 1.9.1 and such
[21:02] <fta> [reed], bz reacted to it in #dev..
[21:02] <fta> [reed], not sure he'll take it or what
[21:08] <fta> [reed], is 3.1b3 also impacted by the bug causing all the fuss in the 3.0 branch? I notice we still have b3+build2 in jaunty/universe :(
[21:09] <[reed]> yes
[21:09] <fta> :P
[21:10] <fta> [reed], what about those who took b3 from you? are you rushing to bake a b4 too, or a b3++ or nothing at all?
[21:52] <[reed]> fta: nothing at all
[21:52] <[reed]> afaik
[21:52] <[reed]> Firefox 3.0.8 is out
[21:52] <fta> :(
[22:31] <gnomefreak> asac: you around a scrolling question
[22:51] <asac> [reed]: no advisories pubilshed though ;) ... http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/
[22:51] <[reed]> asac: dveditz is working on it
[22:52] <asac> [reed]: ah. any ETA? (security team is waiting ;))
[22:52] <[reed]> asac: the drafts are on s-g@
[22:52] <[reed]> except for a typo
[22:52] <[reed]> if you need to see them
[22:53] <[reed]> I think dveditz is pushing them now
[22:53] <asac> great
[22:54] <fta> asac, do you alsa have that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139224/ ?
[22:55] <fta> i have tons of those, basically, all /usr/share/gnome/help/
[23:00] <asac> wait a sec
[23:00] <asac> i have a bunch of dapper/gutsy/intrepid chroot apps confusing my desktop experience :)
[23:02] <asac> fta: in .xsession-errors?
[23:02] <asac> oh during upgrade
[23:02] <asac> well i can try reinstall that package
[23:03] <fta> it's not the 1st time i see that
[23:05] <asac> fta: hmm. no ... i dont have that issue
[23:05] <asac> fta: maybe you have some custom applets?
[23:05] <fta> nope
[23:05] <asac> i mean some other packages that have applets :)
[23:05] <asac> more than just the applets you get installed by default
[23:06] <BUGabundo1> fta asac quick question
[23:06] <BUGabundo1> what is the current status of bug 187313 ?
[23:06] <BUGabundo1> is it fixed on any ppa?
[23:06] <BUGabundo1> I was just asked by a friend on HackLaViva
[23:08] <fta>  ///usr/share/gnome/help/about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.xml:7: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/usr/share/gnome/help/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent"
[23:08] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ l /usr/share/gnome/help/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent
[23:08] <fta> ls: cannot access /usr/share/gnome/help/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent: No such file or directory
[23:08] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ l /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent
[23:08] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23177 2009-03-27 11:51 /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent
[23:08] <BUGabundo1>  !pastebin
[23:08] <BUGabundo1> LOL
[23:09] <fta> so there's something weird with ghelp or ubuntu-docs
[23:09] <[reed]> asac -- http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox30.html
[23:09] <fta> BUGabundo1, no idea, i lost track of this bug a long time ago
[23:12] <BUGabundo1> fta: not even if it is fixed in ppa?
[23:14] <fta> BUGabundo1, i said "no idea" :)
[23:15] <BUGabundo1> ok ok
[23:16] <BUGabundo1> asac: what is the current status of bug 187313 ?
[23:16] <BUGabundo1> is it fixed on any ppa?
[23:20] <fta> asac, ok, found it, in my case, /usr/share/gnome/help/libs is an empty dir, not a link to ../../ubuntu-docs/libs
[23:24] <jdstrand> [reed]: fyi http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/ has MFSA 2009-12 listed twice
[23:24] <jdstrand> [reed]: though the links work right
[23:25] <[reed]> jdstrand: I'll fix that right up
[23:27] <[reed]> committed...  should go live in the next 30 min. or so
[23:27] <jdstrand> cool
[23:37] <[reed]> jdstrand: see the second paragraph on http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2009/mfsa2009-12.html -- we didn't have much as far as who the ubuntu guy was, so we could only put a first name
[23:39] <jdstrand> [reed]: heh, yeah. he didn't put too much in LP :)
[23:39] <jdstrand> I could set his location for him though :P
[23:40] <[reed]> we'll be happy to update the security adv if he wants to give his last name
[23:41]  * jdstrand nods