[01:42] <VK7HSE> Has anyone have the jaunty UNR installed if so are you having issues with the touch pad ??? (model Eee PC 701SD)
[02:44] <Eee_PC_701SD> sorry for re asking this question... but I have just installed jaunty UNR on my Eee PC 701SD only to discover that the touch-pad is very slow to respond! even with acceleration and sensitivity set to maximum it is still very sluggish... has anyone else noticed this ???
[03:26] <McLovin> hello all
[03:27] <McLovin> any word on where there is gong to be a beta out for the mini.iso?
[06:01] <tuxib> hi all, which ISO is in most need of testing at the moment?
[06:02] <tuxib> I'm currently downloading Xubuntu
[06:02] <tuxib> but I notice the status has gone to 5/5 over the last day or so
[06:03] <slangasek> jaunty beta is released; we're not doing ISO testing per se at this point
[06:03] <tuxib> doh, should have checked for that first
[06:03] <tuxib> ok d/l cancelled
[06:04] <tuxib> so what needs more testing now?
[06:05] <slangasek> well, there's http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta#Testing wanted
[06:10] <tuxib> ok thanks, started d/l that
[06:11] <tuxib> take care all. bye
[07:04] <ara> Morning!
[07:42] <ara> did I miss the announcement? is the beta out?
[07:42] <slangasek> it is out
[07:43] <slangasek> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2009-March/000119.html
[07:45] <ara> slangasek: cool, thanks :)
[08:40] <ara> morning davmor2, jcollado
[08:40] <davmor2> Good Morning ara
[08:40] <jcollado> Buenos días ara & davmor2
[08:41] <davmor2> Good day to you too jcollado
[09:58] <Aleksey_S> hi all
[09:58] <Aleksey_S> i am using ubuntu jaunty, and after latest update orca screenreader stoped working
[10:02] <Aleksey_S> what i can to do?
[10:02] <ara> Aleksey_S: have you rebooted after latest update?
[10:03] <Aleksey_S> yes
[10:03] <ara> Aleksey_S: the rest of the sound system works correctly?
[10:03] <Aleksey_S> for now i can only work with yasr console screen reader
[10:04] <Aleksey_S> yes
[10:04] <Aleksey_S> i tried start orca from console (just to see what will happen)
[10:04] <Aleksey_S> and python traceback appears
[10:05] <ara> Aleksey_S: what is the traceback?
[10:05] <Aleksey_S> i cann't copy it to you, because i am now from windows - but here was about orbit.so library
[10:05] <ara> Aleksey_S: when did you update your installation?
[10:05] <z1d4n3> Hi, is this the right place to ask for help with the 9.04 beta?
[10:05] <Aleksey_S> what do you mean?
[10:06] <Aleksey_S> i always upgrading with aptitude safe-upgrade
[10:06] <ara> Aleksey_S: ah, you upgraded from intrepid?
[10:06] <Aleksey_S> i did it last time may be half hour ago
[10:06] <Aleksey_S> no
[10:07] <Aleksey_S> i installed clean jaunty 9.04 alpha6 and updating every day
[10:07] <z1d4n3> Where should I go?
[10:07] <ara> Aleksey_S: can you file a bug with "ubuntu-bug gnome-orca"
[10:08] <Aleksey_S> how i can do that? i haven't access to gui now
[10:09] <ara> Aleksey_S: through the console "apport-cli -f -p gnome-orca"
[10:09] <ara> z1d4n3: #ubuntu+1 is the place
[10:09] <Aleksey_S> also, i have russian localization installed, and yasr screen reader cann't use espeak russian voice - so even in console output from most commands isn't accessible - it is in russian
[10:10] <Aleksey_S> can you describe what will happen after? becouse i guess i willn't be able to read output of that command
[10:11] <Aleksey_S> will it ask me something?
[10:12] <ara> Aleksey_S: I am afraid it will
[10:13] <Aleksey_S> do you remember what exactly?
[10:14] <ara> first, it will ask you to send the report, you have to answer "S" that's easy, but then, it will ask you to log in to launchpad (in a console based browser)
[10:14] <ara> Aleksey_S: let me try one thing
[10:14] <Aleksey_S> pretty cool
[10:15] <ara> Aleksey_S: let's try one thing. Wait a couple of minutes
[10:15] <ara> Aleksey_S: I'll get back to you
[10:15] <Aleksey_S> may be i can save output on the usb stick and then access it from windows to send it to you
[10:16] <ara> Aleksey_S: no, no. Just one sec.
[10:16] <Aleksey_S> oh ok, i will wait
[10:16] <ara> Aleksey_S: can you access your jaunty installation anyway, can you?
[10:17] <ara> Aleksey_S: at least through the command line
[10:17] <Aleksey_S> i can boot it, press alt+ctrl+f1
[10:17] <Aleksey_S> login into console and start yasr
[10:18] <ara> Aleksey_S: ok. Which is your launchpad id?
[10:18] <Aleksey_S> but most of the command have output in russian - yasr can't read that
[10:18] <ara> Aleksey_S: no problem, it would be easy
[10:18] <Aleksey_S> i don't know. how i can get that?
[10:18] <Aleksey_S> i have account on launchpad
[10:18] <ara> Aleksey_S: that's what I mean, your launchpad account name
[10:19] <Aleksey_S> lex@onm.su
[10:21] <ara> Aleksey_S: OK. Done. Now, through the command line type "apport-collect 349480". That will add the necessary information to the bug.
[10:21] <Aleksey_S> will it ask something?
[10:22] <ara> Aleksey_S: it won't
[10:22] <Aleksey_S> ok, i will reboot and try. after i will be back
[10:22] <ara> Aleksey_S: OK
[10:44] <Aleksey_S> done
[10:44] <Aleksey_S> it will be not so easy you describet
[10:44] <Aleksey_S> it started w3m browser and asked me to login
[10:45] <Aleksey_S> after it asked what access i want give for the apport-collect
[10:45] <VK7HSE> Hi... I have installed a fresh copy of jaunty unr on my Eee PC 701sd I have noticed that the touchpad is very sluggish and seems to jump around the screen a little I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed similar ???
[10:45] <Aleksey_S> i am not sure i clicked correct links, i was very surprised that yasr gave me access to w3m
[10:46] <Aleksey_S> but after all adventures, it said to me that new attachment was created and uploaded, so see bug 349480
[10:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 349480 in gnome-orca "Orca stopped working with the latest updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349480
[10:51] <davmor2> Hi heno beta's out then :)
[10:52] <davmor2> is any one having issue with audio again?
[10:52] <Aleksey_S> i haven't
[10:52] <ara> davmor2: I still have the crackling noise some times
[10:52] <ara> Aleksey_S: yes, the data is there
[10:52] <heno> Hi davmor2
[10:53] <Aleksey_S> is it usefull?
[10:53] <davmor2> ara: I got no gnome-volume-applet this morning
[10:53] <ara> davmor2: I have
[10:53]  * davmor2 hits box with hammer
[11:03] <Aleksey_S> ara: is there something i can help to resolve this bug as fast as possible? becouse for now i can't work with my linux at all.
[11:05] <ara> Aleksey_S: well, I am not expert in debugging orca issues. Jaunty is in development and, therefore, it is not meant to be used as a main system
[11:05] <ara> Aleksey_S: bugs are expected...
[11:05] <Aleksey_S> yes, i know
[11:05] <thekorn> Aleksey_S, I think there is a good chance you are affected by bug 349467
[11:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 349467 in python2.6 "update-manager fails to install todays updates due to "undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeUTF8"" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349467
[11:06] <thekorn> you have python2.6 2.6.1-1ubuntu5 installed, which  is known to be broken
[11:06] <Aleksey_S> yes
[11:06] <Aleksey_S> so i can just install latest updates?
[11:06] <thekorn> so maybe this is not a bug in ocra itself
[11:07] <Aleksey_S> "fix released" mean that fix is allready in repo, right?
[11:08] <thekorn> Aleksey_S, wait a bit, the fix has been uploaded, but maybe not published on your archive mirror
[11:08] <Aleksey_S> how many i need?
[11:08] <Aleksey_S> i am using ua mirror
[11:09] <thekorn> Aleksey_S, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/2.6.1-1ubuntu5.1 shows that the fix ist still building
[11:10] <Aleksey_S> *goes to try updates
[11:10] <Aleksey_S> ah ok
[11:11] <thekorn> so you have to wait at least until the package has been published for your architecture
[11:11] <Aleksey_S> thanks a lot
[11:13] <Aleksey_S> and if update will fix this, what i mean to do to notify that this is result of 349467 bug?
[11:17] <thekorn> Aleksey_S, leave a comment at your bug, and either mark your bug as a duplicate of the other one or mark your bug as invalid
[11:23] <loffe> Hello folks! I'm thinking of doing the suspend testing on my laptop. Now I'm wondering if I need to make a full install, or can I run it from within a LiveUSB?
[12:03] <abelsoares> hi all
[12:04] <davmor2> Hello
[12:04] <abelsoares> so, i am interested in became an ubuntu tester
[12:04] <abelsoares> what do i have to do?
[12:05] <davmor2> abelsoares: What are you interested in testing?
[12:08] <abelsoares> \msg davmor2 so maibe stuff like multimedia apps, etc
[12:11] <davmor2> abelsoares: you can go here to learn some more https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing  If your interest is in testing the cd's so they can be released then go here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ and sign up.  Also every Monday we are starting to run testing days which is probably the easiest way to start
[12:12] <abelsoares> \msg davmor2 ok, i certainly will read that and sign up
[12:40] <davmor2> See you all latter
[13:07] <Shane_Fagan> Hi I was trying to test the suspend and resume that the kernel team asked for in the mailing list and it failed. I couldnt shutdown the computer so I turned it off manually. When I booted back up apport picked up on the crash but when I tried to upload the crash report nothing happened. Update manager, software sources and deskbar applet is also not working.
[13:10] <Shane_Fagan> Any ideas on whats wrong?
[13:12] <ara> Shane_Fagan: apt-cache policy python
[13:12] <ara> Shane_Fagan: what do you get
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan> python:
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>   Installed: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>   Candidate: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>   Version table:
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>  *** 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 0
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[13:16] <ara> mmm, I thought it might be because 2.6.1-0ubuntu5 was broken
[13:18] <Shane_Fagan> I didnt get any errors updating and I only started to get problems after trying the suspend tests
[13:18] <Shane_Fagan> If that helps
[13:18] <ara> Shane_Fagan: yes, I don't think it is related to suspend/resume
[13:19] <ara> Shane_Fagan: you might have started to have problems because you actually rebooted
[13:19] <Shane_Fagan> I understand
[13:24] <Shane_Fagan> ara: after looking into whats not working. It is the programs that use python that dont work all the rest seem to work fine.
[13:24] <ara> mvo_: ^
[13:33] <Shane_Fagan> mvo_: Any ideas?
[13:40] <mvo_> Shane_Fagan: broken python? that is a known issue, the fix for python2.6 just got published
[13:41] <Shane_Fagan> Well apt-cache policy python came back normal so the package isnt broken
[13:42] <mvo_> Shane_Fagan: could you please check what version of python2.6 you have?
[13:42] <mvo_> Shane_Fagan: and check if you can update that to -1ubuntu5.1 ?
[13:44] <Shane_Fagan> candidate is -1ubuntu5.1 ill see if it fixes the problem
[13:47] <Shane_Fagan> mvo_: Fixed thanks for the help
[14:00] <mvo_> cheers
[14:00] <xivulon> Hi all, i would appreciate some heavy testing on wubi since it is a complete rewrite (if you still have a windows partition/vm somewhere, that's a good reason to use it)
[14:01] <xivulon> davmor2, has been very helpful so far, but the more the merrier
[14:02] <xivulon> Please see also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1107950
[14:11] <Shane_Fagan> ogasawara: my computer failed the suspend resume test do I need to add it to the wiki?
[14:13] <Shane_Fagan> ogasawara: Im asking because it failed to log the testing but apport caught it.
[14:35] <ogasawara> Shane_Fagan: yes, if you could add it to the wiki that would be great.  also there's a column in the wiki for you to reference the bug# which would be great.
[14:35] <Shane_Fagan> ogasawara: Thanks
[14:59] <marctww> Anyone here have experience with what looks like a redraw-bug with nvidia-177.82 driver in Ubuntu 8.10?
[15:08] <Shane_Fagan> marctww: This channel is for testing ubuntu for support of previous releases ask you question in #ubuntu
[15:09] <marctww> thanks
[15:14] <jtisme> when will we start making the dailys again?
[15:41] <jtisme> heno r you on
[15:42] <heno> jtisme: I am; we'll probably get new dailies tomorrow morning
[15:43] <jtisme> ok, i was looking at the regression tracking pages and although that is not exactly what i had in mind it fits in the structure i am thinking about i will join the testing mtg next monday and bring up my ideas
[19:46] <jardi> hi all
[19:47] <jardi> I'm trying to respond to the call for suspend/hibernate testing, but I have some questions.
[19:49] <jardi> the test says "machine will suspend for 20 seconds", does it means that the machine will resume itself after 20 sec ? or do I need to do something to wake it up ?
[19:50] <jardi> And by the way, (I never used the suspend/resume thing) how do I resume from a suspend the nice way ?
[21:30] <pace_t_zulu> anyone know about 'open-vm-toolbox' package on jaunty?
[21:46] <imme-emosol> hello there.
[21:46] <imme-emosol> My Ubuntu won't start anymore.
[21:47] <imme-emosol> After an update today I am thrown to busybox.
[21:47] <imme-emosol> It says it cannot find my disk.
[21:47] <imme-emosol> And it suggests me to look at modules.
[21:48] <imme-emosol> I have already concluded that ubuntu-latest is not for me , but I thought to sit it out until the end...
[21:48] <imme-emosol> That is , until jaunty is released.
[21:49] <imme-emosol> But this is quite problematic , and I don't really know how to solve it.
[21:49] <imme-emosol> Is it a known problem?
[22:10] <imme-emosol> so , wrong chan. ... :)