[00:00] <Arthur_> can anybody help me the network manager autodetect is looking for my cdma sprint card on ttyusb0 but the modem is on ttyusb1 how do i change this
[00:00] <solexious|netbk> How can I allow windows to go above the top of the screen? When they get there the window stops moving
[00:00] <wubi_pain> Gnea: No, I can boot to an old Ubuntu install, but not my Wubi install under Windows.
[00:00] <lordlouis1> is there a command-line application that allow to upload documents to googledocs?
[00:01] <Gnea> wubi_pain: can you boot your windows cd into rescue mode and recover windows that way?
[00:01] <space_cadet> allright guys.   Here's one for ya.   Inside a script, i place gksudo gedit file/to/edit    but no prompt appears.   Solution?
[00:01] <lordlouis1> :)
[00:01] <wubi_pain> Gnea: Not my computer, and I doubt there is a rescue CD anymore.  What we do have will reimage the whole driver.
[00:01] <lordlouis1> :(
[00:02] <Naesh> can someone recommend a good dock program for  ubuntu 8.10?
[00:02] <space_cadet> cairo dock
[00:02] <space_cadet> although you should go to the bot's room and ask bestbot
[00:02] <space_cadet> !best
[00:02] <oCean_> sstoveld: Seems weird, however, because any issue you encounter *might* be related to the fact you're running an alpha version, we're asking all jaunty users to join #ubuntu+1
[00:02] <Gnea> wubi_pain: my only other suggestion is to use your current ubuntu install to recreate the boot.ini somehow - you'll need to google what the boot.ini should look like with wubi on it
[00:02] <Naesh> space_cadet: thanks. How do I get it to dissapear behind open windows?
[00:02] <sstoveld> oCean_, ok, thank you
[00:03] <rhonda_> k
[00:03] <space_cadet> Naesh, you can make it autohide down out of screen
[00:03] <stukpixel> ah I tried installing nvidia drivers for my emachines t2899 with geforce4 mx gfx card
[00:03] <wubi_pain> Gnea: That might work, but I still need to be able to mount and replace the broken file.
[00:03] <stukpixel> however when it boots up
[00:03] <stukpixel> it tell me it failed ot load module "type 1"
[00:03] <wubi_pain> Gnea: ...which I can't do currently.
[00:03] <Naesh> space_cadet: thanks
[00:03] <stukpixel> not to be a bother
[00:03] <space_cadet> Naesh, and edit the callback zone, and give the callback zone a transparent background made in gimp
[00:04] <shpook> Anyone know of a program to open TurboCad files?
[00:04] <stukpixel> but did anyone encounter this problem b4
[00:04] <Gnea> wubi_pain: but you can boot into ubuntu on another partition, so why not?
[00:04] <space_cadet> so how do i call gksudo from within a script?
[00:04] <rhonda_> can someone tell me why none of my applications are launching
[00:04] <wubi_pain> Gnea: Yes, I am on Ubuntu in another partition.
[00:04] <Gnea> wubi_pain: again, why can't you access the partition that windows is installed on from there?
[00:05] <wubi_pain> Gnea: I don't know.
[00:05] <Gnea> wubi_pain: ...
[00:05] <Gnea> wubi_pain: it's not under Places or Places->Computer?
[00:06] <wubi_pain> Gnea: not directly, for sure.
[00:06] <space_cadet> wubi_pain, or in your nautilus window on the left side.?
[00:06] <Arthur_> can i use my 8.4 home partition with 8.10 on my laptop with out any issues? dual boot...
[00:06] <Gnea> wubi_pain: is it that you don't know how to access it or that it's simply not showing up?
[00:06] <rhonda_> can someone tell me why none of my applications are launching
[00:07] <wubi_pain> Gnea: Not sure.  I think I've tried mounting all the correct mount points as NTFS, but mount isn't succeeding.
[00:07] <encore>  identify ammo1105janna
[00:07] <space_cadet> wubi_pain, you should see all of your disks/partitions in the file browser.
[00:07] <encore> clear
[00:07] <wubi_pain> space_cadet: Give me a sec, and I'll check what's there.
[00:08] <space_cadet> wubi_pain, like me, I have my external, my filesystem, my data partition, and my 91.4 GB media (windows)
[00:08] <opossum> sup -- I want to find out when the new wesnoth will make it into synaptic --- how do I find out?
[00:08] <space_cadet> opossum /join #wesnoth ? ?
[00:09] <opossum> space_cadet: it has nothing to do with themn
[00:09] <opossum> space_cadet: it's a downstream thing
[00:10] <wubi_pain> space_cadet: Under Places, I have Home, Desktop, Computer, CD/DVD Creator, Network, Connect to Server..., Search for Files, and Recent Documents.
[00:10] <Gnea> wubi_pain: well, you're going to need to do the following if you're going to hope for any success in the situation: a) find out which partition windows is installed on, b) fix the filesystem on there, if it needs fixing, c) make sure you're using the correct command to mount it with
[00:10] <space_cadet> lol @ gnea   that's a lot of luck there.
[00:10] <Gnea> wubi_pain: could you please pastebin the output of the dmesg command?
[00:10] <space_cadet> gksudo inside a script.   HOWTO?
[00:11] <oCean_> !away > Album|Awy
[00:11] <wubi_pain> Gnea: I believe it is /dev/sdb2.  and I'm using mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[00:11] <Droopsta915> I found the GNU/Linux Web Radio & Podcast [(Oo)].....http://thelinuxlink.net/......Check it oput, it's cool info and fun talk.
[00:11] <Gnea> wubi_pain: okay, you may want to consider using ntfs-3g for this
[00:12] <Gnea> !ntfs-3g | wubi_pain
[00:12] <space_cadet> wubi_pain, why arent you using /media/windows for your mountpoint?
[00:12] <wubi_pain> Gnea: I don't know how to fix the filesystem if it's broken.
[00:12] <Arthur_> i just installed 8.10 dual boot with 8.04 on my laptop. i connect to the Internet using my CDMA sprint card. after install i try to connect using the auto connect, my modem is on Modem = /dev/ttyUSB1 according to gnome-pp auto detect, i get wvdial to connect, but when i use the auto connect feature it seems to be looking for ttyUSB0 there is no auto detect modem in network manager? and there is no way to manually edit it? so now how do i te
[00:13] <Gnea> wubi_pain: no problem, start by installing the ntfsprogs package
[00:13] <wubi_pain> Gnea: It's an old install, and apt-get seems to be hosed.
[00:13] <space_cadet> wubi_pain, aptitude
[00:13] <asm`> hi - im on intel dual core - this iso didnt work in my virtual machine.. the error was that "this kernel needs a x86-64 cpu, only found i686" or some shit - ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:13] <rhonda_> yo can any one tell me why none of my applications are launching
[00:13] <space_cadet> !ohmy | asm'
[00:13] <Gnea> wubi_pain: what is the result of this command:  lsb_release -r
[00:13] <wubi_pain> space_cadet: Ok, I'll try aptitude
[00:14] <Arthur_> how do i tell network manager to look at ttyUSB1 for my CDMA card?
[00:14] <papito> hello is there any way to merge two partitions from different hard disks ?
[00:14] <jrib> asm`: use 32bit then?
[00:14] <wubi_pain> Gnea: 7.04
[00:14] <space_cadet> papito maybe with raid, but i doubt it
[00:14] <ratdeimos> have this weird blurring of screen when i press backspace at the start of an input window?  any clues?
[00:15] <asm`> jrib
[00:15] <asm`> shouldnt 64-bit work?
[00:15] <asm`> maybe only intel
[00:15] <asm`> err amd
[00:15] <FloodBot2> asm`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <iceroot> !enter | asm`
[00:15] <jrib> asm`: apparently your virtual machine is 32bit, no?
[00:15] <papito> my main linux harddisk in running out of space, I added another hard disk, I mean,for example in order to install new packages is there any way to tell the system to continue installing all software in the new hard disk ? I do not want to format
[00:15] <Gnea> wubi_pain: I highly recommend the following sequence then: a) upgrade, at the very least, to 8.04, b) continue on with ntfsprogs (which contains ntfsfix, which can fix your broken ntfs filesystem - but it works with ntfs-3g, not ntfs driver)
[00:15] <wubi_pain> space_cadet: Not very familiar with aptitude; I'll see if I can find the NTFS-3g
[00:16] <asm`> jrib, true.. so my vm has to prob be 32-bit
[00:16] <asm`> ?
[00:16] <EvilAIM> damnit
[00:16] <iceroot> wubi_pain: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[00:16] <EvilAIM> I screwed my tv/monitor up again
[00:16] <EvilAIM> haha
[00:16] <space_cadet> wubi_pain, download an 8.04 or 8.10 disk, and run it in live mode.
[00:16] <oCean_> EvilAIM: tone down the language please
[00:16] <EvilAIM> Ok, what's the command to reconfigure xorg?
[00:16] <jrib> asm`: seems so.  You would have to check the documentation for whatever virtualizer you are using
[00:16] <jrib> !x | EvilAIM
[00:17] <space_cadet> wubi_pain, just remember to burn it @ <= 4x
[00:17] <EvilAIM> I can't do that, I'm in CLI
[00:17] <almigi> Hello everyone
[00:17] <jrib> EvilAIM: can't do what?
[00:17] <EvilAIM> I just need to know the command.  I think it's sudo dpkg reconfigure xorg?
[00:17] <unblessedTurnip> EvilAIM: it says 'sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart'
[00:17] <wubi_pain> space_cadet: good idea.  I'll download a CD tomorrow, and burn it.  For tonight, I'm going to continue to pursue the NTFS-3g angle.
[00:17] <space_cadet> EvilAIM, and you haven't tried it yet?
[00:17] <EvilAIM> that won't work...
[00:17] <oCean_> !xconfig | EvilAIM
[00:17] <EvilAIM> I've already tried it.
[00:17] <jrib> EvilAIM: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?  Why do you think you need to do this?
[00:17] <EvilAIM> YA!
[00:17] <Arthur_> can somone help me with network manager in 8.10
[00:17] <EvilAIM> tx
[00:18] <space_cadet> anyone tell me how to get a script to prompt for admin access for one specific line and not for the whole script?
[00:18] <EvilAIM> lets see if this works
[00:18] <iceroot> space_cadet: use sudo in the script
[00:18] <philsf> everytime I unmount my USB HD, I get a window warning that it couldn't be unmounted (although it was) for the reason: "Cannot remove directory". However, besides the volume being correcly unmounted, the mount point is also correctly removed. Does anyone know why this wrong message appears, or how can I fix it?
[00:19] <space_cadet> iceroot, see.  I tried that,
[00:19] <mezy> is  there a way to make a custom ubuntu in windows?
[00:19] <space_cadet> iceroot but it didn't prompt for a password anywhere
[00:19] <iceroot> space_cadet: hm
[00:19] <almigi> You mean run Ubuntu like a Windows app, Mezy?
[00:19] <space_cadet> iceroot, i've even tried gksudo (i want to open gedit)
[00:20] <space_cadet> lemmie try again
[00:20] <mezy> almigi: no
[00:20] <wubi_pain> Gnea: regarding dmesg... this may be the culprit: NTFS-fs error (device sdb2): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Primary boot sector is invalid.
[00:20] <EvilAIM> sweet, that worked.  I just forgot that damn command.
[00:20] <skorek> chuj
[00:20] <space_cadet> iceroot, hmm.. maybe i entered my password about 15 min ago and forgot
[00:20] <papito> how do I list the biggest files _
[00:20] <space_cadet> it works now
[00:20] <papito> ?
[00:21] <iceroot> space_cadet: working fine here
[00:21] <iceroot> space_cadet: ok
[00:21] <jrib> papito: applications -> accessories -> disk usage analyzer
[00:21] <papito> jrib, thank you
[00:22] <mezy> is there a way to make my own ubuntu in windows?
[00:22] <EvilAIM> lol, so I fixed it, then I went and did it again, amusing...
[00:22] <iceroot> mezy: what?
[00:22] <iceroot> mezy: what do you mean exactly? a virtual machine?
[00:22] <mezy> iceroot: a custom version
[00:23] <EvilAIM> Gar
[00:23] <eseven73> mezy i think theres enough ubuntu clones as it is :)
[00:23] <wubi_pain> Gnea: how do I go about repairing the NTFS filesystem from Ubuntu?
[00:23] <mezy> eseven73: this one is only for me
[00:23] <EvilAIM> now it isn't working... when I first started it was perfect.  it auto adjusted the screen to fit, but the resolution looks really small for such a big tv.
[00:24] <EvilAIM> I just want like a 1024x* resolution.
[00:24] <eseven73> mezy i was just messing lol
[00:24] <mezy> eseven73: i know lol
[00:24] <Gnea> wubi_pain: well, like i said, you'll need to start by upgrading your ubuntu.
[00:24] <papito> is there a way to tell the system to continue installing applications on other hard disk ?
[00:24] <EvilAIM> shoooot
[00:24] <iceroot> papito: no
[00:25] <wubi_pain> Gnea: Yes, am asking for tomorrow, when I have a live CD, but potentially no IRC.
[00:25] <papito> iceroot: thank you :D
[00:25] <iceroot> papito: its not like windows, where you can install programs on d:\programs
[00:25] <iceroot> papito: depends on a package where it will be installed
[00:25] <papito> yup, there used to be a distro like that calle bogo linux or smth like that
[00:25] <iceroot> papito: and a harddisc is just something like /, /etc and so on
[00:25] <eseven73> !remaster | mezy (perhaps this could help you...)
[00:26] <Gnea> wubi_pain: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=810156
[00:26] <NOD62> Hey everyone.
[00:26] <Gnea> wubi_pain: save or print that page
[00:26] <iceroot> NOD62: hi
[00:27] <NOD62> I'm trying to change my username on Ubuntu 8.10
[00:27] <wubi_pain> Gnea: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[00:27] <NOD62> Anyone know how I can accomplish this?  I think it has something to do with usermod commands but I cannot recall.
[00:27] <Wulfrunner> does anyone have any ideas how libsdl came to depend on arts on my computer?
[00:28] <jrib> NOD62: did you check its man page?
[00:29] <LjL> jrib: he's on pidgin, he's trying to change the ident
[00:29] <LjL> i haven't got a clue about it, nor pidgin installed
[00:29] <jrib> NOD62: account options in pidgin iirc
[00:30] <puff> Does the ubuntu live CD include java support?
[00:30] <iceroot> puff: yes, if you install java
[00:30] <puff> iceroot: So "no".
[00:30] <opossum> sup -- I want to find out when the new wesnoth will make it into synaptic --- how do I find out?
[00:31] <maximo> !register
[00:31] <iceroot> puff: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk (or jre)
[00:31] <puff> iceroot: Is the package on the CD?
[00:31] <Flannel> opossum: What do you mean by "new" -- new version? or bug fixes or what?
[00:31] <iceroot> puff: no, because its not free, but maybe openjdk is on cd
[00:31] <puff> iceroot: Right, so "no".
[00:31] <opossum> Flannel: they've released a new stable version -- 1.6. The one in the repos is still the 1.4 line
[00:31] <Wulfrunner> many of the applications trying to access my sound devices are taking longer than normal to start. how can I debug this?
[00:32] <Flannel> opossum: When did they release it, do you know?
[00:32] <opossum> Flannel: This week, I think, or last week
[00:32] <opossum> not to long ago anway
[00:32] <iceroot> puff: there is java-support, if you install it, so to answer your question if the live-cd support java, yes :)
[00:32] <papito> ahahah it was the mldonkey that ate my fulll hard disk space Ã:S it will neeed to remove it or do a reconfiguration Ã:S
[00:32] <opossum> Sunday, March 22 2009
[00:33] <Flannel> opossum: Alright.  The earliest 1.6 will be in the repos will be 9.10.  Jaunty is already fozen (and it's got 1.4.7).
[00:33] <opossum> Flannel: is that just the official repository though?
[00:34] <Flannel> opossum: In the official Ubuntu repositories, yes.  There'd be no way to prohibit people from setting up their own (likely a PPA)
[00:34] <Flannel> opossum: It could get into the official -backports, but it'll be more likely that someone (perhaps wesnoth's MOTU) would backport 1.6 to current Ubuntu versions in a PPA.
[00:35] <EvilAIM> hey all.
[00:35] <opossum> alright
[00:35] <Drizzle> Anyone know a release date for Ubuntu 9.x
[00:35] <EvilAIM> I'm having a hell of a time tring to get my resolution back up.
[00:35] <EvilAIM> Drizzle: end of april
[00:36] <Drizzle> Thanx
[00:36] <Flannel> opossum: So, I'd contact the maintainer and ask if they have any plans for doing something like that, etc.
[00:36] <opossum> I'll ask on #wesnoth
[00:36] <iceroot> Drizzle: ne version = year.month  so 9.04 will be out at  2009 (9) april (04)
[00:36] <KillerOrca> Anyone know how to do wake on lan in Ubuntu?
[00:37] <EvilAIM> Anyone have any ideas on how I can set my resolution back to normal.  I've tried dpkg-reconfigure and I've tried restoring an older backup of the file.
[00:37] <mobiGeek> morning folks!
[00:37] <jrib> EvilAIM: read the links ubottu gave you
[00:37] <EvilAIM> I can't, I'm in CLI
[00:38] <eseven73> there are text based browsers
[00:38] <EvilAIM> yes, but my apt-get is stuck atm.
[00:38] <jrib> EvilAIM: so you have no X at all?  I though i t was just a resolution problem.  And even then, you can use elinks2 for example
[00:38] <EvilAIM> this is crazy.
[00:38] <oCean_> iceroot: well, that's planning anyway. Like Drake's release was planned for april, it came out in june '06
[00:38] <jrib> -e
[00:38] <thebloggu> can someone tell me how svn handles two people working on the same file at the same time ? i am considering using it to a project
[00:38] <cyphermox> EvilAIM: what about using wget to grab the page at least?
[00:38] <EvilAIM> Well, right now my apt-get is stuck:(
[00:39] <jrib> EvilAIM: what does "stuck" mean?
[00:39] <EvilAIM> gar, I'm going to reboot.  That'll unstuck my apt-get
[00:39] <EvilAIM> it says it's in use
[00:39] <mobiGeek> what URLs did ubottu give evilatm?  just got here but have a similar problem
[00:39] <EvilAIM> so I kill -9 it but it says it's not allowed
[00:39] <jrib> kill -9  apt is not a good idea in general...
[00:39] <eseven73> jrib: E: Couldn't find package elinks2
[00:39] <EvilAIM> I noticed.
[00:39] <jrib> eseven73: links2
[00:39] <iceroot> oCean_: yes, of course "its done when its done" (hail to the king) but normaly its the relase-date
[00:40] <eseven73> ok
[00:40] <dtm_> hello everyone
[00:40] <EvilAIM> brb
[00:40] <jrib> thebloggu: #svn
[00:40] <dtm_> i was wondering what cd writewr worked best with ubuntu
[00:40] <Guest44605> how do i find a file over ssh?
[00:40] <mobiGeek> jrib: what URLs did ubottu give evilatm?  just got here but have a similar problem
[00:40] <iceroot> dtm_: any?
[00:40] <jrib> !fixres | mobiGeek
[00:40] <dtm_> any that are good
[00:40] <Guest44605> Like a downloads.ini file..
[00:40] <jrib> Guest44605: locate name_of_file   ?
[00:40] <thebloggu> jrib, thanks
[00:41] <dtm_> the common ones get errors constantly
[00:41] <mobiGeek> jrib: thx!
[00:41] <opossum> Flannel: what is PPA?
[00:41] <Guest44605> jrib: that doesnt find anything.
[00:41] <dtm_> phenylproponalamine
[00:41] <jrib> Guest44605: sudo updatedb and try again
[00:41] <NOD62> Bleh, I'm still unable to hide my info in whois +_+
[00:42] <Guest44605> do you know where the mldonkey download.ini file is?
[00:42] <eseven73> NOD64 i think only freenode staff can hide from whois info
[00:42] <Guest44605> and sudo updatedb does nothing for me
[00:42] <jrib> !who | Guest44605
[00:43] <jrib> Guest44605: you are supposed to run the locate command after updatedb
[00:43] <Guest44605> jrib, And sudo updatedb does nothing for me
[00:43] <dtm_> i guess no one had thi proble,
[00:43] <dtm_> ,
[00:43] <dtm_> er
[00:43] <KillerOrca> Anyone know how wake on lan in Ubuntu is setup?
[00:43] <dtm_> m
[00:43] <Guest44605> jrib, Crap ssh hates me.
[00:43] <FloodBot2> dtm_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <dtm_> sorry
[00:43] <Guest44605> jrib, keeps hanging/freezing
[00:44] <jrib> NOD62: you mean your ip? or "zack"?
[00:44] <cousteau> why isn't there any jaunty beta desktop CD yet?
[00:44] <jrib> !jaunty | cousteau
[00:45] <opossum> Flannel: there are already ubuntu packages here -- I guess someone just has to put them in a PPA
[00:45] <opossum> http://www.getdeb.net/app/The+Battle+for+Wesnoth.
[00:45] <Guest44605> Ok, Why does my PuTTY ssh keep hanging on me..
[00:46] <eseven73> why use putty? or are you doing that in windows?
[00:47] <NOD62> jrib: I wasn't able to hide my info on whois.. :/
[00:47] <Guest44605> eseven73, im in windows.
[00:47] <Guest44605> SShing into my linux pc
[00:47] <eseven73> ouch
[00:47] <eseven73> cant help you then sorry ;)
[00:47] <jrib> NOD62: right.  What info exactly?  Your hostname?  or your name, "zack"?
[00:49] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, What are you trying to do exactly?
[00:50] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, Well first im SSH'ing into my linux pc.(Always)
[00:50] <Arthur_> anybody know anything about networkmanager in 8.10
[00:50] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, but now im trying to fix mldonkey
[00:50] <Guest44605> a program that hates me
[00:51] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, alright and what do you need to do to fix it, I've never used nor heard of it
[00:51] <NOD62> jrib: Yeah, my name.  I just don't want it to be shown. xD
[00:52] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, I need to edit my downloads.ini file.
[00:52] <jrib> NOD62: did you check the account options in pidgin?
[00:52] <Guest44605> then restart it, (I think)
[00:52] <Guest44605> but have no clue.
[00:53] <Guest44605> Does anybody know any Linux emule Programs that i can set up/control over SSH & Web UI?
[00:54] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, and you had it set up and working before?
[00:54] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, no, just set it up yesterday after upgrading from 7.10
[00:54] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, well reinstalling from 7.10
[00:54] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, but you have used it before?
[00:55] <Guest44605> KillerOrca,
[00:55] <Guest44605> No.
[00:55] <NOD62> jrib: Yes I checked... Everything is entered as my Alias.
[00:56] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, Alright well if you are just trying to get it to work I found some instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MLDonkey with further links
[00:57] <jrib> NOD62: click on the "Advanced" tab
[00:58] <Tamnakz> Can someone help me with issues revolving around IP address problems?
[00:58] <BlackCoffee> hiya ppl
[00:58] <NOD62> jrib: Username, Real name are entered as my Alias.
[00:58] <FrGord> hey, black
[00:58] <jrib> NOD62: then logout and log back in
[01:00] <Guest44605> is there a better client for ssh for windows than putty?
[01:00] <Guest44605> it hates me
[01:01] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, it works fairly well, unless you want to transfer files, what is wrong with it?
[01:01] <master> my other computer tells me that i 'm connet to the net but it will not log on  net card says it is
[01:01] <BlackCoffee> er
[01:01] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, Its always freezing on me.
[01:01] <BlackCoffee> anyone here using seamonkey?
[01:01] <iceroot> BlackCoffee: i think so
[01:02] <BlackCoffee> i'm thinking about trying it,but would like to hear some positive things about it first
[01:02] <NOD62> jrib: Worked, thanks.
[01:02] <iceroot> !anyone | BlackCoffee
[01:02] <master> my other computer tells me that i 'm connet to the net but it will not log on  net card says it is how do i fix this
[01:02] <crdlb> BlackCoffee: seamonkey is just the old mozilla suite
[01:02] <BlackCoffee> haaa
[01:02] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, well it could be a lot of things, my sessions have always been pretty solid, try WinSCP and see how long it stays connected
[01:03] <BlackCoffee> oh then it's just like netscape...mmm
[01:03] <KillerOrca> master, do you mean home network or internet?
[01:03] <EvilAIM> hey all
[01:03] <EvilAIM> still can't get it to work
[01:03] <BlackCoffee> i actually just want to install it for the wysiwyg html editor
[01:03] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, will do
[01:03] <puff> iceroot: The answer to my question is "no, the live CD doesn't support java, but you can install java after booting, IF you have network access the ubuntu repositories."
[01:03] <master> internet
[01:04] <puff> So when I ran the "test CD" function I got a popup that said "boot loader" in the title bar and in the content said "/casper/vlinuz"
[01:04] <FrGord> say, folks, will WinSCP work on Ubuntu?  I have used it on a Windoze computer to log into a BSD one -- perhaps I can do that with my new ubuntu bos
[01:04] <iceroot> puff: yes, so ubuntu live-system is supporting java .)
[01:04] <KillerOrca> master, so did you lose internet access?
[01:04] <jrib> FrGord: just use scp or nautilus if you want a guy
[01:04] <jrib> gui*
[01:05] <KillerOrca> FrGord, yes it will work
[01:05] <master> yes
[01:05] <EvilAIM> My problem lies as this, I have connected my Desktop to my TV via VGA cables.  I changed the resoltion, and now it says "mode not supported"
[01:05] <puff> I wonder how hard it is to assemble a custom live C.
[01:05] <puff> Er live CD.
[01:05] <EvilAIM> I've tried a lot of stuff to no avail.
[01:05] <iceroot> !remaster | puff
[01:05] <KillerOrca> FrGord, I mean to log in from windows to ubuntu
[01:05] <gabo-el-caramelo> hi!, alguien que hable español!
[01:05] <puff> iceroot: Cool!
[01:05] <FrGord> k - scp then the IP address?
[01:06] <FrGord> no, I'd like to log into  BSD from Ubuntu
[01:06] <areeves> I've dist-upgraded to jaunty using apt-get... heh... that was fun =P  Anyway, I doubt it has anything to do with it, but my network configs are all messed up (i think they were before, actually)... what script does the installer use to automatically generate the "defaults" for network config and can I just run it and "reset" of sorts?
[01:06] <moto125> Hey guys quick question: Why when I go to download Ubuntu 64bit it says AMD64? Is there no Intel 64 bit version?
[01:06] <iceroot> puff: its very nice to build an own live-cd with all the stuff is needed
[01:06] <KillerOrca> master, and have you tried rebooting to see if it fixes anything?
[01:06] <eseven73> how do i change the resolution on the console? (Using ubuntu-server)
[01:06] <puff> Hm, how much overhead does the desktop live CD add vs. the server live CD?
[01:06] <lfaraone> hi, how do I create a socket as a user? (I want to be able to echo to it and have the it come out in the "tail -f" command I'm also running on the file?
[01:06] <KillerOrca> FrGord, don't know anything about that scenario, sorry
[01:06] <lfaraone> puff:  "overhead"?
[01:07] <puff> lfaraone: I need to set up 10 boxes that will all be running some fairly CPU & RAM intensive simulations.
[01:07] <master> many times and
[01:07] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, "Host is not communicatino for more than 15 seconds still waiting."
[01:07] <puff> lfaraone: I *probably* don't *need* the dekstop stuff (X, etc) but it wouldn't hurt to have it around.
[01:08] <Guest44605> Should i assume something is wrong with my ssh install itself?
[01:08] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, this is in winSCP?
[01:08] <lfaraone> puff: just install using the server install.
[01:08] <puff> lfaraone: So the question is, what's the down side, how much load does it add?
[01:08] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, yes
[01:08] <lfaraone> puff: a lot :)
[01:08] <lfaraone> puff: just install it with apt if you need it.
[01:08] <un2him> I'm sure you already know, but the Beta of Jaunty has just been released: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[01:08] <master> i ping  it  and the bars are strong
[01:08] <maxb> lfaraone: Do you really mean socket? Perhaps you mean fifo, a.k.a. named pipe? Or, for that matter, a plain file would meet your requirements to be able to echo and tail -f :-)
[01:09] <puff> lfaraone: Were you not paying attnetion a moment ago?  <puff> iceroot: The answer to my question is "no, the live CD doesn't support java, but you can install java after booting, IF you have network access the ubuntu repositories."
[01:09] <lfaraone> maxb: I don't want the contents recorded to the disk. ever.
[01:09] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, yeah it might just be a setting, I've never messed with the ssh defaults and I've only gotten disconnected once in 6 months
[01:09] <moose86> u guys know aydin?
[01:09] <lfaraone> maxb: maybe I mean fifo.
[01:09] <zurn> got a question: disk usage analyser says i have 8gb free, gpartd says i have 8gb free, but its showing that my drive is full (e.g. error saying cant write to disk, full) ideas?
[01:09] <maxb> lfaraone: Try mkfifo then
[01:09] <Roasted> Question about USB Pen Drives with Ubuntu. I was looking for a way to somehow make a USB flash drive "act" as a LiveCD... Is there a way to do that? Or is the only USB Pen Drive Ubuntu option just with actually doing a full blown install on it?
[01:09] <EvilAIM> ok, I got it
[01:09] <EvilAIM> I connected my other monitor and changed it back
[01:09] <EvilAIM> thanks all
[01:09] <Droopsta915> my firefox seams very slow to open up windows, can I reinstall it?
[01:10] <zurn> Droopsta915: you can delete your profile or make a new one and see if its any faster
[01:10] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, what should i do? (I didnt change anything i just set up ubuntu server 8.04 and installed it with that)
[01:10] <BlackCoffee> i'm having trouble with my desktop effects,when i select the "extra option" the top of all windows goes away,meaning the close,minimize,maximize/restore button disapear
[01:10] <lfaraone> maxb: thanks.
[01:10] <BlackCoffee> anyone knows what might be going wrong?
[01:10] <KillerOrca> master, are you connecting via wireless or wired?
[01:10] <maxb> Roasted: If you have an Ubuntu computer handy, the usb-creator package is a program to write a livecd iso onto a usbstick doing appropriate format tweaks
[01:10] <Droopsta915> zurn: Sorry, what do you mean by profile?
[01:10] <mobiGeek> zurn: disk quotas enabled?
[01:10] <lfaraone> puff: and you don't have network access?
[01:10] <zurn> Droopsta915: firefox has profiles
[01:10] <Roasted> zurn - question while you brought up profile. Is your "profile" in Ubuntu considered everything in your home directory, especially hidden files?
[01:11] <lfaraone> puff: and the desktop cd lacks java too :)
[01:11] <master> wried
[01:11] <moose86> u guys know aydin?
[01:11] <moose86> u guys know aydin?
[01:11] <moose86> i owe him something
[01:11] <FloodBot2> moose86: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:11] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, well it might also be some settings on your windows box, have you tried from other boxes?
[01:11] <moose86> soz
[01:11] <Roasted> maxb - I tried that, I'm on an ubuntu machine right now with a dell laptop next to me with no optical drive I'm trying to get linux on. I  just bought a brand new 8gb flash drive and installed ubuntu to it with the create usb startup disk option, but my laptop is just hanging with a flashing dot.
[01:11] <Roasted> maxb  - I thought I did something wrong nad maybe didnt follow proper procedure so I figured I'd ask.
[01:11] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, no.
[01:11] <maxb> Roasted: profile has no meaning to Ubuntu in general. profile in this case refers to its meaning specifically in the context of Firefox
[01:11] <zurn> mobiGeek: no, no quotas
[01:12] <KillerOrca> master, do you have a wireless option, or did you try any other ports on the router?
[01:12] <zurn> Droopsta915: from the command line, run "firefox --profilemanager" and make a new profile, see if its full
[01:12] <lfaraone> moose86: no, we don't.
[01:12] <master> no just wire
[01:12] <KillerOrca> master, what about other ports on the router?
[01:12] <Roasted> maxb - Oh, I see. I work in IT Support with mostly XP machines, so I have to deal with "default profiles" and stuff so each student tha logs into a computer has the EXACT same desktop icons, home page, etc. I was just curious how this would be handled in Ubuntu if we had Ubuntu machines instead of XP. How could you make a "default profile" for all students that log in via active directory on a domain? Is there an answer?
[01:13] <zurn> mobiGeek: let me correct that statement, i dont think so, are quotas enabled by default
[01:13] <puff> lfaraone: I have to unplug ten linux boxes currently running funky custom "facilitized" fedora installs, drive them 10 hours to a secure facility, plug them back together in a self-contained network without external network access, and run a resource-intensive java-based simulation.
[01:13] <mobiGeek> is there any way to turn off gdm in ubuntu 8.10?  I use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" but xinit and X and failsafeXinit are all still running.
[01:13] <mobiGeek> zurn: i doubt it.
[01:13] <puff> The funky fedora install is the reason for using a live CD instaead - can't just unplug them because they'll refuse to work right without various servers in their current network environment.
[01:14] <lfaraone> puff: well, you want to install java *before* you unplug them.
[01:14] <puff> lfaraone: Heh, yeah.
[01:14] <lfaraone> puff: install them all with the livecd *now* and before you move install what you need.
[01:14] <Droopsta915> zurn: that command opens firefox, im at my home page (google)
[01:14] <eseven73> how do i change the resolution on the console? (Using ubuntu-server)
[01:14] <zurn> mobiGeek: any other ideas, i installed it with / being the majority of the drive (55gb) and swap partition; and of the 55gb, i have 47gb used, but it says its full... cant figure out why its seeing the last 8gb as 0k
[01:14] <moose86> anyone knows aydin???
[01:14] <moose86> anyone knows aydin???
[01:14] <moose86> anyone knows aydin???
[01:14] <puff> lfaraone: I can't just re-install them.
[01:14] <FloodBot2> moose86: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:14] <dr_willis> !fbdev |  eseven73
[01:14] <BlackCoffee> can i install different window managers on separate user profiles?
[01:14] <dr_willis> !framebuffer
[01:14] <mobiGeek> zurn: *what* says "it is full" ?
[01:15] <puff> lfaraone: Hm, on second thought, I wonder how finicky it would be to install multiboot....
[01:15] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, it might be worth it to re-configure ssh  on the ubuntu box
[01:15] <dr_willis> !framebuffer |  eseven73
[01:15] <BlackCoffee> like KDE for one user and Gnome for another user
[01:15] <eseven73> dr_willis:  ok thx :D
[01:15] <zurn> Droopsta915: it should bring up a command - did you do the "--profilemanager" part?
[01:15] <bruenig> BlackCoffee: window managers are typically installed in /usr
[01:15] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, how would i do that
[01:15] <lfaraone> bruenig: yes.
[01:15] <dr_willis> eseven73:  i normally disable the framebuffer. :) it  can slow thiongs down
[01:15] <lfaraone> bruenig: ops, sorry
[01:15] <lfaraone> BlackCoffee: yes.
[01:15] <master> the computer i'm on now is hooked up to the same link
[01:15] <zurn> mobiGeek: when i try to create a new file (even a txt file) it (nautilus) says it cant, disk full
[01:15] <lfaraone> BlackCoffee: you can change the WM in the login screen.
[01:15] <maxb> Roasted: Many flash drives ship without a partition table - they are formatted as just a single block device. Some BIOSes don't like to boot those. Insert the flash drive, and see what device name it is given - e.g. in mount. Is it something like /dev/sdc or /dev/sdc1 ?
[01:16] <eseven73> dr_willis:  ok well its too large at the moment, even for my old eyes the print is just way too big
[01:16] <BlackCoffee> cool,i'm using gnome but wanna try kde and xfce
[01:16] <Roasted> maxb - I already formatted it with fat32 in GParted before I even ran the create usb startup disk...
[01:16] <KillerOrca> Guest1511, well you could just do a 'sudo apt-get remove && purge' then reinstall it, but you might need to do it at the box itself since you would lose ssh
[01:16] <mobiGeek> dr_willis: do the framebuffer boot parms affect the way that X runs?  I keep getting errors regardless of reconfigure xserver-xorg, etc.
[01:16] <BlackCoffee> kde is supposed to be already installed and with some basic configs on ubuntu right?
[01:16] <zurn> mobiGeek: and pretty much anything i do, when it tries to write a config file (e.g. filezilla ftp program, it says "cant write xml file, disk full?")
[01:16] <JanPeter> So the only changes from 9.04 alpha 6 to beta = cloud computing and mail server stuff..
[01:17] <Roasted> maxb - hang on a second, I think I know where my error is.
[01:17] <mobiGeek> zurn: open a terminal and run the command "touch /tmp/foobar"
[01:17] <maxb> Roasted: That doesn't tell me whether you formatted the entire block devices as fat32, or a partition
[01:17] <dr_willis> mobiGeek:  at one time ther ewas a X framebuffer driver.. but thats not used much any more so the 2 are unrelated
[01:17] <oCean_> JanPeter: for jaunty discussions/issues join #ubuntu+1
[01:17] <Droopsta915> zurn: in the terminal I typed firefox --profilemanager
[01:17] <mobiGeek> dr_willis: well, I've followed the Config/Resolution wiki steps.  Any suggestion as to what to try next?
[01:17] <master> how do i check other ports
[01:18] <mbrigdan> Hello, I need some help. I tried installing postgresql, but the package broke somehow. Now it seems that it is impossible for me to remove (It fails, giving an error about pre-removal scripts)
[01:18] <Roasted> maxb - I found out what the problem was. Are you ready for the most intelligent answer ever? I have two flash drives. Both Sandisk. Both Identical. I was trying to boot from the wrong one....................
[01:18] <zurn> mobiGeek: doesnt do anything (drops to new commandline prompt
[01:18] <mobiGeek> zurn: now try:  "ls -l /tmp/foobar"
[01:18] <bruenig> mbrigdan: remove the prerm script from the dpkg database
[01:18] <dr_willis> mobiGeek:  no idea what your problem is. sorry. You could try some live cds and see if you can find a working xorg.conf from them and try that one.
[01:18] <maxb> Roasted: lol. Oh well, at least it's a problem with an easy solution :-)
[01:18] <Roasted> maxb - Currently Ubuntu is loading on my del llaptop. :)
[01:18] <macrobad> BlackCoffee: Not really. KDE is not installed by default on Ubuntu, but you can do it with 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[01:18] <mbrigdan> bruenig: How?
[01:18] <bruenig> mbrigdan: it is in /var somewhere, I forget exactly where. locate prerm
[01:19] <macrobad> BlackCoffee: and as for xfce, that is xubuntu-desktop
[01:19] <Alestan> hey, anyone know off the top of your head how to set the gateway using ifconfig?
[01:19] <mobiGeek> dr_willis: interesting.  I know that the installer run X mostly fine.  But once installed, X comes up with "unable to find a valid framebuffer device"
[01:19] <mbrigdan> bruenig: Ok, thanks
[01:19] <BlackCoffee> thanks macrobad
[01:19] <master> the funny thing it says it is connection
[01:19] <mobiGeek> dr_willis: google hasn't been overly helpful
[01:19] <zurn> mobiGeek: gives me a standard ls for it.  i just deleted a 300mb file (installer) so ive got some free space now, but its still wierd;
[01:19] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, this might answer some questions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[01:19] <dr_willis> mobiGeek:  sounds like you got X configured to use the framebuffer.. which would be odd.. what video card are you using?
[01:19] <macrobad> BlackCoffee: you're welcome :)
[01:20] <mobiGeek> dr_willis: how can I tell?
[01:20] <shawncullen> I installed openssh-server on a box and even trying to ssh to localhost I get the following error: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[01:20] <dr_willis> !nvidia | mobiGeek
[01:20] <shawncullen> any clues?
[01:20] <Alestan> I just installed the server edition and I am trying to get the ethernet configured.
[01:20] <dr_willis> mobiGeek:  the various wiki pages tell how to determins the video card.
[01:20] <zurn> mobiGeek: hardinfo (program under system \ pref.s) shows only 6gb free
[01:20] <KillerOrca> shawncullen, did you install the ssh client?
[01:20] <crazy181> Hi all, i have a question about a VPN connection on Ubuntu server 7.10, i need it to re establish in the event off a drop out anyone know how to set this up? It is a pptp vpn
[01:20] <zurn> Droopsta915: hold on
[01:20] <shawncullen> yep
[01:20]  * BlackCoffee is away installing many stuff that will amuse me.
[01:21] <KillerOrca> shawncullen, here is the how to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[01:21] <macrobad> shawncullen: tcp wrappers?
[01:21] <shawncullen> KillerOrca: read that..
[01:21] <master> i even tried a differnt net card
[01:21] <shawncullen> macrobad: ??
[01:21] <shawncullen> I'm on the same subnet under a router
[01:21] <delfick> Hello, does anyone know how I can get around this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elfutils/+bug/201075 ??
[01:21] <macrobad> shawncullen: well, if you don't know what it is, then most likely, tcp wrappers have nothing to do with your problem
[01:22] <zurn> Droopsta915: should look like this - http://bobpeers.com/img/firefox3/profile_manager.png
[01:22] <shawncullen> killerorca: it chokes on that howto at ssh localhost
[01:22] <KillerOrca> master, and all your other computers connect to the internet I'm guessing?
[01:22] <shawncullen> KillerOrca: I get the error I pasted
[01:22] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, you know what, i give up. Im giving myself a headache over emule.
[01:22] <Guest44605> and ssh
[01:22] <shawncullen> macrobad: its a fairly stock hardy install x86 desktop
[01:23] <shawncullen> and I get that error localhost or over the network from the box I'm on now
[01:23] <Guest44605> KillerOrca, even though that ubuntu guide i think helped some.
[01:23] <KillerOrca> shawncullen, so you opened up port 22 then?
[01:23] <Guest44605> SSh is more responsive at least now.
[01:23] <mezy> hmm
[01:23] <shawncullen> KillerOrca: there's no firewall in the base install of ubuntu
[01:23] <macrobad> shawncullen: yes, tcpwrappers is a kind of "app-firewall" for nix machines, but it enables everything by default on Ubuntu
[01:24] <KillerOrca> Guest44605, another web based torrenter is torrentflu, but it is way old
[01:24] <shawncullen> macrobad: would it give that error or just a port 22 connection refused?
[01:24] <macrobad> shawncullen: there is one, iptables, but it also allows all the trafic by default
[01:24] <master> the others plus my phones work
[01:24] <zurn> mobiGeek: is there another way to determine why different programs show different 'free space' and which is true?
[01:24] <KillerOrca> shawncullen, are you tring to connect to ubuntu via windows over ssh?
[01:25] <KillerOrca> master, are you using dial-up?
[01:25] <shawncullen> macrobad: nope, another ubuntu box, and that box itself
[01:25] <macrobad> shawncullen: well, I don't remember the precise error, but it *does* allow you to establish a connection
[01:25] <macrobad> shawncullen: the best way to do is to run ssh and sshd in debug mode, and see what happens
[01:25] <shawncullen> macrobad: and I just checked to be sure, no one has messed with iptables or tcpwrapper
[01:25] <macrobad> sshd -D -ddd
[01:25] <shawncullen> I know I didn't and its my buddies box
[01:25] <KillerOrca> shawncullen, so you installed both parts on both machines?
[01:26] <bhior_> oi
[01:26] <master> no cable high speed
[01:26] <macrobad> ssh -ddd
[01:26] <bhior_> fudeu
[01:26] <bhior_> alguem falara Português ??
[01:26] <shawncullen> KillerOrca: I did on the local, I didn't on this, but I verified I can ssh to this localhost
[01:26] <bhior_> Brasil
[01:26] <shawncullen> KillerOrca: yep, its on this host too
[01:27] <KillerOrca> master, ok the phones part confused me, and you have opened up the network manager?
[01:27] <shawncullen> KillerOrca: I'll have to brb to run the sshd in debug mode, hafta share kbs and its on the other side of the house
[01:27] <macrobad> shawncullen: by the way, do you use key or password authentication?
[01:28] <macrobad> shawncullen: check if ~/.ssh is not readable to anyone but you
[01:28] <KillerOrca> The minute I figure out wake on lan this is going to be much easier
[01:28] <master> i have vonage and magic jack phones they work off the net
[01:29] <KillerOrca> master, ok but you opened up the network manager to see if it is working?
[01:30] <Droopsta915> zurn: found it ...firefox -profilemanager
[01:30] <fbc> what is recommend to make you lapto finger print reader to work with ubuntu?
[01:30] <Droopsta915> zurn: What am I looking for?
[01:30] <zurn> Droopsta915: oh well, it works with both since - and double -- for me
[01:30] <zurn> Droopsta915: make a new profile open it (rather than your default)
[01:31] <zurn> Droopsta915: surf around, see if its any quicker; if so, copy your bookmarks over
[01:31] <Droopsta915> zurn:Does give me a fresh new start?
[01:31] <Nasra> is there a way to do shortcuts with the keyboard for Ubuntu?
[01:31] <master> the one  on the task bar
[01:31] <Nasra> where/
[01:31] <Nasra> master: where/
[01:31] <KillerOrca> master, yes open that up and see what the status is
[01:31] <zurn> Droopsta915: yea
[01:32] <jfir> does anyone know why my monitor resolution would be set to be 1px off what it's supposed to be. my xorg.conf says 1920x1200, but the monitor OSD reports 1921x1200
[01:32] <jfir> i think it's causing some blur on the display
[01:32] <crazy181> Hi all need help, i have a vpn connection (PPTP) that i need to reconect if it drops for any reason at all, can anyone help?
[01:32] <shawncullen> KillerOrca: macrobad: it didn't create sshd user for privilege separation, i created and its all better, weird problem
[01:33] <Tamnakz> Can anyone help me with IP issues?
[01:33] <fbc> jfir,  so change your xorg.conf to read the correct resolution :-)
[01:33] <Droopsta915> Can I uninstall firefox and reinstall through synaptic
[01:33] <fbc> Droopsta915, yeah
[01:33] <jfir> fbc: it does read the correct resolution
[01:33] <Droopsta915> thanks
[01:33] <mobiGeek> dr_willis: I have a Matrox MGA G200e.   /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows that it loads mga_drv.so (v1.4.9).  THen it attempts to open /dev/fb0, fb1, ... fb7 then exits with "Unable tof find a vaild frramebuffer device"
[01:33] <clearscreen1> Can someone clarify this for me? Jaunty Jackalope apparently is ubuntu testing v9.10, but ubuntu has a 6month release cycle.. with releases in april/october.. why is it that karmic koala is also 9.10 but will be released in october?
[01:34] <fbc> jfir,  make the change in xorf config and change it.
[01:34] <jfalco> Jaunty beta live cd?? Or is it dvd only????
[01:34] <master> it has as all the ip adderss  and enabled
[01:34] <fbc> what is recommend to make you laptop finger print reader to work with ubuntu?
[01:34] <JanPeter> gangsta you dont need it
[01:34] <clearscreen1> Isn't it so that testing will be retagged to 'stable' in april, and named 'Karmic Koala'?
[01:34] <clearscreen1> by testing I mean jaunty
[01:34] <jfir> fbc: change it to what... the wrong resolution?
[01:34] <ripps> clearscreen1 Jaunty is 9.04, Karmic is 9.10
[01:34] <jfir> fbc: it's already set correctly
[01:35] <fbc> jfir, change it to 1921.. what your osd reports. it's not going to damage it.. promise.
[01:35] <ripps> Jaunty is in beta, Karmic isn't even in alpha yet.
[01:35] <clearscreen1> ripps: aha. is it worth it to start upgrading to jaunty? or will it bring compatibility issues when it becomes 'stable'?
[01:35] <JediMaster> don't suppose anyone knows about the SCTP protocol?
[01:35] <KillerOrca> master, it seems like everything should be working correctly, are you sure the browser just isn't set to work offline?
[01:35] <Droopsta915> When uninstalling firefox through synaptic, do I uninstall anything with the word firefox init?
[01:36] <macrobad> fbc: fingerprints are actually not as secure as they might look like: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/04/german_minister.html
[01:36] <jfir> fbc: is this normal? i have an identical monitor next to it in an nvidia twinview setup. the other monitor says 1920x1200 on the OSD and it looks ok
[01:36] <ripps> clearscreen1: it worth it in that you help make it stable for everyone else by finding and reporting any bugs before release.
[01:36] <macrobad> fbc: but still, I second your question
[01:36] <zurn> got a question: df say 6gb free, disk usage analyser says 8gb free, gpartd says 8gb free, when i get down to 4gb (so df 2gb free, disk usage & gparted 4gb free) it starts giving me error "28 No space left on device" - IDEAS?
[01:36] <jfir> fbc: i'll try it and restart anyway
[01:36] <JanPeter> April 23rd - 9.04 official release
[01:36] <ripps> clearscreen1: I'm using Jaunty now, and it's pretty good.
[01:36] <fbc> jfir, that way you can check if you bluring problem goes away...  also if your connected through your vga cable that a normal problem, if your connected through the digital cable you would get the right resolution.
[01:36] <david_> join #ubuntu-es
[01:36] <jfir> fbc: i'm on dvi
[01:36] <zurn> Droopsta915: if you are using synaptic - you can just reinstall
[01:37] <fbc> ok, then it's odd why your getting that resolution of your osd reports a larger/better resolution.
[01:37] <david_> necesito entrar al canal de ubuntu en español
[01:37] <fbc> jfir, but it won't break it to try...
[01:37] <clearscreen1> ripps: I don't mind my system failing and reporting the bug. I'm just worried that the transition process from intrepid to jaunty will be different than from jaunty testing to jaunty stable
[01:37] <fbc> david_, ubuntu-es
[01:37] <david_> si
[01:37] <KillerOrca> master, I have to go, sorry, good luck
[01:38] <fbc> david_, then go to that channel (entonces vete a ese canal)
[01:38] <david_> no se como entrar
[01:38] <fbc> david_, /join #ubuntu-es
[01:38] <ripps> clearscreen1: I upgraded to Jaunty over a month ago when it was in only alpha3, I haven't had any trasition troubles with the upgrade.
[01:38] <crazy181> anyone in her had to deal with pptp vpn dropouts?
[01:38] <master> lime wire  the weather from screenlets and browsers will not connect
[01:38] <clearscreen1> ripps: alright cool, I'll give it a try
[01:39] <ripps> clearscreen1: Make sure to backup any important files, just in case.
[01:39] <Droopsta915> zurn:Does the reinstall delete everything and start with a fresh new firefox?
[01:39] <Mr_Pink> Anyone get the bluetooth device working on a Compaq V6000?
[01:39] <BlackCoffee> i'm having trouble with my desktop effects,when i select the "extra option" the top of all windows goes away,meaning the close,minimize,maximize/restore button disapear
[01:39] <Droopsta915> zurn:Ill just do it thank for the help.
[01:39] <Mr_Pink> Mine doesn't show up as a device on the bluetooth application
[01:41] <Roasted> Question - I just booted up to my LiveCD ISO image that I have on my USB flash drive as a startup disk. The laptop is hanging here at (initramfs) with a flashing underscore. What can I do toget this laptop to boot?
[01:43] <macrobad> BlackCoffee: install compizconfig-settings-manager to get precise control over desktop effects. The top of all windows is called "window decoration", and you'll have to check its settings, I suppose.
[01:43] <Ace2> hey room
[01:44] <macrobad> hi, Ace2
[01:44] <Ace2> macrobad - what's the subject?
[01:44] <jatt> #emacs
[01:44] <DasEi> ﻿Arthur_:did you install 8.10 with an own /home ?
[01:45] <Alestan1> Hey all:  I just installed ubuntu server.  I am trying to get ubuntu desktop (gnome) installed as well, so that I have a GUI to use.  When I try to, it says "E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop".  I have internet access working properly.
[01:45] <onceuponastack> Alestan1: sudo aptitude install gnome
[01:46] <onceuponastack> try that in terminal
[01:46] <phaer> Alestan1: which repositorys do you have enabled?
[01:46] <macrobad> Ace2: ubuntu, and related problems. C'mon, what's the name of the room? :-)
[01:47] <Alestan1> phaer:  I went to /etc/apt/sources.list and enabled all the ones listed there
[01:47] <keithclark> Can one change the background individually for each desktop?
[01:47] <Ace2> macrobad - sorry...
[01:47] <onceuponastack> Alestan1: reboot the machine and go into terminal, run that command and see if that works.
[01:47] <Alestan1> mkay, will do.  thanks
[01:48] <iceroot> Alestan1: sudo apt-get update
[01:48] <onceuponastack> Alestan1: np
[01:48] <iceroot> Alestan1: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:48] <Ace2> macrobad - I'm now chating from a winXP.. but I became a kubuntu user since october of past year
[01:48] <onceuponastack> Alestan1: right do an update first
[01:48] <onceuponastack> my bad
[01:48] <onceuponastack> The gnome command works for me
[01:48] <onceuponastack> Alestan1: iceroot is correct with the full command.
[01:49] <macrobad> Ace2: It must have been refreshing, but I bet it felt very unusual.
[01:49] <Ace2> is that true, everything that works in KU buntu, works on U buntu too? because both of them are a debian linux?
[01:49] <JanPeter> kde apps and gnome apps
[01:49] <iceroot> Ace2: yes
[01:49] <hbx_> whats the command to start openssl as a service
[01:49] <JanPeter> incompatiblity without certain files
[01:49] <iceroot> Ace2: but kde using qt, gnome using gtk+
[01:49] <lstarnes> Ace2: yes, but because they're both ubuntu variants, not because they're both based on debian
[01:50] <Ace2> in the begining I had troubles with root password... and other adding softwares...
[01:50] <DasEi> ﻿Ace2:generally yes, but libs differ, so for stabiltiy it's better to saty withing one type
[01:50] <Alestan1> looks like rebooting and then apt-get update fixed it
[01:50] <Ace2> but it were all gone when I reinstall the system....
[01:50] <iceroot> Alestan1: you dont have to reboot a linux-system. only if you change the kernel
[01:50] <Alestan1> least it has found the sources this time around
[01:51] <phaer_> Alestan1: fine :)
[01:51] <Ace2> when you say ' stay within one type' you mean 'not dual boot of buntus' right?
[01:51] <Mr_Pink> My bluetooth device doesn't show up in the bluetooth application on Ubuntu. I am almost positive I have bluetooth on my laptop though
[01:52] <edy> hello whats the difference between livecd and livedvd
[01:52] <DasEi> !who | ace2
[01:52] <iceroot> Ace2: you can switch between gnome andd kde in one installation at the login-man ager
[01:52] <bopr> my nvidia accelerated gaphics driver v177 likes to crash every few bootups.. is there a different one I can use? v96 and v173 are a bit better but what happened to the drivers in between?????
[01:52] <iceroot> edy: one is a cd, one is a dvd
[01:52] <Alestan1> live cd boots from cd, dvd boots from dvd
[01:52] <iceroot> edy: dvd has more stuff
[01:52] <cain> i got my ubuntu working but i need to download java. when i did it downloaded it to desktop as a bin any idea on what i need to do
[01:52] <iceroot> cain: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[01:52] <iceroot> cain: or jre
[01:53] <iceroot> cain: use the paketmanager not any files you downloaded
[01:53] <DasEi> ﻿Ace2: my answer^ concerned using mixed kubu -xubu -gnome packages
 BlackCoffee: install compizconfig-settings-manager to get precise control over desktop effects. The top of all windows is called "window decoration", and you'll have to check its settings, I suppose.<<---you truly are the king of kings
[01:53] <Ace2> UBOTTU and DASEI: sorry.. I was typing to 'macrobad'... and my lasts 2 sentences I forgot to add his name
[01:53] <waffleman> how do you install java plugin for firefox?
[01:54] <macrobad> BlackCoffee: :-P
[01:54] <iceroot> waffleman: sudo apt-get install java-sun6-jre
[01:54] <cain> where is paketmanager i am a total newbie to linux
[01:54] <phaer_> in my (small) office, we have got a netgear readynas recently. Did anyone try to install evolution-data-server on a similar hardware and if i do so, would it work to read email on to computer s at one time?
[01:54] <Ace2> waffleman.. I believe inside the firefox.. not exaclty in the system
[01:54] <iceroot> cain: its apt-get or synaptic in the gui
[01:54] <bopr> baww no help :(
[01:54] <lstarnes> cain: system > administration > synaptic package manager
[01:54] <iceroot> !synaptic | cain
[01:54] <Ace2> waffleman - firefox window, 'tools / add-ons'
[01:54] <BlackCoffee> im assuming that once i install compizconfig it will turn out on the systrm tab menu?
[01:54] <iceroot> !apt | cain
[01:54] <cain> thx i appreciate your help
[01:54] <cappicard> anyone know of a morphing software for images (to create an animated morph). gap doesn't work with gimp 2.6
[01:55] <iceroot> cain: np
[01:55] <macrobad> BlackCoffee: System->Preferences->Advaced Desktop Effect Settings
[01:56] <BlackCoffee> great
[01:56] <Guest263> hey... i've started getting kernel panics since my last update (laptop on 8.10)
[01:56] <Guest263> are there any known issues?
[01:56] <iceroot> Guest263: kernel from repos?
[01:57] <Guest263> yes, 2.6.27-11-generic
[01:57] <iceroot> Guest263: using and update with apt-get upgrade?
[01:57] <Guest263> smp
[01:57] <Mr_Pink> My bluetooth device doesn't show up in the bluetooth application on Ubuntu. I am almost positive I have bluetooth on my laptop though.Can anyone help?
[01:57] <Guest263> yes, did an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:57] <edy> iceroot important stuff???????
[01:57] <iceroot> Guest263: what is the exactly error?
[01:57] <iceroot> edy: dont think so
[01:57] <sputnik> no error... it just locks
[01:58] <sputnik> flashy  LEDs on the keyboard
[01:58] <sputnik> nothing is written to messages
[01:58] <sputnik> i've had the laptop for a good 3 years with no issues until this last update
[01:58] <iceroot> sputnik: then its not possible to know what is the error for us
[01:58] <sputnik> ok, just wondering if maybe other people were seeing the same thing
[01:59] <chop> this latitude gets hot as hell lol
[01:59] <X_o> do i have to install zd1211-firmware on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[01:59] <sputnik> I don't expect a diagnosis from "my laptop is crashing, halp!" :)
[01:59] <Roasted> Question - I just booted up to my LiveCD ISO image that I have on my USB flash drive as a startup disk. The laptop is hanging here at (initramfs) with a flashing underscore. What can I do toget this laptop to boot?
[01:59] <sputnik> any suggestions on rolling back the update?
[02:00] <sputnik> just look in /var/cache/apt and install earlier versions of everything?
[02:01] <X_o> do i have to install zd1211-firmware on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[02:02] <DasEi> Roasted: might try :
[02:02] <DasEi> !bootoptions
[02:02] <porter1> What's the proper build and target options for ubuntu when running a configure file? I'm running x86_64 and I want it to be x86 as well...
[02:02] <aixenv> does ubuntu intrepid v8.10 support SSD?
[02:02] <iceroot> aixenv: yes
[02:02] <aixenv> anyone using ?
[02:02] <iceroot> aixenv: like any other ubuntu-version
[02:02] <DasEi> Roasted: might try :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[02:02] <iceroot> aixenv: yes, me but with 8.04
[02:03] <aixenv> im curious about read speed tests
[02:03] <aixenv> how would you compare it to a 7200rpm sata?
[02:03] <iceroot> aixenv: depends on the drive!??
[02:03] <aixenv> hrm. why would the drive manufact impact speed?
[02:04] <DasEi> aixenv: hdparm provides such options, but read the manual carefully before using that cmd
[02:04] <aixenv> im just talkin abotu write/read speeds
[02:04] <aixenv> DasEi: i dont have one yet :)
[02:04] <DasEi> man hdparm
[02:04] <iceroot> aixenv: hdparm -t device
[02:04] <iceroot> aixenv: to test the speed
[02:04] <aixenv> ill rephrase.. i dont have "ubuntu" yet
[02:05] <DasEi> aixenv: so, yes and yes , and...
[02:05] <iceroot> aixenv:  Timing buffered disk reads:   90 MB in  3.04 seconds =  29.61 MB/sec  (asus eeepc 701 g4)
[02:05] <farlig> hi, is anyone good at OCR and tesseract?
[02:05] <iceroot> !anyone | farlig
[02:05] <keithclark> I have a laptop here with a widescreen but I'm having trouble playing a dvd in full widescreen
[02:05] <sputnik> weird... nothing i updated could cause this.  all ghostscript updates
[02:05] <sputnik> bloody hell
[02:06] <gyroscope> *bye
[02:06] <iceroot> keithclark: using which player? vlc works fine with widescreen
[02:06] <farlig> how do i add special characters to tesseract? i want the swedish charset with the extra letters åäö to work with the program
[02:06] <sputnik> does an update through X11 store packages somewhere other than /var/cache/apt when it downloads then?
[02:06] <Roasted> DasEi - Another question, sort of related, sort of not. I'm trying my same flash drive to boot to a desktop. Half of the time, it boots with the LiveCD image that's on the USB flash drive, as expected. The otehr half, it just says I/O Error. But if I reboot once or twice it comse back and works. Weird???
[02:06] <sputnik> using update manager
[02:06] <keithclark> iceroot: doesn't seem to
[02:06] <iceroot> sputnik: no
[02:06] <iceroot> sputnik: you can delete them with sudo apt-get clean
[02:07] <DasEi> ﻿Roasted:check the UNmounted stick (f.e. from live-cd) with e2fsck
[02:07] <DasEi> or:
[02:07] <DasEi> !fsck
[02:08] <sputnik> right.  was just looking at the dates on thiose files to see what was last installed
[02:08] <sputnik> hoping to find something that looked like it could cause a kernel panic
[02:08] <Roasted> DasEi - Can I force a file system check on the flash drive while plugged into my Ubuntu desktop I'm typing with now? Or does it have to be done during power up/down?
[02:09] <DasEi> ﻿Roasted:I sometimes experienced probs with same stick on different comps ( they got altered by use), so always a good idea to have a copy on a second one (dd)
[02:09] <keithclark> iceroot: thanks for trying though.
[02:09] <TommyCorn> which is the general small talk channel?
[02:09] <DasEi> !fsck , again Roasted
[02:09] <iceroot> !ot | TommyCorn
[02:09] <DasEi> !fsck
[02:09] <Roasted> DasEi - Well I guess using a USB flash drive as a way to install Ubuntu in the future on mutliple machines kind of makes me out of luck, huh?
[02:09] <TommyCorn> iceroot: ty
[02:10] <iceroot> TommyCorn: np
[02:10] <DasEi> Roasted: don't think so
[02:10] <DasEi> Roasted: I spoke of using them as os on different comps
[02:11] <Roasted> What if I set it so theres NO extra space on the usb flash drive for additional storage for settings? When I created it it asked me how much space I wanted to allocate for system settings.
[02:11] <BlackCoffee> desktop effects still not working,actually they're not working since i typed   gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true   on the desktop....
[02:11] <pedahzur> I've set up printers in Ubuntu before, but this time around I had to resort to using Cups to set it up (it was an SMB printer). Test pages work fine, and my user can print to the printer, but *no* cups printers are listed in the drop down (i.e. Kate's print dialog) for another user. I've never seen this. Can someone point me in the direction of what I need to check? I assume it's permissions, but what and where?
[02:11] <BlackCoffee> anyway to reverse that?
[02:11] <DasEi> Roasted: what size has the stick ?
[02:12] <afallenhope> anyone know where the netinet/ip_fw.h in ubuntu? I can't find it anywhere
[02:12] <Roasted> DasEi - 4gb
[02:13] <DasEi> Roasted: that's big enough, unless you don't put lot's of additional stuff on it, can check with df
[02:13] <icebreacker> goodnight for you!
[02:13] <maxagaz> how to check if a system is 32 or 64 bits ?
[02:14] <phaer_> maxagaz: uname
[02:14] <DasEi> Roasted: but as they are cheap, it's a good idea to have a similar backup. though usbcreator is very convienient, too
[02:14] <Roasted> DasEi - Yeah, but the create usb startup disk option I remember being defaulted as 128mb. I wonder if it's somehow writing system settings to that portion of the flash drive and it interferes with other computers like I'm experiencing.
[02:14] <macrobad> BlackCoffee: So, you enabled Metacity's compositing manager instead of Compiz's one... Imho, the easiest solution is to revert the setting from 'true' to 'false', and restart X server (Ctrl+Alt+BkSp)
[02:14] <maxagaz> phaer_, what about this: Linux xuandu 2.6.24-23-server #1 SMP Thu Nov 27 19:19:15 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux ?
[02:14] <pedahzur> maxagaz: uname -m
[02:14] <afallenhope> who knows where "netinet/ip_fw.h" is located at?
[02:15] <phaer_> maxagaz: 32bit, if you dont see 64 somewhere ;)
[02:15] <DasEi> Roasted: might be if use it as a OS
[02:15] <pedahzur> maxagaz: That will give you i686 if 32 or x86_64 if 64
[02:15] <macrobad> afallenhope:  apt-file search ip_fw.h
[02:15] <pedahzur> maxagaz: of course this will be different if you're running on sparc, powerpc, etc.
[02:15] <Roasted> DasEi - I jsut don't see how my USB flash drive with the LiveCD ISO on it would act any differently than an actual LiveCD...
[02:16] <macrobad> afallenhope: he knows!
[02:16] <dreamy> installin e17 (unstable) can be risky for the system generaly ?  or can it just migfth not work . and i can eazily select another window manager from the session and be safe?
[02:16] <macrobad> afallenhope: libuclibc-dev: /usr/i386-uclibc-linux/include/netinet/ip_fw.h
[02:16] <sputnik> AHA!
[02:16] <maxagaz> phaer_, pedahzur, thanks
[02:16] <phaer_> maxagaz: np
[02:16] <pedahzur> maxagaz: sure
[02:16] <sputnik> i found a dpkg.log.  I did install a bunch of stuff yesterday that could be causing the kernel panics.  how do i install an older version of a package?
[02:17] <DasEi> Roasted: the lives - as it's not writeable, holds changes in ram, a usb is writeable ..
[02:17] <afallenhope> macrobad, thanks
[02:18] <Roasted> DasEi - There's an option here to discard any additional changes upon shut down. Maybe that would help my case and keep the actual LiveCD ISO on the USB flash drive the same way after installing on 30 computers as it was the day I made it. Maybe?
[02:18] <macrobad> afallenhope: np. apt-file is something everybody should be aware of :)
[02:18] <BlackCoffee> macrobad: ya could've told me i was going to logoff LOL i really freaked out for about two secs
[02:19] <drewmeigs1> could anyone help me with nrpe?
[02:19] <DasEi> Roastd:yes, but still won't prevent fs-errors (flash mem is not as reliable as f.e. hd)
[02:19] <BlackCoffee> btw,it worked,so again,thanks
[02:20] <macrobad> BlackCoffee: :) Well, basically restarting X server equals to logging off from any graphical environments. Sry, I forgot to clarify that point.
[02:20] <afallenhope> macrobad, I was trying to compile something and kept getting that issue. now I should be able to comile it and play ^_^
[02:20] <macrobad> afallenhope: great!
[02:20] <puff> Hm, I'm trying to bring this machine up with a live CD (8.10), and both "try it before installing" and "check CD" give me a popup with simply "/casper/vmlinuz"'
[02:20] <Roasted> DasEi - well, that was a bust. Just formatted the flash drive, made a new USB startup disk, booted to it for the FIRST TIME on an HP dc5100, BAM - first try, I/O errorl ike before. Guess that doesnt work after all!
[02:20] <drewmeigs1> anyone familiar with nagios?
[02:21] <afallenhope> macrobad, Can't get http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Contents-amd64.gz (404)
[02:21] <Slipstream> 'Lo all
[02:21] <DasEi> Roasted: I had just one successfull (ou of one) tries with usb-creator, worked fine, but the farmer ones worked well :
[02:21] <DasEi> !usb
[02:22] <rdumas> yes I did it
[02:22] <rdumas> high everyone
[02:23] <bruenig> !hi
[02:23] <Roasted> DasEi -  USB Creator is what I'm using. I guess it's just hit or miss with certain PCs. This dc5100 works half the time, the other half it doesnt. I dont have that many computers sitting around to test it otherwise.
[02:23] <shadey4> i need some help. i got an error message and couldn't log into gnome. it was an ~/.xsession-errors file. it said mkdtemp: private socket dir: permission denied. I did some searching on the internet and I'm pretty sure the partition with Ubuntu is full. i ran a command chmod a+w something, it just changed the error message to cannot find a safe socket path in /tmp.
[02:23] <macrobad> afallenhope: I don't remember there were any Contents-*.gz in ubuntu repos. Normally, these are Packges.gz, like http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/partner/binary-amd64/Packages.gz or http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/partner/source/Sources.gz
[02:24] <afallenhope> macrobad, where do I add those?
[02:25] <DasEi> ﻿Roasted: if you're just looking for a reliable installation method, consider using the alternate netinstall, as it's less huge and easy to re-record
[02:25] <macrobad> afallenhope: I suppose the scripts you're using are not meant for Ubuntu, but you can try either of those links, or just trim the basename of a file, and browse the directories. Generally, though, you should not have to do it.
[02:26] <BlackCoffee> ok,i disabled metacity,now i can use the desktop effects but still i don't have the"close,minimize,maximize/restore" buttons on any windows
[02:26] <shadey4> continued...So I am stuck at terminal and I don't really know how to use it. If I delete files from the partition will that allow me to get into gnome? If you think that is the answer how do i delete files from terminal?
[02:27] <DasEi> ﻿Roasted: use df to confirm your idea of disk being full
[02:27] <DasEi> !trash
[02:28] <DasEi> shadey4: use df to confirm your idea of disk being full  ,sry Roasted
[02:28] <DasEi> !trash
[02:28] <Kimi> how to extract __a __b files..... ? yesterday i was asking for .001 .002 and now for this .. any diea ?
[02:28] <shadey4> sorry, but i'm a total newb, i just type df?
[02:28] <DasEi> yes
[02:29] <eboyjr> Hello, all ... Long time no see... I have a question. How can I insert my iPod without it being auto-mounted?
[02:29] <shadey4> and it will give me what? I just want to know what to do next, cuz I'm in Mandriva now and have to reboot to get into my ubuntu partition. i will have my son lnog into irc downstairs with this username.
[02:30] <jamnz> Hello...
[02:30] <eboyjr> hello...
[02:31] <zombie-robot__> what is the first two lines in /etc/hosts?
[02:31] <duvld> hello
[02:31] <Kimi> bye
[02:31] <pedahzur> zombie-robot__: doesn't really matter, why?
[02:31] <eboyjr> :P
[02:32] <zombie-robot__> i cant get apache to run my webpage
[02:32] <jamnz> Im looking for an application to run from my Ubuntu which allows me to make connections to a microsoft SQL server. Similar to MS SQL 2005 Management studio... Thanks
[02:32] <pedahzur> zombie-robot__: What error are you getting?
[02:32] <Droopsta915> Does installing an add-on to firefox slow it down at all?
[02:32] <DasEi> !who | shadey4 : check if the disk is full, then delete uneeded files
[02:32] <iceroot> Droopsta915: depending on the addon of course
[02:32] <zombie-robot__> i edited the hosts file and removed the first two lines
[02:32] <zombie-robot__> ple tell me
[02:33] <zombie-robot__> i can figure it out
[02:33] <iceroot> zombie-robot__: 127.0.0.1       localhost
[02:33] <iceroot> 127.0.1.1       eeebuntu
[02:33] <zombie-robot__> thnk you
[02:33] <iceroot> zombie-robot__: second one is the name of your computer
[02:33] <zombie-robot__> yea
[02:33] <Droopsta915> iceroot:I want to change the theme, will themes slow firefox down?
[02:33] <zombie-robot__> still cant get apache to run
[02:33] <iceroot> Droopsta915: not really
[02:34] <iceroot> zombie-robot__: error?
[02:34] <eboyjr> Droopsta915: Yes, some more than others
[02:34] <pedahzur> I've set up printers in Ubuntu before, but this time around I had to resort to using Cups to set it up (it was an SMB printer). Test pages work fine, and my user (not root!) can print to the printer, but *no* cups printers are listed in the drop down (i.e. Kate's print dialog) for another user. I've never seen this. Can someone point me in the direction of what I need to check? I assume it's permissions, but what and where?
[02:35] <zombie-robot__> whats the apache restart command?
[02:35] <iceroot> zombie-robot__: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[02:35] <eboyjr> zombie-robot__: /etc/init.d/apache restart
[02:35] <eboyjr> you beat me to it :)
[02:35] <dsdeiz> uhm, how do i install trutype fonts?
[02:36] <zombie-robot__> using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[02:36] <zombie-robot__> apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for zombie-desktop
[02:36] <zombie-robot__> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[02:36] <jamnz> Pedahzur, in a web browser type in http://localhost:631 to manage your printers and more....
[02:37] <BlackCoffee> where on compiz manager do i enable the close/minimize/maximize buttons for the windows¿?can't find it
[02:37] <dsdeiz> you might wanna check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:37] <Titan8990> BlackCoffee, that is dependant on your emerald theme
[02:38] <BlackCoffee> emerald?
[02:38] <DasEi> dsdeiz: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/
[02:38] <pedahzur> jamnz: I know about that. That's how I installed the printer in the first place.
[02:38] <pedahzur> jamnz: My user can print to it and see it in the printer list, but another user can't.  It's so weird.
[02:38] <clearscreen> I just upgraded from intrepid to jaunty. had some problems with nvidia drivers not being installed for new kernel.. got that solved... I'm now typing this from pidgin that automatically popped up, but oddly my gnome bars are missing and I cant rightclick my desktop. Help! :P
[02:39] <BlackCoffee> mmm i think i'm not following you.btw i use a personalized gnome theme.maybe that has something to do with this
[02:39] <caine607> Ye gods there's a lotta people on here.  OK, problem, I want to boot a pc desktop off of ubuntu livecd.  Got a cd from a friend, it boots up this slick GUI, I choose "try ubuntu temporarily" and after a bit I get a popup dialogue with one OK button, title is "Boot Loader" and in the dialogue it says "/casper/vmlinuz"
[02:39] <DasEi> !jaunty
[02:39] <dsdeiz> oh i was trying to install a downloaded font
[02:39] <DasEi> clearcreen^
[02:39] <clearscreen> Ah! kk
[02:39] <caine607> I thought it might be the CD, so I went and downloaded ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso, burned it to CD, same problem
[02:40] <caine607> (Note, I downloaded that via ubuntu.com, off the Gigenet mirror)
[02:40] <jamnz> Pedahzur is maybe a right's issue... look for that user ID and see what group membership and compare to one of user it works for
[02:40] <caine607> So.... what am I doing wrong?
[02:40] <Titan8990> caine607, if you are just looking the install, the alternate is more reliable
[02:40] <Titan8990> !alternate | caine607
[02:40] <pedahzur> jamnz: I've looked through /etc/group and /etc/gshadow.  My user and the other user are all in the same groups.
[02:41] <washburnello> howdy
[02:41] <caine607> Titan8990: 8-04?
[02:41] <Titan8990> caine607, 8.10 if you want
[02:41] <caine607> Titan8990: Ah, no, I'm looking for  a LiveCD
[02:41] <BlackCoffee> ok so how do i find out what emerald theme i'm using...
[02:41] <keres> _must_ you download 8.10 and do a re-install to upgrade 8.04 to 8,1?
[02:41] <caine607> This is on a fairly recent dell quad core, by the way
[02:42] <DasEi> caine607: check the download, check the cd :
[02:42] <DasEi> !md5sum
[02:42] <caine607> DasEi: How do I check the down
[02:42] <caine607> ah
[02:44] <caine607> DasEi: thanks.
[02:44] <JustinNFX> Quick question, In a tutorial I am -trying- I need to make a (directory) I am using the "mkdir" cmd but not mater where I place it, I get a error.....No File/Folder Found.
[02:44] <washburnello> does anybody know if it's possible to mount a casper.rw and pull the files out of it?
[02:44] <Brad777> Hello everyone I am having some trouble... http://paste.ubuntu.com/138671/ is the error message... it was working fine yesterday and the only thing that has changed since then is that i turned off the computer
[02:44] <DasEi> caine607: on the d/l page there you can find the hash of the file, then md5sum blahblah.iso , compare the result with the hash;  next use cd's option verify medium
[02:44] <JustinNFX> Do I need to Manually browse to the Section and m k d i r myself?
[02:44] <shadey4> i did the df, my hard drive is not full, it is only using 14%. when i try to log into gnome or kde for that matter it says that i hvae been logged in for less than 10 secs and suggest that i use failsafe
[02:44] <shadey4> any ideas?
[02:44] <BlackCoffee> i actually seem to have a new problem now.example:when i change workspaces with my mouse wheel i only see a white image instead of the typical small computer that is supposed to appear.also i was just starting synaptic and had a white image too instead of "something"
[02:44] <JustinNFX> Hmm, seems like a bunch of new people asking new people questions.
[02:44] <caine607> DasEi: thanks, in progress
[02:44] <DasEi> ﻿washburnello: casper.rw ??
[02:45] <JustinNFX> I guess I will try kubuntu even though I have ubuntu
[02:45] <pedahzur> jamnz: Never mind. The user just realized she had selected "Generic LPD" in the "print system currently used." Sorry for the noise. Thanks.
[02:45] <X_o> do i have to install zd1211-firmware on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[02:46] <washburnello> DasEi: I have a friend, who's new to Ubuntu, who has been using a liveUSB install. He set all the leftover space as file space and then tried to update it. It hasn't worked since.
[02:46] <JustinNFX> What, how can I be "banned" from kubuntu.
[02:46] <BlackCoffee> no desktop effects for me :(
[02:46] <JustinNFX> what gives.
[02:47] <JustinNFX> I think i said the word sh*t once.
[02:47] <kitche> JustinNFX: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[02:47] <Troll_Man> and if you keep yappin in here ul be banned here too
[02:47] <DasEi> ﻿washburnello: and now you want to safe files from the dead os ?
[02:47] <JustinNFX> it's been over 5 days, wow, harsh punishment
[02:47] <caine607> DasEi: any ideas on how to verify CD on windows?  I used InfraRecorder as suggested by ubuntu.com but I can't find a verify o ption.
[02:47] <washburnello> yeah
[02:47] <BlackCoffee> maybe they're republicans
[02:48] <BigCanOfTuna> New to Linux/Ubuntu here....I successfully setup pptp and can remotely access the server and a local web server. However, I can't forward traffic outside of my LAN, can anyone point me in the direction of information that might allow my traffic to be forwarded?
[02:48] <keres> how do you upgrade distros without downloading the iso and installing it?
[02:48] <keres> can you do it in a shell?
[02:48] <DasEi> caine607: there is a tool, google md5sum, then select from properties (#windows)
[02:48] <JustinNFX> Anyways, maybe you guys can help.. I am trying to use the "mkdir" command.  I get a error no such file/folder.  Do i need to make folder Manually?
[02:48] <caine607> DasEi: I verified the md5sum
[02:48] <kitche> keres: ubunt uhas a update-manager you can use
[02:48] <caine607> DasEi: it checks out as ok.
[02:48] <JustinNFX> Republicans...lol
[02:48] <caine607> DasEi: On the iso I downloade
[02:48] <keres> kitche, usage?
[02:48] <caine607> +d
[02:49] <JustinNFX> theres the rush limbaughs of irc
[02:49] <kitche> JustinNFX: if the folder that your trying to make is inside a non-existant directory you need to use mkdir -p
[02:49] <DasEi> JustinNFX: stay topic; sudo mkdir DirName doesn't work ?
[02:49] <nomasteryoda> JustinNFX, the -p means make the parent folders
[02:49] <keres> kitche, what is the syntax?
[02:50] <kitche> keres: update-manager
[02:50] <DasEi> caine607:boot the cd, installe has option check media (for burning issuses)
[02:50] <kitche> keres: I beleive the newer ubuntu's though use a different command
[02:50] <keres> kitche, that's it? i'm on 8.04 will that upgrade me to 8,1?
[02:50] <caine607> DasEi:  Check CD gets the same "boot loader" dialogue
[02:51] <BlackCoffee> last try...why can't i see my little computers when i exchange workspaces!?why don't i have minimize or maximize buttons on my window borders?why do i get blanks where there's supposed to be something,like system messages and such...
[02:51] <caine607> I used infrarecorder, it defaulted to "max speed" for burning
[02:51] <JustinNFX> This is the folder im trying to create.  Im running 64bit ubuntu, but i need to make 32bit Boxee work:  mkdir /usr/chroot/intrepid-32-bit
[02:51] <kitche>  keres you might need the -c option but I m not sure
[02:51] <DasEi> ﻿caine607: so prbly a bad burn :-(
[02:51] <kitche> JustinNFX: and does /usr/chroot exist if not you need to use the mkdir -p command
[02:51] <JustinNFX> So I would do a mkdir -p /usr/chroot/intrepid-32bit
[02:51] <washburnello> DasEi: if I copy the casper.rw to my HD and make a new liveUSB then copy it back, will that work?
[02:52] <kitche> with sudo infront JustinNFX
[02:52] <JustinNFX> Hm, wonder why they did not catch that in the tutorial since they said to make it anywhere
[02:52] <caine607> DasEi: Whats a good speed? 4x?
[02:52] <christopher> so, I have a question, I'm using the technique described here, http://technical-itch.co.uk/2006/11/06/how-to-access-your-windows-hard-drive-from-ubuntu/, to mount my windows folders on my dual booting desktop, but it seems like I need to redo thid every time it reboots. Is there a way arround this?
[02:52] <DasEi> ﻿caine607: slowest, if probs, better another burner
[02:52] <shadey4> dasei: i did the df, my hard drive is only using 14%. when i try to login into gnome it says that i have been logged in for less than 10 seconds and tells me to try failsafe. Any suggestions?
[02:52] <caine607> DasEi: thanks!
[02:52] <JustinNFX> This chat would be nice if you could use bold and italics :-)
[02:52] <JustinNFX> and smileys
[02:52] <Titan8990> !fstab | christopher
[02:53] <DasEi> washburnello: why not do a new install on usb ?
[02:53] <washburnello> DasEi: there are important files on it
[02:53] <DasEi> shadey4: so it's no diskfull, try to boot failsafe and from there an update
[02:54] <BlackCoffee> ok,it's settled.i'll hang myself in the morning.life's not worth living without decent upper window borders!
[02:54] <JustinNFX> kitche: One more things, when I was browsing nautilus I noticed that in the "file system" you can not create folder, is that normal?
[02:54] <DasEi> washburnello: I asked that above; so save them before
[02:54] <Titan8990> BlackCoffee, try turning off compiz
[02:54] <shadey4> dasei: thanks
[02:54] <kitche> JustinNFX: yes unless you open nautilus with sudo powers gksu nautilus is the command
[02:54] <compguy1011> anyone to help me install nvidia drivers?
[02:54] <BlackCoffee> turning it off eh...lemme see
[02:54] <Titan8990> BlackCoffee, or: metacity --replace
[02:55] <BlackCoffee> actually metacity made quite a mess moments ago
[02:55] <washburnello> DasEi: well, the file's don't show on the mounted USB. just the casper.rw
[02:55] <Titan8990> BlackCoffee, metacity is the default for gnome
[02:55] <JustinNFX> kitche: what is the directory that get you to the desktop, and where would you if you had to normaly install a program install it?
[02:55] <DasEi> washburnello: mount the drive, f.e. from a live and copy the files to hd or other medium
[02:55] <christopher> I can't find the file /ect/fstab
[02:55] <Titan8990> christopher, /etc/fstab
[02:56] <christopher> that was a typo
[02:56] <washburnello> DasEi: ok, I'll try that
[02:56] <christopher> I still can't find it
[02:56] <washburnello> DasEi: thanks
[02:56] <Titan8990> christopher, alright a UNIX filesystem is like this
[02:56] <JustinNFX> Where do you install most files under usr/bin/lib
[02:56] <BlackCoffee> Titan8990;i had put a command on the term
[02:56] <BlackCoffee> gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true
[02:56] <keithclark> You know what?  I've tried to play this dvd here.....it does not work. XP=Work....I don't know what else to do.  Sorry..
[02:56] <kitche> JustinNFX: ~/Desktop is the fodler ~ means home and I usually install to /usr but if it's a deb it will go into /usr anyways unless it's setup to go to /usr/local
[02:57] <BlackCoffee> but it didn't work
[02:57] <BlackCoffee> it made things worse since i couldn't even switch between effects modes
[02:57] <Titan8990> christopher, / <---- is the root of the entire filesystem. /etc <---- indicates a directory in root of the filesytem
[02:57] <JustinNFX> Desktop does not have a full directory?
[02:57] <Frolicsome> !tab
[02:57] <Titan8990> christopher, then fstab is the file in the /etc directory
[02:57] <BlackCoffee> maybe i have to disable metacity totally before using compiz?
[02:58] <TommyCorn> !help
[02:58] <christopher> I know that
[02:58] <Titan8990> BlackCoffee, no
[02:58] <Titan8990> BlackCoffee, compiz-manager is the command to start compiz
[02:58] <dick-richardson> I'm helping a friend compile code from source...but can't remember the command to run to build a .deb instead of make install...anyone know what I'm talking about?
[02:58] <Titan8990> BlackCoffee, its a script and includes --replace so it replaces current window manager
[02:58] <Jocke1> In OpenOffice.org Calc, is it possible to only allow some specific input in a column (or a set of cells)? In one column I only want to be able to enter "A" "C" and "D".
[02:59] <kitche> BlackCoffee: fusion-icon is the command but if you want you can kill metacity then just do compiz --replace &
[02:59] <macrobad> dick-richardson: checkinstall
[02:59] <dick-richardson> macrobad, you are the man!!!
[02:59] <macrobad> np
[02:59] <Titan8990> Jocke1, might have better luck on #openoffice.org
[02:59] <Frolicsome> quit
[03:00] <alienjeff> http://ubuntard.com/
[03:00] <Jocke1> Titan8990: Yes. But that channel has been quiet for six hours...
[03:00] <BinkyTheClown> alienjeff: lol
[03:00] <alienjeff> ;)
[03:00] <EmoSpice> alienjeff: lulz :)
[03:00] <kitche> alienjeff: go back to #archlinux unless you want that to be spammed as well :)
[03:01] <soreau> Why doesn't the alt cd's have grub installed to use? How is grub-installer to be used?
[03:01] <BinkyTheClown> EmoSpice: hey there
[03:01] <BlackCoffee> can't figure it out
[03:01] <alienjeff> kitche:  Thanks for the "welcome." I post a useful URI and that's the thanks I get?
[03:01] <EmoSpice> BinkyTheClown: 'lo
[03:01] <Stythys> alienjeff: yeah, ungrateful lot
[03:01] <JustinNFX> Hey, I am trying to run Elisa media center, but half pics you can't see or there whacked, is it because I am running 64bit buntu, or have compfiz on???
[03:02] <Stythys> JustinNFX: yes, 64-bit ruins the media center
[03:02] <LjL> alienjeff: no, absolutely
[03:02] <christopher> Titan8990: I still don't see it for some reason, and I am in the /etc dirrectory, is it hidden or something
[03:02] <alienjeff> ty LjL
[03:02] <BlackCoffee> Now i have compiz running,but still no min/max/close buttons on the windows.and the blank messages/images still appear
[03:02] <LjL> !etiquette > alienjeff    (alienjeff, see the private message from ubottu)
[03:03] <alienjeff> !nohabla
[03:03] <christopher> oh wait, it's a file not a folder
[03:03] <n2diy> does cpu speed infuence an apt-get download? I'm planning to get a copy of Edubuntu, and I have a choice of a 500 mhz machine, or a 1.2g machine.
[03:03]  * christopher faccepalms
[03:03] <keithclark> Ok, no takers on the DVD no playback problemm?
[03:03] <compguy1011> got a black screen for somereason after a hwinfo but back...
[03:03] <javaJake> n2diy: no, it shouldn't
[03:04] <afallenhope> anyone know where the netinet/ip_fw.h in ubuntu? I can't find it anywhere
[03:04] <n2diy> keithclark: I'm just starting down that path now, I get the FBI warning, and then a "can't read from source" error.
[03:04] <afallenhope> amd64 hardy heron 8.04.2
[03:04] <Brad777> I am having some trouble... http://paste.ubuntu.com/138671/ is the error message... it was working fine yesterday and the only thing that has changed since then is that i turned off the computer... NVIDA 9800GTX+ Superclocked edition
[03:05] <JustinNFX> aw, the TWO programs I got ubuntu for "Elisa and Boxee" both don't work under the 64 bit files system, is there really any advantage- should I just install 32-bit
[03:06] <Sagaci> how big is the beta download upgrade
[03:06] <Sagaci> in mb
[03:07] <afallenhope> anyone know where the netinet/ip_fw.h in ubuntu? I can't find it anywhere
[03:07] <Stythys> afallenhope: I stole it
[03:07] <n2diy> JustinNFX: build a test box, play with 64 bit,  on the test box, and work with a 32 bit, on your mc box?h
[03:07] <javaJake> afallenhope: still poking around, but I think it's either in glibc-source or kernel headers
[03:08] <fearful> how to make an image bigger to view text clearly on gimp?
[03:08] <kalidar> http://imagebin.org/43243 having problems with this could someone help me please?
[03:08] <JustinNFX> Atleast you can get boxee to work with 32bit it take a little hard work though *thats what i'm trying to do now*
[03:10] <BlackCoffee> lol
[03:10] <JustinNFX> SO, to make a new directory it would -  sudo mkdir -p /usr/chroot/ubuntu-32-intrepid
[03:10] <JustinNFX> ??
[03:10] <kalidar> http://imagebin.org/43243
[03:10] <kalidar> anyone help me with a libgtk problem?
[03:10] <kalidar> i alredy installed all the prober libgtk files
[03:11] <JustinNFX> Did I does it right?..lol
[03:11] <kalidar> and gtk2.0
[03:11] <afallenhope> javaJake, thanks I'm gonna install it now to check
[03:11] <javaJake> afallenhope: AFAICT, this file used to exist prior to 8.04. It's probably outdated or no longer necessary.
[03:11] <kbfz> HALLO
[03:12] <JustinNFX> Does anyone have a faster, easier, N00B, proof way of installing the netbean 6.5 .sh files off the netbeans website?
[03:12] <^^Kilroy> is there any way to rebuild a superblock?
[03:12] <javaJake> ...or the package search doesn't search source packages. :/
[03:12] <sandsmark> kbfz: O HAI
[03:13] <sandsmark> ^^Kilroy: they are usually backed up
[03:13] <kalidar> http://imagebin.org/43243<------------help me plz? allredy installed gtk2.0 and libgtk files still does this
[03:13] <JustinNFX> javajake: have you installed netbeans
[03:13] <^^Kilroy> sandsmark tried the backups. keeps giving me bad magic number error
[03:13] <sandsmark> kalidar: probably wrong version
[03:13] <afallenhope> javaJake, it's necessary for a file that I'm trying to compile lol.
[03:13] <^^Kilroy> but and fdisk -l  will show the partition info
[03:13] <kalidar> ok
[03:14] <kalidar> i installed the version they asked
[03:14] <kalidar> i think its a bit problem
[03:14] <sandsmark> weird
[03:14] <zombie_robot> i got apache running...now how do i get it to show up remotely or through an IP... local or remote
[03:14] <harryv> are there no official vmware images for 8.x?
[03:14] <gerzel> Hey I'm interested in finding a theme for my ubuntu desktop, the window decorations/titlebars specificaly.  I'm looking for a decent looking, smooth theme which makes good use of screen realestate, something mabey a little more than half as thin as the standard human theme that comes with Ubuntu
[03:14] <kalidar> as im ona 64bit system
[03:14] <gerzel> Anyone know where I can go to chat about themes and such?
[03:14] <kalidar> were would i find a 32 bit gtk
[03:14] <sandsmark> gerzel: google, gnome-look.org, kde-look.org, whatever floats your boat
[03:15] <JustinNFX> Im sorry I don't want to sound like a parrout but, is this the right way to make folder.  sudo mkdir -p /usr/chroot/ubuntu-32-intrepid
[03:15] <JustinNFX> ?????
[03:15] <sandsmark> JustinNFX: yes
[03:15] <corigo1> Not actually an Ubuntu question, but how can I do a simple traceroute like I would from DOS?
[03:15] <sandsmark> kalidar: in the repos
[03:15] <JustinNFX> thanks sandsmark!
[03:15] <sandsmark> corigo1: install mtr
[03:15] <kalidar> do you know the command for the file i need
[03:15] <sandsmark> corigo1: then run “mtr target”
[03:15] <JustinNFX> you guys are nice here..good stuff
[03:15] <sandsmark> kalidar: no
[03:15] <kalidar> cuz i allredy dl all the files the faq said to
[03:15] <kalidar> and im stumped
[03:15] <LjL> corigo1: tracepath is installed by default i believe
[03:15] <kalidar> i did everything they asked and it stil dosent work
[03:16] <corigo1> LjL that was it
[03:16] <sandsmark> kalidar: are you on 64bit ?
[03:16] <kalidar> yes
[03:16] <Khisanth> corigo1: you can also use tracepath
[03:16] <JustinNFX> is the terminal called a "shell"
[03:16] <kalidar> thats the problem i think
[03:17] <javaJake> JustinNFX: basically, yes :)
[03:17] <kalidar> i tryed linux32 sh ./et.run
[03:17] <sandsmark> JustinNFX: no
[03:17] <kalidar> but that dosent work ither
[03:17] <JustinNFX> thanks javajake!
[03:17] <sandsmark> JustinNFX: the shell runs in the terminal
[03:17] <LjL> JustinNFX: well, the shell is a program that runs on a terminal
[03:17] <sandsmark> kalidar: you need the 32bit
[03:17] <sandsmark> LjL: pwned
[03:17] <sandsmark> :D
[03:17] <kalidar> how do i get that?
[03:17] <JustinNFX> would a shell command then be what you type in the terminal?
[03:17] <sandsmark> yes
[03:17] <zombie_robot>  i got apache running...now how do i get it to show up remotely or through an IP... local or remote
[03:17] <kalidar> its not listed in libary
[03:17] <sandsmark> JustinNFX: you type commands to the shell
[03:17] <LjL> JustinNFX: you can have other programs running on the terminal, but you do usually start them from a shell
[03:17] <javaJake> *paw* mere technicalities, LjL ;)
[03:17] <sandsmark> kalidar: aptitude search libgtk, or whatever ?
[03:18] <LjL> javaJake: not really, you aren't using a "shell" when you're running say nano
[03:18] <kalidar> you mean apt-cache search i did
[03:18] <JustinNFX> thanks sandsmark!
[03:18] <kalidar> i downoaded all of them
[03:18] <kalidar> 3 times
[03:18] <sandsmark> heh
[03:18] <javaJake> LjL: mmm, perhaps... anyways, I won't argue about it :)
[03:18] <sandsmark> kalidar: is there a 32bit package ?
[03:18] <n8tuser> zombie-robot_-> you configured your apache to server on an ip other than 127.0.0.1 ?
[03:18] <javaJake> It's really not a big deal.
[03:18] <kalidar> nope it dosent say weather their bitrate or not
[03:18] <sandsmark> LjL: the shell is still running, per se
[03:18] <kalidar> just says their version
[03:18] <sandsmark> it's just suspended
[03:18] <kalidar> so i download the ones they told me to
[03:18] <kalidar> the 2.1 and the gtk 2.0
[03:18] <sandsmark> kalidar: don't et have a 64bit version ?
[03:19] <LjL> sandsmark: and i never said otherwise
[03:19] <kalidar> i dunno...
[03:19] <kalidar> i could try
[03:19] <kalidar> looking for it
 javaJake: not really, you aren't using a "shell" when you're running say nano
[03:19] <kalidar> sigh...
[03:19] <kalidar> ok thanks anyway man
[03:19] <sandsmark> kalidar: doesn't ubuntu have a package ?
[03:19] <kalidar> ill figure it out on my own
[03:19] <sandsmark> file a bug requesting it be packaged ;-)
[03:19] <kalidar> no no package for ubuntu
[03:19] <kalidar> not for enemy terratory
[03:19] <sandsmark> ( on launchpad )
[03:19] <LjL> sandsmark: and the fact that it's running implies that you're using it because...?
[03:20] <kalidar> just a .run file
[03:20] <sandsmark> LjL: try killing it :p
[03:20] <zombie-robot_> n8tuser no
[03:20] <kalidar> maby ill just stick with the games in the repositorys
[03:20] <javaJake> sandsmark: never get in an argument with an op, especially LjL. It always ends the same way. ;)
[03:20] <kalidar> when ever i try to install anything thats not in their i pretymuch cant do it
[03:21] <sandsmark> javaJake: pfff :P
[03:21] <usser> kalidar, enemy territory rocks you're missing out :)
[03:21] <n8tuser> zombie-robot_-> which ip have you configured to serve on?
[03:21] <kalidar> i know!
[03:21] <kalidar> i wana play :( but cant get working
[03:21] <histo> kalidar: et is pretty easy to get going.
[03:21] <LjL> !offtopic
[03:21] <kalidar> usser u wana take a look
[03:21] <kalidar> mabuy u can help me
[03:21] <kalidar> http://imagebin.org/43243
[03:21] <usser> kalidar, sure whats the problem?
[03:21] <histo> kalidar: just run the executable
[03:21] <kalidar> look at my imagebin
[03:21] <JustinNFX> How can I make webpages font in firefox look like they do in windows - Go to fonts and change them to Time New Roman?
[03:21] <kalidar> and tel me whats up :)
[03:22] <histo> kalidar: make sure that you have libgtk-1.2 installed
[03:22] <JustinNFX> Can I change fonts just in firefox or do I have to do it system wide?
[03:22] <usser> kalidar, you're on 64 bit, you need ia32-gtk
[03:22] <sandsmark> histo: he's on 64bit
[03:22] <kalidar> ive installled that 3 times
[03:22] <kalidar> yes~ how do i find the 32 gtk
[03:22] <javaJake> JustinNFX: edit -> preferences...
[03:22] <sandsmark> histo: and ubuntu apparently doesn't provide 32bit compatability libraries
[03:22] <kalidar> thier only listed as version numbers under the apt-cache search gtk
[03:22] <histo> sandsmark: sure it does
[03:22] <sandsmark> histo: tell kalidar where to find them :p
[03:22] <usser> kalidar, ia32-libs-gtk sorry
[03:22] <javaJake> JustinNFX: ... -> Content -> Fonts & Colors
[03:22] <JustinNFX> javajake thanks!!
[03:22] <jauntyJOL> ello mates
[03:22] <histo> kalidar: try apt-cache search libgtk1.2
[03:23] <sandsmark> jauntyJOL: yo dawg
[03:23] <jauntyJOL> Jaunty beta is out
[03:23] <kalidar> i did that allredy histo
[03:23] <jauntyJOL> ;D
[03:23] <kalidar> usser i type ia32-libs etc??
[03:23] <kalidar> in the command
[03:23] <jauntyJOL> its awesome
[03:23] <CapnCrunch> hai
[03:23] <usser> kalidar, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-gtk
[03:23] <JustinNFX> wait times new romans is the default font used in firefox, and ie7 in windows right?
[03:23] <ralphv> hai
[03:23] <kalidar> thanks alot man finaly! XD leme se how that works
[03:23] <kalidar> dont go anywhere :@ lol
[03:23] <usser> kalidar, sure :)
[03:25] <histo> kalidar: sry for my suggestion usser has you on the right track . I forgot about hte ia32 libs
[03:25] <McLovin> hi all
[03:25] <javaJake> JustinNFX: default is serif here
[03:25] <histo> kalidar: there will be others you will need
[03:25] <usser> histo, kalidar better install everything ia32 on a 64 bit system you'll need it
[03:25] <afallenhope> anyone know where the netinet/ip_fw.h in ubuntu? I can't find it anywhere
[03:25] <kalidar> kk sence usser has the game he can probs help me most
[03:25] <kalidar> usser can you pm me
[03:25] <sandsmark> usser: why ?
[03:25] <javaJake> afallenhope: did you try glib-sources?
[03:25] <kalidar> this window moves fast
[03:25] <kitche> afallenhope: it's not in any package that I can see
[03:25] <sandsmark> usser: just install what you need
[03:25] <JustinNFX> There seems to be no Times New Roman bummer well maybe I can download it off the internet you can install fonts right?
[03:25] <kalidar> and i dont know comand to private msg someone
[03:25] <usser> kalidar, nah lets keep it in the channel, i can read just fine
[03:25] <kalidar> ok
[03:25] <javaJake> JustinNFX: oh, that's in the package...
[03:25] <histo> !fonts > JustinNFX
[03:25] <kalidar> ill be back in a second
[03:25] <javaJake> !fonts
[03:25] <javaJake> Aha
[03:25] <afallenhope> javaJake, yup I did apt-get install glib-source and it never installed
[03:25] <javaJake> JustinNFX: msttcorefonts
[03:25] <CapnCrunch> ubottu: asl?
[03:25] <kitche> JustinNFX: it's in the repo msttcorefonts
[03:25] <JustinNFX> I like the windows look better for firefox sorry
[03:25] <javaJake> afallenhope: linux headers?
[03:25]  * Icebuntu ﻿Happy New Year(Gudi Padwa) (Marathi New year )
[03:25] <mrwes> Is it necessary to schedule a cron to run freshclam (clamav updater)? I see /usr/bin/freshclam -d -quiet already running
[03:25] <kalidar> couldent find package
[03:25] <kalidar> :(
[03:25] <kalidar> depressing
[03:25] <LjL> Icebuntu: not in this channel please
[03:25] <hanasaki> what do I install to play DVD's?
[03:25] <usser> sandsmark, well yea thats true, if you know what you need
[03:25] <usser> kalidar, are on intrepid?
[03:25] <JustinNFX> How do I get to that repor im sorry that im not fimilar with repo I will be taking a linux class soon.
[03:25] <kalidar> no im on apt-get
[03:26] <histo> mrwes: anyreason to even run clam? are you scanning a windows partition?
[03:26] <javaJake> JustinNFX: apt-get install msttcorefonts
[03:26] <usser> kalidar, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:26] <kalidar> 8.10
[03:26] <afallenhope> javaJake, I have the linux headers
[03:26] <afallenhope> lol
[03:26] <mrwes> Histo: Samba shares w/ several Windows machines
[03:26] <kalidar> in my screenshot you can see al my system details :P
[03:26] <histo> mrwes: ahh
[03:26] <mrwes> :)
[03:26] <javaJake> afallenhope: OK, then I'm going to guess it no longer exists.
[03:26] <afallenhope> bah.. but I neeed it lol.
[03:26] <usser> kalidar, ah nvm, ia32-libs-gtk has been merged into ia32-libs
[03:27] <usser> kalidar, try sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[03:27] <JustinNFX> Thats what I was think, but thank javajake your awesome!
[03:27] <sandsmark> eeek, one huge packge ?
[03:27] <javaJake> JustinNFX: also, you'll have to restart running programs for them to use the new font
[03:27] <kalidar> nope
[03:27] <usser> kalidar, what does it say?
[03:27] <kalidar> couldent find package ia32-libs
[03:27] <JustinNFX> They automatically show up in the firefox fonts directory?
[03:27] <frankS2> when i hit apt-get upgrade in ubuntu, alot of packages wants to get installed, how can i show the changes that has been done to them?
[03:28] <javaJake> JustinNFX: yes, once you restart firefox
[03:28] <usser> kalidar, gotta be there hang on
[03:28] <sandsmark> frankS2: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:28] <kalidar> k
[03:28] <kitche> kalidar: why are you looking for ia32-libs? since ia32 is not an architecture
[03:28] <sandsmark> LjL: wb
[03:28] <beanie77> how do you make ubunto 8.10 boot to a shell instead of gnome?
[03:28] <kalidar> cuz its what usser wants me to get cuz i need them for enemy terratory
[03:28] <javaJake> beanie77: recovery mode?
[03:28] <scunizi> frankS2: no worries.. after that do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to finish it off
[03:28] <javaJake> beanie77: unless you want to be in normal mode, but without a GUI
[03:28] <usser> kalidar, oh so you're not running 64 bit ubuntu after all?
[03:29] <kalidar> i dunno i asumed i was
[03:29] <kalidar> i had vista afteral
[03:29] <kalidar> and vista is a 62 bit system
[03:29] <JustinNFX> What is this Konquer(sp?)  browser I have heard about any good, better than Firefox?
[03:29] <chop> no
[03:29] <sandsmark> kalidar: uname -m
[03:29] <beanie77> no I just like to boot to a shell and start x manually. x crashes occasionally.
[03:29] <puff> I'm having a problem using the live CD.  This has happened twice, on a live CD I already had and on one I just burned fresh.  Both with 8.10.
[03:29] <usser> kalidar, ^
[03:29] <frankS2> apt-listchanges was what i was looking for
[03:29] <sandsmark> kalidar: does it say 42bit ?
[03:29] <chop> puff: what problem?
[03:29] <sandsmark> 42bits > *
[03:29] <kalidar> no is says i686
[03:29] <dsdeiz> haha
[03:29] <sandsmark> then something is fucked up
[03:29] <usser> kalidar, oh ok try sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2
[03:29] <sandsmark> kalidar: run ldconfig, maybe
[03:30] <raven> hi ... it seems my MAKE won't work any more.... possible and how can i find out what's going on with this?
[03:30] <puff> It boots up into the initial menu, but when I select "try without installing" or "install" I get a popup tht just says "/casper/vmlinuz"
[03:30] <sandsmark> maybe the packager screwed up
[03:30] <sandsmark> as root, of course
[03:30] <usser> kalidar, and dont run it et.ru with linux32, just ./et.run
[03:30] <kalidar> cant create temparory cash file permission denied
[03:30] <usser> kalidar, how did you even manage to get linux32 on a 32 bit system
[03:30] <chop> puff: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=681770
[03:30] <Yossi> how can i set xchat to beep when someone mentions my name like it does on windows?
[03:30] <javaJake> !init
[03:31] <kalidar> ich this txt is moveing to fast for me to read it
[03:31] <puff> chop: Yeah, more or less that.
[03:31] <kalidar> i have no idea whos talkin to me hal the time
[03:31] <kalidar> could soeone pm?
[03:31] <kalidar> i tryed the ldconfig but premission denied
[03:31] <sandsmark> kalidar: you need to run it as root
[03:31] <chop> "nd /casper/vmlinuz had failed to be copied to it correctly."
[03:31] <sandsmark> sudo ldconfig
[03:31] <javaJake> !init > beanie77
[03:31] <puff> chop: Hm but both CD burns failed?
[03:31] <kalidar> ok sudo then?
[03:31] <JustinNFX> IS there a difference between APTITUDE and AP-GET........ Also, is there a difference between PURGE and REMOVE when un-installing files?
[03:32] <sandsmark> yeah
[03:32] <kalidar> ok its doin stuff
[03:32] <usser> kalidar, try running just ./et.run without linux32
[03:32] <puff> chop: Maybe it's the brand of CD.
[03:32] <kalidar> i did that usser
[03:32] <chop> could be
[03:32] <kalidar> same error
[03:32] <sandsmark> JustinNFX: purge removes configuration files too
[03:32] <JustinNFX> Sometimes I get mixed up and don't know which to uaw
[03:32] <sandsmark> JustinNFX: and aptitude is debians second try at screwing up package management
[03:32] <sandsmark> dependency handling is still ass slow, and it hasn't really seen much development lately
[03:32] <kalidar> the ldconfig thing just froze my terminal
[03:33] <JustinNFX> Is purge the right way then ?  and aptitude not good to use?
[03:33] <kalidar> its not doing anything its just siting their
[03:33] <land> hi
[03:33] <sandsmark> aptitude is better than apt-get
[03:33] <ScottG> I just plugged an external monitor into my laptop. I want to get a dual monitor setup. What do I need to do to get the monitor recognised?
[03:33] <sandsmark> kalidar: it should be doing something
[03:33] <puff> sandsmark: Well, friendlier :-).
[03:33] <kalidar> nope nothing happend lol
[03:33] <tekteen> kalidar: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory?
[03:33] <kalidar> yes i have tekteen
[03:33] <sandsmark> kalidar: heh
[03:33] <land> where am i?
[03:33] <JustinNFX> he just said is scews up package managment can you explain real quick what the differences are
[03:33] <kalidar> i downloaded all of the files they asked me to
[03:33] <kalidar> the libgtk and the gtk2 athe 1.2
[03:33] <kalidar> all of them from apt-get
[03:33] <kalidar> and it still dosent work
[03:33] <javaJake> !hello | land
[03:34] <javaJake> ;)
[03:34] <kalidar> thats why im asumeing its a bitrate problem
[03:34] <kalidar> so i tryed linux32 runnning it
[03:34] <kalidar> nogo same problem
[03:34] <kalidar> u guys wana see the screnshot again>
[03:34] <t35t0r> ya
[03:34] <usser> kalidar, you've got some weird setup there, are you running in a 32bit chroot or something?
[03:34] <JustinNFX> some people say do apitude and some say apt-get must be a personal preference heh?
[03:34] <kalidar> http://imagebin.org/43243
[03:34] <usser> kalidar, what does dpkg -l | grep libgtk1.2 say?
[03:34] <sandsmark> JustinNFX: aptitude > apt-get
[03:34] <sandsmark> JustinNFX: aptitude is newer
[03:34] <kalidar> ill try
[03:35] <javaJake> JustinNFX: but apt-get is the one officially supported and used.
[03:35] <kalidar> it says no such file or directory
[03:35] <JustinNFX> sandsmark: do they do anything different im writing this down can you just give a quick reply
[03:35] <hanasaki> trying to play a dvd and getting "libdvdnav: Suspected RCE Region Protection!!!
[03:35] <hanasaki> "  how do I play this dvd?
[03:35] <sandsmark> JustinNFX: they do dependency handling a bit differently
[03:35] <JustinNFX> im making my own sort of help file
[03:35] <zombie-robot_> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[03:35] <zombie-robot_> Unable to open logs
[03:36] <sandsmark> JustinNFX: and aptitude keeps an internal cache of all you have installed
[03:36] <kalidar> oh btw im on kubntu
[03:36] <rudolph> anyone here using xorg-server-1.6 with intel drivers ??
[03:36] <kalidar> if that helps
[03:36] <kalidar> kubuntu with kde 4.1
[03:36] <sandsmark> kalidar: that's why I'm helping you :P
[03:36] <kalidar> kk
[03:36] <sandsmark> fellow kde user ! :D
[03:36] <kalidar> XD
[03:36] <tekteen> hanasaki: what program?
[03:36] <kalidar> thanks man apreciated
[03:36] <JustinNFX> oh that is over my mind i don't know what internal cache refers too - nevermind
[03:36] <tekteen> kalidar: I am a kde user too :-)
[03:36] <JustinNFX> i will read up on it later i guess
[03:36] <kalidar> you seen the screenshot rite sandsmark?
[03:36] <sandsmark> ya
[03:37] <kalidar> what do you get outa that?
[03:37] <tekteen> hanasaki: what program? you need to give more info
[03:37] <hanasaki> totem and also vlc...
[03:37] <sandsmark> kalidar: can you run "ldd ~/.setup32517", or was the setup file deleted again ?
[03:37] <raven> hi ... it seems my MAKE won't work any more.... every try the last days: "no target, no make-control-file found"
[03:37] <kalidar> i garente i instaled the gtk and the libgtk files it neds
[03:37] <raven> could anyone help me?
[03:37] <tekteen> hanasaki: is this dvd in your computer drive?
[03:37] <tekteen> !ask | raven
[03:37] <kalidar> no such file or directory
[03:37] <sandsmark> kk
[03:37] <raven> i did ;)
[03:37] <sandsmark> kalidar: ls -l /usr/lib/libgtk* ?
[03:38] <hanasaki> tekteen yes and the dvd is mounted fine
[03:38] <sandsmark> kalidar: does it return anything ?
[03:38] <rudolph> anyone here using xorg-server-1.6 with intel drivers ??
[03:38] <kalidar> alot
[03:38] <kalidar> yeah
[03:38] <kalidar> want me to pastebin it to ya?
[03:38] <sandsmark> nah
[03:38] <kalidar> k
[03:38] <tekteen>  hanasaki, are you running vlc in the gui or from the cli?
[03:38] <sandsmark> did it return the missing library ?
[03:38] <usser> kalidar, i noticed it failed to authenticate, did u try running it with sudo ie sudo ./et.run
[03:39] <kalidar> yes lol sudo dosent work
[03:39] <sandsmark> kalidar: ls -l /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 ?
[03:39] <kalidar> i have to type sh ./et.run
[03:39] <JustinNFX> I want to make a basic help file for youtube to help all newbies like me- maybe if people werent so scared of change (like me) there would be more ubuntu users, afterall no M$ TAX.
[03:39] <hanasaki> tekteen:  running both vlc and totem from the gui... not cmd line
[03:39] <hanasaki> tekteen:  and not runnign them at the same time
[03:39] <kalidar> no such file or directory sandsmark
[03:39] <javaJake> kalidar: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo updatedb && locate libgtk-1.2.so.0 | pastebinit # post the link you get at the end
[03:39] <usser> kalidar, right sudo sh ./et.run
[03:39] <tekteen> hanasaki: try to type this in the terminal sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[03:40] <hanasaki> tekteen:  its already installed
[03:40] <sandsmark> kalidar: ok, you have a too new libgtk
[03:40] <JustinNFX> or maybe i should not try to get more people to move to ubuntu its kinda nice with out so much people
[03:40] <kalidar> do wat javajake sugested?
[03:40] <sandsmark> libgtk breaks ABI way too often
[03:40] <mibb> !grub | mibb
[03:40] <sandsmark> kalidar: no need to
[03:40] <tekteen> hanasaki: then I do not know, are you sure this disk is alright?
[03:40] <kalidar> ok
[03:40] <sandsmark> kalidar: you should either get a newer version of et, or somehow get the old libgtk
[03:40] <ultratek> i just upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 beta and what do i do to get the ati drivers working for my hd 4850 under recovery mode..which tells my soemthing once i try to install over the last setup that it is incompatiable or something?
[03:40] <javaJake> JustinNFX: hahaha
[03:40] <hanasaki> tekteen:  yes its an originl and plays fine in two regular dvd players
[03:41] <sandsmark> kalidar: it seems like the documentation is outdated
[03:41] <ynk> JustinNFX, the more the merrier! i actually just installed mine..
[03:41] <kalidar> so i need a new et or old libget?
[03:41] <scunizi> ultratek: you need to join #ubuntu+1
[03:41] <kalidar> thats why it dosent work!
[03:41] <tekteen> hanasaki: then I do not know what the prob is, sorry?
[03:41] <JustinNFX> ynk: me too
[03:41] <sandsmark> yeah
[03:41] <kalidar> i did everything the documentation asked me lol
[03:41] <tekteen> hanasaki: s/./?/
[03:41] <hanasaki> tekteen:  thanks for trying to help... I am downlaoding and will see if this works  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:41] <ultratek> k
[03:41] <kalidar> ok whats your shugestion usser
[03:41] <usser> ultratek, ati driver doesnt yet support 9.04 as far as i know
[03:41] <ynk> JustinNFX, very nice. perhaps you could help me install my gfx card driver then since you might've gotten some luck with yours. LoL
[03:41] <kalidar> is their even a 62bit file for et?
[03:41] <usser> kalidar, run with sudo, sudo sh ./et.run
[03:42] <kalidar> ill try
[03:42] <mylisto> anyone use kdenlive?
[03:42] <tekteen> !dvd
[03:42] <land> can anyone help me w/ this error: 'Connection failed. Error: Connection refused'?
[03:42] <ultratek> man
[03:42] <kalidar> sandsmen so you kow were to get the old libgtk at?
[03:42] <ultratek> usser would you know how to get the generic version back?
[03:42] <javaJake> land: means it found the server, but the server refused to let you connect
[03:42] <usser> ultratek, its going to be there, just stick with open source radeon for now
[03:42] <JustinNFX> actually on my laptop i did not have to install my drivers, but on my mainframe I could not even get ubuntu to run because I have ATI card that wont work with ubuntu
[03:43] <sandsmark> kalidar: I'm not sure
[03:43] <sandsmark> I don't use ubuntu myself
[03:43] <usser> ultratek, change fglrx to radeon in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:43] <hanasaki> bbl thanks all
[03:43] <rheo> hallo
[03:43] <land> javaJake, they don't want me in?
[03:43] <javaJake> land: generally means there's a firewall or router blocking, or the service isn't available on that computer
[03:43] <sandsmark> kalidar: but try downloading a recent version from here: http://www.fileshack.com/browse.x/1773
[03:43] <kalidar> /home/kalidar/.setup21590: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:43] <kalidar> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[03:43] <ynk> JustinNFX, yeah man! I had the SAME problem trying to install 8.10. Didn't work.
[03:43] <usser> kalidar, this is the old gtk libgtk1.2, sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2
[03:43] <ynk> I decided to install 8.04 for now.
[03:43] <shade34321> i have a random question....how do you change the text of the menu's and dates in ubuntu....the top bar
[03:43] <JustinNFX> Did you try safe graffic mode that helped a little for me?
[03:43] <ultratek> usser, my screen is bad when i load normally so i cant boot up to login though
[03:43] <ynk> I have a radeon HD 2600XT card myself..
[03:44] <kalidar> ok usr i sware i alredy installed that befor tho
[03:44] <JustinNFX> My screen went blank during install until I used safe graffic mode
[03:44] <ynk> trolling the forums like crazy, but I'm having trouble finding a driver.
[03:44] <land> javajake, could it be that the server is having issues?
[03:44] <JustinNFX> I think I have the same card actually
[03:44] <JustinNFX> ynk: and you got it too work
[03:44] <javaJake> land: oh, definitely :)
[03:44] <land> i see
[03:45] <kalidar> what was that link for
[03:45] <ynk> well, i'm using the drivers Ubuntu gave me, which seem to be from ATI.
[03:45] <land> tnx, javajake
[03:45] <kalidar> the fileplanet one
[03:45] <sandsmark> kalidar: a new version of ET
[03:45] <kalidar> is that the newest et?
[03:45] <sandsmark> yeah
[03:45] <kalidar> post link again XD
[03:45] <kalidar> please
[03:45] <ynk> JustinNFX, but there seems to be no 3D acceleration enabled.
[03:45] <sandsmark> http://www.fileshack.com/browse.x/1773
[03:45] <kalidar> so usser can i play you with et?
[03:45] <BlackCoffee> i installed ircii,how do i get it to run?
[03:45] <kalidar> if we boath have same version?
[03:46] <ynk> isn't there any way to quickly test the 3D capabilities of my card?
[03:46] <kalidar> found it thanks sands
[03:46] <usser> ultratek, ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to console on login, and sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf change fglrx to radeon save and restart
[03:46] <kalidar> thansk usser
[03:46] <JustinNFX> If ubuntu became commerical they would probably get rid of the terminal, make you go through stupid install screens, and make you answer ok for eveything.  In my opinion it would have to be too dumbed down since majority of people can barely use microsoft.  Even I have hard time with ms sometimes
[03:46] <mrwes> ynk: from a terminal type glxgears
[03:46] <Titan8990> ynk, glxinfo
[03:47] <ynk> Thanks guys.
[03:47] <nebbes> Is there a quick and easy way to replace firefox with the nightly builds? I currently have two versions installed =/
[03:47] <usser> kalidar, i havent played in some time, but it was hell of fun, and the servers are packed go to one of the BBA server if you ever get it working
[03:48] <dsdeiz> kalidar: you got it to work?
[03:48] <JustinNFX> It seems like ubuntu is trying to get into schools I don't understand how that will work, I remember during school my teachers could barely use a pc
[03:49] <ultratek> usser, ty
[03:49] <usser> nebbes, sudo apt-get install checkinstall && sudo apt-get build-dep firefox
[03:49] <kalidar> actualy i gave up im downloading a new version of et
[03:49] <JustinNFX> ynk: did you install under safe graffic mode and if not did you have problems with your screen going blank.
[03:49] <kalidar> i hadent realized i had the old version
[03:49] <kalidar> so im just gona try again once i get the new
[03:50] <sandsmark> kalidar: maybe ET have their own channel here on freenode ?
[03:50] <dsdeiz> is the new from the fileshack posted above? :S
[03:50] <usser> nebbes, download the source for firefox, unpack, run ./configure, then sudo checkinstall from within the directory where firefox sources are downloaded
[03:50] <andika> hi guys, what's wrong with this: http://cecunguk.blankonlinux.or.id/~andika/kernel-crash-20090326.log
[03:50] <kalidar> naw probs not
[03:50] <mobiGeek> I have an AMD 64 (opteron) machine with only onboard video of 2MB.  What's a good resource for looking up cheap but ubuntu-friendly graphics cards/chipsets for an amd64 system?
[03:50] <kalidar> its all god tho
[03:50] <ynk> JustinNFX, you know what.. I think I could have installed 8.10. I was getting stuck at "Initframs" command line and didn't know what to do afterwards.
[03:50] <JustinNFX> nebbes what does nightly build mean, and how do you get two version of ff installed?
[03:50] <Namaskar> hello
[03:50] <Namaskar> i have a problem
[03:50] <kalidar> im cool with dowloading the version you gave me
[03:50] <nebbes> usser: will that keep it updated though?
[03:50] <ynk> JustinNFX, so I decided to install 8.04
[03:50] <ScottG> I just plugged an external monitor into my laptop. I want to get a dual monitor setup. What do I need to do to get the monitor recognised?
[03:51] <JustinNFX> oh good idea, maybe I will try that.
[03:51] <Namaskar> i keep downloading a file and it gets corrupted
[03:51] <Namaskar> i get a different checksum every time
[03:51] <usser> nebbes, nope, you'll have to go through manual compilation process every time firefox releases updates
[03:51] <Jeruvy> !hardware | mobiGeek
[03:51] <nebbes> Hmm.. thats annoying heh
[03:51] <MrKeuner> hi all, in Gnome is it possible to assign double click on a compressed file to perform extraction instead of opening in roller?
[03:51] <JustinNFX> Other than graphic problems (i got sorted out by using safe graphic mode) I got an error when trying to resize my hard drive.  I will deff try out 8.04 since im starting to like ubuntu more and more.
[03:52] <puff> How do I figure out which fonts are available to gnuplotb
[03:52] <usser> nebbes, whats wrong with the version from repositories, its kept up to date
[03:53] <JustinNFX> I got ubuntu on my lappy pretty much how I want it except for netbean it a pain in the butt to install ;-(
[03:53] <andika> ScottG: check from System | Preference | Screen Resolution, there's Detect Display button there
[03:53] <raven> hi ... it seems my MAKE won't work any more.... every try the last days: "no target, no make-control-file found"
[03:53] <ynk> JustinNFX, i thought you just magically "apt-get" everything..? LoL
[03:54] <usser> raven, ran ./configure ?
[03:54] <raven> of course
[03:54] <ScottG> andika: already tried and it didnt work
[03:54] <ynk> netbeans will be the next thing I install.. after I get Opera.
[03:54] <JustinNFX> Everytime I try to start a new project in netbeans6.0 even with the server downloaded it can not find it
[03:54] <andika> ScottG: what does xrandr from terminal says?
[03:55] <raven> most significant log:
[03:55] <raven> checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
[03:55] <raven> checking for LIBSYNCE... configure: error: Package requirements (libsynce >= 0.9.3) were not met:
[03:55] <raven> No package 'libsynce' found
[03:55] <raven> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[03:55] <raven> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[03:55] <FloodBot2> raven: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <mobiGeek> Jeruvy: thx!
[03:55] <JustinNFX> ynk: good luck i cant get it like it is in windows,  i drewl over 6.5
[03:55] <Jeruvy> mobiGeek: cheers
[03:55] <fortyqueue> where does ubuntu specify the startup daemons?
[03:55] <ScottG> andika: http://pastebin.com/d24514d85
[03:55] <nebbes> usser: is it at 3.6?
[03:55] <usser> raven, sudo apt-get install libsynce0-dev
[03:55] <Guest57594> anyone running ubuntu 8.10 on ec2?  when i do apt-get install java-package it doesn't work
[03:55] <usser> nebbes, 3.0.7
[03:56] <raven> usser "could not find package"
[03:56] <nebbes> usser: Yeah =/ I want the latest nightlies
[03:56] <usser> raven, libsynce-dev
[03:56] <xektrum> hello, I want to know if I can change the codepage to ubuntu to make it compatible with windows
[03:56] <andika> ScottG: your 2nd monitor hasn't detected
[03:56] <JustinNFX> ynk: to get netbeans version 6.5 installed you cant use APT-GET first you have to make sure you have the SDK then dload a .SH files then make a directory.  Then CHMOD in then do a whole bunch of other stuff im not familar with.
[03:56] <xektrum> because I know I can't change windows codepage
[03:56] <raven> no - please wait a minute i'll try something
[03:57] <Guest57594> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[03:57] <MrKeuner> hi all, in Gnome is it possible to assign double click on a compressed file to perform extraction instead of opening in roller?
[03:57] <ynk> JustinNFX, my head hurts already!
[03:57] <ScottG> andika: Yea im gonna try to restart X in a sec
[03:57] <sandsmark> MrKeuner: repeating yourself doesn't help anyone
[03:57] <JustinNFX> exactly!  that what im thinking
[03:57] <mrwes> MrKeuner, why not just right mouse click and 'extract here' ?
[03:57] <MrKeuner> sandsmark, new people join
[03:57] <usser> raven, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:58] <MrKeuner> mrwes, not for me
[03:58] <JustinNFX> im already having a heck of a time getting boxee to work on a 64bit system
[03:58] <MrKeuner> mrwes, it is for somebody else
[03:58] <raven> usser intrepid 8.1
[03:58] <Uplink> any good bulk image resizer  u guys might wanna recommend?
[03:58] <usser> raven, the package is there https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+package/libsynce0-dev
[03:58] <sandsmark> Uplink: “resize”
[03:58] <sandsmark> from graphicsmagick
[03:58] <mrwes> MrKeuner, so tell them to right click and move on :)
[03:58] <usser> raven, maybe enable extra repositories in synaptic
[03:58] <sandsmark> though it's slower than qt's cheatscale
[03:58] <ynk> JustinNFX, planning to buy an HP tablet soon and I'm going to stay away from 62 bit OS'es for a bit longer.
[03:58] <raven> usser yes i did....
[03:59] <MrKeuner> mrwes, haha
[03:59] <raven> next ry
[03:59] <Uplink> sandsmark: what?
[03:59] <usser> raven, sudo apt-get update after that?
[03:59] <raven> yes
[03:59] <raven> might be the missing key is interrupting that...
[03:59] <raven> second...
[03:59] <JustinNFX> Anyone recommend a good RSS feader.  I liked akergator but it goes into full screen mode with no way to exit and no manual files came with it.
[03:59] <MrKeuner> seriously isn't it possible to assign a nautilus action as default
[04:00] <o0Chris0o> how can I change the color of my system font in ubuntu?
[04:00] <sandsmark> JustinNFX: that is a gnome bug
[04:00] <sandsmark> with the window manager
[04:00] <Jeruvy> JustinNFX: I like google reader
[04:00] <sandsmark> kubuntu won't have the same problem
[04:00] <crdlb> sandsmark: it's actually a compiz bug
[04:00] <sandsmark> crdlb: whatever :>
[04:00] <crdlb> easy to fix though
[04:01] <JustinNFX> ynk:  My next buy after I get my kindle is a netbook with ubuntu preinstalled.  They have some nice netbooks for under $300!!
[04:01] <sandsmark> crdlb: it's not a bug in akregator :p
[04:01] <joejc> anyone know if spotchat is down?
[04:01] <crdlb> JustinNFX: do you have ccsm?
[04:01] <jenna^^_> clear
[04:01] <ShinyHat> can i add encryption to a dual boot system (xp) after it's already been set up?
[04:01] <JustinNFX> sandsmark:  oh how I wish I could fix the bug I dloaded three RSS feaders and out of all them akergator was my fav.  It actually worked fine at first.
[04:01] <crdlb> sandsmark: it shouldn't be confusing compiz :o
[04:01] <JustinNFX> crdlb: come again..lol
[04:02] <ynk> JustinNFX, ah, i see. I'm looking for something I can use for class. I don't mind if it has vista on it.  I'll probably upgrade to windows 7 and dual boot Ubuntu.
[04:02] <crdlb> JustinNFX: the CompizConfig Settings Manager
[04:02] <raven> usser it does not find the package ...
[04:02] <usser> raven, thats strange, i just installed on my 8.10 64 bit server
[04:02] <ce_sexy> hey
[04:02] <argentum> AWESOME
[04:03] <usser> raven, libsynce0-dev PUBLISHED: Intrepid  pocket Release  in component universe  and section libs
[04:03] <argentum> I wannannananann talk about ubuntu
[04:03] <Guest57594> i don't understand why i can't find the java-package on one server but can on another
[04:03] <JustinNFX> ynk: Netbooks are perfect for class There screen are what like 10" im going to dual boot it with this program I got that lets you browse the web, and take notes and more w/out even booting up your computer so you just whip it out like a pda or something.
[04:04] <afallenhope> anyone have iptables experience?
[04:04] <ynk> JustinNFX, if only they had that tablet functionality. LoL, I personally don't want anything smaller than 12.1"
[04:04] <mylisto> The file or folder help:/kdenlive/index.html does not exist
[04:04] <jenna^^_> JustinNFX: what app is that? i'm on a eeepc rnow
[04:04] <mylisto> how can I add this?
[04:04] <iceroot> Guest57594: enable mulriverse
[04:04] <qaxx> i did
[04:05] <qaxx> still doesn't work
[04:05] <iceroot> qaxx: sudo apt-get update
[04:05] <raven> usser then anything is broken here i cannot install anything on my own because make does not work
[04:05] <bonez46> where does one change the system name..
[04:05] <bonez46> for 8.10?
[04:05] <andika> bonez46: /etc/hostname ?
[04:05] <JustinNFX> jenna^^_:  I don't know it came on my asus cd with my motherboard.  Its awesome you can play games and everything.  I can burn a ISO image if you want to try it out?
[04:05] <lstarnes> !hostname | bonez46
[04:06] <qaxx> iceroot: thanks, i'm a tit.. forgot to update after changing multiverse
[04:06] <usser> raven, for make to work it has to know how to make, thats why you run ./configure, configure checks if all the dependencies needed to build the package are present and if any is missing it fails, so make fails as well
[04:06] <iceroot> qaxx: np
[04:06] <usser> raven, what are you trying to build anyway?
[04:06] <jenna^^_> JustinNFX: naw, lets keep the channel legit . .
[04:06] <JustinNFX> ah ok
[04:07] <JustinNFX> just thought your interested
[04:07] <chop> where does GDM store its available session-configurations?
[04:07] <bonez46> lstarnes: hmmm on my 8.10 desktop.. System > Admin > Networking has no " General tab..
[04:07] <raven> vdccm usser to use synce - at this point i had to go xthousands of steps back already and it won't stop ;)
[04:07] <raven> i do not know what to do any more
[04:07] <CodyT07> hello, i am having trouble with a midi program. i am using timidity and it will not run with firefox open
[04:08] <crdlb> chop: /usr/share/xsessions/
[04:08] <JustinNFX> crdlb: so it has something to do with Compfiz that sorta makes since I think afer I installed it that is when the "full screen" delma started to happen.
[04:08] <chop> thanks
[04:08] <raven> usser and another step because of another error...: onfigure: Building with dccm file support
[04:08] <raven> checking for DBUS... no
[04:08] <raven> configure: error: odccm support requested but D-Bus could not be found
[04:09] <crdlb> JustinNFX: yes, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:09] <JustinNFX> ynk:  If you mind what tablet are you thinking of buying and how much $$
[04:09] <JustinNFX> I already did crdlb
[04:09] <usser> raven, you'll get lots of it, what you need to do is figure out which packages provide needed dependencies for dbus you need dbus-1-dev
[04:09] <ynk> how do i acquire the "Python OpenGL" support and "Python GTKGLExt" support?
[04:09] <crdlb> JustinNFX: go to system > prefs > compizconfig settings manager, then go to Workarounds and disable Legacy fullscreen support
[04:10] <JustinNFX> Speaking off compfiz how come I can never get the cool CUBE things working it just flips back and forth destops
[04:10] <ynk> JustinNFX, I'm getting the HP tx2000z series. basic price range is 950 bux.
[04:10] <usser> ynk, sudo apt-get install python-gtkglext1
[04:10] <raven> usser now its "hal support" - seems to become a neverending story :|
[04:10] <ynk> usser, thanks buddy.
[04:10] <shade34321> does ubuntu support tablet functionality?
[04:11] <usser> raven, as i said building is a painful process, building something complex is infinitely more painful cause complex software depends on a lot of things
[04:11] <JustinNFX> ynk: yikes only thing I don't like about tablets and handhelds are there price.  But I guess if you have it flawn it :-)
[04:11] <ynk> shade34321, good question.. might be a pain getting drivers for a tablet's touchscreen feature.
[04:11] <usser> raven, sudo apt-get install libhal-dev
[04:11] <crdlb> JustinNFX: also in ccsm, General Options > Desktop Size > Horizontal virtual size = 4
[04:11] <raven> usser ok - i'll keep trying but thanks a lot for the moment already ;)
[04:11] <usser> raven, no problem
[04:12] <ynk> JustinNFX, i thought 950 for a tablet was pretty darn reasonable! LoL, they usually go for much much more.
[04:12] <BlackCoffee> if i install Kubuntu fromn synaptic,how much space will it use?
[04:12] <shade34321> but it is possible though right?
[04:12] <JustinNFX> crdlb:  You think that will fix Korganizers full screen error.  I got that before I installed compfiz.. and is this just a KDE problem?
[04:12] <ShinyHat> can i add encryption to a dual boot system (xp) after it's already been set up?
[04:12] <ashwin> has anyone installed cruise control on intrepid
[04:12] <crdlb> JustinNFX: compiz is enabled by default unless you turn it off
[04:13] <crdlb> JustinNFX: and the standard gnome window manager (metacity) has a similar feature, but it seems a bit more reliable
[04:13] <andika> ShinyHat: what kind of encryption?
[04:14] <JustinNFX> well, i build my own pc and stuff and the most i will put down is 650$  I bought a laptop 2.9ghz intel dual core, 64bit, 4gig memory  and a 250gb hd for only $600
[04:14] <ShinyHat> andika: not sure, new to encrypting but think it's a good idea on a laptop. any suggestions? something that could keep data secure even if someone removed the hdd?
[04:14] <qaxx> wtf - why would my server die wheil installing java?
[04:15] <andika> ShinyHat: I use truecrypt to do 'portable' encryption on Ubuntu & XP
[04:15] <JustinNFX> and Im cheap so netbooks appeal to me also there real neat and better than lugging around a 15in lappy around.
[04:15] <qaxx> got to Setting up sun-java6-bin (6-10-0ubuntu2) ... then all my ssh died and i can't reconnect
[04:15] <ShinyHat> andika: can i add that to a working system, or would i have to start over?
[04:16] <andika> ShinyHat: just install, no need to start over
[04:16] <kravlin> i'm not sure how long this is going to lag through the network i'm on but i'm having issues with hotkeys on my computer. I have hotkeys for volume but the hotkeys are linked to a different device than the one i'm using. can someone help?
[04:16] <ShinyHat> andika: and it would secure the hdd even if mounted in a different machine?
[04:17] <JustinNFX> ynk: do you have the link to the tablet.  Nokia has this real nice (real expensive) handheld that runs a stipped down linux.  The only thing that keeping me back from buying it is i heard the linux lacks many basic programs like a word editor.
[04:17] <andika> ShinyHat: yup, as long as you don't save the password on disk
[04:18] <ShinyHat> andika: lol, or write it on a post-it stuck to the keyboard?
[04:18] <ynk> JustinNFX, i'll get you a link. give me a second.. i'm also playing chess in the background. haha
[04:18] <ShinyHat> andika: i would imagine i have to keep /boot unencrypted?
[04:19] <andika> ShinyHat: well, my truecrypt usage is not for the whole system, but only a special partition
[04:19] <JustinNFX> Since the Kindle II came out and there not selling the OG, I found a used (like new) on there site for $200 I just bought.  Im sorta kicking myself  for the lack of PDF support.
[04:19] <andika> ShinyHat: need different method for whole system encryption
[04:19] <JustinNFX> I'm wondering if I should of got the sony read for only $100 more.
[04:20] <JustinNFX> what do you guys think "Sony Reader" or "Kindle One"?
[04:20] <ShinyHat> andika: is truecrypt capable of encrypting an xp partition?
[04:20] <un2him> i cannot share folders on ntfs partition using jaunty beta...help!
[04:21] <lstarnes> un2him: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:21] <un2him> lstarnes: thanks
[04:21] <andika> ShinyHat: no, but you can access a truecrypt-encrypted partition from XP
[04:21] <BlackCoffee> i have kdebase installed,how come i can't select KDE as WM at the logon screen?
[04:21] <dhruvasagar> I am happy!!!
[04:21] <dhruvasagar> I finally was able to get my ubuntu back up!!
[04:22] <JustinNFX> ynk: did you ever heaard of dropbox?? it is this program that you add both your linux, and windows too and share files over a internet foler by just dragging and dropping.
[04:22] <ShinyHat> andika: i see, alright. i will keep true crypt in mind, thanks for the tip :)
[04:22] <dhruvasagar> although I had to reinstall it, but no data loss....awesome
[04:22] <EvilAIM> Hey all, I figured out how to get my tv+ubuntu working properly.
[04:22] <JustinNFX> IMO the best program for ubuntu
[04:22] <dhruvasagar> EvilAIM: hey can you share the same? maybe write a blog about it, please?
[04:22] <EvilAIM> Ya, I'll get on it.
[04:22] <Gnea> !info dropbox
[04:22] <ynk> JustinNFX, wow! that sounds awesome!
[04:23] <max> !atheros
[04:23] <EvilAIM> Anyone have any idea what the best desktop speakers are?
[04:23] <FSWolf> hey all a friend of mine install ubuntu seems she now has to reinstall windows for what ever resion is there a program on ubuntu that can let her view her windows partions and let ubuntu mount it ???
[04:23] <ynk> JustinNFX, so it resides online?
[04:23] <kravlin> i'm having issues with hotkeys on my computer. I have hotkeys for volume but the hotkeys are linked to a different device than the one i'm using. can someone help?
[04:23] <EvilAIM> I'm looking by price and really, none are what I'm lookin' for.
[04:23] <BlackCoffee> !info kde4
[04:23] <Dei> Hey, I had a question regarding DNS...
[04:23] <BlackCoffee> !info kde
[04:23] <Gnea> !ask
[04:23] <EvilAIM> I'm looking for HD quality.
[04:23] <FSWolf> any ideas would be apreshated
[04:23] <JustinNFX> you get   like 2gb to add to your dropbox folder and when you drop files into or download files it somehow miracuously does it instantly you dont wait for the upload
[04:23] <mylisto> anyone ever use kdenlive?  Trying to find out how to add keyframes...
[04:24] <andika> kravlin: your computer type might be incorrectly detected by hotkey script
[04:24] <ynk> JustinNFX, is it free?
[04:24] <Gnea> FSWolf: yeah, Ubuntu can do that on its own, it just needs to 'see' the partitions, which it usually can by default
[04:24] <JustinNFX> Yes, its online because its for windows and linux.  Its free for the 2gb version for now, but more space it cost to upgrade.
[04:24] <FSWolf> where would it show up
[04:24] <Dei> I was trying to run a DNS Server to host information for domains I've purchased. Someone told me that it is not allowed to make updates to the Root DNS Records - or something along these lines - and that I shouldn't be doing it this way.
[04:24] <FSWolf> aparently its in media
[04:24] <FSWolf> not in
[04:24] <FSWolf> sorry
[04:25] <ynk> JustinNFX, and what exactly is the limit on file size? i'm sure it couldn't be more than 10 megs..
[04:25] <JustinNFX> you can also drop like torrent file in there while your a way from how and your pc at home will automatically download it
[04:25] <Gnea> usually if I click on 'Places', it'll be in the list as whatever size of the partition is
[04:25] <ron2010> anybody know how to resolve this error in Gnome-art "ruby: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i486-linux/gtk2.so: undefined symbol: gtk_file_system_error_quark'?
[04:25] <JustinNFX> ynk: nope a whole 2gb
[04:25] <Gnea> JustinNFX: url?
[04:25] <andika> kravlin: do you use hotkey-setup package?
[04:25] <andika> kravlin: check /etc/init.d/hotkey-setup script
[04:25] <JustinNFX> www.getdropbox.com  its totted as the gdrive killer :-)
[04:26] <Yomic> How do I do the equivalent of sudo in the gui?
[04:26] <FSWolf> Gnea: was that directed tword me ?
[04:26] <FSWolf> Gnea: in places
[04:26] <Gnea> FSWolf: yes.
[04:26] <LlamaZorz> Yomic:  call that gui with sudo
[04:26] <FSWolf> Gnea: FileSystem>PlaceS?
[04:26] <Dei> is anyone familiar with BIND that I could speak with?
[04:27] <lstarnes> Yomic: gksudo (gnome) or kdesudo (kde)
[04:27] <andika> Dei: yes
[04:27] <Gnea> FSWolf: have you not used ubuntu before?
[04:27] <JustinNFX> I have three computer installed one that is remote, and two that are one that same computer so I can share files between linux and windows easy
[04:27] <FSWolf> i put i on my sisters computer :P
[04:27] <FSWolf> i use debian
[04:27] <FSWolf> this a friend
[04:27] <Gnea> JustinNFX: looks interesting. too bad the dropboxd is closed-source :p
[04:27] <FSWolf> she needs help i dont care for that OS
[04:28] <FSWolf> debian is better in every way :P
[04:28] <FloodBot2> FSWolf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <JustinNFX> it not hard to install either if I could do it anybody could
[04:28] <FSWolf> quit FloodBot2  ! i flood u not XD
[04:28] <LlamaZorz> Justin take a look at Samba
[04:28]  * meshuggah slaps FloodBot2 
[04:28] <BlackCoffee> hee,instaling xfce,kde and blackbox
[04:28] <Gnea> FSWolf: heh, I used to use Debian for years.  Still use it on a few systems. :)
[04:28] <JustinNFX> I thought they give you the source file for the linux version?
[04:29] <Gnea> FSWolf: I happen to think that Ubuntu has made strides where Debian can/will not make them. But, that is beside the point, and off-topic.
[04:29] <FSWolf> Gnea: that it eh i dont use it graphicly either so im not sure how to guide her unless i just go to my sisters computer and work there :? or shh into her system and try to find it my self
[04:29] <JustinNFX> I will stick to dropbox i don't think any thing can beat trust me all I used my computer for is downloading and torrents
[04:29] <ynk> is Python and C/C++ always coupled with every Linux distro?
[04:29] <FSWolf> id have to agree
[04:29] <kravlin> andika: yes. I am using hotkey-setup. i'm in the config file right now.
[04:29] <core1> cryit
[04:29] <LlamaZorz> ynk not every one
[04:29] <FSWolf> yes you are right Gnea  buts not as "manly"
[04:29] <Gnea> FSWolf: well, if you want to help support her on it, perhaps install it in vmware or virtualbox
[04:30] <Gnea> FSWolf: don't even go there ;)
[04:30] <FSWolf> :) ok nothing in places Sir
[04:30] <FSWolf> any other ideas ?
[04:30] <tomorama> Sound won't work. I got it working by checking off the IEC958 switch in vol. control but then I did a system update and sound didn't work after that. The card is not muted, connection is good, volume up, i've grabbed drivers from a fresh kernel, i've reinstalled alsa, but cannot get sound. Any advice?
[04:30] <tomorama> One thing that seems strange: in sound preferences everything is set to alsa, however alsamixer shows the card and chip as "pulseaudio". My card is a realtek.
[04:30] <LlamaZorz> ynk, the most basic linux distro will only have the basic c libraries.
[04:30] <Gnea> FSWolf: did she actually install windows yet?
[04:30] <JustinNFX> I use a program called Idrive for auto backup if you refer a friend you get 10gb for free, and its super fast it transfers at like 400kb a second.  too bad its only for windows
[04:31] <BlackCoffee> has anyone ever installed windows after linux?ubuntu to be more specific?
[04:31] <rww> BlackCoffee: yes. XP or Vista?
[04:31] <ynk> LlamaZorz, why do the majority of them also include python? is it because a lot of apps on the *nix are developed in Python?
[04:31] <tweaksource> Windows after Linux = BAD
[04:31] <Gnea> !dualboot
[04:31] <JustinNFX> BlackCoffee: no but im interested in what someone has to say
[04:31] <FSWolf> yes
[04:31] <FSWolf> windows is there
[04:32] <FSWolf> she was some fucking pictures of kids or some shit
[04:32] <JustinNFX> I was told all you have to do if fix gnome
[04:32] <BlackCoffee> i wanna install xp
[04:32] <FSWolf> she wasnt smart enought to back it up on a seperate drive
[04:32] <tritium> FSWolf: watch the language
[04:32] <Gnea> !language | FSWolf (this isn't #debian, mind that.)
[04:32] <BlackCoffee> but only for audio production purposes
[04:32] <FSWolf> sorry admin/posible bot
[04:32] <rww> BlackCoffee: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[04:32] <JustinNFX> thanks rww!
[04:32] <BlackCoffee> cool,thanks
[04:32] <tritium> !grub | BlackCoffee
[04:33] <tritium> BlackCoffee: you'll lose grub after installing Windows.  See above to fix it.
[04:33] <rww> there are also articles on there for Vista, and for the other way around. <3 that site
[04:33] <BlackCoffee> nice
[04:33] <kim4249> Hi everyone
[04:33] <BlackCoffee> you  people know too much
[04:33] <Gnea> FSWolf: I'm really not sure at this point. she might be able to get at it through Places->Computer... but if she has internet access, she might as well open xchat and get on here and ask herself
[04:33] <kravlin> andika: however, most of these are presets for prebuilt computers, this isn't a prebuilt. i'm using an eclipse keyboard and my sound always starts on full.
[04:33] <FSWolf> Gnea: kim4249 is the one who having this issue
[04:33] <Gnea> wow
[04:33] <FloridaN8ve> So, as someone who has only recently stepped into the Linux world, specifically Ubuntu... I am confused about Ubuntu's relationship with Debian. I read the web page on Ubuntu.com related to the topic, but my ignorance of Debian is still too overwhelming.
[04:33] <JustinNFX> anyone know a workaround for using a ATI card that makes the screen go blank during install?
[04:33] <athe> I have a rather strange problem - keyboard stops accepting input during 8.04.2 install. Tried several keyboards, ps2 and usb, same deal - using standard and alternate installation images. Any suggestions?
[04:33] <FSWolf> could u join us in #PRivateTec
[04:34] <tritium> !debian | FloridaN8ve
[04:34] <Gnea> nope
[04:34] <Gnea> we'll do it here.
[04:34] <FSWolf> #Privatetec
[04:34] <Gnea> FSWolf: nothing doing.
[04:34] <Flannel> FloridaN8ve: That question would be better off asked in #ubuntu-offtopic, we'd be glad to spend the time answering your questions there.
[04:34] <kim4249> could someone please help me
[04:34] <qaxx> whoda thunk installing java could wreck 8.10 ec2 beta, bah... note to self, don't use betas
[04:34] <Gnea> kim4249: you're trying to read your NTFS drive from Ubuntu?
[04:34] <andika> kravlin: so create your own hotkey configuration
[04:34] <JustinNFX> Is ubuntu always buggy with ATI would buying a NVIDA card be worth the $$$?
[04:34] <tomorama> Sound won't work. I got it working by checking off the IEC958 switch in vol. control but then I did a system update and sound didn't work after that. The card is not muted, connection is good, volume up, i've grabbed drivers from a fresh kernel, i've reinstalled alsa, but cannot get sound. Any advice?
[04:34] <ynk> JustinNFX, there ya go. http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&a1=Category&v1=Ultra-Portable&series_name=tx2z_series
[04:34] <andika> kravlin: using xev I think
[04:35] <rww> JustinNFX: my ATI card works fine.
[04:35] <FSWolf> we are in the new room :)) #Privatetec
[04:35] <[biabia]> Help?  Need command on ubuntu like chkconfig and/or ntsysv
[04:35] <FSWolf> so we can all read easyt LOL
[04:35] <Icebuntu> JustinNFX:  ya but ATI has open up there new drivers
[04:35] <kravlin> !xev
[04:35] <Icebuntu> JustinNFX:  like say 4730 on wards
[04:35] <Gnea> FSWolf: it's better to do it here, in case it helps someone else
[04:35] <JustinNFX> rww:  I cant even install with my ATI the screen goes blank!
[04:35] <ynk> !help
[04:35] <FSWolf> ok
[04:35] <Gnea> FSWolf: or in case someone else has another option to help
[04:35] <Icebuntu> any thing beyond 4300 series Radeon JustinNFX
[04:36] <FSWolf> ok
[04:36] <FSWolf> :)
[04:36] <JustinNFX> then when i use safe graffic mode it wont let me resize my hard drive.. its crazy hard .. and it never worked
[04:36] <kravlin> andika: what's xev? sorry, i'm not insanely familiar with ubuntu yet. I'm actually worried it might be a problem with the sound drivers because as i said. it's always on full when i start up.
[04:36] <JustinNFX> yeah i think my is like 2400, of 2200 radeon.
[04:36] <FSWolf> shes using irssi btw :)
[04:36] <Icebuntu> JustinNFX:  which graphic card your using
[04:36] <FSWolf> might as well start off in linux correctly
[04:36] <rww> JustinNFX: I have a Radeon HD 3450. Open source drivers work fine in 2D, fglrx works fine in 3D. Very new cards and very old cards have problems, so I guess I got the sweet spot.
[04:36] <FSWolf> with the terminal
[04:36] <JustinNFX> Radeon
[04:36] <Icebuntu> okey
[04:36] <FSWolf> :)
[04:36] <Gnea> hopefully she knows how to type/speak for herself :)
[04:37] <fhdknpc> hello
[04:37] <kim4249> hello
[04:37] <andika> kravlin: xev is a tool to check which keycode(s) is/are generated for any key pressed
[04:37] <FSWolf> yes she does :)
[04:37] <kim4249> I am just so confused
[04:37] <Gnea> kim4249: did you see my message above?
[04:37] <andika> then you use numbers returned by xev to make your hotkey config
[04:37] <fhdknpc> i am new here
[04:37] <kim4249> not sure, the room is moving so fast
[04:37] <Gnea> kim4249: that's okay, we can take it step-by-step until you understand
[04:37] <JustinNFX> I don't underestand because the ATI card is actually better with graffics then my brand new intel card on my lappy which works fine with ubuntu
[04:38]  * FSWolf smiles thank sso much Gnea 
[04:38] <texincali> im kinda new to ubuntu could somone help me in changing my soundcard from the onboard to my audigy 4?
[04:38] <kravlin> andika: i'm not having problems because the hotkeys work. They just change the volume on the wrong device.
[04:38] <kim4249> ok gnea, I installed ubuntu and did dual boot but windows XP wont work now
[04:38] <JPSman> How can I find out more information about the gnome games?  like what graphics did they use?  glib or cario or what?
[04:38] <Gnea> kim4249: since you're using irrsi, you should be able to see the highlight when I'm typing like this
[04:38] <kim4249> yes
[04:38] <BlackCoffee> !virtualbox
[04:38] <JPSman> I mean glade
[04:39] <Gnea> kim4249: okay, by 'not work', does that mean that it simply won't boot up or there is no option to boot into windows or.. something else?
[04:39] <JustinNFX> So, if I were to buy another video card (under $100) if i were to play it safe go with a semi-new Nvida.
[04:39] <TwoToneSpirit> kim4249:  Second on the virtualbox motion.  It's the only windows I use / need.  Wine does most, VB does the rest.
[04:39] <JustinNFX> Nvida seems to have a love relationship with ubuntu.
[04:39] <kim4249> the windows XP option is there at startup but when I click on it then it just has black screen that says starting and goes no further
[04:39] <BlackCoffee> yeah but i still can't get my oldie nvidia graphic card to work properly
[04:39] <andika> kravlin: what do you mean by "wrong device"?
[04:40] <JustinNFX> Anybody recommend a economic but efficient card for use with ubuntu and the upcomming distros?
[04:40] <tweaksource> I've been using Linux, mainly Ubuntu, for about 3 years. Haven't used Windows @ home in a while. I have several thousand dollars in Audio Production software which is winblows only. I wanted to use it again so I installed fresh WinXp. Everything is fine. I installed Xubuntu 8.04 and the Network Autoconfig failed. I tried to manually configure and it won't initialize the interface. So I tried a Mandriva 2009.0 disc - no network. DSL
[04:40] <texincali> im kinda new to ubuntu could somone help me in changing my soundcard from the onboard to my audigy 4?
[04:40] <Gnea> kim4249: are you able to press F8 in time to get to the advanced bootup menu for windows?
[04:40] <tritium> JustinNFX: upcoming releases, you mean?
[04:40] <athe> any ideas for my issue? or did the question get buried?
[04:40] <tritium> JustinNFX: ubuntu is the distro
[04:40] <kim4249> yes I have enough time I can do that but didnt know to
[04:40] <chop> is it possible to add more startup programs to a gdm-session .desktop file?
[04:40] <JustinNFX> tritum: sorry, yeah released like the next one
[04:40] <JustinNFX> releases*
[04:40] <meshuggah_> tweaksource, btw, the you know a linux program that is like acid music?
[04:41] <tweaksource> Try LMMS
[04:41] <Gnea> kim4249: give it a shot - try 'last known good configuration' and if that doesn't work, 'safe mode' .. perhaps the problem will fix itself or will become apparent
[04:41] <JustinNFX> this keyboard is horrible if i type too fast menus pop up that prevent me from typing
[04:41] <texincali> meshugga audacity is like acid pro...
[04:41] <meshuggah_> tweaksource, ok thank
[04:41] <TwoToneSpirit> tweaksource: will your software not run on virtualbox?
[04:41] <meshuggah_> texincali, maybe i should try it :)
[04:41] <kim4249> ok gnea, I will try it, thanks
[04:41] <TwoToneSpirit> tweaksource: Reason runs awesome on virtualbox
[04:41] <Gnea> kim4249: and if it doesn't, let us know :)
[04:41] <jenna^^_> window up
[04:42] <tweaksource> Also try thr ubuntu-studio-audio pgk, meshuggah
[04:42] <kravlin> andika: when i look at my volume control i have 7 different devices listed for some reason. the one i want to use isn't the one that changes when i push the hotkey however.
[04:42]  * g4lt-lappy hands jenna^^_ a / ;P
[04:42] <JustinNFX> So, I know there are some geekz out there what it is a semi decent GPU Card to buy?
[04:42] <grenn> Has anybody had a problem with there CPU fan running on max since you've install ubuntu?
[04:42] <texincali> could somone walk me through in setting up my sound so that i use my audigy card and not my onboard sound card?
[04:42] <jenna^^_> thanks, i am always losing mine ^^
[04:42] <TwoToneSpirit> JustinNFX:  Yeah you are probably safe with a new nvidia card.  Check out newegg comments among nvidia cards and get one that speaks to you.
[04:42] <tritium> JustinNFX: I use nVidia, particularly for my myth boxes, but it depends on your needs, and what you'll use your machine for.
[04:42] <FSWolf> :)) well i hope that works for her
[04:42] <FSWolf> brb a sec i need food
[04:42] <kravlin> andika: the one that controls my sound levels i hear is not the one that adjusts with the hotkeys.
[04:42] <JustinNFX> green: no my cpu fan haas actually slowed down believe it or not nice and quiet
[04:43] <TwoToneSpirit> grenn:  I've seen that problem around.  Check the forums.
[04:43] <P3ngv1n-Fvck3r> watch your routers all.. just read about a linux bot-net on Digg
[04:43] <JustinNFX> I love newegg
[04:43] <owen1> on many sites i see text as gibrish and it clears when i hover with the mouse. any idea what wrong?
[04:43] <kravlin> texincali: did you turn off the onboard sound in your BIOS?
[04:43] <HFactor> hai all, the ubuntu GNOME screen is showing "Out of Frequency". GUI is not working. How to reset that. It had worked well before
[04:43] <meshuggah_> how can i setup midi on my computer?
[04:43] <quizme> is there a way to test internet explorer on linux?
[04:43] <meshuggah_> i want to be able to use the virtual midi piano?
[04:43] <TwoToneSpirit> P3ngv1n-Fvck3r: link please - that's huge if true
[04:43] <kravlin> JustinNFX: Agreed.
[04:44] <tweaksource> TwoTone, Xubuntu guest in WinXP host connects fine, if that's your question.
[04:44] <andika> kravlin: sorry then, I don't remember how to connect or modify connection between volume_up/down to any specific device control
[04:44] <JustinNFX> If I was making a HTCP I would have to get a graphic card that has a in and a out right?  one for the cable to go to the HTCP, and another cable to go to the TV????
[04:44] <tweaksource> Oh, my bad.
[04:44] <TwoToneSpirit> HFactor:  You are probably out of range for resolution.  Google "ubuntu resolution terminal" and you'll find a way to change it from the terminal.
[04:44] <texincali> no becouse i use both for sound mixing in windows....one for sampling the sounds and one for what is actualy heard in windows....
[04:44] <kravlin> quizme: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[04:44] <P3ngv1n-Fvck3r> TwoToneSpirit, http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/psyb0t_attacks_linux_routers_update
[04:44] <JustinNFX> replace graphic card with tv tuner
[04:44] <texincali> i want to set up my audigy to be the default
[04:44] <tweaksource> The issue with VirtualBox and recording audio in the guest is the USB or Firewire interface scene.
[04:44] <tritium> JustinNFX: no, you'd need a tuner card.  Integrated graphics are sufficient for HTPCs.
[04:45] <quizme> kravlin: thanks
[04:45] <JustinNFX> yeah that what i meant im sorry
[04:45] <Flannel> P3ngv1n-Fvck3r: Please keep offtopic chatter to a minimum.  Thanks.  Also, check your queries.
[04:45] <TwoToneSpirit> tweaksouce:  No, haha, that room is moving so fast.  I was asking what software you use for audio production and if it will work with VIrutalbox.  Reason, which I was frequently, rocks hard on Virtualbox.  No detectable performance hit whatsoever.
[04:45] <kravlin> andika: thanks anyways, as i said. i'm worried it's not recognizing the card early enough anyways. I have an hd onboard that doesn't work with my 2.1 system. I got a cheap card and this happened.
[04:45] <JustinNFX> how does tv tuner work one plug goes the the HTCP and one plug hooks to a wire that goes to your tv for tvout???
[04:46] <P3ngv1n-Fvck3r> Flannel, sure, sorry. forgot
[04:46] <TwoToneSpirit> Flannel:  I asked him to post that link - it's very important
[04:46] <kravlin> JustinNFX: First, put the person you're talking to in the message. most IRC clients highlight the message for that user then. Second, I've got no idea then. Sorry.
[04:46] <P3ngv1n-Fvck3r> TwoToneSpirit, flannel is right tho
[04:46] <P3ngv1n-Fvck3r> TwoToneSpirit, should have pm'd ya
[04:46] <BlackCoffee> is it possible to have different user sessions just using the workspaces?
[04:46] <tritium> JustinNFX: the TV tuner has a coax input.  For a modern HTPC, you'd want HDMI or DVI out to our high-def television.
[04:47] <kravlin> My hotkeys point towards a different device than the one that controls my sound can someone help? (ask for more info)
[04:47] <texincali> kravlin: i use both sound cards i want to set up my audigy to be the default sound card...
[04:47] <tweaksource> It is quite a chore to keep up in here.
[04:47] <JustinNFX> like your cable goes into the HTCP so you can record, pause, and play, then there is a female which allow the cable to go from the tuner directly to the tv
[04:47] <tritium> JustinNFX: no
[04:47] <JustinNFX> i know that im just trying to figure out in my mind how they record and tv output
[04:48] <kravlin> texincali: yeah, unfortunately don't know a whole lot more. keep asking and hopefully someone will be able to help you.
[04:48] <tritium> JustinNFX: it's offtopic for this channel
[04:48] <texincali> could somone help me set up my audigy 4 to be my default soundcard instead of my onboard so i can use it to listen to music?
[04:48] <JustinNFX> tritium: im sorry i thought it had to do with ubuntu since ubuntu makes a mythtv
[04:49] <JustinNFX> i will never mention it again
[04:49] <tritium> JustinNFX: #ubuntu-mythtv, if you care to ask in there
[04:49] <Titan8990> texincali, sometimes you can disable onboard sound in the BIOS
[04:49] <texincali> titan8990: i dont want to disable the onboard i use both in windows....
[04:49] <kravlin> JustinNFX: Ubuntu doesn't make mythTV. It's another group that makes Myth for all platforms.
[04:50] <tritium> kravlin: he's referring to mythbuntu
[04:50] <Titan8990> texincali, the will probably need to blacklist the alsa modules for the onboard sound
[04:50] <kravlin> tritium: ah. makes sense.
[04:50] <texincali> titan8890: how do i do that
[04:50] <JustinNFX> kravlin if you would like to explain how to put person you're talking to in the message i will do it (it been 8 years since I used IRC)
[04:50] <Titan8990> !blacklist | texincali
[04:51] <texincali>  / confused
[04:51] <JustinNFX> kravlin: I mean that they make a version of ubuntu i am sorry I did not make it more clear
[04:51] <texincali> im a noob
[04:51] <texincali> :-P
[04:51] <Titan8990> texincali, what is your onboard sound card?
[04:51] <tritium> JustinNFX: mythbuntu is what you're referring to.  /join #ubuntu-mythtv
[04:51] <texincali> via 8237
[04:52] <JustinNFX> forget it i was just curious, not really pressing on me that bad
[04:52] <kravlin> JustinNFX: got both. I'm not trying to be hostle. Sorry if i came off that way.
[04:52] <b3rz3rk3r> TwoToneSpirit, so, what did you think about the botnet?
[04:52] <ynk> JustinNFX, i think i found an easy way to install netbeans, buddy. LoL
[04:52] <Titan8990> texincali, no idea what module it is
[04:52] <texincali> when i plug my speakers into the onboard my sound works fine...but i want to use the audigy 4 becouse it has more "options"
[04:52] <JustinNFX> ynk: serious the 6.5 version I know you can get nbean 6.0 in add/remove
[04:53] <texincali> i have no idea
[04:53] <Titan8990> texincali, sudo lsmod | grep snd
[04:53] <kravlin> My hotkeys point towards a different device than the one that controls my output can someone help?
[04:53] <ynk> JustinNFX, aw man. here i am, thinking i just did something amazing. lmao
[04:53] <Titan8990> texincali, wait, the card doesn't work at all?
[04:53] <JustinNFX> kravlin: how do you directly speak to the user your chatting to its been atleast 7 years since i used mIRC
[04:53] <texincali> im not getting any sound from my audigy....
[04:54] <texincali> but i am from my onboard
[04:54] <Titan8990> !soundblaster | texincali
[04:54] <texincali> it works fine in windows so the card works
[04:54] <JustinNFX> ynk: tell me if you can get a server to work with reg netbeans, and also tell me if you can open a javascript file by hiting new files, then going to other.
[04:54] <Titan8990> texincali, I know nothing about configuring them, but they do need to be configured
[04:54] <texincali> and it see's the soundcard and says its there
[04:54] <HFactor> i changed my screen resolution in GNOME, now monitor says "Out of Freq". How to get back. I cant get inside GNOME now
[04:54] <Titan8990> texincali, you can check that link
[04:54] <texincali> ok
[04:54] <JustinNFX> ynk: that is why im trying to upgrade it seems that even after i install the servers and stuff it dont work
[04:54] <kravlin> JustinNFX: if you just put their name in like you have it'll highlight what you said to them in most clients. that way it's easier to have a conversation going on.
[04:55] <g4lt-lappy> HFactor, try ctl-alt-bksp
[04:55] <ynk> JustinNFX, sure. it's still installing.
[04:55] <g4lt-lappy> or better ctl-alt-f1 for a console
[04:56] <JustinNFX> kravlin: so, i was doing it right you the person name then this symbol " : "
[04:56] <amitb> I'm trying to connect to my ubuntu desktop (I've already enabled Remote Desktop), but when I connect from VNC I get a dialog box saying 'No matching security types'. What is wrong here?
[04:56] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, sounds like you need to diable encryption
[04:57] <kravlin> or you can do it like this. Welcome back JustinNFX. As long as their name is in there it'll highlight it.
[04:57] <andika-afk> kravlin: http://forums.opensuse.org/hardware/398547-volume-hotkey-configuration.html#post1889771
[04:57] <g4lt-lappy> before I waste my money, anyone have a positive result for a buffalo 5-in-1 card reader?
[04:57] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: disable encryption where?
[04:57]  * JPSman licks all of you  - I like you
[04:57] <raven> usser?
[04:57] <QPrime> amitb: on your vnc client (the one you are connecting from)
[04:57] <JustinNFX> kravlin: Through synaptic I installed Zend for PHP and a Ruby Framework plus ruby IDE, and the files are no where to be seen, any idea
[04:58] <g4lt-lappy> JustinNFX, TBH, you can just  type in the first couple letters then tabcomplete ;P
[04:58] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, on the linux side - remote desktop. Just disable using encryption
[04:58] <JustinNFX> g4lt-lappy explain!
[04:58] <JustinNFX> g4lt-lappy, OH I DID it
[04:58] <JustinNFX> thanks
[04:58] <QPrime> b3rz3rk3r: he might be connecting from a windows box with vnc enterprise encryption on.
[04:58] <oliver__> i have a Question
[04:59] <JustinNFX> awesome stuff im going to put it in my linux book of super secret knowledge
[04:59] <JustinNFX> lol
[04:59] <b3rz3rk3r> QPrime, true
[04:59] <amitb> QPrime: I'm using the free vncviewer 4 on Windows.
[04:59] <kravlin> JustinNFX: i'm pretty much as clueless as you. I just started really using linux this last year because it was easier to log into my College's computers with it. I'm still learning things all the time.
[04:59] <g4lt-lappy> JustinNFX, what I typically do for you is j-u-s-t-<tab>, most IRC clients will complete the nick when you press tab
[04:59] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, what OS are ytou connecting form?
[04:59] <oliver__> can any one read this?
[04:59] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: vista.
[04:59] <tweaksource> Oliver...ask it.
[04:59] <JKoltner> oliver__: Just ask away
[04:59] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: I've also tried from Mac using chicken of vnc, same result
[05:00] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, make sure that you arent running encryption on the windows side either
[05:00] <QPrime> amitb: the no matching security types usually indicates an encryption or auth problem (client and server not agreeing on the settings)
[05:00] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: there no option for encryption on windows client.
[05:00] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, if you need security run it thru SSH, or openDNS
[05:00] <kravlin> andika-afk: that's basically what happens but it doesn't do anything to my hotkeys.
[05:00] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, did you disable it on the linux side too?
[05:00] <JustinNFX> g4lt-lappy, kravlin ynk so when I do this do the message go staight to everybody and no one else can see them? plug does it show all the names i put in or no
[05:00] <tweaksource> You can't forward VNC over SSH.
[05:00] <JKoltner> Is the channel named "apache" meant for generic discussion about the web server?  It says there are 299 users over there but there hasn't been anything written in the past 10 minutes I've been watching.
[05:01] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, and are you appeding the port number to the end of the ip?
[05:01] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: I don't know if I have enabled it.
[05:01] <JustinNFX> plus*
[05:01] <oliver__>  can i some how connect through a network from a windows OS to Ubuntu and have/use dual monitors
[05:01] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, as in xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xx
[05:01] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: yes I'm appending port number.
[05:01] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, ok
[05:01] <g4lt-lappy> JustinNFX, no it still goes out toeveryone.  /msg foo message is a private message, it's frowned upon in help channels though
[05:01] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: amitb-desktop:5900
[05:01] <kravlin> JustinNFX: no, everyone can see them. However, we get it in red, or blue or some other shiny color. It shows our names.
[05:01] <QPrime> tweaksource: why not? its tcp and a fixed port.
[05:02] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, check that under your linux remote desktop settings, use encryption is disabled
[05:02] <amitb> I can ssh into my linux machine, but how can I check if encryption is enabled?
[05:02] <kravlin> andika-afk: chepoxxx has my problem on that link. however unfortunately no answer was ever posted.
[05:03] <n8tuser> amitb-> by default ssh meant secure link
[05:03] <mobiGeek> is there a "best practices" guide to maintaining an Ubuntu system up to date (apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade) ?
[05:03] <texincali> kravlin: you still need help with your keys?
[05:03] <saurabh> i had vista and ubuntu in my system........later on i formatted my vista partition and reinstalled vista........now i canot boot into ubuntu even though its presenrt on the system.................pks help
[05:03] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, under the advanced settings, uncheck - require encrytion
[05:03] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, see if that helps things?
[05:03] <texincali> kravlin: for adjusting your audio
[05:03] <tritium> !grub | saurabh
[05:04] <JKoltner> oliver__: I suspect the answer is "most likely yes, but it could take some effort."  (A lot of the remote desktop solutions, including X itself, were designed before multiple monitors were common.)  Have you tried VNC?
[05:04] <kravlin> texincali: yep.
[05:04] <tritium> saurabh: you need to restore grub
[05:04] <nellmathew> hey is there a minimal iso available for jaunty so i can beta it?
[05:04] <tweaksource> QPrime: My bad, I stand corrected. http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/VNC/vnc-over-ssh.html
[05:04] <texincali> kravlin: ok go to system then to sounds
[05:04] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, i dont use vista, so i dont know about that side of things
[05:04] <amitb> I don't have physical access to my linux machine right now, so I can't go and change or even check  if encryption is enabled in remote desktop. All I can do is ssh into the machine.
[05:04] <kravlin> texincali: yeah, basic story is that i have hotkeys and 7 different devices, the hotkeys work but they change the wrong device.
[05:04] <saurabh> tritium:how to restore grub
[05:04] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: I have access to Vista, Mac and XP right now.
[05:04] <LlamaZorz> is their a development channel?
[05:04] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, grr.. that makes things rather difficult
[05:04] <tritium> saurabh: I had ubottu send you info above.  Scroll up.
[05:04] <oliver__> no, i tried to google for anything but couldn't find anything...
[05:05] <QPrime> tweaksource: np :)
[05:05] <kravlin> texincali: done.
[05:05] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, iv had it running under Xp just fine before
[05:05] <texincali> kravlin: oh i was ganna say change the default mixer tracks to your soundcard
[05:05] <mylisto> when trying to open help in kdenlive and a few other programs I get this error
[05:05] <mylisto> The file or folder help:/kdenlive/index.html does not exist.
[05:05] <amitb> are the remote desktop settings stored somewhere on disk?
[05:05] <tweaksource> http://www.openssh.com/macos.html
[05:05] <amitb> that I can go and check in a config file or something?
[05:05] <raven> hello... synce-serial-start gives me "Warning! You have firewall rules that may prevent SynCE from working properly!" but my firewall tells me, that it's OFF! my ppc can connect for maximun one minute and then the connection is terminated - who could help?
[05:06] <kravlin> texincali: already tried that. I've changed them all but they still affect the wrong device.
[05:06] <n8tuser> raven-> umm what command did you verify that your firewall is off?
[05:06] <tweaksource> Anyone in here have experience with psychotic network cards?
[05:06] <raven> sudo ufw status
[05:07] <raven> and the connection info...
[05:07] <n8tuser> raven do it this way instead  sudo iptables -vL
[05:07] <bullgard4> tweaksource: What about sseing a doctor?
[05:07] <Hamled> what is the ubuntu package that covers everything you need to be able to build stuff from source (or the basics at least)
[05:07] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, im sure that they are stored somewhere, but as to where is beyond me im afraid
[05:07] <tweaksource> Hamled build-essential
[05:07] <Hamled> thanks
[05:07] <QPrime> Hamled: build-essentials?
[05:08] <Hamled> yeah, I always forget the name
[05:08] <tweaksource> build-essential
[05:08] <n8tuser> dont forget the linux-headers too
[05:08] <Hamled> isn't that only for stuff that uses the kernel?
[05:09] <QPrime> tweaksource: you are correct sir :)
[05:09] <tweaksource> A rare occurance, my friend.
[05:09] <tweaksource> I've been using Linux, mainly Ubuntu, for about 3 years. Haven't used Windows @ home in a while. I have several thousand dollars in Audio Production software which is winblows only. I wanted to use it again so I installed fresh WinXp. Everything is fine. I installed Xubuntu 8.04 and the Network Autoconfig failed. I tried to manually configure and it won't initialize the interface. So I tried a Mandriva 2009.0 disc - no network. DSL
[05:10] <QPrime> Hamled: headers are referenced by many applications during compilation.
[05:10] <JustinNFX> When you install jargon where does it go?
[05:10] <oliver__> JKoltner> will remote desktop software alow dual monitors?
[05:10] <Hamled> QPrime: okay, good to know
[05:10] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: Ok found the settings for remote-desktop, in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/remote_access, there indeed is a 'require_encryption' entry.
[05:10] <tweaksource> Realtek 8101L onboard lan?
[05:10] <maynardwv> I am currently running ubuntu 8.1, and attempting to check out windows7 in virtualbox, but am unable to do so.
[05:11] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, ok great.. set that to value = 0
[05:11] <nellmathew> hey guys, what commands do i need to install ubuntu/gnome (complete default install) using minimal iso? (need to use it cause i have cdrom issues with my laptop)
[05:11] <bangwall> ..
[05:11] <tweaksource> http://tech.norabble.com/2006/07/dual-monitor-remote-desktop-goodness.html
[05:11] <Hamled> QPrime: I have a friend who is trying to compile some utility for no-ip, and gcc is saying stderr and such isn't defined, would the libraries/headers for that be covered by installing build-essential?
[05:11] <Titan8990> nellmathew, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:11] <kravlin> texincali: finally got it, fiddled with random things till it broke in the right way.
[05:11] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: it's true/false, I changed it to false. Will the change take effect immediately?
[05:12] <bangwall> quit
[05:12] <bangwall> \quit
[05:12] <Dei> is anyone familiar with ISPConfig and BIND?
[05:12] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, save and exit file, then retry connection. shouldnt require a reboot
[05:12] <nellmathew> Titan8990, "cli" then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will the exact same as a LiveCD install right? (extra packages included, pidgin, transmission ect..?)
[05:12] <Titan8990> nellmathew, yes, its the gnome meta package
[05:12] <raven> n8tuser ok iptables does not tell me anything special... but i am not really sure about finding the synce-connection listed there...
[05:12] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: I think there has to be a way to tell gconfd to reload config.
[05:12] <nellmathew> Titan8990, thanks for the help
[05:13] <Titan8990> nellmathew, np
[05:13] <QPrime> Hamled: depends on the libraries that the application you are building is making use of.  did the util come with a makefile?
[05:13] <Dei> is anyone familiar with ISPConfig and BIND?
[05:13] <Hamled> QPrime: yeah it has a makefile
[05:13] <n8tuser> raven-> do you see any rules listed? if there is, then you have iptables rules and it doesnt mean your firewall is off
[05:14] <maynardwv> I am currently running ubuntu 8.1, and attempting to check out windows7 in virtualbox, but am unable to do so. "VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED (rc=-1908)" error received
[05:14] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, no idea.. google? otherwise you can jsut reboot. will have the same effect
[05:14] <texincali> need somone to help me configure my audigy 4 to be the soundcard that ubuntu 8.1 uses instead of my onboard without disableing my soundcard in the bios...
[05:15] <QPrime> Hamled: most source-code builds will give you an idea of the -dev versions of packages that need to be installed for a successful build.  there should be some info about what needs to be available for the compile.  I'm guessing that this is not a source package, but a source tar?
[05:15] <Hamled> QPrime: it's a very simple app, it just runs a single gcc command "gcc -Wall -g -Dlinux -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" noip2.c -o noip2"
[05:16] <texincali> need somone to help me configure my audigy 4 to be the soundcard that ubuntu 8.1 uses instead of my onboard without disableing my soundcard in the bios...
[05:16] <crdlb> Hamled: btw, there's a noip client in the repos
[05:16] <Hamled> oh, okay I will let him know, thanks
[05:16] <QPrime> Hamled: best bet is the prebuild repo .deb  build only if you HAVE to.
[05:16] <oospunkey> is this the ubuntu help line?
[05:16] <crdlb> Hamled: the package is noip2
[05:17] <texincali> need somone to help me configure my audigy 4 to be the soundcard that ubuntu 8.1 uses instead of my onboard without disableing my soundcard in the bios...
[05:17] <Hamled> yeah thanks :)
[05:17] <Hamled> I'm just trying to help him get some stuff done, didn't realize he didn't even check apt
[05:18] <QPrime> Hamled: tell him apt will quickly become his best friend.
[05:18] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: gconftool --set /desktop/gnome/remote_access/require_encryption --type boolea false
[05:18] <Hamled> yeah, I'll try to burn that into his mind :)
[05:18] <Hamled> anyways, QPrime, crdlb, you guys have been very helpful
[05:18] <QPrime> oospunkey: occasionally.
[05:18] <crdlb> Hamled: also, many consumer routers have that feature now, so you don't need anything running on the computer
[05:18] <Hamled> cool
[05:18] <abhishekiitd> hello everyone..ubuntu cannot detect my in-built fingerprint reader.please help
[05:18] <QPrime> Hamled: no problem :)
[05:18] <crdlb> (and there's no lag on public ip changes)
[05:19] <oospunkey> anybody good with network issues?
[05:19] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, nice one.. thx. so yeah.. there you go. Does that work now?
[05:19] <n8tuser> !ask | oospunkey
[05:19] <raven> ok i think i pointed out the firewall and any password as error... BUT when is run synce-serial-start it takes minutes until it connects but then after c.a. one minute it disconnects again - soon i will not have any ideas any more ;)
[05:19] <abhishekiitd> hello everyone..ubuntu cannot detect my in-built fingerprint reader.please help
[05:19] <QPrime> oospunkey: whats the issue?
[05:19] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: no doesn't work. If I kill the desktop, will I be able to connect to the X session and login?
[05:20] <stategrid> hehe
[05:20] <abhishekiitd> hello everyone..ubuntu cannot detect my in-built fingerprint reader.please help
[05:20] <Excell> they use fingerprint readers now?..dang.
[05:20] <zROFLz> heyo
[05:20] <zROFLz> im so drunk
[05:20] <balla> ayoo
[05:20] <balla> im dwunk lol
[05:20] <[Maelstrom]> hey all
[05:20] <balla> LOL MAULSTROM
[05:21] <oospunkey> I get this message: "Failed to retrieve share list from server" everytime I try to access my network
[05:21] <abhishekiitd> hello everyone..ubuntu cannot detect my in-built fingerprint reader.please help
[05:21] <raven> ok i think i pointed out the firewall and any password as error... BUT when is run synce-serial-start it takes minutes until it connects but then after c.a. one minute it disconnects again - soon i will not have any ideas any more ;)
[05:21] <tritium> Stay on topic, balla.
[05:21] <tritium> abhishekiitd: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader_with_ThinkFinger
[05:21] <balla> j
[05:21] <[Maelstrom]> balla, hi balla
[05:21] <balla> drunk
[05:21] <balla> hi lol
[05:21] <[Maelstrom]> I need a help
[05:22] <[Maelstrom]> I'm on windoze currently
[05:22] <QPrime> oospunkey: need more info... you are accessing a windows server via samba?
[05:22] <opera> ！thread
[05:22] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, ahhh.. this is infuriating. without physical access to the machine, this is proving for harder than it should be
[05:22] <[Maelstrom]> and I'm not able to telnet to my dlink router
[05:22] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: got it! I had to just do kill -HUP on vino-server
[05:22] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, congrats man!!! well done
[05:22] <oospunkey> trying to access through samba but can't figure out how to install samba in windows
[05:22] <opera> !thread
[05:22] <JustinNFX> to get manuals do I type :  sudo man program?
[05:23] <tritium> JustinNFX: no need for sudo with man
[05:23] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, sry i couldnt help, but nice one on getting it to work ;)
[05:23] <QPrime> oospunkey: samba isnt needed on windows.  its used to access SMB shares on a windows box from a *nix OS (like Linux)
[05:23] <Excell> Im on 7.10  /  is 8.10 (alot) better?.... and why....thanks.
[05:24] <abhishekiitd> Qprime:What is the command for installing all library packages? something like sudo apt-get install build essentials?
[05:24] <maynardwv> Has anyone used virtualbox to review any of the windws7 betas?
[05:24] <n8tuser> Excell-> nope, stay where you are if you dont know what you need.
[05:24] <amitb> now I'm connected to the VNC server but all I see is black screen
[05:24] <JustinNFX> so man program*
[05:24] <tritium> abhishekiitd: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:24] <oospunkey> ok trying to access a windows machine from ubuntu through my network I think that samba right?
[05:24] <abhishekiitd> trituim:thanks
[05:25] <Excell> ok n8tuser  will do... this 7.10 is working quite well......thanks
[05:25] <tritium> abhishekiitd: but that is not for all library packages.  That is for a basic set of packages you'll need for building from source
[05:25] <raven> ok i think i pointed out the firewall and any password as error... BUT when is run synce-serial-start it takes minutes until it connects but then after c.a. one minute it disconnects again - soon i will not have any ideas any more ;)
[05:25] <tritium> abhishekiitd: did you see the above URL for thinkfinger?
[05:26] <Excell> have a good day folks.
[05:26] <abhishekiitd> trituim:ok...but when i kehy in that command i got the error messgae:You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:   sun-java6-bin: Depends: sun-java6-jre (= 6-07-3ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[05:26] <QPrime> oospunkey: yes.  if you are using gnome (I'm assuming you are if you are using ubuntu) then open a nautilus window and type (smb://<servername>/<sharename>  (remove the angle brackets)
[05:26] <abhishekiitd> tritium:yes, it requires java and some essentials...so i need them
[05:26] <casinaroyale> anyone knows how to uninstall stuff installed with distutils??
[05:27] <QPrime> oospunkey: if things are working correctly and the share requires authentication then it will pop up an authentication dialog.
[05:27] <crdlb> casinaroyale: manually :/
[05:28] <oospunkey> is nautilus the same as terminal?
[05:28] <QPrime> oospunkey: no its the GUI wile browser in Gnome.
[05:28] <rww> oospunkey: Nautilus is GNOME's graphical file browser. Terminal is the thing you type commands into.
[05:28] <[Maelstrom]> anyone for my query ?
[05:28] <[Maelstrom]> I'm using a dlink GLB 502T router
[05:28] <tritium> abhishekiitd: see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkFinger
[05:29] <[Maelstrom]> the gateway is 192.168.1.1
[05:29] <QPrime> *file even! ;)
[05:29] <casinaroyale> crdlb: manually as ain search for all the installed stuff?
[05:29] <casinaroyale> crdlb: will that do ?
[05:29] <tritium> [Maelstrom]: do you have an *ubuntu* question?
[05:29] <crdlb> casinaroyale: yes, in general distutils does not provide an uninstall command
[05:30] <tritium> abhishekiitd: thinkfinger-tools and libpam-thinkfinger are in the repos.  You should not need to compile anything.
[05:30] <casinaroyale> crdlb: is there no better way?
[05:30] <abhishekiitd> tritium:but why do i keep getting this message despite just installing java..."> The following packages have unmet dependencies: >   sun-java6-bin: Depends: sun-java6-jre (= 6-07-3ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed > E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). "
[05:30] <Dei> is anyone familiar with ISPConfig and BIND?
[05:31] <crdlb> casinaroyale: if the installer doesn't hack uninstall onto it
[05:31] <oospunkey> ok opened gnome and typed in the address: smb://<servername> and got this error:Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server
[05:31] <oospunkey> Please select another viewer and try again"
[05:31] <rww> tritium: He just /noticed the channel and got banned by floodbot, so I'd say he has more of an #ubuntu problem ;)
[05:31] <casinaroyale> crdlb: can u do that\?
[05:31] <tritium> rww: indeed.  I noticed.
[05:32] <QPrime> oospunkey: is file sharing enabled on the windows host you are trying to browse?
[05:32] <crdlb> casinaroyale: what is the package?
[05:32] <oospunkey> yes I've shared files between my 2 windows machines all the time
[05:32] <casinaroyale> PacketManipulator by UMIT
[05:32] <QPrime> oospunkey: and btw... what is the os version of the windows host?
[05:33] <oospunkey> windows? uh xp sp3
[05:33] <BlackCoffee> can't get audacious to work on kde,but it works fine on gnome
[05:33] <casinaroyale> crdlb: http://trac.umitproject.org/wiki/PacketManipulator
[05:33] <oospunkey> ubuntu 8.10
[05:34] <QPrime> oospunkey: lovely... a fresh sp3 install *grin* who knows what goodies ms has put into that service pack. :P
[05:34] <abhishekiitd> trituim:ok but how do i navigate to root (root/etc) in terminal?
[05:34] <oospunkey> yepper :)
[05:34] <QPrime> oospunkey: xp home or pro?
[05:34] <oospunkey> home
[05:35] <zaccour> how should xubuntu be pronounced?
[05:35] <zaccour> x ubuntu? zoobuntu?
[05:35] <crf> hi, I just tried jaunty jackalope. Why is there "no apm support in kernel"
[05:36] <crdlb> casinaroyale: try 'sudo uninstall_umit'
[05:36] <zaccour> must not be an important question
[05:37] <crdlb> zaccour: probably zoo, I guess
[05:37] <casinaroyale> crdlb: you mean "./setup.py uninstall_umit "??
[05:37] <zaccour> thanks
[05:37] <crdlb> casinaroyale: no, it appears to have installed an uninstall_umit script
[05:39] <QPrime> oospunkey: xp home is a pain to get file sharing on for other operating systems... XP home in a windows Active Directory environment is torture.  My only advice is to bypass the MS 'sharing wizard' junk and see if you can create a local user on your Xp box to authenticate against when you try and access it from your linux box.  there are other areas that often need to be mucked with on the XP home side to make it work properly.  I 
[05:39] <o0Chris0o> ubutu come with pre enabled firewall?
[05:39] <toni_> Hi, I'm a linux noob, running Ubuntu 8.10. Just installed nwn and got it to run but the video is completely distorted. Any ideas why this might be?
[05:40] <casinaroyale> crdlb: it doesnt work
[05:40] <crdlb> casinaroyale: can you be more specific?
[05:41] <oospunkey> dang thanx QPrime, would it be worth it to downgrade to 8.04, I've read some report of ppl having trouble with samba and 8.10
[05:42] <suma1> #openfiler
[05:43] <casinaroyale> crdlb: "bash: uninstall_umit: command not found"
[05:43] <QPrime> oospunkey: I'm using 8.10 with no problems on a windows AD based network.  so I'm not sure that a downgrade will solve your issue.  You can prolly find quite a bit of useful info on XP Home edition file sharing with a  google search.  But like I said there are generally (small) changes to make to the way winxp home shares files in order to play nice with other hosts on your network.
[05:44] <abhishekiitd> Qprime:After installing thinkfinger, it says could not detect usb device when i try to run it. the irony is that mine is not a uysb device at all...please help
[05:44] <casinaroyale> crdlb: I can get the PacketManipulator installed. The problem is it doesnt install the plugins. So, I am trying to reinstall it.
[05:44] <oospunkey> QPrime: thanx for ur help NE ways
[05:45] <crdlb> casinaroyale: I guess it didn't install properly then, xplaining the missing uninstaller
[05:45] <QPrime> oospunkey: no problem  hope you get it worked out (shouldnt be too much of a pain - but it will require a little reading on XP home and its file sharing)
[05:46] <casinaroyale> crdlb: How did you know about the uninstaller?
[05:46] <crdlb> casinaroyale: I looked at the setup.py on their source code browsser: http://trac.umitproject.org/browser/trunk/setup.py
[05:46] <QPrime> abhishekiitd: I'm not familiar with thinkfinger... hopefully someone else in the channel is.
[05:47] <nullbyte> Hi... I have a damned problem that annoys for some hours... I plug in a PS/2 mouse, the optic led opens up, but I can't move the cursor on the screen... any fixes before I start cutting my veins please? Thanks...
[05:47] <QPrime> nullbyte: did you plug it in before you booted?
[05:48] <nullbyte> Yes.
[05:48] <QPrime> nullbyte: ubuntu?  what version?
[05:49] <nullbyte> Intrepid Ibex
[05:49] <QPrime> nullbyte: tested the mouse on another pc?
[05:49] <nullbyte> Yes, on a WinXP box.
[05:49] <nullbyte> It works... :(
[05:50] <QPrime> nullbyte: Hmmm... do you have dual boot on the ubuntu box?  are you sure its not a hardware issue with the PS/2 port on the ubuntu box?
[05:51] <nullbyte> I don't have dual-boot, only Ubuntu... Yes I am sure it's not an issue with the port, because practically the mouse gets detected, but I can't move the cursor...
[05:51] <clearscreen> Uhm, when some applications maximize, they take up the whole screen which makes it impossible to use scrollwheel to switch to another workspace.. Is the only 'fix' to this problem to install a theme with a wider border?
[05:52] <casinaroyale> crdlb: I am not installing the complete package umit. I am installing only PacketManipulator
[05:52] <casinaroyale> crdlb: http://trac.umitproject.org/browser/branch/PacketManipulator
[05:53] <QPrime> nullbyte: gets detected?  if you mean the optical led... that just means its getting power on the port.  have you taken a look at dmesg or the logs to see if there is anything in there about the mouse?
[05:53] <nullbyte> So, what I must type after plugging in the mouse?
[05:55] <QPrime> nullbyte: in general ps/2 standard never guarantees hot-plug operation (in fact in some very old mother boards you can damage the PS/2 port with a hot plug - generally not a problem with boards newer than 8 years or so)
[05:56] <QPrime> nullbyte: is your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file empty or non-existent?
[05:56] <nullbyte> QPrime, no.
[05:57] <QPrime> nullbyte: your installation is an upgrade from an older ubuntu version?
[05:57] <nullbyte> QPrime, no.
[05:59] <crdlb> casinaroyale: no uninstall script for that one, but nearly everything seems to be installed to /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PM/
[05:59] <QPrime> Hmmm... any X11 gear-heads in the channel want to take this one over?  It's been quite some time since I had to play with input config in an xorg.conf file.
[06:00] <nullbyte> brb
[06:00] <QPrime> nullbyte: assuming no hardware failure the newer xservers pretty much auto configure all input devices for you.  not much to do there unless you have a particularly odd config.
[06:01] <melik> whats a good CD ripper for linux?
[06:01] <clearscreen> My pidgin main window seems to be following all workspaces around (just in taskbar) even though it's set to "only on this taskbar"
[06:01] <melik> i want to rip in both flac and mp3
[06:02] <crdlb> clearscreen: jaunty support in #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <clearscreen> oh goddamnit, thought I was in there
[06:04] <bazhang> !info soundjuicer
[06:05] <bazhang> !info sound-juicer
[06:05] <TheDeepFriedBoot> Hello, I have 8.10 installed on an old laptop that I am using for a 3rd screen with synergy but I dont know if its USB ports are 1.1 or 2.0. In Ubuntu, how do I tell what speed the ports are running at?
[06:06] <QPrime> from console lsusb  should give you usb version numbers
[06:07] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Just says command not found
[06:08] <juan> holaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:08] <QPrime> strange...  lsusb  is pretty much a base package
[06:09] <TheDeepFriedBoot> well, I am in terminal and its sitting there waiting, so I entered lsusb and hit enter and it gave me command not found
[06:09] <juan> soy nuevo en Ubuntu
[06:09] <bazhang> !es
[06:10] <TheDeepFriedBoot> Wait, I got it working
[06:10] <mattaius> hello
[06:10] <TheDeepFriedBoot> Thx for the help
[06:11] <QPrime> no prob
[06:11] <TheDeepFriedBoot> too bad the ports are 1.1, anyone know any good PCICMA USB 2.0 cards that work with ubuntu and dont stick out the side?
[06:12] <juan> como modifico Ubuntu con temas de los q se descargan por la web?
[06:12] <TheDeepFriedBoot> !es
[06:12] <casinaroyale> crdlb: Thank u very much..... I'll look into it
[06:12] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: btw... lsusb is part of the usbutils package if you want info on the package you can type 'apt-cache show usbutils'
[06:13] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Thanks, know any good PCMCIA USB cards though? I want to put samba on the laptop and use it as a NAS for my windows machines
[06:13] <TheDeepFriedBoot> It has Firewire so I might just use that
[06:14] <mattaius> exit
[06:14] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: firewire is a good choice if you have peripherals thats use it (choice might be a little more limited tho)
[06:15] <juan> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:15] <Boohbah> !hi | juan
[06:15] <tinkerdom> OK, what is it about the eastern part of the 413 area code that makes it unserviceable? I just spent 3 days trying to get a DID only to be finally told that the provider can't get anything in my rate center.
[06:15] <Nikty> !hi | Nikty
[06:15] <juan> gracias
[06:15] <juan> soy nuevo recien instale el ubuntu
[06:15] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: I guess, the drive I wanted to use is USB only but I do have 2 firewire drives that would work.
[06:15] <juan> ayer
[06:15] <Nikty> ubottu: not funny
[06:16] <Crismusg> any problems
[06:16] <Crismusg> id like to help
[06:16] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[06:16] <Crismusg> and please tell ikonia that i`m sorry
[06:16] <Boohbah> !es | juan
[06:17] <EvaLuaTe> any idea when in april the next ubuntu version will be released?
[06:17] <juan> alguien me puedo decir como poner un tema para inicio de secion
[06:17] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @juan: Hablar ingles?
[06:17] <bazhang> juan, english only here
[06:17] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: the problem with PCMCIA/PC Card USB options is power... they almost always need an additional power source (sometimes even attached to the card itself)
[06:17] <Naynay> I've got 9.04-beta going at the moment, but my session keeps dying and returning me to the gdm login
[06:17] <bazhang> Naynay, #ubuntu+1 for that
[06:18] <Naynay> cheers
[06:18] <mib_s68dzfdg> howcome ubuntu 8.10 is worse than 8.04
[06:18] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Its a powered ext drive so that should not be an issue
[06:18] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: What to you mean worse
[06:18] <Boohbah> mib_s68dzfdg: specifically to make your life miserable
[06:18] <mib_s68dzfdg> i had to disable my net manager to get my net working!!
[06:18] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: Works ok for me, whats happening to you?
[06:19] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: WiFi?
[06:19] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: i gotacha on that, but you'd be surprised how often you need to power a PCMCIA card itself, even for attached usb devices that are self powered.
[06:19] <mib_s68dzfdg> also fixed ip after reconfiguring many times, it kept getting reset after reboot
[06:20] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Well that would still not be too much of an issue, this laptop is just coat hangered to the top of my other 2 screens and I use it to power my other USB junk so using a port to power the card is not an issue
[06:20] <mib_s68dzfdg> ultimately had to write to interfaces file and disable the connection manager altogether
[06:20] <mib_s68dzfdg> and then ultimately switched to debian :(
[06:21] <mib_s68dzfdg> @TheDeepFriedBoot LAN
[06:22] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: OK, because it all works well for me except for the LAN. My main laptop has a broadcom card that keeps causing kernel panics
[06:22] <ganymede> !hi | ganymede
[06:22] <nebbes> How would I give myself access rights to /dev/input/uinput
[06:22] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: I mainly use the Ubuntu partition for travel with my 3G phone as a modem and that works great
[06:22] <mib_s68dzfdg> @TheDeepFriedBoot i heard 8.04 doesnt have that problem at least
[06:23] <mib_s68dzfdg> anyone used django?
[06:23] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: 8.04 is great. And considering its a long term release, theres no problem sticking with it
[06:23] <escher1> Hello, i was wondering if someone could offer a fix for wireless connection that is very slow. Should be doing 320 kB  but only getting 14, 20 kB  ?
[06:23] <mib_s68dzfdg> @TheDeepFriedBoot that's all ok, but i changed to debian
[06:24] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @escher1: What type of laptop or more specifically, what type of WiFi card?
[06:24] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: I found the birthing pains for Hardy more painful than Intrepid or Jaunty (so far) has been
[06:24] <mib_s68dzfdg> @escher1 interesting nick; inspired by GEB, what?!
[06:24] <escher1> acer 6920 g, intel and i forget how to get the number ?
[06:24] <crink> escher1: make sure someone not stealing your wireless bandwidth
[06:25] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @escher1: OK, Ive dealt with broadcom issues but im not sure about intel
[06:25] <escher1> lol no it is an issue i have read about in many forums but have been unable to correct it
[06:25] <escher1> using wpa 2 for security
[06:25] <Ajit> how to manually install codec to play mp3 in totem (in ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn)
[06:26] <mib_s68dzfdg> @Ajit use rhythmbox
[06:27] <TheDeepFriedBoot> Oh, does anyone know if there is a nicer way to run a NAS off an old laptop than with samba? I liked FreeNAS with its features and webGUI but I want to be able to have a GUI as well
[06:28] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: you don't really what Gnome sucking away cache memory do you?  :P
[06:29] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Well, I kind of want to use this laptop for more than a NAS as well. As I said, I have it clipped to the top of my other screens with clips made from coat hangars and I use it like a 3rd screen with synergy
[06:29] <Slart> !feisty
[06:29] <QPrime> think of it as a Netware server and become one with the console/WebUI
[06:30] <Slart> Ajit: feisty isn't supported any more.. you can still run it, of course.. but upgrading is recommended
[06:30] <dingding> hello how can i speak with the operator?
[06:30] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Aww, but I dont want a terminal, it looks no nice on top of my other monitors, its like a HUD, currently its acting as a Wootoff monitor for me
[06:30] <Slart> dingding: they usually hang out in #ubuntu-ops
[06:31] <QPrime> Not familiar with FreeNAS  but I'm sure you could add XFCE to it by hand
[06:31] <nftyw_L> I flicked my scroll wheel and my desktop shifted to the side!
[06:32] <QPrime> nftyw_L: Compiz will do that for you!
[06:32] <nftyw_L> what is the keyboard shortcut for it
[06:32] <dingding> hello how can i speak with the operator?
[06:32] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: OK, ill look into that when I have time to mess around with the laptop. As for FreeNAS, go take a look at it, its really neat
[06:33] <Slart> dingding: try reading what people are telling you
[06:33] <MindVirus> Hi. When I open Firefox, it takes up the entire screen and hides my panel.
[06:33] <nebbes> How do I give myself access rights to /dev/input/uinput?
[06:33] <MindVirus> The title bar is non-existent.
[06:33] <nftyw_L> hit f11
[06:33] <MindVirus> I tried to alt+drag to no avail.
[06:33] <MindVirus> No, it's not in full-screen mode.
[06:33] <nftyw_L> oh ok
[06:34] <QPrime> nftyw_L: configurable but I think the default is <CTRL>+<ALT>+<arrow keys>
[06:35] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: I'll check it out, thanks.
[06:35] <dingding> mindvirus:the title bar is existing on other apps?
[06:35] <MindVirus> Of course.
[06:35] <nnutter> Is the Jaunty beta really only available as a DVD image? (Alpha 6 was a CD image.)
[06:35] <Slart> !jaunty | nnutter
[06:35] <MindVirus> dingding, interesting.
[06:36] <QPrime> nnutter: look at releases.ubuntu.com
[06:36] <nnutter> Slart, k.
[06:36] <nnutter> QPrime: irrelevant, but ty.
[06:37] <Ajit> How to upgrade?
[06:37] <MindVirus> nftyw_L, dingding: interesting. The window takes up the whole screen when I start it, but when I go to full-screen mode and go out, the window returns to normal.
[06:37] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Ajit: Upgrade what?
[06:37] <QPrime> nnutter: ???
[06:37] <Slart> !upgrade | Ajit
[06:37] <nnutter> QPrime: I apologize...
[06:38] <nnutter> QPrime: +ty
[06:39] <QPrime> nnutter: no problem.  the cd sized iso's are available there.  and you're welcome.  :)
[06:39] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: I googled installing Xfce in FreeNAS and its been done, but it seems to be more work than its worth
[06:39] <jhass840> Hi, all of a sudden I am no longer able to download packages using apt-get.  I get the following error Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:8118 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused).  Anyone know why this would happen?
[06:40] <QPrime> jhass840: using a proxy?
[06:40] <jhass840> QPrime: No
[06:41] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: awww, come on!  the thrill of the hunt is not appealing to you?  (even tho in this case it looks like you will have to dress your own kill)
[06:41] <dingding> !ban >dingding
[06:41] <MindVirus> My screen resolution is the image size. http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5117/screenshotc.png
[06:41] <QPrime> jhass840: based on that message you are.
[06:42] <MindVirus> This is obviously not full-screen mode.
[06:42] <QPrime> jhass840: 172.0.0.1 is your local loopback address
[06:42] <jhass840> QPrime: Well, then it has been set up without my knowledge
[06:42] <QPrime> jhass840: 127.0.0.1 is your local loopback address
[06:42] <c0l2e1> what to do to unmount CIFS before networkmanager disconnects on shutdown/restart?
[06:42] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: I really dont have too much time to mess around with it. Too much work in college. Also, I like Ubuntu. Samba seems to work fine so ill stick with that I guess
[06:43] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: I hear ya.  good luck. :)
[06:44] <SandGorgon> guys.. how does one upgrade to the latest transmission BT client
[06:44] <raven> still trouble syncing to pocketpc: it only works when i open "firestarter" and stop the firewall. i entered some rules to allow the connection but it does not work. and in addition to tht i still have to use synce-serial-start to initiate the connection; it does not work by script automatically
[06:44] <QPrime>  jhass840: check it out... an unknown proxy config on your box is something you want to look at.
[06:44] <raven> some ideas?
[06:45] <dingding> MindVirus:did you installed firefox themes?
[06:45] <MindVirus> What themes?
[06:45] <MindVirus> Furthermore, this is interestnig.
[06:46] <MindVirus> *interesting.
[06:46] <MindVirus> When I disable compositing, Firefox opens normally.
[06:46] <dingding> firefox themes-skins
[06:46] <MindVirus> dingding, I didn't install anything extra.
[06:46] <dingding> someone help mind virus
[06:47] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @MindVirus: Have you tried just reinstalling?
[06:47] <MindVirus> Firefox?
[06:47] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @MindVirus: Ya
[06:47] <MindVirus> *sigh* How will that help?
[06:47] <raven> still trouble syncing to pocketpc: it only works when i open "firestarter" and stop the firewall. i entered some rules to allow the connection but it does not work. and in addition to tht i still have to use synce-serial-start to initiate the connection; it does not work by script automatically. any ideas?
[06:47] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @MindVirus: Might reset it to defaults, could be some setting thats messed up. Is this a fresh install?
[06:47] <MindVirus> Somewhat.
[06:48] <MindVirus> I installed a week ago and Firefox never did that.
[06:48] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @MindVirus: Any new updates or anything?
[06:48] <MindVirus> Yeah, actually.
[06:48] <MindVirus> Good call.
[06:48] <MindVirus> That may be it.
[06:48] <MindVirus> TheDeepFriedBoot, how to check recent updates again?
[06:48] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @MindVirus: Umm, no clue, sorry...
[06:49] <MindVirus> Aye.
[06:50] <QPrime> MindVirus: check for firefox updates or Ubuntu updates?
[06:50] <MindVirus> Hmm.
[06:50] <MindVirus> I moved my .mozilla to mozilla and the problem does not occur anymore.
[06:50] <HammerHead66> hay has anyone seen this error before?      http://paste.ubuntu.com/138758/
[06:51] <MindVirus> Something's screwed in my settings.
[06:51] <dingding> hammerhead66: i did
[06:51] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: I am not an expert at errors but it looks like your computer is trying to DL updates from itself...
[06:51] <noren> hi all
[06:51] <MindVirus> Something in .mozilla.
[06:51] <noren> i m having trouble with the realplayer in kubuntu it pauses after every few seconds
[06:52] <noren> is it better to run it with wine
[06:52] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @noren: Have you tried something other than realplayer, such as VLC?
[06:52] <HammerHead66> TheDeepFriedBoot: ok how do I stop that?
[06:53] <Slart> HammerHead66: seems you're using some kind of proxy
[06:53] <noren> TheDeepFriedBoot: well rm and rmvb wont play in vlc
[06:53] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: Not sure, but since it says its trying to contact 127
[06:53] <dingding> HammerHead66: i had the same problem but with one file only
[06:53] <Slart> HammerHead66: annon-proxy? been using tor?
[06:53] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: Not sure, but since it says its trying to contact 127.0.0.1 which is your loopback address, you somehow need to set it back to the main udate servers
[06:53] <HammerHead66> ﻿TheDeepFriedBoot: have net encryption software active
[06:53] <HammerHead66> *I
[06:53] <dingding> sudo apt-get update
[06:54] <noren> how do u play rm and rmvd in vlc
[06:54] <noren> rmvb
[06:54] <Slart> noren: I don't think vlc can play realmedia files
[06:54] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: That software is most likely acting as a proxy, turn it off and try again
[06:54] <HammerHead66> ﻿TheDeepFriedBoot: I have net encryption software active. But even if I turn it off I get the same error
[06:54] <dingding> noren:it should play itself without codecs
[06:55] <heril> HammerHead66: a global variable is set for the proxy
[06:55] <noren> Slart: i guess so, is it better to get the real player running with wine
[06:55] <heril> HammerHead66: set|grep proxy
[06:55] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: The 127.0.0.1 is common for proxy software but you need to get it back to normal somehow
[06:55] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: Thats most likely where your problem lies
[06:56] <frybye> Start mplayer can handle them or...?
[06:56] <HammerHead66> ﻿heril:    ﻿TheDeepFriedBoot:  ok thanks guys
[06:56] <Slart> noren: nah.. use the linux version.. it's not that bad.. you download a binary and run it
[06:56] <heril> if a variable comes up from that command, unset it
[06:56] <frybye> <-- trying to remember how I do it at home - for bbc m-media content - mplayer and mplayer mozilla-plugin or similar...
[06:56] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @noren: I think VLC should be able to run realplayer media, try it, not much to loose and soo much to gail
[06:57] <QPrime> Thats the second possible 'proxy' issue... might be a broken update config in the repos?  I didnt ask what release jhass840 was updating against
[06:57] <Kimi> a flv file... has video and audi both.... but its not playing the video but i hear only audio///// what shall i install from synpantic ??
[06:57] <TheDeepFriedBoot> gain*
[06:57] <heril> some versions of realmedia can be played with VLC
[06:57] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: What program are you playing it with?
[06:57] <noren> TheDeepFriedBoot: it play only the sudio part no vid are comming in that
[06:58] <Kimi> all.. in default ubuntu and vlc
[06:58] <heril> mplayer is probably better for realmedia than vlc
[06:58] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: Strange, VLC is made to handle FLV. Might be something wrong with the FLV itself
[06:58] <Kimi> is there any flv player in synpantic ?
[06:59] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: Well, there are a lot of players, beyond VLC, I am not sure what else does FLV
[06:59] <MindVirus> I found a fix.
[06:59] <MindVirus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6183132#post6183132
[06:59] <Kimi> well.. i need only a flv player..... suggest some plz
[07:00] <zohreh> hello
[07:00] <Kimi> zohreh Hi
[07:00] <zohreh> how can start computer in specific time in ubuntu?
[07:00] <staniol> neata!
[07:00] <Kimi> TheDeep
[07:00] <Sagaci> to install the beta or to not install the beta
[07:00] <Slart> Kimi, TheDeepFriedBoot: isn't flv just a container format just like avi? it can use any number of weird codecs.. there's no way of knowing if you can play a file just by looking at the filetype
[07:01] <Kimi> TheDeepFriedBoot any suggestions for a flv player from synpantic ?
[07:01] <heril> you won't find something that only plays flv
[07:01] <Kimi> Slart ?!
[07:01] <jhass840> QPrime: I'm using Intrepid and I'm an idiot because I completely forgot that I used to run privoxy
[07:01] <heril> any program like that is useless as a desktop program
[07:01] <bazhang> Kimi, miro
[07:01] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: As I said, I dont know of any other programs that do FLV besides VLC since I only ever use VLC for FLVs
[07:01] <kleniu> !pl
[07:01] <Kimi> bazhang is it in synpantic ?
[07:01] <bazhang> Kimi, yes
[07:02] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:02] <Kimi> bazhang now thinking little differenet :P how do i install something in repositatory from terminal ?
[07:02] <QPrime> jhass840: *grin* no problem... thanks for the update.  things working properly for you now?
[07:02] <heril> Kimi: sudo apt-get install
[07:02] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:02] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:02] <bazhang> INGENIEROSISTEMA, english here
[07:02] <Kimi> heril thanks.../
[07:03] <Slart> !es | INGENIEROSISTEMA
[07:03] <jhass840> QPrime: yeah, everything is peachy now
[07:03] <bazhang> !br | INGENIEROSISTEMA
[07:03] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:03] <Kimi> is there any ubuntu chanel for hindi ?
[07:03] <QPrime> jhass840: yay!
[07:03] <Slart> !irc | Kimi
[07:03] <bazhang> Kimi, #ubuntu-in
[07:04] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:04] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:04] <FloodBot2> INGENIEROSISTEMA: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <bazhang> INGENIEROSISTEMA, stop
[07:05] <zohreh> any idea?
[07:05] <INGENIEROSISTEMA>  I SPEAK ENGLISH
[07:05] <jhass840> Alright, well I'm going to go play Thousand Parsec now.  Goodnight
[07:05] <bazhang> INGENIEROSISTEMA, dont use caps
[07:05] <HammerHead66> ﻿heril:    ﻿TheDeepFriedBoot:  ok know I understand why it is giving me the error. Thanks for the help.
[07:05] <heril> Kimi: for more details for command line installing, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[07:06] <Kimi> [sudo] password for krishna:
[07:06] <Kimi> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:06] <Kimi> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:06] <Kimi> ?
[07:06] <TheDeepFriedBoot> Hey, Im back. I am on Mibbit web IRC atm and it disconnected me for some reason
[07:06] <bazhang> Kimi, is another instance running?
[07:06] <heril> Kimi: is synaptic running?
[07:06] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, are you running update manager or an apt-get?
[07:07] <Kimi> only terminal, browser and xchat
[07:07] <andika> Kimi: sudo lsof -n|grep /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:07] <bazhang> !aptfix | Kimi
[07:08] <Kimi>  sudo lsof -n|grep /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:08] <Kimi> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/krishna/.gvfs
[07:08] <Kimi>       Output information may be incomplete.
[07:08] <Kimi> apt-get   5686       root    4uW     REG        7,0        0     243481 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:08] <jerknextdoor> is there an official torrent for 9.04 beta?
[07:08] <FloodBot2> Kimi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:08] <bazhang> jerknextdoor, #ubuntu+1 for that (yes)
[07:08] <andika> Kimi: there! apt-get still run
[07:09] <Kimi> i did what ubotttu said
[07:09] <Kimi> !thanks
[07:09] <TheDeepFriedBoot> lol
[07:09] <Kimi> ^ ?
[07:10] <jerknextdoor> bazhang: thanks.  i just happened to see the torrent right after i asked anyways.
[07:10] <Kimi> morning . i was asking.. how to extract __a to __f files :(
[07:10] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi:? at me or the bot?
[07:10] <Kimi> TheDeepFriedBoot at you :P but nothing... :P
[07:10] <Athenon> What software is reccomended in Ubuntu for an nntp _SERVER_?
[07:11] <Kimi> How do i join __a to __f files ?? any tool ?
[07:11] <heril> Kimi: what file format?
[07:11] <andika> join? cat will suffice I guess
[07:11] <heril> andika: assuming text data, yes
[07:11] <Kimi> name.rar.__a
[07:11] <andika> cat __a __b __c __d __e __f >> merged.file
[07:11] <Kimi> name.rar.__b
[07:11] <heril> Kimi: multi-part rar?
[07:12] <QPrime> well guys/gals/bots I'm off.  have a good night/day  :)
[07:12] <Kimi> no.. multipart rars will be part1.rar to partX.rar
[07:12] <andika> Kimi unrar x name.rar.___a ?
[07:12] <HammerHead66> ﻿QPrime: have a good night
[07:12] <Kimi> my frnd sent it.. earlier he sent in .rar.001 format .. i solved it with hjsplit....... now he is sending in __A __B how to join ?
[07:12] <Kimi> hjsplit didnt work on it
[07:13] <heril> Kimi: what's file name.rar.___a say?
[07:13] <Kimi> i tried all these morning itself.... asked them here
[07:13] <Kimi> i need a specific tool to join them
[07:13] <Slart> Kimi: have you asked your friend what software he used to create those files?
[07:13] <Kimi> like hjsplit .... to join 001 to 00x  but hj wont work on this
[07:13] <Kimi> Slart thats really his challenge :'(
[07:14] <g4lt-lappy> well, there is a nice tool called file that will tell you what type it is
[07:14] <heril> Kimi: but it would help you put them back together, yes?
[07:14] <Kimi> heril ?!
[07:14] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: Most extraction apps will extract all parts when you tell them to extract part 1 assuming there all in the same directory
[07:14] <heril> Kimi: if we know what he put it together with, we can know maybe how to put it back together
[07:15] <Kimi> some movie
[07:15] <g4lt-lappy> fine, ignore me.  your loss
[07:15] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: Have you tried 7zip and tried to extract the main one?
[07:15] <noren_> 7zip is good tool
[07:15] <Slart> !who | g4lt-lappy
[07:15] <Kimi>  i backitup and tried p7zip
[07:16] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: OK, because with 7zip, you put all the rar.001 - rar.whatever files in the same place and tell it to extract the 001 file and it will jump from file to file and put them back gethther
[07:16] <Sagaci> !tab
[07:17] <Kimi> TheDeepFriedBoot, what i mean is you dont understand
[07:17] <pawan1234> hi
[07:17] <pawan1234> what is the latest version of azureus
[07:17] <Kimi> TheDeepFriedBoot, its not working.. tried p7zip .... tried to open __a with it
[07:17] <pawan1234> how to install it
[07:18] <pawan1234> how to associate mp3 files to load default by audacious
[07:18] <noren_> pawan1234: use synaptic or apt-get
[07:18] <g4lt-lappy> pawan1234, sudo apt-get install azureus
[07:18] <HammerHead66> ﻿Kimi: how big is the file extracted?
[07:18] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @pawan1234: Goto the application menu on the top bar and goto add/remove, then make sure all applications is selected beside the search box and then search for what you need
[07:19] <g4lt-lappy> slacker_nl, now watch, even when I did what you think, I'll still be ignored
[07:19] <g4lt-lappy> slart ^^^^
[07:19] <jerknextdoor> g4lt-lappy: what do you need?
[07:19] <bluenzo> okay i just ...broke something
[07:19] <bluenzo> lol
[07:20] <kraut> moin
[07:20] <g4lt-lappy> jeremy_c, nothing, I just gave the answeres to two people asking questions and wsas disgusted when they were completely ignored
[07:20] <g4lt-lappy> jerknextdoor, ^^^^^
[07:20] <sprockets2000> anyone ever had a problem where it wont let you activate the nvidia prop drivers
[07:20] <sprockets2000> can i just edit the xorg.conf to use "nvidia"
[07:20] <bluenzo> i had windows7 on my 640GB HDD, then installed ubuntu on a 40GB HDD, then deleted windows7 and installed windows vista on the 640GB, now the bootloader isnt showing up, i dunno how to fix this
[07:21] <jerknextdoor> g4lt-lappy: it's a voluntary support channel.  we help who we can.
[07:21] <noren_> !grub | bluenzo:
[07:21] <g4lt-lappy> jerknextdoor, uhm, I'm the supportER here
[07:21] <bluenzo> thanks
[07:22] <Slart> g4lt-lappy: so? dont answer that person again.. don't answer anyone.. we're all volounteers here
[07:22] <noren_> g4lt-lappy: just cool down buddy :)
[07:23] <g4lt-lappy> Slart, REALLY?  I've only been helping on this particular network for a decade
[07:23] <Slart> g4lt-lappy: then you should know better
[07:25] <noren_> g4lt-lappy: then u might help me out with the real media prob of mine ?? it gets stuck after every few second i am trying to solv it
[07:25] <bouma> con someone please tell me is it possible to use a wifi adapter (that is already detected in my laptop) to 'create' a wireless access point, so that other devices will 'See it' when they browse for wifi
[07:25] <bouma> ???
[07:25] <g4lt-lappy> noren_, real has some pretty hard issues with latency.  have you tried helix?
[07:26] <bouma> iive been googling on the issue, but so far cant find a definitive answer
[07:26] <g4lt-lappy> (helix is the FOSS version of real)
[07:26] <bouma> i thought it was something that i read the newest linux kernel could do, on slashdot
[07:26] <heril> bouma: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[07:26] <g4lt-lappy> bouma, depends, a few adapters have a host mode, most will just have to deal with ad-hoc
[07:26] <bouma> but is this available under ubuntu 8.10, otherwise can i do it by compiling my own kernel ?
[07:26] <fangyanna> ni hao
[07:28] <bouma> thanks heril
[07:28] <noren_> g4lt-lappy: yes i have its same there, thts why i why thinking of getting the realplayer (windows vers) and try it out with wine. what do u say
[07:28] <g4lt-lappy> boubbin_, it's pretty adapter specific
[07:28] <g4lt-lappy> noren_, certsainly can't hurt.  have you gone to a speedtest webssite and ensured you aren't having latency issues?
[07:28] <bouma> heril: i dont really know the nomenclature of wifi, i have just treated it as a magical black box that works. i thought i knew abit about networking until wifi happened. now i feel behind the times
[07:28] <noren_> g4lt-lappy: latency issue,, how to check that
[07:28] <bouma> heril: can a itouch connect to an adhoc wifi network  ?
[07:28] <glitchd> got a problem with atheros wifi
[07:28] <glitchd> can anyone help?
[07:28] <HammerHead66> ﻿bouma:  https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/internet/C/wireless.html  here is another place for you to learn from
[07:28] <g4lt-lappy> noren_, go to one of the speedtesting websites and ensure that you're actually getting the network speed your ISP claims
[07:29] <corinth> What's the problem, glitchd ?
[07:29] <crdlb> bouma: what chipset is it?
[07:29] <corinth> Is the DVD the only form the beta comes in? No ~700mb CD?
[07:29] <heril> bouma: a quick google search shows people have done it
[07:29] <glitchd> corinth, is it ok if i pm u?
[07:29] <noren_> g4lt-lappy: but what is that to do with some files i already have on my harddisk
[07:30] <crdlb> corinth: there is a CD, but please join #ubuntu+1
[07:30] <Acedip> well guys when i type "sudo apti" and TAB it shows me this " sudo aptitu_get_cword    compgen -c -- $cur"  and starts the in-shell
[07:30] <glitchd> corinth, this place is a lil much for me
[07:30] <corinth> crdlb: Ah bah, thanks.
[07:30] <g4lt-lappy> noren_, .rm files STILL access the network
[07:30] <g4lt-lappy> if it's not a .rm file, WTF are you using real, use a player that's aimed at the file
[07:31] <noren_> wow i never knew that,
[07:31] <g4lt-lappy> noren_, \strings the .rm file, you'll find ot has a rtsp url in it
[07:31] <noren_> i got rmvb files
[07:31] <sprockets2000> for some reason on my wifes notebook i cannot get the nvidia drivers to install it comes up downloading and installing and just goes away
[07:31] <sprockets2000> is it possible to use the open source driver "nv"
[07:32] <sprockets2000> or is there another way to get the prop drivers working
[07:32] <g4lt-lappy> sprockets2000, which versiojn of nvidia, and which card?
[07:32]  * g4lt-lappy bets it's a legacy/177 issue
[07:32] <sprockets2000> g4lt its not a dedicated card
[07:32] <sprockets2000> its a integrated
[07:32] <noren_> sprockets2000: use apt-get install
[07:32] <g4lt-lappy> 5200go?
[07:33] <sprockets2000> for what noren
[07:33] <sprockets2000> for what package
[07:33] <grodius> hey could anyone help me? im trying to install compiz.
[07:33] <sprockets2000> its a 7150M I believe
[07:33] <g4lt-lappy> sprockets2000, seriously, what adapter, I'll bet you're trying to install 177 with a legacy adapter
[07:33] <Maslow> Hi, any of you happen to know how to change the default application used to open particular filetypes?
[07:33] <sprockets2000> g4lt its integrated 7150m
[07:33] <g4lt-lappy> 7150m, yup.  use 173
[07:33] <sprockets2000> tried 173
[07:33] <sprockets2000> no dice
[07:33] <HammerHead66> does anyone know how to purge ATI Radeon drivers?
[07:34] <crdlb> Maslow: right click on a file of that type and go to properties > open with
[07:34] <crdlb> HammerHead66: which ones?
[07:34] <spoown> Hello all
[07:34] <grodius> has anyone run compiz on jaunty?
[07:34] <g4lt-lappy> HammerHead66, sudp apt-get --purge remove
[07:34] <Maslow> OIC, dur. Ty.
[07:34] <crdlb> grodius: many people, but they're in #ubuntu+1 :)
[07:34] <g4lt-lappy> grodius, jaunty -> #ubuntu+1
[07:34] <Nalf> g4lt-lappy, he needs the package name.. it's xorg-fglrx something ridiculous.
[07:34] <HammerHead66> ﻿g4lt-lappy: ty you have really helped me out
[07:35] <grodius> thsns guys
[07:36] <sprockets2000> but its not a big deal i mean i am fine using the open source drivers, "nv" xf86-video-nvidia but no idea what the package name is in apt
[07:36] <spoown_> Can I Get some help ? I cannot play sound, and alsa config seems pretty good, no mute in alsamixer, and the proper driver are loaded ? I don't see why I cannot get sound ! any clue ?
[07:36]  * nanmalm away
[07:37] <eqisow> spoown: do you have more than one output device? for example, a normal analog speaker out AND a PCM optical/coaxial out?
[07:37] <noren_> !sound | [Spoown_
[07:37] <heril> sprockets2000: apt-cache search nvidia|grep driver ?
[07:38] <spoown_> eqisow, no only one device I need, my speaker
[07:39] <g4lt-lappy> spoop, taht's nice, now does your COMPUER know that the only device you need is your speaker?
[07:39] <eqisow> exactly, if you have an optical out it may be set as default
[07:40] <eqisow> PCM out*
[07:41] <nftyw_L> Hmm a hopefully quick question, I'm trying to edit menu.lst in /boot/grub/ so I can destroy my ability to boot, but it won't let me save.  How do I get access?
[07:41] <g4lt-lappy> eqisow, well, optical too, but that's a bit more rare ;P
[07:41] <eqisow> nftyw: You need root priveleges to alter that file, use sudo.... did you say you're trying to make your system unbootable?
[07:41] <Slart> nftyw_L: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:41] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, qhy in gods name would you wnat to destroy your ability to boot?
[07:41] <sprockets2000> in ubuntu is the name of the driver "nv" i have the open source driver installed now and added "nv" as the driver in xorg and it fails to start x
[07:41] <Slart> nftyw_L: basically you need to be root to edit and save that file
[07:42] <nftyw_L> Sorry, I've been hanging around sarcastic people for too long
[07:42] <nftyw_L> I'm editing the file so it can boot off the win 98 partition on the old hard drive
[07:42] <simplexio> nftyw_L: need to use root access
[07:42] <spoown_> ubottu, Thanks it works, didn't the MM in alsamixer, and with GUI, I spotted at first time ! Thanks a lot, it was very simple...
[07:42] <nftyw_L> I can't find the terminal or console or command line or whatever
[07:42] <simplexio> nftyw_L: and nice see once a realist in channel
[07:43] <spoown_> g4lt-lappy, thanks for help, but found a solution... :)
[07:43] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, sudo vi /etc/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <eqisow> nftyw: alt+f2 then gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <[Mice]> join #linux-beginners-cn
[07:43] <eqisow> don't tell him to use vi, wth :/
[07:43] <nftyw_L> Yeah come on I'll at least try emacs over vi
[07:43] <g4lt-lappy> eqisow, *I* use it ;P
[07:44] <bouma> crdlb: well ive got the wireless connection from my lappy to the itouch, now how to share the connection? do i have to run a dhcp server on the lappy, and forward packets by using iptables or something. or can i use a nice gui to do it with a couple of clicks ??
[07:44] <Flannel> g4lt-lappy: It's best to recommend nano in this channel.
[07:44] <eqisow> lol, it's not a beginners editor and you know it lappy :p
[07:44] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, okasy sudo $EDITOR /etc/grum/menu.lst
[07:44] <g4lt-lappy> equwhen I started it was ;P
[07:44] <g4lt-lappy> eqisow, ^^^^
[07:44] <noren_> nftyw_L: use gedit or kate they are better gui editor
[07:46] <crdlb> bouma: what is the source of the net connection?
[07:47] <nftyw_L> That worked well eqisow, thanks
[07:47] <bouma> does anyone know about the 'shared to other computers' option under ip4 settings in the network mananger ??
[07:47] <bouma> does anyone know about the 'shared to other computers' option under ip4 settings in the network mananger ??
[07:48] <g4lt-lappy> bouma, yeah, that will set up an ad-hoc network for wifi
[07:49] <crdlb> bouma: if you're using wifi to receive your net connection, you can't also use that same wifi card for sharing to something else
[07:49] <nftyw_L> I should use rootnoverify in the bootmenu instead of root to boot Windows 98, is that right?
[07:49] <eqisow> nftyw_L: yes
[07:49] <nftyw_L> Mmkay.  The rest of it I believe I got down.
[07:50] <eqisow> you can pastebin if you want me to look at it
[07:51] <HammerHead66> To who ever it was that helped me with the ATI Radeon Driver purge it worked! Man I owe you one.
[07:51] <nftyw_L> Eh, I only changed a few lines and pretty much copy pasted the example with some reference to the manual so I think I'll be good
[07:51] <eqisow> good deal then
[07:52] <nftyw_L> Thanks a bunch for the advice
[07:52] <bouma> g4lt-lappy: ok so ive got a wired eth0 with internet, and i want to share it with my adhoc wifi network. do i use the shared with other computer option ?
[07:52] <bouma> crdlb: no ive got a wired internet and want to share with an adhoc wifi network
[07:53] <crdlb> bouma: ok, that should be possible as long as the driver supports it
[07:54] <BlackDalek> I am trying to see if I can open an MS Access database in Kexi... when I try to import it is crashing and giving errors - "b5efe000-b5eff000 r-xp 0000KCrash: Application 'kexi' crashing...  Could not find 'drkonqi' executable.  KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly." ...then it exits
[07:55] <oc__> i'm a long way from home and m$ stranded . .
[07:55] <bouma> crdlb: can i just put the lappy as my router in the itouch, and manually put in the dns to the itouch aswell. do i have to set the lappy to forward packets between the eth0 and the wifi adapter ?
[07:55] <nftyw_L> whoops!
[07:55] <crdlb> bouma: it's not really that simple; your driver needs to support being an access point
[07:55] <simplexio> bouma: yes you can.. bouma easiest way is bridge eth0 and wlan0 on lappy
[07:55] <g4lt-lappy> bouma, yes
[07:56] <bouma> simplexio: how to bridge them?
[07:56] <g4lt-lappy> crdlb, not an adhoc...
[07:56] <bouma> simplexio: with ifconfig ?
[07:56] <nftyw_L> Hmm.  Must have screwed up somewhere in there
[07:56] <Kimi> !tab > Kimi
[07:56] <simplexio> bouma: google . bridge linux .. .etc. you need bridge-utils , command to use is brctl
[07:56] <g4lt-lappy> infrastructure, yes, you have to have ap support, adhoc, just share and go
[07:57] <oc__> anyways, i would like to connect to my home ubuntu box via tightvnc web applet, problem is i cant seem to get it working(using ssh to set it up) any ideas?
[07:57] <bluenzo> !grub
[07:57] <heaga> hi !
[07:58] <ZeroKewl> hi i got some file in my trash that will not delete there files that i rip off a window disk how i delete them
[07:58] <oc__> actually i would be happy with any hints on enabling rdp, vnc or anything else via remote terminal
[07:59] <heaga> I have some trouble with my DWA-547 802.11n wifi card
[07:59] <Frogzoo> oc__: ssh in & run vnc?
[08:00] <g4lt-lappy> oc__, if you're ssh'd in, why not just forward X over ssh?
[08:00] <oc__> what are the steps to doing so?
[08:01] <scowcron> hi. I'm looking for some help getting S-Video to work on my system. I'm running ubuntu 8.10 with an Nvidia 9800GT card, nvidia driver v177.82. when I've just got the monitor hooked up, I get through the loading screen and then the output dies when it hits the GDM (unusable signal on the TV). I get no output whether I try TwinView or Separate X configurations if I have another monitor hooked...
[08:01] <eqisow> same as normal ssh, just use ssh -X
[08:01] <scowcron> ...up. can anyone help?
[08:01] <g4lt-lappy> oc__, forwarding X?  ssh -X host
[08:01] <oc__> hmm
[08:01] <eqisow> the box you're ssh'ing into needs to have X installed, of course
[08:01] <grodius> hey whats the jaunty channel?
[08:01] <Flannel> grodius: #ubuntu+1
[08:02] <grodius> Flannel: thanks
[08:03] <ZeroKewl> i got it fixed
[08:03] <BlackDalek> I am trying to see if I can open an MS Access database in Kexi... when I try to import it is crashing and giving errors - "b5efe000-b5eff000 r-xp 0000KCrash: Application 'kexi' crashing...  Could not find 'drkonqi' executable.  KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly." ...then it exits
[08:04] <eqisow> BlackDalek: try another db program?
[08:04] <BlackDalek> Does anyone know what the crash error means?
[08:05] <Guest8517> hi @ all
[08:05] <Kimi> Guest8517 Hi
[08:06] <Guest8517> can someone tell me a channel for ubuntu in german please
[08:06] <Frogzoo> !de
[08:06] <noren_> !gr
[08:06] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, honestly, I'd be using openoffice for jet stuff
[08:06] <Guest8517> much thx
[08:06] <g4lt-lappy> (jet is access's backend)
[08:07] <Kimi> in ms excel, type the numbers in all consecuttive cells and then in the last cell .. alt = will give the answer./. but cant do it in openOff
[08:07] <BlackDalek> tried open office... it just stalls.
[08:07] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, of course not, it's a different program.  I'm sure it can be done, you just have a differnt key combination
[08:07] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy, thats what i want to know
[08:08] <raven> any firewall - i think UFW - always reactivates. how can i stop this and disable it FOREVER
[08:08] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, is it loke office2009 or something, MS breaks stuff as a hobby :/
[08:08] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  plz dont direct me to another channeel
[08:08] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, well, there IS a openoffice channel, but honestly, I use openoffice very little and just knowthat it works every time I've used it
[08:09] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, not sure what version.. someone sent it to me. It is from maybe office 2007 on an XP laptop.
[08:09] <g4lt-lappy> of course, I have finger memory for Borland and lotus vice excel
[08:09] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, hmm, 2007 shoukld be integrated in new oo.o
[08:09] <androxoid1> Hiho, if got a problem with going full screen in games. When I start them my screen turns black and I get an "Analog - Out of Range - 80.8kHz / 65 Hz" Whereas the first number always changes to something between 80 and 85... anyone knows what could be the problem?
[08:10] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: turn your refresh rate down on your monitor
[08:11] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy, my dad knows only excel .... in his office  they use excel and now he gets confused with OOO
[08:11] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: should find what the optimum refresh rate is and resolution
[08:11] <androxoid1> it is on 50Hz in the resolutionoptions
[08:11] <androxoid1> I only can go for 50, 51 and 107
[08:11] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: what about your game options?
[08:12] <androxoid1> I cant get there, it starts in full screen
[08:12] <androxoid1> I got the prob at SuperTux2 and Extreme Tux Racer
[08:12] <g4lt-lappy> andwait, 50?  you realize that's your most limiting for resolutions?
[08:12] <Kimi> does anyone know ?
[08:12] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: you haven't messed with any settings?
[08:12] <goodbyeWindows> hi all :-)
[08:12] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows, Hi
[08:12] <androxoid1> nah, I just installed ubuntu yesterday
[08:12] <androxoid1> and then the games
[08:13] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows, your pic is very cool
[08:13] <goodbyeWindows> installed Xubuntu, likingi ti so far
[08:13] <goodbyeWindows> ...my pic?
[08:13] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, well I don't know... it's a mdb file and OOo Base just stalls and the window goes blank...
[08:13] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows,  i mean,, your NICK :P
[08:13] <cemc> can you or can you not have java plugin on firefox 64bit in 8.10 ?
[08:13] <goodbyeWindows> tehehe
[08:13] <goodbyeWindows> heheh, thanks Kimi
[08:13] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, have you run file against it to ensure it IS a access database?
[08:13] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows, B-)
[08:13] <goodbyeWindows> yeah i had jack of windows, heard about this, so i read up on it
[08:14] <goodbyeWindows> great so far, impressed that it picked up my wireless drivers!
[08:14] <goodbyeWindows> no luck on the Ethernet side tho, which is weird
[08:14] <Kimi> i want a real inspiring game like age of empire 3 in ubuntu....
[08:14] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: what do you have for a video card? Are there proprietor   drivers for your card
[08:14] <goodbyeWindows> probably something stupid i'm doing
[08:14] <g4lt-lappy> cemc, I don't see why not.  they make 64-bit java, and they make 64-bit firefox, they SHOULD play nice together
[08:14] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows,  why dont you type them all in one line ? ;)
[08:14] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, freeciv/freecol
[08:14] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, I don't know what you mean, but I know it is an access database file.
[08:15] <oc__> alright, worked, thanks yall
[08:15] <goodbyeWindows> haha, sorry about that
[08:15] <androxoid1> o0Chris0o: its the nVidia proprietor drivers
[08:15] <Kimi> !ask > goodbyeWindows
[08:15] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, file <file> checks the magic number inside the file to determine what type of file it is
[08:15] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  i saw their screenshots and ran away.. do you think its similar to AOE3 ?
[08:15] <goodbyeWindows> right, thanks Kimi, sorry about that, new to all this
[08:15] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: Did you enable the proprietor drivers for your card?
[08:16] <androxoid1> o0Chris0o: yes, the recommended one
[08:16] <goodbyeWindows> how do i do that o0Chris0o?
[08:16] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows,  no sorry :D
[08:16] <Nalf> If you have a radeon 4850HD on 8.10 don't do it!:P
[08:16] <voldermot> After i installed nvidia cuda...my X crashed...even though i had a backup of xorg.conf...it doesent work..can any1 help me
[08:16] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, no, i think they're better, since they're based off sid meier games vice AoE's god-only-knows-who
[08:16] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: androxoid1 hmmm
[08:16] <eqisow> goodbyeWindows: general advice, if you have issues or there are things you don't like about Xubuntu, pick up another distro. Choice is one of the wonderful thing about the Linux world. Hope you stay with us. :)
[08:17] <HammerHead66> ﻿ Nalf: are you having problems loading your drivers for it?
[08:17] <g4lt-lappy> and there was also a loki port of civ:CtP
[08:17] <goodbyeWindows> haha, thanks eqisow, oh it's not an issue yet really, sure there's something i can do to fix it
[08:17] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, it outputs "file V1.mdb: Microsoft Access Database"
[08:17] <Nalf> HammerHead66, installing drivers in 8.10 for my card totally destroys x.
[08:17] <goodbyeWindows> just thought i'd seek the wisdom of IRC
[08:17] <Kimi> eqisow, you are trying to send a new linux user ? :P :P :D: P
[08:17] <Nalf> HammerHead66, from what I have read there is a bug in ati's driver and it has issues with the version of x that is released in 8.10.
[08:17] <HammerHead66> ﻿ Nalf: check this out it will help you ok   http://paste.ubuntu.com/138785/
[08:18] <voldermot> After i installed nvidia cuda...my X crashed...even though i had a backup of xorg.conf...it does'nt work..can any1 help me??
[08:18] <eqisow> goodbyeWindows: by the way, I think there's a xubuntu specific channel.
[08:18] <goodbyeWindows> oh really, thanks eqisow
[08:19] <o0Chris0o> !xubuntu | goodbyeWindows
[08:19] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, okay, it is a access file.  well, that's no very nice of it to not be openable in OO.o :(.  have you tried anything else other than koffice and oo.o?
[08:19] <HammerHead66> ﻿ Nalf: I have had this problem too. But I fixed it.
[08:19] <goodbyeWindows> im not sure if it's a xubuntu specific problem, but yeah, my Ethernet doesn't seem to want to chat to my router
[08:19] <Nalf> HammerHead66, doing that doesn't fix it for me. :P I've done it before.
[08:19] <androxoid1> o0Chris0o: Im using a GeForce 6600 if that helps
[08:19] <Nalf> HammerHead66, do you have radeon hd 4850?
[08:19] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, I only got it this afternoon. tried only OOo Base and Kexi.
[08:20] <HammerHead66> ﻿ Nalf: you have to follow the directions or it will not work.......Not any other way none......please try it befor you say it doesn't work
[08:20] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: I'm not sure what else to tell you, if your range settings are correct, I'm not sure what else could be the problem
[08:20] <voldermot> After i installed nvidia cuda...my X crashed...even though i had a backup of xorg.conf...it does'nt work..can any1 help me??
[08:20] <bS\S0ck3tz> .
[08:20] <androxoid1> o0Chris0o:  where can I find those range settings?
[08:20] <voldermot> shd i have to maintain a back up for any other files?
[08:21] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: try asking in #xorg they may be able to help you
[08:21] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, have you messed with mdbtools?  apparently they're a set of tools to get a jet database to play nice in linux
[08:21] <Nalf> HammerHead66, I've done that exact process before. I tried virtually _everything_ I could think of, thanks.
[08:21] <androxoid1> alright thanks
[08:21]  * g4lt-lappy hasn't used them, TBH
[08:21] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: have to google the make and model and serial number to see if you can find a match to find the specs
[08:21] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, I've never heard of any such tool.
[08:21] <Nalf> HammerHead66, no matter what when I try to load x always spits out a 'no screens found' error.
[08:21] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, it's a package.  sudo apt-get install mdbtools
[08:22] <HammerHead66> ﻿ Nalf: you you have went into terminal exactly like I have said not any other way right?
[08:22] <goodbyeWindows> hehe ok guys, cheers for all your advice, if i have trouble, i might try straight ubuntu then get into all the flavours when im more versed in it haha
[08:22] <zimnyx> I have badblocks on disk (200 or above) found by `badblocks <device>`. While googling I've found information that badblock -w (write-mode) will force harddrive to internally fix badblocks using special free area of disk left for that purpose. Has anybody done that?
[08:22] <BlackDalek> installing it now....
[08:22] <ziroday> zimnyx: isn't fsck meant to fix badblocks?
[08:22] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, DISCLAIMER: I got this via apt-cache search, I have NFI what programs aare involved or how weloll they work
[08:23] <Nalf> HammerHead66: yes.
[08:23] <florin> hi all
[08:23] <voldermot> ziroday:yeah only for ext3 filesystems
[08:23] <ziroday> g4lt-lappy: please don't swear, even in acronyms
[08:23] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, ok.
[08:23] <HammerHead66> ﻿ Nalf: then ATI drivers for that card are not  ready yet for ubuntu to work
[08:23] <ziroday> voldermot: oh, is zimnyx not using ext3?
[08:23] <Nalf> HammerHead66, that's what I said, thanks.
[08:23] <zimnyx> ziroday: i'm using ext3
[08:24] <voldermot> ziroday: agreed..:P
[08:24] <ziroday> zimnyx: then why not use fsck?
[08:24] <ziroday> zimnyx: that's the recommended way to go around fixing bad blocks/drives playing up
[08:24] <zimnyx> ziroday: but e2fsck -c will mark damaged area, and I'm talking about disk-internal-fixing.
[08:24] <HammerHead66> ﻿ Nalf: I only say it that way because people go diffrent ways in terminal and it doesn't work any other way than I have said and people that think they know it all say terminal is terminal so they don't try it.
[08:25] <balrog__> how would i update a ubuntu install from a livecd?
[08:25] <bazhang> balrog__, the live is also an installer cd
[08:25] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, I installed mdbtools.... now what?
[08:25] <ziroday> zimnyx: that should all be in fsck, reboot into the recovery area, or from a livecd and just fsck the entire drive, it should repair bad blocks as well
[08:25] <bazhang> balrog__, update from alternate only
[08:25] <balrog__> how would i update a broken ubuntu install from a livecd?
[08:26] <ziroday> balrog__: you can update with the livecd, only reinstall
[08:26] <BlackDalek> how do I launch mdbtools or whatever....
[08:26] <zimnyx> ziroday: it's not root partiotion, no need of livecd
[08:27] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, dpkg -l will tell you what got installed.  go through the manpages for the individual programs and see if anything may give you some light, like maybe convert it to something mysql o koffice/oo.o can read
[08:27] <zimnyx> ziroday: so you don't know the answer to my initial question, do you?
[08:27] <ziroday> zimnyx: then just run sudo fsck /dev/whatever
[08:27] <BlackDalek> ok
[08:27] <zimnyx> ziroday: does it check for badblock without -c option?
[08:27] <ziroday> zimnyx: it should do
[08:27] <zimnyx> I cannot see it in manual
[08:28] <zimnyx> ziroday: are you guessing?
[08:28] <ziroday> zimnyx: well I did this procedure a couple of days ago and it worked :)
[08:29] <ziroday> zimnyx: and from what I can interpret from man fsck it will fix bad blocks
[08:29] <nftyw_L> Arrrgh
[08:29] <zimnyx> ziroday: have you badblocks on this device?
[08:29] <voldermot> zimnyx: y wud u want to identify where ur bad blocks are..fsck /dev/ur disk will repair the bad blocks...wudn dat do?
[08:29] <ziroday> zimnyx: yes
[08:29] <nftyw_L> Okay, so I hit alt f2 to get to the command line, put in 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst' and.... nothing happens
[08:29] <sexcopter> hi, how can i find what package a binary originates from?
[08:29] <zimnyx> voldermot: so what's the purpiose of -c option?
[08:30] <ziroday> zimnyx: just make sure you do fsck /dev/whatever instead of e2fsck /dev/whatever
[08:30] <ziroday> zimnyx: the -c option is used when you don't want the bad blocks to be repaired, just recorded
[08:31] <HammerHead66> ﻿ Nalf: Hay sorry I have step three wrong  don't restart at that time wait til the install is complete ok
[08:32] <kalidar> does anyone know of a easy to use nice graphical bootloader?
[08:32] <ziroday> kalidar: grub?
[08:32] <kalidar> grub is plain
[08:32] <nftyw_L> see easy to use
[08:32] <kalidar> anything else out their?
[08:32] <kalidar> i ment easy to install
[08:32] <kalidar> actualy
[08:33] <nftyw_L> Actually right now the issue is less grub and more why isn't sudo gedit working
[08:33] <g4lt-lappy> sexcopter, that's a non-trivial question.  I can't remember any tools that will go from file to package, but many that go from package to file
[08:33] <ziroday> kalidar: well its not going to do much as it  can't start the graphics drivers. You're never going to get animations/transparency or whatever. You can change the grub background image if you want. Also changing bootloaders is a dangerous action no matter what you replace it with
[08:34] <voldermot> i installed an api and it edited my xorg.conf....as a result my x fails to load..
[08:34] <kalidar> oh sad :( i liked the fedora graphical bootloader better
[08:34] <g4lt-lappy> sexcopter, TBH, the answer may be "rephrase what you want to do in a more doable form"
[08:34] <kalidar> and i could change the name of the drive i was conecting to aswell
[08:34] <ziroday> kalidar: err I'm pretty sure fedora is using grub
[08:34] <ikonia> kalidar: what is the problem ?
[08:34] <nemera> hi all
[08:34] <kalidar> no problen
[08:34] <ziroday> ikonia: he wants a prettier bootloader
[08:34] <ikonia> kalidar: as I told you in #kubuntu grub is a graphical boot loader - what more graphical do you want
[08:34] <kalidar> i just wana change my bootloader a bit
[08:34] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: interesting. i imagine it's something that people could make use of a lot, and it shouldn't be *that* hard
[08:34] <ikonia> kalidar: in what way ?
[08:34] <nftyw_L> Argh!  What happened to this OS?  I can't even get sudo to work now
[08:35] <ikonia> nftyw_L: what is the error
[08:35] <kalidar> like how i change the backround
[08:35] <ziroday> nftyw_L: errors?
[08:35] <g4lt-lappy> kal0, it's just grub.  you should be able to do evertyhing with ubuntu's grub you can with fedora's
[08:35] <kalidar> it wont let me
[08:35] <voldermot> i installed an api and it edited my xorg.conf....as a result my x fails to load..
[08:35] <ikonia> kalidar: what ar eyou trying to do
[08:35] <voldermot> can any one help me?
[08:35] <ikonia> kalidar: be specific
[08:35] <nftyw_L> There is no error I hit alt f2, put in sudo gedit and hit run and nothing happens
[08:35] <kalidar> change the backround
[08:35] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: well, i'm just curious what package provided "hp-systray", of course the name gives some hints
[08:35] <nemera> anybody can tell me how work ubuntu on a dual xeon 3.06ghz monocore server ?
[08:35] <ikonia> voldermot: if you ask a question
[08:35] <rww> nftyw_L: for a start, you should be using gksudo, not sudo, for gedit.
[08:35] <kalidar> to a immage
[08:35] <ikonia> kalidar: ok - so you need to install the splash-images package
[08:35] <kalidar> ok finaly :) thats all i wanted
[08:35] <ikonia> kalidar: you can't just use any image it has to be in a specific size / format
[08:35] <zimnyx> ziroday: thanks for your help (btw I have't know that e2fsck and fsck are different commands)
[08:35] <kalidar> how i get that
[08:35] <ikonia> kalidar: open the package manager and install it
[08:35] <kalidar> splash image package
[08:35] <nftyw_L> gragrgh
[08:36] <nftyw_L> ok, that worked, thanks.
[08:36] <kalidar> is called splash immage package
[08:36] <ikonia> kalidar: if you search for "grub" in the package manager you'll see the boot images
[08:36] <kalidar> ok thanks guys
[08:36] <ikonia> kalidar: search the repo and you'll see the correct name
[08:36] <g4lt-lappy> sexcopter, not drawing anything from memory herebut sounds like it's part of gnome-applets
[08:36] <rww> nftyw_L: you're welcome
[08:36] <voldermot> ikonia: i had a back up of xorg.conf...i copied it into xorg.conf...even then my x doesnt work..wat do i do?
[08:36] <nftyw_L> I assume gksu is shorthand for gksudo?
[08:36] <kalidar> kk
[08:36] <alphageek> how to delete old kernel images?
[08:36] <ikonia> voldermot: what's the problem
[08:36] <rww> nftyw_L: no, but on Ubuntu they do the same thing
[08:36] <ikonia> alphageek: just remove them from the package manager
[08:36] <oospunkey> anybody know why my windows shares folder in my network samba window is empty when I know windows has folders set to shared?
[08:36] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, sort of.  different interfaces to the same program
[08:36] <Frogzoo> alphageek: dpkg --purge image-###
[08:36] <voldermot> no graphical display..i am only able to use the konsole..:(
[08:36] <nftyw_L> Ergh.  What a pain
[08:37] <ikonia> voldermot: so what video card do you have ?
[08:37] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: actually, if memory serves, it appeared after installing kubuntu-desktop (was an ubuntu install), so i'd say it's a kde package, or something hp
[08:37] <voldermot> how do i kno tht?
[08:37] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: don't worry, it isn't important and i'll have a quick look
[08:37] <ikonia> voldermot: you bought the machine -
[08:37] <nftyw_L> Hooray!  I can edit and save a file!
[08:37]  * nftyw_L sets off celebratory fireworks
[08:37] <ikonia> voldermot: lspci will show you the pci devices (including the video card)
[08:37] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, not really, it's akin to vi and view, view is just vi -r
[08:37] <nftyw_L> Ugh there is no way in hell I am using vi
[08:38] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: found it, it's in hplip
[08:38] <g4lt-lappy> sexcopter, cool! just luck, or did you do a bit o greppage?
[08:38] <voldermot> nvidia geforce 8400M gs
[08:39] <voldermot> is that wat u asked?i dunno..
[08:39] <nemera> i m seeking to create a webserver /webmail machine and would like to know what kind of ubuntu to use, the machine will be a dual cpu xeon (P4 type ) is this will be good enough?
[08:39] <ikonia> voldermot: ok - so I suspect the issue is with not using the correct restricted drivers. I suggest you remove you're xorg.conf file totally, and restart X, it will try to use a failsafe mode which will allow you an X11 gui to then fix your problems
[08:39] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: educated search/guess
[08:39] <ikonia> nemera: ubuntu desktop 8.04, or 8.10
[08:39] <g4lt-lappy> nfc, no, but it's the easiest thing I could think of that had two filenames that did different things depending on how called.  other examples are gzip -D and gzcat
[08:39] <nemera> ikonia: 64bits or 32 bits ?
[08:39] <voldermot> ikonia: ok,thanks..:)
[08:39] <ikonia> nemera: does your cpu's support 64bit ? not all xeons do
[08:39] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, ^^^^
[08:40] <alphageek> so all I have to do is go to synaptic and right click on  "Linux kernel image for version 2.6.27-9-generic" and right click and mark for removal?
[08:40] <ikonia> alphageek: yes
[08:40] <nemera> ikonia: haven t buy the comp actually but yes emt64 is one of my request for it :)
[08:40] <ikonia> alphageek: the kenel is just a package like any other
[08:40] <nftyw_L> Hmm.
[08:40] <ikonia> nemera: then use what ever one you want
[08:40] <ikonia> nemera: if you've got 4GB of ram - use 64bit, if you've not it doesn't really matter that much
[08:40] <alphageek> and what about the headers for the same version?
[08:40] <ikonia> alphageek: it's just a package
[08:41] <nftyw_L> If I'm trying to get grub to dual-boot to a win 98 install, and it's giving me an error 13, what's the most likely thing I failed to check?
[08:41] <ikonia> alphageek: thats the point of a package manager
[08:41] <voldermot> ikonia:isnt dat equivalent to copying xorg.conf failsafe into xorg.conf?
[08:41] <nemera> ikonia: thanks friend
[08:41] <ikonia> nftyw_L: voldermot no
[08:41] <floryn> is there any player for render .swf movies extension? (no firefox)
[08:41] <ubuntu_> okay...
[08:41] <bluenzo> ugh
[08:41] <g4lt-lappy> floryn, many.  flashplayer is the obvious one, but there's others
[08:42] <bluenzo> im grub got deleted after stalling windows... but !grub doesnt work lol
[08:42] <bluenzo> i get error 17
[08:42] <voldermot> ikonia: ok..
[08:42] <ikonia> bluenzo: that meants it's pointing at the wrong partition
[08:42] <zimnyx> ziroday: btw, what number of badsectors have you found?
[08:42] <floryn> g4lt-lappy, ok so i will find flashplayer in synaptic manager than/
[08:42] <alphageek> ikonia: thanks..was a little bit conservative to delete a kernel.But as you said its just a package explains it all
[08:43] <bluenzo> ikonia: so im typing the setup command wrong?
[08:43] <ziroday> zimnyx: I honestly can't remember. I know it was after a failed gparted edit and I just ran fsck /path/to/drive and it fixed it all up
[08:43] <ikonia> bluenzo: yes,
[08:43] <bluenzo> my friend told me to just type setup (hd0)
[08:43] <bluenzo> how do I know which one im supossed to use?
[08:43] <g4lt-lappy> floryn, I think it's in multiverse, but yeah
[08:43] <bluenzo> lemme re-check the site
[08:43] <bluenzo> !grub
[08:43] <g4lt-lappy> (well, the installer)
[08:44] <voldermot> ikonia: it works...thanks..u are the man..:)
[08:44] <ikonia> voldermot: I know this ;) - I'm kdding, no problem
[08:44] <bluenzo> ikonia: on the recover ubuntu pae, it says type "setup (hd0)" tho
[08:45] <voldermot> ikonia: haha..
[08:45] <kataklysm54> ya t-il une chaine francaise?
[08:45] <ikonia> bluenzo: assuming your ubuntu partition is (hd0)
[08:45] <alphageek> is there a way to clone the filesystem.My eventual goal is to make permanent restore points.
[08:45] <ikonia> bluenzo: and it's the root parameter - not the setup parameter you need to change
[08:45] <bluenzo> ikonia: well im not sure, i have a 640GB HDD and 40GB HDD, vista on the 640GB and ubuntu on the 40GB
[08:45] <floryn> g4lt-lappy, i will install swfdc-gnome
[08:45] <ikonia> alphageek: dd takes a block for block copy
[08:45] <bluenzo> how do I find out which is which?
[08:45] <floryn> g4lt-lappy, thank you for the help
[08:46] <kataklysm54> quelqu'un peut til m'aider?
[08:46] <g4lt-lappy> floryn, that's one of the many, yes :)
[08:46] <ikonia> bluenzo: it is most likley root (hd1,0)  and setup (hd0)
[08:46] <voldermot> bluenzo: fdisk /dev/sda or hda ..whichever urs is..
[08:46] <floryn> g4lt-lappy, yes :)
[08:46] <bazhang> !fr | kataklysm54
[08:47] <bluenzo> ikonia: can you run me through it? im on ubunru right now
[08:47] <ikonia> bluenzo: root (hd1,0) setup (hd0)
[08:47] <bluenzo> ok
[08:48] <bluenzo> ikonia: i believe thats what i typed last time
[08:48] <zimnyx> ziroday: thanks for your time
[08:48] <bluenzo> i just did the "find /boot/grub/stage1" and it gave hd1,0
[08:48] <ikonia> bluenzo: how many partitions do you have on your ubuntu drive
[08:49] <bluenzo> one total
[08:49] <ikonia> bluenzo: no swap partition ?
[08:49] <bluenzo> i have two physical drives, one partition each
[08:49] <bluenzo> oh it might be worth saying, one is sata, one is IDE
[08:49] <bluenzo> if that matters
[08:49] <ikonia> nope doesn't matter
[08:49] <bluenzo> ikonia: i dont know what you mean by swap partition
[08:50] <ikonia> bluenzo: I'd double check then, re-try root (hd1,0) and then setup (hd0)
[08:50] <ikonia> bluenzo: make sure you do root firt
[08:50] <ikonia> first
[08:50] <bluenzo> ya im in root
[08:50] <ikonia> I didn't say be in root
[08:50] <ikonia> I said use the root command first
[08:50] <bluenzo> i know i did su
[08:50] <ikonia> once you are in the gub shell
[08:50] <bluenzo> i meant that first :P
[08:50] <ikonia> bluenzo: how did you do, su, ubuntu has no root passwod ?
[08:50] <bluenzo> su then pass, then grub
[08:50] <bluenzo> sudo passwd
[08:51] <ikonia> bluenzo: if you're doing things like that - you should know what you're doing
[08:51] <bluenzo> my friend told me :P
[08:51] <bluenzo> LOL
[08:51] <ikonia> bluenzo: then ask your friend
[08:51] <bluenzo> he doesnt know about that error
[08:51] <bluenzo> i tried...i think he went afk
[08:51] <ikonia> wow - so following his advice may not be the best way to go
[08:51] <bluenzo> lol
[08:51] <g4lt-lappy> !root
[08:52] <ikonia> bluenzo: do the following
[08:52] <bluenzo> ROFL @ that
[08:52] <bluenzo> the matrix
[08:52] <bluenzo> im doing root (hd1,0) right now
[08:52] <ikonia> bluenzo: 1.) "sudo grub"
[08:52] <bluenzo> k ill start over
[08:52] <ikonia> bluenzo: nah, thats fine
[08:52] <ikonia> bluenzo: do root (hd1,0)
[08:52] <ikonia> bluenzo: do you get any errors or warnings
[08:52] <bluenzo> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# grub
[08:52] <bluenzo>  <---im already root right?
[08:53] <bluenzo> no errors, just returned to grub>
[08:53] <ikonia> yes you are
[08:53] <ikonia> bluenzo: ok, now setup (hd0)
[08:53] <bluenzo> k done
[08:53] <bluenzo> no errors
[08:53] <ikonia> bluenzo: quit
[08:53] <bluenzo> 16 sectors are embedded....succeeded etc..
[08:53] <ikonia> bluenzo: sounds good
[08:53] <bluenzo> done
[08:53] <ikonia> bluenzo: reboot
[08:54] <alphageek> is this the right syntax "dd if=fbackup of=/ bs=?"
[08:54] <g4lt-lappy> seriously, with any decent modern operating system, root is rather superfluous. it has to be there as a role and possibly a user, but if you shouldn;t ever log in as root to a modern OS
[08:54] <bluenzo> k...btw i installed xchat-gnome
[08:54] <ikonia> alphageek: no
[08:54] <bluenzo> is there  afster way to ge tback here?
[08:54] <bluenzo> lol
[08:54] <ikonia> bluenzo: one thing at a time
[08:54] <bluenzo> well if it doesnt work
[08:54] <bluenzo> how do i get back, unless this is the fastest way
[08:54] <ikonia> bluenzo: no there isn't
[08:54] <g4lt-lappy> alphageek, that will write over / with the contents of fbackup.  if that's what you want, go for it, it will urt though
[08:54] <bluenzo> k brb
[08:56] <Iowahc> anyone knows about skype development? how far they are?
[08:57] <Xavierg2003> Can anyone give me a reason not to shoot myself in the head right now?
[08:57] <ikonia> Xavierg2003: I can give you a reason to not make silly random comments like that
[08:57] <g4lt-lappy> Xavierg2003, it will be messy?
[08:57] <o0Chris0o> Xavierg2003: yup, we love you
[08:57] <bazhang> !ot | Xavierg2003
[08:57] <ikonia> Xavierg2003: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[08:57] <o0Chris0o> oops
[08:58] <Xavierg2003> ikonia thanks for your help. Chris you don't love me and lappy i am in the bathtub so it would all drain down the drain
[08:58] <g4lt-lappy> ionstorm, you can install skype on ubuntu right now
[08:58] <g4lt-lappy> Iowahc, ^^^^
[08:58] <Kimi> a broser other than mozilla , flock for ubuntu ?????
[08:58] <bazhang> Iowahc, ask on the skype forums
[08:58] <Kimi> *browser
[08:59] <Xavierg2003> thanks for the reasoning anyway
[08:59] <bazhang> !opera | Kimi
[08:59] <ikonia> Kimi: flock for ubuntu ?
[08:59] <Kimi> ikonia,  have flock for ubuntu
[08:59] <ikonia> Kimi: I have no idea what flock is
[08:59] <g4lt-lappy> kimi epiphany ;)
[09:00] <Kimi> bazhang, i dont want opera
[09:00] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  ok i will try ./ is it in synpatic ?
[09:00] <bazhang> Kimi, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:00] <ikonia> Kimi: searach the package manager for web browsers you will see the options, try them see what you like
[09:00] <voldermot> kimi: epiphany
[09:00] <g4lt-lappy> kimi should be
[09:00] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  ok../
[09:01] <ob1> anybody know how to set ubuntu to connect windows network
[09:01] <Iowahc> bazhang, g4lt-lappy: skype Forum doesn't respond ;)
[09:01] <Iowahc> ignoring me ;)
[09:01] <voldermot> ob1: install samba
[09:01] <Kimi> my firefox wont send downloads to gwget
[09:01] <o0Chris0o> !samba | ob1
[09:01] <bazhang> Iowahc, it has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[09:01] <Iowahc> k
[09:01] <g4lt-lappy> by the time i got the round tuit to installl epiphany, my sources.list was a bit....complicated.  don't remember what was actually in universe or multiverse anymore :/
[09:02] <Kimi> when click downloadlinks from firefox.. it wont send to gwget.../
[09:02] <ob1> thanks I will try it out
[09:02] <ikonia> Kimi: firefox downloads using it's onwn system
[09:02] <ikonia> Kimi: as do most browsers
[09:02] <Kimi> ikonia, i want it to send it to gwget
[09:02] <Kimi> is it possible ?
[09:02] <ikonia> Kimi: I don't think so
[09:03] <Kimi> then who ?
[09:03] <ikonia> then who what ?
[09:03] <Iowahc> Kimi: you got a Download with: option when you want to download?
[09:03] <ikonia> Iowahc: do you ? where ?
[09:03] <Kimi> with: ooption ????? what is it ?
[09:03] <Kimi> Iowahc,  ?
[09:03] <ikonia> Iowahc: I thought you get "save to", or "open with"
[09:03] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, right-click, "copy location", paste in gwget
[09:04] <Iowahc> Kimi, ikonia: I got a Save to: Open with: Download with: option
[09:04] <Iowahc> Kimi: what firefox version are you using?
[09:04] <Kimi> but what if its from mediafire site ?
[09:04] <shrini> Hi, I downloaded 9.04 alpha 6 and installed
[09:04] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy, you cant do that in mediafire
[09:04] <shrini> it is too slow even in 2 GB RAM
[09:04] <bazhang> shrini, #ubuntu+1 for that
[09:04] <ubuntu_> didnt work
[09:04] <bluenzo> lol
[09:04] <Kimi> Iowahc, latest firefox.... isnt it 3 ?
[09:04] <shrini> bazhang: thanks
[09:05] <bluenzo> same error
[09:05] <Iowahc> Kimi: in the options, have you activated to download automatically?
[09:05] <g4lt-lappy> Iowahc, that's a dismissable opton.  I typically don't recommend it because it may have been dismissed and undismissing it is nontrivial
[09:05] <Kimi> Iowahc, NO
[09:05] <Kimi> ?
[09:06] <v4vijayakumar1> when kernel 2.6.29. will be available for ubuntu ?
[09:06] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, "uin mediafire"?  you mean it uses a script?  all bets ar off then,you'll never get that pasted into another program
[09:06] <Iowahc> g4lt-lappy, Kimi: Sorry, you are right. this option comes to me with FlashGot
[09:06] <Kimi> uin mediafire = using mediafire..
[09:06] <Kimi> mediafire site wont allow to copy download lnks to manager
[09:06] <bluenzo> who was i talking to before lol
[09:07] <voldermot> bluenzo: ikonia
[09:07] <Kimi> but my gwget is not responding for any downloads
[09:07] <bluenzo> ty
[09:07] <bluenzo> ikonia, you still there?
[09:07] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, well, typoses for "in mediafire", meaning I have no real idea what you meant by that, but if it's a javascript or something like that, all bets are off the table
[09:08] <oDesk> i've updated to ubuntu 8.10 through the update-manager .. Q: where to find the downloaded update files ??
[09:08] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  MY GWGET is not opening **ANY** download links
[09:08] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,   i mean.... its not popping up asking for download
[09:08] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  do you understand ? :(
[09:08] <Iowahc> Kimi: install FlashGot for FF and you got that extra option I meant
[09:09] <Iowahc> Kimi: with it, you can choose any prefered extern DL Manager
[09:09] <bluenzo> ikonia, you there?
[09:09] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, nor will it.  it's an entirely seperate proram, meaning it has to be called by firefox.  a script is overriding your preferences in that regard
[09:09] <Kimi> Iowahc, what do you mean by "GOT"
[09:09] <Iowahc> Kimi http://flashgot.net/
[09:09] <bouma> well that was kind of fun. i used brctl, to create a bridge and add eth0 and wlan0 to br0, then i used ifconfig br0 up, then i echoed 0 > all the members of /proc/sys/net/bridge
[09:10] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  a download manager in xp called IDM will popup autumatcally asking for download (when you click DL links)
[09:10] <joa__> I have a BIOS which is not able to boot from USB and I tried booting with an ISO (there is some online tutorial) but Ubuntu launches only into BuzyBox -- I can mount my USB drive without problems. But how can I start Ubuntu in BuzyBox from that USB drive now?
[09:10] <Iowahc> Kimi: Do you speak German?
[09:10] <Kimi> Iowahc,  NO
[09:11] <Iowahc> Kimi: ok, just a guess ;)
[09:11] <Kimi> Iowahc,  :O ?
[09:11] <Iowahc> Kimi: got the link I posted?
[09:11] <bouma> after doing the above, my wireless device actually aquired a dhcp lease from the internet router attached to eth0, but it couldnt talk, no traffic could be sent or recieved according to iptraf looking at all adapters. and the lappy couldnt use eth0 to see the internet either.
[09:11] <Kimi> got.
[09:11] <Iowahc> k
[09:11] <ikonia> bluenzo: yes, sorry was just away from your desk
[09:11] <ikonia> my desk sorry
[09:11] <oDesk> i've updated to ubuntu 8.10 through the update-manager .. Q: where to find the downloaded update files ??
[09:12] <Kimi> Iowahc, firefox says it might harm computer !!!!!?
[09:12] <Kimi> Iowahc, ok.. i clicked ALLOW :P :D
[09:12] <Kimi> bye
[09:12] <g4lt-lappy> kimi well, IDC is not an ooption here.  your options are 1) figure out a way to get the URL of the download from mediafire's script and paste it to whatever you want, which should be easy enough, or 2) get some browser that won't happily do what you don't want it to do.  personally I just use noscript on firefox, and avoid pllaces that require scripting, but that's just me
[09:13] <birdfly> ok
[09:13] <farciarz84> hi, I need to use a printer which is in my local windows network, I know only IP and the printer name. Data format is raw, tried GUI printer wizard and nothing works:(
[09:13] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  i use noscript too..
[09:13] <Iowahc> Kimi: doesn't harm anything ;)
[09:13] <bluenzo> ikonia, yay your back lol
[09:13] <Kimi> Iowahc i allowed it
[09:13] <raven> hi... i followed the instructions on the bottom (last point) of this site: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/PocketPC to automatize the sync. BUT eveytime i boot now it takes very long and it seems every bus would be tested within three minutes - but why??
[09:13] <bluenzo> ikonia, it didnt work, can you help still?
[09:13] <ikonia> bluenzo: sure
[09:14] <ikonia> bluenzo: ok so y ou get grub error 17 still ?
[09:14] <bluenzo> yes
[09:14] <ikonia> bluenzo: can you please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[09:14] <farciarz84> I need to use a printer which is in my local windows network, I know only IP and the printer name. Data format is raw, tried GUI printer wizard and nothing works:( please help me
[09:15] <Scix> Anyone have any idea why "#ldapusers ALL=NOPASSWD: /bin/mount /sbin/mount.nfs" in /etc/sudoers don't work?
[09:15] <Scix> *# = %
[09:15] <bluenzo> http://pastebin.com/m300b7040
[09:15] <kataklysm54> #ubuntu _fr
[09:15] <voldermot> i have installed samba..but wenvr i connect to a windows network..i am unable to c the windows system
[09:17] <bluenzo> ikonia, did you see it? I didnt type your name, you might have missed it: http://pastebin.com/m300b7040
[09:17] <raven> hi... i followed the instructions on the bottom (last point) of this site: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/PocketPC to automatize the sync. BUT eveytime i boot now it takes very long and it seems every bus would be tested within three minutes - but why??
[09:17] <farciarz84> ubuntu sucks, nobody hepls here
[09:17] <bluenzo> farciarz84, ive had plenty of help
[09:17] <tjanda> Im not chasing and code, just some general ideas
[09:17] <tjanda> Suppose you are making a tic-tac-toe game that's multi-dimensional
[09:17] <tjanda> (no multidimensional drawings etc, just console program for now)
[09:17] <tjanda> and you have to calculate the number of wins each player has got
[09:17] <FloodBot2> tjanda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <tjanda> (the game doesn't end after the first line of 3 is made it just keeps going until
[09:17] <voldermot> i have installed samba..but wenvr i connect to a windows network..i am unable to c the windows system
[09:17] <bluenzo> farciarz84, i got ubuntu like 3 days ago, ive had PLENTY of help, trust me
[09:17] <tjanda> all squares are filled)
[09:18] <voldermot> i have installed samba..but wenvr i connect to a windows network..i am unable to c the windows system..wat do i do?
[09:19] <voldermot> i have installed samba..but wenvr i connect to a windows network..i am unable to c the windows system..wat do i do?
[09:19] <tjanda> samba?
[09:19] <tjanda> voldermot
[09:19] <tjanda> i can help
[09:19] <tjanda> are you trying to connect to vista
[09:19] <tjanda> ?
[09:19] <voldermot> janda:yes
[09:19] <tjanda> if so make sure its on private network
[09:19] <farciarz84> I need to use a printer which is in my local windows network, I know only IP and the printer name. Data format is raw, tried GUI printer wizard and nothing works:( please help me
[09:19] <tjanda> not public
[09:20] <voldermot> yeah..it is
[09:20] <voldermot> and the firewall is also off
[09:20] <tjanda> good
[09:20] <tjanda> whats the local ip address of the vista machine?
[09:20] <Kimi> i installed epiphany  but not showing up in applications
[09:20] <farciarz84> in the add printer gui wizard I cannot see this printer
[09:20] <voldermot> tjanda:i basically wan to share files//
[09:20] <ikonia> bluenzo: looking now
[09:20] <bluenzo> ikonia, k
[09:20] <tjanda> smb://<your ip address>
[09:21] <ikonia> bluenzo: you've actually got 4 disks then
[09:21] <tjanda> have you tried that from nauitilus?
[09:21] <ikonia> bluenzo: not 2 as you said
[09:21] <voldermot> tjanda: yes
[09:21] <bluenzo> i didnt say that , i said they are on two separate disks
[09:21] <bluenzo> sorry if i wasnt clear
[09:21] <arussel> Is it still necessary to add sonypi module manually when using sony vaio ?
[09:21] <tjanda> what about:
[09:21] <ikonia> bluenzo: there are 4 sepereate disks
[09:21] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, applications/internet, should be near the top, as it's early in the alphabet
[09:21] <raven> after following the instructions: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/PocketPC (bottom) booting takes nearly forever - WHY? ideas?
[09:21] <voldermot> i dn c thewindows machine wen i go to  network::
[09:21] <bluenzo> yes sorry,
[09:22] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  thats what i am saying now.. its NOT There
[09:22] <tjanda> smb://<your local ip adress>/your user name
[09:22] <voldermot> howevr the windows machine is able 2 c me
[09:22] <bluenzo> ikonia, one is just data, one is blank, one is ubuntu, one is vista
[09:22] <ikonia> bluenzo: ok - so what I need you to do is mount /dev/sdb1 on your current system for me
[09:22] <bluenzo> type mount /dev/sdb1 ??
[09:22] <ikonia> bluenzo: are you on an ubuntu livecd now ?
[09:22] <tjanda> okay silly question have you turned on file sharing on the vista machine, i have to ask
[09:22] <voldermot> tjanda: i will try...i am not connected 2 any windows machine currently..
[09:22] <bluenzo> yes lol
[09:22] <Kimi> krishna@ubuntu:~$ which epiphany
[09:22] <Kimi> /usr/bin/epiphany
[09:22] <bluenzo> ikonia, yes
[09:22] <ikonia> bluenzo: ok - so "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[09:22] <voldermot> tjanda: yes :)
[09:22] <Kimi> but not showing up in appl > internet > ?
[09:23] <bluenzo> ikaros, done
[09:23] <raven> after following the instructions: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/PocketPC (bottom) booting takes nearly forever - WHY? ideas?
[09:23] <g4lt-lappy> kimi well, you can always launch it from an xterm..
[09:23] <ikonia> bluenzo: ok now cd /mnt/boot/grub
[09:23] <bluenzo> ikaros, no response or errors
[09:23] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  ?
[09:23] <ikonia> bluenzo: then open the file "device.map"
[09:23] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  what is xterm ?
[09:23] <voldermot> tjanda: as i said the windows machine is able to c me...but i am unable 2 c the windows machine :(
[09:23] <sprockets2000> anyone know of a simple movie editor much like windows movie maker for slide shows my wife wants it now that I threw linux on it
[09:23] <moxfalder> hiBuntu !
[09:23] <tjanda> Suppose you are making a tic-tac-toe game that's multi-dimensional
[09:23] <tjanda> and you have to calculate the number of wins each player has got
[09:23] <tjanda> (the game doesn't end after the first line of 3 is made it just keeps going until
[09:23] <tjanda> all squares are filled)
[09:23] <tjanda> 	 x_|___|_o_
[09:23] <FloodBot2> tjanda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:23] <tomcyl> hello，all
[09:23] <tjanda> 	 __|_x_|_o_
[09:23] <bluenzo> ikaros, open it? how exactly, "open" is vague to me lol
[09:24] <ikonia> bluenzo: open it in the text editor of your choice
[09:24] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  ??
[09:24] <tomcyl> can someone help me save PDF files?
[09:24] <bluenzo> ikaros, done
[09:24] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  what is xterm ?
[09:24] <bluenzo> ikaros, OOOH COOL
[09:24] <moxfalder> how to list all application (even command-line) installed in ?
[09:24] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, launch a terminal, type in epiphany
[09:24] <ikonia> bluenzo: can you pastebin that for me please.
[09:24] <bluenzo> ikaros, its only 4 lines
[09:24] <tjanda> Suppose you are making a tic-tac-toe game that's multi-dimensional
[09:24] <tjanda> and you have to calculate the number of wins each player has got
[09:24] <tjanda> (the game doesn't end after the first line of 3 is made it just keeps going until
[09:24] <tjanda> all squares are filled)
[09:24] <tjanda> 	 x_|___|_o_
[09:24] <FloodBot2> tjanda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:24] <tjanda> 	 __|_x_|_o_
[09:24] <ikonia> bluenzo: yes, please pastebin it
[09:25] <g4lt-lappy> xterm is an a really old term for terminal XD
[09:25] <tomcyl> i need to save PDF as TEXT file? (like windows)
[09:25] <natsukao> hello
[09:25] <natsukao>  i am searching an emulator for QL Sinclair
[09:25] <ikonia> !away > RoozbehOnline
[09:25] <bluenzo> http://pastebin.com/m2b406b34
[09:25] <bluenzo> ikaros,
[09:25] <Kimi> is there any software like windows movi maker for ubuntu in synpantic ?
[09:26] <ikonia> bluenzo: it would be helpful if you could get my nickname correct so I get hilights on your commetns
[09:26] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy, typing in epiphany worked ....  but how to add it in app > internet > ?
[09:26] <Kimi> !away
[09:26] <bluenzo> ikonia, sorry they look similar lol
[09:26] <ikonia> bluenzo: do you know which disk in your bios is set to boot
[09:26] <g4lt-lappy> kimi it may just require a restart of X, which can wait
[09:26] <ikonia> bluenzo: no problem, it's an easy mistake to make
[09:26] <bluenzo> ikonia, i have no idea
[09:26] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  ?! what is restart of X ? what is that X ?
[09:27] <ikonia> bluenzo: your config is fine (in my view , root (hd1,0) is fine)
[09:27] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, X is the neat graphicsl interface you're using
[09:27] <ikonia> bluenzo: however I don't think you're booting from (hd0)
[09:27] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  ????! :(
[09:27] <DrunkenPirate> I'm having some trouble with an external usb nic. Ubuntu recognizes it and it can scan for available wireless networks. It cannot join one though. Should I try a windows driver with ndiswrapper?
[09:27] <tomcyl> can anyone tell me how to save PDF as TEXT file? (like windows)
[09:27] <ikonia> bluenzo: so the changes we write to hd0 aren't getting picked up because thats not where we are booting from
[09:27] <ikonia> bluenzo: does that make sense to you ?
[09:27] <Kimi> Is there any software equivalent to windows movi creator for ubuntu ??
[09:27] <timmytheraw> ?
[09:28] <raven> after following the instructions: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/PocketPC (bottom) booting takes nearly forever - WHY? ideas?
[09:28] <moxfalder> how to list all application (even command-line) installed in ?
[09:28] <ikonia> moxfalder: dpkg -l
[09:28] <bluenzo> ikonia, I hit F12 and it gives me a list, i click HARD DRIVE (where to boot from) then it gives a list of drives to select, i doubt that hlpes u tho
[09:28] <bluenzo> ikonia, yes i understand
[09:28] <Kimi> ikonia dpkg -l flows a big list of apps that i have never installed ..... is it a virus or something ?
[09:28] <moxfalder> ikonia: thnx
[09:28] <ikonia> Kimi: no
[09:28] <ikonia> Kimi: don't be silly
[09:29] <ikonia> Kimi: ubuntu installs applications for you
[09:29] <Kimi> ikonia silly ? i have never installed them
[09:29] <Kimi> ikonia oh ! ok
[09:29] <Guest49789> hello i use kubuntu, how can i put a video as a wallpaper like in windows vista?
[09:29] <ikonia> bluenzo: I suggest you hit F12 and try the different disk devices, there are only 4 - but that would prove that one of them has the boot sector we have just fixed written to it
[09:29] <Kimi> Is there any software equivalent to windows movi creator for ubuntu ??
[09:30] <ikonia> Kimi: asking every 15 seconds isn't needed
[09:30] <DrunkenPirate> console command to connect to a wireless network?
[09:30] <bluenzo> ikonia, im slightly confused, what are the possible outcomes of doing that?
[09:30] <Kimi> one more Q : what is similar to run dialog box of xp in ubuntu ?
[09:30] <Kimi> i mean , where is it ?
[09:30] <voldermot> alt +f2
[09:30] <Kimi> ikonia ok.. but that question is not a big for you intelligant guys
[09:30] <voldermot> kimi: alt + f2
[09:30] <Guest49789> hello i use kubuntu, how can i put a video as a wallpaper like in windows vista?
[09:30] <RalphSpencer> I'm trying to copy a file to /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines but it says 'Permission Denied'
[09:30] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, that would be the terminal I had you open earlier
[09:31] <ikonia> bluenzo: you have 4 disks yes ? we are writing a boot sector to one of them (hd0) - I don't think you're booting off hd0, so if you try to boot from each disk you should hit the one disk that is (hd0)
[09:31] <bluenzo> ikonia, i only have two operating systems, it has to be vista that has the boot sector doesnt it? the 640GB one, i installed that last night
[09:31] <DrunkenPirate> RalphSpencer: type sudo before the command
[09:31] <ikonia> bluenzo: no it doesn't have to vista - you can put a boot sector on ANY disk device and boot from it
[09:31] <bluenzo> ikonia, oh i see what you are saying, sorta
[09:31] <RalphSpencer> I'm doing that from the UI, not the terminal
[09:31] <ikonia> bluenzo: we are writing what I am confident is a solid grub configuation to a boot disk - I don't think you are booting form (hd0) in your bios
[09:31] <DrunkenPirate> you need to open a root natilus
[09:31] <RalphSpencer> I would like to know the terminal command.
[09:31] <bluenzo> ikonia, one thing
[09:31] <RalphSpencer> I'm not that geek.
[09:31] <ikonia> bluenzo: a quick test is to boot 4 times and test each disk with the F12 menu
[09:32] <bluenzo> ikonia, when i do try and boot, it says grub stage1.5 and failed 17, doesnt that show its the right hdd?
[09:32] <RalphSpencer> What is natilus?
[09:32] <g4lt-lappy> RalphSpencer, applications->accessories->terminal
[09:32] <Kimi> !natilus
[09:32] <Kimi> !nautilus > Kimi
[09:32] <_frank_> nautilus is a filebrowser
[09:32] <ikonia> bluenzo: no
[09:33] <bluenzo> ikonia, k ill boot and see what happens lol
[09:33] <bluenzo> ikonia, try different ones
[09:33] <Guest49789> hello i use kubuntu, how can i put a video as a wallpaper like in windows vista?
[09:33] <ikonia> bluenzo: it's only 4 boots and is a quick and easy way to test
[09:33] <DrunkenPirate> RalphSpencer: type sudo nautilus in console
[09:33] <ikonia> Guest49789: xsetroot ?
[09:33] <RalphSpencer> Yeah, I'm in terminal..
[09:34] <DrunkenPirate> that should get a sudo nautilus window where you can copy to anywhere
[09:34] <Guest49789> ikonia what u mean?
[09:34] <ikonia> Guest49789: the command xsetroot may help
[09:34] <Guest49789> ikonia thanks
[09:34] <timmytheraw> whats a good command line irc client w/ color?
[09:34] <Roq> irssi
[09:35] <g4lt-lappy> timmytheraw, bitchx
[09:35] <timmytheraw> thanks g4lt-lappy
[09:35] <DrunkenPirate> whats the ndiswrapper gui for buntu?
[09:35] <Kimi> how do i install a theme in .gz ??? i dragged it to theme  dialog box didnt work.... any other way ?
[09:36] <nst1> in my home dir .just 64kB used.But ,it show there is no apace any more.
[09:36] <ikonia> Kimi: compress/tar it ?
[09:36] <ikonia> !themes > Kimi
[09:36] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, you probably have to gunzip it first
[09:36] <Chowder> Kimi, it has to be in .tgz
[09:36] <Guest49789> ikonia in konsole? doesnt happen anything i used with sudo, too
[09:36] <Kimi> i have downloaded it from gnomelookorg site
[09:36] <nst1> which files locate this dir?
[09:36] <ikonia> Guest49789: what command are you using exactly ?
[09:36] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: :)
[09:36] <Kimi> it has .gz alone.... not tar.gz
[09:36] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: one worked ?
[09:37] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: it was 3rd on the list
[09:37] <ikonia> Kimi: uncompress it then with uncompress
[09:37] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: ok - so set your bios to boot from that disk and your golden
[09:37] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: i happened to see that it said "boot from (hd0,0) i think
[09:37] <Kimi> ikonia uncompress it then with uncompress = ?
[09:37] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: I'd ignore that message
[09:37] <Kimi> ikonia i cant understand your sentence
[09:37] <ikonia> Kimi: the command is uncompress or gzip
[09:37] <Kimi> ok
[09:37] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: i didnt know i can select a specific HDD to boot from lol
[09:37] <Guest49789> ikonia xsetroot but whats happen with that
[09:38] <Kimi> ikonia, shall i try renaming it to .tar.gz and drag to themes dialog box ?
[09:38] <ikonia> Guest49789: it's just just xsetroot - you need to use agruments
[09:38] <ikonia> Kimi: no
[09:38] <Kimi> ikonia ..  i did it .... and got installed :P
[09:38] <raven> after following the instructions: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/PocketPC (bottom) booting takes nearly forever - WHY? ideas?
[09:38] <nst1> do me a favor anyone?
[09:38] <Chowder> nst1, just ask
[09:38] <Kimi> any software similar to windows movie maker for ubuntu ..... :( ?
[09:38] <Guest49789> ikonia but whats happen with that? why do i need it?
[09:38] <Kimi> !ask > nstl
[09:39] <nst1> how to release the home dir
[09:39] <Kimi> !gobuntu > Kimi
[09:39] <ikonia> Guest49789: you need to send arguemtns to it
[09:39] <timmytheraw> Kimi: Kino is sorta like windows movie maker
[09:39] <g4lt-lappy> Guest49789, type in "man xsetroot" in a terminal and learn why it was suggested
[09:39] <kkady32> i have problem with takl in ubuntu 8.10 64
[09:39] <kkady32> i have problem with talk in ubuntu 8.10 64
[09:39] <Kimi> timmytheraw, ok
[09:39] <ikonia> Kimi: you just said
[09:39] <ikonia> Kimi: sorry - not you
[09:39] <g4lt-lappy> kkady32, talk?  atleast use ytalk
[09:40] <Kimi> ikonia, the theme got installed :P :P :D
[09:40] <Kimi> ikonia i renamed it and installed
[09:40] <Kimi> :P
[09:40] <ikonia> Kimi: I know, you said that
[09:40] <g4lt-lappy> good god talk is so 1970s
[09:40] <moxfalder> please recomend some COOL bOOks about ubuntu, linux !
[09:40] <ikonia> moxfalder: just read some of the reviews on amazon
[09:40] <Kimi> ikonia ok sorry,, i thought that you didnt see
[09:40] <kkady32> yes, but i use ytalk but is the same problem.not work
[09:40] <Sabatini> sentimento bom - filosofia reggae]
[09:40]  * g4lt-lappy remembers talk on VMS
[09:40] <shally87> anyone know how to do port forward ?
[09:40] <g4lt-lappy> kkady32, ytou have talkd runnig?
[09:41] <ikonia> shally87: most routeres will do it for you - that should be the first port of call, or use iptables on ubuntu
[09:41] <Kimi> empathy wont send outgoing voice but get incoming voice (TO GTALK) why ? :'(
[09:41] <g4lt-lappy> kkady32, actually, what IS the problem?
[09:41] <shally87> ok
[09:41] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy: that is problem,say the talk daemon is not on
[09:41] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy:this stay in inet-utils daemon and this is on
[09:41]  * Kimi is offline... going to play cricket
[09:42] <raven> after following the instructions: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/PocketPC (bottom) booting takes nearly forever - WHY? ideas?
[09:43] <shally87> i need reboot my vm first then i ask again...
[09:44] <adnc> does anyone know how ubuntu calls the screensaver sonar? i would like to change the parameters with which it is executed
[09:44] <Guest49789> ikonia i tried xsetroot -gray and nothin i wan to put a video im newbie here
[09:45] <g4lt-lappy> adnc, go into system->preferences->screensaver, select sonar, and select preferences
[09:45] <was> clan
[09:45] <adnc> g4lt-lappy: thre is no preference section
[09:45] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy: try tu u sistem and see when wotk ytalk because not work
[09:45] <nst1> Kimi:"!ask > nstl" what's the meaning?
[09:45] <danie> hi
[09:45] <nst1> I am sorroy,I am a freshman and don't the IRC rule
[09:45] <g4lt-lappy> adnc top menu item
[09:45] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy: try in u sistem and see when work ytalk because not work
[09:45]  * g4lt-lappy just looked a minute ago
[09:46] <g4lt-lappy> kkady32, I haven't installed talkd this century :/
[09:46] <Bert_2> Hi, since a few days the ubuntu site seems to have another font and a lot of other odd changes which make it hard to read, did I do something wrong or is it a bug or something ?
[09:46] <adnc> g4lt-lappy: maybe i'm opening something different, do you know how that application is called so i could run it from the commandline
[09:46] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy: i will see how work,but not work,egat what century is
[09:47] <g4lt-lappy> yes I know.  no, i won't tell you, because you're supposed to configure it via the gnome menus
[09:47] <adnc> g4lt-lappy: but there is no menu entry for it
[09:47] <g4lt-lappy> kkady32, well, you say that talkd is theoretically up and running?
[09:47] <aapzak> are beta users using this channel too? or is there a seperate beta channel?
[09:48] <presshere> hi, i want to run war craft on my virtual machine using virtualbox but there is a problem with directx, cant find directx, anyone can help pls !?
[09:48] <g4lt-lappy> aapzak, #ubuntu+1
[09:48] <ikonia> aapzak: #ubuntu+1
[09:48] <aapzak> tnx
[09:48] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy: is in inet.conf but still not work,the error mesage is that talk daemon is not on
[09:48] <g4lt-lappy> ikonia, ;P
[09:48] <aapzak> equally fast ey
[09:48] <g4lt-lappy> kkady32, and it's enabled in inetd.conf?
[09:48] <ikonia> presshere: VM's don't have direct hardware access
[09:48] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy:yes
[09:49] <g4lt-lappy> pregier, warcraft (1 qnd2 at least) work fine under wine IIRC
[09:49] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy:i search in ubuntuforums and in google but are peolpe whit the same problem
[09:49] <g4lt-lappy> presshere, ^^^^
[09:49] <presshere> ikonia and what can i do ? it is imposible to run some stuff that requiers directx?
[09:49] <adnc> g4lt-lappy: maybe you are running a different version, here on intrepid gnome-screensaver-preferences does not allow to set parameters for the screensavers
[09:49] <ikonia> presshere: as VM's don't have direct hardware access I don' tsee how you can
[09:50] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy:for this reason i try here to find help
[09:50]  * gol black
[09:50] <ikonia> away > gol
[09:50] <tomcyl> ubuntu always using command sudo to fit things?
[09:51] <ikonia> tomcyl: sudo lets you execute a command as root
[09:51] <g4lt-lappy> kkady32, have you tried the non-inetutils talkd package?
[09:51] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy:yes but still not work
[09:51] <g4lt-lappy> same issue?
[09:51] <Nikty> HEY
[09:52] <Nikty> anybody has ACER laptop?
[09:52] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy:is not so important but im curious when work or not and how
[09:52] <ikonia> Nikty: just explain your problem
[09:52] <g4lt-lappy> kkady32, it's an interestin problem, but alas one I have no good answer for, partly because I haven't used talk in years
[09:52] <tomcyl>  ACER laptop is bad
[09:52] <boscop> Nikty: I have ACER laptop
[09:53] <tyson_> 1 user with 2 passwords and root disabled. Is the possible?
[09:53] <Nikty> ikonia: i use FreeBSD and i need fixed DSDT table. I know, there's kernel module for linux which calls acer_acpi, but it'll never compile on *BSD
[09:53] <kkady32> g4lt-lappy:when u are curious then install,that is under 3 min and see when work or not :))
[09:53] <tyson_> eg. login different than sudo
[09:53] <Nikty> ACPI problems..
[09:53] <ikonia> Nikty: ok - so this is nothing to do with ubuntu then
[09:53] <Nikty> no
[09:53] <Nikty> you can give me dsdt
[09:53] <ikonia> Nikty: please take it the correct support place
[09:53] <g4lt-lappy> tsoono, a single user may not have multiple passwords
[09:54] <g4lt-lappy> tyson_, ^^^^
[09:54] <Oprtz> how can we play IGI2 in ubuntu 8.10 ? thanks
[09:55] <tyson_> because If I say give my sister the password to login, then she can install everything too
[09:55] <g4lt-lappy> Oprtz, first, what is IGI2? :)
[09:55] <ikonia> tyson_: lock down sudo better
[09:55] <g4lt-lappy> tyson_, make a new user
[09:55] <Oprtz> g4lt-lappy: its a computer game, called Project IGI
[09:56] <g4lt-lappy> Oprtz, and is there a linux binary, or is it win32 only?
[09:56] <tyson_> ikonia: how do I make sudo better
[09:56] <Oprtz> g4lt-lappy: i dont know abt this
[09:56] <ikonia> tyson_: you can lock sudo down to only allow certain commands rather than all commands
[09:56] <Oprtz> g4lt-lappy: we it runs great in winxp
[09:57] <dayo> IGI2: I'm Going In 2
[09:57] <g4lt-lappy> Oprtz, sounds like a good thing to know first ;P
[09:57] <dayo> g4lt-lappy: i think it's a game. FPS
[09:57] <Oprtz> dayo: yes it is a game
[09:57] <tyson_> !guest
[09:57] <wispurs> does anyone here know anything about flashing/hacking phones
[09:57] <wispurs> for the love of god
[09:57] <wispurs> please
[09:57] <tyson_> is there a guest account like in xp?
[09:57] <Oprtz> how to check its a linux binary or win32?
[09:58] <g4lt-lappy> dayo, one day, you might wish to learn about the Socratic method of teaching ;P
[09:58] <wispurs> fuck you all
[09:58] <wispurs> \please?
[09:58] <Myrtti> wispurs: this channel is for Ubuntu issues, not for hacking phones
[09:58] <wispurs> lol
[09:58] <dayo> tyson_: just create a new account. by default, new accounts have no sudo rights.
[09:58] <wispurs> yeah, but i figured there are intelligent people here
[09:58] <g4lt-lappy> Oprtz, how do you get it for winxp?
[09:58] <dayo> g4lt-lappy: oops! :-D
[09:58] <wispurs> so they mught have a clue what i am talking about
[09:58] <Myrtti> wispurs: also, mind your language, this is a channel for people of all ages and cultures
[09:58] <wispurs> does anyone know a good chan for me to go?
[09:58] <wispurs> sorry dad
[09:58] <Oprtz> g4lt-lappy: install it from the DVD
[09:58] <wispurs> i love you
[09:58] <wispurs> please help me
[09:58] <tyson_> dayo so I could just call it guest as well and shazamm
[09:59] <Myrtti> wispurs: this isn't the yellow/white pages channel
[09:59] <Myrtti> wispurs: so no
[09:59] <wispurs> LOL
[09:59] <boscop> wispurs: what phone= iPhone?
[09:59] <wispurs> PLEASE
[09:59] <dayo> tyson_: yes
[09:59] <g4lt-lappy> Oprtz, no website or anything like that?
[09:59] <wispurs> help me
[09:59] <wispurs> i wish
[09:59] <wispurs> u740
[09:59] <FloodBot2> wispurs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:59] <wispurs> lol
[09:59] <Myrtti> wispurs: did you have a Ubuntu related question?
[09:59] <Oprtz> g4lt-lappy: i tried to run it win wine but bad grpahics
[09:59] <_DEL> !test
[09:59] <wispurs> yes
[09:59] <dayo> tyson_: sudo adduser guest        or sudo adduser shazamm
[09:59] <Oprtz> g4lt-lappy:  no i buy the dvd
[10:00] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: I set the HDD to boot first, and everything looks fine, but when I select windows vista from grub, it gets an error 13 or 17 (i forgot) and doesnt boot...
[10:00] <Oprtz> google it , igi2
[10:00] <presshere> !iso
[10:00] <g4lt-lappy> Oprtz, in that case, sounds like you hope that wine can run it or install a virtual machine like xen, vmware, etc and install it in a virtualized winxp
[10:00] <dayo> tyson_: then it prompts you to enter the password for the new account
[10:00] <wispurs> can anyone help me ubuntu flash my u740 to cricket thanks
[10:00] <wispurs> ;)
[10:00] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: you'll beed to modify your menu.kst
[10:00] <g4lt-lappy> Oprtz, how about YOU google it.  *I* don't wish to run it ;)
[10:00] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: you'll beed to modify your menu.lst
[10:00] <RizR> hi, upgrade to jaunty but booting with kernel 2.6.28-11 doesnt load x server. get a blank black screen with no keyboard working.
[10:00] <Myrtti> wispurs: I'm getting tired with your attitude
[10:00] <Oprtz> g4lt-lappy:  hehehehhee
[10:00] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: look at the partitions in the device.map and change y our windows partition
[10:00] <wispurs> i dont have an attitude
[10:00] <wispurs> im in a good mood
[10:00] <bazhang> RizR, #ubuntu+1 for that
[10:00] <RizR> using previous kernel from intrepid however boots it fine with jaunty user env.
[10:01] <wispurs> you seem to have one though
[10:01] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: sorry - not your partitoin, change your menu.lst to the correct windows partition
[10:01] <wispurs> what is wrong?
[10:01] <Oprtz> i wish 9.04 support gamers and yahoo messenger tooo
[10:01] <wispurs> that was rude
[10:01] <wispurs> nice customer support
[10:01] <dayo> Oprtz: i thought 9.04 was still in beta
[10:01] <bazhang> wispurs, stop
[10:01] <Myrtti> wispurs: this is not a social channel nor a customer support channel
[10:01] <ikonia> wispurs: this channel is for ubuntu support only - please use that topic
[10:01] <ikonia> dayo: it is
[10:01] <Oprtz> thats the weak point of ubuntu for now
[10:01] <wispurs> k
[10:01] <Myrtti> people here are volunteers
[10:01] <wispurs> sorry
[10:01] <wispurs> i love you
[10:01] <wispurs> bye
[10:01] <FloodBot2> wispurs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:01] <Oprtz> but its great OS so far
[10:02] <dayo> ikonia: aaah
[10:02] <RizR> bazhang, thx
[10:03] <dayo> tyson_: how did the adduser go? did it work?
[10:03] <g4lt-lappy> Oprtz, wll, you may see if someone's tried to remake it via apt-cache search, buit I'd not hold my breath.  and given that the only real effort to port win32 games dies 5-odd years ago (loki), you're reallly looking at wine or vmware
[10:04] <tyson_> dayo: I did it with kuser
[10:04] <Oprtz> g4lt-lappy:  thank u dear for the info
[10:04] <dayo> tyson_: never heard of it, but if it worked, then good for you. :-)
[10:04] <tyson_> dayo but I am afraid it left me out of alot of groups
[10:04] <tyson_> might
[10:04] <tyson_> brb
[10:05] <dayo> tyson_: yes, you would have to add any further groups, manually
[10:05]  * g4lt-lappy didn't know addgrp was so tough nowadays ;P
[10:05] <RizR> how to change the behaviour of post-install configure scripts? I would like to add some extra params to my menu.lst automatically at every kernel/grub update rather than editing it manually
[10:06] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: ok i found what im looking for, can you help me find out which HDD number is it? (its the 640GB one)
[10:06] <g4lt-lappy> rigiven that the post-install scripts come inside the package, there's no way to do so reliably
[10:06] <g4lt-lappy> RizR, ^^^
[10:06] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: look in your /boot/grub/devices.map to work out the mapping
[10:06] <bazhang> !bootoptions
[10:07] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: the windows partition is your /dev/sda disk
[10:07] <RizR> g4lt-lappy, how to disable post-install scripts?
[10:07] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: k lemme see
[10:08] <_DEL> when i compile a proggy, the readme states use ./configure, make, make install.  ./configure goes fine with no errors, but when i make, i get the message that there is no makefile specified, am i doing anything wrong?
[10:08] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: no such file or directory, how do i view it properly?
[10:08] <krejzi> ha
[10:08] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: /boor/grub/device.map - open ita text editor as you did before
[10:08] <krejzi> why?!?!
[10:08] <ikonia> krejzi: why what ?
[10:08] <krejzi> why what?
[10:08] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: it appears to be empty lol
[10:08] <krejzi> no
[10:08] <krejzi> me are here
[10:08] <bazhang> !pl | krejzi
[10:08] <Legate> I have a problem with Update Manager. Since I tried to install python-gtk2-dev (which failed) I can't use it, it does not even start up. When I do anything which involves apt-get (except update), I get a long error message ending with "Processing was halted because there were too many errors. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)". Does anyone know what to do?
[10:09] <krejzi> muahaha
[10:09] <krejzi> where are u?
[10:09] <krejzi> im lookin for u all
[10:09] <krejzi> muah
[10:09] <g4lt-lappy> Legate, sounds like you need to get the resuiduals from the installation of python-gtk2-dev cleared
[10:09] <ikonia> krejzi: this channel is for ubuntu disucssion ONLY
[10:09] <b4chip> hi there
[10:09] <bazhang> krejzi, /join #ubuntu-pl
[10:09] <krejzi> no
[10:09] <Cybix> Hello people. I use ubuntu 8.10. Every once and a while I suddenly have no sound when I, f.e. try to put on some music, this is for sure not a problem with the music player, because it has this problem in every music player, so it must be on alsa level (I assume). As soon as I reboot it works fine again. I would like to know: 1) How can I restart ALSA, so I don't have to reboot all the time. 2) How can I find out what causes this?
[10:09] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: the file is empty
[10:09] <g4lt-lappy> either dpkg --configure it or dpkg -r it
[10:10] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: that file should not be empty - we where looking at it earlier
[10:10] <ikonia> !away > hexacoder|away
[10:10] <Legate> g4lt-lappy: Yeah, I found some tips using Google, but I things like dpkg --configure -a don't work for me.
[10:10] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: i know we were :S
[10:10] <b4chip> *how can I delete a non-empty directory?
[10:10] <shally87> ok
[10:10] <ikonia> b4chip: rm -r
[10:10] <_DEL>  
[10:10] <z1d4n3> Hello.
[10:10] <g4lt-lappy> Legate, the -a is redundant, it means "all that's not done"
[10:10] <shally87> i wanna do port forwarding to my lamp server in vm
[10:10] <shally87> but it did not forward it..
[10:10] <shally87> any suggestion on how to do this?
[10:10] <z1d4n3> I'm having an issue with the installer in the 9.04 beta. It won't pick up any of my HDD's partitions. Where should I go for help?
[10:10] <BiohazardSteven> shally87
[10:10] <ikonia> shally87: what ar eyou using to port forward ?
[10:11] <shally87> directly using my router
[10:11] <ikonia> shally87: then your route needs to be setup correctly to forward to your VM's ip
[10:11] <shally87> i follow this http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DSL-500T/HTTP.htm
[10:11] <ikonia> shally87: that link is nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:11] <ikonia> shally87: this is not an ubuntu support issue
[10:11] <shally87> anywhere i could go and ask?
[10:12] <shally87> suggestion??
[10:12] <ikonia> shally87: the support links for dlink
[10:12] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: what do i do now, am i dead since that file is empty? lol
[10:12] <pawan12341> hi
[10:12] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix:  I can't understand how it's empty
[10:12] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: ls -la /boot/grub/device.map please.
[10:12] <pawan12341> how to download videos from youtube
[10:12] <bluenzo^nix> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 60 2009-03-25 01:04 /boot/grub/device.map
[10:12] <Legate> g4lt-lappy: Both 'dpkg --configure python-gtk2-dev' and dpkg -r python-gtk2-dev' fail, first one with " subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1", second one with "files list file for package `python-gtk2-dev' contains empty filename [...] Processing was halted because there were too many errors."
[10:12] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: it's not empty
[10:13] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: cat /boot/grub/device.map
[10:13] <bluenzo^nix> that worked
[10:13] <bluenzo^nix> LOL ty
[10:13] <bluenzo^nix> i was trying pico
[10:14] <bluenzo^nix> i cna use gparted to find which drive is which too
[10:14] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: no you can't
[10:14] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: for grub all that matters is device.map
[10:14] <M3rlin>  ugh problem with wine can anyone help
[10:14] <bluenzo^nix> really? but from device.map how do i know which drive my vista is on
[10:14] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: you know it's on /dev/sda from earlier
[10:15] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: good memory lol
[10:15] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: well that might be a problem then, the current thing in menu.lst is correct then
[10:15] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: ok - so in that case the data from earlier may have been wrong as we found out with the boot disk
[10:16] <AliveIAM> Greetings.
[10:16] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: mount each disk and look at which one is your windows disk
[10:16] <bluenzo^nix> iko i can tell u from gparted cuz it shows the drive size
[10:16] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: ok, that makes sense
[10:16] <AliveIAM> I have a partition of size about 4gig I want to backup as an image on CD's. The backup must include the whole partition including boot sector.
[10:16] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: hd0,0 is vista
[10:16] <tyson_> g4lt-lappy: it not that is so hard I am setting the box up for someelse and would like to know how the gui is going to respond because they have no idea what cli is
[10:16] <AliveIAM> How do you suggest I do that with Ubuntu.
[10:16] <AliveIAM> :)
[10:17] <ikonia> AliveIAM: dd is the only way
[10:17] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: ok
[10:17] <BiohazardSteven> f
[10:17] <AliveIAM> Then dd it will be.
[10:17] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: ubunto is sdb which is...hd1
[10:17] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: yup, we know this from earlier
[10:17] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: u have REALLY good memory lol
[10:18] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: so whats wrong then? why wont windows boot if its correct in menu.lst
[10:18] <M3rlin> does any1 know why when i start a game using wine, my keyboard doesn't work in the game but i still have the mouse
[10:18] <AliveIAM> ikonia: Can dd only write 700mb at a time for the 4 gig parition ?
[10:18] <AliveIAM> partition
[10:19] <AliveIAM> man dd
[10:19] <AliveIAM> :)
[10:20] <AliveIAM> I need to spread an image made with dd over 5 CD's.
[10:20] <AliveIAM> How ?
[10:20] <AliveIAM> :\
[10:20] <ikonia> AliveIAM: make the iamge first - then split it later
[10:20] <ikonia> AliveIAM: although I don' recommend it
[10:20] <raven> bluetooth service of ubuntu only provides NAP (and it does not work) - how to provide (obex)file access to hdd??
[10:21] <AliveIAM> man split
[10:21] <AliveIAM> :)
[10:21] <AliveIAM> right thanks.
[10:22] <moxfalder> what is the best fro complete system locking by cryptography ?
[10:23] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: menu.lst and device.map and also at bottom i say which is vista and ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/d541e365b
[10:24] <tyson_> dayo I left  the guest account with no password is this really unsafe since I cant use sudo or root?
[10:24] <HammerHead66> ﻿moxfalder:see pm
[10:25] <AliveIAM> Its so weird. My cdwriter works in linux and Win XP. But as soon as I want to make backup disks using the acer utility for it it gives me an error.
[10:25] <AliveIAM> Now I decided to backup the Win XP with linux rather :)
[10:25] <moxfalder> HammerHead66: thnx
[10:25] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: that doesn't look like a valid entry for your windows line
[10:25] <lindux> !list
[10:25] <HammerHead66> ﻿moxfalder: np
[10:25] <akahige> pulseaudio seems to play just fine, but when I try to go into the mixer applet to change the output device, it tells me connection refused. can anybody tell me how to fix this?
[10:25] <tyson_> dayo: are you there
[10:26] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: i didnt modify it, whats wrong?
[10:26] <dayo> tyson_: i'm back
[10:26] <tyson_> dayo I left  the guest account with no password is this really unsafe since I cant use sudo or root?
[10:26] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: your disk layout has changed (hence why your not booting off hd0)
[10:26] <tyson_> -I +it
[10:26] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix:  I don't know what you did to change things
[10:26] <dayo> tyson_: you mean, the login is passwordless? just click to login?
[10:27] <tyson_> yes
[10:27] <dayo> tyson_: it's ok.
[10:27] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: I suspect you're going to have to do a windows fixmbr on (hd0,0) as we overwrote that when we applied grub earlier
[10:27] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: im not sure what you mean, i installed windows 7, then ubuntu, then deleted and formatted and installed vista over windows 7
[10:28] <Athunye> Is there a way to open a terminal from nautilus, like pcmanfm ?
[10:28] <Athunye> Or even rox-filer...
[10:29] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: i know this isnt the proper place to ask but you seem to know about it, i forget, does it ask you to select which HDD to do the fixmbr to?
[10:30] <tyson_> dayo I this machine is a dual boot with xp and just trying to set both sides the same, I am just wondering I was looking at the kuser and the new user was not in audio group but clearly had audio when ai logged in and watched google video
[10:30] <ikonia> bluenzo^nix: I have no idea,
[10:30] <bluenzo^nix> ikonia: k thx
[10:31] <tyson_> dayo: now is that something kuser did or is that just ubuntu doing an assumption that the new user would want to be in those groups
[10:33] <AliveIAM> man split is not very clear, but it seems to be for text files yes ?
[10:33] <dayo> tyson_: i think that means, the new user can't edit any config files of applications in the audio group, but can *use* those applications
[10:33] <AliveIAM> I want to split an Image.
[10:34] <AliveIAM> What can I use to split an image of 4gig into 700mb pieces ?
[10:34] <tyson_> dayo: I your best guess not knowing the app if had entered a password there it likely would have let me use sudo right?
[10:34] <tyson_> -I _in
[10:34] <tyson_> +In
[10:35] <simplexio> AliveIAM: imagemagick could probably handle it
[10:35] <M3rlin> !wine
[10:35] <dayo> tyson_: no, the user needs to be in the sudo group, first
[10:35] <AliveIAM> Uh not a photo image a disk image.
[10:35] <AliveIAM> :)
[10:36] <tyson_> dayo: I could probably just log back in again and type group in terminal hey?
[10:36] <AliveIAM> or can split and cat handle binary files ? and images and zip files etc... ?
[10:37] <AliveIAM> Seems like it can :)
[10:37] <simplexio> AliveIAM: yes it can, but im not sure can you view them before you merge
[10:37] <dayo> tyson_: type:    id -Gn
[10:38] <AliveIAM> I will split it and then cat it and check the checksum before and after.
[10:39] <AliveIAM> What do I use to check the checksum ?
[10:39] <simplexio> AliveIAM: md5sum ?
[10:39] <Math1s> hello
[10:39] <AliveIAM> Yeah lets try that.
[10:39] <AliveIAM> :)
[10:39] <Math1s> I've downloaded Ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:40] <AliveIAM> Seems do check the sum :)
[10:40] <AliveIAM> thanks.
[10:40] <Math1s> and would like to integrate the german language pack directly on that image
[10:40] <Math1s> which files do I need to exchange?
[10:48] <tyson_> dayo: hey do use ubuntu on laptop or know what the program is that makes a synaptics pad not get used while typing
[10:48] <tyson_> it is very annoying
[10:49] <dayo> tyson_: i do use ubuntu on my laptop ............ what's a synaptics pad?
[10:49] <tyson_> the touchpad
[10:50] <jrib> !synaptics | tyson_
[10:50] <jrib> tyson_: I believe that page covers it: you use synclient
[10:50] <fabiounibo> ciao
[10:50] <dayo> tyson_: jrib:  aaaah
[10:50] <fabiounibo> come va raagzzi
[10:50] <_DEL>  when i compile a proggy, the readme states use ./configure, make, make install.  ./configure goes fine with no errors, but when i make, i get the message that there is no makefile specified, am i doing anything wrong?
[10:50] <jrib> or syndaemon, /me forgets
[10:50] <maxagaz> how to install mysql 5.1 on hardy ?
[10:50] <ubuntu_> ikonia, are you leaving anytime soon? LOL
[10:50] <dayo> !it | fabiounibo
[10:50] <jrib> _DEL: what are you compiling?
[10:51] <simplexio> _DEL: is there Makefile file in there
[10:51] <land> is there any way i can determine the computers connected on my unit?
[10:51] <tyson_> jrib: thanks
[10:52] <fabiounibo> how are you
[10:52] <bluenzo> ikonia, im in a bit of a pickle, windows installer messed up my ubuntu installation, now it says "operating system not found" or something
[10:52] <bluenzo> ikonia, when i tried to fixmbr
[10:53] <bluenzo> ikonia, it fixed the wrong one :|
[10:53] <dayo> !grub | bluenzo
[10:53] <_DEL> jrib, kismet newcore.  simplexio, in the flder there is one, but it is blank
[10:53] <ikonia> bluenzo: oh dear, you can try re-applying grub
[10:53] <erUSUL> land: scan the lan with zenmap for example
[10:53] <bluenzo> ikonia, like we did the first time?
[10:53] <jrib> _DEL: isn't kismet in the repositories?
[10:53] <ikonia> bluenzo: yes, but don't use (hd0) for setup
[10:53] <bluenzo> ikonia, same root (the response right?)
[10:53] <land> hei erUSUL
[10:54] <ikonia> bluenzo: correct
[10:54] <land> @USUL: what's zenmap?
[10:54] <erUSUL> land: and interface to nmap a network scanner
[10:54] <erUSUL> !info namp | land
[10:54] <erUSUL> !info nmap | land
[10:55] <_DEL> jrib, yes, but newcore is the newest version of it, or something like that
[10:55] <bluenzo> ikonia, which do i use for setup then?
[10:55] <jrib> !compile > _DEL
[10:55] <ikonia> bluenzo: well - which disk to you boot off ?
[10:55] <hashpipe> ANANIZI SİKERİM HA
[10:55] <ikonia> bluenzo: that's the question
[10:55] <bluenzo> ikonia, wait im confused lol...
[10:55] <land> @erUSUL, where can i get one?
[10:55] <jrib> _DEL: newer doesn't mean better, but see ubottu.  You need to read about dependencies and such
[10:55] <bluenzo> ikonia, i want to boot ubuntu, and then windows as secondary
[10:55] <ikonia> bluenzo: that has no relevance
[10:56] <ikonia> bluenzo: what physical device you use to boot off is the question
[10:56] <erUSUL> !software | land from the same place you get everything else, Use synaptic or Aplications>Add/Remove
[10:56] <bluenzo> ikonia, boot off the 40GB i guess, that ubuntu is on
[10:56] <land> i'll try, tnx erUSUL
[10:56] <erUSUL> !hi
[10:57] <ikonia> bluenzo:  you need to be "certain"
[10:57] <ikonia> bluenzo: as guessing is what broke us before
[10:57] <AliveIAM> bluenzo: su root;fdisk /dev/sda;p
[10:57] <bluenzo> ikonia, i didnt guess before
[10:57] <ikonia> bluenzo: you didn't know before
[10:57] <bluenzo> ikonia, ther were just miscommunicated :P
[10:57] <erUSUL> !root | AliveIAM
[10:57] <ikonia> bluenzo: so we assumed (hd0) which was /dev/sda
[10:57] <erUSUL> !sudo > AliveIAM
[10:57] <g4lt-lappy> AliveIAM, NO.  in Ubuntu, we do NOT su, we use sudo
[10:57] <ikonia> bluenzo: if you want to be smart with me - then sort yourself out
[10:57] <smaxx> Help me I have tv tuner and 2 hard disk with ubuntu the same version (ubuntu 8.10 ) kernel verison the same. dmesg | grep saa is the same but when starting ubuntu from first hdd tuner works when second nop. What's wrong tvtime config defult and the same. What else?
[10:57] <bluenzo> ikonia, ya cuz my "friend" told me to use hd0 lol
[10:57] <fabiounibo> Listen I can not go in ubuntu_it if you could help me
[10:58] <bluenzo> ikonia, sorry :(
[10:58] <ikonia> fabiounibo: why can you not join #ubuntu-it ?
[10:58] <_DEL> ubottu, i have  root password, and a root account
[10:58] <erUSUL> fabiounibo: ask your question n english and we can tryç
[10:58] <bazhang> fabiounibo, /join #ubuntu-it
[10:58] <_DEL> lol
[10:58] <AliveIAM> but I use su anyway.
[10:58] <AliveIAM> hehe
[10:58] <bromic94> how do i backup my passwords and encryption keys?
[10:58] <erUSUL> _DEL: then you are using and unsupported configuration
[10:58] <AliveIAM> Configured my system for that. But ok a use sudo bluenzo
[10:59] <bluenzo> what AliveIAM  ?
[10:59] <Jeremy23> I have an ASUS M2NPV-VM motherboard, and suspend/resume doesn't work on Ubuntu 7.10, 8.04, 8.10, or 9.04. The last Ubuntu version it worked on was 7.04. I have reinstalled every time since. How can I debug the problem?
[10:59] <fabiounibo> I do not find
[10:59] <ikonia> fabiounibo: type "/join #ubuntu-it"
[10:59] <erUSUL> bromic94: what passwords and encryption keys=? ssh? gpg? system ones? web sites firefox?
[10:59] <bromic94> gpg
[10:59] <Jeremy23> I have run the checkbox suspend debug script, but it doesn't even pass the first test, nor does it generate an apport report like it's supposed to.
[10:59] <bromic94> erUSUL: i want to move them to another computer
[10:59] <Jeremy23> Windows can suspend fine, so why is Linux so crap on my system?
[11:00] <ikonia> Jeremy23: don't use it then
[11:00] <bluenzo> ikonia, so root (hd1,0) right? cuz thats the response from find
[11:00] <erUSUL> bromic94: again which ones?
[11:00] <yana> its not working when i use su command
[11:00] <_DEL> erUSUL, i like to make my os fit me, i enabled root account to log into from afar, hd to do some extra wrk for security, but it works well
[11:00] <ikonia> bluenzo: ask someone else - I don't appreciate smart answers when I'm taking time to help
[11:00] <erUSUL> Jeremy23: ask your system assembler?
[11:00] <yana> and after i write password
[11:00] <yana> it
[11:00] <smaxx> so who can help me with tuner on 1st ubuntu it is works on other not
[11:00] <bluenzo> ikonia, ok sorry, bye :(
[11:00] <yana> tells
[11:00] <yana> about problem
[11:00] <ikonia> Jeremy23: out of interest do you have an ATI video card ?
[11:01] <yana> authentication failure
[11:01] <yana> ?
[11:01] <bromic94> erUSUL: gpg ones so i can move to my windows machine and my other ubuntu machine
[11:01] <erUSUL> _DEL: AliveIAM one thing is what you do on your own system (at your own risk) another what you advice here or ask support for
[11:01] <Jeremy23> ikonia: I have a GeForce 7600
[11:01] <Pix1> hey guys i have a Gigabyte Ex58-UD4P motherboard and i cant seem to get the microphone to work across the board & ventrillo to pick it up in wine any suggestions?
[11:01] <fabiounibo> there is some girl who wants to talk to me
[11:01] <ikonia> Jeremy23: ahhh not the problem I was thinking about
[11:01] <Jeremy23> I have tried with the nv, nvidia, and nouveau drivers.
[11:01] <ikonia> fabiounibo: this is an ubuntu support channel ONLY not a chat channel or date channel
[11:01] <AliveIAM> erUSUL, yes. rather use sudo I did say after that...
[11:01] <erUSUL> bromic94: copy the ~/.gnupg/ directory (the keyrings and trustdb)
[11:01] <AliveIAM> For those who live in fear.
[11:01] <ikonia> Jeremy23: nah, there was just a famous problem with specific ATI card/driver and suspend/hibernate
[11:01] <erUSUL> AliveIAM: ok
[11:02] <Jeremy23> I see.
[11:02] <AliveIAM> :)
[11:02] <Jeremy23> There are so many hardware problems with my mobo on Linux.
[11:02] <bromic94> how do i import the private ones though
[11:02] <bromic94> on my other machine
[11:02] <bromic94> i have done that and i have not seen my private keys
[11:02] <Jeremy23> Sound now officially works better on BeOS and Haiku than Linux.
[11:02] <Boohbah> fabiounibo: i doubt it
[11:02] <ikonia> Jeremy23: sounds like your laptop doesn't run on very linux supported hardware
[11:03] <Jeremy23> It's a desktop, not a laptop.
[11:03] <ikonia> Jeremy23: ok - your desktop then
[11:03] <Jeremy23> I have an Eee 901, which is a laptop with 100% Intel hardware and it works fine with suspend/resume.
[11:03] <Jeremy23> I guess it's what I get for not buying Intel.
[11:03] <ikonia> Jeremy23: yes, thats supported hardware
[11:03] <erUSUL> bromic94: you can export the secret key and then import it on the other machine
[11:03] <Jeremy23> It's mostly nForce hardware.
[11:03] <bluenzo> ikonia, im sorry im completly lost without you, im trying just to think right now im not sure what to do
[11:03] <AliveIAM> Suspend gives a problem on most laptops.
[11:04] <dhalsimm> anyone uses copy manager? I'm getting a segmentation error but it seems this project was abandoned.
[11:04] <erUSUL> bromic94: or just replace the keyrings on the other machines with the ones on ubuntu if you do not have any keys on the new machine
[11:05] <dhalsimm> anyone uses copy manager? I'm getting a segmentation error but it seems this project was abandoned.
[11:06] <ikonia> dhalsimm copy manager is not in the ubuntu repos
[11:06] <bluenzo> .
[11:06] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[11:06] <bluenzo> yay
[11:06] <bluenzo> lol
[11:06] <Pix1> I have EX58-UD4P running unbuntu version 8.10 but cant get the microphone work any ideas?
[11:06] <dhalsimm> ikonia: yes I installed from svn trunk
[11:07] <ikonia> dhalsimm: ok - so it's not in the ubuntu repos'
[11:07] <bluenzo> ikonia, can you help me please, can you at least give me tips? which HDD is 'setup' for? my ubuntu drive?
[11:07] <_DEL> what did Floodbot1 do?
[11:07] <ikonia> dhalsimm: you've just built your own version
[11:07] <ikonia> _DEL: don't worry about it
[11:07] <ikonia> dhalsimm: I suggest you contact the old maintainers for support
[11:07] <_DEL> ikonia, oh ok
[11:08] <AliveIAM> I here baboons fighting. They are a real bunch of baboons.
[11:08] <AliveIAM> ...
[11:08] <ikonia> AliveIAM: stop
[11:08] <ikonia> AliveIAM: you've been told the topic of this channel - so stop with the pointles random comments
[11:08] <AliveIAM> hear
[11:08] <binarymutant> when I use svn+ssh it just hangs, what's up with that?
[11:08] <dhalsimm> ikonia: do you know any alternative to copy manager for gnome
[11:08] <ikonia> dhalsimm: not of the top of my head
[11:08] <erUSUL> dhalsimm: is a cilpboard manager ? clipper ¿
[11:09] <AliveIAM> cat make friends here STOP. Only Ubunto strictly.
[11:09] <thewrath1> erUSUL: im back
[11:09] <nolaces> hello peeps - is this for general ubuntu topics? sorry - first time here.....
[11:09] <AliveIAM> can't
[11:09] <thewrath1> my net connect went under and switched to the other one
[11:09] <Myrtti> AliveIAM: offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, thank you
[11:09] <ikonia> nolaces: this is ubuntu support discussion
[11:09] <bluenzo> ikonia, can you help me please?
[11:09] <nolaces> thanks ikonia
[11:09] <dhalsimm> erUSUL: no it's a copy manager which you can pause remove add sort copy jobs
[11:10] <user___> bluenzo: you might ask your question to the general channel
[11:10] <erUSUL> dhalsimm: ok; do not see the use of such a program but anyway. dunno
[11:10] <bluenzo> ikonia, knows my problem, i just made ikonia  mad :( its too complicated for me to explain anyway i have no idea :S
[11:10] <bluenzo> user___,
[11:11] <bluenzo> i have two OS's installed, vista and ubuntu, and i cant get either to load now lol
[11:12] <thewrath1> erUSUL: what happens if my private key does not show up?
[11:12] <thewrath1> erUSUL: in my  new machine
[11:12] <nolaces> @bluenzo - i had the same problem - was corrupted grub loader
[11:12] <user___> bluenzo: i guess you already got sent the grub link? what line exactly from the documentation gives you trouble?
[11:13] <bluenzo> eh...selecting which HDD for "setup"
[11:13] <erUSUL> thewrath1: there is no reason for that to happen if yu do what i said. just tar up the gnupg dir with the -p switch (so it keeps permissions)
[11:13] <bluenzo> its not hd0
[11:13] <erUSUL> thewrath1: maybe you have to change ownership on the new machine
[11:13] <erUSUL> thewrath1: of the dir but it is just a command
[11:13] <bluenzo> at least it wasnt...im not sure anymore...does changing the order of HDDs to boot change hd0 and hd1 etc?
[11:13] <staar2> how stable is the Ubuntu 9.xx beta ?
[11:14] <Math1s> unstable
[11:14] <ikonia> staar2: it's in beta and currently broke
[11:14] <wookienz> hi, i have created a bootstrap ubuntu image for xen. It boots infe and i can connect to it with the console. I have eth0 setup for dhcp - and if i restart networkig i can see the dhcp offer and accept.  Howvere i get a whole bunch of permission denied entries after this happens. ie SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted
[11:14] <ikonia> staar2: discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[11:14] <bluenzo> !grub
[11:14] <thewrath1> erUSUL: changing ownership you talking about  chown?
[11:14] <user___> bluenzo: which url are you reading?
[11:14] <erUSUL> bluenzo: yes it does. grub uses bios so the boot order in bios changes order in grub
[11:14] <bluenzo> first
[11:14] <thewrath1> erUSUL: just back up that into a tar so what settings when i tar it am i supposed to use
[11:14] <erUSUL> thewrath1: yep
[11:14] <ikonia> erUSUL: it won't as he has a device.map hard coding it
[11:15] <erUSUL> thewrath1: tar czpf gnupg.tar.gz ~/.gnupg/
[11:15] <jerto> Hi, how can I resize a partition in terminal mode ?
[11:15] <bluenzo> ugh im so...confused
[11:15] <staar2> but is there date when the next version comes out ?
[11:15] <ikonia> staar2: 9.04
[11:15] <user___> !jaunty > staar2
[11:15] <ikonia> staar2: discussio nis in #ubuntu+1
[11:15] <bazhang> !jaunty > staar2
[11:15] <Andersffs> Hi :)
[11:15] <Andersffs> Can someone help me? :P
[11:16] <ikonia> Andersffs: what's up ?
[11:16] <user___> jerto: try cfdisk
[11:16] <erUSUL> ikonia: well happened to me once installing... but once the system installed it may obbey device.map as you say
[11:16] <jerto> OK I'll have a look at man cfdisk and will come back if I have problems, thanks user___
[11:16] <ikonia> erUSUL: the system is already installed
[11:16] <Andersffs> Can't install anything or upgrade my system. It sais: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:16] <Andersffs> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[11:17] <ikonia> Andersffs: run the command it suggests
[11:17] <erUSUL> ikonia: bluenzo ok you are right. sorry for jumping in
[11:17] <thewrath> erUSUL: the persmissions on the .gnupg folder should be 700
[11:17] <erUSUL> thewrath: yep
[11:17] <ikonia> erUSUL: not at all, it's a valid comment
[11:17] <bluenzo> what erUSUL ?
[11:17] <ikonia> erUSUL: nothing wrong with what you said
[11:17] <erUSUL> the p option intructs tar to respect permission bits
[11:18] <erUSUL> thewrath: ^
[11:18] <bluenzo> i have 4 HDDs one is data, one is vista, one is ubuntu, one is empty
[11:18] <Andersffs> Ikonia: No way, i missed the space between --config and -a! haha. Thank you! =)
[11:18] <Andersffs> ikonia: Thanks again :P
[11:18] <bluenzo> and i messed grub up
[11:19] <palomer> hrmph
[11:20] <bluenzo> its 4AM ive been trying to fix this for...i dunno how long... at least 3 hours
[11:20] <thewrath> im sorry to hear that bluenzo
[11:20] <pompa> hi, can someone tell me if I can customize the characters that comes out pressing Alt Gr+a letter? I need to have the ō, if possible instead of ø
[11:20] <frybye> bluenzo: re the empty HDD - I will happily pay the postage! ??
[11:21] <amgarching> what is the official way to disbale services like "proftpd" without de-installing them. Manual editing of e.g. /etc/default/proftpd ???
[11:21]  * bluenzo signs
[11:23] <frybye> heheh
[11:23] <carsonc> amgarching: chmod -x /etc/init.d/whatever
[11:23] <bluenzo> anyone heard of device.map and how to open it?
[11:23] <_DEL> how do i install libcurses or libncurses? i tried 'sudo apt-get install' and 'sudo aptitude install' but it cannot find them.
[11:23] <bluenzo> this is like my 3rd day on ubuntu... ugh
[11:23] <frybye> bluenzo: you'll get there - stick too it...
[11:23] <ikonia> _DEL: if you search the package manager for curses you'll see the package available to you and the nnames
[11:23] <oCean_> amgarching: use "update-rc.d"
[11:23] <bluenzo> frybye, do u know how to open device.map?
[11:23] <nailora> _DEL: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libcurses but why would you want to install it directly
[11:23] <frybye> bluenzo: sorry pal... partial newbee myself..
[11:24] <amgarching> There is apparently and LSB script for that purpose: "aptitude show insserv", but it is not installed by default, oCean_, carsonc
[11:24] <amgarching> *an LSB
[11:25] <oCean_> amgarching: "update-rc.d" will do the trick
[11:25] <dhalsimm> when will 9.04 release?
[11:26] <bassliner> dhalsimm: next month
[11:26] <bassliner> dhalsimm: as the name says
[11:26] <_DEL> tnx ikonia and nailora, i am compiling kismet newcore and it does not have them
[11:26] <pmitros> I'm looking for a good application that gives me notes or todo list. All I want is to have a list of items that I want to do, an icon on the dock, and when I click on the icon, it shows me the tasks. I'm also looking for a reasonable calendar app. Dock integration would be nice, but not necessary. There are very many out there. Anyone know which ones are good?
[11:26] <carsonc> pmitros: try tasque
[11:26] <dhalsimm> bassliner: I didn't know that :)
[11:26] <thewrath> erUSUL: i can do the same thing when i want to move my keys to windows?
[11:26] <carsonc> pmitros: it also integrates with rememberthemilk.com
[11:27] <jrib> amgarching: you should use sysv-rc-conf or bum
[11:27] <Farell_L4> malang
[11:27] <dhalsimm> pmitros: you can try gTodo in gnome panel
[11:27] <ethanz6174> my firefox always 'Connection Interrupted'  anyone know why?
[11:27] <Farell_L4> andi
[11:27]  * pmitros looks at Tasque
[11:27] <erUSUL> thewrath: sure if you find where gnupg keeps its files in windows i do not see why it should fail
[11:27] <bazhang> !id
[11:27] <thewrath> ok
[11:28] <thewrath> i am going to have to try that at work
[11:28] <bluenzo> ikonia, please
[11:29] <bazhang>  bluenzo dont target one individual, ask the channel
[11:29] <bluenzo> baz, i have been
[11:29] <bazhang> bluenzo, then repost every 20-30 minutes or so.
[11:29] <bluenzo> i need help with grub but im not sure on which drive to "setup" with
[11:30] <client03> sweety
[11:30] <client03> solo
[11:30] <frybye> bye then client03
[11:31] <dr_willis> !grub
[11:31] <dr_willis> Grub is the kind of tool - it pays to read its docs and learn it well
[11:31] <ikonia> dr_willis: yup got to be solid with it
[11:31] <bluenzo> its 4:30AM and im running live-cd and ive been trying to fix this for over 3 hours, i have two OS's installed, i cant access either, this is my 3rd day with ubuntu.... ya... im still trying to figure this out...
[11:31] <ikonia> I suggest you go to bed
[11:32] <user___> +1
[11:32] <ikonia> approach it with a fresh mind and attitude tommorow
[11:32] <bluenzo> to stressed to go to bed...
[11:32] <bluenzo> oh come on ikonia my attitude was barely bad at all
[11:32] <ikonia> do something else to de-stress yourself
[11:32] <bluenzo> ikonia, and you cant let it go
[11:32] <bazhang> bluenzo, read the documents carefully and get some rest. this is not a quick fix deal if you have no idea what you are doing.
[11:32] <dr_willis> You could always install teh grub boot loader to the mbr of every drive on the system. :)
[11:32] <ikonia> bluenzo: your still showing me attitude "you can't let it go"
[11:32] <ikonia> dr_willis: that's what broke it before
[11:33] <bluenzo> ikonia, because how you are acting
[11:33] <ikonia> dr_willis: wise to not do that in this situation
[11:33] <bazhang> bluenzo, and it sounds like you have already gotten some very bad advice re: sudo su before you came here.
[11:33] <dr_willis> shouldent of broke anything.
[11:33] <ikonia> dr_willis: his windows boot sector is all over the place
[11:33] <ikonia> dr_willis: long story
[11:34] <bluenzo> plus
[11:34] <bluenzo> WINBLOWS is a problem too
[11:34] <dr_willis> :) it pays to learn your Grub-Fu
[11:34] <ikonia> it's called "windows"
[11:34] <bluenzo> since its repair doesnt help me
[11:34] <bluenzo> its repair thing doesnt work properly
[11:34] <_DEL> ikonia, i dont dual boot, but can lilo be used instead?
[11:34] <dr_willis> if windows mbr repair features dont fix things.. then theres some serious issues
[11:34] <bluenzo> it wont detect the windows, so i cant fix it
[11:34] <ikonia> _DEL: sure
[11:34] <bluenzo> dr_willis, i cant use fixmbr cuz it cant detect the OS
[11:35] <_DEL> ikonia, aight, kool
[11:35] <moxfalder> 23.04
[11:35] <bluenzo> i have to "load drivers" as it says to do...
[11:35] <ikonia> dr_willis: ass I said long story ;)
[11:35] <ikonia> moxfalder: ?
[11:35] <bluenzo> /join ##Windows
[11:35] <dr_willis> bluenzo:  Hmm..  sounds tome like windows may be totally gone then.. ot its time to hit #windows
[11:35] <bluenzo> erm
[11:35] <bluenzo> no dr_willis
[11:35] <bluenzo> dr_willis, its been like that
[11:35] <bluenzo> dr_willis, even when windows was there it *never* popped up on the list
[11:36] <fat_rat> !enter | bluenzo
[11:36] <bluenzo> ikonia, i barely said anything first time around and i said sorry a few times and meant it, and you still ignored me, like wow :|
[11:36] <moxfalder> ikonia: date of end of world ! ubuntu 9.04 release !
[11:37] <ikonia> moxfalder: we know the release date - why did you just say it for no reason ?
[11:37] <bazhang> bluenzo, please stop
[11:37] <bazhang> bluenzo, I asked you not to target users
[11:37] <moxfalder> ikonia: window don't scrolled and i think i be a first in anser )
[11:38] <bluenzo> bazhang, uhh i thought you meant that in a different way, not to ask specific users a question :|
[11:38] <ikonia> moxfalder: no problem, happens all the time
[11:38] <ikonia> bluenzo: I suggest you go to bed, come back with a fresh set of eyes
[11:39] <bluenzo> ikonia, no thanks
[11:39] <moxfalder> ikonia: yeah )
[11:39] <netbyte> hi
[11:39] <ikonia> netbyte: hello
[11:39] <bluenzo> ill just try what someone else said, put it on all the HDDs
[11:39] <pekalongan> hai
[11:39] <ikonia> bluenzo: thats what broke it last time
[11:40] <ikonia> bluenzo: it overwrote your windows boot loader hence the "no OS" error
[11:40] <ana_Cute> hiiii
[11:40] <bluenzo> ikonia, i was better off last time then I am now, i dont have EITHER now, i had ubuntu last time
[11:40] <ana_Cute> hai aga
[11:40] <tv7497> guys i am setting up DNS server using bind9 and i have a little doubt could some one help me with it
[11:40] <ikonia> bluenzo: ok, enjoy
[11:40] <ikonia> tv7497: please ask
[11:40] <bluenzo> ikonia, you wont help me do the right thing, only help me NOT to the wrong thing, thanks anyway...
[11:41] <ikonia> no problem
[11:41] <bluenzo> selective help in this room..
[11:41] <ikonia> no - I just won't help you with your current attitude
[11:41] <tv7497> ikonia: in this article http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dns-server-setup-using-bind-in-ubuntu.html what should i replace ns1 as ?
[11:41] <ikonia> your tired and not paying attention
[11:41] <bluenzo> ...
[11:41] <ikonia> tv7497: just reading
[11:42] <bazhang> bluenzo, stop
[11:42]  * bluenzo signs
[11:42] <bazhang> bluenzo, I asked twice already
[11:42] <tv7497> bazhang: hello sir
[11:42] <bluenzo> i dont know what you mena by target!!!
[11:42] <fat_rat> lol
[11:42] <bluenzo> my english isnt as good as yours ;\
[11:42] <ikonia> tv7497: ns1 is to be replaced with the name of your dns server
[11:43] <_DEL> bluenzo, just stick with it, you will get past this bump in the road, i once had the message "kernel panic" during boot up after i installed an OS
[11:43] <ikonia> bluenzo: your tired and it's showing in the channel, i fyou get some rest and come back when your better, I'll be happy to finish off
[11:43] <bluenzo> ikonia, promise to help me if i go to sleep?
[11:43] <ikonia> bluenzo: if you come back rested, sure
[11:43] <tv7497> ikonia: ok in zone definition i named it as tvviswa.com and should i use that name here ?
[11:43] <bluenzo> ikonia, ok then, thanks :) good night
[11:43] <ikonia> tv7497: no, thats not the name of your dns server
[11:43] <_DEL> bluenzo, ikonia is right, computers seem to work much better when the user has gotten some rest
[11:43] <simplexio> (last bluenzo
[11:44] <ikonia> tv7497: tahts the name of the one
[11:44] <ikonia> zone
[11:44] <BOE|Zack> Hello, I was wondering how I could safely mount my ntsf-3 drive?
[11:44] <bluenzo> sorry for my...anger tonight everyone...im just so stressed... ugh u guys have no idea how many times ive dealt with this...like in the last week ive installed 2 diff OS's probably 10 times
[11:44]  * bluenzo sighs
[11:44] <bluenzo> good night
[11:45] <tv7497> ikonia: what should be the name of my dns server ? i am little bit  confused
[11:45] <master> hi there
[11:45] <ikonia> tv7497: if you don't know the name of your own dns server - you should not be trying to run a DNS server
[11:45] <ikonia> tv7497: ns1 is a placeholder for the name of the name server that is authoritive (your server) for that zone
[11:46] <nix> hello
[11:46] <bluenzo> uh im not sure if its a bot, but ana_Cute just PMed me outta nowhere asking for asl n stuff... :|
[11:46] <bluenzo> kinda bothersome
[11:46] <Guest37265> i've update-manager -d my system.. WHERE I CAN FIND THE UPGRADE FILES ?
[11:46] <ikonia> Guest37265: calm down
[11:46] <ikonia> Guest37265: no need for caps
[11:47] <Guest37265> Guest37265: ok =)
[11:47] <maslany> join #ubuntu.pl
[11:47] <Guest37265> ikonia: ok
[11:48] <Guest37265> i'm referring to the system upgrade from 8.4 to 8.10
[11:49] <tv7497> ikonia: err sorry i have an apache running and i was fed up with using ip every time so i  thought it would be better if i had a name to my sever i tried DynDNS but i didnt like the extensions given there so i decided to set up DNS server .
[11:49] <oCean_> Guest37265: for hardy -> intrepid upgrade, start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[11:50] <Guest37265> oCean_: i've already upgraded.. but needs to copy the downloaded files into DVD for example
[11:50] <BOE|Zack> Hello, I was wondering how I could safely mount my ntsf-3 drive?
[11:50] <oCean_> Guest37265: See /var/cache/apt (subdir archives i think)
[11:50] <UUB> I just got this error-W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[11:51] <UUB> ?
[11:51] <bazhang> !ppagpg
[11:51] <tv7497> ikonia: from synaptic taskel  i can make out that dns server is already installed ( i must have done it with my lamp installation ) how do i find its name ?
[11:51] <oCean_> BOE|Zack: see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[11:51] <Guest37265> oCean_: aha, but it's could not be an ISO file.. right ?  i mean i can't use the files to make new system installation!
[11:52] <Ka3> j .#ubuntu.pl
[11:52] <imachine> sup,
[11:52] <oCean_> Guest37265: well, you can use your current install to 'clone'
[11:52] <oCean_> !clone | Guest37265
[11:52] <tynar> some help needed with grub. actually  my probem is with opensuse but I wasn't able to get some help. anyway I want to add windows entry to grub, what would be the correct section type?
[11:53] <bazhang> tynar, is there ubuntu in that question somewhere?
[11:53] <BOE|Zack> oCean_, thats for the reply, I'll read into it.
[11:53] <agua> hi
[11:54] <AnAnt> Hello, how can I change the language for a guest session ?
[11:54] <AnAnt> I got a french guest !
[11:54] <tynar> bazhang : it's not an suse related. question is what is the correct section to add windows entry to grub boot loader. I see 'clone selected' 'image section' 'menu section' 'chainloader sec' 'xen sec'. which one of them?
[11:54] <agua> I am a debian user, but may some ubuntu user can help me, I have a macbook under debian lenny with 2.6.29 sid kernel, i have the firmware and module loaded but the webcam doesnt start to work, how can I look for the problem ? thanks
[11:54] <agua> Bus 005 Device 005: ID 05ac:8501 Apple, Inc. Built-in iSight [Micron]
[11:55] <agua> usbcore               124872  8 btusb,uvcvideo,appletouch,usbhid,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[11:55] <bazhang> tynar, did you read the ubuntu grub factoid link?
[11:55] <agua> :)
[11:55] <fosco_> !webcam | agua
[11:55] <boom> hey there - im trying to make a bootable flash disk to run an iso
[11:55] <boom> im using windows
[11:55] <bazhang> boom, unetbootin
[11:55] <tynar> bazhang : I a regular user of suse as well as ubuntu at home, yes I know some tips on grub
[11:55] <agua> ubottu: estoy de los foros hast alas pelotas necesito ayuda 1 a 1 XD
[11:55] <boom> whats that mean
[11:56] <master> i have one of my computers that say that my wired network connection is up and running but it will not goto the web or any other thing that has to the internet it seems that i 'm missing file network  could that be why i can not get on
[11:56] <bazhang> boom, that is app to do it
[11:56] <agua> ubottu: i Know XD
[11:56] <agua> ubottu: dont think i am stupid XD
[11:56] <bazhang> agua, stop that
[11:56] <boom> ok, but my problem is i need to run hard disk utilities before i can run the ubuntu install
[11:56] <agua> bazhang: stop putting me a bot with urls!
[11:56] <agua> i need help, i know how to use google :D
[11:57] <boom> i have a corrupt hard disk, and the utilities will probbaly fix it
[11:57] <bazhang> agua, #debian for debian help
[11:57] <agua> bazhang: is not a debian neither ubuntu issue
[11:57] <agua> is a macbook - linux issue
[11:57] <agua> XD
[11:58] <Guest37265> ubottu: thank you for the info
[11:58] <Guest37265> ubottu: eh.. lol
[11:58] <ishmaela> anyone know why I can't open urls that start with an underscore?
[11:59] <Guest37265> ishmaela: there are urls with underscore ?
[11:59] <dr_willis> I dont recall seeing any
[12:00] <ikonia> underscore is not valid
[12:00] <master> do i need the program called network to get on line
[12:01] <dr_willis> When in doubt.. leave stuff alone..
[12:01] <BOE|Zack> oCean_, would you happen to have a more up to date link. That diskmounter script doesn't exist anymore.
[12:02] <oCean_> BOE|Zack: ow sorry... I know the link has (had?) a good explanation as how to use /etc/fstab
[12:03] <dr_willis> fstab - another  very very good thing to learn all abour
[12:03] <oCean_> BOE|Zack: to mount a disk, you'll need at least an existing mountpoint (the directory where to attach the disk). Then you'll need to know the drive/partition name
[12:03] <master> how do you install a program without the net
[12:03] <BOE|Zack> oCean_, not apposed to trying that just figured that diskmounter would be a safer option, so was just double checking.
[12:03] <seki_> you need net for that
[12:03] <ishmaela> i able to open them on my windows box but not when using ubuntu
[12:04]  * dr_willis would like to see a URL with a underscore in it... for an example
[12:04] <oCean_> BOE|Zack: well, using fstab file will mount the partition at every boot.
[12:05] <ur_|v|aster> master, f you get the source code it can be compiled, but you will need somethng like a SB or sd card to transfer it to the computer without net
[12:05] <oCean_> BOE|Zack: use "sudo fdisk -l" to list all your drives/partitions, then add a line to /etc/fstab file
[12:05] <Ienorand> master: download deb package http://packages.ubuntu.com/ , transfer to ubuntu and run it to install
[12:06] <ur_|v|aster> or that
[12:06] <Pici> !offline | master
[12:06] <BOE|Zack> oCean_, okay thanks.
[12:07] <chancegarcia> join #zftalk
[12:07] <Ienorand> master: If you want to install from CD/DVD see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#CD-ROM/DVD
[12:10] <ishmaela> anyone know why I can't open urls that start with an underscore?
[12:10] <tv7497> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/138902/ i finished with setting up DNS serer with bind sir does this look alright ? its the output of dig
[12:11] <ishmaela> i can do this on my windows box but not on my ubuntu machince
[12:11] <ikonia> tv7497: thats not working
[12:11] <giaco> hello
[12:11] <tv7497> ikonia: any idea what is wrong sir ?
[12:11] <oCean_> ishmaela: do you have an example? URL's normally don't start with underscore
[12:11] <d0s4gw> I have a very quick and arbitrary question - I just installed a new 1TB SATA drive to be used as a secondary drive for hosting media.  Do I want the filesystem to be EXT2 or EXT3?
[12:12] <giaco> could you check if you have this include in your ubuntu? boost/type_traits/make_unsigned.hpp
[12:12] <ikonia> tv7497: you're dns server is not setup and running
[12:12] <ishmaela> oCean_: I have a dev server that starts the url's with an underscore
[12:13] <ishmaela> for internal testing
[12:13] <tv7497> ikonia: but synaptic says its been set up sir just a min i will post you the screen short of the synaptic saying it
[12:13] <sergiumihai> hi, my ubuntu would not return from standby.. ubuntu 8.10
[12:13] <oCean_> ishmaela: like what?
[12:13] <sergiumihai> i need to restart it
[12:13] <jtaji> d0s4gw: I'd use ext3
[12:13] <master> i have no network settings
[12:13] <d0s4gw> jtaji: Thanks
[12:13] <jtaji> d0s4gw: theoretically you could save some space using ext2, as ext3 is ex2 with a journal
[12:14] <Raylz1> the timidity init script fails starting, are there any logs for init skripts?
[12:14] <ikonia> tv7497: it doesn't matter what synaptic says
[12:14] <ishmaela> the thing is they are not accessible outside our environment
[12:14] <ikonia> tv7497: synaptic is not a setup/admin tool for dns servers
[12:14] <d0s4gw> jtaji: but with 1TB, I'd rather reap the benefits of an updated FS standard than save what I would imagine would be less than 256MB.
[12:14] <ishmaela> but for example
[12:14] <jtaji> d0s4gw: agreed
[12:15] <BOE|Zack> oCean_, would this be correct: /dev/sda	/media/hda	ntfs	ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=000 0 0
[12:15] <tv7497> ikonia: http://122.167.72.96 what should i do sir ?
[12:15] <d0s4gw> jtaji: formatting now, thanks.
[12:16] <ishmaela> _123f02.testing.ourdomain.com:7070/index.htm (not the real domain name, just a formating example)
[12:16] <oCean_> BOE|Zack: that seems fine indeed. Change "ntfs" in 3rd field to ntfs-3g (necessary for write access)
[12:16] <ikonia> tv7497: what is that url ?
[12:16] <tv7497> ikonia: screen shot synaptic
[12:16] <ikonia> tv7497: forget synaptic and b.) that url is dead
[12:17] <ikonia> tv7497: synaptic is not a tool for setting up or running a dns server
[12:17] <giaco> could you check if you have this include in your ubuntu? boost/type_traits/make_unsigned.hpp
[12:17] <tv7497> ikonia: how do i do it sir ?
[12:17] <a_ok> in what package can i find mount.cifs?
[12:18] <ishmaela> oCean_:_123f02.testing.ourdomain.com:7070/index.htm (not the real domain name, just a formating example)
[12:18] <jtaji> a_ok: if you type that in a terminal, it should tell you how to install it... but it's smbfs
[12:18] <tv7497> ikonia: http://122.167.83.160 sorry got the ip wrong
[12:18] <ikonia> tv7497: it's not a 2 minutes job, you'll need to do a lot of research
[12:18] <ikonia> tv7497: I just told you synaptic is not a setup tool
[12:19] <ikonia> tv7497: ou also appear to be using jaunty ?
[12:19] <oCean_> ishmaela: ah, I see. I think it is actually allowed for subdomains to start with numbers, hyphen and even underscore
[12:19] <oCean_> ishmaela: what is the error message?
[12:19] <tv7497> ikonia: i am ready sir to spend even a full year on it no its still ibex sir
[12:19] <giaco> could you check if you have this include in your ubuntu? boost/type_traits/make_unsigned.hpp
[12:19] <BlackCoffee> how do i install KDE from synaptic?
[12:19] <BlackCoffee> i mean
[12:19] <BlackCoffee> uninstall
[12:19] <ikonia> tv7497: ok - so research how dns works then
[12:19] <dr_willis> !puregnome
[12:19] <ikonia> tv7497: nad how to run one
[12:19] <ishmaela> oCean_:every browser i try, opera, galleon, firefox returns a dns error
[12:19] <BlackCoffee> thx
[12:19] <dr_willis> no idea if that factoid works.. never tried it
[12:19] <a_ok> jtaji, yeah I already installed that but forgot that the default shell on the default server was tcsh (needs bloody rehash when install fresh stuff)
[12:20] <tv7497> ikonia: ok sir :)
[12:20] <a_ok> jtaji: thanks anyway
[12:20] <oCean_> ishmaela: it just cannot resolve the subdomain. Can you ping the testing.ourdomain.com server? Or even better, can you reach subdomains that do not start with underscore?
[12:20] <ishmaela> oCean_: you think I have to add an entry to my host file?
[12:20] <tv7497> ikonia: thanks for your time sir
[12:21] <|ntegra|> iknownothing :: I'd like to cut off my sda1 from everyone but root :: Can You Please Help Me Do That?
[12:21] <ikonia> |ntegra|: that's a pretty big task
[12:21] <ikonia> |ntegra|: lots of people need or benifit from read access
[12:21] <oCean_> ishmaela: that might be necessary. Test if you can ping the machine. (not the subdomain, because the webserver is 'serving' the subdomain)
[12:22] <ishmaela> oCean_:every other subdomain that does not start with the underscore resolves
[12:22] <ikonia> |ntegra|: if you really want to do it chmod -R 771 but beaware of the results of this
[12:22] <|ntegra|> ikonia: sda1 is where windows resides
[12:22] <ikonia> |ntegra|: oh right
[12:22] <fixxxermet> Hi everyone.  I am trying to mount a windows share.  Mounting it as either smbfs or cifs causes whatever command I run against the mount (ls, cp, etc.) to completely hang.
[12:22] <ikonia> |ntegra|: set the permissions on the mount point then
[12:22] <oCean_> ishmaela: hmm..
[12:22] <|ntegra|> is chmod -R 771 good for that
[12:22] <cemc> I have the cpufreq monitor applet on the panel,
[12:22] <cemc> and when I click on it to change the freq,
[12:22] <dr_willis> You DONT set  permissions on ntfs  mountpoints.. you set them via how you mount the filesystem
[12:23] <cemc> it asks for some password but it won't authenticate me. any ideas?
[12:23] <dr_willis> checjk the ntfs-3g docs/guides for the  permission options
[12:23] <cemc> the password is 100% ok, because sudo is working and everything else is working. just not this one.
[12:23] <|ntegra|> iknownothing :: Oh and how is that? oh.well.then good old dr_willis aye
[12:23] <oCean_> ishmaela: ok, so you may want to try to add the full info to /etc/hosts
[12:24] <flux_> hui
[12:24] <|ntegra|> I'll go and rtfm all night long then
[12:24] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[12:26] <|ntegra|> oh wow
[12:26] <|ntegra|> !usb
[12:27] <|ntegra|> !mount
[12:27] <|ntegra|> !automount
[12:27] <|ntegra|> okey doke
[12:27] <BOE|Zack> oCean_, didn't end up working... is there a log where I can find out why?
[12:27] <_DEL> !test
[12:27] <ishmaela> oCean_: that works, but there are potentially hundreds of sites that have that url format in our testing environment
[12:28] <oCean_> BOE|Zack: what part did not work? The actual mount, or permission problems?
[12:29] <BOE|Zack> Seems the mounting itself...
[12:29] <ishmaela> oCean_: I think I need to talk to our admins, to figure out why those are not resolving
[12:29] <oCean_> ishmaela: yeah, I don't understand.
[12:29] <oCean_> ishmaela: I *think* they should resolve..
[12:29] <BOE|Zack> oCean_, one second I'm looking through the mount -a
[12:29] <BlackCoffee> what if i only want to remove KDE and not all of it's apps?
[12:29] <master> i have mi file called network setting in administration do i need it to get on line
[12:32] <ishmaela> oCean_: and it just seem to be my linux box that is coughing at them, the windows and macs have no problems
[12:32] <master>  i have no file called network setting in administration do i need it to get on line
[12:32] <ishmaela> oCean_; btw thanks
[12:32] <oCean_> ishmaela: that's a clue. There must be something that prevents linux to resolve. Maybe google knows something about that?
[12:32] <master> thank you all for your help
[12:33] <ishmaela> oCean_: it's be hard to formulate a search string that returns anything useful
[12:33] <dr_willis> master  Youre welcome
[12:33] <oCean_> ishmaela: true. Something like "resolving subdomain underscore" maybe
[12:33] <oCean_> ishmaela: comes up with this http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/underscore.html
[12:36] <pawan1234> hi
[12:36] <pawan1234> how to install ffmpeg
[12:36] <BOE|Zack> oCean_, I got it to work. The problem was that it needed to be /dev/sda1 rather then /dev/sda
[12:36] <jatt> how do I know with which option was my root filesystem mounted?
[12:36] <ishmaela> oCean_:thks again
[12:37] <BOE|Zack> oCean_, Thanks for the help. <:
[12:37] <oCean_> BOE|Zack: ah, ok!
[12:37] <dr_willis> pawan1234:  its in the repos.. or use the medibuntu repos to get it.
[12:37] <dr_willis> !info ffmpeg
[12:37] <jatt> or options? I want to check if data=ordered was used to mount it (ext3).
[12:37] <bo1> hello ubunturs
[12:37] <pawan1234> command
[12:37] <p-f> How can I make the state of /sys/class/leds/*/trigger permanent? I always have to echo 'none' to them after I reboot/restore from suspend-to-ram because it keeps reverting to its completely pointless blinking-on-every-single-packet-I-receive state.
[12:38] <oCean_> pawan1234: "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg"
[12:38] <dr_willis> pawan1234:  you may want to learn to use teh ubuntu package manager system
[12:38] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[12:38] <oCean_> jatt: just use the command "mount" -- it'll show you mounted filesystems including the options
[12:38] <jatt> oCean_:  great. thanks.
[12:40] <a_ok> exit
[12:41] <cetanhota> What the channel for 9.04
[12:43] <bo1> i need to connect to an XP from ubuntu
[12:43] <bo1> remote desktop
[12:43] <bo1> anyone can help?
[12:44] <shankar> hi all
[12:44] <oCean_> bo1: in Applications > Internet menu there is Remote Desktop Viewer and Term.Server client
[12:44] <totorious> \join #ubuntu-fr
[12:44] <shankar> i have problem with my Dell Dimension for Audio
[12:45] <BOE|Zack> I've got another minor problem, I have a dark theme, however I can't get the text boxes in Firefox to go to a white readable text, and I've already edited userContent.css
[12:45] <ageryweryeyey> hi
[12:46] <ageryweryeyey> how do i get my hp all in one's scanner to work on ubuntu?
[12:46] <tyson__> what are the keys at the top of laptop called - quick launch or  hot keys, because when I try to search for info about them I get very mixed results, I think maybe that keyboard shortcuts are synonymous with hotkeys
[12:46] <ageryweryeyey> i tried the xsane image scanner thingy
[12:46] <fixxxermet> I am trying to mount a windows share.  Mounting it as either smbfs or cifs causes whatever command I run against the mount (ls, cp, etc.) to completely hang.  Any tips on getting a mounted windows share to work?
[12:47] <ageryweryeyey> it says no devices where detected or something
[12:47] <quizme> hi
[12:47] <quizme> what is "squeeze" ?  http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/
[12:48] <tyson__> I have three at the top that would be mail, web browser and one that turns the fans on quiet or loud
[12:48] <gabriel_> Good morning everyone
[12:48] <oCean_> ageryweryeyey: is it USB device?
[12:48] <ageryweryeyey> anyone?
[12:48] <tyson__> !quicklaunch
[12:48] <tyson__> !hotkeys
[12:48] <bazhang> !info squeeze > quizme
[12:49] <ageryweryeyey> HELP
[12:49] <gabriel_> I have an AMD Athlon X2 3800+ with 2 GB DDR2 RAM, and I have ubuntu 8.10 64bits installed, im going to reinstall it again because of some problems, I would like to know if the 32 bits version is better than the 64 bits version
[12:50] <oCean_> ageryweryeyey: I already asked - is it an USB device? Second: maybe you need an additional driver. Third: give details (like what device is it, what have you already tried?)
[12:50] <ageryweryeyey> anybody know how to do this?
[12:50] <Pici> gabriel_: Besides the architecture distinction they are nearly exactly the same.  You may have some issues with proprietary software on the 64 bit edition.
[12:51] <kitche> gabriel_: some things work on 32bits that don't work on 64bits but with 2gigs odf ram I'd go with 32bit anyways
[12:51] <ageryweryeyey> it is a matter of life and death
[12:51] <ageryweryeyey> PLZ HELP
[12:51] <oCean_> ageryweryeyey: do you have me on your ignore list?
[12:51] <ageryweryeyey> oooh
[12:51] <oCean_> ageryweryeyey: see my previous questions
[12:51] <bazhang> ageryweryeyey, dont keep saying help
[12:51] <ageryweryeyey> you said something
[12:51] <gabriel_> Thanks for your answers
[12:51] <ageryweryeyey> i diddent notice
[12:51] <ageryweryeyey> sorry
[12:51] <ageryweryeyey> yes
[12:52] <ageryweryeyey> it is connected by usb
[12:52] <oceanix> I have a Dell Inspiron 5000e; Intel Pentium 4 1 GB. I'm using a CD to install, but after the orange bar fills up beneath the Ubuntu logo and text, My screen is 'split'. There are portions of the screen I can't see. It's like the left part of the screen is on my left side of my screen, the far right is next to the left side, then a thin sliver...
[12:52] <oceanix> ...of the left side, and then the far right takes up the rest of the space on my monitor
[12:53] <ageryweryeyey> it there is system > administration > printing
[12:53] <oceanix> This was during an installation attempt.
[12:53] <ageryweryeyey> but the z sane thingy wont detect it
[12:54] <ma> *: Trying to install Jaunty Beta, I cannot download three of the python2.6 packages my system needs - apparently there are issues with file permissions on the master server. How do I contact the archive masters?
[12:54] <oCean_> !jaunty | ma
[12:55] <ageryweryeyey> x sane says no devices available
[12:55] <gabriel_> I will wait until the final release of Ubuntu is out, the beta  its very buggy
[12:55] <ageryweryeyey> what do i do?
[12:56] <romuald> Hi everyone, I've got trouble installing a ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386 on a desktop dell, can someone help 1 min?
[12:56] <oceanix> Can anyone help me?
[12:56] <ageryweryeyey> now i iz wishing i was using windows
[12:57] <oCean_> romuald: just state your question/issues (try to keep on one line) - If anyone knows the answer, they'll most likely reply
[12:57] <Kimi> ubuntu
[12:58] <gabriel_> romuald> what is the problem exactly?
[12:58] <Kimi> you call ubuntu as open source .. right >?  then tell me .. is there any way to add my name to the "ubuntu" that comes when computer starts ,,,, ?
[12:58] <romuald> I burnt ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso on a DVD, boot on it, choose install, see the loading, see the ubuntu desktop and I've a mouse pointer as a cross, nothing happen after that
[12:58] <Kimi> i know my question is funny
[12:59] <romuald> I meant ubuntu desktop =  the brown wallpaper
[12:59] <hemanth> is there auto recompilation of kernel , i need it to be 2.4.28 now i  m in 2.6.X
[12:59] <oceanix> I have a Dell Inspiron 5000e; Intel Pentium 4 1 GB. I'm using a CD to install, but after the orange bar fills up beneath the Ubuntu logo and text, My screen is 'split'. There are portions of the screen I can't see. It's like the left part of the screen is on the left side of my monitor, the far right is next to the left side, then a thin sliver...
[12:59] <oceanix> ...of the left side, and then the far right takes up the rest of the space on my monitor
[12:59] <raven> hi - when i activate NAT-Mode in bluetooth-configuration my ubuntu-pc is cut from network - Any ideas??
[13:00] <oceanix> I can actually have the mouse show up in two places at once. This is during the installation after the orange bar fills up below the Ubuntu logo/text
[13:00] <tyson__> when using keytouch how does one find the closest match to their laptop?
[13:01] <FernandoF> hello
[13:01] <KaptenRodSkagg> anyone having problem with openoffice and templates?  when i try to browse templates the OO stops working...
[13:01] <gabriel_> romuald> when you boot Ubuntu from the DVD, does it work well?
[13:02] <adante> hi folks i am using these sources http://www.jotlab.com/2009/01/24/iinet-ubuntu-intrepid-sources-list/ -- but should i replace the security entries at the end with the originals?
[13:02] <FernandoF> After making a clean of empty files i got error message of "session less than 10 seconds" and it seems to be a problem at /etc/gdm/Xsession"  anyone can help?
[13:02] <romuald> it seems yes, I see the menu (I choose install), I see the loading until the brown wallpaper, the computer is a desktop dell precision T3400 (3 months old), can it be because I burn the image on a DVD instead of a CD?
[13:03] <ketilwaa> Hi there! How do I change the settings for the crash manager? I checked to not be notified by some crashing apps, but need the response anyhow. This is on Jaunty, but I'm assuming it's the same
[13:03] <raven> hi - when i activate NAT-Mode in bluetooth-configuration my ubuntu-pc is cut from network - Any ideas??
[13:04] <Audiofreq> hello
[13:05] <gabriel_> Romuald>try burning the ISO on a CD, maybe the iso image wasnt burnt right
[13:05] <heatmzzr> I try to get into network at work and it says "failed to retrieve share list from server" how do I fix that..
[13:06] <romuald> ok, thanks for your help gabriel
[13:06] <gabriel_> your welcome
[13:06] <raven> heatmzzr sounds like a network-storage?
[13:06] <cetanhota> whats the irc channel for version 9.04?
[13:06] <mtholdenss> hey, i got the jaunty beta 64 bit on a mac, and can't get desktop effects to work
[13:06] <mrwes> !jaunty
[13:06] <rickard> How do I show my desktops on a cube? is it a built in feature?
[13:07] <baldurpet> Iceland
[13:07] <gabriel_> romuald> check the ISO image size, it should be 698.8 MB
[13:08] <raven> hi - when i activate NAT-Mode in bluetooth-configuration my ubuntu-pc is cut from network - Any ideas??
[13:09] <acidark> hello
[13:09] <romuald> I've got SIZE: 698 MB (732,766,208 bytes)
[13:09] <mtholdenss> does compiz have problems on 64 bit systems?
[13:10] <bo1> question: when i download a package from package manager, how do i run it? i mean where do i find that program?
[13:11] <gabriel_> romuald> the image size is correct
[13:11]  * newtoubuntu test
[13:11] <kitche> BOE|Zack: it's either in the mneu or you need to type the command in the terminal
[13:11] <kitche> newtoubuntu: it's either in the mneu or you need to type the command in the terminal
[13:12] <newtoubuntu> but would i type in the command for example?
[13:12] <kitche> newtoubuntu: please don't change your name if you ask a question makes it hard to anwser you
[13:12] <kitche> newtoubuntu: the program name of course
[13:12] <rickard> How do I show my desktops on a cube? is it a built in feature?
[13:13] <newtoubuntu> so if the program name is TEST001 what would i type?
[13:13] <kitche> newtoubuntu: whatever the command for the program is since the command can be different then the program name but most of the time it's not
[13:14] <Saizan> hi, why there's no alsaconf in alsa-utils anymore? what's the alternative?
[13:14] <romuald> I dont have CDs here right now, if the problem is burning the image on a DVD, is there any way to install it in another way? maybe copying the content of the iso on a USB HD and boot on it?
[13:14] <ketilwaa> newtoubuntu: Just a heads up: There's is a difference between upper and lower case letters in GNU/Linux. Just so you know
[13:15] <newtoubuntu> so how would i know the correct command for a certain program?
[13:15] <gabriel_> romuald> you can boot from an USB pen drive
[13:15] <romuald> with the iso on it? or the content of the iso?
[13:16] <ketilwaa> newtoubuntu: The way I usually do that, if I don't know is: Look in Synaptic for the files being installed by a certain package. It's usually one of the files starting with /usr/bin
[13:16] <ketilwaa> newtoubuntu: But usually, it's the same as the program name
[13:17] <zombie-robot_> i have a LAMP server running with phpBB3-- it works locally how do i get it to show up remotely
[13:17] <zombie-robot_> ?
[13:17] <as> romuald, u can use a proram called unetbootin to create a bootable usbstick or drive
[13:17] <newtoubuntu> so i woulod go to the terminal and type sudo ...?
[13:17] <newtoubuntu> i am really REALLY new to this :(
[13:17] <romuald> great, thanks a lot :)
[13:18] <ketilwaa> newtoubuntu: You only type sudo if the program needs to run with super user priviliges. So usually, no
[13:18] <mtholdenss> getting no where here, geeze where are the mac users that were on last night
[13:19] <raven> hi - when i activate NAT-Mode in BLUETOOTH-configuration my ubuntu-pc is cut from network - Any ideas??
[13:19] <chilli0> hi all
[13:19] <jrib> mtholdenss: jaunty help is in #ubuntu+1
[13:19] <domas> hi! how does one reset root password on intrepid? :)
[13:19] <jrib> !root | domas
[13:19] <sipior> domas: it's not really set to begin with :-)
[13:19] <domas> well, I still stand for my question
[13:19] <gabriel_> romuald> go to this website for instructions on how to install Ubuntu from a Pen Drive: http://www.sizlopedia.com/2008/10/31/install-ubuntu-810-usb-flash-drive/
[13:20] <domas> I guess I need to elaborate
[13:20] <rickard> How do I show my desktops on a cube? is it a built in feature?
[13:20] <domas> sipior: that is the problem, ssh is not up, and I can't log in with keys :)
[13:20] <chilli0> when i updated for some reason my nivida graphics drivers went fubar i was using the ones of the nivida site because the ones that ubuntu restricted have didnt work and failed me.
[13:20] <domas> How does one reset/set root password on intrepid? :)
[13:20] <chilli0> and now i cant install the driver again
[13:20] <mrwes> sudo passwd root
[13:20] <chilli0> i get kernal erroes
[13:20] <Pici> !noroot | mrwes domas
[13:21] <domas> mrwes: got to get to a shell for that
[13:21] <mrwes> Pici, I'm aware of that
[13:21] <ketilwaa> rickard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[13:21] <sipior> domas: if you're going to set it, you'd be wise to disallow root login via ssh once you're done.
[13:21] <Pici> mrwes: Then you should have mentioned that we do not support it.
[13:21] <domas> sipior: I know what is wise and what is not :) how do I set root password? :)
[13:21] <mrwes> Pici, The bot took care of that :)
[13:21] <kitche> domas: we told you 5 times already
[13:21] <sipior> domas: sudo passwd, as was mentioned previously
[13:21] <romuald> I've got a portable USB Lacie, I believe it will be fine, thanks again
[13:22] <domas> I have only grub shell
[13:22] <mrwes> Domas: if you don't know where to type that, maybe you shouldn't even be setting it, aye?
[13:22] <sipior> mrwes: i was just going to mention that ;-)
[13:22] <domas> 'sudo passwd' doesn't work in grub shell. oh, by the way, I'm not a newbie, tried 'single' 'init=S' and other ways :)
[13:23] <kitche> domas: well sounds like you are since you keep asking the same question over and over and we tell you how to do irt
[13:23] <sipior> domas: if you have access to the machine, why not simply use the account you already have?
[13:23] <domas> kitche: I just need to reset the root password, cause I cannot log into the box :)
[13:23] <domas> sipior: because I just kickstarted install on it, and after do-release-upgrade ssh does not come up
[13:23] <mrwes> domas: is it YOUR box?
[13:23] <magnetron> zombie-robot_→ you need to set apache to "bind" to your external interface. this is an apache config issue.
[13:24] <domas> mrwes: technically no, it is a loaner from a vendor, that has been deployed in datacenter of organization I volunteer my work to.
[13:24] <bove2> Is there a table somewhere of feature comparisson standard vs. server edition 8.10?
[13:24] <kitche> domas: well ubuntu does not even have sshd installed by default unless you added it to the kickstart
[13:24] <mrwes> hrmm
[13:24] <magnetron> domas→ do you have physical access?
[13:24] <domas> kitche: it had sshd before do-release-upgrade
[13:24] <domas> magnetron: no, just ILOM :)
[13:24] <sipior> domas: booting into single user mode will allow you to sort that out. or boot from a live cd and adjust the shadow password file as needed.
[13:24] <mrwes> domas: well if they wanted you in there, wouldn't they have gave you the passwd ?
[13:24] <domas> mrwes: well, I installed that box half an hour ago :)
[13:25] <kitche> yes
[13:25] <kitche> bah ...
[13:25] <domas> and it has my ssh keys installed in it :)
[13:25] <mrwes> shakes head
[13:25] <domas> all I need is just a magic grub parameter that would give me shell prompt without asking for password :)
[13:25] <as> domas, just boot of any live cd, mount your partitions/chroot into them and passwd
[13:26] <domas> as: would be much easier with physical access, and too difficult to set up netboot for that now, easier to reinstall :)
[13:26] <domas> or wait, maybe installer can allow me to reset it :)
[13:27] <as> erm
[13:27] <incorrect> is there a tool to configure my desktop so i can see the 'smb' network?
[13:27] <as> doesn't the recovery entry in ubuntu drop you to a root shellwitout a pw
[13:27] <as> ?
[13:27] <andi_S> hi i am new to ubuntu and i installed skype using medibuntu... but when i try to make a call it says "problem with audio capture". i have tried the troubleshooting tips for this problem mentioned here<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype> but it didn't work. please help
[13:27] <kitche> domas: I m glad your not admining any of my machines really
[13:27] <SPF> domas: boot from livecd and chroot to your hdd to change password
[13:28] <domas> kitche: I'm glad too!
[13:28] <as> domas, doesn't the recovery entry in grub drop you to a root shellwitout a pw?
[13:28] <domas> SPF: hehe, ages ago grub/lilo parameters were sufficient
[13:28] <as> at least it used to
[13:28] <domas> as: nope, not anymore
[13:28] <domas> as: would I be here if that would be the case?
[13:28] <elementz> i have a huge problem. i cannot login as regular user to my box anymore, after changing the standard printer under the cups menu. after that, i could not connect to localhost anymore, and now that user can't login anymore. i am now logged in as root on that machine via recovery
[13:28] <kitche> as: only if root does not have a password
[13:28] <elementz> now, how can i fix this?
[13:29] <as> domas, just because its easy doesn't mean you found it :P
[13:29] <as> ok, i stand corrected
[13:29] <elementz> this is a disaster right now, since i have a deadline due, and need that box
[13:29] <domas> as: *shrug*, I have 15 years of linux experience :) I came here to ask a very simple question
[13:29] <domas> as: that is distribution-specific
[13:29] <sipior> elementz: you can set the user password again with "passwd <username>"
[13:29] <domas> all I got was "you suck as sysadmin". dudes, I've been running wikipedia for past five years or so :)
[13:30] <as> domas, i know the feeling...
[13:30] <Orfeous> got some problems getting ushare work with my xbox 360! dont know what i have done wrong.
[13:30] <Orfeous> my computer just doesnt show on my xbox 360
[13:30] <elementz> sipior: when running passwd <username> i get a segmentation fault!
[13:30] <as> i'd try adding some sort of iso to grub and boot that..
[13:30] <as> should be possible..
[13:30] <domas> as: easier to reinstall :)
[13:30] <as> true :)
[13:31] <kitche> domas: it is if you don't even know how to break into the box, which a sysadmin should know how to do really
[13:31] <kdubois1> so my entire python install seems to be broken. every python thing i try to install says that it needs py_support, but when i try to install python-support, it says it needs py_support to install it. can anyone help?
[13:31] <sipior> elementz: interesting. do the password and shadow password files exist? (/etc/password and /etc/shadow)
[13:31] <elementz> sipior: yes, they do
[13:32] <as> kitche: i think he doesn't have physical access to the box
[13:32] <as> which makes it a tad harder
[13:32] <domas> I have just ILOM/serial console access
[13:32] <newtoubuntu> a qucik one: do general users recommedn upgrading to ubuntu from 8.4 to 8.10?
[13:32] <domas> once upon a time one could just say init=/bin/sh and get over it :)
[13:32] <raven> hi - when i activate NAT-Mode in BLUETOOTH-configuration my ubuntu-pc is cut from network - Any ideas??
[13:33] <Pici> kdubois1: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:33] <as> i think that is gone due to upstart
[13:33] <_Whipper> newtoubuntu: hmm.. why fix something that isnt broke?
[13:33] <domas> kitche: on the other hand, all next new ubuntu kernels will have a fix for bug I found
[13:33] <domas> :)
[13:33] <domas> security bug, even
[13:33] <sipior> elementz: you can simply delete the password portion of the user entry in /etc/shadow (that's the entry immediately following the username), allowing the user to log in without a password. although it sounds like your system has more profound problems, i'm afraid...
[13:34] <khear> which file in .mozilla contains the latest firefox bookmarks? bookmarks.html seems to only contain the defaults
[13:34] <as> khear, it's stored in a databse since v3
[13:34] <mrwes> khear, you can export them via firefox and import them
[13:34] <as> khear, places.sqlite i _think_
[13:35] <elementz> sipior: that won't be a real option i guess. there must be someway to fix the whole system, right?
[13:35] <mrwes> khear, Bookmarks | Organize | Import/Export
[13:35] <khear> i only have a backup of the old .mozilla i used, so do i need to fire up firefox temporarily using it in order to export? or can i just copy a file?
[13:35] <phrac> !wz
[13:36] <ageryweryeyey> hi
[13:36] <ageryweryeyey> whats my "root/superuser password"?
[13:36] <sipior> elementz: well, it's difficult to say without knowing more about what the underlying problem is. removing the password entry should allow your user to log in at least, whereupon they can set the password again.
[13:36] <sipior> that's a popular topic today...
[13:37] <ageryweryeyey> what is it?
[13:37] <genii> ageryweryeyey: There isn't one
[13:37] <sipior> ageryweryeyey: by default, the root password is not set
[13:37] <prince_jammys> ageryweryeyey: it's disabled by default. use sudo
[13:37] <mrwes> rutrow
[13:37] <ageryweryeyey> ok
[13:37] <_DEL> ageryweryeyey, it is your password, when you use sudo, it give you root privilages
[13:37] <as> khear, just tell firefox to user your old profile..
[13:38] <h00k> ageryweryeyey, to run things as root, run them with 'sudo' beforehand
[13:38] <Majora> Hello. I need some help.
[13:38] <as> khear, launch firefox -p and choose your profile
[13:39] <ageryweryeyey> i am installing something that is asking for my root slash superwhever password
[13:39] <ageryweryeyey> if i just not type anything and press enter
[13:39] <kitche> !ask | Majora
[13:39] <khear> as: yeah, i want to start with a "clean" profile though, other than the bookmarks. so i guess i have to use the old one temporarily just to export.
[13:39] <raven> my bluetooth NAT does not work correct - any experience with that?
[13:39] <ageryweryeyey> it says password incorrect
[13:39] <khear> as: thanks :)
[13:39] <h00k> ageryweryeyey, enter your password that you created for your user
[13:39] <as> use the old profile, export your bookmarks and reimport them ;-)
[13:39] <ageryweryeyey> ok
[13:39] <ageryweryeyey> will try dat
[13:40] <prince_jammys> ageryweryeyey: what's asking from your root password, anyway?
[13:40] <prince_jammys> s/from/for
[13:41] <domas> the whole fun here is that it takes ~5minutes to get to grub 'esc' point, then just few seconds to get over that
[13:41] <ageryweryeyey> (07:10:00  IST) prince_jammys: ageryweryeyey: what's asking from your root password, an; hp lib
[13:41] <ageryweryeyey> i tried my user password
[13:41] <ageryweryeyey> not work it
[13:42] <bartmon> Hey guys! I need advice regarding which filesystem to choose for an archive disk drive. The main thing I want is stability, even between power outages. Speed is second to that. From this you might say just use ext3 and forget xfs but what about others? JFS?
[13:42] <sipior> bartmon: ext3 is a fine choice.
[13:42] <domas> bartmon: I use XFS for speed ;-)
[13:42] <bartmon> sipior: With noatime of course :)
[13:43] <domas> bartmon: people who say XFS is slow probably don't know much about write barriers ;-)
[13:43] <sipior> bartmon: either way. i don't set noatime unless i have a particular reason to.
[13:43] <XenoPhoenix> Hi guys, currently on jaunty, what's the best tips for power saving on ubuntu? I currently get 2.5 hours of battery life on my laptop, where as with windows 7 I currently get 5+
[13:44] <Pici> XenoPhoenix: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[13:44] <bartmon> XenoPhoenix: you need to zuse binary drivers for your gfx card so it can be downclocked
[13:44] <zombie-robot_> can some one help me get apache2 to host using my ip?
[13:45] <bartmon> Hmmmmmm, well I'll just go with ext3 then. Thanks, sipior and domas!
[13:45] <sipior> bartmon: have fun :-)
[13:46] <scunizi> zombie-robot_: if you're doing this at home then most likely your isp is blocking port 80. check your router to make sure it's forwarding the correct port to the right machine and if needed use a free service like dyndns.com
[13:49] <scunizi> s
[13:49] <ageryweryeyey> when i try to open the users and groups thing
[13:49] <thewrath> who is the one who created a kernal upgrade bc of the freeze
[13:49] <ageryweryeyey> it says "You are not allowed to access the system configuration"
[13:49] <thewrath> what is the link?
[13:50] <domas> btw, in case anyone is interested, 'break=init'
[13:50] <scunizi> was there a netsplit?  I have joins parts ignored..
[13:51] <bazhang> scunizi, not so far :)
[13:51] <scunizi> bazhang: this is the slowest I've seen the channel.. actually went almost 2 min. without a post..
[13:52] <thewrath> scunizi: i am here
[13:52] <thewrath> trying to fidn a link could you possibly help me
[13:52] <h00k> scunizi, I was going to start pinging people to see if I got disconnected or something.
[13:52] <scunizi> thewrath: link to what?
[13:52] <scunizi> h00k: almost did that myself :)
[13:53] <thewrath> dchen link to the udpated kernal bc of the freeze that fixes alot of thigns
[13:54] <_DEL> !sudoer
[13:54] <scunizi> thewrath: is this for jaunty? cause I don't know about a freeze in the kernel otherwise.
[13:54] <Pici> !jaunty | thewrath
[13:54] <raven> my bluetooth NAT does not work correct - any experience with that?
[13:54] <_DEL> !sudo
[13:55] <scunizi> raven: yea.. the problem is bluetooth
[13:55] <raven> nice hint
[13:55] <raven> ;)
[13:55] <raven> no i know the problem - what's the solution?
[13:56] <scunizi> raven: I'm not really clear.. you're using bluetooth to provide NAT from a router or something?
[13:56] <raven> no
[13:56] <scunizi> fill me in
[13:56] <raven> i'd like to use my ubuntu-pc as a kind of router to get internet-access from my pocketpc
[13:57] <scunizi> raven: get internet access "from" the pocketpc or "for" the pocketpc
[13:57] <raven> but when i activate  nat network will be disabled - but this does not point out another does not it?
[13:58] <scunizi> raven: get internet access "from" the pocketpc or "for" the pocketpc
[13:58] <elatio> hey, quick question. will all unix commands work in ubuntu/linux?
[13:58] <ziroday> elatio, any linux command you thinking about in particular?
[13:59] <raven> scunizi for
[13:59] <ziroday> elatio, err unix sorry
[13:59] <scunizi> raven: do you already have a router on your lan?
[13:59] <elatio> just any command that'd work on a unix (let's say solaris?) terminal shell
[13:59] <raven> of course
[13:59] <ziroday> elatio: I believe so
[13:59] <raven> this computer is linked to it or what do you mean exactly?
[13:59] <dimebar> elatio: generally, yes.  there are some slight differences but for the most part they should work the same
[13:59] <bobbob1016> Can anyone help me figure out why gnome panel is using 100% cpu?
[13:59] <ziroday> elatio: mv, rm, cp, ls etc are all the same
[14:00] <scunizi> raven: then basically you want to do internet connection sharing off one pc.. using (aachk) bluetooth
[14:00] <elatio> ok, i'm doing a unix class and just wanted to know if i could familiarize myself with the commands on a distro i already have.
[14:00] <ziroday> bobbob1016: can you do killall gnome-panel and see if it still uses a 100% cpu?
[14:00] <elatio> thanks for that.
[14:00] <scunizi> !ics | raven
[14:00] <ziroday> elatio: yeah, you probably can
[14:01] <maxb> elatio: "Mostly". Individual Unix/Linux systems will vary in which commands they have installed. Some more esoteric features may exist in one implementation but not another. So overall, the answer is "It depends"  :-)
[14:01] <Boohbah> elatio: note that there are some syntax differences between solaris and GNU utilities, for example, 'tar'
[14:01] <raven> scunizi oh no - i had a long long fight already with two firewalls i just cannot adjust them correctly - i could cry about that ;)
[14:01] <Boohbah> elatio: also, what maxb said :)
[14:01] <elatio> mm, i hear you have to pay for solaris though.
[14:02] <Boohbah> elatio: well, there is opensolaris
[14:02] <sipior> elatio: no, it's freely available now.
[14:02] <elatio> ahh, ok.
[14:02] <bobbob1016> ziroday, No.  It does that at boot though, you think I should add "killall gnome-panel" to my "sessions" at the end?  Gnome-panel started up again without the 100% usage.
[14:02] <elatio> thank you.
[14:02] <ziroday> bobbob1016: so at boot gnome-panel uses 100% cpu?
[14:02] <elatio> do you think solaris would operate on a laptop?
[14:03] <sipior> elatio: yep.
[14:03] <ehazlett>  is there a way to force apt to be silent (not ask questions for installs)?
[14:03] <elatio> so it can run barebones, on basic pnp function?
[14:03] <sipior> elatio: wireless drivers may be a problem, you'll need to check the supported list.
[14:03] <ziroday> elatio: for solaris questions, ask in #solaris
[14:03] <elatio> lol, ok
[14:04] <bobbob1016> ziroday, It does basically permanently.  I haven't booted in a few days, and it's been 100% since then.
[14:04] <sipior> elatio: there're some friendly folks in #opensolaris, they'll be happy to point you in the right direction.
[14:04] <ziroday> bobbob1016: what about on a new user? Does it still use 100%?
[14:04] <raven> but then i got the right information - the nat works the other way round - sry it's too late for me to think ;)
[14:04] <Yerres> Privet vsem.
[14:05] <Zta> I've got this laptop with Ubuntu 7.04 and I want to install 8.10 on it.  The problem is that the cd-drive doesn't work.  Also, I can't upgrade from 7.04 to 8.10 directly; 7.04 suggests I update to 7.10, but fails - probably because the pools are long removed.  I've downloaded the 8.10 iso though.  Can I boot directly into this from grub=
[14:05] <Zta> ?
[14:05] <XenoPhoenix> bootable USB pen?
[14:05] <gypsymauro> hi
[14:05] <epaphus> hey guys, what do i need in order to be able to view pdf??
[14:05] <bobbob1016> ziroday, I haven't tried that.  Now that I killed it, it isn't using 100% even though it restarted.
[14:05] <elatio> thanks for the pointers
[14:06] <bobbob1016> epaphus, Nothing, just double click a pdf and it should open.
[14:06] <XenoPhoenix> epaphus: evince will view PDFs (installed by default)
[14:06] <gypsymauro> I've to install ubuntu to a friend without internet connection I downloaded ubuntu DVD but I'm sure that I'll miss something for playing dvd divx etc etc, there is an add on cdrom for that?
[14:06] <ziroday> bobbob1016: try it with a new user, it will pinpoint if its a configuration issue or something more serious
[14:06] <agua>  an user called ur_|v|aster from this channel gave me an url that asked for my gmail password
[14:06] <ziroday> gypsymauro: unfortunately not, however there is aptoncd
[14:07] <bobbob1016> ziroday, I will in a bit, have something running I can't kill yet.
[14:07] <ziroday> !aptoncd | gypsymauro
[14:07] <agua> take care
[14:07] <ziroday> bobbob1016: sure
[14:08] <oCean_> !away > RoozbehOnline
[14:08] <sipior> agua: thanks for the heads-up.
[14:09] <gypsymauro> ubottu: ziroday tanx I already know about aptoncd but I'm a purist so I don't have installed all that weird things, I don't watch films and my music is stored on ogg format:) but I'm sure that this boy wants to do that:)
[14:09] <usser> gypsymauro, you can always mirror the repositories
[14:09] <ziroday> gypsymauro: okay
[14:09] <L3dPlatedLinux> would like to use vnc to help out my wife when she is on her pc and would like to what I would need to do that?
[14:09] <ziroday> L3dPlatedLinux: is your wife on the same LAN?
[14:10] <L3dPlatedLinux> yes
[14:10] <FernandoF> After making a clean of empty files i got error message of "session less than 10 seconds" and it seems to be a problem at /etc/gdm/Xsession"  anyone can help?
[14:10] <ziroday> L3dPlatedLinux: have you enabled remote desktop on her computer?
[14:10] <L3dPlatedLinux> not yet
[14:10] <L3dPlatedLinux> not that I know of
[14:10] <raven> scunizi the bluetooth link does not appear in the network manager - how to solve?
[14:11] <Job> Hi guys, Is there a way I can block or stop an IP address using ssh in a linux gateway machine?
[14:11] <FernandoF> After making a KleanSweep of empty files i got error message of "session less than 10 seconds" and it seems to be a problem at /etc/gdm/Xsession"  anyone can help?
[14:11] <ziroday> L3dPlatedLinux: well you need to do that first, then you can connect with the Remote Desktop Viewer
[14:11] <L3dPlatedLinux> sweet will do that now
[14:11] <sipior> FernandoF: which empty files did you remove? sometimes empty files are important...
[14:12] <FernandoF> sipior: unfortunately i made it in a blind way
[14:12] <Zta> Anyone know if it's possible to boot an iso from grub?
[14:12] <Zta> E.g. a live cd.
[14:12] <sipior> FernandoF: deleting files randomly is generally not a good idea :-)
[14:13] <resno> ﻿hello all. I am seeing something weird when I open files in terminal. Is says error reading .nano_histroy: permssion denied. When I try to use pico.
[14:13] <FernandoF> sipior: i realized :(
[14:14] <FernandoF> Now i get my system but no users are allowed to get in... so graphics mode is not available
[14:14] <sipior> FernandoF: depending on what exactly you deleted, a reinstallation might be simplest, especially if you have a separate partition for user data.
[14:16] <FernandoF> sipior: I have no partitions as I un deeply in ubuntu after a virus atack in Windows which destroyed sector 3 of my HD
[14:16] <FernandoF> sipior: reports are
[14:17] <mrwes> Anyone know the rsync option to copy only the files where the time/date stamp has changed?
[14:17] <sipior> FernandoF: well, you must have at least one partition, else what were you running ubuntu on?
[14:17] <FernandoF> sipior: /etc/gdm/Xsession user "username" not found
[14:18] <FernandoF> sipior    [14:19] <sipior> FernandoF: did you run some sort of script to bring you to this state?
[14:19] <epaphus> guys.. how can i install skype on this machine?
[14:20] <Riya> hello I am using Compaq cQ45 lap top . My problem is ,I can't getting proper sound . My sound card is identified .Plz help any one in this online . plz sir Help Me
[14:20] <FernandoF> sipior line 107, in <module> sys.xit (utl.EXIT_CODE_NORMAL) SystemExit: 0
[14:20] <oCean_> !skype | epaphus
[14:20] <L3dPlatedLinux> whats the defualt port for the remote desktop veiwer
[14:20] <L3dPlatedLinux> de fault*
[14:21] <usser> L3dPlatedLinux, 5900 for vnc/ubuntu, something else for windows/rdp
[14:21] <oCean_> mrwes: that is rsync's defaut behaviour iirc.
[14:21] <FernandoF> sipior I tryed several ways, but this state never changed and it is as start...
[14:21] <Chiselhuk_plus1> Hi, anyone here able to help me setup Kontact?
[14:21] <mrwes> oCean_, yah..I just read that -- duh :( ...heh
[14:22] <FernandoF> I hav some messages (error) as BEGIN RING BUFFER
[14:22] <mrwes> <-- stupid
[14:22] <ziroday> Chiselhuk_plus1: #kubuntu :-)
[14:22] <sipior> FernandoF: well, but you had a working system (I assume?), and now you don't. so what exactly did you run to go from state A to state B?
[14:22] <Riya> hello I am using Compaq cQ45 lap top . My problem is ,I can't getting proper sound . My sound card is identified .Plz help any one in this online . plz sir Help Me
[14:22] <lantay77> ubuntu ftw!!
[14:22] <FernandoF> I had a very accurate running system at ubuntu 8.10
[14:23] <Chiselhuk_plus1> ziroday: But no one seemed able to answer that question!!
[14:23] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: what's the output of: ls -l ~/.ICEauthority ?
[14:23] <Chiselhuk_plus1> ziroday: Surely someone here is genius enough?
[14:23] <epaphus> UBuntu 8.10 is also known as interprid.. right?
[14:23] <ScottG1> Ok, so I'm messing around with an external monitor. Right now im kinda wondering about gnome. Gnome is running on both windows but its weird, icons and apearance is different. Does anyone know why this is or have any other experience with dual monitor setups?
[14:23] <resno> Riya: try plugging in your headphones.
[14:23] <L3dPlatedLinux> ok do I have to install something other then just allowing for remote connections?
[14:23] <FernandoF> sipior: I run KleenSweep and accepted blind deletion of files and directories empty
[14:23] <resno> or external speakers
[14:24] <NoobGuest> I am new to linux in general and have just performed an install using the ubuntu 8.10 live on dvd.  The install was performed on a dell.  I used the guided option to utilize the entire HD. Unfortunately, the bios claims there is nothing on the HD even though the install is present when I use the Live-On CD.  Help please?
[14:24] <staar2> hi
[14:24] <FernandoF> sipior and my system seems to be ok yet as I can get in through root and it stilll manages the printers in a network
[14:25] <resno> NoobGuest: you install might not have been successful.
[14:25] <staar2> how to mount my parted disk ?
[14:25] <NoobGuest> Resno: sure but by all appearances things went well.
[14:25] <NoobGuest> what can I do differently if I retry it?
[14:25] <FernandoF> sipior printers conected to my system are addressed by other machines in a network and shared files can be used as well
[14:26] <sipior> FernandoF: prince_jammys asked you a question about the .ICEauthority file, and i'm curious to know the answer as well. do you have this file in your home directory? (note the dot at the beginning of the filename)
[14:27] <sipior> FernandoF: another possiblity would be to create another user, and see if they don't have the same problems when using your system.
[14:27] <Riya> how can i connect my mobile in PC (sony ericsson k800i) . any pc sute ?
[14:27] <NoobGuest> Is there anyway for me to examine the MBR from the liveon Ubuntu desktop/command line?
[14:27] <FernandoF> prince_jammys: sorry i did not see your question.  hold a minute please
[14:28] <ScottG1> Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'. Without the GNOME settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with Bonobo, or a non-GNOME (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the GNOME settings manager.
[14:28] <FernandoF> sipior : ok, hold a minute please
[14:28] <usser> NoobGuest, what do you want to examine? binary code?
[14:28] <NoobGuest> Preferably not
[14:28] <sipior> NoobGuest: sure, if you're just looking for the partition table, fdisk or sfdisk will show you what you want.
[14:28] <NoobGuest> sipior: thanks
[14:28] <Dreamglider> i am having a lot of hard disk activity, how can  i see what is using the disk so much ?
[14:29] <lucas_> someone already have used nast !?
[14:29] <resno> Dreamglider: using top in terminal
[14:29] <resno> Dreamglider: or ctrl and esc
[14:29]  * grawity pokes He-man.
[14:29] <He-man> Hello grawity:)
[14:29] <L3dPlatedLinux> awesome
[14:29] <He-man> Can somebody help me on a relatively regular basis?
[14:29] <L3dPlatedLinux>  ubuntu is the sweetest thing since indoor plumbing
[14:30] <He-man> Indoor plumbing???  They have that?
[14:30] <Dreamglider> resno: what does ctrl+esc ?
[14:30] <Dreamglider> resno: what does ctrl+esc do?
[14:30] <resno> Dreamglider: brings up "task manager"
[14:30] <resno> process manager... to use the correct term
[14:30] <ron2010> how do i check if my ubuntu is hardy or other one :)
[14:31] <He-man> Can somebody help me with some problems in my understanding of Ubuntu?
[14:31] <genii> ron2010: lsb_release -a
[14:31] <He-man> Please?
[14:31] <grawity> He-man: Just ask.
[14:31] <sipior> He-man: we'll need a more specific question to go on...
[14:32] <un|matrix> is there any way to disable alternating colors in nautilus's list view?
[14:32] <He-man> Okay, thanks.  Firstly, where can I find a document to download that will give me some basic information so I can learn to understand language used?
[14:32] <grawity> He-man: What do you mean by "language used"?
[14:32] <He-man> Well, for instance, I dont know how to use the terminal commands to load things, or unload, etc.
[14:32] <NoobGuest> linux documentiation project rocks
[14:33] <NoobGuest> heman
[14:33] <grawity> He-man: Ah, you mean Bash.
[14:33] <He-man> Bash?
[14:33] <Dreamglider> i installed mythtv last night, it downloaded some 70Mb now when i do remove mythtv it says only 77.8Kb will be freed!
[14:33] <NoobGuest> Bourne again Shell
[14:33] <He-man> See how unlettered I am?
[14:33] <He-man> Ah.
[14:33] <grawity> He-man: Bash, or /bin/bash, is the default shell on Ubuntu.
[14:33] <sdfsg> please check comes whether http://www.24au.ru/Details.aspx?LotID=36128&ui=7707
[14:33] <grawity> (Actually, I think Ubuntu now uses 'dash', but it's basically the same.)
[14:33] <He-man> Okay.
[14:34] <prince_jammys> it uses dash for init scripts, and bash as the user's shell
[14:34] <grawity> prince_jammys: Ah.
[14:34] <staar2> how to part and mount the disk ?
[14:34] <FernandoF> prince_jammys and sipior : sorry my drive /dev/sda3 is remounting, please be patient
[14:34] <resno> Dreamglider: i imagine it included some expansion. mythtv also uses a db which might not be included in the 70mb.
[14:34] <XenoPhoenix> grawity, yeah it is dash now, but no practical difference
[14:34] <resno> Dreamglider: did you get any tv listings?
[14:34] <grawity> He-man: So google for "bash tutorial" - http://tldp.org/ is quite good too.
[14:34] <Boohbah> grawity: hmm, the Debian Almquist shell? I learned something new
[14:34] <un|matrix> Dreamglider: remove mythtv and run sudo apt-get autoremove  ... it will clean up anything else that came along
[14:34] <prince_jammys> He-man: but most commands you see here, for example, are external programs that aren't really a "language"
[14:35] <prince_jammys> "ls", "rm", "mv", etc. are all programs
[14:35] <ron2010> thanks
[14:35] <Riya> how can i connect my mobile in PC (sony ericsson k800i) . any pc sute ?
[14:35] <Riya> how can i connect my mobile in PC (sony ericsson k800i) . any pc sute ?
[14:35] <He-man> grawity: Thanks, Ill try that.
[14:36] <prince_jammys> !shell | He-man
[14:36] <un|matrix> !nautilus
[14:36] <resno> Riya: can you stop flooding the chat with your question. if you dont get an answer no one knows.
[14:36] <un|matrix> :/
[14:36] <oCean_> He-man: download your free copy of Ubuntu pocketguide here: http://ubuntupocketguide.com/download3.html
[14:36] <grandemahatma> hallo everybody! How can I list the available channels? If I type /list #ubuntu* it doesnt show me anything..
[14:36] <oCean_> He-man: that's a nice start
[14:36] <He-man> prince_jammys: Do I type !shell in at the terminal?
[14:36] <Dreamglider> resno: no listings, un|matrix autoremove <package> or just autoremove ?
[14:36] <prince_jammys> He-man: no, that's a trigger for this channel's bot
[14:37] <Chrom_> hi all. I have a problem uninstalling virtualbox. After correct apt-get remove --purge vitualbox*, at boot the system still tries to load the virtualbox module. Is there a clean way to remove all the virtualbox configurations (users, groups, modules)?
[14:37] <prince_jammys> He-man: you can see the URL the bot sent you
[14:37] <He-man> Oh, okay.  lol
[14:37] <He-man> At least I know lol, eh.
[14:37] <L3dPlatedLinux>  nice link thanks
[14:37] <He-man> Although, technically, it should be typed in capitals, or it should be loq
[14:37] <un|matrix> Dreamlinder: just autoremove
[14:37] <Riya> sir resno Thanx
[14:37] <un|matrix> Dreamglider*
[14:38] <epaphus> guys, if i encrypt my system with the encryption offered in the Ubuntu Alternate cd... how can I change the password?
[14:38] <un|matrix> Riya: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+sony+ericsson+k800i
[14:38] <grawity> He-man: Eh, "lol" is now almost a real word.
[14:38] <Riya> can u help for my sound problum
[14:38] <Dreamglider> un|matrix: Ok thanks
[14:38] <He-man> I couldnt see the comment from the bot, but I could do it again, as long as it doesnt boot me
[14:38] <marctww> Anyone here have experience with what looks like a redraw-bug with nvidia-177.82 driver in Ubuntu 8.10?
[14:39] <oCean_> !sound | Riya
[14:39] <marctww> yes but im interested to know if a big exists
[14:39] <un|matrix> marctww: in which cases does the redraw-bug appear
[14:39] <ArcSighter1> hi everyone
[14:39] <oCean_> Riya: when you're done following those guides, and still have problems, be sure to share the details here. Like hardware and actions sofar.
[14:39] <Dreamglider> i think mythtv caused the high hd activity, it stopped after removing mythtv.
[14:40] <s3r3n1t7> I've been having some issues with Pidgin lately. It seems to crash randomly with no error or message in syslog, and whenever it logs on to my msn account it will give me an error message that the user cannot be added. According to a few bug reports the buddy messenger@hotmail.com or messenger@microsoft.com is the cause, however neither are in my buddy list nor block list.
[14:40] <marctww> Anyone here have experience with what looks like a redraw-bug with nvidia-177.82 driver in Ubuntu 8.10?
[14:40] <un|matrix> marctww: there are lots of bugs with nvidia drivers, unfortunately there's not much we can do about it because they're proprietary closed-source
[14:40] <ArcSighter1> what's the most reliable way to low-level format a usb drive ????
[14:41] <Dreamglider> TOP says "3 users" does that mean there are 3 users logged on to my system ??
[14:41] <FernandoF> prince_jammys: sipior: the outcome of ls -l ~/.ICEauthrity is "-rw------- 1 fernando root 615 Mar 12 06:03/root/,ICEauthority
[14:41] <ArcSighter1> what's the most reliable way to low-level format a usb drive ????
[14:41] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: change the group owner
[14:41] <un|matrix> marctww: you have to be more specific than that...
[14:41] <sisto> hi! Does anyone know of a list of places that sell computers with free software?
[14:42] <He-man> Thank you folks for your help.  Ill be back in here later, or I may just sit on the side.
[14:42] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: sudo chown fernando:fernando ~/.ICEauthority
[14:42] <FernandoF> prince_jammys can you type the command?
[14:42] <un|matrix> sisto: in what part of the planet?
[14:42] <staar2> !mp3
[14:42] <sisto> I'm just looking for a site that lists places that sell free software computer.
[14:42] <sisto> *computers
[14:42] <resno> Dreamglider: depends on the what the users are.
[14:42] <mint3> not bad
[14:42] <marctww> un|matrix: are you staff in here?
[14:42] <mint3> jaunty's pretty neat
[14:42] <un|matrix> marctww: no
[14:43] <sisto> any place
[14:43] <ArcSighter1> best way to low-level format a usb drive? fdformat? fdisk? parted? mkfs?
[14:43] <iceroot> sisto: i found a list on debian.org but that are only shops who sell computers with debian
[14:43] <FernandoF> prince_jammys I got message unable to resolve host Malhada-Xibas
[14:43] <ynk> could anyone suggest a good/popular web dev ide like Dreamweaver for the *nix?
[14:43] <un2him_> how do you import outlook pst into evolution 2.26?  This is supposed to be a new feature
[14:43] <Dreamglider> resno: im the only user i know of !
[14:44] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: hm, that's likely a general issue with sudo. are the permissions now different?
[14:44] <grawity> ArcSighter1: I don't think any of them will do a real low-level format... but parted/fdisk might be what you want.
[14:44] <hil> sisto: http://www.linux.org/vendor/system/index.html
[14:44] <sisto> iceroot: that's a start, will look for that
[14:44] <resno> Dreamglider: well if you are running certain programs they have user also. like database software.
[14:44] <sisto> hil: thanks
[14:44] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: that file (.ICEauthority) can cause the "less than 10 seconds" error
[14:44] <sisto> iceroot: thank u too
[14:44] <resno> Dreamglider: mythtv might create a db and thats one of the users youll see
[14:45] <ArcSighter1> http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/HDD-Low-Level-Format-Tool.shtml
[14:45] <FernandoF> prince_jammys I think no change in permissions, but could you be more specific?
[14:45] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: when you ls -l ~/.ICEauthority , it should show 'fernando fernando' , NOT root
[14:45] <mint3> how do i put icons on my desktop again ?
[14:45] <s3r3n1t7> prince_jammys, if i may be so bold, his resolv.conf might be broken due to his graphical session not getting logged in properly. Doing this in a recovery mode would give no problems.
[14:45] <prince_jammys> you may be so bold :)
[14:45] <Dreamglider> resno: OK, well i removed mythtv, how do i see what the "user's" are doing/what programs they are running
[14:46] <dAnjou> hi, does cron create any logs?
[14:46] <s3r3n1t7> dAnjou, it does for me, yes
[14:46] <xhunter> hi
[14:46] <dAnjou> s3r3n1t7: where?
[14:46] <un2him> how do you import outlook pst into evolution 2.26?  This is supposed to be a new feature
[14:46] <FernandoF> My command line shows "root@Malhada-Xibas:~#"
[14:46] <un|matrix> Dreamglider: System Monitor --> Processes --> View --> All Processes
[14:47] <NoobGuest> Ok, so i just ran sudo sfdisk -l /media/disk from the ubuntu 8.10 liveon terminal and my output was this:"last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40755
[14:47] <NoobGuest> Disk /media/disk: cannot get geometry
[14:47] <NoobGuest> Disk /media/disk: cannot get size
[14:47] <NoobGuest> Disk /media/disk: 0 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
[14:47] <NoobGuest> read: Is a directory
[14:47] <FloodBot2> NoobGuest: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <NoobGuest> sfdisk: read error on /media/disk - cannot read sector 0
[14:47] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: oh, you're root?
[14:47] <xhunter> Can I make a sharing folder between windows and ubuntu ? Because am making a Duel-boot
[14:47] <s3r3n1t7> dAnjou, which log files would be of interest?
[14:47] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: then why was the file owned by 'fernando'? now i'm just confused. i assumed you were logged in as fernando, not root
[14:47] <He-man> I know I am a cyber-dummy, but the publication "Getting Started with BASH" is too complex for me.  See I don't even know what a shell is.
[14:47] <FernandoF> prince_jammys yes it shows fernando now
[14:48] <A-KO> what's a good module for apache to provide bandwidth limiting?
[14:48] <A-KO> or rather, a quota?
[14:48] <hil> dAnjou: sh'd be in syslog
[14:48] <Koylaa> any one help me...i put up this question in java..but noone can ans me..as somebody told me it is related to ld.so.conf.d:    i m gettin following error...Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no link-grammar-java in java.library.path
[14:48] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: but your shell prompt says you're root. what's the output of 'echo $HOME' ?
[14:48] <Aeryal> alguien sabe como se registra un nick aqui?
[14:48] <NoobGuest> He-Man: a shell is a text based method of interacting recieving information and giving commands to the operating system
[14:48] <Riya> From the booting time to last i getting a "KAKAKAKAKA" .(The sound is not clear)
[14:48] <NoobGuest> He-man: sorry, interacting and receiving i mean
[14:48] <NOWAII> Can someone help me use gparted
[14:48] <bazhang> Aeryal, in #freenode
[14:49] <He-man> Cheers NoobGuest.
[14:49] <FernandoF> prince_jammys "/root"
[14:49] <NoobGuest> He-man: you are used to using a graphical user interface called a GUI such as windows etc.
[14:49] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: oh boy
[14:49] <Boohbah> He-man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_shell
[14:49] <He-man> I am using only Ubuntu.  I removed windows about a month ago, and dove in the deepend.
[14:49] <Koylaa> where link-grammar is some other software...which create .so file in /usr/local/lib
[14:49] <s3r3n1t7> dAnjou, the PID is kept in /var/run/crond.pid , however the log level is send to syslog. In /etc/default/cron you can see the log level.
[14:49] <He-man> Sorry, to NoobGuest.
[14:50] <NoobGuest> He-man: Ubuntu is a graphical user interface
[14:50] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: chown root:root ~/.ICEauthority   and log in as your normal user.
[14:50] <Koylaa> plz someone help me...im working frm 3 days..
[14:50] <Boohbah> He-man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_(computing)
[14:50] <NoobGuest> He-Man: if you are not using the shell
[14:50] <No-M3rcy> hi every one
[14:50] <maverick340> hi , is there any tool that will allow me to grab the 'now playing' track ?
[14:50] <Boohbah> He-man: think 'cmd.exe' in Windows/DOS
[14:50] <maverick340> something like amip in windows
[14:50] <Koylaa> any one help me...i put up this question in java..but noone can ans me..as somebody told me it is related to ld.so.conf.d: i m gettin following error...Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no link-grammar-java in java.library.path...where link-grammar is some other software...which create .so file in /usr/local/lib .
[14:50] <He-man> Righto, so cmd.exe is a shell?Boohbah?
[14:50] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: you see, i assumed you were 'fernando', since the file was owned by fernando.
[14:51] <He-man> Same principle?
[14:51] <grawity> He-man: Yes.
[14:51] <NoobGuest> He-man: cmd.exe produces the MS-DOS shell
[14:51] <Koylaa> any one help me...i put up this question in java..but noone can ans me..as somebody told me it is related to ld.so.conf.d: i m gettin following error...Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no link-grammar-java in java.library.path...where link-grammar is some other software...which create .so file in /usr/local/lib ...how to remove this
[14:51] <grawity> NoobGuest: Not exactly - cmd.exe is the Windows command line shell, command.com is the DOS one.
[14:51] <Riya> From the booting time to last i getting a "KAKAKAKAKA" .(The sound is not clear)
[14:51] <He-man> Yessss!!!! Excellent!!  Okay.  First steps are acknowledged.  Thanks.
[14:51] <NoobGuest> He-man: lol thanks
[14:51] <sipior> Koylaa: best to give people a few minutes to read and answer your question, instead of asking repeatedly.
[14:51] <Riya> From the booting time to last i getting a "KAKAKAKAKA" .(The sound is not clear)
[14:51] <NoobGuest> Grawity: thanks to you i mean
[14:52] <mashman> how can i transfer windows xp internet setup in ubuntu ?
[14:52] <raven_> the neverending story goes on....
[14:52] <s3r3n1t7> I've been having some issues with Pidgin lately. It seems to crash randomly with no error or message in syslog, and whenever it logs on to my msn account it will give me an error message that the user cannot be added. According to a few bug reports the buddy messenger@hotmail.com or messenger@microsoft.com is the cause, however neither are in my buddy list nor block list.
[14:52] <Dreamglider> ArcSighter1: dd will format your usb disk
[14:52] <NoobGuest> Grawity: I sound like al gore trying to explain things over here.
[14:52] <raven_> i need help for debugging a synce-automation script please
[14:52] <He-man> I hope you don't mind, but I am half way through my life, and I am only just starting on Linux.  I intend to be a regular here, so I can learn and learn.  Unfortunately, apart from "This is a mouse", when it comes to Linux, I am that new.
[14:52] <Boohbah> Riya: sounds like you have a dying hard drive
[14:53] <NEWzilla> lol instead of typing sudo nano default-ssl i typed pico nano default-ssl      the fun began after ctrl-x
[14:53] <fernandesfer> prince_jammys: sorry i got booted
[14:53] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: basically, the file should be root:root for root's .ICEauthority and fernando:fernando for /home/fernando/.ICEauthority
[14:53] <Koylaa> sipior: sure..cann u help me...i m stuck in between...my project from past 3 days..
[14:53] <Boohbah> Riya: check out smartmontools, smartctl HD diagnostics
[14:53] <un|matrix> He-man: it's good to see you're showing the enthusiasm ;)
[14:53] <mashman> how can i transfer windows xp internet setup in ubuntu ?
[14:53] <grawity> mashman: you can't.
[14:53] <un|matrix> s3r3n1t7: wipe Pidgin's config folder
[14:53] <mashman> :)
[14:53] <fernandesfer> hi
[14:53] <need_help> heya all i have something my squid won't write on folder cache it give me operation not permit seems no write/access on folder i go to root and try to give access write/read wont work
[14:53] <No-M3rcy> I can not contact the Internet Altoziap 8.10 Is there who can help me
[14:53] <sipior> maverick340: you could try using "lsof", and grepping for an mp3 suffix or the like. not very elegant, though. otherwise, maybe your media player has an api for accessing such things. which one were you using?
[14:53] <s3r3n1t7> un|matrix, done and done. It works for one login, the second time it breaks.
[14:53] <mashman> i got problem with intel ac'97 modem
[14:54] <No-M3rcy> I can not contact the Internet Altoziap 8.10 Is there who can help me
[14:54] <Boohbah> maverick340: yes, that depends on your media player and your irc client
[14:54] <un|matrix> s3r3n1t7: what version are you using
[14:54] <He-man> Long way to go though, un|matrix  Still, I need to learn it.  Sick of microsoft and their inconveniences, and when a free program does more than microsoft who charges for less, I am outraged.
[14:54] <dAnjou> s3r3n1t7: thanks
[14:54] <maverick340> banshee , or rhytmbox
[14:54] <maverick340> i am not picky
[14:54] <sipior> Koylaa: well, do you have the required .so in /usr/local/lib?
[14:54] <prince_jammys> fernandesfer: basically, the file should be root:root for root's .ICEauthority and fernando:fernando for /home/fernando/.ICEauthority
[14:54] <maverick340> i have audacious installed too
[14:55] <s3r3n1t7> un|matrix, latest one on Ubuntu 8.04. (haven't had time to upgrade yet). Version 2.5.2.
[14:55] <un|matrix> s3r3n1t7: have u tried disabling all plugins?
[14:55] <He-man> How do I quit one channel on here, and leave the other open?  Do I type /quit?
[14:55] <No-M3rcy> I can not contact the Internet version 8.10 is there who can help me
[14:55] <need_help> heya all i have something my squid won't write on folder cache it give me operation not permit seems no write/access on folder i go to root and try to give access write/read wont work
[14:55] <XenoPhoenix> "/part"
[14:55] <Dreamglider> He-man: part
[14:56] <He-man> Thanks folks.
[14:56] <maverick340> sipior, Boohbah : using rhythbox or banshee . i am not picky
[14:56] <He-man> Excellent.
[14:56] <No-M3rcy> pls can anybody here help me
[14:56] <raven_> any error in the script could anyone help?...: /usr/bin/syncpda.sh Unbekannte ID: synce-serial-start /usr/bin/syncpda.sh: 14: [[: not found dccm: Kein Prozess beendet
[14:56] <raven_> in: /usr/bin/dccm: No such file or directory
[14:56] <Dreamglider> No-M3rcy: ask
[14:56] <Koylaa> sipior: ya everything is alright in /usr/local/lib and i do included this i n ld.so.conf
[14:56] <No-M3rcy> I can not contact the Internet version 8.10 is there who can help me
[14:56] <sipior> maverick340: so here's a guy who wrote a plugin for accessing cover art through banshee: http://snorp.net/2007/02/28/banshee-and-awn/  Maybe you can steal that and modify it for your needs.
[14:56] <Koylaa> sipior: include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf /usr/local/lib.....this is my ld.so.conf
[14:57] <s3r3n1t7> un|matrix, not yet with all plugins disabled. I have tried it on a fresh installation with the default plugins, which works fine for 1 login, but the second login seems to bug then. I'm building a second system at home atm, which will have the latest beta. however, i'd so love to have it working properly on my laptop.
[14:57] <maverick340> sipior: thanks mate ;)
[14:57] <sipior> Koylaa: did you rerun ldconfig after making those changes?
[14:57] <un|matrix> s3r3n1t7: also try running pidgin in terminal and see what error messages it produces when it crashes
[14:58] <un|matrix> s3r3n1t7: i believe the appropriate command would be pidgin -d
[14:58] <mashman> is it possible that i can install the ageresystem winmodem and intel ac'97 modem ?
[14:58] <No-M3rcy> Dreamglider :)
[14:58] <No-M3rcy>  1436 and no body can help me
[14:58] <Koylaa> siphor: ya...
[14:58] <ari_> compiz worked on my computer when running linux live..now that i installed to hard drive compiz stopped working....can you help?
[14:58] <s3r3n1t7> un|matrix, haven't tried that yet. Will check for the proper debug switch. I can just pipe the whole load into a file and check afterwards right?
[14:58] <He-man> Is there a way to remove and then replace Ubuntu without having to remove files?  I think I have downloaded too many things onto my computer.
[14:58] <maverick340> sipior: its a dll plugin , how do i view it ?
[14:59] <Riya> my audio sound is unclear I am using compaq cq 45 lap top
[14:59] <un|matrix> s3r3n1t7: yeah, just use the debug switch
[14:59] <s3r3n1t7> un|matrix, will do and report back later.
[14:59] <FernandF> prince_jammys sorry for getting booted again and thanks for your patience
[14:59] <Koylaa> sipior: by using sudo ldconfig
[14:59] <No-M3rcy>  1436 users and no body can help me
[14:59] <sipior> No-M3rcy: we're not psychic (well, at least i'm not). did you have a question to ask, or are you going to make us guess?
[14:59] <ArcSighter> hi it's possible to low-level format a usb drive that doesn't gets recognized by my ubuntu-hardy??
[14:59] <NoobGuest> I am trying to examine the partitions/boot record on my recent linux install and I am getting this error "last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40755; Disk /media/disk: cannot get geometry; Disk /media/disk: cannot get size; Disk /media/disk: 0 cylinders, 255; heads, 63 sectors/track; read: Is a directory; sfdisk: read error on /media/disk - cannot read; sector 0;  /media/disk: unrecognized partition table type;No partitions found"
[15:00] <He-man> Sorry mate, Im new, and dumb when it comes to this. No-M3rcy
[15:00] <un|matrix> No-M3rcy: your question did not make any sense, try again
[15:00] <NoobGuest> That was from fdisk and I had a similar response from sfdisk
[15:00] <Riya> SIR PLZ HELP ME THAT MY AUDIO IS NOT CLEAR
[15:00] <grawity> Riya: PLZ STOP SHOUTING
[15:00] <Dreamglider> !ask > No-M3rcy
[15:00] <NoobGuest> lol?
[15:00] <sipior> maverick340: hmm...the source should be around somewhere, or you might try emailing the author and ask if you can have a look.
[15:01] <raven_> any error in the script could anyone help?...: /usr/bin/syncpda.sh Unbekannte ID: synce-serial-start /usr/bin/syncpda.sh: 14: [[: not found dccm: Kein Prozess beendet
[15:01] <Guest88447> CONNECT irc.spotchat.org
[15:01] <sipior> maverick340: i assumed he had a link to a tarball with the source code, not just the binary :-)
[15:01] <prince_jammys> grawity: well, he has an audio problem :)
[15:01] <No-M3rcy> it's ok thx every body
[15:01] <maverick340> sipior: having a look at Rhythmbox's API
[15:01] <FernandF> prince_jammys: so I have now /.ICEauthority listed to fernando but in /root/.ICEauthority
[15:01] <ArcSighter> hi how can I format a usb drive that doesn't gets recognized by my syste>
[15:01] <maverick340> maybe ill pick it up something there
[15:01] <prince_jammys> FernandF: you're still root, correct?
[15:02] <FernandF> yes
[15:02] <KaptenRodSkagg> anyone having problem with openoffice and templates?  when i try to browse templates the OO stops working...
[15:02] <FernandF> I am chatting in a different computer
[15:02] <Riya> IN MY SYSTEM [COMPAQ CQ 45 ] MULTIMEDIA  IS NOT CORRECT . THE VIDEO & AUDIO IS MOVING SLOW PLZ HELP ANY ONE PLZ SIR
[15:02] <prince_jammys> FernandF: chown root:root /root/.ICEauthority ; chown fernando:fernando ~fernando/.ICEauthority
[15:02] <jimdb_> ArcSighter: What file system is on the drive now?
[15:02] <NoobGuest> lol
[15:02] <Picassotamus> !caps | Riya
[15:03] <NoobGuest> that guy is funny
[15:03]  * grawity pokes someone that has the mighty +o
[15:03] <He-man> How can I refresh my download of ubuntu to make sure I havent downloaded too much stuff?  Like a fresh start?
[15:03] <grawity> NoobGuest: Eh, you should see the Windows noobs.
[15:03] <Dreamglider> Riya: did you install any codec's ?
[15:03] <ArcSighter> jimdb_: the usb drive wasn't my property so I can't tell
[15:03] <NoobGuest> I guess
[15:03] <NoobGuest> lol
[15:03] <grawity> He-man: What do you mean by "too much stuff"?
[15:03] <un|matrix> Riya: i'm guessing you need a proper video driver
[15:03] <NoobGuest> grawity can you understand the lba error i listed earlier?
[15:03] <mint3> how do i put my computer, recycle bin network icon on my desktop
[15:04] <Riya> i am not installed any code's
[15:04] <He-man> grawity: I have downloaded ubunto and kubuntu, and other stuff that I dont know if I need them or not.
[15:04] <Koylaa> sipior: i m waiting for reply..
[15:04] <prince_jammys> FernandF: and after you've done that, see if you can log into an X session
[15:04] <un|matrix> mint3: you can do it with Ubuntu Tweak, or in gconf-editor
[15:04] <Riya> My video drive detected properly
[15:04] <Dreamglider> Riya: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras   | should improve things.
[15:04] <mint3> un|matrix,  yeah i am trying gconf
[15:04] <ArcSighter> so , how I can format that ???
[15:04] <mint3> where do i go there
[15:05] <jimdb_> ArcSighter: Then you don't care?  In a terminal window type. Sudo apt-get install gparted. Using that you can reformat the partition.
[15:05] <hil> ArcSighter: try gparted
[15:05] <un|matrix> mint3: / --> apps --> nautilus --> desktop ;)
[15:05] <ArcSighter> jimdb_: of course I know about gparted
[15:05] <sipior> Koylaa: well, if you've run ldconfig, and verified that it completed without error, i don't know what else to tell you. you'll need to track down why your code won't link, no way around it.
[15:05] <Dreamglider> arcsighter > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[15:05] <jimdb_> ArcSighter: Ru
[15:06] <FernandF> prince_jammys:  does X session mean normal session?
[15:06] <sipior> Koylaa: if you're using an ide of some sort, you might see if it has any useful features for this sort of debugging.
[15:06] <peepsalot> i just plugged in my network cable and X spontaneously restarted
[15:06] <prince_jammys> FernandF: a GUI session, the kind you're having trouble with
[15:06] <Dreamglider> arcsighter that should write 0'z to all sectors on your device
[15:06] <FernandF> I have don the commands you ordered or strongly suggested :)
[15:06] <jimdb_> ArcSighter: That is your answer. It will format as easily as it partitions.
[15:07] <ubuntistas> does anybody know how can i get the new ubuntu themes?
[15:07] <FernandF> price_jammys : on the way master prince
[15:07] <prince_jammys> FernandF: ok. now try to start a graphical sesssion.
[15:07] <s3r3n1t7> ubuntistas, www.gnome-look.org has a lot of stuff
[15:08] <prince_jammys> FernandF: it may not work, but those permissions were wrong and that file can sometimes cause the error
[15:08] <FernandF> prince_jammys same error
[15:08] <|REM|> i run ubuntu in a vm.  it gets shut down improperly and then i have to manually mount it and run fsck on it every time it starts up.  Is it feesible to write a script that just runs and does this whether or not it is needed so I dont have to do it manually/
[15:08] <ufa> hi
[15:08] <prince_jammys> FernandF: "less than 10 seconds" ?
[15:08] <s3r3n1t7> prince_jammys, FernandF what does the error hold exactly?
[15:08] <ufa> how can I enable the new notification system um Jaunty?
[15:08] <Pici> ufa: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[15:08] <epaphus> guys.. whats the url for the instructions on getting skype to work?
[15:08] <grawity> |REM|: I kind of thought all today's distros do that automatically :/
[15:08] <ufa> ko
[15:08] <ufa> thx Pici
[15:09] <FernandF> prince_jammys : "your session lasted less than 10"seconds"  blablaba
[15:09] <|REM|> hmm ok.  I have an older version.  Let me move to the newest and see if that will fix it... =)
[15:09] <Stefano> hi all! is there a network application clients can access and let the server log all their activity?
[15:09] <s3r3n1t7> prince_jammys, did you check if the driver is set in xorg.conf and stuff?
[15:09] <|REM|> i just figured it was a file system issue
[15:09] <FernandF> prince_jammys after i have a way to read details of error and I made it
[15:09] <genii> Stefano: Samba?
[15:10] <He-man> Whoops.
[15:10] <prince_jammys> s3r3n1t7: no, be my guest. i once solved the problem with .ICEauthority. shame it took forever to change the perms back to normal.
[15:10] <Stefano> genii, I can monitot also local application wuth samba?
[15:10] <He-man> What is CTCP Version?
[15:10] <NoobGuest> How can I create a new, accurate, and working partition table for my drive without delete the information contained therein?
[15:10] <Stefano> genii, sorry : monitor
[15:10] <s3r3n1t7> prince_jammys, it can be a pain, yes.
[15:10] <FernandF> prince_jammys: and error messages are
[15:11] <Dreamglider> NoobGuest: first do a backup, then reformate your drive
[15:11] <SM411> Anyone that can help me add winxp in menu.lst ?
[15:11] <No-M3rcy> How do I work settings online
[15:11] <Stefano> genii, I wouldn't create a domain
[15:11] <s3r3n1t7> prince_jammys, there's 2 other causes that i know off, one is a wrong video driver and the other is a full HD.
[15:11] <FernandF> prince_jammys: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[15:11] <pronoy> how do i obtain a .bin file for sun-jdk-jre package
[15:11] <prince_jammys> s3r3n1t7: yeah, heard of those.
[15:11] <ubuntistas> i cannot find themes in it ser
[15:11] <gartral> alrightyy, i've been fighting this for days, i have a new sound card, PCI, it comes up as a Crystal Fusion CS46xx, ever since i installed it, no audio/visual app works right, and i see 3 of each of the two sound cards in my system, whats going on here?
[15:11] <NoobGuest> Backup is unnecessary as it is a fresh install I was mostly interested in it for the knowledge purposes
[15:11] <prince_jammys> FernandF: that error is mentioned plenty in the forums. you should take a look at that, and listen to s3r3n1t7
[15:11] <FernandF> prince_jammys: No profile found for user 'fernando'
[15:12] <s3r3n1t7> FernandF, would you be so kind to check if you hard disk is full?
[15:12] <FernandF> prince_jammys: i took and tryed the solutions
[15:12] <kneeki> Anyone have a link comparing EXT to NTFS? I'm curious how EXT does not fragment the HDD
[15:12] <FernandF> nprince_jammys: no way
[15:12] <grawity> kneeki: Which EXT - ext2, ext3 or ext4?
[15:12] <Dreamglider> NoobGuest: > !grub
[15:12] <prince_jammys> FernandF: who owns your home dir?
[15:13] <Pici> !defrag | kneeki
[15:13] <kneeki> grawity: ext3 now, since ext4 is not mainstream yet
[15:13] <Dreamglider> !grub > NoobGuest
[15:13] <prince_jammys> FernandF: ls -ld /home/fernando  and paste the line here
[15:13] <He-man> grawity, what is CTCP Version?
[15:13] <kneeki> thanks!
[15:13] <FernandF> prince_jammys: there is more tan one week i am fighting as this system is the core of my home network and my wif and daughters would have problems if i loose all i have inside and the conections to printers
[15:13] <pronoy> how do i obtain a .bin file for sun-jdk-jre package
[15:13] <pronoy> how do i obtain a .bin file for sun-jdk-jre package
[15:13] <BlackCoffee> its a ctcp request wich will get what version of irc client you're using
[15:13] <grawity> He-man: CTCPs are a kind of messages that are intended for the IRC client (program) itself, not the user. If I send you a CTCP Version command, your client replies with its name.
[15:14] <grawity> He-man: Try /ctcp grawity version
[15:14] <He-man> cheers
[15:14] <prince_jammys> FernandF: well, this doesn't suggest you've lost any data
[15:14] <genii> Stefano: samba monitors what files are open by what user, who logged in when, etc. But since it's primarily a file serving program it has no mechanism for spying on what the clients are doing outside of those things
[15:14] <He-man> Ah, okay.
[15:14] <He-man> So is mine the same version as yours?
[15:14] <gartral> grawity: you can shorten that too /version
[15:14] <genii> Stefano: Apologies on lag, work required me
[15:14] <Stefano> genii, exactly, I need something like that
[15:14] <grawity> gartral: That depends on the client.
[15:14] <Koylaa> sipior: thnks for the reply i will check it out
[15:14] <Stefano> genii, it's ok!
[15:15] <gartral> grawity: it works in pidgin, rissi, xchat, and konversation....
[15:15] <grawity> gartral: But it might not work in other clients. And /ctcp works even on jmIrc.
[15:15] <ubuntistas> where can i find the new ubuntu themes like wave?
[15:15] <ubuntistas> ?
[15:15] <mint3> how do  u change theme on gnome
[15:16] <He-man> What is the +e and -e?  Sounds like a physics lesson.
[15:16] <NoobGuest> dreamglider: ill look at this thanks
[15:16] <gartral> alrighty, i've been fighting this for days, i have a new sound card, PCI, it comes up as a Crystal Fusion CS46xx, ever since i installed it, no audio/visual app works right, and i see 3 of each of the two sound cards in my system, whats going on here?
[15:16] <LjL> He-man: it's to let people who are joining from a web gateway in
[15:16] <peepsalot> mint3, System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[15:17] <BlackCoffee> or right click,choose change background,you'll get a theme switcher and all of it's preferences
[15:17] <FernandoF> prince_jammys: sorry i missed the command line ...put it again please
[15:17] <He-man> Thanks LjL.  What is a web gateway?  Is that like from a computer on a server?
[15:17] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: a simple check: ls -ld /home/fernando
[15:17] <Picassotamus> gartral: is your card known to work? Have you tried other drivers? What driver are you using? Are u using pulse? etc etc
[15:17] <LjL> He-man: i can explain in #ubuntu-offtopic if you're interested, it's not really ontopic for this place
[15:17] <grawity> He-man: On IRC, channel mode +e is "ban exception" - if user's hostmask is on the exception list, then he will be unaffected by bans.
[15:17] <FernandoF> prince_jammys: i do not know why but now i am having some blus screens in this rescue comper ...so sorry
[15:17] <He-man> Ah, okay.  Not necessary, but thanksLjL.
[15:18] <grawity> He-man: And by web gateway, I think you mean the web-based IRC clients such as Mibbit.
[15:18] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: heh, that sucks. everything's breaking!
[15:18] <He-man> Thanks grawity.
[15:19] <gartral> Picassotamus: yes, this card has worked in ever other version of ubuntu ive tryed, and i have tryed useing pulse, oss, alsa, esd, and jack, non work, at least as i expect it, and if there were a way to remove the intergrated card, or disable it inside ubuntu, that would be ideal
[15:19] <s3r3n1t7> FernandF, did you run that command he gave you?
[15:20] <Picassotamus> gartral: can u disable it in BIOS?
[15:20] <FernandoF> prince_jammys: /home/fernando
[15:20] <mint3> where can i get some decent gnome themes
[15:20] <FernandoF> prince_jammys: do you want i list initial line as wel
[15:20] <Kristoffer_83> Hi!
[15:20] <Kristoffer_83> I've read about libproxy-mozjs and libproxy-webkit, but I still don't know what option to choose.
[15:20] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: ls -ld /home/fernando  (it's a lower case L, not a 1)
[15:21] <prince_jammys> ell dee
[15:21] <un|matrix> mint3: gnome-look.org
[15:21] <FernandoF> prince_jammys: "drwxr-xr-x 86 fernando fernando 20480 2009-03-27 15:14 /home/fernando
[15:21] <pronoy> guys a little help please
[15:21] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: ok. that's fine. :)
[15:21] <pronoy> how do i obtain a .bin file for sun-jdk-jre package
[15:21] <s3r3n1t7> !java | pronoy
[15:22] <pronoy> done that
[15:22] <FernandoF> prince_jammys: :-)
[15:22] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: now you're either going to have to ask s3r3n1t7 or hit the forums for the "less than 10 seconds" error. it's mentioned plenty
[15:22] <s3r3n1t7> prince_jammys, would you be so kind to let him check if his hard disk is full? I'm building a second system atm, so i'm afraid i'll have to leave the helping to you.
[15:22] <pronoy> i need a standalone .bin file for i386 architecture don't have resources to satisfy dependencies
[15:22] <shled> Hello all
[15:22] <gartral> Picassotamus: nope :) these bios are worse than anything ive ever seen, theres not even a way to enable/disable PS/2 support on the board, your forced to leave it on
[15:22] <FernandoF> prince_jammys: i did it
[15:22] <Pici> pronoy: Then you need to seek it out from the java website.
[15:22] <prince_jammys> s3r3n1t7: go for it. you take over. my two short checks took a couple of hours
[15:22] <He-man> How can I go about removing all accessories, to start again with downloading other programs on my computer?
[15:23] <oCean_> pronoy: then search the sun site?
[15:23] <pronoy> ok
[15:23] <Picassotamus> gartral: hmmm
[15:23] <He-man> I am after a raw ubuntu, like I had originally to start again without uploading too much other stuff.
[15:24] <gartral> Picassotamus: heh, not to sound like im pressing a point, but, you can't set seconds in the clock....
[15:24] <LjL> He-man: you basically want a fresh install without reinstlaling?
[15:24] <s3r3n1t7> FernandF, please run this command ==> df -h <== it should tell you if there is a partition is full or not. Please tell me if a partition is above 90% full.
[15:24] <He-man> Yes, pretty much.  I dont mind reinstalling, but I tried to install other Linux versions and was unsuccessful, hence the mayhem.LjL
[15:25] <LjL> He-man: if you can find a list of the default packages installed, it should be easy - but i'm not sure where to find such a list, hm
[15:26] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, wouldn't the ubuntu-desktop be the meta package created for that purpose?
[15:26] <SM411> Anyone that can help me add winxp in menu.lst please ? Feel free to PM me.
[15:26] <He-man> Yes, it would be helpful, although I have probably downloaded hundreds of other ones since. LjL
[15:26] <LjL> s3r3n1t7: yes, but i don't know how to tell APT "remove everything except ubuntu-desktop's dependencies"
[15:27] <LjL> He-man: but you don't want to keep them, right?
[15:27] <He-man> lol LjL.  It sure would be useful.
[15:27] <He-man> True LjL
[15:27] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, good point.
[15:28] <hil> LjL: dpkg --get-selections  ?
[15:28] <He-man> LjL: I have a blank auxilliary hard drive, brand new, and I was thinking of loading it onto that, then transferring files which I need, which aren't linux files, just work files.
[15:28] <billing> ,m//
[15:28] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, if you can create a second root, then i guess you could rebuild your system on that drive... right?
[15:28] <LjL> hil: yup - that works if someone had a pristine ubuntu installation - but i don't
[15:29] <hil>  i see
[15:29] <LjL> He-man: have you also installed programs *without* using APT? (like .tar.gz balls, or .bin or .sh scripts)
[15:30] <tq|Memphis> sorry for bad english , i forgot to allocate free space on my 160gb harddisk when i setup the ubuntu , now i need 40gb free ( not formated ) space on my harrdisk can i do that ? i have 160gb all for ubuntu at the moment
[15:30] <He-man> Sorry LjL, I can only guess that it is a yes.  I am so new at this, and I have been blindly grabbing things that I thought would be practical, and others to see what they are.  Quite indiscriminately.  There are only some that I have used the tar.gz commands on, and I don't know what they were.
[15:30] <FernandoF> thx prince jammys
[15:31] <He-man> Like a kid in a lolly shop, and now my teeth are falling out, and I am on a hyper, and can't sleep.lol
[15:31] <ArcSighter> I have a corrupt usb drive with no partition table and parted mklabel fails on segfault, any tip?
[15:31] <prince_jammys> FernandoF: welcome. good luck
[15:31] <LjL> He-man: uhm, i'd reinstall from scratch... on the secondary HD as you say. returning to a pristine install without actually reinstalling is probably possible, but also more complicated than just reinstalling :|
[15:31] <ubuntistas> how can i put the beta version in another partition any clue?
[15:31] <tq|Memphis> can anyone help me please
[15:32] <bittin_> tq|Memphis: with?
[15:32] <tq|Memphis> sorry for bad english , i forgot to allocate free space on my 160gb harddisk when i setup the ubuntu , now i need 40gb free ( not formated ) space on my harrdisk can i do that ? i have 160gb all for ubuntu at the moment
[15:32] <ArcSighter> anyone?
[15:32] <bittin_> try to check with gParted
[15:32] <He-man> Yeah, sounds fair enough.  Thanks too.  Only other problem is the drive is unmountable for some reason.  I dont know if it needs formatting to a specific file system, and if it does, I dont know how to do it.
[15:32] <mint3> how do u get to gconf again
[15:33] <He-man> ArcSighter: Sorry mate, I know nothing.  I am a dummy.
[15:33] <tapiro> salve
[15:33] <ArcSighter> bittin_: gparted is a frontend to parted do you know? of course it crashes too
[15:33] <Pici> mint3: gconf-editor
[15:33] <gartral> sigh, no thoughts Picassotamus?
[15:33] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: df -h made what info are you looking for
[15:33] <sipior> ubuntistas: simply tell the installer to use the partition you want for /. just be quite sure that you don't clobber any existing data in the process, on a partition that you want to keep. you can use the same swap file for each install.
[15:34] <grawity> ArcSighter: How about... dd if=/dev/zero of=/theusbdevice bs=1024 count=16
[15:34] <brandonban6> so, if I upgrade to 9.04 rc, and want to utilize ext4 fs...........I pretty much have to surrender all of my settings, customization and applications and start from scratch right?
[15:34] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: /dev/sda3 68% use
[15:34] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, if you hard disks are full, your root and home drive.
[15:34] <mint3> i downloaded this theme from gnome look. how do i install it
[15:34] <sipior> brandonban6: not if you have backups.
[15:34] <grawity> ArcSighter: That would completely zero out the first 16 k, including (I guess) the partition table.
[15:34] <mint3> i have extracted it and all
[15:34] <Pici> !changetheme > mint3
[15:34] <Pici> !changethemes > mint3
[15:34] <grawity> ArcSighter: But be very careful ™
[15:35] <brandonban6> sipior, something like simple backup would be just fine then?
[15:35] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, do you use any other partitions?
[15:35] <BlackCoffee> !gnome-applets
[15:35] <bharathramnath> Hello..
[15:35] <BlackCoffee> ok,the bot doesn't knoe
[15:35] <tq|Memphis> bittin_ : it seems good thanks
[15:35] <BlackCoffee> where do i configure gnome applets?
[15:35] <brandonban6> !upgrade
[15:35] <Fougner> BlackCoffee, applets? you mean screenlets? =)
[15:35] <shled> Is it possible to run "graphical" applications, e.g. Firefox, in the console, i.e. without a graphical desktop environment?
[15:35] <FernandoF> tmpfs, varrun, varlock, udev and lrm are 0 or 1% use
[15:36] <BlackCoffee> i guess hehe
[15:36] <Fougner> !screenlets
[15:36] <un|matrix> sheld: no
[15:36] <sipior> brandonban6: depends on what you want to keep. if you're planning on upgrading all of your partitions to ext4, might as well reinstall, and restore your user data from backups.
[15:36] <BlackCoffee> ok,that was pretty clear :) thx
[15:36] <ArcSighter> grawity: I've used dd already, but not with your params let me check
[15:37] <un|matrix> sheld: if you want to use a web browser in the console, try links and/or lynx
[15:37] <zilleplus> does annyone know a commabd for linux ubuntu server to renw your internet connection
[15:37] <ArcSighter> grawity: it seg faults too, this is fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/139026/
[15:37] <ArcSighter> grawity: and here the segfault in parted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139029/
[15:37] <ArcSighter> any clues, anyone?
[15:37] <brandonban6> sipior, thanks, I think I will do that! I'm excited for the official release
[15:38] <un|matrix> zillenplus: best guess would be sudo dhclient eth0
[15:38] <NoobGuest> In case there are any devs here I have run into an issue with the "install" program on the desktop.  When I am in safe graphics mode on the live on the install program is larger than the actual screen and it is not resizeable. This means I cant see all of the options at the bottom.
[15:38] <Nike> my firefox browser takes the full screen and doesn't display the toolbar!!
[15:38] <shled> un|matrix: I am currently using w3m, however as a web developer I need to browse graphically. This is the only reason why I needed to install Gnome.
[15:38] <grawity> Nike: Press F11
[15:38] <zilleplus> error netwok is down !!!!!
[15:39] <un|matrix> sheld: so you've got gnome... what's the problem then?
[15:39] <grawity> zilleplus: ?
[15:39] <un|matrix> zillenplus: is it a wireless connection?
[15:39] <zilleplus> i got this from the command sudo dhclient eth1
[15:39] <zilleplus> can't get internet
[15:39] <crispy--1> Hellotion! I got an intel 945 gfx - and when I use compiz and tab between minimized windows the displayed images of the windows are garbeled. Any fix? Seems to me like its just displaying random data from the video memory
[15:39] <Nike> grawity: Thanks. But still it doesn't seem to help
[15:39] <un|matrix> zilleplus: i said eth0 :b
[15:39] <zilleplus> i knwo
[15:39] <grawity> un|matrix: I think you could use Firefox with something simpler... Xfce or fwm
[15:40] <zilleplus> but i got 2 eth devices
[15:40] <zilleplus> eht1 is the working one
[15:40] <Amun> are there any rtl8150 usb-to-ethernet drivers for ubuntu? we tried on cent-os 5 with no luck.
[15:40] <shled> un|matrix: It eats lots of disk space and resources, and I need it just for this one task.
[15:40] <Nike> lemme check
[15:40] <BlackCoffee> ok is compiz-fusion the same as compiz-gnome?
[15:40] <un|matrix> zilleplus: and which one is the non-working one?
[15:40] <zilleplus> eth0
[15:40] <gartral> alrighty, i've been fighting this for days, i have a new sound card, PCI, it comes up as a Crystal Fusion CS46xx, ever since i installed it, no audio/visual app works right, and i see 3 of each of the two sound cards in my system, whats going on here?
[15:40] <grawity> shled: How about Xfce or something even simpler instead of Gnome?
[15:40] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: after df -h i got a table with results for /dev/sda3, tmpfs, varrun, varlock, udev and lrm ... and only /dev/sda3 has 68% of use . Others show 0 or 1%
[15:41] <Picassotamus> gartral: sorry, in and out here at work... um i know there is a way to set a default sound card for alsa, idk if u tried that already, but that would be what i would check next
[15:41] <un|matrix> sheld: what grawity said
[15:41] <gartral> Picassotamus: no, i havent found that, awesome, where is it?
[15:41] <shled> grawity: thanks for the suggestions
[15:41] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, there is no //dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 ?
[15:41] <un|matrix> zilleplus: then why did you type eth1 instead of eth0
[15:41] <FernandoF> no
[15:41] <Nike> grawity: I got it
[15:41] <Picassotamus> gartral: where do you see 3x each of 2 sound cards? cat /etc/asound/cards?
[15:42] <djpetr> potrebuju pomoc
[15:42] <gartral> Picassotamus: in any gui window, on sec, ill take a screen shot
[15:42] <bazhang> !cz
[15:42] <zilleplus> eth0 is not installed its broken
[15:42] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: no
[15:42] <He-man> Hmm, I am certainly new here.
[15:42] <un|matrix> zilleplus: oh you mean ifconfig doesn't show it?
[15:42] <shled> grawity, un|matrix: However my ideal solution would be something like firefox running in fullscreen mode on tty2 and "normal" non-graphical stuff on tty1
[15:43] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, ok. So that rules out a full hard disk. Would you be so kind to tell me what graphics card you use? and please run this command and tell me what it gives you. ==> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[15:43] <zilleplus> no its broke i have new one eth1 i installed the drivers from its
[15:43] <grawity> shled: You could try using Firefox on pure X.
[15:43] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, the last 2 lines are the ones of interest.
[15:43] <zilleplus> if i use ohter it will error
[15:43] <FernandoF> Nvidea
[15:43] <un|matrix> sheld: technically you can run it with only the x server running (no desktop manager)
[15:43] <un|matrix> sheld: but i forgot how to do that, maybe someone will know
[15:43] <grawity> shled: On a console, try running this: DISPLAY=:7 xterm
[15:43] <gartral> Picassotamus: it seems when i have a drop open, i cannot call the printscreen function....
[15:43] <jatt> must X run as root?
[15:43] <jatt> 19683 root      20   0  390m  48m  10m S   15  2.4   4:15.70 Xorg
[15:43] <grawity> shled: Replace :7 with whatever console is X running on.
[15:43] <LjL> jatt: yes
[15:44] <jatt> why>
[15:44] <ArcSighter> grawity: yes I know, but actually parted keeps crashing
[15:44] <ArcSighter> grawity: I'm zeroing all disk now
[15:44] <ArcSighter> grawity: did you check the pastes?
[15:44] <ArcSighter> grawity: using GNU Parted 1.7.1 on ubuntu 8.04.2
[15:44] <FloodBot2> ArcSighter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:44] <ArcSighter> it would probably be 1 gb usb stick drive
[15:44] <ArcSighter> fdisk gives me 998 mb so that's ok
[15:44] <ArcSighter> but gparted and parted both crash when trying to mklabel
[15:44] <gartral> jatt: yes, becaues if it wasnt root, it couldnt wright to the fs the way it does (IIRC)
[15:44] <s3r3n1t7> !enter | ArcSighter
[15:44] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: my graphics card has been changed recently
[15:44] <Picassotamus> gartral: if you go to a terminal and type cat /proc/asound/cards what do you see?
[15:44] <grawity> ArcSighter: Yeah, mhm, I did, okay, mhm, it's okay, I think it's related to some security software you have installed.
[15:44] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, aah. And from what card to what did you change it?
[15:44] <shled> grawity: thanks
[15:44] <jatt> isn't it dangerous?
[15:45] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: it was NVIDEA and the new one worked well after i pluged it
[15:45] <jatt> to run X as root?
[15:45] <grawity> shled: If it doesn't work, try installing dwm as a window manager
[15:45] <un|matrix> jatt: X always runs as root
[15:45] <shled> grawity: thank you very much
[15:45] <grawity> I think X drops privileges after setting things up :/ (dunno)
[15:45] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, would you still be so kind to execute the command i gave you a little bit up?
[15:45] <LjL> ArcSighter: you didn't actually type all those in a row, did you?
[15:45] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: new one is gigabyte 9400gt
[15:45] <gartral> Picassotamus: just two, but curiously, both assigned IRQ 11
[15:46] <Picassotamus> gartral: That might be your problem
[15:46] <Picassotamus> gartral: what about /proc/asound/modules ?
[15:46] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: fearing problem with disk space i deleted a lot of data (not system) files
[15:46] <un|matrix> who can i talk to about implementing an option to nautilus?
[15:46] <jatt> ok I found the article "Running X Without Root Privileges" will take a look at it. I don't feel safe with a large application like X running as root.
[15:46] <gartral> Picassotamus: great, and with that glorified clocksetter of a BIOS, no easy way to fix it
[15:46] <He-man> Why would a new drive, external sata, not be recognised by my computer?
[15:47] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: so i have more than enough disk space now
[15:47] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, ok
[15:47] <NoobGuest> he-man: is it unformatted?
[15:47] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: may be i need to refresh the system
[15:47] <He-man> NoobGuest: Yes.  How do I format it?
[15:47] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: but i did not find the commands for that in forums
[15:47] <ArcSighter> LjL: sorry if haven't following what I've used is sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=1024 count=16; sudo parted /dev/sdc mklabel msdos
[15:47] <un|matrix> jatt: X won't have direct rendering if you run it without root privileges
[15:47] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, please execute the command i gave you before first. I do have an idea which might be the cause of it, but i'd prefer to check it first.
[15:47] <NoobGuest> He-man there are several different methods
[15:48] <gartral> Picassotamus: i see 2 devices, though, different than whats in my machine
[15:48] <Picassotamus> gartral: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/default-sound-card-in-ubuntu-564006/   Shows you how to blacklist sound cards
[15:48] <NoobGuest> He-man: the easiest is probably to use gparted
[15:48] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: could you be so kind and repet th command
[15:48] <molgrum> hi i installed Wubi and i got a folder "E:\ubuntu\disks\boot\grub", but nothing is in there.. is something wrong?
[15:48] <un|matrix> molgrum: did you restart?
[15:48] <He-man> NoobGuest:  Okay.  do I do that through Terminal?
[15:48] <molgrum> i believe i should have a menu.lst there
[15:48] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, most certainly. ==> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[15:48] <LjL> ArcSighter: err, actually i wasn't following your issue, i was just asking about the floodbot muting you - from here it appeared that you typed a lot of stuff very quickly
[15:48] <ArcSighter> LjL: so I was wrong?
[15:49] <djpetr> please for help
[15:49] <NoobGuest> He-man: that would be the easiest way for me to direct you
[15:49] <FernandoF> cat~
[15:49] <jatt> ok
[15:49] <NoobGuest> He-man: it will open a GUI
[15:49] <molgrum> un|matrix: yes, and it starts the splash screen and everything but then i get "kicked" out to some text-only ram mode
[15:49] <NoobGuest> He-man: are you root?
[15:49] <Picassotamus> gartral: Onboard soun cards w/ pci sound cards can cause issues, but if you can blacklist that and reboot, you may just be in luck :)
[15:49] <He-man> NoobGuest:  Okay.  I have typed it in, and I have to sudo it?  I should be, but I dont think I am.
[15:49] <NoobGuest> he-man: root is the equivalent of system administrator privileges on windows os
[15:50] <djpetr> kne someone does not find the linux mixsazni counter
[15:50] <NoobGuest> he-man: yes type "sudo gparted"
[15:50] <gartral> Picassotamus: does it matter that these instructions are way old?
[15:50] <He-man> Thanks.  i need to install it NoobGuest.  Ill just try that.
[15:50] <NoobGuest> hmm
[15:50] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: is the sign ==> part of the comand?
[15:50] <NoobGuest> on my version of ubuntu it is already installed
[15:51] <ArcSighter> LjL: I don't know, actually I kept it in the same lines and used pastebin, what actually hapens if that i have a usb drive that doesn't get recognized and i tried /dev/zeroing it, without results, parted's mklabel crashes on segfault, any tips?
[15:51] <gartral> Picassotamus: or, to be more specific, for 7.04, when im running 8.10
[15:51] <djpetr> thank you very
[15:51] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, no, that is to show where the chatting stops and the command starts. The command begins with cat.
[15:51] <LjL> ArcSighter: well, it is "recognized" somehow if you can zero it in the first place
[15:51] <Picassotamus> gartral: year and a half? yeah i guess kinda old.  Well if it were me i would try it... backup your file, then you can always revert
[15:51] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: gr8 thx
[15:51] <He-man> NoobGuest: That is the funny thing.  I dont seem to have the privileges easily enough to do things, although it could have been from downloading things and playing with settings, I dont know for sure.
[15:51] <gartral> Picassotamus: no way to back up...
[15:52] <He-man> NoobGuest: It is loading though.
[15:52] <LjL> ArcSighter: (excuse the CTCP, i needed to check your lag)
[15:52] <NoobGuest> he-man: but it said you do not have root privileges?
[15:53] <He-man> If I type sudo, it gives me root.  The only thing that caused me grief was the antivirus "Clam" where it says to upload new signatures, and then says I can't cos I am not root
[15:53] <SM411> Anyone that can help me add winxp in menu.lst please ? Feel free to PM me.
[15:53] <LjL> He-man: can you tell me exactly what you're trying and what the response is?
[15:53] <zilleplus_> can't get internet on new ubuntu server 8.10 can aanyone help (sudo route -nee shows not IP ore gateway)
[15:53] <ahmed> hey
[15:54] <Picassotamus> gartral: ?  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base is a text file... i didn't mean your whole system :)
[15:54] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: i done it and had a long message ....can you say what you ar looking for
[15:54] <NoobGuest> he-man: im probably not the best to tell you about that because as my name reflects I am a noob.
[15:54] <He-man> LjL: I am uploading gparted, so I can see my external hard drive, which I bought today.  I plan to download a new Ubuntu on it, and remove the old one.
[15:54] <chronic> zilleplus: u have wireless?
[15:54] <zilleplus_> no
[15:54] <zilleplus_> lan
[15:54] <zilleplus_> on router with this comp
[15:54] <gartral> Picassotamus: ahh, wellll.. ya did say "filesystem" lol
[15:54] <He-man> NoobGuest:  Well, thanks for your help anyway mate.
[15:54] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, the output should be very short. What i'm specifically looking for is the part that says Driver nvidia or something else after that.
[15:54] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: i have message returned from command
[15:55] <LjL> He-man: err? i meant about Clam, i have no idea about other issues you're having...
[15:55] <chronic> zilleplus: your router running dhcp?
[15:55] <zilleplus_> yes
[15:55] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, could you please type it?
[15:55] <zilleplus_> but he does not show anny other IP adress ore this one
[15:55] <SM411> Anyone here that know who to edit menu.lst?
[15:55] <BlackCoffee> !compiz-fusion
[15:55] <He-man> LjL.  Sorry mate.  I was trying to update the signatures, as it told me somewhere that they were outdated, and another place says there are none, so I click "update signatures" and it says I am not root.
[15:56] <LjL> SM411: i do. are you sure you *want* to edit it, if you don't know *how* to edit a text file in the first place?
[15:56] <zilleplus_> can't get internet on new ubuntu server 8.10 can aanyone help (sudo route -nee shows not IP ore gateway)
[15:56] <gartral> lupin: what are you PMing me for?
[15:56] <chronic> zilleplus: does the network manager show any eth devices?
[15:56] <gartral> !pm > lupin
[15:56] <zilleplus_> manager from router??
[15:56] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: it s very long with Section Device, Section Monitor and Section Screen ...do you want it all?
[15:56] <SM411> I know how to edit it, but im not sure how to add another OS into it, LjL
[15:56] <chronic> zilleplus: no, on the computer
[15:56] <zilleplus_> trouter show IP from this comp but nothing else
[15:56] <zilleplus_> on the comp??
[15:56] <djpetr> jeste potrebuju one assist as DAJA on linux ainstalovat games and Jake soutam shooting
[15:57] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, Ah. The command didn't stop with the |, but continued afterwards. The full command is as follows
[15:57] <chronic> zilleplus: so u get the ip but can't connect to the net?
[15:57] <LjL> SM411: have you tried just "sudo update-grub"?
[15:57] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[15:57] <zilleplus_> i don't get IP ore internet
[15:57] <LjL> He-man: uhm, the signatures should get updated automatically and periodically anyway... let me have a look though
[15:58] <He-man> LjL.  Go for it mate.  Thanks.
[15:58] <SM411> I tried that now, it didnt find my win xp
[15:58] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: Section Screen has Identifier "Default Screen" Monitor "Configured monitor" and Device "Configured videi device"
[15:58] <zilleplus_> chronic wath shell i do
[15:58] <LjL> SM411: ok, i need to know what partition your windows xp is on
[15:58] <gartral> Picassotamus: according to that file, i have 8 sound cards, does it load a driver per audio jack, or is this something i need too look at?
[15:58] <djpetr> and please advice on how to install wine
[15:58] <chronic> type in ifconfig
[15:58] <chronic> zilleplus: type in ifconfig
[15:58] <zilleplus_> yes wath information do you want from it
[15:59] <djpetr> Thanks a lot
[15:59] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, the driver part is the one i'm interested in.
[15:59] <zilleplus_> i net addr: 127.0.0.1
[15:59] <chronic> zilleplus: any eth devices listed?
[15:59] <zilleplus_> no
[15:59] <Picassotamus> gartral: i don't know sorry : /
[15:59] <SM411> Its on a disk called 90,3 GB medie, shal i mount it?
[15:59] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: answer nothing
[15:59] <FernandoF> ns3r3n1t7: no answer
[16:00] <gartral> lupin: ive tryed to gentally nudge you, but now ima be direct, ITS RUDE too pm people randomly!
[16:00] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: just return the command line again
[16:00] <BlackCoffee> !conky
[16:00] <chronic> zilleplus: looks like it didnt find ur lancard, prob doesnt have a driver for it
[16:00] <BlackCoffee> how do i disable conky?
[16:00] <LjL> He-man: try "sudo freshclam" from the console
[16:00] <zilleplus_> can't get internet on new ubuntu server 8.10 can aanyone help (sudo route -nee shows not IP ore gateway)
[16:01] <Pici> BlackCoffee: kill its process.
[16:01] <SM411> LjL, Its on a disk called 90,3 GB medie, shal i mount it?
[16:01] <FernandoF> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Device
[16:01] <He-man> LjL: Thanks.  Will do.
[16:01] <BlackCoffee> i c
[16:01] <BlackCoffee> thanks
[16:01] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: forgot to put your name please check it up
[16:02] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, i see. Then it should be ok. A last question, what was your old card and what is your new card? version numbers please
[16:02] <He-man> LjL:  It says it is outdated, and database is updated.  Also tells me to read something on support and frequently asked questions.
[16:02] <chronic> zilleplus: u prob will need to install the driver manually, how?, i dont know
[16:02] <zilleplus_> can't get internet on new ubuntu server 8.10 can aanyone help (sudo route -nee shows not IP ore gateway)
[16:02] <LjL> He-man: well, try again loading the graphical interface and see if it still complains about the signatures now
[16:03] <arvind_khadri> zilleplus, add the default gateway to the table
[16:03] <zilleplus_> wath do you mean??
[16:03] <He-man> LjL:  Okay.
[16:03] <chronic> arvind_khadri: he doesnt have any eth devices listed
[16:03] <He-man> LjL:  It tells me I must be root to upload signatures.
[16:03] <arvind_khadri> chronic, ohh i havent been following
[16:03] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: while i check it for you, i must say that this errors were in sequence of blind deletion with KleenSweep of empty files and directories
[16:04] <arvind_khadri> zilleplus, do sudo ifconfig -a
[16:04] <intangir> i have an issue with flash 10, i have firefox 3.03, flash 10 and ubuntu 8.04. even though shockwave flash appears on the plugin list, and on about:plugins. it wont play flash, the area where flash goes is empty
[16:04] <LjL> He-man: to *upload*? uhm, anyway what is it that you have installed for a GUI - "avscan"?
[16:04] <zilleplus_> i did tath
[16:05] <zilleplus_> now i see my to divices
[16:05] <zilleplus_> 1 on does no do annything
[16:05] <SM411> LjL: The win xp disk is under /media/disk
[16:05] <LjL> SM411: that's the mount point, i need to know the device - like /dev/sdsomething
[16:05] <ChrizC> hey, I'm on 8.10 and my task bars have decided to re-arrange themselves (e.g. my wastebin icon is now in the centre of my lower bar, and my login/logout button's swapped with my process icons), how can I revert this back to default?
[16:05] <LjL> SM411: you can probably find out by doing "mount"
[16:05] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, give me a second to check that software.
[16:06] <He-man> LjL:  avscan?  Oh, clamtk.  And sorry, it was install updates.
[16:06] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7:  my actual video card is "GIGABYTE 9400 GT 512MB GDDR2 PCI EXPRESS 2.0"
[16:06] <zilleplus_> 2the one who is on my router has inet adrr=127.0.0.1 mask 255.0.0.0
[16:06] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, and which one is your old one?
[16:06] <chronic> zilleplus: so now u have an eth device?
[16:06] <zilleplus_> yes
[16:06] <LjL> He-man: tried starting clamtk with "gksudo clamtk"?
[16:06] <zilleplus_> RX bytes:37189 wath is ath
[16:06] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: NOT SURE BUT SAME PCI EXPRESS NVIDEA 128 MB
[16:06] <gartral> Picassotamus: good thing we didnt try to set the bios, ubuntu 8.10 overrides bios and activates all availible hardware
[16:06] <He-man> LjL:  No.  I will try it though.  What does the gk stand for?
[16:06] <zilleplus_> woh do i get it to the internet
[16:07] <LjL> !gksudo | he-man
[16:07] <zilleplus_> Link encap: local loopback
[16:07] <gartral> FernandoF: please stop using capslock
[16:07] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, you used the program kleen sweep?
[16:07] <chronic> zilleplus: specify the default gateway and maybe the dns too in the network manager
[16:07] <hybr1der> hi im trying to setup a hp printer but i get an error : warning: Qt/PyQt 4 initialization failed.
[16:07] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: sorry for accidental caps lock
[16:07] <baye> hi
[16:07] <He-man> LjL:  It tells me bash:  !gksudo :  event not found
[16:08] <zilleplus_> chronic wath do you mean
[16:08] <LjL> He-man: err, it's "gksudo clamtk", with no !
[16:08] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, no problem. Please try to answer the questions if you can. You used the program kleen sweep?
[16:08] <chronic> zilleplus_: default gateway is the ip address of ur router
[16:08] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: not my style screeming on people. ...
[16:08] <hybr1der> anyone knows how i can get Qt/PyQt 4 ?
[16:08] <zilleplus_> http://192.168.0.1/
[16:08] <baye> i speak french can you help me?
[16:08] <zilleplus_> tath is it wath do i do with it
[16:08] <Pici> !fr | baye
[16:08] <ChrizC> hey, I'm on 8.10 and my task bars have decided to re-arrange themselves (e.g. my wastebin icon is now in the centre of my lower bar, and my login/logout button's swapped with my process icons), how can I revert this back to default?
[16:08] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: yes i used and troubles were just after!
[16:08] <He-man> LjL:  Oops.  Did that, and the interface opens.  I will use the interface to try the update again, but I don't like my chances.
[16:09] <Avaddon> Hi everyone! Is it possible to make Envy ork with Intrepid?
[16:09] <chronic> zilleplus: dns ip address , u can use 4.2.2.2 4.2.2.3 ot look up the opendns ips, or just use ur isp provided dns
[16:09] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: and it seems i deleted empty files and directories important
[16:09] <He-man> LjL:  Well, I was wrong, it updated the signatures.  Thanks a lot mate.
[16:09] <zilleplus_> how do i do tath!!
[16:10] <baye> thank yu for z help
[16:10] <baye> #ubuntu-fr
[16:10] <chronic> zilleplus_: there should be a network manager icon by the clock, righ click it and configure
[16:10] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, it would seem so. From what i've seem about this piece of software it has caused some issues on gnome based systems, however the reason why isn't clear. The only solution that it does give would be to back up your /home and reinstall it. =<
[16:11] <zilleplus_> its server edition!! terminal only
[16:11] <chronic> zilleplus_: oh
[16:11] <tan_> yes?
[16:12] <chronic> zilleplus_: edit resolv.conf
[16:12] <FernandoF> isnt there a command to make it?
[16:12] <SM411> LjL, i finaly figured it out. Its called sdb5
[16:12] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: is nt there a command to do it?
[16:12] <chronic> zilleplus_: should be in e
[16:12] <chronic> zilleplus_: etc
[16:12] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: I can assume the risk
[16:12] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, i'm afraid not. LjL had a situation where it'd be very useful to be able to set the system back to a fresh install, but i'm not sure if he found a way.
[16:13] <chronic> zilleplus_: add dns to resolv.conf
[16:13] <zilleplus_> s"earching file
[16:13] <tan_>  how to login linux at a windows system
[16:13] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: i saw a forum with that proposal as well
[16:13] <Pici> zilleplus_: /etc/resolv.conf
[16:13] <chronic> zilleplus_: and you lan config should be in etc/network  interfaces file
[16:13] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: i think it was from Ljl yes
[16:14] <zilleplus_> i found it
[16:14] <ChrizC> hey, I'm on 8.10 and my task bars have decided to re-arrange themselves (e.g. my wastebin icon is now in the centre of my lower bar, and my login/logout button's swapped with my process icons), how can I revert this back to default?
[16:14] <zilleplus_> nameserver 192.186.0.1
[16:14] <He-man> I am about to format a new external harddrive.  Which file system should I create it as?
[16:14] <chronic> zilleplus_: change irt
[16:14] <zilleplus_> to wath
[16:15] <Pubnum> Hey guys, I encounted a huge bug on ubuntu 9 64 bit
[16:15] <gartral> Picassotamus: ok, per your instruction (aside from total reboot, just sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart) it seems to have removed the offending card from use
[16:15] <chronic> zilleplus_: ur rother ip if it does dns forwarding, if not, use the ips i gave u
[16:15] <murlidhar> how to set the default file-manager when i have multiple file-managers ?
[16:15] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: so what would be your final recomendation : despite i am a bald fifthy old man please be parient and explain me as i was a young blond girl
[16:15] <Pubnum> someone care to help me figure this out?
[16:15] <chronic> zilleplus_: router
[16:15] <zilleplus_> yes
[16:15] <baye> #ubuntu-fr
[16:15] <Mr_Pink> !jaunty | Pubnum
[16:16] <zilleplus_> dhcp server is on on router and gice not the ip
[16:16] <He-man> I might change my name to something more clear for others to understand my lack of knowledge of Ubuntu.  How do I change nick?
[16:16] <Nanobat> My graphics card just died, and I'm trying to get back to my Linux desktop with my on-board graphics. I can bring up the login screen, but it always crashes when I try to get to the desktop. This is true with a fresh new user account, too. Can anyone help?
[16:16] <SM411> LjL, i finaly figured it out. Its called sdb5
[16:16] <murlidhar> how to set the default file-manager when i have multiple file-managers ?
[16:16] <chronic> zilleplus_: say what do u mean?
[16:16] <zash> murlidhar: in gnome?
[16:16] <tan_> me?
[16:17] <baye> help help i try to joined #ubuntu-fr but i dont know how
[16:17] <Pici> !who
[16:17] <LjL> SM411: so pastebin your current menu.lst, i'll see if i can add a sane entry for it
[16:17] <murlidhar> zash: in openbox session
[16:17] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, i have the same amount of patient, no matter what person i am helping. From what i've read about kleen sweep it removes a lot of files, some of those are important to gnome and gnome based programs. However, since i have not used the program i can't say a method to fix this issue. My only recommendation i can make is to back up your important data and give it a fresh installation.
[16:17] <zilleplus_> wel i sudo ifconfig a gives link encap: local loopback
[16:17] <Nanobat> I have also tried the "failsafe GNOME" which also crashes
[16:17] <murlidhar> zash: i don't have gnome of kde installed
[16:17] <wh4vn> Hi all! I install skype on my Ubuntu 8.10, but I cannot make any call, I can hear people say, but they cannot hear me? Someone can give me solution? I also config sound in Skype sound option using Pulse audio
[16:17] <zilleplus_> don't know if thats means sommething
[16:17] <He-man> How do I change my nickname in here?
[16:17] <LjL> He-man: /nick newnick
[16:17] <He-man> LjL:  Thanks.
[16:18] <shredder12> help people.. I am unable to use hping2 in interpid.. whenever i try "hping2 google.com" first of all it always asks for root priviliges and after being root.. it  doesn't receive any packet from google. Actually, I use proxy to access internet.. is hping2 unable to get this proxy address..
[16:18] <murlidhar> zash: and i use pcmanfm and thunar but would like to use pcmanfm as a default file-manager
[16:18] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: i was making some humour ...please do misunderstand me ! You have been very useful and clear! :)
[16:18] <zash> murlidhar: i have no idea then
[16:18] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: do you mean I must have a live CD of UBUNTU and reinstall it all?
[16:18] <HammerHead66> anyone know how to update flash from GUI terminal?
[16:18] <chronic> zilleplus_: zilleplus_ all u get with ifconfig in the pastebin,  give me link
[16:18] <whitebelt-ubuntu> There.  That is more appropriate
[16:19] <LjL> FernandoF: can you explain your problem again for me?
[16:19] <wh4vn> Hi all! I install skype on my Ubuntu 8.10, but I cannot make any call, I can hear people say, but they cannot hear me? Someone can give me solution? I also config sound in Skype sound option using Pulse audio
[16:19] <SM411> LjL, http://pastebin.com/m23416acf
[16:19] <jasballa> holla/harrow
[16:19] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, i'm afraid so, yes. This is the only recommendation i can make at this time, due to not having used the software.
[16:19] <jasballa> looking for developers for http://buddhabuntu.8m.net project and someone to buy the site
[16:19] <wh4vn> any help?
[16:19] <jasballa> need help with opensuse / launchpad?
[16:19] <arvind_khadri> wh4vn, switch over to alsa
[16:19] <jasballa> i need help with opensuse / launchpad
[16:19] <jasballa> And vmware/mac
[16:19] <wh4vn> arvind_khadri: I did
[16:20] <FernandoF> s3r3n1t7: thx a lot  I appreciated your patience clearness and time! I think I will try to get LjL help ....who knows we find a solution? :)
[16:20] <BlackCoffee> wow screenlets rule!
[16:20] <whitebelt-ubuntu> LjL:  Which file system is most beneficial for Ubuntu to run on my computer?
[16:20] <s3r3n1t7> FernandoF, who knows. If you happen to find one, please drop me a note in a PM.
[16:20] <shredder12> Need help people.. I am unable to use hping2 in interpid.. whenever i try "hping2 google.com" first of all it always asks for root priviliges and after being root.. it keeps on sending packets but doesn't receive any  from google. Actually, I use proxy to access internet.. is hping2 unable to get this proxy address.. help. plzz....
[16:20] <baye> #ubuntu-fr
[16:20] <arvind_khadri> wh4vn, have you made sure that you dont revert back to it
[16:20] <chronic> zilleplus_: got iy?
[16:21] <chronic> zilleplus_: it
[16:21] <HammerHead66> ﻿ anyone know how to update flash from GUI terminal?
[16:21] <ikonia> HammerHead66: you install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[16:21] <LjL> SM411: please give me also the output of "sudo grep sdb /boot/grub/device.map"
[16:21] <wh4vn> arvind_khadri: yes, I've tried many times
[16:21] <ikonia> HammerHead66: if there is an update available, update-manager will offer it to you
[16:21] <wh4vn> :(
[16:22] <LjL> whitebelt-ubuntu: how would i know?
[16:22] <FernandoF> LjL: my computer works fine doing management of printers . I can access root commandline and I can access shared files from outside over network
[16:22] <HammerHead66> ﻿ikonia: I wanted to know the GUI command if anyone knew it
[16:22] <FernandoF> LjL: but all users get error message while trying to get in
[16:22] <ikonia> HammerHead66: I just told you the gui command
[16:22] <murlidhar> how to set the default file-manager when i have multiple file-managers ?
[16:22] <whitebelt-ubuntu> LjL:  Im not sure.  I have a new drive, and I am formatting it, and there is no NTFS, which is all I know apart from the FAT system.
[16:22] <FernandoF> LjL: "session lasted less than 10 seconds"
[16:22] <LjL> FernandoF: you mean when logging into a shell, or logging into X, or logging into the printer management?
[16:22] <zilleplus_> http://pastebin.com/d56bbe78
[16:22] <HammerHead66> ﻿ikonia: in the GUI terminal
[16:22] <ikonia> HammerHead66: you install the package flashplugin-nonfree using the gui package manager - if there are updates available the update-manager GUI will offer it to you
[16:23] <zilleplus_> http://pastebin.com/d56bbe78   chronic
[16:23] <ikonia> HammerHead66: that is a gui command
[16:23] <baye> comment fait-on pour se conneter sur #ubuntu-fr
[16:23] <baye> help
[16:23] <SM411> LjL (hd1)	/dev/sdb
[16:23] <baye> pliz
[16:23] <Pici> baye: /join #ubuntu-fr
[16:23] <LjL> whitebelt-ubuntu: if you need to share it with windows, either ntfs or ext3.
[16:23] <ikonia> HammerHead66: the gui package manager is called synaptic in ubuntu
[16:23] <FernandoF> LjL: i think it was due to cleanage of empty files and directorires with KlenSweep
[16:23] <C_Kode> Anyone figure out how to fix the crackling sound using intel audio cards?
[16:23] <whitebelt-ubuntu> LjL: Thanks for that.
[16:23] <LjL> SM411: try with this menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/139053/
[16:23] <|ntegra|> jubilee!!
[16:23] <LjL> whitebelt-ubuntu: i'd probably use NTFS personally, but that's just me. you can read ext3 from Windows, and you can read NTFS from Linux, so...
[16:23] <murlidhar> LjL: how to set the default file-manager when i have multiple file-managers ?
[16:24] <HammerHead66> ﻿ikonia: it's ok I do think you understand what I'm asking it's ok..
[16:24] <murlidhar> LjL: any idea ?
[16:24] <chronic> zilleplus_: yup, u dont have any lancards installed, need drivers
[16:24] <zilleplus_> ooh
[16:24] <zilleplus_> how do i do tath
[16:24] <FernandoF> LjL: i think i can not get a X and not Print Management ... I access resources from outside over my network
[16:24] <LjL> murlidhar: you need to change the "inode/directory" and "inode/system_directory" filetypes, but i'm a KDE user so i don't know how that's done from GNOME
[16:24] <murlidhar> LjL: as far as i remember it can be set using update-alternatives
[16:25] <FernandoF> LjL: i think after error i get on a shall
[16:25] <LjL> FernandoF: try creating a brand new user with "sudo adduser username", and see if that one can log in
[16:25] <murlidhar> LjL: also i am not using gnome or kde ... just openbox
[16:25] <HammerHead66> ikonia: what your are saying is right to get the new flash update it's just not the way I was hoping to find out
[16:25] <FernandoF> LjL: so you mean "sudo update-alternatives" ?
[16:25] <chronic> zilleplus_: find out what your lancards is and google linux driver for it
[16:25] <ikonia> HammerHead66: what do you want to know ?
[16:25] <LjL> murlidhar: i have no idea, but i doubt it can be done with update-alternatives honestly
[16:25] <zilleplus_> is there a command for it??
[16:26] <chronic> zilleplus_: you will need to find a guide
[16:26] <LjL> FernandoF: ... no?
[16:26] <murlidhar> LjL: hmm okies i actually forgot the exact command cuz i remember doing it for hardy
[16:26] <LjL> FernandoF: i mean what i said, "sudo adduser username"
[16:26] <zilleplus_> chronic i ever installed it without neeting it
[16:26] <ArcSighter1> ikonia: you were helping me a while ago, we were doing some debugging tests on intrepid, remember?
[16:26] <ikonia> ArcSighter1: yes, I remember
[16:26] <HammerHead66> ﻿ikonia: I'm looking for the GUI Terminal command
[16:26] <ubuntu_> fagots
[16:26] <chronic> zilleplus_: you will have to do it manually, there will be bunch of commands thats why u neeed a guide
[16:27] <ikonia> HammerHead66: what gui termina ?
[16:27] <ArcSighter1> ikonia: So, when we could get itcompleted
[16:27] <FernandoF> LjL: on the way... please hold
[16:27] <ikonia> ArcSighter1: pointless starting anything now as I'm about to leave
[16:27] <ikonia> HammerHead66: do you mean the command line ?
[16:27] <SM411> Lol, i dont have right to change boot on my own computer
[16:27] <wh4vn> some one success with skype on Ubuntu?
[16:27] <zilleplus_> yes
[16:27] <wh4vn> plase help me
[16:27] <ArcSighter1> ikonia: I've downgraded to hardy, but I can't stick to hardy on workstation quite a long time
[16:27] <LjL> SM411: you need to use sudo. "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[16:27] <LjL> !sudo > SM411    (SM411, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:27] <ikonia> ArcSighter1: I can't do anyting at the moment I'm afraid
[16:28] <whitebelt-ubuntu> LjL:  What does the gk mean in certain commands?
[16:28] <murlidhar> ikonia: any idea how to set default file manager .... like when some application opens a folder i need that application to open my default file-manager
[16:28] <chronic> zilleplus_: open your interfaces file and see if u see ant eth devices there
[16:28] <HammerHead66> ﻿ikonia: desktop  text upper left side /Applications/Accressories/Terminal
[16:28] <ikonia> HammerHead66: ok - so thats teh command line
[16:28] <ArcSighter1> ikonia: I wasn't talking at the moment, neither can I, I was just asking if we can schedule a day to do it
[16:28] <JohnTeddy> WHat is the pytz package name on ubuntu? I do apt-cache search pytz and I can't find anything.
[16:28] <ikonia> HammerHead66: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:28] <LjL> whitebelt-ubuntu: i don't know, i think it's just short for "gtk" but i might be mistaken. anyway the only such command i know about is gksudo
[16:28] <gartral> wh4vn: yea, im pretty far
[16:28] <ikonia> ArcSighter1: just catch me when I'm next on
[16:28] <whitebelt-ubuntu> LjL:  Thanks.
[16:28] <gartral> wh4vn: whats your prob, sound coming in and not going out?
[16:29] <whitebelt-ubuntu> Wow, my new room.  Im moving in folks:P
[16:29] <murlidhar> !info pytz
[16:29] <wh4vn> gartral: exactly my problem
[16:29] <ArcSighter1> ikonia: Sorry, I didn't follow that
[16:29] <aljosa> anybody knows if 9.04 will ship with ati/amd drivers? i'm using jaunty on imac7,1 and current drivers are pretty bad.
[16:29] <wh4vn> gartral: can you help me solve this problem?
[16:29] <ikonia> ArcSighter1: grab me next time I'm on the channel and we'll work it through
[16:29] <iceroot> aljosa: only open-source-drivers
[16:29] <murlidhar> !jaunty | aljosa
[16:30] <chronic> zilleplus_: if ur lan card is installed u will see sometyhing like    eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1a:84:76:63:36
[16:30] <HammerHead66> ﻿ikonia: your the man!
[16:30] <HammerHead66> ﻿ikonia: ty
[16:30] <ikonia> no problem
[16:30] <chronic> zilleplus_: with the ifconfig
[16:30] <gartral> wh4vn: ahh, you need too blacklist the sound card you dont want to use (assuming you have two, like me) theres two ways, you can either simply remove your PCI card, and use the internal, or, you can a file and restart alsa, wich is what i did
[16:30] <spill> anyone know of a good program to create DVD's from .avi?
[16:31] <zilleplus_> primary network interfaces    auto eth1  iface eth1 inet dhcp
[16:31] <clinicalbear> join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:31] <chronic> zilleplus_: try this,  sudo ath1 up
[16:31] <murlidhar> zilleplus_: else check ifconfig u may see eth0 or eth1 to make sure ur lan card is working .. i mean the drivers are loaded
[16:31] <ArcSighter1> ikonia: Ok I'll do that, It's needed to install intrepid on some partition, or we can do usb-live testing?
[16:31] <chronic> zilleplus_: try this,  sudo eth1 up
[16:31] <FernandoF> b
[16:31] <ikonia> ArcSighter1: install would be better
[16:32] <chronic> zilleplus_: try this,  sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[16:32] <murlidhar> how to set the default file-manager when i have multiple file-managers ?
[16:32] <spill> anyone know of a good program to create DVD's from .avi?
[16:32] <jasballa> I need hdd vmware driver for install windows 7
[16:32] <zilleplus_> interface flags: No such device
[16:32] <Ienorand> Is it possible to test out a custom kernel (available as package) when booting a livecd? If so. How?
[16:32] <ikonia> Ienorand: no
[16:33] <ikonia> Ienorand: you've have to make your own livecd
[16:33] <mrwes> spill: DeVeDe
[16:33] <zilleplus_> wath now??
[16:33] <chronic> zilleplus_: yeah , pretty much like i said, i think u need tio install the driver
[16:33] <Ienorand> ikonia: Would I be able to do that in windows? What software?
[16:33] <spill> mrwes: cool, I'll check it out. thanks.
[16:33] <ikonia> Ienorand: no
[16:34] <the_dark_warrio> I'm using a laptop with another display attached to it and I wanted to know if it is possible to ubuntu auto configure the dual-monitor on boot, because I have to do it manually every time.
[16:34] <ArcSighter1> ikonia: Since I've downgraded to hardy, I was trying to do the tests without installing to determine the problem and then wait for jaunty
[16:34] <zilleplus_> okey
[16:34] <ikonia> Ienorand: the fact that your asking this meanas you probably shouldn't do it
[16:34] <mrwes> spill, np -- believe you can do some simple menus too
[16:34] <FernandoF> LjL: created a new user as you recommended ... and got same mesage "session lasted less than 10 seconds"
[16:34] <cj> any of you folks know where I can get an intrepid hyper-v vhd?
[16:34] <ikonia> cj: a what ?
[16:34] <cj> ikonia: hyper-v virtual host image
[16:35] <cj> vhd = virtual hard drive
[16:35] <ikonia> cj: I have no idea what hyper v is
[16:35] <LjL> FernandoF: but your own user can log in? that's kind of weird
[16:35] <janedoe_> I just installed 8.04 Desktop on an older Dell and after login it seems to just stop with an active mouse pointer and a plain tan screen.  Any ideas?
[16:35] <FernandoF> LjL: do you want i list some details from file ~/.xsession-errors?
[16:35] <grawity> ikonia: it's a hypervisor, kind of like a virtual machine.
[16:35] <cj> ikonia: windows server 2008's native virtualization infrastructure
[16:35] <murlidhar>  cj: you made me laugh ... :D
[16:35] <ikonia> cj: ask the windows guys
[16:35] <LjL> FernandoF: yes please. also /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:36] <cj> ikonia: I am the windows guys.  I don't need a windows vhd, I need an intrepid vhd
[16:36] <cj> murlidhar: thanks.  tell mark to distribute jaunty in .vhd :)
[16:36] <ikonia> cj: yes but the people who manage windows servers will probably know more than people who don't
[16:36] <grawity> cj: I don't think you can find one - unless you install Intrepid yourself.
[16:36] <murlidhar> cj: google it perhaps
[16:36] <cj> grawity: I was hoping that wasn't the case :)
[16:36] <ikonia> cj: ask the guys in ##windows-server maybe
[16:36] <cj> murlidhar: yeah, tried that :)
[16:36] <cj> ikonia: okay, thanks.
[16:36] <ArcSighter1> cj: Xen?
[16:37] <Ienorand> ikonia: yes i should, that's why I'm asking... but anyhow, I'm going through some testing for a bug which seems to reside in kernel somewhere, and since I am experiencing the bug the testing has to be done on my side... although I don't know what the underlying things are doesn't mean I can follow debugging/testing instructions....
[16:37] <murlidhar> cj: .vhd files ? what software uses it
[16:37] <cj> ArcSighter1: kinda
[16:37] <grawity> cj: Do you really expect a Linux distro to be distributed for a Microsoft virtual machine?
[16:37] <cj> murlidhar: hyper-v
[16:37] <grawity> murlidhar: Hyper-V and VirtualPC.
[16:37] <cj> grawity: yes
[16:37] <grawity> ArcSighter1: Kind of.
[16:37] <Ienorand> *can't
[16:37] <grawity> cj: Lol.
[16:37] <ikonia> Ienorand: building your own CD with a custom kernel is not a "beginner" type of thing
[16:37] <cj> grawity: some folks aren't haters :)
[16:37] <Ferchault> hello - I observed some strange behaviour concerning my DVD drive and burning. Simplified: after burning a DVD the tray won't open anymore. I need some assistance to track down the exact error. More details at http://guido.vonrudorff.de/dvd-tray-problems.txt
[16:37] <murlidhar> cj: so hyper-v could be run in linux ?
[16:37] <BlackCoffee> what's the best rss widget for screenlets?clearrss seems to be a little lame for me
[16:37] <grawity> cj: I like both.
[16:38] <ikonia> Ferchault: sudo eject cdrom
[16:38] <FernandoF> LjL: details start " /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... no profile found for user 'fernando2'"
[16:38] <grawity> murlidhar: No, Linux runs in Hyper-V.
[16:38] <Icebuntu> hey hi murlidhar
[16:38]  * Ienorand mumbles and goes off howto-hunting instead...
[16:38] <murlidhar> Icebuntu: hi
[16:38] <cj> murlidhar: no, hyper-v only runs on win2k8
[16:38]  * Icebuntu love ya all murlidhar will see ya on im and fb 
[16:38] <LjL> FernandoF: oh. that starts to make sense. do you have an /etc/profile file?
[16:38] <Ferchault> ikonia: tried that already (see link) - won't work unless executing ioctl(fd, CDROM_LOCKDOOR, 0);
[16:38] <FernandoF> LjL: and after it has  a MILESTONES SESSION and a RING BUFFER
[16:38] <cj> murlidhar: similar to kvm only running on linux.  deep integration with the kernel
[16:39] <grawity> cj: Btw, does Hyper-V even work with Ubuntu? I know VirtualPC 2k7 doesn't, unless you use some deep magic.
[16:39] <muibe> now i went and upgraded into Jaunty beta and I must say that it was one of the most foolish things to do as I found out it was nowhere near something that I could call 'Alpha' - i'm sorry guys for saying this but I'm forced to reinstall the whole system..
[16:39] <cj> grawity: yes.  I've been running etch, lenny, sid and intrepid on hyper-v for about 6 months
[16:40] <alemao> Hi!
[16:40] <murlidhar> cj: so it might be better if you ask in the win2k8 support channel but i don't think u might get help for ubuntu .vhd file
[16:40] <cj> murlidhar: okay.  thanks anyhow :)
[16:40] <osubuck_> i'll wait for the final 9.04 to switch from fedora
[16:40] <murlidhar> cj: did u try filetype:.vhd in google ?
[16:40] <FernandoF> LjL: and it hasa  final section saying "This configuration for the debug log can be receated by putting the folloying ~/sabayon-debug-log.conf
[16:40] <cj> murlidhar: no.  thanks
[16:40] <LjL> FernandoF: ... sabayon?
[16:40] <grawity> murlidhar: That wouldn't work, I think.
[16:41] <ArcSighter1> cj: try some solution from vmware guys
[16:41] <muibe> Jockey doesn't even work here in Jaunty Beta!!!
[16:41] <LjL> !jaunty | muibe
[16:42] <muibe> ubottu: thanks for advice :)
[16:42] <FernandoF> LjL: MILESTONES and RING BUFFER report to /usr/sbin/sabayon-apply
[16:42] <murlidhar> how to set a default file-manager using command line ?
[16:43] <SM411> LjL, it didnt work
[16:43] <LjL> FernandoF: ok, so i assume you have sabayon installed?
[16:43] <znh> Hello people. I'm currently using Kubuntu's LiveCD.. yet It does not seem to have flash player support in konqueror. does someone know how to get flash player support? The end result I'm focusing at is playing Youtube video's.. I don't care how
[16:43] <LjL> SM411: any specific errors?
[16:43] <FernandoF> LjL: i can list error list of this sessions here for your info
[16:43] <LjL> FernandoF: pastebin them please
[16:44] <SM411> Something with wrong device
[16:44] <SM411> Cant remember
[16:44] <FernandoF> LjL: sorry ...It seems yes
[16:44] <FernandoF> LjL: but I do not know wht it is and for what
[16:45] <LjL> FernandoF: alright, please pastebin both your xsession log and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:45] <ChrizC> hey, I'm on 8.10 and my task bars have decided to re-arrange themselves (e.g. my wastebin icon is now in the centre of my lower bar, and my login/logout button's swapped with my process icons), how can I revert this back to default?
[16:46] <LjL> !resetpanel | ChrizC
[16:48] <ArcSighter1> BTW  I have a issue using parted, I setted count=16 bs=1024 to dev-zero a usb drive and then parted mklabel msdos It crashes
[16:48] <LjL> SM411: pastebin the output of "mount"
[16:48] <HammerHead66> anyone know where you go to see your hardware test results at?
[16:48] <qaxx> if i do an apt-get install package where does the package go?  I had one that failed half way through and I'm trying to do a dpkg -i but dunno where it's stored
[16:48] <ChrizC> thanks lots LjL.
[16:48] <LjL> HammerHead66: http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/ but they'll be anonymous
[16:48] <grawity> ArcSighter1: It's a problem with the system itself, I think.
[16:48] <Ferchault> ikonia: do you have an idea where I may find any information or help concerning the DVD tray issue?
[16:48] <HammerHead66> ﻿LjL: ty I couldn't find it
[16:48] <grawity> ArcSighter1: "Stack smashing detected" usually comes from some kind of security app.
[16:48] <ikonia> Ferchault: have you tried "sudo eject cdrom " ?
[16:49] <Ferchault> ikonia: yes, but it won't work unless executing ioctl(fd, CDROM_LOCKDOOR, 0); (C code) before calling eject
[16:49] <ArcSighter1> grawity: actually "Stack smashing detected" is the stack overflow protection built into gcc's libc_fortify
[16:49] <ArcSighter1> grawity: it's crashing
[16:49] <ArcSighter1> grawity: gparted does too
[16:49] <syntac> hi, i installed scorched-3d but it is an older version. how can i get the most up to date version? (even jaunty doesn't have the most recent)
[16:50] <SM411> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139068/
[16:50] <hecklingfext> register marvin17
[16:51] <LjL> SM411: uhm, are you sure your Windows boot partition isn't /dev/sda1 (the "750GB" one) rather than sda5?
[16:51] <SM411> Yes, im sure
[16:51] <SM411> 750GB is for file storage
[16:51] <LjL> uhm, ok
[16:51] <SM411> Other is a raport, that ii use for OS
[16:51] <SM411> 10 000rpm disk
[16:53] <LjL> SM411: windows sometimes has trouble when installed on a non-primary partition, it might just be that. i'm not sure though
[16:53] <Paxt> Hello Darth_ :)
[16:53] <SM411> Would it be easyer to add Ubuntu too the windows boot?
[16:53] <LjL> SM411: i think it might be worth asking in ##windows to rule out that possibility
[16:54] <LjL> SM411: i don't know
[16:54] <FernandoF> LjL: "[16:55] <Paxt> FernandoF: is that like python ? sure looks like it
[16:55] <FernandoF> LjL: (;) stnda for new line
[16:56] <qaxx> anyone have experience with running duplicity on ubuntu ec2 beta?  i've never used duplicity and need to know how reliable it is
[16:56] <Paxt> FernandoF: I see the debugging nightmare :) "Fatal exception! Exiting abnormally. (;)"
[16:56] <FernandoF> LjL:  only misses SystemExit:0 before END MILESTONES
[16:57] <intangir> when i right click a folder and share it.. what is actually sharing that folder? how can i share somthing in this manner without a gui
[16:57] <intangir> i checked the samba config and theres no new lines for the thing i just shared
[16:57] <rbd> hey guys. I will have an asterisk 1.4 box using dahdi_dummy on linux 2.6.x, ubuntu 8.10... anyone run the linux-rt (kernel build with "Ingo Molnar's full real time preemption patch").... was wondering if it would lead to better meetme timing quality/performance over a vanilla kernel
[16:57] <FernandoF> LjL:  The RING BUFFER has same messages
[16:57] <LjL-irssi> FernandoF: err, my keyboard suddenly stopped working inside X, i'll have to restart
[16:58] <LjL-irssi> FernandoF: anyway, try removing sabayon, "sudo apt-get --purge remove sabayon"
[16:58] <LjL-irssi> FernandoF: also, next time just use the pastebin, it's easier to both of us
[16:58] <LjL-irssi> !pastebin > FernandoF
[16:58] <sambo_the_ninja> hello all
[16:58] <Paxt> intangir: [ShareName] NewLineHere path = /foo NewLineHere valid user = JoeUser
[16:59] <HelpNeeded123> I need help about Ubuntu 8.10 please can anybody help me on private? :(
[16:59] <Paxt> intangir: [ShareName] NewLineHere path = /foo NewLineHere valid users = JoeUser (Forgot the extra s)
[16:59] <LjL-irssi> HelpNeeded123: please ask in the channel instead
[16:59] <grawity> HelpNeeded123: Why on private, may I ask?
[16:59] <HelpNeeded123> I cam ask here no porb?
[16:59] <LjL-irssi> HelpNeeded123: it's what this channel is for
[17:00] <sambo_the_ninja> has anyone got any experience with getting hostnames to broadcast on samba using ubuntu server? I spent days googling it...
[17:00] <intangir> Paxt: where does that go though?
[17:00] <Paxt> intangir: the easiest for read+write etc is to use "admin users = JoeUser , Hello , etc", otherwise you have "write list = ..."
[17:00] <Paxt> intangir: smb.conf config file
[17:01] <evocallaghan> hi
[17:01] <Zalewa> Hello, I just installed Krusader and all hell broke loose
[17:01] <Zalewa> http://zalewa.dyndns.org/robert/krusader.jpg
[17:01] <George2> hah! i remember saying druplicon was scary, and ch_x tried to rip me a new one. leisa totally agrees! i <3 leisa!
[17:01] <FernandoF> ubottu: can you see my private reply, please
[17:01] <evocallaghan> just a quick one; anyone can give me a quick figure for boot time of the new beta ?
[17:01] <George2> not that anyone here cares
[17:02] <sammy> what causes an equals sign to appear in the title of my windows? I thought it might have been an activity notifier, but one appeared in an instance of terminator where nothing was happening
[17:02] <HelpNeeded123> Ok I am a fresh user.. I played with Partition Editor and clicked on Create Partition Table... and now I lost everything. I had two XP NTFS Partitions, one / and one swap partition. I had forur partitions and no I have nothing. I cant reboot it says ERROR 22 GRUB. All my data from NTFS partitions desapeared.
[17:02] <whitebelt-ubuntu> ubottu:  Are you a bot?
[17:02] <hecklingfext> I have a question.  All my video players, save MPlayer, have this funny blue/pink tint over anything I watch in them, this also effects video in Firefox.  Any ideas?
[17:02] <Paxt> intangir: tried gadmin-samba ?
[17:02] <_Goat_> hey
[17:02] <whitebelt-ubuntu> Yep, he's a bot.
[17:03] <_Goat_> does anyone know how i would go about configuring the internet through kubuntu? i use wireless
[17:03] <sammy> evocallaghan: I've been running jaunty alpha for a while, and the boot time is suprisingly quick. more than 3... less than 10 seconds on an older 2ghz 32bit laptop.
[17:03] <dwaynefortman> How do you get Xvidcap to record sound?
[17:03] <oCean_> sammy: jaunty discussions/issues go in #ubuntu+1
[17:03] <evocallaghan> sammy thanks
[17:03] <FernandoF> if it is a bot why is it bot hering people?
[17:03] <HelpNeeded123> Anybody ? :)
[17:04] <dwaynefortman> Does anyone know how to get Xvid cap to record sound?
[17:04] <HelpNeeded123> I asked.. Ok I am a fresh user.. I played with Partition Editor and clicked on Create Partition Table... and now I lost everything. I had two XP NTFS Partitions, one / and one swap partition. I had forur partitions and no I have nothing. I cant reboot it says ERROR 22 GRUB. All my data from NTFS partitions desapeared.
[17:04] <sammy> oCean_: sorry, he/she asked. evocallaghan: jaunty disucssions go in #ubuntu+1 :)
[17:04] <sipior> HelpNeeded123: if you happen to know the previous partition table, you can try recreating it. hopefully, your data will still be intact. otherwise, you're stuck restoring from backups, i'm afraid.
[17:04] <HelpNeeded123> I only clickede create partition table.. it sisnt asked me if I want to confirm !!
[17:04] <evocallaghan> HelpNeeded123 best to read up on things befor using them
[17:04] <Paxt> FernandoF: its probably an official bot. ask it something and it can probably give some quick answers
[17:05] <whitebelt-ubuntu> Good point.  But that joke came from the bot tom of the barrel mate. FernandoF
[17:05] <evocallaghan> try a distro called sys-rescue
[17:05] <dwaynefortman> Does anone know how to get xvidcap to record sound
[17:05] <evocallaghan> read all the docs !
[17:05] <HelpNeeded123> I wanted to try TestDisc ??
[17:05] <HelpNeeded123> I donno how :(
[17:05] <dwaynefortman> Does anyone know how to get xvidcap to record sound
[17:05] <sipior> HelpNeeded123: this might be of some use: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[17:06] <dwaynefortman> Does anyone know how to get xvidcap to record sound?
[17:06] <noobguest> I am also interested in testdisc
[17:06] <evocallaghan> get someone to read it to you then
[17:06] <FernandoF> LjL: i did the command to remove sabayon
[17:06] <FernandoF> LjL:  first message is strange
[17:06] <sambo_the_ninja> has anyone got experience with samba? I can happily mount it with the host IP but not the hostname :(
[17:07] <dwaynefortman> Does anyone know how to get xvidcap to record sound
[17:07] <noobguest> I have done a fresh installation twice of ubuntu 8.1 and it will not load from bios or from the DVD load first disk option
[17:07]  * cellofellow despises samba
[17:07] <grawity> dwaynefortman: Please stop repeating.
[17:07] <FernandoF> LjL:  sudo:unable to resolve host Malhada_Xibas
[17:07] <oCean_> sambo_the_ninja: but your DNS is setup correctly? You can ping the hosts by name?
[17:07] <LjL> !hostname | FernandoF
[17:07] <cellofellow> noobguest: sounds like grub isn't installed properly.
[17:07] <dwaynefortman> sorry
[17:07] <LjL> FernandoF: you probably have tw different things in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[17:07] <finiras> can someone help me with reinstalling grub, im using a guide but it doesnt work, it says that i have to get into grub, which i have, and then type "find /boot/grub/stage1" but then it returns error 15: file not found, so i mounted the boot partition with grub on it and tried "find /media/disk-2/grub/stage1" which is the correct path but im still getting the same error... ive been pulling my hair for a hour now as ive been trying to get easybcd
[17:07] <finiras>  to boot ubuntu or install grub again and get it to boot vista, plz help me because im about to throw this computer out of the window
[17:07] <Jeruvy> oCean_:DNS doesn't affect CIFS (unless your in a AD environment)
[17:07] <FernandoF> LjL:  in the middle of outcome ofcommand i have the following message
[17:08] <cellofellow> finiras: you have to tell which disk / is to grub.
[17:08] <oCean_> Jeruvy: ? I can mount SMB shares when my DNS setup is ok.
[17:08] <dwaynefortman> Has anyone been having the same problem with Xvidcap?
[17:08] <oCean_> Jeruvy: mount shares by hostname that is
[17:09] <HammerHead66> ﻿ finiras: http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html  look here to see what is happened k
[17:09] <joshuas13> hi
[17:09] <FernandoF> LjL: "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: python-ldap python-gamin xnest"
[17:09] <cellofellow> finiras: I think it's the root command, something like root hd(0,0). Probably hd(1,0) in your case.
[17:09] <finiras> cellofellow uh... the filesystem? the rest of the disks are mounted at media
[17:09] <LjL> FernandoF: that doesn't matter
[17:09] <joshuas13> my hard drive contains only one NTFS partition... if i book using ubuntu livecd, then run Gparted to resize it .. will i lose any data ?
[17:10] <cellofellow> finiras: no, the actual disk as the BIOS sees it. Grub doesn't care about the filesystem till it gets to the point of reading menu.lst and the kernel image.
[17:10] <Jeruvy> oCean_: you can mount by hostname, but it's do to the master browser not dns.
[17:10] <sambo_the_ninja> finiras: check the second post on this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[17:10] <LjL> joshuas13: you shouldn't, but resizing partitions is always a potentially dangerous operation, so you should have a backup
[17:10] <julian_> hi im having a little trouble with my grub
[17:10] <sambo_the_ninja> julian_, what is your problem?
[17:10] <julian_> how can i reinstall it so that it rescans my partitions for win installations?
[17:10] <cellofellow> joshuas13: you may lose data if you don't defragment before resizing. Otherwise resizing ntfs works fine.
[17:11] <joshuas13> cellofellow ah...then i better defragment first !
[17:11] <n8tuser> finiras-> are you booted off of a livecd ?
[17:11] <sambo_the_ninja> julian_: I'm not sure what you mean. Do you want to add a boot windows option in grub?
[17:11] <julian_> sambo_the_ninja:  i reinstalled xp and that messed a little my grub. i did a recover before with dd but im unable to start my vista now. so im trying to get my grub rescan everything
[17:11] <finiras> yes n8tuser
[17:12] <n8tuser> finiras-> once you mounted the partitions, you were still gettting an error of not finding the stage 1.5 ?
[17:12] <cellofellow> julian_: next time install all Windows systems before installing a Linux system. Windows insists on installing the windows bootloader and has no idea GRUB exists.
[17:12] <swayed> I get following error when I do Updates [ http://imagebin.org/43385 ] - Is there a way to fix this ? ?
[17:12] <finiras> yeah like i said n8tuser
[17:12] <FernandoF> LjL:  shall I try to get in again or do you have any other idea to help me?
[17:12] <julian_> cellofellow: i know so i did a copy of the mbr
[17:13] <Fougner> julian_, you want to restore grub, right?
[17:13] <cellofellow> julian_: from the livecd you can do grub-install to install grub in the mbr.
[17:13] <julian_> grub is loading fine but it starts under vista entry my xp and under xp nothin
[17:13] <julian_> so i know there was something like grub-update with rescan or something
[17:13] <julian_> but i cant find it
[17:13] <cellofellow> julian_: grub-update won't add your Windows kernels.
[17:13] <n8tuser> finiras-> well you can verify the mounted partition, and list that mount point with something  /mountpoint/boot/grub/stage1.5  if it does not exist, then you will not be able to boot
[17:14] <cellofellow> julian_: pastebin your menu.lst.
[17:14] <LjL> !gpgerr | swayed
[17:14] <boscop> Hibernation feature doesn't work for my notebook Acer Extensa 5230-571G16. Can you help me?
[17:14] <Aggrav8d> hi, everybody!  I upgraded 8.04->8.10 and didn't reboot my windows machine for 4 days.  Now that I have I find my samba share doesn't work.  I'm really stupid and don't know how to diagnose the trouble. can someone please help me?
[17:15] <FernandoF> LjL: I have  new error details now (sabayon no longer exists :))
[17:15] <swayed> LjL, Thank you - will research this - and try to fix  :o)
[17:15] <furenku> hey; does anybody have a clue why any model changes i perform on /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base have no effect, even after reboot?
[17:15] <julian_> im afraid that xp installtion overwrote vista boot
[17:16] <cellofellow> julian_: then you can just manually write a new menu option for vista and rename the xp option vista.
[17:16] <Lorenzu> hi ppl
[17:16] <julian_> http://pastebin.com/m1d79e72b
[17:16] <julian_> fdisk l and menu.lst
[17:17] <Giugggiu> i have a problem with ettercap, someone can help me?
[17:17] <FernandoF> LjL: unable to open file '/usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodap'  for reading /usr/bin/xmodap: 1 error encountered, aborting.""
[17:18] <julian_> but ive another copy of first of 446 bytes of sda2
[17:18] <thewrath> hey all
[17:19] <cellofellow> julian_: fdisk appears to be in german :P
[17:19] <cellofellow> julian_: I can still understand it, but that's weird to me.
[17:19] <LjL> FernandoF: err, are you on Kubuntu now? that file doesn't appear to be *supposed* to exist outside of Kubuntu
[17:19] <infinity1> anyone know where this sharkattack has moved to? old url: http://sharkattack.media.mit.edu/
[17:20] <Pici> !ot | infinity1
[17:20] <julian_> oh sorry the line means: device ,  boot, start , end, block,  id, system :) : cellofellow
[17:20] <infinity1> ubottu: eh?
[17:20] <cellofellow> julian_: ok, so there are two ntfs partitions. sda2 and sda5. which ones have which version of windows?
[17:20] <infinity1> ubottu: then shut up!
[17:20] <infinity1> gawd
[17:20] <Pici> infinity1: This is a support channel. Please stop.
[17:20] <finiras> thx for helping me, i booted into my ubuntu install, now to install vista on grub
[17:20] <cellofellow> julian_: yeah, I know what they mean I just didn't know fdisk could be localized. :P
[17:20] <ndshacker> hi guys my USB HDD wont mount at all, any help?
[17:21] <julian_> cellow look under the fdisk there is what is what
[17:21] <cellofellow> julian_: oh, ok
[17:21] <infinity1> plz don't kick me for asking ubuntu questions. i'm just looking for sharkattack build tools
[17:21] <infinity1> geez
[17:22] <George2> is there any way to prevent gtk apps from having their menu shortcuts changed by hovering over them and pressing a key?
[17:22] <FernandoF> LjL: how can i check it? i am not sure, may be after installing updated i did not delete all old files
[17:22] <cellofellow> julian_: there are three Windows menu items in there, and I'm assuming only the second one works?
[17:22] <julian_> first and second is working
[17:22] <infinity1> anywayz, back to my original question, does anyone know where it is? the old url http://sharkattack.media.mit.edu/
[17:22] <FernandoF> LjL:  is there a severe consequence if we do the same procedure as with sabayon?
[17:22] <julian_> first is my vista recovery partition
[17:22] <LjL> infinity1: what IS sharkattack?
[17:22] <LjL> FernandoF: well i wouldn't even know just what to remove at this point
[17:23] <cellofellow> julian_: change the third to (hd0,4) and see if that works.
[17:23] <julian_> cellofellow: sorry i keep forgetting writing your name
[17:23] <julian_> ill do that brb
[17:23] <infinity1> LjL: not really sure, i haven't found it yet. its referenced on backport mailing lists
[17:23] <ndshacker> hi guys my USB HDD wont mount at all, any help?
[17:23] <infinity1> http://www.nabble.com/Where-to-I-find-Gutenprint-backports-build--td12536130.html
[17:23] <infinity1> LjL: its sounds very useful though
[17:23] <Dazzler> hi guys - new to linux, just having a problem with pidgin when i try to run it in terminal i get a segmentation fault any ideas how to fix this?
[17:23] <HammerHead66> ﻿infinity1: ﻿"ubottu"  is a bot
[17:24] <FernandoF> LjL:  errors are now confined at /usr/bin/xmodap
[17:24] <Dazzler> or anywhere i can go to get some advice?
[17:24] <infinity1> HammerHead66: yea. i know. not very smart bot
[17:24] <LjL> infinity1: err, "sharkattack" merely appears to be the name of a site - what you're looking for is merely gutenprint...?
[17:24] <ndshacker> hi guys my USB HDD wont mount at all, any help?
[17:24] <LjL> FernandoF: i'm not sure that removing xmodmap will help, though. rather, try making an xmodmap file
[17:24] <infinity1> LjL: I think its a backport site. or was.
[17:24] <LjL> FernandoF: i'll give you one that might or might not work
[17:25] <HammerHead66> ﻿ndshacker: did you set BIOS to boot up from that drive
[17:25] <asm`> im running kubuntu in Sun XVM and the display settings are just terrible. it is really small and i only have 2 screen size options.. is Vmware any better?
[17:25] <FernandoF> LjL: I strongly appreciate your effort and take the risk
[17:25] <ndshacker> hammerhead: i just want it to mount
[17:25] <sipior> Dazzler: no other errors come up besides the segfault?
[17:25] <LjL> FernandoF: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139095/ use this are your /usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap
[17:25] <Dazzler> no, when i try to run normally it seems to start then just stop but in terminal just get the seg fault
[17:26] <HammerHead66> ﻿ndshacker: does the hard drive show up at all ?
[17:26] <rdz> ndshacker, after connecting thedrive and doing 'dmesg' do you see something mentioning the drive?
[17:26] <LjL> infinity1: that stuff is from 2007, i don't know what sharkattack was, it's never been anything official, and it's probably long gone
[17:26] <Kuros> anyone know when ubuntu is moving to 2.6.29 kernel?
[17:26] <Pici> Kuros: 9.10
[17:26] <ndshacker> nope it doesnt show up at all
[17:26] <FernandoF> I can not use paste bin procedure as i am using 2 different machines...one for chat to try to get the other back
[17:26] <ndshacker> evar since i upgraded to 8.10
[17:26] <LjL> FernandoF: and you can't access the internet on the one you're trying to fix...?
[17:27] <rdz> ndshacker, no message regarding your disk in dmesg?
[17:27] <FernandoF> LjL: I can not use paste bin procedure as i am using 2 different machines...one for chat to try to get the other back
[17:27] <HammerHead66> ﻿ndshacker: unplug from usb reboot plug it in
[17:27] <julian_> cellofellow: i get invalid device
[17:27] <ndshacker> ok
[17:27] <Paxt> ndshacker: In the envarwebz noone can ... ? :)
[17:27] <infinity1> LjL: here is more info on it. bummer.
[17:27] <julian_> i tried hd0,3 hd0,4 hd0,5
[17:27] <cellofellow> julian_: hmmm
[17:27] <infinity1> LjL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2007-August/005743.html
[17:27] <FernandoF> LJL: I think i can, but I have no graphics access there and not a second OS as well
[17:28] <Ryder5> What free ftp hosting sites allow exe files to be uploaded to them?
[17:28] <Paxt> all ?
[17:28] <cellofellow> julian_: can windows boot off of a logical partition?
[17:28] <LjL> FernandoF: "w3m" or "links" are text-mode web browsers that you could use, and the "gpm" package will allow you to copy and paste stuff using the mouse from the console
[17:28] <FernandoF> LjL: SO internet access there is useless
[17:28] <sipior> Dazzler: you can try running it under strace ("strace pidgin") and see what the process is trying to do when it dies. it's a fair bit of information, though, so you may want to redirect output to a file using the "-o" switch (or just use shell redirection, whichever).
[17:28] <Pici> infinity1: #ubuntu-motu *may* have more information for you, but stuff from 2 years ago may not be running anymore.
[17:28] <julian_> yeah it did before
[17:28] <LjL> FernandoF: anyway, just do the following to apply my pastebin:
[17:29] <LjL> FernandoF: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntu.com/139095/plain/ -O /usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap
[17:29] <Ryder5> anyone know what ftp host allows .exe files to be uploaded to them?
[17:29] <Ryder5> apart from drivehq
[17:29] <julian_> hm cellowfellow maybe i should add a option to the win xp boot screen to bood my vista if this is possible
[17:29] <Dazzler> thanks sipior i will give that a go see what happens :) like i say im new to linux so i appreciate the help
[17:29] <Pici> !ot | Ryder5
[17:29] <cellofellow> julian_: yeah, you could do that.
[17:30] <sipior> Dazzler: no trouble, good luck sorting things out
[17:30] <cellofellow> julian_: maybe you need to set sda5 to be bootable.
[17:31] <cellofellow> Ryder5: just change the extension or gzip the file if it won't let you upload an exe.
[17:31] <cellofellow> julian_: you can tab-complete my name so you don't mispell it.
[17:31] <OsamaK> hello, where can I find the documentation  source code?
[17:32] <Fougner> OsamaK, documentation source code for what?
[17:33] <OsamaK> Fougner, Ubuntu Documentation. I read something says "runk/ubuntu/about-ubuntu/C/ trunk/ubuntu/about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.xml". Where is this file?
[17:33] <Dazzler> sipior: hehe yes you are right alot of information in that file :)
[17:33] <HammerHead66> ﻿OsamaK:    http://search.ubuntu.com/results2.html?cx=009650792990864903260%3A-lsdjshi1tu&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=source+code&sa=Search#1012
[17:33] <cellofellow> OsamaK: in the bzr repo.
[17:34] <sipior> Dazzler: yep :-) best way to approach it is to work backwards, figuring out exactly where the first fatal error occurs.
[17:34] <tanhongsin> idontknow
[17:34] <furenku> is there a way to activate the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file after it has been modified? any changes i make seem entirely ineffective
[17:34] <FernandoF> LjL: i have to messages
[17:35] <zilleplus_> i got ubuntu server 8 but can't get internet on it
[17:35] <FernandoF> LjL: sudo: unable to resolve host Malhada-Xibas
[17:35] <zilleplus_> can annyone help
[17:35] <FernandoF> LjL: and
[17:36] <FernandoF> LjL: /usr/share/apps/kxkkb/ubuntu.xmodap: No such file or directory
[17:36] <OsamaK> cellofellow, link please?
[17:36] <zilleplus_> i got ubuntu server8 and got some problem with my internet connection (ifconfig:http://pastebin.com/d56bbe78)
[17:36] <HammerHead66> ﻿zilleplus_: you you have wifi?
[17:36] <zilleplus_> no
[17:36] <HammerHead66> ﻿zilleplus_: do you sorry
[17:36] <zilleplus_> local with simple router
[17:36] <FernandoF> LjL: with wget: previous of my last message posted
[17:37] <HammerHead66> ﻿zilleplus_: what are the settings?
[17:37] <cellofellow> OsamaK: um...
[17:37] <sipior> furenku: can't you add the needed lines to /etc/modprobe.d/options, instead?
[17:37] <zilleplus_> wfrom server ore router??
[17:37] <Sace> hello there is somebody that can help
[17:37] <HammerHead66> both
[17:37] <jochenh> Hey! How can I edit file associations?
[17:38] <zilleplus_> hammer you know wath to do
[17:38] <zilleplus_> ??
[17:38] <OsamaK> cellofellow, docs thing. do you remember :)
[17:38] <HammerHead66> ﻿zilleplus_:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/  paste it here
[17:38] <UUB> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[17:38] <UUB> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6AF0E1940624A220
[17:38] <UUB> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release
[17:38] <UUB> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release
[17:38] <jochenh> Sace: Describe your problem
[17:38] <zilleplus_> http://pastebin.com/d56bbe78
[17:38] <FloodBot2> UUB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:38] <UUB> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:38] <zilleplus_> ifconfig
[17:38] <HammerHead66> ﻿zilleplus_: then give me the webpage
[17:38] <zilleplus_> http://pastebin.com/d56bbe78
[17:38] <zilleplus_> http://pastebin.com/d56bbe78
[17:38] <zilleplus_> http://pastebin.com/d56bbe78
[17:38] <FloodBot2> zilleplus_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:38] <cellofellow> OsamaK: yes, just can't seem to find it. Where did you get that filename?
[17:39] <FernandoF> LjL: did you get my mesages?
[17:39] <furenku> sipior, do you know what the difference would be?
[17:39] <HammerHead66> ﻿zilleplus_: your having a problem with your proxy
[17:39] <Dazzler> sipior: again thanks for your help will look at getting this sorted now - but better crack on with my uni work :( i get distracted so easily
[17:39] <zilleplus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/139112/
[17:39] <jochenh> How can I edit file associations in ubuntu?
[17:39] <zilleplus_> don't have proxy
[17:39] <Dazzler> sipior: :)
[17:40] <HammerHead66> ﻿zilleplus_: did you just make up the IP you have?
[17:40] <zilleplus_> no installed it and nothing more
[17:41] <zilleplus_> router has been dhcp server
[17:41] <sipior> furenku: generally options get added to "options". what exactly were you trying to change?
[17:41] <OsamaK> cellofellow, well, let's say any 'about-ubuntu.xml' file. can you find it?
[17:41] <ipx> Is there a way to launch an application and force it to not play any sound? Like nodsp application?
[17:41] <furenku> sipior, the snd card model; in mine there's no sound from the headphones...
[17:41] <Jmz> Rebooting.
[17:41] <HammerHead66> well the 127.o.o.1 has something to do with the proxy
[17:42] <cellofellow> OsamaK: `locate about-ubuntu.xml`, there are many.
[17:42] <finiras> does it matter for ubuntus system encryption if i put GRUB on a seperate partition or is it even necessary?
[17:42] <HammerHead66> ﻿zilleplus_:  you might have it on and not know it
[17:42] <sipior> furenku: but the alsa-base file isn't being regenerated at every boot, right? also, what was the exact line you planned on adding/changing?
[17:42] <zilleplus_> how do it set it off
[17:42] <cellofellow> finiras: I think it's required.
[17:42] <HammerHead66> ﻿zilleplus_:  I'm working on that one myself
[17:42] <HammerHead66> lol
[17:43] <jochenh> How can I edit file associations? can pls someone help?
[17:43] <furenku> sipior, the alsa-base stays as i change it, I think. I'm adding "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel model=dell-m42" or any other model...
[17:43] <OsamaK> cellofellow, link please? :)
[17:43] <furenku> sipior, but nothing i do seems to have an effect
[17:43] <chronic_> jochenh: right click, properties
[17:44] <ipx> Is there a way to launch an application and force it to not play any sound? Like nodsp application?
[17:44] <cellofellow> OsamaK: locate is a command. run `locate about-ubuntu.xml`. I got 53 of them.
[17:44] <jochenh> chronic_: I want to edit the whole list of apps, how can I edit them?
[17:45] <sipior> furenku: have you verified that that is the correct syntax for the snd_hda_intel module? also, does anything appear in your system logs when you try to insert the module?
[17:45] <cellofellow> OsamaK: you need to run `sudo updatedb` just this once before you can use locate.
[17:45] <furenku> sipior, how can i read the syslogs?
[17:45] <ipx> jochenh: System > Preferences > Preferred applications
[17:45] <FernandoF> LjL: still there?
[17:45] <sipior> furenku: dmesg, and check in /var/log/messages as well
[17:46] <jochenh> ipx: but there I can only edit internet browser and media player?
[17:46] <furenku> sipior, ill check & let you know
[17:46] <julian_> cellofellow:  :( not working
[17:46] <sipior> furenku: ah, and /var/log/kern.log
[17:46] <ipx> jochenh: You're right. Sorry.
[17:46] <boscop> Hibernation feature doesn't work for my notebook Acer Extensa 5230-571G16. Can you help me?
[17:46] <cellofellow> julian_: honestly I'm befuddled.
[17:47] <HammerHead66> ﻿boscop: there has been a bug posted for this problem
[17:47] <jochenh> ipx: is there a software which can edit the whole list of apps?
[17:47] <iGuelph> installing sun-java6-jre failed half way through and disconnected me from server, i rebooted and trying to remove with dpkg -i but it isn't working, is there another way to fix this?
[17:48] <ipx> jochenh: I think I've seen one but cannot remember where..
[17:48] <JohnCane> Hi i have just installed my driver to my wifi, but how do i configure it so it works ?
[17:48] <cellofellow> iGuelph: you want dpkg -r
[17:48] <iGuelph> k i'll try that thanks
[17:48] <HammerHead66> ﻿JohnCane:https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/internet/C/wireless.html here you go
[17:49] <mattgyver_lap> Everytime i do a system update im told that i can only do a 'partial upgrade' does anyone know how i can fix this?  Do I have a bad repo listed?
[17:49] <jochenh> ipx: exactly my problem :)
[17:49] <FernandoF> thx all for your effort
[17:49] <whitebelt-ubuntu> Does anybody know why my printer/scanner can only be seen as a printer?  Is there no driver for it yet?  It is a new cheapy from Hewlett Packard, and I can't use the scanner, even with Xsane or scanner utility.
[17:49] <JohnCane> HammerHead66: thank you
[17:49] <HammerHead66> ﻿JohnCane: np
[17:50] <OsamaK> cellofellow, /usr/share/gnome/help/about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.xml
[17:50] <cellofellow> OsamaK: so, you've found the file you were looking for.
[17:50] <cellofellow> ?
[17:50] <FernandoF> specially appreciated help from LjL, prince_jammys and sipior
[17:50] <lampliter> need to share a directory by nfs and smb on  an 8.10 system.  right click on directory, sharing options, clicked share this folder a
[17:50] <lampliter> and allow other people to write
[17:50] <oCean_> !away > RoozbehOnline
[17:51] <FernandoF> My problem has not been completely solved by I think a great step forward has been done
[17:51] <whitebelt-ubuntu> lampliter:  Do you mean me?
[17:51] <lampliter> can't find the share from windows.
[17:51] <OsamaK> cellofellow, I need the SVN (or what ever Ubuntu uses) version.
[17:51] <FernandoF> Thx and bye
[17:51] <cellofellow> OsamaK: yeah, bzr. I don't rightly know where the ubuntu bzr is. Ask in #ubuntu-devel.
[17:51] <OsamaK> cellofellow, what's why I kept saying 'link'.
[17:51] <OsamaK> cellofellow, ok, fine :)
[17:51] <lampliter> whitebelt-ubuntu: no, jsut cant type for shit. sent whe I did not intend
[17:52] <whitebelt-ubuntu> lampliter:  lol, no probs
[17:52] <abpc> bonsoir
[17:52] <riwa> I've just bought a new keyboard and ubuntu almost detects it automaticly. But there are some buttons that I wish to assign manually. How can I do that?
[17:52] <lampliter> sb usuin speech recog but 8.10 ahd f**ked up usb audio and make it not ood for my vm whre nat speak resides
[17:53] <balu> nabend
[17:53] <whitebelt-ubuntu> Goodnight folks, and thanks for all your help.  I look forward to chatting again, but I must sleep.
[17:53] <oCean_> lampliter: mind your language. Obfuscated swearing is also not allowed
[17:53] <HammerHead66> ﻿riwa:  text upper left side of desktop /System/Prefs'/Keyboard
[17:54] <oCean_> !away > fader_
[17:54] <lampliter> oCean_: ok, ut a bug in 8.10 is causing me pysh pain and I can't find a sol
[17:54] <Paxt> lampliter maybe you can use gadmin-samba ?
[17:54] <furenku> sipior, yes, there are messages on the syslogs
[17:54] <lampliter> Paxt: will try.
[17:55] <Paxt> lampliter: alright
[17:55] <lampliter> ant suggestions for handling usb audio right
[17:55] <furenku> sipior, but they don't really change from option to option
[17:55] <Paxt> lampliter: do one thing at a time
[17:55] <riwa> HammerHead66: There I can only change keymap. I need a read the key to input and reprogram its output. I have a button called G5 that outputs '. But I need to push space after the ' for it to appear. This makes it useless in games for example.
[17:56] <furenku> sipior, what i mean, is that no matter what option i give it, it'll write the same info more or less in the logs.
[17:56] <HammerHead66> ﻿riwa: there is a icon for it there on the bottom
[17:56] <peppo> 8.10 installer freezes at 5% of creating ext3 fs on scsi 0,0,0...
[17:56] <net1> hi
[17:56] <HammerHead66> ﻿riwa: under tab "Layouts"
[17:57] <riwa> HammerHead66: Icon for what? A keyboard programnmer?
[17:57] <|PaperTiger|> peppo, it did that to me tomorrow. Give it time. It should hopefully go up
[17:57] <HammerHead66> ﻿riwa: then click on layout options
[17:57] <[Spooky]> Anyone knows of a good TV-Tuner software that has autosearch?
[17:57] <riwa> Im there
[17:57] <Leon_Nardella> How can I install the Ubuntu LPIA port from USB? I used unetbootin to put it on a flash drive, but during installation it keeps asking me for a mirror to download from.
[17:57] <net1> no
[17:58] <[Spooky]> Or do i have to install Windows... :/
[17:59] <riwa> HammerHead66: I can't find it
[17:59] <HammerHead66> ﻿riwa: look around it's there sommewhere
[17:59] <peppo> |PaperTiger|, yeah, you were right
[17:59] <HammerHead66> ﻿riwa: make sure you have the right keyboard set
[17:59] <Paxt> [Spooky]: No habla ingles
[17:59] <Paxt> :)
[17:59] <genii> [Spooky]: xawtv can scan channels. But you probably would hate the interface
[17:59] <|PaperTiger|> peppo, it stopped at 5% for me too, lol
[17:59] <net1> no hablo spanish
[17:59] <riwa> HammerHead66: I don't. It's not in the list. Well the vendor is but not the keyboard model
[18:00] <Paxt> net1: Hablatix theum latinox ?
[18:00] <riwa> Is there some way to download more keyboard models?
[18:00] <HammerHead66> ﻿riwa: then try it for the vender under gen
[18:00] <afujihara> who *
[18:01] <g4lt-lappy> wait, you can download a keyboard model?  cool what's the URL to a model M? ;P
[18:01] <net1> does anyone here use ubuntu
[18:01] <Nalf> !jp
[18:01] <riwa> There is no generic. But the one i've picked works ok. Except some buttons
[18:01] <g4lt-lappy> net1, nope, we all use Red Hat.  for ubuntu, go to #mandrake
[18:01] <HammerHead66> ﻿riwa: if the bottons aren't that big of a deal I wouldn't worry then
[18:01] <net1> sweet
[18:02] <riwa> HammerHead66: But they are.. Not for typing, but for conveniance
[18:02] <net1> g4lt-lappy thats awesome is ubuntu something like linux right
[18:02] <HammerHead66> ﻿riwa: but you can always go online to manufactures web site to see if you can get the drivers for it
[18:02] <Paxt> net1: For Slackware, goto 10 ;)
[18:02] <riwa> net1: No. Its food..
[18:03] <|PaperTiger|> For backing up xorg.conf file, copying it to Documents is enough, isn't it?
[18:03] <net1> riwa nice
[18:03] <Leon_Nardella> How can I install the Ubuntu LPIA port from USB? I used unetbootin to put it on a flash drive, but during installation it keeps asking me for a mirror to download from.
[18:03] <kdub432> |PaperTiger|: back it up by copying it to anywhere you like
[18:03] <Titan8990> |PaperTiger|, yes copying it anywhere is plenty
[18:03] <Titan8990> |PaperTiger|, I always do: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bak
[18:03] <schmichael> i'm on 8.10 and somehow managed to get seahorse to crash my computer whenever i try to check signatures in bzr visualize
[18:04] <schmichael> at least i think its seahorse at fault
[18:04] <schmichael> i get a dbus timeout exception from bzr
[18:04] <riwa> HammerHead66: Ill look into it.. But it says on the kb that it doesn't require drivers
[18:04] <net1> i dont use 8.10 it didnt playnice with me
[18:04] <|PaperTiger|> kdub432, Titan8990: To change the graphics drive in use, I have to change the name of the driver in devices, then log out and back in, right?
[18:04] <schmichael> and then 30 seconds later my hdd is thrashing so bad i can't do anything
[18:04] <schmichael> even reboot usually
[18:04] <net1> use lts
[18:04] <|PaperTiger|> Titan8990: I would do that, if I actually knew it :P I'm new-ish to Ubuntu
[18:04] <linduxed> if theres some software that has been released, but is not yet fixed by ubuntu devs so it works smoothly, theres some wait associated (im thinking firefox 3 here). is there a way to check on the progress if you know the package name?
[18:05] <HammerHead66> ﻿Leon_Nardella: the program is asking you were you want to download from the net the program is only so big so it has to download the rest from online
[18:05] <schmichael> net1: are you talking to me?  because if i have to reinstall, i'm reinstalling debian ;-)
[18:05] <net1> schmichael ya i use 8.04
[18:06] <riwa> HammerHead66: It says on the website: No driver required for this product
[18:06] <Leon_Nardella> HammerHead66: It's provided as an ISO. I just don't have a CD drive.
[18:07] <HammerHead66> ﻿Leon_Nardella: get one from your friends and burn it
[18:07] <Leon_Nardella> Yeah.. Great advice.
[18:07] <riwa> lol
[18:08] <HammerHead66> ﻿riwa: it's probably really old then
[18:08] <kdub432> Leon_Nardella: google for pendrive linux,
[18:08] <riwa> Leon_Nardella: There should be some way to do a networked install.. But you need some basic stuff for that. I don't know if it works on a floppy..
[18:08] <Titan8990> |PaperTiger|, that is correct
[18:08] <kdub432> or even Leon_Nardella afaik there's a usb disk installer on the live cd
[18:08] <riwa> HammerHead66: No. It's really new
[18:08] <Eimhin> to extract a tar.bz2 file the command is "tar jxvf filename.tar.bz2" right?
[18:08] <|PaperTiger|> Titan8990, thank you.
[18:08] <Titan8990> |PaperTiger|, well, really a bit more than log out and in, need hit CTRL+ALT+backspace
[18:08] <finiras> is there a graphical interface to set up ubuntu full system encryption?
[18:08] <Leon_Nardella> riwa: The point is that I don't to do a network install, since I already have the ISO.
[18:08] <DRebellion> Eimhin, you can usally leave out the 'j' - tar will recognize it for you
[18:08] <HammerHead66> ﻿riwa: hhmm I don't know what to tell you then sorry I couldn't help you
[18:09] <Eimhin> alright
[18:09]  * Machtin loves his unp-script
[18:09] <Leon_Nardella> kdub432: I used unetbootin which usually work for Ubuntu isos, but the lpia ISO is an alternate version which will only try to do networked installs when put on the USB drive.
[18:09] <Eimhin> well
[18:09] <riwa> Leon_Nardella: Well the iso is for burning...
[18:09] <Eimhin> thats what i'm doing
[18:09] <Eimhin> and i can't see the output
[18:09] <Eimhin> i'm just doing it on my desktop
[18:10] <Eimhin> and theres no extracted file afterwards
[18:10] <Leon_Nardella> riwa: Do you know unetbootin?
[18:10] <riwa> Leon_Nardella: Nope
[18:11] <Leon_Nardella> Well.. There seems to be a bug about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/347458
[18:11] <finiras> why is the bug page of ubuntu with SSL lol
[18:11] <finiras> omg im gonna submit a bug its top secret
[18:11] <zeta> what's the latex2pdf package called?
[18:12] <genii> finiras: If it wasn't secured and someone started spamming the email address you gave in tghe report, I'm sure you might feel otherwise
[18:13] <finiras> oh so genii you're saying that people are sniffing just to get the email address that you use at the bug report
[18:13] <Eimhin> is there any reason why i wouldn't be able to see a file after extraction?
[18:13] <stefg> Leon_Nardella: I went thru this before you and found out i'm wasting my time opn trying to install the lpia port. The install will not work (no kernel installed) and you will regret to give up compatibility with i386 packages. i talked to some ubuntu-dev and he told me that lpia will be a properly supported architecture in the future, but at the time being only works with Dell mini 9's
[18:13] <hh> hello
[18:13] <hh> hi ,everybody ,
[18:14] <finiras> hey hh
[18:14] <hh> yeah,nice to meet u finiras
[18:14] <HammerHead66> ﻿Eimhin: did yu click on it and it won't open?
[18:14] <Leon_Nardella> stefg: Yeah.. Support seems to be half-baked now.
[18:14] <Eimhin> no i've extracted it and i can't see the extracted file
[18:14] <Eimhin> theres just nothing there
[18:14] <genii> finiras: It's offtopic for here. But anything is possible. There are many machines between any given individual and the bug report site.
[18:15] <HammerHead66> ﻿Eimhin: were did you extract it to?
[18:15] <tdn> How do I make a bootable USB thumb drive with the new 9.04 Beta Ubuntu ISO? I have just downloaded the desktop i386 version iso. What to do?
[18:15] <Eimhin> desktop
[18:15] <Eimhin> well
[18:15] <Eimhin> thats where the compressed file was
[18:15] <hh> hi
[18:15] <Pici> tdn: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[18:15] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[18:15] <Eimhin> so i assume the extracted one should be there
[18:15] <stefg> Leon_Nardella: true... and you won't lose anything by using plain i386... battery life is the same, just some obscure compiler flags are set differemtly
[18:15] <komputes> Does anyone here have a Toshiba Satellite A100? I'm looking for a way to fix the no sound issue on the latest releases.
[18:15] <HammerHead66> open it see if it is there
[18:15] <Tetracomm> Are there any Toshiba notebook owners here?
[18:15] <Pici> !enter
[18:15] <tdn> Pici, then same question for Ubuntu 8.10. It's the same problem!
[18:15] <HammerHead66> ﻿Eimhin: it probably over wrote it
[18:16] <Pici> tdn: take a look at this then.
[18:16] <Pici> !install > tdn
[18:16] <noobguest> Why am I unable to find testdisk in the synaptic package manager?
[18:16] <hh> can u tell me virualbox ose can connect the remote host?
[18:16] <Eimhin> over wrote?
[18:16] <LjL> noobguest: what does "apt-cache policy testdisk | grep Candidate" say?
[18:16] <Eimhin> the extracted file over wrote the compressed one?
[18:17] <noobguest> sounds like If I knew then I would have my anser
[18:17] <noobguest> how do i access "apt-cache policy testdisk | grep Candidate"?
[18:17] <LjL> noobguest: you type that in a terminal
[18:17] <mattgyver83> Im having problems connection to an ADHOC network, suing BCM43xx drivers, anyone know anything about this?
[18:17] <mattgyver83> suing= using*
[18:17] <noobguest> LjL: thanks
[18:18] <tdn> Pici, Ok.
[18:18] <the_dark_warrio> I'm installing another ubuntu, and I have this configuration before installation: 1 partition for / and 1 partition for /home. So, for this new installation, I created another partition for / and selected the same /home, choosing not to format it. Is it going to create any conflicts?
[18:18] <noobguest> LjL: it says "W: Unable to locate package testdisk"
[18:18] <LjL> noobguest: ok, pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[18:19] <voice5sur5> ping
[18:19] <LjL> pong
[18:19] <Eimhin> HammerHead66, is there anything i can to stop it being over written
[18:19] <HammerHead66> ﻿Eimhin: when you extract there is an option for that see if it is checked
[18:19] <Eimhin> k
[18:20] <HammerHead66> ﻿noobguest: have you been helped?
[18:20] <Eimhin> alright
[18:20] <Eimhin> i got it
[18:20] <Eimhin> thanks
[18:20] <Dad`>  est ce que bluetooth, ca veut dire "dent bleu" ou bien ???
[18:20] <Pici> !fr | Dad`
[18:20] <settntrenz> I just registered (15 mins ago) at ubuntuforums.org to download a patch for a gspca webcam driver from ubuntuforums.org (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966932&highlight=e2500) but even though I was able to register it's saying I don't have permission to download the file. Can anyone hook a brotha up and pastebin the contents or host it for a minute?
[18:21] <pushkalcodes> can anyone explain to me whether APT first checks out the system list for the package user wants to install or it checks out the repository first ?
[18:21] <LjL> Dad`: (oui)
[18:21] <HammerHead66> ﻿noobguest: are you in Linux right now?
[18:21] <erUSUL> the_dark_warrio: maybe if you create an user with the same username during install...
[18:21] <noobguest> Hammerhead66: yes
[18:21] <noobguest> Hammerhead66: I am operating the 8.10 live-on ubuntu dvd
[18:21] <schmichael> argh!  just tried to submit a bug report and launchpad gave me a Page Not Found error after i had filled everything out
[18:22] <LjL> pushkalcodes: didn't understand your question.
[18:22] <the_dark_warrio> erUSUL: I've chosen different names, so am I safe :) ?
[18:22] <pushkalcodes> schmichael: bad luck !:P
[18:22] <HammerHead66> ﻿noobguest: in text on desktop go to /Application/Accessories/Disk Usage Analyzer
[18:22] <erUSUL> the_dark_warrio: afaics you should be safe
[18:22] <neurobuntu> Are there any tutorials for getting HDTVs working with Ubuntu 8.10 and nvidia cards?
[18:22] <schmichael> pushkalcodes: i seem to have plenty of that today
[18:22] <the_dark_warrio> erUSUL: Ok, thanks for the information
[18:22] <noobguest> Hammerhead66: I don't see how that regards my question. Not trying to be rude.
[18:22] <pushkalcodes> LjL: suppose i want to install package ABC, so first apt will check out my system for the package metadata or directly will it search the repository ?
[18:23] <erUSUL> pushkalcodes: it checks the local list that is updated everytime you use sudo aptitude update
[18:23] <noobguest> LjL: how do I perform an interrogatory of sources.list?
[18:23] <LjL> pushkalcodes: it will check your system, because the package information is on your system - it gets update when you "sudo apt-get update" (or automatically by the update manager, which checks it periodically)
[18:23] <HammerHead66> ﻿noobguest: well if this does the same thing why are yyou worried about the name
[18:23] <LjL> noobguest: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:23] <owned> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hog9qGjT0Pw owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hog9qGjT0Pw owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:23] <pushkalcodes> LjL, erUSUL: suppose i didnt update my system, and the repo has a new software, what will happen in that case ?
[18:24] <rakudave> !ot | owned
[18:24] <LjL> pushkalcodes: it won't be installed, not before you "sudo apt-get update" your list
[18:25] <lampliter> Paxt:  got samba mostly right except I need to to speak to vmnet8 not eth0
[18:25] <d35i9n> is it possible to make terminal your desktop background with intrepid?
[18:25] <pushkalcodes> LjL: shouldnt APT do an update everytime a user queries it ?
[18:26] <LjL> pushkalcodes: whether it "should" is something you should ask its developers - but it does not
[18:26] <noobguest> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/139129/
[18:26] <LjL> pushkalcodes: ok, for some reason, your Universe repository (which contains the bulk of Ubuntu packages) isn't selected, as i suspected. i'll give you back a working version of sources.list in a moment
[18:26] <pushkalcodes> LjL: I'm just suggesting... is that a bad idea ?:)
[18:27] <pushkalcodes> LjL: sure, thanks .. :)
[18:27] <noobguest> LjL: very grateful
[18:27] <LjL> pushkalcodes: i think so, because you might not even have working internet when you're using apt
[18:27] <Paxt> lampliter: gadmin-samba should not interfear with anything you do, so is more or less infinitely non-intrusive on manual adjustments
[18:27] <thrillERboy> hey guys
[18:27] <Titan8990> !hi | thrillERboy
[18:27] <Namaskar> what's an IRC client for a terminal I can download with synaptic?
[18:27] <Pici> Namaskar: irssi
[18:27] <thrillERboy> hey ubottu :)
[18:28] <Titan8990> Namaskar, irssi and bitchx
[18:28] <LjL> pushkalcodes: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/139132/
[18:28] <pushkalcodes> LjL: so the guy who dosent have internet and wants to get a new software will be quite helpless...
[18:28] <neurobuntu> Does anybody have any experience getting HDTV's working with Intrepid?
[18:28] <d35i9n> my source list http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/139131/
[18:28] <LjL> pushkalcodes: also, you may want to comment out (add a #) the first line, the one about the CD-ROM, if you don't care about using the Ubuntu CD for installing stuff
[18:28] <thrillERboy> I just installed ubuntu to my friends pc.. the highest resolution shown here is 800x600px
[18:28] <pushkalcodes> LjL: thanks !
[18:28] <Pici> Titan8990: bitchx is no longer supported and no longer in the repositories
[18:28] <ugliefrog> how do you get bluetooth headphones to work in ubuntu
[18:28] <LjL> pushkalcodes: the guy who doesn't have internet may still have a local package cache to install from
[18:28] <d35i9n> thriller does he have a graphics card?
[18:28] <thrillERboy> but, his monitor can display 1024x768
[18:28] <Titan8990> Pici, because of its security vulnerability?
[18:28] <maxxle> Hello! Can I debootstrap an Ubuntu/ARM? Or can debootstrap only be used to install a debian system?
[18:29] <Titan8990> thrillERboy, most commonly that is because it is using vesa fallback drivers
[18:29] <Pici> Titan8990: Because its no longer maintained.
[18:29] <unitedpotsmokers> hello, how to hack terminal? i mean to modify to transparent...? where i can get the tutorial?
[18:29] <Pici> !bitchx | Titan8990
[18:29] <thrillERboy> yea d35i9n nvidia geforce2 mx400
[18:29] <pushkalcodes> LjL: thats cool, you mean local cache or over a network will also do ?
[18:29] <LjL> pushkalcodes: i mean local cache - if you have a local network repository, then you can update from that
[18:30] <d35i9n> thriller go into synaptic and get the nvidia drivers that support geforce2 mx400 then u can configure xorg with nvidia-settings
[18:30] <thrillERboy> Titan8990:  I'm just starting to use linux based OS. Could you shed more light?
[18:30] <clyde> anyone who works with Python on Ubuntu 9.04?
[18:30] <ugliefrog> how do you get bluetooth headphones to work in ubuntu
[18:30] <Titan8990> thrillERboy, xserver (linux GUI) attempts to automatically detect your video card and load the driver for it, if it fails it loads the vesa driver which works with everything but has many limitations
[18:31] <LjL> !jaunty | clyde
[18:31] <Johnny1> #undernet
[18:31] <Titan8990> thrillERboy, so when autodetection doesn't work, you have to set the correct driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:31] <noobguest> LjL: did I miss that source.list line addition?
[18:31] <d35i9n> titan: why not use nvidia-settings?
[18:31] <thrillERboy> thats a lot of info Titan8990 :)
[18:31] <LjL> noobguest: i didn't add anything, i just uncommented some lines
[18:31] <Titan8990> d35i9n, not everyone has nvidia
[18:31] <d35i9n> he does i asked...
[18:31] <LjL> noobguest: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/139132/
[18:32] <Titan8990> !nvidia | thrillERboy
[18:32] <noobguest> LjL: again very grateful.
[18:32] <Titan8990> d35i9n, because he likely doesn't have the proprietary drivers yet :)
[18:32] <pushkalcodes> LjL: thanks for all the info !
[18:32] <thrillERboy> there are lot of nvidia packages in synaptic manager which one to go for
[18:32] <sara71> ciao a tutti! ::mIRC p2p::
[18:32] <LjL> !it | sara71
[18:32] <LjL> sara71: e evita di usare script imbecilli
[18:33] <d35i9n> thriller well my advice is get the nvidia drivers and nvidia-settings run as sudo and save to xorg
[18:33] <noobguest> LjL: this has been very educational.
[18:33] <d35i9n> thriller: get the one that supports the card
[18:33] <LjL> noobguest: when you've saved your new sources.list, type "sudo apt-get update", then you should be able to install testdisk
[18:33] <Titan8990> thrillERboy, use the restricted drivers manager
[18:34] <Titan8990> thrillERboy, or from the terminal:  gksu jockey-gtk
[18:34] <noobguest> LjL: ah k. would a reboot do the same thing?
[18:34] <LjL> noobguest: no
[18:34] <noobguest> LjL: if i wasnt using the live-on
[18:34] <s3r3n1t7> i've mounted .evolution and .gconf/apps/evolution on my second system from my laptop. My laptop has all the settings evolution needs including some mail, however evolution keeps insisting on running the wizard first. Apparently it doesn't recognize the data from my laptop.
[18:34] <d35i9n> how do i get terminal as my desktop background?
[18:35] <marcrosoft> Is there a jaunty specific channel?
[18:35] <Pici> marcrosoft: #ubuntu+1
[18:36] <marcrosoft> Pici: Thanks!
[18:36] <anto9us> s3r3n1t7, have you checked ownership and permissions of the mounted files?
[18:36] <cemc> i have a HP laptop with intel wireless 4965agn, and it doesn't work with my linksys AP
[18:36] <thrillERboy> Titan8990: I get no prop drivers available when i do gksu jockey-gtk
[18:37] <maxxle> Is there an officical ubuntu port for ARM?
[18:37] <thrillERboy> I got nvidia settings installed now d35i9n, what next?
[18:37] <thrillERboy> My monitor is not detected as well
[18:37] <owned> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hog9qGjT0Pw owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:37] <owned> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hog9qGjT0Pw owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:37] <owned> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hog9qGjT0Pw owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:37] <FloodBot2> owned: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <d35i9n> thriller in terminal type sudo nvidia-settings then set the res and save to xorg
[18:38] <s3r3n1t7> anto9us, ofcourse. The ownership is set to the user who mounted the remote filesystem.
[18:38] <haytham-med> hi all, when i kill xbmc it isnot killed?
[18:38] <ugliefrog> how do you get bluetooth headphones to work in ubuntu
[18:38] <quipster> kill -9 pid
[18:38] <quipster> killall -TERM xbmc
[18:38] <quipster> :)
[18:38] <usser> cemc, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[18:39] <haytham-med> ok thx
[18:39] <cemc> usser: 8.10, 64bit
[18:39] <anto9us> s3r3n1t7, did you try working on local copies of the files?
[18:39] <d35i9n> ugliefrog check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Bluetooth
[18:39] <cemc> usser: and the card seems to work, I can see like 6 APs all around my place, I just can't see my AP :)
[18:40] <cemc> but on windows (same laptop) and on another laptop it's working fine
[18:40] <Mark_Jones> Can anyone say if I need to check online somewhere to see if some PCI-USB cards are compatible with Ubuntu or are those all pretty well supported?
[18:40] <thrillERboy> I get this message "you don't seem to use nvidia xserver"
[18:40] <mxmasster> hello
[18:40] <cemc> usser: and when i start wpa_gui, it can't connect to wpa_supplicant (which is also running)
[18:40] <mxmasster> with 904 almost out
[18:41] <mxmasster> curious if there are a list of changes available for the UNR
[18:41] <erUSUL> Mark_Jones: all should be supported they follow standar interfaces uhci or ohci
[18:41] <mxmasster> curious if it is worth upgrading
[18:41] <mxmasster> early
[18:41] <Mark_Jones> ok I figured.
[18:41] <Mark_Jones> Thank you.
[18:41] <s3r3n1t7> anto9us, yes. The laptop did the initial setup of the accounts which are set in evolution. I used sshfs to mount the 2 folders on my desktop. This has worked fine for pidgin and firefox, but evolution seems to be more troublesome.
[18:41] <usser> cemc, try compiling the latest driver from here http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/ it wont overwrite or in any way harm your kernel, you can safely delete it if it doesnt work out
[18:41] <thrillERboy> I don't see restricted driver manager under administration
[18:41] <thrillERboy> any help?
[18:42] <gaintsura> how do I unrar while preserving the paths inside the rar file?
[18:42] <brandon___> how do i get perl from apt-get?
[18:42] <usser> cemc, you need the compat-wireless package sorry http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download#DownloadlatestLinuxwirelessdrivers
[18:43] <gaintsura> brandon___: apt-get install perl ?
[18:43] <brandon___> yes thank you
[18:43] <gaintsura> or apt-cache search perl and then apt-get install what you need
[18:43] <erUSUL> brandon___: perl is already installed on all ubuntu systems
[18:43] <Mark_Jones> One last thing is that I have a motherboard here with USB 1.1 headers for front USB ports, and I noticed that most newer PCI-USB cards have internal ports but no headers in order to change my front ports to USB 2.0, is there any solution to this?The cards mostly have internal jacks and not headers from what I have seen.
[18:43] <brandon___> oh okat.
[18:43] <brandon___> okay.
[18:43] <gaintsura> nbm
[18:43] <gaintsura> nvm*
[18:44] <brandon___> and one more thing
[18:44] <brandon___> would it be
[18:44] <erUSUL> Mark_Jones: no solution that i know of. have been on the same situation as you
[18:44] <Mark_Jones> ok
[18:44] <erUSUL> !enter | brandon___
[18:44] <kevin_zhongg> hmm, why do I get "Error: Wrong Architecture i386" when installing Flash?
[18:44] <brandon___> sudo apt-get install desktop-xchat?
[18:44] <Mark_Jones> Well thats all for now.Thank you guys.
[18:45] <Titan8990> kevin_zhongg, you are trying to install A) 64bit flash on a 32bit system B) 32bit flash on a 64bit system
[18:45] <Picassotamus> kevin_zhong: are you on x64 arch/
[18:45] <erUSUL> kevin_zhongg: becouse you are trying to install the 64 bit version on 32 bit machine or viceversa?
[18:45] <usser> cemc, its pretty easy to get going, the only requirement pretty much is that kernel headers are to be installed on your system
[18:45] <Akuw> how can i Install the OpenOffice.org updates
[18:45] <kevin_zhongg> my arch is x86_64, but my pc is a 32-bit
[18:45] <erUSUL> brandon___: sudo apt-get install xchat
[18:45] <erUSUL> !software | brandon___
[18:45] <anto9us> s3r3n1t7, clutching at straws, I'd probably check to see if all mail servers can be resolved from that machine
[18:45] <Titan8990> kevin_zhongg, if your PC only supported 32bit, you wouldn't be able to boot 64bit
[18:46] <noobguest> When running testdisk should I specify a intel partition architecture?
[18:46] <Titan8990> kevin_zhongg, you are running a 64bit os and must install 64bit apps
[18:46] <brandon___> okay it's telling me E: Couldn't find package xchat
[18:46] <kevin_zhongg> I installed Ubuntu from Wubi,
[18:46] <kevin_zhongg> ok....
[18:46] <noobguest> sorry table type not architecture.
[18:46] <kevin_zhongg> idk how that happened, my XP is 32bit
[18:46] <kevin_zhongg> is there Flash for 64-bit
[18:46] <unitedpotsmokers> hello, im now configuring compiz. what 'crash handler' mean?
[18:46] <s3r3n1t7> anto9us, hmm doubt thats the problem, since it gives me that first-time-you-ran-this-program wizard ... i'll jst keep on looking probably
[18:46] <erUSUL> kevin_zhongg: yes it is beta iirc
[18:46] <Titan8990> kevin_zhongg, then that is what you should get
[18:47] <kevin_zhongg> that is so weird, this is the second time I install Ubuntu, and before none of this happened
[18:47] <Titan8990> kevin_zhongg, its very simple... you installed 64bit and need 64bit apps....
[18:48] <kevin_zhongg> ok, thanks!
[18:48] <Titan8990> kevin_zhongg, gl
[18:48] <erUSUL> kevin_zhongg: to install flash just sdo "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree "
[18:48] <joejc> how do i control what volume my multimedia volume keys control?
[18:48] <kevin_zhongg> ill give that a shot
[18:48] <erUSUL> kevin_zhongg: it would do the correct thing
[18:48] <unitedpotsmokers> titan : if i install ubuntu 64, i can only run 64 bit application?
[18:48] <brandon___> erUSUL: any idea's
[18:48] <kevin_zhongg> this is what I get: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:48] <kevin_zhongg> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:49] <mattgyver83> is there a way to conver a .img to .iso file?
[18:49] <kevin_zhongg> oh, could it be that I am updating Ubuntu?
[18:49] <Aggrav8d> hi, everybody!  I upgraded 8.04->8.10 and didn't reboot my windows machine for 4 days.  Now that I have I find my samba share doesn't work.  I'm really stupid and don't know how to diagnose the trouble. can someone please help me?
[18:49] <erUSUL> !info xchat | brandon___
[18:49] <unitedpotsmokers> kevin_zhongg, : that mean u must close another application runnning
[18:49] <kevin_zhongg> ok, thanks
[18:49] <erUSUL> brandon___: which version of ubuntu? xchat has been there for ages
[18:49] <Aggrav8d> i'm running samba 3.2.3 in a non-gui environment, if that helps.
[18:49] <brandon___> 8.10
[18:49] <anto9us> unitedpotsmokers, as much as I'm in favour of unity for people with a common interest, I suspect your nickname isn't appropriate for this channel mate
[18:49] <ScottG489> Does anyone here have experience with Xinerama? I'm trying to get it to work with compiz (if that  possible)
[18:50] <erUSUL> brandon___: it has to be there
[18:50] <lenswipe> can someone help me with KompZer plz
[18:50] <joejc> how do i control what volume my multimedia volume keys control?
[18:50] <levidos> hello. please tell me how can i change the jack assignment on my sound card, eg. the blue one to be the sound output. can't find any info on google...
[18:51] <unitedpotsmokers> i also remember when i install windows 64bit long time ago, we can also install 32bit application... there are 2 folder 32bit n 64 folder... i think ubuntu also can do also
[18:52] <anto9us> joejc, System | Preferences | Sound, Default Mixer Tracks
[18:52] <unitedpotsmokers> im new in linux, but kevin_zhongg , if u have many problem with 64, i think u go back to 32bit system..
[18:53] <kevin_zhongg>  
[18:53] <unitedpotsmokers> kevin_zhongg, what is different with ubuntu 64 u are using now?
[18:53] <kevin_zhongg> from the one I had before?
[18:53] <unitedpotsmokers> are they faster?
[18:54] <erUSUL> unitedpotsmokers: kevin_zhongg it can do it yes (installl 32 bit apps in 64 bit system) in fact the flash you install via "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree " on 64 bit systems is 32 bits but the package takes care of setting up everything for you
[18:54] <kevin_zhongg> I don't know which one I installed, I just did the process through wubi
[18:54] <Chakravanti> hey does ups deliver? =)
[18:54] <Chakravanti> lol couldnt help myself =)
[18:54] <unitedpotsmokers> oh ic... thanks erUSUL
[18:55] <zilleplus_> hey got problem with ubuntu server 8 i got IP adress on server but no internet
[18:55] <zilleplus_> why is this
[18:55] <zilleplus_> i got network to
[18:55] <unitedpotsmokers> ok kevin_zhongg , do like erUSUL  said.. u need to install flash non free
[18:55] <Chakravanti> I'm on live cd trying to  use data recovery to get my stuff from an encrypted patition
[18:56] <Chakravanti> it doesnt seem to recognize sda4 which is what i thought the partition was
[18:56] <kevin_zhongg> yeah, im doing it. if only I had faster internet =P
[18:56] <Chakravanti> maybe its not what command do i use to look im drawing a black here
[18:56] <fevel> Can anyone help me configure heartbeat?
[18:57] <unitedpotsmokers> take ur time kevin_zhongg , i wait for the result.. :)
[18:57] <kevin_zhongg> :)
[18:57] <kevin_zhongg> I have had so much troubles with XP, I downgraded from Vista because I hated it, and I have this virus now on XP, and can't get rid of it, thats why I'm in here :)
[18:57] <Chakravanti> something to list my parittion table...
[18:57] <bluejaw> hey guys.. does anyone know how to configure iptables to block outgoing traffic from a single directory on my local server?
[18:58] <levidos> hello. please tell me how can i change the jack assignment on my sound card, eg. the blue whole to be the sound output instead of line-in. can't find any info on google... i'm using pulseaudio btw
[18:58] <Aggrav8d> can anyone please help me figure out why samba won't let me connect from my xp box any more?  it died when i upgraded 8.04 to 8.10.
[18:58] <unitedpotsmokers> kevin_zhongg, what ur feel with your 64bit OS?
[18:58] <kevin_zhongg> Well, I could say its faster
[18:58] <kevin_zhongg> it could probably be faster if I had Ubuntu in my internal hard drive, I have it on my external hard drive :)
[18:58] <tesseracter> hello! im getting ticked about the bottom panel click behavior. first click minimizes, second click brings to front. what i want is: if in foreground, minimize, if in background, bring to front, if minimized, bring to front. any way of doing this?
[18:59] <Silverwing> hey, does anyone know what address I should contact when I need some info about canonical's marketing strategy (I also need balances) for school, if they want to tell me such things?
[18:59] <zilleplus_> hey got problem with ubuntu server 8 i got IP adress on server but no internet but i ame in my router's dhcp server so i ame in the network with internet
[18:59] <kevin_zhongg> hey, I'm considering installing Ubuntu Server edition on another pc we have at home, is it good? (Dumb question, I know)
[18:59] <rconan> anyone know how to get wine to correctly render the fonts in steam apps?
[18:59] <unitedpotsmokers> kevin_zhongg, : yeah same with me... i used windows xp many years, but i bored with kaspersky antivirus, search the license when it blacklist... now i use ubuntu and make windows with virtualbox...
[19:00] <kevin_zhongg> you can run windows on Ubuntu?
[19:00] <fevel> yes
[19:00] <unitedpotsmokers> kevin_zhongg, : i never try server edition.. but i heard from my friends they said, ubuntu server dont have GUI
[19:00] <kevin_zhongg> im not talking about dual boot
[19:00] <Silverwing> kevin, yes with virtualisation such as VirtualBox
[19:00] <kevin_zhongg> Oh
[19:01] <kevin_zhongg> Oh, I see, thnx Silverwing
[19:01] <JEEBcz> and some apps run native :3
[19:01] <unitedpotsmokers> kevin_zhongg, : yess.. i run windows in ubuntu... for just in case
[19:01] <noobguest> If I do a pastebin can someone explain my testdisk detailed output to me?
[19:01] <JEEBcz> (via wine)
[19:01] <Jeruvy> unitedpotsmokers: the server install does not install a gui desktop, but you may add it.
[19:01] <Silverwing> It requires a lot of RAM and a Multi core processor is like required
[19:01] <Chakravanti> how do i list my partition table from commmand line?
[19:01] <unitedpotsmokers> ah.. ic
[19:01] <lenswipe> anyone????
[19:01] <fevel> does anyone know heartbeat?
[19:01] <genii> Chakravanti: sudo fdisk -l
[19:01] <kevin_zhongg> i see, I only have 1.5 processor, not very good for that I think
[19:01] <Chakravanti> ty genii
[19:01] <Silverwing> nope :D
[19:01] <genii> Chakravanti: You're welcome
[19:02] <noobguest> Can someone explain my testdisk output to me?
[19:02] <noobguest> Im trying to fix an unbootable HD
[19:02] <Silverwing> I got a P4 3Ghz and it's also pretty slow
[19:02] <kevin_zhongg> unitedpotsomker, flash is intalling still
[19:02] <zilleplus_> hey got problem with ubuntu server 8 i got IP adress on server but no internet but i ame in my router's dhcp server so i ame in the network with internet
[19:02] <unitedpotsmokers> kevin_zhongg, : at least u must try 1st
[19:02] <Silverwing> noobguest, when did this problem occur?
[19:02] <kevin_zhongg> :D
[19:02] <Silverwing> after a windows installation?
[19:02] <thrillERboy> How to find which package in synaptic manager is compatible with the nvidia card I've?
[19:02] <kevin_zhongg> Download done.
[19:02] <kevin_zhongg> Flash Plugin installed.
[19:02] <kevin_zhongg> Setting up lib32nss-mdns (0.10-3ubuntu2) ...
[19:02] <kevin_zhongg> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[19:02] <kevin_zhongg> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[19:02] <FloodBot2> kevin_zhongg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:03] <emacspy> Hello, I have just bought a used laptop and want to put linux on it. The problem is the BIOS is passworded. Its a newer laptop so cmos batt cannot be taken out probably. Im afraid to try any killcmos type app. I am using data recovery now to maybe link a password as it boots to windows. Is there any easy fix to get into the BIOS?
[19:03] <kevin_zhongg> sorry, I forgot that link :|
[19:03] <unitedpotsmokers> it will not disturb current OS
[19:03] <Jeruvy> zilleplus_: can you pastebin your ifconfig output?
[19:03] <Silverwing> Thrillerboy, just use the Hardware Drivers dialog. It's much easier.
[19:03] <noobguest> Silverwing: no PC is dell make I attempted to do a Ubuntu live cd install using the entire HD (guided install) and I have been unable to produce a boot from bios or from CD.
[19:04] <noobguest> Silverwing: I have tried the install twice to the same effect.
[19:04] <kevin_zhongg> unitedpotsmoker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139135/
[19:04] <ScottG489> Does anyone here have experience with Xinerama? I'm trying to get it to work with compiz (if that  possible)
[19:04] <Silverwing> noobguest, Are you sure your PC meets the system requirements?
[19:04] <BadHorsie> hum I'm having problems with ALSA, OSS works fine tho... lspci -v shows snd-hda-intel module is being used, tried the asound.state copy trick from another computer with same hardware (debian tho) and didn't work
[19:04] <thrillERboy> Silverwing: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system :/
[19:05] <kevin_zhongg> yay, I can watch youtube now! Thanks guys!
[19:05] <noobguest> Silverwing: its possible that it doesn't however I assumed that linux being linux it would work.
[19:05] <pushkalcodes> Hi ! if all sources of APT (internet and local cache, network repo) are down and the user wants to install a new software (new means added on the web repository, but since we didnt update the repo information on oursystem, it wont be listed on our system), then he can't do it right ?
[19:05] <unitedpotsmokers> hehe alriteee enjoy..
[19:05] <kevin_zhongg> :D
[19:05] <verk> hi, i'm trying to upgrade libasound to the jaunty packages (i'm on 8.10). i'm using prevu for libasound2-dev and i keep getting errors: "Remove the following packages: pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy"
[19:05] <Silverwing> Thrillerboy, had the problem too.. try the envy scripts. You can find them in synaptics
[19:05] <levidos> hello. please tell me how can i change the jack assignment on my sound card, eg. the blue whole to be the sound output instead of line-in. can't find any info on google... i'm using pulseaudio btw
[19:06] <OSUKid7> hi, I just setup LDAPS+Kerberos authentication to a Windows AD server with PAM, and it works great, except after I reboot the system, I can't login as an LDAP user until I restart the networking service - even if I wait several minutes, it doesn't allow AD users to login. as soon as I restart networking though, it works. any hints on where to troubleshoot this?
[19:06] <noobguest> Silverwing: back to the testdisk output however there appears to be a ntfs partition despite repartitioning twice and I was hoping for some explanation.
[19:06] <zilleplus_> hey got problem with ubuntu server 8 i got IP adress on server but no internet but i ame in my router's dhcp server so i ame in the network with internet
[19:06] <pushkalcodes> LjL:Hi ! if all sources of APT (internet and local cache, network repo) are down and the user wants to install a new software (new means added on the web repository, but since we didnt update the repo information on oursystem, it wont be listed on our system), then he can't do it right ?
[19:06] <Silverwing> noobguest, I guess I´m too noob too to fix this problem, sorry :S
[19:07] <thrillERboy> Silverwing: I don't see any results for envy in synaptic manager
[19:07] <oCean_> pushkalcodes: well, ehm.. the theory is correct. However, one could still go to packages.ubuntu.com to find out if newer versions are available and download
[19:07] <LjL> pushkalcodes: no, he can't, of course
[19:07] <noobguest> Silverwing: thanks for trying.
[19:07] <Silverwing> Thrillerboy: strange.. try to download them (just google for it)
[19:07] <Silverwing> noobguest, good luck
[19:08] <pushkalcodes> i see, ty, oCean_, LjL
[19:08] <slask> So, I am trying to use the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros to enable the ath5k driver for my wifi card since I believe that ath9k is what causes my fresh 8.10 AMD64 system to completely freeze. I have installed the linux-backports-modules-intrepid package but I cannot find anything except nVidia stuff in System/Adminstration/Hardware Drivers where I am supposed to activate the driver. What to do?
[19:08] <JW> What package provides /usr/src/linux/include ?
[19:08] <tobywuk_> is anyone running ubuntu on a Macbook Pro V4?
[19:08] <Silverwing> JW, I guess linux-headers or kernel-sources. Not sure though
[19:09] <tobywuk_> anyone running ubuntu on a mbp?
[19:11] <guvil> hello
[19:11] <s3r3n1t7> How do i specify the mount option for sshfs in fstab? Normally i'd add them to the mount command with -o, but in fstab i'm unsure where to put them. Do they go where the other options go as well, such as user?
[19:11] <guvil> can any of U tell me why I cant watch videos on my browser?
[19:11] <BadHorsie> pushkalcodes: if the sources for APT are down you wouldn't be able to fetch "new" packages/updates or download anything at all from them wouldn't you think?
[19:12] <Silverwing> guvil, you may need to install flash player.
[19:12] <black-bullet> i want to install ubuntu 8.10 but if i choose try ubuntu or install from boot menu i get only white screen
[19:12] <guvil> I just did
[19:12] <BadHorsie> guvil: did you restart browser after installation?
[19:12] <BadHorsie> take a look at the handler for swf files as well.
[19:12] <guvil> how can I do that?just close and open it again?
[19:12] <oCean_> s3r3n1t7: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[19:12] <black-bullet> i want to install ubuntu 8.10 but if i choose try ubuntu or install from boot menu i get only white screen
[19:13] <BadHorsie> guvil: yes, every instance of the browser.
[19:13] <pushkalcodes> BadHorsie: yes, thats what i asked, if the sources are down then we cant download a newly released software
[19:13] <guvil> thx
[19:14] <black-bullet> md5 and check CD for errors both said that cd is ok
[19:14] <BadHorsie> pushkalcodes: isn't that obvious tho? if you can't reach google you just can't google.
[19:15] <s3r3n1t7> oCean_, although the page is very useful, it does not hold the info i need i'm afraid. The folders i'm mounting are not empty as a fall back principle, thus i need to add the nonempty option to sshfs. I'm not sure where to add it, since it's not a default mounting option.
[19:15] <odder> BadHorsie: if you can't google, you can't talk on irc...
[19:15] <black-bullet> white screen...
[19:15] <thrillERboy> will my monitor automatically detected if I install my graphic card?
[19:16] <BadHorsie> black-bullet: try Ctrl + Alt + F1 to go to a console
[19:16] <black-bullet> and where to from there?
[19:17] <BadHorsie> black-bullet: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:17] <BadHorsie> and take a look at the Driver being used...
[19:17] <Silverwing> Thrillerboy: If you install the drivers correctly it will.
[19:17] <BadHorsie> I've seen a few cases where you have to change from nvidia to nv if you're using nvidia card tho...
[19:17] <oCean_> s3r3n1t7: ok. But options to mount go in the 4th field of fstab line.
[19:17] <judget_> The other night I tried to use the bot on this channel and I received a warning to only use it in private can someone clarify that for me please?
[19:17] <Mion> black-bullet: what card?
[19:18] <s3r3n1t7> oCean_, even those for sshfs? hmm ok
[19:18] <black-bullet> ati HD4850
[19:18] <Mion> judget_: /query  the bot
[19:18] <oCean_> s3r3n1t7: well, not totally sure in this case, but you could try I guess?
[19:18] <s3r3n1t7> oCean_, yeah i guess
[19:18] <Jeruvy> !bot | judget_
[19:18] <Silverwing> ah great, ubuntu finished downloading :D
[19:19] <BadHorsie> hum when is Jaunty gonna be released as stable?
[19:19] <thrillERboy> yea... this is what I got "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)
[19:19] <thrillERboy> " when I did,  lspci | grep VGA
[19:19] <Silverwing> Badhorsie, 23th April
[19:19] <BadHorsie> nice
[19:20] <Silverwing> at least it's the planned date
[19:20] <oCean_> BadHorsie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule
[19:20] <oCean_> BadHorsie: keep in mind, that is a planning. It's ready when it's ready
[19:21] <Silverwing> as it should be
[19:21] <guvil> hello,what was the name for the flash plugin, if I want to install it from the add and remove?
[19:21] <oCean_> guvil: flashplugin-nonfree
[19:21] <guvil> thx alot
[19:22] <BadHorsie> oCean_: well, i have it at home already, just saw lots of upgrades this morning and was curious
[19:22] <BadHorsie> looks pretty nice for being still unstable/testing
[19:22] <oCean_> BadHorsie: yesterday was beta release
[19:23] <usser> BadHorsie, yea its beta upgrades
[19:23] <skellar> hi all
[19:23] <Silverwing> BadHorsie: I used it since the first alphas and It´s really good working. There were some nvidia issues at the 3th alpha but all other alpha releases were great
[19:23] <guvil> not there
[19:23] <Silverwing> gotta go
[19:23] <Silverwing> cu
[19:23] <guvil>  flashplugin-nonfree
[19:23] <The_Joe_> Quick question - if I was to get the Jaunty Beta, could I upgrade to the final when it comes out or do I need to install it fresh over the beta?
[19:24] <Silverwing> The_Joe, you can upgrade it.
[19:24] <The_Joe_> Okie doke
[19:24] <The_Joe_> Thanks
[19:24] <Silverwing> nope
[19:24] <Shapaklekas> hi
[19:24] <riwa> I just downloaded a program called keymapper but it's not in my $PATH. How can I check what programs a package installed?
[19:24] <BadHorsie> Silverwing: I believe the only problems I had was when trying to use compizfussion-plugins-nonsupported or whatever the name is haha, nothing compared to sid on unstability
[19:24] <BadHorsie> s/unstability/unusability
[19:25] <guvil> hello, I could not use my browser to watch videos, eventhough I have installed flash plugin
[19:25] <Chakravanti> does anyone know why i cant find package gddrescue from aptitude apt-get or synaptic on 8.10 live cd?
[19:25] <Chakravanti> i've enabled all reposiories
[19:26] <BadHorsie> guvil: what browser are you using?
[19:26] <guvil> opera
[19:26] <mezy> i can not mount my a partition on my hdd, saying that according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media/disk
[19:26] <BadHorsie> guvil: take a look at /home/sebas/.opera/pluginpath.ini
[19:26] <oCean_> !info gddrescue
[19:27] <BadHorsie> usually flashplugin goes inside the directory /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[19:27] <BadHorsie> guvil: make sure you have a line such as /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins=1
[19:27] <usser> guvil, you need to tell opera where to look for plugins
[19:27] <BadHorsie> in the [Path] section
[19:27] <Chakravanti> i have universe enabled
[19:27] <usser> guvil, you can also do it from tool->preferences->advanced->content->plugin options from within opera itself
[19:28] <BadHorsie> lol I said /home/sebas/.opera/pluginpath.ini instead of ~/.opera/pluginpath.ini
[19:29] <shabbs> is there a patch/update through ubuntu for the CUPS bug which prints landscape items upside down instead of in landscape?
[19:29] <MrSunshine> ffs the disk performance freakin gets worse and worse for each kernel release these days
[19:29] <MrSunshine> :/
[19:29] <MrSunshine> now it takes AGES to decompress a movie, before it only took ages ...
[19:29] <MrSunshine> and before that it was fast as hell :/
[19:30] <MrSunshine> iowaits % of 90+ ...
[19:30] <MrSunshine> how fun is that :/
[19:30] <Huufarted> Can somebody tell me the appropriate package to apt-get to install KDE?
[19:31] <usser> MrSunshine, one word. BSD
[19:31] <zilleplus_> hey got problem with ubuntu server 8 i got IP adress on server but no internet but i ame in my router's dhcp server so i ame in the network with internet
[19:31] <BadHorsie> Huufarted: maybe kde-core or something around it, kubuntu-desktop might be easier
[19:31] <hybr1der> when i check my system monitor i see that python is using almost all my cpu power why is that?
[19:32] <harahauk> evening
[19:32] <BadHorsie> morning
[19:32] <Huufarted> BadHorsie, thanks.  I think I've seen others use kubuntu-desktop so I'll give that one a shot.  :)  Thanks...  time to soak up my employer's bandwidth
[19:32] <usser> hybr1der, python maybe responsible for a lot of issues, a program written in python, package manager uses python, it can be pretty much anything
[19:32] <hybr1der> and could someone help me understand the cpu scale on linux when it says 1.45, what is that?
[19:32] <harahauk> just have to say jausty alpha is awesome:) finally a distro where my wireless works perfectly
[19:32] <BadHorsie> Huufarted: have... fun I guess
[19:32] <hybr1der> okay
[19:32] <need_help`> anyone know in squid here thx.
[19:32] <Chakravanti> nvm i got it...packages need updating =p
[19:33] <nailora> hybr1der: run top or htop to see the exact command. as usser said, python per se may be nearly everything
[19:33] <Huufarted> BadHorsie: just kinda getting annoyed because Gnome makes me feel like a little kid with how it doesn't let me change a ton of settings.  It's a rather condescending desktop manager.
[19:34] <amadeus> Hello I am trying to compile a wine pkg, but it keeps asking for more and dependencies, I typed sudo apt-get install build-essential but I still need more dependencies, what am I doing wrong? It was X libs or something it also wanted bison and flex.
[19:34] <usser> amadeus, sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[19:34] <amadeus> thanks
[19:34] <BadHorsie> Huufarted: well... I prefer gnome to KDE IF I need a desktop-manager, I'm happy enough with fluxbox
[19:34] <amadeus> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[19:35] <genii> amadeus: You're not just installing wine by adding therir repository to your sources.list and using the package manager?
[19:35] <usser> amadeus, that should install all the dependencies needed for wine. But its for the version in the repos, dependencies might have changed in newer versions of wine, nevertheless that should get most of it
[19:35] <amadeus> genii: I am using wine-git
[19:35] <darkfile1> hi all, just a quick question: can the jaunty CD create a encrypted filesys
[19:35] <darkfile1> or will i need the alternate cd?
[19:35] <docid> BadHorsie,  im of a simular mind, xfce is good enough for me if multimonito support for my card worked right in it id still be useing it, but after playing with KDE4.? that ships with fedora 10, im starting to change my mind
[19:35] <Huufarted> BadHorsie: Just want to give both a test drive.  Don't know until I try them both.
[19:36] <darkfile1> xfce is great if you got low ram
[19:36] <amadeus> the reason I want to compile my own wine is because I don't have alsa drivers in my winecfg for some reason, no sound.
[19:36] <darkfile1> i use it on my lowram notebook ;)
[19:36] <docid> yeah...olny 1 gig on this box..its tough...
[19:36] <amadeus> and I am using wine 1.1.7
[19:36] <amadeus> I mean 1.1.17
[19:36] <darkfile1> how about the whole disk encryption with the Jaunty CD?
[19:36] <gran`> hi im trying to use my laptop speakers as sound for my xbox, not sure which setting to change, any help?
[19:36] <darkfile1> can the graphical installer do, or will i need the alternate?
[19:37] <docid> was useing xfce, liked it alot, but i run gnome now...its a thinkpad A30....p3-1130mhz, 1 gig of ram, actually is really fast even with an xp vbox open along with tons of other stuff
[19:37] <docid> im kind of amazed everyday as to how responsive it is, even when the load is nearing 10
[19:37] <darkfile1> can no one help me with my encryption question???
[19:38] <amadeus> genii: What can I do to get my wine to use alsa, alsa is not in the winecfg just something called NAS, which doesn't help me i'm afraid.
[19:38] <docid> darkfile1, dont know on that one
[19:38] <darkfile1> hm
[19:38] <darkfile1> ok i will download the standard one and let me surprise
[19:38] <grandemahatma> hallo there
[19:38] <kid> Oh my god! Is anyone chinese?
[19:38] <grandemahatma> no..
[19:38] <genii> amadeus: I don't bother using wine, so not much help there
[19:38] <docid> kid, yeah, over a billion people are
[19:39] <Chakravanti> how do i rename a usb hard drive?  the curent one is causing me problems because i has a space in it (Freeagent Dive)
[19:39] <Mion> docid: +1
[19:39] <amadeus> genii: thaks
[19:39] <genii> amadeus: For specifically wine-related questions however, the channel #winehq is likely better to ask in than here
[19:39] <kid> 是吗，这句话有人能认识吗？
[19:39] <Mion> Chakravanti: how is the space a problem?
[19:39] <amadeus> genii: well they can't help me I asked them
[19:39] <docid> i actually use jack with wine, but dont use wine much anymore now that i got vbox working well
[19:39] <Pici> !zh | kid
[19:39] <Chakravanti> ddrescue returns ddrescue:too many files
[19:40] <grawity> Chakravanti: Have you tried putting quotes around it?
[19:40] <amadeus> docid: does vbox work well with jack? I hope so
[19:40] <Chakravanti> will do ty
[19:40] <kid> docid ,can you speak chinese?
[19:40] <grandemahatma> I've heard you can download stuff from IRC channels, such as movie, applications, games.. I wonder if these downloads are crypted or not.. somebody could explain me?
[19:40] <bruenig> grandemahatma: pretty sure they aren't
[19:40] <docid> dunno amadeus , it works well with wine, i use it to play portal and alflife
[19:40] <bruenig> grandemahatma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Client-to-Client
[19:40] <docid> dunno if it works with vbox though
[19:41] <riwa> Why can't i access my console with ^-alt F1?
[19:41] <gran`> hi im trying to use my laptop speakers as sound for my xbox, worked on intrepid and hardy but im not sure what settings to change on jaunty?
[19:41] <grandemahatma> bruenig: thanks I'll have a look
[19:41] <docid> kid, sorry, no i do not
[19:41] <Chakravanti> that works but now ddrescue returns: Cannot open input file: not a  directory
[19:41] <Chakravanti> /dev/sda4
[19:41] <amadeus> docid: yes but do you use vbox with jack? I'm running around and around with wine and jack.
[19:41] <mezy> i can not mount a partition on my hdd, saying that according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media/disk
[19:41] <kid> thanks docid. So I have to study english hard.
[19:42] <amadeus> docid: does vbox allow windows app to connect to jack
[19:42] <Chakravanti> which is the encrypted patition i'm trying to resuce
[19:42] <Chakravanti> partition
[19:42] <Mion> mezy: cat /proc/mounts and see if it really is mounted or not
[19:42] <docid> amadeus, not that i know of, it might
[19:42] <gost> in french is possible please?
[19:42] <amadeus> docid: ok thanks
[19:42] <gost> cool
[19:42] <Pici> !fr | gost
[19:43] <mezy> Mion: i cant tell if it is...
[19:44] <docid> amadeus, im still trying to figgure out how to make jack plumbing auto route new audio connections through jackrack so i can process sound without patchage rewireing, cant seem to get regular expressions right in the config
[19:44] <Chakravanti> hmm...same return for /dev/sda/
[19:44] <Mion> mezy: if the partion isn't in there, then it isn't mounted
[19:44] <kid> I like linux ,but I'm alone
[19:44] <SuperSquirrel> Whats ubuntu do when it finds a bad bug?
[19:44] <LondonKyPotsie> it squashes the BUG!!!!
[19:44] <SuperSquirrel> bad block i mean
[19:44] <Mion> mezy: /proc/mounts lists all the mounted partions on your system
[19:44] <docid> kid, no where near it, its sweeping the world eh.....its come a LONG ways in the last few years
[19:45] <mezy> Mion: i get the same error with i try mount /dev/sda2
[19:45] <Chakravanti> got it! ty all vm =)
[19:45] <amadeus> docid: lol I want that to, I want to know how to make jack keep those connections, its like saying "ok In real life, I'll plug this jack into my yahama and this into my midi router and then a bunch of other stuff and then after you through with it, all connections just come out and fall to floor lol
[19:45] <guvil> I cannot find flashplugin-nonfree in the add and remove
[19:45] <Mion> mezy: is the partion listed in /proc/mounts? yes/no
[19:45] <odder> guvil: try apt-get
[19:46] <grawity> guvil: Try running this on Terminal: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:46] <mezy> Mion: no
[19:46] <Mion> mezy: then remove it from mtab, and mount it
[19:46] <docid> amadeus, exactally, i know its doable from  jack.plumbing ...i just havent worked it out yet
[19:46] <docid> when i figgure it out ill keep an eye out for ya and let ya know how i did it
[19:46] <Mion> but the real question is why it's listed in mtab
[19:47] <amadeus> docid: lol It took me three months just to get jack to work in different distos on linux, finially got it to work. Jack I mean.
[19:47] <docid> amadeus, i cant stand to listen to music on my box without tube warmth, expander, vitalizer and other processing anymore..it just sounds so dead, soo lifeless
[19:47] <epaphus> guys, how can I install the java runtime in UBuntu???
[19:47] <kid> hmm..docid can we make friends?
[19:47] <amadeus> docid: and when wine does produce sound in jack, I can only get mono. weird
[19:47] <MenZa> !java | epaphus
[19:47] <Mion> epaphus: install openjdk6
[19:48] <docid> amadeus, odd, works pretty well for me....ive got an emu101k based card, mabey that is playing in my favor
[19:48] <guvil> is there any graphical download manager, Like IDM in windows?
[19:48] <amadeus> docid: have you heard Royksopp? If you have they have the warmest sounds i have heard in like 20 years, its because they use vintage eq, good for them, its good someone has finially brought this back.
[19:48] <docid> kid, sure, ill be your frind, but i dont have huge time to chat right now, about to deal with some major telco gear changeovers, i just chatting here so i dont get involved in anything before this starts in the next few
[19:49] <mezy> Mion: i dont know how
[19:49] <docid> amadeus, home stereo is tube gear here, and analog processors
[19:49] <master> do i need the program network setting in oder to get on line
[19:49] <Mion> mezy: it's just a text file
[19:50] <Mion> mezy: sudo "$EDITOR /etc/mtab"
[19:50] <amadeus> docid: I have noticed that vsti and vst really don't have that well punch. But I have been playing with synthedit and making my own vsts, I must say its very impressive.
[19:50] <Chakravanti> grr...now after copying about 37k of data it returns: Error opening logfile /media/FreeAgent Drive/ rescue.log for writing: No such file or directory
[19:50] <guvil> how can I use  graphical download manager, Like IDM in windows?
[19:50] <docid> amadeus, i wish i could find psytrance that was produced in the kind of fidelity where it could really take advantage of the gear...meh
[19:50] <Chakravanti> so i created  rescue.log as a black file for it....same return
[19:50] <Chakravanti> blank*
[19:50] <grawity> guvil: If you're using Firefox, I recommend DownThemAll.
[19:50] <jardi> I'm trying to respond to the call for suspend/hibernate testing, but I have some questions
[19:50] <Wifi> Hi, i really need some help here, i have installe the driver but still when i click on "wifi-radar" then nothing happends, it ask for my password, and after that nothing happends :( Please help if you got some time :)
[19:51] <amadeus> docid: DaftPunk I think has that warm sound too.
[19:51] <guvil> U mean
[19:51] <jardi> the test says "machine will suspend for 20 seconds", does it means that the machine will resume itself after 20 sec ? or do I need to do something to wake it up ?
[19:51] <docid> amadeus: moog ftw
[19:51] <kid> docid thanks :)
[19:51] <amadeus> docid: do they?
[19:51] <Mion> guvil: there are a few gui frontends for aria2
[19:51] <ChrizC> I'm on 8.10, but it's not recognizing my RW CD drive, or not recognizing there's a blank disc in there
[19:51] <docid> amadeus, i know on some of their work they employ some classic moog gear....
[19:52] <docid> amadeus, nothing in the world ounds quite like it
[19:52] <Chakravanti> now after copying about 37k of data it returns:  gddrescue: Error opening logfile /media/FreeAgent Drive/rescue.log for writing: No such file or directory
[19:52] <docid> amadeus, i found jack/jackrack when i was looking for something that could recreate some of the functionality of the KX drivers in windows
[19:52] <docid> amadeus, its not quite up to that standard, but very interesting
[19:52] <ChrizC> I'm on 8.10, but it's not recognizing my RW CD drive, or not recognizing there's a blank disc in there, why is this?
[19:53] <amadeus> docid: I have much trouble with asio=free thingy
[19:53] <Wifi> Hi, i really need some help here, i have installe the driver but still when i click on "wifi-radar" then nothing happends, it ask for my password, and after that nothing happends :( Please help if you got some time :)
[19:53] <Mion> ChrizC: sata optical drive?
[19:53] <ChrizC> Mion: yea
[19:53] <amadeus> docid: the windows asiofree thiny isn't working for me, jack is faster for me.
[19:53] <kid> 能看懂的兄弟回个信，全是英文，快把人憋死了
[19:53] <igorzolnikov> Hi! I've tried to update my ubuntu desktop but Update Manager said that packages can't be authenticated. What does that mean? Should I install this software or not?
[19:54] <Mion> ChrizC: set the sata controller to lagazy/ide mode instead of ahci (in the bios)
[19:54] <ChrizC> Mion: I'll try that - brb a sec
[19:54] <BadHorsie> hum, any ideas how to get firefox to use OSS? I tried in the general settings
[19:54] <docid> amadeus, what ya meen by aiso=free....ohhh, aiso worked well for me in windows with KX, but i get angry when i have to use windows, its frustrateing haveing an OS tell you what you can and cant do
[19:54] <guvil> Mion:I didnot understand it
[19:54] <Mion> BadHorsie: for flash?
[19:54] <master> can not get on line on my other machine it tells me that i have connection
[19:54] <amadeus> docid: I love linux there!
[19:55] <amadeus> docid: I enjoy windows
[19:55] <docid> amadeus, :)
[19:55] <docid> amadeus, ahhh, if i have to use a windows machine for much more than basic work i install andLinux
[19:55] <mezy> Mion: that command didn't work for me, but i have the mtab file open in a text editor. i found a line that has "sd2" in it. should i delete that line?
[19:55] <Chakravanti> nvm i got it =)
[19:56] <ward--> i installed a program but i setup the wrong stuff... i tried reinstalling but i do not get those questions anymore, what do i do?
[19:56] <BadHorsie> Mion: for anything. /etc/firefox/firefoxrc is said to exist and contain a line such as FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[19:56] <Chakravanti> still...i wonder if i can change the usb hard drive name?  It's a serious pia if not a real problem...
[19:57] <BadHorsie> but sadly there's no such file on the file system
[19:57] <BadHorsie> there's a /etc/firefox3/
[19:57] <BadHorsie>  but no firefoxrc
[19:57] <BadHorsie> not even a ~/.mozilla/firefoxrc
[19:57] <amadeus> docid: The very reason I started using linux for music recording and producing is because of Jack, and man Jack is amazing
[19:57] <Mion> BadHorsie: don't use aoss
[19:58] <master> how do i add programa
[19:58] <Mion> firefox should just work(tm)
[19:58] <TEN> "System/Preferences/Removable Drives and Media" used to have a Multimedia tab - where has it gone in Hardy?
[19:58] <Mion> but for flash you need libflashsupport-oss or the latest oss
[19:58] <BadHorsie> Mion: alsa is screwed up for some reason... can't find much information
[19:58] <guvil> how can i restart opera from the comandline?
[19:59] <odder> guvil: killall opera
[19:59] <mrwes> Ten: try Nautilus | Preferences | Media
[19:59] <odder> guvil: then run it again
[19:59] <mezy> i hate ubuntu now
[19:59] <Lasivian> is there a command to make a jpeg preview from a .flv?
[20:00] <grandemahatma> hallo there,
[20:00] <master> how do i add programs to system without internet access
[20:00] <Wifi> Hi, i really need some help here, i have installe the driver but still when i click on "wifi-radar" then nothing happends, it ask for my password, and after that nothing happends :( Please help if you got some time :)
[20:00] <amadeus> what should i put in my sources.list for the wine deps ? E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[20:00] <BadHorsie> master: write the software yourself
[20:00] <amadeus> I am using Hardy
[20:00] <PhotoJim> master: you need to have an Ubuntu install CD/DVD in your drive (or the files on a flash drive).
[20:00] <Lasivian> master: download the packages to something and load them on the other system
[20:00] <grandemahatma> I have a question ask.. could somebody tell me the meaning of the command !list | username?
[20:00] <shabbs> I have cups on an ubuntu distribution, with the latest update our landscape printing broke. It now rotates 180 degrees instead of 90 like it was doing previously. The new version is 1.3.9, unfortunately I'm not sure what the old version was. I'm wondering if it's related to this: http://www.cups.org/str.php?L2881 and if there is a fix?
[20:00] <theo12> hi when i plug in my usb external it wont mount. it shows up as a usb drive or a scsci drive but its actually an 1tb ntfs sata external connected via usb. it use to mount fine but now i cant get it to
[20:00] <Lasivian> master: i'm not precisely sure how to snag them tho
[20:00] <TEN> mrwes: OIC, this is also where the second entry starting F-Spot (even when its "off") is hiding :)
[20:01] <TEN> Counterintuitive though
[20:01] <sbasuita> master, you can download .deb files from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[20:01] <grandemahatma> could somebody tell me the meaning of the command !list | username?
[20:02] <Guest21843> can anybody help me with linunx sound and skype ?
[20:02] <Mion> Guest21843: easy, don't use skype, use plain old sip instead
[20:02] <ChrizC> Mion: I couldn't find it in my BIOS.
[20:02] <TEN> mrwes: Thanks, wouldn't have looked there; was expecting something like http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-turn-off-auto-play-of-cdsdvds-and-ipods-in-ubuntu.html
[20:03] <janedoe_> in sshd_conf I changed the Port from 22 to 8085 and did restart.  Now I can't ssh to the box using 22 or 8085.  Is there something else I need to change
[20:03] <mrwes> Ten: no problem --
[20:04] <Guest21843> Mion: hmm sip ?? what is that ?? i think i might need to be registered , right ?
[20:04] <mrwes> janedoe_, local network?
[20:04] <janedoe_> all local ... yes, on LAN
[20:04] <master> ok  but main problme is that i do not now witch ones to download to get the system back on the internet
[20:05] <ChrizC> How do I nuke a harddrive from inside Ubuntu?
[20:05] <teddy_> Ubuntu mounting a windows share, always popups a dialog asking for a password to the Workgroup/Domain. No matter what you do, I am always stuck..I then have to mount the volume using ssh...
[20:06] <amadeus> mke2fs?
[20:06] <akorn> Need help...last night i installed the beta for 9.04, on my 16 gig USB drive...i partitioned the drive and everything, and yes it loads perfectly and runs wonderfully off the USB drive...however, when i reboot my computer, i get an error 21 from grub, which doesn't load up, BUT if i keep the USB drive plugged in, grub loads up (off the USB drive) and it also lists off all my other OS's and everything. What I'm wondering is HOW do i fix t
[20:06] <akorn> his? (and what's the pastebin url for anybody who wants to see what my grub menu.lst looks like?)
[20:06] <guido> uhj
[20:06] <guido> hey
[20:06] <Guest21843> i need some dedicated help.. pls
[20:06] <Jeruvy> akorn: ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:06] <Zedde> short question how do I set the time zones in a ubuntu server ?
[20:07] <sako> i love ubuntu
[20:07] <amadeus> ChrizC: do you want to format a drive from the command line?
[20:07] <sako> i gave up sex for ubuntu
[20:07] <ChrizC> amadeus: I just want to wipe a harddrive so there's nothing on it, but is writeable by Ubuntu
[20:07] <Jeruvy> Zedde: right click on the clock
[20:07] <Guest18499> hey
[20:07] <Guest18499> whats goin on
[20:07] <Zedde> Jeruvy: I said server != X
[20:07] <sako> hi Guest18499
[20:07] <TEN> BTW should writing DVDs be any problem with UDMA/33 according to http://codepad.org/n2KMmfAb on Hardy? CD-Rs are recorded just fine, and the bandwidth should at worst reach around a quarter of even the 40-pin link. Or something wrong in wodim?
[20:07] <MenZa> ChrizC: If you can, use gparted and format it as ext3
[20:07] <cemc> usser: i went to that site, but as far as i can tell I don't need those drivers because I have 2.6.27 kernel. I could install compat-wireless by installing that backport module package with apt-get
[20:08] <akorn> connect #ubuntu+1
[20:08] <akorn> ?
[20:08] <Mion> ChrizC: how secure do you want it to be?
[20:08] <mrwes> janedoe_, you need to define port 8085 in /etc/services -- maybe
[20:08] <akorn> Jeruvy: i don't see it in the channel list?
[20:08] <amadeus> ChrizC: what drive the one you have now? Or the another one, is it a certain partition?
[20:09] <Steffy> Hey, trying to use "webcam" with a config file to upload an image to a server but I get the following error: "v4l2: oops: select timeout". Any ideas? All help is appreciated.
[20:09] <Zedde> Jeruvy: I refrace the question how do I set the time from the comand prompt
[20:09] <teddy_> i am guessing akorn, put i would load up the system, and then reinstall grub, this time reinstall grub to to your hard drive (grub reinstall is only 3 commands)
[20:09] <theo12> can someone help me mount a external hdd thats showing up as a usb disk sometimes and an scsi drive others but never mounts
[20:09] <amadeus> ChrizC: type sudo cfdisk but don't do anything
[20:09] <BadHorsie> Steffy: date -S
[20:09] <Guest18499> whats up
[20:09] <usser> cemc, compat-wireless is even more recent than backports
[20:09] <BadHorsie> -s rather
[20:09] <Steffy> BadHorsie: date -S selects timeout?
[20:09] <BadHorsie> or man date
[20:10] <Guest18499> hey
[20:10] <akorn> teddy_: okay that's what i was gonna do was just wondering how i could add the USB drive to it but i'm sure i'll figure that out, i'm in my HD install now anyway
[20:10] <usser> cemc, try with backports sure, but it didnt work for me when i had problems so i didnt suggest it at first
[20:10] <akorn> teddy_: thanks
[20:10] <mrwes> !ask | Guest18499
[20:10] <ChrizC> amadeus: yep
[20:10] <usser> cemc, compat-wireless fixed my issue
[20:10] <teddy_> My Pidgin is way out of date..2.4x...I need the pidgin 2.5+
[20:10] <Svish|Laptop> when in a Terminal, is it possible to open up a file manager thingy from the current path?
[20:10] <BadHorsie> that was for Zedde, Steffy, sorry
[20:10] <Svish|Laptop> like you can in windows with "start ."
[20:10] <Steffy> BadHorsie: thought so :P No worries
[20:10] <cemc> usser: ok, I'll try it then, because the backport package isn't working for me either
[20:10] <usser> cemc, as far as 2.6.27 kernel version goes, yes iwl drivers are included in the kernel but compat-wireless is more recent and it works on 2.6.27
[20:10] <grawity> Svish|Laptop: Try nautilus, if you're on Gnome.
[20:11] <melik> Jaunty Rocks > http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4562/matrixjaunty200903273.png
[20:11] <amadeus> ChrizC: normally to delete a partition you first have to know what partition you want to delete or modify, so do this now, type mount and report your /dev/hd? tome
[20:11] <Svish|Laptop> grawity: perfect =)
[20:11] <melik> 18 second boot on a single core 2.4 ghz + 1 gig ram
[20:11] <Jeruvy> akorn: you may need to register to list channels...it's there
[20:11] <TomV-415> Anyone running on a Dell Latitude D800?  I just installed ubuntu and love it - got compbiz working and that sold me.. one issue is suspend/hibernate - wondering if anyone has that working.
[20:11] <teddy_> that graph is sweet, how did you do that ?
[20:11] <melik> teddy_,  sudo apt-get install bootchart
[20:11] <akorn> Jeruvy: how do i do that? im not that familiar with IRC :)
[20:11] <amadeus> ChrizC: and btw do you just want this drive for storage, or is it a win 32 fat format?
[20:12] <melik> then the logs will be found in /var/log/bootchart
[20:12] <the99zChris> can anyone help me? i restored my xorg file (didn't help original problem) but now i can't set my screen resolution low enough to play games...
[20:12] <Jeruvy> akorn: /join #ubuntu+1
[20:12] <akorn> ahh
[20:12] <akorn> Jeruvy: thansk
[20:12] <akorn> Jeruvy: im a dummy thanks
[20:12] <mrwes> TomV-415, Which version? 8.10 or 8.04 ?
[20:12] <gameboy439> can someone help me? i cant write to my second hard drive, i dont know which options to put in the fstab file to allow to do this automatically on startup
[20:13] <TomV-415> 8.10..
[20:13] <amadeus> ChrizC: if you know the drive you want mounted, ubuntu should mount that drive, so say your partition is on /dev/sda3 you would just type in your /media directory sudo mount /dev/sda3
[20:13] <Mion> gameboy439: more info needed
[20:13] <mrwes> TomV-415, suspend works Ok on my D600, I remember hearing about a bug on the hibernate
[20:13] <ChotaZ> Hey guys, has anyone got some sapre time to spend with a first timer?
[20:13] <gameboy439> Mion: what info do you need?
[20:14] <the99zChris> can anyone help me? i restored my xorg file (didn't help original problem) but now i can't set my screen resolution low enough to play games...(hardy)
[20:14] <TomV-415> mrwes, that's very encouraging.  How to you invoke and resume it?
[20:14] <Mion> gameboy439: what filesystem the partion has, for a starter
[20:14] <RichardC> s oi
[20:14] <gameboy439> Mion: the filesystem is ext3
[20:14] <mrwes> TomV-415, for suspend?
[20:14] <ScottG> So I just made some new pannels, but when I maximise a window, it doesnt fit to the panel, it goes under it. Fix?
[20:15] <Mion> gameboy439: probably just permissions then, `man chown` and `man chmod`
[20:15] <black-bullet> so i did "sudo view /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[20:15] <TomV-415> MrWes, yeah, I was able to "suspend" using the menu in the upper right corner, but when I resume, i just get a black screen... maybe it has to do with grub?
[20:15] <Mion> gameboy439: for ext3, the permission is stored in the filesystem itself, and isn't set a mount
[20:16] <TomV-415> MrWes, how do you return after a suspend?
[20:16] <black-bullet> it configured video device , configured monitor, defult screen
[20:16] <mrwes> TomV-415, hrmm...when I open my laptop lid, I get a small window prompting me for my password
[20:16] <gameboy439> Mion: oh ok, so how do i change the permission in the filesystem itself, so that it permanently lets me read/write/execute stuff?
[20:16] <black-bullet> is this why im getting white screen
[20:16] <Mion> yes
[20:16] <amadeus> ChrizC: if you create a no folder in your terminal, not nautilus but term, like type cd /mnt and now your in /mnt/ then type sudo mkdir drive. then type like mount /dev/sda3 drive, you now have mounted that drive.
[20:16] <Mion> gameboy439: read the 2 man pages, they will tell you everything
[20:16] <judget_> QUERY judget_
[20:17] <TomV-415> MrWes, Perhaps it's due to the fact I dual boot...  good to know it is likely to work with some testing/tweaking.  Thanks for your help!
[20:17] <gameboy439> Mion: oh ok, thanks a lot
[20:17] <grawity> judget_: Eh?
[20:17] <black-bullet> gameboy439 - sudo chmod +xrw FILE
[20:17] <judget_> I was trying to open a private window for a query using the bot
[20:17] <Mion> /query some_bot
[20:17] <ChotaZ> Can anyone help me?
[20:18] <grawity> judget_: Use /query ubottu, or something like that.
[20:18] <epaphus> guys i installed sun-java6-jre, but my browser doesnt want to run java yet.. what else musty i do?
[20:18] <ohzie> hey guys
[20:18] <black-bullet> install plugin
[20:18] <ChotaZ> I just did a fresh install of kubuntu 8.10 on my new computer to try out linux, what should I do next?
[20:18] <ohzie> I was wondering, I'm using the ubuntu liveCD, and I would like to mount this usb Fat32 volume as read only
[20:18] <Whyvas> epaphus, use ultamatix
[20:18] <TEN> Does anyone know what broke xawtv between Feisty and Hardy? Stopped working for DTV apparently with the move from V4L to V4L2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-v4l/+bug/243734
[20:18] <ohzie> Err I mean as read/write
[20:18] <NDPTAL85> On xchat, I've somehow gotten rid of the menu bar. Whats the key combo to get it back?
[20:18] <epaphus> Whyvas, what is that?
[20:18] <Mion> epaphus: restart your browser, and make sure that the path is correct, also, if you are on 64bit, you need the latest jre_beta
[20:19] <epaphus> Mion, iam on i386, and i did restart firefox.. how do i check the path?
[20:19] <RichardC> so i have two questions.  For the record, I'm running a fresh, clean install of Ubuntu 8.10 and I updated it this morning.  Out of the box, I had no sound.  I've found several "fixes" for this problem, but there are many of them and I'm not sure which is recommended.  can anyone clear this up for me?
[20:19] <Whyvas> epaphus, google can answer that
[20:19] <black-bullet> i have problem with white screen when i try to install or try ubuntu 8.10
[20:22] <the99zChris> can anyone help me? i restored my xorg file (didn't help original problem) but now i can't set my screen resolution low enough to play games...(hardy
[20:22] <epaphus> Mion, ...?
[20:22] <Mion> epaphus: echo $MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH
[20:22] <Mion> epaphus: and about:plugins
[20:22] <mgun> hello!
[20:22] <epaphus> Mion, java isnt in the plugins..
[20:22] <epaphus> Mion, how can i include it?
[20:22] <mrwes> TomV-415, try taking a look at /var/log/pm-suspend.log
[20:22] <unblessedTurnip> join #ubuntu-server
[20:22] <black-bullet> epaphus its in add/remove i think
[20:22] <Mion> epaphus: check the path
[20:23] <TomV-415> mrwes - great tip thanks!  I'll take a look there.
[20:23] <epaphus> Mion, echo $MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH doesnt output anything
[20:23] <epaphus> Mion, where can i check the path?
[20:23] <Mion> epaphus: that's not good
[20:24] <ChotaZ> i just installed kubuntu 8.10 on a brand new comp(no dual boot) how can i have full media support(music and video)?
[20:24] <mrwes> TomV-415, unfortunately there are alot of issues with suspend and hibernate :(
[20:24] <gameboy439> Mion: i changed the owner using chown and it worked like a charm, thanks for the help!!
[20:24] <Mion> find out where jre on ubuntu keeps the plugin, and add that to the path
[20:24] <usser> ChotaZ, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:24] <Whyvas> epaphus, use ultamatix...
[20:24] <Supertanker> Where is the /etc/inittab file for Ubuntu 8.10? It doesn't seem to...well...bethere
[20:24] <ChotaZ> thanks usser, any other tips for a first time like me to have this working fine?
[20:24] <Supertanker> be there*
[20:24] <black-bullet> im trying to install linux but i get only white screen
[20:24] <epaphus> Whyvas, how do I install ultamatix¡
[20:24] <epaphus> ?
[20:25] <ZykoticK9> Question: How would I backup the output of "sudo apt-get update" and move it to a machine without a network card?  Background: Computer without a Network card, want to install xubuntu then do updates and install software without network.  I can backup /var/cache/apt/archives and move the required deb files, but don't know how to move the database that apt uses.
[20:25] <melik> http://digg.com/linux_unix/18_Second_Boot_Time_Ubuntu_Jaunty_9_04_Beta
[20:25] <pimpys> hi there
[20:25] <usser> ChotaZ, that should get you everything in terms of multimedia, and yea switch to ubuntu, kde 4 is just not usable
[20:25] <ChotaZ> how do i switch to ubuntu?
[20:25] <usser> ChotaZ, yet
[20:25] <usser> ChotaZ, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:25] <pimpys> have a X server issue - desktop boot but i don't see the menus - can't do either a alt f2 to have a console - help is needed - thanks
[20:26] <ChotaZ> ok
[20:26] <ChotaZ> i'll be back after it's finished
[20:26] <ChotaZ> it will completly replace kubuntu 8.10 right?
[20:26] <Whyvas> epaphus, try google, seriously, if you want to try linux, don't expect to be spoon fed every single answer, it is incredibly easy to do...
[20:26] <mrwes> google is your friend
[20:26] <mgun> Does someone know how can I make the windows' borders go round?
[20:26] <usser> ChotaZ, no, it will add gnome to kde, you'll have to hunt down the packages manually to completely remove kde hang on
[20:27] <the99zChris> can anyone help me? i restored my xorg file now i can't set my screen resolution low enough to play games...(hardy
[20:27] <TomV-415> mrwes  pm-suspend.log looks very "happy" all successes from when i tried it yesterday.  But that's not the actual experience.  Well, thanks for the tips, I'll see what I can figure out when I carve out some time to investigate it more.  Sounds promising.
[20:27] <Supertanker> Uh...
[20:27] <Supertanker> What does Ubuntu use now that it's gotten rid of the /etc/inittab file?
[20:27] <usser> ChotaZ, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[20:28] <grawity> Supertanker: Upstart maybe?
[20:28] <black-bullet> many questions get left behind
[20:28] <pimpys> have a X server issue - desktop boot but i don't see the menus - can't do either a alt f2 to have a console - help is needed - thanks
[20:28] <Supertanker> grawity, Where can I learn more about Upstart?
[20:29] <Supertanker> I saw a way to disable the control+alt+delete in /etc/inittab and I want to do that for this computer with Ubuntu, grawity
[20:29] <pimpys> this is after the updates from yesterday i guess - got low graphic mode alert - put back to default and i only see the desktop no menus etc
[20:29] <cemc> usser: you were right. it's working now. thanks a LOT
[20:29] <Whyvas> Supertanker, rc.blah
[20:29] <usser> cemc, no problem, glad it helped.
[20:30] <mrwes> TomV-415, you using an nvidia card?
[20:30] <Supertanker> Whyvas, woah, found it, nevermind, but I disabled it wrong :S
[20:30] <the99zChris> can anyone help me? i restored my xorg file (didn't help original problem) but now i can't set my screen resolution low enough to play games...(hardy
[20:31] <Supertanker> I just rebooted my server
[20:31] <dreamy> do i get support in some place like #enlgthenment ?
[20:31] <TomV-415> mrwes, yes. Nvidia card working great.. .(multiple monitors, 3d desktop..)
[20:32] <dreamy> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
[20:32] <dreamy> sorry
[20:32] <TomV-415> mrwes, that's part of what gave me the ubuntu bug - its so visually satisfying, and responsive compared to msft xp.
[20:32] <mrwes> TomV-415, so you're running compiz -- desktop effects?
[20:32] <TomV-415> mrwes, right.
[20:32] <lvlefisto> i am behind a firewall and use a proxy to get to the web. Everything is find if i set the proxy settings, but i can find where to stablish the proxy settings in the Weather Report Gnome Applet
[20:32] <sergey> hi all
[20:32] <TomV-415> mrwes, is that the problem?
[20:32] <mib_spt3uah5> hello. I'm using ubuntu 8.10. How can I change my DNS settings for wired network?
[20:32] <mrwes> TomV-415, try turning that off and see if suspend/resume will work
[20:32] <mistergibson> does a user's crontab only get processed when they are logged in?
[20:33] <mrwes> TomV-415, might -- just guessing here
[20:33] <docid> TomV-415, what NVidia card? my 8800gtx works great, but the 9600m GT on my lappy REALLY has issues
[20:33] <grawity> mistergibson: I would guess crontabs always get processed...
[20:33] <sergey> ubuntu forever
[20:33] <mistergibson> grawity: k, just checking
[20:33] <grawity> mistergibson: ...otherwise there wouldn't be any point in using them.
[20:33] <adaptr> mistergibson: no, that would be fairly pointless
[20:33] <TomV-415> docid, not sure how to find out the version of my nvida card.. let me look..
[20:33] <adaptr> TomV-415: lshw
[20:33] <grawity> mistergibson: But of course, the computer must be on :)
[20:33] <mistergibson> grawity: that's what I thought, but I didn't see any action .... must be something else then
[20:34] <adaptr> grawity: noes! surely this can be done virtually, in virtual reality ?
[20:34] <mrwes> TomV-415, from a terminal type lspci | grep VGA
[20:34]  * adaptr crons dayjob and switches off brain
[20:34] <mrwes> grawity, good one :)
[20:34] <mib_spt3uah5> I'm using ubuntu 8.10. How can I change my DNS settings for wired network? Does anybody know?
[20:34] <mistergibson> anyone hear about any progress on the nVidia 96.x drivers? are they now working w/ ibex?
[20:35] <the99zChris> can anyone help me? i restored my xorg file (didn't help original problem) but now i can't set my screen resolution low enough to play games...(hardy
[20:36] <TomV-415> docid, looks like it's " nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 Go AGP 8x] (rev a1)"  works like a charm, perhaps except for suspend and hibernate.
[20:36] <mrwes> TomV-415, try turning that off and see if suspend/resume will work
[20:36] <RichardC> anyone know anything about my sound problem?
[20:37] <guntbert> mib_spt3uah5: do you have the network manager applet?
[20:37] <docid> ohhh, legacy
[20:37] <burbuja> hi
[20:37] <burbuja> sombody speak spanish here?
[20:37] <mrwes> !es
[20:37] <burbuja> thanks
[20:38] <ChotaZ> hey usser
[20:38] <usser> ChotaZ, hey
[20:38] <ChotaZ> i'm getting E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correctthe problem.
[20:38] <usser> ChotaZ, run it
[20:38] <usser> ChotaZ, sudo dpkg --configure 0a
[20:39] <ChotaZ> another error occured, had to run sudo apt-get -f install
[20:40] <ChotaZ> do I wish to step kdm deamon?
[20:40] <ChotaZ> i mean, should I?
[20:41] <usser> ChotaZ, replace it you mean with gdm?
[20:41] <the99zChris> can anyone help me? i restored my xorg file (didn't help original problem) but now i can't set my screen resolution low enough to play games...(hardy
[20:41] <shabbs> I have cups on an ubuntu distribution, with the latest update our landscape printing broke. It now rotates 180 degrees instead of 90 like it was doing previously. The new version is 1.3.9, unfortunately I'm not sure what the old version was. I'm wondering if there is a specific bug or a fix for this?
[20:41] <Guest21843> who can help me with SoundServers ????
[20:42] <ChotaZ> usser, it says that kdm is tipically stopped when removing  or updatin pkgs, if I stop it now, all sessions will be terminated, otherwise the 'new version' will take effect on next reboot. Yes No.
[20:42] <guntbert> mib_spt3uah5: did you solve your DNS problem?
[20:43] <usser> ChotaZ, select no, it just means you'll have to reboot, if you stop you'll lose your gui
[20:43] <Supertanker> "console-kit-daemon[4285]: CRITICAL: cannon initalize libpolkit" < every time I type 'exit' on a tty in my server. Problem much? It comes up with a black screen and won't return to the login prompt
[20:43] <ChotaZ> it's removing a lot of stuff xD
[20:43] <usser> ChotaZ, yep it should
[20:44] <marcelo> does anybody know how to install the webcam in ubuntu 8.10?
[20:44] <ScottG489> Ok I need to know what you guys think of these monstrosities: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/NmFwU83O_1RDA5OlcQjAWA?feat=directlink         http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/yhhjAxhDZo8qpsbtHJeXsg?feat=directlink
[20:45] <guntbert> !webcam | marcelo
[20:45] <guntbert> ScottG489: not here please
[20:45] <todd> I need help I am wating to do "mv *_finished.jpg *_old.jpg"... *_old.jpg are symlinks to the old files all over, and *_finished.jpg are the files I wan to replace them with....????
[20:45] <todd> mv does not work like I'd expect
[20:45] <marcelo> Thanks guntbert!
[20:46] <marcelo> And ubottu too!
[20:46] <guntbert> marcelo: I hope it helps :-)
[20:46] <usser> todd, just change the symlinks then
[20:46] <ArcSighter> hi what I need to enable in my ubuntu to receive windows' net sends????
[20:46] <guntbert> marcelo: and ubottu is a bot :-)
[20:46] <usser> todd, or you want to remove old(actual files) as well?
[20:46] <fool_> hey guys i happen to delete /etc/mysql
[20:47] <ArcSighter> how can I receive net sends from windows hosts?
[20:47] <fool_> how can i get it back ?
[20:47] <todd> usser: OK whats the command to replace the *.old.jpg with the *.finished.jpg files/
[20:47] <fool_> purging mysql-server and install doesn't work
[20:47] <cj> fool_: dpkg -S /etc/mysql
[20:47] <pirate> I have a sansa e250. I'm trying to get it to connect to ubuntu. If I have it in MSC mode nothing appears to be happening. Nothing pops up on the computer and on my mp3 player it just says Disconnected
[20:47] <cj> apt-file search /etc/mysql
[20:48] <pirate> if I put it in MTP mode it connects just fine but it doesn't do anything with the Micro SD card
[20:48] <pirate> could someone help me?
[20:48] <todd> usser: I want to have the files the .old files point to have the content of the .finished files
[20:48] <WDC> Hello. This may be out of place, but I am receiving a "441 Posting Failed (Rejected by POST filter)
[20:48] <WDC> when posting to Newsgroups
[20:48] <guntbert> WDC: what client are you using?
[20:48] <Imo> hello, i want list all groups and user ?
[20:48] <WDC> guntbert: Opera
[20:49] <todd> wdc: you 441 means you are trying to upload via http does your server support that?
[20:49] <ArcSighter> so anynone knows how's possible to receive net sends from windows hosts?
[20:49] <Imo> and how can i find out what group have my http server ??
[20:49] <guntbert> !repeat | ArcSighter
[20:49] <WDC> todd: not 100% sure, it's nntp.bellsouth.net. I'm not uploading any attachments, either
[20:50] <mrwes> ArcSighter, System | Admin | Groups and Users ?
[20:50] <mrwes> er....Imo
[20:50] <todd> wdc: ODD that server must be misconfigued, you should contact there web admin
[20:50] <usser> todd, find . -name *.finished.jpg -exec ln -s {} {}.old.jpg \;
[20:50] <Imo> mrwes: ? ??
[20:50] <usser> todd, that would create symlinks to finished.jpg files in the current directory
[20:50] <WDC> todd: Odd that AT&T's would be unconfigured, but I'll do it. THank you
[20:50] <ArcSighter> mrwes: In windows you can do net send \\someip <message>
[20:50] <ArcSighter> I'm not receiving this
[20:51] <usser> todd, actually hold that for a sec
[20:51] <todd> usser: could you please answer my question, that is not at all what I asked about
[20:51] <Imo> what is the command to list all groups ??
[20:51] <Mion> less /etc/group
[20:51] <usser> todd, could you hang on a sec while i try to recall how find works
[20:52] <master> how do i get the file or program that s in administration called network  it is missing from the list
[20:52] <Imo> mion: thanks
[20:52] <todd> usser: I have *.old these files are symlinks, I do <EM>NOT</EM> want to remove the links. *.finished are not but they have the data I want to have in *.old
[20:53] <usser> todd, if you want .old to point to .finished you ARE effectively removing the links
[20:53] <Zedde> A good music player in ubuntu ?
[20:54] <Mion> moc
[20:54] <hecklingfext> any idea what would cause all my video players except MPlayer to have blue/pink tinted video?
[20:54] <final_frontier> amarok
[20:54] <usser> todd, because they no longer point to what they pointed before
[20:54] <final_frontier> Zedde: Amarok
[20:54] <Zedde> testing ....
[20:54] <todd> usser: hence why I did not ask "how do I remove *.finished, and copy *.old to *.finished... lol
[20:55] <todd> usser: do you understand what I am trying to do???
[20:55] <kghunt> i just installed network manager but it says wireless is disaled?
[20:55] <usser> todd, i think i do, you want to point your .old symlinks to .finished?
[20:55] <final_frontier> kghunt: Have you installed your wifi drivers?
[20:56] <todd> usser: no!
[20:56] <anw_semiaway> is there (on the world) any reg-exp web-search-engine ??
[20:56] <kghunt> i had wicd installed before and that was working fine
[20:56] <Stormx2> Hi. How can I dump a list of packages installed since I first installed ubuntu?
[20:56] <todd> usser: I am trying to edit the .old and put the data thats in the .finished in them
[20:56] <usser> todd, remove symlinks and replace them with .finished?
[20:56] <todd> usser: no not that either...
[20:56] <final_frontier> kghunt: mmm....
[20:57] <mib_spt3uah5> HOW to change DNS settings on ubuntu 8.10?
[20:57] <usser> todd, ok, so you want to modify the files that .old point to?
[20:57] <final_frontier> kghunt: Atheros?
[20:57] <Aizawa> I was going to install skype (ubuntu 8.10 64-bit). It was in the default 8.10 installation, but I removed it first. Now I can't install it with apt/add-remove programs, and I can't download it from skype.com because it doesn't work with 64-bit machines.
[20:57] <kghunt> yes
[20:57] <Aizawa> What should I do?
[20:57] <usser> todd, replace the actual files, with .finished?
[20:57] <todd> usser: I want to have the files the .old files point to have the CONTENT of the .finished files
[20:57] <final_frontier> kghunt: f*ck yeah xD
[20:57] <kyncani> kghunt: i think network manager won't handle any interface defined in /etc/network/interfaces, other than auto
[20:57] <usser> todd, i see
[20:57] <final_frontier> kghunt: maybe AR5007EG?
[20:57] <todd> usser: yep
[20:58] <kghunt> not sure acer aspire one
[20:58] <todd> usser: I think you got it
[20:58] <sleeping143> anyone know how to make the screen lock when I close my laptop? right now it blanks, but doesn't lock, though it used to lock in older versions of Ubuntu.
[20:58] <Imo> i have installed sftp and a User FTP, i want that the FTP user can only wirte and read the /var/www folder.  ??
[20:58] <final_frontier> kghunt: Your issue could be produced by your drivers
[20:58] <ChotaZ> usser, all done.
[20:58] <kyncani> Aizawa: skype is not in the default install. Skype is in the medibuntu repository I think.
[20:58] <final_frontier> kghunt: are you using madwifi drivers?
[20:58] <ChotaZ> I think.
[20:58] <s3r3n1t7> sleeping143, there's a setting somewhere to set that, check preferences and i think it was either screensaver or power settings.
[20:58] <todd> usser: I think cp will work, for the replacement, but... mv *_old.jpg *.jpg does not work
[20:59] <sleeping143> I've even tried the same screensaver and power management settings as I had in Gentoo, which did lock.
[20:59] <kghunt> no
[20:59] <final_frontier> kghunt: privative drivers?
[20:59] <Zedde> no codec's :(
[20:59] <final_frontier> kghunt: ndiswrapper?
[20:59] <sleeping143> I have the screensaver set to lock, but blanking the screen when I close it doesn't seem to behave the same way.
[20:59] <kghunt> this is contents of /etc/network/interfaces  auto lo
[20:59] <kghunt> iface lo inet loopback
[20:59] <dreamy> is there a channel for the WM enligthenment ? for support ?
[20:59] <usser> todd, yes you're right, cp doesnt destroy the symlink, it modifies the actual file
[20:59] <Zedde> final_frontier: didn't have the codec I needed
[20:59] <kghunt> not ndiswrapper its a custom spin so they are in the kernel
[21:00] <mattofak> hi, i have a need to install OpenSSL and get it working with LDAPS, i think i mostly have it figured out with the exception of installing a custom root CA, any ideas?
[21:00] <final_frontier> kghunt: is realy strange xD
[21:00] <kghunt> i think they may even be in the main kernel by now
[21:00] <usser> todd, well use cp, then rm .finished files
[21:00] <sleeping143> s3r3n1t7: If you mean the "lock screen when screensaver active", yeah, that's enabled.
[21:00] <fool_> dreamy: /join #freenode
[21:00] <todd> usser: thats what I thought, now I have the *.old, and the *.finished
[21:00] <final_frontier> kghunt: are you using intrepid ibex?
[21:00] <kghunt> jaunty
[21:00] <Imo> i have installed sftp and a User FTP, i want that the FTP user can only wirte and read the /var/www folder.  ??
[21:00] <usser> todd, sigh, my head hurts :)
[21:00] <crashflow> does anyone know if ubuntu 9.04 works well on a lenovo ideapad?
[21:01] <usser> todd, you dont have symlinks anymore?
[21:01] <final_frontier> kghunt: xD
[21:01] <usser> todd, do you want to recreate them?
[21:01] <JorgeJorgensson> How do you turn on the s-video tv out port on an Intel 852 GM video card?
[21:01] <final_frontier> kghunt: is 9.04?
[21:01] <todd> usser: btw, there are 2,503 of these
[21:01] <todd> usser: no the .old are pointing to the correct file with the bad data
[21:02] <usser> todd, so use cp to copy the contents
[21:02] <s3r3n1t7> sleeping143, and there's an option not to blank the screen but to lock it in either screen saver or power management. It's not the lock screen when screensaver is active one.
[21:02] <usser> todd, then rm to remove the files you dont want anymore
[21:02] <todd> usser: whats the syntax?
[21:03] <Mion> todd: `man rm`
[21:03] <iceroot> todd: rm yourfile
[21:03] <iceroot> todd: -r for recursive, -f for force
[21:03] <rogle> helo world
[21:03] <Mion> todd: if you don't know how to use a command, do `man some_command`
[21:03] <Jeruvy> todd: and beware, rm removes files permanently...so use with caution.
[21:03] <todd> lol thanks I know how to cp a file, its 2000+ that I have a probblem with
[21:04] <rogle> is this the place to get help with file system errors?
[21:04] <usser> todd, find . -name *.finished.jpg -exec cp {} {}.old.jpg \;
[21:04] <VioletsPie> How can I get ubuntu to recognize my sd card slot?
[21:04] <usser> todd, assuming all .old.jpg files are actually symlinks that should do what you want
[21:04] <iceroot> rogle: this is the place to get help with ubuntu
[21:04] <usser> todd, backup first
[21:05] <rogle> sweet...wasn't sure if my posts were working...here goes.
[21:05] <todd> usser: how do I back up the symlinks??? lol
[21:05] <usser> todd, are they pointing out of the directory?
[21:05] <usser> todd, just backup the entire directory
[21:05] <todd> usser: I can just copy them right... sorry my head herts too
[21:06] <usser> todd, backup the entire directory that contains this whole thing
[21:06] <rogle> Just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS on a DELL Optiplex (two SATA drives- no RAID enabed) On reboot it tells me "filesystem seems to be readonly". It eventually comes up. I issue a 'sudo shutdown -r now' and upon reboot I get the same thing. Takes about 30 minutes to boot. Where do I start?
[21:07] <todd> usser: well that went well, it did not seem to do anything but it went well
[21:07] <usser> todd, try opening one of the symlinks
[21:07] <usser> todd, you sure it has the old content?
[21:07] <kklimonda> is there any way to prevent auto mounting one partition on removable device when it's plugged in?
[21:07] <todd> usser: I did it has the old image data
[21:08] <todd> usser: one sec
[21:08] <usser> todd, that command assumes one to one correspondence of .finished to .old ie each .finished file has the symlink with exact same name only ending with .old.jpg
[21:08] <usser> todd, flower.finished.jpg flower.old.jpg
[21:08] <todd> usser: yep 100% sure
[21:09] <usser> todd, oh wait, do you have files in the dir named blabla.finished.jpg.old.jpg?
[21:09] <VioletsPie> How can I get my SD card to mount?
[21:09] <Jeruvy> rogle: try running gparted and see what the filesystems are.  If it is read-only you should make it rw.
[21:09] <usser> todd, hehe
[21:10] <sleeping143> s3r3n1t7: nothing that I can see... I checked the configuration editor to see if there's anything there, but it's nicely locked down from being changed.
[21:11] <s3r3n1t7> sleeping143, i see. Allow me a second to see where i saw this config option.
[21:11] <todd> usser: ehh sorry, its *.jpg with *_new.jpg... *.jpg being the symlinks
[21:12] <sleeping143> s3r3n1t7: I'm on 9.04 beta 64, by the way.
[21:12] <sleeping143> That could make a difference in what settings we see
[21:12] <s3r3n1t7> sleeping143, there might be some minor differences, but this should be platform independent.
[21:12] <todd> usser: find . -name *.jpg -exec cp {} {}_new.jpg \;
[21:13] <todd> usser: that dies
[21:13] <G_Zoli> hy
[21:13] <Guest18819> I just installed ubuntu today and never used mIRC, is this where I get ubuntu help?
[21:13] <usser> todd, whoa you said .jpg are symlinks the above commands does the reverse it copies content of symlinks to the _new files
[21:14] <G_Zoli> i would use a guest profil, but I don't can login with guest 'user' .
[21:14] <FreeAsInFreedom> Hello, I downloaded Ubuntu but when I downloaded eclipse through Add/remove it was 3 years old! Are all packages 3 years old in ubuntu or did I just luck out on eclipse?
[21:14] <Mion> for f in *.jpg; do cp ${f} ${f}_new.jpg; done
[21:14] <sadaiyappan> Hi
[21:14] <sadaiyappan> I have a question
[21:14] <sadaiyappan> I just bought and connected an external hard drive, how do i format it?
[21:14] <usser> todd, plus its incorrect anyway, it appends _new.jpg instead of replacing .jpg with _new.jpg
[21:14] <Mion> sadaiyappan: mkfs
[21:14] <luca> hi
[21:15] <sadaiyappan> okay thx
[21:15] <sprinkmeier> sadaiyappan, do you know which filesystem you want to use?
[21:15] <luca> italiani??
[21:15] <sleeping143> s3r3n1t7: I found a setting in gconf-editor, it works now.
[21:15] <sadaiyappan> no
[21:15] <usser> todd, you need sed to do proper string replacement, and find wont do the job, you'll need to write a script
[21:15] <G_Zoli> Mion, use the gparted or qtparted software which has a grafical frontage
[21:15] <s3r3n1t7> sleeping143, you beat me to it. I was typing the location.
[21:15] <sadaiyappan> if i make it ext4 will my windows computer be able to detect it?
[21:15] <todd> usser: ok sorry its replace *.jpg with *_new.jpg
[21:15] <sprinkmeier> sadaiyappan, where will you use the disk? which OS's are going to have to support it?
[21:15] <Mion> G_Zoli: I'm not the one who are doing the formating, and mkfs is imo faster and easier
[21:16] <sleeping143> s3r3n1t7: thanks for the help, though. :D
[21:16] <todd> usser: OMFG!!! I am doomed!
[21:16] <Guest18819> how do you install a creative x fi sound card on ubuntu?
[21:16] <sadaiyappan> i have two computers i want to use it on, my vista machine and my ubuntu machine
[21:16] <luca> ci sono italiani?
[21:16] <FreeAsInFreedom> are all the packages in ubuntu 3 years old?
[21:16] <sprinkmeier> sadaiyappan, windows only detects NTFS and FAT32. There are third-party add-ons to let windows read ext2/3
[21:16] <ChotaZ> usser, check your pms when you have the time to
[21:16] <s3r3n1t7> sleeping143, np
[21:16] <Mion> yes
[21:16] <Jeruvy> !it | luca
[21:16] <sadaiyappan> ok but linux detects everything?
[21:17] <sadaiyappan> in that case i think i will format it to NTFS
[21:17] <sprinkmeier> sadaiyappan, FAT32 is natevely supported by vista and ubuntu, but it has severe limitations (file size etc). ubuntu can support NTFS, but as NTFS specs are secret it's always a best-guess implementation.
[21:17] <usser> todd, i dont know much about sed myself, or scripting for that matter :)
[21:17] <sadaiyappan> oh
[21:17] <todd> usser: why will I need sed?
[21:17] <sadaiyappan> ok then i guess i'll make it ext3
[21:18] <sadaiyappan> what is difference between ext4 and ext3?
[21:18] <chop> ext4 ought to be better, i guess..
[21:18] <alexmart> hello, I have ubuntu intrepid on a lenovo laptop with intel gma video card and Xorg is sometimes using 90% of CPU, the system is slower than with previous versions of ubuntu. Do you have any advice please ?
[21:18] <sprinkmeier> sadaiyappan, lots of people use linux-NTFS with no problems. I'm just paranoid, so I  tned to use it read-only.
[21:18] <Mion> sadaiyappan: accessing it as ext3 on windows is more painfully than as ntfs on linux
[21:18] <sprinkmeier> !who | sadaiyappan
[21:18] <usser> todd, to replace _new.jpg with .jpg,
[21:18] <usser> todd, in the filenames
[21:18] <sprinkmeier> !ext4 | sadaiyappan
[21:18] <todd> usser: so?
[21:18] <Mion> sprinkmeier: ntfs-3g is stable enough for everyday usage
[21:18] <ubuntu_> ikonia, *shrugs* hi lol
[21:18] <sadaiyappan> ok so NTFS or ext4?
[21:19] <usser> todd, so, you'll need it. and i dont think you can combine sed with find
[21:19] <sprinkmeier> sadaiyappan, ext3 is ext2 with journalling (better crash recovery). ext4 is ext3 with extents (better large file handling). that's it in a $0.02 nut-shell
[21:19] <sadaiyappan> ok i guess i'll use ext4
[21:19] <Mion> sadaiyappan: if you want to access it from windows, ntfs, if not, ext3 or ext4
[21:19] <ZeroKewl> how do i block all open ports with the iptables
[21:19] <sadaiyappan> since my ubuntu is my main machine
[21:19] <todd> usser: OK what if I rename the files first???
[21:19] <sprinkmeier> sadaiyappan, as Mion and many others say, NTFS should be fine. I don't know if ext4 has been ported to windows yet.
[21:19] <sadaiyappan> ok
[21:20] <s3r3n1t7> ZeroKewl, you set the default policy to deny. However, please note this will also cut you off from internet access.
[21:20] <sadaiyappan> ok NTFS then
[21:20] <todd> usser: I dont care about the symlinks outside of the actual files are all over the place
[21:20] <sadaiyappan> mkfs NTFS ?
[21:20] <Jeruvy> ZeroKewl: try #iptables ;)
[21:20] <Paxt> Mion: is ntfs3g secure ?
[21:20] <usser> todd, to what? you want to rename your symlinks?
[21:20] <Mion> Paxt: is ntfs secure? no
[21:20] <sprinkmeier> sadaiyappan, better to format it form a windows machine.
[21:20] <Paxt> Mion: why isnt it ?
[21:20] <todd> usser give me a minute this may be in my wheelhouse
[21:21] <syntac> i used prevu to put in some jaunty packages on my ibex system; how can i undo that and revert to the ibex packages?
[21:21] <usser> todd, something like _new.jpg_symlink should work, in this case you just append stuff to the original filename which is trivial
[21:21] <Jeruvy> Paxt: what has a filesystem to do with secure..isn't that a user/machine thing?
[21:21] <Mion> Paxt: depends on your defenition of security
[21:21] <sprinkmeier> Paxt, secure == secret or secure == reliable?
[21:21] <sadaiyappan> oh ok
[21:21] <john8604> I am running ubuntu on a computer i built myself with a creative x fi blaster sound card, how do I install it?
[21:21] <todd> usser: thats exactly what I was thinking!!! lol
[21:21] <ubuntu_> /msg Ikonia hi
[21:21] <sprinkmeier> sadaiyappan, you could partition the drive and use multiple FS's. Some people set up a FAT32 to share and then native partitions.
[21:22] <Mion> john8604: there are no good drivers for the card yet, because creative decided to play assholes, but oss4 is probably your best bet
[21:22] <Paxt> Mion, Jeruvy, sprinkmeier: Secure is always what a program intended to do from the start. In this case i assert it should be utmost secure
[21:22] <Jeruvy> john8604: I usually open the case and plug the card in, but I think you meant something else?
[21:22] <todd> usser: find . -name *_new.jpg -exec ren {} {}.new.jpg_l \;
[21:22] <john8604> thank you mion
[21:22] <Mion> Paxt: does not make sence
[21:22] <todd> usser: hows that look?
[21:22] <Paxt> sprinkmeier: reliable is required
[21:22] <sadaiyappan> ok
[21:22] <Jeruvy> Paxt: and that does not make any sense, perhaps you are not understanding what 'secure' means.
[21:22] <Paxt> Mion: you do ? :)
[21:22] <VioletsPie> im going beta baby
[21:22] <VioletsPie> lol
[21:22] <usser> todd, ehm is that your renaming?
[21:22] <sadaiyappan> is windows XP fat32 or NTFS?
[21:23] <Mion> Paxt: security = resistance to attacks
[21:23] <Paxt> Jeruvy: Give me your credentials then ;)
[21:23] <sadaiyappan> i only have xp
[21:23] <Mion> sadaiyappan: ntfs
[21:23] <bluenzo> should be NTFS
[21:23] <Mion> sadaiyappan: you do NOT want fat32
[21:23] <todd> usser: yea, what is there a better way?
[21:23] <Mion> most likely
[21:23] <sadaiyappan> ok then i'll format from my windows macine
[21:23] <sadaiyappan> thx
[21:23] <Paxt> Mion: youre an architect i guess ?
[21:23] <bluenzo> Most flash drives are FAT32 :P
[21:23] <Mion> sadaiyappan: it probably are ntfs already
[21:23] <eseven73> good luck getting the beta to download with more than 40kb/s speeds the servers are hammered right now
[21:23] <Jeruvy> Paxt: they have nothing to do with you not understanding secure
[21:23] <usser> todd, you said your symlinks end in *.jpg not in _new.jpg
[21:23] <sprinkmeier> Paxt, NTFS has ACL's, as does ext2/3/4, XFS etc...  wwether that's secure or not depends on the OS that's mounting the data. NTFS has transparent encryption which can also enhance security, depending on how yoy do your key management.
[21:23] <deany> how can i download vids from video.aol.com (youtube like stuff). ive tried downloadhelper plugin in firefox no go, also the youtube-dl script from shell no go..
[21:24] <Paxt> Jeruvy: Have you coded or designed any program code yourself ?
[21:24] <Mion> Paxt: no. but that statement is true for physical structural design too
[21:24] <Mion> as well as for software
[21:24] <Jeruvy> Paxt: how will that help you understand a definition of a word?  ;)
[21:24] <todd> usser: ok give me a minute... I'll see if I can make this make more sense, and easier
[21:24] <Mion> secureity and reliability is more or less not related at all
[21:24] <Paxt> sprinkmeier: So, in making or using a bad filesystem you agree that any system is a bad one ?
[21:25] <Mion> there are really secure systems that have horrible reliability, and vica verca
[21:25] <Paxt> Jeruvy: Simply because i like to take part in designing these filesystems
[21:25] <Geek`N`Proud> Yeah, Linux is one of them when you use SELinux and the wrong type of filesystem
[21:25] <eseven73> !ot
[21:25] <Jeruvy> Paxt: ah, so what does that mean.  You realize this is a support channel and not a debating forum :)
[21:25] <Paxt> Jeruvy: Media on the other hand likes to call me "Dead" whatever that means ;)
[21:25] <alexmart> anyone ? any fixes for Xorg using 90% of CPU
[21:25] <alexmart> ?
[21:26] <sprinkmeier> Paxt, they're all different. whether they're good or bad depends mostly on the environment they're used in. FAT is a terrible FS for security, but it's fantastic for digital cameras.
[21:26] <iceroot> alexmart: compi?
[21:26] <iceroot> alexmart: compiz?
[21:26] <Geek`N`Proud> alexmart: what drivers are you using?
[21:26] <Paxt> Jeruvy: hush if you please
[21:26] <alexmart> iceroot i've uninstalled compiz
[21:26] <Geek`N`Proud> alexmart: and do you have desktop effects enabled?
[21:26] <Jeruvy> Paxt: get on topic
[21:26] <usser> todd, ok to rename symlinks to _new.jpg_l use this find . -type l -exec mv {} {}_l \;
[21:26] <Paxt> sprinkmeier: Its just used more widely
[21:26] <alexmart> Geek`N`Proud: no desktop effects enab;ed
[21:27] <Paxt> Jeruvy: Know what you speak about first
[21:27] <usser> todd, -type l matches all symlinks inside of a directory.
[21:27] <Geek`N`Proud> alexmart: okay good, what drivers are you currently using?
[21:27] <usser> todd, but leaves alone the regular files
[21:27] <Paxt> Jeruvy: please
[21:28] <Geek`N`Proud> Paxt: #ubuntu-offtopic is actually well populated and talks about the merits of filesystems a lot
[21:28] <Geek`N`Proud> so it's not such a bad idea in reality
[21:28] <linxeh> merits of filesystems? disadvantages more like ;-)
[21:28] <ChotaZ> back back
[21:28] <alexmart> Geek`N`Proud: I don't know..
[21:28] <Geek`N`Proud> I often moan about Ext4 and how it munched my data in there
[21:28] <ChotaZ> ussers, did I get the 32b or 64b version of ubuntu?
[21:28] <Paxt> Geek`N`Proud: You are making great contributions ? .. maybe you should go there and lighten the place up with your mannors ?
[21:29] <todd> usser: OK COOL! I now have a bunch of symlinks called *.jpg_l and a bunch of regular files called *_new.jpg!!!!
[21:29] <usser> ChotaZ, i don't know which one you downloaded? either way install flashplugin-nonfree should take care of it
[21:29] <kyncani> ChotaZ: dpkg --print-architecture
[21:29] <ChotaZ> thanks
[21:29] <Geek`N`Proud> alexmart: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep driver | grep Loading
[21:29] <ChotaZ> if I installed kubuntu 64b i should get w64codecs right?
[21:29] <Geek`N`Proud> alexmart: run that in a terminal and paste the line it gives you in here =]
[21:29] <Mion> ChotaZ: uname -m
[21:30] <todd> usser: is that easier to work with??
[21:30] <kyncani> ChotaZ: non-free-codecs will pull the right package, w32codecs or w64codecs
[21:30] <usser> todd, ah bummer, so symlinks dont have _new in them eh?
[21:30] <Geek`N`Proud> ChotaZ: yes ideally, but you can also want a copy of w32codecs installed inside of /usr/lib32/codecs for Kaffeine to work properly
[21:31] <usser> todd, so whats the correspondence between them? can you givee me an example?
[21:31] <Geek`N`Proud> s/can also/also
[21:31] <ChotaZ> Geek
[21:31] <ChotaZ> thing is i got back to pure gnome
[21:31] <ChotaZ> and was wondering if the would change the bits of the OS is working on
[21:31] <alexmart> Geek`N`Proud: (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so
[21:31] <cprevoe> does anyone know how I can troubleshoot acpid? Currently acpi events don't work unless I restart acpid after the computer starts up.
[21:31] <Geek`N`Proud> ChotaZ: no it won't
[21:31] <kyncani> ChotaZ: nope, have to reinstall
[21:31] <Geek`N`Proud> alexmart: you are using the intel drivers =]
[21:31] <ChotaZ> ok then, i'll get both w32codecs and w64 codecs
[21:32] <alexmart> Geek`N`Proud: that's what I have, an intel gma
[21:32] <kyncani> (bad idea), besides, you can't
[21:32] <usser> ChotaZ, just run uname -a to find out what version of ubuntu you're running, 32 or 64 bit
[21:32] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[21:32] <Geek`N`Proud> alexmart: does it use a lot of CPU constantly? or only when you drag windows across the screen?
[21:32] <todd> usser: OK example I have 1959Survival_new.jpg and 1959Survival.jpg_l the _l is the link
[21:32] <EvaLuaTe> what's a good ftp/scp client with norton-like interface for ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[21:33] <s3r3n1t7> EvaLuaTe, filezilla
[21:33] <Geek`N`Proud> EvaLuaTe: no idea what norton has for an interface but gftp works well
[21:33] <deany> how can i download vids from video.aol.com (youtube like stuff). ive tried downloadhelper plugin in firefox no go, also the youtube-dl script from shell no go..
[21:33] <ChotaZ> i did, i'm running amd64 v =D
[21:33] <EvaLuaTe> s3r3n1t7, Geek`N`Proud: thanks guys =)
[21:33] <usser> todd, nah you still need sed im afraid. you have to pull that _new out of there
[21:33] <usser> EvaLuaTe, gftp
[21:34] <Geek`N`Proud> alexmart: so is the high CPU usage constant even if the desktop is left 100% still with no mouse pointer moving?
[21:34] <Paxt> Geek`N`Proud: FileZilla is very good atm, its in the lead on the client side
[21:34] <EvaLuaTe> usser: if i open a file from the remote for editing and save it, does it get automatically uploaded in gftp?
[21:34] <todd> usser: why cant we just treat them as "_new.jpg" files and ".jpg_l" files?
[21:35] <Geek`N`Proud> EvaLuaTe: yes it can
[21:35] <Paxt> Geek`N`Proud: But very bad taste in gui toolkits, because gtk+ rules
[21:35] <usser> EvaLuaTe, yea
[21:35] <EvaLuaTe> cool
[21:35] <syntac> how can i force removal of a program but not all of its dependencies?
[21:35] <ChotaZ> usser, what was the name of the music player again?
[21:35] <alexmart> Geek`N`Proud: usually sits at about 15% and when I drag windows accross the screen it can go to 99%
[21:35] <Geek`N`Proud> EvaLuaTe: if you just want to edit files on FTP, GNOME's built in support works better for that
[21:35] <todd> usser: its now *_new.jpg and *.jpg_l
[21:35] <s3r3n1t7> EvaLuaTe, yes both can.
[21:35] <usser> todd, see appending stuff is easy, it would have been easy if your files were named blahblah_new.jpg and your symlinks blahblah_new.jpg_l
[21:35] <todd> usser: right?
[21:35] <EvaLuaTe> Geek`N`Proud: i actually have kubuntu, not ubuntu =)
[21:36] <kyncani> syntac: removing a program won't remove its dependencies, it's the other way arond
[21:36] <todd> usser: ok so 2 more rounds of rename?
[21:36] <Geek`N`Proud> EvaLuaTe: in that case Konqueror works well for that too.. even better than GNOME's support
[21:36] <Paxt> Instead of python,perl,gtk+,tcl,other things maybe we should standardize on c/c++/glib for base codings and gtk+ for guis ? ... I think that would be very bright
[21:36] <s3r3n1t7> kyncani, that depends on the program used. Aptitude auto removes all the dependencies if no other program depends on it. Apt gives you the option to do so.
[21:37] <EvaLuaTe> hmm, let's see
[21:37] <Paxt> That way we would have C/C++ all the way
[21:37] <Geek`N`Proud> Paxt: GTK is not very stable between versions.. Qt is a better piece of kit for standardising on
[21:37] <todd> usser: there isnt a way to change the extension on a bunch of files?
[21:37] <s3r3n1t7> Paxt, program language choices are made per programmer and per job, you can't just make a standard out of a single language because there is no single language best for every job.
[21:37] <EvaLuaTe> also, could you recommend a lightweight text editor with syntax highlighting for web editors and maybe auto-indenting?
[21:37] <Paxt> Geek`N`Proud: Oh, i thought QT was for the less code savvy... do we really want that lameness ?
[21:37] <alexmart> Geek`N`Proud: if firefox isn't running, and everything is still it fluctuates between 3 and 10%
[21:38] <guntbert> !offtopic | Paxt s3r3n1t7, please
[21:38] <usser> todd, hang on
[21:38] <Paxt> s3r3n1t7: but... you dont know my capabilities do you ?
[21:38] <syntac> kyncani: i'm trying to downgrade my version of libasound2 but it won't let me remove it unless i remove a slew of other programs that i don't want to
[21:38] <s3r3n1t7> Paxt, that's irrelevant to this topic. Please, let us continue this discussion in offtopic.
[21:38] <todd> usser: I can smell a solution man! thanks allot you are saveing my hide!
[21:38] <trin> is there a program sort of like that of dreamweaver that when you click on a section of code it shows you in the detailed view where you are at?
[21:39] <Paxt> s3r3n1t7: not really
[21:39] <cprevoe> does anyone know how I can troubleshoot acpid? Currently acpi events don't work unless I restart acpid after the computer starts up.
[21:40] <daniel1> anybody able to gimme a hand with a little problem im having with vlc?
[21:40] <Akiyuki> What happened to the netboot.iso ?
[21:40] <trin> for Ubuntu is there a program sort of like that of dreamweaver that when you click on a section of code it shows you in the detailed view where you are at?
[21:40] <usser> todd, here try running this script http://pastebin.com/f5276f89
[21:40] <kyncani> syntac: yeah, downgrading is generally a very bad idea, that leads from bad to worse situations
[21:40] <usser> todd, on a single file
[21:40] <syntac> kyncani: i didn't alter any of the files that depend on this though
[21:41] <usser> todd, ./copy blahblah_new.jpg
[21:41] <sprinkmeier> todd, have you tried the rename utility?
[21:41] <t1ger> daniel1: What's your issue ?
[21:41] <usser> todd, is the syntax, it strips out _new and add _l to the end of the file then copies it to that new name
[21:41] <Paxt> s3r3n1t7: how are the neichterlands nowdays, still whacky as always ? ;)
[21:41] <Jeruvy> daniel1: just ask if anyone can help they will.
[21:41] <kyncani> syntac: yeah, but chances are that programs that depends on it won't work (bad version numbers, missing symbols, ...)
[21:42] <usser> todd, see if it works for a single file, also as im not very good at scripting it will most likely fail if it encounters some weirdly named files ie with spaces in them etc
[21:42] <EvaLuaTe> Geek`N`Proud: i can't seem to find the possibility to connect to a ftp server in konqueror, could you please give me a hint?
[21:42] <Paxt> hello!
[21:42] <daniel1> hey t1ger. just updated to intrepid ibex and im having trouble watching movies. the movies constantly flicker
[21:42] <todd> damn it!
[21:42] <usser> todd, what?
[21:42] <todd> soo close!
[21:42] <s3r3n1t7> Paxt, please don't write netherlands that way. It is offensive to me. And please stick with the offtopic channel.
[21:42] <todd> cp: target `Marinus.jpg_l' is not a directory
[21:43] <syntac> kyncani: so i'm better off reinstalling my entire system?
[21:43] <Paxt> GF Chatting... hehe...go....
[21:43] <t1ger> daniel1: Do it work with totem ? Have an look at the pref and try "XV" as output for gfx.
[21:43] <Paxt> s3r3n1t7: Where you from in the lando systems ?
[21:43] <sprinkmeier> usser, todd it looks like  "rename 's/\_new$/_l/' *.new" should do what you want
[21:44] <t1ger> daniel1: Also, tell us about what gfx card you have. (ati/intel/nvidia)
[21:44] <kyncani> syntac: I don't know your specific situations, but you're better off a) living with it b) looking for a repo (ppa, other) for your specific problem c) upgrading to jaunty d) reinstalling
[21:44] <sprinkmeier> usser, todd oops... "rename 's/\_new$/_l/' *_new"
[21:44] <daniel1> yeah, same happens with totem and mplayer
[21:44] <syntac> kyncani: how do i go about upgrading to jaunty?
[21:44] <josh-l> whats the easiest way to create a custom usplash?
[21:44] <tempesta74> someone can help me?? my english is very bad and i have a problem with my webcam on intrepid ibex...
[21:45] <Akiyuki> Anyone know where the netboot folders are ?
[21:45] <kyncani> syntac: first, try jaunty's livecd. If it works, then come back.
[21:45] <syntac> kyncani: alright, thanks for your help!
[21:45] <kyncani> np
[21:45] <alexmart> Geek`N`Proud: you still there ?
[21:45] <t1ger> Daniel1: I guess it could be an Vsynch issue ? What driver do you use in Xorg ? FLicker as in blink blink or tearing ?
[21:45] <todd> sprinkmeier: nope Can't rename *_new *_l: No such file or directory
[21:45] <Paxt> s3r3n1t7: Be nice now
[21:45] <Zedde> Where do VW server 2 store the guest OS in ubuntu ?
[21:45] <daniel1> flicker as in blink blink
[21:46] <Paxt> How did I offend you?
[21:46] <daniel1> not sure what driver i use
[21:46] <syntac> kyncani: one last question, if i live with this problem until jaunty officially releases (as opposed to instalilng it now in testing), will the upgrade be smoother?
[21:46] <tempesta74> someone can help me?? my english is very bad and i have a problem with my webcam on intrepid ibex...
[21:46] <usser> todd, hm, it works here when copying files are you trying to copy directory?
[21:46] <kyncani> syntac: yep, because more bugs will be resolved when jaunty is released
[21:46] <t1ger> daniel1: Do you know if it's an Intel/Ati or Nvidia card ?
[21:46] <sprinkmeier> todd, it's a perl utility
[21:47]  * DigitalKiwi thinks someone has some issues if they could be offended by the way someone spells their countries name on an -wait for it- IRC channel
[21:47] <Paxt> s3r3n1t7: Dont wanna chat with my gf ?
[21:47] <s3r3n1t7> Paxt, please stop putting my name in front of sentences. Stick with this channel's topic.
[21:48] <todd> OK I got 160Movie_new.jpg no dirs, and execing.... rename 's/\_new$/_l/' *_new
[21:48] <daniel1> its an ati card. radeon x1400. strange thing is when i play a game, say something like torcs, which would be a bit heavier on the card than a video, it works fine
[21:48] <sprinkmeier> todd, can't find the package that installed it ATM.
[21:48] <Paxt> s3r3n1t7: how are you today. Bad weather here... snowing
[21:48] <DigitalKiwi> s3r3n1t7: how else would he make sure you know he's talking to you?
[21:48] <DigitalKiwi> lrn2irc
[21:49] <rogle> Jeruvy, There is nothing in gparted that says anything is read only. Is there somewhere specific I look in gparted to find that?
[21:49] <todd> sprinkmeier: no it is saying Can't rename *_new *_l: No such file or directory not cant fint ppackage, or command not found :-)
[21:49] <kyncani> todd: rename -n 's/_new\.jpg$/_l.jpg/' *_new.jpg     maybe ?
[21:49] <Mark_Jones> Can anyone say whether or not file permissions are still used on fat32 formatted external drives?
[21:50] <Jeruvy> rogle: no, just wondered what filesystem, did you chmod anything?
[21:50] <kyncani> Mark_Jones: they(re not
[21:50] <guntbert> DigitalKiwi: please follow a dialogue before commenting, your lrn2irc was quite unnecessary
[21:50] <Geek`N`Proud> alexmart: am now
[21:50] <Mark_Jones> cool thank you
[21:50] <ChotaZ> usser: what was the name of the music player again?
[21:50] <Jeruvy> rogle: or mount it as read-only?
[21:50] <usser> ChotaZ, oh sorry, exaile
[21:50] <t1ger> Daniel1: Are you using the ATI official driver of the Open Source (Check with System -> hardware drivers)
[21:50] <Geek`N`Proud> alexmart: you might want to ask on Ubuntu questions there, it should be a bit lower when nothing is happening
[21:50] <ChotaZ> thanks
[21:51] <Mion> [MindVirus]: fat32 don't store posix file permissions, you set them at mount time instead, see `man mount`
[21:51] <Geek`N`Proud> alexmart: it should be near 0% when nothing is happening
[21:51] <daniel1> its the ati official driver
[21:51] <t1ger> Daniel1: It usualy help to use OpenGL output for video. Are you able to change and try that with the prefs in VLC ?
[21:51] <DigitalKiwi> guntbert: I was following the dialogue
[21:51] <DigitalKiwi> were you?
[21:51] <winboard> hey
[21:51] <daniel1> yeah ive already got it set to open gl
[21:51] <guntbert> DigitalKiwi: may I pm you?
[21:51] <usser> todd, ok so you have 160Movie_new.jpg and 160Movie.jpg_l in the same directory right?
[21:51] <winboard> la
[21:51] <winboard> türk varmi la
[21:52] <wazak> всем привет
[21:52] <DigitalKiwi> guntbert: sure why not everyone else does
[21:52] <usser> !ru
[21:52] <winboard> olm türk ariyom la
[21:52] <LjL> !offtopic | Paxt
[21:52] <winboard> ubuntu alemine daldik
[21:52] <Mion> [MindVirus]: sorry, the dude that was at left as I pressed <tab>
[21:52] <Jeruvy> !tr | winboard
[21:52] <winboard> yalniz birakmayin
[21:52] <DigitalKiwi> Mion: silly
[21:52] <todd> usser: yep!!! hee hee yea! thanks stange chat person!
[21:52] <winboard> dostum nasil giriyoruz
[21:52] <Mion> DigitalKiwi: I blame you!
[21:52] <winboard> geyik yapmaya
[21:52] <DigitalKiwi> it's always my fault
[21:53] <DigitalKiwi> :'(
[21:53] <usser> todd, did it work?
[21:53] <winboard> sie la
[21:53] <Mion> DigitalKiwi: yes it is
[21:53] <clearscreen> Can someone help me with this? route.sh exists in /etc/init.d but update-rc.d says it doesnt: http://pastebin.com/d129c76f5
[21:53] <LjL> !offtopic | mion, DigitalKiwi
[21:53] <t1ger> Daniel1: As you state. OpenGL games works fine, then i wonder if XV output only flicker. I would belive Toem/mplayer would use that as default.
[21:53] <Mion> DigitalKiwi: it's your fault that ubuntu sucks!
[21:53] <todd> usser: damn the origional command, I lost it ;-(
[21:54] <winboard> huhu
[21:54] <kyncani> clearscreen: it's a circular symlink
[21:54] <t1ger> Anyone using Compiz with the Radeon drivers (R500) ?
[21:54] <Viruskongen> if opegl apps(winwolwed) or movies flicker, use the open source driver
[21:54] <Viruskongen> i use compiz with RV530(X1650)
[21:54] <obf213> hey my nautlius ssh tunnelign isn't working. is there a secure Fx typ app for ubuntu?
[21:54] <ChotaZ> How can i change the Height on a side panel?
[21:54] <Jeruvy> daniel1: it could be vlc just doesn't like opengl output.  I'd check if there is any bugs on the subject, or try another mode.
[21:54] <winboard> huhu
[21:54] <t1ger> Virus: Did you just add Composite in xorg and it work's ?
[21:54] <winboard> huhu
[21:54] <DigitalKiwi> someone should ban Mion
[21:54] <DigitalKiwi> he's a known troll
[21:54] <LjL> Paxt: yes?
[21:54] <bavardage> hehe
[21:54] <Viruskongen> daniel1, switch to xv opout
[21:55] <bavardage> DigitalKiwi: good idea
[21:55] <LjL> DigitalKiwi: tell us that in #ubuntu-ops
[21:55] <LjL> paxt: stop now.
[21:55] <DigitalKiwi> he harasses newbs all the time on other channels I visit
[21:55] <jatt> join #debian
[21:55] <usser> todd, the find one?
[21:55] <t1ger> Virus: xorg.conf <- Correction
[21:55] <todd> usser: yep
[21:55] <turkUbuntu> selammm
[21:55] <Paxt> todd: Sod off Eggnog :)
[21:55] <deutsche99> http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=52721.0#lastPost?
[21:56] <turkUbuntu> i look to turkish ubuntu users
[21:56] <cemc> I just found out about ndiswrapper (for using windows drivers for wireless cards in linux). is there something for wired cards too? like onboard, or pci ethernet cards?
[21:56] <daniel1>   tried all the different outputs and it flickers on all of them
[21:56] <usser> todd, right so if it worked for a single file then, backup first, find -name *_new.jpg -exec ./copy {} \;
[21:56] <Jeruvy> !tr | turkUbuntu
[21:56] <bluenzo> Anyone know about grub? Dont say !grub it doesnt help much lol. I need specific help with the 'setup' command. Which hard drive is "setup" supossed to be on? Im guessing ubuntu's but im really not sure.
[21:56] <deniz> does anyone know of a lie detector software that detects stress in a person's voice for ubuntu?
[21:56] <LjL> !tr | turkUbuntu
[21:56] <obf213> yo is there any other way to do ssh tunneling besides nautilus...cuz it always times out for me
[21:56] <ChotaZ> How do I set Exaile as default application to open audio files?
[21:56] <Paxt> LjL: My gf wants to chat some, can she ?
[21:57] <usser> ChotaZ, right click on the audio file open with-> exaile, check do this for all files
[21:57] <imme-emosol> My Jaunty does not start anymore , drops me to busybox.
[21:57] <imme-emosol> Can anyone help me with that?
[21:58] <usser> ChotaZ, but exaile is not the kind of an app you use to just double click on files, it works best if you create a collection
[21:58] <_Purple_> python is broken
[21:58] <todd> usser: sorry I lost everything :-( the cp command should be cp x_new.jpg x.jpg_l
[21:58] <obf213> hey my nautlius ssh tunnelign isn't working. is there a secure Fx typ app for ubuntu?
[21:58] <guntbert> !jaunty | imme-emosol
[21:58] <usser> todd, right, use my script, instead of cp
[21:59] <usser> todd, you lost it?
[21:59] <todd> usser: one sec...
[21:59] <yetanotherone> how do I use chmod to make all files in a folder readable and writeable by all users?
[21:59] <todd> usser: whew... I have the file
[22:00] <imme-emosol> thanks guntbert
[22:01] <imme-emosol> yetanotherone: I think by doing:  chmod -a +rw *
[22:01] <yetanotherone> imme-emosol: thanks
[22:01] <todd> usser: i think it is haveing problems with a space :-(
[22:01] <usser> todd, hehe hang on
[22:02] <JohnCorbeau> hello everyone, I'll just be reading, nevermind me
[22:02] <imme-emosol> yetanotherone: you could also have tries chmod --help   or   man chmod    to give you more information about the chmod command.
[22:02] <yetanotherone> ok thakns
[22:02] <sadaiyappan> Hi i'm back, i formatted the drive using gparted to ext3 but now it says i do not have permission to move folders to it
[22:02] <guntbert> !welcome | JohnCorbeau
[22:03] <todd> yetanotherone: the easy answer chmod 777 *, but you should man chmod as well
[22:03] <sadaiyappan> ok i know what cmod is
[22:03] <sadaiyappan> but
[22:03] <sadaiyappan> how do i find the drive in the terminal
[22:03] <horatio> Hello
[22:03] <sadaiyappan> it shows up on my desktop but when i CD to desktop its not there
[22:04] <usser> todd, http://pastebin.com/f65a74b92 try this
[22:04] <horatio> I was not able to install the Ubuntu from a live version cdrom on a laptop
[22:04] <usser> todd, run it on a file with a space
[22:04] <todd> saddi: cd /media
[22:04] <imme-emosol> sadaiyappan: I'ts probably in /mnt OR /media somewhere...
[22:04] <cellofellow> sadaiyappan: if it's mounted, you can type `mount` at the terminal to see where.
[22:04] <sadaiyappan> ok i got it thx
[22:04] <deutsche99> ubuntu is new windows 7?
[22:04] <cellofellow> sadaiyappan: to see what is mounted where, rather. Sometimes you want to know the /dev/ node.
[22:04] <horatio> it starts with (initramfs) ^@
[22:05] <cellofellow> deutsche99: what kind of question is that?
[22:05] <todd> usser!!!! Yea, now how do I do that 2000 + times!!! easy right?
[22:05] <horatio> anyone that can help me out. Firsttimer on a laptop, but on desktop I do not have problems with the live version
[22:05] <usser> todd, sure just repeat the command 2000+ times :)
[22:05]  * cellofellow hands todd the for command.
[22:05] <deutsche99> cellofellow: I feel you
[22:05] <usser> todd, no but seriously, find . -name *_new.jpg -exec ./copy {} \;
[22:05] <usser> todd, that should do it
[22:06] <cellofellow> todd: yeah, find is awesome.
[22:06] <horatio> anyone that can help out ?
[22:06] <todd> usser: my script is ./bla.sh so I assume  find . -name *_new.jpg -exec ./bla.sh {} \;
[22:07] <sadaiyappan> it still doesn't let me move folders onto it
[22:07] <bluenzo> Anyone know about grub? Dont say !grub it doesnt help much lol. I need specific help with the 'setup' command. Which hard drive is "setup" supossed to be on? Im guessing ubuntu's but im really not sure.
[22:07] <sadaiyappan> even after the chmod 777
[22:07] <imme-emosol> sadaiyappan: Have you checked if it actually did anything?
[22:07] <todd> usser: find: paths must precede expression: 005Marinus_new.jpg
[22:07] <sadaiyappan> no
[22:07] <sadaiyappan> ?
[22:08] <imme-emosol> sadaiyappan: It might be that you don't have permission to change the permissions.
[22:08] <sadaiyappan> ok
[22:08] <sadaiyappan> how do i change that
[22:08] <Jeruvy> bluenzo: have you booted?  if so you should be able to get into grub from terminal and then do setup
[22:08] <imme-emosol> sadaiyappan: ls -al      should give you some insight in the current permissions.
[22:08] <graingert> sadaiyappan-> it's a catch 22
[22:08] <bluenzo> Jeruvy, im not sure which HDD to do "setup" on, i have 4 HDDs, one is vista, one is ubuntu, one is data, one is empty
[22:09] <usser> todd, thats weird. try find . -name *_new.jpg -exec bash bla.sh {} \;
[22:09] <sadaiyappan> arrgh, yes i did ls -al
[22:09] <sadaiyappan> now what do i do
[22:09] <imme-emosol> sadaiyappan: look at the output.
[22:09] <ScottG489> Ok, well everything is fine for the most part when I start up with no external monitor. I just have a black overlay so that my screen is 1600x1200 instead of 1920x1200
[22:09] <ScottG489> How do I get that black area to go away?
[22:09] <imme-emosol> sadaiyappan: does it say root ?
[22:09] <sadaiyappan> it says 3 then underneath 4 then underneath that 2
[22:09] <todd> usser: find: paths must precede expression: 005 The Keys of Marinus_new.jpg
[22:09] <todd> Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression]
[22:10] <horatio> hello, anyone knows how to get ubunto live version on a laptop ?
[22:10] <sadaiyappan> yes it says root root
[22:10] <virtuald> bluenzo: grub should be on the one that the bios hands over the bootstrap to
[22:10] <bluenzo> virtuald, sorry but i have no idea what that means :S
[22:10] <imme-emosol> sadaiyappan: Then you are probably in a folder that is owned by root.
[22:10] <virtuald> bluenzo: probably the primary master
[22:10] <imme-emosol> sadaiyappan: It's probably not so wise to just put stuff in there.
[22:10] <sadaiyappan> ok
[22:11] <virtuald> bluenzo: which would be disk 0
[22:11] <sadaiyappan> on the hard drive?
[22:11] <sadaiyappan> so how do i make it so i can move folders on to the drive?
[22:11] <bluenzo> virtuald, i tried (hd0) and ikonia said thats not right
[22:11] <guntbert> horatio: you just boot from the CD
[22:11] <virtuald> bluenzo: you should have a partition number too
[22:12] <imme-emosol> sadaiyappan: ah , you mounted an external hard-drive?
[22:12] <sadaiyappan> never mind i unplugged it and plugged it back in
[22:12] <sadaiyappan> now its working
[22:12] <bluenzo> virtuald, (hd0,0)
[22:12] <usser> todd, hm it works here
[22:13] <imme-emosol> sadaiyappan: Life can be that easy. :P
[22:13] <sadaiyappan> is chmod 777 safe?
[22:13] <Jeruvy> bluenzo: it will be a primary partition, maybe gparted will tell you, oh I see you got it :)
[22:13] <imme-emosol> sadaiyappan: depends , but in general: not really.
[22:13] <todd> usser: I am doing... find . -name *_new.jpg -exec bash bla.sh {} \;
[22:13] <s3r3n1t7> sadaiyappan, define safe.
[22:13] <sadaiyappan> i guess its safe i won't be storing anything important on it
[22:14] <usser> todd, try this find -name "*_new.jpg" -exec bash bla.sh {} \;
[22:14] <bluenzo> Jeruvy, i dunno this is all confusing to me lol
[22:14] <todd> usser: running...
[22:14] <sadaiyappan> what is the lost+found folder?
[22:14] <Jeruvy> bluenzo: hehe I hear that, go slowly :)
[22:15] <usser> todd, cool, i hope you have a backup
[22:15] <bluenzo> Jeruvy, ive been on ubuntu for like 3 days, really tho i dunno what im doing lol
[22:15] <PhotoJim> sadaiyappan: when the system does file system checks, if it finds fragments of files that it thinks might be important, it puts them there so you can look at them.
[22:15] <todd> usser: running... keep your fingers crossed
[22:15] <horatio> anyone experience with ubuntu on a laptop installing ?
[22:15] <bruenig> horatio: works the same as any other install
[22:16] <rtypo> does anyone know how can i remove "Auto eth0" ?
[22:16] <PhotoJim> horatio: sure, most of us have installed it on laptops.  I've got it running on 2, plus a netbook.
[22:16] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, why would you wish to remove it?
[22:16] <jklock> rtype: just comment it out
[22:16] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, because i configured my 'wired connection 1' as i needed to
[22:16] <usser> todd, god my scripting is rusty, it shouldn't take 2 hours for something that simple
[22:16] <horatio> PhotoJim do you know why I got a the line prior to install it ?
[22:17] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, we're talking about network-manager here right?
[22:17] <horatio> seems like a commandrule needs to be entered.
[22:17] <PhotoJim> horatio: why you got what line?
[22:17] <stegel> i am working with a mythbuntu install of xubuntu and a siig soundwave 5.1 soundcard but I have no sound at all, aplay -l detects the card as "ICE1724
[22:17] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, yes. umm, i think it was resetting itself at each restart
[22:17] <PhotoJim> horatio: did you try just hitting enter and letting it go?
[22:17] <Jeruvy> bluenzo: So how did you end up having to manually configure grub?  Thats not something you normally have to do with an ubuntu install.
[22:17] <todd> usser: whew!!! let me check a fiew
[22:17] <zmitya> hi all
[22:17] <bluenzo> Jeruvy, can i PM you?
[22:17] <zmitya> guys, amarok says it can't play flac file
[22:18] <zmitya> I have a fresh ubuntu install
[22:18] <bruenig> !codecs
[22:18] <todd> usser: cool!!!
[22:18] <zmitya> bruenig: thx
[22:18] <usser> todd, did it work?
[22:18] <rtypo> jklock, where should i comment it out from ?
[22:18] <horatio> PhotoJim enter will not work
[22:18] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, i havent seen it reset itself. However, if there is a dhcp server on the network i think it will default to the auto eth0 profile instead of the one you created. This profile should also be in the network configuration tool.
[22:19] <PhotoJim> horatio: I'm not sure then, sorry.
[22:19] <todd> usser: yep, I need to get the links renammed bat without the _l and remove the origionals!
[22:19] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, i don't have dhcp enabled on the network
[22:20] <usser> todd, we didnt need to rename the links in the first place as it turned out heh.
[22:20] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, i will try to configure that Auto eth0 again, and see what happens after restart
[22:20] <usser> todd, just modify the script to strip _l from the filename and run it with find . -type l
[22:20] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, then it should skip the eth0 profile. You may be right that it will reset that profile. Try to create a new profile with your custom settings.
[22:21] <kaptengu> is there any linux game like Micro Machines, where you see the cars from above?
[22:21] <horatio> When I am installing from a live version on this laptop it ends up with (initramfs) ^@
[22:21] <horatio> then a commandorule follows
[22:21] <usser> todd, something like that http://pastebin.com/f1d5c80b7
[22:21] <todd> usser: Naw I want all gheto! I copied from the back up and removed the *_l, *_new.jpg and the *.finished
[22:22] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, i did! i have "Wired connection 1" for example. At startup, it waits 10 seconds or so, and then it connects to my custom profile, i guess it's because that "Auto eth0"
[22:22] <rtypo> and i don't like that delay at all
[22:22] <todd> usser: oops went... THANKS ALLOT MAN!!!!
[22:22] <Crazylink> Hello, Im new to ubuntu can someone please help me set up wine, its been a few years since iv used ubuntu so i remember nothing
[22:22] <marcusdavidus> Crazylink:  of course i can
[22:22] <freedumMan> My Laptop 8.10 has been running at 39% cpu freq, running top shows normal 5% usage, running iotop shows very little on idle, my keyboard makes my hands sweat now that this freq runs constant 39%, not sure what app is causing this but was hoping someone might point me to where i can look im out of options
[22:22] <rtypo> i also think that maybe it's a bug in ubuntu
[22:22] <todd> USSER ROCKS!!!!
[22:23] <usser> todd, no problem
[22:23] <usser> heh
[22:23] <marcusdavidus> Crazylink:  with what exacly u have an problem ?
[22:23] <horatio> the headline starts with BusyBox v1.1.3, Built-in shell (ash)
[22:23] <freedumMan> FYI I've been running 8.10 since it was out and this happened just in the last few weeks
[22:23] <horatio> enter ḧelp"for a list of built-in commands
[22:23] <marcusdavidus> Crazylink:  so what is your wine problem ?
[22:23] <imme-emosol> horatio: Did the LiveCD work properly ?
[22:24] <Crazylink> marcusdavidus: well i just reinstalled ubuntu last night so im pretty much naked, i was told that Wine would help run a few windows programs, just not sure at all how to get started on setting it u0p
[22:24] <Crazylink> up*
[22:24] <horatio> the LiveCD works properly on desktop, do not have problems with it. Wanted to try on laptop starts with this.
[22:25] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, aye. It searches for a dhcp server, doesn't find one and then goes to your static profile.
[22:25] <marcusdavidus> Crazylink:   ok lets go priv
[22:25] <horatio> after this (initramfs) ^@
[22:25] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, can i avoid that ?
[22:25] <Crazylink> understood
[22:25] <horatio> then the _ starts blinking
[22:25] <marcusdavidus> Crazylink:  i help uw ith whole setup of ubuntu if u want
[22:25] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, i'm afraid i haven't found a way to do that yet. Is there any program that dies because of the 10 second wait time?
[22:26] <toni_m> hello ive just installed linux ubuntu at my laptop and i cant see full screen the linux, if i change the screen resultation the laptop freeze... any suggnestion?? thanks..
[22:26] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, i don't think that, but i'm really sure
[22:26] <imme-emosol> horatio: Okay , so the LiveCD does not work on your laptop.
[22:26] <imme-emosol> horatio: Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[22:26] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, *not really sure
[22:27] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, i havent seen a program that bugs that way yet.
[22:27] <horatio> no, the Ubuntu 8.04
[22:27] <Jampiter> Hi
[22:27] <toni_m> can anyone help me??
[22:27] <horatio> it works well on a desktop imme-emosol
[22:27] <Jampiter> I have both kdm and gdm installed. Kdm is active. How do I change this to gdm?
[22:27] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, could you check in network configuration if your custom profile has an option to connect automatically?
[22:27] <JorgeJorgensson> Anyone know how to fix a DVD burning issue?  I cannot burn to my DVD writer anymore.  It happens on all my machines with 8.10 installed.
[22:27] <Crazylink> marcusdavidus: sent you a message
[22:28] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, i have 2 custom profiles, plus that auto eth0, and they all have "connect automatically" checked
[22:28] <horatio> Anyone got this (initramfs) ^@ on his laptop when installing Ubuntu ?
[22:28] <toni_m> hello ive just installed linux ubuntu at my laptop and i cant see full screen the linux, if i change the screen resultation the laptop freeze... any suggnestion?? thanks... i need to install any driver or something?
[22:28] <marcusdavidus> im on priv mate come htere
[22:29] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, maybe i should check just one :D ?
[22:29] <toni_m> hello ive just installed linux ubuntu at my laptop and i cant see full screen the linux, if i change the screen resultation the laptop freeze... any suggnestion?? thanks... i need to install any driver or something?
[22:30] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, might be a good idea.
[22:30] <toni_m> sorry 4 repeat
[22:30] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, am i an idiot ?
[22:30] <jrkubuntu> hola
[22:30] <rtypo> gosh...
[22:30] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, not at all.
[22:30] <rtypo> haven't seen that setting
[22:30] <Guest34692> does anyone know of an alternative to the program called liarliar that would work in lenny or does anyone know of some software that detects lies from someone's voice using a mic that is packaged in a .deb file?
[22:30] <jrkubuntu> hola soy de venezuela
[22:30] <oCean_> Guest34692: is there an ubuntu question in there?
[22:30] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, thanks, i'll be more careful with the settings
[22:31] <theD3viL11> i have problem with Audacious: i click play and nothing happens -  no sound at all. Sound in gnome is normal. I tried all output sound servers..any suggestions? tnx..
[22:31] <savvas> oCean_: "that is packaged in a .deb file" :)
[22:31] <trinidadflores> For ubuntu is there a program that for webdesign that will show  youin the detailed view where you are at in the code?  I am wanting to get away from winblows and this is what i am looking for in a specific feature.
[22:31] <Guest34692> oCean_, well i meant ubuntu 8.10 since it's like very similar to debian lenny (i have both ubuntu and debian)
[22:31] <Geek`N`Proud> Guest34692: try #ubuntu-offtopic or #debian
[22:31] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, np. I'm not entirely sure whether it'll do what we want it to do, but it's a good guess at least. And that way it has worked forme.
[22:31] <oCean_> !es | jrkubuntu
[22:32] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, i'm doing a restart now...
[22:32] <oCean_> Guest34692: ok :)
[22:32] <dudette> what is the difference between xorg and xfree86?
[22:32] <toni_m> hello ive just installed linux ubuntu at my laptop and i cant see full screen the linux, if i change the screen resultation the laptop freeze... any suggnestion?? thanks... i need to install any driver or something?.. how to update my drivers..?? thanksssssssssss
[22:32] <jrkubuntu> ok gracias
[22:33] <enndy> Hello... I'm new using ubuntu... I have to update the alsa-driver-1.0.19...I downloaded the compress file alsa-driver-1.0.19...how do I update ???
[22:33] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, let's see how it turns out.
[22:33] <renergy> dudette: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System#X.Org_and_XFree86
[22:34] <dudette> renergy: thx
[22:34] <Chousuke> enndy: it's not recommended to upgrade alsa manually like that.
[22:35] <wolter> hi, how can i get the latest v4l source for ubuntu?
[22:35] <viator> how do install the proper driver for the following
[22:35] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, it surprises me that it still doesn't work... 20 seconds before successful connection
[22:35] <Chousuke> enndy: are you sure you need to upgrade alsa anyway?
[22:35] <viator> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[22:35] <viator> it went into "low graphics mode"
[22:35] <theD3viL11> i have problem with Audacious: i click play and nothing happens -  no sound at all. Sound in gnome is normal. I tried all output sound servers..any suggestions? tnx..
[22:35] <viator> upon boot
[22:35] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, that does surprise me as well. That's double the time it took before.
[22:36] <graingert> wolter-> what do you need it for?
[22:36] <joetromondo> hi, how do you rip a dvd to divX ? I installes dvd-rip but It seems it only rips from dvds, not from the files on a folder
[22:36] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, i guess that means back to the old setting of having them all set to auto.
[22:36] <doglino> HOw I do to disable ORCA??
[22:36] <wolter> how do i disable jaunty updates? I am in intrepid but once enabled them to get the graphic drivers
[22:36] <freedumMan> my cpu temp is 141 F  wow WTF
[22:36] <viator> !ati
[22:36] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, no, that's not a problem, i think it was around 17-20 seconds before, i just said around 10 seconds, my mistake
[22:37] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, now the "Auto eth0" has "Connect automatically" checked again...
[22:37] <enndy> closuke...look... I have a HP pavilion dv600... I have problem with the microphone... I search and found a few website with possible solution to my Microphone problem... I do something in the terminal and NOW I have problem with the audio.
[22:37] <rtypo> i don't understand, so i unchecked it and after restart it is checked
[22:37] <gvsa123> wolter: isn't in software sources?
[22:37] <Jampiter> I have both kdm and gdm installed. Kdm is active. How do I change this to gdm?
[22:38] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, it might be because it's the default profile. This way, the network manager always has a profile.
[22:38] <wolter> gvsa123, yes, but now i have disabled it and the updates won't stop showing up
[22:38] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, and since you have no dhcp server, it should switch to your static profile fast.
[22:38] <wolter> gvsa123, well, i think they are jaunty updates..
[22:39] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, i googled it, and it showed a thread from ubuntu forums: someone says that "This is a bug in network manager"
[22:39] <ChotaZ> can anyone help me?
[22:39] <ChotaZ> i cant get Exaile to work with mp3 files?
[22:39] <ChotaZ> it just wont list the files I have
[22:39] <wolter> gvsa123, how can i know?
[22:40] <theD3viL11> i have problem with Audacious: i click play and nothing happens -  no sound at all. Sound in gnome is normal. I tried all output sound servers..any suggestions? tnx..
[22:41] <zmitya> guys, what can I do if my amarok is so quiet ? I have tuned everything :(
[22:41] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, odd solution, but it might be true
[22:41] <rtypo> s3r3n1t7, also, if i uncheck "System setting" in "Auto eth0", it shows checked when I re-enter the Edit Connections window
[22:41] <gvsa123> wolter: whether it's an intrepid or jaunty update?
[22:41] <yggdrasil> can somone help me with nvidia drivers on an inspiron laptop.
[22:41] <wolter> gvsa123, yes
[22:41] <nellmathew> hey guys, when using the minimal cd for jaunty - it installs the latest release right (beta, not alpha, because the minimal iso was downloaded a while ago..)
[22:41] <s3r3n1t7> rtypo, yeah, i'm guessing it's because it's a default profile.
[22:41] <viator> i have a raedon mobility m6 ly how do install the proper driver
[22:42] <oCean_> nellmathew: for all jaunty issues join #ubuntu+1, not this channel
[22:42] <copland> Ok I am having a problem with all flavors of Ubuntu and a FireGL 2 card apparently it does not like the Vesa driver but on all flavors when I go to do dpkg-reconfigure Xserver-xorg I get half way though the setup and it crashes just drops me out ot a command prompt.  and Xorg -configure does the same thing starts to load and then craps out
[22:42] <gvsa123> wolter: i actually have no idea, except maybe making the assumption that once it has been disabled, all other updates that come are for intrepid... i have those option ticked on my system anyway
[22:42] <Jampiter> How do I change the login screen from kdm to gdm?
[22:43] <Aison> hello, is there a mysql-server package that is compiled with -fPIC?
[22:43] <wolter> gvsa123, i am experimenting now, disbling distribution updates like intrepid-security and now testing if the security updates i saw before are now hidden
[22:43] <oCean_> wolter: open (in editor) your /etc/apt/sources.list file, and make sure the jaunty repos are disabled. (e.g. line started with #) Then run "sudo apt-get update"
[22:43] <wolter> oCean_, thanks
[22:44] <bluenzo> Jeruvy, im back lol
[22:44] <wolter> oCean_, gvsa123 now I am sure the updates are from intrepid, for the security updates don't show up anymore!
[22:44] <gvsa123> wolter: i don't think they would be removed once installed... maybe it just means it won't get updated any further
[22:44] <kai>  hallo
[22:44] <Jeruvy> bluenzo: wb :)
[22:44] <oCean_> wolter: ok
[22:45] <Jampiter> How do I change the login screen from kdm to gdm?
[22:45] <kai> cant ping wifi conection
[22:45] <kai> anny help
[22:46] <ScottG> What could be a reason for a window not accepting text input anymore? I can click on everything fine but when i type it doesnt enter anything. Even when I kill the program and restart it. I need to reboot X to fix the problem
[22:46] <wolter> and thinking that all this time i installed no updates because I thought they were jaunty updates..
[22:46] <graingert> kai-> please give more information, what ip can you not ping?
[22:46] <ScottG> I can still copy paste things in as well, just not type
[22:46] <ChotaZ> How can I get my Creative Fatal1ty headset to work on Ubuntu 8.10?
[22:46] <WebcamWonder> Jampiter: Log out. On the login screen, there should be an option to login into GDM, or KDM
[22:46] <graingert> WebcamWonder-> not true
[22:46] <kai> get a dhcp address of the router and cant ping the router
[22:47] <WebcamWonder> graingert: Most of the time it is :)
[22:47] <Jampiter> WebcamWonder: Not Gnome or KDE, the login manager
[22:47] <s3r3n1t7> kai, check your router settings then.
[22:47] <graingert> WebcamWonder-> you mean gnome or kde
[22:47] <graingert> WebcamWonder-> this guy is on about GDM or KDM
[22:47] <WebcamWonder> graingert: Oops, sorry, long day :o
[22:47] <viator> i have a raedon mobility m6 ly how do install the proper driver
[22:48] <graingert> Jampiter-> it's one of the debian alternative package option things
[22:48] <graingert> Jampiter-> google it :-p
[22:48] <WebcamWonder> graingert: Don't you have to do a dpkg reconfigure?
[22:48] <viator> dpkg-reconfigure doesnt even give me options anymore
[22:48] <viator> just for the kb
[22:48] <Jampiter> graingert: Ok :) Thanks
[22:48] <viator> not the graqphics
[22:48] <graingert> Jampiter-> WebcamWonder "do a dpkg reconfigure"
[22:48] <viator> wht the heck
[22:48] <ChotaZ> Who can suggest me a good media player for both audio and video files?
[22:49] <kai> i can ping when i conect drouh a networkkabel but not over wifi
[22:49] <graingert> ChotaZ-> mplayer
[22:49] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: mplayer
[22:49] <Jampiter> graingert: Ok :)
[22:49] <graingert> kai-> what can you ping?
[22:49] <ScottG> ChotaZ: mplayer is kinda minimalistic but does work very well. A good media center program is VLC
[22:50] <graingert> kai-> are you sure it is not a wifi malfunction
[22:50] <graingert> ChotaZ-> totem is good and default
[22:50] <kai> the router over networkkabl but not when i use wifi says not alowed
[22:50] <RediXe> What is the most ram 32bit ubuntu can support?
[22:50] <ChotaZ> graingert: I got mplayer but I cant see the mp3 files inside my folders
[22:51] <PhotoJim> RediXe: 4 GiB
[22:51] <WebcamWonder> RediXe: 4 GB including MMIO
[22:51] <kai> i used diferent wifi cards all no ping allowed
[22:51] <RediXe> Okay so 8gb would need 64bit
[22:51] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I have a SATA drive that is now listed in /media with the PATA as the file system drive.. when I install ubuntu 9.04 as a fresh copy can I install it to the SATA drive instead and make the SATA the file system drive?
[22:51] <WebcamWonder> RediXe: Definitely
[22:51] <RediXe> Thanks!
[22:51] <WebcamWonder> RediXe: To fully recognize the 8GB, i.e.
[22:51] <kai> i can ping whith a dial up modem
[22:51] <graingert> ChotaZ-> that makes little or no sence
[22:51] <graingert> ChotaZ-> sense*
[22:51] <ChotaZ> graingert, WebcamWonder: What to do if you can't see the mp3 listed inside your directories when trying to open with Mplayer?
[22:51] <kai> put no wifi ping allowed
[22:52] <dudette> has anybody installed the package "mediawiki"?
[22:52] <mikevankuik> hi I'm trying to remotely login thru gdm but it doesn't react :( I'm forgetting something again... can anyone help?
[22:52] <graingert> ChotaZ-> what does ls -altr say?
[22:52] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: Can you see the files listed when you browse it, using nautilus?
[22:52] <ChotaZ> WebcamWonder,yes.
[22:52] <dudette> where is the root www for mediawiki after installation?
[22:53] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: You need to change the filters on the current dialog. Look for a dropdown on the bottom of the window. And change it to Audio files, or all files
[22:53] <ChotaZ> graingert, what should i look for in ls -altr?
[22:53] <ChotaZ> i changed it to all files in mplayer
[22:53] <graingert> ChotaZ-> ok try ls -altr *.mp3
[22:53] <ChotaZ> and it didnt worked.
[22:54] <graingert> ChotaZ-> that should list all the mp3's in your current directory
[22:54] <g9vb> channel
[22:54] <Pointer_22> Hi gurus, is it possible to force gnome-terminal to use for selection CLIPBOARD instead of PRIMARY buffer?
[22:54] <ChotaZ> I have Gary Jules - Mad World.mp3 inside my music folder
[22:54] <ChotaZ> but it wont show in mplayer
[22:54] <g9vb> has anyone used the "ultimate edition"
[22:54] <ChotaZ> if I right click, I can open it just fine with MPlayer(btw: how do I set mplayer has default media playback)?
[22:55] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: Right click -> Properties -> Open with, select mplayer
[22:55] <_Whipper> Pointer_22: The Force says:dunno.. :)
[22:56] <tehm0nk> can anyone help me out... i'm trying to implement a system at my work to run our server off ubuntu
[22:56] <WebcamWonder> tehm0nk: You need to be more specific with regards to the problem you are facing
[22:56] <tehm0nk> there are a few things we need to have... but i dont know if they possible with ubuntu.
[22:56] <tehm0nk> ok the things in place right now are:
[22:56] <zenlunatic> hm... let me put on my mind reading helmet
[22:57] <tehm0nk> domain controller / active directory
[22:57] <tehm0nk> dns
[22:57] <uhsf> please help me recover my system. e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda1
[22:57] <brandon_> does any know what a good video editor that I could use and put them on youtube
[22:57] <oCean_> tehm0nk: the more info you keep in one line, the easier it is to follow
[22:57] <Pointer_22> _Whipper: Anyway would be good, but only for gnome-terminal. Idea would be to get it like Putty does for windows
[22:57] <tehm0nk> and a ms sql server 2005 database
[22:57] <PhotoJim> Pointer_22: there is a PuTTy package for Ubuntu, if that helps...
[22:57] <oCean_> tehm0nk: otherwise your info will get lost in all the other messages in the channel.
[22:57] <brandon_> does any know what a good video editor that I could use and put them on youtube
[22:58] <ChotaZ> webcamwonder, Mplayer is refusing to close, what do I do? sorry for the noob stuff, but I'm a first timer ^^
[22:58] <Pointer_22> PhotoJim: Already tried, it uses the same buffer as gnome-terminal (not clipboard, but selection buffer)
[22:58] <Aison> is there some experimental mysql package trunk somewhere?
[22:58] <tehm0nk> we would like to implement exchange (only for mail & calendar sharing...)
[22:58] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: ALT + F2, xkill, enter, click on mplayer
[22:58] <brandon_> does any know what a good video editor that I could use and put them on youtube
[22:58] <PhotoJim> Pointer_22: ok, just wanted to be sure you knew.  too bad it didn't work.
[22:58] <Huufarted> Anybody know of a good panel applet or widget for Gnome to display disk capacities?
[22:59] <tehm0nk> where would i start... i've already installed ubuntu Desktop because i wanted the gui interface...
[22:59] <brandon_> does any know what a good video editor that I could use and put them on youtube
[22:59] <_Whipper> tehm0nk: just ask
[22:59] <Huufarted> brandon_: put WHAT on Youtube?  What format are they in?
[22:59] <WebcamWonder> tehm0nk: You are asking for MS specific products. You will find their alternatives on Ubuntu. Not the same exact product
[22:59] <ChotaZ> wecamwonder, still wont close >.<
[23:00] <brandon_> wav
[23:00] <Huufarted> !who | brandon
[23:00] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: Open a terminal, and type in: pkill mplayer
[23:00] <dasTexasNoob> brandon_: avidemux as editor, but ffmpeg to convert
[23:00] <tehm0nk> i really just need to know if doing all of that is possible. the exchange server for what i want is probably doable... the sql server could be done through a virtual machine running winxp + sql server 2k5 express.
[23:00] <toni_m> how do i
[23:00] <toni_m> add modelines
[23:00] <ChotaZ> webcamwonder and now it just stucks everytime i try to play an mp3file =\
[23:00] <toni_m> you need to add modelines to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf - if you dunno what to do, ask at ##ubuntu about adding modelines.
[23:00] <graingert> ChotaZ-> use totem
[23:00] <tehm0nk> the big pitfall for me right now per the it guy of mine is the active directory. is there something even LIKE that in ubuntu or am i just wasting time trying...
[23:01] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: So, did it close?
[23:01] <graingert> ChotaZ-> or mplayer terminal style
[23:01] <brandon_> thank you
[23:01] <WebcamWonder> tehm0nk: Please keep your discussion in one line. Makes it others easier to follow
[23:01] <toni_m> im seeing at sys/ max of my screen resultation 800x600
[23:01] <uhsf> please help me recover my system. fsck fail at /dev/sda1. it was ext4 but i installed a winxp virtual machine with raw disk access over it. my /boot is on /dev/sdb1 so why can't it just skip /dev/sda1?
[23:01] <toni_m> how i can disable it that.. i have 1024.. ive just installed ubuntu.
[23:01] <ChotaZ> graingert, you guys suggested mplayer for a reason right? and it was supposed to work, i intend to find out why it isnt working
[23:01] <WebcamWonder> !resolution | toni_m
[23:01] <dasTexasNoob> quick question (anyone): how can I have a vfat partition show on Win XP?
[23:01] <ChotaZ> webcamwonder, closed now
[23:01] <Pointer_22> PhotoJim: Thanks for checking, I feel I will have to switch to this selection buffer idiology, as I see everthing I select in any other program, get into selection buffer and then with shift+insert can be pasted into terminal
[23:02] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: mplayer is good for a terminal based player. The default gui, gmplayer is kinda crappy. For a gui based, I would prefer you go with totem as well
[23:02] <ChotaZ> what about codec packs?
[23:02] <ChotaZ> what do you guys suggest me to get?
[23:03] <John5555> Every time I click my volume control it says no Gstreamer plugins, how do I configure my sound card for ubuntu 8.10?
[23:03] <lenswipe> can someone help me here with CSS, the guys in CSS refuse to help me
[23:03] <gui-lover> what is the most usable gtk theme that bridges the gap betweeen usability and eyecandy ???
[23:03] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: Totem should automatically find a plugin for you if you don't have one installed
[23:04] <WebcamWonder> !restrictedformats | ChotaZ
[23:04] <scott_> can anyone help me with TFTP?
[23:04] <ChotaZ> webcamwonder, OMG, now i got the problem
[23:04] <ChotaZ> it was teamspeak
[23:05] <lenswipe> can someone  please help me with CSS
[23:05] <ChotaZ> when i closed teamspeak, totem opened a music just fine, lemme try mplayer again
[23:05] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: Let me guess. Teamspeak was running in WINE with ALSA, that blocked PA from connecting to your soundcard
[23:05] <ChotaZ> wrong
[23:05] <ChotaZ> i did
[23:05] <eighty4> lenswipe: not really the correct channel :D
[23:05] <ChotaZ> apt-get install teamspeak-client
[23:05] <John5555> can someone help me configure my sound card?
[23:06] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: Well, if you are running ALSA without the dmix plugin, only 1 application can output to your sound card(provided it has no hardware mixing)
[23:06] <WebcamWonder> !sound | John5555
[23:06] <oCean_> gui-lover: this is not the channel for such discussion, you might want to join #ubuntu-offtopic for example
[23:06] <gui-lover> what u guysout of the gnome desktopps in ubuntu8.10? think about the standart lay
[23:06] <rathel> On the command line, how do you only ls hidden or . directories?
[23:06] <ChotaZ> webcamwonder, I don't even know what ALSA is, I ran sudo apt-get install Teamspeak-client
[23:06] <virtuald> ~
[23:06] <gui-lover> oCean: ok
[23:07] <wolter> hi
[23:07] <wolter> need help on where to get the latest v4l drivers to compile
[23:08] <Guery82> join/#ubuntu-es
[23:08] <infomomo> hey guys, what program let's me see "Extract Here" in the menu... for .zip and .tar.gz files ???
[23:09] <crdlb> infomomo: file-roller has a nautilus plugin to add that
[23:09] <toni_m> nothing get with my screen resultation....
[23:09] <ChotaZ> webcamwonder, how can I have teamspeak and mplayer working at the same time?
[23:09] <bluenzo> infomomo, on ubuntu? .zip files?
[23:10] <_Whipper> weery nice job with the ub-studio dvd.. *dmn*
[23:10] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: I don't know anything about teamspeak, sorry
[23:10] <jklock> wolter: http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Main_Page would be where I would look if you havent already
[23:10] <toni_m> why ate system/screen resultation/ it dosent give me more than 800x600 my screen is 1024.... any help please?
[23:10] <wolter> jklock, well, i did look over there, but it didn't seem too official. thanks
[23:11] <_Whipper> toni_m: 'cos u got the wrong driver..
[23:11] <ChotaZ> webcamwonder, then what would cause 2 applications to conflict and not being able to output sound at the same time?
[23:11] <toni_m> _Whipper how i will get the right driver?
[23:11] <jklock> wolter: that is where http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/drivers.html wants you to go now
[23:11] <nschembr> tehm0nk: what do you want know
[23:11] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: Like I told you. If you are using ALSA without dmix, then any 1 application can only output sound to a soundcard (assuming no hw mixing present)
[23:11] <_Whipper> toni_m: what chip-set?
[23:12] <toni_m> _Whipper: how i can see that? :(
[23:12] <nschembr> tehm0nk: oops old post
[23:12] <J_Litewski> i got a weird request, does anyone have a dell inspiron 1000? I need the xorg.conf settings
[23:12] <bopl> hi
[23:12] <_Whipper> toni_m: what laptop ?-)
[23:12] <toni_m> its a new laptop for me but old its a kinda like gift..
[23:12] <toni_m> toshiba
[23:13] <toni_m> _Whipper: Toshiba.. :/
[23:13] <bopl> I have laptop with monitor output.  I want to have 2 screns (to have bigger display, like 2 desktops)  how to?  8.10
[23:13] <toni_m> intel celeron
[23:13] <rtypo> infomomo, isn't it "Archive Manager" ?
[23:13] <graingert> bopl-> buy another monitor, plug it in, off you go
[23:13] <infomomo> rtypo: do you know the apt-get install for it ?
[23:13] <graingert> bopl-> what is your graphics card?
[23:13] <toni_m> _Whipper: ?
[23:13] <bopl> graingert: intell
[23:13] <_Whipper> toni_m: yes, celeron is your processor..
[23:14] <here4thegear> Hi, I'm kind of used to useing aptitud install package package package... I'm working on setting up my wireless and the instructions I'll be working off of use apt-get.... I'm also pretty new to linux as a whole, so, the question is, can I use aptitude install instead of apt-get in all cases or does it depend on what I'm trying to do
[23:14] <joetromondo> how do I encode a dvd folder with matroska ?
[23:14] <graingert> bopl-> should work out of box
[23:14] <toni_m> _Whipper: how i can see how what and tell you?
[23:14] <bopl> graingert: well I plugged the LCD,  but on the LCD and on laptop I have just clone of same picture
[23:14] <_Whipper> toni_m: what model of toshiba..
[23:14] <graingert> bopl-> ok you need to mess about with xorg conf
[23:14] <WebcamWonder> here4thegear: Yes you can
[23:14] <graingert> bopl-> or somit
[23:14] <graingert> bye xxx
[23:14] <toni_m> _whipper: toshiba satellite... its kinda old..
[23:14] <jklock> here4thegear: aptitude uses apt, so yes
[23:14] <bopl> I want to have desktop 1 on monitor 1  and 2 on 2,  or one very wide virtual desktop etc
[23:14] <jklock> whhhops!
[23:14] <rtypo> infomomo, i think it's file-roller ?
[23:15] <bopl> graingert: how to? what keywords?
[23:15] <_Whipper> toni_m: look at the bottom
[23:15] <J_Litewski> toni_m, is it the grey brick?
[23:15] <infomomo> rtypo: yerah, thnaks man, file-roller and file-roller2
[23:15] <here4thegear> WebcamWonder: jklock: thanks, I wrote a script to automate most of this install but used aptitude and didn't want to just run it and mess anything up...
[23:15] <rtypo> infomomo, np :)
[23:16] <_Whipper> toni_m: propably ati then..
[23:16] <ChotaZ> webcamwonder, maybe getting alsa with dmix will solve my problem?
[23:16] <_Whipper> *doh*
[23:16] <toni_m> model no.. ps140e-03csr-gk
[23:16] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: Getting PA working would be the official choice
[23:16] <lenswipe> can someone help me with this CSS code please?
[23:16] <toni_m> _Whipper: my router restarted..
[23:16] <WebcamWonder> !offtopic | lenswipe
[23:17] <toni_m> _Whipper: model no.. ps140e-03csr-gk
[23:17] <ChotaZ> webcamwonder: Whats PA?
[23:17] <WebcamWonder> !pulseaudio | ChotaZ
[23:17] <_Whipper> toni_m: now google that
[23:17] <toni_m> how to google that.... like...
[23:17] <lenswipe> WebcamWonder: i tried #ccs but they just refused to help me and then started being rude to me, so i came to find some proper community support
[23:17] <WebcamWonder> lenswipe: #web
[23:18] <lenswipe> thanks ill try that
[23:18] <Fleisch> anyone ever have issue with ubuntus max sound being a dull whisper?
[23:18] <_Whipper> toni_m: like: www.google.com: blaahblaa
[23:18] <viator> can someone help me out with my video card
[23:18] <here4thegear> second (and hopefully last) question of the evening. I have Ubuntu set up but not ubuntu studio. can I get the studio items from aptitude or do I need to download them somewhere, or should I overwite my ubuntu install with an install of studio
[23:18] <jklock> whipper: :)
[23:18] <toni_m> _Whipper: what i need to install....
[23:18] <toni_m> lool
[23:18] <_Whipper> :)
[23:18] <_Whipper> sorry :)
[23:18] <ChotaZ> webcamwonder, Installed PA, anything else I should do?
[23:19] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[23:19] <jklock> here4thegear : http://www.ubustu.com/globe/2007/05/23/add-ubuntu-studio-to-an-existing-ubuntu-install/
[23:19] <ChotaZ> 8.10
[23:19] <clearscreen1> not sure if I should be asking this in ubuntu, but why can't I open Configuration tab for irchelper in pidgin?
[23:19] <jklock> here4thegear: may be a good place to start
[23:19] <_Whipper> Anyone got solutions for Toni?
[23:19] <clearscreen1> I'm trying to auto-auth on quakenet, apparently irchelper has support for this, but I can't open the config
[23:19] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: You should already have PA... I don't see how you can install it... you need to configure teamspeak properly, most likely. But like I said, I haven't worked with teamspeak before to guide you
[23:20] <toni_m> anyone got a solution for me please?? my laptop.. model no.. ps140e-03csr-gk    toshiba satellite..
[23:20] <cybernet> hi all
[23:20] <here4thegear> cool jklock thanks...
[23:20] <Akiyuki> Woot! Installing Ubuntu for the first time :)
[23:20] <toni_m> _Whipper: ???
[23:20] <ChotaZ> webcamwonder, if I open mplayer first, teamspeak will automute my speaker and microphone, if I open teamspeak first, I can talk to people and listen to them, but if I open mplayer after it freezes and i need to pkill it.
[23:20] <_Whipper> toni_m: just kiddin'
[23:20] <ChotaZ> ots just weird...
[23:21] <snowveil> I'm converting a local hard disk over from FAT32 to EXT3...besides changing its information in /etc/fstab, will I need to do anything else?
[23:21] <WebcamWonder> _Whipper: toni_m It is a Trident card
[23:21] <_Whipper> toni_m: so.. i do the googling for u ?-)
[23:21] <WebcamWonder> _Whipper: http://icecat.co.uk/p/Toshiba/PS140E-03CSR/Satellite%25201400-503.htm
[23:21] <toni_m> im newbie to ubuntu..
[23:21] <_Whipper> oh :)
[23:21] <_Whipper> nice
[23:21] <wolter> hey, my insmod isn't finding any module! help
[23:22] <toni_m> WebcamWonder: what should i install then?
[23:22] <JW> Ubuntu 8.04.1 is "Hardy Heron" right?
[23:22] <wolter> yes
[23:22] <JW> thank you
[23:22] <wolter> np
[23:22] <WebcamWonder> ChotaZ: Yeah, that would be the expected behaviour. You can confirm that teamspeak is blocking your soundcard, by running mplayer in terminal, and it will say that it cannot connec to to your sound server. But, like I am saying the third time, i cannot help you
[23:22] <J_Litewski> how do you restart X?
[23:23] <WebcamWonder> toni_m: I don't know. I haven't worked with Trident cards before. I just did the googling for you :p
[23:23] <wolter> J_Litewski, Ctrl+Alt+F7
[23:23] <ChotaZ> Anyone that uses TeamSpeak?
[23:23] <wolter> J_Litewski, ir control alt delete
[23:23] <wolter> no ChotaZ
[23:23] <WebcamWonder> J_Litewski: CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE
[23:23] <J_Litewski> ctrl+alt+backspace didn't work for me
[23:23] <toni_m> anyone can help me??
[23:24] <wolter> J_Litewski, neither did the other hotkey?
[23:24] <WebcamWonder> J_Litewski: CTRL + ALT + F1, login in tty, restart X from there
[23:24] <_Whipper> toni_m: yes.. hang-on..
[23:24] <J_Litewski> ctrl+alt+F7 didn't do anything
[23:24] <toni_m> _Whipper: Thanks alot m8
[23:24] <Fleisch> how do you do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=bb3d3cc7cf1f01388ddcf8bf53af7240&p=2397488&postcount=9
[23:25] <_Whipper> toni_m: somebody else than me, cos im hangin' on my phone.. :)
[23:25] <J_Litewski> ctrl+alt+delete locked the screen
[23:25] <bluenzo> ikonia, are you there?
[23:25] <toni_m> _whipper can you help me or no ? :S
[23:25] <_Whipper> toni_m: thats the connection, not that im speaking to one..
[23:25] <WebcamWonder> Fleisch: Open the file in any editor, and add that line to the end, or replace the line, if the existing configuration is present
[23:25] <remoteCTRL> !equalizer
[23:25] <J_Litewski> i'm trying to get X to reconfigure the xorg.conf file
[23:26] <ChotaZ> Can anyone help me with installing and using my usb headset?
[23:26] <remoteCTRL> is there something like a systemwide equalizer?
[23:26] <WebcamWonder> Fleisch: Also, you might need to root priviledges to edit that file
[23:26] <Akiyuki> Anyone available for help? I am trying to do a network install of Ubuntu, however when it attempts to download the Release File, it errors out saying one is not available on the mirror. I have tried several mirrors in the list. I think it may be a network issue, but am unsure.
[23:26] <_Whipper> toni_m: did u check that url?
[23:26] <toni_m> _Whipper: what url?
[23:26] <WebcamWonder> _Whipper: That was the URL showing the configuration of the laptop model :P
[23:26] <_Whipper> *doh*
[23:27] <WebcamWonder> toni_m: Open a terminal, and do lspci | grep Trident, and tell me if you see anything
[23:27] <_Whipper> WebcamWonder: u take over.. im out :)
[23:27] <remoteCTRL> J_Litewski: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:27] <^Ocean^> How can i remove the NVIDA drivers ?
[23:27] <bluenzo> can anyone help me with grub? I have a specific question and the links in !grub doesnt help.
[23:28] <WebcamWonder> ^Ocean^: How did you install the nvidia drivers?
[23:28] <oCean_> bluenzo: you're back!
[23:28] <ghindo> Can anybody tell me what /etc/motd is?
[23:28] <^Ocean^> WebcamWonder, its the One from the Nvida website
[23:28] <WebcamWonder> ghindo: message of the day
[23:28] <remoteCTRL> ghindo: the motto of the day
[23:29] <remoteCTRL> err right
[23:29] <WebcamWonder> ^Ocean^: You need to manually uninstall it, by invoking the "--uninstall" parameter with the installer
[23:29] <ghindo> WebcamWonder: Cool, and what does that entail?
[23:29] <martin__> hey
[23:29] <oCean_> bluenzo: It seems that Ikonia is away from keyboard, for time being. Anyway it might be good advice to decribe your problem, including some details (like things you've already tried)
[23:29] <bluenzo> !grub
[23:30] <toni_m> lspci | grep Trident
[23:30] <toni_m> emcpn@toni-laptop:~$ lspci | grep Trident
[23:30] <toni_m> 00:00.0 Host bridge: ALi Corporation M1644/M1644T Northbridge+Trident (rev 01)
[23:30] <toni_m> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XPAi1 (rev 82)
[23:30] <WebcamWonder> ghindo: It displays the MOTD on login. Nothing too special I guess
[23:30] <oCean_> bluenzo: when you do that in a pastebin link, you can paste that link every so now and then in the channel, asking for help, but no longer have the need to re-word your problems over and over again
[23:30] <WebcamWonder> !pastebin | toni_m
[23:30] <Akiyuki> Anyone available for help? I am trying to do a network install of Ubuntu, however when it attempts to download the Release File, it errors out saying one is not available on the mirror. I have tried several mirrors in the list. I think it may be a network issue, but am unsure.  i checked the wrong, and it says that particular device has a dhcp assigned IP address... however, the network autoconfiguration tool is failing now inside of ubuntu installer
[23:30] <ghindo> WebcamWonder: Thank you for the help!
[23:31] <^Ocean^> WebcamWonder, Any ideas on how to remove the driver ?
[23:31] <WebcamWonder> ^Ocean^: You need to manually uninstall it, by invoking the "--uninstall" parameter with the installer
[23:31] <toni_m> WebcamWonder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139243/
[23:31] <_Whipper> ocean: synaptic works also..
[23:31] <WebcamWonder> toni_m: Yup, that confirms it, you have a trident VGA
[23:31] <WebcamWonder> _Whipper: He installed it via the nVidia website :)
[23:32] <valentin__> Hi There
[23:32] <toni_m> WebcamWonder: what should i install now? :/
[23:32] <ChotaZ> Anyone available to help me with my usb headset?
[23:32] <_Whipper> WebcamWonder: so? i did that mistake too once :)
[23:32] <WebcamWonder> _Whipper: No No No. It is not a mistake. It is the only thing that actually works :p
[23:32] <WebcamWonder> _Whipper: At least for me, everything else is too broken to work :P
[23:32] <remoteCTRL> strongly disagree on that..
[23:33] <toni_m> Webcamwonder: ???
[23:33] <valentin__> Is it possible to automatically open gnomekeyring on autologin?
[23:33] <WebcamWonder> toni_m: Gimme a min to google
[23:33] <bluenzo> Can someone help me with grub please? !grub doesnt help
[23:33] <toni_m> how i can fix my screen :S
[23:33] <_Whipper> WebcamWonder: then your system is screwed-up :)
[23:33] <toni_m> oki doki thanks alot
[23:33] <jklock> Chotaz: I can try
[23:33] <oCean_> bluenzo: did you see my advice?
[23:33] <ChotaZ> jklock
[23:33] <jklock> Chotaz: will need make and model.
[23:33] <BrixSat> hello
[23:33] <WebcamWonder> _Whipper: Seriously, but no. I had a long list of problems with the drivers that Ubuntu repo provides me. As a result, I ended up installing nvidia drivers myself everytime
[23:33] <remoteCTRL> bluenzo: what's your goal
[23:33] <ChotaZ> I have a creative fatality headset and running sudo asoundconflist
[23:33] <BrixSat> i have a problem on my ubuntu server 8.10
[23:34] <viator> still tryting to get ati mobilty working
[23:34] <WebcamWonder> !trident
[23:34] <ChotaZ> i get a soundcard named headset
[23:34] <viator> ugh
[23:34] <jklock> Chotaz: seems like your getting a F@T@L ERROR! GOD I GOT JOKES
[23:34] <remoteCTRL> !ask > BrixSat
[23:34] <_Whipper> WebcamWonder: ok.. didnt mean no harm.. :)
[23:34] <ChotaZ> you do
[23:34] <ChotaZ> xD
[23:34] <jklock> Chotaz: so whats the problem
[23:34] <ChotaZ> i would like to know how to use it as the output driver, and how to get the microphone working
[23:35] <toni_m> Waiting.... :( :( :(
[23:35] <jklock> Chotaz: Tell me you have done some googling on this subject.
[23:35] <BrixSat> i have a problem on my ubuntu server 8.10, no network, "ifdown could not read network interfaces file /etc/network/interfaces:2: missplaced option
[23:35] <ChotaZ> i have
[23:35] <Akiyuki> Anyone know why or how to fix dhcp issues during install? Installing over PXE.. got ip addresss, but installer cant access inernet, keeps saying dhcp not receiving ip
[23:35] <ChotaZ> but beeing a first timer, i dont relaly know what to do
[23:35] <bluenzo> can someone friggin help me plz :|
[23:35] <ChotaZ> really*
[23:36] <_Whipper> !patience
[23:36] <remoteCTRL> BrixSat: past your /etc/network/interfaces file to ww.nopaste.org please
[23:36] <oCean_> bluenzo: I ask you once more. Have you seen my advice?
[23:36] <bluenzo> i have been *very* patient
[23:36] <BrixSat> remoteCTRL ok
[23:36] <jklock> Chotaz: Well ubuntu isnt out to get you, so dont give up. I will try to do what I can. Explain to me the steps you have taken so far.
[23:36] <bluenzo> oCean_ what advice?
[23:36] <WebcamWonder> toni_m: I didn't really find anything concreate except for this. http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763964&highlight=trident+r30. I don't know if this works or not
[23:36] <oCean_> bluenzo: the couple of lines I send to you, just a few minutes ago
[23:36] <jklock> Chotaz: also say my name in your replys so it doesnt get lost in confusion
[23:36] <bmarley> Hi
[23:36] <BrixSat> remoteCTRL bug found ;) missplaced # ;)
[23:37] <remoteCTRL> BrixSat: :)
[23:37] <toni_m> WebcamWonder: what should i do ?
[23:37] <ars3biscuits> hi. anyone know of any wireless issues with ubuntu and macbooks? My macbook withubuntu will see some of my neighbours wireless networks but not my own. I brought it into wirj today and it doesn't see the wireless network there either
[23:37] <BrixSat> thnaks once agina ^;
[23:37] <ChotaZ> jklock i wnt System->Administration->Sound
[23:37] <WebcamWonder> toni_m: It gives a step by step guide of what to do. But I don't know if it works or not
[23:37] <ChotaZ> and changed everything to Creative USB HeadSet(ALSA)
[23:37] <bluenzo> ok oCean_
[23:37] <oCean_> bluenzo: I now you were here earlier, I know what happened. That is why I recommend to decribe your problem + details (like what you've already done/tried) in a pastebin link
[23:37] <bmarley> Anyone help with iPhone
[23:37] <_Whipper> ars3biscuits: and thats BAD?
[23:37] <jklock> Chotaz: before anything, are you sure your mic isnt muted? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6396825
[23:37] <oCean_> bluenzo: I'm just trying to help you
[23:38] <bluenzo> oCean_ well i kinda fixed the problem, i just need to do something...kinda like A or B, but im not sure which
[23:38] <bluenzo> oCean_ in grub, how do I know which HDD to type in "setup" command
[23:38] <remoteCTRL> rofl now we know it all:D
[23:38] <mashman> hi could i use wine so i can install my modem driver which is winexe ?
[23:38] <oCean_> bluenzo: ok, now *that* is a very great question!
[23:38] <ChotaZ> jklock, it isng muted.
[23:39] <toni_m> emcpn@toni-laptop:~$ sudo displayconfig-gtk
[23:39] <toni_m> sudo: displayconfig-gtk: command not found
[23:39] <wolter> hi, does anybody have an omnivision 2640 webcam ?
[23:39] <toni_m> WebcamWonder: see that..
[23:39] <mashman> who use wine in here ?
[23:39] <oCean_> bluenzo: very straightforward, no nonsense. However, unfortunately I'm not that grub expert. But that question is absolutely one you can ask the channel right here
[23:39] <bluenzo> oCean_ :(
[23:40] <ChotaZ> jklock, as I was saying i also double clicked the speaker icon and changed the device to Creative Usb Headset (ALSa mixer) then i reopened the mp3file in mplayer,and shound still comes from speakers and not from headset
[23:40] <_Whipper> mashman: whisky is quicker..
[23:40] <WebcamWonder> !info displayconfig-gtk
[23:40] <WebcamWonder> !info displayconfig
[23:40] <WebcamWonder> !find displayconfig
[23:40] <bluenzo> Can someone answer please: In grub, how do I know which HDD to type in "setup" command.
[23:40] <jklock> Chotaz: interesting.
[23:40] <ars3biscuits> Wipper. Yeah, it is bad when I can only get online via an ethernet cable. my eighbours have security on their connections so i can't use then and i'd rather use my own anyway. just seems strange it sees other networks but not my own
[23:40] <Esvandiary> Guessing this isn't possible, but ... Is there any way to force a fsck on next boot without being able to get root (to make /forcefsck or specify the shutdown command)?
[23:40] <ChotaZ> jklock: I tried using the teste buttom at the sound preferences window and it gives an error.
[23:40] <jklock> Chotaz: have you tried removing your speakers from the equation?
[23:40] <jklock> Chotaz: what is the error?
[23:40] <ChotaZ> jklock, will do so right away, i'll unplug the speaker jack.
[23:41] <WebcamWonder> toni_m: What version of ubuntu are youusing?
[23:41] <ChotaZ> jklock, removing the speakers leaded to no sound.
[23:41] <_Whipper> ars3biscuits: hmm.. i would use theirs.. but its my opinion :)
[23:41] <toni_m> WebcamWonder: someone else installed it sec..
[23:41] <remoteCTRL> bluenzo: i still don't quite understand the question, what have you done and what would you like to do?
[23:41] <jklock> Chotaz: thats what I thought was going to happen
[23:41] <eseven73> is there a command so i can have two irc clients running at same time? Im using 8.10 and Konversation
[23:42] <ChotaZ> jklock: error is Could not open audio device for playback, i'll try diffrente usb port.
[23:42] <toni_m> WonderWerbcam: sudo displayconfig-gtk
[23:42] <ars3biscuits> whipper. i probably would if i could cause it's not my main computer but i have 20mbit of my own i'd much rather use
[23:42] <WebcamWonder> toni_m: lsb_release -a, to see the version
[23:42] <bluenzo> remoteCTRL, one second
[23:42] <remoteCTRL> bluenzo: sure
[23:42] <_Whipper> arsebiskuit: u mispell my name.. why?
[23:42] <mashman> where can i download wine ?
[23:42] <eseven73> !u
[23:42] <WebcamWonder> mashman: sudo aptitude install wine
[23:43] <toni_m> WonderWebCam: Release:	8.10
[23:43] <toni_m> Codename:	intrepid
[23:43] <ars3biscuits> haha _Whipper then
[23:43] <mashman> it's already on ubuntu WebcamWonder ?
[23:43] <WebcamWonder> mashman: Yup
[23:43] <toni_m> its 8.10..
[23:43] <bluenzo> remoteCTRL i need to restore grub, i just fixed windows mbr, i finally just got back into windows... Last time i tried "setup (hd0,0)" i think, and it was on the wrong HDD (i have 4 HDDs) i dont know which one im supossed to select
[23:43] <graingert> mashman-> you probably want the latest from wine.somthingorother
[23:43] <mashman> ok
[23:43] <ars3biscuits> how do you pronounce the _
[23:43] <_Whipper> ars3biscuits: much better, thank you
[23:43] <remoteCTRL> bluenzo: oh i see you grub is gone from the mbr
[23:43] <graingert> ars3biscuits-> undieskore
[23:43] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm trying to do a school assignment in Java using Eclipse, but it looks like I have the wrong JRE (1.5). How do I go about fixing this?
[23:43] <ChotaZ> jklock: now this is weird, differente port, same error, but I can use the headset buttons to lower and raise volume.
[23:43] <bluenzo> remoteCTRL, you put in a HDD number in the setup command right? well how do u know what to type...is what im asking
[23:43] <jklock> Chotaz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870001&highlight=creative+fatality+headset give that a lookthrough
[23:44] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:44] <remoteCTRL> bluenzo: there s this thing called supergrub  disk: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[23:44] <eTranquility> Esvandiary: 8.10
[23:44] <valentin__> is it possible to have gnome keyring automatically opened?
[23:44] <jklock> Chotaz: I havent looked through all the way, but there could be some promising information in there. All the xp I have ever had with creative headsets are the kind that have physical sound car connections.
[23:44] <toni_m> WebcamWonder: ???
[23:44] <mashman> and could i install win program like modem driver if i use wine ?
[23:44] <bluenzo> remoteCTRL, just do you know, i have 4 HDDS, Vista, Ubuntu, data (no os), and a blank 40GB
[23:44] <valentin__> i need this as it stores my wifi password
[23:44] <_Whipper> ars3biscuits: its *%¤gd dmn* f**k
[23:44] <remoteCTRL> bluenzo: you  b oot into that and it gives you several options, does it all by itself and is wuite self explanatory
[23:44] <graingert> valentin__-> yes
[23:44] <ars3biscuits> once again, does anyone know if ay issue with ubuntu on macbooks seing available wireless networks? i can see other but not my own
[23:44] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: in that case, just typing "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk" should do it; it should automatically get the JRE with that
[23:44] <graingert> valentin__-> it does by default
[23:45] <valentin__> graingert:  its asking for a wassword every time i start the server ..
[23:45] <remoteCTRL> bluenzo: ya that doesn't matter supergrub disk is able to assmble all that it finds bootable into a proper boot menu
[23:45] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: if it doesn't get the JDK automatically with it, repeat the command but with sun-java6-jre instead of sun-java6-jdk
[23:45] <ChotaZ> jklock: I dont have creative soundcard
[23:45] <graingert> valentin__-> hmm, have you changed your password for your user?
[23:45] <Esvandiary> oops
[23:45] <bluenzo> remoteCTRL ok, can i run that on windows? or do i have to go to cd-live, im on vista right now
[23:45] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: I meant the JRE not JDK in that last sentence
[23:45] <graingert> valentin__-> change it back
[23:45] <valentin__> graingert:  no its a server so i turned autologin on
[23:45] <toni_m> WebcamWonder??
[23:46] <remoteCTRL> bluenzo: you need to burn that .iso onto a cd and boot that cd
[23:46] <WebcamWonder> toni_m: displayconfig-gtk has been removed from Interpid. Great
[23:46] <eTranquility> Esvandiary: Thanks! I'll see if that works. For some reason I thought I already had it installed.
[23:46] <graingert> valentin__-> maybe that is it, disable autologin
[23:46] <graingert> valentin__-> to see if it goes, if it does then file a bug
[23:46] <_Whipper> oh well.. there went my *buntu.. desktop just rolled over and dropped head-first..
[23:46] <jklock> Chotaz: okay. do you have a HS-1000?
[23:46] <ChotaZ> jklock: yes.
[23:46] <bluenzo> remoteCTRL, so if i boot that CD, i can fix the boot stuff? for my two OS's ?
[23:46] <jklock> ok.
[23:46] <kudi> my sound suddenly stop working for the flash plug in, sonata works fine... i tried reinstallin flashplayer and firefox...
[23:46] <Chowder> I was thinking about installing a DVD drive and I was wondering if there is any way to check for an unused IDE port without opening up my PC.
[23:46] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: it is odd that anything put 1.5 on there... shout if you have any more problems :)
[23:46] <valentin__> graingert:   i want it to autologin and auto open keyring .. auto connect to wifi
[23:46] <remoteCTRL> bluenzo: that would be the sole purpose of that thingie;)
[23:47] <WebcamWonder> toni_m: Sorry, I haven't work with trident cards to have any clue as to what to do
[23:47] <valentin__> graingert:  so i can ssh   vnc in
[23:47] <graingert> valentin__-> just disable autologin to see if that fixes the problem; if it does file a bug
[23:47] <bluenzo> remoteCTRL, thanks :)
[23:47] <bluenzo> remoteCTRL,ill look into it
[23:47] <remoteCTRL> bluenzo: np:)
[23:47] <_Whipper> toni_m: you could try in vesa-mode?
[23:47] <Chowder> brb
[23:47] <remoteCTRL> bluenzo: you'll see its eazy
[23:47] <jklock> Chotaz: your going to have to give me a minute, im not finding any good information on that particular device
[23:48] <jklock> Chotaz: trying to formulate a solution.
[23:48] <ChotaZ> jklock: thanks a lot for the help, and dont worry about time, I'm still 16 years old ;)
[23:48] <jklock> Chotaz: I am only three years older than you are :)
[23:49] <valentin__> graingert:  just tested .. it does open the keyring if i turn off autologin
[23:49] <toni_m> WonderWerbcam: how i can see + change my xorg file?
[23:49] <graingert> valentin__-> file a bug
[23:49] <toni_m> could this help me?
[23:49] <toni_m> for solving my problem.
[23:49] <valentin__> graingert:  can wifi password be stored in a different place than keyring?
[23:50] <remoteCTRL> toni_m: may i help you?
[23:50] <ChotaZ> jklock: I already went to creative's website but they only have drivers for windows.
[23:50] <jklock> Chotaz: yeah I know :( sucks.
[23:50] <toni_m> remoteCTRL: i cant fix my screen resultation my driver is trident..
[23:50] <remoteCTRL> toni_m: requires some steps but is doable
[23:50] <toni_m> im using laptop
[23:50] <J_Litewski> why would xorg.conf be 0 bytes?
[23:50] <graingert> valentin__-> probably not, may I recomend that  a server is wired in
[23:50] <eTranquility> Esvandiary: Okay, I installed the jre but Eclipse doesn't see it, still have 1.5 as the only JRE there. As for how it got there, I'm sure I probably broke it myself somehow, lol. So I guess I have to manually add the JRE? Where can I find it?
[23:50] <gerzel> I am starting to get upset with this version of Ubuntu...Dunno if it is the new hardware or what but I've never had this much trouble with sound on my other system...  Though this system is using an onboard soundcard while the old box has an old audigy which doesn't seem to be supported anymore.
[23:50] <toni_m> remoteCTRL: how can you help me please?
[23:50] <remoteCTRL> toni_m: trident? i thought nvidia?
[23:51] <valentin__> graingert:  wireing is not possible
[23:51] <graingert> valentin__-> how so?
[23:51] <Esvandiary> ok eTranquility, my suspicion is that both 1.5 and 1.6 are somehow installed
[23:51] <valentin__> graingert:  that doesnt matter :-)
[23:51] <graingert> valentin__-> ethernet over power is a good idea; unless you are stealing wifi
[23:51] <eTranquility> Esvandiary: So uninstall 1.5?
[23:51] <jklock> Chotaz: ive been reading through this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012&highlight=usb+headphones it might be good for future learning, also is useful to you right now.
[23:52] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: type "sudo update-alternatives --list java"
[23:52] <valentin__> graingert:  interesting idea .. over power .. but expensive
[23:52] <graingert> valentin__-> not too much methinks...
[23:52] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: that should give you a list of all programs with the name "java" (only one of which can be the "main" one at a time)
[23:52] <graingert> valentin__-> just two addaptors, no?
[23:52] <jklock> Chotaz: from what I am reading you will have to work a little with pulseaudio
[23:52] <gerzel> Q: Does anyone know how the creative X-Fi drivers for linux are coming along?  Eta any info ect?
[23:52] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: hopefully 1.6 should be in that list, but I assume it isn't the main one
[23:52] <b419kid> Hello, can any one tell me a program that i can use on ubuntu 8.10 to control a windows xp computer (remote control desktop)?
[23:52] <remoteCTRL> toni_m: keep it in the main channel please so that others can also learn
[23:53] <ChotaZ> jklock: where's pulseaudio and how can I work with it?
[23:53] <valentin__> graingert:  as i own a wifi card and it is installed ... so why not use this one
[23:53] <remoteCTRL> toni_m: ok first thing we need to do is find out what resolutions that card supports
[23:53] <eTranquility> Esvandiary: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139255/
[23:53] <remoteCTRL> toni_m: gimme a sec please
[23:53] <jklock> Chotaz: I am working on directions for you as I figure them out :)
[23:53] <ChotaZ> jklock: oh k thanks
[23:53] <b419kid> Hello, can any one tell me a program that i can use on ubuntu 8.10 to control a windows xp computer (remote control desktop)?
[23:53] <graingert> valentin__-> just wifi is not very, reliable - servers are required for reliability :-p
[23:53] <toni_m> ill give you 2 :)
[23:54] <graingert> b419kid-> rdesktop
[23:54] <Esvandiary> ouch, both GCJ and OpenJDK... right
[23:54] <graingert> b419kid-> vnc, vinagre etc
[23:54] <valentin__> graingert:  its my livingroom server :_)
[23:54] <graingert> b419kid-> loads of 'em
[23:54] <b419kid> graingert: redesktop, (sudo apt-get install rdesktop) ?
[23:54] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: first off let's get rid of OpenJDK, if this is for a school/uni assignment they'll probably want the Sun JDK/JRE
[23:54] <graingert> b419kid-> pretty much
[23:54] <|PaperTiger|> How do I install ATi Catalyst Control Centre?
[23:54] <graingert> b419kid-> they are 10 a penny
[23:54] <b419kid> graingert: what do i need to install on that windows xp computer?
[23:54] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: run "sudo apt-get remove openjdk-*"
[23:55] <remoteCTRL> toni_m: i got this for you: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/screen-resolution-too-low-713481/
[23:55] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: that should get rid of anything OpenJDK-related
[23:55] <graingert> b419kid-> it should all be there, you just need to enable it
[23:55] <b419kid> graingert: 10 a penny what does that mean?
[23:55] <toni_m> remoteCTRL: ill check it a sec
[23:55] <remoteCTRL> toni_m: sure
[23:55] <eTranquility> Esvandiary: I'm sure I just got a little install happy one day, lol, OpenJDK shouldn't be there. xD
[23:55] <graingert> b419kid-> luck foads of them
[23:55] <amadeus> I think I have messed up my apt stuff, I chrooted ubuntu from another disto and didn't mount proc dev and sys, so things are uninstalling right, how do I repair this?
[23:55] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: then run "sudo apt-get remove gcj-*"
[23:55] <jklock> Chotaz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=997506
[23:55] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: that should leave you with just the Sun JDK and hopefully just the Sun JRE too
[23:55] <jklock> Chotaz: should solve your problems
[23:56] <b419kid> graingert: i don't understand
[23:56] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: it's possible that it won't automatically put the Sun JDK/JRE back as the main ones though, so we might have to do that manually
[23:56] <graingert> b419kid-> lots
[23:56] <graingert> b419kid-> it means lots
[23:56] <ChotaZ> jklock: ill follow it stepbystep and will report results later, brb
[23:56] <b419kid> graingert: lots what? (type "b419kid: messagehere" to send a message to me
[23:56] <remoteCTRL> toni_m: see that line with Modes "1024x768" in it? you can change that to for example: Modes "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
[23:56] <jklock> Chotaz: okay
[23:57] <graingert> b419kid-> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsXp/using/mobility/getstarted/Remoteintro.mspx
[23:57] <riwa> Some keys on my keyboard require a space or a letter to print. How can I change that? I just want it to print the naked char.
[23:57] <graingert> b419kid-> 10 a penny means lots
[23:57] <eTranquility> Esvandiary: I see 1.6 in Eclipse's JREs now, does that mean it's set?
[23:57] <remoteCTRL> toni_m: after that you need tor estart your x-server by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace, and after that you should be able to pick other resolutions from within the resolution menu
[23:57] <riwa> examples are: ^" and `
[23:57] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: in that case it's probably fine; just to make sure, run "java -version"
[23:58] <amadeus> I did a full system update with apt-get update but since the /proc/ /sys/ and /dev/ we not mounted It couldn't write to /var/cache/apt
[23:58] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: as long as it's 1.6.something and doesn't mention OpenJDK or something, you're fine :P
[23:58] <ChotaZ> jklock: from all the packages listed, i marked then some for isntallation and the ones i already had for reinstallation, just to make sure.
[23:58] <amadeus> i'm using Hardy
[23:58] <jklock> Chotaz: thats fine.
[23:58] <eTranquility> Esvandiary: Thanks mate, I guess I'm all set to go then. =D
[23:58] <remoteCTRL> is there something like a systemwide equalizer? i am getting way to much bass here
[23:58] <chrome_> 1321 people wow
[23:58] <Esvandiary> eTranquility: good luck with the project :)
[23:58] <chrome_> never see so many users in a single channel
[23:59] <Esvandiary> chrome_: tell me about it, irssi listed them all when I joined O_O
[23:59] <remoteCTRL> exept for enemyterritory channel in quakenet but that would be offtopic then...
[23:59] <chrome_> Esvandiary: :P
[23:59] <carlos_> hello i want help please, i have kubuntu but i restarted and now, i have gnome version. whats happened? i guess is compiz