[02:45] Hello everyone I am having some trouble... http://paste.ubuntu.com/138671/ is the error message... it was working fine yesterday and the only thing that has changed since then is that i turned off the computer [02:46] i've googled but found no solution [02:56] Brad777: what kind of video card? [02:57] n2diy, NVIDIA9800GTX+ Superclocked edition [02:57] using the 180.2x driver [02:58] Brad777: I suspected a Nvidia, have you googled the card and Ubuntu? Or maybe someone in #ubuntu could help? GL [03:03] n2diy, well i was confused because i've never had trouble b4 [04:31] I feel xfce4-panel is really frustrating to work with. I would like to create a launcher, and the be able to move that launcher where ever I want to. I find I am unable to do that, is there another where to add items to the panel? [04:39] hello [04:39] saluton [04:40] hallo [04:40] moin moin [04:40] hola [04:40] how are is everyone? [04:40] kiel vi fartas? [04:40] was ist los? [04:41] saluton [04:42] cxu vi spektas la esperantan lingvon? forces [04:42] xD [04:42] hola [04:42] español mjor [04:42] mejor* [04:42] you majored in espanol ? [04:46] rocko, habla español o ingles [04:47] I do not speak Spanish forces [04:48] just English and Esperanto [04:48] english [04:49] in English we capitalized specific things [04:50] also entire acronyms [04:50] like GNU, LASER, FBI....etc [04:50] im an english learning [04:50] and i always practice my english here [04:52] I see interesting forces [04:53] I am learning English. [04:53] would be the correct way to say it [04:55] :P [05:06] where you from forces ? [05:20] rocko, El Salvador [05:20] o [05:20] I see [05:21] where is that ? [05:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Salvador [05:22] cool stuff [05:22] so how is the weather there? [05:22] forces ^ [05:24] http://www.newint.org/features/2005/12/01/el-salvador-guerilla.jpg [05:24] crazy stuff [05:25] http://www.newint.org/features/2005/12/01/el-salvador-guerilla.jpg [05:25] whoops [05:25] A young guerilla cradles her automatic rifle a year before the end of El Salvador’s civil war in 1992. Photo: Martin Adler / Panos Pictures Photo: Martin Adler / Panos Pictures [06:44] hey, I just installed xubuntu, how do I make it where I don't have to login on startup? [06:46] linux, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221302 [06:46] btw, your nick is not very suitable for newbie [06:57] xubuntu 9.04 beta is now avaible [06:57] you can testing if you want [06:57] you can help and report bugs [08:19] hi all [08:20] just a newie here, installed xubuntu, looks nice, seem to find my way around ok..just finding it weird that my Ethernet doesn't seem to work properly. It's just a Marvell Yukon, nothing special. Any ideas? [08:23] somebody here? [08:23] dingding: not here [08:23] dingding: don't start again [08:23] dingding: you're using ubuntu - this is for xubuntu support [08:23] im not starting again === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [14:41] hi all - is there anyone here who used to be a sole gnome user who switched to xubuntu - i am interested to know any things that annoyed you and things that pleased you and generally your thoughts [14:48] windowmaker users don't count? :) [14:48] and what about fvwm users? [14:48] thesheep: is that directed to me? [14:49] steveccc, I use gnome on my desktop and xfce on my laptop. XFCE just seems to be a little.. I dunno.. cleaner [14:50] and I'm loving the xubuntu login screen in 9.04 beta [14:50] i just wondered if it was a little raw and unpolished. I havent used it for years but do fancy putting it on my laptop for sheer speed but thats why i was asking others opinions [14:50] xfce needs a better menu editor [14:50] kahrn: is the look and feel much different in 9.04 [14:51] hmm [14:51] not amazingly different, but the login screen is [14:52] That "cleaner" thing is exactly what I feel :) [14:52] menu editor is coming in Xfce 4.8 [14:52] \o/ [14:52] also, I don't use xubuntu for speed [14:53] I'm running a pentium M with 1.4ghz or so of power, but the differences between gnome and xfce tend to be negligible once you have all the services you require running, etc [14:53] See http://gezeiten.org/post/2009/03/libxfce4menu-to-to-be-renamed-to-gdesktopmenu as for the menu editor :) [14:55] hi - I don't have xubuntu in front of me but need to help someone on the phone. [14:55] How can I change the keyboardlayout in xubuntu 8.10 [14:56] %alsa [14:56] !alsa [14:56] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [14:56] tomsdale, it should be in the settings manager [14:57] tomsdale, in the Settings Manager, click "Keyboard", then the Layouts tab [14:57] any clue how can i setup my mic in xubuntu 8.10? [14:58] speaking of keyboards, does xubuntu still support the FN key for laptops? [14:58] in ubuntu i have pulseaudio [14:58] c'est beau [14:58] J_Litewski, last time I checked it did :) [14:58] thx, J_Litewski, vinnl. she found it. [14:58] Which was with the next version that is yet to be released :P [14:58] hmmm, it seems that it it doesn't work for the xfce-mixer then [14:59] sdf2, I believe you can use Pulseaudio in Xubuntu as well [14:59] !pulseaudio [14:59] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [14:59] nor the brightness setings [14:59] i don't wanna use it [14:59] J_Litewski, well, it did for me... Which version are you using? [14:59] i wanna use simple alsa in xubuntu [14:59] right now, 9.04 Beta [14:59] since 8.10 had some stability issues with my laptop [15:00] Well, that one should definitely support it [15:00] no go here then [15:00] :( [15:00] filing a bug report [15:01] in alsamixer i set everyting to max in the capture tab [15:01] and the audio recorder still doesn't recognize my mic [15:01] also, when did launchpad bugs become private only? [15:01] !mic [15:01] Sorry, I don't know anything about mic [15:01] i filed a bug yesterday about the gnmoe-app-install bug, and it got linked to a bug i can't view [15:02] *gnome-app-install [15:02] sdf2: Make sure the mic is turned on and the volume is turned up for it in the volume control. [15:03] J_Litewski: when they are filed with apport [15:03] ah [15:03] Until a member of bugcontrol or apport team releases it [15:03] i turned on my mic, and set everything to max in the alsamixer for capture [15:07] can i set somehow whats my default device [15:07] for capture and for playback [15:07] like in gnome? [15:16] how do I activate desktop effects with xubuntu? [15:17] jatt, you mean the desktop effects that come with Xfce or those you also see in Ubuntu? [15:18] compiz will work in xubuntu? [15:18] like compiz in gnome [15:18] does xfce has new desktop effects? [15:18] have [15:18] dingding, yes it will [15:18] how do I activate it? [15:18] jatt, yeah, a little more limited than Compiz but more stable [15:18] whats a CIDSupplement? [15:19] in gnome you can select advanced desktop effects [15:19] jatt, you can enable Xfce's effects under "Window Manager Tweaks" in the settings manager, "enable compositing or something" [15:19] ok I see [15:19] jatt, for Compiz, I wrote a blog post on that, wait a sec [15:19] (It happens to be the first result when you Google for "xubuntu compiz", btw :P) [15:19] compositor [15:19] they should call it compiz :) [15:20] Here, shameless plug: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ [15:20] jatt, yeah that would _not_ be confusing :P [15:20] ok thanks [15:20] I will read it [15:50] re [15:50] mic is still not working any tisp? [15:50] *tips? [15:51] common sense question, is it plugged into the mic port? [15:56] i can't test to see if I get the same problem sdf2, my laptop doesn't have a built in mic [16:06] its not a laptop [16:06] its my desktop pc [16:06] its plugged in my soundcard [16:06] and i can hear myself if i turn up amic [16:06] i managed to make it work with ubuntu [16:07] i use alsa now instead of pulseaudio [16:07] i had pulseaudio when i had ubuntu installed [16:07] i don't wanna install pulseaudio back [16:07] is there a way i can set the default capturing device? [16:08] yes, each application has a setting for it [16:09] !alsa [16:09] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [16:09] change device(alsa mixer) [16:09] where can i find it in xfce? [16:09] or in terminal? [16:10] xfce doesn't have it [16:10] it doesn't do "one to rule them all" sound system, each application does it by itself [16:11] aham [16:11] i just opened up gnome-sound recorder [16:11] which is installed basically [16:11] i set capture to mic [16:11] and it doesn't recognize any voice [16:12] well, gnome-sound-recorder will use the gnome settings, obviously [16:12] i just installed xubuntu [16:13] sdf2: the xfce4-mixer doesn't show the mike as muted? [16:13] xubuntu change resolution monitor [16:14] i would put 1024x768 but is not available [16:14] xubuntu doesn't have a resolution monitor, and there are no plans to change it [16:14] no, wait [16:15] TheSheep: xfce4-mixer shows no mute? [16:15] i just see the sliders [16:15] sdf2: and they are not at the bottom for the mike? [16:15] nop [16:15] i made it to the max [16:15] sdf2: if you go to options, does it show more than one device? [16:16] file->options [16:16] TheSheep: i set pcm to max, now mic is recognizing, but its capturing my output sound [16:17] sdf2: set mic boost to something higher [16:17] sdf2: also, make sure to select the microphone in the 'input source' [16:17] you can enable that control in options if it's not displayed [16:18] i selected mci1 in xfce4-mixer [16:18] it was on mic1 in gnomemixer too with this pc [16:18] in gnome recorder i set it to microphone [16:18] the input [16:18] but its recording the video i play [16:18] i turned on mic boost [16:18] same [16:19] maybe try alsamixer in terminal :/ [16:19] it might show more controls [16:19] the first was i tried [16:19] i try again [16:19] btw what is PCM? [16:20] sdf2: the main output channel [16:20] if its at max it records my output otherwise nothing :S [16:20] it looks like no mic is the default for capture [16:21] it looks to me more like the mic is working, just very quiet [16:21] so you don't hear it until you make output very loud [16:21] your microphone doesn't have any mute buttons? [16:21] nop [16:22] when i play a video [16:22] soung recorder records the video's sound [16:22] hmm.. are the otehr options in the xfce4-mixer's 'input' control? [16:23] what should i look for? [16:23] mic2 or anything, really -- it may be misnamed [16:23] the drivers sometimes guess channe lnames wrong [16:24] if i set to mic1 [16:24] and i slide amic to max [16:24] i can hear myself [16:24] in the speakers [16:25] mestmagaer: probably your monitor is not detected properly. Try setting horizontal and vertical refresh rates in your xorg.conf [16:26] mi xorg is this [16:26] if i slide down PCM [16:26] mestmagaer: please don't paste to the channel [16:26] Section "Device" [16:26] Identifier "Configured Video Device" [16:26] its still recording from my output [16:26] EndSection [16:26] Section "Monitor" [16:26] Identifier "Configured Monitor" [16:26] EndSection [16:27] somehow in the recorder program, even if i set it to mic, it still uses my pcm [16:28] I really don't know the gnome-sound-recorder [16:28] anyhow i set it [16:28] it still uses pcm for input [16:28] i tried every 20 option [16:28] for input device [16:29] and the lol is, i muted everything in alsamixer for capture [16:29] but not my mic [16:31] lol [16:31] now it says audio capture settings are invalid [16:32] something died cause it doesn't even recognize my output for capture [16:32] there is no 'sound daemon' or anything [16:32] maybe some program is holding onto the device now? [16:33] emm i turned pcm to top now its same again [16:33] like i turn down pcm [16:33] it can't record [16:33] if its up [16:33] it records from pcm [16:33] madness [16:33] lmao [16:34] i recorded some sound xD [16:34] how? [16:34] madness [16:34] i set analog mixer to max [16:34] so it confused channel names [16:34] i know it must be max like with my previous linux isntall... [16:34] but [16:34] when i opened xfce4-columecontrol thing [16:35] it was on mute [16:35] -.-' [16:35] i set it to max in alsamixer [16:35] now i'm confused [16:35] if i set sound recorder to master [16:35] it still records from mic [16:35] :D [16:35] crazy [16:36] now i turned down analog mixer in alsamixer [16:36] for playback [16:37] and its still working oO [16:37] nor anymore [16:37] *t [16:38] j/ #xubuntu offtopic [16:38] its bad again cry... [16:38] UKGent: with a dash and without the space in front [16:39] oh and it's /j [16:39] linux need newbies like me too... [16:39] sdf2: linux needs newbies teh most [16:39] or it never going to be used by more people [16:39] yup [16:39] its really annoying, that its bad again :S [16:39] lmao you must think I am a right 'dumbass' I like to say 'absent minded professor' ... [16:40] UKGent: nah, I make typos all the time [16:40] * charlie-tca thinks more like "Got to do it right! even when it's wrong" [16:40] TheSheep You are being too kind... [16:41] You're still not in -offtopic ;-) [16:41] Roll of drumbs - to be fair - I am working in another workspace on something else as well lol [16:42] if i set recorder to microphone its not recording [16:42] if i set to master [16:42] its recording [16:43] sdf2: don't pay attention to the names, they are wrong obviously [16:43] yes [16:43] sdf2: just find a combination that works [16:43] that was my only problem... [16:43] i set everything correctly and ... [16:43] going nuts again cause just this little missnamed thing [16:44] include the make and model of your sound card in teh bug report [16:44] where can i do this bugreport? [16:44] !bugs [16:44] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [16:44] i should check the channel's topic [16:45] unfortunately you have to register :( [16:45] i hate that i have to register everywhere :P [16:46] yeah [16:46] but some bots can kill a forum/site in a sec [16:46] Launchpad needs to become an OpenID client as well :) [16:48] It is, isn't it. It used the same name and password for me as the wikis [16:48] It's only a provider, AFAIK [16:48] And the wiki is a client, I believe [16:48] Thought it might be the case that it only allows LP-OpenID's [16:48] Weird. [16:49] emm [16:49] I am making the first tentative steps towards daring to open a terminal and have a 'bash' at 'BASH' So if I disappear for a few days... the worst has happened! [16:49] no bug [16:49] it was some glitch i think [16:49] now its working with mic set for capture [16:49] funny [16:50] i go do a restart and start reading the biblic [16:50] :) [16:51] Anyone in here using Maple 11 for linux? [16:53] Slonkie not for Linux - I do have a Windows Maple 10 but have not used it for ages. Maple is a big bloated Application IMHO but with a powerful Math Engine [16:53] yeah well, as you mentioned it's a powerful math engine and we use it at my school [16:54] but when i'm installing it, it dosn't show up in the applications :/ [16:55] Slonkie - well I am a Linux rookie but I know that applications like that often don't show up on the Menus [16:55] i rebooted my system [16:55] Linux seems to be able to put stuff just about anywhere [16:55] now it says audio capture devices are invalid [16:55] -.-' [16:55] Then i looked trough the maple folder i installed in, and i chouldn't find how to run the application.. [16:55] and mic is bad again [16:56] Ask TheSheep He knows everything ! [16:56] can u try, and not be a kid? [16:56] UKGent, it depends... When an application provides an installer for Ubuntu and Xubuntu and the likes (i.e. a file that ends in .deb), it will get a menu entry just fine [16:56] this is a .bin [16:57] vinnl Thanks - yes. It depends on the installer as you say [16:58] Slonkie, then you can blame the application creator for not creating a menu file for the application ;-) [16:58] Some downloads come in these Tarball archive things don't they? They seem to get auto extracted and then you can often just click the exec [16:58] Well, yeah, some do, but that's kind of bad practice [16:58] now this is crazy, mic isn't working again... [16:58] But i should be able to use it even tho it doesn't create a menu entry ;) [16:58] every setup i made disappeared... [16:59] On the other hand, if you want to support many different Linux distributions, creating an appropriate package for each is a lot of work [16:59] vinnl I am glad you said that because I intuitively thought that it is not good somehow [16:59] Slonkie, yes, of course... I don't really know the application so I don't really know where to look... Is it a free download? [16:59] No it's expensive :( [16:59] Well, then I can only suggest you try typing 'maple' in a terminal window [17:00] Maple is very expensive ! I know - I bought Maple 10 [17:00] I tried, diden't work :( [17:00] I'm glad my school is paying, UKGent :P [17:00] Slonkie, and if you type 'map', then press Tab, what do you see? [17:00] Slonkie - lucky you - can you not use Search to find the location ? [17:00] hmm i'm gonna try that, first i have to install it agian :) [17:01] is there anyway i can save my alsamixer config? [17:01] or where does xubuntu store it? [17:01] Slonkie, or perhaps 'xmaple', as this page mentions: http://wiki.netbsd.se/How_to_run_Maple_on_NetBSD/i386 [17:02] Ah, Slonkie, did you pick a directory to install Maple in? [17:02] vinnl would it not usually put it in the bin directory ? [17:02] Yes, vinnl. [17:02] Slonkie, then there's a folder named 'bin' inside, that contains a maple or xmaple file, which you can double-click to run it [17:03] UKGent, all depends on the developer, but apparently Maple's did so ;-) [17:05] heh i tried that vinnl.. maple doesn't start [17:06] Slonkie, both maple and xmaple? [17:06] oh now it works [17:06] Ah good :) [17:06] xmaple did the trick, thanks vinnl :) [17:06] yw :) [17:07] vinnl so if you get a choice of installation downloads - it is best to choose the Deb one ? [17:07] UKGent, yep, always [17:07] In fact, usually when a .deb is not available, I don't install it [17:08] UKGent, by the way, when you install files using the "Add/Remove..." or "Synaptic Package Manager" options from the menu, that's also fine (it downloads and installs .deb files in the background) [17:09] In fact, that's the best option because those .deb files are provided by the Ubuntu developers and thus checked for not being malicious and for adhering to such things as providing menu files ;-) [17:10] Would i be able to add Maple to the Office menu in the Applications menu? [17:10] vinnl and is it best to use the terminal to install a freshly downloaded deb application ? If the Add/Remove or Synaptic do not list it ? [17:10] Slonkie, you can, wait a sec [17:10] UKGent, well, you can install a downloaded deb application by just double-clicking on it ;-). If Add/Remove or Synaptic doesn't list it or the version provided there is too old, you can do that [17:11] vinnl shows how much I know - I was doing the opposite and avoiding debian - the name has such a legendary (Robin Hood) reputation lol [17:12] Haha, well, Xubuntu is based on Ubuntu which is based on Debian, so... ;-) [17:12] Though you should take care to download .deb packages made for Ubuntu [17:12] (Or Xubuntu, of course) [17:12] vinnl I was messing around with RPM (which I really don't understand) or Tarballs, which I sort of partially understand ... [17:14] UKGent, .rpm's are what distributions like Fedora use instead of .deb files, tarballs are just archives (like .zip's, e.g.) that often contain the source-code or distribution-independent (but unintegrated) executable files) [17:14] *-) [17:14] Slonkie, what's the folder the xmaple file is in? [17:14] vinnl so it is just like Windows exec files - you just have to ask yourself 'do I trust the originator of this application' before double clicking ? [17:14] UKGent, yes [17:15] (And yeah, it's a complicated story, but that's the way it is...) === forces is now known as crauser [17:16] vinnl thanks for explaining all of that - it is confusing for 'newbies' because you get the impression that most apps are delivered via archive files and that there will always be an exec to click onto, to activate the installation [17:17] /root/maple11/bin/ vinnl :) [17:17] UKGent, yeah well, the main confusion stems from the fact that in Windows, you download files and execute them, while in Xubuntu, you mostly install stuff from the Add/Remove... application [17:17] which is even easier than in windows! [17:18] too many people thinks the opposite [17:18] Yeah it is, and you even get automatic updates :) [17:18] vinnl So you are better off learning about configuring your repositories and mirrors , rather than messing around with 'one off' downloads via websites ? [17:18] Slonkie, ehm... I created a menu file for you, shall I explain where to save it or do you just want a command that saves it to the right location? ;-) [17:19] vinnl that is, if you are interested in an app that is not in the main (default) lists [17:19] UKGent, well, if you run Xubuntu, most application you'll want are available with the default repositories, so there's most of the time not even a need to configure that [17:19] Well i guess you chould just tell me where to put it [17:19] UKGent, yep [17:19] Slonkie, OK, wait, I'll upload it somewhere [17:20] Slonkie, OK, this is it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139090/plain/ [17:20] Cool [17:20] Slonkie, you'll want to save that to .local/share/applications in your home directory [17:21] with what name? [17:21]