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guestfrogonwheels: thanks00:00
frogonwheelsguest did you work it out?00:01
frogonwheelsphoenixz_  Possibly not then.  I've got 4.2 on 8.10, following the instructions.  don't know if it applies to 9.0400:02
guestfrogonwheels: nope I thought it was 4.2 its only 4.0 im gonna upgrade and go from there00:02
babylonsfuryback from work, still no usb :(00:02
frogonwheelsguest cool.00:03
Cycomok, is there any proto that is supported by kaffeine, dragonplayer, etc. etc. that allows me to play files on a remote network share?00:05
Cycomwhere I can just click a file and have it play, without transferring the entire thing to the local drive's /tmp?00:06
kaddiit's just a wild guess but shouldn't vlc that?00:06
Cycomkaddi: nope. copies the file instead.00:07
babylonsfuryif you're using intrepid and the last repository someone has for something is hardy00:17
babylonsfuryit should still work, right???00:18
cinexits possible babylonsfury00:18
cinexit might not though00:18
cinexdependacy prroblems00:18
cinexand if your using apt to install them, it might try to downgrade stuff - possibly00:18
bazhangvery risky using 3rd party repos; more so when they are different versions00:18
cinexbut for the odd .deb file its usually ok.00:19
babylonsfurycool, trying to get my usb to work00:19
devilsadvocatebabylonsfury, usb?00:20
babylonsfurynot working, at all00:20
babylonsfurynot the mouse, not the keyboard00:21
babylonsfurynot the sound, not the printer, nothing00:21
babylonsfurytried them all at once, and tried everything but the printer solo00:21
devilsadvocatewhich repo are you talking about?00:21
bazhangis this a usb hub? or bluetooth?00:21
babylonsfurypure usb, off the back ports of the computer00:22
cinexshouldn't usb ports 'just work'00:25
bazhangdont know how a repo will fix that00:25
babylonsfurythey do work in grub00:25
babylonsfurybut the second the kernel loads00:25
babylonsfuryits gone00:25
babylonsfuryno repo was to fix my printer driver00:26
bazhangwireless keyboard? bluetooth?00:26
babylonsfurysomeone made an open source printer driver, but last repo they have is hardy00:26
babylonsfuryits a normal, plug in, usb keyboard00:26
babylonsfuryand normal plug it in, usb mouse00:26
babylonsfuryusb headset, and usb printer00:27
babylonsfurythe ports themselves, are dead, no power00:27
bazhangsounds like a bad port00:27
babylonsfurynope00:27
babylonsfuryworks fine off of a jaunty live cd00:27
babylonsfuryjaunty live cd? usb works like a charm00:27
babylonsfuryswitch back to my intrepid install, gone00:27
babylonsfuryand it worked in XP and vista :(00:27
babylonsfuryits just intrepid that it's shot in, and not sure why00:27
gimoxinstalling kubuntu beta...00:28
babylonsfurytried the intrepid live cd, and its just as bad00:28
gimoxsee you later :P00:28
babylonsfuryjust to make sure I didn't bork my own install lol00:29
pablinhi guys00:29
babylonsfuryso currently running just keyboard, no mouse00:30
pablini have a problem with my bluetooth00:30
babylonsfuryI had an old serial (RS232) keyboard00:30
babylonsfuryand I have an rs232 port, no PS/2 ports though :(00:31
babylonsfuryI have a serial, rs 232 mouse too, but only one port, figured I was better off with the keyboard than mouse!00:31
pablinsome body help me please00:31
babylonsfurybut I have 0 understanding of the linux usb controllers00:32
babylonsfurywhat package controls the usb in kubuntu?00:33
babylonsfuryor is that part of the kernel? if its just a package, can I update just that one, to the current jaunty package, which does work?00:34
yowshiok why does my taskbar manager thing keep glitching??? grrr this is annoying i keep having to kill and then restart plasma00:34
Dragnslcryowshi- what version of KDE?00:35
babylonsfuryany ubuntu guru's out there know?00:35
yowshiDragnslcr: not entirely sure how do i cjeck?00:36
yowshicheck00:36
DragnslcrHelp -> About KDE in any KDE4 apps (Konversation isn't)00:37
yowshiDragnslcr: but considering that i have only been using kde for a month or so i would say the latest version you can get on a 64bit system00:37
DragnslcrK Menu -> Help will open up the system help, then Help -> About KDE there00:37
yowshii dont use konversation i use pidgin00:37
yowshi4.2.0000:38
DragnslcrI dunno then. I haven't had plasma crash on me in 4.200:40
yowshithe glitch doesnt start out that major just lines over the window titles but i have seen it alot and it progresses to the point where the window i click on isnt the window that winds up selected00:40
yowshithen i have to kill plasma and restart it to get it to function right00:40
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Odd-rationalehello! does kubuntu have an usb-creator on the livecd? if not, can i simply apt-get install usb-creator? and will this usb-creator create an Ubuntu usb, or a Kubuntu usb? Thanks so much!00:58
Cycomsupposedly you can set up kmplayer to use the xine backend.   how would I go about doing this? I have xine installed, but as far as I can tell, the only options are phonom and mplayer01:04
devilsadvocatebabylonsfury, it should be in the kernel01:06
PollywogKonqueror in Hardy crashes when I move files between directories (sometimes) but there do not seem to be any -dbg packages for it.  Does this mean I cannot submit some debug info?01:09
Elonehi how do i know what is the problem ?  sometimes my laptop won't wake up after suspend on RAM.01:12
PollywogElone: I have the same problem, the hardware is just not fully compatible with Linux01:13
ElonePollywog, >.< no fix for that?01:13
PollywogElone: you could Google for your laptop model and possibly find one01:14
Pollywogor check the forums01:14
Pollywogubuntuforums01:14
ElonePollywog, no luck on that01:15
kalidarhey guys ok so i got enemy terratory instaled on my kde 4.1 on ubuntu 8.10 intell duo core, i have to use metacity --replace everytime i want to play the game but even still i cannot hear any sound01:19
kalidari was wondreing if perhaps someone could help me make sound work01:19
kalidarhow do i find out what my sound is so i can echo it perhaps that would work01:20
ubuntu_quick question, I'm thinking of coming over to kde from gnome....Is installing programs as easy...like does it use sypantic?01:21
ubuntu_and updating aswell?01:21
DragnslcrYou can use Synaptic if you want01:21
DragnslcrThe default package manager for KDE is Adept01:22
ubuntu_As cool01:22
ubuntu_Ah*01:22
DragnslcrWell, I should say Kubuntu01:22
andrew__are ubuntu questions fair game here, or should i switch to a different channeL/01:22
DragnslcrYou'd probably have better luck in #ubuntu01:23
andrew__okay, thanks01:23
kalidaralidar> hey guys ok so i got enemy terratory instaled on my kde 4.1 on ubuntu 8.10 intell duo core, i have to use metacity --replace everytime i want to play the game but even still i cannot hear any sound01:23
kalidar<kalidar> i was wondreing if perhaps someone could help me make sound work01:23
Rieshandrew__: depends on how gnome specific your question is01:23
wotananybody knows how to use strigi through krunner?01:23
ubuntu_Personal opinon. Do you think that, that Kubuntu is more powerful than Ubuntu.? Basically I have a extremly powerful computer....Wasn't inpressed on how fast ubuntu was with it. So was thinking it could be the wiondows manager. Do you think it would be faster KDE that is....I know you can't say for sure and that its an opinon. Thast all im really asking for.01:23
DragnslcrI wouldn't expect KDE to run much faster or slower than Gnome01:25
kalidari personaly i think if you want looks go for kde if you want preformance go gnome01:25
kalidargnome is more stable than kde in my opinion01:25
kalidarbut kde looks alot nicer01:25
ubuntu_kde is alot different lol01:25
DragnslcrIf you have a computer that's only a year or two old, it should handle KDE and Gnome fine01:25
ubuntu_its 4 days old01:25
ubuntu_lol01:25
kalidaralidar> hey guys ok so i got enemy terratory instaled on my kde 4.1 on ubuntu 8.10 intell duo core, i have to use metacity --replace everytime i want to play the game but even still i cannot hear any sound01:25
kalidar<kalidar> i was wondreing if perhaps someone could help me make sound work01:25
DragnslcrIf you're having performance problems, it's probably because of something else01:26
PollywogI find that KDE is more configurable, but Gnome crashes less01:26
kalidarwhats the other enviroment called? i cant rember xsomething01:26
kalidarxice or osmething01:26
ubuntu_i just built it. phenom II 940 Quad Black / 8gig Ram01:26
PollywogI can get KDE pretty much like I want it01:26
Pollywogxfce01:26
kalidarif your using a beast computer like that you should be using windows01:26
kalidarits wasted on linux01:27
kalidarjust a heads up01:27
ubuntu_Really?01:27
kalidarwell what are you gona use al that computeing power on linux for?01:27
kalidarnot like you do anything hardcore with linux that requires that kinda hardware01:27
kalidarlinux can run on the crappyest computer in the world ;)01:27
ubuntu_so can windows....01:28
kalidaryou can run linux off a flashdrive lol01:28
kalidarnot rly01:28
kalidaryou try to install vista on a computer more than 2 yrs old01:28
kalidarand see what happens ;)01:28
ubuntu_Are you saying that *Unix don't reconize that much speed?01:28
kalidarnono01:28
kalidarunix does01:28
ubuntu_I have Vista on now.01:28
ubuntu_how about Linux01:28
ubuntu_lol01:28
kalidarits just that i mean that kinda power is only realy good for runing many programs that require alot of system resources01:29
kalidarnothing on linux requires much power01:29
kalidarand not like u can play games or anything01:29
Rieshkalidar: saying because he has a beast of a computer he should use windows is not good advice, imho.01:29
ubuntu_I got it cuase its cheap now....And video encoding Does take alot of resource.01:29
kalidarwhy not riesh?01:29
kalidarjust friendly advice01:29
Rieshkalidar: why yes ? ...01:29
kalidarwell its true tho? linux dosent need anything to run01:30
ubuntu_I will say that Vista is very very fast on this box.01:30
kalidarso hes computer power is just not being utalized01:30
kalidarrite?01:30
ubuntu_But I honestly don't like windows...01:30
kalidari hate windows01:30
ubuntu_And i noticed a performace decrease in gnome.01:30
kalidarbut with that much power lol maby windows would be wicked01:30
ubuntu_i built it for just under $70001:31
kalidargnome is a resource hog but its way more stable than kde01:31
ubuntu_its cheap these days..01:31
kalidaratleast for me anyway01:31
kalidarnot bad01:31
Rieshkalidar: because he might use this power after all ... when editing movies or so ... or using virtualbox ... or etc etc ... there are enough situations where a awfull lot of power is handy ..01:31
kalidartrue i dident think of that01:31
ubuntu_my main thing i do in internet., web programing and Video encoding01:32
ubuntu_and i have encoding going all the time.01:32
kalidarnice ;)01:32
ubuntu_thats main reason for horse power.01:32
RieshSo ... yes .. then the more pwoer and more ram is better01:32
Rieshpower*01:32
ubuntu_nothing worse than hittin FF and it taking 10 seconds to load lol01:32
kalidaryeah riesh is rite i never thought of that01:32
kalidarim still relitivly new to linux compaird to hem lol01:33
ubuntu_now i can encode and do whatever i want. its like its not encoding01:33
kalidari would take hes word over mine anyday01:33
ubuntu_and it cut 2  hours off time.01:33
josh-lhow can i reset my sound card? something happened i dont have sound01:33
Rieshubuntu_: Nice :-)01:33
ubuntu_im just trying to get opinions lol01:33
kalidarjosh if you figure that one out leme know too01:33
kalidari nee to figure out how to get sound to work with ET01:33
Rieshubuntu_: kde should be no problem on your system  :-)01:34
kalidarriesh does Xfice require a better system?01:34
kalidaror better knolidge of unix01:34
Rieshxfce ?01:34
kalidarthe other desktop01:34
kalidartheirs 3 gnome kde and another one starts with x01:34
Pollywogxfce401:34
kalidaryeah that one01:34
kalidaryou dont hear much of xfce tho i wonder why?01:35
Rieshxubuntu01:35
kalidari want to try it is it any good guys?01:35
Pollywogisn't xubuntu based on xfce?01:35
ubuntu_i think xfce requires less.01:35
Rieshdon't know :-) ... never tried it ... is is a smalelr and faster as gnome and kde i think01:35
Pollywogyes it is smaller and faster than KDE and Gnome01:36
kalidarhmm im tempted to try it01:36
Pollywogruns on slow laptops01:36
RieshPollywog: yes it is01:36
kalidarbut il miss kde so much01:36
josh-lnm got it01:36
kalidarkde has alot of eyecandy XD01:36
ubuntu_Riesh: do you think that kde will perform better than gnome?01:36
josh-lkalidar: i just went to system settings, multimedia, sound, and changed the deferred device to pulseaudio01:36
kalidargnome should preforme better01:36
josh-lnope01:37
kalidarthanks josh01:37
Rieshubuntu_: no ... :-) ... but your computer won't have any problems with it ...01:37
kalidarill try that cuz for some reason my sound works fine untill i try to play enemy terratory01:37
ubuntu_Cool01:37
kalidari say go with kde :)01:38
kalidarwe need more kde users XD01:38
Rieshubuntu_: i think you can choose anything you want ...01:38
Pollywogkalidar: there is a fix for that01:38
kalidarpollly hit me ;)01:38
ubuntu_Is the latest coming out in April? like gnome?01:38
ubuntu_newer*01:38
gimoxeheh... here i am with kubuntu 9.04 beta :)01:38
gimoxsimply fantastic01:38
Rieshubuntu_: yes01:38
kalidargimox! how is it?01:38
Riesh:-)01:38
kalidarbetter than 8.10?01:38
ubuntu_Same as 8.10? Like look and feel?01:39
Rieshkalidar: it rockz :-P01:39
gimoxif you prefer kde 4 it's surely better01:39
gimoxkde 4.2.1 it's absolutely stable01:39
kalidarrealy! but because its beta wont it have alot of debuging stil let to do?01:39
PollywogIf you google enemy territory and sound in Google Linux, you can find the fix, it is just one line you put in /etc/init.d/bootmisc01:39
gimoxnot really... in ubuntu the beta release is just a bit less than official release01:39
gimoxfrom today to 27 april01:39
FACHFif you like it nice01:39
kalidarpolly could you plz send me a link ive ben lokin for that fix all day01:39
kalidari couldent find it01:39
gimoxubuntu devs will just correct documentations01:40
Pollywogk01:40
kalidarok so if i go get 9.2 beta of kubunut i can just upgrade from the update manager in apt-get rite?01:40
kalidarand thattle make it a full release?01:40
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Pollywogkalidar, see if this works:01:41
Pollywoghttp://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gaming-games-multimedia-entertainment/19228-sound-doesnt-work-enemy-territory.html01:41
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kalidarforget i asked that question lol god im stupid sometimes01:41
ahi01:41
Pollywogthe fix is the third post there01:41
kalidaryo polllly thanks alot for that man ;)01:41
Pollywogif it works, just put the line in your startup scripts01:42
kalidaryouve no idea how long i was lookin for that fix thismorning lol01:42
kalidarpre kde or just startup?01:42
fachfgnomehi a01:42
ahi01:42
Pollywogkalidar: the startup scripts in /etc/init.d01:42
PollywogI used /etc/init.d/bootmisc01:42
kalidaractualy i have another problem sence you bring up startup scripts polly01:43
* Riesh got a message his new kernel image asks for a reboot ... brb01:43
Pollywogperhaps Ubuntu does not have bootmisc I do not recall01:43
Pollywogbut you can make your own script01:43
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kalidarpolly when i go into settings and click advanced and then click startup01:43
kalidara window comes up and i click startup script and in it i type metacity --replace01:43
ahello everyone01:43
kalidarbut it dosent do that when i load kde01:43
kalidarwhy??01:43
Pollywogkalidar do you want to change your window manager to metacity?01:44
kalidaryes01:44
kalidarforever01:44
Pollywogdo you want to change it for all users?01:44
kalidaryes forever!01:44
kalidarlol01:44
kalidari hate typeing metacity --replace all the time and then i gota reorganize my widgets and stuff01:45
kalidargrr01:45
Pollywoguse update-alternatives01:45
Pollywogman update-alternatives01:45
kalidarthats it?01:45
ubuntu_Ok everyone I guess I'm out for now.01:45
kalidarok ill type that01:45
Pollywogno you have to add some switches01:45
kalidarl8tr ubun01:45
kalidarluck bro01:45
Pollywoghold on01:45
ubuntu_I'm gong to hold off until final verion is released.01:45
kalidarok poly01:45
kalidaril wate for u01:46
kalidarubun01:46
ubuntu_Then I'll install and give it a try :)01:46
ubuntu_Thanks for ya'lls time01:46
kalidarwhat are u running rite now ubun01:46
ubuntu_vista right now.01:46
kalidarswitch rite now ;) trust me01:46
ubuntu_well tech01:46
ubuntu_KDE01:46
kalidaryoull want some practice01:46
ubuntu_im on the live cd01:46
kalidarbefor you instal your final system01:46
kalidari formated my linux like 4 times befor i knew what i was doing with it01:47
ubuntu_lol01:47
kalidarand i tryed every distrobution01:47
Pollywoghttp://www.debian-administration.org/articles/9101:47
ubuntu_I have been runing linux for about a year01:47
ubuntu_but only gnome01:47
kalidaraww ok01:47
Pollywogkalidar that is for you01:47
kalidartry kde its worth it01:47
Pollywog^^01:47
kalidarthanks pollywog il read it ;)01:47
fjallagyldirhej guy stuck in trouble with my wificard01:47
kalidarpolly im not using debian tho01:47
ubuntu_Ok later yal01:47
kalidarl8tr01:48
Pollywogkalidar: should work in Ubuntu01:48
Pollywoglike this update-alternatives --config x-window-manager01:49
kalidarok leme check can u stic around for a while i mite need you01:49
kalidarjust type that?01:49
Pollywogthen you choose the one you want01:49
Pollywogyes01:49
kalidarok il do it now01:49
Pollywogas root01:49
a<red>test</red>01:49
Pollywogor sudo01:49
kalidarsudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager?01:49
Pollywogyes01:49
kalidarthx01:49
fjallagyldircan anybody in her help me?01:50
Pollywogjust ask your question01:50
kalidaromg pollywog i could kis you01:50
Pollywogif someone knows01:50
Pollywogdid it work?01:50
kalidarive been tryin to figure this out for a while !! ok so it said permision denied01:50
kalidarhow do i log in as root sudo dident work01:50
Pollywogyou used sudo?01:50
kalidarmaby superuser?01:50
kalidaroh nvm01:51
Pollywogthen you did not set yourself uyp for sudo so use root01:51
kalidarforgot i dident coppy sudo lol01:51
Pollywogk01:51
aHi kalidar, could I know how to change text color ?01:51
fjallagyldirproblem is its anatheros ar5007g chipset, madwifi drivers installed but nopthing appaers with iwconfig01:51
kalidarwell that was too easy01:51
kalidarthat couldent have been all01:52
Pollywogfjallagyldir: did you use ndiswrapper?01:52
kalidarthat was so simple XD01:52
Pollywogkalidar, you will find out if you restart X01:52
kalidarthats ok i dont have to restart i belive its my default now01:52
Pollywogk01:52
kalidarit said using metacity to provide x window manager01:52
fjallagyldirno i used madwifi restricted modules, and it should be supported according to ther HP01:52
fjallagyldirhttp://www.wireless-driver.com/download/atheros/Atheros-Wirelss-Module-Model-and-Chipset.htm Pollywog01:53
kalidarim gona go read those sound fixes thakns man ill be back in a bit01:53
kalidara you want to know how to change text color?01:53
kalidarwhat version of irc are you supporting rite now?01:54
kalidarirssi?01:54
Pollywogfjallagyldir: did you look in the wiki?01:54
kalidaror xchat or konversation01:54
kalidara01:54
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Pollywogfjallagyldir: I am pretty sure the Ubuntu wiki has the info you need to get it working01:54
fjallagyldirwhich one do u mean Pollywog01:55
Pollywogyou can google for it01:55
kalidarif you say someones name in irc it highlights a different color like private message rite?01:55
Pollywogyou installed the drivers, apparently01:55
fjallagyldirasked google, so far no luck01:55
Pollywoghold on01:55
Pollywogfjallagyldir: Hardy or Intrepid?01:56
Pollywogthis info is for atheros wifi on Intrepid: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Atheros_Cards01:57
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fjallagyldirfound something and will try it01:58
kalidarpolly i tryed artsdsp -v -m et but it says extention not found01:59
kalidarpollywog02:00
kalidaris that because i instaled the game localy instead of systemwide?02:01
kalidaranyone? how would i preform artsdsp -v -m et on a localy instaled file?02:02
kalidarls02:02
casinowarrenI have a question about a program that I just downloaded02:03
kalidarshoot02:04
casinowarrenI downloaded virtual box, and want to know if there is anything else that I need to install to make it work02:04
casinowarrenlike to get USB support or to get the OS to read the internet02:04
kalidarsorry not a clue whas a virtual box?02:04
kalidarwhats02:05
casinowarrenvirtual box allows you to install another OS inside of linux02:05
kalidarkinda like wine?02:05
babylonsfuryalright damn sweet, new 9.04 beta works perfect out of box, first one to work from the get go02:05
Rieshcasinowarren: you need to get the user into the vboxusers group02:05
Rieshkalidar: no like vmware02:05
casinowarrenok02:05
kalidarrealy! how do i get a virtualbox02:05
kalidari gota pay for it?02:05
Riesh:-) ... no02:06
casinowarrenget it from your repositories02:06
babylonsfuryno video issues, no special boot options, no usb problems, no nothing, no sound missing, no printer missing, it just works02:06
casinowarrentype in virtual box02:06
Rieshapt-cache search virtualbox02:06
casinowarrenhow do i do that riesh?02:06
kalidardo i have to partition offf hardspace to run a virtual box?02:06
babylonsfuryafter 2 days of messing with command lines you don't know how good that feels :)02:06
Rieshcasinowarren: using kde ?02:06
casinowarrenyeah you set it up02:06
casinowarrenyeah using kde02:06
kalidarcrazy! i dident kow that existed02:07
Rieshcasinowarren: go to System -> user manager ...02:07
kalidarso you could have windows running inside a window on yr desktop!?02:07
casinowarrenyeah02:07
casinowarrena full copy of it02:07
kalidarwhaaaaaaaaat man im downloading windows02:07
casinowarrena full installation02:07
kalidarand throwin it on my linux02:07
kalidarso i can play games and crap lol02:07
kalidarthx02:07
Rieshkalidar: not really ...02:07
kalidaroh btw anyone know how i can artsdsp -v -m et a localy instaled file?02:08
kalidarwhy not riesh?02:08
Rieshdirectx is not really supported02:08
casinowarrenno it isn't02:08
kalidaraww then whats the point then :(02:08
devilsadvocatecasinowarren, usb support is a bit of a pain, but it can be setup. internet works out of the box02:08
casinowarrenbecause it makes it easier to install some programs02:08
kalidaronly reason you would ever want another system outside of linux is for gameing lol02:08
RieshThere are other programs which are windows only02:08
kalidarlinux has everything else masterd02:08
kalidarhmm i getcha02:09
devilsadvocatecasinowarren, i'd suggest getting the guest additions iso02:09
casinowarrendevilsadvocate: it didn't work when I tried to use the net02:09
kalidarstill that is prety cool il have to rember that02:09
babylonsfuryonly cause directx is still the current standard :P02:09
casinowarrendevilsadvocate: where do I get the guest additions?02:09
devilsadvocatecasinowarren, did you setup your network card (on vbox) to do NAT?02:09
babylonsfuryonce directx goes bye bye...02:09
babylonsfuryand a new portable standard comes along...02:09
casinowarrenummmmmmmmmmm....i'm not sure02:09
casinowarrenlet me open it up02:09
kalidarhopefuly02:09
babylonsfurythat would make things a lot better :) not sure I'd say perfect, but a lot better02:09
devilsadvocatecasinowarren, i dont remember. click on the install guest additions option in the menu and it will link to it02:10
kalidarso direct x is the only thing that wont work on a virtual box?02:10
casinowarrenRiesh: what user do I need to put in the vbox?02:10
casinowarrenalright02:10
Rieshcasinowarren: you have a group vboxusers ... and you need to add your user account in there02:10
fachfgnomehello02:10
fjallagyldircasinowarren, you should also install virtualbox-tools (dont remember the correct name)02:10
ahi02:11
kalidarartsdsp -v -m et can anyone tle me how i can preform that command on a localy installed file?02:11
Rieshcasinowarren: after that you have to log out and login again to make this work ...02:11
casinowarrenalright02:11
kalidarartsdsp -v -m (filepath) dosent work ither02:12
kalidartryed boath02:12
kalidaranyone?02:12
casinowarrenReish: thanks02:12
casinowarrenfjallagyldir: I can get that from the repositories right?02:13
Rieshcasinowarren: welcome02:13
kalidarnobudy knows??02:13
casinowarrenknow's what kalidar?02:13
kalidarhmm guess i could mess around a while02:13
kalidari ned to know how to preform artsdsp -v -m on a localy installe file02:14
fjallagyldirthink so just installed it on my gentoo box casinowarren, or maybe when you start VB it asks you if it should install these thing02:14
kalidarit wont work cuz the file i instaled isent system wide rite?02:14
Rieshcasinowarren: i suggest you install from the virtualbox site yourself .. then you always can get the latest software ...02:14
fjallagyldiri also remember a menu where you can install that stuff casinowarren02:14
casinowarrenalright, i'll uninstall and download02:15
Rieshcasinowarren: i have this in my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian intrepid non-free02:15
casinowarrendo I put that in my repositories list?02:17
Rieshyes02:17
casinowarrenok02:17
kalidara;kjgf;akgdj;ag02:17
Rieshbut on their site it is explained very well02:17
kalidarstupid documentation is so vague02:17
kalidarill try ubuntu its to busy here l8tr guys02:17
casinowarrenok, hond on just a second02:18
Rieshhttp://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads02:18
tapas_hello02:18
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chxhow can i safely shut down a kde3 w/o a mouse?02:19
chxi mean, i can type in shutdown now but hwo can i get to the kde shutdown menu02:19
chxahhh good old ctrl+alt+del02:21
casinowarrenRiesh: what's that?02:21
Rieshcasinowarren: what is what?02:21
casinowarrenthe link you sent me02:21
Rieshit's from the website virtualbox ...02:22
Rieshsometimes they have newer versions of virtualbox then in the repositories02:22
casinowarrenalright02:23
marco__hi everybody02:25
marco__I am looking for help02:25
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casinowarreni'm downloading the newest version of the program now02:26
casinowarrenonce it downloads, it should update what I currently have right?02:26
Rieshcasinowarren: depends on which version you have now installed02:27
fachfgnometell me marco__02:27
marco__I had to reinstall 8.04 on my pc because after upgrading to 8.10 is crashed at startup and had grub problems. After reinstalling my video card is not recognized and I have to use xrandr everytime I log in. My videocard is a VIA S3 chipset K8M800, openchrome seems o be useless and recionfiguring xorg I am just askd a few questions on my keyboard, nothing more02:27
casinowarren2.0.402:27
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fachfgnomemarco speak spanish02:27
Rieshi think you betetr first un-install that02:28
casinowarrenalright02:28
marco__I cannot speak spanish I am not spanish02:28
Rieshbecause they both use the vboxdrv and vboxnet .... probably will give conflicts02:28
casinowarreni see02:29
casinowarrenwell i'm uninstalling right now02:29
casinowarreni'm so anxious02:29
RieshOK ... after that install with sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.102:29
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casinowarreneven though i downloaded the .deb file?02:29
marco__any help??02:30
casinowarrenhold on marco, i'm reading what you said02:30
Rieshcasinowarren: no .. then install with sudo dpkg -i virtualbox-2.1.deb ... (don't know if thats the name)02:30
casinowarrenok one second02:31
jlcamarok 2 not support ipods anymore?02:32
abye everybody!02:32
Rieshmarco__: personaly i nver had good experiences with uppgrading from one release to another release ... so i not really recommending that. Better start from a fresh install02:34
marco__well02:34
marco__that is what i did02:34
Rieshyou installed again from 8.04.2?02:36
marco__yes exactly02:37
devilsadvocatemarco__, yeah. most of the stuff is not handled by xrandr, not form xorg.conf02:38
marco__yeah but reconfiguring that is no use02:38
devilsadvocateyeah, it wont be02:39
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casinowarrenReish: it keeps telling me that the same package is available in a software channel02:43
dr_willisI always do fresh installs also.02:43
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Rieshcasinowarren: what you mean ? ...02:43
casinowarrenRiesh: when I try to install the .deb package02:43
Rieshwhat tells when you do what?02:43
casinowarrenthere is a window that pops up and tells me02:44
Rieshreally ? ... but you said you installed 2.0.4 from the repositories ... and 2.1 i newer then that02:44
casinowarreni know02:45
casinowarrenthat's why i'm lost and getting frustrated02:45
Rieshcasinowarren: i mostly install things like debs on the command line02:45
casinowarreni tried to do it like that, and it wouldn't let me02:45
Riesh???02:46
casinowarrenso i double clicked on it and let the installer do it's thing02:46
casinowarrenbecause i installed the deb installer package02:46
Rieshsudo dpkg -i vbox.deb ?02:46
casinowarrensudo dpkg -i then the package name02:47
Rieshcasinowarren: and after that you get an error message that the same package is also in the repositories ?02:48
casinowarrenyeah, it let's me know that the same version is in a software channel02:48
RieshBut you did not add the virtualbox.org repository, right ?02:49
casinowarrenyes i did with the info you gave me02:49
Rieshaaaaaaaahhhh ...02:49
Rieshthen just install with sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.102:50
Rieshthere was no need to download the deb file also02:50
jnalliI can't get any screensavers to work in neon nightly02:51
jnallihow come?02:51
jnalliKDE 4.202:51
Rieshjnalli: what is neon nightly ? :-)02:51
jnalliisnt that kde 4.2?02:52
Rieshjnalli: i don't think you are running nightly builds of kde 4.202:52
jnallihow do i tell?02:52
devilsadvocatejnalli, Neon is amarok's nightly build codename02:52
jnalliOh02:53
devilsadvocatekde 4.2 is kde 4.2, and is stable (ie, no nightlies)02:53
jnallimy screensavers dont work02:53
jnallior none are included02:53
devilsadvocatejnalli, i think none are included02:53
fjallagyldirfinally got my wifi running02:54
jnallihow do i get them?02:54
devilsadvocatejnalli, searching02:54
Rieshapt-cache search screensaver02:54
devilsadvocatejnalli, install kscreensaver02:54
jnallihow?02:55
Rieshsudo apt-get install kscreensaver02:55
jnallisudo apt-get install kscreensaver?02:55
devilsadvocateyeah02:55
jnalliOkay.. I'll try it02:57
jnalliit's installing something02:57
nicholas__hello03:15
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tacosarecoolok03:15
tacosarecoolIs the 9.04 beta worth it?03:16
khindenburgtacosarecool: no idea, just burned the dvd... need to try it03:23
Zxcvbis there a version of kubuntu for netbooks?03:26
devilsadvocateZxcvb, not that i know of03:28
devilsadvocateZxcvb, there isnt really much different, is there?03:29
Zxcvbother than not taking up as much hard drive space and disabling graphical effects and quickstart stuff by default, I don't think so03:30
DaskreechWhat's the Harddrive partioner?03:30
devilsadvocateZxcvb, hm03:31
devilsadvocateDaskreech, qtparted might work. dont know what the default is03:31
nightdreverji03:31
Daskreechdevilsadvocate: Ok thanks03:32
nightdreverhi*03:32
devilsadvocateZxcvb, i dont know how you can reduce hard drive usage from a default kubuntu install03:32
devilsadvocateits pretty minimal to start with03:32
devilsadvocateZxcvb, http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/15103:33
Zxcvbnot counting swap and /home space, how much disk space does a default install use?03:35
devilsadvocatei think around 2 gb, maybe 3 at most03:37
devilsadvocatei dont really remember now03:37
devilsadvocatethere was a time when my entire /, including home, was on 6 gb03:37
devilsadvocate(a long time ago)03:37
Zxcvbjust checking, as I have an old laptop (1ghz, 512mb ram) that only has a 20gb hard drive03:38
Zxcvbgoing to set it up for use as a netbook03:38
devilsadvocate(~2 years, home was probably about 2 g)03:38
devilsadvocateah03:38
devilsadvocatei have a similar laptop, 800 MHz, 284 MB ram03:38
devilsadvocate384*03:38
devilsadvocate80 G hard drive though03:38
Zxcvbso the goal is to have as much space as possible for /home03:38
Zxcvbunfortunately the cdrom doesn't work and I don't think it supports booting from usb03:39
devilsadvocateyou can still install03:39
devilsadvocatedo you have a working operating system on it?03:40
Daskreech!install03:40
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation.  Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - see also !automate03:40
Zxcvbwindows 2000, I think03:40
devilsadvocatethere is a grub for windows. not sure if it supports 2000, possibly not. you can check. its possible to install with it03:42
deus_nass03:43
devilsadvocatealternatively, there is a way in which on win NT and its successors, of which i think 2000 is one of them, you can use the windows bootloader to point to a linux image03:43
DaskreechZxcvb: Does it havea network card?03:44
Zxcvbyes03:45
Zxcvbis there anything like smart boot manager that can boot from usb?03:45
marco__hey03:58
marco__anybody can help me??03:58
marco__ I had to reinstall 8.04 on my pc because after upgrading to 8.10 is crashed at startup and had grub problems. After reinstalling my video card is not recognized and I have to use xrandr everytime I log in. My videocard is a VIA S3 chipset K8M800, openchrome seems o be useless and recionfiguring xorg I am just askd a few questions on my keyboard, nothing more03:58
DaskreechVia has it's own driver04:00
Daskreechsomethingsomethign chrome04:00
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marco__ I had to reinstall 8.04 on my pc because after upgrading to 8.10 is crashed at startup and had grub problems. After reinstalling my video card is not recognized and I have to use xrandr everytime I log in. My videocard is a VIA S3 chipset K8M800, openchrome seems o be useless and recionfiguring xorg I am just askd a few questions on my keyboard, nothing more04:06
babylonsfuryhey guys04:12
babylonsfurymy usb keyboard in kubuntu here, is dirt slow04:12
babylonsfuryand so is my mouse, sluggish slow04:12
babylonsfuryits not a video problem, just updated video card drivers, and 3d runs beautifully04:12
babylonsfuryas does 2d performance04:12
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khindenburgbabylonsfury: just guessing, have you check the system settings->keyboard&mouse to see if anything strange is set?.... have you tried in a vt ?04:18
Zxcvbis there a way to install kubuntu via loadlin?04:20
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AlabamaHitHi everyone.04:24
AlabamaHitI'm installing now...i have a quick questin on it04:24
AlabamaHitI have windows installed already. On the partion setup does Install them side by side mean that its going to dual boot?04:25
babylonsfurykhindenburg: whats a vt04:25
khindenburgAlabamaHit: I don't think the partition setup has anything to do w/ dual boot.  Grub will automatically find Windows OS04:26
AlabamaHitYeah, thats what is odd on there is don't say the windows OS. it says sda104:26
khindenburgbabylonsfury: virtual terminal... hit ctrl+alt+f1, then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X04:26
khindenburgAlabamaHit: you should check out the install howtos just to be sure04:27
khindenburg!install04:27
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation.  Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - see also !automate04:27
AlabamaHithumm....print screen taking picture.....is there a way in KDE to take screen shot?04:27
khindenburgAlabamaHit: ksnapshot04:28
babylonsfurykhindenburg: trying vt now04:28
khindenburgbabylonsfury: you won't have a mouse but you should be able to check keyboard04:29
khindenburgbabylonsfury: try to edit a file and see how fast you can type04:29
babylonsfurykhindenburg: yeah its taking a while to load vt04:29
babylonsfurykhindenburg: something about a no resume image doing normal boot, and a first time init, performing custom init procedure04:30
khindenburgbabylonsfury: to load?  it should be < 1 sec to get to the screen04:31
AlabamaHitkhindenburg: http://s5.tinypic.com/13zvh1.jpg that is what im looking at....First time installing KDE...have used gnome..and in gnome it usually has version on there where sda1 is...04:31
babylonsfurykhindenburg: yeah vt still hasn't loaded04:31
khindenburgAlabamaHit: well I use the bottom one, since I partition the HD w/ fdisk on a terminal... I'm not sure what the other options do04:32
khindenburgbabylonsfury: yikes, that's not good... is the CPU at 100%?  You could log out and then try the vt04:32
babylonsfurykhindenburg: not sure how to check cpu %, only third day in linux :)04:34
khindenburgAlabamaHit: read the help pages... you don't want to lose your windows partition04:34
AlabamaHitkhindenburg: Just looked over them...Seems that is the option i was wanting. :)04:34
khindenburgbabylonsfury: well if your CPU is at 100% then everything could be slow; you want to start System Monitor in the System menu04:37
khindenburgbabylonsfury: so KDE button->applications->system->system monitor04:37
babylonsfurykhindenburg: cpu 0% memory 614 MiB/23.8 GiB04:38
khindenburgbabylonsfury: well that's good I guess.... I honestly don't know what would make keyboard/mouse that slow... or why  the vt would be slow04:39
babylonsfurykhindenburg: vt appears to be locked up, not slow at this point04:39
AlabamaHitbabylonsfury: wow 23 gig ram :P04:39
Elone>.> 23.8 GB ram..... >.>04:39
AlabamaHitthought my 8gig was high lol04:39
babylonsfurykhindenburg: and all my usb input is slow, mouse and keyboard, keyboard is just the most annoying, can barely type04:40
khindenburgbabylonsfury: you just installed Kubuntu on this system?  What version?04:40
babylonsfurykhindenburg: jaunty beta 9.04 only thing that would even recognize my usb devices, and video, and audio, at same time04:42
khindenburgbabylonsfury: oh beta... make sure you file a report on it04:42
khindenburgbabylonsfury: if you have the liveCD beta, do you have the same issue?04:43
babylonsfurykhindenburg: yep, on every livecd I have, including gnome, usb is so sluggish its not funny04:43
babylonsfurykhindenburg: thought it was video, but can confirm its not04:44
babylonsfurykhindenburg: neverwinter nights runs beautifully, with a whopping 105 fps04:44
babylonsfurykhindenburg: tweaked the mouse settings and keyboard repeat settings, besides for keyboard being ridiculously sluggish, mouse is usable now, and keyboard doesn't repeat 35 of every character by me accidentally pushing a key04:45
babylonsfurykhindenburg: and thank god for my laptop here, which doesn't have the issues, lol04:46
khindenburgbabylonsfury: try an old non-usb keyboard/mouse if you have the stuff04:46
babylonsfurykhindenburg: already tried a serial/rs232 keyboard, worked like a dang charm04:46
khindenburgbabylonsfury: I just burned the beta liveDVD... haven't tried it yet though04:47
babylonsfurykhindenburg: cool, I04:47
babylonsfurykhindenburg: 'm pretty sure its the usb controller, just not sure what to play with/tweak to get it to run better, no clue where the usb settings are hidden04:47
khindenburgbabylonsfury: think usb is handled by udev stuff now... /etc/udev... not sure if you  can do anything though04:48
AlabamaHitHas anyone else tried to dual boot.....the installer has been hung up at Resizing Partion for awhile.04:51
babylonsfurykhindenburg: yeah dont see anything offhand I can tweak there :(04:51
khindenburgbabylonsfury: have you tried the obvious?  remove your KVM (if you have one); changing the USB port... removing all the other USB devices?04:52
babylonsfurykhindenburg: yep04:53
khindenburgAlabamaHit: resizing might take a long time... never tried it myself...04:53
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khindenburgbabylonsfury: don't know what to tell you... I would try a non-usb keyboard/mouse to test my system but that's due to I have old equippment around04:55
babylonsfurykhindenburg: yeah I'm using an rs232 keyboard right now in addition to the usb04:55
babylonsfurykhindenburg: but I need my rs232 port, as I do device level programming (AMX/Crestron) and use the port to communicate with the device masters lol04:56
khindenburgbabylonsfury: no ps/2 keyboard/mouse laying around?04:56
babylonsfurykhindenburg: no ps/2 ports :(04:57
khindenburgbabylonsfury: I have connections ps/2->usb... think  I got them w/ some equipment I bought04:57
khindenburgbabylonsfury: would rule out the usb keyboard/mouse04:58
babylonsfurykhindenburg: might try disabling the usb 2.0 in bios04:58
khindenburgbabylonsfury: yea, play around w/ bios04:59
devilsadvocatebabylonsfury, lsmod | grep usb , dmesg |grep usb , lsusb might shed some light on the matter04:59
snarkstereveing all05:00
babylonsfuryha, usbhid unknown05:03
holyscottis there a comand I could use to apt-get the newest kde 4.2.1 desk top in a ubuntu based distro and end up basically the same place as the new beta? (from linux mint)05:17
DaskreechAargh Quassel bad05:20
Daskreechand yet so good :(05:20
khindenburgDaskreech: haven't tried it yet... should I guess05:21
DaskreechNo shortcut keeys makes me cry05:21
Daskreechbut having the full live website pop up in a tooltip when you mouse over a link does make me smile05:21
khindenburgit requires sqlite which seems like a bit much for an irc client05:23
devilsadvocateholyscott, which ubuntu based distro, and what version?05:23
* devilsadvocate agrees and disagrees with khindenburg 05:24
Daskreechkhindenburg: Yeah that's where it keeps it's config05:24
devilsadvocateon the one hand, its good that stuff is moving into dbs, where stuff is db worthy05:24
devilsadvocateon the other hand, in the short term it just makes it painfully redundant to have a whole bunch of stuff just running05:25
devilsadvocatebut sqlite is not so bad ... thats just a flatfile based system05:25
zeltakholy crap..im sooo impressed by jaunty ...i think its the best release since i started using dapper..05:33
zeltakanyone else agrees?05:33
Daskreechumm05:37
khindenburgzeltak: just burned DVD, haven't tried it yet05:37
DaskreechIt's just in beta how long have you been using it?05:38
astrobeari haven't tried jaunty yet, i'm sure it will be good, i'm using the latest kde apps from svn and there are many improvements. one for the records: konqueror now handles flash embedded in javascript so it doesn't have an issue with youtube or similar sites :)05:39
Daskreechastromme: what build?05:41
khindenburgastrobear: yea  I tried to figure out what desktop version (branch 4.2/trunk) I wanted to run for my daily machine.. I just decided to stick w/ Kubuntu 8.1005:47
Daskreechmtholdenss: Teach the mac how to speak ext305:50
babylonsfuryok how do I kill comptiz/desktop effects (turnt on one my vid card didn't like) from the console?05:55
babylonsfurycause now pushing alt f7 gives me nothing but an unusable flashing screen05:55
babylonsfurylol05:55
babylonsfuryah alt shif tf12 is my friend06:01
laolifd06:17
laolils06:17
Daskreechyes?06:17
holyscottHow difficult is it to turn the grub on the new beta into a grapical grub boot?06:47
JohnFluxholyscott: I guess you mean grub206:52
JohnFluxholyscott: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-2.en.html06:53
holyscottI don't know exactly, whatever linux mint was using to have a graphical grub06:54
astrobearthere was at one time in kde 3 an easy way to host files, i forget how it was done, but anyone know of something similar?07:00
cerecitasi'm trying to install a plasmoid and in the instructionsi have this line cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix`07:15
cerecitasi wonder if it makes sense as it is or something needs to be replaced by something else07:16
cerecitassorry07:27
cerecitasactually i think there is something messed up07:28
Rieshcerecitas: i also build some plasmoids this way ... you just need to have the development packages installed07:29
cerecitasaha ok Riesh thanks :)07:29
Rieshkdeworkspace-dev i believe07:29
cerecitasthanks i will try ;d07:31
plasmaghoriks=)07:53
helpdesk_hi08:31
helpdesk_anybody08:31
helpdesk_knock knock08:31
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cerecitasim having issues compiling a widget08:56
cerecitasand i dunno what it means or how to fix it08:56
uranzna ktoś polski?08:57
cerecitastroche uran08:57
cerecitasdla pomocy po polsku chyba #kubuntu-pl08:57
uranto fajnie08:57
cerecitas;) tu tylko po angielsku sori08:58
Mamarok!pl | uran08:59
ubottuuran: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl08:59
uranna kubuntu.pl nikogo nie ma08:59
cerecitasjuz widzialam..#ubuntu-pl08:59
Mamarokuran: this channel is English only08:59
cerecitasMamarok:  it's highly possible he can't speak english...08:59
Mamarokthat's why I gave him the link :)09:00
cerecitastrying to send him to the good one sorry09:00
cerecitasthere is no kubuntu in polish?09:00
Mamarokno idea, but not all languages have both Ubuntu and Kubuntu channels09:00
cerecitasi see09:01
bazhangyes there is support for both there09:01
Mamarokso the easiest way is to use the bot for the language09:01
Mamarokwhich gives the appropriate channel09:01
cerecitasi see again :d09:01
aotianlong.join ubuntu-cn09:04
cerecitasi installed kde-dev today, tried to compile something and http://pastebin.com/m770c1ad4 tadah! a bunch of errors.. what's missing please???09:04
Mamarokcerecitas: you will need kde-devel which is a meta package09:05
cerecitasi think that's the one i installed Mamarok09:05
* Mamarok checks the paste09:05
cerecitasit installed a bunch of packages earlier today09:05
* cerecitas checks bash history09:05
cerecitasjup kde-devel it was09:06
Mamarokcerecitas: it doesn't find your C++ compiler as it seems09:06
Mamarokinstall build-essential too09:07
cerecitassec09:07
cerecitastrying again...09:09
cerecitasok Mamarok   Please install the msgfmt binary09:10
cerecitasneed to install that one as well/??09:10
Mamarokwell, yes, of course :)09:10
Mamarokif it asks you for it09:10
Mamarokcerecitas: what are you trying to compile?09:10
cerecitasjust a widget a weather one09:11
cerecitasbut i cannot find any package called like that09:11
Mamarokok09:11
cerecitasthis is too big for me i think :D09:11
Mamarokwhich version of KDE4 are you running?09:11
cerecitas4.2 but dunno if 4.2.0 or 4.2.109:11
cerecitascan't remember the command to check it09:12
Mamarokok, did you try finding the library using apt-cache search?09:12
cerecitashmm sec09:12
Mamarokyou need libgettext09:12
cerecitasaha now i see but i see 4 of them09:12
Mamarokwell, install the -dev one, as you try to compile you allways need the -dev packages09:13
cerecitashmm no dev here09:13
cerecitasjust data util and ruby 1,8 and 1.909:13
Mamarokoh, well, the install the -util, it will likely get the -data also09:13
cerecitasaha there i go09:14
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Mamarokcerecitas: the -ruby is probably a bindings package you need if you develop in ruby09:15
cerecitasaha09:15
cerecitassomeone said compiling was not so hard09:15
cerecitasjust make && make install09:15
cerecitasi'm gonna skin him on monday  when i catch him :D09:16
urzumphanyone here an exim expert? I'm trying to forward my local accounts to my gmail address and not having any luck09:16
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware09:16
Mamarokcerecitas: well, yes, if you have a tarball and all dependencies it's easy ;)09:16
cerecitashehehe09:17
cerecitasthanks bazhang :D09:17
cerecitasyou know, i really like the .deb files09:17
cerecitastrying again...09:18
cerecitasoooo09:18
cerecitasbuild files have been written to :D09:18
Mamarokcerecitas: then, if there are missing dependencies, search for them with apt-cache search09:18
cerecitasaha09:18
Mamarokit's not hard, only sometimes long till you find all dependencies09:19
Mamarokthat's where packaging can be hell09:19
cerecitasit is confusing Mamarok... i don't really understand what i am doing09:19
Mamarokcerecitas: you have a tarball with the source09:20
cerecitasyes09:20
Mamarokthe source needs libraries to get build, nd the compiler tells you what is missing09:20
cerecitasunpacked it, and right now is all in a folder09:20
cerecitasahaaaaaaaa09:20
Mamarok*and09:20
Mamarokso it doesn't build unless you have all dependencies, and in the correct version09:20
Mamarokusually it is a good idea to read the INSTALL or README files09:21
cerecitasyeah i am following the readme :D09:21
Mamarokor whatever file there is in the tarball written in capital letters09:21
cerecitasbut you know, sometimes it assumes you know some things you dont :p09:21
Mamarokif the developer has done it right, it tells you which dependencies you need09:21
cerecitashmmm another error09:22
Mamarokelse, slap the developer for not documenting well enough ;)09:22
Mamarokcerecitas: it tells you what is missing normaly09:22
cerecitashmm i think i know why this error is09:22
cerecitasi just wrote make  && make install09:22
cerecitasshould it be sudo make && sudo make install?09:23
cerecitasneeds to write in /usr/lib...09:23
Mamarokand to find an error easier in konsole you can activate the search function with Ctrl+Shift+F09:23
Mamarokno, make is never done with sudo09:23
Mamarokonly make install09:23
cerecitashmmm ahaaa09:23
cerecitasmaybe that is why that error09:23
cerecitasok that's done :D09:24
Mamarokmake is compiling, make install writes the build into the correct folders, so if those are system wide, you need to be root09:24
cerecitasaha09:24
Mamaroklike /usr can only been written with sudo09:25
cerecitasok so now it should be all setup... let's try to find my widget hihi09:25
Mamarokgood :)09:25
cerecitasnice one, all frozen09:27
cerecitasi cannot add widgets since the upgrade to kde 4.2 last weekend09:28
cerecitasworked just after the upgrade but never agai09:28
cerecitas*again09:28
Mamarokcerecitas: are you using Intrepid?09:29
cerecitasyeap09:29
cerecitasjust give me a second because i managed to freeze it all up again :D09:29
Mamarokhm, did you try reinstalling the widgets?09:29
Mamarok:(09:29
cerecitassorry, i will keep my fingers quiet from now on Mamarok :D09:31
Mamarokhm, did you try reinstalling the widgets?09:31
cerecitashow would i do that?09:31
Mamarokcheck your kde 4 version, sometimes it's just a version problem09:31
cerecitashmmm how do you check that/09:32
cerecitas?09:32
Mamarokcerecitas: well, go to the Help menu and open About KDE09:32
cerecitasdolphin says it's kde 4.2.0009:32
Mamarokok, so you really should update, your kde to 4.2.1, it's likely you have a version problem09:33
cerecitasooook i will try to find how in kubuntu site... pretty sure it's there09:33
Mamarokyes, exactly :)09:34
cerecitasi have abused you enough already ;p09:35
Mamarokwell, I have time this morning, so no problem :)09:36
Mamarokbut I need breakfast now09:36
cerecitashehehehe enjoy :D09:37
cerecitasi also think i know why i cannot install widgets :D kde 4.1 plasmoids are not compatible with 4,209:37
cerecitasmaybe that's why :D09:37
cerecitasim gonna grab some coffee and put myself to it hihi09:37
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Aisonhello :) just tested jaunty yesterday. possible that it's not possible to install kubuntu-desktop there? ;)09:51
bazhangAison, #ubuntu+1 for that09:51
Aisonah, ok :)09:51
cerecitaswhich is the name for the kde4.2.1 package? i have unsupported updates enabled but i cannot find it with adept09:54
p-fIs there a hidden "do not crash randomly" option for the flash browser plugin somewhere?09:54
Aisonbazhang, I guess was some update issue, now it works ^^  dunno09:55
StR|Sangrealhello... please what do i need in order to install and launch directx dependant win applications?09:55
cerecitasthere is something really messed up in my KDE09:57
ankurSangreal u have to install wine09:57
ankurn wine doosas well09:57
AisonStR|Sangreal, depends on directx version etc... everything is very experimental09:57
victimhow do I resolve09:57
victimsudo: apt-get -y install  can't parse dependency ooobasis30-en_us: command not found09:57
victimUnable to resolve  can't parse dependency ooobasis30-en_us.  Please manually install and try again.09:57
AisonStR|Sangreal, but sometimes it works with wine09:57
StR|Sangrealokay let me try :)09:57
ankurwhen u have installed wine ,configure graphics in graphics tab under wine configuration09:58
ankurvictim there r some dependencies broken right now09:59
ankureither u can install manually or u have to wait to get fixed that dependencies09:59
victimthanks10:02
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Mamarokcerecitas: you need to download the key for the repo, else Adept doesn't see it10:12
Mamarokor install with sudo apt-get upgrade10:13
cerecitastried to use apt-get upgrade and nothing worked10:13
cerecitasi mean10:13
cerecitasnothing to upgrade Mamarok, yet i still see 4.2.010:13
cerecitasand in kde.org sends to kubuntu.org and there is only how to do it thru adept10:13
cerecitasim lost now :s10:13
Mamarokcerecitas: also, you only need the backports repo for the newer version10:13
Mamarokwait, I'll check10:14
p-fHow does one go about editing kubuntu xorg configs? I just tried to edit mine and it's completely empty except for sections with only an identifier in them...10:15
Mamarokcerecitas: did you read that:10:15
Mamarok"Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should uninstall any plasmoids."10:15
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cerecitasyeap Mamarok i have been trying a few things10:16
cerecitasmoved the whole kde directory to a backup and logged in and out again10:16
cerecitasright now i can use all the kde4.2 new plasmoids10:16
cerecitasbut now i want to update to kde 4.2.1 and i cant hihihi10:17
Mamarokcerecitas: could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list please?10:17
cerecitasyep second10:17
cerecitaslooks a bit weird to me :p http://pastebin.com/m2d92c48b10:19
Mamarokcerecitas: you have some double entries as it seems10:22
Mamarokbackports are in it twice10:22
cerecitashmmm10:22
cerecitaslet me check10:23
cerecitashmm i dont see them double in adept10:24
cerecitasare the ppa.launchpad right Mamarok?10:24
Mamarokwait, I check with mine...10:24
Mamarokcerecitas: the last line seems wrong, it says ubuntu instead of kubuntu10:25
Mamaroksry, my bad10:25
Dynetrekkhow can I upgrade my kde 4.1 to ke 4.2?10:26
Mamarokdo you get errors when you do sudo apt-get update?10:26
Mamarokcerecitas: ^10:26
bazhangDynetrekk, enable the backports (if in intrepid)10:26
Dynetrekkbazhang: short explanation of what backports is?10:27
cerecitashmmm not really Mamarok only with aptitude upgrade. says it's deprecated use safe-upgrade instead10:27
Dynetrekkintrepid ibex = 8.10? that's the one I have anyway10:27
cerecitasbut let me check once again,, i've never noticed10:27
bazhang!backports10:27
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging10:27
bazhangDynetrekk, ^^10:27
Dynetrekkbazhang: thanks a bunch!10:27
cerecitasnothing Mamarok no errors10:28
Mamarokcerecitas: moment...10:28
chenlevy_Can any one commnet of the avalability of Amarok 1.4 in Kubuntu Jaunty?10:29
Mamarokchenlevy_: there is only Amarok 2.0.2 in Jaunty10:29
Dynetrekkbazhang: I guess I exchange hardy with intrepid in this line?10:29
Dynetrekkdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-backports main universe multiverse restricted10:29
Mamarokcerecitas: did you download the key for the repo?10:30
cerecitashmmmm no, i just added the repo in adept 3rd party software i think10:30
Mamarokcerecitas: because Adept doesn't see non-signed repos10:31
Mamarokcheck the kubuntu.org website again, it tells you how to install that key10:31
cerecitasaha ok thanks10:31
cerecitas:D10:31
bazhangDynetrekk, you are on hardy or intrepid10:31
chenlevy_Thanks Mamarok. I looked at Alpha 6, but it was not stated explicilty that 1.4 will be abcent from the Beta.10:31
Mamarokcerecitas: else, try to use the main server instead of the Polish one, could also be a mirror problem10:31
Dynetrekkbazhang: intrepid, the most recent; 8.1010:32
Mamarokchenlevy_: Jaunty doesn't ship KDE3 anymore, and Amarok 1.4.10 needs KDE 310:32
bazhangDynetrekk, what line10:32
Dynetrekkdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-backports main universe multiverse restricted10:32
Mamarokchenlevy_: there never was Amarok 1.4 in any Jaunty, alpha or beta10:32
DynetrekkI found this in the webpage you showed me. seems logical to do hardy->intrepid10:33
bazhangDynetrekk, you are doing this via package manager or cli10:33
Dynetrekkbazhang: cli of course :)10:34
Dynetrekkbazhang: just not used to the ubuntu10:34
bazhangDynetrekk, okay :)10:34
chenlevy_I know that it requires some KDE 3.5 libs, but AFAIK K3B also need them.10:34
bazhangDynetrekk, then yep on that replacement :)10:34
Mamarokchenlevy_: no, there is a KDE4 version of k3b AFAIK10:34
Dynetrekkbazhang:  thanks a bunch. btw, that makes perfect sense with regard to lines further down in the file10:34
Mamarokchenlevy_: if you want Amarok 1.4, stay with Intrepid10:35
chenlevy_I will stay with hady.10:35
chenlevy_KDE 4.2 is the first usable KDE 4 version IMHO, but Amarok 2.0 is not there yet.10:36
Dynetrekkchenlevy_: thanks for the info10:36
Mamarokchenlevy_: did you try Neon to get a preview of 2.1-svn?10:36
Mamarokthere have been enormous changes since 2.010:37
Dynetrekkbazhang: reboot after apt-get upgrade?10:37
Mamarokon the other hand, you need Intrepid for actual Neon10:37
chenlevy_I didn't tryed Neon, I hope that Amarok 2.1 will be better though10:37
bazhangDynetrekk, just log out and login should do it10:38
Mamarokchenlevy_: check the dev blogs on http://amarok.kde.org/blog10:38
Dynetrekkbazhang: right, thanks10:38
chenlevy_Apperntly I am not alone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108497110:38
Mamarokchenlevy_: well, the loud minority :)10:38
Dynetrekkbazhang: hm, it's still at 4.1.4, not 4.2.x10:40
bazhangDynetrekk, did you first sudo apt-get update?10:40
Dynetrekkbazhang: yep, sure did10:40
chenlevy_Mamarok: There are some ranting going on there, but most of the discussion is very well reasoned.10:40
bazhangDynetrekk, that is odd; did you check the link at kubuntu.org10:41
Mamarokchenlevy_: didn't read it yet10:41
Dynetrekkbazhang: link?10:41
bazhangDynetrekk, in the /topic here :)10:41
Dynetrekkbazhang: sorry, didn't catch that one. thanks again!10:42
bazhanghttp://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 hehe10:42
bazhangmay be out of date though, am not sure10:42
Mamarokchenlevy_: basically it's just ranting by people who don't even follow the development of Amarok 2 IMHO10:43
Dynetrekkbazhang: what's the "Full Upgrade" in the terminal? I don't want to learn the bloody GUI to do this :P10:44
Mamarokok, off for a moment, later10:45
Dynetrekkbazhang: never mind, found it10:50
heavenmetalis there a channel dedicated to linuxmce11:11
kopertonyoiu are on kubuntu11:11
kopertonwhat does you mean with linuxcmce11:12
heavenmetalwas trying to find a channel for linuxmce though11:12
kopertonhere you will not find support for that of couse11:12
kopertoncourse11:12
heavenmetalthanks for your support11:13
bazhang!ultimate11:20
ubottuThe following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes; please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ultimate Edition11:20
speedyo.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o..o.o.o.11:29
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Operationho mariapia_ how are you?11:32
Operation??11:33
Operation@:p11:33
Coyote_hi there, i'm using a USB key to connect to internet via 3G, the main problem is that when the connection goes off, knetworkmanager does not reconnect automaticly, how can i do a auto reconnect thing ?11:34
PapupataHi everyone! Do you know how to get proper resolution with nvidia driver through dvi-cable? Because I'm stuck to 640x480.11:38
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vtrtHi!11:54
vtrti have question11:54
vtrtmaybe someone know where the hell songbird 2 installs in kubuntu 8.1011:55
vtrt?11:55
floownhello12:03
floownin Intrepid Ibex I can not find libdb3-util, does exist yet? With another name?12:04
raymearshi folks. small, quick question: i just installed jaunty beta and i was wondering if strigi and nepomuk were functional? cause i can't seem to get the darn things working.12:13
bazhangraymears, #ubuntu+1 for that12:20
raymearsalright. thanks.12:20
BluesKajhowdy12:20
* gambas says hello to the Kubuntu community.12:22
olimpicoI have a problem with pulse audio12:28
olimpicoI first installed ubuntu and the Kubuntu desktop, now pulseaudio is not autmatically started12:29
BluesKajolimpico, use alsa-base, pulseaudio isn't working in kde412:33
olimpicono, I'm using hardy12:34
olimpicokde312:34
BluesKaji still recomend alsa..it's much less trouble12:34
olimpicoThe problem is that I installed ubuntu first, I think, and then Kubuntu, and somehow pulseaudio doesn't get started12:35
olimpicoI even modified the PULSEAUDIO_SYSTEM_START=1 in /etc/default/pulseaudio12:35
olimpicoAnd it doesn't start12:35
olimpicoBut Kaffeine uses pulseaudio as default12:36
olimpicoThat's what troubles me12:36
BluesKajolimpico, i use kaffeine with no probs and pulseaudio isn't installed on my system..btw it uses the xine engine12:38
BluesKajbrb, switching to desktop12:43
jarleIs there a small kubuntu image that will fit on my 500MB usb stick and let me install over the internet?12:43
jarlethe images I find seems to be bigger than 500MB...12:43
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mozzyjarle mini install is less than 10mb see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD12:49
rudlavibizonare ntfs partitions mounted 'statically' in kubuntu 9.04 ?12:50
mozzyas it says "To install, boot your computer from the the Minimal CD and type "cli" (command line install) at the prompt"12:50
bazhang#ubuntu+1 for that rudlavibizon12:50
rudlavibizonok12:50
rudlavibizonsry12:51
|PaperTiger|I love Kubuntu =) It installs so quick :)12:51
jarlemozzy: great, thnx for the link!12:51
|PaperTiger|Is there any way to get a program to default open in a certian desktop window?12:52
ulilichthi! to install kde 4.2, i added the kubuntu-experimental repository to my sources list. i forgot to remove it after the update. yesterday, an update came, since then compositing does no longer work. is there a way, to undo the update?13:11
BluesKajulilicht , try reinstalling compiz13:15
ulilichthm, is compiz really installed at my machiene? i thougt, the compositing is job of kwin?13:16
ulilichtah, okay, i see the entry in adept. trying to reinstall...13:17
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|PaperTiger|Is there a way to have a program open to specific workspace automatically13:19
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ulilichtBluesKaj , it didn't work. When i try to activate desktop effects, only a black screen and the mousepointer appears13:20
ulilicht|PaperTiger| , which kde version do you have?13:20
|PaperTiger|ulilicht, KDE 4.1 atm...13:21
BluesKajulilicht, do you use emerald ?13:21
|PaperTiger|ulilicht, hopefully going to upgrade to 4.213:21
ulilichtBluesKaj , no. i only use the standard kde 4.2 apps13:21
ulilicht|PaperTiger| , in 4.2 there is, i don't know if the option already existed in 4.1. I've installed kde in german, but i try to describe what you have to do.13:23
ulilichtopen your program, right-klick on the top bar (where the name of the window is etc), there should be an entry like "extra" or "special" (in german, "erweitert")  --> then special settings for this program13:25
|PaperTiger|ulilicht, I think I found it13:26
|PaperTiger|ulilicht, purely by mistake just now :P13:26
|PaperTiger|ulilicht, so thanks :)13:26
ulilichtnP13:27
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david__can the network manager connect to wireless with hidden ssid?13:32
m1cha3lit should afaik.13:33
Pliskinthe plasmoid can't for now13:34
david__is it something that will be fixed for the release?  is there a bug filed for it that I can track?13:35
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freexeIs there a way to test a graphics card driver for preformance, I've got a new laptop but desktop effects seem alittle slow13:54
freexeperformance*13:54
anton__Привет13:55
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bazhang!ru13:56
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke13:56
anton__Hm interesting :D13:56
daskreechHa ha sweet14:06
daskreechI just got an e-mail from the manager of a bank in china who wants to propose a deal with me in an e-mail which was sent from a server in italy14:07
Gonjuanty beta rocks!14:12
daskreechnot neeearly as much as koala alpha!14:14
our-pcI just installed Amarok 2 in kubuntu 8.10 but some mp3 files cannot be played. Can anyone help me?14:23
daskreechour-pc: some?14:27
Laeborgis there a gui ftp server?14:27
daskreechLaeborg: Umm14:28
daskreechI guess you mean GUI management of a ftp server14:28
daskreech!ftp14:28
ubottuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP, FileZilla (for !GNOME); !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE); FireFTP (for !Firefox); ftp, lftp (for !cli) - See also !FTPd14:28
daskreech!ftpd14:28
ubottuFTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP14:28
Laeborgno not a client14:29
daskreechSecond one14:29
Laeborgah okay14:29
our-pcyes14:34
our-pcsome files14:34
our-pcmost of them play14:34
BluesKajtrying to configure my HP Deskjet Printer , but I get the message about "orphaned control module" and "third party modules lying around".. I 've forgotten the cli fix command .14:34
|PaperTiger|Can someone name a good music player OTHER THAN Amarok please :)14:34
bazhang!players14:35
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs14:35
Laeborgvlc14:35
our-pcPaperTiger : banshee14:35
jdahlI am having problems connecting to a wireless router in KDE4.2 in Ubuntu 9.04 beta.  From searching on google, this looks like a common problem - is that correct?14:37
bazhang#ubuntu+1 for that jdahl14:38
jdahlok14:38
|PaperTiger|our-pc, does that have good support for creative Zen by any chance?14:38
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TimS!remove gnome14:44
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about remove gnome14:44
TimS!gnome14:45
ubottuGNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.14:45
knomeis networkmanager already qt4?14:45
TimSknome: Yeah, think so.14:45
daskreech!purekde | You want this TimS14:45
ubottuYou want this TimS: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »14:45
TimSwell, they seem to be using a plasma widget in 9.0414:45
TimSCheers daskreech14:46
daskreechknome: Yes14:46
TimSWow, you're still here.14:46
TimSI haven't been in IRC in a while, I still recognise a few names14:46
daskreech:-)14:47
TimSDoc is a bit out of date: "That will install the default Kubuntu system as if you installed from the Kubuntu CD. If you want to install KDE4, change kubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-kde4-desktop. "14:47
TimSAnd 9.04 upgraded me to Amarok 2 :(14:47
TimSYeah, this doc seems to be for 8.04.14:48
jdahl#ubuntu+1 was not very helpful - can anyone here tell me what program/applet you are supposed to use in KDE4.2 for configure WifI?14:48
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our-pcPaperTiger, yes it has i think ,you can check it out on google for sure14:49
daskreechjdahl: From jaunty you use the network manager widget14:50
daskreechTimS: It wouldn't be updated for 9.04 yet14:50
TimSShould it not be updated for 8.10 though?14:50
our-pcPaperTiger, use rythmbox for sure14:50
daskreechTimS: 9.04 is trying to be KDE4 pure on the CD14:50
our-pcthis has less bugs14:50
daskreechTimS: I guess :-)14:50
TimSMakes sense.14:50
p0eteckzany sites for tweaking/optimizing kubuntu?14:51
daskreechp0eteckz: probably14:53
daskreechThough I'm guessing forums are as good as any14:53
p0eteckzany tools like ccleaner?14:55
TimSp0eteckz: Kubuntu doesn't really need a tool like CCleaner, but Firefox and other web browsers have their own clear memory option14:55
TimSLinux uses /temp/ which is cleared on startup, so theres none of the C in CCleaner14:56
daskreechCCleaner?14:58
tenderohow can I stop programs auto readjusting screen brightness?14:59
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pascal_hi15:08
daskreech!hi15:08
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:08
pascal_I need some help. I tried to change the hard drive (with / on it) but it's not working. Possibly because of UUID15:09
daskreechgo on15:09
pascal_I partitioned the new hdd and copied the root-directory from the old one15:10
alabamahitwhere is sypantic on kubuntu?15:10
pascal_with the kubuntu cd I tried to re-install grub15:11
BluesKajalabamahit, sudo apt-get install synaptic15:11
alabamahitBlueEagle: Thank You :)15:11
daskreechalabamahit: not installed use adept if you are using 8.10 or kpackagekit if you are using 9.0415:11
daskreechpascal_: Did you change the /etc/fstab ?15:11
BluesKajalabamahit , adept is the default pkg manager on kde15:11
pascal_yes, I did. But I just replaced the UUID with /dev/hda1 (there I copied the root-directory to)15:12
daskreechahmm ok15:12
nightdreverhi15:13
daskreechpascal_: and you reinstalled grub ?15:13
daskreech!hi15:13
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:13
freexeEclipse is pretty crash happy at the moment, but then again it is using 3.215:13
pascal_it didn't work. So I'm using an installed grub on the second hdd. It's working until the kubuntu logo. Then it stops15:14
freexepascal_: do you have the correct user permissions to use the hhd15:15
daskreechpascal_: take off quiet and see where it fails15:15
daskreechfreexe: It would be using root to start so no permissions needed15:15
freexegood point15:15
daskreechpascal_: if you know what I'm talking about :)15:15
pascal_daskreech: i'll try and come back15:16
daskreechpascal_: using a LIVE CD now?15:16
pascal_no, using an installed xubuntu on the second hdd15:17
daskreechah ok15:17
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s4crificehi all, i have a question... In kopete, my contacts are doubled.... where's the mistake? :-) Can anyone help me?15:34
fachfinstal amsn15:39
fachfamsn is better kopete15:41
tsimpsonthat's not the question they are asking15:41
White_PelicanI just installed jaunty jackelope beta 1 inder virtual box. I tried to get new themes, "installed" a coiple and they don't show up in the list. y?15:43
White_Pelicanunder*15:43
bazhang#ubuntu+1 for that White_Pelican15:45
pascal_I'm back15:46
pascal_daskreech still there?15:47
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fachfhello all15:59
ForgeAusI really wonder about this less than 10% of market share users thing... I'm certain Linux would be more populous than that... maybe the browsers are identifying as firefox and they're assuming that means windows lol!16:05
ForgeAusI mean for my user agent on at least one browser I had to actually add the Linux/X11 values to it manually in the options!16:05
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ytooxwhen I upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 will I be able to change the filesystem as well?16:20
TimSNo, I don't think so.16:21
ytooxmmm16:21
ForgeAuswell you can, but it takes extra steps, and I'd recommend backing up16:21
ytooxyeah16:21
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TimSyou can?16:23
TimSSurely changing the file system requires reformating?16:23
ytooxyeah16:24
ytooxbut I thought that ubuntu would have devised some way to back up and change automatically16:24
ForgeAusactually you can convert filesystems16:24
ytooxbecause by default it does not make partitions or anything like that16:24
ytooxhow?16:24
ForgeAus(I guess its similar to reformatting)16:24
ytooxgparted?16:24
ForgeAusbut I doubt it works on the system drive without using a liveCD or something to boot from16:25
ForgeAusI'm not sure if gparted can or not, possibly...16:25
ForgeAusytoox what kind of conversion were you planning?16:25
ForgeAusext3 to something?16:26
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ubuntu_hey guys i need some help16:39
ForgeAusuh saying something like that doesn't give us any idea how to help you tho16:40
ubuntu_im instaling kubuntu i already have windows and i want to no how to configure the partitiond16:40
ubuntu_partitions16:40
ForgeAusuh does your windows partition fill the entire disk?16:40
Zxcvbare there kde 4.2.1 packages for 8.10?16:41
ubuntu_no half16:41
ubuntu_just upgrade kde16:41
ubuntu_zx16:41
ubuntu_o ne ways16:41
ForgeAusawesome then it should be easy enough to create a small swap partition and fill the rest with your ext3 one...16:41
RieshZxcvb: there are but in a PPA repository16:41
ubuntu_ok so i have 325556 mb of free space16:42
ubuntu_were do i start16:42
Zxcvbalso, is 9.04 at the RC stage yet?16:42
ubuntu_im currently on kubuntu from disk16:42
RieshZxcvb: 9.04 is just in BETA116:42
abtokhi, could someone help me having a resolution higher than 1024*768 ?16:42
ForgeAusare you on the alternate CD or a LiveCD ubuntu_?16:42
ubuntu_forgeaus16:42
ForgeAusbecause the liveCD should hsow you a graphical representation, all you need to do is select manually change partitions16:43
ForgeAusand create them, you'll get a visual look at whats going on all the time16:43
Rieshubuntu_: advicable to make a 20 GB root and the rest for /home :-)16:43
ubuntu_yeah like a ui16:43
ubuntu_and like 8g for swap???16:43
Rieshdepends on how much RAM you have, you als o can make a swap partition of 2 GB or so16:44
Zxcvbalso, has anyone managed to boot from a usb stick via floppy by using loadlin and the dos usb drivers?16:44
ForgeAusSwap doesn't need to be large... Itend to use the "leftover" from rounding down...16:44
ubuntu_i have 4 gig ram so i should double it to 8 gig swap right16:44
ForgeAusin fact you don't need swap at all but its better to use it than not to16:44
Rieshubuntu_: Noo16:44
ubuntu_i have enough space16:44
BluesKajswap should be 1.5 X RAM if needed16:44
Zxcvbubuntu_: that is no longer necessary, but swap should be at least equal to ram if you want to hibernate16:45
Riesh2 GB is enough :-)16:45
Rieshindeed16:45
Zxcvbused to be that pages could only be swapped out to certain points in the swap file16:45
ubuntu_ok so im going to create / partition should it be logical primary and what extention16:45
Rieshubuntu_: doesn't matter16:45
ubuntu_use ext316:46
ubuntu_or 216:46
RieshYes16:46
Rieshext316:46
Zxcvbfor example, if you had 128mb of ram and data at 64MB was going to be swapped out, it could only be copied to 64MB, 128+64MB, 256+64MB, etc in the swap partition/file16:46
Zxcvbfortunately, that was fixed a long time ago16:46
abtoki don't have any resolution higher than 1024*768 when i enter 'xrandr' ; is it normal ?16:47
ubuntu_ok i created all three ill see you in a little bit if install worked out16:48
cajun_quick help w/ grep.   i have a list of strings in a file, one per line and I want to use those strings as arguments.  how do i write a grep command to read one line at a time and then run a command using that string as an argument before reading the next line?16:48
ubuntu_do you think kubuntu is better then suse16:50
Rieshcajun_: i think this is more a question for another channel ... one with more bash scripting guru's ... like #bash16:50
cajun_ok.  thanks16:50
Rieshubuntu_: there is not really a better ... there are people who like one more than the other16:51
RieshEvery distro has its good and bad points16:52
ubuntu_makes sense16:53
ubuntu_i just used open suse and loved it but i figured i should give ubuntu a shot16:53
ubuntu_im new 2 linux not even a month16:53
Rieshi Like in Suse the Grub menu and yast2 ... but don't like the way it updates: when i click cancel i need to keep clicking cancel for every package :-( .. very annoying when the update is about 200 packages16:54
ubuntu_i know16:54
ubuntu_that was harsh abort ten million times hehe16:54
ubuntu_how does this work16:54
Riesh:-)16:54
ubuntu_my system is installing now hooray16:54
Rieshyes .. especially when the default update url is giving a very slow update mirror16:55
ubuntu_does this have some kind of yast16:55
BluesKaj!repositoriy | ubuntu_16:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about repositoriy16:56
Rieshubuntu_: i like to update on the command line ... it gives a lot of freedom ..16:56
BluesKaj!repository | ubuntu_16:56
ubottuubuntu_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories16:56
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RieshBluesKaj: thats not what yast is about16:56
BluesKajyast is a package manager, the repositories contain the ubuntu packages16:57
BluesKaj!adept16:57
ubottuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto16:57
RieshBluesKaj: no yast is much more then an update manager16:57
BluesKaji didn't use update16:58
ubuntu_how cani get the flaming windows and the wobble and the sphere cube desktoop is the kde 4.2 do that cause thats what i had on suse16:58
RieshYast is a central configuration tool16:58
BluesKajwho cares , this is kubuntu16:58
ubuntu_yet another software tool i think16:58
RieshBluesKaj: who cares? ... can we not see the good things in other linux distro's ?16:59
ForgeAuskde4.2 (kubuntu) does  have wobbly windows and the sphere/cube desktops17:00
BluesKajyes Riesh , if you want to visit the suse chat , be my guest :)17:00
ForgeAusalthough I havn't seen/tried the sphere one as yet...17:00
ForgeAusin fact my cube turns out to be a hexagonal shape but I like it :)17:00
RieshBluesKaj: Sorry to stepped on your toes :-(17:00
ForgeAusI tend not to use the functionality of multiple desktops efficiently, I guess I still tend to use my computer like a windows user for the most part...17:01
RieshKubuntu is perfect .. and others are less perfect17:01
ForgeAusif Kubuntu were perfect there would be no need for another version to come out...17:02
ForgeAusI'm not saying its not great or anything I love kubuntu... but I wouldn't go as far as calling it perfect, nor any other distro, or OS...17:03
BluesKajRiesh, if there is no exact yast equivalent in kubuntu then we have to stick to the p[ackage manager/repository subject that works here, not some other configuratory app in another distro.17:03
ForgeAusyou can use smart or kpackage in kubuntu it doesn't use yast/yum because of its package management system (ie non-rpm based)17:04
ForgeAusbut pretty much all other package managers that handle dpkg work...17:04
Rieshas i said before: Yast is much more then a package manager ... or update tool ... it is a central configuration software for alsmost everything that can be configured in Suse ...17:06
RieshI think that is a nice thing in Suse ...17:06
BluesKajRiesh, well I used suse for a while and i found yast klunky and not user friendly at all17:07
ForgeAusRiesh, well System Settings is KDE/Kubuntu's central configuration tool17:07
kaddithird times the charm. :) Hello everybody! :)17:08
daskreechpascal_: no sorry17:08
ForgeAusI'm sure Suse probably uses that too.. (since its part of KDE4) in kde3 used to be called kcontrol17:08
RieshMaybe some parts are indeed klunky ... but the idea is Nice ...17:08
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ForgeAusMandriva has a control/config centre too that does package management and stuff but I don't see it as a problem in Kubuntu not to have it that way...17:09
mviviritohey i got it to boot from the harddrive but now im updateing everything17:10
mviviritoriesh you still here17:10
RieshForgeAus: i also do not think it is a problem ... but i think, when it works good, it good be a good thing to have all the configurration option as modules in one app17:10
RazeQuick question: doing CLI upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10. do-release-upgrade stalled on "Calculating Changes", so I ctrl+C'd and am doing an apt-get upgrade. Will this prevent problems?17:11
Rieshmvivirito: i am here ...17:11
Razealso /etc/lsb-release has "Distrib_ID=Ubuntu" for Kubuntu normally, right?17:12
runpain2I would like to get my quickplay + voulume  keys to work on my laptop17:13
mviviritohey im confused with the boot loading process i got it to boot through recovery mode but wheni tried installing packages in the recovery mode i couldent so i chose normal boot option and i got it to boot graphicly as opposed to the command line it was booting into so now im updating and installing every thing should that fix my booting issues17:13
besitzer__hallo süße17:13
Razemvivirito: what booting issues were you having in the first place?17:14
mviviritothe first two optios were generic and generic recovery and the last option said it wouldnt fit to memory17:15
mviviritothe first17:15
mviviritogave me command line17:15
afiefdid anybody here experiment with keyboard layouts when more than one keyboard is connected? it seems only one of them can access the different layouts17:15
daskreechhi kaddi17:15
RazeAh, well. You usually want the generic/default option. It's just asking which kernel you'd like to load17:15
mviviritothe second i tried to recover but couldnt and it allowed me to boot graphicly17:15
daskreechmvivirito: pascal ?17:15
mviviritothe third said it couldnt fit to memory17:15
mviviritothe fourth was windows booted fine17:16
daskreechRaze: It ididn't stall17:16
mviviritowhats pascal17:16
daskreechit just takes a really really long time17:16
Razeah17:16
Raze:(17:16
Razewell, I cut it off and I'm apt-get upgrading :(17:16
daskreechmvivirito: There was someone in here named pascal who was having problems booting17:16
mviviritooooo17:17
Razedaskreech: can I ask what your /etc/lsb-release says?17:17
mviviritowell im updating everything and ill see if that helps17:17
mviviritowhat do you think17:17
mviviritoim just happy i have linux and windows17:17
mviviritoi only have windows for windows only software and virtual machines suck17:18
mviviritowine sucks too17:18
Razethere's always Crossover17:18
mviviritobut i have windows xp black edition17:18
mviviritoits got all the junk and extra crap removed all the security updates and its really fast17:19
mviviritowell for xp17:19
Aegironhi everyone17:21
Ra2B_04Hola...alguien que hable español?17:21
kaddi!es |Ra2B_0417:21
ubottuRa2B_04: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:21
Aegironwhen installing a version of ubuntu, it asks to create partitions to install it on, or it gives the option of automaticaly managing the drive17:22
runpain2I have an Hp Pavilion DV6747cl Amd64x2 nvidia graphics card and  MCP67 High Definition Audio [Audio device] with Altec Lansing speakers a HP Webcam [Video]and the keys are led buttons located top of keyboard17:22
AegironI noticed that when choosing the automated solution, it creates two partitions: one for the root, and one for the swap. But is there any particular reason why the swap partition is located in a seperate logical (extended) partition?17:22
runpain2can some one help me to get these keys to work17:23
mviviritoit didnt work for me that way had to do it manualy17:23
mviviritomaybe different keyboard layout17:23
daskreechRaze: No LSB Modules found17:27
daskreechAegiron: None except there is no reason at all for it to have a primary partition17:28
viktorlist17:30
Aegiron daskreech: I don't get it, If I only have 2 partitions, why is there no reason to make the swap a primary?17:31
daskreechPrimaries are limited in number and required by some17:31
daskreechLogical are virtually unlimited and never ever required17:31
daskreechWhy not use a logical if the choice is given?17:31
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Aegironah, I see. thanks a lot (though it was'nt an issue at all, just curiousity)17:33
billytwowillyhi, what should I use for scanning in kde 4? kooka doesn't appear to be supported anymore17:36
ubuntu_why i cant connect to #debiaN17:37
daskreech!register | ubuntu_17:38
ubottuubuntu_: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode17:38
ForgeAuswow I was banned from #Debian, apparnetly it didn't last17:38
ForgeAusironically I would have thought they'd be the best people to ask what compression .deb files used!17:39
daskreechMost chans that have a fair number of people coming through have limited time bans17:39
ubuntu_ok i will try to register and then i will reply17:39
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bonyuidude17:41
bonyuianyone #17:41
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bonyuii could do with some help17:42
bonyuiIs it really that hard to connect to the internet through kubuntu?17:42
bonyuibecause i cant do it17:42
afiefboubbin: what's your problem?17:42
daskreechafief: try again17:42
afiefdaskreech: huh?17:43
bonyuii just cant work out how to get online through kubunru i use wireless wlan17:43
daskreechafief: Asked the wrong person :)17:43
afiefbonyui: is your wireless card recognized17:43
daskreech!wifi | bonyui17:44
ubottubonyui: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:44
astrobearhmm, i'm not sure what happened but i can't login through kdm anymore, only through a tty screen. any suggestions?...17:44
afiefdaskreech: no problem:)17:44
daskreechafief: No. You asked the wrong person17:44
bonyuiafief i'll check17:44
daskreechastrobear: full drive ?17:44
afiefdaskreech: oh, sorry17:44
daskreech<afief> boubbin: what's your problem?17:44
astrobeardaskreech: nope, i have over 30gb available17:45
daskreechNot who you wanted to ask I'll bet17:45
afiefdaskreech: yes I see it now. sorry for the mistake17:45
daskreechastrobear: ~/.xsession-serros says anything ?17:45
alabamahitThis might be a dumb question but i have looked on that kde look site......and on the system...I'm new to  KDE ....Question is how do i changed the window border...i hate that white look lol..trying to make it more transparnet or something....17:45
daskreecherrors17:45
alabamahitAlso does it use rpm or dep files.? for just general installs.17:45
daskreechalabamahit: press alt+F3 and configure window behaviour17:46
daskreechalabamahit: huh? :)17:46
ForgeAusin KDE they're called Window Decorators17:46
ForgeAusAlabamahit and you can change them in your system-settings17:46
ForgeAus(appearance applet I think, from memory)17:47
alabamahiti cahnged all that...but didnt see where to change the decorations.17:47
* alabamahit jumps back on there and looks again :)17:47
ForgeAusapparance applet-windows should have it17:47
ForgeAusyou can switch between decoratrs, and configure different ones, and alter the buttons (like close, shade, help, minimize, maximize etc)17:48
alabamahitcan the pointer be changed?17:50
bonyuihm17:51
bonyuiubottu thanks for the wireless documentation17:51
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:51
bonyuilol17:52
bonyui@+@17:52
alabamahitlol17:52
TheGentlemanHello!  I'm experiencing problems while trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 using internet connection and following guidelines from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.0417:54
TheGentlemanif anyone can look at it I can paste something17:54
kahbuntuTheGentleman: upgrading to a beta release isn't a good idea17:56
kahbuntuit didn't work to me either17:56
TheGentlemanit is a spare computer i can safely use for that kahbuntu17:56
BluesKajTheGentleman, maybe there's help at #ubuntu+117:56
kahbuntuok, but a fresh install is the best choise17:56
TheGentlemanwell, why giving instructions on kubuntu website without a warning then?17:57
rraajjHi! I´m kinda new to KDE 4, and I´m kinda weirded out by having to press the certain keys twice to get the character mapped in them (mostly punctuation keys). They behave like modifiers. How do I remove this, uhhm, feature? Thanks in advance!17:57
daskreechTheGentleman: you have it paste binned?17:59
daskreechrraajj: in which situation ?17:59
astrobeardaskreech: http://pastebin.com/f4d314bc18:00
rraajjdaskreech: In everything, actually. ¨,´,`, and some other characters need to be pressed twice.18:00
astrobearsorry, it took me awhile to figure out how to copy and paste from tty18:01
astrobearhad to use pastebinit18:01
daskreechastrobear: TheGentleman ?18:01
daskreechrraajj: Like in kate ?18:01
rraajjdaskreech: Yep, even in Konsole/Yakuake.18:01
astrobeardaskreech: ?18:01
daskreechastrobear: sorry I just asked someone to pastebin something then they logged out shortly after18:02
daskreechrraajj: what version of KDE ?18:02
astrobearso, yeah, there are errors in xsession.errors18:03
rraajjdaskreech: 4.1, fresh Intrepid install.18:03
daskreechrraajj: well. honestly that shoudln't happen unless you haev Ctrl pressed down18:03
astrobeardaskreech: what would happen is that kdm would look like it was logging me in, but would return back to the login screen. never got to the splash screen18:04
rraajjdaskreech: Yeah, they behave like modifiers by themselves. If I press one of those keys, and press something else, a new character comes up.18:04
rraajjLike, ḿ. (´ + m)18:04
daskreechrraajj: Hmm what keyboard locale do you have?18:05
astrobearwhoops, i'll take that back, it does show the splash screen. sorry i have _just_ woken up18:06
daskreechastrobear: What happens if you type X right now18:07
rraajjdaskreech: US int´l.18:07
mack431hello i need your help with an kubuntu issue18:07
mack431today i installed patches for kubuntu18:08
mack431after i installed it my samba drive isnt working18:08
mack431i mean dolphin cant access it18:08
mack431everytime i want to swap data to my windows system through it i have to use the terminal18:09
astrobeardaskreech: fatal error Server is already active for display 018:09
mack431furthermore i get a strange failure message during system start18:09
astrobearand it is running18:09
daskreechastrobear: of course. run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop then run X18:09
daskreechmack431: What's the message ?18:10
mack431can anybody help please18:10
astrobeardaskreech: it started X18:10
mack431it is a german message that says that "kdesudo" isnt working18:11
daskreechastrobear: ok jump back to the terminal and press Ctrl+C18:11
mack431i can type it in german if you want me to do18:11
astrobear..and18:11
daskreechrun X & then export DISPLAY=:0.018:11
daskreechthen type startkde18:11
daskreechmack431: is sudo working ?18:11
astrobearso...18:11
kameshcould somebody tell me if the default Kubuntu installation comes with the C,Cpp compilers18:11
astrobearX & export DISPLAY=:0.0 & startkde18:11
astrobear?18:11
daskreechastrobear: no18:12
astrobear&&18:12
daskreechumm18:12
daskreechexport DISPLAY=:0.0 && X& && startkde18:12
mack431yes sudo works somewhere during boot of system their is a kdesudo command executed with wrong parameters i suppose so i get this message each time and my samba drive is inaccessable18:12
daskreechkamesh: No it doesn't18:13
astrobearty18:13
daskreech!compile | kamesh18:13
ubottukamesh: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)18:13
mack431through dolphin18:13
kameshthanks ubottu18:13
mack431it works with a terminal though18:13
daskreechmack431: There really shouldn't be a kdesudo on start up at all18:13
mack431hm but i get a message18:13
daskreechI'm not saying you are not :-)18:14
mack431ok18:14
daskreechmack431: Would a german channel help better?18:14
daskreech!de18:14
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.18:14
mack431yes but i dont get any answers there *g*18:14
daskreech--_^18:15
bency>.^18:15
mack431somewhere during boot a kdesudo is executed and i dont know what executes it18:15
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daskreechdmesg | grep kdes18:16
mack431i think i will reinstall soon18:16
astrobearhmm.. i can't get it to stop use ctl-c18:16
astrobearit didn't start kde18:16
astrobeardaskreech: how many ampersigns did you want me to use after 'X'?18:17
daskreechastrobear: thinking about it ... one :-)18:18
m_tadeuhow can I configure a wireless micrphone? I connected it but I have no sound18:18
daskreechastrobear: type fg then you can kill it with ctrl=C18:18
astrobeardaskreech: okay, that's what i did18:18
ns8_#spain18:18
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dinner!es18:19
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:19
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mack431i got a step ahead18:19
astrobeardasKreech: i can't kill it with ctl-c18:20
dasKreechastrobear: type jobs18:20
mack431if i start dolphin with sudo dolphin in terminal i can access my samba drive18:20
dasKreechsee if anything is runing18:20
astrobearokay18:20
mack431still strange18:20
astrobearand... :P18:20
astrobeari need some numbers so that i can kill -918:21
dasKreechastrobear: killall X18:21
astrobearno process killed18:21
astrobearX: no process killed18:21
dasKreechIs X still running?18:21
astrobearyeah, jobs showed that it was running18:22
dasKreechastrobear: kill %118:22
astrobearokay... so now what...18:22
slow-motionhi18:23
astrobearand it still isn't dead :\18:23
astrobearhi slow-motion18:23
slow-motionhi astrobear18:23
dasKreechastrobear: Ha ha ok ps aux | grep X18:24
astrobeargot it!18:24
astrobeargracias amigo18:24
astrobearit showed a number to kill -9 with :)18:24
astrobearwhatever that's called18:25
astrobearuid?..18:25
astrobeari dunno.18:25
astrobearnot important, need to figure out why i can't login with kde..18:25
dasKreechpid18:27
astrobearah, process id18:27
dasKreechastrobear: make a new user18:27
astrobeardasKreech: i have to leave for 5 minutes, but if you can give me further instructions i will use them when i get back18:28
dasKreechok18:28
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dasKreechmack431: this is going to a Windows computer across the network?18:35
mack431yeah18:35
magisuHi guys, I come here to ask if Qt 4.5 qtconfig-qt4 can save the font substitution list?18:35
magisuanyone could hep me? thansk18:35
dasKreech!anyone18:35
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?18:35
dasKreechmagisu: If it's a pure Qt question there is #qt18:36
mack431i think i will reinstall the system cause i cant find the failing thing18:36
magisudasKreech: I don´t know.18:37
dasKreechmack431: you can if you like. do you have your data seperate ?18:37
mack431yes its all saved what is important18:37
dasKreechmack431: sounds like a configuration file needs to be replaced but if you would like to reinstall that ight work as well :)18:38
jimmy51_homehello, i have a drive, /dev/sdc18:39
jimmy51_homewhat command do i use to create and format it as fat32?18:39
mack431do you have an idea what configuration file this could be?18:39
dasKreechmkfs.dos ?18:39
mack431the smb.cnf is fine i checked it18:39
dasKreechmack431: it would be a smb:/ protocol in ~/.kde since the only thing that doesn't work is kde apps18:40
astrobeardasKreech: i'm back18:40
dasKreechand only for your user18:40
mack431what does this configuration file do?18:40
dasKreechastrobear: ok18:40
astrobearwhat do you want me to do after creating a new user?18:40
dasKreechsudo /etc/init.d/kdm start and log in as them18:40
lean2501hi! im getting the libstdc++.5 or something like that message in the terminal when im trying to open an app18:41
lean2501i dont find it in the repos18:42
jimmy51_homedasKreech: doesn't look like that's a command18:42
dasKreechjimmy51_home: umm mkfs.msdos ?18:42
dasKreechlean2501: which app?18:43
astrobearack, i don't know how to give root privs to the user18:43
lean2501x-lite18:43
astrobearthe new user18:43
lean2501dasKreech: x-lite is an app for voip18:44
jimmy51_homei'm trying sudo mkfs.msdos -I -F 32 /dev/sdc18:44
astrobearcould this overall problem have arisen because i don't have proper user rights?18:44
dasKreechastrobear: not from the error messages18:44
dasKreechastrobear: add them to the group admin18:44
lean2501dasKreech: it says error when loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.518:44
jimmy51_homeok18:47
jimmy51_homei have /dev/sdc18:47
jimmy51_homeit's a 500 GB USB drive18:47
jimmy51_homeqtparted shows it as hidden18:47
jimmy51_homefrom the command line, how to i create a giant FAT32 partition on it, and format it?18:48
jimmy51_homei tried "mkfs.msdos -I -F 32 /dev/sdc"18:48
jimmy51_homethat didn't appear to do anything18:48
dasKreechsudo18:48
jimmy51_homewell, yeah... i used sudo18:49
dasKreechFAT32 can't make a partition that big18:49
dasKreechIt has limitations18:49
jimmy51_homecan kubuntu write to ntfs?18:49
dasKreechYes18:49
jimmy51_homeok, ntfs is good then18:49
dasKreech!ntfs18:49
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE18:49
manuel_hi18:50
manuel_in the networkmanager i can't klick on wlan it is not active18:51
manuel_how can i change that?18:51
manuel_thamks in advance18:51
josh-lis there anything other than inkscape that can edit svg files?18:53
manuel_gimp18:53
m_tadeushould a microphone output the sound desktop wide? or do I have to run some sort of app to hear the microphone?18:53
josh-lmanuel_: but with gimp you cant save to svg18:53
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astrobearalright dasKreech i added a user, gave him admin privs, started kdm, tried to login and the same thing happened18:55
starenkahi, is there a repo for hardy (kde 3.5) w/ all that fancy kde 4.2.1 stuff ( i want to have kontact,kmail,akregator and all that "gorupware stuff", but don't wanna use kde4)18:56
mario_atun de pollo18:56
astrobearstarenka: all that groupware stuff is on kde 3.5 :P18:56
astrobearno need for kde 418:56
starenkayes, but slightly older versions ;)18:57
mario_i dont know18:57
astrobearthough kde 4 is amazing in my not so humble opinion18:57
josh-lastrobear: it truly truly is, better than osx by far18:57
starenkaastrobear: well i tested i qui9te thoroughfully and i love 3.5 more18:57
afiefdid anybody here experiment with keyboard layouts when more than one keyboard is connected? it seems only one of them can access the different layouts18:57
astrobear:P18:57
josh-li find kde 4.2 more stable than kde 3.518:58
josh-land better in every other way18:58
starenkawell stability issues aside, there are still some stuff you can't customize in kde 418:58
starenkaf.e the damn taskbar18:58
astrobeari'm not going to argue why kde 4 is better, just want to get my X error resolved :P18:58
starenkaor panel18:58
starenkai mean panel18:58
josh-li love the panel18:58
astrobearstarenka: you can customize the taskbar, silly18:59
starenkado i?18:59
astrobearstarenka: yup, you just need to familiarize yourself with plasma18:59
starenkai want able to make it like this (kde 3.5)19:00
starenkahttp://crap.starenka.net/35.png19:00
jimmy51_homesomeone in #ubuntu knew how to do it19:00
starenkas/want/wasnt19:00
jimmy51_homesweet19:00
astrobearstarenka: i can't view that right now, my X server isn't working :)19:01
starenkaastrobear: hehe19:01
starenkaimagine it's beutiful :)19:02
astrobearnot sure what i did, and i think dasKreech is off eating dinner and chillaxin19:02
starenkawhat's w/ ur x server?19:02
astrobeari dunno19:02
starenkastartx?19:02
astrobearyeah yeah, the problem is that kdm isn't logging the user all the way in before getting some X error and returning back to the login screen19:03
astrobeari can start X, but i can't start kde19:03
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astrobearwhich is a tidbit of a problem :)19:03
starenka3.5 3.5 high five :)) :p19:03
starenka</tease>19:03
starenkasorry, mate i can't seem to help you19:04
starenka:(19:04
astrobearhehe, it's not kde's fault, i did something stupid last night i'm sure :P19:04
astrobearno probs19:04
astrobearyou let me explain it and maybe someone else here will come along with a solution19:04
starenkaok19:05
starenkai will tease the plazma meanwhile19:05
starenkaas to be sure i'm not idiot19:05
astrobear:)19:05
BluesKajastrobear, do the 3 finger salute  to reboot , then choose recovery from the grub menu , then you'll ahve dialog menu in minute , choose "fix broken pkges" , I had the same problem this morning ..incomplete install> I have everything working fairly well now.19:05
astrobearBluesKaj: aaaahhh!19:06
astrobeari did update packages last night for the first time in forever19:06
astrobearthat's probably the problem19:06
BluesKajyup, same as me19:06
astrobearBluesKaj: but can't i 'fix broken packages' without having to reboot?19:07
* astrobear thinks so19:07
BluesKajyou need to boot in the recovery mode19:07
astrobeari suppose19:08
bokeyi need the widget that shows the content of $HOME/Desktop19:08
astrobeari don't know of any other way to fix them19:08
astrobearbrb19:08
bokeyi accidently deleted it19:08
bokeyi need the widget that shows the content of $HOME/Desktop19:09
bokeyi need the widget that shows the content of $HOME/Desktop19:09
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* bokey sigh19:10
anw_how can I change hardware sound output ?19:11
mack431bokey you could use dolphin go to home and add it new19:12
BluesKajbokey , right click on the panel add widgets19:12
bokeymack431: hang on19:13
bokeyBluesKaj: yeah19:13
BluesKajbokey , choose quick access19:13
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bokeyBluesKaj: thats not it19:13
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bokeymack431: sorry mate19:14
bokeymack431: i am in $HOME19:14
mack431hm okay19:14
mack431do you use kde or gnome?19:14
bokeykde19:14
BluesKajbokey , panel options/add widgets/quick access19:15
bokeythe desktop showed up when i logged in the first time19:15
starenkahanlerchief19:15
mack431why dont you start up dolphin19:15
starenka*hankerchief19:15
bokeyyeah19:15
cerecitasevening... been all day long struggling with this.. i cannot add widgets... sometimes it just wont add them even tho they are marked to, some others the whole plasma stops responding and i need to restart x  because only alt+tab works, yet i can see everything... any ideas?19:15
bokeyi need one19:15
mack431go to home and right click desktop19:15
mack431than add it19:15
astrobearthat didn't work19:15
astrobearand... i could have done all that from the cli :P19:15
astrobearit just removed partial packages and a few apt-get commands19:16
astrobearperformed a few apt-get commands *19:16
starenkais there somewhere kde 4.21 repo for hardy?19:16
astrobearstarenka: i don't know, but the latest kde from svn has some nice improvements indeed19:16
BluesKajsry to hear that astrobear19:16
astrobearnp19:16
bokeymack431: i am in dolphin bud19:17
starenkaastrobear: i prefer packages19:17
bokeycan anyone tell me how to show the damn desktop widget (that lists the contents of $HOME in my desktop?19:18
cerecitasgo to add widgets and i will tell you the precise widget name19:18
BluesKaj!patience | bokey19:18
ubottubokey: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines19:18
cerecitasin a second19:18
bokeycerecitas: i am there19:18
cerecitasbut yeah be patient19:18
cerecitasbokey:  you need to add the widget called folderview19:18
cerecitasand it will show /home19:18
cerecitasthen, on settings just mark the path to /home/Desktop19:19
bokeycerecitas: damn all done19:19
bokeythanks heaps19:19
bokey:D19:19
bokeyg'day to ya all19:19
starenkagreen day indeed :)19:19
cerecitasis today widget's day? i'm having the time of my life with mines19:19
starenkawhat's a widget19:20
starenka:))19:20
bonyuiwhats widget day?19:21
bonyuiO>19:21
cerecitasjust joking bonyui looks like lots of people is having probs with them today19:21
bonyuioh lol19:21
jismaelgfook19:25
astrobearokay the problem was the x config :\19:31
vnwarriorguys.. i'm going to install KDE 4.2 for the first time - I heard Firefox looks crappy without Gnome - is that true?19:31
cerecitasi use opera... but vnwarrior it is all up to how you theme19:32
cerecitasi mean which theme you use19:32
astrobearvnwarrior: no.19:32
cerecitasthere are themes like noia really kdeish19:32
vnwarriorcerecitas: how should I theme? I use firefox exclusively..19:33
astrobearit's not the theme19:33
vnwarriorastrobear: ?19:33
astrobearthe kde style is used in gtk apps by default19:33
cerecitasvnwarrior:  in firefox you can select the skins somewhere... i personally don't like it's looks19:33
astrobeardon't worry about the skins19:34
astrobearin system settings > appearance > gtk styles and fonts, the "use my KDE style in GTK applications" option should already be selected19:34
vnwarriorastrobear: oh ok...19:35
tcmhow do I invite someone to watch my webcam? I can't find any buttons to press. The webcam is working in skype19:36
tcmin kopete19:36
astrobeartcm: you have to tell them that you are a young blonde willing to do anything19:38
tcmastrobear: they already know that I am one. How do I start the "conversation"?19:40
astrobeartcm: have you checked settings > configure > video?19:40
tcmastrobear: everything is setuped I just can't find how to start the cam19:41
tcmhave no button19:41
tcmlike in skype19:41
astrobearhmm, what service are you using?19:42
tcmwlm19:42
astrobearhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-248159.html19:45
astrobearhttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16112319:45
astrobearmaybe those two links can help you wlm19:45
* astrobear is away for a moment, need to reconfigure my x server19:45
JDahlI am trying to add a custom application launcher in KDE4.2. How do I do that that?  I found the Quicklauncher applet,  but I don't see how to configure its embedded applications19:48
josh-lanyone know how to turn off time stamp and join/part messages in quassel?19:49
wallabeeim having trouble booting up kubuntu on my toshiba laptop. its been installed and working fine for over a year and now i get a GRUB error when in the GRUB loading stage. Its GRUB 1.5 and i get GRUB error 18. Any suggestions?19:51
shock_day13hey everyone19:52
wallabeeive heard about utility disks like testgrub and super grub disk but am not familiar with them. is there a standard utility i could possibly use to fix the problem?19:53
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shock_day13does anyone know if there is a software in which we could design our own themes, or icons and stuff19:53
heinkel_111wallabe do you keep getting that error over and over... i have a toshiba too and it happens once a while but i just reboot and nothing in particular seem to be wrong20:04
heinkel_111so possibly not fatal20:05
rraajjHi! I have this weird problem (on a fresh Intrepid install). Some keys need to be pressed twice to get their actual characters, or else they act as some sort of ¨modifier¨ keys. For example, the key ´ needs to be pressed twice so that I could actually get ´. :(20:08
marlonsup20:10
marlonanyone know some websites20:11
Psychoholichello i'm having some problems with my kubuntu rig every time i boot i get to the splash screen and it says out of range and displays nothing is there a way to enter into a "safe mode"?20:11
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mmmarcusok20:11
mmmarcuslollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll20:12
* genii sips his coffee20:12
Psychoholicwhat kind of web sites are you looking for?20:12
mmmarcushow u do that20:12
* bonyui sips his tea20:12
mmmarcusmutiplayer20:13
Psychoholicemote20:13
mmmarcus*emote20:13
Psychoholicwhat something you just play like java? or something you down load20:13
mmmarcusyeah java20:13
mmmarcusknow any20:14
Psychoholicplaneshift is preaty cool but you have to download20:14
Psychoholicthats about all i know20:14
mmmarcusany more20:14
mmmarcusthz20:14
bonyuihmm guys im starting to worry20:15
bonyuialot of people have had trouble connected to the internet throigh kubuntu on wlan20:16
bonyuiso it seems on the internet.20:16
bonyuiwill any usb card work?20:16
bonyuiOr does ithave to be a certain one :X20:16
bonyuiI dunno20:16
astrobearw00t, issued is settled20:16
Psychoholici know my wifes kubuntu rig has been giving us fits lots in the last month and my rig runs suse 11.1 and its looking lots and lots better every day..20:17
anw_[optimistic question] is there any emulator like VirtualBox which supports Direct3D ?? :)20:18
mmmarcuswhat i miss20:19
weedaranw_: I think VMWare might support D3D20:20
bonyuihi JohnLesbergtion20:21
bonyuiwelcome20:21
JohnLesbergtionhello all20:22
JohnLesbergtionhello bonyui20:22
JohnLesbergtion:P20:22
JohnLesbergtion?20:22
JohnLesbergtionPuddle?20:22
bonyuishsuh20:22
bonyuiPuddle?20:22
bonyuiwtf20:22
bonyui><20:23
mmmarcus^_^20:23
mmmarcus><20:25
mmmarcusif20:26
mmmarcuswath20:28
Ch1ppyHey, usually dolphin will show my extra mounted drives in the Places bar, which is very convenient. However this is currently not showing at all... Is there any way to view the same list at all?20:30
Ch1ppyGnome file explorers (going open in gtk apps) seem to show it, but the same thing from kde doesn't...20:31
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anw_how can I ... how to say it ... add app to "start up" ?20:32
JohnLesbergtionirc.ddos.com20:32
JohnLesbergtion:P20:32
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bonyuithank god20:35
bonyuifewwwwwwwwwwww]20:35
JohnLesbergtion-bonyui == puddle20:36
* anw_ asks, how can he make start application automatically when he logs into system20:36
JohnLesbergtion|| DDOS HIM || NOW NOW NOW20:36
JohnLesbergtion:P20:36
JohnLesbergtionlol20:36
genii!startup | anw_20:37
ubottuanw_: To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot20:37
JohnLesbergtion!startup | gay_20:38
ubottugay_: To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot20:38
JohnLesbergtionlol20:38
anw_thanks .. (:20:38
JohnLesbergtionLOL20:38
josh-lanyone know if there is a konversation kde4 for kubuntu packaged?20:39
bonyuieww JohnLesbergtion theres a #mac channel here20:39
erossMy screen goes blank after so many minutes and i have to hit a key to get it back, i looked at power management and it's not checked, i looked at screensaver and it's not checked. what gives?20:42
KomiaPoikahi20:45
KomiaPoikahow to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, but leaving kde3 in place?20:45
LjLKomiaPoika: i don't think you can...20:45
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* dsmith_ still does not like kde4 even with the new BETA21:03
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Dillizarhow can i change the log in picture on kde 3.5.1021:04
casa#brasil21:06
diablohello room21:06
bonyuicasa go away theres a time and a place21:07
bonyuiand this is the place for learning about linux my freinds21:07
bonyui:)21:07
diabloanyone having problems with the sound on ubuntu21:08
nightdreverhello...does anyone know why my webcam doesnt work on skype?.....it works on ekiga but not skype?21:08
Dillizardiablo: explain21:09
nightdreverit also works on windows skype but not ubuntu?21:09
Dillizarnightdrever: lol 8.10 :D21:09
Dillizar??21:09
nightdrever??21:09
Dillizaryou are using 8.1021:09
nightdreveryes21:10
Dillizarnightdrever: i am trying to fix it since 2008 1st of may21:11
Dillizar:D21:11
diablook i just re-installed ubunto 8.10 and completely wiped xp on my acer aspire one d150 and havent had sound i tried just about everything my sound works only on my headphones :(21:11
Dillizarand i found how to fix it21:11
Dillizarit was fucking easy21:11
sourcemakerare there 9.04 users?21:11
nightdreverhow?21:11
Dillizarsourcemaker: !ubuntu+121:11
Dillizarnightdrever: go to the kubuntu web site21:11
Dillizarand download21:12
Dillizar8.0421:12
sourcemakerDillizar: ok21:12
Dillizarthe only ubun tu that works good21:12
Dillizarsourcemaker: #ubuntu+121:12
Dillizarbrb21:12
mnihi all21:14
mnican somebody help me how to generate HTTP encoded password for SVN server using kubuntu?21:15
Dragnslcrmni- I believe you'd use htpasswd21:16
mnidrgnsclr:procedure pls21:17
ShinyLegoEllo21:17
ShinyLegoI'm in a bit of a spot of trouble.21:18
ShinyLegoI having problems logging in after installing Kubuntu 9.04 beta.  The Login screen comes up and I type everything in and then it goes black for a few seconds then goes straight back to the login screen.  So, whats qrong with it?21:18
p_quarles!jaunty | ShinyLego21:18
ubottuShinyLego: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.21:18
ShinyLegoNo you see, its KUBUNTU not ubuntu21:19
tsimpsonShinyLego: #ubuntu+1 is for both21:19
ShinyLegowell, well.  U suck on dicks anyway21:21
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DragnslcrCan someone with a relatively clean install of 8.10 do "echo $TERM" in Konsole and tell me what they get?21:37
p_quarlesDragnslcr: it's xterm; why?21:41
DragnslcrHm, thanks21:41
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* irunongames is away: Gone away for now21:46
DragnslcrOkay, that works. Now to find where to change it permanently21:46
Dragnslcrp_quarles- any idea where that's usually set? If I don't have an explicit export line in a bashrc file, I get "dumb"21:53
p_quarlesDragnslcr: update-alternatives, I believe21:55
[oC]_HolyFatherI have a Power Mac G4 and I want to install Kubuntu on it ------ I downloaded both 6.10(Edgy Eft) and 7.10(Gutsy) PPC versions and all atempts to install failed --- How do I get it to install properly?21:59
Dragnslcrp_quarles- if it is, I don't see exactly what option it is22:01
DragnslcrPutting export TERM='xterm' in /etc/bash.bashrc seems to work well enough22:03
[oC]_HolyFatherwould anyone know the answer to my question?22:05
lovrehi all22:05
[oC]_HolyFatherthere are a few things to be entered22:05
[oC]_HolyFather'live' being the default command22:05
lovreWUBI installation cant load since windows was shut down improperly, not even when restarting properly.  What to do?22:06
[oC]_HolyFatherthere is also 'live-powerpc', live video=ofonly', etc etc22:06
ronny_como estas22:09
lovredoes Amarok 2 support skins?22:16
DarthFrog_I officially hate Jaunty.22:16
DarthFrog_Damn thing doesn't work.22:16
geniiDarthFrog_: Thats usually why I stay with LTS versions.22:17
ikoniaworldwariii: I asked you not to pm people - please stop22:17
DarthFrog_genii: :-)  But that's boring.  Things work in LTS.22:17
xjjkDarthFrog_: what's wrong with it?22:17
xjjkI'm pretty happy with Jaunty so far... everything just *works*22:17
DarthFrog_xjjk: It doesn't respond to mouse clicks most of the time.22:17
xjjkit's the first Ubuntu in a while that has worked this well22:18
xjjkDarthFrog_: mmm22:18
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macodd anyone else get a PM from worldwariii?22:18
macooh wait22:18
macoi see ikonia's message22:18
DarthFrog_Oh, and VMWare doesn't work anymore, either.22:18
xjjkDarthFrog_: the kernel may be too new... it's one reason why I stopped using VMWare22:18
xjjkVirtualBox is faster and seems better supported on Linux22:19
macoLjL: thanks22:19
DarthFrog_xjjk: I'm not blaming Jaunty for VMWare not working.22:19
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JohnLesbergtionWindows users: irc.gaysex.com22:26
JohnLesbergtionthat is for all thoose windows noobs22:26
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josh-lanyone know what the internal extender container widget , and the Activity Bar widgets do?22:29
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sghelllllllllllloooooo22:33
sgis somone actif'22:35
p_quarles!ask | sg22:35
ubottusg: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:35
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gorgonzolahello. I just updated to jaunty on a clean intrepid install, but i'm getting thi error:22:40
gorgonzola[ 1375.804551] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen22:40
gorgonzola[ 1375.804566] ata1.00: cmd ea/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 022:40
gorgonzola[ 1375.804568] res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout)22:40
gorgonzola[ 1375.804574] ata1.00: status: { DRDY }22:40
gorgonzolaDoes anyone know here how can i determine if this a faulty driver or BIOS setting, or the drive is dying?22:40
gorgonzolaany help in reading smartctl output would be really apreciated... :)22:41
dereineis this a known "bug" that in 9.04 the xorg server needs 20% cpu everytime?22:43
tsimpson9.04 support is only in #ubuntu+122:44
bonyuihow do i log on as root?22:46
bonyui??22:46
tsimpsondon't22:46
tsimpson!sudo22:46
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)22:46
bonyuiwhy?22:46
bonyuiwhat will it do tsimpson?22:46
gorgonzolabonyui: as per ubuntu security police, ytou shuld not22:46
tsimpsonbecause there is no need to "login" as root, use sudo to gain super user privileges22:46
bonyuioh ok22:46
gorgonzolabonyui: you can, howevere, run sudo bash to get a root prompt22:46
tsimpsonno, use "sudo -i"22:46
tsimpsonor "sudo -s"22:46
bonyuigorgonzola its just my freind22:46
tsimpsonsudo bash will mess up22:46
bonyuishowed me some commands22:47
bonyuithat could get me online :X22:47
bonyuiSupposedly22:47
gorgonzolatsimpson: ah, didn't know that, care to developp?22:47
bonyuiim neveer gonna get online :(22:47
tsimpsongorgonizer: when you run bash (not from login) it inherits it's environment from the running shell. so $HOME will be the uses home, which can get written to as root22:48
tsimpsonusing "sudo -i" runs the shell as a login shell for the user, so no environment mixup22:48
geniimakes things like .bashrc and .bash_history inpossible for the regular user to use again without reverting it's ownership back22:49
gorgonzolatsimpson: ah, ok... i tyhought it could be something more terribler, like root inheriting some $USER settings... i'll be careful with it, though. and by the way, i'm not gorgonizer, he is another dude i've seen sometimes around here :)22:49
tsimpsongoalador: it would do that too, as $HOME/<any config> will be the users22:50
tsimpsonerm, gorgonzola22:50
tsimpsontoo many tabs...22:50
* irunongames is back.22:50
p_quarlesbonyui: you can run those same commands, just using sudo instead of logging in as root22:50
tsimpsonirunongames: please disable that away/back message22:51
bonyuilol tsimpson22:51
irunongamessorry22:51
tsimpsonfor GUI applications, use kdesudo though22:51
qwoodkubu irc n00b here, where r the faqs? so i dont spam ppl.22:51
bonyuiSome cards may not work automatically with Ubuntu. If this is the case, please look at the Wireless Troubleshooting Guide on the Ubuntu Wiki which is an excellent resource for troubleshooting wireless cards.22:52
bonyuiIf your wireless card does not work with Ubuntu, you may have to do some research in order to activate it. A relatively reliable way of getting a wireless card to work is to use the ndiswrapper tool which allows Ubuntu to use the Microsoft Windows driver for the wireless card. To do this, follow the instructions below in the section called “Windows Wireless Drivers”.22:52
p_quarlesqwood: it's in the topic22:52
bonyuido yiu think thats my problem?22:52
bonyuiThe card?22:53
kaddi!faq22:53
ubottuA list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage22:53
qwood@p_quarles thnx22:53
bonyuii think im going to switch to windows wireless driver.22:54
bonyui:P22:54
gorgonzolaok, i'll ask mine again: any help here on how to detrermine if one of my drives is dying?22:55
gorgonzolai'm getting a lot of ata errors on boot and at runtime and i want to know if i'll have to dith this laptop :(22:55
jussi01!fsck | gorgonzola22:56
ubottugorgonzola: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot22:56
cherylHi, could someone help me with running a program from terminal please?22:56
jussi01!ask | cheryl22:57
ubottucheryl: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:57
cherylHow do I change directory at command prompt level?22:57
cristiancd directory22:58
cristiancd <directory>22:58
cherylcristian: I keep getting no such file or directory.22:59
bonyuihas anyone got any useful links that may help me to get connected through via wlan wireless?22:59
cristiantry22:59
bonyuineed helpp bad22:59
cristiando an ls23:00
cherylcristian: My terminal opens at "cheryl@cheryl -desktop:~$23:00
kaddicheryl where do you want to go?23:00
cristiancd ..23:00
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cristianand with that u go up one lvl in the directory23:00
bonyui!fq23:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fq23:00
cprgmswr2Hi23:00
cherylcristian: I want to be in cheryl\documents\games\internet scrabble club23:00
cristianin linux is with /23:01
cristiannot \23:01
cristianthat for windows23:01
jussi01!tab23:01
ubottuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.23:01
cprgmswr2I am tring to get a dvd to play in kde4 but it keeps complaining about libdvdread4 missing23:01
cprgmswr2it says thet libdvdread4 is there23:01
cherylokay23:01
cprgmswr2this is with intrepid23:01
cherylcristian: So how do I do this, brains?23:02
jussi01cheryl: remember linux is CAse sensitive23:02
cheryljussi01: Thank you. :)23:02
cristianfirst .. do this: ls23:02
cristianin your promt23:02
jussi01cheryl: try cd Docu<tab>23:02
cheryljussi01: Didn't work! Just beeped!23:03
cristiancheryl: with "ls" command you see what diroctory r in the actual directory23:03
cherylcristian: ls did somming, now wot23:03
cristiansay to me .. someone23:04
cristianthe color of directories are blue23:04
cherylcristian: So the one that is highlighted green is the one I'm in?23:04
cristiandirectories r blue23:05
cherylcristian: but one is highlighted in green23:05
cristianif you want to go ... Documents..23:05
cprgmswr2btw, this is really awsome running kde4 on my labtop23:05
cristiangreen is for packages23:05
lovrecan someone help with printer driver installation, i dont understand this. I downloaded a driver, and typed make install, and it copied a file to /usr/bin/lbp660...... i dont know what to do next? How do i use this driver??23:06
cristiancheryl: tray: cd Documents23:06
cherylcristian: They're all blue, but documents has a green block over it.23:06
david__I just did an update to Kubuntu, and Firefox is broken. Is this a known bug?23:07
cherylcristian: Was that meant to be try or tray?23:07
cprgmswr2I am running firefox just fine23:07
cristian*try23:07
cristianlol23:08
david__with the latest update? A new version came out this morning.23:08
david__I'm on the bleeding edge release.23:08
cherylcristian: no such file or dir! :(23:08
* cheryl dresses david__'s open wound.23:08
cherylcristian: I give up hon!! I will grill my ex's brains on Mon!23:09
david__Nothing else seems broken. Opera is running just fine.23:09
kaddicheryl: can you open that folder with say konqueror? could you give us the address, that is shown in the adressbar of konqueror23:09
cristiancheryl:  i dont know whats going on with your console xD23:10
gorgonzolacheryl: copy the ouput of "pwd", please23:12
kaddigorgonzola thx, was looking for that command myself :D23:12
cristiancheryl: in the console u see something like: cheryl@ubuntu:~$ ???23:13
cherylcrist23:13
cristianyes?23:13
cherylcristian: Sorry my visitor arrived! lol23:14
gorgonzola...23:14
cristianlol23:14
cristiananyway... someone have an ATI? it works good with the 3d cube?23:15
cherylcristian: Will come back online 'n sort this at another time, sorry I have company! :)23:15
lovrehow do i know if im using CUPS or something else?23:19
DragnslcrUnless you installed something to specifically replace CUPS, that's what you'd be using23:20
DragnslcrI don't even know of anything to replace it, unless there's some manufacturer-specific software23:20
Tinason-personally, 9.04 b1 is running better than 8.10 ever did. very stable,  nice performance. good release, especially for a beta23:22
Tinason-...though i fail to see why quassel needed to be included23:22
robhello.23:23
kaddi!hi|rob23:23
ubotturob: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!23:23
robjust loaded kubuntu...very new23:24
robhow would you load a 3rd party software application23:24
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kaddirob you would probably go looking for either an ubuntu package or a debian package on their site and download it to your PC. (unless somebody knows a better way ;) )23:26
kaddiwhat do you want install?23:27
robraptor programming software23:28
robi have been reviewing forums however can not find a good source23:30
p_quarlesrob: you mean this? http://raptor.martincarlisle.com/23:33
kaddithings just keep crashing on me tongiht o.o23:33
kaddirob: the protein modelling software?23:33
kadditheir website seems to have a "linuxversion", that should probably install fine with ubuntu23:34
lovrecan i get some help with printer installation,i added a printer with cups, but i cant print, i am getting this error: "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"23:34
robyes that looks to be it23:34
GentooJohnnyhas anyone here ever networked two kubuntu pc's together through a router.23:34
p_quarlesrob: which? my link or kaddi's idea?23:34
EvaLuaTehello23:35
EvaLuaTei can't find opera anywhere in the repository, isn't it available in kubuntu 8.10?23:36
robyours.23:36
robp quarles23:36
p_quarlesrob: okay, well, that program is written for Windows in .NET 2.0; that will not run natively in anything besides Windows23:36
p_quarlesrob: you can try running it in Wine; failing that, you will need Windows23:37
robok. so I am out of luck23:37
p_quarleswell, I would give Wine a try; I've had luck with other .NET 2.0 apps23:37
robyea...I have windows xp but trying to get away from that....I just created a dual boot system this past weekend23:37
roband trying to learn this platform23:38
geniiEvaLuaTe: It's proprietary. Maybe take a look here for how to install it http://my.opera.com/suribe/blog/2008/11/04/how-to-install-opera-9-62-on-ubuntu-8-10-plugins23:38
demongood for ya ya rob :)23:38
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Dragnslcrrob- if it's .Net 2.0, there's a slim chance it'll run on mono23:39
EvaLuaTegenii: ok, thanks23:39
geniiEvaLuaTe: np23:39
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Dillizarwow kde on debian looks like a mix of kde and xfce23:41
Dillizar:)23:41
robstill looking at a few things here23:41
Dillizar!ask | rob23:42
ubotturob: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:42
lovrewhere do i find the file restartcups.sh'23:44
p_quarleslovre: sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart23:46
geniimight be cupsys23:47
lovrep_quarles: ty23:47
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heavenmetalHello, I'm trying to install Kubuntu 7.10 from amd64 CD -downloaded via bittorrent- so I booted from CD and get to Kubuntu's splash screen but after hitting "Start or install Kubuntu" and seeing the brief "Loading Linux Kernel...100%" window/status-bar the screen goes to "kernel alive" love23:48
heavenmetallock*23:48
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ymlhello good evining23:51
ymlI have just downloaded the live cd 9.04 of kubuntu23:52
Dragnslcrheavenmetal- any particular reason you're using a version that old?23:52
ymland so far I am pleased of what I see23:52
ymlhow ever on my laptop samsung x10 the screen is blinking23:53
ymlI guess it is due to the fact that my default it is not using the nvidia driver23:53
ymlthe thing which is a bit strange is that I cannot run "Hardware Drivers"23:55
ymlthe application is starting but no window pop up23:55
heavenmetalDragnslcr: I'm going to install LinuxMCE over it23:57
heavenmetalat the moment, 7.10 is the newest supported23:57

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