[00:00] frogonwheels: thanks [00:01] guest did you work it out? [00:02] phoenixz_ Possibly not then. I've got 4.2 on 8.10, following the instructions. don't know if it applies to 9.04 [00:02] frogonwheels: nope I thought it was 4.2 its only 4.0 im gonna upgrade and go from there [00:02] back from work, still no usb :( [00:03] guest cool. [00:05] ok, is there any proto that is supported by kaffeine, dragonplayer, etc. etc. that allows me to play files on a remote network share? [00:06] where I can just click a file and have it play, without transferring the entire thing to the local drive's /tmp? [00:06] it's just a wild guess but shouldn't vlc that? [00:07] kaddi: nope. copies the file instead. [00:17] if you're using intrepid and the last repository someone has for something is hardy [00:18] it should still work, right??? [00:18] its possible babylonsfury [00:18] it might not though [00:18] dependacy prroblems [00:18] and if your using apt to install them, it might try to downgrade stuff - possibly [00:18] very risky using 3rd party repos; more so when they are different versions [00:19] but for the odd .deb file its usually ok. [00:19] cool, trying to get my usb to work [00:20] babylonsfury, usb? [00:20] not working, at all [00:21] not the mouse, not the keyboard [00:21] not the sound, not the printer, nothing [00:21] tried them all at once, and tried everything but the printer solo [00:21] which repo are you talking about? [00:21] is this a usb hub? or bluetooth? [00:22] pure usb, off the back ports of the computer [00:25] shouldn't usb ports 'just work' [00:25] dont know how a repo will fix that [00:25] they do work in grub [00:25] but the second the kernel loads [00:25] its gone [00:26] no repo was to fix my printer driver [00:26] wireless keyboard? bluetooth? [00:26] someone made an open source printer driver, but last repo they have is hardy [00:26] its a normal, plug in, usb keyboard [00:26] and normal plug it in, usb mouse [00:27] usb headset, and usb printer [00:27] the ports themselves, are dead, no power [00:27] sounds like a bad port [00:27] nope [00:27] works fine off of a jaunty live cd [00:27] jaunty live cd? usb works like a charm [00:27] switch back to my intrepid install, gone [00:27] and it worked in XP and vista :( [00:27] its just intrepid that it's shot in, and not sure why [00:28] installing kubuntu beta... [00:28] tried the intrepid live cd, and its just as bad [00:28] see you later :P [00:29] just to make sure I didn't bork my own install lol [00:29] hi guys [00:30] so currently running just keyboard, no mouse [00:30] i have a problem with my bluetooth [00:30] I had an old serial (RS232) keyboard [00:31] and I have an rs232 port, no PS/2 ports though :( [00:31] I have a serial, rs 232 mouse too, but only one port, figured I was better off with the keyboard than mouse! [00:31] some body help me please [00:32] but I have 0 understanding of the linux usb controllers [00:33] what package controls the usb in kubuntu? [00:34] or is that part of the kernel? if its just a package, can I update just that one, to the current jaunty package, which does work? [00:34] ok why does my taskbar manager thing keep glitching??? grrr this is annoying i keep having to kill and then restart plasma [00:35] yowshi- what version of KDE? [00:35] any ubuntu guru's out there know? [00:36] Dragnslcr: not entirely sure how do i cjeck? [00:36] check [00:37] Help -> About KDE in any KDE4 apps (Konversation isn't) [00:37] Dragnslcr: but considering that i have only been using kde for a month or so i would say the latest version you can get on a 64bit system [00:37] K Menu -> Help will open up the system help, then Help -> About KDE there [00:37] i dont use konversation i use pidgin [00:38] 4.2.00 [00:40] I dunno then. I haven't had plasma crash on me in 4.2 [00:40] the glitch doesnt start out that major just lines over the window titles but i have seen it alot and it progresses to the point where the window i click on isnt the window that winds up selected [00:40] then i have to kill plasma and restart it to get it to function right === peterbuldge is now known as harolddong === peterbuldge is now known as harolddong [00:58] hello! does kubuntu have an usb-creator on the livecd? if not, can i simply apt-get install usb-creator? and will this usb-creator create an Ubuntu usb, or a Kubuntu usb? Thanks so much! [01:04] supposedly you can set up kmplayer to use the xine backend. how would I go about doing this? I have xine installed, but as far as I can tell, the only options are phonom and mplayer [01:06] babylonsfury, it should be in the kernel [01:09] Konqueror in Hardy crashes when I move files between directories (sometimes) but there do not seem to be any -dbg packages for it. Does this mean I cannot submit some debug info? [01:12] hi how do i know what is the problem ? sometimes my laptop won't wake up after suspend on RAM. [01:13] Elone: I have the same problem, the hardware is just not fully compatible with Linux [01:13] Pollywog, >.< no fix for that? [01:14] Elone: you could Google for your laptop model and possibly find one [01:14] or check the forums [01:14] ubuntuforums [01:15] Pollywog, no luck on that [01:19] hey guys ok so i got enemy terratory instaled on my kde 4.1 on ubuntu 8.10 intell duo core, i have to use metacity --replace everytime i want to play the game but even still i cannot hear any sound [01:19] i was wondreing if perhaps someone could help me make sound work [01:20] how do i find out what my sound is so i can echo it perhaps that would work [01:21] quick question, I'm thinking of coming over to kde from gnome....Is installing programs as easy...like does it use sypantic? [01:21] and updating aswell? [01:21] You can use Synaptic if you want [01:22] The default package manager for KDE is Adept [01:22] As cool [01:22] Ah* [01:22] Well, I should say Kubuntu [01:22] are ubuntu questions fair game here, or should i switch to a different channeL/ [01:23] You'd probably have better luck in #ubuntu [01:23] okay, thanks [01:23] alidar> hey guys ok so i got enemy terratory instaled on my kde 4.1 on ubuntu 8.10 intell duo core, i have to use metacity --replace everytime i want to play the game but even still i cannot hear any sound [01:23] i was wondreing if perhaps someone could help me make sound work [01:23] andrew__: depends on how gnome specific your question is [01:23] anybody knows how to use strigi through krunner? [01:23] Personal opinon. Do you think that, that Kubuntu is more powerful than Ubuntu.? Basically I have a extremly powerful computer....Wasn't inpressed on how fast ubuntu was with it. So was thinking it could be the wiondows manager. Do you think it would be faster KDE that is....I know you can't say for sure and that its an opinon. Thast all im really asking for. [01:25] I wouldn't expect KDE to run much faster or slower than Gnome [01:25] i personaly i think if you want looks go for kde if you want preformance go gnome [01:25] gnome is more stable than kde in my opinion [01:25] but kde looks alot nicer [01:25] kde is alot different lol [01:25] If you have a computer that's only a year or two old, it should handle KDE and Gnome fine [01:25] its 4 days old [01:25] lol [01:25] alidar> hey guys ok so i got enemy terratory instaled on my kde 4.1 on ubuntu 8.10 intell duo core, i have to use metacity --replace everytime i want to play the game but even still i cannot hear any sound [01:25] i was wondreing if perhaps someone could help me make sound work [01:26] If you're having performance problems, it's probably because of something else [01:26] I find that KDE is more configurable, but Gnome crashes less [01:26] whats the other enviroment called? i cant rember xsomething [01:26] xice or osmething [01:26] i just built it. phenom II 940 Quad Black / 8gig Ram [01:26] I can get KDE pretty much like I want it [01:26] xfce [01:26] if your using a beast computer like that you should be using windows [01:27] its wasted on linux [01:27] just a heads up [01:27] Really? [01:27] well what are you gona use al that computeing power on linux for? [01:27] not like you do anything hardcore with linux that requires that kinda hardware [01:27] linux can run on the crappyest computer in the world ;) [01:28] so can windows.... [01:28] you can run linux off a flashdrive lol [01:28] not rly [01:28] you try to install vista on a computer more than 2 yrs old [01:28] and see what happens ;) [01:28] Are you saying that *Unix don't reconize that much speed? [01:28] nono [01:28] unix does [01:28] I have Vista on now. [01:28] how about Linux [01:28] lol [01:29] its just that i mean that kinda power is only realy good for runing many programs that require alot of system resources [01:29] nothing on linux requires much power [01:29] and not like u can play games or anything [01:29] kalidar: saying because he has a beast of a computer he should use windows is not good advice, imho. [01:29] I got it cuase its cheap now....And video encoding Does take alot of resource. [01:29] why not riesh? [01:29] just friendly advice [01:29] kalidar: why yes ? ... [01:30] well its true tho? linux dosent need anything to run [01:30] I will say that Vista is very very fast on this box. [01:30] so hes computer power is just not being utalized [01:30] rite? [01:30] But I honestly don't like windows... [01:30] i hate windows [01:30] And i noticed a performace decrease in gnome. [01:30] but with that much power lol maby windows would be wicked [01:31] i built it for just under $700 [01:31] gnome is a resource hog but its way more stable than kde [01:31] its cheap these days.. [01:31] atleast for me anyway [01:31] not bad [01:31] kalidar: because he might use this power after all ... when editing movies or so ... or using virtualbox ... or etc etc ... there are enough situations where a awfull lot of power is handy .. [01:31] true i dident think of that [01:32] my main thing i do in internet., web programing and Video encoding [01:32] and i have encoding going all the time. [01:32] nice ;) [01:32] thats main reason for horse power. [01:32] So ... yes .. then the more pwoer and more ram is better [01:32] power* [01:32] nothing worse than hittin FF and it taking 10 seconds to load lol [01:32] yeah riesh is rite i never thought of that [01:33] im still relitivly new to linux compaird to hem lol [01:33] now i can encode and do whatever i want. its like its not encoding [01:33] i would take hes word over mine anyday [01:33] and it cut 2 hours off time. [01:33] how can i reset my sound card? something happened i dont have sound [01:33] ubuntu_: Nice :-) [01:33] im just trying to get opinions lol [01:33] josh if you figure that one out leme know too [01:33] i nee to figure out how to get sound to work with ET [01:34] ubuntu_: kde should be no problem on your system :-) [01:34] riesh does Xfice require a better system? [01:34] or better knolidge of unix [01:34] xfce ? [01:34] the other desktop [01:34] theirs 3 gnome kde and another one starts with x [01:34] xfce4 [01:34] yeah that one [01:35] you dont hear much of xfce tho i wonder why? [01:35] xubuntu [01:35] i want to try it is it any good guys? [01:35] isn't xubuntu based on xfce? [01:35] i think xfce requires less. [01:35] don't know :-) ... never tried it ... is is a smalelr and faster as gnome and kde i think [01:36] yes it is smaller and faster than KDE and Gnome [01:36] hmm im tempted to try it [01:36] runs on slow laptops [01:36] Pollywog: yes it is [01:36] but il miss kde so much [01:36] nm got it [01:36] kde has alot of eyecandy XD [01:36] Riesh: do you think that kde will perform better than gnome? [01:36] kalidar: i just went to system settings, multimedia, sound, and changed the deferred device to pulseaudio [01:36] gnome should preforme better [01:37] nope [01:37] thanks josh [01:37] ubuntu_: no ... :-) ... but your computer won't have any problems with it ... [01:37] ill try that cuz for some reason my sound works fine untill i try to play enemy terratory [01:37] Cool [01:38] i say go with kde :) [01:38] we need more kde users XD [01:38] ubuntu_: i think you can choose anything you want ... [01:38] kalidar: there is a fix for that [01:38] pollly hit me ;) [01:38] Is the latest coming out in April? like gnome? [01:38] newer* [01:38] eheh... here i am with kubuntu 9.04 beta :) [01:38] simply fantastic [01:38] ubuntu_: yes [01:38] gimox! how is it? [01:38] :-) [01:38] better than 8.10? [01:39] Same as 8.10? Like look and feel? [01:39] kalidar: it rockz :-P [01:39] if you prefer kde 4 it's surely better [01:39] kde 4.2.1 it's absolutely stable [01:39] realy! but because its beta wont it have alot of debuging stil let to do? [01:39] If you google enemy territory and sound in Google Linux, you can find the fix, it is just one line you put in /etc/init.d/bootmisc [01:39] not really... in ubuntu the beta release is just a bit less than official release [01:39] from today to 27 april [01:39] if you like it nice [01:39] polly could you plz send me a link ive ben lokin for that fix all day [01:39] i couldent find it [01:40] ubuntu devs will just correct documentations [01:40] k [01:40] ok so if i go get 9.2 beta of kubunut i can just upgrade from the update manager in apt-get rite? [01:40] and thattle make it a full release? === FACHF is now known as fachf === fachf is now known as fachfgnome [01:41] kalidar, see if this works: [01:41] http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gaming-games-multimedia-entertainment/19228-sound-doesnt-work-enemy-territory.html === alberto is now known as lorenzo___ [01:41] forget i asked that question lol god im stupid sometimes [01:41] hi [01:41] the fix is the third post there [01:41] yo polllly thanks alot for that man ;) [01:42] if it works, just put the line in your startup scripts [01:42] youve no idea how long i was lookin for that fix thismorning lol [01:42] pre kde or just startup? [01:42] hi a [01:42] hi [01:42] kalidar: the startup scripts in /etc/init.d [01:42] I used /etc/init.d/bootmisc [01:43] actualy i have another problem sence you bring up startup scripts polly [01:43] * Riesh got a message his new kernel image asks for a reboot ... brb [01:43] perhaps Ubuntu does not have bootmisc I do not recall [01:43] but you can make your own script === brendonw__ is now known as brendonw [01:43] polly when i go into settings and click advanced and then click startup [01:43] a window comes up and i click startup script and in it i type metacity --replace [01:43] hello everyone [01:43] but it dosent do that when i load kde [01:43] why?? [01:44] kalidar do you want to change your window manager to metacity? [01:44] yes [01:44] forever [01:44] do you want to change it for all users? [01:44] yes forever! [01:44] lol [01:45] i hate typeing metacity --replace all the time and then i gota reorganize my widgets and stuff [01:45] grr [01:45] use update-alternatives [01:45] man update-alternatives [01:45] thats it? [01:45] Ok everyone I guess I'm out for now. [01:45] ok ill type that [01:45] no you have to add some switches [01:45] l8tr ubun [01:45] luck bro [01:45] hold on [01:45] I'm gong to hold off until final verion is released. [01:45] ok poly [01:46] il wate for u [01:46] ubun [01:46] Then I'll install and give it a try :) [01:46] Thanks for ya'lls time [01:46] what are u running rite now ubun [01:46] vista right now. [01:46] switch rite now ;) trust me [01:46] well tech [01:46] KDE [01:46] youll want some practice [01:46] im on the live cd [01:46] befor you instal your final system [01:47] i formated my linux like 4 times befor i knew what i was doing with it [01:47] lol [01:47] and i tryed every distrobution [01:47] http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/91 [01:47] I have been runing linux for about a year [01:47] but only gnome [01:47] aww ok [01:47] kalidar that is for you [01:47] try kde its worth it [01:47] ^^ [01:47] thanks pollywog il read it ;) [01:47] hej guy stuck in trouble with my wificard [01:47] polly im not using debian tho [01:47] Ok later yal [01:48] l8tr [01:48] kalidar: should work in Ubuntu [01:49] like this update-alternatives --config x-window-manager [01:49] ok leme check can u stic around for a while i mite need you [01:49] just type that? [01:49] then you choose the one you want [01:49] yes [01:49] ok il do it now [01:49] as root [01:49] test [01:49] or sudo [01:49] sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager? [01:49] yes [01:49] thx [01:50] can anybody in her help me? [01:50] just ask your question [01:50] omg pollywog i could kis you [01:50] if someone knows [01:50] did it work? [01:50] ive been tryin to figure this out for a while !! ok so it said permision denied [01:50] how do i log in as root sudo dident work [01:50] you used sudo? [01:50] maby superuser? [01:51] oh nvm [01:51] then you did not set yourself uyp for sudo so use root [01:51] forgot i dident coppy sudo lol [01:51] k [01:51] Hi kalidar, could I know how to change text color ? [01:51] problem is its anatheros ar5007g chipset, madwifi drivers installed but nopthing appaers with iwconfig [01:51] well that was too easy [01:52] that couldent have been all [01:52] fjallagyldir: did you use ndiswrapper? [01:52] that was so simple XD [01:52] kalidar, you will find out if you restart X [01:52] thats ok i dont have to restart i belive its my default now [01:52] k [01:52] it said using metacity to provide x window manager [01:52] no i used madwifi restricted modules, and it should be supported according to ther HP [01:53] http://www.wireless-driver.com/download/atheros/Atheros-Wirelss-Module-Model-and-Chipset.htm Pollywog [01:53] im gona go read those sound fixes thakns man ill be back in a bit [01:53] a you want to know how to change text color? [01:54] what version of irc are you supporting rite now? [01:54] irssi? [01:54] fjallagyldir: did you look in the wiki? [01:54] or xchat or konversation [01:54] a === ricardo is now known as ricardo_ [01:54] fjallagyldir: I am pretty sure the Ubuntu wiki has the info you need to get it working [01:55] which one do u mean Pollywog [01:55] you can google for it [01:55] if you say someones name in irc it highlights a different color like private message rite? [01:55] you installed the drivers, apparently [01:55] asked google, so far no luck [01:55] hold on [01:56] fjallagyldir: Hardy or Intrepid? [01:57] this info is for atheros wifi on Intrepid: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Atheros_Cards === alberto is now known as lorenzo__ [01:58] found something and will try it [01:59] polly i tryed artsdsp -v -m et but it says extention not found [02:00] pollywog [02:01] is that because i instaled the game localy instead of systemwide? [02:02] anyone? how would i preform artsdsp -v -m et on a localy instaled file? [02:02] ls [02:03] I have a question about a program that I just downloaded [02:04] shoot [02:04] I downloaded virtual box, and want to know if there is anything else that I need to install to make it work [02:04] like to get USB support or to get the OS to read the internet [02:04] sorry not a clue whas a virtual box? [02:05] whats [02:05] virtual box allows you to install another OS inside of linux [02:05] kinda like wine? [02:05] alright damn sweet, new 9.04 beta works perfect out of box, first one to work from the get go [02:05] casinowarren: you need to get the user into the vboxusers group [02:05] kalidar: no like vmware [02:05] ok [02:05] realy! how do i get a virtualbox [02:05] i gota pay for it? [02:06] :-) ... no [02:06] get it from your repositories [02:06] no video issues, no special boot options, no usb problems, no nothing, no sound missing, no printer missing, it just works [02:06] type in virtual box [02:06] apt-cache search virtualbox [02:06] how do i do that riesh? [02:06] do i have to partition offf hardspace to run a virtual box? [02:06] after 2 days of messing with command lines you don't know how good that feels :) [02:06] casinowarren: using kde ? [02:06] yeah you set it up [02:06] yeah using kde [02:07] crazy! i dident kow that existed [02:07] casinowarren: go to System -> user manager ... [02:07] so you could have windows running inside a window on yr desktop!? [02:07] yeah [02:07] a full copy of it [02:07] whaaaaaaaaat man im downloading windows [02:07] a full installation [02:07] and throwin it on my linux [02:07] so i can play games and crap lol [02:07] thx [02:07] kalidar: not really ... [02:08] oh btw anyone know how i can artsdsp -v -m et a localy instaled file? [02:08] why not riesh? [02:08] directx is not really supported [02:08] no it isn't [02:08] aww then whats the point then :( [02:08] casinowarren, usb support is a bit of a pain, but it can be setup. internet works out of the box [02:08] because it makes it easier to install some programs [02:08] only reason you would ever want another system outside of linux is for gameing lol [02:08] There are other programs which are windows only [02:08] linux has everything else masterd [02:09] hmm i getcha [02:09] casinowarren, i'd suggest getting the guest additions iso [02:09] devilsadvocate: it didn't work when I tried to use the net [02:09] still that is prety cool il have to rember that [02:09] only cause directx is still the current standard :P [02:09] devilsadvocate: where do I get the guest additions? [02:09] casinowarren, did you setup your network card (on vbox) to do NAT? [02:09] once directx goes bye bye... [02:09] and a new portable standard comes along... [02:09] ummmmmmmmmmm....i'm not sure [02:09] let me open it up [02:09] hopefuly [02:09] that would make things a lot better :) not sure I'd say perfect, but a lot better [02:10] casinowarren, i dont remember. click on the install guest additions option in the menu and it will link to it [02:10] so direct x is the only thing that wont work on a virtual box? [02:10] Riesh: what user do I need to put in the vbox? [02:10] alright [02:10] casinowarren: you have a group vboxusers ... and you need to add your user account in there [02:10] hello [02:10] casinowarren, you should also install virtualbox-tools (dont remember the correct name) [02:11] hi [02:11] artsdsp -v -m et can anyone tle me how i can preform that command on a localy installed file? [02:11] casinowarren: after that you have to log out and login again to make this work ... [02:11] alright [02:12] artsdsp -v -m (filepath) dosent work ither [02:12] tryed boath [02:12] anyone? [02:12] Reish: thanks [02:13] fjallagyldir: I can get that from the repositories right? [02:13] casinowarren: welcome [02:13] nobudy knows?? [02:13] know's what kalidar? [02:13] hmm guess i could mess around a while [02:14] i ned to know how to preform artsdsp -v -m on a localy installe file [02:14] think so just installed it on my gentoo box casinowarren, or maybe when you start VB it asks you if it should install these thing [02:14] it wont work cuz the file i instaled isent system wide rite? [02:14] casinowarren: i suggest you install from the virtualbox site yourself .. then you always can get the latest software ... [02:14] i also remember a menu where you can install that stuff casinowarren [02:15] alright, i'll uninstall and download [02:15] casinowarren: i have this in my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian intrepid non-free [02:17] do I put that in my repositories list? [02:17] yes [02:17] ok [02:17] a;kjgf;akgdj;ag [02:17] but on their site it is explained very well [02:17] stupid documentation is so vague [02:17] ill try ubuntu its to busy here l8tr guys [02:18] ok, hond on just a second [02:18] http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads [02:18] hello === testing is now known as Guest57557 [02:19] how can i safely shut down a kde3 w/o a mouse? [02:19] i mean, i can type in shutdown now but hwo can i get to the kde shutdown menu [02:21] ahhh good old ctrl+alt+del [02:21] Riesh: what's that? [02:21] casinowarren: what is what? [02:21] the link you sent me [02:22] it's from the website virtualbox ... [02:22] sometimes they have newer versions of virtualbox then in the repositories [02:23] alright [02:25] hi everybody [02:25] I am looking for help === danilo is now known as d [02:26] i'm downloading the newest version of the program now [02:26] once it downloads, it should update what I currently have right? [02:27] casinowarren: depends on which version you have now installed [02:27] tell me marco__ [02:27] I had to reinstall 8.04 on my pc because after upgrading to 8.10 is crashed at startup and had grub problems. After reinstalling my video card is not recognized and I have to use xrandr everytime I log in. My videocard is a VIA S3 chipset K8M800, openchrome seems o be useless and recionfiguring xorg I am just askd a few questions on my keyboard, nothing more [02:27] 2.0.4 === danilo is now known as dca [02:27] marco speak spanish [02:28] i think you betetr first un-install that [02:28] alright [02:28] I cannot speak spanish I am not spanish [02:28] because they both use the vboxdrv and vboxnet .... probably will give conflicts [02:29] i see [02:29] well i'm uninstalling right now [02:29] i'm so anxious [02:29] OK ... after that install with sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.1 === danilo is now known as dca [02:29] even though i downloaded the .deb file? [02:30] any help?? [02:30] hold on marco, i'm reading what you said [02:30] casinowarren: no .. then install with sudo dpkg -i virtualbox-2.1.deb ... (don't know if thats the name) [02:31] ok one second [02:32] amarok 2 not support ipods anymore? [02:32] bye everybody! [02:34] marco__: personaly i nver had good experiences with uppgrading from one release to another release ... so i not really recommending that. Better start from a fresh install [02:34] well [02:34] that is what i did [02:36] you installed again from 8.04.2? [02:37] yes exactly [02:38] marco__, yeah. most of the stuff is not handled by xrandr, not form xorg.conf [02:38] yeah but reconfiguring that is no use [02:39] yeah, it wont be === roberto is now known as Guest87134 === Guest87134 is now known as roberto_ [02:43] Reish: it keeps telling me that the same package is available in a software channel [02:43] I always do fresh installs also. === sean is now known as Guest33046 [02:43] casinowarren: what you mean ? ... [02:43] Riesh: when I try to install the .deb package [02:43] what tells when you do what? [02:44] there is a window that pops up and tells me [02:44] really ? ... but you said you installed 2.0.4 from the repositories ... and 2.1 i newer then that [02:45] i know [02:45] that's why i'm lost and getting frustrated [02:45] casinowarren: i mostly install things like debs on the command line [02:45] i tried to do it like that, and it wouldn't let me [02:46] ??? [02:46] so i double clicked on it and let the installer do it's thing [02:46] because i installed the deb installer package [02:46] sudo dpkg -i vbox.deb ? [02:47] sudo dpkg -i then the package name [02:48] casinowarren: and after that you get an error message that the same package is also in the repositories ? [02:48] yeah, it let's me know that the same version is in a software channel [02:49] But you did not add the virtualbox.org repository, right ? [02:49] yes i did with the info you gave me [02:49] aaaaaaaahhhh ... [02:50] then just install with sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.1 [02:50] there was no need to download the deb file also [02:51] I can't get any screensavers to work in neon nightly [02:51] how come? [02:51] KDE 4.2 [02:51] jnalli: what is neon nightly ? :-) [02:52] isnt that kde 4.2? [02:52] jnalli: i don't think you are running nightly builds of kde 4.2 [02:52] how do i tell? [02:52] jnalli, Neon is amarok's nightly build codename [02:53] Oh [02:53] kde 4.2 is kde 4.2, and is stable (ie, no nightlies) [02:53] my screensavers dont work [02:53] or none are included [02:53] jnalli, i think none are included [02:54] finally got my wifi running [02:54] how do i get them? [02:54] jnalli, searching [02:54] apt-cache search screensaver [02:54] jnalli, install kscreensaver [02:55] how? [02:55] sudo apt-get install kscreensaver [02:55] sudo apt-get install kscreensaver? [02:55] yeah [02:57] Okay.. I'll try it [02:57] it's installing something [03:15] hello === nicholas__ is now known as tacosarecool [03:15] ok [03:16] Is the 9.04 beta worth it? [03:23] tacosarecool: no idea, just burned the dvd... need to try it [03:26] is there a version of kubuntu for netbooks? [03:28] Zxcvb, not that i know of [03:29] Zxcvb, there isnt really much different, is there? [03:30] other than not taking up as much hard drive space and disabling graphical effects and quickstart stuff by default, I don't think so [03:30] What's the Harddrive partioner? [03:31] Zxcvb, hm [03:31] Daskreech, qtparted might work. dont know what the default is [03:31] ji [03:32] devilsadvocate: Ok thanks [03:32] hi* [03:32] Zxcvb, i dont know how you can reduce hard drive usage from a default kubuntu install [03:32] its pretty minimal to start with [03:33] Zxcvb, http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/151 [03:35] not counting swap and /home space, how much disk space does a default install use? [03:37] i think around 2 gb, maybe 3 at most [03:37] i dont really remember now [03:37] there was a time when my entire /, including home, was on 6 gb [03:37] (a long time ago) [03:38] just checking, as I have an old laptop (1ghz, 512mb ram) that only has a 20gb hard drive [03:38] going to set it up for use as a netbook [03:38] (~2 years, home was probably about 2 g) [03:38] ah [03:38] i have a similar laptop, 800 MHz, 284 MB ram [03:38] 384* [03:38] 80 G hard drive though [03:38] so the goal is to have as much space as possible for /home [03:39] unfortunately the cdrom doesn't work and I don't think it supports booting from usb [03:39] you can still install [03:40] do you have a working operating system on it? [03:40] !install [03:40] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - see also !automate [03:40] windows 2000, I think [03:42] there is a grub for windows. not sure if it supports 2000, possibly not. you can check. its possible to install with it [03:43] nass [03:43] alternatively, there is a way in which on win NT and its successors, of which i think 2000 is one of them, you can use the windows bootloader to point to a linux image [03:44] Zxcvb: Does it havea network card? [03:45] yes [03:45] is there anything like smart boot manager that can boot from usb? [03:58] hey [03:58] anybody can help me?? [03:58] I had to reinstall 8.04 on my pc because after upgrading to 8.10 is crashed at startup and had grub problems. After reinstalling my video card is not recognized and I have to use xrandr everytime I log in. My videocard is a VIA S3 chipset K8M800, openchrome seems o be useless and recionfiguring xorg I am just askd a few questions on my keyboard, nothing more [04:00] Via has it's own driver [04:00] somethingsomethign chrome === julianad is now known as cual [04:06] I had to reinstall 8.04 on my pc because after upgrading to 8.10 is crashed at startup and had grub problems. After reinstalling my video card is not recognized and I have to use xrandr everytime I log in. My videocard is a VIA S3 chipset K8M800, openchrome seems o be useless and recionfiguring xorg I am just askd a few questions on my keyboard, nothing more [04:12] hey guys [04:12] my usb keyboard in kubuntu here, is dirt slow [04:12] and so is my mouse, sluggish slow [04:12] its not a video problem, just updated video card drivers, and 3d runs beautifully [04:12] as does 2d performance === nightshade is now known as nightshade999 [04:18] babylonsfury: just guessing, have you check the system settings->keyboard&mouse to see if anything strange is set?.... have you tried in a vt ? [04:20] is there a way to install kubuntu via loadlin? === ubuntu_ is now known as bama === bama is now known as AlabamaHit [04:24] Hi everyone. [04:24] I'm installing now...i have a quick questin on it [04:25] I have windows installed already. On the partion setup does Install them side by side mean that its going to dual boot? [04:25] khindenburg: whats a vt [04:26] AlabamaHit: I don't think the partition setup has anything to do w/ dual boot. Grub will automatically find Windows OS [04:26] Yeah, thats what is odd on there is don't say the windows OS. it says sda1 [04:26] babylonsfury: virtual terminal... hit ctrl+alt+f1, then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X [04:27] AlabamaHit: you should check out the install howtos just to be sure [04:27] !install [04:27] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - see also !automate [04:27] humm....print screen taking picture.....is there a way in KDE to take screen shot? [04:28] AlabamaHit: ksnapshot [04:28] khindenburg: trying vt now [04:29] babylonsfury: you won't have a mouse but you should be able to check keyboard [04:29] babylonsfury: try to edit a file and see how fast you can type [04:29] khindenburg: yeah its taking a while to load vt [04:30] khindenburg: something about a no resume image doing normal boot, and a first time init, performing custom init procedure [04:31] babylonsfury: to load? it should be < 1 sec to get to the screen [04:31] khindenburg: http://s5.tinypic.com/13zvh1.jpg that is what im looking at....First time installing KDE...have used gnome..and in gnome it usually has version on there where sda1 is... [04:31] khindenburg: yeah vt still hasn't loaded [04:32] AlabamaHit: well I use the bottom one, since I partition the HD w/ fdisk on a terminal... I'm not sure what the other options do [04:32] babylonsfury: yikes, that's not good... is the CPU at 100%? You could log out and then try the vt [04:34] khindenburg: not sure how to check cpu %, only third day in linux :) [04:34] AlabamaHit: read the help pages... you don't want to lose your windows partition [04:34] khindenburg: Just looked over them...Seems that is the option i was wanting. :) [04:37] babylonsfury: well if your CPU is at 100% then everything could be slow; you want to start System Monitor in the System menu [04:37] babylonsfury: so KDE button->applications->system->system monitor [04:38] khindenburg: cpu 0% memory 614 MiB/23.8 GiB [04:39] babylonsfury: well that's good I guess.... I honestly don't know what would make keyboard/mouse that slow... or why the vt would be slow [04:39] khindenburg: vt appears to be locked up, not slow at this point [04:39] babylonsfury: wow 23 gig ram :P [04:39] >.> 23.8 GB ram..... >.> [04:39] thought my 8gig was high lol [04:40] khindenburg: and all my usb input is slow, mouse and keyboard, keyboard is just the most annoying, can barely type [04:40] babylonsfury: you just installed Kubuntu on this system? What version? [04:42] khindenburg: jaunty beta 9.04 only thing that would even recognize my usb devices, and video, and audio, at same time [04:42] babylonsfury: oh beta... make sure you file a report on it [04:43] babylonsfury: if you have the liveCD beta, do you have the same issue? [04:43] khindenburg: yep, on every livecd I have, including gnome, usb is so sluggish its not funny [04:44] khindenburg: thought it was video, but can confirm its not [04:44] khindenburg: neverwinter nights runs beautifully, with a whopping 105 fps [04:45] khindenburg: tweaked the mouse settings and keyboard repeat settings, besides for keyboard being ridiculously sluggish, mouse is usable now, and keyboard doesn't repeat 35 of every character by me accidentally pushing a key [04:46] khindenburg: and thank god for my laptop here, which doesn't have the issues, lol [04:46] babylonsfury: try an old non-usb keyboard/mouse if you have the stuff [04:46] khindenburg: already tried a serial/rs232 keyboard, worked like a dang charm [04:47] babylonsfury: I just burned the beta liveDVD... haven't tried it yet though [04:47] khindenburg: cool, I [04:47] khindenburg: 'm pretty sure its the usb controller, just not sure what to play with/tweak to get it to run better, no clue where the usb settings are hidden [04:48] babylonsfury: think usb is handled by udev stuff now... /etc/udev... not sure if you can do anything though [04:51] Has anyone else tried to dual boot.....the installer has been hung up at Resizing Partion for awhile. 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