slicer | Hi. I could use a bit of help with bug #349853 | 00:10 |
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ubottu | Launchpad bug 349853 in mumble "[needs-packaging] Please sync mumble 1.1.8-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349853 | 00:10 |
slicer | We're way past the feature freeze, so it's not going to make it into Jaunty, and as it's in unstable (and the 1.1.7-3 release is already in Ubuntu), it will be auto-synced once Jaunty is released. | 00:11 |
slicer | First off, someone marked it "needs packaging". I thought this was reserved for packages not already in Ubuntu/Debian? Second, since this won't happen for Jaunty, and will happen automatically for Jaunty+1, what should the bug actually be marked as? | 00:13 |
directhex | slicer, the [needs packaging] was added by Tristan Greaves | 00:15 |
directhex | slicer, and it's entirely inappropriate to mark your bug with that tag | 00:15 |
wgrant | slicer: The autosync question is a hard one. I'm not sure whether it's better to leave it open, mark it Invalid, or add a Debian task with status Fix Released. | 00:16 |
wgrant | The last is easy to deal with later. | 00:16 |
wgrant | Because we can get a list of bugs fixed upstream but not in Ubuntu. | 00:16 |
slicer | directhex: Ok, so I can just remove that tag? | 00:17 |
directhex | i would | 00:18 |
wgrant | Yes. | 00:18 |
wgrant | That's clearly wrong. | 00:18 |
wgrant | And maybe email the triager, if it wasn't too long ago. | 00:18 |
directhex | along with a grumpy "why was this inappropriate tag added? >8\/" | 00:18 |
Laney | I'd be tempted to just invalidate it | 00:18 |
wgrant | Laney: That's not correct, but it's probably the most efficient course of action. | 00:19 |
wgrant | So it's a good idea. | 00:19 |
Laney | wgrant: Right, it's not at all clear what is "correct" herere | 00:19 |
Laney | -re | 00:19 |
Laney | maybe Won't Fix is more accurate | 00:20 |
wgrant | Oh, that's true. | 00:20 |
slicer | Laney: Uh. There is no "Won't Fix"? | 00:20 |
wgrant | slicer: For privileged users there is. | 00:20 |
slicer | Laney: At least not on the launchpad bug interface. | 00:20 |
slicer | wgrant: Ah. | 00:20 |
slicer | wgrant: That doesn't help me though ;) | 00:21 |
Laney | I'll set it with a comment | 00:21 |
wgrant | slicer: Only ~ubuntu-bugcontrol can do it. | 00:21 |
wgrant | Which includes ~ubuntu-dev and various other teams. | 00:21 |
slicer | Laney: Thanks. | 00:21 |
Laney | done | 00:21 |
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YokoZar | Hmm, libjack0.100.0-dev depends on libjack-dev, but libjack-dev conflicts with it (no replaces). This caused pbuilder to panic when I had a package build depend on libjack0.100.0-dev, but for some reason I can install it with apt-get | 02:54 |
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smallfoot- | put pyglet 1.3 in repo, you only have 1.1.2 | 03:23 |
dtchen | err, jack-audio-connection-kit is somewhat special, though. | 04:10 |
dtchen | d'oh, he's not present | 04:10 |
cpscotti | hi, can someone tell me where can I find the "debian/" trees for some upstream python packages? I mean the tree that is used before running "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc". I would like to see more examples of file like {control, compat, menu, rules}. | 06:04 |
dtchen | cpscotti: e.g., http://package-import.ubuntu.com/ ? | 06:05 |
cpscotti | dtchen: exactly! thanks a bunch! | 06:08 |
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quadrispro | oo-ops | 12:23 |
pochu | quadrispro: :-) | 12:28 |
quadrispro | pochu: my brain crashed with segfault, rebooting now | 12:33 |
quadrispro | :) | 12:33 |
pochu | quadrispro: you're not the first one to make that mistake though ;) | 12:40 |
quadrispro | y, I know | 13:00 |
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RainCT | >> < socinfo> "ubuntu" is Ubuntu had applied and was accepted, but they have subsequently chosen not to participate in GSoC 2009 | 16:35 |
* RainCT wonders why he hadn't heard anything at all about this before.. yay for transparency and using the mailing lists :P | 16:36 | |
jpds | Old news. | 16:38 |
imbrandon | to some maybe, i hadent heard that either | 16:39 |
imbrandon | :) | 16:39 |
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ScottK | persia: Is lash a package that we care about maintaining? It hasn't been touched since Hardy (you TIL). I just tried to rebuild it for the Python 2.6 transition and it has an unrelated FTBFS now. | 18:14 |
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RainCT | OT, can someone tell me what the difference between «In the indexed addressing mode, the instruction contains a memory address to access» and «In the indirect addressing mode, the instruction contains a register that contains a pointer to where the data should be accessed.» is? Sounds like the same to me :P | 19:58 |
pochu | RainCT: register != address | 20:05 |
RainCT | pochu: Right (register is in the CPU's memory?). What does it mean that an instruction contains a register? | 20:07 |
pochu | RainCT: it's the opposite | 20:08 |
pochu | err | 20:08 |
pochu | no, that is | 20:08 |
pochu | the instruction gives you the number of a register | 20:09 |
pochu | eg $5 | 20:09 |
pochu | and the register contains a memory address | 20:09 |
RainCT | Ah | 20:09 |
pochu | RainCT: but I don't know what that is, it's just what I understand from what you've pasted | 20:09 |
RainCT | Okay, I think now I understand it :). Thanks. | 20:11 |
RainCT | pochu: those are two of several methods how the computer can access the data, as described in "Programming from the Ground Up" (http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/pgubook/) | 20:11 |
RainCT | And if you wonder why the heck I'm reading that, it's all kirkland's fault :P, as he recommended me the book "Hackers: heroes of the computer revolution" which has just made me curious on what assembly looks like :P | 20:13 |
pochu | I've studied MIPS assembly in uni | 20:20 |
pochu | had to write a tetris game in mips ;) | 20:20 |
RainCT | pochu: how many LOC? | 20:25 |
* sebner waves at pochu :) | 20:25 | |
pochu | hey sebner :) | 20:26 |
pochu | RainCT: 937, but that includes comments et al | 20:26 |
pochu | RainCT: it's a very basic tetris for the console | 20:27 |
_stochastic_ | what's the command to allow me to execute a command within the pbuilder environment after it has built (or failed to build) my package? | 21:38 |
pochu | _stochastic_: have a look at /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/C10shell | 21:40 |
_stochastic_ | pochu, thanks, that looks like it's in the right direction, but I'm somewhat of a packaging noob and it's terseness confuses me | 21:42 |
_stochastic_ | do I need to run all those commands before executing 'sudo pbuilder build packagename.dsc' ? | 21:43 |
pochu | no | 21:44 |
pochu | _stochastic_: that's a hook that is automatically executed at some point | 21:44 |
pochu | for C* hooks, it's on build failure | 21:44 |
pochu | and for B*, on build success | 21:44 |
pochu | you want both IIUC | 21:44 |
pochu | so you need to add that hook as C10shell and B10shell to your hooks | 21:45 |
_stochastic_ | I'm mostly concerned with C* hooks, but both would be nice | 21:45 |
pochu | look for hook in pbuilderrc manpage | 21:45 |
pochu | I only have them for C* FWIW | 21:45 |
pochu | and pbuilder(8) also explains them | 21:45 |
_stochastic_ | okay, now I think I understand, I'll be back if I need further assistance. thanks. | 21:46 |
persia | ScottK, I've been looking at that FTBFS since January, without much success, unfortunately. I'd like to see it work, but haven't had luck. | 23:30 |
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