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slicerHi. I could use a bit of help with bug #34985300:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 349853 in mumble "[needs-packaging] Please sync mumble 1.1.8-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34985300:10
slicerWe're way past the feature freeze, so it's not going to make it into Jaunty, and as it's in unstable (and the 1.1.7-3 release is already in Ubuntu), it will be auto-synced once Jaunty is released.00:11
slicerFirst off, someone marked it "needs packaging". I thought this was reserved for packages not already in Ubuntu/Debian? Second, since this won't happen for Jaunty, and will happen automatically for Jaunty+1, what should the bug actually be marked as?00:13
directhexslicer, the [needs packaging] was added by Tristan Greaves00:15
directhexslicer, and it's entirely inappropriate to mark your bug with that tag00:15
wgrantslicer: The autosync question is a hard one. I'm not sure whether it's better to leave it open, mark it Invalid, or add a Debian task with status Fix Released.00:16
wgrantThe last is easy to deal with later.00:16
wgrantBecause we can get a list of bugs fixed upstream but not in Ubuntu.00:16
slicerdirecthex: Ok, so I can just remove that tag?00:17
directhexi would00:18
wgrantYes.00:18
wgrantThat's clearly wrong.00:18
wgrantAnd maybe email the triager, if it wasn't too long ago.00:18
directhexalong with a grumpy "why was this inappropriate tag added? >8\/"00:18
LaneyI'd be tempted to just invalidate it00:18
wgrantLaney: That's not correct, but it's probably the most efficient course of action.00:19
wgrantSo it's a good idea.00:19
Laneywgrant: Right, it's not at all clear what is "correct" herere00:19
Laney-re00:19
Laneymaybe Won't Fix is more accurate00:20
wgrantOh, that's true.00:20
slicerLaney: Uh. There is no "Won't Fix"?00:20
wgrantslicer: For privileged users there is.00:20
slicerLaney: At least not on the launchpad bug interface.00:20
slicerwgrant: Ah.00:20
slicerwgrant: That doesn't help me though ;)00:21
LaneyI'll set it with a comment00:21
wgrantslicer: Only ~ubuntu-bugcontrol can do it.00:21
wgrantWhich includes ~ubuntu-dev and various other teams.00:21
slicerLaney: Thanks.00:21
Laneydone00:21
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YokoZarHmm, libjack0.100.0-dev depends on libjack-dev, but libjack-dev conflicts with it (no replaces).  This caused pbuilder to panic when I had a package build depend on libjack0.100.0-dev, but for some reason I can install it with apt-get02:54
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smallfoot-put pyglet 1.3 in repo, you only have 1.1.203:23
dtchenerr, jack-audio-connection-kit is somewhat special, though.04:10
dtchend'oh, he's not present04:10
cpscottihi, can someone tell me where can I find the "debian/" trees for some upstream python packages? I mean the tree that is used before running "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc". I would like to see more examples of file like {control, compat, menu, rules}.06:04
dtchencpscotti: e.g., http://package-import.ubuntu.com/ ?06:05
cpscottidtchen: exactly! thanks a bunch!06:08
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quadrisprooo-ops12:23
pochuquadrispro: :-)12:28
quadrispropochu: my brain crashed with segfault, rebooting now12:33
quadrispro:)12:33
pochuquadrispro: you're not the first one to make that mistake though ;)12:40
quadrisproy, I know13:00
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RainCT>>  < socinfo> "ubuntu" is Ubuntu had applied and was accepted, but they have  subsequently chosen not to participate in GSoC 200916:35
* RainCT wonders why he hadn't heard anything at all about this before.. yay for transparency and using the mailing lists :P16:36
jpdsOld news.16:38
imbrandonto some maybe, i hadent heard that either16:39
imbrandon:)16:39
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ScottKpersia: Is lash a package that we care about maintaining?  It hasn't been touched since Hardy (you TIL).  I just tried to rebuild it for the Python 2.6 transition and it has an unrelated FTBFS now.18:14
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RainCTOT, can someone tell me what the difference between «In the indexed addressing mode, the instruction contains a memory address to access» and «In the indirect addressing mode, the instruction contains a register that contains a pointer to where the data should be accessed.» is? Sounds like the same to me :P19:58
pochuRainCT: register != address20:05
RainCTpochu: Right (register is in the CPU's memory?). What does it mean that an instruction contains a register?20:07
pochuRainCT: it's the opposite20:08
pochuerr20:08
pochuno, that is20:08
pochuthe instruction gives you the number of a register20:09
pochueg $520:09
pochuand the register contains a memory address20:09
RainCTAh20:09
pochuRainCT: but I don't know what that is, it's just what I understand from what you've pasted20:09
RainCTOkay, I think now I understand it :). Thanks.20:11
RainCTpochu: those are two of several methods how the computer can access the data, as described in "Programming from the Ground Up" (http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/pgubook/)20:11
RainCTAnd if you wonder why the heck I'm reading that, it's all kirkland's fault :P, as he recommended me the book "Hackers: heroes of the computer revolution" which has just made me curious on what assembly looks like :P20:13
pochuI've studied MIPS assembly in uni20:20
pochuhad to write a tetris game in mips ;)20:20
RainCTpochu: how many LOC?20:25
* sebner waves at pochu :)20:25
pochuhey sebner :)20:26
pochuRainCT: 937, but that includes comments et al20:26
pochuRainCT: it's a very basic tetris for the console20:27
_stochastic_what's the command to allow me to execute a command within the pbuilder environment after it has built (or failed to build) my package?21:38
pochu_stochastic_: have a look at /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/C10shell21:40
_stochastic_pochu, thanks, that looks like it's in the right direction, but I'm somewhat of a packaging noob and it's terseness confuses me21:42
_stochastic_do I need to run all those commands before executing 'sudo pbuilder build packagename.dsc' ?21:43
pochuno21:44
pochu_stochastic_: that's a hook that is automatically executed at some point21:44
pochufor C* hooks, it's on build failure21:44
pochuand for B*, on build success21:44
pochuyou want both IIUC21:44
pochuso you need to add that hook as C10shell and B10shell to your hooks21:45
_stochastic_I'm mostly concerned with C* hooks, but both would be nice21:45
pochulook for hook in pbuilderrc manpage21:45
pochuI only have them for C* FWIW21:45
pochuand pbuilder(8) also explains them21:45
_stochastic_okay, now I think I understand, I'll be back if I need further assistance.  thanks.21:46
persiaScottK, I've been looking at that FTBFS since January, without much success, unfortunately.  I'd like to see it work, but haven't had luck.23:30

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