[00:00] my best guess is X runs off the kernel [00:01] because it didn't touch xorg.conf when i restarted [00:01] it doesn't touch it, it only reads from it, and uses defaults if it's empty [00:01] ah [00:02] it doesn't write the defults to the file? [00:02] hello all [00:02] ello [00:02] How do i upgrade from pidgin 2.5.2 to 2.5.5 [00:02] I'm kind of a noob on linux [00:05] Can anyone offer advice on a slow ethernet connection between my Linux box and the DSL router/Internet? Was running at ~300kbps and now is at 45kbps... [00:23] apt-get update pidgin? [00:34] how can i check to see what type of video card I have? [00:44] J_Litewski: lspci | grep VGA [00:44] ty [00:44] it says i have an SiS driver [00:46] * TheSheep hates SiS cards, I had a lot of trouble with them [00:47] it's a Dell [00:48] how do you do options in xorg.conf? [00:48] more accurately, how do you format xorg.conf with options for drivers? [01:17] I have an error that's keeping me from getting to the login screen: /usr/bin/ck-launch-session: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_thread_use_default_i(unreadable character)pl [01:17] What does it mean? And how do I fix it? [01:24] I have an error that's keeping me from getting to the login screen: /usr/bin/ck-launch-session: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_thread_use_default_i(unreadable character)pl [01:32] b0rked, hmm... have you tried manually upgrading parts of your system or something? [01:32] hi [01:32] Hi lukinfore [01:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exo/+bug/195649 [01:32] was that fixed for jaunty? [01:33] * cody-somerville takes a look. [01:35] cody-somerville: sorry for the delay, I've been dusting off Ye Olde Commande Line Skylles. [01:36] lukinfore, It appears so [01:37] well, still affects me [01:38] file a bug :) [01:38] Alternately, where does Ubuntu mount USB flash drives? [01:40] Usually under /media/ [01:42] It isn't. [01:42] Can you pastebin the output of mount ? [01:44] cody-somerville: No, because that's on another computer. What should I look for? [01:44] For where your usb flash drive is mounted [01:46] It lists a folder - /dev/sda1 - which I can't access. [01:47] It says it's not a folder. [01:47] /dev/sda1 is the device [01:47] And I imagine it is your hd and not your usb thumb drive [01:47] are you on a desktop or a laptop? [01:48] usb drives are ussally /dev/sdb1 [01:48] I'm on a laptop. The other (broken) computer is a laptop. [01:48] CloseYetFar:You're right. It's not working either, though. [01:49] your just trying to mount a flash drive? [01:49] I'm trying to copy a file to it. [01:50] what out put do you get with the "mount" command [01:50] A lot of things that aren't sdb1. [01:50] cd ~/Desktop && mkdir flash && sudo mount /dev/sda1 ~/Desktop/flash [01:50] maybe? [01:51] run fdisk -l and see if you see the flash drive at all [01:52] Cannot open /dev/sda [01:52] Cannot open /dev/sdb [01:53] b0rked, when you do "df -h" do you see your flash drive listed there? [01:53] ussally it gets mounted to /media i think [01:53] well somewhere in /media [01:53] CloseYetFar, yeah, most of the time /media/disc [01:53] It's not there. [01:54] err maybe it's /media/disk [01:54] b0rked, do "lsusb" and see if you see it in that list [01:54] It's not listed under df. It is, however, under LSUSB. [01:54] b0rked, what do you see when you do "ls /media/" [01:55] run fdisk -l and tell me what /dev files are listed [01:56] Here's something interesting: In a terminal I was ignoring, I got the following when the drive was plugged in: sd 3:0:0:0 : [sdb] Assuming drive cache: Write through [01:56] do you see anything about it when you do a dmesg tail? [01:57] cd ~/Desktop && mkdir flash && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 ~/Desktop/flash [01:57] try that [01:57] makes sense [01:59] CloseYetFar: Worked! [01:59] lol [02:00] helps if you specify the correct device, eh? [02:00] cool [02:02] Copy works like this, yes? cp (old file location) (new file) [02:02] find the file you want, then do "cp (filename) ~/Desktop/flash" [02:03] that will put it on the flashdrive.. unless you want it in a folder on the flashdrive or something [02:03] yea [02:04] to copy dirs with files in it use the -R flag [02:06] b0rked, before you take the flashdrive out, i would advise unmounting it with "sudo umount /dev/sdb1" [02:06] o well [02:06] or not :p [02:06] lol [02:07] how would you mount the cd drive? [02:07] sudo mount /dev/cdrom? [02:07] sure [02:07] since Jaunty is acting retarded and not automounting [02:08] you guys are all running the beta? [02:08] heh, i'm still in intrepid [02:09] yea i only upgrade when i have too [02:09] well, technically, you never HAVE to :P [02:09] Intrepid had some issues with my lappy [02:09] when 9.04 comes out will it come out with LTS [02:09] works great on my lappy [02:09] if its not broken dont fix it [02:11] trying to mount the CD-rom drive errors out [02:11] what error do you get? [02:12] mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0 [02:12] do you have a cd in there? [02:12] try "mount /dev/hda1 /media/cdrom" [02:12] i have a dvd [02:12] oh [02:12] well then, try sudo mount /dev/dvd [02:12] use tab completion on that dvd part [02:13] no media [02:13] i'm going to try a PS2 disc === gorgut is now known as gorgut_AFK [02:14] since that uses the same fs as cd-roms [02:14] do "cat /etc/fstab" and look for cdrom or dvd or something [02:16] i tried sudo mount /dev/scd0, and stll got nothing [02:17] what about sudo mount /dev/hda1 [02:18] i dont have a hda1 [02:18] i have a sda1 though [02:19] will it mount with the gui at all [02:19] it's already mounted [02:20] to what dir [02:20] to / [02:20] is this a live cd [02:20] no [02:21] can you paste the output to "df -h" [02:23] df -h isn't going to show it since it's not mounted [02:23] he just said it was mounted lol [02:23] oh [02:23] nm then :p [02:23] wait [02:23] he said /sda1 is. that's the hd [02:23] not the dvdrom [02:24] you have to specify a mount location.. i like putting those kinda things on the desktop, but that's just me.. [02:25] cd ~/Desktop && mkdir DVD && sudo mount /dev/scd0 ~/Desktop/DVD [02:25] should get you close [02:25] ok.. actually afk this time. [02:25] bbl [02:28] look in your /etc/fstab for a line like this [02:29] /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [02:29] /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [02:29] or /media/dvd [02:29] the /media/cdrom0 is there [02:30] nothing else? [02:30] it just didn't make an icon on the desktop [02:30] what /dev/ is before the /media/cdrom0 [02:31] /dev/scd0 [02:33] do "mount /media/cdrom0" then go to /media/cdrom0 to see if there is anything there [02:33] only thing is, it says the DVD inserted is 19Gb big [02:33] i'm thinking the CD-rom drive is bad [02:33] can you use a normal dvd [02:33] do dmesg [02:34] it's a CD-r/rw and DVD-rom [02:35] ok, what should I look for in dmesg? [02:37] take the disk out and put it back in then try to mount it, "mount /dev/scd0" then run dmesg and see it the bottom most messages give you any clues [02:40] nothing [02:40] hmm im really not sure [02:41] people have been having problems with drives mounting lately [02:42] yea its pretty common [03:13] can i safely get rid of the bluetooth packages if my computer doesn't support bluetooth [03:24] o7 [03:43] closeyetfar: do you have GRUB2? [03:53] nope [03:53] grub --version [03:53] grub (GNU GRUB 0.97) [07:43] I freshly installed Xubuntu 8.10 on my desktop, but I'm having trouble getting a resolution higher than 800x600 with nvidia accelerated graphics driver...any help? [07:45] Card is an FX 5500... [08:29] set your resolution in nvidia x server settings [08:30] then update your xorg.conf with the nvidia driver [08:30] after that goto aplications/settings/settingsmanager/display [08:30] and set it to default [09:41] hello [09:41] anyone around wo can help me? [09:41] ^_^ [10:04] Ubuntu 8.10 (couldn't get help at #ubuntu). Trying to delete files in file transfer folder on USB music player via Nautilus 2.24.1. "Error while deleting. Error removing file: Read-only file system" I am logged in as the owner of the directory which has "Create and delete files" folder access. [10:29] Morning :) === dvdm__ is now known as dvdm [12:02] Hi - I'm not sure if #xubuntu has a specific beta-channel for the upcoming 9.04, but I just wanted to praise the work that's been done in the beta so far. Looks'n'feels great! :P [13:06] how do i install a theme that I have downloaded? === MrNaz` is now known as MrNaz [13:39] whats thundar coded in? [13:47] !mount [13:47] For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !QtParted - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap [14:29] I have xfce on a dual head system. Is there a key to switch focus between screens? [14:43] having problems with fan running on high all the time after installing xubuntu 8.10 on a sony vaio rx550. This is a known issue and the resolution seems to be outlined here: http://www.backports.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238566&page=2 However, this solution is from 6.10 days and it just isn't working for me. I instlled lm-sensors and ran sensor-detect and seem to have been successful with that. Any ideas? [14:45] One person said what helped solve the problem was "sudo modprobe it87 fix_pwm_polarity=1" But how do I load it87 in the first place as running that line does nothing? === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [14:48] Does lsmod show it87 as already loaded? [14:50] Araneidae, I dont have the computer here (it is at friends house) but I think no [14:51] Alas [14:51] Oh, sorry [14:51] I was muddled there [14:51] Araneidae so do I need to do edit the /etc/modprobe.d/options and add a line about options it87 fix_pwm_polarity=1? [14:51] However I would have expected modprobe to have doen the trick [14:52] Did it just silently do nothing? [14:52] yes, if memory serves me right [14:52] Huh. [14:52] Anything in syslog (or messages)? [14:52] no, now i rememeber [14:53] FATAL: Error inserting it87 [14:53] No such device [14:55] Aha [14:55] Bit of a broad hint there! Unfortunately I have no idea... [14:55] what is it87? [14:56] because i don't have it eighter [14:56] A fan sensor, I'm guessing [14:56] Well, maybe it is something optional that has to be installed via editing /etc/modprobe.d/options [14:57] http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/hwmon/it87 [14:57] hmm [14:57] Well, you have to have the physical sensor in your system too -- that'd be my guess [14:57] I would have thought that something like this would have been fixed before we got to 8.10 if this has been an issue with sony vaios since 6.10 [14:58] i know my lappy has a fan sensor, windows used it all the time [14:58] Sure -- but does it have an it87 sensor? [14:58] it doesn't show it in lsmod [15:00] Araneidae obviously from the link I first posted, others have gotten this to work on a sony vaio rx550. My point is that I just dont see how they did it. I installed lm-sensors, I ran sensors-detect (and it87 never came up) [15:00] i dont see any sensors for the fan [15:01] J_Litewski look at http://www.backports.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238566&page=2 and tell me what you think [15:01] Anything interesting in /sys/class/hwmon ? [15:02] after I installed lm-sensors and xsensors, I can see what the fan speed is. But I cannot control them [15:02] xsensors give a nice gui with fan speed....and it is full blast by the way....but no way to control. [15:02] Sorry, no idea! [15:03] Araneidae thanks for trying,. Maybe you can help with other issue [15:03] Ok. You have any thoughts on this question (I asked just before you came): [15:03] I have xfce on a dual head system. Is there a key to switch focus between screens? [15:03] Seems on topic for an xubuntu channel! [15:04] laptop or desktop? [15:04] Does it matter? [15:04] They have different DEVICE names: :0.0 and :0.1 [15:05] Desktop, as it happens [15:07] well, if it was a lappy, all you would need to do is press fn+one of the function keys to switch between displays [15:07] since it's a desktop, i think you need to assign a keyboard shortcut to do that === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [15:08] on this same pc, when it was at my house, I installed xubuntu and I had an lcd monitor. The system installed fine and worked at 1024 x 768. When I took it to my friends house- they have a crt monitor and somehow the graphics got changed and 800x600 is max. How do I fix it so we can get 1024 x 768 (I know both card and monitor support this). [15:08] i had the same problem [15:08] I've got two screens, but I don't know of a command to switch focus between them [15:08] clear xorg.conf [15:08] I'm happy to bind a shortcut ... but what to?! [15:09] I guess I need a program which can hand focus over to a particular screen... any thoughts on how to do that? [15:09] something like ctrl+Alt+F3 [15:09] Dante123, have you taken a look at the Display Settings? [15:09] No, that's virtual desktop switching [15:10] I have two physical screens [15:10] and two DISPLAY contexts, one on each [15:10] Araneidae, not exactly, that's Ctrl+Alt+3 ;-) [15:10] More like virtual screens... Or something :S [15:10] well, i'm just saying to bind it to a combonation like that [15:10] But *what* do I bind to the combination! [15:11] ah [15:11] * Araneidae goes to grovel through keyboard binding settings [15:11] good point [15:12] Definitely need a command to run. [15:12] Araneidae, which version of Xubuntu are you using? [15:12] How do I find out? [15:12] Araneidae, first backup and clear xorg.conf [15:12] I'm on Ubunut 8.10 [15:12] Araneidae, Xubuntu or Ubuntu? [15:13] Ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop installed on top [15:13] Currently logged in using xfce [15:13] Right... [15:13] Well, it's not really a solution for now, but I heard the next version of Xubuntu, when it's released, will play a lot nicer with multiple screens [15:13] J_Litewski, There's nothing wrong with my xorg.conf! [15:14] Is that going to come out with 9.04 as well? I don't mind waiting... [15:14] you said that your display won't go above 800x600, correct? [15:14] eh? [15:14] No, not me [15:14] oh [15:14] I have 1920x1200 on the left, 1280x1024 on the right [15:15] Araneidae, yes, 9.04 is the next version, but I'm not sure if it will solve your particular problem [15:15] Dual head has advantages and disadvantages... [15:15] ah, Dante123, backup and clear xorg.conf [15:15] Well, I've been playing with various desktop managers. Unfortunately hacking dwm involves rather a lot of low level Xlib programming! [15:16] sorry Araneidae [15:16] np [15:16] * Araneidae isn't mad enough to take that kind of advice blindly! [15:16] ^.^ [15:17] vinnl and J_Litewski I tried reconfiguring x but still get same results no choice higher than 800 x 600 [15:17] J_Litewski how exactly do you "clear" x org.conf [15:17] sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf and delete everything [15:17] after backing it up [15:18] of course [15:18] `sudo sh -c 'echo >/etc/X11/org.conf'` will work [15:18] J_Litewski the crappy 800 x 600 display gets in my way of fixing the fan control problem [15:18] Or sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11.conf.1~ [15:18] Ooops [15:18] X server, at least for me, doesn't depend on xorg.conf anymore [15:18] followed by `sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf` [15:18] sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1~ [15:18] J_Litewski do you save the blank file as xorg.conf again??/ [15:18] Which moves xorg.conf to xorg.conf.1~ [15:18] if it needs to be present (which is what I assumed by "clear") [15:19] and then reboot? [15:19] Dante123, be sure to first make a backup! [15:19] or restart X [15:19] C-A-Backspace [15:19] okay [15:19] which I read somewhere is going to be disable by default in the next release :( [15:19] Yeah I read that too [15:19] Araneidae, 9.04 doesn't support X restart anymore :( [15:19] yeah, i think disabling ctrl-alt-backspace is stupid [15:20] well, disabled :/ [15:20] You can re-enable it anytime you want to [15:20] * J_Litewski wants to know how to do that [15:20] I think the reasons for disabling it (from what I have read) are shallow and stupid. [15:20] First think I will do is enable it after install [15:21] Well, unfortunately, I think Ubuntu is trying more and more to target the shallow and the stupid :( [15:21] Just read the jaunty release notes. http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta [15:22] vinnl and J_Litewski and Araneidae- I also thought maybe starting off xubuntu livecd (copying the xorg.conf file from that) and putting it into the installed xubuntu version [15:22] providing of course that livecd allows me to go 1024 x 768 [15:22] what are your thoughts on that approach [15:22] now they are at the letter j, but what comes after z? [15:23] Dante123, I believe the xorg.conf file in the new releases is nearly empty, so that won't be of much help :P [15:23] slow-motion: my guess is it starts again at a [15:23] *omfg* we are doomed, no ubuntu after z [15:23] Dante123, do you have a xorg.conf.1 file? [15:23] slow-motion, definitely, they'll stop the whole project at that time [15:23] noooo *cries* [15:24] aa = aardvark [15:24] vinnl what if running off livecd gives me 1024 x 768 on that hardware? J_Litewski, I already backed up xorg.conf to xorgold.conf and did ctrl-alt-back and I guess it recreated a xorg.conf file but still only 800 x 600 is top. [15:25] Dante123, what is your graphics card? [15:25] J_Litewski also computer is at a friends house- so I cant do much from here. [15:25] Dante123, so is the xorg.conf file you have now still empty? [15:25] charlie-tca, heh, nice solution :P [15:27] J_Litewski hang on...it is an agp Asus AGP-V3800M [15:27] What's the xorg.conf command to turn C-A-Del back again? THe release notes don't say [15:27] Araneidae, yes they do [15:27] Araneidae, dontzap --disable [15:27] They say use the command `dontzap --disable` [15:27] vinnl very sparse. Bare minimum from what I remembered- like configured monitor, etc. a couple lines for each thing [15:27] Oh [15:28] I assume that needs to be run on each restart? [15:28] Dante123, right, I guess what you'd get with a LiveCD wouldn't be much different [15:28] Dunno, actually -- doesn't seem to be part of 8.10 anyway [15:28] Araneidae, I would assume the opposite, but there's only one way of finding out ;-) [15:28] ya [15:28] Wait and see (no program, so no man page) [15:29] Dante123, is the monitor connected to the card an LCD? [15:29] Oh, google delivers [15:29] is there a dvd copy progrm for xubuntu? [15:29] !dvd [15:29] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [15:29] Hmm... [15:29] i only know k9copy [15:30] I suppose there is, somewhere :P [15:30] You could use that :) [15:30] J_Litewski no crt (but when I first installed xubuntu the tower was at my house connected to my lcd) [15:30] i thinks thats the problem [15:30] http://www.videohelp.com/capturecards/asus-v3800/83 [15:30] J_Litewski but the card and monitor are able to handle 1024 x 768 cause pc is dualboot with windows and windows can even go up higher than that [15:31] J_Litewski, yeah that is the problem. But the solution is? [15:31] is it a flashable card? [15:31] J_Litewski I have no idea what you mean? [15:32] does it have an onboard flashable rom? [15:32] no idea [15:32] ah, it uses the TNT2 engine :\ [15:34] i had problems when I installed xubuntu on a desktop running a TNT2 m64 [15:34] J_Litewski maybe I just reinstall xubuntu and see what happens on fresh install on the hardware that it is going to be using all the time (although fan problem will persist) I gotta have better rez than 800 x 600 or forget it. [15:34] acually, same problem as you Dante123 [15:35] J_Litewski why would it work with lcd monitor at higher rez then? [15:35] not sure [15:35] J_Litewski and what did you do to solve your problem? [15:35] i didn't [15:36] hmm, I think I will go the livecd route and see what resolutions I get using that. If necessary I will do fresh install [15:36] windows, it would go up to 1280x1024, linux, 800x600 [15:36] that doesn't make much sense to me. [15:36] it doesn't [15:36] but thats what happened [15:36] What it can do in one, it should be able to do in the other. Now configuring it to do that is another matter, but it should be possible. [15:37] depending if the drivers are compliant [15:37] i believe NVidia supports Linux, but i'm not sure [15:38] here is the actual specs on the machine http://www.docs.sony.com/release/specs/PCVRX550_mksp.pdf [15:38] 4X AGP 3D Graphics Hardware Acceleration [15:38] (nVIDIA® TNT2 M64) [15:38] 32 MB Video Memory [15:41] do you have the nVidia setting config? [15:41] (nvidia-settings)? [15:43] J_Litewski nope, when I run hardware drivers it says that no proprietary drivers on this system (so nvidia enable choice is never given) [15:44] I guess if I got into that manual configuriation (after wiping out xorg.conf) maybe I could select a nvidia legacy driver or something [15:46] i would try and install the nvidia-settings [15:48] J_Litewski how is that done? [15:48] sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings ???? [15:48] yep [15:49] so leave current xorg.conf along and just run sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings. Then will a menu item appear for xubuntu under applications or system settings or what? [15:50] not sure, i don't run a nvidia card [15:51] hmm...well....I guess it is worth a try [15:51] thanks for help [15:51] i'm reading up on people having problems with the TNT2 card using the 2.6 kernel [15:52] well, the fact that it worked before with lcd screen. make me think that when it detected that the hardware changed it just went into some failsafe configuration that does not go past 800 x 600. [15:52] it may [15:52] I'm thinking running the livecd and seeing what resolutions are available might be a good idea. [15:53] thats what happened to me when i plugged in my Sony SDM-M51 [15:54] xorg.conf was set to that screen, not my lappy screen [15:54] this is older hardware- and the fact is that there are more issues with the old stuff than the new [15:54] and not installing it with the actual hardware it was going to be using (monitor) complicates the matter [15:54] so maybe a fresh install will do the trick [15:54] is there a terminal command to find out which version of xubuntu i'm running? [15:55] arooo, $ lsb_release -r [15:55] Though you can also check in System Monitor [15:55] thank you [16:05] how do i set hddtemp with root privileges? === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [16:08] nevermind [16:08] heh, lm-sensor says the fan is off... [16:09] yet it's running at full force [16:11] It might be instructive to poke around in /sys/class/hwmon/* -- I think those are all your sensors [16:11] kk [16:12] * J_Litewski likes the terminal :) [16:13] only thing in /sys/class/hwmon is hwmon0 [16:14] oh, nevermind [16:15] nothing useful in there Araneidae [16:15] Actually, my desktop hwmon is a bit boring: hwmon0/temp_input = 40 degrees, and that's about it [16:16] Yes, I was working on an embedded device with *loads* of hwmon entries [16:16] I think hwmon/hwmon*/name is the physical sensor name [16:16] ah [16:16] At least you can see what the sensor is reporting [16:16] brb, doughnut timez [16:17] (I don't seem to have any fan sensors) [16:17] !firefox [16:17] firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins [16:23]