[00:00] <Waldir> hi everyone. I was wondering whether it was possible to change the password masking character (e.g if i wanted to use asterisks instead)
[00:01] <lovre> printing help please.....i first installed the printer and i was getting an error about foomatic-rip failed, then i copied ppd file to the /usr/share/cups/ folder and now i dont get the error anymore, but the printer is not responding. CUPS says job is done, but nothing is printed..
[00:04] <yml> anyone has an idea on why the screen could blink on the live cd of kubunto 9.04
[00:08] <heavenmetal> nobody has ever encountered this?
[00:09] <heavenmetal> 'kernel alive' lock
[00:09] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: I've not.  You googled it?
[00:09] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: .. and why aren't you just using the linuxmce install?
[00:10] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: There should be no need to install 7.04 first - just use the mce installer..
[00:10] <heavenmetal> it's doing the same thing
[00:10] <frogonwheels> oh.
[00:11] <heavenmetal> I've tried to set different boot parameters using F6 at the Kubuntu splash screen..
[00:11] <frogonwheels> QUote: "I bypassed it by hitting F6 for the advanced options line at the installer boot screen, removing the splash option and adding noapic."
[00:11] <frogonwheels> did you try that?
[00:12] <heavenmetal> yeah :/
[00:12] <Waldir> er... guyscan anyone give me a hint about my question? whether it is possible to change the password masking character
[00:13] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: have you tried the non-gui installer?
[00:13] <heavenmetal> i haven't tried the non gui installer no
[00:13] <heavenmetal> you mean like if i hit ESC at splash?
[00:15] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: nah - there's an um.. i think it's 'alternate' install cd
[00:15] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal:  have you tried running an 8.10 live disk?
[00:15] <HolyScott> Who do I find out if something I found broken, is known broke, and if its kde or kubunu
[00:15] <rob> ok..so I downloaded the wine packet, went into a terminal and recieved this message:
[00:15] <rob> wine: configuration in '/home/rob/.wine' has been updated.
[00:15] <rob> wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\Gaddis_ProgLogic.exe": Module not
[00:15] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: you could always try the linuxmce alpha for 8.10
[00:16] <HolyScott> Evertime I resume from sleep, my one battery bar turns into 2 battery bars
[00:16] <heavenmetal> i haven't but the admins on the linuxmce board say -as of feb 09- that linuxmce runs on 7.10, not 8.10, although there is an 8.10 alpha.. not available for 'normal' use
[00:17] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal:  yeah. sure. I've tried it, and it did have some issues.
[00:17] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: I'm running mythbuntu now.
[00:18] <kaddi> rob: from what I know this is not a file, that is installed by default with wine. it isn't present in my installation.
[00:18] <heavenmetal> in the meantime, i might as well try mythbuntu or mythdora..
[00:18] <kaddi> rob You might get lucky by simply copying the missing file from your windows to wine if you can find it there
[00:18] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: What you want to use it for?
[00:18] <heavenmetal> htpc, pretty much
[00:18] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: If you don't want to do massive amounts of automation and stuff, don't use linuxmce
[00:18] <kaddi> rob otherwise there is a special helpchannel, where they can surely help. (or someone else might know)
[00:19] <kaddi> rob: #winehq
[00:19] <heavenmetal> so you're happy with mythbuntu?
[00:19] <rob> I am sorry...i downloaded wine and tried to install the cdrom for the application and that was the message i recieved. i suppose that this progam will not run on linux
[00:19] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: Yes.
[00:19] <heavenmetal> is there a channel for it here?
[00:19]  * frogonwheels shrugs.
[00:20] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: probably the best thing is that it's not so 'special'
[00:20] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: so if you want myth support, goto #myth .. if you want Ubuntu support, goto #ubuntu
[00:20] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: .. and ditto for xfce
[00:21] <heavenmetal> i don't know anything about mythbuntu.. what compromises do you feel you made in using it over against linxmce?
[00:21] <kaddi> rob: maybe try #winehq they know wine better than me ;)
[00:21] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal:  it doesn't work so well using just a mouse.
[00:22] <heavenmetal> so you use like an airboard or sth
[00:22] <rob> ok.thanks
[00:23] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: well if I had a remote, that would be better.
[00:23] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: at the moment, I just use an usb extension cord ;)
[00:24] <heavenmetal> mythbuntu handles all media or just tv?
[00:24] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: well.. all video media definitely.
[00:24] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: but linuxmce sux at audio media
[00:25] <frogonwheels> heavenmetal: for audio, I use elisa  or  amarok
[00:26] <heavenmetal> i'm getting like 750kB/s from this one kimsufi box so hopefully i can check it out pretty soon :>
[00:27] <heavenmetal> i'm wondering if it's going to hate the nvidia 9600 gt or not..
[00:39] <randy__> Hi there, how do I make my shell script run in terminal from the desktop.
[00:40] <frogonwheels> randy__:  if you add a shortcut, doesn't it have a checkbox?
[00:42] <randy__> Oh I see, creat a shortcut to the shell script, rather than running the shell script directly. Thank you
[00:48] <rickey> hello i was updateing my adept manager files messed up and it frozes . need the command to unfrezz it
[00:49] <rickey> the sudo command to unlock adept manager
[00:50] <genii> !aptfix
[00:50] <rickey> thats it ty
[00:50] <genii> np
[02:54] <david__> hello
[02:54] <david__> where are the settings of konqueror for root user saved?
[02:54] <tsimpson> in /root/.kde
[02:55] <david__> tsimpson, what would the file be?
[02:55] <tsimpson> /root/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc probably
[02:56] <tsimpson> though it's probably easier to do "kdesudo konqueror" and use the GUI to change the settings
[02:56] <david__> tsimpson, konquerorrc only contains [$Version]
[02:56] <david__> update_info=kfmclient_3_2.upd:kfmclient_3_2
[02:57] <david__> is there a file with the default settings? that would be used when the user has none?
[03:00] <cristian> hi... i have a problem... i have kde4 and i was playing with the taskbar.. and.. it desapear
[03:01] <david__> i think its an applet
[03:01] <david__> cristian, try right clicking on a panel and add applet, then choose taskbar
[03:01] <tsimpson> you can try /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/konquerorrc
[03:02] <cristian> mmmm...
[03:02] <david__> tsimpson, the system im on is ubuntu based but not kubuntu directly. it has kde but not the kubuntu-default-settings folder...any ideas?
[03:03] <david__> cristian, does that work?
[03:03] <cristian> no...
[03:04] <tsimpson> there is /usr/share/kde4/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[03:04] <tsimpson> and /usr/share/kde4/config.kcfg/konqueror.kcfg
[03:04] <david__> in the kde4 folder there is a config folder but not a config.kcfg
[03:05] <david__> and no knonquerorrc in config
[03:06] <david__> ill try doing the gui settings and see if it saves a konquerorrc somewhere
[03:06] <david__> thanks
[03:06] <david__> ill be back
[03:06] <cristian> i want the start icon.. i have task bar on the top.. but not the common bar in the bottom
[03:07] <Hydrant> Hello all... I'm on 8.10 and just reset my 'puter to find that KDE is screwed up... everything is dark when I login to KDE, but I can see a light shadow around boxes when I say run xcalc with DISPLAY set
[03:07] <cristian> that appear when the system was installed
[03:07] <Hydrant> I just updated my system this morning, so I'm not sure if it was a bad update or what happened
[03:09] <Hydrant> hrrm... it came back when I did a kwin --replace then exited that kwin
[03:09] <Hydrant> some bug but not sure I can reproduce it
[03:25] <Newbee> morgen
[03:26] <Newbee> good morning
[03:28] <Newbee> I have the following problem: I have upgraded to jaunty and everything went well. But as I wanted to watch a video in miro plama crashed and I am unable to restart it. reboot does not help and when I run plasma in konsole I get an error saying something about D-Bus.
[03:28] <theguy_1> iv been having probs trying to install kubuntu on my laptop. for awhile i thought it was my download of the file and with my net connection so slow i never redownloaded it but had them send the cd. if just got here today and when i do the install besides windows it installs good with no erros but when i restart the computer it asks me windows or kubuntu, i put kubuntu and it goes right past where you see the kubuntu logo
[03:28] <theguy_1> after that it just shows code error about freeze something
[03:29] <Newbee> I hope my Engish is understandable. It would be verry nice if you could help me. I have no idea what to do.
[03:30] <frogonwheels>  theguy_1: about plasma. You might want to investigate your configs in ~/.kde/  - I've solved a similar crash by removing a shortcut I'd added to the desktop.
[03:30] <frogonwheels> .. so I had to remove bits from the  kde configs and eventually got it to work.
[03:31] <theguy_1> thats the prob its never been able to load all the way.
[03:31] <Newbee> frogonwheels: is your advice concerning my problem or his?
[03:31] <theguy_1> i use to run freebsd and was told to check out kubuntu cus it was better but iv never been able to check it out cus it never starts up all the way
[03:32] <theguy_1> i have a Averatec 6200 series laptop
[03:32] <frogonwheels> theguy_1:  this is even just running the live CD?
[03:32] <frogonwheels> this is 2 separate issues yeah?
[03:33] <frogonwheels> oh sorry
[03:33] <frogonwheels> no
[03:33] <frogonwheels> Newbee: : about plasma. You might want to investigate your configs in ~/.kde/  - I've solved a similar crash by removing a shortcut I'd added to the desktop.
[03:34] <theguy_1> yes, either way it gets right past the kubuntu loading screen and starts showing code like a2a0 something and freeze
[03:34] <theguy_1> i have a pic of it i can send
[03:34] <frogonwheels> now onto theguy_1 -   you can still run windows?  Which bootloader are you using
[03:35] <theguy_1> im using the one it makes with the cd
[03:36] <theguy_1> i tried to install it besides windows without repartitioning the hard drive and i did it the other way
[03:36] <Newbee> frogonwheels: I really want to investigate this if that will lead me to the solutoin of the problem, but I fear that my knowledge will be not enough. If you had some advice where to look and what to do, if would probably be a great help
[03:37] <frogonwheels> theguy_1:  you might look at some help about dualbooting with grub and windows/linux  it's been a while since I've done that .. however I DO know that there can be issues.
[03:37] <frogonwheels> theguy_1:   ooh.. you don't have a thumb drive plugged in do you?
[03:38] <frogonwheels> theguy_1: oh sorry - just reading.  without repartitioning the hard drive?  where did you install it?
[03:40] <frogonwheels> Newbee:  bring up a console and have a poke round in the ~/.kde/ directory for plasama and desktop related settings.
[03:40] <frogonwheels> Newbee: hmm..  strace might even help.  it might tell you what config it's reading when it crashes.
[03:40] <theguy_1> i installed it inside windows...i put the cd in and it auto runs and gives us the option to install it and delete windows or install it inside windows,,i did that one..and it also says i can just restart the computer and try it out without changing anything to the hard drive and it does the same thing that way also
[03:42] <theguy_1> i took a picture with my phone with wut it does after the kubuntu loading screen
[03:42] <theguy_1> i can send it to u
[03:43] <frogonwheels> so if yout boot off the CD, it still does the same?
[03:43] <theguy_1> yup
[03:44] <frogonwheels> imagebin.ca it
[03:45] <frogonwheels> theguy_1:  did you try the 9.04 cd?
[03:45] <frogonwheels> theguy_1:  it might be that you have to set some boot options to stop it from freezing on some hardware .. :|
[03:45] <theguy_1> http://imagebin.ca/view/8kP76Ll4.html
[03:47] <theguy_1> n e ideas
[03:48] <stroud> anybody else having a problem with the akonadi startup - akonadi not registered with dbus?
[03:48] <stroud> this is occurring in jaunty
[03:49] <jithine> any one seeing graphical corruption in jaunty kde 4
[03:50] <stroud> mine seems ok - ati rage w/o the accel 3d driver
[03:50] <theguy_1> frogonwheels: did u check out the picture? it just does that over and over
[03:50] <jithine> i am seeing holes in applications
[03:50] <frogonwheels> theguy_1:   boot the live - and remove the quiet option  .. possibly pci=nommconf   - look at other boot options to try (google)
[03:51] <jithine> making to redraw them clears them
[03:51] <theguy_1> tried, same thing
[03:51] <frogonwheels> theguy_1:  what options have you tried?
[03:52] <frogonwheels> theguy_1:   have you tried simplifying your periferals?
[03:52] <theguy_1> all of them but the WHOLE install cus i dont wanna format windows and everything and it just does the same thing
[03:53] <frogonwheels> theguy_1:  you tried -noapic  ??
[03:53] <frogonwheels> sorry.l. just     noapic   on the boot options
[03:54] <frogonwheels> I gg.  but you might want to say whether it's 32bit or 64bit you're trying, what your CPU is .. what chipsets are around on your board,
[03:55] <frogonwheels> oh, and try the 'alternate' cd.
[03:56] <theguy_1> one person said it could be that my cpu or memory is bad
[03:58] <phantmi> i am using kubuntu 8.04 amd64 i have LAMP server installed and samba as well as Unreal3.2.7 i would to set Unreal3.2.7 to autostart on reboot as the LAMP server and others do already how is this done?
[03:59] <Gon> check the update-rc.d script
[03:59] <Gon> or...
[03:59] <Gon> sysvconfig package
[04:01] <phantmi> i have looked around the internet but to no avail ...
[04:01] <phantmi> ok
[04:01] <theguy_1> so anyone else have any ideas on my kubuntu prob?
[04:03] <phantmi> i must say that i like kde 3.5.10 better than kde 4+
[04:03] <phantmi> later i will go look some more
[04:05] <Newbee> I think that my problem might have something to do with the networkmanager plasmoid, because after initialising this plasma fails.
[04:05] <Newbee> does anybody know how to remove this plasmoid without being able to launch plasma?
[04:06] <Newbee> I mean unload the plasmoid
[04:06] <theguy_1> http://imagebin.ca/view/8kP76Ll4.html  <--- this is wut i get. it installs just fine but after i restart and it trys to load this is all it does over and over
[04:07] <Newbee> removing the plasma configs has worked for me!
[04:08] <Newbee> thanks folks for your help
[04:14] <frogonwheels> Newbee: excellent
[05:06] <josh-l> anyone know how to change the kmenu icon?
[05:20] <lampe> hello
[05:21] <lampe> need some help with eclipse and ruby can someone help pls
[05:28] <rraajj> Hi! I´m having this weird problem with the keyboard in KDE 4. I need to press some keys twice (mostly punctuation keys) to get the actual characters mapped in them. For instance, I need to press the ´ key twice before I actually get ´.
[05:29] <rraajj> If I press a letter after the said weird keys, they transform into other characters. (e.g., ´ + m == ḿ). Any ideas how to remove this ¨feature¨? It´s kinda annoying when you´re writing code...
[05:39] <xenile> hey guys i gota program called yakuake its a terminal window that drops down liket he quake command window and well.. sence i upgraded to 9.2b when i use yakuake its slow and choppy when i comes down
[05:40] <xenile> anyone know how i can fix this as yakuake is my favorite program and i use it verry often ide rather the animation be smooth
[05:40] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that xenile
[05:40] <xenile> what u mean?
[05:40] <bazhang> jaunty?
[05:40] <xenile> yes
[05:40] <xenile> jaunty
[05:40] <bazhang> !jaunty
[05:40] <bazhang> see above ^^
[05:41] <xenile> k il go their and ask
[05:42]  * genii wonders for a moment if yakuake could be at version 9 yet
[05:49] <deitarion> Which config file had the setting for number of old kernels to keep? I forget.
[05:51] <genii> deitarion: The "howmany=#" in /boot/grub/menu.lst will list only a given amount of them. But this does not mean the others will be deinstalled automatically or anything, you still need to do this manually
[05:52] <deitarion> genii: Drat. Is there some kind of meta-package name that can be used to remove the kernel, all modules, and all headers with a single removal request?
[05:54] <genii> deitarion: Nothing automated that I know of. Manually is not so bad though if you know the exact kernel numbers to remove. eg:  sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.24-20-rt      as an example
[05:54] <rraajj> Drah. This ¨sticky key¨ problem is really annoying. :|
[06:29] <xenile> hey guys how do i make metacity my default window manager perminantly?
[06:38] <xenile> hey guys how do i make metacity my default window manager perminantly?
[06:43]  * genii sips and ponders mubuntu
[06:44] <yao_ziyuan> when hovering the mouse on Digital Clock,
[06:44] <yao_ziyuan> there is a tooltip showing the time and date
[06:45] <yao_ziyuan> what determines the language/format for displaying this time/date?
[06:45] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan, in jaunty?
[06:45] <yao_ziyuan> i set everything to english but the tooltip still shows the date in chinese
[06:46] <yao_ziyuan> bazhang: yes, sorry
[06:49] <yao_ziyuan> i set system locale, location, preferred kde ui language to english
[06:50] <yao_ziyuan> and pidgin is timestamping all irc and im messages with english timestamps
[06:50] <yao_ziyuan> but this Digital Clock's tooltip still shows the date in chinese
[06:50] <bazhang> !jaunty
[06:50] <yao_ziyuan> in konsole, i type:
[06:50] <yao_ziyuan> date
[06:50] <yao_ziyuan> it returns: Sun Mar 29 13:50:24 CST 2009
[06:51] <yao_ziyuan> i think Digital Clock caches the date text.
[06:51] <yao_ziyuan> how do i change date?
[06:54] <yao_ziyuan> i found why now!
[06:54] <yao_ziyuan> the "long date format" field in system settings / regional & language
[06:56] <yao_ziyuan> how do i sync time using a manual command?
[06:59] <genii> yao_ziyuan: sudo ntpdate <servername>             where servername is a time server somewhere on the internet to sync from
[06:59] <yao_ziyuan> found
[07:04] <yao_ziyuan> genii: it says "the NTP socket is in use, exiting"
[07:04] <yao_ziyuan> found
[07:04]  * genii sips
[07:06] <yao_ziyuan> google is one's friend
[07:06] <yao_ziyuan> genii: can you tell me the meaning of sips?
[07:07] <genii> yao_ziyuan: I drink much coffee. To get the coffee into my stomach I must sip it.
[07:09] <genii> yao_ziyuan: sip = 饮者
[07:09] <yao_ziyuan> i found the literal meaning
[07:10] <yao_ziyuan> but i wondered if it had figurative meanings.
[07:11] <genii> yao_ziyuan: Sometimes I "sip" so that others know I am still here and paying attention
[07:15] <amelie> hi
[07:15]  * genii hands amelie a large coffee
[07:15] <amelie> need help; can't hear sound on .flv file format....
[07:15] <amelie> thanks!
[07:15] <ianx6> #ubuntu
[07:17] <ianx6> sir is there anyone who cold help i just bought linksys wusb 54g ver 4 but when i use lsusb ang dmesg its not showing up
[07:18] <amelie> ???
[07:19]  * yao_ziyuan meows
[07:23] <rraajj> Hi! I have this weird keyboard problem. Some characters need to be pressed twice before I actually get the characters mapped to them. For example, to display ´, I need to press the ´ twice. Pressing it once transforms it into some sort of modifier key for special characters (e.g., if I press ´ once and then press m, I get ḿ). [distro: Kubuntu 8.10, KDE 4.2]
[07:23] <rraajj> Any idea how to turn this feature off? It is kind of annoying when writing code... Thank you very much!
[07:33] <linguaphile> rraajj: it sounds like you have the US international keyboard layout activated. You might look down in your system tray to see if there is a little flag icon listing your keyboard type
[07:34] <rraajj> linguaphile: Hi! I´ll try changing my layout now to see if it would help. Would I need to reboot/restart X after this?
[07:35] <linguaphile> rraajj: if this is the case, you go into system settings, click on Regional & Language, and go to Keyboard Layout. Selecting the USA keyboard, you would make sure the variant is the correct one (ie, not international)
[07:35] <linguaphile> rraajj: it should take effect immediately
[07:36] <linguaphile> ie, you shouldn't need to restart X, but if it doesn't take immediate effect, try restart X with Control+alt+backspace
[07:36] <rraajj> linguaphile: Oh, thanks! It worked! (I don't remember changing my layout to international, though... must've been the switch to KDE 4...)
[07:36] <rraajj> linguaphile: Thanks a bunch!
[07:36] <linguaphile> rraajj: you're welcome ^_^
[07:40] <cerecitas> morning i need to delete some plasmoids, i updated to 4.2 a week ago and the old ones are not compatible... it is causing me a bit of confusion, since i do not know exactly which are which and whenever i try to use an old one all freezes around... could someone tell me where are they stored??
[07:40] <cerecitas> or how to remove them?
[07:40] <yubinjie> hello everyone
[07:45] <theguy_1> iv tried EVERYTHING to get kubuntu to install on my Averatec 6200 series laptop still with no luck
[07:46] <genii> theguy_1: You tried the alternate cdrom text-based installer?
[07:48] <theguy_1> it installs just fine with whatever option of install i want...but after it installs and i reboots i come to the screen where it asks me windows or kubuntu, i pick kubuntu and it starts to open but right after the Kubuntu loading screen it just displays this error over and over again
[07:48] <theguy_1> genii: yea i tried that to
[07:48] <theguy_1> ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
[07:49] <genii> theguy_1: Loading the live cd or after on first boot?
[07:53] <theguy_1> i have tried EVERY witch way to install it...i tried to install it while im in windows so that it installs it beside windows without a partition, then i tried it in dos where i still have windows but it dual boots it with its own partition, iv tried the the option where i can just try kubuntu without changing the hard drive and still the same error msg
[07:54] <cerecitas> theguy_1: been doing a bit of googling... found this
[07:54] <cerecitas> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/279693 i do not know if is any useful
[07:54] <theguy_1> it installs just fine with no errors but when i try to start it up it gives me an error after the Kubuntu loading screen
[07:54] <theguy_1> ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
[08:01] <theguy_1> http://imagebin.ca/view/p4Zlsav.html
[08:03] <milk> i use KDE 4.2.1 with Firefox 3.0.8
[08:03] <milk> my firefox looks like puke
[08:03] <milk> why?
[08:03] <theguy_1> thats a pic i took with my cell of the error it does after the kubuntu loading screen
[08:05] <milk> konqueror looks pretty though
[08:32] <shaoq_> test
[08:33] <genii> !test
[08:42] <dingding> hello how can i find out if my computer is i386?
[08:43] <dingding> bazhang:hello how can i find out if my computer is i386?
[08:46] <brunoqc> dingding: uname -m ?
[08:50] <dingding> brunoqc:what?
[08:51] <brunoqc> try typing in the terminal : uname -m
[08:58] <holyguyver> Hello, I would like to know if it is possible for me to compile & then create a /deb file that contains Konqueror 3.5 & all of it's dependances in a way that it can be self contained & be installable on any debian based system?
[09:01] <bazhang> holyguyver, like kubuntu-desktop metapackage ?
[09:02] <holyguyver> Well like if I want to be able to easily install Konqueror 3.5 onto Kubuntu even  2 years in the future.
[09:03] <bazhang> holyguyver, honestly a ppa would be better suited to that.
[09:03] <holyguyver> What is a ppa?
[09:03] <bazhang> !ppa
[09:03] <holyguyver> But wouldn't that conflict with KDE 4 or in the future KDE 5?
[09:04] <bazhang> holyguyver, so for example the popular dvd ripping and encoding software handbrake did not exist for ubuntu; so someone made a ppa for it.
[09:04] <bazhang> err transcoding
[09:05] <holyguyver> But I am wondering if it would be possible to make a self contained konqueror 3.5 that wouldn't ever have conficts regardless to what system you installed it to as long as it was a deb system.
[09:05] <holyguyver> self contained, a konqueror with no dependances
[09:06] <bazhang> holyguyver, I doubt that, thus the suggestion for a ppa
[09:06] <holyguyver> So basicly someone would have to designa conqueror clone to be able to do that?
[09:06] <bazhang> it would not be ubuntu  (and this is getting offtopic )  :)
[09:07] <tsimpson> holyguyver: you'd create a PPA (or some other archive) and compile KDE to be installed to /opt/kde3, then it won't conflict
[09:07] <holyguyver> Of course it would not be Ubuntu, but it would be KDE related, so it is sort of on toppic for Kubuntu, but yes belongs more in #KDE
[09:09] <holyguyver> tsimpson, but would that ppa still work on the newest Kubuntu even if it had not been maintained for several years, like if created right now would it still work on Kubuntu 15.4?
[09:10] <tsimpson> holyguyver: as long as the core libraries it uses still exist
[09:10] <tsimpson> and remain ABI compatible
[09:11] <Andrea_21> l
[09:11] <holyguyver> Neat, so you mean the Ibex KDE-3 ppa will work perfectly on Jaunty?
[09:12] <tsimpson> holyguyver: can't say for sure, the libraries may have changed too much
[09:12] <tsimpson> the only way to make it "always" work, would be to link staticly, and I'm not sure that's possible
[09:12] <holyguyver> See that is what I am talkign about, I want to know if it would be possbile to make one that the libraries are self contained & therefore it would work on any future Kubuntu.
[09:13] <tsimpson> see previous message
[09:13] <tsimpson> although, why you'd want KDE3 in 15.4 I'll never know
[09:13] <holyguyver> Yeah, it was just a random date :p
[09:14] <holyguyver> But I do not want KDE3 only Konqueror 3.5
[09:14] <tsimpson> even in 9.10 or 10.04
[09:14] <holyguyver> I want a stand alone Konqueror that does not require external KDE libraries.
[09:14] <tsimpson> for konqueror you'll need a good amount of KDE3
[09:14] <holyguyver> Yes I know
[09:15] <tsimpson> as I said, you need to statically link somehow, and I'm not sure that's even possible (especially with Qt3 and all dependencies)
[09:15] <tsimpson> and the resulting binary will probably be >100MB
[09:16] <holyguyver> So back to what I said to baz, I guess I am just hoping for a konqueror clone :(
[09:16] <tsimpson> you could ask in #kde or #kde-devel if it's possible to build KDE3 libs and konqueror statically
[09:17] <holyguyver> The KDE4 Konqueror does not do split screen as well as 3.4 did. that is why I went from intrapid back to Hardy.
[09:47] <holyguyver> They said it would be possible, but it would take far too much effert, that it would be easier to make a clone.
[10:14] <xenile> hey guys
[10:15] <xenile> if anyone is thinking of using 9.4b please do we  need all the debuggers we can get
[10:15] <xenile> the system is sad with bugs
[10:16] <xenile> ;)
[10:31] <axel> Hello! I want to install a programm with wine but I get the error message that ~/.wine is not owned by me although I launched the installation-script with sudo.
[10:41] <axel> It works without sudo but only if you delete the tmp-folder, the program created launching it with sudo,
[10:54] <giles> Hey, I am using Jaunty 9.04 Beta
[10:54] <giles> I think I have fixed up a problem with mysqld not starting at boot
[10:54] <giles> is anyone else aware of this problem?
[10:55] <giles> firstly I had to install mysql-client-5.1  because the startup script has a dependency on mysqladmin
[10:56] <tsimpson> giles: 9.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[10:57] <giles> secondly, I had to make the script create a /var/run/mysqld directory and chown mysql:mysql /var/run/mysqld
[10:57] <giles> tsimpson: I don't know what you mean by that.
[10:58] <tsimpson> questions about/support for 9.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[10:58] <giles> oh its a channel name
[10:58] <giles> the +1 in the name looked odd to me.
[11:04] <giles> tsimpson: Its not really support I need I was just saying that I had a problem which I was able to fix, I thought it would be useful to someone.
[11:04] <wolfgang> hi everybody
[11:04] <wolfgang> i need help with an wireless usb antenna
[11:04] <wolfgang> i need to put in monitor mode
[11:05] <wolfgang> the antenna is the sr71-usb ubiquiti
[11:05] <wolfgang> i used the otus driver, and works fine with wep encriptions, but i cant put it on monitor mode
[11:05] <wolfgang> any idea?
[11:08] <giles> monitor mode?
[11:08] <wolfgang> yes
[11:08] <wolfgang> any idea?
[11:09] <giles> what do you mean by monitor mode?
[11:09] <wolfgang> inyection
[11:09] <wolfgang> airmon-ng start ath0 not works
[11:10] <wolfgang> yesterday i compile the otus driver... and works, but i cant inyect or use airodump-ng
[11:10] <giles> do you mean injection?
[11:11] <wolfgang> airmon-ng doesnt works with my antenna
[11:12] <wolfgang> inyect packets to use airodump-ng
[11:12] <giles> wolfgang: have you tried #aircrack-ng
[11:12] <wolfgang> yes, i have installed aircrack-ng,
[11:13] <wolfgang> and i type airmon-ng start ath0 and get error
[11:13] <wolfgang> i cant put it on monitor mode,
[11:13] <wolfgang> the antenna only works with iwlist ath0 scan
[11:13] <giles> wolfgang: I mean the #aircrack-ng irc channel
[11:13] <wolfgang> and iwconfig ath0 essid asdf key asdfadsfadsf
[11:13] <wolfgang> and works
[11:13] <wolfgang> but cant put in monitor mode...
[11:14] <wolfgang> i will try this channel
[11:14] <giles> wolfgang: are you sure you usb wirelss is compatible with airmon, not may devices are supported.
[11:14] <wolfgang> upps , im not sure..
[11:14] <giles> especially newer ones because they have been patched up IIRC
[11:14] <wolfgang> and what can i need to use it for inyection?
[11:15] <giles> wolfgang: AFAIK injection is something you would want to do to sniff wireless packets without connecting to a network
[11:15] <giles> wolfgang: I.e. for cracking WEP passwords
[11:16] <wolfgang> yes, i want this ...
[11:16] <giles> wolfgang: well dont, its evil.
[11:16] <wolfgang> evil? :)
[11:16] <wolfgang> and what is afaik? other inyection support?
[11:17] <giles> wolfgang: unless you are doinf it for "educational purposes"
[11:17] <giles> AFAIK == As Far As I Know
[11:17] <wolfgang> ah, ok
[11:17] <wolfgang> yes, my purposes are educational !!!
[11:17] <wolfgang> and learn wireless protocol and failures..
[11:18] <giles> or connect to your neighbours wireless router and have free internet ;)
[11:18] <wolfgang> yes
[11:18] <wolfgang> too
[11:19] <giles> anyway, you are better off in #aircrack-ng
[11:19] <wolfgang> yes, im going to tri on this channel
[11:20] <wolfgang> thanks... :)
[11:20] <wolfgang> LINUX FOREVER !!!!!!
[11:20] <giles> BTW wep cracking has been proven to be quite easy, but most people use WPA now, for cracking this Your Mileage may Vary (YMMV)
[11:20] <wolfgang> yes, wpa not interesting to me, because only vulnerable with a password dictionary attack
[11:21] <wolfgang> and i probe it and works
[11:21] <wolfgang> but if the ap uses special characters passwords is very hard to have a dictionary
[11:24] <wolfgang> or do you know other method without dictionary attack to wpa passwords?
[11:47] <renato> hello, what is apache standard user? I mean if I check on a web page on the local system with a browser, what user am I using? and what user is used by a net surfer connecting to my web page?
[11:50] <renato> hello, what is apache standard user? I mean if I check on a web page on the local system with a browser, what user am I using? and what user is used by a net surfer connecting to my web page?
[11:51] <thecaptain2000> hello, what is apache standard user? I mean if I check on a web page on the local system with a browser, what user am I using? and what user is used by a net surfer connecting to my web page?
[11:53] <thecaptain2000> anybody home?
[12:32] <wolfgang> hi, sombody can tell me how can i compila this one?: http://pastebin.com/m4274804a
[12:33] <wolfgang> i neeed to install this one: or this one... http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=snapshot;h=81a4641318fa5b655738797491c9d90bcbea3027
[12:39] <wolfgang> somebody install the ar9170 driver?
[12:46] <glick> hey, is there anything i can do to make kde snappier?
[12:46] <glick> it seems a little ... slow
[12:47] <glick> like starting apps just arnt snappy
[12:47] <glick> and moving windows around the screen isnt smooth
[12:52] <cerecitas> ooook... now a weird one... my friend just installed kubuntu.. and he cannot see his ntfs partition... we checked his fstab and the partition is not there either but he has got like 8 different partitions.. so i am wondering what might be the problem
[12:52] <cerecitas> maybe just too many partitions??/
[12:53] <ma3x> hello my menu fonts in firefox appear too large (using kde4). is there a fix?
[13:05] <Foudu> hello all
[13:06] <Foudu> Can i ask something ?
[13:06] <slow-motion> hi
[13:07] <noren> hi all
[13:08] <noren> i have a dopod 800 and trying to connect internet to it thru kubuntu help needed, how to procede
[13:08] <Newbee> Foudu: just do it
[13:09] <noren> does kubuntu have any sync application
[13:10] <noren> !sync
[13:10] <Foudu> i have some Mp3's and the media player in kubuntu can't play them...
[13:10] <Foudu> can some one tell me how to make the player play them?
[13:10] <noren> !mp3 | Foudu
[13:11] <Foudu> thank you i will check it out :D
[13:11] <Newbee> noren: rsync or unison may be what you want.
[13:12] <Newbee> noren: but I am not that experienced with them. rsync is monodirectional, unison is bidirectional.
[13:12] <noren> !unison
[13:13] <noren> !info unison
[13:15] <BluesKaj> "morning
[13:15] <eagles0513875> morning BlueEagle
[13:15] <eagles0513875> mt
[13:15] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj:
[13:16] <noren> how to work with this unison
[13:16] <BluesKaj> hi eagles0513875
[13:17] <Newbee> noren: unison tries to keep two sources in sync while rsync only tries to keep one in sync to another. The problem with unison is, that it is no longer maintained.
[13:17] <Newbee> noren: and I had my problems with its syntax
[13:17] <noren> wow i just installed it now i got to removve it then
[13:18] <Newbee> noren: to start I think you should have a look at the man page and mybe at some scenarios close to yours. You may find some in the internet.
[13:19] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to compile amarok1.4 in jaunty (amarok2 doesn't provide my needs) . I type this command in to compile (./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`) . it seems to buils ok then at the finish it tells me this:  "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail.
[13:24] <simona> #
[13:29] <Carnage\> BluesKaj: Looks like the prefix is wrong
[13:31] <Carnage\> Quote: "run configure with: --disable-debug --without-arts --prefix=/path/to/kde, where path to kde could be /opt/kde /usr/kde, /usr/local/kde, etc....distibution dependent. "
[13:33] <Carnage\> BluesKaj: And before that, you should of course have installed "kdelibs"
[13:33] <Carnage\> http://fugitivethought.com/projects/amarokcompile/ <-- Maybe have a look at that URL
[13:33] <rain> anyone updated his kde? to 4.2?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Carnage\ , ok thx for the tip
[13:37] <wathek_> hello all
[13:38] <wathek_> from where could I get Qt 4.4.3 for Jaunty Jackalope ?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Carnage\ . I'm running Konversation BTW so the right kde libs (3.5.1 )must be installed :P
[13:45] <StR|Sangreal> hi; pls if i have removed my windoze from boot options, what shall i do to add it back there?
[13:47] <Downing> Heya
[13:47] <Downing> How do I sort out the graphics driver?
[13:48] <Foudu> hello again
[13:48] <Downing> Hi
[13:49] <Foudu> can i ask something more?
[13:49] <Downing> Don't ask to ask, just ask
[13:49] <Downing> but it won't be me answering for sure
[13:49] <Foudu> How can i add the Flash Player to the Web Broswer?
[13:50] <StR|Sangreal> Foudu, there is no way to install flash on amd64 systems
[13:50] <michaeldadmum> Foudu: go to the web and find the amd64 flash deb and install it.
[13:50] <StR|Sangreal> there is an AMD32 plugin that works with opera
[13:51] <StR|Sangreal> should be copied into ../plugins directory
[13:51] <michaeldadmum> There is a pre-release version of flash plugin.
[13:51] <StR|Sangreal> really? :)
[13:51] <michaeldadmum> yes
[13:52] <michaeldadmum> I'm using it.
[13:52] <StR|Sangreal> i cannot access it from the official source page
[13:52] <StR|Sangreal> could you possibly upload it somewhere else?
[13:52] <StR|Sangreal> :-[
[13:53] <michaeldadmum> Try to search flash amd64 on the web
[13:56] <StR|Sangreal> http://www.sharms.org/blog/2008/11/17/flash-64-bit-on-ubuntu-intrepid/
[13:57] <arcanjoebc> some here speak portuguese???
[13:57] <StR|Sangreal> !por
[13:57] <bazhang> !pt
[13:59] <chonlatee> hi all
[13:59] <StR|Sangreal> !hi | all
[13:59] <chonlatee> i update kde 4.1 to kde 4.2 but it error when i stop kdm
[14:00]  * StR|Sangreal is washing hands, as he updatet he got to reinstall all system
[14:00] <StR|Sangreal> !jaunty
[14:00] <StR|Sangreal> !bye | all
[14:01] <dr_curious__> hello ppl, I wonder if 2 gigs of RAM is OK for KDE 4
[14:01] <dr_curious__> there are rumours that it consumes too much resource
[14:03] <sonic> question about amarok in jaunty: is it true that amarok 1.4 will not be available through jaunty?
[14:03] <dr_curious__> i second to sonics question also :)
[14:03] <demon> how can i apt-get upgrade but sellective :) upgrade
[14:03] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi
[14:04] <CPrgmSwR2> Everything is working great with kubuntu intriped
[14:04] <demon> CPrgmSwR2: lol try to connect a camera to kopete or amsn
[14:04] <demon> :D
[14:04] <demon> and then come here again :)
[14:04] <dr_curious__> I think demand is more than the supply hereabouts .)
[14:04] <CPrgmSwR2> Everything is working great with kubuntu intriped Except that I have this issue where I have to press keys as I start up my computer
[14:05] <demon> CPrgmSwR2: and doesnt remember my sudo pppoeconf
[14:05] <dr_curious__> too many questions, few to answer :)
[14:06] <CPrgmSwR2> demon: 5 years ago it was a struggle to get internet access and able to play songs
[14:06] <demon> lol
[14:06] <CPrgmSwR2> now you can play movies and wifi works with some struggle
[14:06] <demon> i have 6.05
[14:06] <demon> or smt like that
[14:06] <sonic> Amarok 2 does not have ID3 tag editing from the playlist and I still have not sen any suggestion that its being worked on.  I do heavy live concert (ala Grateful Dead, Floyd, etc) concert collecting and tag at least 10 a week. Amarok 2 is not an option for me
[14:07] <CPrgmSwR2> sonic: #amarok
[14:08] <demon> sonic: amarok 2 its still buggy
[14:09] <Mamarok> sonic: ID3 tagging works in Amarok trunk
[14:09] <sonic> I read amarok 1.4 will not be available in jaunty. is that true
[14:09] <Mamarok> so do a lot of other features
[14:09] <CPrgmSwR2> demon: I don't like what they did to amarok 2 that much
[14:09] <CPrgmSwR2> sonic: let me check
[14:09] <sonic> riddell in here?
[14:10] <Mamarok> there is no KDE3 in Jaunty, hence no Amarok 1.4.x
[14:10] <BluesKaj> sonic , it's true
[14:10] <CPrgmSwR2> Mamarok: there is konversation
[14:10] <Mamarok> CPrgmSwR2: not default, the default is Quassel
[14:10] <BluesKaj> yeah, why doe konversation work ?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> does
[14:11] <CPrgmSwR2> is Quassel the replacement to konversation?
[14:11] <Mamarok> well, one can allways try to install it afterwards, but it's not shipped
[14:11] <Mamarok> yes, as there is no KDE4 port of Konversation (yet?)
[14:12] <demon> but konversation works on kde4 i dont understand
[14:12] <CPrgmSwR2> Mamarok: I just tried quassel and it sucks compared to konversation
[14:13] <Mamarok> well, it's different
[14:13]  * Mamarok uses irssi
[14:13] <sonic> well then I can upgrade until Amraok 2 adds that
[14:13] <CPrgmSwR2> yeah I agree
[14:13] <BluesKaj> what is a  --prefix ?
[14:13] <demon> i liek Xchat
[14:13] <sonic> *cant*
[14:13] <CPrgmSwR2> sonic: lol
[14:13] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: when compiling?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:14] <BluesKaj> do I have to sub a path there or ?
[14:14] <Mamarok> it's an option to change the default installation folder for example
[14:14] <sonic> Im not trying to get RSI from right clicking on over 150 mp3s 3 times a week
[14:14] <Mamarok> if you don't give a prefix, it will install in the default folder
[14:15] <Mamarok> sonic: why not use easytag or kid?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> Mamarok , the default folder doesn't contain the proper KDE libs , so it says amarok will fail to compile
[14:16] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: do you want to make a local installation?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> what is the default folder anyway/
[14:17] <Mamarok> default is /usr/something
[14:17] <CPrgmSwR2> Is there a stock widget yet available for kde4?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> I tried usr/bin , like the other apps
[14:17] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: you should ask in #amarok for more help
[14:17] <BluesKaj> I did and I am
[14:18] <jado> hi sometimes i have a problem with my sound it just stops and i have to reboot in order to make it work
[14:19] <jado> currently it does not work
[14:19] <sonic> Mamarok: I am
[14:19] <sonic> they tell me to go back here
[14:20] <mariuz> jado , maybe is an pulse related issue
[14:20] <Mamarok> jado: didn't follow, you are talking about Jaunty?
[14:20] <jado> Jaunty ??
[14:20] <Mamarok> ok, never mind :)
[14:20] <sonic> Mararok: Amraok 1.4 is the best by far.  All the others deal with one mp3 at a time
[14:20] <jado> mariuz:  ??
[14:21] <Mamarok> sonic: just stay with Hardy then, or install yourself, the sources are available
[14:21] <jado> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy
[14:21] <jado> this is my speaker-test
[14:23] <luca> hi does anyone know how to make the new ipod shuffle work under kubuntu?
[14:23] <Mamarok> luca: which firmware?
[14:23] <Mamarok> the 2.x is caged so not possible
[14:23] <luca> uhm, what do you mean? i'm quite a newbie
[14:24] <luca> i am speaking about the new ipod shuffle, the one thich "talks to you" :)
[14:24] <Mamarok> luca: your iPod has a basic software called firmware
[14:24] <luca> okay how do i know which firmware it has on it?
[14:24] <mariuz> so is an pulse audio problem http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-962624.html
[14:24] <Mamarok> and if it is the latest it's likely to be at least 2.x something so no way to uncage it so far
[14:24] <CPrgmSwR2> How would I download eclipse-pdt for kubuntu
[14:24] <luca> does that mean that it will never work?
[14:25] <Mamarok> luca: not for the moment, no, it needs to be reverse engineered first, and that's not going to happen soon
[14:25] <mariuz> jado , try to restart it pulseaudio or restart alsa-utils
[14:25] <Mamarok> luca: that's the problem with proprietary encrypted hardware
[14:26] <Mamarok> don't buy it if you wants it to run on everything
[14:26] <sonic> Mamarok: yeah real simple. Just compile the sources which Jaunty depreciated. Im sure BluesKaj will attest to that
[14:26] <Mamarok> sonic: what are you talking about?
[14:27] <jado> mariuz: how can i do that ?
[14:27] <luca> :) LOL you right, but i didn't know this business about encrypted hardware.  I really thank you for explaining me! I will probably have to search for a friend with a windows computer :)
[14:27] <sonic> will jaunty supply all the KDE3-dev libraries?
[14:27] <Mamarok> or Apple
[14:27] <luca> yea
[14:28] <Mamarok> sonic: not default
[14:28] <mariuz> jado , sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[14:28] <sonic> but in the repository?
[14:28] <mariuz> jado , sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
[14:28] <mariuz> jado , sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio
[14:28] <Mamarok> sonic: also there's no support for KDE3 in Jaunty, the Kubuntu devs simply don't have the manpower to do so
[14:29] <sonic> so is that a resounding no as well?
[14:29] <Mamarok> so if you want KDE3, stay with Hardy or "revert" to it in Intrepid, there are instructions on the forums
[14:29] <sonic> Or goto OpenSuse.
[14:30] <Mamarok> sonic: forget about it in the new versions, they will drrop the support any time soon too
[14:31] <jado> mariuz: i restarted alsa-utils but i still have the same problem
[14:31] <mariuz> jado, i have solved my pulse related problems in skype by removing the thing
[14:32] <jado> by removing what ?
[14:32] <Mamarok> mariuz: good move, first thing I get rid of when I do an installation
[14:32] <sonic> only amarok 1.4. So if jaunty still has the -dev files for kde3 (which I assume they would need - K3B, Konversation)  then I will upgrade. but I need to know first
[14:32] <Mamarok> jado: Pulseaudio
[14:32] <mariuz> jado, you can put it back http://mapopa.blogspot.com/2009/02/pulse-skype-delay-issues-in-jaunty-if-i.html
[14:33] <Mamarok> sonic: search the forums then, they might have an answer, I don't, sry
[14:33] <jado> i don't understand what you are all talking about
[14:33] <jado> i haven't installed anything
[14:33] <mariuz> jado , and i swear on bible that from then on i didn't had any sound issue ...
[14:33] <mariuz> jado , pulseaudio is installed by default
[14:35] <jado> i have no such package
[14:37] <sonic> Mamarok: last question.  Will Jaunty respect a "lock" if I place it on amarok 1.4 and then upgrade?
[14:37] <Mamarok> sonic: it should
[14:45] <mariuz> jado , what ubuntu version do you have
[14:46] <MarcoPau> hello there, just upgraded to jaunty but xorg isn't working (EE no screens found). I'm using driver fglrx, with either vesa or ati I get a frozen black screen and can't even go back to the console
[14:46] <mariuz> jado , sudo lsb_release -a
[14:49] <mariuz> MarcoPau ,  try recovery mode from the grub menu
[14:50] <mariuz> MarcoPau , and remove xorg.conf , do an backup first
[14:50] <mariuz> MarcoPau , and i guess you should remove fglrx drivers
[14:50] <MarcoPau> mariuz: well I can remove xorg.conf even without using recovery mode. you mean to let it regenerate one itself?
[14:54] <Mamarok> MarcoPau: the fglrx is buggy, you will have to use the radeon ones
[14:55] <MarcoPau> Mamarok: I see. aren't the radeon ones "ati"?
[14:56] <TheWanderer> hi @ all
[14:56] <mariuz> from what i remember they are the same
[14:56] <MarcoPau> Mamarok: cause I already tried with "ati" but xorg freezes black
[14:57] <MarcoPau> and so does the whole ubuntu
[14:57] <MarcoPau> I can just shut down from the power button
[14:58] <Mamarok> MarcoPau: the radeon driver is not called ati
[15:03] <MarcoPau> I tried to startx without any xorg.conf file but it froze again, and it didn't create any new xorg.conf
[15:03] <Mamarok> MarcoPau: ati is just a wrapper, you need the radeon driver
[15:03] <Mamarok> and you will have to purge fglrx
[15:04] <MarcoPau> Mamarok: and those driver are not included in the reps? do I have to download them from ati's website?
[15:04] <Mamarok> no, those are in the repos
[15:07] <Mamarok> MarcoPau: there is a workaround in this bug report:
[15:07] <Mamarok> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/345511
[15:07] <Mamarok> the driver you need to install are:
[15:08] <Mamarok> xserver-xorg-video-radeon or -radeonhd, depending on your graphic card
[15:09] <MarcoPau> Mamarok: I think I got them already. if it's the "ati" driver in xorg.conf I already tried that but it freezes. anyway I'm purging fglrx meanwhile
[15:09] <Mamarok> as I said, the -ati is just a wrapper, the driver is called radeon
[15:10] <Mamarok> MarcoPau: what graphic card do you have?
[15:10] <MarcoPau> Mamarok: radeon x800 gto
[15:12] <Mamarok> x800 or x1800?
[15:13] <MarcoPau> Mamarok: x800
[15:14] <Mamarok> so it's probably the radeon
[15:14] <Mamarok> I installed both drivers and it works now
[15:16] <MarcoPau> Mamarok: that xserver-xorg-video-radeon was already installed. just put "radeon" in xorg.conf, let me try to startx
[15:16] <MarcoPau> see ya later if it freezes
[15:16] <Dillizar> MarcoPau: hmm is your pc overclocked
[15:16] <MarcoPau> working! :)
[15:16] <MarcoPau> Dillizar: nope
[15:16] <onur_> hi! I heard KDE 4 consumes too much resources... is this true? is two gigs of RAM ok?
[15:17] <MarcoPau> Mamarok: thanks a lot for your help. am I supposed to keep on using "radeon" or better switch back to fglrx when fixed?
[15:17] <Dillizar> MarcoPau: 8.10??
[15:17] <MarcoPau> Dillizar: nope, jaunty
[15:17] <Dillizar> MarcoPau: then maybe its just the jaunty
[15:17] <MarcoPau> just upgraded, was coping with the first problems actually :)
[15:18] <Mamarok> no, keep the radeon for now, the fglrx is still buggy, tried it but it still freezes X
[15:18] <MarcoPau> I have a mysqld error on boot also. gonna check that now
[15:18] <Dillizar> MarcoPau: i really dont think 9.04 will work till 23.04.2009
[15:18] <MarcoPau> Mamarok: but fglrx is supposed to be more complete right?
[15:19] <MarcoPau> Dillizar: I had tried it live a few weeks ago (still alpha) and was working neatly
[15:19] <Mamarok> MarcoPau: historicaly it was always buggier than the radeon one
[15:19] <Mamarok> I know it is strange, but that's how it is
[15:20] <Dillizar> how can i install new applet for my 3.5.10 kde
[15:21] <Mamarok> Dillizar: what applet do you want?
[15:21] <Dillizar> weather :)
[15:22] <MarcoPau> Mamarok: alright I'll remember that. thanks again for your help
[15:22] <Mamarok> Dillizar: did you check in kde-apps.org?
[15:22] <Mamarok> MarcoPau: you are welcome :)
[15:22] <Dillizar> yeah but i dont know how to install them Mamarok lemme download one
[15:22] <MarcoPau> see ya ciao
[15:22] <Mamarok> Dillizar: you must make sure it is a KDE3 applet though
[15:23] <MarcoPau> Mamarok: wiederzusehen
[15:23] <Mamarok> bye MarcoPau :)
[15:23] <Mamarok> Dillizar: and maybe use superkaramba to install it
[15:24] <Hasnain> I need to know how I can set timer on kubuntu to get it shutdown after couple of hours ?
[15:25] <Dillizar> Mamarok: ok http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Another+Weather+theme?content=101180
[15:25] <Dillizar> its kde-look.org good??
[15:25] <Dillizar> ok now i have download it and now what
[15:27] <Dillizar> Mamarok:
[15:27] <Dillizar> ?
[15:35] <Mamarok> Dillizar: sorry, was afk
[15:35] <Dillizar> its ok karamba its ok
[15:35] <Dillizar> but the google weather report doesnt work
[15:35] <Dillizar> :(
[15:35] <Mamarok> I don't remember that much KDE3, haven't used it in ages, normally the kde3 applets can be used in suprekaramba
[15:35] <Dillizar> but a lot of cool stuff
[15:36] <Mamarok> well, no idea if it ever worked
[15:38] <cerecitas> ooook... now a weird one... my friend just installed kubuntu.. and he cannot see his ntfs partition... we checked his fstab and the partition is not there either but he has got like 8 different partitions.. so i am wondering what might be the problem (i have a copy of that fstab if needed)
[15:38] <cerecitas> (and hello :D)
[15:41] <cerecitas> i am just wondering how is possible that the ntfs partition is not even in the fstab
[15:44] <Mamarok> cerecitas: I named the ntfs partitions so those are mounted by default, if not they should show up in /media
[15:45] <cerecitas> hmmm i may check with him,but he's totally unable to see them... yet i didn't ask him to check media... i will.. Mamarok you're a life saver :D
[15:46] <cerecitas> anyway i was wondering if there is any limit to create partitions... i thinki read something somewhere... time ago
[15:46] <wesley> hi
[15:48] <wesley> My kubuntu 9.04 freezes sometimes, where can I find information in logs what happend ?
[15:49] <webmas> hello
[15:49] <webmas> aww
[15:49] <K1981> i need help with konqueror on 9.04, i try to run flash but it only work on firefox not on konqueror
[15:50] <Mamarok> wesley: well, you are running beta software, hope you know that
[15:51] <wesley> yes I know, but i wanna provide a good bug report
[15:51] <Mamarok> what graphic card and driver are you using? there are issues with the fglrx on ati cards
[15:51] <wesley> I know it has nothing to do with ext4 because the same happend on ext3
[15:51] <wesley> intel everthing expect hd is intel
[15:51] <Mamarok> I'm not talking about partitions :)
[15:52] <jussi01> wesley: please use #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support.
[15:52] <Mamarok> the logs for the X server are in /var/log
[15:52]  * jussi01 waves to Mamarok from helsinki
[15:52] <Mamarok> hi jussi01 :)
[15:53] <BluesKaj> !jaunty | wesley K1981
[15:54] <denis__> !de
[15:54] <wesley> BluesKaj I only asked help because I need to provide a good bug report or this wont be fixed
[15:55] <wesley> Ive founded the logs, gues kernel logs call kern.log ?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> wesley, then the best place to report that is in #ubuntu+1, and perhaps launchpad
[15:55] <Mamarok> no idea, you can use tab for autocomplete in the command line
[15:56] <wesley> BluesKaj I report always on Launchpad, but they never say where to find logs to I wanted to know that
[15:56] <shadeslayer> hi,my apt is not working,its giving me a error : E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:56] <shadeslayer> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[15:56] <KomiaPoika> ih
[15:56] <LjL> shadeslayer: do you have Adept or something like that open?
[15:56] <KomiaPoika> hi
[15:56] <shadeslayer> LjL: no
[15:56] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix
[15:57] <KomiaPoika> i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 using software upgrade and i cant reinstall nvidia drivers anymore
[15:57] <KomiaPoika> nvidia 1.80 didnt work in 8.04 and still dont, while versions 17x that worked on 8.04 wont even install anymore because i have a xen kernel
[15:57] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: same error
[15:57] <KomiaPoika> and im on amd64
[15:57] <KomiaPoika> so i can reinstall 18x but it wont start kdm
[15:58] <KomiaPoika> and my xorg.conf is configured right
[15:58] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, do you have synaptic installed ?
[15:58] <cerecitas> i guess you are writing sudo before using apt?
[15:58] <shadeslayer> KomiaPoika: uh,180 is giving me alot of crashes,deactivated it ;)
[15:58] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yeah
[15:58] <shadeslayer> cerecitas: yes
[15:58] <KomiaPoika> shadeslayer: but then how do i reinstall 17x on 8.10 amd64? i have xen kernel
[15:59] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer , open it and under sdeit choose "fix broken packages" ...sometimes that will work
[15:59] <BluesKaj> edit
[15:59] <shadeslayer> KomiaPoika: never heard of a xen kernel,sorry,but GNOME had a thing called " restricted drivers "
[15:59] <KomiaPoika> i cant even startx
[16:00] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: done,what next?
[16:00] <KomiaPoika> oh i see why
[16:00] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: same error
[16:00] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: oh sorry,had synaptic open,works now
[16:01] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer , click on apply if it's highlighted
[16:01] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: fixed,thanks for the help
[16:01] <BluesKaj> ok np
[16:03] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: whats the standard nvidia driver for intrepid?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> depends on your card , most of the the 7000 series uses the 177 driver
[16:05] <Tm_T> hmmmm
[16:06] <Tm_T> my 6600 GT uses 180 driver
[16:06] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: 8600 GT
[16:06] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: any problems lately,like weird blocks,etc?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, check you card model number into adept and then look in properties to see if it's listed
[16:07] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: nope
[16:07] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: strange my X crashed twice,since i installed them
[16:13] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, your nvidia card is supported under the nvidia -glx-180 driver in adept
[16:15] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: any idea why X would be crashing?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer , have you modified or editing xorg.conf in any way ?
[16:16] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: no,its default
[16:17] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer , what are you doing when it crashes ?
[16:18] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: empathy is running,and transmission too
[16:23] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer , no idea , i don't use either of those apps :(
[16:25] <shadeslayer> ok thanks anyways
[16:28] <earle> Afternoon folks... my Desktop Effects stopped working as of an update about a week ago... does that sound familiar to anyone?
[16:30] <puddle> better
[16:30] <puddle> k0pp dude
[16:30] <puddle> I have a plan
[16:31] <puddle> =]
[16:31] <puddle> k0pp i will configure eth0 through cable tommorrow when i can be bothered to take my pc downstiars hopefully then wireless wlan0 will be easier to configure
[16:37] <BluesKaj> puddle , which router ?
[16:37] <beleal> ебануться, залез...отзовитесь собратья
[16:38] <BluesKaj> !ru | beleal
[16:38] <tony_> I need a person that knows KDE, inside and out
[16:38] <BluesKaj> tony_ , then join #KDE
[16:38] <Dragnslcr> Or start studying the source code
[16:38] <tony_> sorry first time
[16:39] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, sure :)
[16:40] <tony_> what do i type to get to #KDE
[16:41] <BluesKaj> in the server textbox  /join #KDE
[16:43] <tony_> server textbox is that the buffer. I don,t know
[16:45] <BluesKaj> click on  freenode server in the tree
[16:46] <BluesKaj> quassel , right ?
[16:46] <tony_> right
[16:49] <BluesKaj> tony_, did you find it ?
[16:49] <BluesKaj> ok , i see you joined
[16:50] <totix800> how can I get the window ID of a window on my screen?
[17:01] <CPrgmSwR2> Why is the eclipse packages for kubuntu so out dated
[17:01] <hunger> How do I add a printer in kubuntu/jaunty?
[17:03] <peaches> all the ISO download links are broken for 9.04 beta. you notic that?
[17:03] <peaches> kubuntu.org
[17:04] <CPrgmSwR2> I am on 9.04 beta
[17:04] <Mamarok> CPrgmSwR2: ask on launchpad
[17:05] <CPrgmSwR2> How do I do that
[17:05] <Mamarok> hunger: system settings
[17:05] <Riesh> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/9.04/beta/ ... these too peaches ?
[17:06] <peaches> Riesh: probably not. where was the referrer page for that?
[17:06] <Mamarok> CPrgmSwR2: http://answers.launchpad.net
[17:06] <hunger> Mamarok: Not here:-( Do I need to install something special to have printer setup show up?
[17:06] <CPrgmSwR2> Mamarok: I got an answer @ #kubuntu-devel
[17:06] <Riesh> peaches: i just know this server exists ...
[17:06] <Mamarok> hunger: well, you should, or your compy is outdated
[17:07] <Mamarok> copy*
[17:07] <peaches> ok, try to get to an ISO from kubuntu.org download page. they dont want you to have it
[17:08] <Riesh> if you want to get an iso just go to cdimages.ubuntu.com
[17:08] <peaches> i am now
[17:09] <peaches> it's like they're trying to make it hard to use kubuntu man
[17:09] <peaches> got the inferior adept.. got the broken downloads
[17:09] <Mamarok> peaches: it links to that page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Beta/Kubuntu
[17:10] <Mamarok> and I don't see a broken link to my usual mirror
[17:10] <peaches> ok that's good
[17:11] <Mamarok> peaches: no idea where you see broken links, could you be more specific?
[17:11] <peaches> when i got to a page to download i tend to go to the download seection. then the click to download page. not the wiki, then latest updates then whatever
[17:11] <peaches> ok one second
[17:12] <peaches> maybe i just need javascript or something. ive been trying link after link.. let me get some
[17:12] <Mamarok> that's the page where the link on kubuntu.org goes to
[17:12] <Mamarok> the German mirrors work
[17:12] <peaches> here http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[17:14] <Dragnslcr> peaches- did you click the huge link that says 9.04 Beta?
[17:14] <Dragnslcr> And then read the text on that page?
[17:14] <Mamarok> peaches: those downloads work
[17:14] <PovAddict> recently, Flash stopped working on my machine, all browsers
[17:14] <PovAddict> npviewer.bin segfaults
[17:15] <Mamarok> PovAddict: what distro are you using?
[17:15] <PovAddict> Kubuntu 8.04
[17:15] <peaches> Mamarok: every one i've clicked so far routes to an error page.. can you give me one? i'll be trying the germans
[17:15] <PovAddict> (yes, old; but lately i don't have the time to get used to KDE4)
[17:15] <Mamarok> PovAddict: hm, don't have that anymore, can't test
[17:16] <PovAddict> I don't think I updated anything to make it stop working
[17:16] <PovAddict> however, I've been having troubles with power outages... there's a chance a file got corrupted
[17:16] <peaches> Dragnslcr: no i'm clicking the huge Download buttons with the shiny arrows
[17:17] <Dragnslcr> peaches- do you see huge text that says "Latest update: 9.04 Beta ready for testing" at the top of the downloads page?
[17:17] <Mamarok> peaches: are you behind a firewall?
[17:17] <PovAddict> I tried reinstalling flashplugin-nonfere and nspluginwrapper
[17:17] <PovAddict> nonfree*
[17:18] <Mamarok> PovAddict: sry, can't tell you, maybe someone else
[17:18] <peaches> just tried a few random german links.. same thing. they send me here for example http://ftp.stw-bonn.de/ubuntu-cd/&debug=&download-button=&flavor=kubuntu
[17:19] <peaches> Dragnslcr: yes, the 'beta information page' link from there is actually really slow. i've been following the shiney green arrows mind you. that huge text doesn't even look like a link at first glance
[17:19] <Mamarok> peaches: you must be doing something wrong, it works fine here with all links I tried so far
[17:20] <Dragnslcr> peaches- the server might be getting bombarded. It tends to happen the day or two after a release
[17:20] <hunger> Mamarok: Ha, found it. I was missing a packet:-( Thanks for your help.
[17:22] <peaches> Mamarok: ok youre right.. looks like i have a proxy problem
[17:24] <demon> where are the games i have installed with crossover ???
[17:30] <peaches> PovAddict: what did you do in the meantime between working and non working flash?
[17:30] <PovAddict> have a power outage or two :P
[17:30] <PovAddict> I don't remember upgrading any package
[17:30] <PovAddict> I just found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspluginwrapper/+bug/177856
[17:31] <peaches> btw my proxy had been stripping out all the URL crap before the mirror= from download links, which apparently don't work directly
[17:32] <peaches> PovAddict: using the 32 bit wrapper on 64?
[17:32] <PovAddict> yes
[17:35] <peaches> PovAddict: there's a 10 beta or alpha of native 64 bit flash. you may want to try that.. i see that report was from the end of 07 and i'll tell you now, these kind of flash problems haven't gotten much better
[17:35] <PovAddict> thing is, I'm not getting a crash every now and then
[17:35] <PovAddict> it *never* works
[17:35] <PovAddict> every time a page has any Flash, /var/log/syslog shows an npviewer segfault
[17:36] <peaches> my 32 bit flash no longer works, i'm on intrepid and kde svn rather far removed from 8.04
[17:36] <peaches> i dont know what caused mine to stop either
[17:38] <PovAddict> I guess I could try gnash
[17:38] <PovAddict> :p
[17:41] <blackflag> Hello all :) Im trying to mount  a cdrom with mp3 on it but sudo mount -t iso9660  /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0/ is not working, its telling me wrong fstype. Its a cd I burned  with k3b. Can someone help?
[17:42] <PovAddict> maybe k3b converted the mp3 files to a normal audio CD?
[17:42] <blackflag> btw ubuntu 8.10-server
[17:42] <PovAddict> peaches: meh, gnash doesn't show youtube at all :/
[17:43] <peaches> blackflag: click it from the k3b interface (i think it has a mount context menu option too), see what happes
[17:43] <peaches> PovAddict: no surprise
[17:44] <peaches> very few options for flash
[17:44]  * PovAddict hates web apps
[17:44] <blackflag> ohh, it seems it generate ogg- files
[17:44] <peaches> my last option is to load vmware with a winblows install, and that always works
[17:45] <PovAddict> I don't have the diskspace to do that atm
[17:45] <PovAddict> and not really a solution for Mom
[17:47] <peaches> i think it could be one of the best solutions for Mom cause she gets all the easy use crap and can naively put all the viruses in the world on it with little downside
[17:47] <TheGentleman> Hello. I'm not able to install Kubuntu 8.04 on a computer using the CD. It always hangs up while copying files. No other possibility than to switch off brutally. Of corse the CD has been double checked and md5sum verified again and again.  Any Idea ?
[17:47] <peaches> blackflag: so it mounts now then eh?
[17:48] <peaches> TheGentleman: try checking the disk for bad blocks?
[17:48] <peaches> the hard disk
[17:49] <blackflag> yes, it seems
[17:49] <blackflag> but what next?
[17:49] <cerecitas> TheGentleman: are you trying to install 32 or 64 bits? it happened to me once when i tried with th 64 bits one... then just changed to 32 and all fine
[17:49] <zlobi> Hello
[17:49] <zlobi> Do you read me?
[17:49] <blackflag> hmm ls /mediacdrom shows me nothing
[17:50] <TheGentleman> I tried with 2 different partitions peaches: it seems unlikely thet both have bad blocks at about 50-60 % of completion of files copy
[17:50] <PovAddict> no zlobi
[17:50] <peaches> blackflag: now it's mounted.. doesn't it mount point in /media/ somewhere? also try mounting it manually without the -t iso* to see if it will autodetect..
[17:50] <zlobi> Oh, fine
[17:50] <zlobi> Please let me know when your new glasses arrive
[17:50] <TheGentleman> cerecitas: it is a 32 bit desktop version
[17:51] <zlobi> ok, I am about to ask for some support too...
[17:51] <zlobi> Should I start or wait my turn? :P
[17:51] <TheGentleman> start
[17:51] <zlobi> 10x
[17:51] <peaches> TheGentleman: yeah probably, but could give it a shot anyway.. otherwise maybe a problem with the IDE/SCSI controller or something.. there may be a boot option to pass to the kernel to try to use different drivers.. doesn't the cd have a safe mode install? try that if so.. or 8.10 ..dunno
[17:51] <zlobi> So, I upgraded to 9.04 beta
[17:52] <zlobi> So long all fine, except that my wi-fi does not work
[17:52] <cerecitas> uuuuuuuu zlobi wrong channel
[17:52] <zlobi> It is an Acer 5920G lappy
[17:52] <cerecitas> #ubuntu+1 for jaunty :)
[17:52] <TheGentleman> peaches: I'm deeply sorry!  I wrote 8.04 but i meant 8.10!!!!!!
[17:52] <zlobi> ok, going
[17:52] <zlobi> 10x
[17:52] <blackflag> sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom
[17:52] <blackflag> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[17:52] <blackflag> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[17:53] <PovAddict> blackflag: CD or DVD?
[17:53] <blackflag> cd
[17:53] <blackflag> CD
[17:53] <PovAddict> ok
[17:54] <PovAddict> (DVDs are usually UDF instead of ISO 9660)
[17:54] <peaches> blackflag: see what kind of info k3b tells you about it then.. been a while since i used k3b..
[17:54] <peaches> see if it thinks it's ISO9660 or joliet i think it is
[17:56] <blackflag> TSSTcorp CDRWDVD TS-H493B (/dev/scd0)
[17:56]  * TheGentleman thinks he will stay with 8.04: it works fine.  I tried to test 9.04 beta and it runs but it can't manage a pretty normal network card.   8.10 refuses to install.....   novelties are too crappy!
[17:58] <peaches> TheGentleman: the badblocks command just in case you want to try it..you can also enter boot options with F6 or something upon boot
[17:58] <peaches> blackflag: that's all it says? nothing in the top view area
[17:58] <TheGentleman> i will try those too...  thanks peaches
[18:00] <TheGentleman> peaches: how can i test for badblocks if I have no system installed?  using 8.10 as a live disk perhaps?
[18:00] <blackflag> Yes nd some medium info: audioCD , CD-R
[18:00] <peaches> TheGentleman: yeah live boot it then badblocks on the partitions
[18:00] <TheGentleman> ok, thanks
[18:01] <PovAddict> blackflag: so it's an audio CD, not a data CD (so it has no filesystem)
[18:01] <peaches> blackflag: so where do the ogg files come in?
[18:02] <PovAddict> peaches: the audioCD kioslave shows mp3, ogg, and wav for every song in the audio CD, and does the actual encoding when you copy the files to your hard disk :)
[18:02] <PovAddict> even with song names in filenames, via CDDB
[18:03] <peaches> PovAddict: ok i i think that's because the ioslave lets you rip cd's into whatever format you want by drag-n-dropping them into your disk folders
[18:03] <PovAddict> peaches: yep
[18:03] <peaches> so it's an audiocd
[18:03] <PovAddict> but it looks as if the ogg/mp3 files were already there, even though it does the ripping only if you copy them
[18:04] <peaches> audiocd ioslave is pretty nice
[18:04] <peaches> too bad i havent used an audiocd in years
[18:04] <PovAddict> heh
[18:04] <blackflag> yes, but how to mount it?
[18:05] <PovAddict> blackflag: you don't
[18:05] <PovAddict> audio CDs aren't "mounted", because they don't have a filesystem
[18:05] <peaches> blackflag: it doesn't need to be mounted. play it with a media player
[18:05] <blackflag> ahh
[18:06] <blackflag> but when I want to see what files, which format are on cd?
[18:06] <peaches> maybe the kioslave should put a README.txt in the virtual filesystem to explain all that hah
[18:06] <subcool> Hey guys- lil help. I have out of the loop for a whle again. I am trying to apt-get Firefox, gedit.. and some other stuff
[18:07] <subcool> When i goto Apt- I have searched for Firefox and Gedit... nothing. What did i forget?
[18:08] <cerecitas> hmm apt-cache search firefox throws no results?
[18:10] <peaches> blackflag: they're not files on the cd.. the format is Red Book spec according to google
[18:11] <blackflag> okay ! thanks!!!
[18:20] <PovAddict> blackflag: audio CDs don't have files
[18:23] <nightdrever> ok, ive installed skype, but my logitech quick cam is just a fuzzy green screen on it......the cam works on ekiga so the cam does actually work....does anyone know why not on skype?
[18:26] <subcool> cercecitas - whats that?
[18:26] <subcool> nightdrever
[18:26] <nightdrever> ok if no one knows.......does anyone know any software that works on ubuntu for vidio chat.....which would also work on XP? its just people i speak to have XP
[18:27] <subcool> if its green- u have an encode/decode issue
[18:27] <nightdrever> do u know how to fix?
[18:27] <subcool> idk- the correct driver
[18:27] <cerecitas> hmm subcool if you open a terminal and write apt-get cache firefox
[18:27] <nightdrever> well it works on ekiga
[18:27] <nightdrever> but not on skype
[18:27] <cerecitas> it will throw a lot of results... then just select the package you want to install and sudo apt-get install nameofthepackage
[18:28] <subcool> nightdrever - i had a similiar issue with a logitech- it wasnt supported.. so i downgraded the drivers and it worked.
[18:28] <nightdrever> how do i down grade the drivers?
[18:28] <subcool> k- ya, thats the old school way... y isnt the Gui working? thanks for the info- im behind
[18:28] <subcool> nightdrever- have to look to see what sister drivers work on the webcam...
[18:28] <subcool> its like i have the Webcam pro- STX or something....
[18:28] <cerecitas> should be there also, but i normally use the terminal.. if you write firefox in adept i am pretty sure the package is there as well
[18:29] <nightdrever> i dont know how to
[18:29] <subcool> not supported.. but hte REALLY cheap version is
[18:29] <nightdrever> i have quickcam v11.1
[18:29] <subcool> cercecitas- i have searched for firefox.. nothing comes up- i thouth my sources need to be updated.. but it seems im so out of the curve.. we dont have to do that anymore.
[18:29] <subcool> Nightdrever - i dont really know what that is.. im just getting kubuntu setup myself..
[18:30] <nightdrever> ok thanks
[18:30] <cerecitas> nightdrever: i am not sure but if it works fine in ekiga is not likely to be a drivers problem.. but a skype setup one
[18:30] <subcool> i've just gone trhough it before- just trying the lil help i can..
[18:30] <appu> frnds, suggest me an audio editor for linuc
[18:30] <subcool> cerecitas- ya.. something. But green is a decode error
[18:30] <appu> kubuntu audio editor needed , plz help
[18:31] <subcool> or re-incode
[18:31] <subcool>  lol
[18:31] <cerecitas> so in ekiga is also green? i misunderstood sorry
[18:31] <nightdrever> no works fine on ekiga
[18:31] <nightdrever> just skype it a fuzzy green pic
[18:32] <nightdrever> the sound works fine froom the cam....but not the display
[18:32] <cerecitas> hmmm i am having thousands of problems to setup skype...do you have any application only for webcam? so you can try the drivers i think
[18:34] <nightdrever> ok i may aswell just use windows when want to chat (video//0 with peopple
[18:34] <nightdrever> skype video doesnt work
[18:35] <nightdrever> and dont know anysoftware that people could download on there xp and me use on ubuntu to video chat
[18:35] <cerecitas> not sure nightdrever but as i said... if it works fine in ekiga i would not think it's the driver but some setting in skpe
[18:36] <nightdrever> well in skype for windows it works fine
[18:36] <nightdrever> just not on ubuntu
[18:36] <subcool> :~$ apt-get cache firefox
[18:36] <subcool> E: Invalid operation cache
[18:36] <cerecitas> yeah but skype for windows is not skype for linux :p and the settings are not the same
[18:36] <subcool> :~$ apt-get cache firefox
[18:36] <subcool> E: Invalid operation cache
[18:36] <cerecitas> subcool: apt-cache search firefox
[18:36] <cerecitas> ;)
[18:36] <nightdrever> yeah well i dont know how to change the setting for it to  work
[18:37] <cerecitas> skype has a forum as far as i know, maybe you can find some information there
[18:47] <c0re> i'm testing '9.04 now.. the kde-version is much better..
[18:47] <c0re> but not perfect :/
[18:55] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[18:55] <EvaLuaTe> is there any command i can run to show the 'Shut Down' screen? (as if i would click the shut down button...)
[19:05] <osevoll> hi, im seeking help with upgrading kde 4.1 to 4.2. it failed. can anyone here help me?
[19:06] <cerecitas> hmmm did you add already the backports and so on?
[19:06] <osevoll> backports?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> osevoll, read this tutorial : http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[19:07] <cerecitas> repositories..
[19:07] <cerecitas> oh BluesKaj how do you have all those links so handy always??
[19:08] <ubunturos> I guess, because he's an all-around-guy :)
[19:08] <BluesKaj> look at the channel msg , prolly at the top of your chat page ,depending on the your irc client
[19:08] <ubunturos> or as one would say in cricket, all-rounder :)
[19:08] <BluesKaj> :)
[19:08] <osevoll> i've read that tutorial, i added: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main and also the public key
[19:08] <ubunturos> jono: bacon?
[19:08] <cerecitas> right my bad ;p
[19:09] <BluesKaj> ubunturos, never played cricket in my life
[19:09] <BluesKaj> :)
[19:09] <ubunturos> BluesKaj: oh, ok. That was just a metaphor ;)
[19:10] <BluesKaj> osevoll, did you apt-get update after editing your sources.list ...i have to ask
[19:11] <osevoll> yes
[19:11] <cerecitas> now i have also a question about upgrading... i have all the proper repos enabled and i have done apt-get update and upgrade... yet kde 4.2.1 does not install... any idea why??
[19:11] <osevoll> we're "done" upgrading, but we can't log in via x
[19:12] <Mamarok> cerecitas: did you try to change your mirror server?
[19:12] <osevoll> error given: .xsession file missing, no session manager, no window managers and no terminal emulators
[19:12] <fanovard> update kubuntu french
[19:12] <cerecitas> hmm no Mamarok true that you suggested it yesterday and i forgot... let me try
[19:12] <Adapter> !seen catweazle
[19:14] <BluesKaj> osevoll, in the terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:15] <cerecitas> nothing Mamarok
[19:15] <cerecitas> it is not going thru
[19:15] <Mamarok> cerecitas: and you added the gpg key?
[19:15] <cerecitas> hmmm it is there
[19:15] <cerecitas> been checking today
[19:15] <osevoll> done, and i got: the following packages have been kept back: kdegraphics-strigi-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdepimlibs5 system-config-printer-kde
[19:16] <osevoll> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded
[19:17] <cerecitas> anyway and now that i read kubuntu website, they only speak about how to install 4.2 ... no 4.2.1
[19:17] <cerecitas> i am starting to be really messed up with this
[19:18] <cerecitas> maybe 4.2.1 is not available in the repos yet?
[19:19] <paolo_> hi. kdiff3 package is broken on kubuntu 8.10 (already checked). Is there an alternative of this program ?
[19:21] <cjae> friend bought box preinstalled with kubuntu 8.10 installed, eth0 is realtek 8168 B controller, and lsmod shows the module listed, but network manager doesnt get an IP?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> cerecitas, osevoll, http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.1.php
[19:23] <Neremor> hello!
[19:23] <Neremor> I'm currently running from a Kubuntu 7.10 live cd with kde 3.5
[19:23] <ubunturos> !hello | Neremor
[19:23] <noren> !hi | Neremor
[19:23] <cjae> on my box I have a intel 10/100 controller and if I do dmesg | grep eth0 it shows the module then the info his doesn't
[19:23] <Neremor> i would like to install the newest kde again but i don't have an empty cd anymore ;) is there a way to install the newest kubuntu via this live cd or an usb-stick?
[19:24] <Neremor> just "dumping" the cd-image to an usb-stick didn't work for me like it did for other os i tried to install via usb, so i think usb-installation is impossible, isn't it?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> !USB
[19:24] <cerecitas> thanks BluesKaj
[19:25] <EvaLuaTe> is there any command i can run to show the 'Shut Down' screen? (as if i would click the shut down button...)
[19:25] <BluesKaj> cerecitas, np
[19:25] <cjae> !realtek
[19:26] <cjae> !8168
[19:28] <subcool> :~$ apt-get cache firefox
[19:28] <subcool> E: Invalid operation cache
[19:29] <subcool> lil help
[19:29] <noren> subcool: wat are u tring to do
[19:29] <subcool> install firefox
[19:29] <subcool> gedit
[19:29] <subcool> etc-
[19:29] <noren> to install ::: sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:29] <jtisme> EvaLuaTe, what are u trying to accomplish?
[19:30] <subcool> Reading package lists... Done
[19:30] <subcool> Building dependency tree
[19:30] <subcool> Reading state information... Done
[19:30] <subcool> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:30] <subcool> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[19:30] <subcool> is only available from another source
[19:30] <subcool> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[19:30] <subcool> subcool@subcool-laptop:~$
[19:30] <White_Pelican> I tried jaunty beta 1 and noticed the "folder" on the desktop isn't there. Is that a widget I need to add?
[19:31] <noren> !pastebin | subcool
[19:31] <BluesKaj> subcool . sudo apt-cache search firefox
[19:31] <subcool> Reading package lists... Done
[19:31] <subcool> Building dependency tree
[19:31] <subcool> Reading state information... Done
[19:31] <subcool> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:31] <EvaLuaTe> jtisme: i'm trying to add a shutdown button to an Application Launcher that's set to show only programs ...
[19:31] <subcool> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[19:31] <subcool> is only available from another source
[19:31] <subcool> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[19:31] <subcool> subcool@subcool-laptop:~$
[19:31] <subcool> ugh- sorry
[19:31] <subcool> E: Invalid operation search
[19:32] <noren> subcool: sudo apt-get update
[19:32] <subcool> its running- its this any different than the Gui Update sources ?
[19:33] <noren> no its same. what are u using adept or synaptic
[19:33] <EvaLuaTe> jtisme: so, any idea?
[19:33] <subcool> i was trying to use adept- but after what u just did.. its working now
[19:34] <noren> wat i did
[19:34] <subcool> what i explain for me to do- the update
[19:34] <subcool> u*
[19:34] <noren> oh ok!!
[19:34] <subcool> ya- thanks. im kinda mad- but w.e. i have to get back into the norm of LInux..
[19:35] <subcool> im just kinda use to Rpm's and Ubuntu working without chasing down stuff-
[19:35] <subcool> anyone familiar with Dual boot of OSx86
[19:36] <noren> what do u want t o know subcool
[19:37] <subcool> I am having issue with getting OSx86 to boot- so i Dual booted with Kubuntu.. My boot loaded is grub- which should take care of that stupid darwin... i was just curious if anyone knew the information i had to add to grub-
[19:37] <subcool> I tried to use the Gui- but it wants to know about kernals and stuff- stuff i dont know about for OSx---
[19:38] <subcool> I tried to use the Gui- but it wants to know about kernals and stuff- stuff i dont know about for OSx---
[19:38] <noren> !grub | subcool
[19:39] <subcool> k
[19:39] <noren> try running update grub
[19:40] <driss> salut tt le monde
[19:40] <subcool> insteresting app- ok.. thanks noren.. ill take a look
[19:41] <noren> driss: english only
[19:41] <driss> ok thanks
[19:41] <driss> hi everyone
[19:41] <Guest76724> hello
[19:42] <noren> !hi | driss
[19:42] <driss> hi noren
[19:42] <Guest76724> hi all
[19:43] <noren> hi Guest76724
[19:43] <Guest76724> how are you ?
[19:43] <noren> Guest76724: do u need some help with kubuntu
[19:43] <Guest76724> i'm sorry, french reseident
[19:43] <driss> fine thanks
[19:44] <driss> yes please
[19:44] <noren> !fr | Guest76724
[19:44] <driss> i have a little problem with my internet connection
[19:45] <noren> what is the prob
[19:45] <driss> the connection is done but i cant navigate
[19:46] <Gon> dns?
[19:46] <driss> i configured it
[19:46] <noren> can you ping www.google,com
[19:46] <driss> i'll try it now
[19:47] <Xeron> hi guys
[19:47] <noren> or try this ping 208.67.219.231
[19:47] <driss> yes i can ping www.google.com
[19:48] <driss> the ping is ok
[19:48] <jean__> join #Teresina
[19:48] <noren> what browser are u using, i hope not opera
[19:48] <driss> clear
[19:48] <Xeron> i was wondering i partiond my disks so that linux is on a 10g partition and i have a ext 3 fileing system mounted on /Storage and well i was wondering how i make my storage mount not a root ownership
[19:48] <driss> sorry
[19:48] <Xeron> but acesssable to read and write on like a normal disk
[19:48] <driss> i'am using Konqueror
[19:49] <Xeron> could someone help me please i dont want my /storage mount to be protected i want it acessable how do i do that?
[19:49] <dwidmann> Xeron: sudo chown $USER:$USER /Storage
[19:49] <libervisco> hm sound doesn't work in amarok..
[19:49] <libervisco> kubuntu jaunty
[19:49] <Xeron> what does that do dwidmann
[19:50] <Xeron> do i type my name in the second user spot?
[19:50] <Xeron> or the first
[19:50] <noren> driss: try installing arora and tell me if it works, are u using any proxy to connect to network
[19:50] <dwidmann> Xeron: wait, you'll want -R on that command also
[19:50] <noren> libervisco: i use jaunty my amarok works fine
[19:50] <Xeron> ok so tell me exactly how i should type it plz
[19:50] <Xeron> like were do i put my name in
[19:50] <Xeron> to make it xerons
[19:50] <Xeron> rather than rots
[19:51] <Xeron> roots
[19:51] <dwidmann> Xeron: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /Storage
[19:51] <Xeron> ok ill try that..
[19:51] <Xeron> Xeron: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /Storage
[19:51] <driss> noren:no i dont use any proxy and how can i install arora
[19:51] <ubuntu_> hello!
[19:51] <ubuntu_> i've a short question
[19:51] <noren> sudo apt-get install arora
[19:51] <dudu2256> repositorio clamav alguem conhece?
[19:51] <ubuntu_> which filesystem is the best one for booting from usb stick?
[19:52] <cerecitas> !pt
[19:52] <libervisco> ah I didn't install extra multimedia packages noren.. doing it now :)
[19:52] <dudu2256> i am sorry!!
[19:52] <Xeron> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:52] <Xeron>   File "/usr/lib/command-not-found", line 8, in <module>
[19:52] <Xeron>     import CommandNotFound
[19:52] <Xeron> ImportError: No module named CommandNotFound
[19:52] <dwidmann> ubuntu_: ext3 should work fine, but I would use noatime instead of relatime
[19:53] <Xeron> thats what happend dwidmann
[19:53] <ubuntu_> noatime?
[19:53] <Xeron> dwidman i installed my ext drive in realtime aswell
[19:53] <dwidmann> Xeron: did you typo something?
[19:53] <Xeron> yeah i typed exactly what u wanted me to
[19:53] <Xeron> the user user thing
[19:54] <Xeron> and should i change my /storage disk to noatime?
[19:54] <Xeron> rather than realtime
[19:54] <dwidmann> Xeron: it was all one command, just copy + paste
[19:54] <Xeron> sence im not using it for my operateing system
[19:54] <Xeron> i did copppy paste it dwid
[19:54] <Xeron> and it got that eror
[19:54] <Xeron> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:54] <Xeron>   File "/usr/lib/command-not-found", line 8, in <module>
[19:54] <Xeron>     import CommandNotFound
[19:54] <Xeron> ImportError: No module named CommandNotFound
[19:55] <dwidmann> I've been recommended to use noatime instead of relatime for flash stuffs
[19:55] <cerecitas> did you actually wrote $USER:$USER or xeron:xeron?/
[19:55] <Xeron> i wrote user uers lol
[19:55] <driss> noren : i used apt-get install arora but it dosen't work
[19:55] <cerecitas> or whichever is your computer's username :D
[19:55] <dwidmann> cerecitas: that should work fine, it's an environment variable
[19:55] <Xeron> so i type in Computername then xeron?
[19:55] <Xeron> for the user user?
[19:55] <cerecitas> is the only thing i can think about ...
[19:56] <cerecitas> i normally chown with my user's name no use of variables
[19:56] <noren> driss: sudo apt-get install arora
[19:56] <Xeron> cerecitas
[19:56] <Xeron> what should i type
[19:56] <driss> noren : ok
[19:56] <Xeron> chown -R computername then Username?
[19:56] <cerecitas> Xeron:  dwidmann probably knows better.. but my way of doing it is sudo chown -R kitsune:kitsune /path
[19:56] <Xeron> the user i want to change owner to
[19:57] <Xeron> why kitsune kitsune?
[19:57] <Xeron> why u type your name twice
[19:57] <cerecitas> that's my user
[19:57] <Xeron> why twice tho couldent you just sudo chown -r kitsune /path
[19:57] <cerecitas> sec i will find something
[19:58] <slow-motion> bye
[19:59] <driss> noren : i did it but i have this  Impossible de trouver le paquet arora (cant find the package arora)
[19:59] <cerecitas> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chown first is the user, second is the group, you can also not add the group... -R makes it recursive (as happening all the time)
[19:59] <Xeron> and just so im learning whats the -R for
[20:00] <cerecitas> if you don't add -R it will only happen once, but you want it to be permanent, that's why you make it recursive
[20:00] <noren> driss: tell me what do u get wen u ping 208.67.219.231
[20:00] <Xeron> aww so -R = Recursive ok cool :)
[20:00] <cerecitas> anyway i think the problem is the path of /Storage...
[20:00] <driss> noren : ok
[20:01] <Xeron> so i type sudo chown -R $xeron:$xeron /storage
[20:01] <Xeron> and no trust me thats the path
[20:01] <cerecitas> hmmmm is that the path?
[20:01] <Xeron> i mounted that storage disk in partition manager
[20:01] <cerecitas> not /media/Storage?
[20:01] <Xeron> nope its /storage trust me
[20:01] <Xeron> so is that how i should type it uptop?
[20:02] <noren> also tell me what do u get wen u try to open www.google.com with konqueror
[20:02] <cerecitas> Xeron:  sudo chown -R xeron:xeron /Storage
[20:02] <driss> noren : i get this :64 bytes from 208.67.219.231: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=745 ms
[20:02] <cerecitas> but i still think that's not the path to chown :d
[20:02] <Xeron> shouldnet it be $root:$xeron? cuz root currrently owns it
[20:02] <cerecitas> no no Xeron
[20:02] <Xeron> k
[20:02] <Xeron> i dont need the $?
[20:02] <BleSS> hi! which version should I install? does 8.10? --ig bugs has been fixed, or 9.04?
[20:03] <cerecitas> nope, these are not variables
[20:03] <Xeron> oh
[20:03] <Xeron> dwid said $user
[20:03] <Xeron> so i asumed $ was nesary
[20:03] <cerecitas> in $user yes in xeron nope
[20:03] <devilsadvocate> cerecitas, Xeron Recursive != permanent. Recursive means all the subfolders and files under the directory are affected as well. there is no 'temporary
[20:03] <devilsadvocate> ' change in perms
[20:03] <Xeron> $user = super user?
[20:03] <cerecitas> thanks devilsadvocate my mistake then
[20:04] <cerecitas> hmmm no Xeron... super user you get it with sudo
[20:04] <noren> BleSS: try 8.10
[20:04] <Xeron> aww ok thanks alot guys
[20:04] <Xeron> verry helpfull and thanks for helping me understand the concept
[20:04] <devilsadvocate> $user is a generic place holder. it wont actually work normally unless you are setting it up with some script
[20:04] <Xeron> behind the matter helpful if im ever gona learn and be able to help others
[20:04] <noren> driss:  also tell me what do u get wen u try to open www.google.com with konqueror
[20:05] <BleSS> noren: but has been solved the bugs? I¡d to change to ubuntu by errors on kde 4
[20:05] <cerecitas> still i think you should take a look at that path... i had the same and the path to chown was in /media
[20:05] <tamjit> hello all
[20:05] <cerecitas> regardless of what i set on fstab
[20:05] <tamjit> What is this room??
[20:05] <Xeron> sure ill doubble check i mounted it as /storage tho
[20:05] <Mamarok> tamjit: support channel for Kubuntu
[20:06] <driss> noren : ok
[20:06] <tamjit> oh, thanx
[20:06] <noren> BleSS: i m using jaunty alpha and its running fine for a the moment
[20:06] <tamjit> Can anyone help me regarding Dual boot on my system?
[20:06] <noren> !grub | tamjit
[20:07] <BleSS> noren: well, then I'll install jaunty beta, I hope to be luking
[20:07] <Xeron> aparently the command worked
[20:07] <Xeron> as i did not get a error
[20:07] <noren> sure BleSS
[20:07] <Xeron> but it says /storage is still owned by root
[20:07] <driss> noren ; can't find the url http://www.google.com
[20:07] <tamjit> Ubouttu: actually its reverse, i lost my vista after i installed Ubuntu.
[20:08] <Xeron> oh nevermind
[20:08] <Xeron> i just had to refresh my dolphin
[20:08] <Xeron> thx guys
[20:08] <Xeron> ;)
[20:10] <noren> driss: check the konqueror .>> setting >> configure Konqueror>>proxy >> see if it is there conect to internet directly
[20:10] <driss> noren : i will try to install firefox
[20:10] <driss> noren : ok
[20:11] <noren> driss: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:11] <tamjit> Can anyone help me regarding my lost Vista after i installed ubuntu??
[20:12] <driss> noren : ok i'll try it
[20:12] <noren> tamjit: u have to add an entry to grub and menuelist
[20:13] <noren> i hope it sud work
[20:13] <tamjit> Noren: the entry is already there, but vista doesn't load.
[20:14] <tamjit> noren: I actually shrink my vista OS partiotion using gPart.
[20:14] <tamjit> after that my vista never worked.
[20:16] <noren> tamjit: ask in #ubuntu they might help, :)
[20:17] <noren> driss: did u get the firefox
[20:17] <driss> noren : it doesn't work but i'am trying to install firfox using synaptic
[20:17] <driss> noren : he is installing now thnaks
[20:17] <noren> ok
[20:17] <tamjit> noren: thanks noren
[20:21] <osevoll> any other way of fixing dependencies than with the -f option?
[20:23] <BluesKaj> tamjit , is the entry in your /boot/grub/menu.lst should look like this , http://pastebin.ca/1376038
[20:25] <BluesKaj> osevoll, try to use aptitude to reinstall some pkges that have dependency probs
[20:27] <BluesKaj> osevoll, also make  sure you have all your sources enabled , such as third party in adept
[20:29] <driss> noren : thnanks for ur help it works with firfox
[20:29] <noren> driss: ah its ok i was trying to figure out why konqueror not qorking
[20:30] <driss> noren : ok good luck
[20:36] <osevoll> it seems kde-window-manger is not installed, but it cant be either due to dependencies. reinstalling did not work
[20:37] <sonic> no flashplayer in Jaunty? it doesnt load in firefox or konqueror
[20:41] <noren> sonic get the latest flash from adobe
[20:41] <sonic> well I reinstalled it and it seems to be ok.  is the Adobe version more up to date?
[20:41] <noren> yes
[20:42] <noren> osevoll: whts the prob
[20:43] <osevoll> i tried to update kde 4.1 to 4.2. but after it was done (with no errors given) i cant log in graphical anymore. it says .xsession file is missing
[20:45] <osevoll> btw is there a problem with nvidia and updating to kde4.2?
[20:50] <|PaperTiger|> Is there a way to get Banshee to recognize and use the Logitech G15 media controls?
[21:00] <libervisco> fglrx on kubuntu has issues (X freezes)
[21:03] <libervisco_> and it just froze
[21:06] <Spathi> greetings
[21:06] <Spathi> My KDE 4.2 crashes when I'm right-clicking on any element in folder view plasmoid. Any Idea how to fix this?
[21:06] <Spathi> kubuntu 8.10
[21:23] <puddle> ok sorry about earlier guys
[21:23] <puddle> Im now connected through linux :)
[21:23] <puddle> Im one of you now!
[21:24] <puddle> lol k0pp you there?
[21:24] <k0pp> yes
[21:24] <puddle> k0pp: may i pm you?
[21:24] <puddle> Wanted to say
[21:24] <k0pp> dont ever ask me that question
[21:24] <k0pp> just do it
[21:24] <puddle> ok sorry
[21:24] <k0pp> dont ever apologize either
[21:24] <k0pp> ;p
[21:27] <s4crifice> hi everyone... i have big problem with adept, is there anybody who can help me?
[21:28] <BluesKaj> s4crifice, what's the problem ?
[21:28] <s4crifice> The application Adept (adept) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT).
[21:29] <s4crifice> every time i try to open adept the error is showed... (sry for my english :-))
[21:34] <|PaperTiger|> Can someone here help me correctly install my graphics driver?
[21:35] <|PaperTiger|> ATi
[21:42] <|PaperTiger|> What is the shortcut for run command?
[21:42] <BluesKaj> allt+f2
[21:44] <|PaperTiger|> Okay, and the command for Compiz is CCSM still?
[21:44] <|PaperTiger|> Changing from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, so ironing out bugs
[21:46] <jussi01> |PaperTiger|: you do realise kwin does desktop effects now?
[21:46] <|PaperTiger|> jussi01, I didn't
[21:46] <jussi01> |PaperTiger|: :) even cube
[21:47] <|PaperTiger|> jussi01, nice
[21:48] <jussi01> |PaperTiger|: system settings - Desktop: for config
[21:48] <ruben_> hola amigos
[21:48] <ringer> hi all, when i activated my screensaver, my computer crashed and now will not boot at all
[21:49] <ringer> i can still boot into my XP partition, but not my linux part
[21:49] <Guest64492> i want sex underwater with you girl
[21:49] <jussi01> ringer: tell us a little more...
[21:49] <ringer> jussi01, thats really all there is to it.  i just cannot boot into linux.  i get to the main splash where it shows everything loading, and then just freezes and i have to hold the power button to restart
[21:50] <ringer> jussi01, actually, at the beginning it tells me it could not load descriptive tables or something
[21:50] <jussi01> ringer: ahh, now you telling us something :)
[21:50] <ringer> lol jussi01
[21:50] <gkffcks> Is there a kde mount command? or something that can be used by a script to mount something via kde?
[21:51] <gkffcks> Ie like using the device notifier, only from command line
[21:51] <jussi01> gkffcks: man mount
[21:51] <jussi01> ;)
[21:51] <gkffcks> no....
[21:51] <gkffcks> I know about mount...
[21:51] <jussi01> gkffcks: so what are you really trying to acheive then?
[21:52] <jussi01> ringer: Im not sure how to fix your issue right atm, sorry
[21:52] <gkffcks> a mount by volume name vs uuid or dev
[21:52] <ringer> jussi01 okay thaks anyways
[21:53] <gkffcks> for example when I click on the device notifier kde shows me a device, then it dynamically creates a mount point, and mounts the device, I would like to invoke that action form a script, not just using mount......
[21:54] <jussi01> gkffcks: ahh ok. got you now. I would suggest the easiest thing to do would be to have a look at the source of the devicenotifier plasmoid.
[21:55] <gkffcks> ok...
[22:00] <docx> hi
[22:01] <docx> could anybody help me with compile of "ozone" kwin decoration?
[22:01] <docx> I would like to make a litle tune but i cannot get cmake working :)
[22:02] <docx> I have downloaded source, only ozone folder,  by svn, ran cmake but there is some errors :(
[22:05] <tsimpson> docx: ask in #kde or #kde-devel
[22:21] <Wazmyn> Using Kontact-calendar I've figured out that catagories control the background of events and resource color controls the border color - is there a way to swap these?
[22:25] <demon__> fuck i just deleted .xine
[22:25] <demon__> what should i do
[22:26] <BluesKaj> !language | demon__,
[22:26] <demon__> :)
[22:26] <demon__> sorry
[22:26] <BluesKaj> reinstall xine
[22:28] <Neremor> hello!
[22:28] <Neremor> i've a question...
[22:28] <Neremor> i installed kubuntu via the live cd a hour ago.
[22:28] <Neremor> now i upgraded everything using "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade"...
[22:29] <Neremor> but I'm still using kde 4.1 for any reason...
[22:29] <Neremor> any ideas why?
[22:30] <BluesKaj> Neremor, http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[22:31] <Neremor> ah well
[22:31] <Neremor> that means i have to set up the backports, right?
[22:31] <Dragnslcr> You just have to enable it through Adept
[22:32] <Neremor> yes
[22:32] <Neremor> the unsupported updates, correct?
[22:32] <Neremor> yes it worked.
[22:32] <Neremor> thanks :)
[22:36] <demon> i have deleted .xine and now my screen is on 640*480 pls help
[22:36] <BluesKaj> demon , how did you delete xine ?
[22:37] <demon> BluesKaj: i was aiming on .wine
[22:37] <puddle> hm
[22:38] <isus> првиет
[22:38] <isus> всем
[22:38] <demon> can any body help me
[22:38] <BluesKaj> !ru
[22:38] <isus> меня видно?
[22:38] <demon>   а мозеби не разбирас руски
[22:38] <demon> разбираш
[22:39] <BluesKaj> demon open adept type xine in the searchbar
[22:39] <isus> эээй
[22:39] <isus> помогите мне
[22:39] <demon> проблем??
[22:39] <jussi01> !en
[22:40] <isus> ))
[22:40] <BluesKaj> !ru | isus
[22:41] <isus> HEnOH9THO 4TO nuLLly???
[22:43] <|PaperTiger|> I have no sound... It suddenly went quiet... :S
[22:43] <|PaperTiger|> No music player plays music
[22:45] <isus> какие проблемы? у меня всего 1 вопрос!!!! нафик кикать?
[22:46] <isus> то что я пишу, читаемо???
[22:46] <kaddi> !ru
[22:53] <libervisco> There are lots of delays in window content loading around KDE..
[22:54] <libervisco> like.. activating quassel from the tray immediately shows only the blank window and then takes a second to loadits content..
[22:54] <libervisco> also switching between channels in quassel is delayed (but not due to quassel, I doubt it)..
[22:55] <libervisco> scrolling some lists in KDE is also sluggish
[22:55] <SSJ_GZ> libervisco: What graphics card do you have?
[22:55] <libervisco> Radeon X800
[22:55] <libervisco> currently on free drivers (tried fglrx but it froze X on starting kdm)
[22:56] <libervisco> Xorg CPU usually goes up whenever these delays occur.. though since similar things don't happen most of the time in GNOME I'd guess it's about the way something in KDE does things with X
[22:57] <SSJ_GZ> libervisco: Ah, OK.  I was expecting you to say "nvidia", to be honest: the nvidia drivers can give similar symptons to those you are seeing.
[22:57] <libervisco> ah
[22:57] <berniv6> libervisco: I have similar issues in Jaunty beta with the opensource radeon drivers
[22:58] <berniv6> libervisco: it's okay after startup, but gets worse and worst after a few hours of work
[22:58] <libervisco> berniv6: have you tried fglrx?
[22:58] <libervisco> oh yeah
[22:58] <libervisco> it kinda makes a fast computer seem slower so gets annoying
[22:58] <berniv6> libervisco: yeah, was worse and crashed
[22:58] <libervisco> hm
[22:59] <berniv6> libervisco: I notice it most often when switching tabs in konsole, which sounds similar to your quassel issue
[22:59] <libervisco> I guess fglrx is still not ready for jaunty
[22:59] <libervisco> yeah
[22:59] <dudu> prova
[22:59] <|PaperTiger|> I have no sound. No music player has sound. But my system makes a logout sound. Can someone help
[23:00] <berniv6> libervisco: no more info unfortunately, last time I described it here I was asked to wait for the next KDE 4.2 release (1st week of April I think)
[23:00] <berniv6> all I can say is it doesn't happen in Gnome
[23:00] <berniv6> and I don't think it happens with the Intel graphics on my notebook, although that one has its own share of issues in Jaunty
[23:01] <libervisco> ah
[23:01] <libervisco> I think it takes more delay the more content the window has..
[23:01] <berniv6> maybe its Qt 4.5 related, I had been running KDE 4.2 backport packages on Intrepid just fine before
[23:02] <libervisco> it always seemed like that to me in KDE4..
[23:02] <libervisco> I don't know.. gotta try fglrx again or when it's fixed
[23:03] <libervisco> KDE4.2.1 will be in jaunty right?
[23:04] <libervisco> oh wait I mean 4.2.2
[23:06] <libervisco> it comes on April 1
[23:08] <valgaav> on April 1 everything may happen :P
[23:08] <valgaav> maybe even KDe and GNOME will merge in to one DE  :)
[23:09] <libervisco> lol
[23:25] <amelie> hi
[23:25] <amelie> i need help; can't hear files on totem movie player
[23:26] <amelie> how do i enable sound?
[23:27] <amelie> I read something about the gtstreamer; I installed it, but the system told me it was already installed
[23:27] <amelie> and the sound is not working
[23:28] <kakeman> will kde3.5 be supported after 8.10 ?
[23:29] <kakeman> i like it
[23:32] <amelie> does anybody read me?
[23:33] <amelie> :(
[23:35] <libervisco> How do you de-install a widget?
[23:36] <amelie> well... you just hit the X mark at the bottom of it
[23:37] <amelie> when you put your mouse over it, it displays a side menu
[23:39] <libervisco> Isn't that just for removing it from the desktop? I mean deinstall..
[23:39] <libervisco> so it doesn't show in the "add widget" list
[23:40] <amelie> oh...
[23:42] <libervisco_> hm transparency in OS X widgets doesn't work
[23:42] <doblejota> Hi
[23:45] <doblejota> im sorry. Im new here. I used to install kubuntu for my self in a lot of pc and laptop, but now i have in front of mine a pc, that i cant set a resolution up to 1024x768. Now only display maximum 640x480. Its a atlon x2, 2 gb of ram, video card nvidia 8500 and monitor viewsonic e40