[17:47] <_MMA_> Call me crazy, but if I have multiple layers in GIMP and erase something on 1 layer, shouldn't I see the layer below?
[17:52] <thorwil> _MMA_: crazy
[17:52] <_MMA_> ;)
[17:52] <thorwil> _MMA_: check: there is a layer below, it is visible, it has content in that area
[17:53] <thorwil> _MMA_: you do not have a selection that interferes with erasing in that area
[17:53] <_MMA_> Nope.
[17:53] <thorwil> _MMA_: there is no layer mask that might get in the way. you are working on the layer, not the mask
[17:54] <thorwil> _MMA_: you are actually using the eraser tool
[17:54] <thorwil> _MMA_: you are in fact working with gimp
[17:55] <_MMA_> Yeah. (to all) :)
[17:55] <thorwil> mouse and keyboard are connected, the pc is plugged in and turned on
[17:55] <_MMA_> I even turned it off and on again.
[17:56] <thorwil> _MMA_: you checked all layers in between?
[17:56] <_MMA_> Just the 4.
[17:56] <thorwil> _MMA_: can you make that file available?
[17:57] <_MMA_> thorwil: I could, but for now I just worked around it. I'll dig more later.
[17:57] <thorwil> recently my dad complained that the stereo in the kitchen turned into mono. i checked the speaker cabling on both ends before i thought of the balance fader ... :)
[17:58] <kwwii> lol
[17:58] <_MMA_> hahah. I kinda did that the other day! :P
[17:59] <thorwil> dinner time!
[17:59] <Superdweeb> kwwii, new art themes, super dooper.
[17:59] <Superdweeb> background is awesome.
[17:59] <Superdweeb> job well done.
[17:59] <Superdweeb> GDM theme is a little shitty though, it's dark enough to scare people.
[17:59] <_MMA_> It's all shite! :P
[17:59] <kwwii> :D
[18:00] <Superdweeb> I've noticed an error with compiz on see?
[18:00] <Superdweeb> standard effects.
[18:00] <Superdweeb> you run firefox see?
[18:00] <Superdweeb> click on any menu and the menu will , erm , work, but the entry for the menu is blanked out.
[18:00] <_MMA_> thorwil: I set a box for the kids to watch movies. Turned it on, sound was wrong. ie: was missing a channel. Spent 2hrs going through ALSA stuff before I checked the cables. They had a short. :P
[18:04] <Superdweeb> guiz
[18:04] <Superdweeb> I've got this weird request
[18:05] <Superdweeb> see, I've never made this request, and I've been troubled by this issue since about, erm, 4.10.
[18:05] <Superdweeb> when you resize a gnome panel so it's only part, it has these thingies on the end
[18:05] <Superdweeb> with the braille on them
[18:05] <Superdweeb> and if you make your panel transparent, well those thingies are really ugly
[18:05] <Superdweeb> because they stay grey.
[18:05] <Superdweeb> I want to be rid of them ,but I don't know how to delete them.
[18:06] <Superdweeb> This IS AN IMPORTANT APPEARANCE MODIFICATION
[18:06] <Superdweeb> you guys worked magic with the rounded window corners
[18:06] <Superdweeb> And the new color theme is nothing less than perfection
[18:06] <_MMA_> Superdweeb: No. It;s a preference.I believe you can hack them out of the theme.
[18:06] <Superdweeb> HOW?
[18:07] <Superdweeb> those little stubs are as annoying as can be, and I have NEVER found a way to be rid of them
[18:08] <Superdweeb> the appearance panel needs to have a tab marked hacks , where users can turn on or off window corners, border width, gnome panel stuff like those little thingies, stuff like that.
[18:08] <_MMA_> Superdweeb: I certainly ain't gonna do it for ya. I got my own stuff to work on. But I'm 90% positive you can get rid of the "handles" in some fashion.
[18:08] <Superdweeb> Hey, I got lots of ideas that are stupid, but those handles have got to go.
[18:08] <_MMA_> Time for you to make it happen them. ;)
[18:08] <_MMA_> *then
[18:09] <Superdweeb> good one.
[18:09] <Superdweeb> I don't even know where to look.
[18:10] <Superdweeb> you people need to make an exporting utility for themes.
[18:10] <Superdweeb> not a save-as, an exporter to make a tar file with everything included.
[18:10] <Superdweeb> in fact, sabayon needs similar.
[18:10] <Superdweeb> people that want to customize tons of copies of ubuntu at once need a way to let the user do the modifications without re-building a release ISO.
[18:10] <_MMA_> Oh god. Please ask questions before you make assumptions about what we do here.
[18:10]  * _MMA_ points to topic.
[18:11] <Superdweeb> yes.
[18:11] <Superdweeb> artwork.
[18:11] <Superdweeb> you've got awesome artwork.
[18:11] <Superdweeb> sorry for trollin.
[18:11] <_MMA_> *community*
[18:11] <_MMA_> We do nothing with the technicals in Ubuntu or GNOME.
[18:11] <Superdweeb> well, you aut to annoy them a bit.
[18:12] <_MMA_> Well that's 1 way *you* can help. :)
[18:12] <Superdweeb> behdad estabod slipped a whole shit load of bugs into fedora ten, I'm glad jaunty will be released AFTER the patches were applied *shudders*
[18:13] <Superdweeb> GtkTheme=New Wave
[18:14] <Superdweeb> so I need a copy of the tar for the new wave theme
[18:18] <zniavre> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/New+Wave?content=87134
[18:18] <Superdweeb> thanks!
[18:19] <Superdweeb> Wait
[18:19] <Superdweeb> SUPER
[18:19] <Superdweeb> I didn't think ubuntu stuff got uploaded to places like that
[21:02] <nysosym> hi there :)
[21:02] <SiDi> hello
[21:11] <SiDi> I think it is
[21:11] <nysosym> hmm ok, but it doesn't match with the rest
[21:12] <SiDi> I think it goes really well with the Miu community theme
[21:12] <SiDi> and with human reprise, too
[21:38] <dashua> SiDi: I agree ;)
[21:38] <dashua> bzr branch lp:~dashua/murrine-themes/Ubuntu-Testing
[21:38] <SiDi> heya dashua :)
[21:38] <dashua> Added a higher contrast version and a few other tweaks if you want to test ;)
[21:38] <dashua> Hey mate
[21:39] <SiDi> dashua: is there a way to convince you to make a Human Reprise version with dark panels ? :P my gtk skills are not very high
[21:39] <SiDi> i'm gonna test this in a while, yeh
[21:39] <SiDi> right now, trying to get my jabber account working ^^
[21:39] <dashua> Sure. not hard
[21:39] <dashua> I'll make a mod for you
[21:40] <SiDi> Thanks :)
[21:40] <dashua> Np
[21:42] <SiDi> hm btw, i still have white toolbar text in firefox with this new human reprise version
[21:42] <SiDi> beginning to wonder if it doesnt come from me, or from intrepid+firefox+murrineSVN
[21:44] <SiDi> I like the new scrollbar, but i prefer the previous scrollbar-arrows, they had more details when being hovered :p
[21:49] <dashua> SiDi: Dark panel version committed.
[21:50] <dashua> SiDi: Arrows = steppers?
[21:50] <SiDi> Yeh
[21:50] <SiDi> i liked the fact that they were going brown when clicked, and the fact that they were fully bordered
[21:51] <dashua> Try changing stepperstyle = 2 in the gtkrc
[21:51] <dashua> See if that's what you mean
[21:52] <SiDi> Okies, sec
[21:52] <SiDi> Nice
[21:52] <SiDi> was that
[21:53] <SiDi> Well thanks :P
[21:53] <dashua> Np
[21:56] <SiDi> Thanks for the theme :)
[21:57] <SiDi> btw, still using Miu's metacity ?
[21:59] <dashua> SiDi: pull again, forgot something on the dark panels
[21:59] <dashua> Not really
[21:59] <dashua> I kind of abandoned it
[22:00] <SiDi> Is there a way to get tarballs from launchpad's web interface, btw ?
[22:00] <SiDi> bzr branch is awefully slow :p
[22:00] <dashua> Try bzr pull
[22:00] <dashua> It's usually pretty fast
[22:01] <dashua> Not sure how to do it
[22:01] <SiDi> Damn i need to go :(
[22:01] <SiDi> i'm in a public wifi room and they close it at eleven pm T_T
[22:02] <SiDi> i'll download that theme later, thanks again and have a nice evening dashua ;)
[22:02] <dashua> You too, c ya
[22:31] <kwwii> re