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John64is storm used much in the real world outside of launchpad?02:08
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* ScottK guesses this probably isn't the best place for people who would know.02:18
John64well, it is an Ubuntu developed platform.  oh well, thanks anyway02:33
Hobbsees/ubuntu/canonical/02:34
ScottKJohn64: It's nothing to do with Ubuntu.02:34
Hobbseeyou'd probably need to contact canonical directly.  I believe there are addresses on canonical.com02:35
John64ohkay, well, i wouldn't say it isn't 'nothing to do with ubuntu'02:35
ScottKJohn64: From a development perspective it is nothing to do with Ubuntu.02:35
ScottKUbuntu uses it and it is built on Ubuntu, but Ubuntu has nothing to do with LP development.02:35
John64since it is the basis of launchpad, and launchpad is a huge part of ubuntu, it is part of the development.  either way, thanks for your info02:36
wgrantIt has nothing to do with Ubuntu except being primarily developed by Ubuntu's sponsor.02:36
wgrant*prime sponsor02:36
wgrantWe can't see Launchpad's source, so what Launchpad uses has nothing whatsoever to do with us.02:37
Hobbseewgrant: he's gone, fwiw02:37
wgrantDamn.02:37
Hobbseeyou could always /query it to him, though02:37
ebroderUgh. I can never keep the procedure straight. If I'm asking for a Debian sync now, that's just for bugfixes (i.e. feature freeze shouldn't apply), who should I subscribe to the bug?02:44
ScottKebroder: Main or Universe package?02:44
ebroderuniverse02:44
ebroder(bug 350470)02:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 350470 in openafs "Sync openafs 1.4.8.dfsg1-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35047002:44
ScottKebroder: ubuntu-universe-sponsors02:45
ebroderOk. That's what I thought, just wanted to make sure they were still the right group this far into the release02:45
ebroderThanks02:45
OsamaKHello. Which package contains the new confriming message on shutdown, restart, logout?03:49
OsamaKI just wnat to translate it.03:49
HobbseeOsamaK: oss-notify, i think?03:54
OsamaKHobbsee, is it a GNOME package?03:55
Hobbseei'm not sure03:56
wgrantOsamaK, Hobbsee: It's fast-user-switch-applet04:04
wgrantHobbsee: You were thinking of notify-osd?04:05
Hobbseewgrant: er, yes, i probably was.04:05
wgrantTook me a while to remember that one.04:05
wgrantAnd I still think that indicator-applet is notification-applet04:06
OsamaKwgrant, is it GNOME?04:08
wgrantOsamaK: Those dialogs are not part of GNOME.04:09
wgrantI'm not sure about FUSA itself.04:09
OsamaKthanks.04:10
OsamaKwgrant, what about the 'shutdown' icon on the top right corner?04:17
wgrantOsamaK: The separate one, not FUSA?04:17
OsamaKwgrant, can you please link Jaunty Jackalope's fast-user-switch-applet page on launchpad?04:19
OsamaK(to get me directly into the needed translation)04:20
* wgrant looks.04:20
* wgrant hasn't dealt with Translations in a looong time.04:20
wgranthttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/fast-user-switch-applet04:21
wgrantOsamaK: ^^04:22
OsamaKgreat! thanks :)04:25
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StevenKasac: Gah, you broke firefox in Intrepid!11:52
StevenKasac: Now when I shade the window, it comes back fullscreen without window decorations.11:52
StevenKzul_: If the cheetah upload you performed didn't actually change anything, it should be -2build1.11:57
asacStevenK: what dies  "shade the window" mean?12:03
StevenKasac: So it's just the titlebar -- when I unshade it, it does that12:12
StevenKNow that I have your attention, it isn't. Bah.12:12
asacStevenK: i still dont know what "shade/unshading" means ;)12:14
asacminimizing?12:15
StevenKasac: No, it isn't minimising12:15
StevenKasac: Think of it as pulling down or putting up a windowshade12:15
asacStevenK: ah so compositing? compiz or metacity?12:15
StevenKasac: Compiz, yeah12:16
asacStevenK: so window decoration going away and ffox starting in fullscreen with titlebar behind panel has been reported in the past with compiz.12:18
StevenKasac: Ah ha!12:18
asaci think we fixed something in compiz, so its less frequent ... but personally, i never could reproduce it#12:19
asacStevenK: if you can reproduce it might make sense to open a compiz bug about it, so we can take a another poke at it;)12:19
StevenKasac: I can't even reproduce it now :-(12:20
asacheh12:20
asac;)12:20
lifelesskees: ping12:30
lifelesskees: I want to mark a function pointers as warn_if_result_ignored12:31
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Mithrandirlifeless: __attribute__ ((warn_unused_result))12:35
Mithrandirlifeless: http://blog.rlove.org/2005/10/with-little-help-from-your-compiler.html is quite ok.12:36
lifelessMithrandir: and it just works for function pointers too?12:50
lifelessMithrandir: concretely, I mean12:50
lifelessstruct {12:50
lifeless  int (*method) (void);12:51
lifeless} foo;12:51
lifeless...12:51
lifelessmyfoo->method(); <- this line is the one I want to blow up.12:51
lifelessMithrandir: ah yes, it does.12:52
lifelessthanks. [I know how to do it for regular functions, was just shy, shoulda jjust tried on the fptr)].12:53
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kklimondadoes enyone use vmware with ubuntu 9.04? i have a problem with automatic bridging..16:09
kklimondaanyone* ;/16:09
hyperairthis really isn't the place to ask16:11
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keeslifeless: yup, what Mithrandir said.  :)  Out of curiosity, where are you using it?16:40
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Superdweebhai guys, does anyone out there that you know, have a script that when executed downloads and executes everything required to totally recompile an ubuntu installation from source?17:58
SuperdweebI'm getting a gentoo itch but wubi only works with ubuntu and my pentium M does not support hardware virtualization.17:58
ebroderEven if there were such a script, why would you want to do that? Ubuntu doesn't have USE flags or anything, so you'd just be wasting your time17:59
ebroderYou wouldn't get binaries that are different from the binary distribution in any meaningful way18:00
Superdweebno use flags?18:00
SuperdweebI can't tweek the sheet out of it?18:00
SuperdweebHow about the kernel, I read some of the text from that big meeting you guiz had18:01
Superdweebyou've compiled support into the kernel for tons of stuff18:01
SuperdweebAny easy way to get rid of the modules?18:01
SuperdweebThere should be a GUI for that.18:01
ebroderWhy? Are you crunched for disk space? Modules don't get loaded if you don't need them18:02
Superdweebwell I use only super-old computers that happen to be just new enough to work ok.18:02
SuperdweebI tweaked the shit out of the services and stuff.18:02
Superdweebwhy the * does standard desktop ubuntu have rsync automatically running?18:02
savvasdoes anyone know how to get the screensaver status through dbus, as root for another user?18:35
savvasor should user-run applications send that status to root applications/services?18:36
AakashPatelhi everyone18:53
AakashPatelwho here has developed for the APT system on ubuntu?18:53
AakashPatellol 259 people on this channel...and no one?18:54
cody-somervilleWhat do you want to ask them?18:54
AakashPatelI am developing an APT like system for Android OS18:55
jdongthat kind of activity ratio should suggest that a lot of developers listen on this channel for important discussions pertaining to Ubuntu development.18:55
AakashPateland i dont get how the apt system get's a list of all apps...18:55
AakashPatel(this is releated to who it was APT works on ubuntu)18:56
jdongthis is a basic support question that's best answered by the APT support lists, or even -devel-discuss.18:57
jdongit's not on topic for this channel18:57
AakashPatelubuntu-devel-discuss ?18:57
AakashPatel#ubuntu-devel-discuss ?18:57
jdongubuntu-devel-discuss is a mailing list.18:58
AakashPatelerrr...18:58
jdonghave you tried APT's documentation for answering these questions?18:58
AakashPatelwhere is it?18:58
jdonghttp://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html18:59
jdongthat should answer your question on where APT gets its package list.18:59
jdong(from the Packages file in a repository)18:59
AakashPatelthanks19:00
jdonghttp://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html19:00
jdongthe Debian APT howto provides a great overview of APT's functionality too, though probably not as useful to answer your questions19:00
AakashPatelerr...whats the ubuntu main repo url?19:01
AakashPatelim not on my linux comp right now...19:02
cody-somervillearchive.ubuntu.com19:02
jdongfor example, see http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-updates/main/binary-i386/19:02
ebroderHey jdong: would you be up for looking at bug #348865?19:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 348865 in gsasl "[hardy] libgsasl7-dev missing dependencies on libntlm0-dev, libkrb5-dev" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34886519:06
jdongebroder: looking19:10
jdongebroder: yeah, definitely a bug that needs to be fixed; would you like to prepare the SRU debdiff or ask the OP to do the same?19:11
ebroderThere's a debdiff in the first ocmment19:11
jdongoh look at that :)19:11
ebroderThanks :)19:13
jdongsure thing19:18
UsamaAkkadhello, if some one want to do minimal install cd for Mint or similar Ubuntu based distribution. what file should he change ?19:31
* hyperair wonders if someone could look into bug #34976819:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 349768 in ubuntu "Wakeup timer doesn't work on HP Compaq" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34976819:31
hyperairshit wrong bug19:31
hyperairbug 34967819:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 349678 in nautilus-share "Please merge nautilus-share (0.7.2-4) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34967819:31
hyperairyeah that.19:31
nysosymhi there20:18
lfaraonejames_w: ping (or anyone else in ~ubuntu-archive, I have a license question for ye)20:32
jdong(directly asking the question works well in here; people actually read their scrollback)20:34
UsamaAkkadhello, if some one want to do minimal install cd for Mint or similar Ubuntu based distribution. what file should he change ?20:35
lfaraonejames_w: would a package which as a rule does not allow binary/source modification (unless you change the package's name) but a special exception has been made for Ubuntu packaging (anybody else who made further changes would have to rename the package) be acceptable in universe, or only in multiverse?20:37
lfaraonejdong: understood.20:37
jpdslfaraone: Sounds like http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/multiverse/s/spim/spim_7.4-0ubuntu1/spim.copyright20:42
slangasekmdke: why is the gnome-user-guide not split by language?20:46
lfaraonejpds: kk. spesifically, it's truecrypt.20:51
lfaraonejpds: which, while technically "FOSS" has a terrible license.20:52
jpdsYes, I know.20:52
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calcslangasek: ping21:59
calcslangasek: debian-bug 52174121:59
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 521741 could not be found21:59
calcslangasek: looks like that might be ugly, i assume that is something we probably should fix before release?22:00
calcslangasek: despite the package it is assigned to in debian it is not just a OOo bug22:00
calcslangasek: rene just reused the same bug report apparently and reassigned later to OOo22:01
james_wlfaraone: that's the sort of thing which would be multiverse material, but I believe truecrypt has other problems that may keep it from the archive.22:27
lfaraonejames_w: oh? such as?22:28
james_whttp://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/distributions/2008-October/000273.html22:28
james_whttp://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/distributions/2008-October/000276.html22:29
lfaraonejames_w: I see.22:34
james_wnot a definitive ruling, but it shows that there may be more to it than the usual restrictions22:35
mdkeslangasek: do you mean split into separate packages?23:08
mdkeslangasek: if so, I don't know. Neither gnome-user-docs nor ubuntu-docs splits into different languages, it's never been done that way. i guess the packaging for gnome-user-docs originally came from debian, but that's about all I know23:14
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