=== azeem_ is now known as azeem === Snova_ is now known as Snova === gmaculo_ is now known as gmaculo [02:08] is storm used much in the real world outside of launchpad? === vorian is now known as heHATEme [02:18] * ScottK guesses this probably isn't the best place for people who would know. [02:33] well, it is an Ubuntu developed platform. oh well, thanks anyway [02:34] s/ubuntu/canonical/ [02:34] John64: It's nothing to do with Ubuntu. [02:35] you'd probably need to contact canonical directly. I believe there are addresses on canonical.com [02:35] ohkay, well, i wouldn't say it isn't 'nothing to do with ubuntu' [02:35] John64: From a development perspective it is nothing to do with Ubuntu. [02:35] Ubuntu uses it and it is built on Ubuntu, but Ubuntu has nothing to do with LP development. [02:36] since it is the basis of launchpad, and launchpad is a huge part of ubuntu, it is part of the development. either way, thanks for your info [02:36] It has nothing to do with Ubuntu except being primarily developed by Ubuntu's sponsor. [02:36] *prime sponsor [02:37] We can't see Launchpad's source, so what Launchpad uses has nothing whatsoever to do with us. [02:37] wgrant: he's gone, fwiw [02:37] Damn. [02:37] you could always /query it to him, though [02:44] Ugh. I can never keep the procedure straight. If I'm asking for a Debian sync now, that's just for bugfixes (i.e. feature freeze shouldn't apply), who should I subscribe to the bug? [02:44] ebroder: Main or Universe package? [02:44] universe [02:44] (bug 350470) [02:44] Launchpad bug 350470 in openafs "Sync openafs 1.4.8.dfsg1-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350470 [02:45] ebroder: ubuntu-universe-sponsors [02:45] Ok. That's what I thought, just wanted to make sure they were still the right group this far into the release [02:45] Thanks [03:49] Hello. Which package contains the new confriming message on shutdown, restart, logout? [03:49] I just wnat to translate it. [03:54] OsamaK: oss-notify, i think? [03:55] Hobbsee, is it a GNOME package? [03:56] i'm not sure [04:04] OsamaK, Hobbsee: It's fast-user-switch-applet [04:05] Hobbsee: You were thinking of notify-osd? [04:05] wgrant: er, yes, i probably was. [04:05] Took me a while to remember that one. [04:06] And I still think that indicator-applet is notification-applet [04:08] wgrant, is it GNOME? [04:09] OsamaK: Those dialogs are not part of GNOME. [04:09] I'm not sure about FUSA itself. [04:10] thanks. [04:17] wgrant, what about the 'shutdown' icon on the top right corner? [04:17] OsamaK: The separate one, not FUSA? [04:19] wgrant, can you please link Jaunty Jackalope's fast-user-switch-applet page on launchpad? [04:20] (to get me directly into the needed translation) [04:20] * wgrant looks. [04:20] * wgrant hasn't dealt with Translations in a looong time. [04:21] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/fast-user-switch-applet [04:22] OsamaK: ^^ [04:25] great! thanks :) === asac_ is now known as asac [11:52] asac: Gah, you broke firefox in Intrepid! [11:52] asac: Now when I shade the window, it comes back fullscreen without window decorations. [11:57] zul_: If the cheetah upload you performed didn't actually change anything, it should be -2build1. [12:03] StevenK: what dies "shade the window" mean? [12:12] asac: So it's just the titlebar -- when I unshade it, it does that [12:12] Now that I have your attention, it isn't. Bah. [12:14] StevenK: i still dont know what "shade/unshading" means ;) [12:15] minimizing? [12:15] asac: No, it isn't minimising [12:15] asac: Think of it as pulling down or putting up a windowshade [12:15] StevenK: ah so compositing? compiz or metacity? [12:16] asac: Compiz, yeah [12:18] StevenK: so window decoration going away and ffox starting in fullscreen with titlebar behind panel has been reported in the past with compiz. [12:18] asac: Ah ha! [12:19] i think we fixed something in compiz, so its less frequent ... but personally, i never could reproduce it# [12:19] StevenK: if you can reproduce it might make sense to open a compiz bug about it, so we can take a another poke at it;) [12:20] asac: I can't even reproduce it now :-( [12:20] heh [12:20] ;) [12:30] kees: ping [12:31] kees: I want to mark a function pointers as warn_if_result_ignored === Igorot is now known as Knightlust [12:35] lifeless: __attribute__ ((warn_unused_result)) [12:36] lifeless: http://blog.rlove.org/2005/10/with-little-help-from-your-compiler.html is quite ok. [12:50] Mithrandir: and it just works for function pointers too? [12:50] Mithrandir: concretely, I mean [12:50] struct { [12:51] int (*method) (void); [12:51] } foo; [12:51] ... [12:51] myfoo->method(); <- this line is the one I want to blow up. [12:52] Mithrandir: ah yes, it does. [12:53] thanks. [I know how to do it for regular functions, was just shy, shoulda jjust tried on the fptr)]. === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [16:09] does enyone use vmware with ubuntu 9.04? i have a problem with automatic bridging.. [16:09] anyone* ;/ [16:11] this really isn't the place to ask === j_ack_ is now known as j_ack [16:40] lifeless: yup, what Mithrandir said. :) Out of curiosity, where are you using it? === Skiessio is now known as Skiessi [17:58] hai guys, does anyone out there that you know, have a script that when executed downloads and executes everything required to totally recompile an ubuntu installation from source? [17:58] I'm getting a gentoo itch but wubi only works with ubuntu and my pentium M does not support hardware virtualization. [17:59] Even if there were such a script, why would you want to do that? Ubuntu doesn't have USE flags or anything, so you'd just be wasting your time [18:00] You wouldn't get binaries that are different from the binary distribution in any meaningful way [18:00] no use flags? [18:00] I can't tweek the sheet out of it? [18:01] How about the kernel, I read some of the text from that big meeting you guiz had [18:01] you've compiled support into the kernel for tons of stuff [18:01] Any easy way to get rid of the modules? [18:01] There should be a GUI for that. [18:02] Why? Are you crunched for disk space? Modules don't get loaded if you don't need them [18:02] well I use only super-old computers that happen to be just new enough to work ok. [18:02] I tweaked the shit out of the services and stuff. [18:02] why the * does standard desktop ubuntu have rsync automatically running? [18:35] does anyone know how to get the screensaver status through dbus, as root for another user? [18:36] or should user-run applications send that status to root applications/services? [18:53] hi everyone [18:53] who here has developed for the APT system on ubuntu? [18:54] lol 259 people on this channel...and no one? [18:54] What do you want to ask them? [18:55] I am developing an APT like system for Android OS [18:55] that kind of activity ratio should suggest that a lot of developers listen on this channel for important discussions pertaining to Ubuntu development. [18:55] and i dont get how the apt system get's a list of all apps... [18:56] (this is releated to who it was APT works on ubuntu) [18:57] this is a basic support question that's best answered by the APT support lists, or even -devel-discuss. [18:57] it's not on topic for this channel [18:57] ubuntu-devel-discuss ? [18:57] #ubuntu-devel-discuss ? [18:58] ubuntu-devel-discuss is a mailing list. [18:58] errr... [18:58] have you tried APT's documentation for answering these questions? [18:58] where is it? [18:59] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html [18:59] that should answer your question on where APT gets its package list. [18:59] (from the Packages file in a repository) [19:00] thanks [19:00] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html [19:00] the Debian APT howto provides a great overview of APT's functionality too, though probably not as useful to answer your questions [19:01] err...whats the ubuntu main repo url? [19:02] im not on my linux comp right now... [19:02] archive.ubuntu.com [19:02] for example, see http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-updates/main/binary-i386/ [19:06] Hey jdong: would you be up for looking at bug #348865? [19:06] Launchpad bug 348865 in gsasl "[hardy] libgsasl7-dev missing dependencies on libntlm0-dev, libkrb5-dev" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348865 [19:10] ebroder: looking [19:11] ebroder: yeah, definitely a bug that needs to be fixed; would you like to prepare the SRU debdiff or ask the OP to do the same? [19:11] There's a debdiff in the first ocmment [19:11] oh look at that :) [19:13] Thanks :) [19:18] sure thing [19:31] hello, if some one want to do minimal install cd for Mint or similar Ubuntu based distribution. what file should he change ? [19:31] * hyperair wonders if someone could look into bug #349768 [19:31] Launchpad bug 349768 in ubuntu "Wakeup timer doesn't work on HP Compaq" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349768 [19:31] shit wrong bug [19:31] bug 349678 [19:31] Launchpad bug 349678 in nautilus-share "Please merge nautilus-share (0.7.2-4) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349678 [19:31] yeah that. [20:18] hi there [20:32] james_w: ping (or anyone else in ~ubuntu-archive, I have a license question for ye) [20:34] (directly asking the question works well in here; people actually read their scrollback) [20:35] hello, if some one want to do minimal install cd for Mint or similar Ubuntu based distribution. what file should he change ? [20:37] james_w: would a package which as a rule does not allow binary/source modification (unless you change the package's name) but a special exception has been made for Ubuntu packaging (anybody else who made further changes would have to rename the package) be acceptable in universe, or only in multiverse? [20:37] jdong: understood. [20:42] lfaraone: Sounds like http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/multiverse/s/spim/spim_7.4-0ubuntu1/spim.copyright [20:46] mdke: why is the gnome-user-guide not split by language? [20:51] jpds: kk. spesifically, it's truecrypt. [20:52] jpds: which, while technically "FOSS" has a terrible license. [20:52] Yes, I know. === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Ng_ is now known as Ng === edson is now known as dmesg === dmesg is now known as edson [21:59] slangasek: ping [21:59] slangasek: debian-bug 521741 [21:59] Error: Launchpad bug 521741 could not be found [22:00] slangasek: looks like that might be ugly, i assume that is something we probably should fix before release? [22:00] slangasek: despite the package it is assigned to in debian it is not just a OOo bug [22:01] slangasek: rene just reused the same bug report apparently and reassigned later to OOo [22:27] lfaraone: that's the sort of thing which would be multiverse material, but I believe truecrypt has other problems that may keep it from the archive. [22:28] james_w: oh? such as? [22:28] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/distributions/2008-October/000273.html [22:29] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/distributions/2008-October/000276.html [22:34] james_w: I see. [22:35] not a definitive ruling, but it shows that there may be more to it than the usual restrictions [23:08] slangasek: do you mean split into separate packages? [23:14] slangasek: if so, I don't know. Neither gnome-user-docs nor ubuntu-docs splits into different languages, it's never been done that way. i guess the packaging for gnome-user-docs originally came from debian, but that's about all I know === emgent_ is now known as emgent