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* genii sips00:45
geniiWeird. Some guy apparently getting upset at someone thanking the bot02:09
FlannelThat is odd.02:11
naliothanyone know anything about aliases and scripting for irssi?02:11
geniiFlannel: Maybe te bot gets thanked more than he does02:12
naliothhow to put a random interval into an alias?02:12
FlannelWhat sort of alias?02:12
naliotha timed action02:13
FlannelErm... ok, Alias in what?02:14
nalioth1238289110 20:11 <+nalioth> anyone know anything about aliases and scripting for irssi?02:15
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FlannelAh yes.02:15
FlannelWell...02:16
Flannel!enter02:16
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:16
Flannel;)02:16
Flannelnalioth: /wait X02:17
Flannelso, foo;/wait X;bar;02:17
naliothFlannel: how do you get X to be [random inteval here]02:18
Flannelnalioth: Store [next random interval] in a variable, and then update the variable after you use it?02:20
naliothFlannel: how do you store a random number?02:21
tsimpsonmaybe you could create a script "#!/bin/bash \n echo $RANDOM" and call that from an alias02:23
naliothtsimpson: how about if you want a random interval between 60 seconds and 900 seconds ?02:35
tsimpsonnalioth: I guess with: RAND=$RANDOM; until [ $RAND -ge 60 -a $RAND -le 900 ]; do RAND=$RANDOM; done; echo $RAND02:36
tsimpsonbut it's not pretty02:37
naliothi'll say.02:37
tsimpsonor echo $(((RANDOM%590)+10))02:39
naliothi'll file those snippets away02:40
tsimpsonerm, 540)+1002:40
tsimpsonerm, 6002:40
tsimpson2:40am == bad math time02:40
naliothfor when i figure out where to stick 'em :p02:41
tsimpson/exec -o echo 'echo $(((RANDOM%540)+60))'|bash02:43
tsimpsonnow that's ugly :)02:43
tsimpsonbut works02:44
naliothso ugly, i have no idea how it would work02:44
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* Flannel mips03:41
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geniiHm04:52
bazhanghmm04:52
geniibazhang: I just checked in and saw all the mipping,flipping,zipping, etc04:52
FlannelHmmm04:52
bazhanggenii, hehe04:53
geniiMust be a slow night ;)04:53
bazhangnetwork hubs?04:53
genii?04:54
bazhangzaccour in #u04:54
geniiAh04:55
elkygenii, are you trying to jinx us?05:06
geniielky: Well, some excitement wouldn't hurt ;)05:07
elkyyes it would, i'm supposed to be cleaning my flat for inspection on thursday05:08
* genii performs an anti-jinx coffee ritual05:10
Flannelgenii: which one's that?05:10
geniiFlannel: One I just made up to comfort the superstitious05:10
elkymurphy's law is not superstition05:11
geniiAh, I do agree with Murphy, yes05:11
geniielky: If you lived in my neighbourhood I'd offer to vacuum your flat or so05:12
elkythe vacuuming is the easy part05:13
elkypicking up all the crap i have lying around on the other hand...05:13
geniiI have usually the same problem05:14
bazhang<sirstan> I am going to be travling for a while.. what command line parameters do i use with wget to download the internet?06:10
bazhangthe whole thing ??06:10
Flannelbazhang: Sure.06:10
elkybazhang, tell him he has not the time. google started in 1998 and still does not have everything06:11
bazhangpoint it at the wayback machine to start :)06:11
* genii sneaks a coffee07:05
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, MTecknology said: !success is <reply>FATAL Error: Operation failed | for -offtopic07:05
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, joetheodd said: ubottu, bsod is You're still using Windows?07:09
geniiSomeone might need to keep an eye on chengcheng in #u08:29
geniiSorry, -offtopic   08:30
bazhang@bansearch dingding08:45
ubottuMatch: *!*@host-static-92-115-23-*.moldtelecom.md by Pici in #ubuntu on Mar 27 2009 13:16:20 (ID: 11693)08:45
bazhangthought dingding was banned in #kubuntu as well08:47
elkychengcheng = dingding?08:49
bazhangno; turns out dingding is ban-evading in #kubuntu as well, just that the ban set there is easier to get around08:51
bazhangdingding is cristi, cristi_, crismusg, and several others08:51
ikoniaahh dingding back again for more09:22
* jussi01 waves to ikonia09:22
ikonialooks like he meant it when he said he'd learnt his lesson, and it was wrong to ban him......he's still ban dodging09:22
ikoniautter tosh09:22
ikoniahey09:23
tsimpsonikonia: I've strengthened the ban in #k09:23
ikoniajussi01: didn't see youthere09:24
ikoniatsimpson: so I saw, thank you09:24
Myrttigood morning10:04
ikoniahello uk'er10:05
Myrtti>____< http://www.last.fm/user/myrtti/shoutbox10:06
* jussi01 sighs at the backlog in -women... :/10:08
Myrttibah, should get up and cracking. Need to buy varnish, sandpaper, splenda, light bulbs, brushes, brushcleaner, stapler gun...10:14
MyrttiI get to paint \o/10:15
Garyoh no10:15
Garydon't forget to take a pic of you covered in paint10:15
Garywhat colour btw?10:15
Myrtticlear varnish probably. and I wont be covered in it, I'm far too trained10:16
Garyaww, can you come decorate my place please?  I always end up the colour of the walls10:16
Myrttimy mum is an interiour painter and I've been putting wallpapers and painting walls and ceilings and stuff far too long10:16
Myrttistarting at age seven or so10:17
Garylast time I was a nice magnolia colour, some of the paint was stuck in awkward places!10:17
GaryO_O  I meant ears and stuff!10:17
jussi01Gary: rofl10:18
ikoniaMyrtti: what are you painting ?10:18
Myrttiikonia: kitchen dining table and four chairs10:18
MyrttiI was surprised that the chairs and tables I thought were the best looking were the cheapest and being unfinished allow me to do finish them myself to any colour I want10:19
Myrttisolid pine ♥ 10:19
popeypink?10:20
Garypaint em PINK!10:20
popey:)10:20
Garyhaha, popey you is so gay10:20
popeyhello sailor10:20
Myrtti"NO"10:20
Myrtticame a voice from the bathroom10:20
Garyeye eye sailor10:20
Myrttiyou guys crack me up10:21
GaryMyrtti: how about pastel colours with bunnies and flowers?10:21
Myrtti"NO"10:21
Garylike that terrible wallpaper you linked me to a while ago10:21
ikoniaMyrtti: have you actually moved over here ?10:22
ikoniaMyrtti: I thought you where only over for a month or so10:22
Myrttium... no10:22
Myrttihaven't moved10:22
ikoniaooh, ok10:22
Myrttiit's not my decision to make ;-)10:22
ikoniaok10:22
Myrttiif I'm invited, I'll consider10:22
Garylies, if you agrue enough, you will win10:22
MyrttiGary: I'm not coming with my bags and stuff and just say "I'm moving in"10:23
jussi01Gary: LIES - you argue enough you get punched in the face...10:23
popeynot the face! not the face!10:23
Garyjussi01: well thats how it works for me yeah10:23
Myrttiit's not my house and I'm not paying the mortgage10:23
Myrttinot to gumdrop buttons!10:23
Myrttis/to/the/10:23
GaryMyrtti: if you decorate, move in here, keep tomothy company during the week10:24
Garyif you can scare him enough so he gets a job, i'll be really thankful10:24
jussi01Gary: just tell him youll send him to visit me if he doesnt get a job... :P10:25
Myrtti"boo"10:26
Garywho killed the topic in -offtopic :p10:44
jussi01Gary: I blame you...10:45
ikonia@bansearch Psuedo10:51
ubottuNo matches found for psuedo!n=chatzill@unaffiliated/psuedo in any channel10:51
elkyi dont recall saying that -ot could start idiot season...10:57
DavieyGary: i'll move in with Gary, as a favour11:20
Davieyerr Tomothy11:20
ikoniaI think the user Psuedo is Panarchy11:37
ikonianow I'm certain11:37
ikoniaI mentioned the name "panarchy" in ##linux and Psuedo joined #freenode to see if I was mentioning it in there11:37
ikoniahow he's asking if people can see through cloakes - it's panarchy and he's panicing11:39
ikonia11:35 < Psuedo> better to have multiple layers of redundancy11:39
ikonia11:35 < ikonia> your panarchy11:39
ikonia11:36 -!- Psuedo [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/psuedo] has joined #freenode11:40
ikonia@mark #ubuntu Psuedo looks like panarchy 11:42
ubottuThe operation succeeded.11:42
elkyheh11:43
ikoniaI'm %80 certain11:44
ikoniasame attitude/same questions/same inability to understand a response/installing 5'os on one box/couldn't work grub and then panic'd when I metioned the name panarchy11:44
elkyi think christel is the one who dealt with panarchy. other staff may not know the relevence11:51
ikoniaelky: yeah, just want them to confirm if it's the same ISP / Range / Country 11:51
ikoniaelky: the nick was only just registered too a few days ago - after he was banned again from otfw11:51
ikoniachristel: ping11:52
Mezand now this is where my logs start confusing me11:54
ikonia?11:54
MezDST :D11:54
christelhoppla!11:58
ikoniahello 11:59
ikoniachristel: could you do me a favour and see if the user Psuedo who just quit has anything in common with the now famous user Panarchy11:59
ikoniachristel: I've got a pretty good reason to suspect it's the same guy and that he's kline/ban dodging11:59
christelhe coonnected from *.mstarmetro.net12:00
ikoniadoesn't seem the same guy then12:00
christelwhich doesnt match panarchy12:00
ikoniaeverything else matched almost perfectly12:00
christelhaving said that, it could be panarchy if he's discovered proxies12:00
elkyikonia, idiots are rarely unique ;)12:00
ikoniaelky: this was almost word for word12:01
ikoniaand he panic'd when I said the name panarchy12:01
ikoniajoined freenode and started asking if people could see through cloaks12:01
ikoniahis questions where identical to panarchys, he was doing exactly the same thing, having exactly the same problems etc etc12:01
christelcompletely ignore me12:01
ikoniachristel: ?12:02
christelthe host was that of the person who owns the nic12:02
christelbut the user earlier didnt identify12:02
christeloh they did, i just cant misspell psuedo !12:02
ikoniaha ha ha12:02
christelgive me 2ticks 12:02
ikoniaI was just about to say it did12:02
ikoniaa new nick too registered 1 day after panarchy was again banned from otfw12:03
elkyotfw?12:03
ikoniaotfc12:03
elkyah12:04
christelok that looks more like panarchy12:04
ikoniachristel: thought so 12:04
christelnew south wales bigpond.au ip12:04
ikoniachristel: do I get a badge ?12:04
elkythat's panarchy alright12:04
christelyou do! you get a badge and he gets a new kline!12:05
ikoniaha ha ha12:05
elkynow if only we could get rid of umakant and the fruity one so easy12:06
ikoniaelky: he's klined :)12:06
christelheehe what are they up to12:06
ikoniaelky: yesteday 12:06
elkyikonia, umakant is klined?12:06
christeli dont get panarchy, for a troll he's bloody weird, but he's definitely not not-a-troll12:06
ikoniaelky: as in icebuntu12:06
ikoniachristel: he's a moron 12:06
ikoniachristel: it's that simple12:06
christelhehe12:07
ikoniachristel: trying to be a "hacker"12:07
ikoniaclaims he's a paid black hat hacker, yet can't boot an OS12:07
christelhahaha12:07
elkyikonia, nice. now, fruit salad's turn12:07
ikoniahttp://alesi.projecthugo.co.uk/kline_truck.jpg12:07
ikoniajump in !12:07
ikonia(sorry - it's a new thing for me in the UK, still laughing about it) 12:07
elkyikonia, any sign of the fruity one today?12:09
christelhehe12:10
ikoniaelky: one at a time please12:10
elkynegative for apple, negative for orange, negative for lemon12:12
ikoniahe'll run out of fruit soon and move to vege's12:12
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bazhang<Fujisan> hi friends13:28
elkyyes, i know13:32
elkyhe's also in ##australia and various kde chans13:32
elkyhe got his free k-ticket13:42
elkyikonia, still around?13:57
ikoniayes13:58
ikoniajust come back funny enough13:58
elkyikonia, you have contacts on #oftc, yes? fujisan has creepied his way over to there and is now haunting hobbsee and i13:59
ikoniaI have no contacts at all on there 13:59
ikoniaI'm just a pleb user13:59
elkyhe noticed when i joined #oftc and suddenly joined it and proclaimed it his new freenode13:59
ikoniaelky what's he logged in as ?14:00
elkyfujiosan14:00
ikoniaI see him14:00
elkyi mean, i'm one of 4 people in #debian-au there, and suddenly he joins. creepy as14:01
ikoniajust stupid14:01
Myrttinobody in camlug is intrested about a sunday meetup :-(14:01
ikoniaI suppose talking to one of the ops is pointless ?14:01
Myrttisitting at cb2 with mah n800, tumbleweed n crickets14:01
ikoniaoh dear14:01
Myrttihorrring14:01
ikoniaMyrtti: you're welcome to the BBLUG next weekend14:01
elkyikonia, i asked in #oftc for stalker protections, but the on-duty are useless14:02
ikoniaughh14:02
bazhangis that channel on freenode? #oftc14:02
ikonianah14:02
ikoniait's on oftc14:02
bazhangaha14:02
bazhangI just joined an empty channel :)14:02
Myrttiikonia: planning to take a day off for london release party ;-)14:03
ikoniaah well14:03
christelpartypartyparty!14:13
ikoniaughhh I've just had to fire my wordpress developer14:14
ikoniathe guy is 3 months late and still not getting anywhere - gutted14:15
elkydeveloping what?14:19
ikoniawordpress theme14:20
ikonianothing more14:20
ikoniajust hunting for a new guy now14:20
elkywordpress themes are stupid simple14:21
ikoniayou need a design first14:21
elkythat is true14:21
ikoniathe guy did an good mockup, then struggled to make that mockup a functioning design, made some compromises then struggled to make it work as a theme14:22
ikoniahad to knock it on the head and I'll have to find someone new, 14:22
bazhangfor a blog?14:23
ikoniabit more than a blog, but yeah14:23
bazhangwow you must be uber-rich :)14:23
ikonia???????14:24
ikoniahiring someone to do a proffesional design for a project? 14:25
bazhangI get all my wordpress themes from wordpress.com stock :(14:25
ikoniayeah, this needs to be a new unique one14:25
bazhangaha14:25
ikoniaI get all mine from there too14:25
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jussi01ikonia: the oxygen designer is looking for work... perhaps he could do something for you? (has artistic ability, not sure about wordpress stuff...) 15:43
jussi01!forget nvidia-beta15:51
ubottuI'll forget that, jussi0115:51
LjLclient incoming16:13
shadeslayerhi 16:13
LjLshadeslayer: nothing against me pasting our query for the others here to catch up?16:13
shadeslayerno problem16:13
LjLhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/140155/16:14
LjLplease check this if you know a bit about the history here16:14
LjLand/or if you're in the mood to match hostmasks16:14
shadeslayerLjL: im sorry,what do you mean16:15
ikoniaallow me to interject16:16
ikoniashadeslayer: your telling lies16:16
shadeslayerok16:16
ikoniashadeslayer: you admited to me you where rohan and you where sorry for telling lies about being him16:17
ikoniayou did it beacause you where curious 16:17
ikoniado you remember that conversation16:17
shadeslayerikonia: no,i told you and LjL that i was rohan for the first 15 days of jan16:17
LjLshadeslayer: i was talking to the other ops16:17
ikoniano - you where before that16:17
ikoniaLjL: ahh sorry 16:17
LjLikonia: ?16:17
ikoniaand maddy also you where maddy 16:18
LjLikonia: i was responding to the "what do you mean"16:18
ikoniaLjL: oh16:18
ikoniathought I was treading on your toes16:18
LjLhi Nuken16:19
shadeslayerok so the basic thing is im shadeslayer from 15 jan,thats it16:19
ikoniano16:19
ikoniathats not the basic 16:19
Nukenhi LjL16:19
ikoniayou have been rhoan from before that - and admited it, you have been ugreat and admited it, you have been maddy and admited it16:19
shadeslayerand i was rohan till 15th jan16:19
shadeslayerikonia: i did admit16:19
ikoniaok - so you're keeping up with that lie, I won't discuss it futher16:19
shadeslayerbut not for rohan16:19
LjLshadeslayer...16:20
LjLyou had the ident "rohan"16:20
shadeslayerikonia: what lie,i accept all the facts, i was urgreat,imgreat and maddy16:20
LjLas the "other" rohan16:20
LjLyou were from the *same subnet*16:20
LjLhow can we seriously believe you?16:20
shadeslayerLjL: subnet??16:20
LjLshadeslayer: same pool of addresses.16:20
shadeslayerLjL: well i told you that i and he live in the same country and same region16:21
LjLright16:21
LjLbut what are the chances16:21
shadeslayeri dont knoe16:21
ikonianone after he admited it was him to me16:21
LjLthat two people with the same first name, from the same subnet, join the same channels on the same irc network?16:21
shadeslayer*know16:21
LjLa lake MAY freeze in the summer16:22
shadeslayerLjL: u can as in #freenode who rohan is registered to16:22
LjLbut if we based what we do on that possibility, we'd never do anything16:22
LjLshadeslayer: freenode staff will not tell me what a cloak's IP address is16:22
shadeslayerLjL: in all totality,i was not rohan from 15th jan16:22
ikoniayou admited to being rhoan before that to me16:23
ikoniawhen I caught you being maddy16:23
ikoniaand you explained you wanted to test what happened if you ban dodged16:23
shadeslayerikonia: i was admitting to bein rohan *before* 15th jan16:23
LjLshadeslayer: do you want me to ask freenode staff to confirm or deny the possibility that you two are the same?16:23
shadeslayeryes you can ask16:23
ikoniashadeslayer: I caught you changing nicks from rohan to maddy 16:23
ikoniaafter Jan16:24
shadeslayermay i join freenode to check too16:24
LjL!staff | please, can you check for shadeslayer (on his request) whether the "rohan" account and the "shadeslayer" account may correspond to the same user?16:24
ubottuplease, can you check for shadeslayer (on his request) whether the "rohan" account and the "shadeslayer" account may correspond to the same user?: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could  use a bit of your time :)16:24
ikoniaI verfied this with your client ID to - when I versioned you 16:24
shadeslayerikonia: rohan was registered,so i had to change nicks16:24
ikoniaok - I'm out of this conversation as you are now telling lies16:24
shadeslayerikonia: i had just reinstalled quassel,the default nick was rohan16:24
ikoniathe default nick is not rohan16:25
shadeslayerikonia: no im not telling lies16:25
LjLlet's wait a moment for a response from staff, shall we?16:25
shadeslayerok16:25
ikoniayes lets16:25
christeldoesnt appear to be registered to the same person (different ips, different email)16:25
shadeslayersee16:25
LjLthank you christel16:25
naliother, okay16:25
LjLbe right back, phone16:26
shadeslayerikonia: will that satisfy you?16:26
ikoniano16:26
ikoniaI didn't say you where registerd as rhoan16:26
ikoniaI said you where using the nick16:26
shadeslayerikonia: please tell me,what will16:26
ikoniawhich you admited to me 16:26
ikoniaI caught you chaging nick from shadeslayer to maddy, and rhoan to maddy123 16:26
shadeslayerikonia: as i said the nick was registered,had to change nicks16:26
ikoniathat was after Jan 16:26
LjLuhm, i need to leave home for a minute16:27
ikoniaas you can see you can use a nick that is not registered16:27
ikoniathat is registered sorry16:27
rohanhi - I'm using a registered nick 16:27
shadeslayerikonia: let me tell you,i changed from shadeslayer to rohan(registred),Nickserv tells me to identify,i cant,so i change nicks to maddy 16:28
shadeslayerikonia: did nickserv tell you to identify??16:28
rohanI am using a registered nick16:29
shadeslayeryes,did nickserv say anything16:29
=== rohan is now known as maddy123
maddy123I have changed nicks16:29
maddy123exactly the same as you did16:29
ikoniayes, nickserv warned me it was registered, but I ignored it, same way you did 16:29
shadeslayerno,i changed nicks,i always do16:30
ikonia"ok" 16:30
shadeslayeri thought that it had a 30 sec limit16:30
christelit does, but only if the account owner has set enforce on :)16:31
ikoniathis is a pointless conversation as I caught you doing it and spoke to you about it - and you admited it 16:31
shadeslayeri didnt know that,i thought it had a 30 sec limit,i changed nicks in what 10 sec16:31
ikoniaand that was after jan16:31
shadeslayerikonia: yes,i know,you caught me,i was changing nicks as nickserv told me16:32
ikoniafrom rohan to maddy16:32
ikoniaand that was after january16:32
shadeslayerunfourtunately you came at the precise moment when i was changing nicks16:32
ikoniawell, enough of this16:33
shadeslayeryes,because Chanserv told me16:33
ikoniawhen you are prepared to tell the truth 16:33
ikoniaI'll chat more about it16:33
shadeslayerikonia: i am telling it16:33
shadeslayerwhen i say lies you say i lie,when i say the truth you rebuke me for lying again16:34
ikoniathat is the price of being a known liar16:34
ikoniaand as I said I CAUGHT you changing nicks from rohan AFTER january so I know your telling me lies16:34
shadeslayeri am admitting that i changed nicks,*but* just because chanserv told me16:35
shadeslayer*nickserv16:35
ikoniabut you said you didn't use rohan after January - so explain that? 16:35
shadeslayerso when did i actually *use* rohan??16:36
ikoniayou've used it many times16:36
shadeslayeri was changing nicks thats all16:36
shadeslayerno16:36
ikoniaahh this is going no-where16:36
ikoniathis is the price of being a known and admited lair16:36
ikoniait's impossible to believe anything you say without proof16:36
ikonialiar 16:37
shadeslayerhavent i repaid it yet??16:37
shadeslayerive been out of here for the past 2 weeks16:37
shadeslayer*116:37
ikoniayou where a pain for months16:37
ikoniaand you've only been out BECAUSE you where banned16:38
ikoniaafter months of ban dodging16:38
shadeslayernot from #kubuntu16:38
ikoniano, you're in there because you're not banned ?16:38
shadeslayermonths??? shouldnt that be days??16:38
shadeslayerikonia: was not there for a whole week16:38
ikoniabecause you where banned16:38
shadeslayerno,i wasnt banned from kubuntu16:39
ikoniaoh you mean you've not been in #kubuntu fora week ?16:39
shadeslayerno16:39
ikoniawhat do you mean then ?16:39
shadeslayeryes,i mean ive not been in #kubuntu for a week16:39
ikoniayes you have16:39
ikoniayou've been in on a regular basis since being banned16:40
shadeslayeri was told to " keep out " from any *buntu channel16:40
ikoniayet you've been in on a regular basis16:40
shadeslayerno16:40
ikoniayou're in there now !16:40
shadeslayernot for the past week16:40
shadeslayeryes,after i got a snag16:41
ikonialook this is going nowhere I won't be lifting my bans because you are a proven liar and you have done nothing to prove otherwise to me16:41
shadeslayerikonia: im talking about the past week16:41
shadeslayerikonia: im not asking to lift the ban16:41
ikoniaoh, ok - then what do you want16:41
shadeslayerikonia: im here to talk about how much more time ill have to stay out16:41
shadeslayerand about my behaiour16:42
ikoniauntil people have confidence that you're not an issue or a liar any more16:42
shadeslayerwhen will that be?16:42
ikoniawhen you can prove to people you're not telling lies and you're not an issue in the channel16:42
shadeslayerhow do i do that.without being let in16:43
ikoniathe way you act when you talk to us in here 16:43
shadeslayerhow do i act then16:43
shadeslayeri say the truth,you brand me a liar16:44
ikoniahowever you want, I have no confidence you're telling the truth based on what I've seen 16:44
ikoniaif others beleive you then they maybe more willing to listen to you16:44
shadeslayerok,ill wait for LjL16:45
ikoniashadeslayer: come back later then and speak to LJL see if he feels differently16:45
shadeslayerikonia: are you sure you wont influence him behind my back??16:46
ikoniahe is strong enough to make up his own mind16:46
shadeslayerok16:46
ikoniaoh and for the record do you also admit to being sh4d3sl4y3r!16:46
shadeslayerbye them16:46
shadeslayer*then16:46
shadeslayerikonia: absolutely not16:46
ikoniaok 16:47
ikonia@mark #ubuntu-ops shadeslayer request to be unbanned16:48
ubottuThe operation succeeded.16:48
LjLok for the record, the ban might even be removed for all that i'm concerned16:55
LjLif he just behaves in the future, then meh16:55
ikoniayour call16:56
ikoniaI'm not lifting mine without a good reason, more so as he's just lied in here 16:56
LjL(i've been called down by a friend who went to a fair and gave me as a present... a deck of "binary cards" :o)16:58
ikoniaughhh16:58
ikoniageek gift16:58
LjLwell, he's not a nerd, but he is convinced i am one...16:59
LjL... for some reason ...16:59
LjL... the reason possibly being that i am ...16:59
ikoniabusted16:59
LjLikonia: i did tell him the whole story about the Grundy function and nim-sum in games theory as a punishment17:01
ikoniaso a good reason to think you are a nerd17:01
LjLNuken: did you want to ask us anything?17:02
ikonia@bansearch Guest_50917:02
ubottuNo matches found for guest_509!n=guest@host86-128-75-8.range86-128.btcentralplus.com in any channel17:02
LjLikonia: he joined -read-topic, but his current nick isn't an exploit victim's17:05
ikoniaodd17:05
LjLikonia: i'm asking him about it. freenode servers lately have had bad desync17:06
LjLi might just not be seeing the ban from my server17:06
shadeslayer_LjL, you there??17:07
LjLshadeslayer_, yes17:07
=== shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer
shadeslayerLjL, do you trust me?17:07
shadeslayerthat i speak the truth,and not lie ?17:08
LjLshadeslayer: it's hard to say. as i said all evidence points to you being rohan17:08
LjLshadeslayer: besides, even if you are not, you've been banned several times as shadeslayer17:08
shadeslayerLjL, i am rohan,i real life,the nick rohan belongs to someone else as freenode pointed out17:09
shadeslayerLjL, i promise to behave17:09
LjLshadeslayer: yes, i meant to say there's evidence you are the "other" rohan17:09
shadeslayeroh....ok17:09
shadeslayerLjL, so now,i ask,will you unban me?17:10
Nukensomebody here use XenServer?17:10
shadeslayeri promised that i wont join any *buntu channel for a week,i kept my promise17:11
FlannelNuken: This isn't a support channel, you should try #ubuntu17:11
Nukenoh sorry17:11
Nukeni use slackware17:11
Nukenthanks17:12
LjLshadeslayer: i'll remove the ban that was set by me - if you have any other bans, i won't remove those17:12
shadeslayerok17:12
LjLshadeslayer: please consider this temporary, though17:12
shadeslayerLjL, sure17:12
shadeslayerLjL, i know the ops will always be watching17:12
LjLshadeslayer: i reserve to investigate some more to look for other evidence on whether you are or are not the "other" rohan17:12
LjLshadeslayer: yes, that, but also the fact i want to check better17:13
LjLshadeslayer: but on that topic too, i'm sure you realize we'll be watching you very attentively, so one more instance of misbehavior, and you're gone17:13
shadeslayerLjL, i will keep that in mind17:13
shadeslayerLjL, can you tell me if i have other bans as well?17:13
LjLshadeslayer: i guess the easiest way is to try joining17:14
shadeslayerLjL, so ban removed?17:14
LjLyes17:14
shadeslayerthanks,i can join17:14
shadeslayerthanks to all the ops for believing in me17:15
LjLGuest_509 is getting redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic17:17
LjLhe's connected to Verne17:17
LjLi can't see a ban on him, either from my server or Verne17:17
LjLanyone has better eyes than me?17:17
Guest_509worked now..17:18
LjLwait, you are in #ubuntu now17:18
ikoniaI couldn't see anything earlier17:18
ikoniahe was in #ubuntu before though as guest and xnxnxn or something similar17:18
ikoniahe wasn't banned he kept leaving on his own17:18
LjLGuest_509: what were you typing to join?17:18
Guest_509/join #ubuntu17:18
Guest_509but 2nd time i join it make me in #ubuntu-read-topic17:19
* LjL scratches his head17:19
LjLikonia: the other nicks he had don't look banned, either17:20
LjLGuest_509: ok look, if this happens again, please join here and ask us about it17:21
Guest_509ok, thk you17:21
LjL@mark #ubuntu-ops Guest_509 Apparently getting redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic without a ban in place that I could find, told him to come back if the problem happens again17:22
ubottuThe operation succeeded.17:22
LjL@mark #ubuntu-ops shadeslayer Unbanned with (strong) reserve, see also http://paste.ubuntu.com/140155/ - Please ban again on any instance of even slight bad behavior17:23
ubottuThe operation succeeded.17:23
jussi01ok, this is curious. I wonder if its my client or something else, but I keep getting PMs from people in #ubuntu-read-topic with the message of simply: #ubuntu-read-topic17:25
LjLjussi01: people like who?17:25
jussi01LjL: I just had "linux"17:26
jussi01and17:26
jussi01[00:35:13] <yggdrasil> #ubuntu-read-topic17:26
jussi01[00:35:24] <yggdrasil> #ubuntu-read-topic17:26
jussi01[00:00:00]  [Day changed to Sunday March 29 2009]17:26
LjLuhm17:26
jussi01that was yesterday17:26
jussi01I seem to get a fair few...17:26
LjLyggdrasil i think is an "old" exploit victim17:26
LjL(i.e. always get exploited)17:26
Flanneljussi01: You're being haunted by past exploit victims!17:27
LjL"linux" might not even be an actual exploit victim, probably a common nickname17:27
FlannelWooooOOOooooOOOoooooooo17:27
jussi01[21:21:30] <Spike1506> #ubuntu-read-topic17:27
jussi01[00:00:00]  [Day changed to Saturday March 21 2009]17:27
jussi01[00:03:39] <Spike1506> #ubuntu-read-topic17:27
jussi01[00:00:00]  [Day changed to Sunday March 22 2009]17:27
jussi01and there are many more Ive deleted...17:27
LjLi don't think it's happened to me17:27
FlannelNo, that's really strange.17:27
jussi01I asked the lead dev of quassel about it and he said he hasnt a clue, wondered about it also.17:28
LjLjussi01: if you want to find out, you should put a sniffer in between (or an irc proxy)17:29
LjLand look at the actual raw traffic17:29
jussi01hrm17:30
jussi01I wonder if the info is hidden in the core somewhere...17:30
LjLjussi01: i actually don't have anything about yggdrasil for a time of 00:3517:31
LjLnor Spike for 21:21 or 0:0317:32
LjLalthough it might just be my logs being patchy17:32
jussi01LjL: remember they are finnish times... (is italy same?)17:34
LjLjussi01: no, italy is CET, you are EET17:35
LjLjussi01: but anyway i took that into account17:35
jussi01LjL: I just got linux again17:35
jussi01[19:31:22] <linux> #ubuntu-read-topic17:35
jussi01[19:31:45] <linux> #ubuntu-read-topic17:35
LjLjussi01: ok, excuse my ctcps17:36
LjL(which you don't reply to)17:36
jussi01heh17:36
jussi01quassel still needs some work there likely.17:37
LjLjussi01: paste your time please, try to make it accurate (dunno if something like /exec -o date works in quassel)17:37
jussi01LjL: Sun Mar 29 19:34:42 EEST 200917:39
jussi01thats probably 5 seconds off (time to copy/paste from konsole)17:39
LjLjussi01: your time is quite wrong then - or mine is17:39
jussi01and thats the time on the server where the core it17:39
LjLmine should be right17:40
jussi01LjL: mine likely17:40
LjLso, you're off by about 4 minutes, hm17:40
jussi01ok then17:40
LjLjussi01: it seems to be about when he quit - at least the second one17:42
LjLjussi01: tell me if you get anything from me17:42
LjLjussi01: nothing?17:43
jussi01LjL: doesnt look like it currently :/17:43
jussi01LjL: try 1 more time17:44
jussi01LjL: err, without ops? 17:45
LjLjussi01: let me do it from telnet17:45
jussi01kk17:45
jussi01LjL: want to see if an op saying something triggers it...17:47
LjLjussi01: i'll have the bots mark me as a victim17:47
jussi01ahh, yeah, thatll help17:48
jussi01LjL: I got both ljl1 and ljl217:48
jussi01so it seems its when an op says something17:48
jussi01hrm17:48
LjLjussi01: did it do it now?17:49
jussi01no.17:49
LjLjussi01: now?17:49
jussi01no17:49
jussi01curious...17:50
jussi01what about if you part/quit?17:50
jussi01ok, its random as...17:50
jussi01nothing17:50
LjLjussi01: now?17:51
jussi01nope17:52
ikonia@bansearch chronic17:52
ubottuMatch: *!*@c-76-99-15-72.hsd1.pa.comcast.net by ikonia in #kubuntu on Mar 05 2009 11:00:23 (ID: 10624)17:52
ubottuMatch: *!*@c-76-99-15-72.hsd1.pa.comcast.net by ikonia in #ubuntu+1 on Mar 05 2009 10:47:49 (ID: 10621)17:52
ubottuMatch: *!*@c-76-99-15-72.hsd1.pa.comcast.net by LjL in #ubuntu-ops on Mar 28 2009 21:24:51 (ID: 11760)17:52
LjLyes, he's got bans :)17:52
jussi01LjL: 1 sec, gonna try something17:52
ikoniajust checking he hadn't been updated to 17:52
ikoniato #ubuntu too17:52
jussi01LjL: part them now17:52
LjLjussi01: part or quit?17:53
jussi01do one of each17:53
jussi01well who knows... :/ NOTHING!17:54
jussi01LjL: could you try with a different nick perhaps?17:58
jussi01bingo, just happened17:58
jussi01LjL: ^17:59
LjLjussi01: but i still don't know why.17:59
LjLjussi01: i'll ask for a test from ljl2 in a moment, see17:59
jussi01LjL: ok17:59
LjLjussi01: did it. happened?17:59
jussi01[19:55:34] <ljl2> #ubuntu-READ-topic18:00
LjLjussi01: yes, i used weird case on purpose18:00
jussi01[19:55:52] <LjL> jussi01: did it. happened?18:00
jussi01(that last paste was to orientate you timewise)18:00
LjLjussi01: now i'll send a message first with the channel name in lowercase, then in uppercase18:00
LjLjussi01: tell me about each18:01
jussi01LjL: ok18:01
LjLjussi01: lowercase done18:01
jussi01[19:57:09] <ljl2> #ubuntu-read-topic18:01
LjLjussi01: can you tell whether that was when ljl2 sent the message, or when floodbot replied?18:02
jussi01LjL: well floodbots reply is 3 seconds after...18:02
LjLjussi01: yeah, but you have second timestamps18:03
Negativehi, LjL 18:03
LjLhi negative18:03
LjLhold on a second while we're trying to figure out something please18:03
Negativesure.18:03
LjLjussi01: just paste what you got *within* #ubuntu-read-topic timestamps included18:03
jussi01[19:57:12] <FloodBot1> ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how).18:04
LjLjussi01: and you didn't get the "test me" message from ljl2 at all?18:04
jussi01nope18:04
LjLuh18:04
LjLjussi01: ok, one last time18:04
ikonia@mark #ubuntu-se sebsebseb in the channel (another one) after agreeing to keep out for a few days18:05
ubottuError: Not in that channel18:05
ikoniaughh18:05
LjLjussi01: anything this time?18:05
jussi01LjL: exactly same as last time18:05
jussi01[19:57:12] <FloodBot1> ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how).18:05
jussi01[20:01:03] <FloodBot1> ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how).18:05
jussi01[20:01:00] <ljl2> #ubuntu-read-topic18:06
LjLjussi01: ok, let me talk to Negative a minute then we'll try again18:06
jussi01LjL: ok18:06
LjLNegative: what do you want to know about the floodbots?18:06
NegativeLjL: Is there any chance the source could become open?18:07
NegativeLjL: Just interested in seeing it18:07
LjLNegative: there is a chance, yes, but i can't guarantee it will happen18:07
NegativeLjL: Who wrote it?18:08
LjLNegative: currently we've agreed to keep the source private18:08
LjLNegative: i did18:08
NegativeLjL: Which language, out of curiosity?18:08
LjLPHP18:08
NegativeLjL: Ah.18:09
jussi01LjL: I think I know roughly what the issue may be. 18:10
LjLjussi01: i was suspecting +mz18:10
jussi01LjL: me also18:10
LjLNegative: any other questions? if not, i think we have another user in the queue18:11
NegativeLjL: Nothing else, though, let it be open source! :)18:12
NegativeA lot of better things will become of it.18:13
LjLNegative: i personally wish that to happen18:13
NegativeLjL: Where will it be, if it does become open source?18:13
Negative(so I can check!)18:13
LjLNegative: i don't know right now, probably launchpad, google for "launchpad ubuntu-bots"18:14
LjLNegative: you'll probably find a !floodbot factoid pointing to the source when and if it's released18:14
jussi01oh will someone give me access in +1... :/18:15
LjLjussi01: you need to ask yourself :)18:15
jussi01LjL: hehe18:15
NegativeLjL: Thanks so much!18:15
Negativebuh bye.18:15
LjLbye18:15
LjLsebsebseb: ok, so what's the issue18:19
tsimpsonforward from +1 I think18:21
sebsebsebtsimpson: no18:21
tsimpsonok, then what can we do for you?18:22
sebsebsebLjL: I  already told you something in PM, but yeah you insisted to chat here18:23
ikoniasebsebseb: what's up ?18:23
LjLsebsebseb: yes, i pretty much would like issues to be brought forward in here, cross-PM'ing always only complicates matters18:24
sebsebsebikonia: check the public  #ubuntu  IRC logs,  I have kept out like you wanted.   Just like I have all the other offical  English channels.18:25
ikoniasebsebseb: no18:25
ikoniasebsebseb: you tried to join +1 and I didn't see all english channels - I said all ubuntu channels as well you know, we even discussed loco channels specifically18:26
sebsebsebikonia: I think it's a bit stupid to be here early, because  I  wanted a little bit of Swedish practice,  hence joining  those two.  and as I said there I can hardly even talk there anyway18:26
sebsebsebikonia: +1 just now to  check if I was still banned or not18:26
ikoniasebsebseb: the point of following the REQUEST - was to prove you had self control18:27
sebsebsebikonia: and only that18:27
ikoniasebsebseb: you knew you where banned18:27
ikoniaand you tried to join +1 yesterday also 18:27
ikoniaand was forwarded here18:27
ikoniasebsebseb: you are free to go where you want to as I made clear the other day, so if there is anything else you want to discuss ?18:27
sebsebsebikonia: same reason,  and  ok yeah that's stupid to try the channel that I am pretty sure I am banned from.  18:28
ikoniayes it is stupid, and to do it multiple times is even more stupid, and to join #ubuntu based channels when you'd agreed not to for the weekend to show you had self control is also your decision, but in my view silly18:28
ikoniasebsebseb: so if there is nothing else you need please go about your day 18:28
sebsebsebikonia: well accept for +1 at the moment,  anyway  I did what you wanted pretty much, accept...  ,but that's only minor stuff18:29
ikoniano - you did nothing I requested18:29
ikoniasebsebseb: please go about your day 18:29
sebsebsebikonia: sure I did I haven't been in #ubuntu since  that day18:29
ikoniasebsebseb: please don't waste my time- we didn't agree #ubuntu - we agreed all #ubuntu based channels to wipe the slate clean18:30
ikoniasebsebseb: don't play stupid with me, and don't treat me like I'm stupid changing it - if you want I'll try to pull up the logs18:30
ikoniasebsebseb: I suggest you just go about your day 18:30
ikoniasebsebseb: you've not done anything wrong - there is nothing to discuss 18:30
sebsebsebikonia: the logs would show I hadn't been in #ubuntu, but anyway.   one last thing18:31
ikoniaI know you've not been in #ubuntu - no-one said you had18:31
ikoniaI suggest you re-read what I have just said to you18:31
sebsebsebikonia: altough the plan was to ask this tommorow not today.  if  I hadn't already been unbanned, but yeah when do I get access to +1?18:31
ikoniasebsebseb: you don't18:32
ikoniasebsebseb: you've proved you've got no self control - I made it quite clear and made a real effort to help you on Friday - and you've not been able to follow it, so I don't see a reason to remove the ban 18:32
sebsebsebikonia: ok  I'll give you a reason, by being good in #ubuntu18:32
sebsebsebikonia: plus I want to do that anyway18:33
ikoniasebsebseb: that wasn't what we disscussed18:33
ikoniasebsebseb: you're inability to read what I'm saying to you is part of the problem18:33
ikoniasebsebseb: you're not banned from #ubuntu you're free to be as good as you want in it18:33
sebsebsebikonia: ok18:34
ikoniasebsebseb: anything else you need ?18:34
sebsebsebikonia: how did you know what channels I joined?18:35
ikoniathat doesn't matter 18:35
sebsebsebok18:35
sebsebsebikonia: I guess we are done18:36
ikoniayup18:36
LjLwhat's the GNOME charmap called?18:36
LjL(is there one?)18:36
ikoniathuinking18:37
ikoniathinking18:37
sebsebsebcharacter map yeah18:37
sebsebsebthere's something18:37
ikoniasebsebseb: if you don't need anything else please leave the channel 18:37
sebsebsebbuilt in 18:37
sebsebsebok bye18:37
LjLoh i found it18:37
LjLgucharmap18:37
ikonianot what I was thinking18:37
FlannelThat's a bot!18:38
ikonia@mark #ubuntu-ops sebsebseb failing to comply with fresh start request18:38
ubottuThe operation succeeded.18:38
FlannelHmmm18:40
LjLFlannel: yes, it's also on other channels, i'd like to see if they spam there too18:40
FlannelHe's got two other nicks conencted as well.18:40
LjLthey haven't for now, not the ones i've seen anyway18:40
ikoniawho ?18:40
Flanneltxtest, and jpowermacg4 18:40
Flanneln=jpowerma@c-24-98-47-222.hsd1.ga.comcast.net18:40
FlannelLjL: s/b/d/18:41
* jrib gives LjL a mirror18:41
LjLFlannel: eh, i don't see txtest?18:41
FlannelRight, he changed his nick... to AF218:41
LjLFlannel: doesn't show in my /who...18:42
FlannelAF2 is the one I just removed18:42
LjLclient incoming18:42
FlannelAirForceTwo18:42
LjLah right18:43
FlannelAnd, he greets jpowermacg4 (the bot, that is)18:43
Flanneltwo hours and 13 minutes ago18:43
LjLi've seen it before18:43
FlannelThink we ought to forward jpower here, to talk it over with him?18:43
FlannelYeah, that's not unusual.18:44
LjLFlannel: wait a moment before doing that18:44
LjLFlannel: right, i remembered right18:45
LjLFlannel: i told him i would allow his bot, he told us it would be completely silent18:45
FlannelWhat's his bot doing, anyway?18:45
LjLjpowermacg4: hi18:46
LjLjpowermacg4: please join this channel later when you're not idle, we need to talk to you - i'll kick you for now as you seem to be idle18:47
LjLFlannel: i don't know what it's doing, just some sort of statistics i guess, anyway i just thought as long as you're silent and don't publicly log, meh18:48
LjLFlannel: ah right. he had said it's basically an IRC client he's writing18:51
LjLi figured i wouldn't really want to be one to deny using a custom IRC client in #ubuntu18:52
FlannelYes, but an IRC client vs a Bot are two separate things.18:52
LjLFlannel: well, a bot too, as long as it doesn't really do anything... what do i care18:52
LjLin this case, it definitely did something18:52
LjLi'm not sure it was intended though18:53
LjLFlannel: i'm sure you realize that we probably have a *number* of bots in #ubuntu which nobody ever bothered to inform us about :)18:53
FlannelYeah.  But that doesn't mean I like them.18:54
tsimpsonas long as they are quiet, I don't care much :)18:54
FlannelBut, as long as they don't cause trouble, either in or out of the channel, I don't mind18:54
LjLFlannel: yeah indeed, i thought that the mere fact that he DID bother to inform us deserved a little prize, if you want to put it that way :)18:55
LjLmikem grrrrrrr19:59
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !Flannel is a long, hairy guy. His nice, really.20:48
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !Flannel is a long, hairy guy. He's nice, really.20:48
FlannelHow endearing....?20:49
ikoniawhy is there an obession to have a "personal" factoid20:50
FlannelWhy is there an obsession for someone else to have a personal factoid?20:50
NavadeHounban me from #ubuntu & #kubuntu now please, month is over20:58
ikoniaone moement please20:59
NavadeHok20:59
ikoniaNavadeHo: why where you banned21:00
NavadeHoI CTCP'd a bot21:00
ikoniaahh yes21:00
ikoniaa month is not up21:00
ikoniait's only been a week 21:00
NavadeHooh21:00
NavadeHoT_T21:00
NavadeHoit felt like a month :p21:00
ikonianopre21:00
ikonianope21:00
ikoniasee you in 3 weeks21:01
NavadeHok21:01
ikoniaseems a strong ban LjL 21:01
Flannelikonia: Check the BT entry21:07
ikoniafor NavadeHo ?21:14
ikoniaI just saw the ctcp stuff21:14
Flannelikonia: 150 some odd times, etc.21:19
ikoniaoops21:20
ikonia3 months it is then21:20
FlannelAnyone else just get CTCP versioned from sebsebseb?21:20
ikoniahim again21:20
FlannelI really don't care that he did it, as long as he didn't do it to a good deal of people, etc21:21
ikoniahe can't help him self21:21
jussi01HOME!!!! :D21:45
Seeker`hi21:49
jussi01heya Seeker` :)21:52
Seeker`how be?22:02
jussi01tired. going to bed soon. 22:02
Flanneljrib: beat me to it!22:22
UnderTakerYou Can Tell LJL to reinstate that ban on me Thanks Have a Nice Day.22:26
FlannelInteresting.22:26
* jpds wonders what ms2134 was on about in #ubuntu.22:36
ubottuIn #ubuntu, Scunizi said: ubottu says Trash is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash.. however the trash I'm trying to delete isn't located there.. where else do I look?22:43
LjLeh?22:48
LjLi should reinstate the ban because?22:48
LjLgah22:50
FlannelLjL: Which ban what?23:04
LjLFlannel: undertaker, but nevermind, i've seen what he typed in #ubuntu23:04
LjLso that's a ban that's clearly never going to go away23:04
LjL(although he knows very well how to evade anyway)23:04
FlannelOh23:05
LjLi had actually removed his ban only because it was clear to both of us he could evade if he wanted to in the first place23:06
Myrttimmmmmmmm bed23:30

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