[00:45] * genii sips [02:09] Weird. Some guy apparently getting upset at someone thanking the bot [02:11] That is odd. [02:11] anyone know anything about aliases and scripting for irssi? [02:12] Flannel: Maybe te bot gets thanked more than he does [02:12] how to put a random interval into an alias? [02:12] What sort of alias? [02:13] a timed action [02:14] Erm... ok, Alias in what? [02:15] 1238289110 20:11 <+nalioth> anyone know anything about aliases and scripting for irssi? === vorian is now known as heHATEme [02:15] Ah yes. [02:16] Well... [02:16] !enter [02:16] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [02:16] ;) [02:17] nalioth: /wait X [02:17] so, foo;/wait X;bar; [02:18] Flannel: how do you get X to be [random inteval here] [02:20] nalioth: Store [next random interval] in a variable, and then update the variable after you use it? [02:21] Flannel: how do you store a random number? [02:23] maybe you could create a script "#!/bin/bash \n echo $RANDOM" and call that from an alias [02:35] tsimpson: how about if you want a random interval between 60 seconds and 900 seconds ? [02:36] nalioth: I guess with: RAND=$RANDOM; until [ $RAND -ge 60 -a $RAND -le 900 ]; do RAND=$RANDOM; done; echo $RAND [02:37] but it's not pretty [02:37] i'll say. [02:39] or echo $(((RANDOM%590)+10)) [02:40] i'll file those snippets away [02:40] erm, 540)+10 [02:40] erm, 60 [02:40] 2:40am == bad math time [02:41] for when i figure out where to stick 'em :p [02:43] /exec -o echo 'echo $(((RANDOM%540)+60))'|bash [02:43] now that's ugly :) [02:44] but works [02:44] so ugly, i have no idea how it would work [03:41] * genii sips [03:41] * Flannel mips [03:43] * elky flips [03:51] * nalioth zips === essy is now known as SportChick [04:52] Hm [04:52] hmm [04:52] bazhang: I just checked in and saw all the mipping,flipping,zipping, etc [04:52] Hmmm [04:53] genii, hehe [04:53] Must be a slow night ;) [04:53] network hubs? [04:54] ? [04:54] zaccour in #u [04:55] Ah [05:06] genii, are you trying to jinx us? [05:07] elky: Well, some excitement wouldn't hurt ;) [05:08] yes it would, i'm supposed to be cleaning my flat for inspection on thursday [05:10] * genii performs an anti-jinx coffee ritual [05:10] genii: which one's that? [05:10] Flannel: One I just made up to comfort the superstitious [05:11] murphy's law is not superstition [05:11] Ah, I do agree with Murphy, yes [05:12] elky: If you lived in my neighbourhood I'd offer to vacuum your flat or so [05:13] the vacuuming is the easy part [05:13] picking up all the crap i have lying around on the other hand... [05:14] I have usually the same problem [06:10] I am going to be travling for a while.. what command line parameters do i use with wget to download the internet? [06:10] the whole thing ?? [06:10] bazhang: Sure. [06:11] bazhang, tell him he has not the time. google started in 1998 and still does not have everything [06:11] point it at the wayback machine to start :) [07:05] * genii sneaks a coffee [07:05] In #ubuntu-offtopic, MTecknology said: !success is FATAL Error: Operation failed | for -offtopic [07:09] In #ubuntu-offtopic, joetheodd said: ubottu, bsod is You're still using Windows? [08:29] Someone might need to keep an eye on chengcheng in #u [08:30] Sorry, -offtopic [08:45] @bansearch dingding [08:45] Match: *!*@host-static-92-115-23-*.moldtelecom.md by Pici in #ubuntu on Mar 27 2009 13:16:20 (ID: 11693) [08:47] thought dingding was banned in #kubuntu as well [08:49] chengcheng = dingding? [08:51] no; turns out dingding is ban-evading in #kubuntu as well, just that the ban set there is easier to get around [08:51] dingding is cristi, cristi_, crismusg, and several others [09:22] ahh dingding back again for more [09:22] * jussi01 waves to ikonia [09:22] looks like he meant it when he said he'd learnt his lesson, and it was wrong to ban him......he's still ban dodging [09:22] utter tosh [09:23] hey [09:23] ikonia: I've strengthened the ban in #k [09:24] jussi01: didn't see youthere [09:24] tsimpson: so I saw, thank you [10:04] good morning [10:05] hello uk'er [10:06] >____< http://www.last.fm/user/myrtti/shoutbox [10:08] * jussi01 sighs at the backlog in -women... :/ [10:14] bah, should get up and cracking. Need to buy varnish, sandpaper, splenda, light bulbs, brushes, brushcleaner, stapler gun... [10:15] I get to paint \o/ [10:15] oh no [10:15] don't forget to take a pic of you covered in paint [10:15] what colour btw? [10:16] clear varnish probably. and I wont be covered in it, I'm far too trained [10:16] aww, can you come decorate my place please? I always end up the colour of the walls [10:16] my mum is an interiour painter and I've been putting wallpapers and painting walls and ceilings and stuff far too long [10:17] starting at age seven or so [10:17] last time I was a nice magnolia colour, some of the paint was stuck in awkward places! [10:17] O_O I meant ears and stuff! [10:18] Gary: rofl [10:18] Myrtti: what are you painting ? [10:18] ikonia: kitchen dining table and four chairs [10:19] I was surprised that the chairs and tables I thought were the best looking were the cheapest and being unfinished allow me to do finish them myself to any colour I want [10:19] solid pine ♥ [10:20] pink? [10:20] paint em PINK! [10:20] :) [10:20] haha, popey you is so gay [10:20] hello sailor [10:20] "NO" [10:20] came a voice from the bathroom [10:20] eye eye sailor [10:21] you guys crack me up [10:21] Myrtti: how about pastel colours with bunnies and flowers? [10:21] "NO" [10:21] like that terrible wallpaper you linked me to a while ago [10:22] Myrtti: have you actually moved over here ? [10:22] Myrtti: I thought you where only over for a month or so [10:22] um... no [10:22] haven't moved [10:22] ooh, ok [10:22] it's not my decision to make ;-) [10:22] ok [10:22] if I'm invited, I'll consider [10:22] lies, if you agrue enough, you will win [10:23] Gary: I'm not coming with my bags and stuff and just say "I'm moving in" [10:23] Gary: LIES - you argue enough you get punched in the face... [10:23] not the face! not the face! [10:23] jussi01: well thats how it works for me yeah [10:23] it's not my house and I'm not paying the mortgage [10:23] not to gumdrop buttons! [10:23] s/to/the/ [10:24] Myrtti: if you decorate, move in here, keep tomothy company during the week [10:24] if you can scare him enough so he gets a job, i'll be really thankful [10:25] Gary: just tell him youll send him to visit me if he doesnt get a job... :P [10:26] "boo" [10:44] who killed the topic in -offtopic :p [10:45] Gary: I blame you... [10:51] @bansearch Psuedo [10:51] No matches found for psuedo!n=chatzill@unaffiliated/psuedo in any channel [10:57] i dont recall saying that -ot could start idiot season... [11:20] Gary: i'll move in with Gary, as a favour [11:20] err Tomothy [11:37] I think the user Psuedo is Panarchy [11:37] now I'm certain [11:37] I mentioned the name "panarchy" in ##linux and Psuedo joined #freenode to see if I was mentioning it in there [11:39] how he's asking if people can see through cloakes - it's panarchy and he's panicing [11:39] 11:35 < Psuedo> better to have multiple layers of redundancy [11:39] 11:35 < ikonia> your panarchy [11:40] 11:36 -!- Psuedo [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/psuedo] has joined #freenode [11:42] @mark #ubuntu Psuedo looks like panarchy [11:42] The operation succeeded. [11:43] heh [11:44] I'm %80 certain [11:44] same attitude/same questions/same inability to understand a response/installing 5'os on one box/couldn't work grub and then panic'd when I metioned the name panarchy [11:51] i think christel is the one who dealt with panarchy. other staff may not know the relevence [11:51] elky: yeah, just want them to confirm if it's the same ISP / Range / Country [11:51] elky: the nick was only just registered too a few days ago - after he was banned again from otfw [11:52] christel: ping [11:54] and now this is where my logs start confusing me [11:54] ? [11:54] DST :D [11:58] hoppla! [11:59] hello [11:59] christel: could you do me a favour and see if the user Psuedo who just quit has anything in common with the now famous user Panarchy [11:59] christel: I've got a pretty good reason to suspect it's the same guy and that he's kline/ban dodging [12:00] he coonnected from *.mstarmetro.net [12:00] doesn't seem the same guy then [12:00] which doesnt match panarchy [12:00] everything else matched almost perfectly [12:00] having said that, it could be panarchy if he's discovered proxies [12:00] ikonia, idiots are rarely unique ;) [12:01] elky: this was almost word for word [12:01] and he panic'd when I said the name panarchy [12:01] joined freenode and started asking if people could see through cloaks [12:01] his questions where identical to panarchys, he was doing exactly the same thing, having exactly the same problems etc etc [12:01] completely ignore me [12:02] christel: ? [12:02] the host was that of the person who owns the nic [12:02] but the user earlier didnt identify [12:02] oh they did, i just cant misspell psuedo ! [12:02] ha ha ha [12:02] give me 2ticks [12:02] I was just about to say it did [12:03] a new nick too registered 1 day after panarchy was again banned from otfw [12:03] otfw? [12:03] otfc [12:04] ah [12:04] ok that looks more like panarchy [12:04] christel: thought so [12:04] new south wales bigpond.au ip [12:04] christel: do I get a badge ? [12:04] that's panarchy alright [12:05] you do! you get a badge and he gets a new kline! [12:05] ha ha ha [12:06] now if only we could get rid of umakant and the fruity one so easy [12:06] elky: he's klined :) [12:06] heehe what are they up to [12:06] elky: yesteday [12:06] ikonia, umakant is klined? [12:06] i dont get panarchy, for a troll he's bloody weird, but he's definitely not not-a-troll [12:06] elky: as in icebuntu [12:06] christel: he's a moron [12:06] christel: it's that simple [12:07] hehe [12:07] christel: trying to be a "hacker" [12:07] claims he's a paid black hat hacker, yet can't boot an OS [12:07] hahaha [12:07] ikonia, nice. now, fruit salad's turn [12:07] http://alesi.projecthugo.co.uk/kline_truck.jpg [12:07] jump in ! [12:07] (sorry - it's a new thing for me in the UK, still laughing about it) [12:09] ikonia, any sign of the fruity one today? [12:10] hehe [12:10] elky: one at a time please [12:12] negative for apple, negative for orange, negative for lemon [12:12] he'll run out of fruit soon and move to vege's === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [13:28] hi friends [13:32] yes, i know [13:32] he's also in ##australia and various kde chans [13:42] he got his free k-ticket [13:57] ikonia, still around? [13:58] yes [13:58] just come back funny enough [13:59] ikonia, you have contacts on #oftc, yes? fujisan has creepied his way over to there and is now haunting hobbsee and i [13:59] I have no contacts at all on there [13:59] I'm just a pleb user [13:59] he noticed when i joined #oftc and suddenly joined it and proclaimed it his new freenode [14:00] elky what's he logged in as ? [14:00] fujiosan [14:00] I see him [14:01] i mean, i'm one of 4 people in #debian-au there, and suddenly he joins. creepy as [14:01] just stupid [14:01] nobody in camlug is intrested about a sunday meetup :-( [14:01] I suppose talking to one of the ops is pointless ? [14:01] sitting at cb2 with mah n800, tumbleweed n crickets [14:01] oh dear [14:01] horrring [14:01] Myrtti: you're welcome to the BBLUG next weekend [14:02] ikonia, i asked in #oftc for stalker protections, but the on-duty are useless [14:02] ughh [14:02] is that channel on freenode? #oftc [14:02] nah [14:02] it's on oftc [14:02] aha [14:02] I just joined an empty channel :) [14:03] ikonia: planning to take a day off for london release party ;-) [14:03] ah well [14:13] partypartyparty! [14:14] ughhh I've just had to fire my wordpress developer [14:15] the guy is 3 months late and still not getting anywhere - gutted [14:19] developing what? [14:20] wordpress theme [14:20] nothing more [14:20] just hunting for a new guy now [14:21] wordpress themes are stupid simple [14:21] you need a design first [14:21] that is true [14:22] the guy did an good mockup, then struggled to make that mockup a functioning design, made some compromises then struggled to make it work as a theme [14:22] had to knock it on the head and I'll have to find someone new, [14:23] for a blog? [14:23] bit more than a blog, but yeah [14:23] wow you must be uber-rich :) [14:24] ??????? [14:25] hiring someone to do a proffesional design for a project? [14:25] I get all my wordpress themes from wordpress.com stock :( [14:25] yeah, this needs to be a new unique one [14:25] aha [14:25] I get all mine from there too === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [15:43] ikonia: the oxygen designer is looking for work... perhaps he could do something for you? (has artistic ability, not sure about wordpress stuff...) [15:51] !forget nvidia-beta [15:51] I'll forget that, jussi01 [16:13] client incoming [16:13] hi [16:13] shadeslayer: nothing against me pasting our query for the others here to catch up? [16:13] no problem [16:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/140155/ [16:14] please check this if you know a bit about the history here [16:14] and/or if you're in the mood to match hostmasks [16:15] LjL: im sorry,what do you mean [16:16] allow me to interject [16:16] shadeslayer: your telling lies [16:16] ok [16:17] shadeslayer: you admited to me you where rohan and you where sorry for telling lies about being him [16:17] you did it beacause you where curious [16:17] do you remember that conversation [16:17] ikonia: no,i told you and LjL that i was rohan for the first 15 days of jan [16:17] shadeslayer: i was talking to the other ops [16:17] no - you where before that [16:17] LjL: ahh sorry [16:17] ikonia: ? [16:18] and maddy also you where maddy [16:18] ikonia: i was responding to the "what do you mean" [16:18] LjL: oh [16:18] thought I was treading on your toes [16:19] hi Nuken [16:19] ok so the basic thing is im shadeslayer from 15 jan,thats it [16:19] no [16:19] thats not the basic [16:19] hi LjL [16:19] you have been rhoan from before that - and admited it, you have been ugreat and admited it, you have been maddy and admited it [16:19] and i was rohan till 15th jan [16:19] ikonia: i did admit [16:19] ok - so you're keeping up with that lie, I won't discuss it futher [16:19] but not for rohan [16:20] shadeslayer... [16:20] you had the ident "rohan" [16:20] ikonia: what lie,i accept all the facts, i was urgreat,imgreat and maddy [16:20] as the "other" rohan [16:20] you were from the *same subnet* [16:20] how can we seriously believe you? [16:20] LjL: subnet?? [16:20] shadeslayer: same pool of addresses. [16:21] LjL: well i told you that i and he live in the same country and same region [16:21] right [16:21] but what are the chances [16:21] i dont knoe [16:21] none after he admited it was him to me [16:21] that two people with the same first name, from the same subnet, join the same channels on the same irc network? [16:21] *know [16:22] a lake MAY freeze in the summer [16:22] LjL: u can as in #freenode who rohan is registered to [16:22] but if we based what we do on that possibility, we'd never do anything [16:22] shadeslayer: freenode staff will not tell me what a cloak's IP address is [16:22] LjL: in all totality,i was not rohan from 15th jan [16:23] you admited to being rhoan before that to me [16:23] when I caught you being maddy [16:23] and you explained you wanted to test what happened if you ban dodged [16:23] ikonia: i was admitting to bein rohan *before* 15th jan [16:23] shadeslayer: do you want me to ask freenode staff to confirm or deny the possibility that you two are the same? [16:23] yes you can ask [16:23] shadeslayer: I caught you changing nicks from rohan to maddy [16:24] after Jan [16:24] may i join freenode to check too [16:24] !staff | please, can you check for shadeslayer (on his request) whether the "rohan" account and the "shadeslayer" account may correspond to the same user? [16:24] please, can you check for shadeslayer (on his request) whether the "rohan" account and the "shadeslayer" account may correspond to the same user?: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could use a bit of your time :) [16:24] I verfied this with your client ID to - when I versioned you [16:24] ikonia: rohan was registered,so i had to change nicks [16:24] ok - I'm out of this conversation as you are now telling lies [16:24] ikonia: i had just reinstalled quassel,the default nick was rohan [16:25] the default nick is not rohan [16:25] ikonia: no im not telling lies [16:25] let's wait a moment for a response from staff, shall we? [16:25] ok [16:25] yes lets [16:25] doesnt appear to be registered to the same person (different ips, different email) [16:25] see [16:25] thank you christel [16:25] er, okay [16:26] be right back, phone [16:26] ikonia: will that satisfy you? [16:26] no [16:26] I didn't say you where registerd as rhoan [16:26] I said you where using the nick [16:26] ikonia: please tell me,what will [16:26] which you admited to me [16:26] I caught you chaging nick from shadeslayer to maddy, and rhoan to maddy123 [16:26] ikonia: as i said the nick was registered,had to change nicks [16:26] that was after Jan [16:27] uhm, i need to leave home for a minute [16:27] as you can see you can use a nick that is not registered [16:27] that is registered sorry [16:27] hi - I'm using a registered nick [16:28] ikonia: let me tell you,i changed from shadeslayer to rohan(registred),Nickserv tells me to identify,i cant,so i change nicks to maddy [16:28] ikonia: did nickserv tell you to identify?? [16:29] I am using a registered nick [16:29] yes,did nickserv say anything === rohan is now known as maddy123 [16:29] I have changed nicks [16:29] exactly the same as you did [16:29] yes, nickserv warned me it was registered, but I ignored it, same way you did [16:30] no,i changed nicks,i always do [16:30] "ok" [16:30] i thought that it had a 30 sec limit [16:31] it does, but only if the account owner has set enforce on :) [16:31] this is a pointless conversation as I caught you doing it and spoke to you about it - and you admited it [16:31] i didnt know that,i thought it had a 30 sec limit,i changed nicks in what 10 sec [16:31] and that was after jan [16:32] ikonia: yes,i know,you caught me,i was changing nicks as nickserv told me [16:32] from rohan to maddy [16:32] and that was after january [16:32] unfourtunately you came at the precise moment when i was changing nicks [16:33] well, enough of this [16:33] yes,because Chanserv told me [16:33] when you are prepared to tell the truth [16:33] I'll chat more about it [16:33] ikonia: i am telling it [16:34] when i say lies you say i lie,when i say the truth you rebuke me for lying again [16:34] that is the price of being a known liar [16:34] and as I said I CAUGHT you changing nicks from rohan AFTER january so I know your telling me lies [16:35] i am admitting that i changed nicks,*but* just because chanserv told me [16:35] *nickserv [16:35] but you said you didn't use rohan after January - so explain that? [16:36] so when did i actually *use* rohan?? [16:36] you've used it many times [16:36] i was changing nicks thats all [16:36] no [16:36] ahh this is going no-where [16:36] this is the price of being a known and admited lair [16:36] it's impossible to believe anything you say without proof [16:37] liar [16:37] havent i repaid it yet?? [16:37] ive been out of here for the past 2 weeks [16:37] *1 [16:37] you where a pain for months [16:38] and you've only been out BECAUSE you where banned [16:38] after months of ban dodging [16:38] not from #kubuntu [16:38] no, you're in there because you're not banned ? [16:38] months??? shouldnt that be days?? [16:38] ikonia: was not there for a whole week [16:38] because you where banned [16:39] no,i wasnt banned from kubuntu [16:39] oh you mean you've not been in #kubuntu fora week ? [16:39] no [16:39] what do you mean then ? [16:39] yes,i mean ive not been in #kubuntu for a week [16:39] yes you have [16:40] you've been in on a regular basis since being banned [16:40] i was told to " keep out " from any *buntu channel [16:40] yet you've been in on a regular basis [16:40] no [16:40] you're in there now ! [16:40] not for the past week [16:41] yes,after i got a snag [16:41] look this is going nowhere I won't be lifting my bans because you are a proven liar and you have done nothing to prove otherwise to me [16:41] ikonia: im talking about the past week [16:41] ikonia: im not asking to lift the ban [16:41] oh, ok - then what do you want [16:41] ikonia: im here to talk about how much more time ill have to stay out [16:42] and about my behaiour [16:42] until people have confidence that you're not an issue or a liar any more [16:42] when will that be? [16:42] when you can prove to people you're not telling lies and you're not an issue in the channel [16:43] how do i do that.without being let in [16:43] the way you act when you talk to us in here [16:43] how do i act then [16:44] i say the truth,you brand me a liar [16:44] however you want, I have no confidence you're telling the truth based on what I've seen [16:44] if others beleive you then they maybe more willing to listen to you [16:45] ok,ill wait for LjL [16:45] shadeslayer: come back later then and speak to LJL see if he feels differently [16:46] ikonia: are you sure you wont influence him behind my back?? [16:46] he is strong enough to make up his own mind [16:46] ok [16:46] oh and for the record do you also admit to being sh4d3sl4y3r! [16:46] bye them [16:46] *then [16:46] ikonia: absolutely not [16:47] ok [16:48] @mark #ubuntu-ops shadeslayer request to be unbanned [16:48] The operation succeeded. [16:55] ok for the record, the ban might even be removed for all that i'm concerned [16:55] if he just behaves in the future, then meh [16:56] your call [16:56] I'm not lifting mine without a good reason, more so as he's just lied in here [16:58] (i've been called down by a friend who went to a fair and gave me as a present... a deck of "binary cards" :o) [16:58] ughhh [16:58] geek gift [16:59] well, he's not a nerd, but he is convinced i am one... [16:59] ... for some reason ... [16:59] ... the reason possibly being that i am ... [16:59] busted [17:01] ikonia: i did tell him the whole story about the Grundy function and nim-sum in games theory as a punishment [17:01] so a good reason to think you are a nerd [17:02] Nuken: did you want to ask us anything? [17:02] @bansearch Guest_509 [17:02] No matches found for guest_509!n=guest@host86-128-75-8.range86-128.btcentralplus.com in any channel [17:05] ikonia: he joined -read-topic, but his current nick isn't an exploit victim's [17:05] odd [17:06] ikonia: i'm asking him about it. freenode servers lately have had bad desync [17:06] i might just not be seeing the ban from my server [17:07] LjL, you there?? [17:07] shadeslayer_, yes === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [17:07] LjL, do you trust me? [17:08] that i speak the truth,and not lie ? [17:08] shadeslayer: it's hard to say. as i said all evidence points to you being rohan [17:08] shadeslayer: besides, even if you are not, you've been banned several times as shadeslayer [17:09] LjL, i am rohan,i real life,the nick rohan belongs to someone else as freenode pointed out [17:09] LjL, i promise to behave [17:09] shadeslayer: yes, i meant to say there's evidence you are the "other" rohan [17:09] oh....ok [17:10] LjL, so now,i ask,will you unban me? [17:10] somebody here use XenServer? [17:11] i promised that i wont join any *buntu channel for a week,i kept my promise [17:11] Nuken: This isn't a support channel, you should try #ubuntu [17:11] oh sorry [17:11] i use slackware [17:12] thanks [17:12] shadeslayer: i'll remove the ban that was set by me - if you have any other bans, i won't remove those [17:12] ok [17:12] shadeslayer: please consider this temporary, though [17:12] LjL, sure [17:12] LjL, i know the ops will always be watching [17:12] shadeslayer: i reserve to investigate some more to look for other evidence on whether you are or are not the "other" rohan [17:13] shadeslayer: yes, that, but also the fact i want to check better [17:13] shadeslayer: but on that topic too, i'm sure you realize we'll be watching you very attentively, so one more instance of misbehavior, and you're gone [17:13] LjL, i will keep that in mind [17:13] LjL, can you tell me if i have other bans as well? [17:14] shadeslayer: i guess the easiest way is to try joining [17:14] LjL, so ban removed? [17:14] yes [17:14] thanks,i can join [17:15] thanks to all the ops for believing in me [17:17] Guest_509 is getting redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic [17:17] he's connected to Verne [17:17] i can't see a ban on him, either from my server or Verne [17:17] anyone has better eyes than me? [17:18] worked now.. [17:18] wait, you are in #ubuntu now [17:18] I couldn't see anything earlier [17:18] he was in #ubuntu before though as guest and xnxnxn or something similar [17:18] he wasn't banned he kept leaving on his own [17:18] Guest_509: what were you typing to join? [17:18] /join #ubuntu [17:19] but 2nd time i join it make me in #ubuntu-read-topic [17:19] * LjL scratches his head [17:20] ikonia: the other nicks he had don't look banned, either [17:21] Guest_509: ok look, if this happens again, please join here and ask us about it [17:21] ok, thk you [17:22] @mark #ubuntu-ops Guest_509 Apparently getting redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic without a ban in place that I could find, told him to come back if the problem happens again [17:22] The operation succeeded. [17:23] @mark #ubuntu-ops shadeslayer Unbanned with (strong) reserve, see also http://paste.ubuntu.com/140155/ - Please ban again on any instance of even slight bad behavior [17:23] The operation succeeded. [17:25] ok, this is curious. I wonder if its my client or something else, but I keep getting PMs from people in #ubuntu-read-topic with the message of simply: #ubuntu-read-topic [17:25] jussi01: people like who? [17:26] LjL: I just had "linux" [17:26] and [17:26] [00:35:13] #ubuntu-read-topic [17:26] [00:35:24] #ubuntu-read-topic [17:26] [00:00:00] [Day changed to Sunday March 29 2009] [17:26] uhm [17:26] that was yesterday [17:26] I seem to get a fair few... [17:26] yggdrasil i think is an "old" exploit victim [17:26] (i.e. always get exploited) [17:27] jussi01: You're being haunted by past exploit victims! [17:27] "linux" might not even be an actual exploit victim, probably a common nickname [17:27] WooooOOOooooOOOoooooooo [17:27] [21:21:30] #ubuntu-read-topic [17:27] [00:00:00] [Day changed to Saturday March 21 2009] [17:27] [00:03:39] #ubuntu-read-topic [17:27] [00:00:00] [Day changed to Sunday March 22 2009] [17:27] and there are many more Ive deleted... [17:27] i don't think it's happened to me [17:27] No, that's really strange. [17:28] I asked the lead dev of quassel about it and he said he hasnt a clue, wondered about it also. [17:29] jussi01: if you want to find out, you should put a sniffer in between (or an irc proxy) [17:29] and look at the actual raw traffic [17:30] hrm [17:30] I wonder if the info is hidden in the core somewhere... [17:31] jussi01: i actually don't have anything about yggdrasil for a time of 00:35 [17:32] nor Spike for 21:21 or 0:03 [17:32] although it might just be my logs being patchy [17:34] LjL: remember they are finnish times... (is italy same?) [17:35] jussi01: no, italy is CET, you are EET [17:35] jussi01: but anyway i took that into account [17:35] LjL: I just got linux again [17:35] [19:31:22] #ubuntu-read-topic [17:35] [19:31:45] #ubuntu-read-topic [17:36] jussi01: ok, excuse my ctcps [17:36] (which you don't reply to) [17:36] heh [17:37] quassel still needs some work there likely. [17:37] jussi01: paste your time please, try to make it accurate (dunno if something like /exec -o date works in quassel) [17:39] LjL: Sun Mar 29 19:34:42 EEST 2009 [17:39] thats probably 5 seconds off (time to copy/paste from konsole) [17:39] jussi01: your time is quite wrong then - or mine is [17:39] and thats the time on the server where the core it [17:40] mine should be right [17:40] LjL: mine likely [17:40] so, you're off by about 4 minutes, hm [17:40] ok then [17:42] jussi01: it seems to be about when he quit - at least the second one [17:42] jussi01: tell me if you get anything from me [17:43] jussi01: nothing? [17:43] LjL: doesnt look like it currently :/ [17:44] LjL: try 1 more time [17:45] LjL: err, without ops? [17:45] jussi01: let me do it from telnet [17:45] kk [17:47] LjL: want to see if an op saying something triggers it... [17:47] jussi01: i'll have the bots mark me as a victim [17:48] ahh, yeah, thatll help [17:48] LjL: I got both ljl1 and ljl2 [17:48] so it seems its when an op says something [17:48] hrm [17:49] jussi01: did it do it now? [17:49] no. [17:49] jussi01: now? [17:49] no [17:50] curious... [17:50] what about if you part/quit? [17:50] ok, its random as... [17:50] nothing [17:51] jussi01: now? [17:52] nope [17:52] @bansearch chronic [17:52] Match: *!*@c-76-99-15-72.hsd1.pa.comcast.net by ikonia in #kubuntu on Mar 05 2009 11:00:23 (ID: 10624) [17:52] Match: *!*@c-76-99-15-72.hsd1.pa.comcast.net by ikonia in #ubuntu+1 on Mar 05 2009 10:47:49 (ID: 10621) [17:52] Match: *!*@c-76-99-15-72.hsd1.pa.comcast.net by LjL in #ubuntu-ops on Mar 28 2009 21:24:51 (ID: 11760) [17:52] yes, he's got bans :) [17:52] LjL: 1 sec, gonna try something [17:52] just checking he hadn't been updated to [17:52] to #ubuntu too [17:52] LjL: part them now [17:53] jussi01: part or quit? [17:53] do one of each [17:54] well who knows... :/ NOTHING! [17:58] LjL: could you try with a different nick perhaps? [17:58] bingo, just happened [17:59] LjL: ^ [17:59] jussi01: but i still don't know why. [17:59] jussi01: i'll ask for a test from ljl2 in a moment, see [17:59] LjL: ok [17:59] jussi01: did it. happened? [18:00] [19:55:34] #ubuntu-READ-topic [18:00] jussi01: yes, i used weird case on purpose [18:00] [19:55:52] jussi01: did it. happened? [18:00] (that last paste was to orientate you timewise) [18:00] jussi01: now i'll send a message first with the channel name in lowercase, then in uppercase [18:01] jussi01: tell me about each [18:01] LjL: ok [18:01] jussi01: lowercase done [18:01] [19:57:09] #ubuntu-read-topic [18:02] jussi01: can you tell whether that was when ljl2 sent the message, or when floodbot replied? [18:02] LjL: well floodbots reply is 3 seconds after... [18:03] jussi01: yeah, but you have second timestamps [18:03] hi, LjL [18:03] hi negative [18:03] hold on a second while we're trying to figure out something please [18:03] sure. [18:03] jussi01: just paste what you got *within* #ubuntu-read-topic timestamps included [18:04] [19:57:12] ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how). [18:04] jussi01: and you didn't get the "test me" message from ljl2 at all? [18:04] nope [18:04] uh [18:04] jussi01: ok, one last time [18:05] @mark #ubuntu-se sebsebseb in the channel (another one) after agreeing to keep out for a few days [18:05] Error: Not in that channel [18:05] ughh [18:05] jussi01: anything this time? [18:05] LjL: exactly same as last time [18:05] [19:57:12] ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how). [18:05] [20:01:03] ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how). [18:06] [20:01:00] #ubuntu-read-topic [18:06] jussi01: ok, let me talk to Negative a minute then we'll try again [18:06] LjL: ok [18:06] Negative: what do you want to know about the floodbots? [18:07] LjL: Is there any chance the source could become open? [18:07] LjL: Just interested in seeing it [18:07] Negative: there is a chance, yes, but i can't guarantee it will happen [18:08] LjL: Who wrote it? [18:08] Negative: currently we've agreed to keep the source private [18:08] Negative: i did [18:08] LjL: Which language, out of curiosity? [18:08] PHP [18:09] LjL: Ah. [18:10] LjL: I think I know roughly what the issue may be. [18:10] jussi01: i was suspecting +mz [18:10] LjL: me also [18:11] Negative: any other questions? if not, i think we have another user in the queue [18:12] LjL: Nothing else, though, let it be open source! :) [18:13] A lot of better things will become of it. [18:13] Negative: i personally wish that to happen [18:13] LjL: Where will it be, if it does become open source? [18:13] (so I can check!) [18:14] Negative: i don't know right now, probably launchpad, google for "launchpad ubuntu-bots" [18:14] Negative: you'll probably find a !floodbot factoid pointing to the source when and if it's released [18:15] oh will someone give me access in +1... :/ [18:15] jussi01: you need to ask yourself :) [18:15] LjL: hehe [18:15] LjL: Thanks so much! [18:15] buh bye. [18:15] bye [18:19] sebsebseb: ok, so what's the issue [18:21] forward from +1 I think [18:21] tsimpson: no [18:22] ok, then what can we do for you? [18:23] LjL: I already told you something in PM, but yeah you insisted to chat here [18:23] sebsebseb: what's up ? [18:24] sebsebseb: yes, i pretty much would like issues to be brought forward in here, cross-PM'ing always only complicates matters [18:25] ikonia: check the public #ubuntu IRC logs, I have kept out like you wanted. Just like I have all the other offical English channels. [18:25] sebsebseb: no [18:26] sebsebseb: you tried to join +1 and I didn't see all english channels - I said all ubuntu channels as well you know, we even discussed loco channels specifically [18:26] ikonia: I think it's a bit stupid to be here early, because I wanted a little bit of Swedish practice, hence joining those two. and as I said there I can hardly even talk there anyway [18:26] ikonia: +1 just now to check if I was still banned or not [18:27] sebsebseb: the point of following the REQUEST - was to prove you had self control [18:27] ikonia: and only that [18:27] sebsebseb: you knew you where banned [18:27] and you tried to join +1 yesterday also [18:27] and was forwarded here [18:27] sebsebseb: you are free to go where you want to as I made clear the other day, so if there is anything else you want to discuss ? [18:28] ikonia: same reason, and ok yeah that's stupid to try the channel that I am pretty sure I am banned from. [18:28] yes it is stupid, and to do it multiple times is even more stupid, and to join #ubuntu based channels when you'd agreed not to for the weekend to show you had self control is also your decision, but in my view silly [18:28] sebsebseb: so if there is nothing else you need please go about your day [18:29] ikonia: well accept for +1 at the moment, anyway I did what you wanted pretty much, accept... ,but that's only minor stuff [18:29] no - you did nothing I requested [18:29] sebsebseb: please go about your day [18:29] ikonia: sure I did I haven't been in #ubuntu since that day [18:30] sebsebseb: please don't waste my time- we didn't agree #ubuntu - we agreed all #ubuntu based channels to wipe the slate clean [18:30] sebsebseb: don't play stupid with me, and don't treat me like I'm stupid changing it - if you want I'll try to pull up the logs [18:30] sebsebseb: I suggest you just go about your day [18:30] sebsebseb: you've not done anything wrong - there is nothing to discuss [18:31] ikonia: the logs would show I hadn't been in #ubuntu, but anyway. one last thing [18:31] I know you've not been in #ubuntu - no-one said you had [18:31] I suggest you re-read what I have just said to you [18:31] ikonia: altough the plan was to ask this tommorow not today. if I hadn't already been unbanned, but yeah when do I get access to +1? [18:32] sebsebseb: you don't [18:32] sebsebseb: you've proved you've got no self control - I made it quite clear and made a real effort to help you on Friday - and you've not been able to follow it, so I don't see a reason to remove the ban [18:32] ikonia: ok I'll give you a reason, by being good in #ubuntu [18:33] ikonia: plus I want to do that anyway [18:33] sebsebseb: that wasn't what we disscussed [18:33] sebsebseb: you're inability to read what I'm saying to you is part of the problem [18:33] sebsebseb: you're not banned from #ubuntu you're free to be as good as you want in it [18:34] ikonia: ok [18:34] sebsebseb: anything else you need ? [18:35] ikonia: how did you know what channels I joined? [18:35] that doesn't matter [18:35] ok [18:36] ikonia: I guess we are done [18:36] yup [18:36] what's the GNOME charmap called? [18:36] (is there one?) [18:37] thuinking [18:37] thinking [18:37] character map yeah [18:37] there's something [18:37] sebsebseb: if you don't need anything else please leave the channel [18:37] built in [18:37] ok bye [18:37] oh i found it [18:37] gucharmap [18:37] not what I was thinking [18:38] That's a bot! [18:38] @mark #ubuntu-ops sebsebseb failing to comply with fresh start request [18:38] The operation succeeded. [18:40] Hmmm [18:40] Flannel: yes, it's also on other channels, i'd like to see if they spam there too [18:40] He's got two other nicks conencted as well. [18:40] they haven't for now, not the ones i've seen anyway [18:40] who ? [18:40] txtest, and jpowermacg4 [18:40] n=jpowerma@c-24-98-47-222.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [18:41] LjL: s/b/d/ [18:41] * jrib gives LjL a mirror [18:41] Flannel: eh, i don't see txtest? [18:41] Right, he changed his nick... to AF2 [18:42] Flannel: doesn't show in my /who... [18:42] AF2 is the one I just removed [18:42] client incoming [18:42] AirForceTwo [18:43] ah right [18:43] And, he greets jpowermacg4 (the bot, that is) [18:43] two hours and 13 minutes ago [18:43] i've seen it before [18:43] Think we ought to forward jpower here, to talk it over with him? [18:44] Yeah, that's not unusual. [18:44] Flannel: wait a moment before doing that [18:45] Flannel: right, i remembered right [18:45] Flannel: i told him i would allow his bot, he told us it would be completely silent [18:45] What's his bot doing, anyway? [18:46] jpowermacg4: hi [18:47] jpowermacg4: please join this channel later when you're not idle, we need to talk to you - i'll kick you for now as you seem to be idle [18:48] Flannel: i don't know what it's doing, just some sort of statistics i guess, anyway i just thought as long as you're silent and don't publicly log, meh [18:51] Flannel: ah right. he had said it's basically an IRC client he's writing [18:52] i figured i wouldn't really want to be one to deny using a custom IRC client in #ubuntu [18:52] Yes, but an IRC client vs a Bot are two separate things. [18:52] Flannel: well, a bot too, as long as it doesn't really do anything... what do i care [18:52] in this case, it definitely did something [18:53] i'm not sure it was intended though [18:53] Flannel: i'm sure you realize that we probably have a *number* of bots in #ubuntu which nobody ever bothered to inform us about :) [18:54] Yeah. But that doesn't mean I like them. [18:54] as long as they are quiet, I don't care much :) [18:54] But, as long as they don't cause trouble, either in or out of the channel, I don't mind [18:55] Flannel: yeah indeed, i thought that the mere fact that he DID bother to inform us deserved a little prize, if you want to put it that way :) [19:59] mikem grrrrrrr [20:48] In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !Flannel is a long, hairy guy. His nice, really. [20:48] In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !Flannel is a long, hairy guy. He's nice, really. [20:49] How endearing....? [20:50] why is there an obession to have a "personal" factoid [20:50] Why is there an obsession for someone else to have a personal factoid? [20:58] unban me from #ubuntu & #kubuntu now please, month is over [20:59] one moement please [20:59] k [21:00] NavadeHo: why where you banned [21:00] I CTCP'd a bot [21:00] ahh yes [21:00] a month is not up [21:00] it's only been a week [21:00] oh [21:00] T_T [21:00] it felt like a month :p [21:00] nopre [21:00] nope [21:01] see you in 3 weeks [21:01] k [21:01] seems a strong ban LjL [21:07] ikonia: Check the BT entry [21:14] for NavadeHo ? [21:14] I just saw the ctcp stuff [21:19] ikonia: 150 some odd times, etc. [21:20] oops [21:20] 3 months it is then [21:20] Anyone else just get CTCP versioned from sebsebseb? [21:20] him again [21:21] I really don't care that he did it, as long as he didn't do it to a good deal of people, etc [21:21] he can't help him self [21:45] HOME!!!! :D [21:49] hi [21:52] heya Seeker` :) [22:02] how be? [22:02] tired. going to bed soon. [22:22] jrib: beat me to it! [22:26] You Can Tell LJL to reinstate that ban on me Thanks Have a Nice Day. [22:26] Interesting. [22:36] * jpds wonders what ms2134 was on about in #ubuntu. [22:43] In #ubuntu, Scunizi said: ubottu says Trash is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash.. however the trash I'm trying to delete isn't located there.. where else do I look? [22:48] eh? [22:48] i should reinstate the ban because? [22:50] gah [23:04] LjL: Which ban what? [23:04] Flannel: undertaker, but nevermind, i've seen what he typed in #ubuntu [23:04] so that's a ban that's clearly never going to go away [23:04] (although he knows very well how to evade anyway) [23:05] Oh [23:06] i had actually removed his ban only because it was clear to both of us he could evade if he wanted to in the first place [23:30] mmmmmmmm bed