[00:45]  * genii sips
[02:09] <genii> Weird. Some guy apparently getting upset at someone thanking the bot
[02:11] <Flannel> That is odd.
[02:11] <nalioth> anyone know anything about aliases and scripting for irssi?
[02:12] <genii> Flannel: Maybe te bot gets thanked more than he does
[02:12] <nalioth> how to put a random interval into an alias?
[02:12] <Flannel> What sort of alias?
[02:13] <nalioth> a timed action
[02:14] <Flannel> Erm... ok, Alias in what?
[02:15] <nalioth> 1238289110 20:11 <+nalioth> anyone know anything about aliases and scripting for irssi?
[02:15] <Flannel> Ah yes.
[02:16] <Flannel> Well...
[02:16] <Flannel> !enter
[02:16] <Flannel> ;)
[02:17] <Flannel> nalioth: /wait X
[02:17] <Flannel> so, foo;/wait X;bar;
[02:18] <nalioth> Flannel: how do you get X to be [random inteval here]
[02:20] <Flannel> nalioth: Store [next random interval] in a variable, and then update the variable after you use it?
[02:21] <nalioth> Flannel: how do you store a random number?
[02:23] <tsimpson> maybe you could create a script "#!/bin/bash \n echo $RANDOM" and call that from an alias
[02:35] <nalioth> tsimpson: how about if you want a random interval between 60 seconds and 900 seconds ?
[02:36] <tsimpson> nalioth: I guess with: RAND=$RANDOM; until [ $RAND -ge 60 -a $RAND -le 900 ]; do RAND=$RANDOM; done; echo $RAND
[02:37] <tsimpson> but it's not pretty
[02:37] <nalioth> i'll say.
[02:39] <tsimpson> or echo $(((RANDOM%590)+10))
[02:40] <nalioth> i'll file those snippets away
[02:40] <tsimpson> erm, 540)+10
[02:40] <tsimpson> erm, 60
[02:40] <tsimpson> 2:40am == bad math time
[02:41] <nalioth> for when i figure out where to stick 'em :p
[02:43] <tsimpson> /exec -o echo 'echo $(((RANDOM%540)+60))'|bash
[02:43] <tsimpson> now that's ugly :)
[02:44] <tsimpson> but works
[02:44] <nalioth> so ugly, i have no idea how it would work
[03:41]  * genii sips
[03:41]  * Flannel mips
[03:43]  * elky flips
[03:51]  * nalioth zips
[04:52] <genii> Hm
[04:52] <bazhang> hmm
[04:52] <genii> bazhang: I just checked in and saw all the mipping,flipping,zipping, etc
[04:52] <Flannel> Hmmm
[04:53] <bazhang> genii, hehe
[04:53] <genii> Must be a slow night ;)
[04:53] <bazhang> network hubs?
[04:54] <genii> ?
[04:54] <bazhang> zaccour in #u
[04:55] <genii> Ah
[05:06] <elky> genii, are you trying to jinx us?
[05:07] <genii> elky: Well, some excitement wouldn't hurt ;)
[05:08] <elky> yes it would, i'm supposed to be cleaning my flat for inspection on thursday
[05:10]  * genii performs an anti-jinx coffee ritual
[05:10] <Flannel> genii: which one's that?
[05:10] <genii> Flannel: One I just made up to comfort the superstitious
[05:11] <elky> murphy's law is not superstition
[05:11] <genii> Ah, I do agree with Murphy, yes
[05:12] <genii> elky: If you lived in my neighbourhood I'd offer to vacuum your flat or so
[05:13] <elky> the vacuuming is the easy part
[05:13] <elky> picking up all the crap i have lying around on the other hand...
[05:14] <genii> I have usually the same problem
 I am going to be travling for a while.. what command line parameters do i use with wget to download the internet?
[06:10] <bazhang> the whole thing ??
[06:10] <Flannel> bazhang: Sure.
[06:11] <elky> bazhang, tell him he has not the time. google started in 1998 and still does not have everything
[06:11] <bazhang> point it at the wayback machine to start :)
[07:05]  * genii sneaks a coffee
[08:29] <genii> Someone might need to keep an eye on chengcheng in #u
[08:30] <genii> Sorry, -offtopic   
[08:45] <bazhang> @bansearch dingding
[08:47] <bazhang> thought dingding was banned in #kubuntu as well
[08:49] <elky> chengcheng = dingding?
[08:51] <bazhang> no; turns out dingding is ban-evading in #kubuntu as well, just that the ban set there is easier to get around
[08:51] <bazhang> dingding is cristi, cristi_, crismusg, and several others
[09:22] <ikonia> ahh dingding back again for more
[09:22]  * jussi01 waves to ikonia
[09:22] <ikonia> looks like he meant it when he said he'd learnt his lesson, and it was wrong to ban him......he's still ban dodging
[09:22] <ikonia> utter tosh
[09:23] <ikonia> hey
[09:23] <tsimpson> ikonia: I've strengthened the ban in #k
[09:24] <ikonia> jussi01: didn't see youthere
[09:24] <ikonia> tsimpson: so I saw, thank you
[10:04] <Myrtti> good morning
[10:05] <ikonia> hello uk'er
[10:06] <Myrtti> >____< http://www.last.fm/user/myrtti/shoutbox
[10:08]  * jussi01 sighs at the backlog in -women... :/
[10:14] <Myrtti> bah, should get up and cracking. Need to buy varnish, sandpaper, splenda, light bulbs, brushes, brushcleaner, stapler gun...
[10:15] <Myrtti> I get to paint \o/
[10:15] <Gary> oh no
[10:15] <Gary> don't forget to take a pic of you covered in paint
[10:15] <Gary> what colour btw?
[10:16] <Myrtti> clear varnish probably. and I wont be covered in it, I'm far too trained
[10:16] <Gary> aww, can you come decorate my place please?  I always end up the colour of the walls
[10:16] <Myrtti> my mum is an interiour painter and I've been putting wallpapers and painting walls and ceilings and stuff far too long
[10:17] <Myrtti> starting at age seven or so
[10:17] <Gary> last time I was a nice magnolia colour, some of the paint was stuck in awkward places!
[10:17] <Gary> O_O  I meant ears and stuff!
[10:18] <jussi01> Gary: rofl
[10:18] <ikonia> Myrtti: what are you painting ?
[10:18] <Myrtti> ikonia: kitchen dining table and four chairs
[10:19] <Myrtti> I was surprised that the chairs and tables I thought were the best looking were the cheapest and being unfinished allow me to do finish them myself to any colour I want
[10:19] <Myrtti> solid pine ♥ 
[10:20] <popey> pink?
[10:20] <Gary> paint em PINK!
[10:20] <popey> :)
[10:20] <Gary> haha, popey you is so gay
[10:20] <popey> hello sailor
[10:20] <Myrtti> "NO"
[10:20] <Myrtti> came a voice from the bathroom
[10:20] <Gary> eye eye sailor
[10:21] <Myrtti> you guys crack me up
[10:21] <Gary> Myrtti: how about pastel colours with bunnies and flowers?
[10:21] <Myrtti> "NO"
[10:21] <Gary> like that terrible wallpaper you linked me to a while ago
[10:22] <ikonia> Myrtti: have you actually moved over here ?
[10:22] <ikonia> Myrtti: I thought you where only over for a month or so
[10:22] <Myrtti> um... no
[10:22] <Myrtti> haven't moved
[10:22] <ikonia> ooh, ok
[10:22] <Myrtti> it's not my decision to make ;-)
[10:22] <ikonia> ok
[10:22] <Myrtti> if I'm invited, I'll consider
[10:22] <Gary> lies, if you agrue enough, you will win
[10:23] <Myrtti> Gary: I'm not coming with my bags and stuff and just say "I'm moving in"
[10:23] <jussi01> Gary: LIES - you argue enough you get punched in the face...
[10:23] <popey> not the face! not the face!
[10:23] <Gary> jussi01: well thats how it works for me yeah
[10:23] <Myrtti> it's not my house and I'm not paying the mortgage
[10:23] <Myrtti> not to gumdrop buttons!
[10:23] <Myrtti> s/to/the/
[10:24] <Gary> Myrtti: if you decorate, move in here, keep tomothy company during the week
[10:24] <Gary> if you can scare him enough so he gets a job, i'll be really thankful
[10:25] <jussi01> Gary: just tell him youll send him to visit me if he doesnt get a job... :P
[10:26] <Myrtti> "boo"
[10:44] <Gary> who killed the topic in -offtopic :p
[10:45] <jussi01> Gary: I blame you...
[10:51] <ikonia> @bansearch Psuedo
[10:57] <elky> i dont recall saying that -ot could start idiot season...
[11:20] <Daviey> Gary: i'll move in with Gary, as a favour
[11:20] <Daviey> err Tomothy
[11:37] <ikonia> I think the user Psuedo is Panarchy
[11:37] <ikonia> now I'm certain
[11:37] <ikonia> I mentioned the name "panarchy" in ##linux and Psuedo joined #freenode to see if I was mentioning it in there
[11:39] <ikonia> how he's asking if people can see through cloakes - it's panarchy and he's panicing
[11:39] <ikonia> 11:35 < Psuedo> better to have multiple layers of redundancy
[11:39] <ikonia> 11:35 < ikonia> your panarchy
[11:40] <ikonia> 11:36 -!- Psuedo [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/psuedo] has joined #freenode
[11:42] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu Psuedo looks like panarchy 
[11:43] <elky> heh
[11:44] <ikonia> I'm %80 certain
[11:44] <ikonia> same attitude/same questions/same inability to understand a response/installing 5'os on one box/couldn't work grub and then panic'd when I metioned the name panarchy
[11:51] <elky> i think christel is the one who dealt with panarchy. other staff may not know the relevence
[11:51] <ikonia> elky: yeah, just want them to confirm if it's the same ISP / Range / Country 
[11:51] <ikonia> elky: the nick was only just registered too a few days ago - after he was banned again from otfw
[11:52] <ikonia> christel: ping
[11:54] <Mez> and now this is where my logs start confusing me
[11:54] <ikonia> ?
[11:54] <Mez> DST :D
[11:58] <christel> hoppla!
[11:59] <ikonia> hello 
[11:59] <ikonia> christel: could you do me a favour and see if the user Psuedo who just quit has anything in common with the now famous user Panarchy
[11:59] <ikonia> christel: I've got a pretty good reason to suspect it's the same guy and that he's kline/ban dodging
[12:00] <christel> he coonnected from *.mstarmetro.net
[12:00] <ikonia> doesn't seem the same guy then
[12:00] <christel> which doesnt match panarchy
[12:00] <ikonia> everything else matched almost perfectly
[12:00] <christel> having said that, it could be panarchy if he's discovered proxies
[12:00] <elky> ikonia, idiots are rarely unique ;)
[12:01] <ikonia> elky: this was almost word for word
[12:01] <ikonia> and he panic'd when I said the name panarchy
[12:01] <ikonia> joined freenode and started asking if people could see through cloaks
[12:01] <ikonia> his questions where identical to panarchys, he was doing exactly the same thing, having exactly the same problems etc etc
[12:01] <christel> completely ignore me
[12:02] <ikonia> christel: ?
[12:02] <christel> the host was that of the person who owns the nic
[12:02] <christel> but the user earlier didnt identify
[12:02] <christel> oh they did, i just cant misspell psuedo !
[12:02] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[12:02] <christel> give me 2ticks 
[12:02] <ikonia> I was just about to say it did
[12:03] <ikonia> a new nick too registered 1 day after panarchy was again banned from otfw
[12:03] <elky> otfw?
[12:03] <ikonia> otfc
[12:04] <elky> ah
[12:04] <christel> ok that looks more like panarchy
[12:04] <ikonia> christel: thought so 
[12:04] <christel> new south wales bigpond.au ip
[12:04] <ikonia> christel: do I get a badge ?
[12:04] <elky> that's panarchy alright
[12:05] <christel> you do! you get a badge and he gets a new kline!
[12:05] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[12:06] <elky> now if only we could get rid of umakant and the fruity one so easy
[12:06] <ikonia> elky: he's klined :)
[12:06] <christel> heehe what are they up to
[12:06] <ikonia> elky: yesteday 
[12:06] <elky> ikonia, umakant is klined?
[12:06] <christel> i dont get panarchy, for a troll he's bloody weird, but he's definitely not not-a-troll
[12:06] <ikonia> elky: as in icebuntu
[12:06] <ikonia> christel: he's a moron 
[12:06] <ikonia> christel: it's that simple
[12:07] <christel> hehe
[12:07] <ikonia> christel: trying to be a "hacker"
[12:07] <ikonia> claims he's a paid black hat hacker, yet can't boot an OS
[12:07] <christel> hahaha
[12:07] <elky> ikonia, nice. now, fruit salad's turn
[12:07] <ikonia> http://alesi.projecthugo.co.uk/kline_truck.jpg
[12:07] <ikonia> jump in !
[12:07] <ikonia> (sorry - it's a new thing for me in the UK, still laughing about it) 
[12:09] <elky> ikonia, any sign of the fruity one today?
[12:10] <christel> hehe
[12:10] <ikonia> elky: one at a time please
[12:12] <elky> negative for apple, negative for orange, negative for lemon
[12:12] <ikonia> he'll run out of fruit soon and move to vege's
 hi friends
[13:32] <elky> yes, i know
[13:32] <elky> he's also in ##australia and various kde chans
[13:42] <elky> he got his free k-ticket
[13:57] <elky> ikonia, still around?
[13:58] <ikonia> yes
[13:58] <ikonia> just come back funny enough
[13:59] <elky> ikonia, you have contacts on #oftc, yes? fujisan has creepied his way over to there and is now haunting hobbsee and i
[13:59] <ikonia> I have no contacts at all on there 
[13:59] <ikonia> I'm just a pleb user
[13:59] <elky> he noticed when i joined #oftc and suddenly joined it and proclaimed it his new freenode
[14:00] <ikonia> elky what's he logged in as ?
[14:00] <elky> fujiosan
[14:00] <ikonia> I see him
[14:01] <elky> i mean, i'm one of 4 people in #debian-au there, and suddenly he joins. creepy as
[14:01] <ikonia> just stupid
[14:01] <Myrtti> nobody in camlug is intrested about a sunday meetup :-(
[14:01] <ikonia> I suppose talking to one of the ops is pointless ?
[14:01] <Myrtti> sitting at cb2 with mah n800, tumbleweed n crickets
[14:01] <ikonia> oh dear
[14:01] <Myrtti> horrring
[14:01] <ikonia> Myrtti: you're welcome to the BBLUG next weekend
[14:02] <elky> ikonia, i asked in #oftc for stalker protections, but the on-duty are useless
[14:02] <ikonia> ughh
[14:02] <bazhang> is that channel on freenode? #oftc
[14:02] <ikonia> nah
[14:02] <ikonia> it's on oftc
[14:02] <bazhang> aha
[14:02] <bazhang> I just joined an empty channel :)
[14:03] <Myrtti> ikonia: planning to take a day off for london release party ;-)
[14:03] <ikonia> ah well
[14:13] <christel> partypartyparty!
[14:14] <ikonia> ughhh I've just had to fire my wordpress developer
[14:15] <ikonia> the guy is 3 months late and still not getting anywhere - gutted
[14:19] <elky> developing what?
[14:20] <ikonia> wordpress theme
[14:20] <ikonia> nothing more
[14:20] <ikonia> just hunting for a new guy now
[14:21] <elky> wordpress themes are stupid simple
[14:21] <ikonia> you need a design first
[14:21] <elky> that is true
[14:22] <ikonia> the guy did an good mockup, then struggled to make that mockup a functioning design, made some compromises then struggled to make it work as a theme
[14:22] <ikonia> had to knock it on the head and I'll have to find someone new, 
[14:23] <bazhang> for a blog?
[14:23] <ikonia> bit more than a blog, but yeah
[14:23] <bazhang> wow you must be uber-rich :)
[14:24] <ikonia> ???????
[14:25] <ikonia> hiring someone to do a proffesional design for a project? 
[14:25] <bazhang> I get all my wordpress themes from wordpress.com stock :(
[14:25] <ikonia> yeah, this needs to be a new unique one
[14:25] <bazhang> aha
[14:25] <ikonia> I get all mine from there too
[15:43] <jussi01> ikonia: the oxygen designer is looking for work... perhaps he could do something for you? (has artistic ability, not sure about wordpress stuff...) 
[15:51] <jussi01> !forget nvidia-beta
[16:13] <LjL> client incoming
[16:13] <shadeslayer> hi 
[16:13] <LjL> shadeslayer: nothing against me pasting our query for the others here to catch up?
[16:13] <shadeslayer> no problem
[16:14] <LjL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/140155/
[16:14] <LjL> please check this if you know a bit about the history here
[16:14] <LjL> and/or if you're in the mood to match hostmasks
[16:15] <shadeslayer> LjL: im sorry,what do you mean
[16:16] <ikonia> allow me to interject
[16:16] <ikonia> shadeslayer: your telling lies
[16:16] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:17] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you admited to me you where rohan and you where sorry for telling lies about being him
[16:17] <ikonia> you did it beacause you where curious 
[16:17] <ikonia> do you remember that conversation
[16:17] <shadeslayer> ikonia: no,i told you and LjL that i was rohan for the first 15 days of jan
[16:17] <LjL> shadeslayer: i was talking to the other ops
[16:17] <ikonia> no - you where before that
[16:17] <ikonia> LjL: ahh sorry 
[16:17] <LjL> ikonia: ?
[16:18] <ikonia> and maddy also you where maddy 
[16:18] <LjL> ikonia: i was responding to the "what do you mean"
[16:18] <ikonia> LjL: oh
[16:18] <ikonia> thought I was treading on your toes
[16:19] <LjL> hi Nuken
[16:19] <shadeslayer> ok so the basic thing is im shadeslayer from 15 jan,thats it
[16:19] <ikonia> no
[16:19] <ikonia> thats not the basic 
[16:19] <Nuken> hi LjL
[16:19] <ikonia> you have been rhoan from before that - and admited it, you have been ugreat and admited it, you have been maddy and admited it
[16:19] <shadeslayer> and i was rohan till 15th jan
[16:19] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i did admit
[16:19] <ikonia> ok - so you're keeping up with that lie, I won't discuss it futher
[16:19] <shadeslayer> but not for rohan
[16:20] <LjL> shadeslayer...
[16:20] <LjL> you had the ident "rohan"
[16:20] <shadeslayer> ikonia: what lie,i accept all the facts, i was urgreat,imgreat and maddy
[16:20] <LjL> as the "other" rohan
[16:20] <LjL> you were from the *same subnet*
[16:20] <LjL> how can we seriously believe you?
[16:20] <shadeslayer> LjL: subnet??
[16:20] <LjL> shadeslayer: same pool of addresses.
[16:21] <shadeslayer> LjL: well i told you that i and he live in the same country and same region
[16:21] <LjL> right
[16:21] <LjL> but what are the chances
[16:21] <shadeslayer> i dont knoe
[16:21] <ikonia> none after he admited it was him to me
[16:21] <LjL> that two people with the same first name, from the same subnet, join the same channels on the same irc network?
[16:21] <shadeslayer> *know
[16:22] <LjL> a lake MAY freeze in the summer
[16:22] <shadeslayer> LjL: u can as in #freenode who rohan is registered to
[16:22] <LjL> but if we based what we do on that possibility, we'd never do anything
[16:22] <LjL> shadeslayer: freenode staff will not tell me what a cloak's IP address is
[16:22] <shadeslayer> LjL: in all totality,i was not rohan from 15th jan
[16:23] <ikonia> you admited to being rhoan before that to me
[16:23] <ikonia> when I caught you being maddy
[16:23] <ikonia> and you explained you wanted to test what happened if you ban dodged
[16:23] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i was admitting to bein rohan *before* 15th jan
[16:23] <LjL> shadeslayer: do you want me to ask freenode staff to confirm or deny the possibility that you two are the same?
[16:23] <shadeslayer> yes you can ask
[16:23] <ikonia> shadeslayer: I caught you changing nicks from rohan to maddy 
[16:24] <ikonia> after Jan
[16:24] <shadeslayer> may i join freenode to check too
[16:24] <LjL> !staff | please, can you check for shadeslayer (on his request) whether the "rohan" account and the "shadeslayer" account may correspond to the same user?
[16:24] <ikonia> I verfied this with your client ID to - when I versioned you 
[16:24] <shadeslayer> ikonia: rohan was registered,so i had to change nicks
[16:24] <ikonia> ok - I'm out of this conversation as you are now telling lies
[16:24] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i had just reinstalled quassel,the default nick was rohan
[16:25] <ikonia> the default nick is not rohan
[16:25] <shadeslayer> ikonia: no im not telling lies
[16:25] <LjL> let's wait a moment for a response from staff, shall we?
[16:25] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:25] <ikonia> yes lets
[16:25] <christel> doesnt appear to be registered to the same person (different ips, different email)
[16:25] <shadeslayer> see
[16:25] <LjL> thank you christel
[16:25] <nalioth> er, okay
[16:26] <LjL> be right back, phone
[16:26] <shadeslayer> ikonia: will that satisfy you?
[16:26] <ikonia> no
[16:26] <ikonia> I didn't say you where registerd as rhoan
[16:26] <ikonia> I said you where using the nick
[16:26] <shadeslayer> ikonia: please tell me,what will
[16:26] <ikonia> which you admited to me 
[16:26] <ikonia> I caught you chaging nick from shadeslayer to maddy, and rhoan to maddy123 
[16:26] <shadeslayer> ikonia: as i said the nick was registered,had to change nicks
[16:26] <ikonia> that was after Jan 
[16:27] <LjL> uhm, i need to leave home for a minute
[16:27] <ikonia> as you can see you can use a nick that is not registered
[16:27] <ikonia> that is registered sorry
[16:27] <rohan> hi - I'm using a registered nick 
[16:28] <shadeslayer> ikonia: let me tell you,i changed from shadeslayer to rohan(registred),Nickserv tells me to identify,i cant,so i change nicks to maddy 
[16:28] <shadeslayer> ikonia: did nickserv tell you to identify??
[16:29] <rohan> I am using a registered nick
[16:29] <shadeslayer> yes,did nickserv say anything
[16:29] <maddy123> I have changed nicks
[16:29] <maddy123> exactly the same as you did
[16:29] <ikonia> yes, nickserv warned me it was registered, but I ignored it, same way you did 
[16:30] <shadeslayer> no,i changed nicks,i always do
[16:30] <ikonia> "ok" 
[16:30] <shadeslayer> i thought that it had a 30 sec limit
[16:31] <christel> it does, but only if the account owner has set enforce on :)
[16:31] <ikonia> this is a pointless conversation as I caught you doing it and spoke to you about it - and you admited it 
[16:31] <shadeslayer> i didnt know that,i thought it had a 30 sec limit,i changed nicks in what 10 sec
[16:31] <ikonia> and that was after jan
[16:32] <shadeslayer> ikonia: yes,i know,you caught me,i was changing nicks as nickserv told me
[16:32] <ikonia> from rohan to maddy
[16:32] <ikonia> and that was after january
[16:32] <shadeslayer> unfourtunately you came at the precise moment when i was changing nicks
[16:33] <ikonia> well, enough of this
[16:33] <shadeslayer> yes,because Chanserv told me
[16:33] <ikonia> when you are prepared to tell the truth 
[16:33] <ikonia> I'll chat more about it
[16:33] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i am telling it
[16:34] <shadeslayer> when i say lies you say i lie,when i say the truth you rebuke me for lying again
[16:34] <ikonia> that is the price of being a known liar
[16:34] <ikonia> and as I said I CAUGHT you changing nicks from rohan AFTER january so I know your telling me lies
[16:35] <shadeslayer> i am admitting that i changed nicks,*but* just because chanserv told me
[16:35] <shadeslayer> *nickserv
[16:35] <ikonia> but you said you didn't use rohan after January - so explain that? 
[16:36] <shadeslayer> so when did i actually *use* rohan??
[16:36] <ikonia> you've used it many times
[16:36] <shadeslayer> i was changing nicks thats all
[16:36] <shadeslayer> no
[16:36] <ikonia> ahh this is going no-where
[16:36] <ikonia> this is the price of being a known and admited lair
[16:36] <ikonia> it's impossible to believe anything you say without proof
[16:37] <ikonia> liar 
[16:37] <shadeslayer> havent i repaid it yet??
[16:37] <shadeslayer> ive been out of here for the past 2 weeks
[16:37] <shadeslayer> *1
[16:37] <ikonia> you where a pain for months
[16:38] <ikonia> and you've only been out BECAUSE you where banned
[16:38] <ikonia> after months of ban dodging
[16:38] <shadeslayer> not from #kubuntu
[16:38] <ikonia> no, you're in there because you're not banned ?
[16:38] <shadeslayer> months??? shouldnt that be days??
[16:38] <shadeslayer> ikonia: was not there for a whole week
[16:38] <ikonia> because you where banned
[16:39] <shadeslayer> no,i wasnt banned from kubuntu
[16:39] <ikonia> oh you mean you've not been in #kubuntu fora week ?
[16:39] <shadeslayer> no
[16:39] <ikonia> what do you mean then ?
[16:39] <shadeslayer> yes,i mean ive not been in #kubuntu for a week
[16:39] <ikonia> yes you have
[16:40] <ikonia> you've been in on a regular basis since being banned
[16:40] <shadeslayer> i was told to " keep out " from any *buntu channel
[16:40] <ikonia> yet you've been in on a regular basis
[16:40] <shadeslayer> no
[16:40] <ikonia> you're in there now !
[16:40] <shadeslayer> not for the past week
[16:41] <shadeslayer> yes,after i got a snag
[16:41] <ikonia> look this is going nowhere I won't be lifting my bans because you are a proven liar and you have done nothing to prove otherwise to me
[16:41] <shadeslayer> ikonia: im talking about the past week
[16:41] <shadeslayer> ikonia: im not asking to lift the ban
[16:41] <ikonia> oh, ok - then what do you want
[16:41] <shadeslayer> ikonia: im here to talk about how much more time ill have to stay out
[16:42] <shadeslayer> and about my behaiour
[16:42] <ikonia> until people have confidence that you're not an issue or a liar any more
[16:42] <shadeslayer> when will that be?
[16:42] <ikonia> when you can prove to people you're not telling lies and you're not an issue in the channel
[16:43] <shadeslayer> how do i do that.without being let in
[16:43] <ikonia> the way you act when you talk to us in here 
[16:43] <shadeslayer> how do i act then
[16:44] <shadeslayer> i say the truth,you brand me a liar
[16:44] <ikonia> however you want, I have no confidence you're telling the truth based on what I've seen 
[16:44] <ikonia> if others beleive you then they maybe more willing to listen to you
[16:45] <shadeslayer> ok,ill wait for LjL
[16:45] <ikonia> shadeslayer: come back later then and speak to LJL see if he feels differently
[16:46] <shadeslayer> ikonia: are you sure you wont influence him behind my back??
[16:46] <ikonia> he is strong enough to make up his own mind
[16:46] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:46] <ikonia> oh and for the record do you also admit to being sh4d3sl4y3r!
[16:46] <shadeslayer> bye them
[16:46] <shadeslayer> *then
[16:46] <shadeslayer> ikonia: absolutely not
[16:47] <ikonia> ok 
[16:48] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops shadeslayer request to be unbanned
[16:55] <LjL> ok for the record, the ban might even be removed for all that i'm concerned
[16:55] <LjL> if he just behaves in the future, then meh
[16:56] <ikonia> your call
[16:56] <ikonia> I'm not lifting mine without a good reason, more so as he's just lied in here 
[16:58] <LjL> (i've been called down by a friend who went to a fair and gave me as a present... a deck of "binary cards" :o)
[16:58] <ikonia> ughhh
[16:58] <ikonia> geek gift
[16:59] <LjL> well, he's not a nerd, but he is convinced i am one...
[16:59] <LjL> ... for some reason ...
[16:59] <LjL> ... the reason possibly being that i am ...
[16:59] <ikonia> busted
[17:01] <LjL> ikonia: i did tell him the whole story about the Grundy function and nim-sum in games theory as a punishment
[17:01] <ikonia> so a good reason to think you are a nerd
[17:02] <LjL> Nuken: did you want to ask us anything?
[17:02] <ikonia> @bansearch Guest_509
[17:05] <LjL> ikonia: he joined -read-topic, but his current nick isn't an exploit victim's
[17:05] <ikonia> odd
[17:06] <LjL> ikonia: i'm asking him about it. freenode servers lately have had bad desync
[17:06] <LjL> i might just not be seeing the ban from my server
[17:07] <shadeslayer_> LjL, you there??
[17:07] <LjL> shadeslayer_, yes
[17:07] <shadeslayer> LjL, do you trust me?
[17:08] <shadeslayer> that i speak the truth,and not lie ?
[17:08] <LjL> shadeslayer: it's hard to say. as i said all evidence points to you being rohan
[17:08] <LjL> shadeslayer: besides, even if you are not, you've been banned several times as shadeslayer
[17:09] <shadeslayer> LjL, i am rohan,i real life,the nick rohan belongs to someone else as freenode pointed out
[17:09] <shadeslayer> LjL, i promise to behave
[17:09] <LjL> shadeslayer: yes, i meant to say there's evidence you are the "other" rohan
[17:09] <shadeslayer> oh....ok
[17:10] <shadeslayer> LjL, so now,i ask,will you unban me?
[17:10] <Nuken> somebody here use XenServer?
[17:11] <shadeslayer> i promised that i wont join any *buntu channel for a week,i kept my promise
[17:11] <Flannel> Nuken: This isn't a support channel, you should try #ubuntu
[17:11] <Nuken> oh sorry
[17:11] <Nuken> i use slackware
[17:12] <Nuken> thanks
[17:12] <LjL> shadeslayer: i'll remove the ban that was set by me - if you have any other bans, i won't remove those
[17:12] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:12] <LjL> shadeslayer: please consider this temporary, though
[17:12] <shadeslayer> LjL, sure
[17:12] <shadeslayer> LjL, i know the ops will always be watching
[17:12] <LjL> shadeslayer: i reserve to investigate some more to look for other evidence on whether you are or are not the "other" rohan
[17:13] <LjL> shadeslayer: yes, that, but also the fact i want to check better
[17:13] <LjL> shadeslayer: but on that topic too, i'm sure you realize we'll be watching you very attentively, so one more instance of misbehavior, and you're gone
[17:13] <shadeslayer> LjL, i will keep that in mind
[17:13] <shadeslayer> LjL, can you tell me if i have other bans as well?
[17:14] <LjL> shadeslayer: i guess the easiest way is to try joining
[17:14] <shadeslayer> LjL, so ban removed?
[17:14] <LjL> yes
[17:14] <shadeslayer> thanks,i can join
[17:15] <shadeslayer> thanks to all the ops for believing in me
[17:17] <LjL> Guest_509 is getting redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:17] <LjL> he's connected to Verne
[17:17] <LjL> i can't see a ban on him, either from my server or Verne
[17:17] <LjL> anyone has better eyes than me?
[17:18] <Guest_509> worked now..
[17:18] <LjL> wait, you are in #ubuntu now
[17:18] <ikonia> I couldn't see anything earlier
[17:18] <ikonia> he was in #ubuntu before though as guest and xnxnxn or something similar
[17:18] <ikonia> he wasn't banned he kept leaving on his own
[17:18] <LjL> Guest_509: what were you typing to join?
[17:18] <Guest_509> /join #ubuntu
[17:19] <Guest_509> but 2nd time i join it make me in #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:19]  * LjL scratches his head
[17:20] <LjL> ikonia: the other nicks he had don't look banned, either
[17:21] <LjL> Guest_509: ok look, if this happens again, please join here and ask us about it
[17:21] <Guest_509> ok, thk you
[17:22] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops Guest_509 Apparently getting redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic without a ban in place that I could find, told him to come back if the problem happens again
[17:23] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops shadeslayer Unbanned with (strong) reserve, see also http://paste.ubuntu.com/140155/ - Please ban again on any instance of even slight bad behavior
[17:25] <jussi01> ok, this is curious. I wonder if its my client or something else, but I keep getting PMs from people in #ubuntu-read-topic with the message of simply: #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:25] <LjL> jussi01: people like who?
[17:26] <jussi01> LjL: I just had "linux"
[17:26] <jussi01> and
[17:26] <jussi01> [00:35:13] <yggdrasil> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:26] <jussi01> [00:35:24] <yggdrasil> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:26] <jussi01> [00:00:00]  [Day changed to Sunday March 29 2009]
[17:26] <LjL> uhm
[17:26] <jussi01> that was yesterday
[17:26] <jussi01> I seem to get a fair few...
[17:26] <LjL> yggdrasil i think is an "old" exploit victim
[17:26] <LjL> (i.e. always get exploited)
[17:27] <Flannel> jussi01: You're being haunted by past exploit victims!
[17:27] <LjL> "linux" might not even be an actual exploit victim, probably a common nickname
[17:27] <Flannel> WooooOOOooooOOOoooooooo
[17:27] <jussi01> [21:21:30] <Spike1506> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:27] <jussi01> [00:00:00]  [Day changed to Saturday March 21 2009]
[17:27] <jussi01> [00:03:39] <Spike1506> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:27] <jussi01> [00:00:00]  [Day changed to Sunday March 22 2009]
[17:27] <jussi01> and there are many more Ive deleted...
[17:27] <LjL> i don't think it's happened to me
[17:27] <Flannel> No, that's really strange.
[17:28] <jussi01> I asked the lead dev of quassel about it and he said he hasnt a clue, wondered about it also.
[17:29] <LjL> jussi01: if you want to find out, you should put a sniffer in between (or an irc proxy)
[17:29] <LjL> and look at the actual raw traffic
[17:30] <jussi01> hrm
[17:30] <jussi01> I wonder if the info is hidden in the core somewhere...
[17:31] <LjL> jussi01: i actually don't have anything about yggdrasil for a time of 00:35
[17:32] <LjL> nor Spike for 21:21 or 0:03
[17:32] <LjL> although it might just be my logs being patchy
[17:34] <jussi01> LjL: remember they are finnish times... (is italy same?)
[17:35] <LjL> jussi01: no, italy is CET, you are EET
[17:35] <LjL> jussi01: but anyway i took that into account
[17:35] <jussi01> LjL: I just got linux again
[17:35] <jussi01> [19:31:22] <linux> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:35] <jussi01> [19:31:45] <linux> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:36] <LjL> jussi01: ok, excuse my ctcps
[17:36] <LjL> (which you don't reply to)
[17:36] <jussi01> heh
[17:37] <jussi01> quassel still needs some work there likely.
[17:37] <LjL> jussi01: paste your time please, try to make it accurate (dunno if something like /exec -o date works in quassel)
[17:39] <jussi01> LjL: Sun Mar 29 19:34:42 EEST 2009
[17:39] <jussi01> thats probably 5 seconds off (time to copy/paste from konsole)
[17:39] <LjL> jussi01: your time is quite wrong then - or mine is
[17:39] <jussi01> and thats the time on the server where the core it
[17:40] <LjL> mine should be right
[17:40] <jussi01> LjL: mine likely
[17:40] <LjL> so, you're off by about 4 minutes, hm
[17:40] <jussi01> ok then
[17:42] <LjL> jussi01: it seems to be about when he quit - at least the second one
[17:42] <LjL> jussi01: tell me if you get anything from me
[17:43] <LjL> jussi01: nothing?
[17:43] <jussi01> LjL: doesnt look like it currently :/
[17:44] <jussi01> LjL: try 1 more time
[17:45] <jussi01> LjL: err, without ops? 
[17:45] <LjL> jussi01: let me do it from telnet
[17:45] <jussi01> kk
[17:47] <jussi01> LjL: want to see if an op saying something triggers it...
[17:47] <LjL> jussi01: i'll have the bots mark me as a victim
[17:48] <jussi01> ahh, yeah, thatll help
[17:48] <jussi01> LjL: I got both ljl1 and ljl2
[17:48] <jussi01> so it seems its when an op says something
[17:48] <jussi01> hrm
[17:49] <LjL> jussi01: did it do it now?
[17:49] <jussi01> no.
[17:49] <LjL> jussi01: now?
[17:49] <jussi01> no
[17:50] <jussi01> curious...
[17:50] <jussi01> what about if you part/quit?
[17:50] <jussi01> ok, its random as...
[17:50] <jussi01> nothing
[17:51] <LjL> jussi01: now?
[17:52] <jussi01> nope
[17:52] <ikonia> @bansearch chronic
[17:52] <LjL> yes, he's got bans :)
[17:52] <jussi01> LjL: 1 sec, gonna try something
[17:52] <ikonia> just checking he hadn't been updated to 
[17:52] <ikonia> to #ubuntu too
[17:52] <jussi01> LjL: part them now
[17:53] <LjL> jussi01: part or quit?
[17:53] <jussi01> do one of each
[17:54] <jussi01> well who knows... :/ NOTHING!
[17:58] <jussi01> LjL: could you try with a different nick perhaps?
[17:58] <jussi01> bingo, just happened
[17:59] <jussi01> LjL: ^
[17:59] <LjL> jussi01: but i still don't know why.
[17:59] <LjL> jussi01: i'll ask for a test from ljl2 in a moment, see
[17:59] <jussi01> LjL: ok
[17:59] <LjL> jussi01: did it. happened?
[18:00] <jussi01> [19:55:34] <ljl2> #ubuntu-READ-topic
[18:00] <LjL> jussi01: yes, i used weird case on purpose
[18:00] <jussi01> [19:55:52] <LjL> jussi01: did it. happened?
[18:00] <jussi01> (that last paste was to orientate you timewise)
[18:00] <LjL> jussi01: now i'll send a message first with the channel name in lowercase, then in uppercase
[18:01] <LjL> jussi01: tell me about each
[18:01] <jussi01> LjL: ok
[18:01] <LjL> jussi01: lowercase done
[18:01] <jussi01> [19:57:09] <ljl2> #ubuntu-read-topic
[18:02] <LjL> jussi01: can you tell whether that was when ljl2 sent the message, or when floodbot replied?
[18:02] <jussi01> LjL: well floodbots reply is 3 seconds after...
[18:03] <LjL> jussi01: yeah, but you have second timestamps
[18:03] <Negative> hi, LjL 
[18:03] <LjL> hi negative
[18:03] <LjL> hold on a second while we're trying to figure out something please
[18:03] <Negative> sure.
[18:03] <LjL> jussi01: just paste what you got *within* #ubuntu-read-topic timestamps included
[18:04] <jussi01> [19:57:12] <FloodBot1> ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how).
[18:04] <LjL> jussi01: and you didn't get the "test me" message from ljl2 at all?
[18:04] <jussi01> nope
[18:04] <LjL> uh
[18:04] <LjL> jussi01: ok, one last time
[18:05] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-se sebsebseb in the channel (another one) after agreeing to keep out for a few days
[18:05] <ikonia> ughh
[18:05] <LjL> jussi01: anything this time?
[18:05] <jussi01> LjL: exactly same as last time
[18:05] <jussi01> [19:57:12] <FloodBot1> ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how).
[18:05] <jussi01> [20:01:03] <FloodBot1> ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how).
[18:06] <jussi01> [20:01:00] <ljl2> #ubuntu-read-topic
[18:06] <LjL> jussi01: ok, let me talk to Negative a minute then we'll try again
[18:06] <jussi01> LjL: ok
[18:06] <LjL> Negative: what do you want to know about the floodbots?
[18:07] <Negative> LjL: Is there any chance the source could become open?
[18:07] <Negative> LjL: Just interested in seeing it
[18:07] <LjL> Negative: there is a chance, yes, but i can't guarantee it will happen
[18:08] <Negative> LjL: Who wrote it?
[18:08] <LjL> Negative: currently we've agreed to keep the source private
[18:08] <LjL> Negative: i did
[18:08] <Negative> LjL: Which language, out of curiosity?
[18:08] <LjL> PHP
[18:09] <Negative> LjL: Ah.
[18:10] <jussi01> LjL: I think I know roughly what the issue may be. 
[18:10] <LjL> jussi01: i was suspecting +mz
[18:10] <jussi01> LjL: me also
[18:11] <LjL> Negative: any other questions? if not, i think we have another user in the queue
[18:12] <Negative> LjL: Nothing else, though, let it be open source! :)
[18:13] <Negative> A lot of better things will become of it.
[18:13] <LjL> Negative: i personally wish that to happen
[18:13] <Negative> LjL: Where will it be, if it does become open source?
[18:13] <Negative> (so I can check!)
[18:14] <LjL> Negative: i don't know right now, probably launchpad, google for "launchpad ubuntu-bots"
[18:14] <LjL> Negative: you'll probably find a !floodbot factoid pointing to the source when and if it's released
[18:15] <jussi01> oh will someone give me access in +1... :/
[18:15] <LjL> jussi01: you need to ask yourself :)
[18:15] <jussi01> LjL: hehe
[18:15] <Negative> LjL: Thanks so much!
[18:15] <Negative> buh bye.
[18:15] <LjL> bye
[18:19] <LjL> sebsebseb: ok, so what's the issue
[18:21] <tsimpson> forward from +1 I think
[18:21] <sebsebseb> tsimpson: no
[18:22] <tsimpson> ok, then what can we do for you?
[18:23] <sebsebseb> LjL: I  already told you something in PM, but yeah you insisted to chat here
[18:23] <ikonia> sebsebseb: what's up ?
[18:24] <LjL> sebsebseb: yes, i pretty much would like issues to be brought forward in here, cross-PM'ing always only complicates matters
[18:25] <sebsebseb> ikonia: check the public  #ubuntu  IRC logs,  I have kept out like you wanted.   Just like I have all the other offical  English channels.
[18:25] <ikonia> sebsebseb: no
[18:26] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you tried to join +1 and I didn't see all english channels - I said all ubuntu channels as well you know, we even discussed loco channels specifically
[18:26] <sebsebseb> ikonia: I think it's a bit stupid to be here early, because  I  wanted a little bit of Swedish practice,  hence joining  those two.  and as I said there I can hardly even talk there anyway
[18:26] <sebsebseb> ikonia: +1 just now to  check if I was still banned or not
[18:27] <ikonia> sebsebseb: the point of following the REQUEST - was to prove you had self control
[18:27] <sebsebseb> ikonia: and only that
[18:27] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you knew you where banned
[18:27] <ikonia> and you tried to join +1 yesterday also 
[18:27] <ikonia> and was forwarded here
[18:27] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you are free to go where you want to as I made clear the other day, so if there is anything else you want to discuss ?
[18:28] <sebsebseb> ikonia: same reason,  and  ok yeah that's stupid to try the channel that I am pretty sure I am banned from.  
[18:28] <ikonia> yes it is stupid, and to do it multiple times is even more stupid, and to join #ubuntu based channels when you'd agreed not to for the weekend to show you had self control is also your decision, but in my view silly
[18:28] <ikonia> sebsebseb: so if there is nothing else you need please go about your day 
[18:29] <sebsebseb> ikonia: well accept for +1 at the moment,  anyway  I did what you wanted pretty much, accept...  ,but that's only minor stuff
[18:29] <ikonia> no - you did nothing I requested
[18:29] <ikonia> sebsebseb: please go about your day 
[18:29] <sebsebseb> ikonia: sure I did I haven't been in #ubuntu since  that day
[18:30] <ikonia> sebsebseb: please don't waste my time- we didn't agree #ubuntu - we agreed all #ubuntu based channels to wipe the slate clean
[18:30] <ikonia> sebsebseb: don't play stupid with me, and don't treat me like I'm stupid changing it - if you want I'll try to pull up the logs
[18:30] <ikonia> sebsebseb: I suggest you just go about your day 
[18:30] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you've not done anything wrong - there is nothing to discuss 
[18:31] <sebsebseb> ikonia: the logs would show I hadn't been in #ubuntu, but anyway.   one last thing
[18:31] <ikonia> I know you've not been in #ubuntu - no-one said you had
[18:31] <ikonia> I suggest you re-read what I have just said to you
[18:31] <sebsebseb> ikonia: altough the plan was to ask this tommorow not today.  if  I hadn't already been unbanned, but yeah when do I get access to +1?
[18:32] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you don't
[18:32] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you've proved you've got no self control - I made it quite clear and made a real effort to help you on Friday - and you've not been able to follow it, so I don't see a reason to remove the ban 
[18:32] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ok  I'll give you a reason, by being good in #ubuntu
[18:33] <sebsebseb> ikonia: plus I want to do that anyway
[18:33] <ikonia> sebsebseb: that wasn't what we disscussed
[18:33] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you're inability to read what I'm saying to you is part of the problem
[18:33] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you're not banned from #ubuntu you're free to be as good as you want in it
[18:34] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ok
[18:34] <ikonia> sebsebseb: anything else you need ?
[18:35] <sebsebseb> ikonia: how did you know what channels I joined?
[18:35] <ikonia> that doesn't matter 
[18:35] <sebsebseb> ok
[18:36] <sebsebseb> ikonia: I guess we are done
[18:36] <ikonia> yup
[18:36] <LjL> what's the GNOME charmap called?
[18:36] <LjL> (is there one?)
[18:37] <ikonia> thuinking
[18:37] <ikonia> thinking
[18:37] <sebsebseb> character map yeah
[18:37] <sebsebseb> there's something
[18:37] <ikonia> sebsebseb: if you don't need anything else please leave the channel 
[18:37] <sebsebseb> built in 
[18:37] <sebsebseb> ok bye
[18:37] <LjL> oh i found it
[18:37] <LjL> gucharmap
[18:37] <ikonia> not what I was thinking
[18:38] <Flannel> That's a bot!
[18:38] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops sebsebseb failing to comply with fresh start request
[18:40] <Flannel> Hmmm
[18:40] <LjL> Flannel: yes, it's also on other channels, i'd like to see if they spam there too
[18:40] <Flannel> He's got two other nicks conencted as well.
[18:40] <LjL> they haven't for now, not the ones i've seen anyway
[18:40] <ikonia> who ?
[18:40] <Flannel> txtest, and jpowermacg4 
[18:40] <Flannel> n=jpowerma@c-24-98-47-222.hsd1.ga.comcast.net
[18:41] <Flannel> LjL: s/b/d/
[18:41]  * jrib gives LjL a mirror
[18:41] <LjL> Flannel: eh, i don't see txtest?
[18:41] <Flannel> Right, he changed his nick... to AF2
[18:42] <LjL> Flannel: doesn't show in my /who...
[18:42] <Flannel> AF2 is the one I just removed
[18:42] <LjL> client incoming
[18:42] <Flannel> AirForceTwo
[18:43] <LjL> ah right
[18:43] <Flannel> And, he greets jpowermacg4 (the bot, that is)
[18:43] <Flannel> two hours and 13 minutes ago
[18:43] <LjL> i've seen it before
[18:43] <Flannel> Think we ought to forward jpower here, to talk it over with him?
[18:44] <Flannel> Yeah, that's not unusual.
[18:44] <LjL> Flannel: wait a moment before doing that
[18:45] <LjL> Flannel: right, i remembered right
[18:45] <LjL> Flannel: i told him i would allow his bot, he told us it would be completely silent
[18:45] <Flannel> What's his bot doing, anyway?
[18:46] <LjL> jpowermacg4: hi
[18:47] <LjL> jpowermacg4: please join this channel later when you're not idle, we need to talk to you - i'll kick you for now as you seem to be idle
[18:48] <LjL> Flannel: i don't know what it's doing, just some sort of statistics i guess, anyway i just thought as long as you're silent and don't publicly log, meh
[18:51] <LjL> Flannel: ah right. he had said it's basically an IRC client he's writing
[18:52] <LjL> i figured i wouldn't really want to be one to deny using a custom IRC client in #ubuntu
[18:52] <Flannel> Yes, but an IRC client vs a Bot are two separate things.
[18:52] <LjL> Flannel: well, a bot too, as long as it doesn't really do anything... what do i care
[18:52] <LjL> in this case, it definitely did something
[18:53] <LjL> i'm not sure it was intended though
[18:53] <LjL> Flannel: i'm sure you realize that we probably have a *number* of bots in #ubuntu which nobody ever bothered to inform us about :)
[18:54] <Flannel> Yeah.  But that doesn't mean I like them.
[18:54] <tsimpson> as long as they are quiet, I don't care much :)
[18:54] <Flannel> But, as long as they don't cause trouble, either in or out of the channel, I don't mind
[18:55] <LjL> Flannel: yeah indeed, i thought that the mere fact that he DID bother to inform us deserved a little prize, if you want to put it that way :)
[19:59] <LjL> mikem grrrrrrr
[20:49] <Flannel> How endearing....?
[20:50] <ikonia> why is there an obession to have a "personal" factoid
[20:50] <Flannel> Why is there an obsession for someone else to have a personal factoid?
[20:58] <NavadeHo> unban me from #ubuntu & #kubuntu now please, month is over
[20:59] <ikonia> one moement please
[20:59] <NavadeHo> k
[21:00] <ikonia> NavadeHo: why where you banned
[21:00] <NavadeHo> I CTCP'd a bot
[21:00] <ikonia> ahh yes
[21:00] <ikonia> a month is not up
[21:00] <ikonia> it's only been a week 
[21:00] <NavadeHo> oh
[21:00] <NavadeHo> T_T
[21:00] <NavadeHo> it felt like a month :p
[21:00] <ikonia> nopre
[21:00] <ikonia> nope
[21:01] <ikonia> see you in 3 weeks
[21:01] <NavadeHo> k
[21:01] <ikonia> seems a strong ban LjL 
[21:07] <Flannel> ikonia: Check the BT entry
[21:14] <ikonia> for NavadeHo ?
[21:14] <ikonia> I just saw the ctcp stuff
[21:19] <Flannel> ikonia: 150 some odd times, etc.
[21:20] <ikonia> oops
[21:20] <ikonia> 3 months it is then
[21:20] <Flannel> Anyone else just get CTCP versioned from sebsebseb?
[21:20] <ikonia> him again
[21:21] <Flannel> I really don't care that he did it, as long as he didn't do it to a good deal of people, etc
[21:21] <ikonia> he can't help him self
[21:45] <jussi01> HOME!!!! :D
[21:49] <Seeker`> hi
[21:52] <jussi01> heya Seeker` :)
[22:02] <Seeker`> how be?
[22:02] <jussi01> tired. going to bed soon. 
[22:22] <Flannel> jrib: beat me to it!
[22:26] <UnderTaker> You Can Tell LJL to reinstate that ban on me Thanks Have a Nice Day.
[22:26] <Flannel> Interesting.
[22:36]  * jpds wonders what ms2134 was on about in #ubuntu.
[22:48] <LjL> eh?
[22:48] <LjL> i should reinstate the ban because?
[22:50] <LjL> gah
[23:04] <Flannel> LjL: Which ban what?
[23:04] <LjL> Flannel: undertaker, but nevermind, i've seen what he typed in #ubuntu
[23:04] <LjL> so that's a ban that's clearly never going to go away
[23:04] <LjL> (although he knows very well how to evade anyway)
[23:05] <Flannel> Oh
[23:06] <LjL> i had actually removed his ban only because it was clear to both of us he could evade if he wanted to in the first place
[23:30] <Myrtti> mmmmmmmm bed