[00:00] <JustKemp> i got ubuntu last night
[00:00] <UKGent> j/ #xubuntu
[00:00] <UKGent> lol
[00:00] <JustKemp> after deleting windows by mistake
[00:00] <puff> eTranquility_: Later on I found that there were certain function key combinatiions that would convert it into that mode (usually used with projectors, so that's a good google term to add to your search).
[00:00] <eTranquility_> puff, I got that for a little while but when Ubuntu booted it switched to my laptop screen and my external monitor is blank. It doesn't seem to detect the external monitor in screen resolutions.
[00:01] <puff> Patg7590: Well obviously "xorg.conf.backup" was just an example, you have ot use the actual path and filename for oyur backup file.  Where did you drag and drop your backup file to?
[00:01] <ckwalsh> Got an error that "reinstall" isn't a valid command
[00:01] <doggyslobber> Why does firebox always start in full scren mode?
[00:01] <puff> eTranquility_: I suspect that the answer will be dependent on your particular hardware, is all I can see.
[00:01] <Patg7590> puff: the desktop-I feel like an idiot this is so simple and should be so easy
[00:01] <puff> eTranquility_: Er, all I can say.
[00:01] <puff> Patg7590: Eh, don't be too hard on yourself, switching gears for the first time can take some getting used to.
[00:02] <puff> Patg7590: It's a paradigm shift in the truest sense of the word.  The old paradigm - the mental model of the interface that oyu've built up through experience - no longer applies, so your intuition is mis-educated.  You have to internalize the new paradigm.  No big deal.
[00:02] <puff> Patg7590: Okay, what filename did you give the backup file on your desktop?
[00:03] <djcip> i have a fujitsu 5010 and i'm trying to get the tablet functionality to work - does anyone here know where i could find a step-by-step tytiruak
[00:03] <Patg7590> puff: i didnt. I just copy and pasted it to the desktop
[00:03] <ckwalsh> Grrrr...
[00:03] <ckwalsh> I'm getting close to saving my databases, wiping the partition, and updating to Jaunty
[00:03] <Patg7590> puff: its called xorg.conf just like the broken one in etc/x11
[00:03] <puff> Patg7590: Okay, os it should be xorg.conf on your desktop.  Check on it with this:  "ls -l ~/Desktop/xorg.conf"
[00:04] <puff> Patg7590: If that shows you the file, then "sudo cp ~/Desktop/xorg.conf /etc/x11/xorg.conf"
[00:04] <djcip> *tutorial on how to enable wacom support
[00:04] <Patg7590> puff: it gave me a greater than sign
[00:04] <puff> Patg7590:  Hrm
[00:04] <puff> Patg7590: pastebin it.
[00:04] <Patg7590> puff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139875/
[00:05] <ckwalsh> How stable is Jaunty?
[00:05] <chotaz> My firefox window just greyed out, what does that mean?
[00:05] <chotaz> |jaunty
[00:05] <chotaz> !jaunty
[00:05] <Patg7590> ckwalsh: about a seven
[00:05] <puff> ckwalsh: ask on #ubuntu+1 maybe?
[00:06] <ckwalsh> Will there be an upgrade path from the beta to release?
[00:06] <lstarnes> ckwalsh: I believe so
[00:06] <puff> lstarnes: Really?
[00:06] <puff> lstarnes: That's cool, they're improving then.
[00:07] <puff> Patg7590: That > means that the command line is waiting for you to enter the rest of the command.   This is because you had a quote at the end of your command, but only one quote, so it's waiting for you to type the contents of the quote and then close it.
[00:08] <puff> Patg7590: Type a second quote " and hit enter. or just hit ctrl-c.
[00:08] <Patg7590> puff *facesmack*
[00:08] <puff> Patg7590: It's a mistake folks make all the time.
[00:09] <puff> Patg7590: Well, not *all* the time (or it would have been changed to prevent that) but frequently enough that it's not a huge surprise.
[00:09] <heavenmetal> hi anyone know about 'kernel alive' lock?
[00:09] <Patg7590> puff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139879/
[00:09] <sertac> does anyone knows how to get the built in microphone working on a vaio fw ?
[00:10] <heavenmetal> i just see that message when i'm trying to boot from cd.. then the video goes out and the system reboots a moment later
[00:10] <prince_jammys> Patg7590: X11, not x11
[00:10] <puff> Patg7590: My mistake, it's capital-x
[00:10] <puff> prince_jammys: Thanks.
[00:11] <puff> sertac: I'm kinda curious about that with my thinkpad mic.
[00:11] <tonsofpcs> how do i see what files a package installed from a command line?
[00:11] <puff> tonsofpcs: pdkg -L packagename
[00:11] <tonsofpcs> thanks
[00:11] <prince_jammys> tonsofpcs: dpkg -L packagename
[00:11] <puff> Whoops, typo. Dangit, I almost beat prince_jammys that time, too :-).
[00:11] <prince_jammys> :)
[00:11] <puff> My tpying has really suffered of late.
[00:11] <sertac> puff: sorry whats that?
[00:12] <prince_jammys> my typing always sucks
[00:12] <puff> sertac: I am curious about the same question, how to get my built-in mic working, only on a thinkpad.
[00:12] <Patg7590> puff, prince_jammys: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139880/
[00:12] <puff> Patg7590: good 'nuff, now reboot.
[00:12] <prince_jammys> Patg7590: success.
[00:13] <sertac> i see, its been a real while but still no solutions
[00:13] <puff> Patg7590:  It can be isconcerting, but linux command line stuff very typically doesn't tell you anything if everything wen tokay.
[00:13] <PatrickGleason> puff, prince_jammys: I was waiting for some kind of confirmastion or something....
[00:13] <puff> PatrickGleason: It also doesn't ask you to confirm before overwriting a file :-)
[00:13] <PatrickGleason> puff: yeah exactly lol- and even if this works- Im back to square one- nothing past 800*600 lol
[00:14] <puff> PatrickGleason: Unless you use the -i  option (e.g. "sudo cp -i ~/Desktop/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf")
[00:14] <perlsyntax> how can i get emacs 23 on ubuntu 8.10?
[00:14] <puff> PatrickGleason: sorry.
[00:14] <perlsyntax> ?
[00:14] <tonsofpcs> how do i setup sbnc?
[00:15] <perlsyntax> does anyone know where i can get emacs 23?
[00:15] <puff> perlsyntax: I don't see 23 in the repositories, so you may have to track down an emacs 23 package.
[00:15] <perlsyntax> that why i asking
[00:16] <Linkin> hi!
[00:16] <Linkin> i have weird arabic symbols in ubuntu
[00:17] <Linkin> can someon help , i can not login because of this
[00:17] <mdvsm> hi
[00:17] <Linkin> :( it happened right after an ugrade
[00:17] <mdvsm> hi
[00:18] <mdvsm> /120
[00:19] <daddy242> anybody got a good understanding of apparmor
[00:21] <iceroot> daddy242: i think so that there is anybody with this skill
[00:21] <iceroot> !anyone | daddy242
[00:21] <puff> Ah, neat, ubuntu now has a USB flash drive installer tool.
[00:21] <jedimind> how would i go about getting Gnome 2.26 going on Ubuntu 8.04 ; including all the nautilus, evolution, etc updates ?
[00:21] <fbc> Could someone take a look at this and tell me what I have to do to remove this package? http://pastebin.ca/1375271
[00:22] <Hobz> My touchpad stopped working after my last upgrade and I can't find qsynaptics in the universe repo.  Where can I find it?
[00:22] <pronoy> fbc : use apt-get
[00:23] <pronoy> fbc: the package name is tspc or what ever
[00:23] <Hobz> I'm running kde, qsynaptics isn't available.  Can I use gsynaptics instead until ksynaptics is updated?
[00:23] <fbc> pronoy, I've already tried remove ,autoclean, purge nothing works
[00:23] <PatrickGleason> puff: why would restarting my computer many times make me have an awesomely small and detialed resolution out of nowhere
[00:23] <puff> Does anybody know if I can just install usb-creator on my regular ubuntu machine and create ubuntu-booting usb drives from that?
[00:24] <puff> PatrickGleason: Idaknow...
[00:24] <daddy242> I am trying to setup an apparmor profile for sshd, but I am now stuck with complaints from pid=XXX profile=null-complain-profile
[00:24] <puff> PatrickGleason: Did you ever restart your computer after your initial install, before mucking with xorg.conf?
[00:24] <pronoy> fbc: i guess you've tried reinstalling it only...? am i correct ?
[00:24] <Hobz> puff, unetbootin
[00:25] <fbc> pronoy, yeah.. it fails too.. what can I do to fix this?
[00:25] <PatrickGleason> puff: yes many many times- after every edit- the display was fine when i installed on a nice flat panel but now im on this old crt
[00:25] <puff> PatrickGleason: Maybe it was at 800x600 because that was the default when you installed it, but then you messed up xorg.conf, but after you restored xorg.conf and restarted, xorg found the higher resolution
[00:25] <puff> PatrickGleason: Okay, I guess that's not the explanation then :-)
[00:25] <sparky1492> Can someone please point me in the right direction for a good tutorial on Netatalk please.  I have Googled and and none of them are really up to date
[00:25] <PatrickGleason> puff: what can i do to make sure this survices reboots
[00:25] <pronoy> fbc: you could like check all possible packages related to this particular one from synaptic and manually remove them using apt-get
[00:25] <PatrickGleason> survives***
[00:25] <jedimind> how would i go about getting Gnome 2.26 going on Ubuntu 8.04 ; including all the nautilus, evolution, etc updates ?
[00:25] <puff> PatrickGleason: I wish I knew.
[00:26] <puff> Hobz: unetbootin?
[00:26] <Roasted> Does anybody here use a network cloning solution besides clonezilla to clone a large number of Ubuntu machines?
[00:26] <Hobz> universal boot installer
[00:26] <PatrickGleason> puff: lol i unplugged the monitor and replugged it in and after the reboot its gorgrous
[00:26] <puff> Hobz: Ah... and?
[00:27] <Hobz> puff: google it, read the wiki, and decide if it's right for you
[00:27] <Hobz> works on windows and linux, it'll even download ubuntu for you
[00:27] <fbc> pronoy,  same problem through synaptics.
[00:27] <puff> Hobz: Okay.
[00:27] <Hobz> puff: sorry, forgot I was on the #ubuntu channel
[00:28] <Deichgraf> hello, how may I backup my IMAP mail?
[00:28] <pronoy> fbc: don't uncheck the packages ..just generate a list.....and use it to manually remove them using apt
[00:29] <puff> Deichgraf: Check into fetchmail.
[00:29] <puff> Odd, usb-creator was already installed.
[00:29] <fbc> pronoy, hmm,, i've never done that before.. let me see what I can do.
[00:31] <PatrickGleason> puff: thanks so much for your knowledge and patience
[00:31] <daddy242> Does anybody know how to get rid of apparmor complaints like requested_mask="::r" denied_mask="::r" name="/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl-2.7.so" pid=6792 profile="null-complain-profile" namespace="default" for a sshd profile
[00:32] <fbc> pronoy, ok I have a list of the installed files for that package and dependencies.. where do I go from here?
[00:33] <pronoy> fbc: actually its gonna be tiring......check all dependencies and packages
[00:33] <pronoy> manually remove em using apt-get
[00:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> is there any way to do a Ubuntu 8.10 server install over the network ?
[00:34] <Roasted> Does anybody here use a network cloning solution besides clonezilla to clone a large number of Ubuntu machines?
[00:34] <danny__> i have a .bin file how do i change it to a executable file?
[00:35] <iceroot> danny__: chmod +x filename
[00:35] <bigm2793> can someone help me? im a noob at this. the video drivers say type sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.29-pkg2.run but i have no idea how to
[00:35] <danny__> thanks iceroot
[00:36] <iceroot> bigm2793: sure you have a 64bit system?
[00:36] <bigm2793> yeah i downloaded the 64 bit version
[00:36] <iceroot> bigm2793: then open a terminal and type the command
[00:36] <jedimind> how would i go about getting Gnome 2.26 going on Ubuntu 8.04 ; including all the nautilus, evolution, etc updates ?
[00:37] <cubas> is there any "must have" libraries package which is good to install after fresh installation ?
[00:37] <iceroot> cubas: depending of what you need of course
[00:37] <pronoy> cubas: all i can suggest is a full upgrade using synaptic llike 230 mb download
[00:37] <bigm2793> it says it cant open it
[00:38] <iceroot> bigm2793: sudo sh NVI......
[00:38] <iceroot> !sudo | bigm2793
[00:38] <pronoy> cubas: you get almost everything a basic user requires
[00:38] <jimi_hendrix> hmm i thought more people would leave for earth hour </OT>
[00:39] <johni> hello everybody; have a question about ext3 (or any filesystem for that matter), is possible to cache in memory contents of files transparently? for example on a system with lots of memory I want to speed up reads by having some contents cached in memory
[00:41] <billybigrigger> hey, is anyone aware of anyway to tell how much power im drawing from my psu in realtime? i just switched out an x2 5000+ brisbane (65w) for an x2 7750 kuma (95w) and want to know how close i am to maxing out this PSU, for some reason i can't power 1 of my SATA disks anymore, but I also added a front 120mm case fan
[00:42] <billybigrigger> either a linux or windows app that will run in wine
[00:42] <PatrickGleason> does anyone have experience fixing a problem with the virtual resolution after using an external display such as a tv?
[00:42] <pronoy> billybigrigger: did you overclock ur processor ?
[00:43] <Hobz> where do I find xorg.conf?
[00:43] <pronoy> Hobz: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:43] <PatrickGleason> hobz: etc/X11
[00:44] <PatrickGleason> hobz: thats the root of my problems for the last 6 hours :D
[00:44] <Hobz> PatrickGleason, mine too, touchpad issues
[00:45] <billybigrigger> pronoy, yes...but even at stock speeds i couldnt get the sata disk to work
[00:45] <PatrickGleason> hobz: mine is display-always display
[00:45] <billybigrigger> i can plug in the SATA disk and my bios sits for at least a minute or 2 before it realises theres no disk, and BIOS isn't detecting a disk
[00:45] <PatrickGleason> does anyone know what the thing in compiz is called that is called expose in OSX?
[00:46] <billybigrigger> pronoy, im wondering if i've maxed this psu :P
[00:46] <Guest28811> how do i change a .bin formatted file to a executable file?
[00:46] <PatrickGleason> where all open windows are up at once and you can pick which one to bring to the front?
[00:46] <iceroot> Guest28811: chmod +x
[00:46] <digitalchemist> @PatrickGleason: Scale
[00:46] <Guest28811> is there a special order?
[00:47] <iceroot> Guest28811: chmod +x yourbinfile
[00:47] <BobTheBlueBerry> does anyone know how I completely disable Intel graphics kernel modules?
[00:47] <pronoy> Guest28811: lemme guess trying to install real player ?
[00:47] <genii> !blacklist | BobTheBlueBerry
[00:47] <iceroot> BobTheBlueBerry: look for it with lsmod, remove it with rmmod
[00:47] <iceroot> BobTheBlueBerry: yes or use blacklist
[00:47] <puff> PatrickGleason: Pass it on down the line to the next guy (which may be me, when I have a mac question :-).
[00:48] <genii> BobTheBlueBerry: If you remove the module live as iceroot suggests, use: sudo modprobe -r and not not rmmod
[00:48] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: THANKS!!! can i set it ti only need a mouse moving into corner-rather than needing a click as well?
[00:48] <puff> PatrickGleason: I guarantee you there have been and iwll be times when I'm the clueless one and somebody else has been incredibly helpful.  Right here, yesterday, in fact :-)
[00:48] <kadaver> so is writing a driver just writing a spec or is it really hard?
[00:48] <BobTheBlueBerry> thanks
[00:49] <digitalchemist> Patrick: Yes, do you have CCSM installed?
[00:50] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: yes i enabled scale but i dont want to have to click, Im trying to emulate the hot corners of osx
[00:50] <jean_> join *ubuntu-br
[00:50] <fbc> how do I update my i686 ubuntu ubuntu install to an x64 install?
[00:50] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: nevermind im so dumb
[00:50] <digitalchemist> Patrick: Go to where you configure Scale. The first tab is "Bindings"
[00:50] <ivair> Boa noite, este canal é ubuntu br ?
[00:50] <digitalchemist> Patrick: well, enjoy it   :-)
[00:50] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: haha i was looking under the mouse and not the screen
[00:51] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: because to me... that is a mouse thing(in my mind at least) and not so much a screen thing lol
[00:52] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: ok....one more thing lol is there a way to have the windows scaled WHILE it goes to expo? (like in osx) :-P
[00:53] <digitalchemist> PatrickGleason: I'm not familiar with OSX... what do you mean?
[00:53] <fbc> how do I update my i686 ubuntu ubuntu install to an x64 install?
[00:53] <glitsj16> PatrickGleason: you could try to emulate that by playing with the speed settings of the scale effect in ccsm i guess
[00:54] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: well scale shows all open windows....and expo shows all desktops....in osx you can show all windows--->then all desktops to have all windows in all desktops scaled: making it easy to move windows around
[00:54] <PatrickGleason> but I cant expo until ive chosen a window.....so i cant expo while im scaled
[00:56] <BlackCoffee> is there a way of downloading the seamonkey composer without having to download the whole app suite?
[00:56] <Iceman_B^Ltop> whats the big difference between Ubuntu 8.10 desktop and server edition ?
[00:56] <Dulichion> hi can anyone help me with an update issue
[00:56] <digitalchemist> PatrickGleason: I'm not sure how to do that... There's the Expo plugin which shows all desktops and allows you to drag windows between them; The Scale plugin lets you show windows on the current desktop or windows on all desktops... will a combination of those things work?
[00:57] <Dulichion> stdout : No space left on device when i try to upgrade I get an error output
[00:57] <ishmandoorebop> i just reinstalled virtual box but when i clock the launcher for it now, nothing happens
[00:57] <ishmandoorebop> when i try to run it in terminal, it says installation not found
[00:57] <ishmandoorebop> any ideas?
[00:58] <blinkin_gremlin> quick question
[00:58] <blinkin_gremlin> need a terminal that has a function similar to PuTTY's highligh and copy function
[00:58] <Nikola-Debian> I had some troubles when installing .deb in Ubuntu, is Ubuntu losing it's support of .deb slowly?
[00:59] <iceroot> Nikola-Debian: of course not
[00:59] <blinkin_gremlin> or pointers on how to replicate this in Terminal
[00:59] <iceroot> Nikola-Debian: its based on .deb
[00:59] <BlackCoffee> whats the best program to burn iso images?
[00:59] <tsuna27> when the next ubuntu comes out do the system requirments get higher as they do w/ windows, like do i need a better comp 4 it 2 run as fast?
[02:00] <PhotoJim> tsuna27: gradually, generally, yes.
[02:00] <PhotoJim> tsuna27: although with Linux you have more options about changing the settings to permit it to run well on a more modest machine.
[02:01] <ivair> Boa noite a todos, estou com duas máquinas ligadas, esta conectada (ubuntu), a outra xp em rede, mais não há trafego entre elas nem ping!
[02:01] <tsuna27> photojim: how much ram should i hav 4 the 9.0 version
[02:01] <duvld> If I'm using gnome ubuntu, metacity, with compiz... where should I look for theme's? I assume compiz-themes.org, but they have sections for compiz themes, emerald themes, and metacity themes.  Should all emerald themes work?
[02:01] <Dulichion> anyone know a way to clear previous updates and old kernels?
[02:01] <ivair> alguém pode me ajudar???
[02:01] <glitsj16> tsuna27: evolution never ceases, but you could try one of the "lighterweight" ubuntu's to keep your hardware alive reasonably well
[02:01] <BlackCoffee> hey he's speaking portuguese
[02:01] <PhotoJim> tsuna27: It depends on what you want to do, I recommend a gigabyte.  but more is always good.  you can do ok with less.
[02:02] <tsuna27> these light ubuntus can i still use compiz and custimize the same?
[02:02] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: How about gnome terminal?
[02:02] <glitsj16> tsuna27: yes you can
[02:02] <tsuna27> glitsj16: then y doenst every1 use it
[02:02] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog:  that's what i'm using now, can't quite figure out how to enable the function i want
[02:03] <BlackCoffee> he says he has two machines connectet,one with ubuntu and the other one with xp on a network but there's no traffic or ping between them
[02:03] <PhotoJim> tsuna27: as far as I know, yes.  or you could run an older version, preferably one that is stlil supported with updates.  but a slower system with a good amount of RAM will still do ok.
[02:03] <tsuna27> glitsj16: will it use that ext5 thats extrmemly fast?
[02:03] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: Not sure what you want -- there is a cut and paste function
[02:03] <BlackCoffee> how can he check out what's going on
[02:03] <blinkin_gremlin> to be clear, what i'm trying to replicate is PuTTY's ability to automatically copy to the clipboard what is hilighted (without shift+ctrl+c or some such)
[02:03] <ivair> Is this really ubuntu-br channel ???
[02:03] <duvld> ext5? i thought ext4 was new, and only thing new was bigger hard drive capability, like 100's of terabytes
[02:03] <Hobz> no
[02:04] <BlackCoffee> ivair,eu nao sei,mas estou perguntando pros caras que você pode fazer
[02:04] <Hobz> ubuntu bavaria?
[02:04] <BlackCoffee> nao,e so Ubuntu
[02:04] <BlackCoffee> !ubuntu-br
[02:04] <tsuna27> duvld: o them i mean ext4 the new one that makes start up 2 secs
[02:04] <clearscreen> !english | BlackCoffee
[02:04] <PhotoJim> ubuntu-br will be Brazilian (I presume Portuguese).
[02:04] <digitalchemist> Does anyone know where I could go to figure out how to use a single X screen across two video cards?
[02:04] <Alex_21> When I try "Apt-get -f install" with Sudo of course I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139902/
[02:04] <Alex_21> Any ideas Please
[02:04] <Alex_21> Are appreciated
[02:04] <BlackCoffee> ivair: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:04] <ivair> To me , I see Ubuntu br channel
[02:04] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog:  Putty has the ability to automatically copy to the clipboard anything highlighted in the terminal window
[02:04] <BlackCoffee> dá uma olhada nesse site
[02:04] <Alex_21> It would be helpful
[02:05] <duvld> tsuna27: ah I didn't know, read 1 thing just talked about bigger capacity capability
[02:05] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog:  it then pastes by a single right click
[02:05] <clearscreen> Alex_21: are you running out of disk space?
[02:05] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: Its like the cygwin terminal
[02:05] <Alex_21> Maybe
[02:05] <ivair> Black cooffee, pode me ajudar?
[02:05] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog: yes, i think that's correct
[02:05] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: Do you have a 2 or 3 button mouse
[02:05] <Iceman_B^Ltop> can anyone tell me the big difference between Ubuntu Desktop and Server editions ?
[02:05] <duvld> Anyone know what type of theme's I should try for Ubuntu with compiz? emerald themes - compiz themes - metacity themes???
[02:05] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog: (been awhile since I messed with Cygwin)
[02:06] <Alex_21> But I can't remove packages without getting an error asking me to do the -f with Apt-get.
[02:06] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog: any thoughts?
[02:06] <BlackCoffee> ivair: eu sou novo no ubuntu,nao sei quase nada
[02:06] <digitalchemist> duvld: do you have Emerald installed? If so, try those
[02:06] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: side comment -- cygwin is great -- hence my lack of new info with putty since I havent used in a while
[02:06] <clearscreen> Alex_21: try a "sudo apt-get clean"
[02:06] <BlackCoffee> na realidad,nao sei nada
[02:06] <ivair> Eu tb !
[02:06] <duvld> digitalchemist: yep thx
[02:06] <ivair> e de Ingles tb
[02:06] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: What terminals have you tried?  2 or 3 button mouse?
[02:06] <clearscreen> !english | ivair
[02:06] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: the server edition is optimized for server use, primarily intended not to be used with a graphical user interface, and it defaults to having very little software installed.  as a server admin, you'll generally know what you want, and you can manually install it.
[02:07] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: And which desktop or WM are we talking about?
[02:07] <digitalchemist> duvld: Emerald themes are for window decoration, if that's what you're looking to change
[02:07] <ivair> Thanks Ubontu, for your help
[02:08] <Kevdog> Ubontu is a stinkin bot!
[02:08] <Kevdog> No need to thank a stupid bot!
[02:09] <Alex_21> It still won't let me uninstall anything
[02:09] <Alex_21> It is weird
[02:09] <Iceman_B^Ltop> PhotoJim: Okay. thanks. here is my situation, I'm a relatively new linux user, but Ive dabbled with Ubuntu for a while now. I had a desktop install on a pc which I was primarily using remotely
[02:09] <JorgeJorgesson> How to do a simple search for a filename/directory within my whole file system?
[02:10] <Iceman_B^Ltop> so I almost never need a GUI, but if there is a serious issue, I could use a GUI to help me out
[02:10] <Takagami> when I logged in the channel went 1337... wo0t!
[02:10] <ivair> how can I change to #ubuntu-br channel, my english is so bad ?
[02:10] <Hobz> JorgeJorgesson, whereis [FILE]
[02:10] <digitalchemist> @ivair:   "/join #ubuntu-br"   ?
[02:10] <Hobz> /join #ubuntu-br
[02:10] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: I don't recommend you use a GUI on a server.  better to keep the resources free for actual serving.  the learning curve is steeper but it's manageable.  Desktop, different matter of course.
[02:10] <JorgeJorgesson> Hobz: does it matter where I currently am in my directory structure?
[02:10] <BlackCoffee> isso
[02:10] <bertodsera> Hi! My sound card often becomes unusable and I have to restart the system, which is annoying. Is there a command line thing I can use to restart just the sound?
[02:11] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog: 4 button mouse, GNOME on Ubuntu 8.04 (8.10 gives me initramfs errors), and I've tried Gnome Terminal most recently, and Xterm in the past
[02:11] <Takagami> so I'm trying to tinstall guimup on a MINIMAL openbox install of hardy. Gdebi complains about libcairomm-1.0-1 missing, but I have JUST installed the same version...
[02:11] <Hobz> JorgeJorgesson, it will look through $PATH, I think
[02:11] <ivair> Thanks digitalchimist
[02:11] <Iceman_B^Ltop> PhotoJim: that makes sense. though, im running on a shoddy old Dell Dimension 8200
[02:11] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog:  really haven't branched out as much on terminals as I have on other stuff (like script IDEs and such)
[02:11] <Iceman_B^Ltop> P4 1.6 Ghz and 256 meg of RDram
[02:11] <ivair> I will try
[02:11] <Iceman_B^Ltop> does it matter which version I install ?
[02:11] <digitalchemist> @ivair: no problem
[02:11] <JorgeJorgesson> Hobz: Thanks.  Worked perfectly
[02:12] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: the shoddier, the more you don't want to run a GUI. :) my about-to-be-retired server was a modest PII-333 with 768 MB of RAM, but would have easily run ok with 256M of RAM.  no GUI though.
[02:12] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay
[02:12] <Hobz> np
[02:12] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: depends on what you want to do and how much traffic it will handle, of course.  but a modest machine can do a lot if you don't saddle it with handling a GUI.
[02:12] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay
[02:12] <BlackCoffee> he says he already joined #ubuntu-br but it brought him to #ubuntu
[02:12] <Iceman_B^Ltop> then I'll try a server isntall this time
[02:12] <joetromondo> Hi , how do I moint my external HD?
[02:12] <Iceman_B^Ltop> finally, can I install it from the network(internet) ?
[02:13] <Hobz> well, I"M in #ubuntu-br
[02:13] <Nikola-Debian> Why is Ubuntu so popular?
[02:13] <fbc> is it by design that the amd64 disc will not boot in a core2duo?
[02:13] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: you can, you need a boot CD/DVD to get it started, and it will install some packages off CD but the rest off the Internet.
[02:13] <Takagami> joetromondo: you know what format the external is in?
[02:13] <ivair> I'm liking this channel, i',m learning about Ubuntu and english
[02:13] <BlackCoffee> i was,but nobody said hi...so i just left.
[02:13] <digitalchemist> I just tried to join #ubuntu-br and it worked
[02:13] <Hobz> joetheodd, do dmesg | tail in a console, look for the device, then mkdir /mnt/[DEVICE] then mount /dev/[DEVICE] /mnt/p[DEVICE]
[02:13] <genii> Nikola-Debian: It's an easy to use distribution with a friendly face and decent community support
[02:14] <Iceman_B^Ltop> PhotoJim: by default? what about a via PXE? saves me downloading and burning a cd
[02:14] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ive got this windows laptop to server any files needed
[02:14] <Iceman_B^Ltop> *serve
[02:14] <joetromondo> Takagami: I think it is NTFS
[02:14] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: I've never done an Ubuntu installation that way, so I really don't know.
[02:14] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay
[02:14] <BlackCoffee> so ,anyone knows if there's a stanalone version of seamonkey/netscape/mozilla composer for ubuntu?
[02:15] <iceroot> BlackCoffee: firefox, thunderbird, compozer, lighting?
[02:15] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: unless you have a very slow Internet connection, I recommend you do the traditional installation.
[02:15] <ivair> Urdetuga , do you speak portuguese ?
[02:15] <Flannel> BlackCoffee: "seamonkey" is a package, yes.
[02:15] <BlackCoffee> yeah,i know.but i just want the composer
[02:15] <fbc> is it by design that the amd64 disc will not boot in a core2duo?
[02:15] <BlackCoffee> hence my question
[02:16] <PhotoJim> fbc: the amd64 disc should boot with a Core 2 Duo.
[02:16] <iceroot> BlackCoffee: ist called kompozer if you mean the html editor (earlier called nvu)
[02:16] <BlackCoffee> lemme see
[02:16] <fbc> PhotoJim, What would be the reasons it wouldn't?
[02:17] <BlackCoffee> hoho,there it is....i was seartching "komposer" instead of "kompozer"
[02:17] <PhotoJim> fbc: bad burn?  computer isn't booting off CD properly?
[02:17] <BlackCoffee> thanks iceman
[02:17] <Iceman_B^Ltop> PhotoJim: dont you mean fast?
[02:17] <fbc> Photo ok thanks..
[02:17] <fbc> PhotoJim, thanks
[02:17] <digitalchemist> I've got onboard VGA and a video card with 2-DVI ports... two monitors are connected to the video card via DVI, and they work fine.... however, I can't seem to figure out how to get the onboard VGA to display... how could I get both devices to act as a single screen?
[02:17] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: no, I said I recommend a standard CD-based installation, *unless* your Internet connection is very slow.
[02:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh
[02:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> to download the image
[02:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> right
[02:18] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: you can still download it on a slow connection.  but it will take a long time.  if your connection is that slow, best to order a CD, or have a friend burn you one.
[02:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> nah thats not the issue
[02:18] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: I have a modest broadband connection and it only takes a few minutes for me to download an image.
[02:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> its more that I dont wanna burn a cd :)
[02:19] <joetromondo> Can any one help me mount my external USB drive which I think is a NTFS hardrive?
[02:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> since I'll probably only use it once
[02:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but meh
[02:19] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: ret some rewriteables, then you don't have to waste the disc.
[02:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> i;ll go with what you suggested
[02:19] <BlackCoffee> man i hate KDE!
[02:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I have bad experiences with burnig ISO's to cdrw's
[02:19] <BlackCoffee> reminds me of windows!
[02:19] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: I have booted off rewriteables many times.  just get good ones.  the best ones are the old, slow, 4x ones.  take longer to burn, but they tend to work a lot more reliably.
[02:20] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: and you can still buy them.  some burners don't support any faster than 4x for rewriteables.
[02:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> the problem is that I cant erase them afterwards
[02:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I can when I just burn data to them
[02:20] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: then you possibly have a bad burner.  CD-RWs should be useable a hundred times or more if you take care of them.
[02:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I know its physically possible, but once I burn an ISO image to a cdrw, I cant delete it
[02:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> in all other cases its fine
[02:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but I'll grab a cdr
[02:21] <puff> So, with ubuntu booting off a flash drive, how do I save stuff between boots?
[02:22] <CaptainMorgan> !sendmail
[02:22] <puff> Does it just automatically save settings changes and/or /home stuff?
[02:22] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: that's a software issue, or a burner issue.  there is nothing inherently different about burning a data CD-RW versus burning an .iso image to CD-RW.
[02:22] <R0b0t1> How can I install the latest Nautilus versions from apt-get or synaptic?
[02:23] <teh_pwnzor> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:23] <chuy_max> !kernel
[02:24] <R0b0t1> teh_pwnzor: Well, sorry to not mention it, but I mean "unstable" releases, etc.
[02:24] <chubby> hai
[02:24] <BlackCoffee> ladies and gentleman!chubby!
[02:25] <glitsj16> puff: if you mean session info, that should be under $HOME/.cache/sessions
[02:25] <spydon> Is there any good utility that monitors your browsing? Like sees which javascripts are executed and so on?
[02:25] <glitsj16> spydon: the firebug addon for firefox is one option
[02:25] <spydon> glitsj16, is it easy to use? :)
[02:26] <VioletsPie> upgrading to jaunty
[02:26] <VioletsPie> hoorah
[02:26] <Guest2309> hi ,everyoe
[02:26] <glitsj16> spydon: i'm not a programmer and i can use it yes, it helps if you're able to read javascript, html and css etc of course
[02:27] <ishmandoorebop> i want to make a launcher to quickly play a sound, any ideas?
[02:27] <spydon> glitsj16, then its perfect, thx :)
[02:28] <fbc> My screen goes blank after I choose Install on the amd64 alt CD. Is there anyway to make if choose a different video mode, like vga maybe?
[02:28] <duvld> no answer on #compiz-fusion yet: I have ubuntu, compiz, and emerald theme manager. I just downloaded and loaded an emerald theme in emerald theme manager, but it's not applying.  In CompizConfig Settings Manager, Windows Decorations points to /usr/bin/compiz-decorator, should this be pointing to emerald or what do I have to do to use emerald theme manager?
[02:29] <glitsj16> spydon: you're welcome, by the way, it has great documentation --> http://getfirebug.com/
[02:29] <ishmandoorebop> does anyone know how i can have a launcher play a short sound?
[02:29] <glitsj16> duvld: point it to emerald yes
[02:30] <duvld> glitsj16: ok must need restart, thx
[02:30] <fbc> My screen goes blank after I choose Install on the amd64 alt CD. Is there anyway to make if choose a different video mode, like vga maybe?
[02:30] <clearscreen> !repeat | fbc
[02:30] <clearscreen> fbc: hit ctrl + alt + f2
[02:30] <clearscreen> that'll take you to TT2 (a shell you can work in)
[02:31] <clearscreen> if you have an nvidia card, you're going to want to install some nvidia driver like 'nvidia-glx-177' and run the 'nvidia-xconfig' tool
[02:31] <fbc> clearscreen, and it will just automatically continue the instal in the new session?
[02:31] <pur3> any1 who can translate 1 hungarian word for me ?
[02:31] <clearscreen> oh, you're still installing?
[02:31] <glitsj16> ishmandoorebop: you could use a shell script with the launcher to do that yes, if you have pulseaudio it could be as simple as "paplay /full/path/to/audio/file" in combination with your other commands
[02:31] <ishmandoorebop> can people see my questions at all?
[02:32] <teh_pwnzor> 1337
[02:32] <ishmandoorebop> will that launch a program or just play it?
[02:32] <Flannel> ishmandoorebop: Just make the launcher do the following: [make sound];[launch program]
[02:32] <fbc> clearscreen, yeah,, I put my disc in and click english, then install and then a blank screen and nothing for a long time until reboot.
[02:33] <glitsj16> ishmandoorebop: the script will do whatever you write into it yes, so it can do both (in fact playing audio is also launching an application)
[02:33] <fbc> clearscreen, I'm thinking it must be a video mode conflict of something.
[02:33] <Jason2gs> Hi guys. I'm currently using Gutsy Gibbon, but a friend recently asked me if I was going to upgrade to Jaunty when it comes out. I told him that I was still behind the current distro. Question is, is there a big advantage to upgrading whenever a new distribution is released, or is there anything that I can get from a new distribution that I can't get from synaptic, etc.?
[02:34] <ishmandoorebop> Flannel: what does that mean?
[02:34] <ishmandoorebop> glitzj16: how do i start writing a script
[02:34] <Flannel> ishmandoorebop: On the command line, you can do command1;command2 and that will execute command1 and then command2
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> Jason2gs: Check the release notes for new versions.  If you see something you want, upgrade.  If you don't care, don't.
[02:35] <BobTheBlueBerry> Jason2gs: You don't get very good updates with older versions (e.g. old Pidgin version in repository).
[02:35] <clearscreen> Jason2gs: most software on the 8.04 repositories are almost a year old, it's definitely worth upgrading if you can afford to run a beta version
[02:35] <ishmandoorebop> Flannel: what is [make sound]
[02:35] <BobTheBlueBerry> Jason2gs: I wouldn't install Junty yet, it's quite unstable.
[02:35] <ishmandoorebop> and what would i have to do to start writing a script?
[02:36] <unop> ishmandoorebop, a script is just a text file with commands in it .. so any editor that can save text as a text file will be a first start
[02:36] <BobTheBlueBerry> YEAY!!!!!!!
[02:36] <clearscreen> BobTheBlueBerry: i've been running jaunty for about 2 weeks now, no stability issues what so ever.. so I suppose 'quite unstable' is really subjective
[02:36] <Jason2gs> Thank you guys.
[02:36] <BobTheBlueBerry> oh. oops...
[02:37] <Jason2gs> tongueroo, BobTheBlueBerry, clearscreen: Thank you.
[02:37] <ishmandoorebop> okay, so what commands should i use? what would play a sound quickly without loading a visual program?
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> clearscreen: well, if you use python for anything it's been broken for a few days...  And it could decide not to boot at any time.  :P
[02:37] <glitsj16> ishmandoorebop: take Flannel's advice on this one, if you want to get a view on writing shell scripts, ubuntu has a package called abs-guide (advanced bash scripting guide)
[02:37] <djcip> hey - trying to get my Fujitsu Tablet 5010 to work with the jaunty  - so far everything is supported except for my wacom tablet screen - how can i enable the pen functionality?
[02:37] <BobTheBlueBerry> I blacklisted intel_agp and Ubuntu doesn't freeze on boot!
[02:37] <clearscreen> tonyyarusso: I don't use python, I use real men's languages! mahahaha
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> djcip: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty support
[02:38] <jedimind> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qaQ_3YyTx0
[02:38] <jedimind> err
[02:38] <jedimind> wrong channel, sorry
[02:38] <ishmandoorebop> Flannel: what commands should i use? what would play a sound quickly without loading a visual program?
[02:38] <FloodBot1> jedimind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:38] <unop> ishmandoorebop,  aplay /path/to/audio_file
[02:39] <iceroot> i need a tool (http) so analyse traffic from apache
[02:39] <chotaz> jklock: there?
[02:39] <iceroot> something like webalizer
[02:39] <unop> iceroot, apache has mod_status
[02:39] <slimjim> has anyone here been able to succesfully get windows live mail to work with evo or tbird. like how it words with outlook. I have finaly had it with windows and ahve been running 8.10 for the weekor so and only 8.10 no M$ what i want to know tho is i hate having to goto there web page, i rather have a email client like evo or tbird to get my mail. anyone have any ideas
[02:40] <iceroot> unop: ok i will have a look at it
[02:40] <matt__> What is a really good cd ripper? I want something to rip to good quality cbr 320 mp3
[02:40] <Flannel> slimjim: Only old hotmail accounts have POP support, but there are things available that'll allow you to do it (basically, it scrapes the webpages).  Here's some choices: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hotmail&searchon=all&suite=intrepid&section=all
[02:41] <matt__> slipstenen: Go gmail?
[02:41] <save77_> need some help dual booting xp & ubuntu.  in installed xp first and then installed ubuntu and now it doesn't show xp as an option.....only option is ubuntu
[02:41] <ishmandoorebop> what files does aplay use?
[02:41] <Flannel> save77_: Alright.  Please pastebin the output of `sudo fdisk -l` (that's a lowercase L)
[02:42] <franklinR> @matt__ I take it you've tried Sound Juicer?
[02:43] <save77_> Disk /dev/sda: 60.0 GB, 60022480896 bytes
[02:43] <save77_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7297 cylinders
[02:43] <save77_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[02:43] <save77_> Disk identifier: 0x082f082e
[02:43] <save77_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:43] <FloodBot1> save77_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <save77_> /dev/sda1   *           1        4398    35326903+  83  Linux
[02:43] <Flannel> !pastebin | save77_
[02:43] <slimjim> i would go gmail but have tons of people who are already emailing me at my live account
[02:43] <slimjim> and i use it for work
[02:43] <slimjim> Flannel i knew about those i need something to read to show me how to config them
[02:44] <save77_> sorry...new to irc
[02:44] <Flannel> save77_: It's alright.
[02:44] <ishmandoorebop> how do you use aplay? what kind of files does it play?
[02:44] <duvld> Still having trouble using emerald theme.  to anyone - I am 99% sure I have everthing installed - I d/l emerald theme import to emerald theme manager although it does not seem to be selected(even though it's the only theme).  In CompizConfig Settings Manager under Window Decoration I changed "command" to "/usr/bin/emerald"(the command is there).  What is it I have to do to use the theme? What else can I try? I don't see a w
[02:44] <duvld> ay to "deactivate" human theme in "appearance".  Unchecking Window Decoration in Compiz Config does make title bar disappear, so compiz must be controlling it...???
[02:44] <Flannel> slimjim: Try this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/send-and-receive-your-hotmail-messages-through-evolution.html
[02:44] <largeprime> greetings all.  trying ubuntu on a zd8000.  got no nic or wireless.
[02:46] <duvld> single/double clicking theme in emerald only selects the theme, next Emerald-theme-manager restart it's unselected
[02:46] <slimjim> Flannel thank man i will give that a try and see what comes of it.
[02:46] <ishmandoorebop> does anyone know how to solve the following error: aplay -t wav /home/ben/Desktop/rimshot.wav
[02:46] <ishmandoorebop> aplay: test_wavefile:782: can't play WAVE-file format 0x0055 which is not PCM or FLOAT encoded
[02:47] <largeprime> google says this is a known issue.  any ideas how to fix?
[02:47] <Flannel> save77_: If you wouldn't mind pastingthat again to pastebin, the channel blocked a lot of it.
[02:48] <Jhs> hi. does anyone know where/how i can find drivers for an Acer Aspire T136? website only has windows drivers.
[02:49] <franklinR> @jhs What kind of drivers do you need?
[02:49] <djcip> i'm running ubuntu on my Fujitsu 5010 - its a tablet pc - i'm trying to get the wacom drivers to work - lspci doesn't show that my tablet is installed - can someone help?
[02:49] <Flannel> save77_: Is that all of it?  Your second harddrive should likely have at least one partition.
[02:50] <sveakex> can i run .bat files on linux?`
[02:50] <Iceman_B^Ltop> whats the best FS to use on a server system ?
[02:50] <scream> Where is the boot log located... for example... the messages behind the splash screen on boot?
[02:50] <sveakex> or do i have to translate them to bash
[02:51] <h00k> sveakex, you would have to translate into bash
[02:51] <sveakex> h00k: ok, but that is not a problem, thanks :)
[02:51] <PhotoJim> scream: type dmesg at a console, or cat /var/log/dmesg
[02:51] <scream> k
[02:52] <franklinR> Iceman_B^Ltop: I'd go with EXT3, but I'm not an expert in any sense
[02:52] <glitchd> how come kde wont connect to wireless after suspend??
[02:53] <BobTheBlueBerry> glitchd: you'll find half your hardware doesn't work after suspend.
[02:53] <teh_pwnzor> because kde sucks. use openbox
[02:53] <h00k> Iceman_B^Ltop, ext3 is great because it has journaling, if you lose  power or something, it should help not losing data
[02:53] <clearscreen> lol
[02:53] <glitchd> whats open box?
[02:53] <Flannel> save77_: Talking in the channel is easier, actually.  Ok, well, if that's all of it...  You don't have Windows installed at all.  I have no idea why your second harddrive is entirely empty.
[02:54] <h00k> glitchd, openbox is another window manager
[02:54] <h00k> !openbox | glitchd
[02:54] <zaccour> how do i find out what my subnet mask is?
[02:54] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: yes, ext3 strongly recommended over ext2.  it runs well even on very old systems.  I have ext3 on a 486sx25..  not much of a noticeable difference in performance.
[02:54] <save77_> alright i guess i'll reformat that partition and install xp again
[02:54] <glitchd> i jus installed kde
[02:54] <BlackCoffee> has anyone used lindows?
[02:55]  * j0n0 slaps franklinR around a bit with a large trout
[02:55] <glitchd> i use ubuntu as my regular window manager
[02:55] <h00k> BlackCoffee, lindows has since been renamed, its now linspire
[02:55] <franklinR> zaccour: your subnet mask should appear in the second line of ifconfig ( Mask: )
[02:55] <glitchd> or gnome i guess u could say
[02:55] <BlackCoffee> oh
[02:55] <BlackCoffee> and have you used it?
[02:55] <LjL> j0n0: that seemed random. please stick to the channel topic
[02:55] <largeprime> greetings all.  trying ubuntu on a zd8000.  got no nic or wireless after install.  any help
[02:55] <cman> how can i record me screen in ubuntu? like make a video?
[02:55] <BlackCoffee> i just wanna know if it can actually run windows based apps?
[02:55] <h00k> BlackCoffee, no, I have not
[02:56] <BlackCoffee> thing is i have only ubuntu,but my kid wan't something where he can run games and windows stuffs
[02:56] <zaccour> franklinR, thats my ip
[02:56] <glitchd> anyone know how to fix the connect after suspend?
[02:56] <largeprime> blackcoffee google wine
[02:56] <BlackCoffee> yeah,i have that
[02:56] <BlackCoffee> wine
[02:56] <BlackCoffee> but can't get it to work with some apps
[02:56] <Hobz> BlackCoffee, have you considered virtual machines?
[02:56] <franklinR> Your subnet mask should appear in the ifconfig output as well - as an example, mine is 255.255.255.0
[02:57] <BlackCoffee> i'm kind of a lamo...if you know what i mean
[02:57] <PhotoJim> BlackCoffee: Tell your kid to get and maintain his own machine ;)
[02:57] <franklinR> zaccour: Your subnet mask should appear in the ifconfig output as well - as an example, mine is 255.255.255.0
[02:57] <BlackCoffee> LOL he's 12
[02:57] <zaccour> franklinR, maybe i dont have a subnet mask
[02:57] <glitchd> can anyone tell me how to get kde to connect after resume?
[02:57] <h00k> BlackCoffee, perhaps check if there are any alternative applications to run what they are used to
[02:57] <PhotoJim> BlackCoffee: Seriously, you could get him a modest machine with Windows.  good incentive for him to learn how to maintain a system.  it's doable at 12.
[02:58] <zaccour> franklinR, oh i see it, thanks
[02:58] <franklinR> zaccour: no problem. Glad I could help
[02:58] <BlackCoffee> i was thinking about buying him a pentium 4,but as a birthday present...that would be on october though
[02:59] <BlackCoffee> i was going to install winxp along with ubuntu,but restoring grub seems like a pain in the arse
[02:59] <BobTheBlueBerry> Thankyou people here at the IRC by blacklisting intel_agp I got it to work! Only took 5-8 hours
[02:59] <Schmick> BlackCoffee: 12 yrold are good or better than most adults in building their own machine.. trust me.. I made my first circuit at 8.
[02:59] <chuy_max> hey guys, how do I find out if a kernel is integrated in a kernel, or if it is a module?
[02:59] <zaccour> franklinR, how do i know if i have a secondary dns or not?
[03:00] <BlackCoffee> at 8!
[03:00] <Schmick> yep... first digital circuit at 8, first computer (chip by chip) at 11.. so don't underestimate a 12 yr old. :P
[03:01] <BlackCoffee> i guess i'l just install xp with ubuntu before i buy him his pc
[03:01] <Flannel> !grub | BlackCoffee
[03:01] <Schmick> they are not scared of doing challenging stuff.
[03:01] <Flannel> BlackCoffee: First link.  Restoring GRUB is fairly easy and straight forward
[03:01] <BlackCoffee> i'll give it a read
[03:01] <franklinR> zaccour: try the command 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' - if there is more than one 'nameserver' entry, your secondary DNS should be set up
[03:01] <BlackCoffee> but like i said,i'm a pretty lame computer user lol
[03:02] <largeprime> trying ubuntu 8.10 on a zd8000.  got no nic or wireless after install.  any help?
[03:02] <scarby> Hey folks
[03:02] <BlackCoffee> i can f*ck up just about anything on a computer
[03:02] <Iceman_B^Ltop> damn you, DST
[03:02] <Schmick> lol.. np BlackCoffee ..your 12 yr old will explain everything.. :P
[03:02] <Flannel> BlackCoffee: Obfuscated swearing still is.  Please refrain.
[03:02] <Iceman_B^Ltop> you ate an hour of my time !
[03:02] <clearscreen> eh.. did my ubuntu time screw up or did the clock just advance 1 hour
[03:02] <scarby> anyone know what prog to burn a .mpg file to DVD disc? k3b won't have it :S
[03:02] <stormchas2000> i have my brother on the phone, he has compac he has xp on it,  he tried to dual boot. but when he rebooted windows comes up,  no grub loader
[03:02] <iceroot> clearscreen: its normal
[03:02] <scarby> clocks go forward an hour tonight due
[03:03] <BlackCoffee> Flannel: i will tell god to smite me first thing tomorrow morning
[03:03] <iceroot> clearscreen: its called sumertime here
[03:03] <BlackCoffee> :)
[03:03] <scarby> dude*
[03:03] <clearscreen> ah, didnt know :P
[03:03] <zaccour> is nameserver my dns?
[03:03] <iceroot> zaccour: its the dns you are using
[03:03] <franklinR> zaccour: nameserver is indeed dns
[03:04] <BlackCoffee> ok people,i think i've learned enough here today.my brain is already hurting.thanks for all the valuable infos.
[03:04] <zaccour> ok thanks
[03:04] <BlackCoffee> bye
[03:04] <Treybuchet> well...
[03:04] <Treybuchet> that was odd
[03:04] <Treybuchet> my metacity just
[03:04] <clearscreen> dns = domain name server :P
[03:04] <Treybuchet> freaked out
[03:04] <clearscreen> or service
[03:04] <FloodBot1> Treybuchet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:04] <clearscreen> not sure
[03:04] <joetromondo> When I play any video here, it is not showing the propper colors, I dont believe is a Codec thing because it some times works fine
[03:04] <iceroot> is there a security-problem to run this public to all? http://alpha-unix.de/status
[03:05] <stormchas2000> any help
[03:05] <largeprime> trying ubuntu 8.10 on a zd8000.  got no nic or wireless after install.  any help?
[03:05] <franklinR> stormchas2000: did your brother install Linux, then Windows?
[03:06] <scarby> anyone know which program burns .mpg to DVD discs? (for playing in a home DVD player)? thanks
[03:06] <david13> What do you think would be the simplest way to backup a laptop on a cifs filesystem?
[03:06] <stormchas2000> franklinr he had xp then wanted to dual boot ubuntu 8.10
[03:06] <iceroot> scarby: k3b with plugins i think
[03:06] <stormchas2000> so he had xp first
[03:06] <Schmick> some notebooks come with an Atheros wireless.. Atheros support comes with backports.
[03:06] <scarby> i was trying with k3b, i thought i had the plugins.. i'll double check though, thanks :)
[03:06] <Schmick> google for Atheros ubuntu for instructions on how to enable it.
[03:07] <kevin_zhong> hello! I just installed Ubuntu, everything is updated. I have an nvidia geforce4 MX card, and all I can get for resolution is 800x600, is there  anything I can do?
[03:07] <slimjim> can anyone here help me with my firefox, i did something with a theme and scripts reverted back but when i goto goole and some other sites were the txt should be it is dark grey back with black text and is almost impossiable to read can anyone help me with this.
[03:07] <david13> I have a 1TB network drives accessible only through smb
[03:07] <gaintsura> has anyone used quicksynergy before? or synergy in general?
[03:07] <Torhal> Is there any way to get my hard drive to stop thrashing with Ibex? I have 6GB RAM, and somehow I only have 482,604k free...and the drive sounds like it's constantly paging.
[03:07] <iceroot> !anyone | gaintsura
[03:07] <Schmick> kevin_zhong: check if you have enabled the propietary drivers in system hardware for your card.
[03:07] <scarby> kevin_zhong System/Administration/Hardware Drivers
[03:08] <scarby> damn, beat me
[03:08] <scarby> :D
[03:08] <kevin_zhong> i did, and it downloaded and just made it smaller :(
[03:08] <Schmick> lol
[03:08] <franklinR> stormchas2000: That seems a little strange. Did your brother tell the installer during install that he wanted to dual boot? (I have little knowledge regarding dual-booting, I have no use for it).
[03:08] <PhotoJim> Torhal: are you using a 64-bit version of Ubuntu?  If not, you are probably only using 4 GB of your RAM.
[03:08] <david13> who has the athros card that doesn't work?
[03:08] <gaintsura> iceroot: that really was supposed to be a generalized question... it was kind of a poll/who has used it. Most people, when asked about something will tell you more than you ask for =)
[03:08] <Torhal> PhotoJim: I am. Quad-core Phenom.
[03:08] <gaintsura> david13: ar500*EG?
[03:08] <david13> I had to compile some source code to get the ar 5006 to work
[03:08] <gaintsura> or ar242X
[03:08] <mastershake> whooooo!
[03:08] <PhotoJim> Torhal: 32-bit Linux (and Windows too) won't support more than 4 GB of RAM.
[03:08] <mastershake> first time ubuntu user!
[03:08] <eseven73> gaintsura: polls are a no no here
[03:08] <mastershake> just got installed!
[03:08] <david13> gaintsura: You'll need to compile the module yourself.
[03:08] <mastershake> <--- noob
[03:08] <FloodBot1> mastershake: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:09] <mastershake> sorry floodbot
[03:09] <gaintsura> eseven73: uhg, you missed what I meant...
[03:09] <Torhal> PhotoJim: I'm using the 64-bit version
[03:09] <david13> gaintsura: let me see if I can find the name of the source code
[03:09] <stormchas2000> franklinr  he says it did not ask he only adjusted the partitaion
[03:09] <gaintsura> david13: indeed, using either madwifi or ndiswrapper
[03:09] <PhotoJim> Torhal: oh, ok.  and good.  not sure why you have the disk space issue.
[03:09] <eseven73> gaintsura:  lol sorry :)
[03:09] <Torhal> PhotoJim: Mem:   5345616k total,  4863012k used,   482604k free,   114824k buffers
[03:09] <kevin_zhong> anybody have an idea on how I can get my screen resolution working?
[03:09] <Torhal> PhotoJim: All I'm running at the moment is Firefox and XChat
[03:09] <david13> gaintsura: madwifi works but not the modules with ubuntu need to compile...
[03:09] <iceroot> PhotoJim: linux 32bit support more then 4gb ram, but not more then 4gb ram for 1 prozess (motherboard must support this option)
[03:09] <gaintsura> eseven73: np =) it was an app that I read about on lifehacker, but I want to see more info on it
[03:10] <gaintsura> david13: install backports?
[03:10] <PhotoJim> Torhal: open a shell and type "free" and then type "vmstat" after that.  it'll give some information as to memory usage.
[03:10] <kevin_zhong> anyone?
[03:10] <PhotoJim> ice	 yup, 32-bit > 4GB is kludgy.  I was oversimplifying.
[03:10] <david13> gaintsura: no there is a tarball I used
[03:10] <largeprime> how can i tell which nic i have in my machine in ubuntu?
[03:10] <franklinR> stormchas2000: So he definitely did an install after he adjusted the partition?
[03:10] <scarby> sorry Kev, I'm just a beginner myself. :)
[03:10] <gaintsura> david13: yeah, most kernels need the backports modules and build essential installed at the minimum
[03:10] <kevin_zhong> :)
[03:10] <Excell> kevin_zhong:  did you install nvidia settings manager from synap?
[03:11] <david13> I couldn't get any of the backports to work.  I installed build essentials and the kernel headers...
[03:11] <kevin_zhong> i dont think so, how do I do that?
[03:11] <eseven73> largeprime: maybe lspci
[03:11] <david13> I compiled the module myself
[03:11] <Torhal> PhotoJim: Ok
[03:11] <kevin_zhong> I downloaded the drivrs manually, but the encoding to open it wasn't available
[03:11] <stormchas2000> franklin   yes it is there and he can see it he just can not get ubuntu to load up
[03:11] <kne> hello there
[03:11] <Excell> sys/admin/synap...search/nvidia
[03:11] <david13> It worked.  But I can't remember the name need to do a find
[03:11] <kne> i need help configuring port forwarding for my ps3 under ubuntu with firestarter
[03:12] <david13> I am using a wireless N usb adapter now
[03:12] <kne> some1 can help me?
[03:12] <kevin_zhong> ok....
[03:12] <alma> rrrrjkjrklejsyhtr
[03:12] <largeprime> lspci?  thanks i'll google that
[03:12] <alma> htrjhkkjjjjjlikkk
[03:12] <alma> gcjjhgkkkkkkkkkxstttttttttttttttttttttt
[03:12] <eseven73> alma please stop that
[03:12] <franklinR> stormchas2000: Hmm, that really does seem strange - GRUB should be installed by default (I think). It would seem this is a little out of my depth. Sorry.
[03:12] <gaintsura> david13: have you blacklisted the right module and  either rebooted or modprobed ath_pci ?
[03:13] <Torhal> Feh. Drive is just churning constantly. It did the same thing when I only had 2GB physical RAM, no idea why the hell it's so greedy that it eats 5.5GB RAM.
[03:13] <david13> Yeah I had to blacklist the ath modules.
[03:13] <stormchas2000> franklin   ok well we went to the forums and tried to load grub   but still it doaes not seam to take,   unsure how to help him
[03:14] <eseven73> Torhal: try looking in htop......sudo apt-get install htop       then just type htop in a terminal
[03:14] <basti> stormchas2000, xp overwrites grub when installed after ubuntu, so you have to reinstall grub using a live cd
[03:14] <Torhal> eseven73: Danke, trying now.
[03:14] <largeprime> ok my nic is a Realtek 8139
[03:14] <sagredo> does anyone know how to force mplayer to use a specific resolution to output video?
[03:14] <stormchas2000> basti   xp was on there first then ubuntu was installed second
[03:15] <gaintsura> david13: sudo modprobe -r ath_pci && sudo modprobe ath_pci ?
[03:15] <gaintsura> and did you disable the restricted driver (if any?)
[03:15] <largeprime> should not ubuntu understand this hardware?
[03:15] <basti> stormchas2000, well then maybe he didnt install grub - just reinstall it
[03:15] <VioletsPie> wow jaunty's resolution is so much better on my laptop
[03:15] <Torhal> eseven73: Heh, Swap is 5MB/2188MB, so I dunno why the drive sounds like it's paging like mad. Makes sense as to why it's using almost all physical RAM, though.
[03:15] <stormchas2000> basti  we did sudo grub
[03:16] <mercutio22> I am trying to share a folder between two ubuntu pcs. I right click on the folder icon in nautilus and share it, but I get an error message in the the pc trying to access it saying "failed to retrieve share list from server". What can I do?
[03:16] <dublisk> hey all, I'm trying to get internet to work, ifconfig does not show eth0, and neither does system->admin->network, what should I look at
[03:16] <david13> gaintsura: I had to compile the new module... erase the old before I did a make install on the source code
[03:16] <stormchas2000> !grub
[03:16] <largeprime> perhaps ubuntu is confused?
[03:16] <eseven73> Torhal: it should list the process that is hoggin everything up
[03:17] <basti> stormchas2000, read restoregrub
[03:17] <david13> gaintsura: I blacklisted the other module ath_5k something and then I think it picked up the compiled module
[03:17] <eseven73> Torhal:  i bet its trackerd
[03:17] <calc> komputes: ping
[03:17] <marqueed> what is the difference between aptitude install and apt-get
[03:17] <puff> Hm, I'm having trouble burning an iso.
[03:17] <david13> I still have the source code I downloaded somewhere...  if you give me a second I'll tell you the tarball name
[03:18] <marqueed> puff: be more specific?
[03:18] <Flannel> marqueed: There isn't much difference anymore.  Feel free to use whichever you prefer.  Aptitude provides a GUI if you run it without arguments.
[03:18] <puff> I follow the instructions here for burning from ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:18] <eseven73> marqueed: if you just type aptitude you'll see one difference right away
[03:18] <david13> I am used to running kde, so I need to figure out how to find a file with the gui
[03:18] <Platypus-Man> I'm trying to use remote desktop between my HTPC and my normal PC, and found this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-remote-desktop-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html - but I can't connect because the field where I type in the password doesn't come up
[03:18] <puff> And I get: "there was an error writing to the disc"
[03:18] <david13> scince I can't tell where gnome mounts a smb filesystem via nautilus
[03:18] <erds> Hi all
[03:19] <marqueed> Flannel: anymore? what was the difference?
[03:19] <marqueed> david13: it's somewhere weird in .gnome-vfs, i think
[03:19] <marqueed> ~/.gnome-vfs/
[03:19] <david13> Yeah it is weird.
[03:19] <marqueed> hrmmm, i may have lied
[03:19] <Flannel> marqueed: Removal of unused dependencies, basically.
[03:19] <marqueed> .gvfs, sorry
[03:20] <FoolsRun> not really this channel's field, but does anyone know python? I'm editing a script and am stuck --can't get into #python because I can't get IDENTD going.
[03:20] <david13> I found it
[03:20] <puff> So then I tried the command line burning instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning and got http://paste.ubuntu.com/139947/
[03:20] <david13> running find in a console
[03:20] <Hydrant> How can I find the current working directory for a process?  I have a mystery process and I want to find where the binary is
[03:20] <Flannel> FoolsRun: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:20] <Hydrant> ps -eaf doesn't give me the current working directory
[03:20] <FoolsRun> Flannel: thanks
[03:20] <marqueed> FoolsRun: i can help, probably
[03:20] <doink1212> Can VLC player use the .ds2 format? It is specific to Olympus Voice Recorders and I am shopping...
[03:21] <david13> "madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-current.tar.gz" is the name of the tarball... I had a hell of a time finding it.
[03:21] <david13> It's somewhere on the madwifi site
[03:21] <david13> Worked for me
[03:21] <Hobz> The audio doesn't work in VLC.  I've tried removing audiopulse and switching to the OSS and ALSA modules, but no luck.  Any idea what else i can do?
[03:22] <david13> Hobz: Pray
[03:22] <marqueed> Hobz: install the extra audo plugins
[03:22] <Hobz> david13, I was thinking sacrifice
[03:22] <marqueed> Hobz: vlc-plugin-pulse
[03:22] <erds> does anyone know a good how-to for make the macbook pro unibody's trackpad working good ?
[03:22] <Hobz> marqueed, I tried that before removing pulseaudio, no go
[03:23] <erds> (on jaunty)
[03:23] <dublisk> Hi all, I cant get ethernet to work, cant find anything about eth0 : I've posted some more info here http://codepad.org/35oMUD0L  any help is appreciated
[03:23] <doink1212> Does .ds2 format work in VLC?
[03:23] <eseven73> hobz try sudo alsa force-reload
[03:23] <marqueed> Hobz: anything in the vlc logs?
[03:23] <Hobz> haven't tried those
[03:23] <Hobz> hang on
[03:23] <eseven73> hobz then in sound settings make sure everything is on Alsa
[03:23] <jnsears>  /join #easypeasy
[03:23] <Hobz> marqueed, where would I find those?
[03:23] <marqueed> Tools > Messages
[03:24] <puff> marqueed: Any suggestions?
[03:24] <puff> marqueed: MD5 sum matches. Hm.
[03:24] <largeprime> ok so why cant ubuntu use my realtec8139 nic?
[03:24] <gartral> why does a middle click on an icon act like a double click, furthermore, how do i turn that off?
[03:25] <david13> No one in offtopic
[03:25] <david13> ]bummer
[03:25] <Torhal> eseven73: Could it be this?
[03:25] <Torhal> eseven73: Gah
[03:26] <Torhal> COpy/paste didn't work
[03:26] <valman> How to connect to the Internet at Ubuntu (wifi)
[03:26] <eseven73> Torhal: dont paste it here, use paste.ubuntu.com
[03:26] <puff> So I used usb-creator and that sets up a usb drive to effectively run the liveCD iso from the USB drive, and also keep persistent data on the USB drive.
[03:26] <Torhal> 29:32.47 /usr/bin/pulseaudio -D --log-target-syslog
[03:26] <subsume> How can one remap the space-bar without a space-bar? =)
[03:26] <Torhal> eseven73: One line, or I would use a pasty
[03:26] <maximo_> !time
[03:26] <marqueed> puff: i'm not much of an expert on this, sorry
[03:26] <bah> It is now Saturday March 28 2009 10:26:42 PM UTC-4 (EDT). (24 hour time is 22:26:42). 1238293602 seconds since 00:00:00 UTC, January 1, 1970. (Not counting leap seconds.)
[03:26] <Platypus-Man> I'm trying to use remote desktop between my HTPC and my normal PC, and found this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-remote-desktop-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html - but I can't connect because the field where I type in the password doesn't come up.
[03:27] <puff> However, I've seen mention of actually installing ubuntu on the USB drive, not as a live CD but as a regular install.  But I've also seen forum posts saying "that's bad" but not really explaining why it's bad.  Anyone know?
[03:27] <segin> puff: Flash drives are generally slow in terms of I/O.
[03:27] <puff> segin: So how is that different from running the live CD off the flash drive?
[03:27] <segin> puff: Also, it can be hard to pin down the /dev node for the flash drive. It can change between boots.
[03:27] <kne> i need help configuring port forwarding for my ps3 under ubuntu with firestarter or iptables can someone help me?
[03:28] <segin> puff: IIRC, the full install caches the devnode, the LiveCD scans for it
[03:28] <puff> Ah-hah... hm.
[03:28] <suwei> help
[03:28] <segin> puff: You could have two drives plugged in
[03:28] <eseven73> Torhal: just going by that im not sure,..
[03:28] <puff> Sounds like somebody oughta develop an in-between version where it's a full install that scans.
[03:28] <segin> puff: Your boot drive could move from /dev/sda to /dev/sdb and would break booting
[03:29] <puff> Hm, that's interesting.  I just tried to change a user password with passwd, mistyped the password the second time,so it failed, but the last line of output from passwd was "password updated successfully".
[03:29] <Torhal> eseven73: Alrighty. Nothing is using excessive CPU, and I'm only using 5MB swap...that had the highest CPU time overall and it is writing to syslog so it was a guess.
[03:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> holy crap, NTFS move operations between a single harddrive are.....slow
[03:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> :/
[03:29] <eseven73> Torhal: under cpu% you'll see a list, the hoggier ones at the top
[03:29] <marqueed> puff: i think it always says that
[03:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> 5-6 MB/
[03:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> s
[03:30] <marqueed> i lied
[03:30] <puff> marqueed: Time to get all inigo montoya on them.
[03:30] <Torhal> eseven73: Yah, I know top...only reason I'm here is I'm going nuts. My drive is making thrashing sounds for no reason :)
[03:30] <Torhal> Either Ubuntu is doing something really weird or the bastard is about to die.
[03:30] <marqueed> Torhal: could it have something to do with the hdparm "bug" from awhile back?
[03:30] <Torhal> I'm hoping that it's not the latter,.
[03:30] <Torhal> Dunno...didn't investigate that, thankye.
[03:31] <eseven73> Torhal: you could temporarly disable swap sudo swapoff -a            and see if that helps
[03:31] <marqueed> are you on a laptop - there was previously a problem with bad default settings, causing the drive to try to park too quickly and have to spin up again
[03:31] <Torhal> marqueed: Nope. Desktop unit./
[03:33] <Platypus-Man> okay, now I disabled password, asking for confirmation and encryption - and it still won't connect
[03:33] <Torhal> eseven73: Thankye for htop, though. I'd never used a cures-based top before.
[03:33] <eseven73> yeah np, htop is pretty nice :)
[03:33] <eseven73> so is iptraf......another curses based app
[03:34] <largeprime> ok i found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74497
[03:34] <Torhal> eseven73: Ah, iptraf is nice.
[03:34] <eseven73> it is great :)
[03:34] <largeprime> apparently there are 2 8139 nic devices
[03:35] <largeprime> that thread has a bad link.  antone know how i can switch drivers?
[03:35] <Platypus-Man> "Important note :-Remote Desktop will only work if there’s a GNOME login session.Leaving your computer with an unattended GNOME login session is not secure and not recommended." - what exactly does that mean?
[03:36] <Platypus-Man> do I have to log out before I can use Remote Desktop?
[03:36] <david13> How can I tell how fast my cdr burner can burn so I can buy the right cdrs?
[03:37] <jrgp> what is the best usenet client for ubuntu:?
[03:37] <david13> jrgp: Tin?
[03:37] <Platypus-Man> bah
[03:37] <Platypus-Man> I give up
[03:37] <lockd> will the Ubuntu alternate install disk allow me to install via a serial console?
[03:37] <ramiro> hi
[03:37] <largeprime> chatzilla?
[03:37] <eseven73> !best | jrgp
[03:38] <ramiro> I copied my id_dsa.pub to authorized_keys in the server I want to connect to. But now everytime I try to login it still asks for the passphrase for the id_dsa key. how do I make ubuntu (or whatever) remember the key so I don't have to type in the passphrase?
[03:38] <ramiro> I'm not running any GUI if that matters at all.
[03:38] <david13> I need to leave... You can't have opinions here and I am very opinionated.  Bye.
[03:39] <lockd> mainly I'm looking to set up a server without a monitor or keyboard
[03:39] <jrgp> ramiro, have you checked the file permissions on the .ssh's?
[03:40] <largeprime> according to this link my problem is fixed with kernal 2.6.12 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91746
[03:40] <largeprime> how can i update without a net connection
[03:40] <largeprime> pleas
[03:41] <Hobz> get your friend to read you the kernel source over the phone
[03:41] <CaptainMorgan> I'm having a lot of trouble trying to install postfix for like the 100th time... the common error I'm receiving is "ERR: config file is missing" or similar. reading up on it leads me to remove it, then reinstall it.... I do: sudo apt-get purge postfix, and then sudo apt-get install postfix, agreeing to install related packages, but even the install apt-get command returns multiple "ERR: config files missing" errors... how can t
[03:41] <CaptainMorgan> hat be when I'm doing a fresh install of the package? what is it I need to do so apt-get retrieves the files needed?
[03:41] <Hobz> then do it again to verify it
[03:41] <CaptainMorgan> source.list is appropriately set too...
[03:41] <elky> Hobz, dont be silly, please.
[03:41] <ramiro> jrgp: yes, they're alright.
[03:42] <jrgp> try this on both machines: chmod -R 666 .ssh
[03:42] <Hobz> elky, my bad.  it's in my nature
[03:42] <LetsGo67> Trying to use Microsoft Lifecam NX-6000 in Ubuntu...
[03:42] <dublisk> Hi all, I can't get any ethernet or any mention of eth0 on my system. Here is more info http://codepad.org/35oMUD0L   what should I try ?
[03:42] <valman> who spoke in Russian?
[03:42] <ramiro> ssh-agent and ssh-add did the trick
[03:42] <jrgp> yay
[03:42] <riez-al_> hallo
[03:43] <riez-al_> i am newbie in ubuntu
[03:43] <elky> largeprime, you can download the packages from packages.ubuntu.com and transfer them by usb key. you may need to go back and get more if you need dependancies, but you shouldnt for the kernel
[03:43] <lockd> the kernel afaict has tons of dependencies
[03:43] <riez-al_> anyone to help me
[03:43] <LetsGo67> Can someone help?  Trying to use Microsoft Lifecam NX-6000 in Ubuntu...  only in Cheese does it work.
[03:43] <largeprime> thanks
[03:44] <largeprime> elky
[03:44] <riez-al_> i have problem with my vista sp1 in hardy
[03:44] <lockd> riez-al_: using VirtualBox?
[03:45] <largeprime> elky can you point me to what i wish in packages.ubuntu.com?
[03:45] <largeprime> intreped updates?
[03:45] <scunizi> I've just installed a Brother networked MFC printer and have got it to print but am having issues with getting xsane to recognize that it's there.  I can grep the driver but xsane just blinks on the screen then disappears.. Any hints or suggestions would be greatly appriciated.
[03:45] <lockd> riez-al_: or some other virtualization software like VMware?
[03:47] <Platypus-Man> I'm trying to use remote desktop between my HTPC and my normal PC, and found this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-remote-desktop-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html - but I can't connect because the field where I type in the password doesn't come up... I then tried to untick the checkboxes about password, encryption and asking for confirmation, but it still didn't work - then I tried to log out before I tried to connect, whi
[03:48] <mrpockets> where do the Ubuntu Updates come from?
[03:48] <hardcampa> God
[03:48] <Hyren> lol :P
[03:48] <jrgp> mrpockets, ubuntu maintained repositories
[03:49] <largeprime> elky can you point me to what i wish in packages.ubuntu.com? where are the kernal updates?
[03:50] <eseven73> kernel*
[03:50] <elky> largeprime, can you stop repeating and let me have time to look first?
[03:50] <gartral> largeprime: you should get a little icon by the clock with an exlimation makr, thats the updater
[03:50] <largeprime> thanks  eseven73.  sorry
[03:50] <eseven73> :)
[03:51] <gartral> largeprime: note: the updater only appears if there are updates
[03:51] <largeprime> gartral.  the laptop has no net at all.  trying a workaround
[03:51] <LetsGo67> !pulse
[03:51] <elky> gartral, he's offline
[03:51] <zaccour> how do i find my dynamic ip address?
[03:51] <gartral> largeprime: ohhhh
[03:51] <kindofabuzz> zaccour, ifconfig
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> I'm having a lot of trouble trying to install postfix for like the 100th time... the common error I'm receiving is "ERR: config file is missing" or similar. reading up on it leads me to remove it, then reinstall it.... I do: sudo apt-get purge postfix, and then sudo apt-get install postfix, agreeing to install related packages, but even the install apt-get command returns multiple "ERR: config files missing" errors... how can t
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> hat be when I'm doing a fresh install of the package? what is it I need to do so apt-get retrieves the files needed?
[03:52] <kindofabuzz> or wireless iwconfig
[03:52] <largeprime> i am currently on a lenovo s10.  very small and i try to blame it for my fat fingering
[03:52] <Hyren> there are also numerous sites you can google to find your IP
[03:52] <largeprime> like myip.com
[03:52] <CaptainMorgan> zaccour, ifconfig ?
[03:53] <zaccour> i did ifconfig, but how do i know if that is static or dynamic?
[03:53] <lockd> largeprime: even the standard ethernet driver doesn't work properly? or does it even have one?
[03:53] <jrib> zaccour: your qusetion doesn't make sense
[03:53] <Hyren> also, what do you mean by dynamic IP anyway? since you can only find your current IP, you probably can't predict the next one you will get
[03:54] <Hyren> your IP will (generally) stay the same as long as you stay connected zaccour
[03:54] <elky> largeprime, which version of ubuntu are you on? i'm not having luck looking when i have to search through all of them
[03:54] <lockd> zaccour: canyouseeme.org will tell you what your external IP is, and will let you check open ports
[03:54] <largeprime> lockd i do not know how do answer you.  i belive i am loading the wrong nic driver. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=522773#post522773
[03:54] <lockd> largeprime: well, is it wired?
[03:55] <largeprime> elky 8.10 no updates of course
[03:55] <Megarain> Any one got a fix for extremely low sound on the dell XPS m1530. For exam, volume at 50%, can't hear ANYTHING.
[03:55] <largeprime> lockd no net at all.  wired or wless
[03:55] <Hyren> hey, curious, can anyone else get into #handbrake? seems my address is banned, even though I've never been here before... O.o
[03:56] <LetsGo67> What is PulseAudio and why isn't it working with Skype?
[03:56] <lockd> largeprime: hey, that eth0 looks like it's connected in ifconfig. what happens when you ping the gateway?
[03:56] <gartral> largeprime: ndis wrapper?
[03:56] <elky> largeprime, then you're already above that kernel number. it is not compatible with your system
[03:56] <tj83> hi all.... can anyone say they have had success with nvidia 9500gt 1gb vram in 8.04.2?  I can get it up in 8.10 with manual xorg.conf edit from recovery mode and drop to root to fix... however in 8.04 this does not work, checked for restricted modules, tried envy, even got the source code from nvidia site up to date and built kernel module... someone plz say they have this working.
[03:57] <largeprime> ok guys really love the help but need to slow it down for me
[03:57] <Megarain> tj83: Nvidia driver version?
[03:57] <elky> largeprime, describe what the problem you want to solve is please
[03:57] <tj83> 172.xxx.xxx.28 i think Megarain
[03:58] <largeprime> i have no net connections after install of 8.10
[03:58] <tj83> Megarain, its re-installing 8.10 so i cant double check that
[03:58] <getoo> any room for the beta 9.04
[03:58] <largeprime> laptop zd8000 no wired or wless
[03:58] <Megarain> Try 188 driver. That should work.
[03:58] <lockd> largeprime: install of 8.10 from what? the old stable release?
[03:59] <largeprime> cd
[03:59] <gartral> largeprime: do you know what thype of wifi card it uses?
[03:59] <tj83> Megarain, worth a try,
[03:59] <elky> largeprime, let me look for info on that then. it will take time
[03:59] <largeprime> broadcom
[03:59] <gartral> largeprime: a broadcom ????
[03:59] <elky> and what wired card?
[03:59] <Megarain> Yeah, I warn you, you may need to install via synaptic.
[03:59] <tj83> largeprime, use "lshw | grep network"
[04:00] <largeprime> elky, i could dl a naew release and burn,then reinstall
[04:00] <mercutio22> I can't share a folder between computers using samba. It should not be that hard. Can someone help me debug? I am getting the error message "failed to retreive list of shared folders"
[04:00] <puff> So, why does this ubuntu iso show up as ls -l size -> 732766208, but in Gnome GUI apps it shows up as 698MB?
[04:01] <puff> 698.8 MB.
[04:01] <gartral> mercutio22: you have samba ports open in all your firewalls, yes?
[04:01] <largeprime> net 0,1 disabled
[04:01] <lockd> puff: because that's 698 MB
[04:01] <largeprime> tj83
[04:01] <puff> lockd: ?
[04:01] <lockd> puff: ls -l size reports the number of bytes
[04:02] <tj83> largeprime,  if nothing there, then you can try lspci | grep net or lsusb | grep net or simply lsusb and lspci to look for your hardware info
[04:02] <largeprime> gartral i think so yes
[04:02] <mercutio22> gartral> I don't have a firewall installed. Can it be a problem with my router/.
[04:02] <lockd> puff: 1 KB = 1024 bytes, 1 MB = 1024 KB
[04:02] <mercutio22> gardar> ? that was a question
[04:02] <imbrandon> ls -lh ( h == human readable , like k,MB, or GB )
[04:02] <elky> largeprime, 8.10 is the newest release. try the older release, 8.04
[04:02] <largeprime> tj83 looked for it and foure is a bug with realtek 8139 nicsnd that the
[04:03] <getoo> I'm using ERC Version 5.2 with GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2008-09-05.
[04:03] <jay> hi!
[04:03] <nicholas_> good night all my eyes are sagging
[04:03] <largeprime> elky reinstall from 8.04?
[04:03] <gartral> largeprime: i was asking what specific broadcom card it is, if we can find drivers, we can ndis wrap them and make wireless work
[04:03] <Elijah> Hi, where could I find documentation on how brainstorm.ubuntu.com was built? It's current source code.
[04:03] <tj83> largeprime, i have some realtek hardware here... what is the exact line showing your hardware?
[04:03] <puff> 1024*1024*698.8
[04:03] <Guest64559> Do you have idea how to get the microphone to work with ubuntu?
[04:04] <Guest64559> anyone?
[04:04] <tj83> largeprime, my example : lsusb give me "Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp."
[04:04] <puff> lockd: Ah, I see. Dunno why I didn't expect that.
[04:04] <nicholas_> u have to unmute the mic
[04:04] <getoo> Guest64559: i am tryin to get it to work with yahoo chat
[04:04] <getoo> its very weak
[04:04] <getoo> gyachi
[04:04] <puff> getoo: Me too.
[04:04] <nicholas_> for me it was auto mute
[04:04] <getoo> you can hear just fine tho
[04:04] <getoo> also the muting  part dont work
[04:05] <Guest64559> hmm
[04:05] <Guest64559> I get a bunch of errors
[04:05] <Guest64559> my microphone does not work at all
[04:05] <getoo> i heared it works with pulseuadio
[04:05] <Guest64559> audacity wont record a thing
[04:05] <nicholas_> not in yahoo but setting of pc
[04:05] <PerryArmstrong> hey i was told to use XAMPP for webshost so that i can try PHP programs...but thats for Windows...can anyone tell me an alternative for windows
[04:05] <lockd> some sound cards don't work well with pulseaudio
[04:05] <PerryArmstrong> hey i was told to use XAMPP for webshost so that i can try PHP programs...but thats for Windows...can anyone tell me an alternative for *ubuntu
[04:05] <getoo> better chance of gettin help in linux,freebsd,solaris:1
[04:06] <getoo> in yahoo chat
[04:06] <glitsj16> Elijah: the bottom banner on brainstorm.ubuntu.com mentions http://www.ideatorrent.org/
[04:06] <ddd707> evening, is jaunty off topic here being beta?
[04:06] <getoo> one of the developers comes to that room
[04:06] <puff> When setting up a liveCd/USB flash drive, it lets you choose how much space to use for persistence.  What's the implication o doing this, is this purely a constraint on how much space the running liveCD will let oyu use, or does it keep you from using space for other stuff on that USB disk?
[04:06] <eseven73> ddd707: yep join #Ubuntu+1
[04:06] <largeprime> lspci says ehternet is RTL-8139/8139c/8139c+ rev 10
[04:06] <ddd707> thanks eseven..
[04:06] <tj83> largeprime, how about lsusb?
[04:06] <eseven73> np
[04:06] <puff> PerryArmstrong: LAMP.
[04:06] <Psuedo> Greetings
[04:06] <Psuedo> !dvd
[04:06] <hacker07> is it possible to use a server computer as a normal desktop
[04:07] <lockd> getoo: not much of a better chance in Solaris unless you are using Nexenta
[04:07] <Psuedo> !installation-dvd
[04:07] <PerryArmstrong> puff; ohkk thanq
[04:07] <redscare> can CEDET semantic parse the STL?
[04:07] <getoo> got it
[04:07] <eseven73> hacker07: yes, but the kernel is a bit different for server
[04:07] <puff> hacker07: Yes, if the server computer has a graphics card, etc.
[04:07] <largeprime> lsusb says usb root hub and bluetooth
[04:07] <puff> eseven73: I thought he was asking about server hardware, not about using an ubuntu server install.
[04:07] <Psuedo> Does anyone know if the Installation DVD for Ubunut 64-bit includes anything extra apart from language packs?
[04:07] <hacker07> so if is it easy if you do
[04:07] <glitsj16> PerryArmstrong: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for details on how to install & configure etc.
[04:07] <lockd> hacker07: it's generally a bad idea to use a server as a desktop concurrently
[04:08] <hacker07> okay thanks
[04:08] <puff> PerryArmstrong: XAMPP is just a windows installer for several apps that you can trivially install on linux - apache, mysql (or postgres), php, perl, python, etc.
[04:08] <Psuedo> although, I have server 2008 on my home comp
[04:08] <Guest64559> Also, I'm considering downloading the pandora gadget for Adobe Air
[04:08] <Psuedo> Does anyone know if the Installation DVD for Ubunut 64-bit includes anything extra apart from language packs?
[04:08] <Guest64559> but it isn't free software
[04:08] <Elijah> glitsj16: You da man!
[04:08] <PerryArmstrong> puff..so which do you think is better XAMPP of LAMP
[04:08] <tj83> largeprime, it would seem your hardware is not being shown at all? certain the lspci output shows your wifi not your wired ethernet?
[04:08] <getoo> Guest64559: join gyachi
[04:09] <PerryArmstrong> glitsj16; thanxx
[04:09] <Elijah> glitsj16: Bummer it won't work with mysql though
[04:09] <getoo> sorry #gyachi
[04:09] <getoo> :X
[04:09] <glitsj16> Elijah: i'll forward that friendly comment to the easterbunnies, thanks
[04:09] <Psuedo> PerryArmstrong: Same thing
[04:09] <puff> PerryArmstrong: LAMP is  just a linux box running apache, mysql and php/perl/python.
[04:09] <lockd> hacker07: desktop drivers like nVidia can bring the system down. ouch, if it's also being used as a server
[04:09] <largeprime> tj83 lspci says network controller Broadcom BCM4318 airforce one 54g rev 02
[04:09] <Guest64559> Adobe air runs a bunch of java scripts and has internet connectivity
[04:09] <jamiejackson> how do i launch synaptic as root from a non-admin account?
[04:09] <Psuedo> Does anyone know if the Installation DVD for Ubunut 64-bit includes anything extra apart from language packs?
[04:09] <Psuedo> Does anyone know if the Installation DVD for Ubuntu 64-bit includes anything extra apart from language packs?
[04:09] <CaptainMorgan> zaccour, ifconfig ?
[04:09] <PerryArmstrong> Pseudo, puff; ohkk...thank you very much
[04:09] <puff> PerryArmstrong: XAMP is just somebody trying to make that handy combination available on windows without too much pain and blood (aside from the pain and blood that windows inflicts just by being on your machine).
[04:09] <CaptainMorgan> I'm having a lot of trouble trying to install postfix for like the 100th time... the common error I'm receiving is "ERR: config file is missing" or similar. reading up on it leads me to remove it, then reinstall it.... I do: sudo apt-get purge postfix, and then sudo apt-get install postfix, agreeing to install related packages, but even the install apt-get command returns multiple "ERR: config files missing" errors... how can t
[04:09] <CaptainMorgan> hat be when I'm doing a fresh install of the package? what is it I need to do so apt-get retrieves the files needed?
[04:09] <Megarain> Grrr, still cant get that sound working right.
[04:09] <largeprime> tj83 both show
[04:10] <largeprime> tj83 lspci says network controller Broadcom BCM4318 airforce one 54g rev 02
[04:10] <eseven73> puff: ah i thought he meant the ubuntu server software :/
[04:10] <Elijah> glitsj16: Thanks ;)
[04:10] <lockd> jamiejackson: su to an admin account "su user"
[04:10] <largeprime> lspci says ehternet is RTL-8139/8139c/8139c+ rev 10
[04:10] <genii> I asked in #ubuntu-server but it's pretty quiet there: Any way to send a network alert when ups kicks in?(so all the other boxes can nicely shut down when there's like 2 minutes left of power for instance). APC SmartUPS1400
[04:10] <puff> eseven73: Idaknow what he means now :-).
[04:10] <tj83> largeprime, the BCM4318 is your wifi.... google.
[04:10] <tj83> i will take a look also
[04:10] <hacker07> so what if you don't use it as a server
[04:10] <CaptainMorgan> I did --reinstall too... and it still reports the same error
[04:10] <PerryArmstrong> puff; is there any .NET alternative in linux
[04:10] <largeprime> tj83 and the driver is broke
[04:10] <puff> PerryArmstrong: LAMP was an acronym coined in, hm, around 2000, give or take a year.
[04:10] <largeprime> it seems
[04:10] <Psuedo> double P?
[04:10] <lockd> hacker07: then install from the desktop distro, so you get a desktop kernel
[04:10] <kindofabuzz> PerryArmstrong, mono?
[04:11] <d0nkeyBOB> mono . .
[04:11] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Depends on what you mean by ".net alternative".  There's a .net port called Mono.
[04:11] <eseven73> hacker07: are you talking about like a real physical server, like what google uses? or are you tlaking bout the software Ubuntu Operating system?
[04:11] <PhotoJim> genii: absolutely possible depending on the UPS you have.  see apcupsd package, e.g., if you have an APC UPS.
[04:11] <Psuedo> Does the Installation DVD for Ubuntu 64-bit include anything extra apart from language packs?
[04:11] <PerryArmstrong> kindofabuzz, puff; i meant for windows apps we build it through .NET...what about in linux
[04:11] <puff> PerryArmstrong: So 2000 was The Year Of The Platform. That's when the buzzword "development platform" became very popular, replacing "enterprise server".
[04:11] <tj83> largeprime, so it was working before?
[04:11] <d0nkeyBOB> when does gnome 2.26 come
[04:11] <largeprime> nope
[04:11] <hacker07> im talking about a physical server system
[04:11] <genii> PhotoJim: Thanks
[04:11] <d0nkeyBOB> do i have to wait for 9.06
[04:11] <largeprime> never
[04:12] <puff> PerryArmstrong: You biuld what through.net, XAMPP?
[04:12] <largeprime> just did the install
[04:12] <puff> erryArmstrong: Also around 2000, a lot of people were coding up web apps in just-plain-old apache, mysql and php, running on linux servers.
[04:12] <eseven73> ok puff you were right lol
[04:12] <tritium> d0nkeyBOB: gnome 2.26 is out.  It will be in ubuntu 9.04, which will be released 4/23.
[04:12] <eseven73> he means like  an hp server
[04:12] <d0nkeyBOB> no way to get it for 8.10?
[04:12] <lockd> Psuedo: not sure exactly, but there's jigdo which will allow you to build your own disc
[04:12] <kindofabuzz> d0nkeyBOB, 2.226 is in Jaunty, don't know if intrepid will upgrade, i doubt it
[04:12] <puff> PerryArmstrong: So somebody (I think at O'Reilly & Associates) coined the acronym LAMP (Linux+Apache+Mysql+Perl/Python/PHP;  originally mostly perl, these days mostly PHP).
[04:13] <tj83> largeprime, ubuntu wifi docs says its supported... your radio switch on? pastebine the output of iwconfig and iwlist scan
[04:13] <tj83> pastebin*
[04:13] <d0nkeyBOB> oh . . .bummer
[04:13] <kindofabuzz> d0nkeyBOB, download it and build it yourself is always possible
[04:13] <Psuedo> lockd: Okay
[04:13] <PerryArmstrong> puff; no no..i have to do a college project using .NET software in Windows...a live project to be implemented in college. I dont like using Windows except for gaming and i want to know whether its possible to build in linux
[04:13] <puff> PerryArmstrong: to point out that this was an organically emerging web application "platform" that was rivaling the heavily marketed web application "platforms" like J2EE, etc.
[04:14] <d0nkeyBOB> i was trying to look for garnome 2.26 . . but i can't find it
[04:14] <largeprime> tj83 cant pastebin have to save file and sneaker net it to this pc
[04:14] <PerryArmstrong> puff; yes yes....i really want to know whether php is better or j2ee
[04:14] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Oh, well if you have to meet an arbitrarily imposed limitation of developing in windows .net...
[04:14] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: it really depends on what you are using from .NET
[04:14] <puff> PerryArmstrong: the answer is "it depends", but that's really not a question for #ubuntu.
[04:14] <tj83> well any useful info from those commands?
[04:14] <PerryArmstrong> puff; asked that on curiosity
[04:14] <puff> PerryArmstrong: I have been doing web programming since 1994 (not kidding, I remember when they added background image support :-).
[04:15] <puff> PerryArmstrong: And I have done a lot of first perl, then java, and lately PHP.
[04:15] <puff> PerryArmstrong: They all have their strengths.
[04:15] <tj83> largeprime, any useful info from those commands?
[04:15] <kindofabuzz> d0nkeyBOB, garnome is only at 2.24 looks like
[04:15] <tj83> largeprime, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[04:15] <macman_> guys i want to boot up a mac with ubuntu cd .. any ideas ?
[04:15] <d0nkeyBOB> yea i saw that . . .but gnome says to use garnome 2.26 . . .so i'm at a loss
[04:15] <puff> PerryArmstrong: They all have their weaknesses.  I would be happy to discuss this at length at some othre date, because right now I'm actually working on a critical project deadline.
[04:15] <gartral> kindofabuzz: what is garnome, ive only heard of it recently
[04:15] <kindofabuzz> d0nkeyBOB, actuall only 2.22, 2.24 isn't even done yet
[04:15] <d0nkeyBOB> nice . . .
[04:16] <PerryArmstrong> puff; can i have an appoitment with you
[04:16] <kindofabuzz> gartral, GARNOME is a build utility that allows users to build the GNOME Desktop
[04:16] <PerryArmstrong> puff; can i have an *appointment with you
[04:16] <d0nkeyBOB> it helps you compile gnome
[04:16] <puff> PerryArmstrong: I'll PM you some contact info.
[04:16] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Btw, where are you?
[04:16] <PerryArmstrong> puff; india
[04:16] <PerryArmstrong> puff; you
[04:16] <puff> Fun.
[04:16] <puff> Good food.
[04:16] <PerryArmstrong> puff; spicy food
[04:16] <d0nkeyBOB> i had indian tonight . . .aloo matter
[04:17] <d0nkeyBOB> so good
[04:17] <d0nkeyBOB> sorry off the subject . .
[04:17] <Digital7> mythtv under 8.10x64 with avermedia hybrid volar max (native drivers) just flickers when i try to 'watch tv', any input welcomed
[04:17] <PerryArmstrong> d0nkeyBOB; great
[04:17] <d0nkeyBOB> oh well . . .guess i'll have to wait for jaunty.
[04:18] <d0nkeyBOB> will it be safe to upgrade right away hen it comes out?
[04:18] <lockd> I am currently running the unstable releases. I would say no
[04:18] <digitalpsyko> room for jaunty beta?
[04:18] <d0nkeyBOB> ha\
[04:18] <eseven73> im resizing a 40 gig hdd to 50 % of that, how long is this going to take ?! it's an old IDE hdd on a Dell Demented(tion) 2400...
[04:18] <ddd707> ubuntu+1
[04:19] <ddd707> digitalpsyko - #ubuntu+1
[04:19] <digitalpsyko> ty sir
[04:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I have a harddrive of 150GB(usable), whats a good size for the swap partition?
[04:19] <largeprime> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/139963/ tj83
[04:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> im setting up a server system that has 256 MB of ram
[04:19] <tj83> Iceman_B^Ltop, 2x your ram
[04:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay
[04:19] <lockd> and I would upgrade the ram if at all possible
[04:20] <eseven73> gparted says 00:09:08   is that 9 hours? O.o
[04:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> lockd: I wish
[04:20] <gartral> eseven73: 9 minutes
[04:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but I cant find RDram for cheap anywhere
[04:20] <tj83> largeprime, you have something there. wlan0 showing a working wifi chip
[04:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> so if you have anything to spare, I'll take it :)
[04:20] <TwoToneSpirit> What command will tell me everything there is to know about an IP address on my LAN?
[04:20] <eseven73> gartral: hmmm its' been way over 9 minutes
[04:20] <Hobz> Iceman_B^Ltop, 1 gig is plenty
[04:21] <tj83> but no access point detected largeprime
[04:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> Hobz: alright
[04:21] <gartral> eseven73: then its either stuck, or you have a MASSIVE drive
[04:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I'll partition that then
[04:21] <lockd> Iceman_B^Ltop: ah, right, I have a system with 500MB and it's DDR.. still can't find that
[04:21] <eseven73> gartral: just 40 gigs
[04:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I have data on the drive so I dont want to destroy all data
[04:21] <gartral> eseven73: is it changing at all?
[04:21] <eseven73> gartral: im shrinking it to 20 gigs
[04:21] <largeprime> how do i connect with it?  i think it has the wrong driver
[04:21] <eseven73> no :(
[04:22] <gartral> eseven73: are you sure theres not more than 20 gigs used?
[04:22] <cappicard> any program that supports qcelp? i am trying to play videos off my phone and it uses qcelp audio...
[04:22] <largeprime> i think BOTH my broadcom and mt realtek have the wrong drivers loaded
[04:22] <nothing> im blasted
[04:22] <eseven73> gartral: yeah, its a 40 gig IDE hdd about 4 years old
[04:22] <tj83> largeprime, without a detected access point i am not sure.. i do know the manual connnect syntax is like iwconfig wlan0 essid wifiname
[04:23] <gartral> eseven73: yes, but are you sure theres NOT more than 20 gigs of data ALREADY on it?
[04:23] <hacker07> what is a good place to learn c
[04:23] <pchater> Any really experienced computer guys in here (Mainly System Builders / troubleshooters)?
[04:23] <tj83> largeprime, assuming you do get connected you will have to run dhclient wlan0
[04:23] <hacker07> I am a system builder
[04:23] <Digital7> pchater: what's the issue?
[04:23] <largeprime> tj83 i cannot get the net connection manager to even look for anything
[04:23] <darvin> aham
[04:24] <eseven73> gartral: theres about 10 gigs used, another Ubuntu OS
[04:24] <eseven73> so 30 gigs is free/empty
[04:24] <pchater> Digital7: Black Screen won't POST - AsRock Penryn1600SLIX3-WIFI board. Done a full system diagnostic; processor, hard drives, graphics are fine.
[04:24] <gartral> eseven73: and are the counters moving, at all?
[04:24] <eseven73> nope
[04:24] <gartral> eseven73: its stuck...
[04:24] <eseven73> stuck at 00:09:08
[04:24] <eseven73> :(
[04:24] <eseven73> now what?
[04:24] <darvin> vcs sao americanos?
[04:25] <Digital7> pchater: checked the power supply yet?
[04:25] <largeprime> tj83 command not found?
[04:25] <tj83> largeprime, i am afraid i dont know how to better help :(
[04:25] <Digital7> pchater: the 110/220 switch, that is
[04:25] <Digital7> pchater: there's a little red switch that says 110 or 220 -- i've seen them cause that
[04:25] <gartral> eseven73: not sure, you sure the drive was ok before you started
[04:25] <gartral> ?
[04:25] <eseven73> gartral: yep worked just fine
[04:25] <tj83> largeprime, do iwconfig --help maybe i had the syntax wrong.. i cant try it as i am online currently
[04:25] <pchater> Digital7: Power Supply is also fine. Motherboard Powers on, and the drives all spin etc. But it doesn't post. Also I believe the 110 / 220 is a voltage increase so I don't want to make my Power Supply go BANG :P
[04:26] <largeprime> you pointed out my bdcom wless should be using legacy drivers.  can you tell me how to install thoes?
[04:26] <bazhang> pchater, ##hardware for that
[04:26] <tj83> largeprime, no, you will have to do more research
[04:26] <|v|aster> anyone know a channel i could get help with a SQL error?
[04:27] <bazhang> |v|aster, /msg alis help
[04:27] <tj83> largeprime, it was talking about actually flashing the firmware... not sure i would attempt that just yet
[04:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okaym I have a 150GB drive, the first part is a NTFS partition of 40GB, the rest, I just formatted to Ext3. how can I mount the Ext3 parition and copy my date from the NTFS partition to the Ext 3 one ?
[04:28] <tj83> Iceman_B^Ltop, you will need to do from ubuntu instead of windows... you cant mount the ext3 drive in windows natively
[04:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I am on ubuntu right now
[04:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> well, Im running the 8.10 live cd
[04:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I want to convert everything to Ext3, and keep my daa
[04:29] <tj83> both partitions should show under places then Iceman_B^Ltop
[04:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> *data
[04:29] <largeprime> tj83 iwconfig wlan0 essid "myroutereesid" gave operation not permitted
[04:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh, right
[04:30] <tj83> largeprime, use sudo
[04:30] <|v|aster> largeprime, try it with sdo
[04:31] <largeprime> did.  worked?  ping something?
[04:31] <tj83> largeprime you have to run dhclient wlan0
[04:31] <tj83> to get your ip address
[04:31] <tj83> largeprime, then run ifconfig to see if you have anything
[04:31] <Iceman_B^Ltop> tj83: I cant paste files from the one partition to the other :/
[04:32] <Omeil> Hi all, I'm having an issue i downloaded some standard app updates for ubuntu and restarted then suddenly it just freezes during login with distorted logo have tried to fix X server and also uninstalled GDM and reinstalled
[04:32] <Omeil> I have some images here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1105926 but haven't had any forum replies
[04:32] <largeprime> nope.  pastebin it?
[04:32] <Techfoo_0> greetings all
[04:32] <tj83> Iceman_B^Ltop, any errors? look a the details. permissions?
[04:33] <tj83> largeprime, wouldnt hurt
[04:33] <Iceman_B^Ltop> no errors
[04:33] <Iceman_B^Ltop> when I select the files and hit copy
[04:33] <ynk> which glade package should i get? 'glade' or 'glade-gnome'?
[04:33] <Iceman_B^Ltop> "paste"stays gryed out
[04:33] <tj83> Iceman_B^Ltop, try the mv command from terminal
[04:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> k
[04:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> pwd
[04:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> err
[04:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> wrong keyb
[04:36] <tj83> Iceman if paste is greyed out its likely a permissions error.. you will have to go to the mounted drive in /media then run sudo chmod -R /media/disk/ "where disk represents the drive path"
[04:36] <tj83> Iceman if paste is greyed out its likely a permissions error.. you will have to go to the mounted drive in /media then run sudo chmod -R /media/disk/ "where disk represents the drive path" Iceman_B^Ltop
[04:36] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ok
[04:36] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ive got highlights on both nicks :)
[04:36] <kevin_zhong> hmmm, Ubuntu is running in "low graphics" mode, but it is now giving me the option to run at 1024x768 while with the correct drivers it would not, what is wrong?
[04:36] <tj83> Iceman if paste is greyed out its likely a permissions error.. you will have to go to the mounted drive in /media then run sudo chmod -R 777 /media/disk/ "where disk represents the drive path" Iceman_B^Ltop
[04:37] <tj83> "777" correction
[04:37] <Omeil> Hi all, I'm having an issue i downloaded some standard app updates for ubuntu and restarted then suddenly it just freezes during login with distorted logo have tried to fix X server and also uninstalled GDM and reinstalled I have some images here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1105926 but haven't had any forum replies
[04:37] <tj83> Iceman_B^Ltop, once you have all data set you will want to learn how to use chown and chmod to get your perms the way you want them
[04:38] <kevin_zhong> hmmm, Ubuntu is running in "low graphics" mode, but it is now giving me the option to run at 1024x768 while with the correct drivers it would not, what is wrong?
[04:39] <TualatriX> Hi, Does anyone know how to make a daily-build bot for launchpad PPA?
[04:40] <bazhang> https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart TualatriX
[04:40] <jamiejackson> Omeil: intel graphics?
[04:41] <largeprime> tj83 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/139964/
[04:41] <kevin_zhong> can anyone help me? I upadted a driver for my nvidia card because all I could get is 800x640, and the driver failed but now under low graphics mode I can use 1024x768, can I leave it in low graphics mode permanently?
[04:41] <clearscreen> !repeat kevin_zhong
[04:41] <clearscreen> !repeat | kevin_zhong
[04:42] <TualatriX> bazhang: Thanks. I've owned my PPA. But I don't know how to implement the daily build.
[04:42] <kevin_zhong> sheesh, the robot is consoling me :)
[04:42] <tj83> largeprime, sorry bro... keep searching... the answer is out there.... took me 2 solid weeks to figure mine out.
[04:42] <bazhang> TualatriX, what about asking the appropriate channel ( #launchpad )
[04:42] <Omeil> jamiejackson, No ATI Radeon HD2600 but i have put the original xorg.conf "vesa" back in place
[04:43] <tj83> largeprime, and when you do create a page like this for others
[04:43] <tj83> !realtek
[04:43] <TualatriX> bazhang: Oh, Sorry! Thank you. I will go to the channel.
[04:43] <kevin_zhong> :(
[04:44] <largeprime> thanks for trying tj.  think i am gonna install 8.04 as elky? suggested
[04:45] <jvm_> hi. i lost my terminal. i can start many instances of gnome-terminal, but they do not show up. they are not minimized, they are not on the other desktop. they are just..nowhere. maybe on my second monitor, which is not connected. what to do to get it back?
[04:45] <tj83> largeprime, worth a try... 8.10 tends to have better support for newer hardware but 8.04 is runs more stable.
[04:45] <claytronic> Anyone running the Intel 82801DB-ICH4 chipset? Have a long standing issue with the volume controls. For some reason the headphone volume isn't controlled by the master volume
[04:48] <bazhang> !give me a test
[04:48]  * Cosmo gives bazhang :bazhang!n=bazhang@unaffiliated/bazhang PRIVMSG #ubuntu :+!give me a test.
[04:49] <bluenzo^nix> What is the most common/popular mp3/media player that has visualizations and whatnot...
[04:49] <Cpudan80> hmm that's debatable
[04:49] <bazhang> !players > bluenzo^nix
[04:49] <usser> yep debatable
[04:49] <Cpudan80> rhythmbox comes with ubuntu
[04:49] <Cpudan80> dont think it has visualizations though
[04:49] <bluenzo^nix> thanks bazhang
[04:49] <clearscreen> Cpudan80: it does
[04:50] <drfreema> bluenzo^nix:  vlc has visualizations
[04:50] <Cpudan80> oh I stand corrected
[04:50] <drfreema> and supports lots of codecs
[04:50] <bluenzo^nix> i have VLC, id ditn know it had visualizations :P
[04:50] <bluenzo^nix> XMMS2, comes with ubuntu?
[04:51] <bazhang> bluenzo^nix, audacious is the replacement for xmms
[04:51] <bluenzo^nix> bazhang, k thanks
[04:53] <zaccour> do all network hubs work with Ubuntu or just certain ones?
[04:53] <jvm_> zaccour, all of them.
[04:53] <Cpudan80> zaccour: every last one
[04:53] <Alex_21> Lol
[04:54] <zaccour> ok thanks
[04:54] <Alex_21> Lol
[04:54] <Cpudan80> zaccour: if you find one that doesn't work - smash it with a hammer
[04:54] <Cpudan80> as its not worth anything
[04:54] <zaccour> hahaha okedokey
[04:54] <themurmish> Hi
[04:54] <zaccour> just wanna make sure i buy a good one
[04:54] <Heimark> I agree
[04:54] <Cpudan80> zaccour: don't buy a hub
[04:54] <Cpudan80> buy a switch
[04:54] <Alex_21> I second that
[04:54] <Cpudan80> you probably cant even buy a hub now adays
[04:54] <Alex_21> Buy a switch
[04:55] <themurmish> I am having a Mongrel server running on port 3001 and can reach it from the machine itself. However I cant connect to it via the network
[04:55] <zaccour> Cpudan80, where do i get a switch?
[04:55] <Alex_21> It is on my LAN and works great
[04:55] <Cpudan80> Hubs take the incoming line and split it across all clients (100 MB in, 10 clients = 10MB / client). A switch gives the full smash to everyone
[04:55] <Alex_21> I really prefere switches
[04:55] <zaccour> what are they called? network switches?
[04:55] <Cpudan80> zaccour: any legit retailer walmart, bestbuy ...
[04:55] <themurmish> Switches also prevent collisions
[04:56] <bazhang> !ot
[04:56] <clearscreen> you can use some cheap-ass 20 euro router as a switch too :)
[04:56] <Cpudan80> zaccour: they are called switches --- anything by linksys will do
[04:56] <clearscreen> just disable DHCP and you're set :P
[04:56] <zaccour> ok thanks
[04:56] <clearscreen> Oh, and plug in your wan cable in one of the LAN slots, not WANslot
[04:56] <genii> Or use a crossover
[04:57] <kevin_zhong> is there anyway I can force Ubuntu to run in "Low Graphics Mode"
[04:57] <themurmish> Does anyone have any idea why I can't reach port 3001 (or any other port other than 80)?
[04:57] <zaccour> the reason i need a switch is because my internet wont connect to my ps3 without being connected to a computer also
[04:57] <genii> kevin_zhong: Specify on grub line option:   vga
[04:58] <zaccour> do switches connect to the computer and the game console at the same time? the name switch sounds like one or the other
[04:58] <kevin_zhong> how do I do that?
[04:58] <zaccour> i mean, with a switch would it be connected to 2 different machines at the same time??
[04:58] <lockd> zaccour: the PS3 uses DHCP correct?
[04:58] <themurmish> zaccour the switch distributes the network packets to the proper recipients
[04:59] <genii> zaccour: Yes, or however many it has plugs for. Typically 4,8,12, and 16 plugs
[04:59] <zaccour> ok thanks
[04:59] <zaccour> whats the difference between a switch and a hub?
[04:59] <themurmish> the hub just forwards to everyone
[04:59] <kevin_zhong> genii: how can I specify on grub line option?
[04:59] <puff> Hm, I just got a mysterious failure when using the usb-creator to create an Ubuntu live CD on a flash drive.  It just said "failed with "Install command exited with code:: 256"
[05:00] <themurmish> that also might result in collisions and costs you bandwidth
[05:00] <themurmish> but with 2 systems connected this is neglectable
[05:00] <genii> kevin_zhong: For one-time boot, hit ESC when grub prompt begins. Then e to edit the loading line, etc. After editing it will boot with that option, but only that once. For permanent add the option in the line which loads the kernel in the /boot/grub/menu.lst   file
[05:01] <bluenzo^nix> does Audacious has a visualizer?
[05:01] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me whats required to learn to learn linux OS programming
[05:01] <andrewfree> I just plugged a flash drive in, it has 3 partitions how can I tell what they are named in dev?
[05:02] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, have you had any experience with the C language?
[05:02] <|v|aster> learn perl and shell scripting, you will go far, PerryArmstrong
[05:02] <pines0ul> andrewfree: you could check /var/log/messages or you could mount the partitions and have a look at what's inside
[05:02] <PerryArmstrong> Hobz; i had in my 1st year in college...i have learnt upto stack , queue programming
[05:03] <pines0ul> whoa wait i'm in #ubuntu ... uh i'm sure there's some gui thing for that
[05:03] <zaccour> hubs are probably less expensive. would a hub be able to connect to both my computer and my ps3?
[05:03] <themurmish> zaccour: yes and yes
[05:03] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, any particular area of the OS you're interested in?
[05:03] <lockd> I thought you said hubs are probably not even easy to come by anymore
[05:03] <PerryArmstrong> |v|aster; i have done some initial programming of shell like adding two numbers...etc i have it i this semester
[05:03] <themurmish> however I don't know how big the price difference is
[05:03] <andrewfree> pines0ul: nothing in the log :/
[05:04] <themurmish> you probably could even just use a crossover cable
[05:04] <themurmish> taht should be cheapest
[05:04] <andrewfree> wait
[05:04] <zaccour> whats a crossover bable?
[05:04] <puff> zaccour: An ethernet switch is a slightly smarter version of an ethernet hub, almost all such are switches these days and the cost difference should be negligible.
[05:04] <zaccour> cable
[05:04] <andrewfree> think I found it...
[05:04] <pines0ul> andrewfree: you could also do 'ls -lct /dev|grep sd' and see what's on top
[05:04] <PerryArmstrong> Hobz; i never programmed the OS..so i dont have much idea...but yes i do like to improve the performance
[05:04] <andrewfree> its sdb1
[05:04] <PerryArmstrong> of linux
[05:04] <andrewfree> I think it was in my log.
[05:04] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, you might want to look into kernel programming, then
[05:05] <puff> zaccour: An ethernet hub replicates the signal on all cables plugged into it, a switch is smart enough to see which cable belongs to which MAC address and only replicate the signal on the cable for the MAC address it's intended for.
[05:05] <PerryArmstrong> Hobz; whats the difference between OS and kernel.. i have been trying to know this simce long time
[05:05] <zaccour> puff so a hub would be better for my ps3 to be connected at the same time?
[05:05] <themurmish> zaccour: You only ant to connect PS3 and PC right?
[05:05] <puff> How would I reformat a USB flash drive to fat32, just use fdisk?
[05:05] <pines0ul> puff: that will work
[05:05] <puff> zaccour: I have no idea what would be good for a ps3.
[05:06] <bluenzo^nix> I just installed xmms2 for kicks, i dont see it in my application menu
[05:06] <puff> pines0ul: Thanks.
[05:06] <zaccour> themurmish, my modem has 1 port, and it requires computer connection for the signal to be transmitted to the ps3
[05:06] <Flare183> puff: You can use gparted
[05:06] <Hobz> kernel is the os, essentially.  I can explain it here, but you're probably better off with the wikipedia article
[05:07] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: the kernel is part of the OS
[05:07] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computer_science)
[05:07] <themurmish> zaccour: so I would then recommend to get a router instead and connect to that. If that's to expencive get a crossover cable and just conect PC and PS3 with that
[05:07] <ubuntnoob> i just did a fresh install of xubuntu and i went to synaptic to install samba and i got the folowing errorE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:07] <ubuntnoob> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[05:07] <kevin_zhong> genii: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=UUID=A68868BB88688C1D loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro ROOTFLAGS=syncio quiet splash  would be where I put it?
[05:07] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; ohkk so whats required to learn to program the kernel...embedded C??
[05:07] <andrewfree> pines0ul: so I found its sdc1.
[05:07] <zaccour> themurmish, whats a crossover cable?
[05:07] <themurmish> zaccour: If you had a router your PC wouldn't have to be on all the time you are playing with the PS3
[05:07] <pines0ul> andrewfree: congrats :)
[05:08] <genii> kevin_zhong: Right after where the word "splash" is
[05:08] <andrewfree> But when I try to mount it it says cant find it in fstab
[05:08] <Flare183> ubuntnoob: That means that you need to report it as a bug
[05:08] <kevin_zhong> ok, thanks!
[05:08] <ubuntnoob> and i'm scared
[05:08] <themurmish> zaccour: A crossover cable allows you to connect to devices directly
[05:08] <Flare183> !bugs | ubuntnoob
[05:08] <caeroe> so on #mythtv-users they're telling me my kworld 120 should just work.   is there anything in ubuntu 8.10 x64 that is conflicting with this tuner card?
[05:08] <pines0ul> andrewfree: try mounting it as superuser
[05:08] <genii> kevin_zhong: You're welcome
[05:08] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: C, the kernel's API, IRQs, etc
[05:08] <kevin_zhong> ill restart now and see if it works :)
[05:08] <puff> themurmish: Oh, is that what he wants?  Yah, you need a router to share an internet connection between to machines.
[05:08] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; IRQ??
[05:08] <Serraphyn> caeroe: which Tuner Card is it?
[05:08] <zaccour> thanks yall, i guess im out to wal-mart to see what they have there
[05:08] <bluenzo^nix> or hub
[05:08] <Hobz> andrewfree, did you make a directory for it in /mnt/?
[05:08] <themurmish> zaccour: with hub or switch you cna connect more than 2 devices but you need one cabe for eahc devices
[05:09] <puff> zaccour: Most routers you can buy these days also have a built-in 4-port switc.
[05:09] <puff> zaccour: But chekto make sure, obviousyl.
[05:09] <andrewfree> Hobz: no.
[05:09] <Hobz> ah
[05:09] <zaccour> ok, thanks
[05:09] <themurmish> zaccour: Good luck shopping!
[05:09] <caeroe> kworld 120, clone of x8000a atsc/ntsc hybrid
[05:09] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: interrupts. you may need to learn/reverse engineer how to get a device initialized, as well
[05:09] <caeroe> i have the firmware in /usr/lib
[05:10] <puff> zaccour: And, like themurmish  said, you'll also need one cable for each conneciton, so that's one for each machine plus one for from the router to the DSL modem or cable modem
[05:10] <themurmish> Does anyone have any idea why I can't reach port 3001 (or any other port other than 80)?
[05:10] <Hobz> andrewfree, you'll want to set up your /mnt/ directory like it was before you rebooted
[05:10] <sirstan> I was installing Ubuntu 8.04 server and it failed at the package selection -- so i just installed grub and rebooted.  Did I miss some important configurations steps?
[05:10] <caeroe> just taking a stab, hoping someone is familiar with it, albeit a longshot
[05:10] <Flare183> themurmish: Because there isn't a application that has that port opened
[05:10] <Serraphyn> caeroe: I have my 878 card running on 8.04 right out of the box but its on a 32-bit distro.  Do you have any SCSI cards installed? I had an issue with those
[05:11] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; i have got so much information now...but what i need to know is its not normal C programming thats required for kernel programming..so how do i lern that
[05:11] <caeroe> nope.  my old atsc card worked flawlessly though  :)   but it's a paper weight now
[05:11] <Heimark> any suggestions for ftp server and client program for Ubuntu? I want to be able to access the music on my desktop from my netbook without having to transfer 7 gigs at a time through a USB drive
[05:11] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: *very* carefully.  The kernel has no memory manager.
[05:11] <PerryArmstrong> lockd *learn that
[05:11] <andrewfree> Hobz: I have no idea what it was before I rebooted. hda and live is all thats in it now.
[05:11] <Flare183> Heimark: yes
[05:11] <Serraphyn> caeroe: did you just install the 8.10 64-bit?
[05:11] <caeroe> er make that my old ntsc... durrr
[05:12] <Hobz> andrewfree, The mkdir stuff should be in the install.pdf
[05:12] <PerryArmstrong> sirstan; ohh what does this make sense of??
[05:12] <Flare183> Heimark: proftpd for the server and filezilla for the client
[05:12] <Hobz> andrewfree, what step are you at?
[05:12] <puff> themurmish: Depends on a lot, please explain what you're seeing in more detail, i.e. reach port 3001 from what machine to what machine?
[05:12] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: ... what did you just say?
[05:12] <caeroe> i was using x64 bit, it could have been 8.04 back then
[05:12] <Serraphyn> Heimark: setup samba sharing? thats what I do with my MP3 directory
[05:12] <Heimark> Flare183: thank you
[05:12] <Flare183> Serraphyn: That's also a good idea
[05:13] <basti> how can i assign the harddrives listed in nautilus a name to be shown rather then there size?
[05:13] <Serraphyn> caeroe: reason I'm asking is just cause you can try a quick install of 32 bit to see if it works.
[05:13] <zaccour> i just found a wireless router for sale on lsn. do all wireless routers work fine on Ubuntu?
[05:13] <andrewfree> Hobz: root@bt:~# mke2fs /dev/sda1 but I was trying to find out what my flash drive was named. Being as its not sda1
[05:13] <PerryArmstrong> sirstan; if the kernel has no memory manager...what do i need to derive from this concept??
[05:13] <zaccour> I checked lsn before leaving to walmart and found a wireless router for 30
[05:13] <Hobz> andrew_, if you've found it, just continue with the steps.  Your device shouldn't be mounted yet.
[05:13] <Serraphyn> zaccour: you do know that the router has very little to anything to do with your OS
[05:14] <ziroday> zaccour: err if connected via ethernet then yes
[05:14] <puff> themurmish: If you're expecting something to be listening on port 3001 on your machine, you can check by doing the following form the shell on the same machine:  a) telnet localhost 3001, then hit enter once or twice.
[05:14] <Heimark> Serraphyn: I thought Samba was for Windows/Linux mixed systems
[05:14] <Hobz> woops, andrewfree even
[05:14] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: its amazingly easy to crash yor system trying to develop kernel modules
[05:14] <zaccour> ok thanks
[05:14] <puff> themurmish: b) run netstat -lnp
[05:14] <ziroday> basti: right click on the drive in nautilus's places menu and click rename
[05:14] <Serraphyn> Heimark: it can do *nix to *nix, or nix to win
[05:14] <saysay> I having problems booting Ubuntu Luks with 2 harddrives, but booting with one works, Anyone seen this problem ?
[05:14] <Hobz> andrewfree, there isn't even a filesystem to mount yet
[05:14] <andrewfree> true...
[05:14] <PerryArmstrong> sirstan; ohh so this is what you meant...then how do we learn...we can't risk our systems..is there any simulation type
[05:14] <Serraphyn> saysay: SATA?
[05:15] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: vmware?
[05:15] <saysay> SATA 2 raptors
[05:15] <ziroday> Serraphyn: Heimark: however as a general rule *nix to *nix is better done with NFS :)
[05:15] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: Xen?
[05:15] <basti> ziroday, this option is not accessable
[05:15] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: I would suggest either VirtualBox or QEmu for fiddling with kernels
[05:15] <ziroday> basti: why not?
[05:15] <PerryArmstrong> sirstan; that's a really awesome idea...
[05:15] <andrewfree> Hobz: but it has sda1 and sda2 I only have sdb1 the other drives are the internal ones that are my moms stuff. I dont want to touch that.
[05:15] <Serraphyn> ziroday: true, but I use samba as most friends that come over to get on wireless use windows still and it makes life easier to just have a share they can connect to
[05:15] <claytronic> themurmish netstat -lnp | grep 3001
[05:15] <Heimark> sorry, I might be a little slow, trying to use two computers at once
[05:16] <basti> ziroday, how should i know. it is shown but i cant access it
[05:16] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; i suppose Vbox is better as its sun product
[05:16] <PerryArmstrong> better engineered
[05:16] <ziroday> Serraphyn: sure, you should also check out giver. Its a neat tool for sharing files over a LAN and is cross platform
[05:16] <Hobz> andrewfree, you say hda is the only directory in /mnt?
[05:16] <ziroday> basti: err have you mounted the drive yet?
[05:16] <andrewfree> no
[05:16] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: poor assumption; but run with it.
[05:16] <andrewfree> there is live too Hobz
[05:16] <basti> ziroday, sure. they are all in fstab
[05:16] <caeroe> it may be detecting just a generic atsc card.... (preemptive "yay")
[05:16] <Serraphyn> ziroday: true, I just tend to tell people the most headache free way that I've seen to avoid ongoing issues.
[05:17] <claytronic> and Vbox will be even better after Sun is an IBM product ;)
[05:17] <lockd> VBox is generally easier to get running, though
[05:17] <Hobz> andrewfree, don't worry about live, live is you.  hda is your mom.  ls /mnt/hda/ and you should see some windows stuff
[05:17] <ziroday> basti: okay, and when right clicking the drive that option is just not there?
[05:17] <PerryArmstrong> sirstan; i used vbox for running XP...so which according to you is better
[05:17] <basti> ziroday, it is there, but it is "blanked" out
[05:17] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, just go with what you know until it breaks
[05:17] <ziroday> basti: okay, thats because the hard drive is not mounted. Is there a mount option on the right click menu?
[05:17] <andrewfree> lol Hobz shes on osx. And hda has boot and BT4... 0.o
[05:17] <PerryArmstrong> Hebz; thats a good
[05:18] <themurmish> puff: , :claytronic netstat tells me that ruby is listening there. Everything else would be suprising since I cna reach the serve rfrom Firefox from the local machine
[05:18] <basti> ziroday, they are mounted
[05:18] <basti> mount -l proves that
[05:18] <ziroday> basti: how are they mounted?
[05:18] <Hobz> andrewfree, enter dmesg into a terminal
[05:18] <themurmish> However it does neither work from my windows Laptop nor my gf's Mac
[05:18] <basti> ziroday, like i said,listed in fstab
[05:18] <PerryArmstrong> Hebz; thats a good idea...but i dont want to grow old experimenting each and everything only to leran when i become very old that this is what i have to use
[05:18] <andrewfree> Hobz: and?
[05:19] <PerryArmstrong> Hebz; sometimes we have to learn from others experiences also
[05:19] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, that autocomplete is killing me, bro
[05:19] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: at least make sure you can get a serial terminal to communicate with the host os. if you can't, you're not ready for kernel programming
[05:19] <themurmish> and there is no firewall running
[05:19] <PerryArmstrong> Hebz; autocomplete??
[05:19] <Hobz> andrewfree, sorry, run dmesg | grep sdb
[05:19] <Hobz> who are you talking to?
[05:19] <Hobz> hobz or hebz?
[05:20] <ziroday> basti: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[05:20] <Xn^uTh> so why the whole sudo thing
[05:20] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; serialterminal??
[05:20] <Xn^uTh> I can't kill processes from top
[05:20] <basti> ziroday, no usb
[05:20] <ziroday> basti: it will still work for sata/ide drives
[05:20] <lockd> themurmish: does nmap say it's listening
[05:20] <puff> Hm, "fdisk -l" shows the USB flash disk at /dev/sdd1, but "sudo gparted /dev/sdd" says "cannot stat device sdd - no such file or directory"
[05:21] <jaem> is there any easy way to script password tries for gpg on the command line?  Being the idiot that I am, I remember my key's passphrase... except for the (rather crucial) capitalization part...  Given the length of the passphrase, there's still well over 100 possible combinations, and I don't have the patience to sit there that long >_<
[05:21] <andrewfree> Hobz: yes its in my logs/messages
[05:21] <lockd> themurmish: there's a good chance it's listening only on loopback
[05:21] <basti> ziroday, will cheggit out
[05:21] <puff> Ah-hah, "sudo gparted /media/disk" (which is where the flash drive is mounted) says it's mounted read-only. WTF?
[05:21] <claytronic> themurmish: make sure Ruby is not set to only listen for local IP traffic
[05:21] <Hobz> andrewfree, is there an sdb1?
[05:21] <themurmish> lockd: How do I run nmap?
[05:21] <ziroday> puff: you have to unmount the drive first
[05:21] <lockd> themurmish: nmap localhost
[05:22] <themurmish> thx
[05:22] <puff> Doh!
[05:22] <puff> ziroday: Thanks.
[05:22] <themurmish> it only shows the following: PORT     STATE SERVICE
[05:22] <themurmish> 631/tcp  open  ipp
[05:22] <themurmish> 1527/tcp open  tlisrv
[05:22] <themurmish> 3001/tcp open  nessus
[05:22] <themurmish> 3306/tcp open  mysql
[05:22] <FloodBot1> themurmish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:22] <themurmish> 8000/tcp open  http-alt
[05:23] <ziroday> themurmish: please put multilined outputs in pastebin
[05:23] <ziroday> !pastebin | themurmish
[05:23] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: serial console, it lets you forward the console to a terminal (like xterm) on the host OS
[05:23] <puff> themurmish: I dont' know ruby's deal, but if you're setting it up in to work with apache, as is the case with java, then it's probably only accepting localhost connections on 3001 and apache should proxy to it using mod_proxy.
[05:23] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: otherwise, you won't have a way to copy and paste kernel errors
[05:24] <Stimp1> Request assistance with running ubuntu on my HP NC6000 laptop.
[05:24] <themurmish> Sorry for the multiline post. I hardly ever use IRC.
[05:24] <jaem> Stimp1: what's your problem?
[05:24] <puff> themurmish: Is that supposed to be ruby on port 3001 or some ruby app?
[05:24] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; ohhh..so xterm is a terminal??
[05:24] <puff> themurmish: e.g. ruby on rails?
[05:24] <lampe> hello
[05:24] <Stimp1> Dont know if it is a driver prob or what. I cannot seem to mount my Card reader on this thing
[05:25] <puff> themurmish: Also, you might want to check on #ruby for advice.
[05:25] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: actually a terminal emulator, like gnome-terminal, Terminal, rxvt, etc
[05:25] <themurmish> puff: Ok it seems we identified the problem. I will try to fid how to solve this myself sinc eit seems to be a Rails (yes) problem
[05:25] <lampe> can some one help me with eclipse and ruby?
[05:25] <themurmish> puff: Yeah I think so too. Thank you for helping me identify the problem!
[05:25] <lockd> themurmish: what exactly is this ruby server supposed to be doing anyway?
[05:25] <themurmish> lol another Ruby problem
[05:26] <ziroday> lampe: if we know whats wrong we can try
[05:26] <themurmish> lampe: What's the problem?
[05:26] <Flannel> jaem: There is.  gpg can be used with an option that'll accept a passphrase (or another that'll take it from stdin).  You can use something simple like clearsign to verify.
[05:26] <andrewfree> Hobz: yes there is sdb1
[05:26] <claytronic> a lot of interest in Ruby these days
[05:26] <lampe> i want to get eclipse work with ruby and i found a tut but the server dont work so i cant install ruby to eclipse
[05:26] <Hobz> andrewfree, qtparted might help
[05:26] <andrewfree> Hobz: its in /dev
[05:26] <Hobz> 0k
[05:27] <themurmish> lockd: I am running redmine (redmine.org) which is a project managment software. It has a bug with Google chrome taht I wnat to fix. therefore I have to reach t with my laptop since Chrome is not available on Ubuntu yet
[05:27] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; so which one do i use
[05:27] <Stimp1> I understand that it could be a specific problem with the computer i have but is there something I can do to see if the card reader is even working?
[05:27] <Flannel> jaem: Also, there's language bindings for gpg as well.
[05:27] <lockd> lampe: were you able to get RDT?
[05:27] <lampe> no
[05:27] <themurmish> lampe the server hosting the Eclipse plugin?
[05:27] <Hobz> andrewfree, how about an sdb2/3?
[05:28] <lockd> themurmish: and it is a standalone http server?
[05:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> right so, Im trying to burn the 8.10 Server iso
[05:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but Nero keeps complaining about block size
[05:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> something
[05:28] <andrewfree> Hobz: no thats the confusing part :/
[05:28] <lampe> http://updatesite.rubypeople.org/release this is what i got
[05:28] <lampe> but it dont work
[05:28] <themurmish> lockd: No as a Railsapp you have the choice bewteen diffeent servers. I am running Mongrel
[05:28] <Hobz> andrewfree, type mount in a terminal and see what's mounted, don't mind the loop stuff
[05:29] <kevin_zhong> genii: thanks! At least my screen is a 1024x768, although I have no drivers, so my refresh rate is at 0
[05:29] <lampe> can some one pls help :)
[05:29] <andrewfree> Hobz: no sdb 1,2, or 3.. figures they dont have a filesystem yet.
[05:29] <Hobz> andrewfree, what about sda?
[05:30] <themurmish> lampe Are you trying to install RadRails???
[05:30] <Hobz> andrewfree, sda might be your mom, then
[05:30] <andrewfree> nope
[05:30] <lampe> iam trying to develop ruby in eclipse
[05:30] <andrewfree> my mom is... let me look
[05:30] <lockd> themurmish: I'm searching for the listen option.. you might have better luck since you actually have the packages installed
[05:31] <andrewfree> yea my mom is not mounted
[05:31] <default_> nick booty
[05:31] <Hobz> andrewfree, run qtparted from the menu, that should give you a list of attached devices
[05:32] <claytronic> Anyone running Juanty?
[05:32] <andrewfree> much better
[05:32] <puff> claytronic: try #ubuntu+1
[05:32] <andrewfree> Hobz: got sda sdb and sdc
[05:32] <themurmish> lockd: Listen option?
[05:32] <lockd> themurmish: mongrel_rails start has the option -a, address to bind to
[05:32] <claytronic> puff: thanks!
[05:33] <andrewfree> Hobz: sdb is mine but there is only one partition... I created 3
[05:33] <puff> Keeerap.
[05:33] <lampe> hmmpf
[05:33] <Hobz> andrewfree, let's worry about that later.  Which step were you on?
[05:33] <lampe> cant get eclipse to deal with ruby ....
[05:33] <claytronic> puff: quiet in there
[05:33] <Heimark> Flare183: are you still around?
[05:33] <claytronic> puff: no other nicks
[05:34] <andrewfree> Hobz: creating a file system on partition one.
[05:34] <puff> So I tried to reformat the flash drive with gparted, which *seemed* to work, but when I ran usb-creator on it, usb-creator said it wasn't formatted.  However, usb-creator offered to format it for me, so I said "yes".
[05:34] <jaem> Flannel: thanks - I must have missed that when I was looking into it
[05:34] <lockd> themurmish: bind it to your external address, not to 127.0.0.1 or localhost
[05:34] <andrewfree> Hobz: aka root@bt:~# mke2fs /dev/sda1
[05:34] <Hobz> andrewfree, enter that command and see what happens.  Don't forget to change the device
[05:34] <puff> However, it failed again with the same error popup saying look at .usb-create.log, which when I look at it, gets as far as installing the boot
[05:34] <lampe> maybe aptana will work
[05:35] <puff> ...gets as far as "installing the bootloader to /dev/sdd1" and then exits with "Install command exited with code:: 256"
[05:35] <andrewfree> to sdb1
[05:35] <andrewfree> k
[05:35] <puff> Wtf?
[05:35] <themurmish> lockd Ok I will try to find out how to do this from Aptana RadRails. Thank you very much!
[05:36] <ghost3> any one know what the command is in dhcpd.conf that specifies to oply allow ip addresses to be provided to the network on that interface?
[05:37] <ghost3> i mean to specify the dhcp server to provide adresses strictly through one ethernet connection
[05:37] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh never mind
[05:37] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I had a corrupted download
[05:37] <Iceman_B^Ltop> :/
[05:37] <themurmish> ifconfig
[05:37] <Hobz> andrewfree, is the world ending?
[05:37] <themurmish> ups wrong window
[05:38] <Iceman_B^Ltop> The World Ends With You
[05:38] <andrewfree> Hobz: it looks all good :P
[05:38] <Hobz> awesome
[05:38] <themurmish> IT WORKS!
[05:38] <Hobz> Iceman_B^Ltop, that's pretty sage
[05:38] <regeya> it's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine
[05:38] <Iceman_B^Ltop> cookies for whoever got the reference
[05:38] <Iceman_B^Ltop> :)
[05:38] <regeya> swim out past the breakers, watch the world die
[05:38] <themurmish> lockd Thank you very much! You have been a greta help to me!
[05:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> no DS players around I guess :)
[05:39] <regeya> no more references to bad 90s songs I swear :->
[05:39] <Tophu>  I have a syntax question... when the menu.lst says "You can specify 'saved' instead of a number." should I edit to say     default     'saved'       or        default    saved
[05:39] <themurmish> lampe I can recomment aptana
[05:39] <andrewfree> Hobz: but what now? in the next step it asks for sda2... I dont have a two :(
[05:39] <Hobz> what does fdisk -l say?
[05:40] <puff> So, I'm building a little stand-alone network of 10 machines, all booting off usb keys, with a router and switch connecting them.
[05:40] <stormchas2000> Iceman_B^Ltop nope i am a PSP player myself
[05:40] <Tophu> anyone here familir with grub?
[05:40] <puff> However, I have no DNS server... is there a quick and dirty solution?
[05:40] <lockd> themurmish: yw
[05:40] <mrsteveman1> tophu: yes
[05:40] <puff> Does ubuntu/linux still support using a hosts file?
[05:41] <andrewfree> Hobz: Im so confused... its mounted as sdb1 but it says its FAT32.. did I not just change it to ext3
[05:41] <puff> Ah, looks like it does, cool.
[05:41] <lockd> Tophu: I believe if you say default saved, it'll default to the last used GRUB entry
[05:41] <Hobz> andrewfree, try the next command and see what happens
[05:42] <Iceman_B^Ltop> stormchas2000: the only thing I want to play on the PSP are DJMAX, Pangya and Idolm@ster =)
[05:42] <andrewfree> Hobz: using what drive?
[05:42] <Tophu> ahhh ok so I'm better off specifying 5 so it will always default to my vista drive ... thank you very much lockd
[05:42] <gogeta> hey guys im trying to install grub on my usb hd i have tryed grub-install /media/disk no good
[05:42] <Hobz> sdb2
[05:42] <andrewfree> Hobz: its asking for a different partition of the flash drive :/   mk
[05:42] <uvacav> is there any way to hide or make transparent the gnome panel applet handles?
[05:42] <Hobz> hmm
[05:42] <Tophu> anyone here play warhammer online in wine? I'm got a few questions about that I've been dieing to ask a live person (not getting help in the usual forums on on wineHQ.org)
[05:43] <Hobz> andrewfree, I'd say you got a bad partition there
[05:43] <andrewfree> :/
[05:43] <andrewfree> Ill try it anyways
[05:43] <andrewfree> yea
[05:43] <andrewfree> sdb2 does not exist.
[05:43] <ziroday> gogeta: try doing /dev/sdwhatever instead of /media/disk and also prepend sudo
[05:43] <andrewfree> I think my flash drive has a bad sector.. should I get a new drive and try again?
[05:44] <gogeta> ziroday said not a block device
[05:44] <ziroday> gogeta: can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please
[05:44] <PerryArmstrong> lockd..so you didnt tell me what part of C programming do i need to learn for programming  the kernel
[05:45] <lockd> Tophu: hmm Warhammer Online uses OpenGL so it'd be very likely to work
[05:45] <gogeta> opps disconencted myself
[05:45] <Tophu> I thought it used dx9
[05:45] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: programming in C without all the fancy features having an operating system gives you
[05:45] <PerryArmstrong> lockd UNIX??
[05:45] <Maslow> Hi. Do any of you have any idea what might cause FireFox to suddenly stop working? When I try to run it now it pops up in my taskbar like "Starting Firefox", then doesn't actually start =/
[05:46] <gogeta> Format of install_device not recognized is the error i get
[05:46] <Tophu> my problem is I followed the directions on winehq to do the custom compile and I can get the patcher to load and it logs in and even runs updates but when I click play it dies out trying to load into the game ... no processes left running
[05:46] <ziroday> Maslow: first do killall firefox, then do firefox
[05:46] <Hobz> andrewfree, you can do that.  Or you can do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1 count=1 bs=1024 to clear the drive and then try again
[05:46] <ziroday> gogeta: can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please
[05:46] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: you should know C extremely well for writing applications before you even think about kernel space
[05:46] <gogeta> firefox does not launch from the live cd
[05:47] <gogeta> so i cant pastbin
[05:47] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; i haven't found any books in our college library upon that
[05:47] <Maslow> Alright, "killall firefox" tells me no processes have been killed, then firefox tells me "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.1 and 1.9.0.*."
[05:47] <ziroday> gogeta: where are you trying to install grub too?
[05:47] <gogeta> ziroday usb hardrive
[05:47] <ziroday> Maslow: are you running jaunty?
[05:47] <ziroday> gogeta: then you don't need to be in the livecd
[05:47] <ziroday> gogeta: your normal ubuntu install will work fine
[05:47] <Maslow> ziroday: 8.10 I believe.
[05:47] <gogeta> ziroday linux is unbttable
[05:48] <Dreamglider> are there any RC simulators for linux/ubuntu ?
[05:48] <gogeta> ziroday it didnt install grub at all
[05:48] <andrewfree> Hobz: K round two
[05:48] <ziroday> Maslow: can you make sure you are fully updated/upgraded and then restart
[05:48] <gogeta> ziroday even the super grub cd refuses
[05:48] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I just installed Ubuntu from the Live CD, but the parition editor vanished, Where did it go and how do I get it back ?
[05:48] <jofo> anyone on a dell mini?
[05:49] <ziroday> gogeta: okay, when doing sudo fdisk -l can you look for your usb hard drive and note down the /dev/sd<something> path
[05:49] <ziroday> !anyone | jofo
[05:49] <clearscreen> Iceman_B^Ltop: gparted
[05:49] <Hobz> andrewfree, do that dd command anyway to wipe the drive, I think you may have had residual partitions tainting the last one
[05:49] <ziroday> Iceman_B^Ltop: you need to install it, do sudo apt-get install gparted
[05:49] <Iceman_B^Ltop> zero007h
[05:49] <andrewfree> Hobz: did it:P
[05:49] <Iceman_B^Ltop> zeroconf
[05:49] <Iceman_B^Ltop> hm
[05:49]  * Iceman_B^Ltop smacks windows
[05:49] <andrewfree> Hobz: looks liek it went well no errors
[05:49] <Hydro> :/
[05:50] <Hobz> andrewfree, dd?
[05:50] <Hydro> Anyone know why my USB mouse keeps freezing up randomly?
[05:50] <Hobz> be careful with dd, it can really mess you up.  I deletes without mercy, and data recovery is a pain.
[05:50] <gogeta> ziroday sdb 2 would be linux
[05:50] <ziroday> gogeta: okay, then do sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[05:50] <andrewfree> Hobz: yes, how can I completely rewipe it. when I tried to re do the partition thing sdb1 was still there.
[05:50] <gogeta> ould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device
[05:51] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; any names of books you know or are they available online
[05:51] <ziroday> gogeta: err, ubuntu is installed on that usb hard drive right?
[05:51] <Hobz> andrewfree, same command, lose the 1 on sdb
[05:51] <gogeta> yea
[05:51] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: well I don't know what books to suggest, and stuff like GTK and such changes so frequently I doubt a book would help too much
[05:51] <gogeta> dev/sdb2           16912       19343    19535040   83  Linux
[05:52] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: I believe there is an O' Reilly kernel development book
[05:52] <andrewfree> umm
[05:52] <ziroday> gogeta: okay, well you need to reinstall onto that usb hard drive
[05:52] <Hobz> andrewfree, so of=/dev/sdb instead of of=/dev/sdb1
[05:52] <gogeta> linux is there
[05:52] <ziroday> gogeta: how did you install to it last time?
[05:53] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; as lockd has mentioned that first we have to be strong with C that deals with kernel concepts or just before that...and i have seen that OReilly book kernel programming
[05:53] <andrewfree> Hobz: Umm it says building a new DOS disk label with disk identifier  some mess   changes will remain in memory only until you decide to write them.. WARNINGL invalid flag at 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)
[05:53] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: sorry I misread, I thought you were looking for a book to guide you in kernel development
[05:54] <puff> ziroday: I think he is, eventually :-).
[05:54] <Hobz> andrewfree, ok
[05:54] <mhiku> i cannot connect to my smtp
[05:54] <Hobz> andrewfree, do you have another usb stick handy?
[05:54] <puff> PerryArmstrong: What year are you in college?
[05:54] <h1d> hello. Does anyone know how I can add a second LDAP tree using openldap (on 8.10)? I've successfully added my first LDAP tree as dc=my,dc=com and such, but how can I add another as in dc=my2,dc=com on that? I've followed the ubuntu wiki and used dpkg-reconfigure slapd to get it started the first time, but using it again will actually just wipe the first tree
[05:54] <andrewfree> Hobz: yes, is that one just messed up?
[05:54] <gogeta> ziroday eh
[05:54] <mhiku> can someone help me debug it, i cannot connect to smtp using outlook
[05:55] <gogeta> ziroday same way
[05:55] <Hobz> andrewfree, it could be.  I'd switch to a new one, try formatting it under windows first.  for some reason that seems to help
[05:55] <ziroday> gogeta: as in...
[05:55] <gogeta> ziroday then used wingrub so iy didnt make cp unbottable
[05:55] <gogeta> xp
[05:55] <R0b0t1> How can I view the character map?
[05:55] <Iceman_B^Ltop> unbottable cp
[05:55] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; sure for kernel deelopment  but like i'll use an example....if you want to learn OOPS concepts you obvioulsy have to have some experience with C..similarly i before i learn kernel programming..i have learn things that come before that
[05:55] <andrewfree> Hobz: I have osx.. ill do fat32
[05:55] <Iceman_B^Ltop> *g*
[05:55] <PerryArmstrong> puff; i didnt get you
[05:55] <ziroday> gogeta: right, well I don't think you installed correctly. You need to reinstall with the livecd on that usb hard drive
[05:56] <Hobz> andrewfree, sure, or you can wipe it with dd
[05:56] <Hobz> fill it up with zeros
[05:56] <gogeta> ziroday i have
[05:56] <gogeta> ziroday twice
[05:56] <andrewfree> Hobz: I did that before when I got that error
[05:56] <Iceman_B^Ltop> shred works too, for wiping, no ?
[05:56] <ziroday> gogeta: and how did you do that? Using the live cd installer? Using USB startup disk creator?
[05:56] <gogeta> ziroday probly a beta bug
[05:56] <puff> PerryArmstrong:  I thought you said, earlier, that you were in school.
[05:56] <Hobz> Iceman_B^Ltop, it's nto as fast
[05:56]  * jeffwheeler is rather disappointed by the new login screen
[05:56] <jeffwheeler> (in the 9.04 beta)
[05:56] <ziroday> gogeta: also if you are running jaunty you shouldn't be here. You need to be in #ubuntu+1
[05:57] <Hobz> Iceman_B^Ltop, not looking for secure deletion either
[05:57] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ok
[05:57] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty questions/support/etc, Thanks
[05:57] <gogeta> ziroday seems qwith every new build beta gurb doesent work
[05:57] <puff> Hm... so when I installed the first USB key, it went pretty quickly, just a couple of minutes.  Then the next one went really slow, 10 minutes or more.   Maybe it somehow was in USB 2.0 at first and then switched over to USB 1.0?  How would I check?
[05:57] <PerryArmstrong> puff; i study at college...doing my graduation...BTech
[05:57] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: heh, thanks
[05:57] <ziroday> gogeta: well anyway, go to #ubuntu+1 for jaunty support
[05:57] <kom14_> HI
[05:58] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Okay, so you're almost done?
[05:58] <PerryArmstrong> puff; nope i still have 1 more year
[05:59] <puff> PerryArmstrong:  I was going to say that if you have a couple more years, take your time and figure out what sort of development work you are good at and enjoy doing.  If that's kernel work or operating system work, then fine, but if not, there are plenty of ways you could contribute doing application programming.
[06:00] <PerryArmstrong> puff; what kind of applications???
[06:00] <sirstan> porn is popular
[06:00] <R0b0t1> Is there a way to access a program like Window's Charmap?
[06:00] <ziroday> sirstan: not here it isn't. Please keep it friendly
[06:00] <bazhang> !ot > sirstan
[06:01] <andrewfree> Hobz: try two :/
[06:02] <sirstan> how do i upgrade 8,04 lts to 8,10?
[06:02] <ziroday> !upgrade | sirstan
[06:02] <PerryArmstrong> ubottu
[06:02] <Hobz> awesome, good luck
[06:02] <Iceman_B^Ltop> when I have a terminal and I set the background to "transparent", the system tries to fool me
[06:02] <andrewfree> Hobz: its showing up weird
[06:03] <andrewfree> even after reformat.
[06:03] <Iceman_B^Ltop> by placing the desktop wallpaper exactly in the same spot, instead of really becoming transparent
[06:03] <Iceman_B^Ltop> how do I fix this ?
[06:03] <Maslow> ziroday: Updating my system and restarting fixed the problem with firefox, thanks for the help :)
[06:03] <crdlb> Iceman_B^Ltop: that trick has been around forever, it's called fake transparency
[06:03] <crdlb> Iceman_B^Ltop: you must be using a compositing manager to have real transparency
[06:03] <sirstan> thx
[06:03] <bn2knowitall_> register williamson15
[06:03] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh
[06:03] <bn2knowitall_> register password
[06:04] <Iceman_B^Ltop> never mind then
[06:04] <diablo> i have no audio on ubuntu 8.10 i get No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[06:04] <Hobz> andrewfree, what's it showing?
[06:04] <bn2knowitall_> hmm
[06:04] <puff> PerryArmstrong: All kinds of applications.  You might look around for open source projects that need help and get started that way.
[06:04] <chuy_max> hey guys, is it theoretically possible to expand/shrink an ext3fs partition, or is there no conceivable way to make it possible using ext3fs?
[06:04] <bn2knowitall_> i can't register my name
[06:04] <andrewfree> it has a ton of shit about diffrnet physical/logical beginings
[06:04] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Or you might try to find a small project that you can get done on your own (or with help).
[06:04] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Here are two or three ideas:
[06:04] <bazhang> andrewfree, please watch the language
[06:05] <bazhang> !register > bn2knowitall_
[06:05] <salmon> quick noob question, so i need to know how to switch sound output from my sound card to onboard
[06:05] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Here's an idea I had just today - installing ubuntu still isn't as easy as it should be. You have to download the ISO, make sure you got the whole thing and it's not corrupted, download a CD burner, burn the CD.
[06:05] <dolo> im having some trouble with sound in quake wars
[06:06] <sirstan> puff: you CAN click "send me a free cd" :)
[06:06] <andrewfree> Hobz: ehh fixe dit
[06:06] <keith-> how easily does ms office install with the ubuntu packaged wine these days? because i used linux for years but went back to windows for school for msoffice... anyone had any major luck with it?
[06:06] <PerryArmstrong> puff; we have a GNU LINUX developers here in my locality...though its a bit far off..they have made an OS called eswecha for all engineering colleges in our state....like it contains all softwares that students require...so i wanted to contribute to the coding of OS...
[06:06] <sirstan> you also get some bumper stickers
[06:06] <ivan_> how can i get a update the kernel?
[06:06] <puff> sirstan: Yeah, but I want it to be even easier :-).  I want to make every ubuntu user a carrier :-).
[06:06] <sirstan> keith-: o2k3 installs i think. you'd be better off running vmware/vbox
[06:06] <puff> PerryArmstrong: There's a windows open source CD burner that the ubuntu install page recommends.  What if you wrapped the iso image in a windows EXE of the cd burner, sort of like a self-extracting zip file?
[06:06] <PerryArmstrong> puff;continue ith your idea
[06:07] <andrewfree> omg Hobz now it says unable to open sdb with fdisk.. wtf
[06:07] <keith-> ivan_: sudo apt-get update but if you want a custom then you have a shitton of extra steps
[06:07] <Hobz> unmount it
[06:07] <genii> ivan_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:07] <salmon> how do i switch sound output from a sound card to on board sound
[06:07] <Hobz> in fact, reboot
[06:07] <Heimark> alright, looking for a little help setting up an ftp server, just to connect one nix comp to another nix comp
[06:07] <sirstan> puff: developing windows apps to support Ubuntu seems strangly wrong still.
[06:07] <andrewfree> k
[06:07] <sirstan> Heimark: use SCP.
[06:07] <PerryArmstrong> puff; i dint quite understand with the exe part
[06:07] <puff> PerryArmstrong: And also made a "net install" version, where it's an EXE that includes the CD burner and will look at the machine to figure out the right iso to get, then fetches it and install sit.
[06:07] <keith-> sirstan: eh ok. i am kind of stuck on 2k7 atm. that's unforunate. i have seen some good reports online but can't really afford to install a new os atm if i can't keep it. i miss linux dearly. wish i had a bigger harddrive in this lappy
[06:07] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Do you know what a self-extracting zip file is?
[06:07] <caeroe> i disabled my onboard in bios, but that's just me
[06:07] <keith-> sirstan: thanks for the info
[06:08] <Hobz> andrewfree, you copy the OS directly from the live version to the HD, so change as little as possible while installing
[06:08] <puff> PerryArmstrong:  A similar idea would be a program to easily make custom live CDs (adding extra packages).
[06:08] <salmon> i didn't have any sound output options in my bios menu
[06:08] <Heimark> sirstan: ty, I'll give that a look
[06:08] <sirstan> keith-: i havent tried o2k7... if the interwebs say it works .. it works?
[06:08] <salmon> thats why im asking you guys/gals
[06:08] <PerryArmstrong> like the zip file extracts on its own/...i know only the mening
[06:09] <andrewfree> Hobz: I have no changed like anything
[06:09] <puff> PerryArmstrong: And yet another similar program would be something like the net install idea, only it would be a gnome application that is installed into your ubuntu system.   You're talking to a friend and they say they'd like to try ubuntu, so you just click "System/Admin/Make an Ubuntu Live CD"
[06:09] <sirstan> I am going to be travling for a while.. what command line parameters do i use with wget to download the internet?
[06:09] <puff> PerryArmstrong: A self-extracting zip file is where a relatively small "executable" (i.e a program.exe) is wrapped around a large chunk of data.
[06:09] <puff> The data would be the archive file.
[06:09] <PerryArmstrong> puff; you mean instsaall from another system
[06:10] <keith-> sirstan: i might just get a little drunk and give it a try to jaunty ... if i feel frisky
[06:10] <puff> You probably wouldn't be able to actually install from another system, because  you wouldn't be able to partition the target system's hard drive.
[06:10] <puff> But it'd be sweet to make it trivially easy to create a new Ubuntu CD.
[06:10] <dublisk> anyone here have ubuntu on an x58 system?
[06:10] <puff> One-click Ubuntu LiveCD creation.
[06:10] <caeroe> phewww... nothing was more frustrating then my tuner + mythtv.  i just had to quit
[06:10] <Heimark> Alright, I don't think SCP is what I'm looking for.
[06:11] <caeroe> i was getting nowhere after several hours
[06:11] <sirstan> Heimark: why not? it will transfer files between two machines
[06:11] <gogeta> heh
[06:11] <andrewfree> Hobz: should I use something else
[06:11] <lockd> Heimark: what are you trying to do?
[06:11] <gogeta> switched to my netbook
[06:11] <PerryArmstrong> puff; thats a very good idea....and i faced the problem as you said but i never got stuck with this idea...
[06:11] <Flannel> puff, PerryArmstrong: Mind taking the non-support to #ubuntu-offtopic?  Thanks
[06:11] <ash_> any new software in ubuntu?
[06:11] <andrewfree> it says WARNING GPT (GUID partition table) detected on sdb the util fdisk does not support GTP use GNU Parted
[06:11] <puff> Flannel: sure.
[06:11] <lockd> Heimark: trying to set up a file server?
[06:11] <Heimark> yes
[06:12] <Heimark> for personal use for the most part
[06:12] <PerryArmstrong> Flannel; are you human or bot??
[06:12] <puff> PerryArmstrong:  A person.
[06:12] <sirstan> Heimark: scp is a convenient and secure means for that.
[06:12] <lockd> Heimark: you probably want to use sftp, or just use scp
[06:12] <PerryArmstrong> puff; good for him
[06:12] <Hobz> andrewfree, instead on?
[06:12] <Hobz> of*
[06:12] <puff> How do I figure out if a USB device is USB 2.0 or 1?
[06:12] <puff> PerryArmstrong: /join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:12] <PerryArmstrong> puff; yes joined...i'll chat fromthere
[06:12] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Remember, open source is a community, not a product.  Being a good community member is what makes it work.
[06:13] <Heimark> I've used ftp before in "the other OS" but I'm only about a month into Ubuntu so I might need a crash course on SCP
[06:13] <sirstan> puff: lsusb -v
[06:13] <sirstan> Heimark: scp <file> user@host:/folder/
[06:14] <sirstan> or scp user@host:/folder/file .
[06:14] <Flannel> Heimark: Just use sftp.  It'll be transparent.
[06:14] <Heimark> I'll give that a look see
[06:14] <Flannel> PerryArmstrong: For the record, you're not currently in #ubuntu-offtopic, /join #ubuntu-offtopic will get you there though.
[06:15] <arshad> My sound volume is tooo low compared to Windows
[06:15] <arshad> whst do i need to do
[06:15] <arshad> ????
[06:15] <devon> does anyone know how or can link me to a site that explains how to run the flashplayer10 installer manually for ubuntu 8.10??
[06:15] <arshad> My sound volume is tooo low compared to Windows
[06:15] <PerryArmstrong> Flannel; thank you
[06:15] <arshad> whst do i need to do
[06:15] <arshad> ????
[06:15] <puff> sirstan: Harrum, so which field tells me if it's 2.0 or not?  bcdUSB?
[06:15] <sirstan> i think so?
[06:15] <ghindo> How can I tell if my laptop supports Ubuntu 64-bit?
[06:16] <sirstan> ghindo: what cpu do you have?
[06:16] <iceroot> devon: why running manually if it is in the repos?
[06:16] <devon> it is?
[06:16] <iceroot> ghindo: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:16] <ghindo> sirstan: An Intel Core 2 Duo T7100
[06:16] <devon> i couldnt get youtube vids to play
[06:16] <iceroot> devon: of course
[06:16] <sirstan> ghindo: then you can run 64bit.
[06:16] <sirstan> ghindo: how much ram do you have?
[06:16] <iceroot> !flash | devon
[06:16] <devon> 1 gig
[06:17] <ghindo> sirstan: 2 Gigs
[06:17] <sirstan> ghindo: then why do you want 64bit?
[06:17] <devon> ok
[06:17] <devon> thanks :)
[06:17] <ghindo> sirstan: I dunno.  I just saw some people on the forums talkin' about it and wondered if it was worth a try
[06:18] <iceroot> ghindo: no, 64bit has some problems and also you dont need it with lees then 4gb ram
[06:18] <sirstan> ghindo: you wont have any benefit with < 4gb ram.. and even with 4gb its marginal (3.5->4gb)
[06:18] <mrsteveman1> you don't NEED 64bit either way, with PAE even a 32bit os can use more ram than 4gb
[06:18] <sirstan> ghindo: but go ahead... it WILL work.
[06:18] <arshad> My sound volume is tooo low compared to Windows
[06:19] <arshad> whst do i need to do
[06:19] <arshad> ????
[06:19] <ghindo> iceroot, sirstan:  Cool, thank you for your information and help!
[06:19] <mrsteveman1> there are other advantages to 64bit operation though, more registers is a big one
[06:19] <lockd> arshad: perhaps maximize the volume in alsa itself
[06:19] <iceroot> mrsteveman1: yes pae supports more then 4gb ram but not more then 4gb ram for ONE process
[06:19] <arshad> how to do that
[06:19] <arshad> lockd
[06:19] <arshad> ???
[06:19] <lockd> mrsteveman1: yeah, but pae causes overhead
[06:20] <lockd> arshad: I'll have to check, not using alsa currently
[06:20] <lockd> arshad: alsamixer -c 0
[06:20] <Guest17483> what is "formatting language" for text processors?
[06:21] <arshad> wheres the location
[06:21] <arshad> so i can change
[06:21] <arshad> lockd
[06:21] <arshad> Location of Alsamixer
[06:22] <gartral> ok... webcam error, my cam worked yesterday, and not today, its seen by ubuntu, but nothing seems to think its availible, dmesg says usb 2-1.3.1: usb_submit_urb() failed, error -28, i belive thats my webcam, as thats the most recent change after replugging it
[06:22] <iceroot> arshad: its in the PATH, so just type the command
[06:22] <lockd> alsamixer should be installed, unless Ubuntu switched from alsa which I highly doubt
[06:22] <iceroot> lockd: pulseaudio in newer versions imo
[06:22] <lockd> arshad: it's in your path, so in Gnome-terminal type 'alsamixer -c 0' sans quotes
[06:23] <lockd> iceroot: yeah, but it still uses alsa as the backend
[06:23] <iceroot> lockd: ok
[06:23] <lockd> iceroot: and that's the issue... the mixers hide the alsa values, causing things to be muted or lowered
[06:23] <iceroot> lockd: yes i have this on my netbook, the mixer in the panel is different to my hotkeys (fn)
[06:24] <lockd> currently I'm using OSS. it's all that works with my hardware, and as of jaunty it's integrated quite well
[06:24] <ash_> any recommended new apps for ubuntu?
[06:24] <iceroot> ash_: ??
[06:25] <ash_> looking for new apps
[06:25] <iceroot> ash_: for what?
[06:25] <_VIM_> ash_:  that's a very broad subject
[06:25] <sirstan> #ubuntu0day?
[06:25] <arshad> ok got it
[06:25] <ash_> anything
[06:25] <arshad> but unable to increase the volume
[06:25] <arshad> by mouse
[06:25] <iceroot> ash_: apt-cache search * | more   and have fun
[06:25] <arshad> lockd
[06:26] <arshad> ok got it
[06:26] <arshad> but unable to increase the volume
[06:26] <arshad> lockd
[06:26] <FloodBot1> arshad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:26] <sirstan> during server install i didnt install the lamp package.  is there a one step command to instlal php apache etc?
[06:26] <sirstan> apt-get install lamp-server ?
[06:26] <iceroot> sirstan: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql
[06:27] <gartral> ok... webcam error, my cam worked yesterday, and not today, its seen by ubuntu, but nothing seems to think its availible, dmesg says usb 2-1.3.1: usb_submit_urb() failed, error -28, i belive thats my webcam, as thats the most recent change after replugging it
[06:27] <iceroot> sirstan: mysql-server it is called
[06:27] <lockd> arshad: I'm currenly using mercurial opensound, so not much I can do to help. nor can I recommend installing anything else
[06:27] <sirstan> the lamp package installed a bit more than thta though...
[06:27] <lstarnes> sirstan: you could also try sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[06:27] <iceroot> sirstan: lamp = linux apache mysql php :) so apache2 php5 mysql-server
[06:27] <sirstan> thanks lstarnes
[06:28] <lstarnes> iceroot: I don't think the php5 package includes the php5 module for apache
[06:28] <zaccour> ok i just got me a switch
[06:28] <sirstan> iceroot: he lap task installs more fun stuff.
[06:28] <iceroot> lstarnes: it does
[06:28] <zaccour> how come the network switch only works when its unplugged??
[06:30] <QPrime> zaccour: surely you don't expect an answer for that question.
[06:30] <lockd> arshad: what sound card do you have, anyway?
[06:31] <arshad> can i use Mercurial Open Sounf
[06:31] <arshad> Sigmatel Audio
[06:31] <zaccour> QPrime, actually its not what it seemed
[06:31] <arshad> my sound card is Sigmatel Audio
[06:31] <QPrime> zaccour: clarify :)
[06:32] <zaccour> i have my ethernet cable plugged into the switch, and it connects auto etho when unplugged, but when i plug in the ac adapter it disconnects it
[06:32] <lockd> arshad: hmm, OSS probably supports STAC better. OSS just had a release recently so you actually can, but you might want to ask on #linux
[06:32] <zaccour> and at no time is it transmitting the signal to my ps3
[06:32] <xenile> hey guys how do i make metacity my default window manager perminantly?
[06:32] <arshad> how do i got to #linux
[06:32] <lockd> arshad: as Ubuntu probably won't support that
[06:32] <lstarnes> arshad: /join #linux
[06:32] <blue__> hello There is the chinese people will say it?
[06:33] <lstarnes> arshad: although technically it's ##linux but #linux points there
[06:33] <iceroot> !vnc devon
[06:33] <iceroot> !vnc | devon
[06:33] <grug> !fatdongs | grug
[06:33] <Ethereal> anyone know how to access ubuntu 8.10 ext3 fs partitions under vista 64 bit?
[06:33] <QPrime> zaccour: prolly not an ubuntu issue... I'll msg you.
[06:34] <iceroot> Ethereal: install ext3 drivers
[06:34] <sirstan> Ethereal: vmware?
[06:34] <zaccour> QPrime, ok
[06:34] <Ethereal> iceroot: There are ext3 drivers for 64 bit vista? that work with ubuntu 8.10 ?
[06:34] <xenile> hey guys how do i make metacity my default window manager perminantly?
[06:34] <Guest17483> what is "formatting language" for text processors?
[06:34] <iceroot> Ethereal: they dont have to work with ubuntu, just have to work with windows :)
[06:34] <iceroot> Ethereal: and yes there are 64bit ext3 drivers
[06:35] <Ethereal> iceroot: the default block size of ubuntu 8.10 ext3 fs stops most of the windows tools from working with it, like explore2fs
[06:35] <gogeta> Ethereal ext drivers for windows are pretty unstable
[06:35] <Ethereal> iceroot: do you have a link by any chance?
[06:35] <xenile> hey guys how do i make metacity my default window manager perminantly?
[06:35] <sirstan> whats everyones fetish with 64bit os's
[06:35] <iceroot> Ethereal: sorry only google
[06:35] <Ethereal> >4gb memory space.
[06:35] <iceroot> sirstan: they think its faster or better, dont know
[06:35] <eper3z> hehe
[06:35] <xenile> actualy its slower
[06:35] <xenile> it just looks pretier
[06:36] <siggy_> #rewt c0wsm00
[06:36] <iceroot> sirstan: higher number must be better
[06:36] <sirstan> Ethereal: you need >4gb per app?
[06:36] <eper3z> hehe
[06:36] <gogeta> sirstan very large ram support like 128gb
[06:36] <eper3z> i want to do 16gb ram and give 8gb to vbox
[06:36] <Ethereal> sirstan: it's not 4gb per app, it's 4gb total.
[06:36] <eper3z> :)
[06:36] <Ethereal> you can't have more than 4gb ram on a 32 bit system.
[06:36] <iceroot> Ethereal: with pae its 4gb per app
[06:36] <Ethereal> I have 16.
[06:36] <gogeta>  sirstan all new prossers support 64bit even my little atom
[06:36] <sirstan> Ethereal: not true
[06:36] <xenile> hey guys how do i make metacity my default window manager perminantly?
[06:36] <iceroot> Ethereal: on 32bit
[06:36] <eper3z> etherreal what OS do u use
[06:36] <iceroot> !repeat | xenile
[06:37] <sirstan> gogeta: doesnt mean you need a 64bit os :)
[06:37] <iceroot> xenile: choose at the login screen the session you want
[06:37] <xenile> sigh its a easy question tho :( i know i did it befor i just forget
[06:37] <xenile> nono thats what it
[06:37] <xenile> metacity is a windowmanager
[06:37] <xenile> theirs a command
[06:37] <xenile> like metacity options- v or something
[06:37] <gogeta> sirstan well if your pc has the abilty why not take advantage of it
[06:37] <Ethereal> iceroot: vista still only gives you 4gb, even with PAE.
[06:38] <sirstan> gogeta: becuase theres no advantage.
[06:38] <sirstan> unless  you have 16gb ram :)
[06:38] <iceroot> Ethereal: yes but we are talking only about good systems
[06:38] <lstarnes> xenile: try going to system > preferences > appearance > visual effects > none
[06:38] <gogeta> sirstan better multithreding large ram support
[06:38] <gogeta>  sirstan so there is
[06:38] <iceroot> gogeta: 64bit has better multithreading?
[06:39] <sirstan> gogeta: needing over 4gb ram is still a special use case
[06:39] <gogeta> iceroot yea mre threds
[06:39] <Ethereal> iceroot: I'm not.. You said "why use 64 bit?" and I was specifically talking about vista, so, there's a pretty obvious reason, it'd be like saying "anyone know where to buy a new snowboard?" and then you respond with "Why snowboard? Snowmobiles are so much better"
[06:39] <gogeta> more
[06:39] <nemera> hi all
[06:39] <Heimark> isn't there a bit of a gap between hardware capabilities and OS capabilities right now?
[06:39] <iceroot> Ethereal: have not read you mean vista, because we are in #ubuntu so i thoughj you mean linux
[06:39] <xenile> wow that was easy
[06:39] <xenile> figured it out
[06:39] <nemera> i got a question about a computer ill gonna buy monday... this will look stupid for you prolly
[06:39] <xenile> thx anyway guys
[06:40] <sirstan> Ethereal: people have just been pooping their pants over 64bit.. im sure 0.5% of users have >4gb ram and 0.025 need to ever use more than 4b.
[06:40] <sirstan> gb
[06:40] <gogeta> iceroot i love my atom in 64bit mode apps fly
[06:40] <Ethereal> iceroot: The question was "how do you access ext3 fs partitions created with ubuntu 8.10 under 64 bit vista" how can you not read the very last word of the sentence? :)
[06:40] <nemera> on a server computer with 2 proc, should i ll put the 2 same cpu inside ?
[06:40] <sirstan> nemera: you NEED to put the smae cpu.
[06:40] <nemera> ( for installing a Kubuntu 64bits on
[06:40] <nemera> thanks
[06:40] <iceroot> Ethereal: because i am chatting with more then one people and dont remeber all words in here, i am sorry
[06:40] <puff> So... here's a question, I've been configuring these Ubuntu Live CD USB flash drives to just use all the available space for persistence.
[06:40] <sirstan> nemera: and their stepping needs to be matched usually
[06:41] <nemera> ok
[06:41] <Just4Now> is anyone in here blackbelt level?
[06:41] <puff> However, I have to get a good whack of stuff *on* to those things.
[06:41] <nemera> and for a server how many ram should ill have ?
[06:41] <nemera> 4Go ?
[06:41] <puff> About 500 MB.
[06:41] <nemera> with ubuntu
[06:41] <bazhang> !ot > Just4Now
[06:41] <sirstan> nemera: atleast 32mb
[06:41] <nemera> hehe ok
[06:41] <iceroot> nemera: depending on what the server does
[06:41] <sirstan> nemera: 4gb costs $25 these days? why nt
[06:41] <nemera> irc, webmail , apache
[06:42] <nemera> well a bit more costly for server ram it seems
[06:42] <everthonvaladao> if I remove ALL gnome-panels, how do I re-create one?
[06:42] <Just4Now> ubottu, i don' tknow what that means lol
[06:42] <gogeta>  nemera lol a commdor 64 can do that
[06:42] <chuy_max> !cube
[06:42] <nemera> hehe ok thanks :)
[06:42] <puff> So... is it possible to write data into the persistent storage?
[06:42] <sirstan> nemera: why are yo buying a dual cpu box to run webmail and irc on? :)
[06:42] <Heimark> haha
[06:42] <gogeta>  nemera you whont need alot of power
[06:42] <zaccour> QPrime, i figured it out thanks anyway
[06:43] <QPrime> k
[06:43] <gogeta>  nemera get a atom server box dirt cheap
[06:43] <sirstan> nemera: get a intel atom low power box for that ...
[06:43] <nemera> ah and another question ... i moved from my ubuntu 8.10 to kubuntu ( basically i just installed kde and kubuntu package) and i have big computer lag its normal?
[06:43] <gogeta> lol
[06:43]  * sirstan high fives gogeta
[06:43] <zaccour> QPrime, but what i cant figure out is why it wont connect to my ps3
[06:43] <nemera> well the computer have to manage virtualization as well
[06:43] <zaccour> ill call sony about that one later
[06:43] <nemera> its a student project ^^
[06:43] <sirstan> nemera: what are you virtualizig?
[06:43] <gogeta>  nemera atom are 64bit multithreding
[06:43] <nemera> the baddest os we all know
[06:44] <puff> Is it possible to write data to a USB flash drive with Ubuntu LiveCD installed on it, *without* booting from that same flash drive?
[06:44] <sirstan> nemera: so you probbly want 4-8 or even 16gb ram then
[06:44] <gogeta>  nemera they can handel vmware fine
[06:44] <vincentpsp2> y a des fr
[06:44] <nemera> oui moi vincent
[06:44] <sirstan> atom cpus are slower than death
[06:44] <nemera> thanks
[06:44] <bazhang> vincentpsp2, #ubuntu-fr
[06:44] <nemera> so a dual xeon 3.6ghz with 16g of ram should od it :)
[06:44] <|v|aster> can anyone here connect to www.milw0rm.com i keep getting the error "Bad Response From Server"
[06:44] <vincentpsp2> ok merci
[06:44] <gogeta> sirstan what!
[06:44] <sirstan> nemera:  yes
[06:44] <nemera> woot :)
[06:44] <bazhang> !ot
[06:44] <caeroe> heh.... i borked /etc/rc.local on my desktop  :)
[06:44] <gogeta> sirstan my atom flys
[06:44] <sirstan> gogeta: an atom 3300 gets its but kicked by an intel p4d 3ghz
[06:44] <bazhang> take the hardware chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:44] <sirstan> 330*
[06:45] <nemera> well i guess next year i ll present a search motor on a netbook
[06:45] <gogeta> sirstan oh a old one befor 64bit
[06:45] <QPrime> zaccour: auto-ned on a switch can sometimes fail for various reasons.  sometimes its as (simple/stupid) as improper implimentstion of the auto-negotiation protocol.  If the switch is a managed switch you can try and force duplex/speed.
[06:45] <gogeta> sirstan the 450 smokes
[06:45] <QPrime> auto-ned=auto-neg
[06:45] <eladmeidar> hi guys, can anyone point me to where i can see from which ip user was logged in to a ubuntu 8.04 server ?
[06:45] <zaccour> QPrime, i dont know what you are talking about
[06:45] <sirstan> gogeta: benchmark url?
[06:45] <nemera> thanks for all guys :)
[06:45] <sirstan> eladmeidar: 'who' or 'w'
[06:46] <gogeta> sirstan old first gen atoms where slow
[06:46] <sirstan> gogeta: benchmark url?
[06:46] <gogeta> sirstan the new ones preform
[06:46] <Iceman_B^Ltop> does anyone know some souped up version of the "copy" command which shows a progress bar per file and an ETA for the total job ?
[06:46] <gogeta> lol
[06:46] <Iceman_B^Ltop> from the commandline that is
[06:46] <eladmeidar> sirstan: that's for the current user? and if i want to see like, in the past week ?
[06:46] <bazhang> gogeta sirstan please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[06:46] <QPrime> zaccour: then change the cables and if that will not work get a different brand of switch.
[06:46] <sirstan> eladmeidar: 'last'
[06:46] <JustKemp> ps3 is GGGGGGGAY
[06:46] <JustKemp> GAY
[06:47] <eladmeidar> sirstan: thnx... no way that some other user, say root will clear it ?
[06:47] <sirstan> bad words bad words.
[06:47] <bazhang> JustKemp, stop that
[06:47] <JustKemp> xbox 360 is far superior
[06:47] <sirstan> eladmeidar: its trivial for a root user to clear last, or any other logs.
[06:47] <JustKemp> anybody who picks ps3 over xbox must be retarded
[06:47] <eladmeidar> sirstan: mmm, ok... thnx!
[06:47] <mccord42> I have a strange problem with the display on my laptop.  you can see it here http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4492/screenshot1iyp.png  the really weird thing is that the mouse still works in the correct locations. the display is off, but the icons and buttons are still clickable in the correct part of the screen
[06:48] <Just4Now> or they must want to play blue ray
[06:48] <mccord42> anyone have any ideas
[06:48] <zaccour> QPrime, perhaps i should just return it and pay $10 more for a wireless router
[06:48] <bazhang> JustKemp, stay on topic
[06:48] <JustKemp> sorry
[06:48] <sirstan> mccord42:  if you move the mouse to the right does it loop to the left?
[06:48] <mccord42> sirstan no
[06:49] <JustKemp> i just got ubuntu last night
[06:49] <sirstan> mccord42 whats the problem?
[06:49] <QPrime> zaccour: always an option...
[06:49] <JustKemp> after deleting windows by mistake
[06:49] <puff> How do I copy data to a USB flash drive that has been installed with ubuntu live CD?
[06:49] <Ethereal> Nope, nothing works at all by the look of it.. no ext3 partitions from 64 bit vista if they were created in ubuntu 8.10 :/
[06:49] <zaccour> QPrime, im gonna bring it back and exchange, ill be back within 30 minutes
[06:49] <JustKemp> its ok, its just more difficult
[06:49] <mccord42> sirstan, did you look at the image?
[06:49] <sirstan> mccord42: yea it looks normal to m
[06:49] <QPrime> zaccour: good luck.
[06:49] <zaccour> QPrime, thanks
[06:50] <puff> e.g. where do I put it so it'll show up when I boot from the flash drive?
[06:50] <mccord42> sirstan, look again at the left 1/3 http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4492/screenshot1iyp.png
[06:50] <sirstan> mccord42: is something wrong with it?
[06:51] <lunkhead> i use tracetoute ,but it gives me "*" ,why?
[06:51] <mrsteveman1> lunkhead: some routers don't send back data
[06:51] <genii> lunkhead: Those machines don't volunteer info to programs like ping/traceroute etc
[06:51] <sirstan> mccord42: uhg.. if you move your mouse to the far right it will loop back to the left then?
[06:51] <mccord42> sirstan, the whole display is moved over to the right and wrapped on the left
[06:51] <sirstan> mccord42: your monitor sync is off
[06:51] <mccord42> sirstan, no
[06:51] <mccord42> it's a laptop lcd
[06:52] <lunkhead> Oh, Thank you
[06:52] <sirstan> mccord42 google the model and see if someone has directions on what modelines to use for it
[06:52] <dan457> Or  check it in vesa mode first
[06:52] <Rave1_> toshiba 430cdt
[06:53] <Just4Now> basic problem.   one distro of linux correctly identifies the onboard chipset and loads the kernel drivers with no problem.  another distro of linux has the same kernel, but failed to load drivers.  Presumably due to device id's.  Any ideas where device id's are defined?
[06:54] <sirstan> why doesnt anyone make dual socket workstations anymore
[06:55] <lunkhead> How can i get the routers infor?
[06:55] <JustKemp> also i need help. im not sure if this is a help channel, but here goes. i have a 'canon MP240' printer. it worked fine on xp, but it doesnt work on ubuntu. i got the ppd or wateva file and used it but it still said i was missing a file. does anyone know how i can make this printer work???
[06:55] <mashman> lspci lunkhead
[06:56] <|v|aster> JustKemp, drivers
[06:56] <JustKemp> yeah i got them
[06:56] <JustKemp> then found the file i needed and used it
[06:56] <JustKemp> still didnt work
[06:56] <Just4Now> where is the association defined between a device id and the driver file
[06:56] <JustKemp> oh
[06:56] <JustKemp> my bad
[06:57] <davidguard> quick and stupid question: how do I switch from tty1 to tty2 to tty3 etc from within bash. I just can't remember
[06:57] <wers> where can i find nice transparent panel backgrounds? :D
[06:57] <sirstan>  alt+Fx
[06:57] <sirstan> where x is 1-3
[06:57] <davidguard> sirstan: thanks.
[06:58] <FluffyBehemoth> how do i get online with ubuntu 8.10? i use a modem-router that i connect to via ethernet, windows connects fine, in theory all i need to do is get linux to see my router and i'll be online
[06:58] <Elone> question: what is the script responsible for suspend to RAM?
[06:58] <FluffyBehemoth> i've looked at many forums and tried lots of things but nothing's helped, any help would be great, one thread suggested that nForce4 mobos could be a problem
[06:59] <sirstan> FluffyBehemoth: does your ethernet adapter work in ubuntu?
[06:59] <dan457> I have a nforc4 MB in one of my boxes, works perfectly.
[06:59] <FluffyBehemoth> not sure, i think if it did i'ld be online
[06:59] <Just4Now> lunkhead, what was it you needed to know about a router?
[07:00] <sirstan> FluffyBehemoth: .... heh ok
[07:00] <mashman> is linux-386 package already in ubuntu 8.10 ???
[07:00] <lstarnes> mashman: what is linux-386?
[07:00] <mashman> for dial modem
[07:00] <mashman> dial up*
[07:01] <mashman> i got problem with my connection upon using dial up i have a lucent winmodem but the driver is not yet installed
[07:01] <dan457> winmodem?  is so try http://linmodems.org/ for info
[07:01] <mashman> i tried that
[07:01] <lstarnes> mashman: what about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto ?
[07:02] <paultje> moin an alle. habe probleme mit ubuntu9. beta video player (totem) bricht immer ab ?
[07:02] <mashman> i tried that also
[07:02] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[07:02] <dan457> You may have one of the chipsets not suppored?  not sure where else to send you.
[07:02] <Alex_21> Good night
[07:03] <mashman> ok dan457
[07:03] <FluffyBehemoth> i also have 2 auto eth0s even though i didn't add one
[07:03] <genii> !de | paultje
[07:03] <paultje> ok danke
[07:04] <dan457> mashman, if it's a desktop, maybe you could just ask around for one from a friend.  A different one will prob work ok.
[07:04] <dan457> Most people don't even know what they are anymore.. lol
[07:05] <mashman> yah
[07:05] <mashman> i just read some new thread about dial up :)
[07:06] <genii> mashman: winmodems are a royal pain to set up
[07:06] <genii> (especially Conexants)
[07:07] <FluffyBehemoth> so am i right in thinking that getting linux online with a modem-router via ethernet "should" be easy right?
[07:11]  * everthon is curious...
[07:11] <everthon> if i remove ALL my gnome-panels, how do i reopen one after?
[07:11] <mosno> everthon: you can't remove the last one
[07:12] <everthon> hum... i was afraid to do it, so...
[07:12] <everthon> better ask before cracking the thigs!
[07:12] <mosno> everthon: make a new user account for testing
[07:13] <mosno> everthon: then Switch User into it
[07:13] <sagredo> where is the file for the clipboard?
[07:14] <|v|aster> !botabuse
[07:15] <|v|aster> sry, wrong box yall
[07:15] <Privetik> îõ åá
[07:15] <genii> !ru | Privetik
[07:16] <Privetik> thx)
[07:16] <Privetik> y vas vidimo UTF-8?
[07:24] <t_> Hi guys, anyone available?
[07:24] <bluenzo^nix> it actually is quiet...odd
[07:24] <Sapta> Do swap and root both need to be on primary HD partitions?
[07:24] <bluenzo^nix> ask ur question, maybe sum1 can help
[07:25] <Sapta> *separate primary HD partitions?
[07:25] <Dunkin> Sapta: I normally set both as primary
[07:25] <t_> I'm getting tired of having to type my usr-name and password every time I log on to my computer. How do I stop that?
[07:26] <t_> I mean, this is linux after all.  that customization should be possible
[07:27] <Hyren> hrmmm, I think it's on the forum, but I don't recall how to off the top of my head
[07:27] <Dunkin> t go to system >administration > login window
[07:27] <Sapta> Actually I am having problem creating primary partitions, max limit has been reached.
[07:27] <Dunkin> and then go to security tab
[07:27] <Dunkin> to enable auto login
[07:28] <Sapta> it's a dell laptop, has too many primary partitions. Anyone here has  a dell laptop?
[07:28] <Dunkin> Sapta are you dual booting?
[07:28] <dayo> Sapta: you can only create 4 primary partitions
[07:28] <Sapta> yes
[07:28] <chengchang> i  have a Dell laptop
[07:28] <jdimond> I have a Dell as well
[07:29] <Dunkin> Acer 6920 :P
[07:29] <chengchang> it is  inspiration 1420
[07:29] <Dunkin> def not linux friendly
[07:29] <Dunkin> but it is now
[07:30] <chengchang> I think linux is wonderful
[07:30] <chengchang> i use Ubuntu
[07:30] <chengchang> fedora
[07:30] <chengchang> gOS
[07:30] <Hyren> it's ok ;P
[07:30] <Sapta> I have Vista on a primary partition, Dell diagnostic on a 78 mb primary partition, an extended partition(which also counts as primary, I guess) and one I just created for swap space
[07:30] <Sapta> so that makes 4 primary partitions
[07:30] <Sapta> now I need a root directory partion
[07:31] <Hyren> I'd just delete the dell one, those things are uneless anyway
[07:31] <chengchang> you can 't do like that
[07:31] <Guest37246> how is gos??
[07:31] <chengchang> good OS
[07:31] <bazhang> !ot
[07:31] <Tophu> is there an easy way to completely remove wine from my system if I compiled from source?
[07:31] <Sapta> yep, I already deleted Media direct. So was wondering 2 things
[07:31] <chengchang> hehe
[07:31] <chengchang> i now use  ubuntu
[07:32] <clearscreen> Tophu: there might be an 'uninstall' section in it's Makefile
[07:32] <chengchang> and gOS  based  ubuntu hardy
[07:32] <Guest37246> just installled it tonight
[07:32] <Sapta> 1. Can I delete the dell diagnostic partition and use the CD that came  with my system?
[07:32] <clearscreen> Tophu: if there isn't you're going to try to delete stuff manually
[07:33] <Sapta> 2. Do I need to put root in a primary partition?
[07:33] <Guest37246> tried 64 bit on sony vaio vgn sz750b  but lock ups, tried 32 bit and so far so good
[07:33] <dayo> Sapta: there's no problem with creating root on an extended partition
[07:33] <Dunkin> Tophu go to the source dir where you compiled and run sudo make uninstall
[07:33] <afallenhope> hey anyone have the default sysctl.conf located in /etc/ufw/ ? that they can send me please?
[07:33] <chengchang> yes
[07:33] <Tophu> @clearscrern thanks ^_^ I'm sort of a noon and I'm on irc from my phone. can you give me a link to a tutorial on how to find that uninstaller?
[07:33] <dayo> Sapta: on this laptop, swap and /home are on primaries, while root is on extended
[07:33] <clearscreen> Tophu: exactly what Dunkin just said
[07:34] <clearscreen> Tophu: just get source, and instead of compiling, just hit 'sudo make uninstall'
[07:34] <Tophu> @dublin thanks I'll try that ^_^ I sec gotta vnc in
[07:34] <Sapta> dayo: that's a solution. Do I need /home? And I do, does it need to be on primary partition?
[07:34] <Tophu> stupid iPhone auto type grr
[07:34] <clearscreen> Tophu: been there :(
[07:35] <Dunkin> Sapta you just need to have a / partion sub directories will be created within
[07:35] <lstarnes> Sapta: yes, you need a /home.  it can be on any type of partition.  if you don't put it on a partition, it will automatically be made on your root partition
[07:35] <Tophu> ok back in a flash huray for vnc
[07:35] <jdimond> afallenhope: its on its way
[07:35] <dayo> Sapta: i put /home on a primary, because i want to be able to retain my data, in case i need to reinstall. but no, u do not need to explicitly create /home. it would be created for u under /
[07:35] <devon> how do i install a tgz fuke
[07:36] <afallenhope> !pastbin > jdimond
[07:36] <devon> file*
[07:36] <afallenhope> !paste > jdimond
[07:36] <lstarnes> Sapta: although keeping it on a separate partition will make it easier to back up and would allow you to keep it more easily if you decided to change distributions
[07:36] <lstarnes> devon: first, extract the file with tar xzf file.tgz
[07:36] <pawan1234> hi
[07:36] <Guest37246> hey
[07:36] <pawan1234> looking for xampp for ubuntu
[07:36] <lstarnes> devon: then, cd to the directory created by that command and look for a readme or install file
[07:37] <devon> how would i do that first step
[07:37] <bazhang> !xampp > pawan1234
[07:37] <quibbler> afallenhope-> http://pastebin.com/m5cb014a0
[07:37] <devon> istnarnes
[07:37] <devon> istarnes*
[07:37] <lstarnes> devon: L
[07:37] <lstarnes> devon: go to applications > accessories > terminal
[07:37] <devon> im there
[07:37] <clearscreen> pawan1234: xampp is an old and unmaintained project, if you're looking for something similar, try audacious
[07:37] <micahg> had a problem with my video drivers, rebooted into the diagnostic kernel and was able to get root access w/out a password
[07:37] <devon> i have the terminal open
[07:38] <devon> and the tgz file on my desktop
[07:38] <devon> package*
[07:38] <devon> but theres no install file in it
[07:38] <lstarnes> devon: now type cd Desktop
[07:38] <pawan1234> i want to intall phpbb3 on my system
[07:38] <lstarnes> devon: after that, use the first command I gave you
[07:39] <devon> ok
[07:39] <Psuedo> Greetings
[07:40] <Psuedo> Does/Will ext4 have backwards compatibility with ext3 and ext2?
[07:40] <maximo_> thats it for tonight ( ta, ta, ta, )
[07:40] <dayo> Psuedo: u should probably ask in the dev channel
[07:40] <lstarnes> Psuedo: it has backwards compatibility for ext3
[07:40] <Psuedo> But not ext2?
[07:40] <Psuedo> (need it for Windows Driver)
[07:40] <lstarnes> Psuedo: if it is fully compatible with ext3, that likely includes ext2
[07:41] <Psuedo> do you know for sure?
[07:41] <micahg> Psuedo: If you'
[07:42] <micahg> re accessing from windows, you're probably better off waiting till 9.10
[07:42] <kevsthabest> question for you guys, is it possible to mount a windows formated dynamic drive? ive been searching for a bit and havent seem to stumble on the answer
[07:42] <micahg> dynamic drive?
[07:42] <lstarnes> Psuedo: assuming that the wikipedia entry is correct, ext4 is backwards-compatible with ext3 and ext2
[07:42] <kevsthabest> windows joke of a raid
[07:42] <Tophu> wow looks like I have multiple vwrsioms installed
[07:42] <pawan1234> hello
[07:43] <semanticpc> is there a way to print just 2 columns from a text file which has a huge matrix ?
[07:43] <micahg> semanticpc: man cut
[07:43] <dayo> semanticpc: check out the man pages for cut
[07:43] <kevsthabest> fdisk shows SFS
[07:43] <dayo> micahg: lol
[07:43] <Tophu> after sudo make uninstall is there any way I can verify I'm clean and ready for freash install?
[07:43] <semanticpc> k thanks
[07:43] <Dunkin> Tophu sudo make clean
[07:44] <micahg> is ubuntu aware of free root access on boot in jaunty?
[07:44] <pawan1234> how to install phpbb forum on ubuntu
[07:44] <rww> micahg: with recovery mode? yes
[07:44] <Tophu> thanks
[07:44] <lstarnes> pawan1234: do you have apache, php, and mysql installed?
[07:44] <micahg> pawan1234: sudo apt-get install phpbb3
[07:45] <pawan1234> no
[07:45] <micahg> rww: are there plans to fix it
[07:45] <lstarnes> !lamp > pawan1234
[07:45] <micahg> or do I just need to set a root passwd
[07:45] <lovetechno> I just used the wubi installer and installed linux, and it says there are lots of updates available what are all the updates for? there are 300 of them
[07:45] <evilbug> i want to connect to a friend's computer through vnc and we're both behind a router. how would i have to insert the host address to connect to him?
[07:45] <rww> micahg: it's not a bug. you should set a GRUB password.
[07:45] <Mike|26-Away> Can somebody PM me about Ubuntu?   Just a quick question regarding compatibility.
[07:46] <lstarnes> micahg: it's supposed to be accessible through recovery mode in case you cannot use the system in normal mode
[07:46] <micahg> rww: I didn't know grub had a separate password
[07:46] <Hyren> just ask in the chat mike?
[07:46] <micahg>  lstarnes: with debian, you use the system root passwd
[07:46] <Sapta> ok so how much space should be optimum for / directory and /home directory separately?
[07:46] <lstarnes> micahg: normally, you would only be able to access recovery mode if you had physical access
[07:46] <micahg>  lstarnes: agreed, but I have a lappy
[07:46] <lstarnes> micahg: by default, ubuntu has the root account locked without a password
[07:47] <rww> micahg: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and see the comments to the "password" option
[07:47] <micahg>  lstarnes: also, you don't want anyone to be able to reboot you system and start  editing files
[07:47] <Sapta> dayo: If I put / and /home on separate logical drives, can't I retain /home after reinstall?
[07:47] <rww> micahg: also change "lockalternatives=false" to "lockalternatives=true"
[07:47] <hateball> BURN THE INFIDEL!
[07:47] <rww> micahg: and then run sudo update-grub
[07:47] <dayo> Sapta: yes
[07:47] <billywayne> dayo: yes
[07:48] <rww> s/alternatives/alternative/
[07:48] <dayo> billywayne: ?
[07:48] <Mike|26-Away> Just wondering if there is a list of compatible programs.  I have a ton of office software that I hope to be able to use with this OS.
[07:48] <billywayne> wups sorry
[07:48] <dayo> lol
[07:48] <pawan1234> hello
[07:48] <micahg> rww: what other effect will that have?
[07:49] <pawan1234> how to setup phpbb on ubuntu
[07:49] <pawan1234> using xampp
[07:49] <bazhang> pawan1234, read the links sent you and stop repeating
[07:49] <rww> micahg: it'll require you to enter the grub password before editing anything in the grub boot menu or starting recovery mode
[07:49] <bazhang> !xampp | pawan1234
[07:49] <bazhang> !lamp | pawan1234
[07:50] <micahg> rww: if I set a root passwd will the recovery screen use that?
[07:50] <bazhang> pawan1234, take the time to do some reading above ^^
[07:50] <rww> micahg: I don't know; setting a root password is not a particularly good idea.
[07:50] <rww> !noroot
[07:50] <rww> etc.
[07:51] <billywayne> i'm looking to get an ssh account with the server running ubuntu.  I see shellweb.net has ubuntu.  is this a reputable service?
[07:51] <Mike|26-Away> Is there a list of compatible programs?  I have a ton of office software that I hope to be able to use with this OS.
[07:51] <Maslow> Mike|26-Away: Made for what OS?
[07:51] <Mike|26-Away> Ubuntu
[07:51] <Hyren> ton of office software? like? word?
[07:52] <kindofabuzz> billywayne, why not just make your own server?
[07:52] <Hyren> or do you mean general software you use in the office?
[07:52] <Mike|26-Away> My office software.  Not MS Office.  I could use open office for that.
[07:53] <micahg> rww: how do I encrypt the boot passwd
[07:53] <Mike|26-Away> I have programs that do not offer Linux support so I didn't know if these would work with Ubuntu
[07:53] <lstarnes> Mike|26-Away: is that software written for windows?
[07:53] <Mike|26-Away> Yes
[07:53] <ianx6> hello! is there anyone who cold help i just bought linksys wusb 54g ver 4 but when i use lsusb ang dmesg its not showing up
[07:53] <lstarnes> Mike|26-Away: in that case, you may be able to run at least some of it using wine
[07:53] <tsimpson> micahg: if you set one, it will be encrypted
[07:53] <billywayne> kindofabuzz: no hardware at the moment.  just a couple of laptops.  and I'm not sure how/if I'm going to use the service.  I have a use case for it, but don't have the hardware and don't want to fool with complications.
[07:53] <Zhenya> Hello
[07:53] <ianx6> i tried it in windows and its working
[07:53] <Tophu> thank you all so much for all the help tonight. both with wine and the grub issue from earlier. you will probably see me here at least a fee more times over the next week ad I try to move as much as I can over to ubuntu. ^_^ have a wonderful night all
[07:54] <Mike|26-Away> lstarnes: wine is?
[07:54] <kindofabuzz> billywayne, turn the laptop into a server. =) i have my server on a 500Mhz P3, runs great
[07:54] <lstarnes> Mike|26-Away: wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux and other unix-like operating systems
[07:54] <micahg> rww: I was wondering if people should be warned about this passwordless autoroot
[07:54] <Tophu> /quit
[07:54] <joot> !wine
[07:55] <rww> micahg: type "grub" in a terminal to pull up the grub prompt. type "md5crypt" at that prompt. Enter a password when it asks for one. Copy and paste the stuff after "Encrypted:" into menu.lst
[07:55] <Mike|26-Away> Thanks lstarnes & joot
[07:55] <billywayne> passwordless autoroot?
[07:55] <rww> billywayne: micahg is unhappy about recovery mode
[07:55] <joot> Micahg. I think a lot do know..
[07:56] <micahg>  joot: I've been using ubuntu for 1.5 years and this is the first I've heard of it
[07:56] <billywayne> oh.  yeah.  that's a vector all right.
[07:56] <billywayne> single user mode?
[07:56] <semanticpc> how to left align a field ? i am using cat piped with cut
[07:56] <joot> Micahg. I still think a lot do know :)
[07:57] <micahg>  joot: ok
[07:57] <pawan1234> hello
[07:57] <compguy1011> hello room, is there a aim client for linux that looks like ichat?
[07:57] <dayo> compguy1011: pidgin
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> semanticpc: meaning you're just trying to strip whitespace from the beginning of the line?
[07:57] <Mike|26-Away> One more question.  This may be totally noobsauce though.  Will my drivers still work with Ubuntu?
[07:57] <compguy1011> thats what im using but dont like it
[07:58] <dayo> compguy1011: why?
[07:58] <ianx6> pidgin
[07:58] <billywayne> no use in worrying over single user mode.  can't someone boot a livecd and chroot with root privilidges anyway?
[07:58] <compguy1011> i want the text to look like it does on ichat
[07:58] <joot> Micahg. Even with an encrypted boot pass some one who has physical access to your machine can still "get in"
[07:58] <lavacano201014> compguy1011: There is a plugin called "iChat Timestamps" built in
[07:58] <lavacano201014> It's not on, though
[07:58] <semanticpc> tonyyarusso: there is a matrix in the file and the fields have different number of digits
[07:58] <lavacano201014> You can turn it on by checking a box
[07:59] <lavacano201014> compguy1011: After that, best I can think of.
[07:59] <micahg> joot: yes, but it's a lot easier if a passwd is required
[07:59] <Mike|26-Away> One more question.  This may be totally noobsauce though.  Will my drivers still work with Ubuntu?
[07:59] <micahg> *harder
[07:59] <lavacano201014> Mike|26-Away: Maybe.
[07:59] <micahg>  joot: as in someone can't wreak havoc in less than a minute
[07:59] <Mike|26-Away> Dayum...
[07:59] <micahg> without being too bvious
[07:59] <micahg> I udnerstand your point though
[07:59] <joot> Mike | 2- away, possiblibly not but the linux drivers may
[08:00] <micahg> I will concede
[08:00] <compguy1011> lavacano201014, hm, doesn't look any different
[08:00] <lstarnes> Mike|26-Away: windows drivers usually aren't compatible with the linux kernel, but there are wappers for certain types of drivers, such as ndiswrapper for ndis-based networking drivers
[08:00] <lavacano201014> compguy1011: It won't affect IMs and things that have already occured
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> semanticpc: Would you mind pastebining (http://paste.ubuntu.com/) a sample line or three of input and desired output?  I'm not sure I understand.
[08:00] <lavacano201014> compguy1011: But next time someone sends you an IM, it should be iChatified
[08:00] <micahg> thanks for all the help
[08:00] <lavacano201014> compguy1011: Try closing your IM windows first though, to be sure
[08:00] <Mike|26-Away> Awesome, thanks.  I'll keep reading.
[08:01] <Mike|26-Away> Take care guys/gals
[08:01] <joot> Micahg. I agree with you. It just is really hard to make it impossible for some one to enter your machine
[08:01] <compguy1011> lavacano201014, ya i did... i guess im looking for a theme more or less
[08:02] <Sapta> ok, final question: do swap need to be on primary partition? or can it work from a logical partition?
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> Sapta: it can be either
[08:03] <semanticpc> tonyyarusso: http://pastebin.com/m4f5a6f07 i want just the first 5 columns
[08:05] <Sapta> thanks everyone
[08:05] <dayo> semanticpc: cut -d " " -f1-5
[08:06] <bosco> ok anyone know how to remove all of your panels in gnome cant seem to get the last one removed???
[08:06] <semanticpc> yes but i want the fields to be left aligned dayo
[08:07] <Athenon_> HAPPY BIRFDAY SARA U IZ 18!!!!!!
[08:07] <andrewfree> Is there a VNC server that works out of the box?
[08:08] <dayo> semanticpc: well, they should be by default
[08:08] <suma1> i boot my system through ubunut live cd, it didnt go in GUI, the background process only come. what is the problem?
[08:08] <semanticpc> oppps sorry i want it right aligned ....its mainly because i wanna compare many files like this
[08:09] <compguy1011> what packages do i need to get some eye candy?
[08:09] <joot> sumal, my guess is that you do not have enough memory
[08:09] <compguy1011> and cool effects
[08:09] <helper> greeting all just want to ask why in cache squid when i reboot as if all cache gone need to re-cache again if anyone know. thanks :)
[08:10] <illumin8> suma1, have you tried the disk on another system to ensure its a good burn.
[08:10] <macman> .. how do i unmount a sshfs session / folder ?
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> semanticpc: If that info is in a file named sample, 'cut -d\  -f 1-5 sample'  (Note the double space)
[08:10] <lstarnes> macman: fusermount -u
[08:10] <suma1> illumin8: ya i tried it another one, from there it is installed
[08:10] <macman> lstarnes,  can i ge the whole command ?
[08:11] <lstarnes> macman: fusermount -u directory
[08:11] <illumin8> suma1, there are a few possiblities, one would be the system didnt load right. Another would be your hardware is not supported (grapic cards etc)
[08:11] <macman> thanks
[08:11] <joot> sumal, so haw much memory do you have
[08:11] <joot> how
[08:11] <semanticpc> tonyyarusso:  do you know the option for right align in such an output ?
[08:11] <illumin8> suma1, Try using the disk with your intergrated jack instead of your grapic card, if applicable.
[08:12] <suma1> joot: 250gb
[08:12] <illumin8> suma1, ram.
[08:12] <dayo> semanticpc: u could try this: assume your file is called thisFile:   cut -d " " -f1-5 | cat > outputThisFile
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> semanticpc: As in align it to the right of your terminal window?
[08:12] <suma1> 512 mb
[08:12] <dayo> semanticpc: u could try this: assume your file is called thisFile:   cut -d " " -f1-5 | cat > outputThisFile.odt
[08:12] <suma1> but i install another OS openfiler in it.
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> dayo: The second most definitely won't do what you think.
[08:13] <dayo> semanticpc: then open outputThisFile.odt with OpenOffice and right-align there
[08:13] <Heimark> haha. I think I just got a "virus". something messed up my firefox for sure.
[08:13] <semanticpc> tonyyarusso: yea right of terminal
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> dayo: also, completely unnecessary use of cat, and I'm not sure it would even work.
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> semanticpc: I'm not even sure if that's possible...
[08:13] <suma1> illumin8: then wat to do?
[08:13] <semanticpc> dayo: it wont righ align my text
[08:14] <illumin8> suma1, do you also have a grapic card on your system?
[08:14] <semanticpc> tonyyarusso:  it is possible for sure ..... i have seen someone do it ....... k ill search
[08:14] <dayo> semanticpc: u could try this: assume your file is called thisFile:   cut -d " " -f1-5 > outputThisFile.odt
[08:14] <bluenzo^nix> remoteCTRL, are you here?
[08:15] <suma1> don't know, how check it?
[08:15] <dayo> semanticpc: it will if u open the resulting odt in OpenOffice
[08:15] <illumin8> suma1, sometimes linux is fussy with certian cards, i would test your system without the card installed. if it still fails you may want to consider a os with more focus on low ram.
[08:15] <illumin8> suma1, on the back of your pc, is the monitor plugged into a pci slot or the upper part of your tower.
[08:15] <bosco> ok anyone know how to remove all of your panels in gnome cant seem to get the last one removed???
[08:15] <illumin8> suma1, gernerally speaking pci would indicate a grapic card installed.
[08:16] <semanticpc> dayo: i just want it printed out ..... i gotta do this for like 30 files
[08:16] <suma1> k i check it now
[08:16] <dayo> semanticpc: damn
[08:16] <dayo> semanticpc: that's all i got. sorry.
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> dayo: why are you giving it a .odt extension?  That's only going to confuse people, since it definitely will not be an ODT file.
[08:17] <jdimond> bosco: goto preferences>sections and then current sessions and remove gnome-panel
[08:17] <jdimond> bosco: alternatively you could set the last panel to auto-hide
[08:17] <lstarnes> dayo: just having a .odt extension does not mean that a file is in the opendocument text format
[08:18] <Besogon> How can I change a time to summer time from console. (with command "date")? I cant undestand man date or date --help. Give me command please if you can
[08:18] <bosco> jdimond, yes but there is no gnome-panel in sessions that is my problem?
[08:19] <joot> sumal, you need 350mb of ram for the live install
[08:19] <dayo> lstarnes: i tried it and it worked. i was able to open it in 00o
[08:19] <adrah> can someone help me with these upgrade errors?
[08:19] <Besogon> No one know. by
[08:19] <suma1> illumin8: the,n what i do?
[08:19] <lstarnes> dayo: it likely read the file and determined that it was plaintext
[08:19] <joot> sumal, sorry I missed you last input I am out..
[08:20] <jdimond> bosco: brb... ...reboot
[08:20] <illumin8> suma1, is there a grapic card?
[08:20] <suma1> no
[08:20] <suma1> but before it work
[08:20] <dayo> lstarnes: yeah
[08:21] <illumin8> suma1, ubuntu worked previously?
[08:21] <suma1> yes
[08:21] <slimjim> hey everyone I have a issue can not seem to figure it out. I have two ide harddrive in this box and itis entirly linux, right now just ubuntu and i do not want to test on it so i want to make it all ubuntu i formated the slave drive as ext3 how can i make it so ubuntu will mount it so i can save to it and make it a storage area.
[08:21] <suma1> after install the openfiler OS it makes problem
[08:21] <illumin8> suma1, im not fimilar with openfiler, i assume its a lilo boot?
[08:22] <clearscreen> slimjim: edit /etc/fstab
[08:22] <genii> openfiler is an embedded nas system
[08:22] <compguy1011> u know how on aim u can change ur sn from like compguy to COMPGUY, how do u do that on pidgin?
[08:23] <illumin8> openfiler is a shared vm?
[08:23] <adrah> is everyone having upgrade & apt-get errors or is it just me?
[08:23] <slimjim> clearscreen ok can you be specific or tell me were i can read a how to. i have been around linux some time but never really dove in head first. now i have no choice it is my only OS =)
[08:23] <clearscreen> !fstab | slimjim
[08:23] <suma1> ok
[08:23] <slimjim> clearscreen thanks
[08:24] <suma1> ya shared vm
[08:24] <dayo> semanticpc: have a look at this: http://student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sed1line.txt
[08:24] <Abigail_> good morning people :)
[08:25] <dayo> !hi | Abigail_
[08:25] <Muhammad_Negm1> helli! iam using 9.04 beta and it works just fine! and my ati 2100 for the first time works fine :)
[08:26] <compguy1011> u know how on aim u can change ur sn from like compguy to COMPGUY, how do u do that on pidgin?
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> Muhammad_Negm1: Glad to hear it!  Although, Jaunty talk happens in #ubuntu+1 so as to avoid confusion.
[08:26] <Muhammad_Negm1> thanks
[08:27] <illumin8> suma1, after reading up on Openfiler it seems it has config issues. It may be better to ask them on the forums.
[08:27] <semanticpc> dayo:  thnks something like this will help i guess
[08:27] <Sapta> oh forgot one thing. What would be the optimum size for swap, / and /home all on separate partitions?
[08:27] <dayo> semanticpc: yeah, i haven't used sed before, but i thought it might be the right tool
[08:28] <dayo> Sapta: i usually go 2xRAM size for swap. and for slash home, i subtract about 10-15GB for / and give the remainder to /home
[08:29] <Heimark> wow... I just had one of those famous pop ups in firefox "your system has been infected", it made firefox go full screen. is there anything I should be checking?
[08:29] <joetheodd> Is there any way to set overall gain for sound? My system is too quiet
[08:29] <joetheodd> Heimark, I recommend NoScript, firefox addon.
[08:29] <Sapta> dayo: don't say remainder, plz ;)  what's the size for /home?
[08:30] <illumin8> Sapta, that depends on the size of your drive
[08:30] <dayo> Sapta: it depends on the amount of freespace u got. /home can be 5GB or 5TB
[08:30] <bonez46> what would be the best command to move a folder from /media/_var to /var/lib ?
[08:31] <Heimark> joetheodd: thanks
[08:31] <illumin8> Sapta, basiclly if you have a 100gb hard drive it would be 2xyourram = swap, /=10-15gb, and /home=rest of drive.
[08:32] <Sapta> Actually I have Vista on my HD, and  my extended partition of 80gb which I will be partitioning for / and /home has media files.
[08:32] <Sapta> so i don't want to give more than what I need to give to /home
[08:33] <illumin8> Sapta, how much total space are you using for linux
[08:33] <dayo> Sapta: how big is your RAM? give swap twice that. give / 15GB. then give whatever u like to /home
[08:34] <DrMrHorse> is there a way to scan for wireless networks using the gui in gnome?
[08:34] <Sapta> illumin8: Tha's what I'm trying to figure out. i want an optimum space so i don't run low on space, yet keep most partition to windows for entertainment
[08:34] <Sapta> dayo: ram is 2 gb
[08:34] <dayo> Sapta: then your swap is 4gb
[08:34] <illumin8> Sapta, Right then, basicly home is like your C drive in windows
[08:34] <slimjim> clearscreen that howto really didnt tell me how to word it, here is a pastebin of (fdisk -l) the drve i am looking at is sdb1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/140001/
[08:35] <sanket40> hi
[08:35] <lstarnes> illumin8: / is more like the c: drive
[08:35] <duvld> I need to make a MS Office compatible .doc, using OpenOffice Writer.  I don't have Times New Roman or Arial and can't didn't find any packages for them on synaptic, no "MS ttf" or anything of that sort.  Is "Nimbus Roman No9 L" Times New Roman?  Or how do I get the right fonts
[08:35] <sanket40> i have a problem ..
[08:35] <Dykam> DrMrHorse, if you click the network icon in one of the panels, it expands and displays all network in range.
[08:35] <DrMrHorse> hahahaha
[08:35] <DrMrHorse> tyvm
[08:35] <Dykam> np
[08:35] <Sapta> so i guess I'll give /home around 10 gb
[08:35] <sanket40> /sykora
[08:35] <joetheodd> /home is basically your user folder on Windows. It's My Documents, My Music, etc, along with your desktop.
[08:35] <dayo> Sapta: ok
[08:36] <illumin8> Sapta, if you have 2gb of ram you will want 4gb swap, 15gb for / (which holds most of your data and system related files) and /home set to how every much storage space you want for personal use.
[08:36] <bonez46> I have several folders on a drive I can mount and access. and I want to move them to another healthier driver.. what's the best way. to move folders? two drives in one machine?
[08:36] <clearscreen> slimjim: add /etc/sdb1 to fstab
[08:36] <joetheodd> /home is where user's stuff goes. Programs go in /.
[08:36] <slimjim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/140002/
[08:36] <dayo> !rsync | bonez46
[08:36] <Sapta> where are new programs installed? by default
[08:36] <slimjim> but i am not sure were to put in in sequine in fstab
[08:36] <illumin8> yes ill clarify, / is like your Windows folder inside C: :P
[08:36] <dayo> damn
[08:36] <joetheodd> Sapta, most go in /usr/bin
[08:36] <lstarnes> Sapta: under various directories under /usr
[08:37] <Sapta> great, thanks
[08:37] <lstarnes> Sapta: the filesystem layout is somewhat strange, but "man hier" explains it
[08:37] <clearscreen> slimjim: doesnt matter where
[08:37] <dayo> bonez46: man rsync
[08:37] <slimjim> just (/etc/sdb1) nothing else like the rest of it
[08:37] <clearscreen> slimjim: you should do something like 'sudo mkdir /media/disk'
[08:37] <slimjim> ok
[08:38] <Sapta> lstarnes: those man pages are confusing themselves :D
[08:38] <clearscreen> slimjim: you'd know how to edit /etc/fstab if you read the links ;)
[08:38] <illumin8> lstarnes, thanks for clarifying that, sometimes generalizing file system layouts confuses people more :)
[08:38] <slimjim> clearscreen the link was not clear on it. i read but it just showed what his looked like and i did not want to mess up my fstab file =)
[08:39] <duvld> slimjim: or 'sudo mkdir ~/disk'  then 'mount /dev/whatever1 ~/disk'
[08:39] <clearscreen> that won't be persistent across reboots
[08:39] <duvld> I need to make a MS Office compatible .doc, using OpenOffice Writer.  I don't have Times New Roman or Arial and can't didn't find any packages for them on synaptic, no "MS ttf" or anything of that sort.  Is "Nimbus Roman No9 L" Times New Roman?  Or how do I get the right fonts??
[08:40] <slimjim> duvld thanks
[08:40] <drmrhorse_> how big a partition should one use to house just the OS for ibex?
[08:40] <clearscreen> you're gonna want to add something like this to fstab: '/dev/somedisk /media/somefolder ext3 defaults 0 0'
[08:40] <rww> duvld: Install the msttcorefonts package from the multiverse repository
[08:41] <duvld> rww: thx
[08:42] <slimjim> clearscreen what do i put for default mount point for the second hard drive
[08:43] <dayo> bonez46: adapt this for your purposes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/140006/
[08:43] <slimjim> duvld i got error saying directoy does not exist
[08:43] <gabbah> hi! I'm on ubuntu 8.10. Sometimes the sound has stopped working (computer has been on all night) when i start using my computer in the morning. How can I active it again? When this happens, rythmbox freezes when i try to play music.
[08:43] <gabbah> totem movie player cannot play movies as well
[08:43] <semanticpc> dayo:  is there a way to print just 5 characters in each field ???
[08:43] <dayo> gabbah: it's a pulseaudio issue. i usually reboot the machine. some people do:   sudo alsa reload
[08:44] <bonez46> thanks.. dayo
[08:44] <clearscreen> slimjim: an empty directory anywhere... generally you just make a folder in /mnt or /media: 'sudo mkdir /media/mydisk'
[08:44] <Ropechoborra> I have configured my wireless network conection but I'm experiencing a low internet speed. Could it be a problem with the network configuration?
[08:45] <clearscreen> Ropechoborra: you could try manually increasing your bitrate
[08:45] <slimjim> ok i gotcha
[08:45] <slimjim> that is were i was getting lost clearscreen
[08:45] <Ropechoborra> clearscreen, how is that?
[08:45] <gabbah> dayo: it seems now rythmbox and totem can actually start playing their files, but there is still no sound.
[08:45] <gabbah> dayo: i did alsa reload
[08:45] <Ropechoborra> clearscreen, in iwconfig it says bitrate: 54 Mb/s
[08:46] <clearscreen> Ropechoborra: then you either have a driver problem or you're too far away from your AP
[08:47] <clearscreen> gabbah: make sure sound isn't muted (common problem), run alsamixer
[08:47] <Ropechoborra> clearscreen, The link quality is 87/100 and the driver is the oficial Realtek release for linux. I followed the ReadMe from the driver to install it.
[08:47] <bonez46> how can I get a flash player installed on my 64 bit amd system?
[08:47] <bonez46> is that out yet?
[08:48] <dayo> gabbah: sorry, it's alsa force-reload: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/348115
[08:51] <gabbah> dayo: that seemed to do the trick :)
[08:51] <dayo> gabbah: cool :-)
[08:51] <gabbah> thank you :)
[08:51] <Rufuse> hello
[08:51] <dayo> gabbah: u're welcome :-)
[08:52] <clearscreen> bonez46: i'd recommend you to just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:52] <dayo> bonez46: on 32 it would be: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras. not sure if it's the same for 64
[08:53] <slimjim> clearscreen my fstab looks dif what are these UUID for, i put in (/dev/sdb1     /media/backup    ext3   defaults   0    2) and i still get a error message when i try to mount it
[08:54] <laxmi_> hello what is the address for mosesdecoder chat
[08:54] <ianx6> hello anyone who could help me fixing my linksys wusb54g v4 its not detected in lsusb and dmesg
[08:54] <clearscreen> slimjim: i can't read minds over IRC, what does the error message say
[08:55] <slimjim> clearscreen sorry let me pastebin it for you =)
[08:55] <Rufuse> i recently updated to jaunty and have a problem with nvidia drivers. i can't compile drivers because i don't have headers for kernel. btw uname -r gives me 2.6.27-9-generic
[08:55] <puff> Hm, okay, so why would the liveCD come up just fine, I select "try without installing" and it starts to load - then the LCD goes all "no signal, going into power saver mode."
[08:55] <bonez46> thanks..
[08:55] <puff> ?
[08:55] <laxmi_> can someone help me?
[08:55] <jklock> clearscreen: I hear there is a plugin in development for that :)
[08:55] <puff> It's actually liveCD on a USB flash drive.
[08:56] <slimjim> clearscreen http://paste.ubuntu.com/140015/
[08:56] <compguy1011> youtube videos and all flash videos all lag and dont look good reg size or maxed out, i have nvidia drivers installed, is there a fix?
[08:56] <clearscreen> slimjim: are you sure you formatted /etc/sdb1 as ext3?
[08:56] <elcreaturenex> hello
[08:57] <slimjim> clearnscreen yes when i fdisk -l is shows me that it is linux option 83
[08:57] <slimjim> clearscreen do you want me to pastebin my fstap output
[08:57] <puff> Anyone?
[08:57] <puff> sigh.
[08:58] <laxmi_> hello help me
[08:58] <armornick> what's your problem, laxmi_ ?
[08:58] <slimjim> clearscreen http://paste.ubuntu.com/140016/
[08:58] <Rufuse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/140017/ please help me ppl :(
[08:58] <rww> laxmi_: There isnt one. Try the mailing list at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support , maybe?
[08:58] <laxmi_> moses irc chat address
[08:58] <jklock> puff: what kind of video card do you have?
[08:59] <clearscreen> slimjim: well, ubuntu doesnt recognize it as an ext3 disk
[08:59] <clearscreen> slimjim: try to sudo fsck /etc/sdb1
[08:59] <puff> Dunno, it's a dell optiplex 755 with a funky video jack.
[08:59] <elcreaturenex> hello im new to linux/ubuntu and i have a question if someone can help
[08:59] <clearscreen> !ask | elcreaturenex
[09:00] <jklock> puff: Intel® GMA3100 is what dell's website says
[09:00] <elcreaturenex> sorry new to the IRC scene lol
[09:00] <elcreaturenex> ok
[09:00] <puff> jklock: Yeah, intel.
[09:00] <slimjim> clearscreen http://paste.ubuntu.com/140018/
[09:01] <marqueed> elcreaturenex: ask away
[09:01] <clearscreen> slimjim: is there any data on the disk? i'd recommend you to just reformat it properly
[09:02] <elcreaturenex> I just installed ubuntu to my cd via cd and the install screen came, created a name and everything, well it asked to restart the computer and the screen shows up black but all i can see is a white arrow
[09:02] <jklock> puff: what type of monitor do you have?
[09:02] <gabbah> dayo: i was thinking... why does the sound go away overnight in the first place though? what has happened?
[09:02] <puff> Dell ultrasharp LCd.
[09:02] <slimjim> clearscreen no data do you recomend gui or terminal to format it
[09:03] <puff> jklock: Ah, tried it in safe mode and that workes.
[09:03] <n2diy> puff, my sound dissappears in the middle of a podcast.
[09:03] <dayo> gabbah: it's some kind of pulseaudio bug. i posted my version of the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/348115/comments/2
[09:03] <clearscreen> slimjim: sudo apt-get install gparted
[09:03] <slimjim> i can do gparted for gui or i can try to remember how to do the terminal witch should be (mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1 correct)
[09:03] <jklock> puff: it is trying to push a resolution the monitor does support :)
[09:03] <elcreaturenex> gateway
[09:03] <clearscreen> slimjim: gparted should be just fine
[09:04] <slimjim> ok thanks
[09:04] <dayo> gabbah: basically, ubuntu did a lousy job of integrating pulseaudio into the distro. quite sad, really. it's the one thing that pisses me off about ubuntu
[09:04] <elcreaturenex> how can i fix the resolution?
[09:05] <dayo> gabbah: give this a look, too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[09:05] <paradroid> Hi... thanks to daylight savings I need to *relatively* change the timestamps of all files on a vfat-partition - is there a way to do that? touch doesn't seem to be the right tool for that.
[09:05] <jklock> dayo: I dealt with someone today who is having a similar problem, but with teamspeak and a bunch of other apps
[09:05] <gabbah> dayo:  thanks
[09:05] <slimjim> clearscreen did you look at what my fstab looked like did it look correct to do
[09:05] <jklock> dayo: pulseaudio is all sorts of weird
[09:06] <dayo> jklock: it's a real pain in the ass.
[09:06] <sharon22f> Hello ,  does Ubuntu have some tool for resizing video files ? (file size, wmv) ?
[09:06] <mxcool> hi
[09:06] <jklock> dayo: yeah no joke
[09:06] <puff> jklock: thanks for the hand-holding :-)
[09:06] <jklock> puff: np :)
[09:06] <elcreaturenex> do i need another monitor? or can i change the settings?
[09:06] <Rufuse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/140017/ please help me with driver and headers
[09:07] <mxcool> someone can help me , I want to have an animated wallpaper like  a map which will show me the world
[09:08] <puff> Does aptitude download packagename also fetch dependencies?
[09:08] <dayo> puff: no i don't think so
[09:08] <jklock> mxcool: give this a whirl http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/12/15/animated-wallpaper-on-your-ubuntu-810-desktop/
[09:08] <balrog__> is opera.com down or is it just my net?
[09:08] <paradroid> sharon22f:  I'm not sure what you are planning to do but e. g. Avidemux can do all sorts of video-conversion with a nice GUI.
[09:10] <paradroid> Anyone have an idea of how to modify file-timestamps *relatively*, e. g. -1 hour?
[09:11] <elcreaturenex> im sorry but can someone help me with the resolution issue or point me in the right direction
[09:11] <puff> dayo: Is there a way to get aptitude to list dependencies?
[09:11] <joot> balrog_, I think it is down the page opens but no download
[09:12] <slimjim> clearscreen that worked thanks alot man. take it easy
[09:14] <puff> I'm trying to configure my router (dd-wrt) to always assign the same IP address to this machine's MAC address.  I've configured the router, but when I do "sudo dhclient eth0" it seems like the box is specifically requesting the random IP address it was assigned last time.
[09:14] <dayo> puff: apt-cache showpkg <packageName>
[09:14] <puff> Is this the case?
[09:14] <puff> dayo: Ah, thanks.
[09:14] <joot> Puff, Synaptic will list your dependencies for you
[09:14] <puff> And if so, is there a way to clear that so dhclient just requests any IP adress?
[09:15] <dayo> puff: u would need dhcp for IP assignment, i think
[09:16] <clearscreen> puff: if you want the same ip address for the same machine, why use dhcp at all.. might as well configure a static address
[09:16] <dayo> clearscreen: puff: true.   i would edit /etc/network/interfaces  for that
[09:17] <puff> the router provides dhcp and has an option to specify MAC-to-IP-address settings.
[09:18] <clearscreen> Yeah but my question: why would you want to use that option if you can assign a static address :P
[09:18] <dayo> puff: u could either edit the lease duration of the dhcp in your router, or edit your systems interface file. i'd do the latter. change it to static
[09:19] <n2diy> ! jetcast
[09:19] <puff> Hm, is it generally possible  to have several machines on the same router have widlly different Ips?
[09:20] <n2diy> anybody heard of jetcast? Set it up in Ubuntu?
[09:20] <clearscreen> puff: generally? no.. routers will generally hand out ip-addresses incrementally
[09:20] <unimatrix9> hello there you all
[09:20] <dayo> puff: wildly different as in not in the same subnet?
[09:20] <puff> I.e. 128.2.177.192 and 128.2.181.155 and 128.2.182.89
[09:21] <unimatrix9> is there some one who uses turnkey linux?
[09:21] <clearscreen> turnkey linux?
[09:21] <puff> clearscreen: This is assuming I'm setting them statically, I guess.
[09:21] <dayo> puff: that's not wildly. it depends on your ip range.
[09:21] <puff> dayo:  Hokay, so I guess I have to make sure the subnet mask is like 255.255.*.*
[09:21] <dayo> puff: afaik if they're all 128.2.*  u're good
[09:21] <unimatrix9> i was wondering if i could use it as livecd and setup an webserver ad-hoc, can for example ubuntu livecd create an ad-hoc live server?
[09:22] <unimatrix9> turnkey linux
[09:22] <unimatrix9> http://www.turnkeylinux.org/
[09:22] <rww> unimatrix9: This channel doesn't support unofficial derivatives of Ubuntu. Information on community support for Turnkey is at http://www.turnkeylinux.org/community
[09:22] <puff> dayo: Does that subnet sound right?
[09:22] <elcreaturenex> just installed for first time ubuntu and everything went well, after the restart my computer screen is black
[09:23] <dayo> puff: 255.255.0.0
[09:23] <dayo> puff: or 128.2.0.0/16
[09:23] <sky_1> hi i have big problem guys
[09:23] <unimatrix9> rww, okey, fair enough, but can ubuntu livecd be used as an ad-hoc , instant apache server? when i live install apache ..
[09:23] <puff> Hokay... probably would be a good idea to set the router to be a 128.2.0.1 or something.
[09:23] <puff> This is going to be in a stand-alone network, so there should be no issues with upstream.
[09:24] <sky_1> my wow installation can be infected by virus....of course can be infected too if is installed on ext3
[09:24] <rww> unimatrix9: It should support the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Installing%20Apache%202
[09:24] <clearscreen> unimatrix9: should be possible, though I believe temporary space comes from ramdisk, so you'll be limited to some space I believe
[09:25] <sky_1> anyone know how i can fix this problem ?
[09:27] <n2diy> anybody heard of jetcast? Set it up in Ubuntu?
[09:27] <rishinature> hello
[09:28] <rishinature> ubuntu newbie
[09:28] <rishinature> need some help
[09:28] <quibbler> !ask | rishinature
[09:28] <rishinature> OK
[09:29] <dayo> time for breakfast. bye guys
[09:29] <ml__> How do I update VLC player to the latest version using terminal?
[09:30] <sky_1> now viruses on ubuntu are problem !
[09:30] <clearscreen> ml__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:30] <ml__> clearscreen, wouldn't that update everything as well?
[09:30] <unimatrix9> sky_1 and you have got one?
[09:30] <sky_1> yes
[09:30] <clearscreen> ml__: yes, why wouldnt you want to update everything though?
[09:30] <unimatrix9> how can you tell?
[09:31] <sky_1> i know viruses which can destroy the system not exist
[09:31] <sky_1> but problem is that my games are infected !
[09:31] <ml__> clearscreen, just out of curiosity. Im not sure if my ubuntu will also update to 8.10. I'm on 8.04 LTS
[09:31] <joot> sky_1, In what way are they a problem??
[09:31] <unimatrix9> sky_1 what game?
[09:31] <Andrea_21> hello room can anyone help me my usb wifi is not showing up in lsusb and dmesg
[09:31] <unimatrix9> wine?
[09:31] <sky_1> all games
[09:31] <unimatrix9> :P
[09:32] <sky_1> alll executable format
[09:32] <Andrea_21> :(
[09:32] <unimatrix9> sky_1 you mean bin files?
[09:32] <unimatrix9> or exe?
[09:32] <rishinature> I am running a particularly memory and CPU intensive program called DENSITY in UBUNTU hardy heron through WINE. I have a 1.73 Ghz Pentium M processor with 2 GB RAM. While on windows, the swap use goes upto 1.2 GB, in Ubuntu, just about 500 MB is used, while the swap is not even touched. Does this mean that program will run slow in ubuntu or is it that running programs through wine have some limitations. Sorry for the extremely long question!!
[09:32] <unimatrix9> or sh?
[09:32] <sky_1> exe
[09:32] <clearscreen> ml__: im not sure if you can supply a package at the end of your "upgrade" command, it is worth a try.. you can always select N(o) to the upgrade if you see it trying to pull in a huge amount of packages
[09:32] <unimatrix9> ah
[09:32] <unimatrix9> i see
[09:32] <puff> Okay, there's really gotta be a better way of tracking down the dependencies for these packages...
[09:32] <Hobz> rishinature, can you measure?
[09:33] <ml__> clearscreen, alright I'll try. thanks
[09:33] <joot> sky_1, There are not many .exe files in ubuntu that are vunerable afaik
[09:33] <unimatrix9> sky_1 scan and remove them
[09:33] <sky_1> i hate person who created W32.Parite
[09:33] <unimatrix9> sky_1 http://research.pandasecurity.com/archive/New-Panda-Antivirus-Command-Line-9.5.1.aspx
[09:34] <paradroid> Anyone have an idea of how to modify file-timestamps *relatively*, e. g. -1 hour?
[09:34] <bosco> anyone know of a good website to improve the boot time of ubuntu???
[09:34] <rishinature> measure what?
[09:34] <puff> dayo: Okay, so I'm using sudo aptitude show packagename to see the dependencies, but that doesn't show me the dependencies of of the dependencie?
[09:34] <ziroday> HI, I am unable to play any audio files getting the error message (in totem) pa_stream_proplist_update() failed: Not supported. Any ideas why?
[09:34] <sky_1> i cant remove it
[09:34] <sky_1> i want fix it ?
[09:34] <Hobz> rishinature, run the same program on each setup and see which one is faster.  I'm afraid I can't provide you with anything more detailed than to say that linux has a different relationship with it's swap
[09:35] <rww> ml__: sudo apt-get install vlc should work too, I think
[09:35] <unimatrix9> sky_1 : there are other anti-virus scanners for linux, just try a few, the url i sended gives you the panda anti virus for linux
[09:35] <user___> paradroid: touch -t
[09:35] <sky_1> yea and Panda can fix Parite ?
[09:35] <puff> bosco: I talked to some fairly knowledgable people about that a ways back.  Most of the delay has to do with it figuring out your exact devices at time of boot and loading the modules.
[09:35] <sky_1> i dont want remove the files...i want fix it....
[09:35] <ml__> rww, wouldn't that just overwrite my current installation of vlc?
[09:35] <rishinature> ok...thanks a lot
[09:35] <unimatrix9> sky_1 scan i mean, with the anti virus scanner and it will attemt to fix it
[09:35] <rishinature> will try that
[09:35] <puff> bosco: Try googling on "fast boot"
[09:35] <bosco> puff, so there is no way to improve it
[09:35] <sky_1> oh yea i have ClamAV but he only scan and remove
[09:35] <unimatrix9> thats the best you can try
[09:36] <isismelting> if i moved /etc/apt/sources.list.d & now i can't boot up is there anything i can do to get things back?
[09:36] <rww> ml__: that's... what upgrading is?
[09:36] <paradroid> user___:  The -t parameter will let me define a certain fixed timestamp. I need to relatively change the timestamps of several files in relation to their current value -1 hour.
[09:36] <ziroday> bosco: have you tried reprofiling your boot? That usually gives the biggest speed increases
[09:36] <clearscreen> puff: what are you trying to do? :)
[09:36] <sky_1> unimatrix9: i go to try it thanks
[09:36] <puff> bosco: Idaknow... for me, ultimately I just use suspend all the time so my fast boot desires kinda went away.  I still think it'd be super cool to have instant-on.
[09:36] <ziroday> Hi, how would you set the time from the command line?
[09:37] <unimatrix9> sky_1 maybe you could even try an exe with wine http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/Win32-Parite-Remover.shtml
[09:37] <ikonia> ziroday: date
[09:37] <clearscreen> I dont even suspend, I leave the pc on 24/7.. no startup speed issues, ever :P
[09:37] <unimatrix9> the parite remover and run it with wine
[09:37] <ziroday> ikonia: logical, thanks
[09:37] <user___> paradroid: its not mentioned in the man page, so you would do yourself a little script
[09:37] <ikonia> ziroday: easy to miss the obvious sometimes
[09:37] <puff> clearscreen: pre-cache a bunch of packages on my laptop, then plug it into this standalone network so I can scp it to the other machines on the network.
[09:37] <bosco> ziroday, reprofiling never done that ???
[09:37] <clearscreen> puff: aha
[09:37] <unimatrix9> good luck, windows virus on linux , ah really strange
[09:37] <bosco> my boot
[09:37] <paradroid> user___:  Was afraid you'd say that...
[09:37] <ziroday> ikonia: I was messing around with the time command but wasn't getting anywhere
[09:37] <ziroday> bosco: one sec
[09:38] <puff> clearscreen: Any advice?
[09:38] <isismelting> ubuntu is booting into this really simplistic shell - it told me to boot into windows & do a chkdsk & that didn't work -- does anyone have any documentation on this shell or could someone link me to some sort of relevant information?
[09:38] <clearscreen> puff: not really to be totally honest :D
[09:38] <puff> sigh.
[09:38] <Regel> hey, my laptop's headphone jack is amplifying every noise inside it. For Example, when I plug in the power cord, I hear a loud and low sound. This appears to happen only when alsasound is on. Such thing does not happen on Windows. Could anyone help me, please?
[09:38] <user___> paradroid: you need to combine: ls bc(or bash calc function) touch, thats it
[09:38] <ikonia> isismelting: sounds like the busy box shell
[09:38] <puff> I need to beat the people who made this necessary about the head and ears.
[09:38] <unimatrix9> startx ?
[09:38] <ml__> rww, true. I meant wouldnt that just reinstall the current verison I have? I just put ubuntu 8.04 on my thinkpad 2 days ago. I have 8.10 on another laptop and it has newer updated software than my 8.04. Just wondering why.
[09:38] <puff> Unfortunately, they're the ones funding us :-).
[09:38] <ziroday> bosco: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254263
[09:39] <rww> ml__: because 8.10 has newer software than 8.04
[09:39] <clearscreen> puff: you're lucky you have a job :P
[09:39] <unimatrix9> ok, bye all
[09:39] <isismelting> ikonia: that sounds right -- i was having trouble updating, then i moved the /etc/apt/sources.list.d folder to see if that'd work, now i get this crappy shell
[09:39] <isismelting> ikonia: any idea what went wrong?
[09:39] <bosco> ziroday, thanks i will take a look at that
[09:39] <rww> ml__: Ubuntu doesn't add new major versions of software to distros after release.
[09:39] <ikonia> isismelting: errr why would you move that directory ?
[09:39] <puff> clearscreen: Actually, I don't, this is just a pinch-hitting consulting gig for some good friends.
[09:39] <puff> clearscreen: But it's a long story.
[09:39] <ikonia> isismelting: that may not be the busybox shell
[09:40] <isismelting> ikonia: i was trying to update & it told me there was a problem with that directory, so i thought i'd move it to $ITSELF-old for a minute to see if that'd solve the problem
[09:40] <ml__> rww, okay that explains a lot. So i pretty much have to go through and update them all myself from source?
[09:40] <puff> I'm reminded of why I don't like system administration.
[09:40] <isismelting> ikonia: i think i made a hasty & stupid move
[09:40] <ikonia> isismelting: it told you there was a problem with that directory ???
[09:40] <ikonia> isismelting: does it still boot the kernel, or not
[09:40] <puff> When it goes wrong, system administration is frustrating, tedious, and draining.
[09:40] <rww> ml__: or upgrade to intrepid if you want the latest version of stuff
[09:40] <clearscreen> puff: well, you're lucky you have a job involving configuring linux machines... i'm stuck working for a PHP company that really sucks.. oh well, i'm offtopic :P
[09:40] <ikonia> puff: whats' the problem ?
[09:40] <isismelting> ikonia: yes - and when i moved it then ran update-manager, it updated a lot (whereas before it was not updating at all)
[09:40] <puff> And when it goes right, system administration is pleasant, tedious and draining.
[09:40] <puff> :-)
[09:41] <isismelting> ikonia: then it asked to reboot, so i did -- now i get this crappy shell
[09:41] <semmy> #ubuntu-it
[09:41] <ikonia> isismelting: does the kernel boot, or is the shell before or after where the kernel boots
[09:41] <ml__> rww, alright thanks. I already have intrepid. Just trying things out.
[09:41] <puff> ikonia: I have 10 machines running a mutant version of an ancient fedoracore5, that will have a nervous breakdown if they're booted up outside their organization netwrk with all the friendly autentication servers and file servers and etc.
[09:41] <clearscreen> ml__: any reason you wouldn't want to upgrade to 8.10? (haven't been reading the whole convo)
[09:41] <isismelting> ikonia: i think it's before, because i can't get access to the directory i moved (i thought moving it back might fix it)
[09:41] <ikonia> puff: ok - so why are you talking about it in here ?
[09:42] <ikonia> isismelting: what does the prompt say, busybox or root
[09:42] <puff> ikonia: And I have to put them in a druck, drive 200 miles, put them all together in a stand-alone, off-the-internet network and make them all run this hefty number-crunching simulation.
[09:42] <Regel> hey, my laptop's headphone jack is amplifying every noise inside it. For Example, when I plug in the power cord, I hear a loud and low sound. This appears to happen only when alsasound is on. Such thing does not happen on Windows. Could anyone help me, please?
[09:42] <isismelting> ikonia: it says root
[09:42] <ikonia> puff: why are you talking about it in here
[09:42] <puff> ikonia: Oh, and they're all installed on LVM partitions & etc.
[09:42] <ikonia> isismelting: can you do "uname -a" to show me
[09:42] <puff> ikonia: You're a tad impatient, aren't you?
[09:42] <puff> ikonia: So my solution is to boot them all with ubuntu liveCd.
[09:42] <isismelting> ikonia: one minute, finishing another chkdsk.  thank you for helping...one moment
[09:42] <puff> ikonia: Installed on USB keys.
[09:42] <ikonia> puff: just cut to the chase
[09:43] <puff> You asked.
[09:43] <clearscreen> be nice :(
[09:43] <ml__> clearscreen, I already have it 8.10. But I'm just curious and wanted to check out 8.04, plus it is LTS.
[09:43] <sky_1> ikonia: can the ubuntu developers make some tools for protecting Ubuntu from viruses ?
[09:43] <ziroday> !viruses | sky_1
[09:43] <ikonia> sky_1: there are antivirus tools, but they are not really needed
[09:43] <clearscreen> ml__: I suppose
[09:43] <ziroday> !virus | sky_1
[09:43] <ml__> sky_1, there is clam?
[09:44] <ziroday> ml__: clamav scans for windows viruses
[09:44] <puff> ikonia: And right now I'm testing the stand-alone network config and trying to figure out how to pre-download all the packages they'll need and sneakernet them onto the stand-alone network.
[09:44] <clearscreen> ml__: if you're /etc/apt/sources.list is set up for 8.04 you don't have to worry about an apt-get upgrade taking you to intrepid (8.10) though
[09:44] <sky_1> ikonia: if you dont readed i said that i have problem with viruses ..they can infect my .exe files on ubuntu / ext3
[09:44] <ziroday> sky_1: there is chkrootkit, however its notoriously unreliable in giving out false positives
[09:44] <puff> sky_1: They already did, it's called linux.
[09:44] <clearscreen> ml__: your**
[09:44] <ikonia> sky_1: ubuntu doesn't use .exe files
[09:44] <ikonia> sky_1: and how do you know they are infected
[09:44] <ml__> clearscreen, okay thanks.
[09:44] <sky_1> ikonia: yes not but my games yes
[09:44] <eaxxae> ubottu: you dont' need an article, the IQ of average linux users is 2x any other os..
[09:45] <isismelting> ikonia: it is busybox v1.10.2 - uname -a gives me Linux (none) 2.6.27-14-generic #1 SMP
[09:45] <ikonia> sky_1: they are windows applications and not relevant to ubuntu
[09:45] <ikonia> isismelting: ok - that's a drag
[09:45] <sky_1> ikonia: thats bad answer !
[09:45] <ikonia> sky_1: no it's not
[09:45] <ikonia> sky_1: you don't need a virus scanner
[09:45] <eaxxae> ubottu: shenanigans .. AI is not that good yet
[09:46] <eaxxae> oh
[09:46] <eaxxae> default
[09:46] <ml__> ziroday, I haven't heard of any widespread viruses for ubuntu. plus how ubuntu is set up with the whole not being root thing makes it harder for viruses to activate?
[09:46] <ikonia> isismelting: something else must have happened as moving that molder won't stop it booting
[09:46] <ziroday> ml__: correct
[09:46] <ikonia> isismelting: anything else you can think of that happened/changed ?
[09:46] <isismelting> ikonia: i can't think of anything, but there were so many updates that i don't know what happened.  apparently it is not mounting the drive, is that right?
[09:47] <sky_1> ikonia: can be a fix for my problem set games to a ext3 partition and reading set to user and writing only to root ?
[09:47] <ikonia> isismelting: the busy box shell can appear for a number of reasons, and yes, not mounting the drive is a main one
[09:47] <ikonia> sky_1: what part of "there is no problem" are you not understanding
[09:47] <ml__> ziroday, maybe when ubuntu becomes more popular and more computers have it, more people will start writing viruses it for it.
[09:47] <puff> ikonia: so, back to my original question:  how do I give apt a short list of packages and get back all of the package files necessary to install those packages (i.e. including their dependencies)?
[09:47] <isismelting> ikonia: it tells me a command to type for to mount the shell & where to add it, if i gave you that could you help me add it to the right place?
[09:47] <ikonia> puff: ahh ok, thats the real question
[09:48] <ziroday> ml__: possibly, but they are unlikely to be effective
[09:48] <ikonia> puff: one moment
[09:48] <ikonia> isismelting: sure
[09:48] <puff> ikonia: Yes, that's the question I started with, then you asked me what I was trying to do...
[09:48] <isismelting> ikonia: thank you, give me one moment
[09:48] <ikonia> puff: I didn't see that initial question
[09:48] <sky_1> ikonia: thats stupid...you say me dont play games ? thats really stupid
[09:48] <ikonia> sky_1: I didn't say don't play games
[09:49] <puff> Ah, you were active in the channel so I assumed you had.
[09:49] <ikonia> sky_1: I said there is no problem, and virus's are not a problem on ubuntu/Linux
[09:49] <isismelting> ikonia: i force mounted the drive and rebooted & now everything looks fine.
[09:49] <ikonia> isismelting: was it marked as dirty ?
[09:49] <puff> sky_1:  Let me see if I can recap your problem:
[09:49] <sky_1> ikonia: so who can fix this problem ?
[09:49] <ikonia> sky_1: what problem ????
[09:49] <puff> sky_1: You can, just don't windows and oyu don't need to worry about viruses :-).
[09:49] <joot> ikonia, A number of people have told him that..
[09:49] <isismelting> ikonia: i don't think so - any idea what might have happened?
[09:49] <sky_1> that virus can infect exe on ubuntu !!!!
[09:50] <puff> sky_1: So recap:  you have a machine that multiboots both windows and linux.
[09:50] <ikonia> sky_1: no it can't
[09:50] <clearscreen> ikonia: it can still become an issue when wine has / mapped as a harddrive and you run an infected windows binary through wine :)
[09:50] <puff> sky_1:  Windows, of course, gets viruses.
[09:50] <eaxxae> does anyone know of a pdf viewer/editor  that is capable of bookmarks, highlighting, saving page you quit/exit on, built in document management/searching ?
[09:50] <sky_1> ikonia: they can
[09:50] <ikonia> clearscreen: sure it can
[09:50] <puff> sky_1: You are worried about those viruses somehow  inserting copies of themselves into files on the ubuntu partition, right?
[09:50] <sky_1> puff: dont have Windows ...dont have fat32 or ntfs partition
[09:50] <ikonia> clearscreen: if it's infected though - it's infected, too late
[09:50] <clearscreen> ikonia: that's true.
[09:50] <puff> sky_1: Oh?  Are you running windows .exe files under wine or something?
[09:51] <ikonia> sky_1: there is nothing to worry about, just use your software as you would normally, and apply common sense
[09:51] <sky_1> puff yea wine
[09:51] <puff> ikonia: I guess that's a good question:  how wel-quarantined are windows exes when run under wine?
[09:51] <rww> puff: "apt-get --print-uris install PACKAGENAME", then press enter at the continue? prompt. It'll print out a list of URLs for the packages you need.
[09:51] <rww> puff: assuming I'm reading you right, anyway.
[09:52] <ikonia> puff: you can also ado an apt-get --dry-run to simulate the install and get your notes
[09:52] <sky_1> ikonia: no i cant use my software because virus problem -> example wow got infection by W32.Parite and if i start it i get error...
[09:52] <isismelting> ikonia: originally i was having problems with update-manager & apt-get, & they seem to have corrected themselves after having moved /etc/apt/sources.list.d & updating
[09:52] <ziroday> sky_1: then run clamav and remove the virus
[09:52] <ikonia> sky_1: there can be situations where wine/windows thinks it is a virus BECAUSE it is running in wine
[09:52] <clearscreen> sky_1: don't bother trying to run a virusscan, just delete your WoW install and reinstall
[09:52] <ikonia> sky_1: if a binary is infected - remove it and re-install it, don't try to clean it
[09:53] <puff> rww, ikonia:  will those work when run on a machine that already has those packages installed?
[09:53] <sky_1> ikonia: i tried reinstall it but i get virus again !
[09:53] <ikonia> puff: I think so
[09:53] <ikonia> sky_1: then it is either a.) your install media b.) s problem of it running under wine, not a virus
[09:53] <clearscreen> ikonia: tried it, doesnt work :P
[09:53] <JessicaParker> having an issue with apt-get update failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu - any ideas on whether this is an incorrect http:// or how i can direct the apt-get update to the correct url thanks
[09:53] <n2diy> anybody heard of jetcast? Set it up in Ubuntu?
[09:54] <puff> sky_1: The only way for one of your windows-exe-under-wine files to get infected is on a real windows box.
[09:54] <ikonia> JessicaParker: that doesn't look like a valid FQDN
[09:54] <puff> sky_1: So if you scan them with windows anti-virus before copying them over to linux, you're safe.
[09:54] <rww> puff: mine won't. If you want apt-get to give you ALL of the dependencies of the packages, not the ones that aren't installed... well, that'd be a lot of packages =/
[09:54] <sky_1> ikonia: its not....i downloaded original WoW from Blizzard...and install it....and then try install game from original DVD.....all was good for 2 weeks...and now i have virus on it
[09:54] <isismelting> what is a good textual web browser for linux?
[09:54] <JessicaParker> ikonia: any ideas whaat a correct one is or which file i change to make it a good default one ?
[09:54] <puff> Is there a way I can just install the packages and have it keep the package files cached?
[09:55] <clearscreen> puff: you could try to pipe outputs of "apt-cache depends" somewhere
[09:55] <ikonia> sky_1: then that will be in game content which virus protection won't be able to protect against
[09:55] <rww> isismelting: w3m comes with Ubuntu and works fine for me
[09:55] <n2diy> isismelting: lynx
[09:55] <ikonia> JessicaParker: /etc/apt/sources.list is the file to change
[09:55] <ziroday> puff: you can use apt-catcher to setup a local repo
[09:55] <JessicaParker> ikonia: any ideas what to change the file to ?
[09:55] <isismelting> rww: thanks, w3m looks to be just want i need
[09:55] <ikonia> sky_1: if you have downloaded the original media - and it is saying there is a virus after a re-install.......you can see the problem
[09:56] <isismelting> n2diy: thanks, but lynx doesn't seem to work well for me
[09:56] <ikonia> JessicaParker: a valid repo, JessicaParker please show me the full name again
[09:56] <sky_1> ikonia: when i downloaded it...there wasnt virus...
[09:56] <ikonia> sky_1: so re-install it from that source
[09:56] <clearscreen> puff: this'll give you a list of dependencies for the 'wine' package: apt-cache depends wine | grep Depends | awk '{ print $2 }'
[09:57] <clearscreen> puff: just need to pipe that to something that gives you a uri to the package
[09:57] <clearscreen> puff: that includes deps of deps i believe
[09:57] <puff> clearscreen: Yes but do I need to worry about the dependcies of the dependencies, or does depends get all of them?
[09:57] <rww> clearscreen, puff: I don't think it includes deps of deps =/
[09:57] <JessicaParker> ikonia: http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-en.GB.bz2
[09:57] <ikonia> JessicaParker: ahhh ubuntu.com - that looks better
[09:57] <puff> clearscreen: Make up your mind :-)
[09:57] <sky_1> puff: you try to say me that i cant get virus on ext3 to exe ?
[09:58] <clearscreen> puff, rww: well it's a tough problem, deps of deps are annoying :P
[09:58] <JessicaParker> ikonia: im not on x how do i edit the file ?
[09:58] <rww> clearscreen, puff: Since, e.g., that command doesn't give the dependencies of dpkg
[09:58] <ikonia> JessicaParker: yes, looks like that host is down
[09:58] <ikonia> JessicaParker: any text editor you're comfortable with, nano, vi, emacs, whatever you like to use normally
[09:58] <clearscreen> rww: ah I see, but dpkg is listed as 'Pre Depends'
[09:58] <puff> I shoulda just made a custom liveCD.  Sigh.
[09:58] <ml__> JessicaParker, nano
[09:58] <clearscreen> I think you only need to check deps for 'Pre Depends'
[09:59] <ikonia> don't forget some dependencies are optional depending on the other software you already have installed
[09:59] <rww> clearscreen: Exact same thing with ia32-libs's dependencies, and none of those are predepends
[09:59] <ikonia> eg: an installer may have an optional dep for php5 - that it will install if it has apache on the system
[10:00] <rww> Generating a list of ALL of the dependencies of dependencies of dependencies of... etc. will end up with a lot of packages, including a lot of the base system, for many packages =/
[10:00] <qawse> wenn I plug in a USB HD, the HD is not detected (dmesg does not change)
[10:00] <clearscreen> rww: yeah
[10:00] <qawse> it can be that last time I did not umounted it
[10:00] <ikonia> rww: --dry-run would be a better option to see what it will actually do from a base system
[10:00] <qawse> what can I do, if I do not want to reboot the system?
[10:01] <rww> ikonia: --dry-run sees what it will do on the current system, not a base system. puff said the package might already be installed, in which case it just outputs "PACKAGENAME is already the newest version."
[10:02] <ikonia> ahhh
[10:02] <clearscreen> rww, ikonia, puff: I'm no expert, but I think puff should just take one of those machines home, install the appropriate packages, and then clone it across the other 9 machines with dd, problem solved
[10:06] <Andrea_21> hello room can anyone help me my usb wifi is not showing up in lsusb and dmesg
[10:06] <clearscreen> puff, rww, ikona: By default, apt-rdepends shows a listing of each dependency a package has.It will also look at each of these fulfilling packages, and recursively lists their dependencies.
[10:06] <compguy1011> !wifi
[10:06] <f4LL3n> !wifi
[10:06] <Zedde> Hello I'm running Ubuntu system as HOST and vmware server 2 , the guest system are running under the NAT interface, is there a way that I can add so my LAN can access the guest os ?
[10:06] <emile> i'm trying to configure repeater mode on atheros 5424/2424 using ubuntu9.04 madwifi0.9.4 first interface (ath0) no problem configuring as ap, second interface ath1 always give error ioctl: input/output error. Any hints on how-to get both ap and sta on one card?
[10:06] <Andrea_21> linksys wusb54g v4
[10:06] <puff> What happened to the repository management entry in System/Administration?
[10:07] <Zedde> what i realy want is to make ubuntu route trafic like a gateway
[10:07] <eaxxae> Zedde: linux networking is highly documented.. should be easy
[10:07] <compguy1011> im running debian5, any pros to ubuntu? or cons?
[10:07] <Zedde> all I finde is to make it NAT but I don't like it to NAT the trafic
[10:08] <eaxxae> compguy1011: no.. ubuntu is based on debian
[10:08] <puff> compguy1011: Generally I find ubuntu better for desktop/media oriented stuff.
[10:08] <Regel> how can i turn off integrated laptop microphone?
[10:08] <compguy1011> puff, im on a hp dv8408us with 2gb ram
[10:09] <JessicaParker> ok cant use vi - does anyone how how to direct apt-get update to www.ubuntu.com without amending the sources.list file as i cant use vi thanks
[10:09] <puff> compguy1011: Though AFAIK the debian and ubuntu folks have been very collegial and have worked hard at getting drivers, bug fixes, etc, migrated into both rsets of repositories.
[10:09] <zxcv> I am experiencing quite a large delay when restoring application windows when they were minimized (especially full screen ones). It seems to be happening only when Visual Effects in the Appearance Preferences is set to Normal or Extra.
[10:09] <lstarnes> JessicaParker: you could try nano
[10:09] <clearscreen> puff: hold on, almost got it :p
[10:10] <n2diy> JessicaParker: just use gedit to edit the source list.
[10:10] <JessicaParker> n2diy: not in x but nano looks better to use that vi
[10:10] <eaxxae> puff: ubuntu is built upon debian.. no offense but, we all know the real story
[10:11] <eaxxae> it's basically rebranding with some non-free , more recent packages
[10:11] <n2diy> JessicaParker: ah, ok, nano is a little more straightforward the vi.
[10:11] <lstarnes> JessicaParker: vim is better than vi
[10:11] <frybye> n2diy: what about gedit ?
[10:11] <eaxxae> lstarnes: what about emacs ? *grin*
[10:11] <lstarnes> eaxxae: eww
[10:11] <frybye> oh well...
[10:11] <n2diy> frybye: you need x to run it.
[10:12] <compguy1011> puff, eaxxae how about ubuntu remix?
[10:12] <frybye> oh right and she dont have it or..?
[10:12] <chronographer> anyone good with teeworlds?
[10:12] <puff> eaxxae: Come again?
[10:12] <chronographer> I want to know if I can list available maps in the server?
[10:12] <n2diy> frybye: right, she is apparently cli only.
[10:12] <frybye> - sorry I only just stumbled in here.. should keep my peace fora  bit..
[10:12] <edu> ciao
[10:12] <duvld> I need to get java 6 virtual machine working in Firefox. I installed sun-java6-jre already, but it does not seem to be in Firefox, which has java enabled in preferences/content.  What else do I have to do/get??
[10:12] <eaxxae> puff: which part are you confused with ?
[10:12] <edu> !list
[10:13] <puff> eaxxae: I am confused as to why you are implying that I was lying about the debian-ubuntu connection.
[10:13] <deebo> is there some way around the ubuntu server 8.04 distro failing to install without a cdrom
[10:13] <puff> eaxxae: However, looking at your next comment, it's clear you're a troll, so nevermind.
[10:13] <deebo> im installing from a usb key
[10:13] <duvld> I have gotten it working before by downloading the tar.gz and installing seperate from package manager.  With this new install I want to do everything with package manager, which I used for sun-java6-jre. can this be done?
[10:13] <eaxxae> puff:  never said you were lying, just maybe confused
[10:14] <puff> eaxxae: Okay, you implied that I was confusing the debian-ubuntu connection.
[10:15] <compguy1011> thoughts on ubuntu remix?
[10:15] <compguy1011> yay nay...
[10:15] <eaxxae> puff: the connection is simple... Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is built".
[10:15] <duvld> yay
[10:15] <eaxxae> puff: that's right off the ubuntu site
[10:16] <puff> eaxxae: Have a nice life, troll.
[10:16] <eaxxae> puff: name calling, very mature
[10:17] <puff> eaxxae: Trolling, very mature.
[10:17] <compguy1011> wow, chatroom fights, just like obama says "Special Olympics"
[10:17] <duvld> i agree with puff, at least last 2 statements ive seen.. goblin
[10:17] <eaxxae> compguy1011, really original handle you have there, how'd you think that up ?
[10:17] <clearscreen> puff: I give up.. but here's some pointers.. get apt-rdepends, and then use this to grab all the packages you will need: sudo apt-rdepends wine | grep Depends | awk '{ print $2 }'
[10:18] <clearscreen> puff: Im not sure how to resolve that to urls though :)
[10:18] <rww> eaxxae, compguy1011, puff, duvld: How about we drop this conversation or take it to PM, please?
[10:18] <puff> rww: I'l take drop it for $500, Alex.
[10:18] <compguy1011> when i was 10 i wanted to be a programer, so i liked compguy and binary#'s 1011
[10:18] <compguy1011> had it for 14years
[10:18] <puff> compguy1011: Don't worry about it, let's leave that convo behind.
[10:19] <duvld> rww: lol I just got here, but if were talking about debian being stable or not... how long has it been around and they finally got around to 5?
[10:19] <puff> duvld: Debian is insanely stable.
[10:19] <rww> duvld: Drop it.
[10:19] <puff> duvld: That's part of why it took so long to get to 5 ;-).
[10:19] <puff> Ah crap, hm.
[10:19] <n2diy> anybody heard of jetcast? Set it up in Ubuntu?
[10:19] <ziroday> n2diy: what is jetcast?
[10:19] <puff> n2diy: Nope, sorry.
[10:19] <compguy1011> osx is better then windows, and linux is better then osx... there! haha
[10:20] <ziroday> compguy1011: do you have a question we can help you with?
[10:20] <puff> compguy1011: Enough.  Stop.
[10:20] <duvld> i do
[10:20] <duvld> I need to get java 6 virtual machine working in Firefox. I installed sun-java6-jre already, but it does not seem to be in Firefox, which has java enabled in preferences/content.  What else do I have to do/get??
[10:20] <n2diy> ziroday: a streaming audio format, www.wor710.com uses it for there live audio.
[10:20] <duvld> I have gotten it working before by downloading the tar.gz and installing seperate from package manager.  With this new install I want to do everything with package manager, which I used for sun-java6-jre. can this be done?
[10:20] <puff> ziroday: Mainly he's just trying to get some sense of the linux landscape and see which distro he wants to try.
[10:20] <compguy1011> no, lol just everyone fights for no reason, its pointless
[10:21] <ziroday> !java | duvld
[10:21] <Nephilus> I need help when i try and search for CCSM it isn't there. I know this is the repos i just don't know which ones to add. anyone know?
[10:21] <ml__> Is it possible to stream media to xbox 360 from ubuntu?
[10:21] <ziroday> n2diy: hmm, can't it just to do mp3 streams?
[10:21] <Nephilus> er what repo do i need to add to get CCSM?
[10:21] <eaxxae> compguy: he should have directed you to an established page , rather than relay his personal opinion ... I would have linked you on http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/Debian and left it at that
[10:21] <ziroday> ml__: yep, through any UPnP server I believe
[10:21] <duvld> hm, it must be installed then and the website I was is bugged :/
[10:22] <Nephilus> I guess would be my q summed up :)
[10:22] <rww> Nephilus: did you search for "compizconfig-settings-manager"?
[10:22] <Nephilus> Yes
[10:22] <ziroday> Nephilus: its in universe
[10:22] <n2diy> ziroday: I don't know? I go to www.wor710.com, click on listen live, and I'm instructed to install jetcast, and the file is an .exe.
[10:22] <ml__> ziroday, do you have any suggestions? I've tried mediatomb works great for ps3, but i havent gotten it to work for xbox360
[10:22] <puff> compguy1011: Anyway, ubuntu is probably the first debian-derived distro that actually managed to maintain very good relations iwth the debian project, and they worked hard to migrate bugfixes and driver support back into debian.
[10:22] <ziroday> ml__: have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794489 ?
[10:23] <compguy1011> someone should invent a new IRC layout, its been a cluttered and has been the same for ever, maybe some way of making a chatroom less cluttered
[10:23] <ziroday> compguy1011: great idea, why not talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic instead of here
[10:23] <ml__> ziroday, checking it out. thanks
[10:23] <eaxxae> lmfao
[10:23] <compguy1011> lol
[10:23] <Nephilus> I have double checked and it is not there. so i am confused
[10:23] <puff> compguy1011: Ubuntu's started getting popular about 4 years ago, so things may have shifted since then, but their basic emphasis seemed to be focusing on the major complaints that people had about debian, without losing the core things that make debian cool.
[10:24] <rww> Nephilus: have you done "sudo apt-get update" recently?
[10:24] <ziroday> ml__: I would read through the whole thread if I was you
[10:24] <puff> compguy1011: One of which is the debian community, obviously.
[10:24] <Nephilus> no
[10:24] <rww> Nephilus: do that then try again
[10:24] <ziroday> Nephilus: what is your repo?
[10:24] <Nephilus> i should prob do that
[10:24] <eaxxae> puff: .... link on the page, move on , we don't need a history lesson
[10:24] <compguy1011> puff, ic
[10:25] <puff> compguy1011: Those major things included drive support, better support for desktop-y stuff (e.g. media formats), a more flexible approach to dealing with non-free code, and a very set, regular release schedule and maintenance window schedule.
[10:25] <Ned__> how do I choose the server I want on xchat?
[10:25] <puff> compguy1011: Arguably, these days some/many of those issues are no longer a problem with debian.
[10:25] <Nephilus> H/o let me update first and see if that works
[10:25] <Nephilus> My repos are http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[10:25] <Nephilus> btw
[10:25] <puff> Er, not drive support, _driver_ support.
[10:25] <clearscreen> damn, why do they have to make this so hard... why can't you just do --print-uris when the package is already installed
[10:25] <Nephilus> and then the other one is the same just source cod
[10:25] <compguy1011> ic
[10:25] <Nephilus> *code
[10:26] <puff> clearscreen: Let's put PerryArmstrong on that one :-).
[10:26] <clearscreen> puff: read my previous message? :>
[10:26] <Nephilus> I just reinstalled so i bet i just have to update
[10:26] <ziroday> Ned__: XChat > Network List?
[10:26] <mark__> any one there for talk
[10:26] <clearscreen> puff: just need a command now to translate from package name to deb url
[10:27] <lstarnes> Ned__: also, the /server command
[10:27] <puff> clearscreen: nah, jsut sudo aptitude download packagename
[10:27] <Nephilus> does anyone know how to make ubuntu look like windows 7?
[10:27] <Nephilus> i searched gnome look and they didn't have anything
[10:27] <Ned__> ok thanks lstarnes
[10:27] <clearscreen> puff: fixed your problem then ;)
[10:27] <Nephilus> my fingers are twitchy
[10:28] <ziroday> Nephilus: take a look at the win4lin project
[10:28] <ziroday> Nephilus: err thats not it
[10:28] <mark__> need help trying to burn a dvd in ubuntu ceeps  crashing any one help me
[10:28] <puff> clearscreen: Yay!
[10:28] <clearscreen> puff: sudo apt-rdepends wine | grep Depends | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs aptitude download
[10:28] <duvld> if anyone had similar prob: I had to install x-java-plugin.  went to sun's website to download java, clicked "do I have java" and firefox prompted me to install the plugin without downloading/installing manually
[10:28] <clearscreen> puff: you'll have to apt-get install apt-rdepends first :P
[10:28] <Nephilus> what does rm --r do?
[10:28] <puff> apt-rdepends?
[10:28] <puff> oh.
[10:29] <clearscreen> Nephilus: recursive delete
[10:29] <lstarnes> Nephilus: it removes a directory and all of its contents
[10:29] <n2diy> Nephilus: deletes your hard drive.
[10:29] <Nephilus> that is waht i though
[10:29] <Nephilus> *thought
[10:29] <cdm10> my hard drive is constantly unloading/reloading its heads on my new laptop -- a few times each minute. How can I fix this?
[10:29] <Nephilus> wouldnt' you have to be sudo
[10:29] <ml__> mark__, have u tried burning at lower speed? sounds stupid but first thing i tried and it worked.
[10:29] <lstarnes> n2diy: only when it tries to remove root or a mounted filesystem
[10:29] <compguy1011> will they ever make a distro that gets rid of the command line? were everything will just be point click?
[10:29] <grawity> Nephilus: Actually, rm --r doesn't do anything, it just gives an error message.
[10:29] <Nephilus> cool
[10:30] <prince_jammys> compguy1011: hopefully not
[10:30] <catalinalexandru> hello world :)
[10:30] <grawity> Nephilus: The correct is rm -rf /
[10:30] <eaxxae> get rid of CLI
[10:30] <WatchBot> !danger | grawity
[10:30] <lstarnes> compguy1011: the command line will never die
[10:30] <clearscreen> compguy1011: try windows :P
[10:30] <eaxxae> is he serios ?
[10:30] <grawity> WatchBot: O_o
[10:30] <Nephilus> wouldn't you have to be root thus making it rm -rf /
[10:30] <catalinalexandru> grawity: you're an idiot ...
[10:30] <WatchBot> !danger | Nephilus
[10:30] <Nephilus> ?
[10:30] <puff> clearscreen: Yoiks, that's a lotta packages.
[10:30] <compguy1011> well they want people to move from windows to linux, and thats their biggest complaint
[10:30] <Nephilus> lol
[10:30] <Nephilus> funny
[10:30] <clearscreen> puff: hihi :)
[10:30] <n2diy> lstarnes: whatever, I learned early to alias that command to something more difficult to use.
[10:30] <mark__> tryed that still the same  i have checked the roms and the ide ribbins both as thay shud be
[10:30] <land> can anyone help me w/ postgreSQL installation?
[10:30] <eaxxae> compguy: you don't have to use command line, there are GUI package managers, and .. quit trolling with retarded questions
[10:31] <compguy1011> what is trolling?
[10:31] <jussi01> !troll | compguy1011
[10:31] <eaxxae> google it
[10:31] <Nephilus> Does anyone know how i could make my app places and system button all just one vista like button just with an ubuntu symbol on it?
[10:31] <catalinalexandru> I LOVE UBUNTU
[10:31] <puff> compguy1011: It's off-=tpoic for here, go over to #ubuntu-offtopic todiscuss it further :-).
[10:31] <ziroday> Nephilus: add the other menu applet
[10:32] <Nephilus> yeah but i wanted it to pop out above the menu
[10:32] <eaxxae> compguy: if you've had a nick on irc for 14 years, you know what trolling is... I'm surprized they havent kb'ed you already
[10:32] <compguy1011> i never said irc, just the nick
[10:32] <eaxxae> whatever, google your stupid questions before asking them
[10:32] <Nephilus> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=101669&file1=101669-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Broken+Vista+Emerald+Theme
[10:32] <Nephilus> like that
[10:33] <jussi01> compguy1011: please try to keep on topic. thanks :)
[10:33] <Nephilus> The button on the image anyways
[10:33] <Nephilus> !paste
[10:33] <ziroday> Nephilus: I have no idea how to do that, sorry
[10:33] <Nephilus> darn
[10:33]  * grawity looks around
[10:33] <rww> !guidelines > eaxxae
[10:34] <ubuntool> Hi, Could anybody advise which languages would be useful to learn if one were interested in pursuing a career in network security ?
[10:34] <prince_jammys> english
[10:34] <ubuntool> Jammys: Die in a car fire :D
[10:35] <jussi01> ubuntool: thats more an #ubuntu-offtopic question ;)
[10:35] <eaxxae> lol
[10:35] <prince_jammys> ubuntool: knowing the shell, for one.
[10:35] <jussi01> ubuntool: and please try to keep it civil ;)
[10:35] <ubuntool> apologies,
[10:35] <prince_jammys> not really a "language", but ...
[10:35] <zaccour> which usb tv tuners work well with Ubuntu?
[10:36] <Nephilus> GnoMenu
[10:36] <jussi01> !tv | zaccour
[10:36] <zaccour> ubottu, thanks
[10:36] <Nephilus> is cairo dock in repos?
[10:37] <Nephilus> ubottu is advanced
[10:37] <grawity> not very
[10:37] <jussi01> !find cairo
[10:37] <Nephilus> compared to the one in linux mints channel it is
[10:38] <Nephilus> !find compizconfig
[10:38] <meoblast001> hi i need some help
[10:38] <Nephilus> it is there
[10:38] <prince_jammys> Nephilus: cairo-dock appears not to be in repos.
[10:38] <Nephilus> yeah...
[10:38] <Nephilus> darn
[10:38] <grawity> meoblast001: ?
[10:38] <meoblast001> i followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797653 and got this error "Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Connection refused"
[10:38] <jussi01> !info cairo-dock
[10:38] <txtest> Current Server: irc.freenode.net:6667 (15 other server(s) available on freenode.net).
[10:38] <txtest> Total Users (across 4 network(s) and 8 channel(s)): 4594
[10:38] <txtest> Lines received since startup: 17296 (28.861 lines/minute)
[10:38] <txtest> I've been running for 9 hours, 59 minutes and 17 seconds.
[10:38] <txtest> Incoming data: 1.58 MBytes.
[10:38] <FloodBot1> txtest: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:38] <txtest> Memory Usage: 4.332 MBytes.
[10:38] <prince_jammys> Nephilus: i take that back.
[10:38] <Nephilus> where can i download cairo dock
[10:39] <meoblast001> awww.... my statement got pushed up really far
[10:39] <clearscreen> puff: btw, that doesnt take into account some packages depending on the same thing, so some libs will probably be downloaded like 2 or 3 times.. guess that's not really a big problem
[10:39] <Nephilus> besides from berli dl from .de take forever
[10:39] <jussi01> Nephilus: its in the repos...
[10:39] <prince_jammys> Nephilus: well, it's not in hardy repos, but the block claims it's there for intrepid
[10:39] <puff> clearscreen: If they're all fed into the same download command, should just get them once.
[10:39] <prince_jammys> Nephilus: i meant `bot' when i said block
[10:39] <Nephilus> ...Should i download repo version?
[10:39] <rww> txtest: Bots aren't allowed in this channel =/
[10:40] <clearscreen> puff: I'm not sure if they are, i think it spawns aptitude for every download, could be wrong too :P
[10:40] <Aggro> I'm using Jaunty beta version with a thin client. Sounds work first, but after about an minute they stop working. If everything is restarted, sounds again work untill they suddenly fail. Where should I search for more info?
[10:40] <zaccour> which usb tv tuners work well with Ubuntu? linuxtv.org does not have a list of usb tv tuners, no tv tuners at all
[10:40] <Nephilus> The non-beta version. Lol
[10:40] <clearscreen> Aggro: #ubuntu+1
[10:41] <Nephilus> KDE-k desktop environment. Alot of words for "cr@p
[10:41] <Nephilus> "
[10:41] <prince_jammys> be nice
[10:41] <jussi01> Nephilus: please keep on topic and polite.
[10:41] <Aggro> clearscreen: thanks
[10:41] <prince_jammys> at least say krap
[10:41] <Nephilus> I'm allowed to state facts right?
[10:41] <clearscreen> prince_jammys: lol
[10:42] <clearscreen> Nephilus: all-mighty linus would disagree :(
[10:42] <Nephilus> I mean i know opinions are but facts?
[10:42] <prince_jammys> Nephilus: now, now...
[10:42] <Nephilus> Is Linus still alive
[10:42] <clearscreen> !offtopic | Nephilus
[10:42] <Nephilus> ?
[10:42] <clearscreen> :P
[10:42] <serpico> ola
[10:42] <prince_jammys> ikonia++
[10:43] <serpico> ragazzi voglio formattare subito in ext4 senza che dopo faccia una conversione è possibile?
[10:43] <prince_jammys> !it | serpico
[10:43] <Nephilus> Is linus still alive?
[10:43] <prince_jammys> += 2
[10:43] <n2diy> ! es | serpico
[10:43] <serpico> ops sorry
[10:43] <serpico> :D
[10:43] <jussi01> !hcl | zaccour
[10:44] <Psuedo> Ubuntu's installation is so much better then Fedora's
[10:46] <meoblast001> i followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797653 and got this error "Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Connection refused"
[10:47] <puff> Hm.
[10:47] <puff> THat's odd, there's no dhcp line in /etc/network/interfaces.
[10:47] <puff> Is that normal?
[10:47] <Psuedo> Ubuntu's installation is so much better then Fedora's... don't you think?
[10:47] <jussi01> Psuedo: this is not a discussion channel
[10:47] <jussi01> Psuedo: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:48] <un|matrix> guys try scrolling this shitty website w/ FF on ubuntu: http://blog.michaelharper.net/  it kills the CPU
[10:49] <puff> un|matrix: Probably a flash banner, I had a problem like tha tonce.
[10:49] <puff> un|matrix: Now I never fly without flashblock.
[10:49] <un|matrix> puff: no flash banners, i have adblock
[10:49] <grawity> AdblockPlus ftw
[10:49] <eaxxae> do you guys plan on adding e17 to ubuntu ?
[10:49] <prince_jammys> that won't block the annoying flash ones, last i checked
[10:49] <rww> puff: Yeah. The only lines in interfaces by default are loopback (lo)'s
[10:49] <prince_jammys> eaxxae: it's there in the repos, no?
[10:50] <prince_jammys> or is it an old enlightenment?
[10:50] <eaxxae> one second
[10:50] <eaxxae> it's not in the default repos
[10:51] <eaxxae> you have to modify apt sources
[10:51] <prince_jammys> ah
[10:51] <prince_jammys> i like it
[10:51] <rww> prince_jammys: I don't see it in the Ubuntu repos after Hardy.
[10:51] <DkySven> hello people, can someone tell me how to downgrade from jaunty to intrepid?
[10:51] <rww> !downgrade | DkySven
[10:51] <rww> DkySven: aka, you can't.
[10:52] <un|matrix> DkySven: may i ask why u wanna downgrade?
[10:52] <zxcv> I am experiencing quite a large delay when restoring application windows when they were minimized (especially full screen ones). It seems to be happening only when Visual Effects in the Appearance Preferences is set to Normal or Extra.
[10:52] <un|matrix> DkySven: because i've been thinking of upgrading ...
[10:52] <noukist> hi all
[10:52] <eaxxae> so, I guess my question would be 'when is e17 going to be added to default repos' , don't know if I trust random repos.. they can get hacked/etc
[10:52] <DkySven> I can't get fglrx to work and radeon and the ati driver don't give real fast 3D support, for instance I can't play Urban Terror with normal frame rate, un|matrix
[10:54] <rww> eaxxae: Since e16 is in Universe, I'd assume we'll add e17 when it gets to a more stable Debian repo. They only have it in experimental right now.
[10:55] <eaxxae> rww: gotcha, thx
[10:55] <puff> With the liveCD, how do you ssh into the default user (ubuntu) from the outside world?
[10:56] <puff> e.g. what'sthe password, or do I need to set one?
[10:56] <puff> This is after, of course, installing openssh-server.
[10:56] <android> hi
[10:56] <code64> hi
[10:57] <DkySven> could someone tell me how downgrading can destroy your system?
[10:58] <code64> for one certain features might not work
[10:58] <code64> like wireless for example
[10:58] <eaxxae> DkySven: the libraries and installed packages have dependences, when you upgrade... the list of dependences/etc changes I think. It'd be much easier to just do a fresh install after backing up your data
[10:58] <puff> DkySven: apt isn't as good at resolving dependencies going backward as it is going forward.
[10:58] <eaxxae> DkySven: why are you trying to downgrade ?
[10:59] <DkySven> ok, thanks
[10:59] <DkySven> trouble with the ati drives, eaxxae
[10:59] <rww> eaxxae: because he installed a development release without reading the release notes and is unhappy at problems documented therein
[10:59] <DkySven> I read fglrx did work now
[10:59] <code64> linux and ati = bad combination
[10:59] <DkySven> but apparently it doesn't
[10:59] <code64> nvidia and linux = good combination
[10:59] <MrMentalRay> all package systems has its drawbacks. Praise yourself lucky that dpkg is the best..
[11:00] <eaxxae> DkySven: can you backup and reinstall ?
[11:00] <rww> DkySven: It only works for newer cards, as the release notes say.
[11:00] <DkySven> I have a seperate /home partition, so that should be no problem
[11:00] <code64> since i know linux mint is based off of ubuntu have any of you tried it out?
[11:00] <puff> DkySven: I really like to put /home on a different partition than / for precisely that reason, so I can reinstall the system partition without disturbing my user data.
[11:00] <DkySven> ok, rww, maybe a little too much wishful thinking on my side, I have a raden 200M
[11:00] <MrMentalRay> ati has actually released source for it's driver interfaces, so we can see better opensource drivers soon
[11:01] <MrMentalRay> but I use Nvidia
[11:01] <puff> DkySven: I also like to keep a separate "bulk data" partition for user data I have physical media for (e.g. mp3s or whatever) so my backup of /home can be smaller, easier and fsater.
[11:01] <MrMentalRay> I use Maya and need a certified GPU
[11:01] <eaxxae> code64: ATI works for me, 3D/everything works fine
[11:01] <code64> nice
[11:01] <code64> eaxxae: have you tried linux mint?
[11:02] <puff> DkySven: If you go that way, one thing to watch out for is that log files, etc on / can fill up a 5GB partition eventually, and usually happens at an awkward time :-).
[11:02] <eaxxae> code64: nope
[11:02] <DkySven> I destroyed my USB stick while formatting it in Windows Vista at a hp mini note to create an Ubuntu startup stick, so Ic an't backup like that anymore
[11:02] <eaxxae> I have a  [Radeon 9200 PRO]
[11:02] <puff> DkySven: So make it a little larger, and keep an eye on it.
[11:02] <MrMentalRay> even if the price isn't worth it for the Quadro cards
[11:02] <DkySven> ok
[11:02] <puff> DkySven: also, ubuntu's package configs tend to put some user data in /var/lib and the like, for example mailman archives.
[11:02] <MrMentalRay> but I get nice AA in most applications
[11:02] <eaxxae> code64: the linux mint mainpage has google adwords.. I'd avoid it like the plague
[11:03] <dayo> eaxxae: that's good advice.
[11:03] <hm> test
[11:03] <ikonia> hm: pass
[11:03] <hm> thnx
[11:04] <MrMentalRay> Last night I purchased the latest Suse Enterprise desktop 11, only to use it for three hours and re-installing Ubuntu. A company thing...
[11:04] <ikonia> MrMentalRay: and why are you telling us this ?
[11:04] <eaxxae> ikonia: he likes ubuntu.. flattery ?
[11:04] <MrMentalRay> just to say that it's not worth it.
[11:05] <ikonia> MrMentalRay: try to keep it to support discussion
[11:05] <MrMentalRay> oh mama. sorry.
[11:05] <ikonia> MrMentalRay: thanks
[11:05] <pronoy> is there a way to make the part of a wallpaper run a script or something...like click on an image and it shuts down your computer..........
[11:06] <ikonia> pronoy: like windows old active desktop ?
[11:06] <prince_jammys> pronoy: you can create a launcher
[11:06] <dayo> pronoy: there should be a red button at the top on your task bar, that let's u shutdown
[11:06] <pronoy> ikonia: i don't think windows desktop allowed you to modify the wallpaper and use it to run a script
[11:07] <rww> pronoy: yes it did.
[11:07] <ikonia> pronoy: active desktop, basiclly a web page as a wallpaper
[11:07] <Kangarooo> Hello! I want the fastest stable linux sistem so i installed Xubuntu and i got everything just like i need exept in Thunar i cant get Network Places! I need to connect to my other computer shared folders and also to this computers windows- this comp is dual boot Xubuntu/Windows
[11:07] <prince_jammys> having the wallpaper run a script sounds a bit nuts, but maybe i'm old fashioned
[11:07] <prince_jammys> sounds like the latter.
[11:07] <pronoy> dayo: thanks dayo but not that stupid you know....i want to make a part of my desktop run script
[11:07] <Kangarooo> How Can i get Thunnar to connect to Network places? Cant find it on google
[11:07] <pronoy> rww: ok i didn't know that
[11:07] <dayo> pronoy: but why?
[11:08] <pronoy> ikonia: so if i clicked on a part of my wallpaper would it allow me to run a script in windows ?
[11:08] <eaxxae> pronoy: don't think gnome supports setting anything beyond images as wallpapers/etc.. but you could setup some keyboard shortcuts
[11:08] <ikonia> pronoy: that was active desktop yes,
[11:08] <ikonia> pronoy: just create a shotcut icon
[11:08] <MrMentalRay> If you want fast, and have CPU that supports it, install the realtime kernel, and compile the modules u need for it...
[11:08] <pronoy> dayo: no reason just want to try it :)
[11:09] <ikonia> MrMentalRay: again - why are you telling us this
[11:09] <Guest21328> Anyone have a tablet pc ? and know haw to make it working under 8.10 ??
[11:09] <dayo> ikonia: lol
[11:09] <devon> anyone here using webcamstudio for ubuntu?
[11:09] <MrMentalRay> ikonia: what's your pain?
[11:09] <ikonia> MrMentalRay: you're just making random pointless comments about your opinion
[11:09] <ikonia> MrMentalRay: I've asked you to keep on support discussion only please.
[11:09] <Kangarooo> How Can i get Thunnar to connect to Network places? Cant find it on google
[11:10] <dayo> !ot | MrMentalRay
[11:10] <pronoy> ok i'll be clear this time.......my desktop wall paper has an image of a shutdown button..the one with the huge circle and the line in between...i think it'll be fun if i clicked on that portion of the wallpaper and it ran a script like shutdown the computer
[11:10] <ikonia> pronoy: I think thats not going to happen
[11:10] <pronoy> so is there a way to do this ?
[11:10] <pronoy> ikonia: but if windows can...shouldn't linux be able to :) ??
[11:10] <ikonia> pronoy: no
[11:11] <ikonia> pronoy: active desktop was dropped as a bad idea, why would another OS implement it
[11:11] <rww> Make an icon that looks like the wallpaper, scale it up to the same size as the wallpaper, make it shutdown when clicked on
[11:11] <Kangarooo> Make transperant Window whitch shutsdown on click and put it on that SHUTDOWN place in background pronoy
[11:11] <rww> bad solution to a bad idea :)
[11:11] <pronoy> ikonia: ok i didn' t know that ...man thats a surprise
[11:12] <Guest21328> samone know haw to make tablet pc tablet get working on ubuntu 8.10 ??
[11:12] <ikonia> Guest21328: what part is not working ?
[11:12] <Kangarooo> pronoy: transperant icon.. on click shutdown - picture: shutdown.jpg
[11:12] <pronoy> rww Kangarooo: the problem would be that if you clicked and dragged...you're wall papers gonna come off !! hahah :D
[11:12] <rabby_> hi
[11:12] <rabby_> how to force ubuntu to re-install libc6 completely?
[11:12] <faeryan> pronoy: You could try establishing that same effect by using Screenlets
[11:13] <Guest21328> ikonia: when i add lines for it to xorg conf xorg crashes and start in low graphic mode
[11:13] <pronoy> Kangarooo: i however like your idea and think it might help
[11:13] <ikonia> rabby_: thats a big ask - what's the problem with libc ?
[11:13] <rabby_> i always get the message: tar: relocation error: /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0: symbol errno, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[11:13] <ikonia> Guest21328: what lines ?
[11:13] <ikonia> rabby_: what have you done to libc ?
[11:13] <land> anyone here coding in gambas?
[11:13] <rabby_> within /lib/tls I tried now:
[11:13] <ikonia> land: this is for ubuntu support only
[11:13] <rabby_> ls -l libc.so.6
[11:13] <rabby_> ls: relocation error: /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0: symbol errno, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[11:14] <land> i see
[11:14] <Kangarooo> pronoy: better make icon with command shutdown and icon shutdown.jpg and if you have Nautilus then you can make icon size Bigger
[11:14] <ikonia> rabby_: what have you done to cause this to start happening (what changed)
[11:14] <rabby_> ikonia: i am trying to dist-upgrade an old dapper vserver, but can not do so...
[11:14] <Guest21328> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WacomTroubleshooting
[11:14] <ech0s7> hi
[11:14] <ech0s7> do you know if it's possible to resize widht of menu of gnome? http://f.imagehost.org/view/0209/2009-03-29-094517_1280x800_scrot ?
[11:14] <Kangarooo> pronoy:  or launcher or icon..
[11:14] <ikonia> rabby_: please show me the output of "uname -a"
[11:15] <puff> I'm feeling a little braindead tonight... when setting up ssh password-less login, you only insert the _public_ key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the target system, right?
[11:15] <rabby_> ikonia: Linux lvps87-230-10-72.dedicated.hosteurope.de 2.6.9-023stab048.6-enterprise #1 SMP Mon Nov 17 19:09:18 MSK 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:15] <ikonia> pronoy: worred
[11:15] <imachine> Hi
[11:15] <imachine> I have a problem with fonts
[11:15] <Kangarooo> How Can i get Thunnar to connect to Network places? Cant find it on google
[11:15] <imachine> can someone help me?
[11:15] <puff> Does the private key go in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys if you want bidirectional psaswordless login?
[11:15] <ikonia> rabby_: thats a custom built machine - get support from hosteurope.de
[11:15] <grawity> puff: No.
[11:15] <pronoy> ikonia: sorry ?
[11:15] <ikonia> rabby_: there may be additional moficiations
[11:15] <grawity> puff: The _public_ key goes to authorized_keys.
[11:15] <lstarnes> puff: try the public key
[11:15] <ikonia> pronoy: sorry
[11:15] <imachine> After updating to 9.04, my qt applications have a slightly higher dpi than my gtk apps.
[11:15] <ikonia> pronoy: typo
[11:15] <rakudave> !anyone | imachine
[11:15] <rabby_> ikonia: first, i need to make the glibc run again...
[11:16] <puff> I thought the public key is what I said?
[11:16] <ikonia> rabby_: you need to contact your support company for their custom build
[11:16] <rabby_> any hint for that problem? perhaps a way to reinstall this important package
[11:16] <grawity> puff: <puff> Does the private key go to...
[11:16] <imachine> when I create a new account, it works fine. So, the question is, where does qtconfig-qt4 store it's configs, or what other configs can be a problem?
[11:16] <Kangarooo> How to make thunar to connect to Network places?
[11:16] <puff> grawity: Ok, so you were skipping over the first question and answering the second ;-).
[11:16] <imachine> I removed ~/.config/kde* and ~/.config/Trolltech
[11:16] <ikonia> rabby_: I would not advise trying to re-install anything with glibc having issues - contact the people who made the custom build and ask about possible limitations
[11:16] <grawity> puff: Then I probably joined after you asked the first question :/
[11:17] <puff> grawity: Nope :-).
[11:17] <imachine> any suggestions ?
[11:17] <puff> grawity: Okay,so public key in authorized_keys.  if I want to be able to go in the opposite direction, private key goes where on the destination machine?
[11:17] <grawity> puff: Okay... So what were the questions? :)
[11:17] <grawity> Ah
[11:17] <ikonia> pronoy: private key does not go on destination
[11:17] <ikonia> pronoy: ughgh sorry
[11:17] <ikonia> puff: private key does not go on destination
[11:17] <grawity> puff: Actually, it's like this. The *destination* machine only has the public key, in authorized_keys.
[11:17] <rabby_> i asked them last week and they told me: i can upgrade the server by paying or by doing it on my own for free. so there may not be limitations. but for short time the libc6 symlink has troubles.
[11:17] <puff> grawity: Basially I'm setting up a stand-alone network and I want ssh passwordless login on all the machines for the same username.
[11:17] <imachine> and when it does it's no longer private
[11:17] <imachine> ;)
[11:18] <ikonia> rabby_: then contact them - it's a custom build we don't know what else has changed
[11:18] <puff> grawity: Yeah, for "going in the oppposite direction", e.g. logging in from destination to source machine now.
[11:18] <pronoy> ikonia: don't worry....i write my name and pm myself all the time :D
[11:18] <puff> grawity: and I want to just use the same keypair on all ten machines to keep it simple.
[11:18] <grawity> puff: So...from any machine to any other machine?
[11:18] <ikonia> puff: reverse it private key in your home dir, public in the authorized keys file
[11:18] <puff> ikonia: private key in ~/.ssh/id_dsa?
[11:18] <puff> cool
[11:19] <ikonia> puff: key auth is normally one way so your keys are not all around the place
[11:19] <rabby_> ikonia: what would You tell me, if it was not a custom build?
[11:19] <ikonia> rabby_: it doesn't matter it IS a custom build
[11:19] <puff> Sorry, it's been a long day after several long days and I'm getting punchy now.
[11:19] <ikonia> puff: nothing punchy - you're fine
[11:19] <puff> ikonia: Yeah, but in this case the network is not and never will be connected to anywhere else.
[11:19] <ikonia> puff: private key in all home dir's then, and authorized_keys with public key in all home dir's
[11:21] <puff> Cool.
[11:21] <puff> ikonia: Er, homedir/.ssh, right?
[11:21] <ikonia> puff: bang on
[11:21] <grawity> puff: Yes.
[11:21] <puff> cool.
[11:21] <devon> whats the best webcam software for linux ubuntu.. im using a logitech communicate stx
[11:22] <imachine> ekiga, skype, cheese..
[11:22] <puff> What's the default password of the ubuntu user under a liveCD boot?
[11:22] <frezze> #semarang
[11:22] <imachine> puff, there's none... I think it used to be "ubuntu" tho
[11:22] <devon> thanks
[11:22] <imachine> np
[11:22] <imachine> so how abot my fonts
[11:23] <saxidar> ciao a tutti
[11:23] <devon> will ekiga let me adjust the settings?
[11:23] <imachine> devon, dunno.
[11:23] <imachine> prolly.
[11:23] <imachine> try it, it's there by default.
[11:23] <pronoy> devon: i think cheese is pretty good
[11:23] <imachine> pronoy, it only takes pics.
[11:23] <imachine> pics/vids.
[11:23] <devon> ^
[11:23] <devon> im looking to stream
[11:23] <imachine> not really does any communication.
[11:23] <imachine> devon, so like I've said.
[11:24] <devon> ok
[11:25] <puff> With a liveCD on a flash drive with persistence, I don't have to do anything to make changes persist, right?  They'll just persist on their own?
[11:25] <imachine> puff, try
[11:25] <puff> imachine: Try it and see? :-).
[11:26] <puff> imachine: I tried creating a user account and rebooting, the account was still there. I'm hoping that also applies to instaling packages, changing /etc files, etc.
[11:26] <imachine> puff, so that's that
[11:27] <puff> What perms should .ssh and authorized_keys be?  I found that on the mutant fedoracore5 machines I had to chmod authorized_keys to g-w  (u+r, g-w, o-w).
[11:27] <imachine> mh
[11:28] <puff> But that hadn't been mentioned in any of the other docs I've seen.
[11:28] <grawity> puff: authorized_keys should be 644, I think.
[11:28] <imachine> local machine, you have done ssh-keygen -t rsa/dsa
[11:28] <puff> Yup.
[11:28] <imachine> then cp .ssh/id_rsa.pub
[11:28] <imachine> to the machine remotely into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[11:28] <imachine> which needs to be 600 at most
[11:28] <imachine> and the .ssh folder needs to be 700 or so
[11:28] <imachine> :]
[11:29] <oddicious> hey here .. is it possible roll back on a update?
[11:29] <oddicious> basically i hadnt installed a fuck load of ubuntu updates in about a month and the wireless for the acer aspire one worked FINE.. until last night
[11:29] <oddicious> and now it looks like neither the wireless or the ethernet are working
[11:29] <imachine> oddicious, maybe a new driver or so
[11:29] <puff> oddicious: Sadly, it is non-trivial and fraught with peril.
[11:29] <imachine> look into /var/log/dpkg* or so
[11:30] <puff> oddicious: I've had problems in the past and ultimately ended up just reinstalling.
[11:30] <oddicious> what a load of bollox
[11:30] <u54r> hi
[11:30] <imachine> stop that
[11:30] <u54r> is there a way to connect two interface without bridging ?
[11:31] <imachine> not really
[11:31] <puff> oddicious: Yeah, it's kinda iresome... but no swearing please, this is a family-safe channel.
[11:31] <imachine> you can use a crossed patched cable
[11:31] <imachine> ;]
[11:31] <oddicious> its saying Permission denied when i try to access it via terminal
[11:31] <puff> crossover cable or a router.
[11:31] <u54r> i have a ppp and a virtual bridge
[11:31] <u54r> i cant add the ppp interface to the bridge
[11:31] <u54r> its giving an error
[11:31] <u54r> so needed to do tht
[11:32] <imachine> why would you need it ?
[11:32] <imachine> can't you use ppp0 as the ext device?
[11:32] <u54r> i have ubuntu running as a guest in xen
[11:32] <imachine> yeah
[11:32] <imachine> so,
[11:32] <u54r> and have ppp0 on domU
[11:32] <imachine> nat 1:1
[11:32] <player1up> anyone can help me install flash plug in for firefox on hardy? none of the methods in the documentation seem to work
[11:33] <imachine> u54r, I understand it's not what you want, but it's a solution nonetheless.
[11:33] <oddicious> imachine i got it n but what am i looking for?
[11:33] <imachine> oddicious, whatever that can cause you harm
[11:33] <imachine> oddicious, kernel update, modules update,
[11:33] <imachine> oddicious, networkmanager
[11:33] <imachine> oddicious, you haven't given any dtails regarding the problem you have
[11:33] <imachine> and I;m not in a guess mood
[11:33] <pronoy> player1up: go to youtube...and it'll ask you to install the plugin via firefox
[11:34] <u54r> @imachine is thr a way i can route traffic ?
[11:34] <oddicious> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[11:34] <oddicious> thats my problem
[11:34] <oddicious> thats how its normally fixed
[11:34] <puff> I'm iusing two different user accounts at the moment (to sequester the files related to this consulting gig in a separate user account) but the gnome wifi menubar doohickey doesn't show up in the new account.
[11:34] <puff> Gnome NetworkManager applet.
[11:34] <puff> How do I get it to show up?
[11:35] <imachine> u54r, 'course, iptables.
[11:35] <u54r> ok lemme have a look at that
[11:36] <puff> oddicious: Btw, I advise you to watch the vulgarity, family-oriented channel, etc.   I dunno if there are channel ops about at the moment but they tend to frown on bad langauge.
[11:36] <oddicious> ..
[11:36] <oddicious> i havent cursed
[11:36] <oddicious> im not cursing
[11:36] <oddicious> anyway
[11:36] <FloodBot1> oddicious: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:37] <puff> oddicious: That's just an automatic response any time they see somebody send several lines in quick successon.
[11:37] <oddicious> puff i realise that
[11:37] <oddicious> look
[11:38] <oddicious> it doesnt matter
[11:38] <oddicious> im just frustrated
[11:38] <puff> oddicious: Your first comment on joining used the F-word, which is why I mentioned it.
[11:38] <oddicious> can you help?
[11:38] <oddicious> actually it was the B word
[11:38] <puff> oddicious: I can completely understand that frustration :-)
[11:38] <oddicious> oh ok your right
[11:38] <oddicious> it was the F word
[11:38] <oddicious> my mistake i wont curse again
[11:38] <puff> Yah, no biggie, just a heads up.
[11:38] <oddicious> is there no possible way to roll back on updates
[11:38] <oddicious> back to like a month ago?
[11:39] <puff> oddicious: I had a problem with with a kernel update that broke my laptop's suspend functoin.
[11:39] <oskar-> hi, who has already updated to 9.04 (beta)? is that version already working quite well, or should i wait with upgrading?
[11:39] <puff> oddicious: I tried to roll it back,I knew exactly which file to roll back, etc.
[11:39] <puff> oddicious: It sorta worked, but not really, and ended up being a huge pain.
[11:39] <L3dPlatedLinux> freenas is sweet
[11:39] <puff> oddicious: Apt is not as good at sorting out dependencies going backward.
[11:39] <Myxb> can anyone advise how to convert dictionaries in stardict format into dict format?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> oskar-: works fine here with a clean install, depends on hardware etc I guess
[11:39] <prince_jammys> oskar-: there's a channel #ubuntu+1 where you can ask
[11:39] <puff> Hrm. How is your disk partitioned?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> oskar-: ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:40] <oskar-> thanks!
[11:40] <oddicious> puff
[11:40] <oddicious> i have no idea what im lookin for
[11:40] <oddicious> iv been using ubuntu for like 6 months for browsing and installing but nothing as deep as this shit
[11:40] <puff> imachine: If you have all of your stuff on an LVM on one big physical partition, can you still do the reinstall-just-the-system-stuff trick?
[11:41] <oddicious> sorry
[11:41] <oddicious> didnt mean to curse
[11:41] <puff> oddicious: Yeah, I know :-).
[11:41] <oddicious> im extremely tired
[11:41] <oddicious> and now im annoyed at this problem
[11:41] <oddicious> i dont know what im lookin for
[11:41] <puff> oddicious: Beleive me, been there, felt the pain, I know how you feel.  It's very, very frustrating to get used ot the reliability of linux and the usability ubuntu and then have it fail you.
[11:41]  * oddicious nods
[11:42] <oddicious> but anyway right
[11:42] <oddicious> im in var/log/dkpg .. am i looking for something releated to the wifi card?
[11:42] <puff> Lemme skim that URL you pasted.
[11:42] <puff> Yah, probably.  What's your wireless hardware?
[11:42] <oddicious> umm
[11:42] <oddicious> no idea
[11:43] <oddicious> how do i check
[11:43] <shabgard> Hi dear ubuntu team
[11:44] <shabgard> can you help me abaut squd and ldap?
[11:44] <shabgard> can you help me abaut squid and ldap?
[11:44] <grawity> shabgard: What's your problem?
[11:45] <shabgard> thanks for response
[11:45] <shabgard> thanks for your response
[11:45] <Etha1> hi hi
[11:46] <Etha1> I was just wondering is there somewhere I can file a feature request but not for ubuntu OS but for ubuntu website...
[11:46] <shabgard> for Test ldap at squid I used as squid_ldap_group...but that not covnteraction
[11:46] <prince_jammys> !brainstorm | Etha1: this *might* do
[11:47] <shabgard> can you help me?
[11:47] <ziroday> prince_jammys: yep, thats the right page :) ethan you might also want to talk the nice folk in #ubuntu-website
[11:48] <shabgard> for Test ldap at squid I used as squid_ldap_group...but that not reaction
[11:48] <ethan> I will look at it, thank you prince_jammys (and ubottu :P)
[11:48] <ethan> irc chat, great !
[11:48] <oddicious> puff?
[11:49] <shabgard> grawity....can you help me?
[11:49] <puff> oddicious: Reading, sorry.
[11:49] <puff> Anyone know the answer to my LVM question?
[11:49] <oddicious> ..
[11:50] <shabgard> I 'm waiting....
[11:50] <ethan> I can't join ﻿#ubuntu-website :$ ?
[11:50] <puff> 1) can I take an LVM partition and split off /home as a separate pratition
[11:50] <parag> hello      all
[11:50] <eaxxae> no
[11:50] <eaxxae> 'split off' ... you have to recreate the partition table
[11:51] <eaxxae> you can resize the lvm partition, then create a new partition
[11:51] <parag> havea question about  using cdrom  as bootdevice for sata drive having ubuntu installed on it
[11:51] <ziroday> parag: well what do you want to ask?
[11:52] <parag> problem  is the old dell machine bios does not allow boot through addin sata card not allows usb boot
[11:52] <parag> ziroday:  i want to know how to go about making a custom boot cd that i can use after installing  ubuntu on sata drive
[11:52] <shabgard> exquse me...please hlep
[11:52] <ghostlines> how do i stop services from starting up without unistalling them(like mysql for example) ?
[11:53] <shabgard> for Test ldap at squid I used as ldap_auth...but that not reaction
[11:53] <grawity> ghostlines: /etc/init.d/mysql stop, maybe
[11:53] <shabgard> I used as this commande :/usr/lib/squid# /usr/lib/squid/ldap_auth -b "ou=home,dc=homelab" -h 192.205.200.50 -p 389
[11:54] <shabgard> please...
[11:54] <shabgard> I 'm waiting
[11:54] <shabgard> I used as this commande :/usr/lib/squid/ldap_auth -b "ou=home,dc=homelab" -h 192.205.200.50 -p 389
[11:55] <hemanth> make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 , while trying to recompile kernel , on bzImage
[11:55] <silo> #fireofx
[11:56] <shabgard> please help me about squid and ldap at UBUNTU 8.10
[11:56] <lstarnes> shabgard: you have be patient; don't expect an instant answer.
[11:56] <lstarnes> shabgard: what happens when you run that command?
[11:57] <hemanth>  bzImage error plz help
[11:57] <lstarnes> hemanth: pastebin the full error please
[11:57] <shabgard> not happens...not reaction
[11:57] <hemanth> lstarnes, ok
[11:57] <lstarnes> shabgard: nothing happens?
[11:58] <oskar-> shabgard:  what do you expect to happen?
[11:58] <shabgard> yes nothig happens
[11:58] <Guest80262> I've a 3 ec2 machines run rails web application and I need to setup load balancer to minimize response time. I need to know the best solution?
[11:58] <lstarnes> shabgard: do you know what is supposed to happen?
[11:58] <oskar-> :-)
[11:59] <sonja_> hallo
[11:59] <shabgard> I don't intersting ...
[11:59] <jhesketh_> Hi all.. Can you dd a mounted filesystem?
[11:59] <shabgard> sorry
[11:59] <lstarnes> shabgard: what do you want that command to do?
[11:59] <shabgard> I don't underestand...
[11:59] <sonja_> pleace germany
[11:59] <puff> oddicious: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:59] <shabgard> I used as this commande :/usr/lib/squid/ldap_auth -b "ou=home,dc=homelab" -h 192.205.200.50 -p 389
[12:00] <aprilhare> hello: I understand this bug has been resolved https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/185700 and the correction is available upstream - can i get the correction for intrepid? or do i need to upgrade to jaunty?
[12:00] <sonja_> ich habe gesagt deutsch ihr säcke
[12:00] <n2diy> ! de + sonja_
[12:00] <aprilhare> !de
[12:00] <n2diy> ! de | sonja_
[12:00] <puff> oddicious: So describe what you did and saw.
[12:01] <puff> oddicious: I.e. what symptoms lead you to conclude that you need to downgrade?
[12:01] <oddicious> hmm
[12:01] <oddicious> well
[12:01] <puff> oddicious: And what version of ubuntu are you on?
[12:01] <oddicious> i think its 8.04
[12:01] <oddicious> how do i check?
[12:01] <Guest80262> I've a 3 ec2 machines run rails web application and I need to setup load balancer to minimize response time. I need to know the best solution?
[12:01] <shabgard> lstarnes....please give me a link about this action
[12:01] <oddicious> its 8.10
[12:01] <oddicious> i just checked
[12:02] <hemanth> lstarnes, make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 is wht i'm getting
[12:02] <quibbler> oddicious-> lsb_release -a
[12:02] <lstarnes> shabgard: what are you trying to do?
[12:02] <oddicious> no no
[12:02] <oddicious> im 8.10 man
[12:02] <lstarnes> hemanth: pastebin everything, including that line, everything before it, and the command
[12:02] <aprilhare> I understand the Firefox ugly printing bug has been resolved https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/185700 and the correction is available upstream - can i get the correction for intrepid? or do i need to upgrade to jaunty? (It *is* in jaunty, isn't it?)
[12:03] <hemanth> lstarnes, ok i need to redoit plz give me a moment
[12:03] <lstarnes> aprilhare: if it's in firefox, it will likely make it to older releases
[12:03] <shabgard> I don't understand...
[12:03] <puff> oddicious: So what are you seeing?
[12:03] <aprilhare> lstarnes: that's what i figured - but i have 3.0.8 and it still exhibits the bug
[12:04] <oddicious> no wired internet and no wireless is what im seeing
[12:04] <oddicious> thats my problem
[12:04] <aprilhare> lstarnes: hence the question :)
[12:04] <oddicious> for the Acer Aspireone
[12:04] <puff> oddicious: And it was working before?
[12:04] <oddicious> yes
[12:04] <puff> oddicious: Okay, and how od you know it's not working now?
[12:05] <shabgard> please help me about link squid and ldap..
[12:05] <parag> can anyone help with making custom boot cd  to  boot linux installed on satadrive in ide motherboard
[12:05]  * aprilhare has firefox 3.1 and it has the bug too - did the bugfix get committed? is there a way to check?
[12:05] <oskar-> shabgard:  if you don't know, what you are trying to do, ldap authentication is the wrong choice. try something simpler, or expect no security gain
[12:05] <puff> aprilhare: If it got committed there should be a note on the bug in the bug tracker, right?
[12:05] <lstarnes> shabgard: what language do you speak?
[12:05] <puff> aprilhare: Have you checked there?
[12:06] <oddicious> puff .. because i cant get online man
[12:06] <oskar-> shabgard:  or if it's a language issue, try a localized channel... sorry
[12:06] <shabgard> :) my language is persian..i 'm from IRAN
[12:06] <lstarnes> !ir | shabgard
[12:06] <aprilhare> puff: let me see  https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/185700 says the fix was committed - butdoesn't appear to have been
[12:07] <aprilhare> that is, i still have the same bug here :)
[12:07] <puff> aprilhare: Well it was committed but that doesn't mean it made it to a released version yet.
[12:07] <Guest4261> I need to use load balancer, any one help
[12:07] <puff> aprilhare: I'm afraid I don't know much about it and I'm too busy to go digging on my own for it.
[12:07] <Ademan> speaking of non-latin scripts... if I were to use a font that didn't have, say, chinese characters, would gnome/gtk+ be smart enough to use chinese characters from a font set that had them?
[12:07] <shabgard> Oh no...this site is very weak
[12:07] <aprilhare> puff: who do i have to be nice to get it to release? :D
[12:08] <puff> oddicious: "I can't get online", what, you don't have an internet account?
[12:08] <puff> oddicious: Stop telling me what you *think* is happening and tell me what you *see*.
[12:08] <ziroday> Ademan: yes gnome should fall back on a font that does have chinese characters
[12:08] <aprilhare> cause i'm getting sick and tired of bad kerning from prints :)
[12:08] <puff> aprilhare: Idaknow, maybe send money to canonical? :-).
[12:08] <puff> HM...
[12:08] <puff> Now there's a thought...
[12:09] <Ademan> thanks ziroday
[12:09] <oddicious> puff no man .. i cant get online as in plug in the Wire and it i press connect and it says i dont have an internet connection and then i try to connect wirelessly but i dont have that option any more its like as if i dont have a wireless card in there any more
[12:09] <ziroday> aprilhare: in ubuntu its "Fix Commited" which means a version of firefox with that bug resolved has not been released yet
[12:09] <shabgard> please give me a link reference ubuntu ldap and squid
[12:09] <aprilhare> puff: bribery and corruption. sounds like fun
[12:09] <puff> oddicious: Okay, good, that's more useful.
[12:10] <shabgard> l trying
[12:10] <puff> oddicious: Okay, so now, we have two open questions, 1) why can't your aspire connect and 2) what caused 1.
[12:10] <oskar-> shabgard:  squid+ldap normally is not ubuntu related...
[12:10] <aprilhare> ziroday: what is it waiting on?
[12:10] <shabgard> :(
[12:10] <puff> oddicious: You are assuming 2 but there ar a lot of things that can go wrong.
[12:10] <oddicious> puff 1 .. i dont know why it cant connect 2 .. the UPDATES i did LAST NIGHT caused number 1
[12:10] <oskar-> shabgard:  maybe there is a squid channel? perhaps #squid
[12:11] <ziroday> aprilhare: probably someone to package it, a deb diff. I don't know ask the ubuntu mozilla team
[12:11] <puff> oddicious: Ah, good detail, I'm glad you finally mentioned that :-).
[12:11] <ziroday> aprilhare: there are probably plans to push out a new firefox version for jaunty with the fix in soon
[12:11] <oddicious> puff
[12:11] <puff> oddicious: Actually, you mentioned that at first, so I withdraw that .
[12:11] <guancc686> hello
[12:11] <zardosh> Hi, I try to play sort of WMA with totem, but I get "The playback of this movie requires a Windows Media Speech decoder plugin which is not installed." - with VLC I got no error neither no sound play. any I dea?
[12:11] <oddicious> lol
[12:11] <oddicious> yeah
[12:11] <oddicious> i was about to say that
[12:11] <oddicious> lol
[12:11] <FloodBot1> oddicious: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:11] <puff> oddicious: Okay, so next question, have you rebooted?
[12:11] <oddicious> yes
[12:12] <puff> oddicious: Okay, next question, bring up a terminal window, enter "sudo ifconfig -a"
[12:12] <shabgard> well...
[12:12] <guancc686> why   i can not use totem
[12:13] <puff> oddicious: You should see eth0, eth1
[12:13] <oddicious> i see eth0
[12:13] <oddicious> oh
[12:13] <oddicious> wait hang on
[12:13] <oddicious> it says command not FOUND
[12:13] <jelly12gen> ooh
[12:14] <zardosh> I try to play sort of WMA with totem, but I get "The playback of this movie requires a Windows Media Speech decoder plugin which is not installed." - with VLC I got no error neither no sound play. any Idea?
[12:14] <madsj> I installed sun-java-jdk-6
[12:14] <madsj> but javac cannot be found, even though it's in /usr/bin/
[12:14] <oskar-> zardosh:  they use different codec ;)
[12:14] <ziroday> guancc686: you need to install a codec for the wma file, however I'm not sure if one exists. Install the ubuntu-restricted-extra package
[12:14] <puff> oddicious: Didyou use sudo?
[12:14] <oddicious> yes
[12:14] <puff> oddicious: Pastebin it.
[12:14] <oddicious> lol
[12:14] <oddicious> how?
[12:14] <oddicious> i cant get online
[12:14] <un|matrix> just curious, but what was the record population of this channel?
[12:14] <ziroday> err zardosh ^^, sorry guancc686
[12:14] <puff> oddicious: You're here :-).
[12:15] <oddicious> yes
[12:15] <oskar-> zardosh:  do you have installed the gstreamer codec packs ("good", "bad", "ugly")?
[12:15] <oddicious> but my laptop cant pastebin
[12:15] <oddicious> it doesnt have internet
[12:15] <puff> oddicious: Okay, just kidding.  Don't you have a thumb drive or something?
[12:15] <zardosh> oskar : whats your solution to play WMA
[12:15] <oddicious> dude no no listen
[12:15] <oddicious> here it is WORD for word
[12:15] <oddicious> sudo: ipconfig: Command not fond
[12:15] <puff> ls -l /sbin/ifconfig
[12:15] <ziroday> zardosh: install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[12:15] <puff> oddicious: No iPconfig, iFconfig.
[12:15] <oddicious> oh
[12:15] <oddicious> LOL
[12:15] <un|matrix> lol :)
[12:15] <Guest88179> haw to rotate screan ??
[12:16] <guancc686> oh
[12:16] <puff> oddicious: Don't look now but your windows is showing :-).
[12:16] <ziroday> Guest88179: what video driver?
[12:16] <puff> oddicious: IF for InterFace
[12:16] <guancc686> I am try
[12:16] <Guest88179> nvidia
[12:16] <oddicious> ok now i have stuff from eth0 lo and pan0
[12:16] <puff> Okay then.
[12:16] <puff> sudo ifup -a
[12:16] <puff> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[12:16] <zardosh> thanx ziroday I give a try
[12:16] <puff> eth0 is wired, eth1 is wireless.
[12:17] <ziroday> Guest88179: I'm not sure if you can with the propriatery nvidia driver
[12:17] <oddicious> ok i did both them commands
[12:17] <pronoy> ziroday	Guest88179: try using the nvidia control panel
[12:17] <Guest88179> dont say noooo ;P
[12:17] <ziroday> pronoy: that option is not in there.
[12:17] <un|matrix> Guset88179: nvidia-settings has the option
[12:17] <Guest88179> i need it
[12:18] <puff> It says at the URL you pasted earleir that you have to reinstall wireless after every update.
[12:18] <ziroday> un|matrix: and where is that option?
[12:18] <pronoy> ziroday: then use the screen resolution tab in that rotation..normal or else...
[12:18] <zardosh> ziroday: is it sth like "   sudo apt-get install install the ubuntu-restricted-extras " you mean?
[12:18] <oddicious> puff
[12:18] <puff> oddicious: Okay, so now try sudo dhclient eth0
[12:18] <oddicious> was that directed at me?
[12:18] <oddicious> oh ok
[12:18] <un|matrix> ziroday: it needs to be enabled in xorg.conf
[12:18] <oddicious> hang on ill do that now
[12:18] <FloodBot1> oddicious: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:18] <chotaz> When you're extracting a Tarball what are the zvxf options for?
[12:18] <JessicaParker> hi can anyone assist with wireless with wireless config via command line ?
[12:18] <ziroday> pronoy: you can't, as he is using the propriatery nvidia drivers
[12:18] <puff> oddicious: Yes, that was directed at you, so let's focus on wired first, wireless later.
[12:18] <ziroday> un|matrix: url?
[12:18] <un|matrix> ziroday: Option "RandRRotation" "1"
[12:18] <puff> JessicaParker: Basics I can elp with.
[12:18] <ziroday> zardosh: yes
[12:18] <ziroday> un|matrix: sweet
[12:18] <puff> JessicaParker: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "theessidname"
[12:18] <oddicious> ok
[12:19] <oddicious> its saying alot of stuff now
[12:19] <puff> JessicaParker: sudo iwconfig eth1 channel channenumber
[12:19] <oddicious> dhcpdiscover..
[12:19] <JessicaParker> yes tried all of that
[12:19] <puff> JessicaParker: sudo dhclient eth1
[12:19] <JessicaParker> .#
[12:19] <puff> oddicious: Yeah, if it end iwth "bound to IP address etc" then you're gold.
[12:19] <grawity> chotaz: z = (un-)gzip (usually tar does that automatically when extracting). v = verbose (print filenames to stdout). x = extract. f = use specified file (instead of /dev/rmt0)
[12:19] <pronoy> chotaz: go to terminal issue command man tar
[12:19] <oddicious> puff
[12:19] <oddicious> ok
[12:19] <puff> JessicaParker: And what happened?
[12:19] <lstarnes> chotaz: z = ungzip first; v = verbose (e.g. show files being extracted); x = extract; f = operate on a file instead of a tape device
[12:19]  * grawity wins
[12:19] <pronoy> chotaz: read the rest too..
[12:20] <oddicious> ok
[12:20] <oddicious> it said this
[12:20] <puff> oddicious: Also, you might want to look around and see if there's an irc channel for aspire that might help you troubleshoot this.
[12:20] <thejusticecow> the network manager dosnt support my wiresless internet hardware so i need to download ndiswrapper to fix but i cant perform sudo apt-get install as i have no internet connection in ubuntu.  is there a way for me to download it in windows then install it from my hdd?
[12:20] <oddicious> No DHCPOFFERS recieved .. no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[12:20] <puff> JessicaParker: To clarify, is your wireless working normally using the gnome GUI stuff and you want to learn shell commands.
[12:20] <JessicaParker> puff: last item it says bound to 192.168.1.90
[12:21] <puff> JessicaParker: Then you're online.
[12:21] <JessicaParker> puff: it works sometimes then it does not
[12:21] <puff> JessicaParker: ping google.com
[12:21] <puff> JessicaParker: Well it's wireless, how strong is your singal?
[12:21] <JessicaParker> unknown host
[12:21] <grawity> JessicaParker: ping 4.2.2.2
[12:21] <JessicaParker> i have 2 machines 1 is fine the other is not
[12:22] <chotaz> pronoy,lstarnes,grawity: Thanks a lot ;)
[12:22] <guancc686> how  to  install Realvideo4.0
[12:22] <JessicaParker> puff: destination host unreachable
[12:22] <JessicaParker> where is the main config file for the wireless held and can i edit it ?
[12:22] <pronoy> guancc686: real media player ?
[12:22] <puff> JessicaParker: sudo aptitude install wireless-tools
[12:22] <guancc686> yes
[12:23] <cpscotti> who is 4.2.2.2 ??
[12:23] <puff> JessicaParker: Well, the next time your machine is on the net, install the wireless-tools.
[12:23] <cpscotti> that's like.. the coolest it ever!
[12:23] <cpscotti> i thought those we only for military or something
[12:23] <pronoy> guancc686: go to the real media site...download teh realplayer11gold.bin
[12:23] <JessicaParker> puff: done it via wired connection
[12:23] <pronoy> guancc686: then execute it using terminal
[12:23] <puff> JessicaParker: It's a radio signal, so two mahcine can be sittin side by side and one can be fine and the other not.  Depends n how good their connectons are, etc.
[12:24] <guancc686> oh
[12:24] <JessicaParker> puff: what i really want to do is understand in what file the wireless settings are
[12:24] <puff> Ever been in a stopped car, listeing to radio, and you roll forward a few more feet and the signal gets all crappy, roll forward a few more and it's good?
[12:24] <guancc686> thanks
[12:24] <puff> JessicaParker: In memory.
[12:24] <JessicaParker> puff: i also have an issue where sometimes it seems to connect to wlan0 and sometimes using eth1
[12:24] <puff> JessicaParker: Though there are packages that can help automate each set of settings.
[12:25] <JessicaParker> puff: i would like to swtich one of them off
[12:25] <oddicious> No DHCPOFFERS recieved .. no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[12:25] <oddicious> puff
[12:25] <puff> jschall: You mean it seems to make up its own mind?
[12:25] <Guest94685> irc.freenode.org
[12:25] <puff> JessicaParker: You mean it seems to make up its own mind?
[12:25] <puff> JessicaParker: sudo ifup eth1 and sudo ifdown wlan0
[12:26] <madsj> can anyone help me figure out why installing sun-java6-jdk does not enable the javac-command ?
[12:26] <JessicaParker> puff: and also i get a could not authenticate on my gui wireless settings
[12:26] <pronoy> madsj: you need to set the environment variable
[12:26] <puff> JessicaParker: One thing to be aware of, there are two different sets of commands "sudo ifup eth1" and "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" *seem* to do the same thing, but they actually use different files to keep track of stuff, so if you slip and forget that you used "sudo ifdown wlan0" to shut down wlan0, you'll go crazy trying to figure out why "sudo ifconfig up wlan0" doesn't work.
[12:26] <puff> JessicaParker: Authenticaiton is a different topic :-).
[12:26] <pronoy> madsj: i think you might be getting this...javac can be found in the following packages
[12:27] <puff> oddicious: Sorry, got distracte.d
[12:27] <oddicious> yeah
[12:27] <oddicious> u were helping
[12:27] <oddicious> its cool
[12:27] <madsj> pronoy, I thought that would happen by default; I set the PATH variable to a jvm-directory, but had hoped it wouldn't be necessay; and yes, I did get that "might be found in " message
[12:27] <a-n-d-r-e-a> hi all
[12:28] <a-n-d-r-e-a> is it normale that firefox is not working after the last update?
[12:28] <JessicaParker> puff: on eth1 scanning i get my essid and same as on wlan0
[12:28] <jrib> madsj: it should.  You should need to nothing special other than installing sun-java6-jdk.  Please pastebin « apt-cache policy sun-java6-jdk »
[12:29] <JessicaParker> so iwlist eth1 scanning returns my wireless connection as does iwlist wlan0 scanning
[12:29] <ahmed_> I've a 3 xen machines running ubuntu server and serving rails application I need to balancing load between them, What is the best solution
[12:29] <Guest88179> Is ther any posibility to rotate screan using properiate drivers nvidia ?
[12:29] <puff> JessicaParker: Ohwait, wlan is wireless, I forgot that.  I don't have a wlan. That's odd.
[12:30] <madsj> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m2c57b83f
[12:31] <puff> oddicious: Do you have a third machine to test with? I'd like to plug a machine into that same  network cable and do a dhcp release/renew with it just to be sure.
[12:31] <puff> oddicious: Process of elimination, etc.
[12:31] <jrib> madsj: readlink -f /usr/bin/javac
[12:31] <oddicious> puff
[12:31] <puff> oddicious: But if you don't, we have othier things to try.
[12:31] <oddicious> i have a second ubuntu machine
[12:31] <puff> oddicious: give it a shot.
[12:32] <oddicious> why do u wanna plug the cable into the other machine?
[12:32] <puff> oddicious: Hm, I just rechecked the aspire page and I somehow missed the kernel note before.
[12:32] <oddicious> the cable works fine
[12:32] <oddicious> oh?
[12:32] <puff> oddicious: I want to test the cable and the dhcp server with a separate machine and make sure they work okay.
[12:32] <oddicious> whats it saying?
[12:32] <puff> oddicious:  Becaue it's really trivial to test that way if you have a spare machine and it rules out a lot of possible external causes.
[12:32] <puff> oddicious: Divid and conquer.
[12:32] <oddicious> ok
[12:32] <puff> oddicious: do "sudo uname -r" on the aspire.
[12:33] <oddicious> HANG ON
[12:33] <oddicious> wait
[12:33] <oddicious> back up a second
[12:33] <oddicious> what are we doing.. testing the cable or doing the kernal
[12:33] <fran> helo
[12:33] <oddicious> ?
[12:33] <FloodBot1> oddicious: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:33] <PrebenR> I need to run rmmod psmouse and modprobe psmouse (to disable touchpad until there is another way). How can I do this without having to type root password each time?
[12:33] <puff> oddicious: Do uname -r first.
[12:33] <puff> oddicious: Should be faster to do that.
[12:33] <oddicious> on the acer?
[12:33] <Guest52725> puff
[12:33] <oddicious> ok
[12:33] <puff> oddicious:  But then go ahead and test the cable.
[12:33] <Guest52725> joder
[12:33] <puff> oddicious:  On the aspire, yah.  also, what exact model of aspire is it?
[12:33] <madsj> jrib, returns nothing; PATH=/usr/lib/jvm/.../bin, but that's only for a current bash-session
[12:33] <jrib> PrebenR: when do you need to do that?
[12:33] <Guest52725> jder
[12:33] <Guest52725> jder
[12:33] <Guest52725> jde
[12:33] <FloodBot1> Guest52725: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:34] <PrebenR> jrib, when I type on my laptop I don't want the touchpad on
[12:34] <oddicious> 2.6.27.11-generic
[12:34] <ericrw> I have a box still running Feisty and I need a working repository for it.  Suggestions? and *yes* I will upgrade it, but not *right this minute* ;-)
[12:34] <jrib> PrebenR: you can have it automatically turn off
[12:34] <jrib> !synaptics > PrebenR
[12:34] <PrebenR> jrib, because if you happen to touch the touchpad with your thumb it messes up everythin
[12:34] <jrib> PrebenR: synclient something_or_other (see ubottu )
[12:35] <puff> oddicious: Okay, the new info on the page says that kernel 2.6.27-11 definitely breaks wired connection.
[12:35] <oddicious> really?
[12:35] <puff> New to me, at least.
[12:35] <puff> Yeah.
[12:35] <PrebenR> jrib, hmm if it works on Asus 1000h
[12:35] <PrebenR> jrib, I'll try
[12:35] <puff> Note Kernel 2.6.27-11 breaks the wired ethernet interface. Bug 313866 has been verified: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/313866
[12:35] <PrebenR> jrib, didn't work on 901
[12:35] <jrib> madsj: /usr/bin/javac does not exist?  Are you positive?  'ls /usr/bin/javac' returns an error?
[12:35] <oddicious> wow
[12:35] <oddicious> thats mad
[12:36] <jrib> PrebenR: you need to enable shmconfig iirc
[12:36] <oddicious> it says WIRELESS is not affected
[12:36] <oddicious> but mine is
[12:36] <madsj> jrib, it does exist
[12:36] <PrebenR> jrib, yes and it didnt' work on the eee 901
[12:36] <ericrw> nevermind found it -- old-releases.ubuntu.com.  Thanks? ;-)
[12:37] <jrib> madsj: ok.  sudo update-java-alternatives -l
[12:37] <puff> oddicious: Look at the next paragraph down about wireless.
[12:37] <Cruelty> Hrm
[12:37] <madsj> jrib: [mads @ spirou:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun] $ readlink -m /usr/bin/javac
[12:37] <madsj> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac
[12:37] <PrebenR> jrib, no go
[12:37] <PrebenR> jrib, shm problem
[12:37] <methanigai> i have problem with squid for giving ﻿ permission to a particular person to particular site
[12:38] <jrib> PrebenR: well what exactly did you do?
[12:38] <PrebenR> jrib, synclient TouchpadOff=1
[12:38] <methanigai> my squid.conf file has as follows
[12:38] <jrib> PrebenR: and what did it tell you...?
[12:38] <PrebenR> jrib, error message was cannot access shm ...
[12:38] <jrib> PrebenR: and so you tried to enable shmconfig...?
[12:38] <methanigai> acl our_networks src 192.168.1.0/24 acl ceo src 192.168.1.8 acl normal_users src  192.168.1.59 192.168.1.60 192.168.1.61 192.168.1.62 acl allowedsites url_regex -i "/etc/squid/allowedsites.txt" http_access allow ceo allowed_sites http_access deny !normal_users http_access allow localhost http_access deny all  Please point me where I did mistake?
[12:38] <Cruelty> I can't install python-qt4-dev ... python-sip4-dev must be installed first... So I want to install python-sip4-dev but it say it depends on python-dev... I wanted to install python-dev but it said it depends on python-sip4-dev
[12:38] <Cruelty> :-/
[12:39] <Cruelty> Anyone got a clue?
[12:39] <lstarnes> Cruelty: try installing python-dev and python-sip4-dev at the same time
[12:39] <oddicious> puff
[12:39] <oddicious> i dont see what it says
[12:39] <PrebenR> jrib, no
[12:39] <jrib> PrebenR: isn't that the first step on the link I gave you?
[12:39] <Cruelty> lstarnes: Does not work... I cant select it in Synaptic and even with apt-get it does not work
[12:39] <PrebenR> jrib, tried last time with 901 and after much messing with xorg I find out it wasn't possible
[12:40] <jrib> PrebenR: there's nothing to be messed about with xorg
[12:40] <lstarnes> Cruelty: "sudo apt-get install python-sip4-dev python-dev" fails?
[12:40] <puff> oddicious: Says there hvae been problems with wireless resuming from suspsend and that there are workarounds.
[12:40] <jrib> madsj: did you see my last command?
[12:40] <oddicious> hmm
[12:41] <oddicious> are the workarounds on that page?
[12:41] <oddicious> cuz i didnt see any
[12:41] <oddicious> unless im blind
[12:41] <Cruelty> It sais it depends on python2.5-dev
[12:41] <Cruelty> So lets try
[12:41] <PrebenR> jrib, This is done by enabling SHMConfig "on" in the X server Synaptics touchpad configuration. With this enabled, these tools can modify the run-time configuration of the touchpad input driver without restarting the X server.
[12:41] <cousteau> what is /etc/readahead/desktop?
[12:41] <PrebenR> jrib, where is this config?
[12:41] <jrib> oddicious: you must be doing something strange.   Are you installing packages outside the official repositories?
[12:42] <PrebenR> jrib, is it this: gksudo gedit /etc/hal/fdi/policy/shmconfig.fdi
[12:42] <madsj> jrib: "readlink -f /usr/bin/javac" returns nothing
[12:42] <Cruelty> python2.5-dev: Depends on: python2.5 (= 2.5.2-2ubuntu4.1) but 2.5.2-2ubuntu5 will not be installed (Translated)
[12:42] <cousteau> and is there a way to "profile" it?
[12:42] <jrib> PrebenR: read the "Enabling SHMConfig" section in ubottu's link.  yes
[12:42] <chazco> Hi... can anyone suggest a good DVB-T viewer that doesnt require initial scan data (or the kde-libs)?
[12:42] <jrib> madsj: after that, sudo update-java-alternatives -l
[12:42] <lstarnes> Cruelty: try installing python2.5
[12:42] <puff> oddicious: Yeh, I'm not sure where the workaround is.
[12:42] <PrebenR> jrib, yes I read it, but it was not clear
[12:42] <hemanth> lstarnes, i have scrwed up the whole thinge
[12:42] <Cruelty> Does not work.
[12:42] <PrebenR> jrib, didn't know if I was supposed to do dpkg-reconfigure
[12:42] <jrib> PrebenR: what is the first sentence that is not clear to you?
[12:42] <hemanth> lstarnes, thank god i did it on vbox :)
[12:43] <Cruelty> python2.5 ist schon die neueste Version.
[12:43] <jrib> PrebenR: you don't.  Where are you reading that?
[12:43] <Cruelty> Is already the newest version
[12:43] <PrebenR> jrib, This is done by enabling SHMConfig "on" in the X server Synaptics touchpad configuration.
[12:43] <Cruelty> sorry
[12:43] <lstarnes> hemanth: that's why I use vms
[12:43] <Cruelty> So it is installed.. :-/
[12:43] <jrib> PrebenR: ignore that sentence then.   It is just describing what the directions are about to do
[12:43] <madsj> jrib, just did that
[12:43] <chotaz> How can I take advantage of my 4GB of ram in Ubuntu 8.10 32b?
[12:43] <hemanth> lstarnes,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3L8sLbfCPs&feature=related
[12:43] <Cruelty> But apt-get seem to don't find it.
[12:43] <jrib> madsj: what did it give you as output?
[12:43] <hemanth> lstarnes, he says only 2 steps
[12:43] <PrebenR> jrib, I see. I was confused as the config settings seems to be about HAL
[12:43] <mrwes> chotaz, install the 64 bit :)
[12:43] <hemanth> lstarnes, i was like hmmm !!
[12:43] <PrebenR> ok I'll try it
[12:44] <chotaz> mrwes: Too much sound compatibility problems here.
[12:44] <madsj> jrib: still nothing
[12:44] <jrib> ChotaZ: you should just use 64bit imo
[12:44] <puff> jrib: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne and search for "Kernel 2.6.27-11 breaks the wired ethernet interface"
[12:44] <jrib> madsj: right, that command just gives information (did it not give you any output)?
[12:45] <mrwes> chotaz, well then you're stuck with the RAM limitations of 32b
[12:45] <puff> jrib: Except oddicious is also expereicing disappearing wireless, which kinda leaves him stuck...
[12:45] <chotaz> mrwes: really, no way around it? well thanks then ;) I'll switch to 64b as soon as TS3 comes out.
[12:45] <Lint01> where can I can an Epson printer driver for Ubuntu I?
[12:45] <puff> oddicious: The good news is, if they know that it was specifaically that kernel that caused the problem, there should soon be a kernel update fix fo rit.
[12:45] <madsj> readlink -f /usr/bin/javac yielded no result, after running "sudo update-java...."
[12:45] <hemanth> lstarnes, me fed up :(
[12:46] <madsj> update-java did give me some data
[12:46] <jrib> ChotaZ: well the server kernel has PAE enabled, but the desktop one does not
[12:46] <jrib> madsj: what is the output of « sudo update-java-alternatives -l »?
[12:46] <puff> oddicious:  Or you can rever to the kernel before hand which is a lot easier thantrying to revert *all* of your updates.
[12:46] <PrebenR> jrib, other question very fast. to dissable /enable wifi I need to echo 1 or 0 to a state file in /sys. but this is only writable to root. would it be ok to make it also writable to a group and I put the users in this group?
[12:47] <puff> Is there any way to get ubuntu-on-flashd-rive to automatically start on bot?
[12:47] <jrib> PrebenR: there must be a better way to do that....  It should be ok if it already has no special group associated to it I suppose
[12:48] <puff> Er, automatically select the "try without installing" option on startup?
[12:48] <tess> does anyone have any experience using the equivalent of Microsoft silverlight? I think its called moonlight?
[12:48] <puff> oddicious: To get the new kernel you'll need to get the kernel package onto the aspire, which if you don't get some form networking working, means using a usb key.
[12:49] <ma3x> what's the stable/testing/unstable version of ubuntu called
[12:49] <puff> oddicious: Okay, it's 8am and I've been up all night... I need to take a little nap.
[12:49] <jrib> !jaunty | ma3x
[12:49] <PrebenR> jrib, probably there should be one, but for the moment it doesn't seem to be
[12:49] <ma3x> is jaunty the stable?
[12:50] <ma3x> do you have kde4 in jaunty
[12:50] <PrebenR> jrib, now the file is own by root.root
[12:50] <puff> maxb: The "due april 23rd 2009" might be a clue about that.
[12:50] <jrib> madsj: #ubuntu+1 for support with jaunty.  Jaunty is in development
[12:50] <puff> max3: Ubuntu releases like clockwork every six months, so at any given time it's pretty clear which one is the current version.
[12:50] <jrib> erm, s/madsj/ma3x
[12:51] <ma3x> so what's the stable one called?
[12:51] <jrib> ma3x: the last stable release is intrepid
[12:51] <PrebenR> jrib, ah thanks!!! now the synclient finally worked. this x server config totally threw me off course last time
[12:51] <ma3x> is kde4 in interpid?
[12:51] <jrib> !kde4 | ma3x
[12:52] <PrebenR> jrib, I'll make a group for the state for now and change it later when the eee support is working better
[12:52] <puff> maxb: Go to ubuntu.com.  Click "get ubuntu" in the left-margin menu.  On the resulting page, Click "Download now" in the center of the page.
[12:53] <puff> ma3x: Go to ubuntu.com.  Click "get ubuntu" in the left-margin menu.  On the resulting page, Click "Download now" in the center of the page.  On the third page, in the center, it will say "choose a version" and explain what the current version is, etc.
[12:53] <oddicious> puff
[12:53] <oddicious> thanks for all your help
[12:53] <puff> By the way, am I the only one who thinks that it is a little unobvious to figure that out?
[12:54] <jrib> puff: you can file a bug against the web page if you wish
[12:54] <madsj> jrib, java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[12:54] <madsj> java-gcj 1042 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj
[12:54] <puff> I mean, it's not rocket science, but should it be that hard for Joe Newbie to go to ubuntu.com and see what the current verison is?
[12:54] <jrib> madsj: sudo update-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[12:54] <ma3x> puff: but kde4 is not yet officially in ubuntu
[12:54] <oddicious> puff i have to download the latest kernal or use 2.6.27-10 cuz i have 11 on the acer
[12:55] <puff> oddicious: Yeah.
[12:55] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hey guys
[12:55] <ohletmeinnowjesu> if i have a question about the "who" command, who do i talk to?
[12:56] <ohletmeinnowjesu> the bash folk say its not a bash topic
[12:56] <oddicious> http://www.softpedia.com/get/UNIX/Distributions/Linux-Kernel.shtml
[12:56] <oddicious> this?
[12:56] <jrib> ohletmeinnowjesu: just ask your question
[12:57] <harlemdavvey> hello everyone! do you know some GREAT programs that work wonders, in alternative to Frostwire?
[12:57] <lesshaste> what;'s the best way to choose a local ubuntu archive?
[12:57] <PrebenR> jrib, doesn't work. Not allowed to write even if group is set to adm and write enabled
[12:57] <Zedde> why don't this work ?  iptables -N forward -p udp -s 172.16.71.0/24 -d 192.168.xx.xx
[12:57] <lesshaste> to put in sources.list
[12:57] <ynk> where am I supposed to install the themes/icons/window borders/etc that I've saved from art.gnome.org?
[12:57] <PrebenR> jrib, strange but I guess it is something else going on
[12:57] <jrib> PrebenR: k, find the better way then? :)
[12:57] <puff> Arright, nappy nap fo rme.  Backin 30.
[12:57] <ohletmeinnowjesu> jrib: what does the "line" column in the output of a "who" invocation signify/
[12:57] <harlemdavvey> ynk: in your settings panel
[12:58] <PrebenR> jrib, yes, but after googling all yesterday I haven't. Most important for me is to turn off the wireless at the moment
[12:58] <jrib> ohletmeinnowjesu: I don't know what you mean by "line" column
[12:58] <harlemdavvey> guys, what p2p programs work wonders for you in alternative to Frostwire??
[12:58] <PrebenR> jrib, I guess runing a script as root on startup to do it is best solution for now
[12:58] <mrwes> harlemdavvey, use Deluge or Transmissin for torrents
[12:59] <madsj> jrib, -s is not working
[12:59] <ynk> harlemdavvey, I went to the settings panel and I could not see them. was I not supposed to extract them?
[12:59] <jrib> PrebenR: maybe.  You might try some forums focused on the eee as I'm sure everyone there would know how
[12:59] <jrib> !doesn't work | madsj
[12:59] <harlemdavvey> i use Transmission yet but  i mean an alternative to Frostwire, so a direct connection program
[12:59] <madsj> the flag -s is not present
[12:59] <harlemdavvey> ynk: ok... when you're there, click on appearance
[13:00] <hemanth> lstarnes, http://sourcelinux.wikidot.com/kernel-compilation-in-ubuntu is this fine , or do u have anyother better method
[13:00] <harlemdavvey> ynk: and you're done
[13:00] <jrib> madsj: pastebin the command you ran and the output
[13:00] <dlns> hi
[13:00] <trask1> grr how do i IDENTIFY, cant remember the command to change nick /nick <nickname> doesnt seem to do it
[13:00] <jrib> !register | trask1
[13:01] <Aizawa> Guys, I just installed the teamspeak server (sudo apt-get install teamspeak-server), but it didn't create a passwords file (/etc/teamspeak-server/passwords), what should I do? I can't configure the server..
[13:01] <ynk> harlemdavvey, i'm not sure you understood the nature of my question. i know how to change themes and what not. but installing it is a bit different. for one, i don't even know WHERE i'm supposed to put the themes i saved. lol
[13:01] <jrib> Aizawa: I know nothing about it but have you tried creating the file yourself?
[13:02] <Aizawa> Well, the file is just there to show you what passwords that were automatically generated, so making one myself is sort of pointless.
[13:02] <ynk> i didn't save theme packages. that would probably have been easier. i just have random window borders, random single themes, icons..
[13:02] <madsj> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m5d8d5b4d
[13:02] <harlemdavvey> ynk: sorry. then, when you're on the appearance box, just drag and drop the file you saved from gnome art
[13:02] <ynk> oooh, i see.
[13:02] <ynk> harlemdavvey, you are the man!
[13:02] <jrib> madsj: my mistake: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[13:03] <harlemdavvey> ynk: ;)
[13:03] <trask1> thank you ubottu and jrib, i didnt remember wrong, must be an error or im expired or something
[13:03] <harlemdavvey> ynk: oh another thing..
[13:03] <dlns> i have a problem with acpi events: dmesg tells me "thinkpad_acpi: unknown LID-related HKEY event: 0x5009" though i have defined a rule for it in /etc/acpi/events. the rule does not trigger the program, whysoever. any ideas?
[13:03] <Zedde> Hmmm missed my question ?
[13:03] <harlemdavvey> ynk: if something goes wrong with the drag and drop, try changing the format of the folder your themes are compressed in, ok?
[13:03] <jrib> !helpme | Zedde
[13:04] <harlemdavvey> ynk: for exemple.. .tar , .tar.bz , .tar.gz
[13:04] <harlemdavvey> ynk: do you know some alternative program to Frostwire?
[13:04] <Zedde> jrib: I didn't do that
[13:04] <ynk> harlemdavvey, actually i've already taken the liberty of extracting 'em.
[13:04] <Zedde> why don't this work ?  iptables -N forward -p udp -s 172.16.71.0/24 -d 192.168.xx.xx
[13:04] <harlemdavvey> ynk oh ok
[13:04] <ynk> harlemdavvey, quite honestly i have never heard of frostwire. i use edonkey myself.
[13:05] <kandinski> hi
[13:05] <harlemdavvey> ynk: is it quite fast?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> !frostwire
[13:05] <ohletmeinnowjesu> jrib: there are 4 columns in a table format when the who command is invoked; LINE is one of them
[13:05] <ohletmeinnowjesu> NAME     LINE         TIME             COMMENT
[13:05] <ynk> it is.
[13:05] <ynk> harlemdavvey, definetely is.
[13:05] <jrib> Zedde: basically, most people are not going to scroll up to look at your question.  So if no one has answered, just repeat it after 10 minutes or so
[13:05] <harlemdavvey> ynk: ok, thank you very much for your help:)
[13:06] <kandinski> Ubuntu Intrepid on Intel amd64 here. I want to capture DV but Kino gives an error: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read-write -dev-raw1394!
[13:06] <Zedde> jrib: okay,  I don't flood the channel, 10 min it fair time
[13:06] <Alive> Greetings.
[13:06] <Zedde> I don't like to
[13:06] <DarK`N> hello
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: lsmod | grep raw
[13:06]  * grawity greets DarK`N
[13:06] <Alive> :)
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: if its not there run: sudo modprobe raw1394
[13:07] <soussou_> hi
[13:07] <PrebenR> jrib, thansk
[13:07] <jrib> Zedde: you might try the #iptables channel though and explain what exactly isn't working (do you get output/errors etc.)
[13:07] <Zedde> jrib: bah is there a channel for every command  :)
[13:07] <Zedde> jrib: thanks
[13:07] <soussou_> Please can someone help me?? i want to know how to compile with LLVM compiler??
[13:07] <puff> Okay, no nap for me.... anybody understand how to setup static IPs
[13:08] <puff> ?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> puff: you can edit /etc/network/interfaces
[13:08] <kandinski> Action Parsnip, raw1394 is there for sure
[13:08] <puff> ActionParsnip: I did, but when I rebooted the thumb drive, /etc/network/interfaces was back to what it had been.
[13:09] <puff> One page I came across said you need to apt-remove dhcp-client, is this corret?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> puff: you could chmod it 555 to make it read only
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> puff: if you have zero need for dhcp then you could
[13:10] <Alive> I am using a bluetooth dongle to connect to my cellphone to use it as a modem. All is well under Ubuntu. Got it set up long ago. But now I sometimes have to use the same setup under windows XP. If I have my phone paired with the dongle under Ubuntu then I must first delete the paring from my phone and reset it up under windows XP, then if I boot up back to Ubuntu I must delete the paring again else it just does not work. Is there a way around this ?So I don
[13:10] <Alive> 't have to delete it everytime ?
[13:10] <puff> ActionParsnip: I'd rather not.
[13:11] <duvld> puff: I have had a situation in the past where whatever dhcp client came with an OS didn't work with my wireless router, I had to install "dhcpcd", a more popular one
[13:11] <duvld> puff: but that'd be a last resort
[13:11]  * elfgoh wonders if anyone would be interested in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[13:12] <puff> ah-hah: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-address-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[13:12] <davidt> Hey, is there a way to run a script upon connecting to a specific wireless network, using Network Manager?
[13:12] <puff> Does that look sane?
[13:12] <davidt> (I know Wicd can do it, but just installed 9.04 Beta, and wanted to give Network Manager a try before I remove it)
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> elfgoh: nice
[13:13] <puff> davidt: Using network manager, idaknow, but there's a package specifically for that sort of thing IRRC.
[13:13] <razius> i just updated to jaunty and firefox and pidgin keep hanging and eating cpu
[13:13] <elfgoh> ActionParsnip: there's a page on launchpad already... but nothing moving yet: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/
[13:14] <baldur> join #gnome-do
[13:14] <noren> !jaunty | razius
[13:14] <razius> yes i know it's in beta
[13:14] <baldur> I tried the Ubuntu Beta and it worked great
[13:15] <duvld> Xubuntu beta works great
[13:16] <puff> Hm, wicd.
[13:17] <West-Star> baldur:  is ubuntu beta faster ?
[13:18] <goose> yes
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> elfgoh: just install lxde for now, theres a few releases like that
[13:18] <goose> hello no can activate effects in ubuntu 9.04 beta any help plz
[13:19] <dlns> i have an acpi event that is triggered but seems to be not catched by the event procedure in /etc/acpi/events... any ideas? (sorry for repetition)
[13:19] <bazhang> goose, #ubuntu+1 for that
[13:19] <elfgoh> ActionParsnip: well actually I think the plan is to have an ubuntu LXDE derivative: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=208
[13:19] <deostroll> Hi. I just requested for an ubuntu cd. I will be getting an 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) release. Is this stable? I've heard of ubuntu 10.0 released...!
[13:20] <rabby_> why does ubuntu tell me with my shell script:  /dev/stdin: No such file or directory
[13:20] <methanigai> I am unable to allow a particular site to a particular person.
[13:20] <duvld> 8.10 is stable, 9.04 is beta
[13:20] <methanigai> in squid
[13:20] <West-Star> deostroll:  unless its 8.10 beta or some thing ..
[13:20] <methanigai> For example, ceo is unable to access mail-sites since it is already blocked by squidGurad.
[13:21] <methanigai> The ceo user can browse other sites . But not gmail,eventhough I have allowed gmail.com  in /etc/squid/allowedsites.txt with proper permissions.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> elfgoh: maybe but lxde is gtk based so there isnt much pain in installing lxde on ubuntu
[13:21] <deostroll> whats the latest?
[13:21] <methanigai> acl our_networks src 192.168.1.0/24
[13:22] <dlns> deostroll: latest stable is 8.10
[13:22] <methanigai> acl ceo src 192.168.1.8
[13:22] <methanigai> acl normal_users src  192.168.1.59 192.168.1.60 192.168.1.61 192.168.1.62
[13:22] <methanigai> acl allowedsites url_regex -i "/etc/squid/allowedsites.txt"
[13:22] <elfgoh> ActionParsnip: yes agreed. i run LXDE on mini.iso install. Works nice and light. But still, some pple might wnat to have an LXDE variant... juz like  xubuntu
[13:23] <methanigai> http_access allow ceo allowed_sites
[13:23] <deostroll> dlns, thanx. I juz wanted to b sure...
[13:23] <methanigai> http_access deny !normal_users
[13:23] <methanigai> http_access allow localhost
[13:23] <methanigai> http_access deny all
[13:23] <methanigai> Please point me where I did mistake?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> elfgoh: true, or fluxbuntu
[13:24] <antti> I installed 8.10 on this laptop, everything ok but I get no sound. 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[13:24] <duvld> elfgoh: I think there will be a lxde varient soon if not already, don't know if it will be suppored, lxde's only been around about 2 years
[13:24] <elfgoh> ActionParsnip: afaik, the current Lubuntu project has official backing from the LXDE foundation
[13:25] <epiro> hi!
[13:25] <epiro> i just installed xubuntu
[13:25] <epiro> and i need some help
[13:25] <epiro> !
[13:25] <elfgoh> duvld: According to the LXDE blog post, it seems likely
[13:26] <epiro> my problem is that the menu just disappreed after second time i started it...
[13:26] <duvld> elfgoh: i'd give it a try, I tried the new knoppix using lxde and it's very nice
[13:26] <epiro> can anybody help me?
[13:27] <elfgoh> duvld: i haven't had time to try knoppix but i think LXDE on Knoppix should make it very much faster compared to the previous KDE versions.
[13:27] <davidt> puff: Do you happen to know the name of that package?
[13:27] <duvld> epiro: I don't have xubuntu, but there should be a way to copy .config file stored for root user, which should be untouched.... well, usually ubuntu doesnt make root user dono if u have
[13:28] <puff> davidt: Which package?
[13:28] <puff> davidt: Oh, the wireless oe.
[13:28] <kandinski> for a DTV video receiver, which is the default tv capture device (/dev/video0 does not work for me)
[13:28] <duvld> epiro: thats probably not any help sry lol
[13:28] <davidt> puff: yeah
[13:28] <chotaz> What is the best way to customize you Ubuntu? Visual-side-
[13:28] <wolfwalker> Now I feel stupid that I have to ask such a basic question.........
[13:29] <wolfwalker> How do you set a program to automatically run on startup?
[13:29] <chotaz> Sistem->Preferences-Sessions
[13:29] <epiro> wow, okay...how do i access this root thing?
[13:29] <chotaz> wolfwalker: Sistem->Preferences->Sessions
[13:29] <elfgoh> duvld: I think the nice thing about LXDE is that it is really light... though there are still some rough edges
[13:29] <swtos> hi
[13:29] <wolfwalker> Thankee
[13:29] <epiro> from where can i get help?
[13:30] <swtos> how can i can i set my resolution to 1280x1024 on boot up ?
[13:30] <chotaz> What is the best way to customize ubuntu visually?
[13:30] <mrwes> !sudo epiro
[13:30] <floryn> hi all
[13:30] <chotaz> swtos: System->Preferences->Resolutions
[13:30] <rabby_> where do i have to add a symlink to if i want my script to be accessable for each user without knowing its absolute path?
[13:30] <mrwes> !gksu
[13:30] <chotaz> !sudo | epiro
[13:30] <duvld> elfgoh: 30MB desktop environment, very light lol, like a fraction of xfce, and they use openbox which is good choice
[13:30] <epiro> david . also even if i restore the first root reset settings, it's not sure that it wont happen again!
[13:30] <elfgoh> chotaz: customize after it is installed?
[13:31] <mrwes> ahh..duh
[13:31] <chotaz> yehs
[13:31] <chotaz> !tab yes
[13:31] <swtos> i hace crunchbang
[13:31] <swtos> have*
[13:31] <floryn> my system not starting in GUI mode,it start in shell mode.
[13:31] <floryn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/140095/plain/
[13:31] <epiro> yeah...i installed xubuntu which has a menu bar above and below the desktop!
[13:31] <elfgoh> chotaz: I guess you can change the background for starters
[13:31] <swtos> floryn,  startx :D
[13:31] <chotaz> elfgoh: Did :P
[13:31] <puff> davidt: laptop-netconf.
[13:32] <dlns> does anybody have experience with acpi events on ibm thinkpads and can help me with some issues?
[13:32] <epiro> then after the second restart the menus just disapperead so now it's very difficult to navigave xubuntu!
[13:32] <swtos> chotaz,  how can i do it from a terminal?
[13:32] <floryn> swtos,startx command?
[13:32] <duvld> epiro: can u add "xfce menu" applet to panel?
[13:32] <swtos> yes
[13:32] <chotaz> swtos: Sorry, I dont know.
[13:32] <swtos> kk :D
[13:32] <floryn> swtos,did you saw pastebin?
[13:32] <epiro> duv - it says it's already added, but nothing is actually appearing!
[13:33] <elfgoh> duvld: Lame joke coming... xfce may be free of cholesterol.. but it still has plenty of Fats left :p
[13:33] <floryn> swtos,i get some error there
[13:33] <chotaz> swtos: This might come handy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1084365
[13:33] <kandinski> I am installing a DVB usb card for the first time, and tvtime says that /dev/video0 (where the old analog PCI card was) cannot be opened, no such device etc. Fair enough, however I can't get tvtime to recognise the DVB card. Could you please help me fix this?
[13:33] <kandinski> for what it's worth, this is on Ubuntu Intrepid amd64
[13:33] <floryn> swtos,http://paste.ubuntu.com/140097/plain/
[13:33] <epiro> duv - i've removed them and added them again, but it still doesn't work!
[13:33] <duvld> epiro: sry not using Xu atm i dono what else to try :(
[13:34] <swtos> floryn, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[13:34] <epiro> ahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is why everybody uses windows!
[13:34] <floryn> swtos,ok
[13:34] <chotaz> epiro, people use windows because it's jsut easier, but it's in no way better...
[13:35] <davidt> puff: laptop-netconf has no installation candidate
[13:35] <ynk> How do I change my splash screen? I've finally gotten the hang of screwing around with my appearance.. now how to change the splash?
[13:35] <chotaz> swtos: did it work?
[13:35] <floryn> swtos,http://paste.ubuntu.com/140099/plain/
[13:35] <langzi> hello
[13:35] <floryn> swtos,thank you fpr help
[13:35] <floryn> swtos,default was kdm
[13:37] <swtos> :D
[13:37] <n2diy> spiro, did you drag the applet to the task bar? Clicking add won't do it.
[13:37] <s3r3n1t7> !splash | ynk
[13:37] <epiro> n2diy - why do i do that?
[13:37] <epiro> n2diy - HOW do I do that?
[13:37] <ilaiho> hi!
[13:37] <epiro> chotaz - offcourse...people haven't got time for all this...
[13:37] <swtos> chotaz,  i dont know how to set it up on boot i can change my resolution right now but the problem is when i make a restart it change back to 1024 :/
[13:37] <ynk> s3r3n1t7, thanks. ;D
[13:37] <n2diy> spiro, left click, and hold, on the applet, and drag it to the task bar.
[13:37] <madsj> jrib, thanks :-)
[13:37] <ilaiho> this bug is fixed in debian testing and unstable: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktechlab/+bug/115416
[13:38] <chotaz> swtos: Sorry, I've only been using ubuntu for 2 days now, that's as far I can help you. but h/o i'll search around ;)
[13:38] <epiro> n2diy - which one is the applet?
[13:38] <ilaiho> any idea if it will be fixed in 9.04?
[13:38] <rachid> salut ts le monde
[13:38] <swtos> chotaz, okz ty  anyway :D
[13:38] <gearsecond> how can i get the gelly efects in the windows
[13:38] <duvld> epiro: an applet is any item on a panel
[13:38] <gearsecond> ?
[13:38] <gearsecond> in xubuntu
[13:39] <ChrisHerlein> Hello
[13:39] <rachid> hello
[13:39] <duvld> epiro: clock, menu
[13:39] <unknown_> Hello Guys, anyone know why when I'm trying to run java applet in firefox, then cpu utilizations goes up to about 50%, but in opera the problem doesn't exist?
[13:39] <epiro> yes, xubuntu uses xfce desktop
[13:39] <epiro> !
[13:39] <ynk> !gnome-splashscreen-manager
[13:39] <chotaz> swtos: Widescreen?
[13:39] <unknown_> my system is ubuntu 9.04
[13:39] <unknown_> amd64
[13:39] <n2diy> spiro, I thought you were trying to add the Xcfe menu to the task bar?
[13:39] <chotaz> swtos: Nvidia Card?
[13:40] <gearsecond> can antbody tell mehow to get gelly efects of the windows
[13:40] <ChrisHerlein> jajaja ubottu
[13:40] <gearsecond> ?
[13:40] <gearsecond> eoooo
[13:40] <epiro> duvld - yes! I only have: file system, home and wastebasket icons on my desktop...everything else just dissapeared? now where shall draw these icons?
[13:40] <platius> unknown_;  #ubuntu+1 is the 9.04 channel
[13:40] <s3r3n1t7> gearsecond, get compiz working. Then enable the wobbly windows.
[13:41] <gearsecond> how can i make  work compiz?
[13:41] <Treybuchet> !lol
[13:41] <epiro> n2diy - no, i am trying to restore my menu bars!
[13:41] <gearsecond> in xubutu
[13:41] <unknown_> platius: thanks
[13:41] <Treybuchet> !bot
[13:41] <Treybuchet> !hi
[13:41] <Treybuchet> !help
[13:41] <Treybuchet> !thetime
[13:41] <Treybuchet> !time
[13:41] <bah> It is now Sunday March 29 2009 08:41:36 AM UTC-4 (EDT). (24 hour time is 08:41:36). 1238330496 seconds since 00:00:00 UTC, January 1, 1970. (Not counting leap seconds.)
[13:41] <n2diy> spiro, the bars are gone too!?
[13:42] <vjacob> what's the console package manager called?
[13:42] <ChrisHerlein> Kick to ubottu!! :P
[13:42] <ako> hi
[13:42] <rachid> hi
[13:42] <s3r3n1t7> !apt | vjacob
[13:42] <gearsecond> how i can i get work compiz?
[13:42] <ortsvorsteher> i have running ubuntu 8.10 on an toshiba laptop with an realtek rtl 8139 nic. this card doesnt want to run. how can i configure it?
[13:42] <epiro> n2diy - i don't know...they just disappeared! I am looking at the desktop preferences, but it says it's there! I can't see them!
[13:42] <butze> j/ #f-spot
[13:42] <floryn> swtos,do you think i have a chance to install modem usb 330 on ubuntu 8.10?
[13:43] <n2diy> vjacob: aptitude
[13:43] <gearsecond> dfasdhehsfjsdfj
[13:43] <vjacob> s3r, that's the package tool, I'm looking for something like a package manager where you select the packages before install
[13:43] <Veratyr9> running 8.10, how do i upgrade to 9.04
[13:43] <vjacob> n2diy: thanks
[13:43] <gearsecond> can anybody help me?
[13:43] <floryn> swtos,for 8.04 version i ad some prgrams but no update for ubuntu 8.10
[13:43] <ChrisHerlein> Che, alguien habla español :/
[13:43] <gearsecond> how can i get work compiz i xubuntu
[13:43] <Veratyr9> !spanish
[13:43] <Ned__> hello I'm new to ubuntu and virtual machine. I installed virtualbox and I wanted to know how I can get it to appear in Applications?
[13:43] <n2diy> spiro, ok, in Ubuntu I would try sudo gnome-panel restart, not sure what it would be in Xubuntu?
[13:43] <m1dlg> i have a b;lack screen after crashing something, can't reboot for several hours as I am moving a lot of folders about. I started startx when I was presented with a text screen, but the hdd's were still flashing so i knew the cping was working buit I can't see anything. is there a way forme to vnc the screen?
[13:43] <epiro> n2diy - you can edit the menu, but it says all the tasks is there, but i can't see anything!
[13:43] <ChrisHerlein> Jejeeje
[13:43] <gearsecond> yo hablo en espanyol pero no soy ningun experto D
[13:44] <gearsecond> xD
[13:44] <ChrisHerlein> Ok, bye...
[13:44] <ortsvorsteher> gearsecond: first install compiz. type in an terminal "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[13:44] <ChrisHerlein> Voy a los canales ubuntu-es
[13:44] <Veratyr9> snakker norsk?
[13:44] <gearsecond> then
[13:44] <ortsvorsteher> !who gearsecond
[13:44] <ortsvorsteher> !who | gearsecond
[13:44] <epiro> n2diy - ok, i'll try to access in Gnome! getting real tired of using this op...
[13:44] <duvld> epiro: have u right clicked blank area on the panel an there should be a "add applet, or whatever XFCE calls item"
[13:44] <StR|Sangreal> hi; pls if i have removed my windoze from boot options, what shall i do to add it back there?
[13:44] <ortsvorsteher> !nw
[13:45] <m1dlg> i have a b;lack screen after crashing something, can't reboot for several hours as I am moving a lot of folders about. I started startx when I was presented with a text screen, but the hdd's were still flashing so i knew the cping was working buit I can't see anything. is there a way forme to vnc the screen?
[13:45] <ortsvorsteher> i have running ubuntu 8.10 on an toshiba laptop with an realtek rtl 8139 nic. this card doesnt want to run. how can i configure it?
[13:45] <ChrisHerlein> :S There isn ubuntu-es chanel on my list :S
[13:46] <epiro> duvld - you don't understand! there isn't any panel to start with!
[13:46] <dlns> my external usb harddisk is not recognized on my two hardy machines. it works with intrepid and windows, but when plugging in hardy keeps telling me "new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address" and does nothing. any ideas?
[13:46] <TrX>  Hi all, anyone know about ISC DHCP Server? I'm looking to impliment it with a LDAP backend for config and shared leases. There are patches around for older versions (3.0's etc) however nothing newer, and some sites say the patches are no longer needed, however there is nowhere that says LDAP support is now a builtin feature. A little confused on where to go on this one, any info?
[13:46] <winsharp> hi
[13:46] <epiro> duvld - my whole desktop is empty beside 3 icons...
[13:46] <epiro> duvld - that's it...
[13:46] <Ned__> anyone know how I can get virtualbox that I installed to appear in Applications?
[13:46] <winsharp> anyone use xubuntu?
[13:46] <ChrisHerlein> I
[13:46] <epiro> winsharp - yea, I do!
[13:46] <gearsecond> winsharp
[13:46] <Ned__> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10
[13:47] <gearsecond> i use xubuntu
[13:47] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | winsharp
[13:47] <winsharp> my system is xubuntu9.04
[13:47] <ortsvorsteher> !jaunty | winsharp
[13:47] <ChrisHerlein> :S I use 8.10
[13:47]  * StR|Sangreal so many questions and so few answers
[13:47] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | ChrisHerlein
[13:47] <epiro> winsharp - do you have all the menus available? did they disappear for you after second boot?
[13:48] <ortsvorsteher> i have running ubuntu 8.10 on an toshiba laptop with an realtek rtl 8139 nic. this card doesnt want to run. how can i configure it?
[13:48] <TrX> StR - or so many repeated questions and not enough google-foo ;P
[13:48] <ChrisHerlein> No, i havent problem
[13:48] <gearsecond> what should i do to make work compiz once i have it installed?
[13:48] <StR|Sangreal> pls if i have removed my windoze from boot options, what shall i do to add it back there?
[13:48] <winsharp> me too ,have not problem
[13:48] <ChrisHerlein> :D
[13:48] <gearsecond> what should i do to activate compiz?
[13:49] <jrib> !ccsm | gearsecond
[13:49] <ChrisHerlein> I gnome?
[13:49] <Ned__> how do I get virtualbox to appear in Applications in Intrepid?
[13:49] <gearsecond> my system has it installed already
[13:49] <ChrisHerlein> In gnome?
[13:49] <TrX> StR|Sangreal It depends what you have removed. If you have just removed the entry in grub, you can just add an entry back to point grub at the windows partition (google, chainload windows from grub) However if you have done something silly to the windows partition like removed it with fdisk or accidentally written over it you may be in trouble :)
[13:50] <Downing> Heya, how do I sort out my graphics drivers
[13:50] <tyi> ortsvorsteher: xf86config
[13:50] <TrX> Downing: Your going to need to be a little more specific that that, what issues are you havinh
[13:50] <ortsvorsteher> tyi: what should i do with xf86config?
[13:50] <epiro> haahahaha...chaos...
[13:50] <TrX> s/havinh/having
[13:50] <gearsecond> ubottu: ive the compiz installed. what should i do to activate that
[13:50] <gearsecond> ?
[13:50] <Downing> Well no drivers installed at the moment, so im stuck at 4:3 1280x~~~ instead of 1680x1050 :)
[13:50] <tyi> ortsvorsteher: it should ask you for certain values that will help you configure x for graphics
[13:51] <Downing> Got nvidia geforce 9 series... 9600 gs or something, cant remember exactly
[13:51] <Ned__> can someone help me out with using virtualbox?
[13:51] <ml__> What to press when ubuntu freezes? ctrl alt del equivalent?
[13:51] <m1dlg> I have a black screen after crashing something, can't reboot for several hours as I am moving a lot of folders about. I started startx when I was presented with a text screen, but the hdd's were still flashing so i knew the copying was working bit I can't see anything. is there a way for me to view the screen?
[13:51] <ChrisHerlein> Did you try in Sistem --> apearance --> desktop efects ?
[13:51] <familia> estou precisando de ajuda
[13:51] <ortsvorsteher> tyi: i am so sorry, i have no x problems. but thanks for the idea ;) i need to run an realtek 8139 nic with ubuntu 8.10
[13:51] <ChrisHerlein> Que?
[13:51] <ortsvorsteher> !who | ChrisHerlein
[13:52] <tyi> Ned__: it has to be running i think
[13:52] <familia> sumiu o ícone de conexão da área de notificação
[13:52] <gearsecond> Ahris: i dont have ubuntu i m a xunbuntu user
[13:52] <familia> não consigo
[13:52] <ChrisHerlein> xD
[13:52] <familia> colocar de novo
[13:52] <Ned__> tyi I don't know, it might be running but I don't know how to access it
[13:52] <ortsvorsteher> !es | familia
[13:52] <dlns> no hints anyone? :(
[13:52] <ortsvorsteher> i have running ubuntu 8.10 on an toshiba laptop with an realtek rtl 8139 nic. this card doesnt want to run. how can i configure it?
[13:53] <StR|Sangreal> TrX, the doze is present on the disk i just want to add the entry
[13:54] <epiro> how shall i doto get help?
[13:54] <familia> alguém pode me ajudar com o ícone da área de notificação
[13:54] <epiro> no hablas espanol / portuguese
 Are you sure that compiz is avaible for Xubuntu?
[13:54] <bazhang> !br | familia
[13:55] <winsharp> I am install ie4linux
[13:55] <gearsecond> Chris: yes cause ive it installed already
[13:55] <Guest88179> IS posible to make scren roation with nvidia drivers ?
[13:55] <ChrisHerlein> :\ Then, no idea :S
[13:56] <floryn> someone can help me with instalation modem usb adsl  on ubuntu 8.10?
[13:56] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher: is the e100 module running on your system?
[13:56] <floryn> for 8.04 version i got this programs http://paste.ubuntu.com/140106/plain/
[13:56] <ChrisHerlein> Get a router-modem!
[13:56] <gearsecond> it came in xubuntu series
[13:56] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: how can i figure out if e100 module runs?
[13:57] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher: lsmod
[13:57] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: no, it isnt running.
[13:57] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: no, the module isnt loaded ;)
[13:57] <floryn> ChrisHerlein: is the only solution to fix this?
[13:58] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher:ok, try sudo insmod e100
[13:58] <floryn> ChrisHerlein: i thought i need one more progam or something,if in 8.04 it works
[13:58] <floryn> ChrisHerlein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/140106/plain/
[13:59] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: it doesnt work, it says: insmod: can't read 'e100': No such file or directory
[13:59] <gearsecond> what should i do with ccsm?
[13:59] <gearsecond> to activate the woobly windows
[13:59] <ubuntistas> is safari or google chrome open source?
[13:59] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher:ok, does ifconfig show eth0?
[13:59] <ziroday> ubuntistas: google chrome is open source
[14:00] <ubuntistas> is it available for ubuntu ziroday?
[14:00] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: yes
[14:00] <ziroday> ubuntistas: only in an uncompleted alpha stage. Why do you want it?
[14:01] <ziroday> gearsecond: tick the wobbly windows box?
[14:01] <ubuntistas> when is goin to be offically released ziroday?
[14:01] <gearsecond> ziroday: where in?
[14:01] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher:ok, good, e100 was the wrong mod anyway. try ifup eth0
[14:01]  * pingu join #ubuntu-de
[14:01] <ziroday> ubuntistas: when it gets released. Why do you need it?
[14:01] <raven> hi - is it possible to add an "identity" in EVOLUTION? to have several outgoing adresses with one account??
[14:02] <ubuntistas> just asking
[14:02] <ziroday> gearsecond: under Effects, just search for Wobbly Windows
[14:02] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: after an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 the interface not works. i had to use ndiswrapper but still there is a problem to activate the interface. the ifup says, eth0 already configured
[14:02]  * liss nick terean
[14:02]  * liss join #ubuntu-de
[14:03] <ziroday> liss: what are you doing?
[14:03] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher:what does ifup eth0 tell you?
[14:03] <ChrisHerlein> Anyone plays UrbanTerror?
[14:03] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: ifup says, eth0 already configured
[14:03] <raven> hi - is it possible to add an "identity" in EVOLUTION? to have several outgoing adresses with one account??
[14:03] <ziroday> !anyone | ChrisHerlein
[14:04] <gearsecond> ziroday: where is efects?
[14:04] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher: ok, can you ping the ip address of eth0?
[14:04] <ziroday> gearsecond: in ccsm
[14:04] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: the interface is up, but has no ip address configured.
[14:04] <underZ> Hi. Why this? http://f.imagehost.org/view/0140/format
[14:04] <gearsecond> ok i m trying to open ccsm
[14:05] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher: ok, ifconfig eth0
[14:05] <ziroday> gearsecond: in a terminal type in ccsm
[14:05] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: i can ifconfig the interface and give him a address. also im able to set a route. but still, i cannot ping the router or anything else...
[14:05] <gearsecond> ziroday: yeah ive already installed ccsm, but i cant open it
[14:05] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher: and you can't ping the card either?
[14:06] <ziroday> gearsecond: type in ccsm into the terminal, what does it output?
[14:06] <L3dPlatedLinux> hey I had to  install my old wired mouse cause my wireless one was messing up and was wondering if there is something I am missing cause its not moving as well as the other one was  its like I have to move it ferther to cover  what I would have with the old mouse. I hope someone can understand what I am saying
[14:06] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: how do you mean ping the card? after i ifconfig an ip address to the card?
[14:06] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher: yes
[14:07] <miroslav_> hi
[14:07] <progre55> hey all! I have this chinese usb-webcam, linux says "usbcore: registered new interface driver zc3xx" but it's not working properly. is there any other drivers I could use?
[14:07] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: yes, after i added an ip address to eth0, i can ping this address
[14:07] <miroslav_> je tu niekto slovak
[14:07] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher: good, can you ping the router now?
[14:07] <gearsecond> ziroday: i opened ccsm from the configuration bar
[14:07] <stepdown_> hello everybody :)
[14:07] <gearsecond> but it hsant been opened yet
[14:07] <underZ> Hi. Why this? http://f.imagehost.org/view/0140/format
[14:08] <ziroday> gearsecond: /just/ type ccsm into a terminal. What does it output
[14:08] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: no, i cannot ping the router...
[14:08] <L3dPlatedLinux> is there a way to set how far I would have to move the mouse in order to get from one corner to another one if you follow me
[14:08] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher: sounds like a bad cable between the router and your box then.
[14:09] <noxer> hi ... i have got a problem: i connected a laptop to my television ... when i start firefox to watch an online video stream, everything more or less works fine (flash is a little slow) ... when i now turn into fullscreen, the video runs about a minute or two, then the screen darkens ... fullscreen mode is left ... why does that happen? which settings do i have to tweak?
[14:09] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: i dont think so, cause i used the cable here before on my pc to close out that the cable is damaged
[14:09] <oCean_> L3dPlatedLinux: Gnome? System menu > Preferences > Mouse
[14:10] <ortsvorsteher> n2diy: i think there is a bug at the realtek 8139 nic... :(
[14:10] <L3dPlatedLinux> I know that thats just the speed
[14:10] <stepdown_> hi guys, if you install Jaunty Beta, it'll be same as release Jaunty if you keep it updated, right?
[14:10] <aspire> hum
[14:10] <gearsecond> ziroday: ive got the compiz settings opened
[14:10] <aspire> ^^
[14:10] <gearsecond> what should i do now?
[14:10] <raven> hi - is it possible to add an "identity" in EVOLUTION? to have several outgoing adresses with one account??
[14:11] <tyi> stepdown_: i don't recommend you jaunty
[14:11] <noxer> does somebody know a solution for my problem?
[14:11] <antti> I have HP Pavilion tx2000 laptop and I'm not able to get sounds out. Can someone help me?
[14:11] <gearsecond> ziroday: what should i do now?
[14:12] <stepdown_> tyi, nope? just I'm looking to get a box running at home, going back to uni around the 23rd
[14:12] <ma3x> how do you remove the splash screen on boot? i want to see the console text
[14:12] <n2diy> ortsvorsteher: well, if you can ping the card, and not the router, it is something between them. The 8139 is a solid card, I set up one for a friend of mine two years ago. And we didn't need the wrapper either? Anyway, I've been called to breakfast, so I gotta run now, gl.
[14:12] <tyi> stepdown_: then use 8.10
[14:12] <ortsvorsteher> thx
[14:12] <root>   ] [ krato          ] [ odder           ] [ Snake           ] [ Zeit|awy        ]
[14:12] <stepdown_> tyi, fair enough
[14:12] <Guest77530>   ] [ krato          ] [ odder           ] [ Snake           ] [ Zeit|awy        ]
[14:12] <tyi> ma3x: do it from the gui and use verbose
[14:12] <gearsecond> ziroday: i didnt find any efects icon there
[14:13] <stepdown_> probably better to wait until 9.04 has settled in anyway, thanks :)
[14:13] <blackest_knight> I have a problem some text files i have are written in Polish and if I open them with gedit all the accented letters are messed up any idea how to fix this ?
[14:13] <oCean_> L3dPlatedLinux: well yes. But set to slowes, I have to move my mouse much more than when I set it to Fast.
[14:13] <ma3x> tyi: how?
[14:13] <noxer> blackest_knight: did you try to switch over to utf-8 format?
[14:14] <SandGorgon> which ftp server should I run on Ubuntu Intrepid ?
[14:14] <oCean_> !ftpd | SandGorgon
[14:14] <blackest_knight> eh no  how do i do that
[14:14] <Iceman_B^Ltop> is it normal behaviour for Ubuntu 8.10 to see an IDE hdd as "(sda)" on "SCSI1" ?
[14:14] <SandGorgon> oCean_: umm... I was hoping for some recommendations ?
[14:14] <vjacob> isn't there a command to reinstall packages and overwrite existing?
[14:14] <leutenent> noxer: maybe your screensaver time is too small
[14:14] <gearsecond> ziroday: it ouput the ccsm window
[14:14] <gearsecond> what to do now?
[14:14] <Guest25884> ej ostatnia rzecz pls ;F
[14:15] <noxer> erm i have to look that up ... i just know that the same problem occurs in webpages when you use the wrong format for the text
[14:15] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys
[14:15] <noxer> @leutenet: thx i ll try that out
[14:15] <ohletmeinnowjesu> does anyone know how to enable/disable automount for removable drives?
[14:15] <underZ> Hi. Why this? http://f.imagehost.org/view/0140/format
[14:15] <oCean_> SandGorgon: hm well, In my experience, ProFTPd is easy to setup, but it all depends of course. If you have specific wishes as to the posibilities, you have to read up on the various servers.
[14:15] <Guest25884> can samone help me i have last problem;D when i rotate scren its k my mouse works fine with it but tablet no its working like it was not rotated
[14:15] <quibbler> !pl
[14:16] <echogen> hello, i have installed a new hard disk, can i add it to the root directory "/" ?
[14:16] <raven> hi - is it possible to add an "identity" in EVOLUTION? to have several outgoing adresses with one account??
[14:16] <Ademan> anyone know of some good, complete, free (preferably as in freedom) "geometric" fonts? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sans-serif#Classification couple examples mentioned there, I like futura but I haven't exactly got a spare 480 USD to blow on it...)
[14:16] <tyi> ma3x: find your central configuration and find your boot options then spash screen then boot theme
[14:16] <SandGorgon> oCean_: thanks!
[14:16] <blackest_knight> well great bot telling me to go to a polish forum to sort problems on a english installation of ubuntu
[14:16] <gearsecond> can anybody help me to have woobly windows?
[14:17] <Guest25884> blsackest a co ci sie stalo ?
[14:17] <echogen> gearsecond, compiz ?
[14:17] <tyi> blackest_knight: dont endeavor to change your system language to polish, this will mess up everything
[14:17] <bill_hilly> need some help plz
[14:17] <Waldir> how do I set an app to autostart at system launch?
[14:17] <gearsecond> yes
[14:17] <noxer> blackest_knight: did you define your klanguage in gedit?
[14:17] <gearsecond> ive got that
[14:17] <ohletmeinnowjesu> ^bump
[14:17] <kristian_> !brasero
[14:17] <echogen> bill_hilly, in gnome or kde ?
[14:17] <bill_hilly> gnome
[14:17] <gearsecond> echogen: ive got that
[14:18] <gearsecond> what to do with compiz configuration manager
[14:18] <gearsecond> ?
[14:18] <echogen> gearsecond, gnome ?
[14:18] <chotaz> you use it =\
[14:18] <echogen> u have gnome ?
[14:18] <ohletmeinnowjesu> ^^bump
[14:18] <gearsecond> echogen: xfce
[14:18] <gearsecond> i dnt know wat is gnome
[14:19] <gearsecond> echogen: how to know that?
[14:19] <blackest_knight> klanguage ?
[14:19] <oCean_> !patience | ohletmeinnowjesu
[14:19] <gearsecond> echogen: ive xubuntu 8.10
[14:19] <quibbler> !ask | bill_hilly
[14:19] <blackest_knight> i did try telling gedit the file is in polish but it didnt do anything
[14:19] <echogen> gearsecond, press ALT-F2
[14:19] <echogen> then run:  simple-ccsm
[14:20] <echogen> gearsecond, that will run the simple compiz configuration
[14:20] <BlessJah> omfg
[14:20] <gearsecond> yes here it is
[14:20] <BlessJah> 1390 nicks! and only 1 op!
[14:20] <echogen> go to effects
[14:20] <gearsecond> echogen: wjat to do know?
[14:20] <echogen> then choose Woobly windows
[14:20] <lstarnes> BlessJah: there are more ops than that;  they're all hidden
[14:20] <gearsecond> there is no efects option
[14:21] <ohletmeinnowjesu> oCean_: !patience?? why are you piping anxiousness to me?
[14:21] <ma3x> can you zoom in/out in ubuntu? just like in kde4 with meta+-/+
[14:21] <echogen> r u sure u have compiz running ?
[14:21] <hbx_> hey how do i apply beryl themes in ubuntu now that beryl and compiz is not compiz-fusion
[14:21] <hbx_> is now*
[14:22] <ohletmeinnowjesu> oCean_: no wonder im so anxy...ppl keep forwarding their anti-patience to me!
[14:22] <gearsecond> echogen: there are only three  options: filtre, category and advanced search
[14:22] <echogen> hbx, i think compiz fusion is the fusion of compiz and beryl... no ?
[14:22] <hbx_> yea
[14:22] <hbx_> thats what i mean
[14:22] <chotaz> Has anyone got Steam and Counster-Stirke 1.6 running?
[14:22] <hbx_> how to i apply emerald themes
[14:22] <gearsecond> what should i do then echogen?
[14:22] <echogen> gearsecond, can u send me a snapshot of ur screen ?
[14:22] <gearsecond> ok
[14:22] <gearsecond> how to do that?
[14:23] <echogen> hbx, ALT-F2, then run: fusion-icon --no-start
[14:23] <echogen> gearsecond, gnome-screenshot --interactive
[14:23] <hbx_> k
[14:24] <hbx_> thanks
[14:24] <echogen> hbx, once u run it,,, u will have a small icon on ur taskbar
[14:24] <echogen> u install themes from there
[14:24] <hbx_> nope that didnt work
[14:25] <echogen> is it possible to add space to root directory "/" from a new harddisk ?
[14:25] <mimor> Hello all! Is there a way to keep informed about the latest changes on the ubuntu forum? or more comforting, staying informed on some topics?
[14:25] <ma3x> is there main non-free in ubuntu?
[14:25] <echogen> u tried it and it did not work ?
[14:25] <hbx_> nope
[14:25] <noxer> ok i think i solved the problem with the darkening screen ... does somebody have an idea how to make flash movies to play more fluently in firefox?
[14:25] <ma3x> what's universe what's restricted?
[14:25] <fabian> Hello
[14:26] <ma3x> and what's multiverse
[14:26] <nathan7> ma3x: Is not-completely free software.
[14:26] <fabian> can someone help me with an ubuntu installation in an external usb drive?
[14:26] <finiteset> why does n't Linux need a firewall?
[14:26] <ortsvorsteher> !install | fabian
[14:26] <nathan7> finiteset: Because it's secure by design.
[14:26] <ma3x> nathan7: explain all three: universe multiverse restricted
[14:26] <huh-what> greetings
[14:27] <chotaz> How to get Steam and CounterStrike working on 1.6?
[14:27] <nathan7> ma3x: Restricted is non-free software.
[14:27] <bill_hilly> what do i need: Linux bill-laptop 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:27] <bill_hilly> No LSB modules are available.
[14:27] <bill_hilly> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[14:27] <bill_hilly> Description:    Ubuntu 7.10
[14:27] <bill_hilly> Release:        7.10
[14:27] <FloodBot1> bill_hilly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:27] <bill_hilly> Codename:       gutsy
[14:27] <nathan7> ma3x: Universe is lots of opensource software.
[14:27] <jpds> !components
[14:27] <jpds> ma3x: ^
[14:27] <chotaz> !steam | ChotaZ
[14:27] <quibbler> mimor-> you can subscribe to a thread....for general new threads use a rss reader
[14:27] <finiteset> nathan7: what do you mean by design? there are still open ports on it and also linux servers get hacked at times...
[14:28] <fabian> obttu: thanks a lot :-)
[14:28] <echogen> hbx, sorry i dunno
[14:28] <nathan7> finiteset: It doesn't come with any open ports.
[14:28] <fabian> obottu: thanks a lot :-)
[14:28] <huh-what> I installed nvidia drivers with envyng. But now when I boot I get a black screen and then the computer beeps
[14:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> what does the "Landscape" thing do ?
[14:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> im installing the ubuntu server now
[14:28] <fangyanna> ujjkkj
[14:28] <huh-what> and my xorg lorg doesn't tell any errors
[14:28] <huh-what> log*
[14:28] <bill_hilly> sorry; old man, new to this
[14:28] <huh-what> is there any other logs that i could check?
[14:29] <noxer> how do make flash play more fluently in browser fullscreen mode? any ideas?
[14:29] <jpds> finiteset: The ports are open but there is nothing listening on them by default.
[14:29] <nathan7> noxer: Hmm, install your video card drivers.
[14:29] <finiteset> jpds: what if there is something listening?
[14:29] <nathan7> finiteset: Then it lets it in.
[14:30] <nathan7> finiteset: Most people have a NAT firewall in front anyways.
[14:30] <jpds> finiteset: You have to actually install a service/daemon to let people get in.
[14:30] <finiteset> nathan7: so we need some sort of a software firewall in linux?
[14:30] <Iceman_B^Ltop> Does "automatically installing security updates" on a server machine ever require reboots ?
[14:30] <jpds> finiteset: Of course, you can protect and make these secure in a number of ways (apparmor, firewalls, etc).
[14:30] <echogen> why some flash applications do not run in firefox ?
[14:30] <nathan7> Because..
[14:31] <nathan7> They suck?
[14:31] <jpds> finiteset: Linux has a firewall system built in.
[14:31] <noxer> well thats not the point
[14:31] <finiteset> jpds: what is it called?
[14:31] <jpds> !ufw | finiteset
[14:31] <djcip> trying to get wacom working on my fujitsu tablet 5010 - could someone help me?!?!
[14:31] <jpds> Grr.
[14:31] <echogen> nathan7, they run in flash in opera
[14:31] <jpds> !iptables | finiteset
[14:31] <noxer> i would liek to get flash working fluently in browser
[14:31] <gearsecond> echogen: i couldnt do the scrren snapshot
[14:31] <nathan7> djcip: Something in Xorg.conf.
[14:31] <jpds> !info ufw | finiteset
[14:31] <nathan7> echogen: Well, I duno then.
[14:32] <djcip> nathan7 - its more than that - lspci doesn't see my tablet at all
[14:32] <nathan7> !info irssi
[14:32] <jpds> finiteset: ufw is a frontend to iptables, makes it easier to use.
[14:32] <nathan7> djcip: I guess it's USB.
[14:32] <gearsecond> echogen; can y help me?
[14:32] <jpds> finiteset: Both come installed by default on Ubuntu.
[14:32] <nathan7> djcip: I never heard of any PCI tablets.
[14:32] <nathan7> djcip: So I guess you'd better try lsusb.
[14:32] <djcip> nathan7 - its built into the computer screen - so.. ur guess is as good as mine
[14:33] <nathan7> djcip: It's still not PCI.
[14:33] <gearsecond> echogen: open my message window please
[14:33] <finiteset> jpds: so for everyday use it is not necessary to take any actions to make the system more secure? it already is secure?
[14:33] <nathan7> djcip: It is USB most probably.
[14:33] <nathan7> finiteset: Yep.
[14:33] <echogen> gearsecond, ok
[14:33] <nathan7> finiteset: It comes secure.
[14:33] <jpds> finiteset: Yes, nothing is listening to let people get in.
[14:33] <chotaz> !cs > ChotaZ
[14:33] <jpds> finiteset: As long as you apply security updates regular, you should be safe.
[14:33] <anr78> do we frown upon spaces in filenames?
[14:33] <ortsvorsteher> i have running ubuntu 8.10 on an toshiba laptop with an realtek rtl 8139 nic. this card doesnt want to run. how can i configure it?
[14:33] <nathan7> anr78: Yes.
[14:34] <finiteset> nathan7 | jpds: thank you
[14:34] <noxer> configuration: ubuntu 8.10 on p4 2.8ghz with nvidia geforce fx go 5300 ... it should be possible to watch flash movies in firefox fluently with nvidia 173 installed ... what reasons could there be for not working fluently ??
[14:34]  * anr78 frowns
[14:34] <nathan7> ortsvorsteher: WiFi card?
[14:34] <djcip> nathan7, still not there, finds something made by Z-Star, my fingerprinter reader, usb hubs, and Taiyo Yuden
[14:34] <jpds> finiteset: If you really want nothing to get in just run: sudo ufw enable && sudo ufw default deny
[14:34] <ortsvorsteher> nathan7: it is an ethernet wired connection. the wifi is another card...
[14:35] <franz11> wat is your name
[14:35] <jpds> finiteset: That'll enable the firewall and deny everything trying to connect to your system.
[14:35] <nathan7> ortsvorsteher: Hmm, I'll look it up. Sec.
[14:35] <franz11> knut und gut
[14:35] <ortsvorsteher> nathan7: ok
[14:35] <knut> franz11: :P
[14:36] <ortsvorsteher> !de | franz11
[14:36] <oCean_> franz11: this is ubuntu technical support, not chat
[14:36] <nathan7> ortsvorsteher: It should be built into the kernel..
[14:36] <knut> hehe
[14:36] <finiteset> jpds: will i be able to use the internet?
[14:36] <nathan7> finiteset: Yes.
[14:36] <ortsvorsteher> nathan7: you mean the driver?
[14:36] <nathan7> finiteset: It only applies to incoming connections.
[14:36] <nathan7> ortsvorsteher: Yes.
[14:36] <jpds> finiteset: Yes, it's for incoming connections only.
[14:36] <nathan7> ortsvorsteher: http://tinyurl.com/3b3kgj
[14:36] <nathan7> I just _love_ this channel.
[14:37]  * grawity waves at nathan7
[14:37] <ortsvorsteher> nathan7: so i have to disable ndiswrapper?
[14:37] <echogen> ! add hardisk
[14:37] <nathan7> grawity: Hai!
[14:37] <echogen> ! add space
[14:37] <nathan7> ortsvorsteher: Think so.
[14:37] <Iceman_B^Ltop> does anyone know if automatic updates on Ibex Server requires reboots?
[14:37] <ortsvorsteher> nathan7: i try... thx
[14:37] <nathan7> Iceman_B^Ltop: No.
[14:37] <nathan7> Iceman_B^Ltop: Except kernel things.
[14:37] <franz11> wath new
[14:37] <Iceman_B^Ltop> does that qualify as an automatic security update ?
[14:38] <nathan7> Iceman_B^Ltop: Usually not.
[14:38] <Iceman_B^Ltop> alright
[14:38] <nathan7> Iceman_B^Ltop: Only in exceptional cases.
[14:38] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I'll go with automatic updates then
[14:38] <nathan7> Iceman_B^Ltop: It will never automatically reboot.
[14:38] <bill_hilly> hope I've done this right: http://paste.ubuntu.com/140116/
[14:38] <nathan7> Iceman_B^Ltop: _Never_.
[14:38] <Iceman_B^Ltop> cool :)
[14:38] <regtech> are there any security experts here/
[14:38] <alnuvola> salve a tutti
[14:38] <TheMaestro> hi..how do i know which nvidia drivers to install for my ubuntu installation
[14:38] <TheMaestro> ?
[14:38] <nathan7> regtech: I'm a bit.
[14:39] <nathan7> TheMaestro: It should come up automatically.
[14:39] <regtech> nathan, I am trying to locate the source of a script, how do i do that?
[14:39] <nathan7> TheMaestro: Ubuntu will ask you if you want to install it.
[14:39] <nathan7> regtech: Which script?
[14:39] <regtech> I have checked, rc.local, rc.sysinit, /etc/crontab /etc/cron* and /etc/init.rc*
[14:40] <regtech> its an ebay script
[14:40] <TheMaestro> nathan..and what if i install compiz fusion? is it likely to interfere with the display config?
[14:40] <nathan7> TheMaestro: No.
[14:40] <TheMaestro> nathan7, thanks
[14:40] <regtech> I found a process phython ebcript "random name"
[14:40] <nathan7> regtech: Those are things started at startup.
[14:40] <nathan7> bill_hilly: You need kernel headers.
[14:41] <nathan7> bill_hilly: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[14:41] <regtech> how do i find it launching them, after i killed the processes, i rebooted the system, no sign of the scripts, but then a day later they came back
[14:41] <nathan7> regtech: Hmm...
[14:41] <nathan7> regtech: Lemme think.
[14:41]  * nathan7 eats FloodBot1 
[14:41] <bill_hilly> thanks!
[14:41] <jrib> regtech: I'd start by finding the location of the script
[14:41] <nathan7> bill_hilly: Yw.
[14:41] <regtech> so now im using crontab to laucnh my counter script which hunts down the processes and kills them, but its just putting water on a fire, i need to find the source of this
[14:41] <nathan7> jrib: Something ps I think.
[14:41] <raven> hi - is it possible to add an "identity" in EVOLUTION? to have several outgoing adresses with one account??
[14:42] <regtech> i have found the location, /var/www/html
[14:42] <nathan7> Hmm.
[14:42] <nathan7> Well, can't you just delete it?
[14:42] <nathan7> Wait..
[14:42] <jrib> regtech: then I'd look at the script and figure out why it is there.
[14:42] <nathan7> regtech: You running a webserver?
[14:42] <oCean_> bill_hilly: use this command to install correct headers: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[14:43] <nathan7> oCean_: Just linux-headers usually works.
[14:43] <regtech> its there because someone hacked in and installed it
[14:43] <nathan7> oCean_: Just gets the latest.
[14:43] <TheMaestro> okay..there  is a wierd display color when i hover over the title bar of any window..im on a new installation
[14:43] <regtech> its on someone elses system.
[14:43] <TheMaestro> any idea wht might be the prob?
[14:43] <bill_hilly> thanks again!
[14:43] <nathan7> regtech: Aha..
[14:43] <jrib> regtech: wipe the drive and reinstall then
[14:43] <ghostlines> all of a sudden my firefox title bar is gone, all my other applications title bars work fine
[14:43] <nathan7> regtech: jrib's solution is the safest.
[14:43] <ghostlines> can someone help me with this?
[14:43] <oCean_> nathan7: nope. Since linux-headers is a virtual package, You should explicitly select one to install
[14:43] <nathan7> ghostlines: Using compiz or anything?
[14:44] <nathan7> oCean_: Used to work great here.
[14:44] <regtech> sure, i agree, but its complicated
[14:44] <ghostlines> yes I'm using compiz
[14:44] <regtech> i need to find out whats spawning it
[14:44] <nathan7> regtech: Yeah.
[14:44]  * _CommandeR_ is away: Fapping
[14:44] <jrib> regtech: it's not really complicated. It's impossible to know what else has been done
[14:44] <regtech> is there anyway of tracing back?
[14:44]  * _CommandeR_ is back (gone 00:00:08)
[14:44] <regtech> jrib, you dont know the circumstances
[14:44] <metalfan_> hi
[14:45] <nathan7> regtech: I suggest you get a copy of Hacking Exposed.
[14:45] <maarten_> does anyone know good webcam software
[14:45] <regtech> thanks mate
[14:45] <metalfan_> ive activated orca accidently, theres no entry for it below "sessions"  where do i get rid of it?
[14:45] <nathan7> maarten_: CHeese.
[14:45]  * _CommandeR_ is away: Message
[14:45] <regtech> i was about to ask about literature on this .
[14:45] <jrib> regtech: I'm just telling you what I would do.  Regardless of the circumstances, you can no longer trust that system
[14:45]  * _CommandeR_ is back (gone 00:00:13)
[14:45] <jrib> !away | _CommandeR_
[14:45] <regtech> yeah thanks jrib, i do agree with you, i need to do it
[14:45] <nathan7> regtech: Make sure to do investigation from a livecd or something else read-only.
[14:46] <regtech> i just want to find out how its respawning, at the moment im using cron to kill any new instances.
[14:46] <nathan7> ps faux
[14:46] <nathan7> Will give you the user, and the parent process.
[14:47] <regtech> my programming is my achelese heel
[14:47] <bill_hilly> "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" - "no installation candidate". What now?
[14:47] <regtech> cheers for the help guys
[14:47] <nathan7> bill_hilly: Hmm, strange.
[14:48] <shay26> Hello , can someone recommend me on good software for recover files from ntfs partition under from Ubuntu ?
[14:48] <nathan7> regtech: You're welcome.
[14:48] <nathan7> shay26: Photorec.
[14:48] <oCean_> bill_hilly: it does not say it's already installed?
[14:48] <bill_hilly> no
[14:48] <quinten> hey, trying to install ubuntu jaunty in a dual-boot configuration. it keeps failing when it tries to resize. will intrepid work better?
[14:48] <oCean_> bill_hilly: check dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[14:48] <nathan7> quinten: Usually, yes.
[14:48] <bill_hilly> ok
[14:49] <oCean_> bill_hilly: just to be sure
[14:49] <nathan7> quinten: If you aren't a programmer or developer I wouldn't recommend jaunty anyways.
[14:49] <shay26> nathan7: it recover only photos or any data ?
[14:49] <nathan7> shay26: Also data.
[14:49] <erpo> True or false: An ntfs filesystem is mounted on /media/disk using the ntfs-3g driver. If stat /media/disk/file.txt reports that file.txt has a link count of 2, then sudo find /media/disk -samefile /media/disk/filex.txt -print should print both hard links to filex.txt.
[14:49] <nathan7> erpo: True.
[14:49]  * _CommandeR_ is away: 
[14:49]  * _CommandeR_ is back (gone 00:00:03)
[14:50] <erpo> nathan7: That's what I thought, but it's not true on my system. :/
[14:50] <nathan7> erpo: Hmm...
[14:50] <bill_hilly> "no description available"
[14:50] <oCean_> _CommandeR_: please don't announce your away publicly
[14:50] <nathan7> erpo: Run around the house naked, screaming?
[14:50] <nathan7> =p
[14:50] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay, he server installed is asking me to install GRUB, I had Ubuntu 8.10 dekstop installed. but I only want Server now, do I still need grub then ?
[14:50] <nathan7> Iceman_B^Ltop: Yes, you need it.
[14:51] <nathan7> Iceman_B^Ltop: GRUB is what loads Ubuntu.
[14:51] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh, okay
[14:51] <oCean_> bill_hilly: what does "uname -r" give, actually?
[14:51] <nathan7> Iceman_B^Ltop: It boots a lot better when it loads an operating system =p
[14:51] <oCean_> bill_hilly: and what is your current ubuntu version?
[14:51] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but I dont neccesarily want to choose between both versions
[14:51] <nathan7> Hmm.
[14:51] <erpo> nathan7: My next thought is: corrupt filesystem. But windows doesn't seem to encounter any problems booting from that filesystem, and a large number of files claim to have 2 hard links.
[14:51] <nathan7> erpo: Hm...
[14:51] <nathan7> erpo: NTFS-3G bug?
[14:51] <bill_hilly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/140116/
[14:52] <Iceman_B^Ltop> when I turn my machine on, I just want it to go to Ibex server immediately
[14:52] <nathan7> Yes.
[14:52] <nathan7> Iceman_B^Ltop: You still need to load it.
[14:52] <Iceman_B^Ltop> alright
[14:52] <nathan7> Otherwise Ubuntu Server won't load.
[14:52] <TheMaestro> is thr a specific channel for gnome mods and hacks?
[14:52] <nathan7> #gnome?
[14:52] <Guest25884> Anyone know haw can i make torun 2 commands from 1 lets say activator on panel
[14:53] <TheMaestro> ohkie
[14:53] <nathan7> Guest25884: A shell script.
[14:53] <Guest25884> nathan7: and i f i want to connect it with hardware button ?
[14:54] <Guest25884> nathan7: and i f i want to connect it with hardware button ?
[14:54] <nathan7> Guest25884: Hmm, that's a bit harder.
[14:54] <Guest25884> :)
[14:54] <Guest25884> and wher i have to put this script to run it from console ?
[14:54] <nathan7> On your keyboard?
[14:54] <oCean_> bill_hilly: ok Gutsy, maybe there's a difference in the older versions. Can you do "apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic" - see if it suggests install options
[14:54] <nathan7> Guest25884: A keyboard button?
[14:55] <nathan7> Guest25884: Or one on your computer itself?
[14:55] <Guest25884> no i have a tablet pc and i have hmm now not used button witch are mapped to 123456 and i need to remap it and let them run scripts
[14:55] <bill_hilly> I'll try; may take me a minute
[14:55] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay...rebooting post-install...
[14:55] <nathan7> Guest25884: Sorry, this is really hard to understand...
[14:55]  * Iceman_B^Ltop crosses fingers
[14:56] <Guest25884> and scipt i need is samthing that makes when i pres button it rotates screan and stylus and when i pres it again it returns to norlan(again runs scipts that rotate screan and stylus ;))
[14:56] <ChrizC> any idea why my voice cannot be heard through my microphone? (soundcard is onboard, doesn't need a driver as far as I've been told)
[14:56] <ChrizC> (I'm on 8.10)
[14:56] <nathan7> Guest25884: Hmm, I can't help you further on that.
[14:56] <nathan7> ChrizC: Try lspci.
[14:56] <ChrizC> in terminal, nathan7?
[14:56] <Atch> layslair.ath.cx
[14:57] <tyi> see you guys later
[14:57] <Guest25884> can samone help me making hmm samthing like rotating script ;)
[14:57] <Guest25884> ???
[14:57] <ChrizC> nathan7; 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)  that's the only thing that shows that is related to audio?
[14:58] <nathan7> AAAAAAAAAAAAAH
[14:58] <nathan7> AC97!
[14:58] <haunted> hi i have a problem watching video files, whatever player I use it shuts itself down as the file starts playing, all codecs needed are installed, can anyone please help me figuring this out?
[14:58]  * nathan7 hides
[14:58] <FloodBot1> nathan7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:58] <ChrizC> yes, it's terrible, I know.
[14:58] <nathan7> FloodBot1: -_-
[14:58]  * ChrizC frowns at his terrible computer.
[14:58] <nathan7> ChrizC: I just got a cheapo soundcard for 3 euros.
[14:58] <Kesman> hello. I accidentally my whole C-drive, what now?
[14:58] <Ned__> I have wine and virtualbox installed on Intrepid...if I wanted to install a Windows application, do I open it with win or virtualbox or does it matter?
[14:59] <grawity> Kesman: ?
[14:59] <Iceman_B^Ltop> does the server version of Ibex still output something to the screen?
[14:59] <Ned__> win = wine
[14:59] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I have my tv hooked up but it says "out of range"
[14:59] <ChrizC> grawity: don't bother with him. it's a joke.
[14:59] <nathan7> Ned__: Virtualbox is a whole computer.
[14:59] <Kesman> ChrizC: :D
[14:59] <ChrizC> :D
[14:59] <ChrizC> I know that trick
[14:59] <nathan7> Ned__: You need to install windows on it to run windows apps.
[14:59] <ChrizC> "I bought a fly-rod, and I accidentally the whole thing."
[14:59] <Kesman> ChrizC: you are no more anonymous :P
[14:59] <Ned__> oh yeah thats right...thanks nathan7...I forgot about that
[14:59] <ChrizC> :P
[15:00] <haunted> hi i have a problem watching video files, whatever player I use it shuts itself down as the file starts playing, all codecs needed are installed, can anyone please help me figuring this out?
[15:00] <Kesman> haunted: run the player in terminal to see any error output
[15:01] <Kesman> in terminal=from terminal
[15:01] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay, help, whenever I start Putty to log into my server machine, I get 'conenction refused"
[15:01] <Ned__> nathan7 I had mirc working just on wine for a while but then it started freezing and I couldnt use it any more
[15:01] <haunted> kesman: how do I do that?
[15:01] <nathan7> haunted: xvideo problems..
[15:01] <Ned__> the mirc started freezing I mean
[15:01] <Kesman> haunted: what player are you using?
[15:01] <nathan7> Ned__: rm -rf ~/.wine
[15:01] <nathan7> Ned__: YOu will loose all your wine things though.
[15:01] <haunted> kesman: vlc, totem...
[15:02] <oCean_> Ned__: but be very careful with that command!
[15:02] <Kesman> haunted: then just type vlc in terminal to run it
[15:02] <Kesman> haunted: then open up the file and see if vlc print out any errors in the terminal
[15:02] <metalfan_> ive activated orca accidently, theres no entry for it below "sessions"  where do i get rid of it?
[15:02] <Ned__> nathan7 I might try that...at the moment I don't have anything critical on wine...I'm new on it
[15:02] <maarten_> i like to see tv on ubuntu, i have freetv200 from marmitek
[15:02] <nathan7> metalfan_: It isn't a desktop environment.
[15:02] <metalfan_> nathan7, did i say it was?
[15:03] <Ned__> ok thanks nathan7
[15:03] <magnetron> maarten_→ if the hardware is supported, you should be able to use "tvtime" to watch it
[15:03] <maarten_> how do i see if the hardware is supported
[15:03] <magnetron> maarten_→ "tvtime" can be installed using Applications → Add/Remove
[15:03] <ma3x> kde4
[15:03] <ma3x> !kde4
[15:04] <bill_hilly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/140128/
[15:04] <Oli``> How do I get the terminal-based driver selector for X?
[15:04] <lechup> #help
[15:04] <nathan7> Oli``: dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[15:05] <Oli``> nathan7: that runs but doesn't do anything
[15:05] <definitely> Is there any other channel for Ubuntu 9.04 or i can ask here ?
[15:05] <haunted> kesman: this is the error vlc returned me back --> QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 1
[15:05] <haunted> QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 1 [????????] x11 video output error: X11 request 140.19 failed with error code 11: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)  Major opcode of failed request:  140 (XVideo) Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()  Serial number of failed request:  83  Current serial number in output stream:  84
[15:05] <zombie-robot> hi im using pidgin. how come the sound doesnt work with irc?
[15:05] <Oli``> definitely: #ubuntu+1
[15:06] <nathan7> Oli``: Oops... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:06] <Oli``> nathan7: ta
[15:06] <nathan7> Oli``: ?
[15:06] <Ned__> oCean_:  thanks I'll be careful with that
[15:07] <Oli``> nathan7: hmm that looks like what I was aiming for but it only asks me about framebuffer and various keyboard settings... nothing about the display driver
[15:07] <Ned__> so far I think all I've got in wine is text editor and mirc
[15:07] <Ned__> oh yeah I better check what I got in text editor then
[15:07] <nathan7> Oli``: Hmm...
[15:07] <Oli``> nathan7: "ta" is short for thanks in northern England
[15:07] <nathan7> Oli``: Ah.
[15:07] <erpo> If anyone is searching these IRC logs looking for the answer to my earlier question, ntfs-3g reports 2 hard links for a file that exceeds the old 8.3 filename limitation for FAT volumes.
[15:08] <nathan7> Nice.
[15:08] <zombie-robot> ﻿hi i'm using pidgin. how come the sound doesn't work with irc?
[15:08] <nathan7> zombie-robot: Hmm, does it work on other protocols?
[15:08] <Iceman_B^Ltop> anyone good with partitioning? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/140129/ <-- this is what my drive looks like now, I want to mount that first 40 GB partition, how do I do that ?
[15:08] <Kesman> haunted: what video hardware are you using?
[15:08] <zombie-robot> yeah
[15:09]  * hASDhaQ_ is away: ZZZzzzZZZzzz
[15:09] <haunted> kesman: i feel ashamed but I can't remember... is there any way to retrieve this info?
[15:09] <oCean_> !away > hASDhaQ_
[15:09]  * hASDhaQ_ is back (gone 00:00:15)
[15:09] <Kesman> haunted: dunno where, maybe from hardware drivers -menu
[15:10] <hASDhaQ_> oCean_: sorry, I go to disable now
[15:10] <oCean_> hASDhaQ_: thank you
[15:10] <haunted> kesman: it is an ATI for sure
[15:12] <hASDhaQ_> oCean_: os, disable:)
[15:12] <chotaz> Anyone here plays Counter-Strike on ubuntu?
[15:12] <Kesman> haunted: have you configured your xorg.conf with any tools or manually?
[15:12] <lechup> is it possible to flush user permission without restarting server
[15:12] <Kesman> haunted: and what driver are you using
[15:12] <lechup> i've changed some prefs in /etc/passwd /etc/groups
[15:12] <Guest72450> hi all, how can I assign the output of a bash command, such as pwd, to a varialble in a makefile ?
[15:12] <savvas> lechup: they just have to log out and log in I think
[15:12] <zombie-robot> ﻿i'm using pidgin. how come the sound doesn't work with irc?
[15:13] <haunted> kesman: I may have modified the xorg.conf following a tutorial and the drivers I use are those provided with ubuntu
[15:13] <savvas> lechup: or maybe there's a refresh option for the server
[15:13] <haunted> kesman: how do I get to xorg.conf?
[15:14] <Kesman> haunted: so I guess they are the restriced ones then, fglrx. I have this option in my xorg.conf's "Section "Device"" -section: Option "VideoOverlay" "on" which you should probably add too
[15:14] <Kesman> haunted: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:14] <Guest72450> hi all, how can I do this variable = command output in a makefile
[15:14] <savvas> lechup: /etc/init.d/yourserverapplicationhere refresh
[15:15] <Kesman> haunted: but make a backup first with sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-back
[15:15] <zombie-robot> what irc client will play sounds in messages?
[15:15] <Kesman> xchat
[15:15] <zombie-robot> how?
[15:15] <Kesman> zombie-robot: dunno, maybe there's an option for it in preferences
[15:15] <magnetron> ... sounds in IRC-messages?
[15:16] <bill_hilly> Ocean_ did you get my reply? http://paste.ubuntu.com/140128/
[15:16] <zombie-robot> i want sound notifications when someone talks in irc
[15:17] <lechup> savvas: thanks, i'll try that
[15:17] <haunted> kesman: I'm NOT using the proprietary drivers! :) and I was wrong I haven't touched this file
[15:17] <Kesman> haunted: ahh, maybe you should be using the fglrx driver
[15:18] <oCean_> bill_hilly: hmm, that is weird
[15:18] <gearsecond> can any body help me to activate compiz?
[15:18] <cooldduuudde> gearsecond: compiz --replace
[15:19] <gearsecond> cooldude: what to do wiht that?
[15:19] <oCean_> bill_hilly: you have kernel 2.6.20-16, but headers 2.6.22.15.22 installed.
[15:19] <bill_hilly> well, I tried upgrading the kernel some time back and it made things funky, so I reverted
[15:19] <haunted> kesman: what if the video is flipping?
[15:19] <cooldduuudde> gearsecond: type it in terminal and press enter
[15:19] <oCean_> bill_hilly: ah I see, well, that is the reason there is no correct headers version
[15:19] <haunted> kesman: 'cause I remember I've uninstalled them for this exact reason...
[15:19] <zouhair> !names
[15:20] <oCean_> bill_hilly: it seems you have to be on kernel 2.6.22. Then there are available kernel-header versions available
[15:21] <gearsecond> it has started downloading compiz
[15:21] <oCean_> bill_hilly: your kernel version, and the corresponding headers package has most likely been obsoleted
[15:21] <n2diy> KD7SPO-rod: hi rod, how's things in Spokane?
[15:21] <cooldduuudde> gearsecond: k. good
[15:21] <bill_hilly> oCean_: so I need to upgrade to 2.6.22
[15:21] <gearsecond> it said that it couldnt find tha pacet wrapper
[15:21] <bill_hilly> right
[15:21] <oCean_> bill_hilly: yes, indeed.
[15:21] <gearsecond> paquet wrapper
[15:21] <zombie-robot> anyone know how to det ﻿sound notifications when someone talks in irc
[15:21] <bill_hilly> thanks so much
[15:22] <TheMaestro> has anyone used usplash? Are there better alternatives?
[15:22] <gearsecond> cooldudee: i want to get the woobly windows please
[15:22] <zombie-robot> ﻿anyone know how to get ﻿sound notifications when someone talks in irc?
[15:22] <oCean_> bill_hilly: I'm not sure what you are actually trying to install (compile) You could also consider upgrading to more recent version of ubuntu?
[15:22] <bill_hilly> btw, how do you add my name to the start of your response to me?
[15:23] <TheMaestro> zombie-robot, depends on what irc client youre using
[15:23] <oCean_> bill_hilly: I type "bill" and hit <tab> key
[15:23] <n2diy> bill_hilly: type a few letters, and hit the tab key
[15:23] <TheMaestro> bill_hilly, type name + rab
[15:23] <TheMaestro> *tab
[15:23] <SherlawkDragon> ugh... Does anyone know the command to make a file totally open to access?
[15:23] <bill_hilly> oCean_, ok - thanks.
[15:23] <LjL> SherlawkDragon: chmod a+rwx filename
[15:24] <TheMaestro> SherlawkDragon, chmod 777 filename
[15:24] <LjL> SherlawkDragon: (generally something you don't want to do)
[15:24] <TheMaestro> yeah
[15:24] <SherlawkDragon> thanks
[15:24] <cooldduuudde> gearsecond: then on desktop press right mouse button > change desktop background > visual effects tab> extra
[15:24] <savvas> SherlawkDragon: define access - read write or execute?
[15:24] <raven> possible to configure VLC STREAMING for using with POCKET PC->TCPMP media player??
[15:24] <TheMaestro> guys has anyone used usplash
[15:24] <TheMaestro> ?
[15:24] <bill_hilly> oCean_, I'm trying to update drivers for my sierra wireless card
[15:24] <cooldduuudde> gearsecond: and i would appreciate if you could please spell the nick right :)
[15:24] <TheMaestro> need to spruce up my booting
[15:24] <savvas> TheMaestro: usplash is installed by default in ubuntu
[15:25] <elcreaturenex> hello everyone
[15:25] <SherlawkDragon> LjL> yeah, well, things are acting up.  It's just a game ROM anyway, I don't care how unsecure it is...
[15:25] <TheMaestro> savvas, how does it compare to splashy?
[15:25] <TheMaestro> i mean is it good/stable?
[15:26] <Hasnain>  I need to know how I can set timer on kubuntu to get it shutdown after couple of hours ?
[15:26] <bill_hilly> oCean_, i've upgraded - i'm actually running 8.04 on my dell, but the box i use the most is a toshiba, and as i said, the new kernels for 7.10 make my toshiba do wierd things
[15:26] <oCean_> bill_hilly: I get it
[15:26] <ed1t> how can i give access to a folder to all the users in group called developers?
[15:26] <ed1t> read/write access
[15:27] <n2diy> Hasnain: shutdown -h XXX, where x is the number of minutes to wait
[15:27] <ed1t> i did chgrp -R developers folder
[15:27] <mint3> !jaunty
[15:27] <ed1t> but i cant edit the files inside
[15:27] <cooldduuudde> Hasnain: you could also use gshutdown if you want to do it graphically
[15:27] <bill_hilly> oCean_, actually, I'm pretty sure it was 2.6.22 that caused the problems, but I may use the kernel, get the headers and then revert
[15:27] <Hasnain> n2diy: that means I can set timer in minutes not in hours ?
[15:27] <grawity> ed1t: chmod -R g+rw folder
[15:28] <elcreaturenex> i just installed Ubuntu for the first time, and everything went according to plan saw the install screen, pick a sn password and after the intial restart the screen either goes black or black with a white arrow. What is wrong and how can I fix it?
[15:28] <Hasnain> alrite cooldduuudde I'll see that also thx ... :)
[15:28] <n2diy> Hasnain: 120 would give you two hours.
[15:28] <cooldduuudde> Hasnain: you're welcome :)
[15:28] <Hasnain> ok thx yew both n2diy & cooldduuudde, I'll check that both things :)
[15:28] <oded> some one can help me?
[15:28] <bill_hilly> oCean_, think I'll try that and see what happens. Anyway, thanks for the help. I may be back!
[15:28] <ed1t> grawity: when i do ls -l inside the folder, it says root developers
[15:29] <oCean_> bill_hilly: good luck
[15:29] <bill_hilly> oCean_, thanks. Later.
[15:29] <grawity> ed1t: I know. You also need to give permissions.
[15:29] <ed1t> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root developers 2874 2009-03-29 09:45 settings.py
[15:29] <nathan7> ed1t: chmod +x
[15:29] <nathan7> ed1t: (execution permission)
[15:29] <rexim> chown chgrp?
 i dnt have ubuntu, im a xubuntu user
[15:31] <manbue32254325> hello
[15:31] <JeppeM> hey guys :) I did something stupid, which i hope someone here can help me with... I accidentally deleted my 8.10 /boot partition, which means that my vmlinuz etc files are gone... Is there anyway to re-generete those files i need to boot into the 8.10 installation?
[15:31] <Iceman_B^Ltop> is a "sudo shutdown now" enough to shut down my machine ?
[15:31] <LjL> Iceman_B^Ltop: it's sudo shutdown -h now
[15:31] <grawity> gearsecond: Btw, try this. On Xchat, type coold, then press Tab.
[15:31] <LjL> Iceman_B^Ltop: (or you can just use sudo halt)
[15:31] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh >_<
[15:31] <n2diy> Iceman_B^Ltop: yes
[15:32] <gearsecond> cooldduuudde,
[15:32] <n2diy> Iceman_B^Ltop: no, sorry, shutdown -h now
[15:32] <gearsecond> oh great it works
[15:32] <LjL> JeppeM: ugh, that's not good. you can boot from a live cd while telling it to use your disk as root, then reinstall linux and grub... but the specifics are a bit too involved for me to remember them without actually trying it
[15:32] <rexim> Iceman_B^Ltop: sudo halt also
[15:32] <cooldduuudde> gearsecond: uh. oh. k
[15:32] <Downing> Isn't 50 - 51 Hz refresh rate too low?
[15:32] <LjL> JeppeM: the live cd also has a recovery mode - don't know how useful it will be in your case (i've never used it, it's a new thing), but perhaps you could try
[15:33] <JeppeM> LjL, what if i install 8.10 on a new partition, and then use
[15:33] <JeppeM> and then copy the zmlinuz files etc?
[15:33] <JeppeM> *
[15:33] <JeppeM> vmlinuz*
[15:33] <AaronMT> Anyone using VLC 0.9.8 and have a weird problem where video is displayed in a seperate output window?
[15:33] <gearsecond> cooldduuudde: i said that im not a ubuntu user iuse xubuntu 8.10
[15:33] <gearsecond> so how can i activate wooble windows
[15:33] <LjL> JeppeM: will probably not work because grub will have the wrong partitions listed in menu.lst
[15:34] <cooldduuudde> gearsecond: yeah i know. I'm looking for it
[15:34] <cbone> G'day everyone.....could someone recommend a GOOD step by step that works for installing "Barry" ?
[15:34] <n2diy> ! Barry
[15:34] <LjL> cbone: what's barry?
[15:34] <cooldduuudde> gearsecond: this will solve your problem : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203877
 a blackerry syncing tool
[15:35] <JeppeM> i can edit the grub menu without a problem LjL, but i need the abi-, config-, initrd, System.map, vmcore and vmlinuz files
[15:36] <LjL> JeppeM: well i think you could obtain them by installing them from within a live cd, no need for a new partition
[15:36] <LjL> JeppeM: at least, it's worth a try
[15:37] <JeppeM> LjL, i'll give it a try then :) At least this teaches me not to mess with partitions without being 100% sure they're backed up :D
[15:37] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, this may be a bit far fetched ... boot from a liveCD, create a new /boot part, mount his normal root stuff and so on there with the proper stuff and copy over the liveCD's boot, then use apt to reinstall grub and the kernel?
[15:37] <LjL> cbone: http://www.netdirect.ca/software/packages/barry/index.php (the home page) offers an ubuntu package
[15:37] <kraut> moin
Thank you
[15:38] <LjL> s3r3n1t7: actually i was thinking he could just boot straight to his root partition using the live cd's kernel
[15:38] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, hmm that might work, but it might be a bit hard work to get the liveCD to recognize his root partition
[15:38] <JeppeM> sounds like i need the livecd no matter what :D Will download it now... My old copy is at work :P
[15:38] <holzmodem> hi, i try to push a patched kernel into a team ppa, could someone help me, or is there a packaging / launchpad irc available?
[15:38] <LjL> s3r3n1t7: you don't need to make it *recognize* it, you just input it manually in the ISOLinux prompt
[15:39] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, yeah my wording was off
[15:39] <LjL> cbone: basically you should add the line "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/doctormo/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main" to your /etc/apt/sources.list file, then issue a "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get install barry"
[15:40] <Shadycuz> Is this where I can ask for help?
[15:40] <Daremo> hello :)
[15:40] <Shadycuz> hi =)
[15:40] <oCean_> Shadycuz: if it's ubuntu related, yes
[15:40] <Daremo> anyone here good at xorg 7.4 confis?
[15:40] <Daremo> configs that is :)
[15:41] <debaser> hi
[15:41] <Shadycuz> Well I'm having problems installing ubuntu
[15:41] <Daremo> what kind of problems?
[15:41] <Ropechoborra> Shadycuz, Maybe we could help :)
[15:41] <LjL> JeppeM (s3r3n1t7): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions has a brief introduction on changing boot options from the live cd. follow it, and add "root=/dev/your-root-partition" to the line. i *think* that should make it boot your system, again, it's worth a try
[15:41] <Shadycuz> My problem is my partions on my HD is not being seen.
[15:41] <Daremo> laptop or desktop machine?
[15:41] <Shadycuz> desktop
[15:41] <Daremo> sata?
[15:41] <Shadycuz> nope IDE
[15:42] <oCean_> !who | Daremo
[15:42] <Shadycuz> but it has both
[15:42] <debaser> how can I split a pdf file in ubuntu based on his index?
[15:42] <JeppeM> LjL, we agree that it's a bit too risky for me to just forget about my old 8.10 installation and just use 9.04 beta from now on, right? If it had been a final release it wouldnt matter, but for now, it's a bit too risky, right?
[15:42] <Daremo> sorry :) thanks Ocean used to a friendly IRC chann where everyone knows everyone
[15:42] <LjL> JeppeM: it's not recommended for a production system...
[15:42] <oCean_> Daremo: np.
 Thank you VERY much
[15:43] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, i'm thinking you are right in what you said. I think that should work, the kernel should recognize that partition as root then.
[15:43] <JeppeM> LjL, thanks for your help, i'll give the livecd a shot...
[15:43] <Daremo> shadycuz so you run the cd and you when you run diskmanagement (cant remember the exact name) it finds no hard drives?
[15:43] <Shadycuz> So I can't see my partions when I install, I cant run qtparted because it errors out saying partions are out side of disk
[15:44] <Shadycuz> I cant fdisk -l /dev/hda because it says cant read disk
[15:44] <Daremo> shadycuz dual boot machine?
[15:44] <Shadycuz> yes
[15:44] <Daremo> shady so stuff you care about on there then and you cant reformat then i assume
[15:44] <Shadycuz> I can't reformat but It doesn't matter any way I tried reformating multiple times
[15:45] <Shadycuz> Daremo:I can't reformat but It doesn't matter any way I tried reformating multiple times
[15:45] <Daremo> shady hang on looking at something
[15:46] <Shadycuz> Daremo: k
[15:46] <debaser> how can I split a pdf file in ubuntu based on his index?
[15:46] <nathan7> Hmm.
[15:46] <bbelt16ag> hey peeps got a question.
[15:46] <LjL> debaser: i'm not very familiar with pdf files, but isn't an index just a page containing... an index?
[15:46] <bbelt16ag> i am getting problems with my user.
[15:46] <jpo> bbelt16ag: what type of problems?
[15:46] <bbelt16ag> when i try to start a process with my user i get a  cannot fork process.
[15:47] <bbelt16ag> now that imade  another user it works fine..
[15:47] <letubenaiah> debaser: PDF Split and Merge http://www.pdfsam.org/
[15:47] <LjL> bbelt16ag: do you have many processes running? (ps aux | wc -l    will tell you)
[15:47] <metalfan_> ive activated orca (input help) accidently, theres no entry for it below "sessions"  where do i get rid of it?
[15:47] <JeppeM> whats the latest kernel in 8.10? 2.6.27-??
[15:47] <bbelt16ag> i tried multi oses with this i installed  testing and  stable debian and now ubuntu
[15:47] <LjL> !info linux-image | JeppeM
[15:47] <bbelt16ag> 140
[15:47] <braddcadd> how do i install py2exe, extract the zip file somewhere?
[15:48] <imachine> Hi,
[15:48] <bbelt16ag> so i am thinking its a config in my /home that i saved.
[15:48] <JeppeM> ah, perfect :D thanks LjL
[15:48] <Daremo> shady when you boot up on the cd have you run gparted instead of going to the install?
[15:48] <imachine> has anyone experienced weird sound issues with 9.04?
[15:48] <LjL> braddcadd: isn't that a Windows program?
[15:48] <imachine> I have it click an clash sometimes.
[15:48] <imachine> (video, flash, audio)
[15:48] <nathan7> braddcadd: Py2Exe is for windows.
[15:48] <Shadycuz> yes, not on ubuntu live cd but on another one
[15:48] <Shadycuz> it errors out also
[15:48] <gearsecond_> im having problems with the Terminal
[15:48] <bbelt16ag> any ideas where to start?
[15:48] <imachine> I think it's to do with pulseaudio
[15:48] <LjL> JeppeM: don't worry if your live CD has a different revision
[15:48] <LjL> JeppeM: it shouldn't case problems i think
[15:48] <gearsecond_> it saya that dkpg is not working correctly
[15:48] <braddcadd> that explains why there are no install instructions for ubuntu
[15:49] <imachine> gearsecond_, details.
[15:49] <debaser> letubenaiah: do you know hay to use it?, I am using it and chose split "by bookmark level" but I don't know if that's what I want nor what the six numbers in there represent (its a 700MB pdf file so I don't want to just try out)
[15:49] <LjL> JeppeM: you will have to reinstall your kernel when in the live cd anyway
[15:49] <braddcadd> nathan7, is there a way to create an exe from ubuntu (I don't have any windows in my house)
[15:49] <gearsecond_> what shoould i do? i cant download softwares with terminal now
[15:49] <gearsecond_> what should i do?
[15:49] <gearsecond_> imachine what is details?
[15:49] <nathan7> braddcadd: Nope.
[15:49] <ChrizC> gearsecond_: Synaptic package manager?
[15:49] <LjL> braddcadd: py2exe might work in WINE. but of course the exec you create will be a Windows program.
[15:49] <keatliang2005> wget <urlink>
[15:49] <minhcop> aloo
[15:50] <nathan7> LjL: Nope it doesn't.
[15:50] <LjL> nathan7: ok
[15:50] <Shadycuz> Daremo: when I run gparted in ubuntu is say's No devices detected.
[15:50] <braddcadd> LjL, thanks i'll give that a try
[15:50] <nathan7> LjL: It produces invalid PE files.
[15:50] <gearsecond_> no but iwant to repair my terminal, cuz it says: dpkg was interrupted, you should open dkg manually
[15:50] <LjL> gearsecond_: please pastebin the exact errors that it gives
[15:51] <ChrizC> gearsecond_; try using sudo apt-get install, for your software installations
[15:51] <cbone> LjL: hope two lines is ok: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 15A579BF113659DF
[15:51] <nathan7> gearsecond_: It gives you the command to fix it.
[15:51] <JeppeM> kk LjL...
[15:51] <Daremo> shady do you have some sort of unusual hardware config?
[15:51] <gearsecond_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[15:51] <Shadycuz> Daremo: when I run gparted in ubuntu is say's No devices detected.
[15:51] <imachine> gearsecond_, so run it
[15:51] <Shadycuz> Daremo: no i dont think so
[15:51] <LjL> cbone: yes, it just means it doesn't know about the repository. it's warning you that it might not be a "trusted" repository, as it's not an official one
[15:51] <Daremo> shady hmmm
[15:51] <LjL> !gpgerr > cbone    (cbone, see the private message from ubottu)
[15:51] <gearsecond_> yes i typed the command and it givesme a number of options
[15:51] <nathan7> gearsecond_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:52] <gearsecond_> i dont know which to chose
[15:52] <imachine> such as
[15:52] <Shadycuz> Daremo: just a regular desktop
[15:52]  * jpo more knowledgable foks are being transferred from ##linux to here for more help and support
[15:52] <imachine> gearsecond_, usually, you just choose the defaults by pressing 'etner'
[15:52] <LjL> gearsecond_: pastebin them. we aren't mind readers.
[15:52] <imachine> s/etner/enter
[15:52] <Shadycuz> Daremo: what is weird is when i boot windows I can open partition magic and look at all partions
[15:52] <imachine> unless youve changed some system files manually, but you if you did, I reckon you wouldn't ask these questionns.
[15:53] <letubenaiah> debaser: I've never used it to do split at bookmarks, so I'm not sure how that works.  but it doesn't over-write the old file when splitting it just creates the new ones as well.
[15:53] <imachine> hence, I guess defaults are good for you.
[15:53] <gearsecond_> Use `dselect' o `aptitude' para una gestión más amigable de los paquetes;
[15:53] <gearsecond_> Escriba dpkg -Dhelp para una lista de los valores de depuración de dpkg;
[15:53] <gearsecond_> Escriba dpkg --force-help para una lista de opciones para forzar cosas;
[15:53] <gearsecond_> Escriba dpkg-deb --help para obtener ayuda sobre manipulación de archivos .deb;
[15:53] <gearsecond_> Escriba dpkg --license para ver la licencia (GPL de GNU), el copyright y la
[15:53] <gearsecond_> ausencia de garantía [*].
[15:53] <FloodBot1> gearsecond_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:53] <braddcadd> LjL, does py2exe create a huge file?
[15:53] <Deevz> I want to downsize my windows part to make space for ubuntu... should I defrag first or does it not matter?
[15:53] <LjL> PASTEBIN
[15:53] <LjL> braddcadd: i have no idea, but note thatn nathan7 said that it does NOT work in wine
[15:53]  * imachine smacks gearsecond_ about
[15:53] <Shadycuz> defrag i herd...
[15:53] <imachine> gearsecond_, you've just gone to neutral
[15:53] <debaser> letubenuaiah: well I guess I'll just have to try... thx
[15:53] <LjL> gearsecond_: what have you typed?
[15:53] <gearsecond_> what imachine?
[15:53] <Shadycuz> but im no expert
[15:53] <LjL> you haven't typed what you were told to type, gearsecond_
[15:53] <Shadycuz> Daremo: what is weird is when i boot windows I can open partition magic and look at all partions
[15:53] <Ryan_Leaf> Deevz: It's unnecessary, but you should defrag after you resize the partition.
[15:54] <Xero> hi, i downloaded a set of 200 pdfs. PDFSAM works great to merge the first 100, but the last 100 are "locked" even though they're free to use. how would i merge these?
[15:54] <imachine> LjL, hats off for the calm approach
[15:54] <Daremo> shadycuz: its the same drive though right?
[15:54] <Shadycuz> yep
[15:54] <Ryan_Leaf> Deevz: You do not have to use Partition Magic to resize your partition, if you're going to install Linux. Just use the built-in partition manager with the Ubuntu disc
[15:54] <memphis> hello
[15:54] <Shadycuz> I am using a 160gig raptor
[15:54] <imachine> LjL, once you're done here maybe you'll lend me a hand to sort out the audio issue/qt issue.
[15:54] <Shadycuz> ide
[15:55] <Ryan_Leaf> Shadycuz: I thought they didn't sell them in IDE?
[15:55] <gearsecond_> gearsecond@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install compiz
[15:55] <gearsecond_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[15:55] <LjL> imachine: i'm a Kubuntu user with KDE 3.5, i doubt i can be of much help there...
[15:55] <gearsecond_> i wanted to install compiz but it said that
[15:55] <LjL> gearsecond_: that is NOT what you were told to type.
[15:55] <Shadycuz> ryan, I have one so they must
[15:55] <LjL> gearsecond_: you were told to type "sudo dpkg --configure -a", so please type THAT
[15:55] <saurabh1403> hello everyone....Has anyone else also faced the problem in firefox 3.0.x version on ubuntu
[15:56] <gearsecond_> LjL what should i type then?
[15:56] <bbelt16ag> so no ideas on what could be my problem ?
[15:56] <imachine> LjL, okay,
[15:56] <bing> help, this fails: apt-get source epiphany-browser && apt-get build-dep epiphany-browser  && ./configure && make && make install && /usr/bin/epiphany-browser
[15:56] <saurabh1403> firefox 3.0.x is not working...no add ons and nothing is working on my ubuntu 8.04
[15:56] <LjL> bing: that's not the proper way to build a package
[15:56] <bing> LjL: i guess i'll just go grab upstream then
[15:56] <imachine> LjL, I got 9.04 now. and had some sound issues with pulseaudio. and another one is taht since 4.5.0, qt mimics gtk very well. only, it seems to fail with dpi. but only on my old configs, whenever I create a new user, the issue goes to /dev/null
[15:56] <braddcadd> how do i make a "filename.py" file execute by just typing "filename"
[15:56] <Ndem1> hello guys can any one help here?
[15:56] <Daremo> Shady, i found this that might be related
[15:56] <Daremo> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097121.0
[15:57] <imachine> LjL, so ultimately I'm wondering, which files could interact with the way it works.
[15:57] <keatliang2005> sudo apt-get source epiphany-browser && apt-get build-dep epiphany-browser  && ./configure && make && make install && /usr/bin/epiphany-browser
[15:57] <Shadycuz> Ryan_leaf your are right, it's not raptor lol its baracudda
[15:57] <imachine> something about dpi or whatver...
[15:57] <imachine> :
[15:57] <LjL> bing: you can build it by doing: sudo apt-get build-dep epiphany-browser ; apt-get --build source epiphany-browser
[15:57] <Shadycuz> Daremo: my HD isbaracuda not raptor
[15:57] <Xero> how would i merge many "locked" (but free to use) PDF files?
[15:57] <bad> hello evry bady, someone can help me to get my modem soy ericsson work in ubuntu
[15:57] <regjava> How do i check the version of the ubuntu from the ISO?
[15:57] <bing> LjL: that doesn't build my changes
[15:57] <LjL> imachine: i have no idea but you should ask in #ubuntu+1, that's the 9.04 channel
[15:58] <Ndem1> i've the ubuntu interpid and when i try to play video using the firefox browser and i get no sound.
[15:58] <braddcadd> regjava, are running ubuntu from the ISO?
[15:58] <Ryan_Leaf> Shadycuz: I haven't heard of those for a while. Aren't the Caviar newer?
[15:58] <bad> it's a sony ericsson md 300
[15:58] <LjL> bing: nope, it doesn't - you never said you made any changes, so i didn't know.
[15:58] <gearsecond_> what is deselect or atitude?
[15:58] <Daremo> Shady, i am more interested in the settings they mention in that post than the actual drive manf.
[15:58] <bing> LjL: my mistake!  i'll use upstream
[15:58] <Daremo> shady have you tried playing with the bios settings to see if it makes a diff?
[15:58] <LjL> bing: you don't have to use upstream.-
[15:58] <regjava> I am unable to connect to the wifi from the live installation of ubuntu
[15:58] <Shadycuz> Daremo: okay let me read the post and get, no i have not changed bios settings
[15:59] <LjL> bing: you can build the package fine - you're just doing it in the wrong way.
[15:59] <regjava> it does not conect, but it finds the wifi network
[15:59] <gearsecond_> can anybody help me to fix my terminal, it doesnt work
[15:59] <LjL> bing: you can use "debuild", or, wait, i never remember
[15:59] <bing> LjL: i dunno, i follow the instructions in the README, and then I also read the README.Debian...
[15:59] <Ryan_Leaf> Quick Question: Do most (or all) nVidia cards work correctly under Ubuntu?
[15:59] <Daremo> does anyone know how to add a 2nd video card to xorg 7.4?
[15:59] <GaveUp> trying to boot the livecd/install ubuntu is hanging on loading hardware.  It appears to be loading the bttv module that is causing the hang.  I realize I could remove the card and probably get things to work but is there a way to skip this module from grub options so I don't have to open the pc up?
[15:59] <LjL> bing: README.Debian won't contain package building instructions, because those are the same for every single package
[16:00] <JeppeM> LjL, since i just deleted the partition, but i havent overwritten it with anything, do you think it would be possible to restore the files on the deleted partition?
[16:00] <Daremo> Ryan, most nVidias work from the research i have done. I just bought a 9400 that im going to install as soon as I get my PCIe extender
[16:00] <LjL> bing: ok, one way is: "cd" to the package's directory first, then "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b"
[16:00] <Xero> one last time before i post on forums. how could i merge many "locked" (but free to use) PDF files?
[16:01] <gearsecond_> LjL: what should i do to fix the dpkg?
[16:01] <Shadycuz> Daremo: I'm rebooting machine, ill try changing to AHCpi
[16:01] <fanche> cw=Z]Pb?xQ.M7PLOp
[16:01] <Daremo> shadycuz ok good luck!
[16:01] <fanche> cw=Z]N3R7MmPTL[Q~McR0MzPaNaP[
[16:01] <fanche> cw=Z]P/>^R}O5
[16:01] <fanche> cw=Z]NKPoNhSTN1PmL&StN)Qe
[16:01] <LjL> gearsecond_: you've STILL not pastebinned the output of the command i told you to run
[16:01] <FloodBot1> fanche: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:01] <fanche> cw=Z]QAMlPSN[PkNoR3D@
[16:01] <Roland-> hello
[16:01] <Roland-> I have last message repeated 2 times in syslog, can I disable that? to show all messages even if they repeat?
[16:01] <gearsecond_> but its in spanish
[16:01] <bing> LjL: one of the debian patches fails to apply, so the dpkg-buildpackage program bails
[16:01] <gearsecond_> do you want to send me this in spanish?
[16:02] <LjL> fanche: ?
[16:02] <regjava> I am unable to connect to the wireless networ from the live setup
[16:02] <regjava> the security is wpa-personal
[16:02] <LjL> bing: are you on what, intrepid?
[16:02] <fanche> cw=Z]PRH,PZDaPAOE
[16:03] <Daremo> Any XOrg experts or semi-experts around ? :)
[16:03] <reddos> come si fa x entrare in quello italiano
[16:03] <bing> LjL: yeah, intrepid.  i'll try again without running ./autogen.sh
[16:03] <LjL> !it | reddos
[16:03] <Shadycuz> Daremo: Machine is booting up now, I'll know in the next couple of mins
[16:03] <reddos> grazie
[16:03] <LjL> bing: the debian patch may fail to apply because of the modifications you made, i can only imagine... it's probably seeing that one of the files it needs modified is not what it's supposed to be
[16:04] <Daremo> oCean_, thanks!
[16:04] <Spectre> hi, do you know any application to test microphone? (some record and test to play)
[16:04] <bing> LjL: yeah it failed on an "autoreconf" patch that wanted to be applied, so it make sense that it was ./autogen related
[16:05] <bing> LjL: bah, that didn't work either
[16:07] <Daremo> Shadycuz, if that works, it looks like there is a solution to fix the xp boot as well so you constantly dont have to change settings in bios
[16:07] <Spectre> hi, do you know any application to test microphone? (some record and test to play)
[16:07] <LjL> bing: the patches related stuff starts to be a bit outside the boundaries of my knowledge
[16:07] <LjL> bing: have you checked the packaging guide? (although it's long and painful to read)
[16:07] <Luz> ciao
[16:07] <cooldduuudde> Spectre: sound recorder
[16:07] <Luz> !list
[16:07] <Spectre> I found krec, ok
[16:08] <jpo> Spectre: you can even use skype for that
[16:08] <jpo> i mean if you don't want the pain of it
[16:09] <cooldduuudde> jpo: using skype would also involve configuring it to suit the sound settings
[16:09] <jpo> yep
[16:09] <kneeki> Anyone happen to have a copy of gHamachi_0.8.1.tar.gz ? the mirror is down. #hamachi gave nothing =(
[16:09] <Spectre> My microphone doesn't work omg...
[16:09] <Spectre> may I add doesn't work in linuxu
[16:09] <magnetron> kneeki→ google cache!
[16:09] <dougl> I am running 8.04 and recently updates applied included firefox = now firefox crashes everytime I launch it with some sort of java error that flashes too fast to read - anyone experience this or have any suggestions?
[16:10] <cooldduuudde> Spectre: may be you could see kmix to adjust some settings and try again
[16:10] <dmizer> i cannot get a single iso to burn correctly. i've tried burning on 3 different computers, i've tried brasero, gnome toaster, and nautilus ... none of them get a good burn on any iso. all iso files pass md5 sums.
[16:11] <Spectre> cooldduuudde: I turned on everything there in mic, but still nothing
[16:11] <airtonix> hiya, why does nautilus keep asking for password authentication to a guest windows share?
[16:12] <cooldduuudde> Spectre: you may try googling your way around :)
[16:12] <dougl> the error I get when lauching firefox = 'Error launching browser window:no XBL binding for browser' in a window titled 'JavaScript Application' - any suggestions?
[16:12] <chotaz> Is there a way to use 4GM of ram on 32bits?
[16:13] <Spectre> cooldduuudde: Everyone has different cards, I don't have all day to solve :?
[16:13] <Spectre> :/
[16:13] <istvan> I am installing ubuntu, and having this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766863  -- i get this with all flavors of ubuntu. what is the solution?
[16:13] <dmizer> chotaz, you can use up to 4gig only. 32 bit is incapable of addressing memory beyond that size.
[16:13] <bing> LjL: i've asked on answers.launchpad.net
[16:13] <gcleric> @chotaz 4gb is the max that a 32bit system can use.
[16:14] <cooldduuudde> Spectre: i got my realtek card on desktop working just fine. my laptop card doesn't work well. and i have no idea what to do about it myself
[16:14] <chotaz> dmizer: atm I'm at 4GB of ram how can I know if I'm using all the 4GB?
[16:14] <chotaz> !spanish
[16:14] <dmizer> chotaz, at the cli, type the command: free
[16:14] <fbc> now that /etc/inittab has been eliminated how to I reduce the number of terms?
[16:15] <Shadycuz> Daremo: still here?
[16:15] <chotaz> dmizer: cli?(sorry my first ubuntu install is 3 days old =\)
[16:15] <Ryan_Leaf> chotaz: No, you cannot use 4GB of memory with a 32bit O/S. You will only be able to use about 3.1-3.5
[16:15] <Ryan_Leaf> GB of RAM
[16:15] <Daremo> Shadycuz, yes what happened?
[16:15] <Shadycuz> Daremo: I tried to different distro's and it's a no go
[16:15] <dmizer> chotaz: click programs > accessories > terminal ... then type "free" and hit enter
[16:15] <Shadycuz> Daremo: still get the same error in qtparted
[16:16] <Daremo> Shadycuz, any chance your cd is a bad image?
[16:16] <Shadycuz> Daremo: Critical error during ped_disk_new
[16:16] <Shadycuz> Daremo: nope the images are good, 2 different ones
[16:16] <Shadycuz> burned at 4x
[16:16] <Shadycuz> I could run the check if you want
[16:16] <huh-what> isn't this a bit strange; I install the propertiary nvidia driver (via the gnome driver interface), but when I reboot (and gdm or something I guess is trying to start up) the computer goes into a black screen and then the pc speaker starts beeping. Any idea what might be wrong?
[16:16] <Shadycuz> I'm going to try different ide settings
[16:16] <chotaz> total mem: 3370864
[16:17] <airtonix> hiya, why does nautilus keep asking for password authentication to a guest windows share?
[16:17] <Shadycuz> Daremo: could you look at that qtparted error for me?
[16:17] <mxboy15u> I am a ubuntu newb with a problem, can anyone help me?
[16:17] <deany> Any reason I`d have exim installed and MTA service enabled when I know ive not installed myself..  Is there some package that needs it
[16:17] <Daremo> Shadycuz, i am :)
[16:17] <Shadycuz> cant have partion out side of disk, and critical error ped disk new
[16:17] <istvan> anyone know the answer to my grub problem?
[16:17] <dmizer> i cannot get a single iso to burn correctly. i've tried burning on 3 different computers, i've tried brasero, gnome toaster, and nautilus ... none of them get a good burn on any iso. all iso files pass md5 sums. how can i get a successful burn?
[16:17] <PhotoJim> airtonix: unless yor local username/password match the remote username/password, that's normal using either Linux or Windows at the local end.
[16:17] <Spectre> I have realtek also...
[16:18] <mxboy15u> I am having a problem with the internet slowing down and then dropping offline then coming back
[16:18] <kneeki> magnetron: Do you use it like: 'cache: gHamachi_0.8.1.tar.gz' ?
[16:18] <Spectre> I hope I don't have to reboot after setting up microphone
[16:18] <cooldduuudde> Spectre: realtek works along with 5.1 on my rig :D
[16:18] <Daremo>  Shadycuz did you click next even after getting the error?
[16:18] <airtonix> PhotoJim, the windows machine in question can connect to my (ubuntu intrepid) machine without login authentication
[16:18] <Ryan_Leaf> mxboy15u: Just try rebooting the network equipment.
[16:18] <PhotoJim> airtonix: can connect in what sense?
[16:19] <Shadycuz> Daremo: trying that now
[16:19] <dmizer> chotaz, that looks about right for 4gig of ram.
[16:19] <Shadycuz> Daremo: but i have in the past and it didnt show any tables
[16:19] <airtonix> PhotoJim, from the windows machine : open explorer : type : //ip-address/share-name, connects, no request for authentication
[16:19] <chotaz> dmizer: strange is that I'm using 2,9GB with just 2 desktop, xchat,pidgin and teamspeak running =\
[16:20] <Daremo> Shadycuz, k, i asked cause looks like your problem is similar to this.. http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6002.0  but im still looking at things
[16:20] <mxboy15u> i sent you a message ryan_leaf
[16:20] <airtonix> PhotoJim, the reverse, as in trying to connect to a guest share that has no password,, from ubuntu to the windows machine keeps requesting a pasword
[16:20] <dmizer> chotaz: some of that may be reserved for video, and some may be used for swap.
[16:20] <PhotoJim> airtonix: Linux SMB (Windows file sharing) username/passwords can be different from the local system username/password combination.  that could be the issue.  Samba (the Windows networking suite on Linux) lets you set up separate passwords from the system.  so if the Samba passwords match the Windows box, but not the local Linux system passwords, that could be the case.
[16:20] <Shadycuz> Daremo: it's not showing anything after clicking next
[16:21] <dmizer> chotaz, linux makes use of your ram more efficiently, so it will appear to use more.
[16:21] <Daremo> unmount the drive
[16:21] <Ryan_Leaf> Resend the message
[16:21] <mib_nfavum> right im going to try for the last time. Otherwise looks like im screwed. If anyone here knows how to get me on the internet using kubuntu/ubuntu please pm me the steps of doing this. i am quit thick and have been tring for days. im actually starting to get pissed of thanks in advance.
[16:21] <chotaz> dmizer: thanks, yeah buffers and cache are using about 3.7GB
[16:21] <chotaz> 2.7
[16:21] <mib_nfavum> right im going to try for the last time. Otherwise looks like im screwed. If anyone here knows how to get me on the internet using kubuntu/ubuntu please pm me the steps of doing this. i am quit thick and have been tring for days. im actually starting to get pissed of thanks in advance. also i use wireless internet :)
[16:21] <mustu> Why Ubuntu doesn't offer Package Selection during installation? it irritates getting Gnome all the time....that's not justice.. they should respect all the users e.g KDE users..
[16:21] <Shadycuz> Daremo: umount /dev/hda returns, not mounted
[16:22] <dmizer> i cannot get a single iso to burn correctly. i've tried burning on 3 different computers, i've tried brasero, gnome toaster, and nautilus ... none of them get a good burn on any iso. all iso files pass md5 sums. how can i get a successful burn?
[16:22] <jrib> !minimal | mustu
[16:22] <PhotoJim> mib_nfavum: try wire, see if it works.  if so you know it's a wifi issue.
[16:22] <Daremo> Shadycuz, lolz... figures.. ok hang on
[16:22] <jrib> mustu: and kubuntu is ubuntu with kde by default
[16:22] <mib_nfavum> PhotoJim:  i cant im upstairs
[16:22] <Shadycuz> Daremo: in qtparted when I click the disk, in the shell the error reads cant have partitions out side of disk
[16:22] <fbc-mx> Where do you trim the extra terminals that start up?
[16:22] <mib_nfavum> the router is downstairs
[16:22] <nathan7> Jampiter: KUBUNTU FTW!
[16:22] <airtonix> PhotoJim, im not using my local username password to connect to the windows share. it has guest account access with the guest account being called 'guest' with no password. and when requested to enter a password upong attempting smb access to the windows machine it keeps saying authentication failed when i provide the username : guest, password : none
[16:22] <nathan7> =p
[16:22] <mib_nfavum> ;\
[16:22] <PhotoJim> dmizer: is your media crap?  that could do it.
[16:22] <axoin> Where do I have to add modules which should be unloaded before suspend?
[16:22] <nathan7> airtonix: A real account?
[16:23] <dmizer> PhotoJim, i've also tried different media.
[16:23] <PhotoJim> mib_nfavum: then there are too many possibilities.  take your machine downstairs, plug it into a jack, and see what happens.  the information you get will significantly reduce the time and effort to debug your problem.
[16:23] <nathan7> airtonix: On Linux accounts without a passwords are locked.
[16:23] <airtonix> nathan7, on the windows machines : guest account enabled. no password set. share is given guest account access in 'sharing and security'
[16:23] <Ryan_Leaf> Whoever sent me that personal message, will have to resend it.
[16:23] <PhotoJim> airtonix: I've not set up guest access on Samba, so you've just exceeded my knowledge.  I always use usernames and passwords.
[16:23] <mib_nfavum> ok PhotoJim  ty
[16:23] <Ryan_Leaf> I am now in xchat
[16:23] <PhotoJim> mib_nfavum: np.  it's a bother but it's worth the effort.
[16:23] <airtonix> PhotoJim, you misunderstand me
[16:24] <airtonix> PhotoJim, i am not trying to connect to a linux machine running a samba server
[16:24] <nathan7> airtonix: Hmm.
[16:24] <PhotoJim> dmizer: not sure.  if you've tried multiple burners and multiple media on multiple systems, the common denominator seems to be your .iso.
[16:24] <mustu> well thanx
[16:24] <mustu> to let me know that :)
[16:24] <airtonix> nathan7, PhotoJim, i am trying to connect to a windows xp machine that is sharing out a folder
[16:24] <dmizer> PhotoJim, multiple iso too which all pass md5 sums.
[16:24] <PhotoJim> airtonix: if you're connecting from a Windows machine to a Linux box for the purpose of file sharing, Samba is the way it's done.    if not that, what are you doing?
[16:25] <PhotoJim> dmizer: clearly you aren't meant to own computers.  I suggest paper and pencil. :)  (kidding.)  No idea.  Very weird.  Same burning software?  Maybe you should try a different program.
[16:25] <airtonix> PhotoJim, from  = linux ubuntu intrepid. to = windows xp sp2
[16:25] <bedo2991> !italian
[16:25] <PhotoJim> airtonix: From = server, to = client?
[16:25] <daftykins> airtonix, do you have the package "smbfs" installed?
[16:26] <dougl> !piglatin
[16:26] <usser> he doesnt need smbfs
[16:26] <dmizer> PhotoJim, i've tried the nautilus utility, i've tried brasero, and i've tried gnome toaster.
[16:26] <nathan7> PhotoJim: I have the same problem. My CD drive is simple broken.
[16:26] <daftykins> i do to connect to my CIFS mounts.
[16:26] <airtonix> PhotoJim, no my machine is ubuntu intrepid. the machine i am trying to connect to is a windows xp machine
[16:26] <nathan7> dmizer: I suggest getting a new drive.
[16:26] <mib_nfavum> PhotoJim:  if i connect it using the cable will it be easyier to config wlan0 after?
[16:26] <nathan7> mib_nfavum: Yes.
[16:26] <usser> daftykins, smbfs is only to mount the remote shares
[16:26] <dmizer> nathan7, on all three of my computers?
[16:26] <level09> is it possible that tar -vczf messes the encoding of the files ?
[16:26] <airtonix> daftykins, checking, brb
[16:26] <nathan7> dmizer: =O
[16:26] <nathan7> dmizer: Try a different disk.
[16:27] <nathan7> dmizer: And are you sure it's not a DVD?
[16:27] <mib_nfavum> ok cheers nathan7 =]
[16:27] <airtonix> daftykins, yes it is installed
[16:27] <PhotoJim> mib_nfavum: not easier.  but you'll establish that everything else is working.  and if you need to download packages to get your wifi working, you can do it via the wire there.
[16:27] <mib_nfavum> your a real star PhotoJim
[16:27] <usser> airtonix, on the command line, try smbclient //ipoftheserver/sharename -o user=guest
[16:27] <dmizer> nathan7, i've tried different media as well, different isos ... everything sais the iso burns successfuly, but when i do the integrity test, it always fails.
[16:27] <Ryan_Leaf> You know they should really put an eSATA port on ALL laptops, so you can connect a new HD or Optical Drive, if need be.
[16:27] <airtonix> usser, session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED
[16:27] <PhotoJim> nathan7: he's using multiple drives, so that is what is puzzling me.
[16:28] <PhotoJim> dmizer: what if you ignore the integrity test and just try it?
[16:28] <nathan7> PhotoJim: Hmm...
[16:28] <daftykins> Ryan_Leaf, eSATA is very much an unused connection for pretty much everyone right now - USB3 will probably render it pointless
[16:28] <usser> airtonix, how about without -o user=guest is error any different?
[16:28] <dmizer> PhotoJim, install does indeed fail.
[16:28] <nathan7> I guess it's an integrety test bug.
[16:28] <nathan7> Is apt-get hash-checked?
[16:28] <PhotoJim> daftykins: I wouldn't say pointless. eSATA is native SATA.  USB3 adds another layer.  fewer layers = better.
[16:28] <jpds> nathan7: Yes, and GnuPG sigatures too.
[16:29] <Ryan_Leaf> daftykins: But on a laptop, you can have a mobile drive; then when you want to have it run as a desktop, you connect your super-fast SATA hard drive, and you are in business.
[16:29] <airtonix> usser, requests a password for the username i currently am logged in with on this local machine
[16:29] <PhotoJim> dmizer: then you really, really have me puzzled.  if you're desperate I could burn you a disc here and mail it to you and see if that works.  at this point it may be worth a try.
[16:29] <nathan7> jpds: Hmm. Weird.
[16:29] <usser> airtonix, right sorry i messed up the command smbclient //ip/share --user=guest
[16:29] <daftykins> i agree with what you're both saying but sadly idiocy wins over what's technologically superior Ryan_Leaf  + PhotoJim
[16:30] <PhotoJim> daftykins: well, simplicity is good too.  in addition to, not in place of.  ;)
[16:30] <YesWoman> hi, guys I installed LAMP on ubuntu. When i write my server ip in a browser and try to open the index page on another machine i don't get the index page. I get server timed out. I didn't do any configuration to apache. I just downloaded and installed LAMP on Ubuntu and insalled a blog on the server.
[16:30] <daftykins> sounds very idealist ;)
[16:30] <YesWoman> Is there anything that i should configure so i can open my blog?
[16:30] <YesWoman> when i type localhost on my browser on the server machine i can see the blog, but on another machine i can't
[16:30] <txtest> Welcome Mr. President
[16:30] <dmizer> PhotoJim, thanks for the offer ... i do have good isos of dapper and hardy, so i'll try that as a last resort. it occurs to me that the only thing i haven't tried is to perform the integrity check on a different computer.
[16:30] <airtonix> usser,  1st line : Anonymous login successful , 2nd line : Domain=[<WORKGROUP-NAME-HERE>] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager], 3rd line : tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[16:31] <daftykins> YesWoman, sorry for the stupid question but is the IP correct?
[16:31] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: "localhost" only works from the machine itself.  It is the networking equivalent to "me".
[16:31] <YesWoman> daftykins: yeah
[16:31] <Guest25135> hello everyone! windows is the best!!
[16:31] <PhotoJim> dmizer: it's worth a try.  but if you get desperate, /msg me.  I don't mind mailing you a CD.
[16:31] <daftykins> can the other computer ping the LAMP server IP YesWoman ?
[16:31] <Ryan_Leaf> daftykins + PhotoJim: People do not realize that USB really sucks for more than one operation. Even if it was a faster platform, it's still susceptible to conflictions on the bus. If you are trying to print using a USB printer, and writting a file to an external USB drive, while downloading images / video off your camera; you can lock up your system.
[16:31] <Guest25884> Can samone tellme haw to make a scipt witch makes samthing like that when i run it 1 time it runs script a when i run it again it will run script b and when again a??
[16:31] <YesWoman> PhotoJim: i know that, but i said that to let you know that the server is ol
[16:31] <YesWoman> *ok
[16:31] <Ryan_Leaf> But if they were on seperate buses, like FireWire, then you would be all-set
[16:31] <usser> airtonix, ah, you sure the guest account has the corresponding ntfs permissions, there's two sets in windows, one is sharing perm the other is filesystem perm
[16:31] <daftykins> Ryan_Leaf, yes i know, i very much don't like USB
[16:32] <dmizer> PhotoJim, i sincerely appreciate the offer.
[16:32] <usser> airtonix, check FS perm
[16:32] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: ok.  :)  accessing your blog from another machine on the local network, or from remote?
[16:32] <airtonix> usser, on the folder being shared?
[16:32] <usser> airtonix, yes
[16:32] <YesWoman> daftykins: i don't know what you mean, i'm trying to access the blog using my mobile as another machine ;)
[16:32] <airtonix> usser, that it should have the guest account with at least read access?
[16:32] <Guest25135> vista or xp or linux??
[16:32] <PhotoJim> dmizer: not a problem.  you seem to have done a lot of work to figure out your own problem after all. :)
[16:32] <usser> airtonix, thats correct
[16:32] <airtonix> usser, brb
[16:33] <daftykins> your mobile phone YesWoman ? so it's on the wireless and the ubuntu LAMP is on wired?
[16:33] <YesWoman> PhotoJim: i'm trying to access the blog using my mobile as another machine
[16:33] <dmizer> PhotoJim, i tell ya ... it's been a frustrating evening ;)
[16:33] <YesWoman> daftykins: no on GPRS
[16:33] <Guest81118> hi
[16:33] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: your mobile connected to the cellular network?  that's "remote" for this purpose.  if your mobile has wifi and the wifi is connected to your own network, that's "local".
[16:33] <Guest25135> hi
[16:33] <Ryan_Leaf> I wonder what Apple's Marketshare, and Linux's Marketshare will do once support for Windows XP ends?
[16:33] <usser> airtonix, i'll go have a smoke brb
[16:33] <daftykins> YesWoman, your computers IP address won't be reachable from a GPRS connection, because that's on the internet
[16:33] <Ryan_Leaf> Will people upgrade to Windows 7, or will they switch to something else (or not?)
[16:33] <YesWoman> PhotoJim: connected to the cellular network
[16:33] <kneeki> How do i browse the Ubuntu machines on my network? no other PC's are showing up in the 'Network' area
[16:34] <daftykins> YesWoman, if you have a router at home you will need to set up a "port forward" for port 80 to the IP address of your LAMP server
[16:34] <Guest81118> helllo any one listen me
[16:34] <Guest25135> ubuntu is bad software
[16:34] <grawity> Guest25135: ?
[16:34] <grawity> Guest81118: ?
[16:34] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: daftykins has it.  to connect from remote you need to know your blog web server's IP address, and that starts to get to be a complex question.  first of all, how is your blog machine connected to the Internet?
[16:34] <Guest81118> ya i want to join a developer team
[16:35] <Ryan_Leaf> brb
[16:35] <YesWoman> daftykins: i'm doing a stupid test, actually i don't have a router. my server is connected to a dialup internet :) this is stupid i know but i want to try it
[16:35] <daftykins> oh i see
[16:35] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: dialup Internet is going to make it a lot me challenging.  Your IP address (which is the way you get to your computer from outside your network) will change every time you connect.
[16:36] <daftykins> hmm, must be down to firewall'ing PhotoJim ?
[16:36] <YesWoman> PhotoJim: yeah, this is just a test
[16:36] <PhotoJim> daftykins: port 80 could easily be blocked on dialup.  it's not meant to provide outbound services.
[16:36] <daftykins> good point PhotoJim
[16:36] <Roland-> I have last message repeated 2 times in syslog, can I disable that? to show all messages even if they repeat?
[16:36] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: and you know what your IP is remotely?  sounds like it.
[16:36] <daftykins> YesWoman, could you go to www.whatismyip.com and paste me your IP address in private message? i'll let you know what i can see
[16:37] <PhotoJim> daftykins: that is what I was about to recommend :)
[16:37] <YesWoman> daftykins: ok
[16:37] <daftykins> i'll be able to port scan you and check if i can see your webpage
[16:37] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: paste it to me too and I can test it also
[16:37] <daftykins> :) PhotoJim
[16:37] <YesWoman> PhotoJim: ok
[16:37] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: if we're right, there are ways around it but they are pretty technical.
[16:37] <dmizer> daftykins, YesWoman, be aware that you may get a server timeout due to load times.
[16:38] <daftykins> indeed dmizer , thanks
[16:39] <tremby> i'm having some severe issues after upgrading to the 9.04 beta. first up, /dev/null is mode 600 (but still a character device) each time i boot which causes all sorts of problems. what might be causing this?
[16:39] <daftykins> nmap says they're all filtered PhotoJim
[16:39] <PhotoJim> daftykins: not a surprise.
[16:40] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: yes, your Internet service provider blocks a bunch of ports.  so you can't access a web server run on your machine via your dialup service, alas.
[16:40] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: if you can get broadband, in particular with a static IP (an IP address that never changes), it's much easier.
[16:40] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: either that, or find someone to host your blog for you, at a site that is accessible on the Internet.
[16:41] <YesWoman> PhotoJim: oh god, i though that could be happened. I have my blog hosted but this was just a test
[16:41] <daftykins> YesWoman, out of interest who is your dial-up ISP?
[16:41] <YesWoman> daftykins: I'm not in the US
[16:41] <user___> !jaunty > tremby
[16:41] <daftykins> i'm not in the US either
[16:42] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: and I'm not in the US either :)
[16:42] <YesWoman> daftykins: where are you from tho?
[16:42] <daftykins> an island between England and France YesWoman
[16:42] <YesWoman> daftykins: my ISP is called RAMA
[16:43] <tdi> is the beta realease more or less frozen? any problems with upgrade from 8.10?
[16:43] <daftykins> !jaunty | tdi
[16:43] <jpo> tdi: it's not recommended yet to upgrade. jaunty is not that good yet
[16:43] <tdi> thx
[16:43] <datta> i have been trying to dl from youtube but cant with pytube
[16:43] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: Yep, broadband.  Or web hosting somewhere else.  Definitely your solution, unfortunately.
[16:44] <datta> does anyone know how to use pytube?
[16:44] <YesWoman> PhotoJim: this is my blog: rakblog.com
[16:44] <datta> i read some tutorials but they do not seem to work for my vids that i want to dl
[16:44] <YesWoman> PhotoJim: i have it already hosted
[16:44] <Daremo> alright Xorg expert? or some reasonable facimile of one?
[16:44] <Daremo> or Xrander... :)
[16:44] <pitwalker> tdi: i run jaunty from alpha5, currently from usb key-ext3
[16:45] <datta> can anyone please help me with pytube? on how to dl from utube
[16:45] <PhotoJim> YesWoman: Yup, that works fine here in Canada.  :)  Oh well.  You tried a fun experiment.  It can actually work on some providers.  It's just not very useful because that IP address is always changing.
[16:45] <airtonix> usser, ok checked both sharing an fs permissions...guest wasn't on the fs permissions but is now...although still getting denied messages
[16:46] <Tophu> hello all
[16:46] <fearful> is there a way to expand a virtual hard drive?
[16:47] <chotaz> Any channel specific for 64b ubuntu?
[16:47] <user___> fearful: what kind of virtual harddrive?
[16:47] <chotaz> !64bits > ChotaZ
[16:47] <chotaz> !64b > ChotaZ
[16:47] <fearful> Virtual Box
[16:47] <fearful> user___, Virtual Box .vdi*
[16:47] <Tophu> if I installed wine from source is it ok to use synaptic to install wine-gecko? or should I try apt-get or do I need to compile it as well? I R confoozed
[16:48] <JeppeM> LjL, thanks a lot for your help... I think that i have the files i need thanks to testdisk though... I was able to find them on the deleted partition, and have copied them to my new partition now, so i should be able to restore the things i need
[16:48] <Tophu> @fearful: I've never been able to do it
[16:48] <datta> please please help me with pytube
[16:48] <Brinstar> im playing a game that uses the cURL library to download maps, but for some reason its telling me i dont have it installed, when i do?
[16:48] <datta> i cannot use it at all
[16:49] <user___> fearful: i havent seen such a thing yet in the gui, suggestion: read the docu for cli programs and join #vbox
[16:49] <jpo> how can i use both enlightenment with kde together?
[16:49] <datta> please help me please on how to download vids from youtube using pytube
[16:49] <fearful> Tophu, user___ thanks :p
[16:49] <dmizer> datta, i suggest you look for a support channel speciffic to pytube
[16:49] <user___> Brinstar: whats the exact error message
[16:49] <dougl> datta, relax and wait for somone to help
[16:49] <jpo> datta: you can use a different thing to download vids from youtube
[16:50] <datta> jpo what can i use other than that?
[16:50] <Brinstar> user___: something can't download map, cURL library not installed
[16:50] <Brinstar> its on urban terror
[16:50] <dmizer> datta, there are other methods to get the videos too. the "down them all" plugin for firefox for example.
[16:50] <jpo> datta: go to mozilla plugins and add "download helper" to firefox which look like 3 balls and there you can download anything
[16:50] <datta> dmizer i tried downthemall but it does not download youtbe vids
[16:50] <Brinstar> let me try it again and see what the exact msg is
[16:50] <jpo> datta: it's the best
[16:50] <slashzul> how can I rename an auto mounted usb device to something I want?
[16:51] <user___> Brinstar: have you checked their website already? googled? narrowed down to the ut domain?
[16:51] <indietrash> how do you bring up lo?
[16:51] <indietrash> ifconfig lo up doesn't really do the trick...
[16:51] <datta> jpo i tried videodownloader but its not as fast as it should because i have a fast broadband
[16:51] <jpo> slashzul: you should umount it first then mount it as whatever you want
[16:51] <Tophu> anyone familiar with custom compiled versions of wine?
[16:51] <slashzul> jpo: my script cant do that with a /media/EASY\ DRIVE
[16:51] <jpo> datta: it's different than video downloader. it's download helper let me give you the link
[16:52] <Brinstar> cannot autodownload missing files because the CURL library cannot be loaded
[16:52] <datta> ok then it would be great if you can get the link jpo
[16:52] <Brinstar> user___: i'll try that
[16:53] <airtonix> trying to connect to a winxp share from ubuntu, returns error :  session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED
[16:53] <slashzul> how can I  auto mount a usb device to a mount point I want?
[16:53] <jpo> datta: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=&cat=1,5&show=20&page=3
[16:53] <clearscreen1> !fstab | slashzul
[16:54] <Tophu> if I installed wine from source is it ok to use synaptic to install wine-gecko? or should I try apt-get or do I need to compile it as well? I R confoozed
[16:54] <datta> jpo ts just the search link which one should i use from them all
[16:54] <jpo> datta: does the one before the last one say " video download helper"?
[16:54] <datta> yeah jpo
[16:55] <usser> airtonix, did you fix it?
[16:55] <jpo> datta: click add to firefox
[16:55] <Tophu> nvm I'll go to #winehq ^_^
[16:55] <jpo> and restart firefox when it's done
[16:55] <clearscreen1> Tophu: should be able to use apt/synaptic
[16:55]  * Tophu feels dumb for trying #wine more than 3 times
[16:55] <usser> airtonix, still same message from smbclient?
[16:55] <smokewon> anyone know of an alternative to rythmbox thats not amarok?
[16:55] <usser> smokewon, exaile
[16:55] <datta> ok then i ll try that then
[16:55] <airtonix> usser, trying to connect to a winxp share from ubuntu, returns error :  session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED
[16:55] <clearscreen1> Tophue: synaptic is just a graphical shell around apt
[16:55] <smokewon> cool
[16:55] <usser> smokewon, banshee
[16:55] <Tophu> ooo thanks clearscreen but I'm gonna double check in winehq
[16:55] <smokewon> oh yup
[16:55] <clearscreen1> sure :)
[16:56] <airtonix> usser, guest account is in the perms list for both sharing and the fs. now has a password which i supply
[16:56] <usser> airtonix, hm, why dont you just allow anonymous access, its essentially what you are trying to accomplish here
[16:56] <dmizer> PhotoJim, the image installs on vmware just fine. i'm going to install the vmware image onto the target disk directly. that should get me a working system. thanks again.
[16:56] <usergr> How can i set emerald as default window manager? When i hit emerald --replace its ok but after closing the terminal window there is no window border
[16:56] <usergr> I appreciate any help
[16:56] <nathan7> usergr: emerald --replace&
[16:56] <airtonix> usser, how to do that?
[16:57] <JessicaParker> anyone know how to amend user permissions using command line ?
[16:57] <usser> airtonix, well if you switch to simple file sharing, you can set to allow anyone to access
[16:57] <usser> airtonix, im not sure what the corresponding perm will be under advanced file sharing
[16:57] <usergr> thanks nathan
[16:57] <airtonix> usser, hwo to switch to simple file sharing?
[16:57] <usser> JessicaParker, what do you mean?
[16:57] <tsv> I'm looking for a simple way to stream video from one *buntu box to another, what would people recommend?
[16:57] <GGGHHT> Why is ubuntu install not finding any partitions?
[16:57] <saurabhgupta1403> JessicaParker: google for chmod command
[16:57] <jpo> datta: when you go to youtube, you should find it turning around which indicates that it's active ready to download so press the down arrow beside it and click the link that will come down. And voila
[16:58] <airtonix> usser, control panel -> something/something/something?
[16:58] <usser> airtonix, from explorer tools->options one of the tabs has to have simple file sharing at the bottom of the list
[16:58] <clearscreen> tsv: I believe you can do that with relative ease with VLC, could be wrong :P
[16:58] <JessicaParker> usser: have one user but does not have proviliges to administer system therefore cannot access some areas of x
[16:58] <tsv> clearscreen: I'll look, thanks :)
[16:58] <dmizer> JessicaParker, i don't recall the specifics, but the command is usermod, so you should be able to glean the necessary information with: man usermod
[16:58] <usser> airtonix, its in the same dialog where you enable show hidden files etc
[16:59] <usser> JessicaParker, some areas of X? which ones?
[16:59] <usergr> and sth else , I have a dual boot system (ubuntu & windows).In ubuntu sleep mode doesn't work.Is this a bug?
[16:59] <rover35> Hie!!
[16:59] <nathan7> usergr: Hmm. Sleep mode or hibernate?
[16:59] <rover35> need help...
[16:59] <daftykins> "useradd <username> admin" if you want them to be an administrator JessicaParker ?
[16:59] <oCean_> JessicaParker: are you aware, that you can use "sudo" to run commands with superuser privileges?
[16:59] <usergr> sleep mode ,hibernate works ok
[17:00] <dmizer> !ask | rover35
[17:00] <nathan7> usergr: Aha, check your BIOUS settings.
[17:00] <rover35> just a moment, i am writing it...
[17:00] <nathan7> *BIOS
[17:00] <Padhu> I want to install ubuntu in 500mb internal flash drive any ides?
[17:00] <nathan7> usergr: Try setting it in S3 mode.
[17:00] <nathan7> Padhu: You have 100M left then...
[17:00] <usergr> what should i do?
[17:01] <Padhu> nathan7: tell me the idea
[17:01] <nathan7> usergr: Reboot computer, hit F2 or Delete or something, it usually says it when you boot.
[17:01] <rover35> I had a usb device working correctly, and now after compiling the drivers (i wanted to update them), my usb cinergy terratec hybrid xs fm tuner do not work anymore
[17:01] <nathan7> Padhu: 400M for a basic Ubuntu install.
[17:01] <nathan7> Padhu: You can just normally install to it.
[17:01] <dmizer> rover35, if it's not broken ... don't fix it ;)
[17:02] <rover35> and also i suppose the lsusb command do not list the same identifier as before i update the drivers
[17:02] <nathan7> Okay, I'm gonna reinstall Ubuntu on my main box.
[17:02] <usergr> s3 mode??
[17:02] <nathan7> usergr: Yup.
[17:02] <Padhu> I tried it in ubuntu8.10 It results negative
[17:02] <rover35> it was not broken, but the fm was not working, and i wanted to see if an update could fix it
[17:02] <usergr> what kind of setting is that?
[17:02] <JessicaParker> daftykins: thanks that was what i was looking for.......basically some of the network gui in x cant be accessed by this one and only user due to restrictions
[17:03] <dmizer> rover35, did you use the "make install" command?
[17:03] <rover35> yes
[17:03] <daftykins> no problem :)
[17:03] <oCean_> !sudo | JessicaParker
[17:03] <Padhu> I want ssh server, CUPS, abiword, network-manager, firefox and any lightweight VM
[17:03] <dmizer> rover35, there's not much hope for getting rid of that i'm afraid.
[17:03] <rover35> dmizer...??
[17:03] <JessicaParker> just to clarify sudo useradd mouse admin - will that provide my current user mouse with administrtive priviliges ?
[17:03] <usergr> thanks nathan7 but what kind of setting is that?
[17:04] <JessicaParker> or will that add a user called mouse (who already exists)
[17:04] <daftykins> check out "man useradd" for confirmation JessicaParker , but i'd say yes
[17:04] <dmizer> rover35, where did you get your updated drivers?
[17:04] <marcosRz> Hello there I have a notebook with a excelent VGA (NVidia 8700M 512MB GDDR3) and I particually feel that compiz is not necessary..., my question is, by running gnome on metacity will it uses my vga power or not?
[17:04] <clearscreen> !usermod | JessicaParker
[17:04] <clearscreen> no bot command for usermod? damn
[17:04] <JessicaParker> newbie on linux.........converted from windows after a virus........
[17:04] <dmizer> clearscreen ... that does seem odd, doesn't it.
[17:05] <JessicaParker> my | does not work on the laptop - any ideas on that ?
[17:05] <usergr> does anyone know what is s3 mode?
[17:05] <clearscreen> dmizer: yup
[17:05] <clearscreen> JessicaParker: your | ?
[17:05] <lemistio> lllll
[17:05] <JessicaParker> yes shift next to z
[17:05] <JessicaParker> |||
[17:05] <daftykins> pipe key?
[17:05] <JessicaParker> yes pipe
[17:05] <daftykins> does it bring up a different symbol?
[17:05] <rover35> i did a hg clone on one repository (i don't remember it)
[17:06] <marcosRz> Hello there I have a notebook with a excelent VGA (NVidia 8700M 512MB GDDR3) and I particually feel that compiz is not necessary..., my question is, by running gnome on metacity will it uses my vga power or not?
[17:06] <rover35> dmizer, i did a hg clone on one repository (i don't remember it)
[17:06] <daftykins> it's backslash without shift of course on a UK layout
[17:06] <nathan7> !minimal | Padhu
[17:06] <JessicaParker> yes >
[17:06] <lemistio> how to change the root passwd if i can't remember the passwd?
[17:06] <LjL> !root | lemistio
[17:07] <lemistio> o thanks
[17:07] <JessicaParker> daftykins: on the sudo add i get the message 'mouse is not in the sudoers file'
[17:07] <jpo> lemistio: try to bruteforce it
[17:07] <emilien> running ubuntu 8.10 media will not mount after using vmware here dmesg http://pastebin.com/m7102ef74
[17:07] <JessicaParker> i only have one log in
[17:07] <dmizer> rover35, did an hd clone on a repository?
[17:07] <marcosRz> Hello there I have a notebook with a excelent VGA (NVidia 8700M 512MB GDDR3) and I particually feel that compiz is not necessary..., my question is, by running gnome on metacity will it uses my vga power or not?
[17:08] <usser> JessicaParker, you have to relogin after adding a user to admin group
[17:08] <Padhu> ubuntu mini cd iso has 9MB size. I think it is network installer. Is it possible to customize?
[17:08] <usser> JessicaParker, oh you mean you couldnt add mouse to admin because he's not in sudoers?
[17:08] <JessicaParker> usser:  but i cant even execute the command i have one user called mouse and that is the only user i have
[17:08] <emilien> running ubuntu 8.10 media will not mount after using vmware here dmesg http://pastebin.com/m7102ef74
[17:08] <JessicaParker> usser: yes
[17:09] <JessicaParker> usser: and mouse is the only login i have
[17:09] <JessicaParker> usser: mouse is a she
[17:09] <rover35> dmizer, i fund the command i did: "hg clone http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/em28xx-new"
[17:09] <usser> JessicaParker, wow, bummer, how did it come to this. you essentially now dont have the admin rights at all
[17:09] <usser> JessicaParker, did you enable root account at some point?
[17:09] <JessicaParker> usser: cool place to come from........network install without usb or cd rom using dhcp
[17:10] <dmizer> rover35, sorry, i'm not familiar with hg clone.
[17:10] <Padhu> dmizer: hg?
[17:11] <JessicaParker> usser: clearskin : daft : any ideas ?
[17:11] <dmizer> Padhu ... apparently.
[17:11] <oCean_> JessicaParker: what, you are not in "admin" group? type "id" to make sure
[17:11] <rover35> dmizer, just to simplify, i have 2 drivers, one was correct (it did worked correctly : before i install the second one) and after installing and rebooting from the second install the lsusb command show a differend vid:pid
[17:11] <dmizer> Padhu, i thought it was hd clone ... but that didn't make any sense.
[17:11] <JessicaParker> ok what am i looking for in this ?
[17:12] <daftykins> "123(admin)"
[17:12] <dratner> If I update or add new software to my main account (admin) do those changes and updates trickle down to my other users (wifes account/ daughters account)???
[17:12] <Padhu> dmixer: just use G4l (Ghoast 4 linux) or clonezilla live
[17:12] <JessicaParker> oCean_: 112 lpadmin
[17:12] <JessicaParker> but not 123 admin
[17:12] <oCean_> JessicaParker: ok, that is really weird
[17:12] <marco> does anyone know the problem, that java applications are too big? (size of buttons, labels)
[17:12] <daftykins> dratner anything requiring sudo authentication makes things installed be available to other accounts too, including updates and new software
[17:13] <oCean_> JessicaParker: you have to reboot into recovery mode. That'll drop you in a rootshell
[17:13] <JessicaParker> i thought i had done something incorrectly
[17:13] <usser> JessicaParker, try booting into single user mode and try adding mouse to admin from there
[17:13] <rover35> dmizer, so one of my questions is "how does the lsusb get the vid and pid of the device, why has it changed...?"
[17:13] <usser> JessicaParker, weird i did this kind of network setup on my eeepc worked fine, something gone wrong
[17:13] <dratner> daftykins: hmm doesn't always work in practice. Like I want my daughter to have flash on her mozilla but even though I have it on my account its not installed on her
[17:14] <JessicaParker> failsge Gnope ? or xFce Session ?
[17:14] <dmizer> rover35, you're problem is outside my area of expertise. i'm really very sorry.
[17:14] <JessicaParker> of failsafe terminal ?
[17:14] <clancy> hi
[17:14] <oCean_> JessicaParker: No, you have to reboot into recovery mode, then you can "usermod -G admin -a mouse"
[17:14] <clancy> is it possible to see if my hardware works perfectly with linux
[17:14] <usser> !hardware
[17:14] <clancy> can i see i there are error messages sometimes caused by a kernel error for example?
[17:14] <Padhu> clancy: use any one of linux live cd
[17:15] <marco> does anyone know the problem, that java applications are too big? (size of buttons, labels)
[17:15] <JessicaParker> usser:  it did give the option in the first instance of allowing admin access but for this user i wanted to deny it, but found myself then no abling to add another user
[17:15] <clancy> because sometimes the screen is black when i wake up ubuntu from suspend to ram
[17:15] <JessicaParker> oCean_: how do i do that ?
[17:15] <marcosRz> Hello there I have a notebook with a excelent VGA (NVidia 8700M 512MB GDDR3) and I particually feel that compiz is not necessary..., my question is, by running gnome on metacity will it uses my vga power or not?
[17:15] <JessicaParker> switch off then ?
[17:16] <oCean_> JessicaParker: well, during boot, you'll get a menu listing your kernels. One of them says "recovery mode"
[17:16] <shadeslayer> marcosRz, in all totality everything will use your card,i have a 8600 M GT
[17:16] <Tophu> how can I check which nvidia driver is installed? (I installed from website)
[17:16] <marcosRz> shadeslayer, thanks :)
[17:16] <rover35> dmizer, may be you can help anyway :-), i am currently compiling a kernel.org kernel, i think it won't install correctly (if it finish compiling), ause i 'm on a ubuntu system, how patch the kernel from the kernel.org site for my ubuntu...?
[17:16] <marco> irgendwie kann mir hier niemand helfen xD
[17:17] <shadeslayer> marcosRz, i mean just the graphical part of your desktop
[17:17] <oCean_> !de | marco
[17:17] <_acid__> marco, try #ubuntu-de
[17:17] <Guest25884> Haw can i make that when presing a key i will start a script ??
[17:17] <dmizer> ugh ... i've only patched a kernel once, and it took me days to figure it out. there should be directions in the patch readme file though.
[17:18] <JessicaParker> oCean_: ok in root now try that sudo useradd mouse admin
[17:19] <oCean_> JessicaParker: I'd rather use usermod. Like so "usermod -G admin -a mouse"
[17:19] <Kangarooo> Ok So now im going to install fastest way Xubuntu 9.04 beta using usb Wifi Using Mini.iso ubuntu 8.10
[17:20] <oCean_> JessicaParker: btw, the program "adduser" is in ubuntu preferred over "useradd" anyway
[17:20] <daftykins> oCean_, that's my fault for suggesting
[17:20] <oCean_> Kangarooo: all 9.04 issues/discussions go in #ubuntu+1 channel
[17:20] <JessicaParker> oCean_: cool work - now id mouse returns 115 (admin)
[17:20] <JessicaParker> oCean_: for my benefit -G and -a ?
[17:21] <daftykins> -g = group, -a = account, i'd imagine
[17:21] <JessicaParker> oCean_: dont worry append and group
[17:21] <oCean_> JessicaParker: the -G is add as SECONDARY group, the -a is for ADD (or Append)
[17:22] <TheMaestro> i have a basic doubt here...when i download new software manually..and say extract it and install it, what should be the location of the folder?
[17:22] <Flannel> JessicaParker, oCean_: just use `adduser user group`  Its easier and safer.
[17:22] <dratner> how do I install the flash plug in for ALL users? do I need to do that using yum?
[17:23] <tekteen> dratner, no, we use apt not yum
[17:23] <oCean_> Flannel: ah, yes. Since I'm from Unix, I'm much more used to the useradd/usermod commands. But I'll remember that one :)
[17:23] <tekteen> dratner, sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree
[17:24] <dratner> tekteen: that will install for all users?
[17:24] <lstarnes> dratner: yes
[17:24] <tekteen> yep
[17:24] <dratner> tekteen: thx
[17:25] <daftykins> hmm when i connect my windows mobile phone to my PC i get an interface "pan0" created by network-manager
[17:26] <dratner> tekteen: its not finding it. I probably need to update the repos or something ...I don't remember the syntax. Isn't it like sudo apt -update ?
[17:26] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get update"
[17:27] <ugliefrog> i have a nvidia 8800gt. bought a second monitor yesterday. how do you get ubunutu tp recognize the monitor
[17:27] <tekteen> dratner, what daftykins  said :-)
[17:27] <dratner> ah get...sure ...thx
[17:27] <dratner> doh!
[17:27] <daftykins> ugliefrog, are you running nvidia drivers?
[17:27] <ugliefrog> yes
[17:27] <daftykins> you should have "nvidia-settings" installed
[17:27] <ugliefrog> daftykins:yes iam
[17:28] <daftykins> check by running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings"
[17:28] <clearscreen> ugliefrog: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings && nvidia-settings&
[17:28] <ugliefrog> daftykins: ok
[17:28] <quinten> hey, i've been trying to install ubuntu in a dual-boot configuration
[17:28] <quinten> however, the install keeps failing at resizing the ntfs partition
[17:28] <tekteen> dratner, I was wrong, thre read cmd is: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:29] <quinten> i'm assuming this is supposed to work, but what can i do to fix it?
[17:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I installed Ubuntu server, and its running now, and hooked up to my router. But when I try to connect to it form putty, I get "connection timed out"
[17:29] <ugliefrog> daftykins: i have it
[17:29] <clearscreen> tekteen, dratner: should just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> this is within the local network btw
[17:29] <Flannel> Iceman_B^Ltop: Did you install openssh-server on it?
[17:30] <Iceman_B^Ltop> Flannel: yeah
[17:30] <clearscreen> ugliefrog: run 'sudo nvidia-settings&'
[17:30] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I did so during the installation
[17:30] <daftykins> ok hit alt+f2 then type "gksudo nvidia-settings" ugliefrog
[17:30] <Padhu> quiten: use gpated first. then install the OS
[17:30] <Scunizi> With one of the recent updates my system now turns all sound volume off on reboot.  I have to add "Front" and "Side" volume sliders and adjust after each reboot.  How do I make them stick?
[17:30] <magnetron> quinten→ i had the same problem. i resized the ntfs partition using the gparted live CD, then installed ubuntu
[17:30] <dratner> clearscreen: is that like a package of all stuff like flash and mp3 support?
[17:30] <tekteen> dratner, ubuntu-restricted-extras installs many things besides flash. I can not say any of them are bad though. It is up to you.
[17:31] <tekteen> dratner, yes
[17:31] <Iceman_B^Ltop> Flannel: according to my router, the machine has also retrieved an IP address
[17:31] <clearscreen> dratner: what tekteen said :)
[17:31] <Padhu> anyone tell me the interesting game to install in ubuntu
[17:31] <Iceman_B^Ltop> and when I enter any port different than 22, I get connection refused
[17:31] <Ryan_Leaf> Padhu: Try Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
[17:31] <tekteen> Padhu, I am still addicted to neverball
[17:31] <lstarnes> Iceman_B^Ltop: does 22 work?
[17:31] <Ryan_Leaf> It's completely free
[17:31] <Scunizi> Padhu: the World of Goo demo
[17:31] <dratner> tekteen, clearscreen: I will try it since its still not finding the flash plugin
[17:31] <ettore> hi folks, no way to see 4 gb of ram in a 32 bit system?
[17:32] <Ryan_Leaf> Padhu: But the beauty of Linux, is that it can run many Windows games!
[17:32] <clearscreen> Padhu: it's pay2play after the trial, but I've been having much fun with a game called Celetania, which has a native linux binary of the game
[17:32] <Ryan_Leaf> At full speed!
[17:32] <dimfish> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu, I just installed 10 something a week ago and just recently got my atheros wireless card working with the wireless compatibility update.  Everything works great except I have to manually "sudo make install" each login to get the drivers loaded.  I see that the drivers are in the modprobe.d/updates directory, and I'm not sure why they aren't grabbed automatically.  Thoughts?
[17:32] <Scunizi> ettore: it see's 4 gigs but like all 32 bit systems will take a portion for overhead
[17:32] <tekteen> ettore, yes, 4GB works on LINUX on 32bit
[17:32] <Iceman_B^Ltop> lstarnes: no, I get a connection timeout
[17:32] <porter1> Padhu, nexuiz, bzflag,
[17:32] <ugliefrog> daftykins: i have it up
[17:32] <MenZa> dimfish: Which atheros card is this? And which driver are you using?
[17:32] <Scunizi> Padhu: openarena
[17:32] <ettore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/342926
[17:32] <airtonix> usser, simple options....works now
[17:33] <lstarnes> Iceman_B^Ltop: make sure sshd is running.  If you can get to the server, run sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[17:33] <ettore> read the last reply
[17:33] <airtonix> usser, many thanks
[17:33] <Ryan_Leaf> Scunizi: Actually, it's not for overhead. It's just the additional memory that the 32bit architecture cannot address
[17:33] <porter1> padhu, sauerbraten
[17:33] <porter1> padhu, pokerth
[17:33] <daftykins> do you get two screen boxes under "X Server Display Configuration" ugliefrog ?
[17:33] <airtonix> cheerio peoples
[17:33] <daftykins> in the "layout" window
[17:33] <tekteen> Padhu, mines :-)
[17:33] <Iceman_B^Ltop> lstarnes: hmm, I have an added problem that I dont have a monitor that supports text mode
[17:33] <Padhu> oh. very lengthy list
[17:33] <usser> airtonix, just out of curiosity enable advanced mode and see what its set perms to when it was in simple. im curious
[17:33] <Iceman_B^Ltop> so even if move the server to here, I still cant do anything
[17:33] <porter1> padhu, yeah there are quite a few
[17:33] <JessicaParker> ok i have another problem - wireless
[17:33] <clearscreen> dimfish: check 'sudo lsmod | grep driver_name' to see if they're actually added
[17:33] <Ryan_Leaf> 32bit has a quite low limit on memory. But 64-bit versions support huge amounts of memory.
[17:34] <clearscreen> dimfish: you might have to manually add the modules using 'modprobe'
[17:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> can I boot the system with a Live cd and edit some file manually ?
[17:34] <dimfish> menza, its the AR5007EG and I'm not exactly sure which of the drivers is getting used because the new update loads a bunch.  I think its the ath5k after looking at a bunch of log messages, but I can't remember
[17:34] <florin_> hi all
[17:34] <tekteen> Padhu, everyone likes diff games, there are 1445 people in the room
[17:34] <ettore> i have a problem with nvidia card
[17:34] <JessicaParker> i have two laptops and it seems that when both are trying to connect to the wireless one of them the dell goes off
[17:34] <florin_> why i can't see my avatar picture in pidgin client?
[17:34] <ugliefrog> daftykins: no just one
[17:34] <MenZa> dimfish: Huzzah. I should be able to help you with that (I have the same chip/driver). Which driver are you compiling?
[17:34] <Padhu> i try it few for my child
[17:34] <lstarnes> Iceman_B^Ltop: none of your monitors support text mode?
[17:34] <daftykins> ok does the "detect displays" button help ugliefrog ?
[17:34] <Ryan_Leaf> You wait and see. Memory limits with 32bit will switch the world to 64bit
[17:34] <clearscreen> dimfish: try manually adding it: 'sudo modprobe ath5k'
[17:35] <Scunizi> Ryan_Leaf: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000811.html
[17:35] <gouki> Where can I find a history of packages installed by apt?
[17:35] <ugliefrog> daftykins: nothing there either
[17:35] <tekteen> Ryan_Leaf, people are already switching
[17:35] <dwarder> please suggest me notebook webcam that works with linux
[17:35] <dwarder> with ubuntu
[17:35] <MenZa> !webcam | dwarder
[17:35] <porter1> padhu, edubuntu has a few learning-based games
[17:35] <JessicaParker> on the connection information it looks as if the one that i cant access ie is working and has a ip address, broadcast address and subnet masl
[17:35] <Ryan_Leaf> tekteen: They have no choice. You either do not use the additional memory, or you change.
[17:35] <dwarder> MenZa: thanks
[17:35] <dimfish> clearscreen, should I do that everytime I log in, or will it remember I want that?
[17:35] <daftykins> have you rebooted since connecting the displays ugliefrog ? and are they connected to a single graphics card? by DVI or?
[17:35] <Iceman_B^Ltop> lstarnes: no, i have only a hdready tv
[17:35] <MenZa> dwarder: welcome :)
[17:35] <nathan7> Ryan_Leaf: PAE.
[17:35] <clearscreen> dimfish: it'll remember
[17:35] <Iceman_B^Ltop> unfortunately
[17:36] <space_cadet> how to I prevent amarok from autostarting when an Ipod is plugged in?
[17:36] <tekteen> Ryan_Leaf, yep. Also, linux does support over 4GB ram
[17:36] <clearscreen> dimfish: you can remove by using modprobe -r whatever
[17:36] <dimfish> cool, gonna reboot and try out, thanks for help everyone
[17:36] <florin_> why i can't see my avatar picture in pidgin client?is that a bug ?it can be fixed?
[17:36] <MenZa> dimfish: The thing is, you shouldn't have to compile the driver yourself; it's on the Intrepid CD
[17:36] <tekteen> Ryan_Leaf, on 32 bit machines
[17:36] <Ryan_Leaf> Really?
[17:36] <ugliefrog> daftykins: connected to a single graphics card
[17:36] <noon> Im running ibex. MPlayer is the only app that my audio will work with. everything else locks up, when I play something in MPlayer it prompts a dialog with: "[AO_ALSA] Unable to set hw-parameters: Input/output error". My PulseAudio shows no Output Devices. help please :(
[17:36] <Padhu> he bored with it
[17:36] <Flannel> Ryan_Leaf: through PAE, which is a hack.
[17:36] <Ryan_Leaf> nathan7: PAE is really just a hack to workaround the 4gb limit
[17:36] <nathan7> Yrah.
[17:36] <nathan7> *Yeah.
[17:37] <Flannel> tekteen: It's not "linux" or "windows" supporting it (or not supporting it),its the hardware itself supporting it.
[17:37] <jpo> which is better under ubuntu- Kde4.0 or enlightenment? when it comes to good looks and ease of access?
[17:37] <daftykins> roll-on 64-bit becoming the norm, I say.
[17:37] <Ryan_Leaf> It doesn't address the real 4gb limit
[17:37] <nathan7> jpo: KDE is the best-looking.
[17:37] <nathan7> jpo: I recommend getting 4.2 though.
[17:37] <tekteen> Flannel, I thought linux had a higher limit
[17:37] <MenZa> dimfish: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic should install the ath5k driver. You'll have to blacklist the old ath_pci module (which doesn't work, but is included) by adding "blacklist ath_pci" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[17:37] <daftykins> any 32-bit OS is limited to addressing 4GB RAM tekteen
[17:37] <Ryan_Leaf> Hasn't the Mac platform been 64bit since the onset of OS X?
[17:37] <nathan7> tekteen: It's a hardware thing.
[17:37] <MenZa> aaand he's gone
[17:37] <nathan7> Ryan_Leaf: Yeah.
[17:37] <Flannel> tekteen: It's a limit of the hardware itself. Yes, you can work around it with PAE, but all you're doing is hiding that limit of the hardware, it still exists.
[17:37] <clearscreen> I hate KDE's bloaty-ness so much, oh well - offtopic sorry ;)
[17:38] <nathan7> clearscreen: 4.2, not 3.
[17:38] <daftykins> i've heard it's not proper 64-bit Ryan_Leaf
[17:38] <Ryan_Leaf> daftykins: I thought they were promoting it will be full 64bit for the next release (Snow Leopard)
[17:38] <xino_gasco> hola
[17:38] <ugliefrog> daftykins: do you think its just turned off in the config file?
[17:38] <clearscreen> nathan7: havent tried 4.. is it any good?
[17:38] <space_cadet> how to I prevent amarok from autostarting when an Ipod is plugged in?
[17:38] <nathan7> clearscreen: Yeah.
[17:38] <nathan7> clearscreen: Complete overhaul.
[17:38] <Ryan_Leaf> But it's pointless if your demanding apps are not 64bit
[17:39] <Flannel> Alright, this 32bit 4GB discussion has veered offtopic.  If anyone wishes to continue discussion, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[17:39] <Ryan_Leaf> It's good to see Adobe going 64bit
[17:39] <space_cadet> how to I prevent amarok from autostarting when an Ipod is plugged in?
[17:39] <MenZa> !patience | space_cadet
[17:39] <space_cadet> !ot
[17:39] <Guest50676> the newest ubuntu 9.04 killed my install of ubuntu... now i had to uninstall 8.10 :(
[17:39] <clearscreen> nathan7: I still think im sticking with gnome & some compiz options, simplicity reigns :P
[17:39] <space_cadet> me too Guest25884
[17:39] <space_cadet> rrr
[17:39] <space_cadet> Guest50676,
[17:39] <space_cadet> lol
[17:39] <clearscreen> Guest50676: it isn't called 'beta' for the lulz
[17:40] <Guest50676> i know that
[17:40] <Guest50676> it didnt directly kill it i guess
[17:40] <MenZa> Guest50676: We cannot offer support for Jaunty here just yet. Try in #ubuntu+1
[17:40] <kernel32> irc.malvager.net
[17:40] <kernel32> open irc.malvager.net
[17:40] <MenZa> kernel32: try /connect irc.malvager.net.
[17:41] <emma> Guest50676: jaunty is beta.
[17:41] <Guest50676> i know that
[17:41] <space_cadet> !jaunty
[17:41] <noon> Im running ibex. MPlayer is the only app that my audio will work with. everything else locks up, when I play something in MPlayer it prompts a dialog with: "[AO_ALSA] Unable to set hw-parameters: Input/output error". My PulseAudio shows no Output Devices. help please :(
[17:42] <kernel32> help
[17:42] <ellar> Where to add modules that should be unloaded before suspend? Does anyone know?
[17:42] <MenZa> !help | kernel32
[17:42] <MenZa> kernel32: Er. That was meant to say something along the lines of 'Please be specific.' How do you need help?
[17:42] <hanasaki> in stund and the configuration what is the first vs second IP?
[17:42] <space_cadet> Anyone know how to stop amarok from autorunning when an iPod is plugged in?
[17:43] <Flannel> !repeat | space_cadet
[17:43] <MenZa> space_cadet: You've asked that question three times in less than three minutes. Please give it some time.
[17:43] <jrib> space_cadet: tried edit -> preferences -> media in nautilus?
[17:43] <space_cadet> hmm
[17:43] <space_cadet> will look
[17:43] <space_cadet> thx jrib
[17:44] <space_cadet> jrib, awesome.
[17:44] <chazco> ellar - I think /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules may be the place, but i'm not sure so best to check first
[17:44] <bernier> Hi, I'd like to know what is currently the best alternative to the nvidia binary drivers.
[17:44] <space_cadet> now if i can only get my battery to hold a charge... lol [ot]
[17:44] <jrib> bernier: nv
[17:45] <bernier> does it provide 3D acceleration?
[17:45] <clearscreen> bernier: no
[17:45] <jrib> bernier: no
[17:45] <bernier> OK THANKS
[17:45] <bernier> oops my bad
[17:45] <space_cadet> hmm
[17:45] <ellar> chazco: directory doesn't exist. there's only "00sleep_module" 9.04 Beta
[17:45] <magnetron> bernier→ there's a newcomer called "nouveau", still in development but will eventually include 3d acceleration
[17:46] <bernier> magnetron: thank you.
[17:46] <chazco> Can anyone recommend a good (and up-to-date) tutorial on setting up SSH in a secure way using public/private keys? (to control a netbook from a desktop)
[17:46] <chazco> ellar - Ah, you may be better asking in the +1 channel for 9.04
[17:47] <ellar> chazco: ubuntu+1?
[17:47] <chazco> Yep
[17:47] <nathan7> chazco: ssh-keygen -t rsa
[17:47] <ellar> chazco: thankx, I'll try
[17:47] <chazco> ellar - Ok, good luck :)
[17:47] <nathan7> chazco: Put the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub in the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the box you want to access.
[17:48] <chazco> nathan7 - So the public key ends up on the server and the private one on the client?
[17:48] <jrib> ChotaZ: you can also use « ssh-copy-id » instead of copying it manually
[17:48] <nathan7> Yeah.
[17:48] <dimfish> I am using ath5k as my wireless driver and use modprobe ath5k to load it successfully.  But when I log out and back in ath5k does not get loaded automatically.  Can anyone help?
[17:48] <MenZa> dimfish: Yeah; what you did before wouldn't work.
[17:48] <MenZa> dimfish: Gimme a sec to type out instructions.
[17:48] <chazco> nathan7 - Ah okay, thanks for the tip :)
[17:49] <jrib> chazco: erm, my last was for you
[17:49] <dimfish> menza, sure
[17:49] <chazco> jrib - Thanks :)
[17:49] <MenZa> dimfish: First, you want to remove the driver you just installed- sudo make uninstall where you installed it before. Then you need your CD, from which you can install the package 'linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic'. Then put "blacklist ath_pci" [no quotes] in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. Add "ath5k" to your /etc/modules and reboot. It should work like a charm.
[17:50] <dimfish> I'll do that, thanks menza
[17:50] <MenZa> dimfish →  welcome. I'll be around if that doesn't work as intended. :)
[17:51] <dimfish> can I use apt-get instead of CD?
[17:51] <space_cadet> anyone know an apple room?
[17:51] <nathan7> space_cadet: #apple?
[17:51] <smokewon> Hi there, im a little stumped with this test i ran on my code, everything passed except for line 54~ http://rafb.net/p/jmiyAB77.htm  whats going on?
[17:51] <MenZa> dimfish→  apt-get can install packages from the CD.
[17:51] <MenZa> dimfish→  but yeah, it's in the repos as well.
[17:51] <afallenhope> !sephome
[17:51] <afallenhope> !home
[17:51] <nathan7> !boob
[17:52] <nathan7> !boobs
[17:52] <MenZa> dimfish→  I just tend to have no internet connection when I install the drivers, so I use the CD repository to install from.
[17:52] <MenZa> !botabuse | nathan7
[17:52] <Iceman_B^Ltop> in what file is the network configuration stored ?
[17:52] <LjL> !botabuse | nathan7
[17:52] <nathan7> Gah.
[17:52]  * nathan7 attacks MenZa 
[17:53] <dimfish> menza: got it, I'll go through it now, thanks again
[17:53] <MenZa> dimfish→  good luck. :)
[17:54] <space_cadet> [OT] anyone got a good trick to revive a dead Lion ipod battery?
[17:54] <Flannel> space_cadet: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:54] <MenZa> !offtopic | space_cadet
[17:54] <clancy> when my CPU always runs with 1GHz instead of the full 2GHz, will it live longer?
[17:55] <Aeos> hi when I installed ubuntu I created an encrypted folder. Recently when trying to read it, it looks like i am getting the encrypted data instead of the readable data. How do I "de-encrypt" the file?
[17:55] <dougl> I am running ushare v1.1a on ubuntu 8.04 and while viewing large mpg files (1080p/8-11gig) on my ps3 thru ushare I get to a point in the video and it will pause and I am unable to continue watching - but when I check the content on the computer the whole movie is there - any suggestions?
[17:55] <matisse> hi
[17:56] <MenZa> hello, matisse
[17:57] <chotaz> Is there a way to use IE Tab(Firefox Plugin) on ubuntu?
[17:57] <jms32> My ubuntu don't want to stwrt after hibernate if bluetooth ware on when I hibernating it. What to do?
[17:57] <adante> hi
[17:57] <MenZa> chotaz→ Not to my knowledge, but you can install Internet Explorer.
[17:57] <adante> how do i browse the network with nautilus?
[17:58] <adante> when i click on network it says "could not display network:/// nautilus cannot handle network locations'
[17:58] <Negative> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[17:58] <chotaz> MenZa: Through Wine?
[17:58] <Negative> ?
[17:58] <MenZa> chotaz→ I think it's partly wine-based; It's a program called Ie4Linux
[17:58] <Aeos> the folder was created (with encryption) on install.
[17:58] <chotaz> MenZa: Thanks
[17:59] <MenZa> chotaz→ try looking at http://tatanka.com.br
[17:59] <Aeos> I dont know which encryption method is used when installing ubuntu
[17:59] <nathan7> =p
[17:59] <dstask> witam wszystkich
[17:59] <dstask> mam pytanie
[17:59] <dstask> jest może jakich irc na xbox360
[17:59] <MenZa> !pl | dstask
[17:59] <dstask> !pl
[18:00] <dstask> #ubuntu-pl
[18:00] <MenZa> dstask→ /join #ubuntu-pl
[18:00] <l0bo> hi, how can i change the X keyboard type to es?
[18:00] <jms32> Nobody knows?
[18:00] <Negative> !floodbot
[18:01] <dstask> słuchajcie
[18:01] <sambo_the_ninja> hello all. Anyone have any experience resolving hostnames over samba. it's been driving me progressively insane..
[18:01] <dstask> jaki jest program do sciagania plików z rapidshare premium??
[18:01] <Negative> is the code for FloodBot1 open source? (this being ubuntu and all)
[18:01] <Iceman_B^Ltop> where can I see what network interfaces are defined ?
[18:01] <mib_bc199lil> Hey can anybody point me to a link about sound server crashes in ubuntu 8.04
[18:01] <MenZa> dstask→ Please go to #ubuntu-pl. This channel is purely for English support.
[18:01] <LjL> Negative: not currently
[18:01] <ikonia> sambo_the_ninja: samba shouldn't be used to resolve hostnames unless your using it as a domain controller, a name service should be used
[18:01] <Negative> LjL: is it yours?
[18:01] <afallenhope> !paste
[18:02] <MenZa> dstask→ Ich weiß nicht, ob du beßer Deutsch verstehst, aber dieser kanal ist nur für Englischer Hilfe. Bitter nach #ubuntu-pl gehen.
[18:02] <LjL> Negative: join #ubuntu-ops if you want to discuss this
[18:02] <marcosRz> what you guys think about my desktop : http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6808/capturadetelac.png
[18:02] <sambo_the_ninja> ikonia: cheers, how do i use a name service?
[18:03] <omega_> hello
[18:03] <jpo> how can i install kde 4.2.1 with all its packages with no hasle?
[18:03] <mib_bc199lil> anyone ?
[18:03] <ikonia> sambo_the_ninja: what name service do you have, most people will have dns
[18:03] <ikonia> sambo_the_ninja: for small networks, the machines host file is normally enough
[18:03] <MenZa> marcosRz→ That's nice, but this channel is purely support; try showing it off in #ubuntu-offtopic instead. It might yield more response.
[18:03] <sambo_the_ninja> Not sure--apologies for my ignorance.
[18:04] <sambo_the_ninja> e.g. /etc/hosts?
[18:04] <ikonia> sambo_the_ninja: how many machines ?
[18:04] <sambo_the_ninja> only two clients
[18:04] <Aeos> hi when I installed ubuntu I created an encrypted folder. Recently when trying to read it, it looks like i am getting the encrypted data instead of the readable data. How do I "de-encrypt" the file?
[18:04] <marcosRz> k :)
[18:05] <sambo_the_ninja> bizarely I can connect with vista using the netbios but not with my debian machine or my sis' mac
[18:05] <mib_bc199lil> Anyone knows about sound server crashes in ubuntu 8.04 ??
[18:05] <matisse> I downloaded a open gpg key from a friend and I think I have a .asc-File for that key. How can I check now, if the key is correct?
[18:05] <durt> !sound > mib_bc199lil
[18:06] <Aeos> it would even help just to know what ubuntu uses to encrypt directories.
[18:07] <usser> sambo_the_ninja, install winbind, and add wins to your /etc/nsswitch.conf
[18:07] <mib_bc199lil> ubottu: thanks :)
[18:07] <usser> sambo_the_ninja, hosts and network lines in nsswitch.conf
[18:07] <mattgyver83> How can i manually mount my Windows partition?
[18:07] <mib_bc199lil> lol
[18:07] <jpo> thanks everybody
[18:07] <usser> sambo_the_ninja, something like that hosts:          files wins dns mdns4
[18:07] <burlitsa> hey! i have some programms that are 't supported on ubuntu and i must put windows to work, now i have only ubuntu, what do you suggest to do? i want windows and ubuntu both.?
[18:07] <sambo_the_ninja> usser: which section should i put windbind in?
[18:08] <MenZa> burlitsa→ You can dualboot.
[18:08] <Dreamglider> burlitsa, you can dual boot
[18:08] <MenZa> !dualboot > burlitsa
[18:08] <usser> sambo_the_ninja, hosts and networks
[18:08] <dupondje> whats a real good ftp client for ubuntu ?
[18:08] <^Ocean^> What Video card is better...  an ATI Radeon 9550,  or a Geforce 7600 ?
[18:08] <MenZa> dupondje→ I like Nautilus.
[18:08] <Padhu> how can i get cpu temperature?
[18:08] <sambo_the_ninja> usser: Cheers :) I've been pulling my hair out with this one. I'll give that a go
[18:08] <Dreamglider> burlitsa, you can also try wine or a virtual machine
[18:08] <betty-> hello
[18:08] <MenZa> ^Ocean^→ For Ubuntu, currently? The NVIDIA card.
[18:08] <Dreamglider> Hello
[18:09] <psychoactive_sti> i installed the new nvidia drivers and now I cant see anything anymore. how can I revert it???
[18:09] <MenZa> ^Ocean^→ Provided you don't mind binary drivers.
[18:09] <burlitsa> what is VB?
[18:09] <^Ocean^> MenZa, well, im in a dual boot situation ,  so i was thinking more for performance in games and stuff
[18:09] <burlitsa> can this help me?
[18:09] <Dreamglider> burlitsa, it's a virtual box
[18:09] <MenZa> ^Ocean^→ Um, personally, I'd go with the NVIDIA card.
[18:09] <dupondje> MenZa: want it a bit more heavy :) like skiplists, tabs, bookmarks, fxp support etc
[18:09] <MenZa> ^Ocean^→ Although that might just be because I despise ATI cards in general.
[18:10] <MenZa> dupondje→ um. FileZilla?
[18:10] <ugliefrog> daftykins: Im up and running now thank you
[18:10] <sambo_the_ninja> usser: do I then have to put "wins support = yes" in smb.conf?
[18:11] <usser> sambo_the_ninja, no thats irrelevant for host resolution, its only if you want your smb server to act as wins server
[18:11] <Iceman_B^Ltop> any server wizards here? During installation I chose "do not configure a network at this time" does this mean the Ethernet card isnt working after a reboot ?
[18:11] <sambo_the_ninja> brilliant. i'll give a twirl
[18:11] <Aeos> no one knows what encryption tool is used by the ubuntu installer? I added a passkey phrase to the directory but I dont know how to run it
[18:11] <Iceman_B^Ltop> if so, is there any way of enabling DHCP without reinstalling the entire server?
[18:11] <daftykins> what was the problem ugliefrog ?
[18:12] <Padhu> how can i get cpu temperature ?
[18:12] <daftykins> Iceman_B^Ltop, do you get an "eth0" if you type "ifconfig -a" on the server PC?
[18:13] <seg_> hello. how do I disable the network manager applet and use a static ip
[18:13] <ugliefrog> daftykins: I shut everything down. Had the system come up on the new monitor to check the cable. It came up. I un plugged then switched cables and now it woorks
[18:13] <jamiejackson> there's an ubuntu "usb boot cd" that will allow you to boot a thumbdrive ubuntu on systems whose bios doesn't support usb booting. will this work with other linux distros on the thumbdrive as well?
[18:13] <ugliefrog> daftykins: I had the cable in the wrong order
[18:13] <LinuxLion> hi
[18:13] <Padhu> seg_ : sudo apt-get remove network-manager and sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces
[18:14] <daftykins> ah ok ugliefrog :) glad to hear it's working
[18:14] <mib_bc199lil> Hey, my system plays sound for a while and then doesn't and then becomes normal
[18:14] <mib_bc199lil> can anybody tell me what can be the problem ?
[18:14] <seg_> Padhu: let me try. thanks.
[18:14] <daftykins> seg_, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[18:15] <ugliefrog> daftykins: thnak you so much for the help
[18:15] <daftykins> no problem :)
[18:15] <mib_bc199lil> ??
[18:15] <plediii_> i'm trying to boot off the AMD64 install cd on a dell precision with a dual core intel xeon, but all i get is either a blank screen or pixelated garbage
[18:16] <LinuxLion> Hey everyone. Speedstep is not working for me and it seems that I have some problems with acpi in general (can not read temps, fans are spinning at 100% all time etc) is someone here who can help? thanks
[18:16] <LinuxLion> just installed ubuntu
[18:16] <mib_bc199lil> Sound problems ? Anybody out here that can help ?
[18:16] <LinuxLion> everything but speedstep / temps / fanspeed is working fine
[18:17] <Iceman_B^Ltop> [19:12:35] <daftykins> Iceman_B^Ltop, do you get an "eth0" if you type "ifconfig -a" on the server PC? <-- tricky
[18:17] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I dont have a monitor that does textmode
[18:17] <nocturn> Hi, anyone know how I can enable UXA on Jaunty?  It has an empty xorg.conf  by default
[18:17] <mib_bc199lil> someone must be able to help regarding sound server crash
[18:17] <clearscreen> Iceman_B^Ltop: wat
[18:17] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but I cna try booting from the server cd and useing rescue mode to open a prompt?
[18:18] <clearscreen> Iceman_B^Ltop: what do you mean 'dont have a monitor that does textmode'?
[18:18] <The_Kids_Dad> I've installed Ubuntu on my kid's XO < OLPC> anyone know of an IRC channel for this ?
[18:18] <sambo_the_ninja> usser: I just added wins to hosts and networking lines of /etc/nsswitch.conf and rebooted. Unfortunately, I still get the error "No ip specified and hostname not found" when attempting mount -t cifs/smbfs. Any ideas?
[18:18] <ettore> bye all
[18:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> clearscreen: I have my system currently connected to a HDtv. it doesnt show anything when the pc is in textmode, in only shows graphical modes
[18:19] <clearscreen> Iceman_B^Ltop: open a terminal :P
[18:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> meaning, I dont see my pc boot, or the normal shell prompt, I only see something when Im installing
[18:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> clearscreen: I cant, the network isnt working
[18:19] <lfaraone> How do I set a cronjob to run every 5 minutes?
[18:19] <jpds> lfaraone: */5 * * * * command
[18:19] <clearscreen> Iceman_B^Ltop: still don't get it, can't you boot into your installation ?
[18:20] <usser> sambo_the_ninja, can you ping by the hostname?
[18:20] <mccord42> hello, is anyone familiar with the ati binary driver?  I'm having a strange issue.  you can see a screen shot here: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4492/screenshot1iyp.png
[18:20] <sambo_the_ninja> usser: nope
[18:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> clearscreen: well, I can boot into the installation, but I dont see a thing on my screen then. If I try to SSH to it from a different machine in the network, I get "connection timed out" but my router does report an IP address given out to this machine
[18:20] <chainsinthewall> hi, im using an hp laptop with a broadcom wireless card. im having a really hard time getting the card to work, and i have looked at several differnt online guides. any help?
[18:20] <usser> sambo_the_ninja, wins should go right after files in nsswitch.conf
[18:20] <mib_bc199lil> sound trouble people help !!
[18:21] <usser> sambo_the_ninja, can you sudo /etc/init.d/winbind restart
[18:21] <clearscreen> Iceman_B^Ltop: you need to install openssh-server if you want to allow ssh connections
[18:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> clearscreen: I thought I did that during installation....
[18:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> well, I'll just reinstall
[18:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> quicker that way
[18:21] <sambo_the_ninja> usser: Yep, I've got them right after files. Smbclient -L and smbtree comes up with the hostname thu.
[18:21] <jason> hello
[18:21] <mccord42> I tried setting modeline and it still looks like this: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4492/screenshot1iyp.png
[18:22] <lfaraone> jpds: thanks
[18:22] <usser> sambo_the_ninja, hm it usually fixed things for me.
[18:22] <daftykins> Iceman_B^Ltop, how did you setup the PC?
[18:22] <brutus> how do I 'cd' into a tar.gz file?
[18:23] <dayo> brutus: less filename.tar.gz
[18:23] <bjoern_> hi
[18:23] <jpds> brutus: You can't, you have to uncompress it first.
[18:23] <jpds> brutus: tar vfzx name.tar.gz
[18:23] <jason> looking for help with wine
[18:23] <hemanth> Best method to compile kernel version 2.4.28 on 2.6.27-11-generic ?
[18:23] <sambo_the_ninja> usser: Methinks it might be a bug. I've tried everything in the book thus far. The server is on wireless which might have something to do with it
[18:23] <jpds> !wine | jason
[18:23] <dayo> !wine | jason
[18:23] <dayo> lol
[18:24] <sara71> ciao a tutti! ::mIRC p2p::
[18:24] <mib_bc199lil> paprna:  do you know anything about sound servere crashes
[18:24] <mib_bc199lil> ?
[18:24] <dayo> ciao bella
[18:24] <brutus> dayo, less just gives me a listing of the files in it....i want to delete some of them too through the terminal
[18:24] <mrwes> come va amigo mio!
[18:24] <bjoern_> I have a problem with speestep / acpi. mz intel C2D CPU is not clocking down in idle and I can not read any acpi infos like temperatures or fan speed. and fans are running at 100% all the time. some hints? thx :)
[18:24] <Flannel> !it
[18:24] <dayo> brutus: then untar them with the command jpds gave u above
[18:24] <paprna> mib_bc199lil: no
[18:24] <LinuxLion> exit
[18:25] <LinuxLion> I have a problem with speestep / acpi. mz intel C2D CPU is not clocking down in idle and I can not read any acpi infos like temperatures or fan speed. and fans are running at 100% all the time. some hints? thx :)
[18:25] <dayo> brutus: untar it with:   tar xvzf filename.tar.gz   then cd into the resulting directory. delete as required, then retar with    tar cvzf filename.tar.gz  directoryname
[18:26] <brutus> dayo, If I double click a file in the archive to view in gedit it gives me some cryptic extension...is there a way to know this beforehand so I can cd into it from the terminal?
[18:26] <dayo> brutus: a way to know what beforehand?
[18:26] <dayo> brutus: just untar it and you can browse the files in a normal directory
[18:26] <brutus> dayo...suppose you have a text file in a archive
[18:27] <dayo> brutus: yeah?
[18:27] <brutus> dayo, and you double click it to open in gedit (say)
[18:27] <BigMoopies> I have a drive that keeps saying [161646.659856] Buffer I/O error on device sdd1, logical block 786433 , over and over.  What should I do about it? Get the data I can from it and reformat it and hope for the best ?
[18:27] <dayo> brutus: yeah?
[18:27] <brutus> and you try to open another file using browse...
[18:27] <chainsinthewall> does anyone have experience with broadcom wireless cards?
[18:27] <dayo> chainsinthewall: *gag*
[18:27] <brutus> dayo, then the path is set to some name symbolizing the archive
[18:28] <brutus> dayo, if you have an archive file you can probably see this
[18:28] <dayo> brutus: well, i've never tried that before. if i want at the content of a tarball, i untar the thing first.
[18:28] <dayo> brutus: let me try. i have a wesnoth tarball on my desktop.
[18:28] <meoblast001> hi.. i need some help fixing my mom's computer and she is a little impatient... i tried changing her screen resolution and now nothing shows up.... this is in gnome and is not the global xorg... this is the user-specific resolution... how do i reset this to xorg default?
[18:28] <BigMoopies> I guess I should try gparted to see if I can format it ?
[18:28] <chainsinthewall> dayo: yeah, i had ubuntu on my laptop about a year ago, and i managed to get it working then, but for some reason no luck this time around
[18:29] <mccord42> has anyone seen anything like this issue with my display? http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4492/screenshot1iyp.png
[18:29] <dayo> chainsinthewall: i too am one for two on the broadcom thing
[18:29] <mib_bc199lil> ls
[18:29] <daftykins> meoblast001, default ubuntu 8.10 install, changed res and no more picture?
[18:29] <jardi> hi all
[18:30] <dayo> !hi | jardi
[18:30] <brutus> dayo, goddit?
[18:30] <cherva> where can I find the switches for the "X" command ? There is no man page
[18:30] <Frijolie> how do you add ascii characters to a filename?
[18:30] <chainsinthewall> dayo: yeah, my friend told me just to go get some intel card, but its a shame to have to buy a new card just to use linux
[18:30] <jardi> can anyone try to reproduce this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/351020 ?
[18:31] <dayo> brutus: give me a second. i had to go and pick the one tarball that is 200+ MB  >.<
[18:31] <LjL> Frijolie: "mv" will rename a file
[18:31] <jardi> and tell me if I or Vojtech is crazy
[18:31] <Frijolie> LjL, I know how to rename a file, i'm asking how to add an ascii character to the filename
[18:31] <meoblast001> daftykins: yes
[18:31] <LjL> Frijolie: all the ASCII characters are on your keyboard
[18:31] <Frijolie> LjL, more specifically "1/2" as a character
[18:32] <LjL> Frijolie: that's not ASCII
[18:32] <durt> cherva, why do you want to run X from a command line?
[18:32] <meoblast001> daftykins: i didn't change the system wide res.... just the Gnome one
[18:32] <Frijolie> LjL, they are? it's extended ascii
[18:32] <dayo> brutus: ok, i've opened a txt file from the tarball. what next?
[18:32] <cherva> durt: to make wine run a game in different terminal
[18:32] <meoblast001> daftykins: so GDM comes up but when logged in, i have all this stuff all over because the resolution is off
[18:32] <LjL> Frijolie: there's no such thing as "extended ASCII". there are several ASCII based codes. Ubuntu uses Unicode encoded as UTF-8, is that what you want?
[18:32] <cherva> durt: http://winehq.pastebin.com/m38300620
[18:32] <brutus> dayo, in gedit...try to open another file...the path will be set to something..just have a look at that
[18:32] <cherva> durt: something like this
[18:32] <daftykins> so it's just wrong inside the user account meoblast001 ?
[18:32] <Frijolie> LjL, I've seen it so I know it's possible. I don't care if it's ascii or Unicode
[18:33] <LjL> Frijolie: of course it's possible. it just won't necessarily work if you transfer files to Windows or something.
[18:33] <dayo> brutus: in gedit open another file from the tar, or from the filesystem?
[18:33] <Frijolie> LjL, Oh yeah, I'm not going to be transferring it to Windows or anything
[18:33] <LjL> Frijolie: and if you say "an ASCII character", i can't really just guess that you mean "NOT an ascii character"
[18:33] <sambo_the_ninja> Any help with samba would be much appreciated. I can connect with the Netbios name under vista but not from my debian machine or my sis' mac. I can connect using the IP and can see the netbios name with smbtree and smbclient (I can connect this way) but cannot ping it using the netbios name on my debian machine. Any ideas?
[18:33] <brutus> dayo, from the tar...it should be already in the folder inside the tar by default
[18:33] <cherva> jardi: this bug is not reproducable on my ubuntu 8.10, totem 2.24.3
[18:33] <LjL> Frijolie: anyway what keyboard layout are you on?
[18:33] <LjL> Frijolie: US-intl i assume?
[18:33] <LinuxLion> I have a problem with speestep / acpi. my intel C2D CPU is not clocking down in idle and I can not read any acpi infos like temperatures or fan speed. and fans are running at 100% all the time. some hints? thx :)
[18:34] <chainsinthewall> what laptop cards are known to work with ubuntu?
[18:34] <meoblast001> daftykins: yes
[18:34] <Frijolie> LjL, uh, i'm not sure...I'm an English speaker and uh...
[18:34] <meoblast001> daftykins: my mom is asking if i have to reinstall her system and i'm saying no
[18:34] <LjL> Frijolie: and you are in the US so you probably have US-intl
[18:34] <jklock> chainsinthewall: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[18:34] <brutus> dayo, if you go to file->open...the window that shows up will show the folders inside the archive right?
[18:34] <dayo> brutus: it's not letting me do that. basically, i think the problem is this: opening a tarball like that loads it into /tmp
[18:34] <picca> what would you guys recommend for running XP in a virtual machine, ... was thinking qemu, but don't know how well this performs
[18:34] <Frijolie> LjL, System > Preferences > Keyboard just says US
[18:34] <daftykins> meoblast001, i would delete gnome related folders in her user directory at command line until it starts up in default res, i tried google just now but can't find where it would set the user resolution
[18:35] <durt> cherva, some backslashes are forward slashes? Also, outta my league.
[18:35] <chainsinthewall> jklock: thanks
[18:35] <dayo> picca: virtualbox
[18:35] <meoblast001> daftykins: ok thanks
[18:35] <danand> picca: sun's virtualbox is ok
[18:35] <jardi> cherva: crazy ! I reproduced it on any ubuntu I tried it (3 different installs of 8.10 and a 9.04)
[18:35] <daftykins> meoblast001, that's '.gnome2' and '.gconf' and '.confd' etc :)
[18:35] <picca> dayo, thanks ... is that opensource/free
[18:35] <picca> thanks danand
[18:35] <dayo> picca: yep
[18:35] <LjL> Frijolie: uhm, try hitting AltGr+7, if it's US-intl it'll work, but if it's just US, it won'y
[18:35] <picca> excellent ... thanks dayo
[18:35] <cherva> jardi: sorry, the video isn't pausing here
[18:35] <dayo> picca: u're welcome :-)
[18:35] <brutus> well, what path I have in that is ~/brutus/.fr-6LLvrj/<textfile>
[18:36] <brutus> dayo
[18:36] <Frijolie> LjL, I know what Alt is, but what's "Gr"?
[18:36] <cherva> durt: the "\" are because of the spaces in the word
[18:36] <hanasaki> what do I install for java plugin in firefox
[18:36] <hanasaki> !java
[18:36] <dayo> brutus: yeah, i had something similar. i think that's just a temporary, path. best is to untar fully.
[18:36] <LjL> Frijolie: right Alt
[18:36] <durt> cherva, figured
[18:36] <Frijolie> LjL, alright so "right Alt" + 7
[18:37] <LjL> Frijolie: yes, that will work if you're using the intl version of US
[18:37] <safsoft> Hello every body
[18:37] <brutus> dayo, ok,...thanks
[18:37] <safsoft> nice to meet u all
[18:37] <brutus> safsoft, yo
[18:37] <daftykins> !hi
[18:37] <holzmodem> hi, I try to build a kernel inside launchpad ppa, but the buildprocess reports EE: Previous or current ABI file missing! I prepare the source with debuild -S -sd, and this removes the missing abi files, how can I keep the abi files?
[18:37] <dayo> brutus: u're welcome :-)
[18:37] <safsoft> thanks :)
[18:37] <nathan7> Uhh, wtf?
[18:37] <Frijolie> LjL, it's not doing. I'm guessing I"m not using the intl version
[18:37] <LjL> !info gucharmap | Frijolie, try installing this package then
[18:37] <AirForceTwo> Current Server: irc.freenode.net:6667 (15 other server(s) available on freenode.net).
[18:37] <AirForceTwo> Total Users (across 3 network(s) and 7 channel(s)): 4957
[18:37] <AirForceTwo> Lines received since startup: 4899 (37.411 lines/minute)
[18:37] <AirForceTwo> I've been running for 2 hours, 10 minutes and 57 seconds.
[18:37] <AirForceTwo> Incoming data: 471.613 KBytes.
[18:37] <AirForceTwo> Memory Usage: 4.676 MBytes.
[18:37] <FloodBot1> AirForceTwo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <Frijolie> LjL, er not doing anything
[18:38] <LjL> Frijolie: this should let you pick any Unicode characters from a window
[18:38] <arvind_khadri> holzmodem, you want to create .deb of the kernel right?
[18:38] <nathan7> I did a dist-upgrade on 8.10, with the KDE 4.2 repos, and it asked me to set a MySQL root pwd =O
[18:38] <Frijolie> LjL, gucharmap is already the newest version.
[18:38] <holzmodem> arvind_khadri, yes
[18:38] <Flannel> !info
[18:38] <AirForceTwo> Current Server: irc.freenode.net:6667 (15 other server(s) available on freenode.net).
[18:38] <AirForceTwo> Total Users (across 3 network(s) and 7 channel(s)): 4958
[18:38] <AirForceTwo> Lines received since startup: 4947 (37.563 lines/minute)
[18:38] <AirForceTwo> I've been running for 2 hours, 11 minutes and 42 seconds.
[18:38] <AirForceTwo> Incoming data: 476.292 KBytes.
[18:38] <FloodBot1> AirForceTwo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:38] <AirForceTwo> Memory Usage: 4.676 MBytes.
[18:38] <LjL> Frijolie: then just run it
[18:38] <_lokko_> please.. how i can install the xubuntu installer by my usb pendrive? i already load the xubuntu for a live cd.. but my cd have problens.. when.. i need run the installer in the usb penrive..
[18:38] <Frijolie> LjL, GUI or CLI?
[18:39] <_lokko_> any idea ? thank's
[18:39] <puddle> ok
[18:39] <LjL> Frijolie: it should be somewhere in the menu, but you can just start it from the terminal too
[18:39] <arvind_khadri> holzmodem, just a sec
[18:39] <puddle> Which one of you suggested i go from eh0?
[18:39] <puddle> Well whoever it was it worked
[18:39] <puddle> woooohooo
[18:39] <puddle> linux ftw yea
[18:39] <puddle> heh
[18:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay
[18:39] <holzmodem> arvind_khadri, this is the log of my try: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24464034/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.linux_2.6.28-11.39~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> installed the server, again
[18:39] <Frijolie> LjL, Applications > Accessories > Character Map?
[18:39] <puddle> sorry about that
[18:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I ticked OpenSSH server as well
[18:40] <LjL> Frijolie: probably (i'm on KDE so i don't really know)
[18:40] <LinuxLion> I have a problem with speestep / acpi. my intel C2D CPU is not clocking down in idle and I can not read any acpi infos like temperatures or fan speed. and fans are running at 100% all the time. some hints? thx :)
[18:40] <puddle> after freaking 5 days of trying to get your shite online
[18:40] <arvind_khadri> holzmodem, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158 use this to build the kernel's .deb
[18:40] <puddle> it kinda exits ya heh
[18:40] <puddle> :P
[18:40] <puddle> :)
[18:40] <FloodBot1> puddle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:40] <puddle> flood|?
[18:40] <puddle> lol
[18:40] <puddle> ok
[18:40] <puddle> sorry
[18:40] <FloodBot1> puddle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:40] <Frijolie> LjL, ah, silly me I assume that everyone's on GNOME
[18:40] <puddle> ?
[18:40] <puddle> ok
[18:40] <MYM|Fear> LjL: my sound server works for some time then doesnt then works, can you help
[18:40] <LjL> puddle: quit it already
[18:40] <puddle> LjL stfu
[18:41] <arvind_khadri> holzmodem, you can paste the log at paste.ubuntu.com
[18:41] <puddle> hi all
[18:41] <MYM|Fear> puddle gtfo
[18:41] <puddle> LjL sorry
[18:41] <puddle> ?
[18:41] <Flannel> MYM|Fear: That's uncalled for.
[18:41] <MYM|Fear> ban puddle
[18:41] <puddle> i'll shush
[18:41] <LjL> puddle: no, you aren't sorry
[18:41] <MYM|Fear> he's flooding
[18:41] <LjL> MYM|Fear: i think i noticed that.
[18:42] <MYM|Fear> LjL i was replying to flannel
[18:42] <holzmodem> arvind_khadri, thx for the url, but I dont want to build localy (localy the build works), I want to build it inside the ppa
[18:42] <Frijolie> LjL, a lot of them in gucharmap look like "dice" (a square and 4 characters in it). Does that mean I don't have that font installed?
[18:42] <MYM|Fear> LjL: What about the sound problem ?
[18:42] <MYM|Fear> LjL: do you have any idea ?
[18:42] <jason> looking for alittle help with winecfg
[18:42] <arvind_khadri> holzmodem, i thought for PPA you upload files from your machine :) , am sorry, i dont know much then
[18:42] <LjL> Frijolie: yes, but you should have the 1/2 character in most fonts
[18:43] <durt> MYM|Fear, you need to be a bit more specific, an error message perhaps?
[18:44] <cluster> Hey whats the command to list my hardware
[18:44] <MYM|Fear> durt no error messages .. my system plays sound fine for a while, then doesn't, then does
[18:44] <Frijolie> LjL, I can't find it...there's thousands of characters in here
[18:44] <MYM|Fear> durt or do you know where to look in logs ?
[18:44] <MYM|Fear> durt and that while lasts for hours
[18:45] <LjL> Frijolie: it should be on the very first page, character code 00BD
[18:45] <MYM|Fear> durt i mean it works fine for some 1-2 hours, then doesn't for 1-2 hours and so on
[18:45] <afallenhope> !backup
[18:45] <MYM|Fear> durt any clues ?
[18:45] <l0bo> ubuntu is full of fail
[18:45] <MYM|Fear> !sound
[18:45] <cluster> Hey whats the command so i can list all my hardware
[18:45] <cluster> its like lsbl or somet
[18:45] <MYM|Fear> !MP3
[18:45] <Cycom> l0bo: sure, now that you're here, #ubuntu is full of fail :)
[18:45] <Frijolie> LjL, ah, I figured it out. I had "Webdings" selected as the font
[18:46] <daftykins> lspci, lsusb, lshw cluster
[18:46] <Frijolie> LjL, got it thanks. I learned something today!
[18:46] <cluster> thanks
[18:46] <gartral> l0bo: no, ubuntu has fail for users, the OS itself is quite nice
[18:46] <porter1> Anyone know if there are any memory editors for Ubuntu?
[18:46] <Flannel> l0bo: Is there anything we can help you with today?
[18:46] <durt> MYM|Fear, next time it stops working run ps -Aux in a terminal and see if there are any apps that have 'control' of the sound card. If there are kill them with kill -9 'PID'.
[18:47] <nathan7> Ahh, KDE 4.2 has  got a proper menu =D
[18:47] <fly_> can you give me some advise howto update my old pc kernel (ubuntu 6.06 with out internet)
[18:47] <sebsebseb> fly_: 6.06 is no longer suppourted
[18:47] <Flannel> sebsebseb: Yes it is
[18:47] <bill_hilly> can anyone here help me with a sierra wireless 598 on Ubuntu 7.10?
[18:47] <sebsebseb> Flannel: oh
[18:47] <nathan7> fly_: That's 3 years old.
[18:47] <l0bo> gartral: hahah word for that
[18:47] <nathan7> Flannel: No, there's a new LTS already.
[18:47] <fly_> :(
[18:47] <Flannel> fly_: The easiest way to do it would be to upgrade to 8.04.  You can upgrade straight from 6.06 to 8.04
[18:47] <gartral> durt, MYM|Fear good idea except the command is simply "ps aux" trying it the way durt spelled will give errors
[18:48] <nathan7> Although I'd recommend to use 8.10.
[18:48] <Flannel> nathan7: Yes.  LTS are supported for three years on the desktop, and five on the server.
[18:48] <sebsebseb> fly_: indeed upgarding to 8.04  would be a good idea
[18:48] <nathan7> Flannel: =O
[18:48] <regtech> hey nathan
[18:48] <Flannel> fly_: You can download the alternate CD for 8.04.2 and upgrade using that.
[18:48] <nathan7> Flannel: So it's still supported till next month? =O
[18:48] <fly_> tank you,  my old pc just 128M ram .so i
[18:48] <regtech> that process keeps coming back, I need to find the source of it, any ideas?
[18:48] <durt> gartral, you are correct
[18:48] <nathan7> regtech: Reinstall.
[18:48] <sebsebseb> nathan7: I am not sure about recommending 8.10 anymore, because  of how long it is suppourted,  and other reasons  to do with later Ubuntu's, but that would be going offtopic in here
[18:48] <regtech> i cant, im not there
[18:48] <nathan7> regtech: Seems it got haxed.
[18:49] <nathan7> sebsebseb: Hm.
[18:49] <gartral> fly_: just remeber to reupgrade to 8.04.2 for the security fixes
[18:49] <MYM|Fear> durt it is down now
[18:49] <PhotoJim> fly_: you'd be surprised how well an old machine can run modern Linux if it has lots of memory.  8.04 runs really well on a Pentium II with 384 MB.  and RAM is really cheap these days.  if you can upgrade your memory, do so.
[18:49] <Flannel> nathan7: It's fully supported until June of 2009.  After that only the server specific stuff will be fully supported.
[18:49] <meoblast001> oh no
[18:49] <fly_> ok I'll try
[18:49] <meoblast001> i've screwed up my moms computer more
[18:49] <MYM|Fear> durt i tried grepping pulse and alsa : both processes are up noow
[18:50] <coldserver> ﻿My binary needs to link against "-lfoo".. how can I make sure foo.a/foo.so exist somewhere? (ie, without having to manually search my $PATH).
[18:50] <meoblast001> i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a and quit part way through
[18:50] <MYM|Fear> durt how do i check which process has control of sound card ?
[18:50] <sebsebseb> nathan7: also 8.04 and 8.10 aren't that differnet really
[18:50] <meoblast001> now i can't dpkg-reconfigure
[18:50] <burlitsa> back....
[18:50] <opop> um-k  hai
[18:50] <Flannel> sebsebseb: Except he can't upgrade straight to 8.10
[18:50] <sebsebseb> Flannel: yep and that
[18:50] <gartral> PhotoJim: i have 8.10 running on a celeron 1.69 ghz CPU and 512 megs of ram, and im having 0 issues
[18:50] <MYM|Fear> gartal it gives bogus '-', no error
[18:50] <meoblast001> h/o let me put that in one line as no one will see the whole thing
[18:51] <MYM|Fear> gartral it gives bogus '-', no error
[18:51] <meoblast001> i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a and quit part way through,  now i can't dpkg-reconfigure
[18:51] <PhotoJim> gartral: yup, that sounds like a reasonable system.  my old PII can't take more than 384 MB or I'd upgrade it.  :)
[18:51] <gartral> MYM|Fear: ps aux, or kill -9?
[18:51] <MurielGodoi> hi, my sane is trying to scan an image from my webcam. How can I change it to get from my usb scanner?
[18:51] <valentin__> Is there a way to manage and change the speaker setup from within Terminal?
[18:51] <gartral> PhotoJim: even with the server kernel?
[18:51] <MYM|Fear> gartral ps -aux
[18:52] <gartral> MYM|Fear: thats your problem it ps aux, no "-"
[18:52] <Spidy> ciao
[18:52] <MYM|Fear> durt there ?
[18:52] <Spidy> !list
[18:52] <cdm10> My laptop's hard drive clicks loudly a few times a minute when the system is running on battery -- upon investigation, it seems to be trying to park the head, but doesn't end up shutting down because it's accessed again so quickly. How can I fix this?
[18:52] <PhotoJim> gartral: actually, if you install the server version, a very modest machine is enough if you don't install a GUI. my server is a PII-333 with 768 MB of RAM, but it ran fine doing my home server needs with 256M.  It only cost me $10 to max it out so why not?
[18:52] <gartral> MYM|Fear: copy and paste > ps aux
[18:52] <syntac> i accidentally removed the wireless icon from my gnome taskbar (the one that selects which network i'm connected to and signal strength). how do i get it back?
[18:52] <meoblast001> no
[18:52] <meoblast001> i'm angry
[18:52] <durt> MYM|Fear, not with ps, just tells you whats running, anything out of the ordinary, etc. lsof might give you more info as to what has /dev/snd, other sound device nomes open.
[18:52] <cdm10> syntac: alt-f2, type nm-applet
[18:53] <meoblast001> everything is breaking
[18:53] <syntac> cdm10: will it always show up in the future?
[18:53] <holzmodem> hi, I try to build a kernel INSIDE Launchpad PPA (NOT LOCAL!), but the buildprocess reports "EE: Previous or current ABI file missing!" I prepare the source with debuild -S -sd, and this removes the missing abi files, how can I keep the abi files or fix the problem??
[18:53] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ITS WORKING
[18:53] <Iceman_B^Ltop> finally
[18:53] <cdm10> syntac: it should -- if not, go to System>Preferences>Sessions and add it to your startup
[18:53] <daftykins> what changed Iceman?
[18:53] <durt> MYM|Fear, *names even
[18:53] <Iceman_B^Ltop> daftykins: I guess the eth0 interface was unconfigured
[18:54] <meoblast002> ok... i'm back... on the breaking computer
[18:54] <Iceman_B^Ltop> so I just reinstalled the server
[18:54] <Iceman_B^Ltop> while connected to a network
[18:54] <syntac> cdm10: no luck, it doesn't show up. could it be that i deleted the area where it usually goes?
[18:54] <cdm10> syntac: it could be -- re-add the notification area applet.
[18:54] <gartral> why does athe middle mouse buttom copy, paste, and act like enter?
[18:54] <syntac> cdm10: ah perfect! thanks
[18:54] <daftykins> ah, could've easily fixed if you'd been able to see text Iceman_B^Ltop :(
[18:54] <meoblast002> i'm having 2 problems..... apt-get is complaining about samba-common, smbclient, and winbind being uninstallable while dpkg-reconfigure failed so now i can't run dpkg-reconfigure again... can someone please help me?
[18:54] <valentin__> Is it possilble to change speaker setup from within console?
[18:55] <cdm10> syntac: no problem
[18:55] <Iceman_B^Ltop> daftykins: yeah, probably. I always get unusual situations, heh
[18:55] <daftykins> :)
[18:55] <Iceman_B^Ltop> updating the system now /o/
[18:55] <MYM|Fear> durt, gartral the output of lsof | grep snd is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/140213/plain/
[18:55] <durt> MYM|Fear, btw what sound card?
[18:55] <daftykins> depending on what you want to do with the server you'll probably end up doing very similar to the solution anyway to set a static IP Iceman_B^Ltop
[18:56] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I set up my router to give out the same IP
[18:56] <Iceman_B^Ltop> based on MAC
[18:56] <daftykins> static DHCP leasing, ok
[18:56] <Iceman_B^Ltop> yup
[18:56] <daftykins> that's one way >8)
[18:56] <MYM|Fear> durt intel sound card
[18:56] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I want to have an external point to tunnel from, mostly
[18:56] <gartral> ohh... i have a MYM|Fearim no expert, but it looks like firefox is really the only thing using your sound hardware
[18:56] <Iceman_B^Ltop> and an irssi client thats always connected
[18:57] <gartral> MYM|Fearim no expert, but it looks like firefox is really the only thing using your sound hardware
[18:57] <MYM|Fear> durt,gartral hey running the hardware test corrected the state of server
[18:57] <valentin__> HELP
[18:57] <bill_hilly> Can't get my sierra 598 wireless card to attach to ttyUSB. Can anyone help?
[18:57] <Flannel> !helpme | valentin__
[18:58] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh
[18:58] <valentin__> ok  Flannel
[18:58] <meoblast002> if anyone responded to me... please respond again.. i don't know how to scroll up in IRSSI and everyone in the house is asking me for computer help
[18:58] <Iceman_B^Ltop> daftykins, maybe you know. I've installed the LAMP modules, whats a good way to monitor my system via the web ?
[18:58] <MYM|Fear> gartral at present i haven't kept any media players running because no sound was coming
[18:58] <sebsebseb> Flannel: is help me new?  not seen that before, and it seems better than ask
[18:58]  * meoblast002 is having a panic attack
[18:58] <sebsebseb> !ask
[18:58] <Flannel> meoblast002: page up.  or if that doesn't work, alt-p
[18:58] <MYM|Fear> durt, gartral though i would like to clear the whole problem
[18:58] <daftykins> what would you want to monitor Iceman_B^Ltop ?
[18:58] <Iceman_B^Ltop> resources usage
[18:59] <Iceman_B^Ltop> network usage
[18:59] <daftykins> PHPinfo would probably cover all that
[18:59] <meoblast002> Flannel: thanks... nope.. no one responded
[18:59] <Iceman_B^Ltop> that kinda stuff
[18:59] <dayo> meoblast002: Ctrl+A [
[18:59] <gartral> anyone get anywhere with the special controls on an Eizo monitor?
[18:59] <dayo> meoblast002: and then PgUp/PgDown
[18:59] <Iceman_B^Ltop> Im not gonna mess with ebox though, that was a nightmare
[18:59] <meoblast002> my error for "sudo dpkg-reconfigure" is "
[18:59] <dayo> Flannel: wow. that works too. lol
[18:59] <durt> MYM|Fear, take a look at /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages/ and /var/log/daemons for anything usefull.
[18:59] <meoblast002> oops
[18:59] <meoblast002> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[19:00] <dayo> meoblast002: that means somewhere a dpkg is running.
[19:00] <durt> MYM|Fear, and anything else in /var/log that you think might be relevant for that matter.
[19:00] <Waldir> hi... I am trying to use skype but get no sound, how do I configure that?
[19:00] <dayo> meoblast002: try this:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:00] <meoblast002> dayo: no.. it means i stopped dpkg-reconfigure part way through
[19:00] <sebsebseb> Waldir: in the Skype settings
[19:00] <dayo> meoblast002: yeah. and it's still locked
[19:01] <meoblast002> dayo: errors were encountered processing: samba-client, smbclient, and winbind
[19:01] <brutus> hello world
[19:01] <cdm10> meoblast002: i believe what you want to be doing is sudo dpkg --configure -a -- try restarting the system before running this.
[19:01] <MYM|Fear> durt related error at http://paste.ubuntu.com/140217/plain/
[19:02] <burhanudin> hhh
[19:02] <dayo> how to i override a root password that's been set?
[19:02] <Flannel> dayo: Set it again.
[19:02] <Flannel> dayo: Or, even better, lock the root account: sudo passwd -l root (that's lowercase L)
[19:02] <MYM|Fear> durt i think the main problem was sink-input.c : Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink.
[19:02] <StevenX> Hello all. Is it at all possible for Ubuntu to slow down my Windows Vista experience (aside from bootup time due to grub, etc) or are the two completely unrelated to each other on a dual boot setup?
[19:02] <Flannel> StevenX: they're entirely unrelated (except they share hard drive space)
[19:02] <jklock> StevenX: is it unrelated.
[19:03] <dayo> Flannel: how would i set it again?
[19:03] <Flannel> dayo: with passwd
[19:03] <meoblast002> dayo: i still get that error
[19:03] <cdm10> StevenX: unless your resizing of the partition affected its fragmentation or something, it shouldnat.
[19:03] <durt> MYM|Fear, my browser in acting up, google that error message
[19:03] <StevenX> thanks guys. for some reason I always feel it's slower. maybe it's my imagination.
[19:03] <gartral> dayo: i advise NOT locking the root account, youll have to make another root account to undo that
[19:03] <durt> MYM|Fear, in fact, both of them
[19:03] <Flannel> gartral: Erm... no?  Theres only one root account.  And it starts out locked.
[19:03] <meoblast002> brb gonna restart
[19:04] <durt> MYM|Fear, *is* acting up
[19:04] <dayo> Flannel: ok, thanks
[19:04] <gartral> Flannel: last time i tryed i couldnt unlock it cause it said that the account was locked >.>
[19:04] <dayo> gartral: yeah, i usually don't. but in some scenarios, it's necessary :-(
[19:04] <dayo> meoblast001: did u reboot first?
[19:04] <Flannel> gartral: Well, there's really no reason to unlock it in the first place.  sudo works just fine, and is the preferred method.
[19:05] <sebsebseb> !sudo
[19:05] <Iceman_B^Ltop> how does "shutdown -h now" differ from "shutdown -P now" ?
[19:05] <sebsebseb> !noroot
[19:05] <Flannel> gartral: But from any admin account you can unlock it, etc.
[19:05] <gartral> Flannel: ohh, your talking a true "root" account, i had locked the primary sudoers account, lol
[19:05] <Flannel> gartral: That'll do it.  No, only "root" is root.  A sudoers account isn't a root account.
[19:06] <meoblast002> back
[19:06] <Flannel> gartral: And in your situation, you can reboot to the recovery console and unlock it.
[19:06] <gartral> Flannel: yes, but theres an old convention of sudo, "root mode"
[19:06] <gotcha> !gksu
[19:06] <Waldir> sebsebseb: I went there but none of the available devices let me hear the test sound...
[19:06] <burhanudin> hi i'am newbe need for some help
[19:06] <gartral> Flannel: that was 3 years ago, lol
[19:06] <cdm10> !ask | burhanudin
[19:06] <MYM|Fear> durt thanks :)
[19:07] <jatt> how do I get the reference of my hard disk? E.g. WDC WD2500BEVS-75UST0
[19:07] <sebsebseb> Waldir: yeah,  I can't really help you sadly, but  with the help of someone else,  I helped someone get Skype's sound working.  we had to change two things in the Skype settings, of course you will have differnet hardware
[19:07] <meoblast002> ok second problem
[19:07] <durt> MYM|Fear, I'm seeing bug reports in Launchpad on pulse+intel with this error message.
[19:07] <meoblast002> this is an Intel machine... and i have no hardware accelleration... why?.. the drivers should be in the kernel
[19:07] <Waldir> sebsebseb: the strange thing is i can hear sounds here on pidgin :P
[19:08] <packetcase> is it easy to set up your own home server with ubnut server edition?
[19:08] <gartral> Waldir: what, exactly, are you having trouble with in skype?
[19:08] <Flannel> packetcase: It is.  Although you don't need the server edition.
[19:09] <Waldir> gartral: everything seems to be working fine, I just can't hear anything (nor can anyone hear me if I make a call)
[19:09] <burhanudin> i'am sorry i'am only a kid and i don't know what to do i mean i don't know how to star or where to start
[19:09] <zaccour> how do i find my default gateway?
[19:09] <MYM|Fear> durt ok
[19:09] <sebsebseb> burhanudin: ok
[19:09] <sebsebseb> burhanudin: how old?   have you got Ubuntu installed yet?
[19:09] <Waldir> gartral:  in the sound devices settings, I tried every option available, but the test sound button was completely silent
[19:09] <packetcase> Flannel: why should I not use the server version?
[19:09] <burhanudin> hi mr cdm10
[19:10] <gartral> why.... the heck does pidgin take %70 of my proc at *all* times?!?
[19:10] <rnduser2> Hi, I've installed Ubuntu 8.10 in VirtualBox, using LVM volumes on one harddrive. I've the following partitions: 1 primary (LVM), 1 primary (/boot), 1 primary (for installing Win XP on). The LVM contains one root and one swap logical volume. When I start the virtual machine with the Windows XP setup CD, it hangs right before showing the first screen (where it asks to press F6 for drivers, etc.). Is this because I have LVM on the hardisk?
[19:10] <cdm10> burhanudin: hi -- this is the Ubuntu support channel. What do you need?
[19:10] <MYM|Fear> durt i got a similar error message at http://osdir.com/ml/audio.pulseaudio.general/2007-09/msg00008.html
[19:10] <Flannel> packetcase: I didn't say you shouldn't.  I just said you didn't have to.  You can use any edition to run a server, if you aren't comfortable with the command line, or whatnot.
[19:10] <LinuxLion> I have a problem with speestep / acpi. my intel C2D CPU is not clocking down in idle and I can not read any acpi infos like temperatures or fan speed. and fans are running at 100% all the time. some hints? thx :)
[19:10] <burhanudin> hi mr sebsebseb
[19:11] <XeNiX> Hello all , i can create a local address root@localhost or something like this ?
[19:11] <packetcase> Flannel: I have to advice a friend who want's to set up his own home server. He have never used linux before...
[19:11] <sebsebseb> burhanudin: what do you want help with?
[19:11] <XeNiX> i want to use it locally
[19:11] <durt> MYM|Fear, seems alot of people are ready to blame flash for this too.
[19:11] <Flannel> packetcase: Is this for a headless box? or what?
[19:11] <meoblast002> so Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[19:11] <meoblast002> has no drivers?
[19:11] <packetcase> Flannel: I will ask him
[19:12] <meoblast002> sorry about the random line breaks.... i'm not familiar with IRSSI
[19:12] <ze_us> Hello Everyone
[19:12] <burhanudin> mr cmd10 i'am 15 years old, please tell me which way i have to choose to understand ubuntu system
[19:12] <MYM|Fear> durt maybe i was viewing a video on youtube at that time
[19:12] <MYM|Fear> durt *at the time of crash
[19:12] <ze_us> if anyone has some time to support this question, im sure its been asked before, aspire one wireless stopped working for me
[19:12] <ze_us> i checked the forums
[19:12] <cdm10> burhanudin: I started with Ubuntu at 14 :) do you know what Ubuntu is and what it does?
[19:12] <packetcase> Flannel: with a screen
[19:12] <ze_us> and tried a number of things
[19:12] <afallenhope> hey I''m trying to backup my home dir to an external hd. I was wondering if I do sudo -s -H as labled on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR will it convert all my files to root? because the sudo cp -a /home/ /media/backup did.
[19:12] <meoblast002> ahh i think it's a driver bug
[19:12] <ze_us> but to no avail
[19:13] <thrillERboy> hey guys.... how to stop a program which is not responding?
[19:13] <ze_us> probably
[19:13] <thrillERboy> is there a task manager kinda thing?
[19:13] <meoblast002> ok i'm going to go back go my other system.. thanks for the help guys
[19:13] <sebsebseb> thrillERboy: killall programname  or xkill and click on it
[19:13] <cdm10> thrillERboy: alt-f2, type "xkill", click the window of the broken program
[19:13] <gartral> whats with everyone having issues with flash... other tan being a tad slow, it has worked better for me on this os then in winblows
[19:13] <burhanudin> did i choose a wrong chanel mr sebsebseb
[19:13] <cdm10> burhanudin: if you want to learn about Ubuntu, this is the right channel.. is that your goal?
[19:13] <MYM|Fear> thrillERboy: ps -aux | grep your process name and then killall -9 process_id
[19:13] <XeNiX> Hello all , i can create a local address root@localhost or something like this ?
[19:14] <burhanudin> yes i'am sure mr cmd10
[19:14] <thrillERboy> theres no window... I minimized songbird to tray and its not responding now
[19:14] <thrillERboy> yea i'll try MYM|Fear  :)
[19:14] <packetcase> Flannel: the server will have a screen
[19:14] <gartral> XeNiX: thats a really cryptic question, you should rephrase it
[19:14] <durt> MYM|Fear, maybe a restart of pulse will serve as a workaround for now. some thing like 'sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart' or what ever the pulseaudio daemon is called.
[19:14] <burhanudin> but would you tell where to start
[19:14] <ze_us> can someone halp me my aspire one wireless stopped working for me with ubunto 8.10
[19:15] <XeNiX> gartal: i use exim and i want to email root account root@localhost  ?
[19:15] <zaccour> i need to find my default router 4 colum number, but i dont have a router. what sould i be looking for in the ifconfig??
[19:15] <rnduser2> Hi, I've installed Ubuntu 8.10 in VirtualBox, using LVM volumes on one harddrive. I've the following partitions: 1 primary (LVM), 1 primary (/boot), 1 primary (for installing Win XP on). The LVM contains one root and one swap logical volume. When I start the virtual machine with the Windows XP setup CD, it hangs right before showing the first screen (where it asks to press F6 for drivers, etc.). Is this because I have LVM on the hardisk?
[19:15] <cdm10> burhanudin: Well, how much do you know about Ubuntu?
[19:15] <Flannel> packetcase: If its got enough resources, it may be easier for him to start off with a regular desktop install.  He'll have a GUI and stuff like that.  Linux makes no differntiation between a "server" machine and a "desktop" machine.  You can run server type programs on either, etc.
[19:15] <gartral> thrillERboy: then type ps aux, find songbirds PID and type kill -15 <songbird's PID here>
[19:15] <burhanudin> but before thank you very much mr cmd10 for responding i'am really glad
[19:15] <sebsebseb> rnduser2: ok since your issue is not distro specific,  I would  recommend you try #vbox
[19:15] <burhanudin> a little bit mr cmd10
[19:15] <afallenhope> thrillERboy, try kill -15 `pidof songbirds`
[19:16] <burhanudin> i just used standart application
[19:16] <rnduser2> sebsebseb: ok thx
[19:16] <gartral> afallenhope: thats exactly what i told him to do :)
[19:16] <Flannel> rnduser2: Probably not.  But you might have more luck in ##windows.  There may be something special you have to do for windows in Virtualbox
[19:16] <BoomShaka> honestly... could gimp get any shitter?
[19:16] <sebsebseb> rnduser2: no problem, and good luck.   and I hope you put Ubuntu on a hard disk for real :)
[19:16] <bill_hilly> Can anyone help me with sierra 598 wireless card? I've got the drivers and scripts, bu I can't get it to attach to ttyUSB. Thanks.
[19:16] <packetcase> Flannel: Of course. But what would be the easiest for him to admister and set up?
[19:16] <afallenhope> gardar, no no,, you told him to ps aux lol. I just skipped that step lol.
[19:17] <XeNiX> gartal: i use exim and i want to email root account root@localhost  ?
[19:17] <Flannel> packetcase: Having a GUI is easier for most people.
[19:17] <XeNiX> ?
[19:17] <ze_us> can someone halp me my aspire one wireless stopped working for me with ubunto 8.10
[19:17] <gartral> afallenhope: im gartral, and i was running under the assumption he didnt know SB's PID
[19:17] <afallenhope> thrillERboy, or you could try pkill songbird
[19:17] <ze_us> please
[19:17] <burhanudin> mr cmd10 i have machine with sempron, 256 memory
[19:17] <rnduser2> Flannel: ok
[19:17] <burhanudin> but i'am not sure ubuntu run a liitle slomly
[19:17] <rnduser2> sebsebseb: yep, that's the plan :)
[19:17] <burhanudin> i'am sorry i mean slowly
[19:17] <afallenhope> gartral, lol, pidof songbird gets the PID for you..
[19:17] <thrillERboy> yea afallenhope it worked :)
[19:17] <sebsebseb> burhanudin: try the Live CD
[19:17] <durt> afallenhope, thrillERboy or 'killall songbird' :-)
[19:17] <gartral> XeNiX: then type mail <user> <message>
[19:17] <afallenhope> thrillERboy, glad I could help ^_^
[19:17] <cdm10> burhanudin: that's not very much RAM, it will definitely be a bit slow.
[19:18] <l0bo> is there a ubuntu non retard version?
[19:18] <thrillERboy> but how to see the process numbers?
[19:18] <infomomo> hey guys, is .bundle only for debian ?
[19:18] <riwa> I trying to make caps lock not work like caps lock (who has ever used it?) But in the "CAPSLOCK behaviour in keyboard settings" there only stupid options. None like: It does nothing or: it behaves like shift
[19:18] <gartral> afallenhope: i didnt know that
[19:18] <thomasdelbeke> hi there: #'jaunty-development' plz?
[19:18] <afallenhope> durt, it's not recommended to use killall
[19:18] <sagredo> compiz is overriding my keyboard shortcut bindings. For  instance, I have <Alt>q bound to switch focused window to  Workspace1, <Alt>w to Workspace 2, ect. How can I change  Compiz's config to reflect my original bindings?
[19:18] <Flannel> thomasdelbeke: #ubuntu+1
[19:18] <durt> afallenhope, no?
[19:18] <gartral> l0bo: please ask real question
[19:18] <burhanudin> what are you recomended mr cmd10
[19:18] <riwa> afallenhope: why not?
[19:18] <packetcase> Flannel: Ok. Could you give me a pointer to a guide or something that could get him up and runnning?
[19:18] <afallenhope> riva , durt killall is dangerous and unportable. On some systems it tries to kill every process. Use pkill instead
[19:18] <burhanudin> what kind of live cd mr sebsebseb
[19:18] <thrillERboy> I've used killall once something bad happened
[19:18] <bill_hilly> ze_us: looks like we're out of luck with our wireless problems? I've been here a while and asked three times...
[19:19] <thrillERboy> also how to install themes?
[19:19] <afallenhope> riva, durt  I got that from #bash
[19:19] <cdm10> burhanudin: there's a version called Xubuntu that is better for systems with less RAM, you may want to try it.
[19:19] <sebsebseb> burhanudin:  the Ubuntu Live CD, that you boot your computer from, to try Ubuntu
[19:19] <ze_us> i dont understand why it works
[19:19] <ze_us> on fresh install with madwifi
[19:19] <afallenhope> !themes > thrillERboy
[19:19] <ze_us> drivers
[19:19] <riwa> if i have a program that "crashes" but is still running in the bg i usually use killall prog
[19:19] <MYM|Fear> durt i tried pulseaudio restart and alsa restart but that doesnt seem to work
[19:19] <durt> afallenhope, not like I told him sudo, good point I guess.
[19:19] <ze_us> and then stops
[19:19] <Flannel> packetcase: https://help.ubuntu.com/ and specifically the server guide therein.  For 8.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html for 8.10: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/index.html
[19:19] <MYM|Fear> durt but the hardware testing app made it right
[19:19] <thrillERboy> thanks ubottu afallenhope
[19:19] <Flannel> packetcase: What sort of servers is he looking to run anyway?
[19:20] <afallenhope> no prob thrillERboy
[19:20] <burhanudin> i've allready installed xubuntu but it seems same slowly xubuntu 8.10
[19:20] <ze_us> does your wired work?
[19:20] <ze_us> billa?
[19:20] <packetcase> Flannel: A simple home server
[19:20] <ze_us> billy?
[19:20] <afallenhope> !killall
[19:20] <gartral> thrillERboy: ubottu only wishes he had a soul to appreciate your thanks
[19:20] <afallenhope> pshh.. you suck ubottu  lol.
[19:20] <Jaq85> tell me please does wubi change boot loader or only edits boot.ini?
[19:20] <Flannel> packetcase: Yes, but what does he want to run on that server?
[19:20] <clearscreen> afallenhope: he doesnt even know about usermod :P
[19:20] <Flannel> Jaq85: It only edits boot.ini
[19:20] <afallenhope> eww! wubi
[19:20] <grawity> afallenhope: Why?
[19:20] <MYM|Fear> gartral lol
[19:20] <afallenhope> clearscreen, seriously?
[19:20] <Jaq85> åðôòë íùã
[19:20] <clearscreen> !usermod
[19:20] <durt> MYM|Fear,  take a look at /etc/init.d and use the name of the pulseaudio daemon. or man alsa to get the alsa -force resart command.
[19:20] <Jaq85> thank you
[19:20] <afallenhope> grawity, why what? I was kidding
[19:21] <sebsebseb> Jaq85: Wubi  is  not that good,  and if your  Windows  hard disk is fragmented,  Ubuntu will run slow as well,  plus the obvious if you get a nasty WIndows virus or some such,  that deletes  most of  Windows,  Ubuntu will probably go as well
[19:21] <burhanudin> mr cmd10 i feel shame talking on this chanel, if dont mind may i have your e-mail
[19:21] <Pepelargo> Does anybody know where can I set up the end of each page in Calc in order to print?? (like in Excel)
[19:21] <sebsebseb> afallenhope: yeah yeah, but  saying that without reasons to back it up, is not that helpful
[19:21] <afallenhope> crap, there's no xubuntu 8.04 eh? I can't stand intrepid at all
[19:21] <packetcase> Flannel: I dont't know probably audio, video and files to share between the windowns computer on the network
[19:23] <MYM|Fear> durt pulseaudio is at /etc/init.d/pulseaudio and alsa but it doesn't work
[19:23] <afallenhope> sebastien_, huh? I was totally helping
[19:23] <durt> afallenhope, sure there is.
[19:23] <gartral> afallenhope: what wrong with intrepid?
[19:23] <MYM|Fear> durt restarting, resetting or anything else doesn't work
[19:23] <Flannel> packetcase: Alright.  Yeah, those guides will work out for him.  He can also always come here and ask.
[19:23] <afallenhope> gartral, buggy as hell.
[19:23] <zleap> yeah the sound issue is annoying
[19:23] <sebsebseb> afallenhope: of course there is Xubuntu 8.04
[19:23] <Guest12726> what is the difference b/w xubuntu and ubuntu
[19:23] <burhanudin> what about hardware tunneling mr cmd10
[19:23] <durt> MYM|Fear, define 'doesn't work'.
[19:23] <afallenhope> sebsebseb, care to point me in the dir?
[19:23] <gartral> afallenhope: hah, and the security holes in hardy are any better???
[19:23] <Flannel> afallenhope: There is Xubuntu 8.04, yes.
[19:23] <linxeh> Guest12726: the window manager / environment - xubuntu uses xfce and ubuntu uses gnome
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Guest12726: Ubuntu uses Gnome,  Xubuntu uses  XFCE which is a more light waight version
[19:23] <noren> hi there, is there a way to know the cpu temp in ubuntu/kubuntu
[19:23] <zleap> xubuntu uses xfce, ubuntu has gnome
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Guest12726: as a result XFCE is like a cut down version of Gnome
[19:23] <packetcase> Flannel: Thanks. Hopefully he will convert from Windowns to a complete linux addict:-)
[19:23] <afallenhope> gartral, that's why you should run gentoo or slackware :-p
[19:23] <burhanudin> in linux ofcourse
[19:23] <zleap> i thought XFCE predated gnome
[19:23] <MYM|Fear> durt doesn't work = i am still not able to hear any sound from any media player or other app
[19:23] <sebsebseb> afallenhope: I expect you can find it if you do a Google search
[19:23] <gartral> sebsebseb: calling xfce lightweight is of great speculation, in reality and practice, they use abou the same resources
[19:24] <Guest12726> lm-sensors use for know temp
[19:24] <zleap> esp if you have gnome or kde installed as well as it will then run kde apps, but it still needs the kde libs and related loaded,
[19:24] <zleap> i think
[19:24] <durt> MYM|Fear, is FF/flash still running?
[19:24] <sebsebseb> zleap: yes at what you said, that's true
[19:24] <cjae> friend bought box preinstalled with kubuntu 8.10 installed, eth0 is realtek 8168 B controller, and lsmod shows the module listed, but network manager doesnt get an IP?
[19:25] <sebsebseb> zleap: Gnome can run  KDE apps, just as  KDE can run Gnome apps, with the correct libs installed
[19:25] <cjae> tried #kubuntu
[19:25] <afallenhope> sebsebseb, what are you talking about lol. xbuntu?
[19:25] <paolo_> hi. what is a GUI gnome program for viewing differences between two files ?
[19:25] <Guest12726> how we can talk to buddy seperately
[19:25] <zleap> not sure what the cost is in terms of performance,
[19:25] <sebsebseb> !pm
[19:25] <sebsebseb> Guest12726: click on their name in the list
[19:25] <durt> gartral, I'm starting to be a big fan of LXDE, but this is OT.
[19:26] <crdlb> paolo_: off the top of my head, there's one called 'meld'
[19:26] <MYM|Fear> durt ff is still but not flash
[19:26] <meoblast001> ahh my mouse wont work
[19:26] <dustin> cjae: how familiar are u with the command line?
[19:26] <ze_us> acer one aspire NETWORKING is not working, anyone care to help?
[19:26] <MYM|Fear> durt ill try viewing a video in ff
[19:26] <JohnTeddy> How can I find out what is using my sound card? I have no sound, and some app is blocking it.
[19:26] <cjae> dustin: yes
[19:26] <paolo_> crdlb: thanks
[19:26] <cjae> dustin: fair
[19:26] <cherva> what program to use to play games with wine on different X (tty9) ? gdmflexiserver requires a login ..... :(
[19:27] <crdlb> durt: LXDE is gtk, or is that not what you meant?
[19:27] <dustin> cjae: use -- sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:27] <crdlb> durt: oh, I read OT as QT :P
[19:27] <cjae> dustin: the module for the card is loaded
[19:27] <cjae> cjae: wrong person?
[19:27] <cjae> dustin: wrong person
[19:28] <dustin> cjae: well I can walk you through configuring these cards easier with gnome :)
[19:28] <Frez1> question ubuntu usplash doesn't work, goes always back to "letters" any help would be great
[19:28] <cjae> dustin: cli is fine
[19:29] <dustin> cjae: is it dhcp network?
[19:29] <cjae> yes
[19:29] <sebsebseb> Frez1: the boot up splash???
[19:29] <zleap> LXDE Looks nice
[19:29] <MYM|Fear> durt sorry got disconnected .
[19:29] <gartral> cjae: is the hardware setup to request DHCP? (really, it should auto detect, but rarities happen)
[19:30] <vKt5Qrh7a> can someone help me/
[19:30] <kernel32> open irc.malvager.com
[19:30] <MYM|Fear> durt i am viewing a video on youtube and listening to a song too but i have switched to alsa driver
[19:30] <sebsebseb> !helpme bigbucks
[19:30] <Pepelargo> I cant set up pages in Calc when moving the lines, can anybody help me please????
[19:30] <sebsebseb> !helpme |  bigbucks
[19:30] <cjae> gartral: well as far as I know
[19:30] <dustin> cjae: can you check dhcp client list on the router?(with an alternate computer)
[19:31] <MYM|Fear> durt also the pulseaudio is gone from the volume control->file->change device option
[19:31] <MYM|Fear> durt *pulseaudio option
[19:31] <durt> MYM|Fear, You probably killed off pulse.
[19:31] <cjae> gartral: the network manager is tries to obtain an ip but fails
[19:31] <afallenhope> oh! is there an issue with dhcpd or wpa_supplicant in ubuntu?
[19:31] <bigbucks> I cannot download anything on ubuntu, and everytime I boot, it takes me to the install page, but then I can boot from first hard disk and it goes on
[19:31] <thrillERboy> how to get gtk+ themes manager?
[19:31] <gartral> cjae: this isnt one of those stupid "Built for Vista" routers, is it? those have never worked with linux
[19:31] <bigbucks> and I can login  with my account
[19:31] <MYM|Fear> durt nope
[19:32] <gartral> bigbucks: take the CD out of the comp and boot
[19:32] <cjae> gartral: where is all this talk about routers coming from he doesnt have one
[19:32] <bigbucks> its a downloaded version
[19:32] <dustin> cjae: can we get the router specs: brand/model/speed
[19:32] <MYM|Fear> durt running /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart or start doesn't bring back that option
[19:32] <MYM|Fear> durt probably it would require a reboot
[19:32] <bigbucks> the .iso
[19:33] <gartral> cjae: if you dont have a router, that explains why you cant connect to one
[19:33] <dustin> cjae: sorry usualy the router or the isp assigns the IP address
[19:33] <bigbucks> in virtual machine
[19:33] <bigbucks> sorry
[19:33] <bigbucks> virtualbox
[19:33] <durt> MYM|Fear, then maybe it really is an intel sound issue.
[19:34] <kernel32> #join malvager
[19:34] <dustin> cjae: who is the isp and what kind of modem is it
[19:34] <durt> MYM|Fear, or try the alsa force restart command
[19:34] <cjae> dustin: he has two boxes and the other box is a dual boot with ubuntu and windows and it works fine
[19:35] <bigbucks> should I go through the install again?
[19:35] <miles_> hi. where do I find openoffice.org packages for jaunty with impress and 3d transitions?
[19:35] <dustin> cjae: what kind of modem is it-- it may act as a router
[19:35] <gartral> cjae: not sure wich one anymore, but i know there was an ISP that blacklisted all linux access to/from the internet, are you shure your with a "sane" isp?
[19:35] <bigbucks> hehehe
[19:35] <gartral> miles_: you compile them
[19:35] <MYM|Fear> durt i am currently able to hear sound on my system because of the hardware testing tool !
[19:36] <miles_> gartlal: funny, I thought that ubuntu was supposed to be the "easy" distro
[19:36] <gartral> miles_: jaunty is still beta
[19:37] <deany> miles_, http://blog.ibeentoubuntu.com/2009/03/extra-repositories-for-ubuntu-810-you.html
[19:37] <cjae> gartral forget it telling me that I cannot connect because I don't have a router is fucking stupid I looking for answers like using lsmod | grep eth0 and stuff like that I just told you that there is a dual boot machine that works fine on the connect
[19:37] <gartral> deany: hes running 9.04
[19:37] <miles_> deany: thanks.
[19:37] <deany> oh jaunty... i dunno then
[19:37] <cjae> connection
[19:37] <burhanudin> tolong dong
[19:37] <clearscreen> !jaunty
[19:37] <burhanudin> ada yang mau bantu
[19:38] <gartral> cjae: i know this problem is frustrating, bu theres no need for that language here
[19:38] <clearscreen> !english | burhanudin
[19:38]  * JEEBcz cries every time someone mentions VLC as a media player - it's a streaming platform with half-working playback after all >_>
[19:38] <cjae> he has to manually take the cord off the dual boot machine and plug it in to the one that does no obtain an ip address
[19:38] <miles_> deany: I mean I have jaunty, but openoffice is compiled without support for 3d transitions in impress. that's why I am asking for some extra repo
[19:38] <chotaz> where do I get and how do I install custom visual themes for compiz?
[19:38] <clearscreen> JEEBcz: VLC is awesome
[19:38] <sebsebseb> JEEBcz: yeah Banshee FTW   that is the 8.10 version.  8.04  get the ppa for a good version
[19:39] <burhanudin> ok but dont get made
[19:39] <sebsebseb> VLC is nice though as well
[19:39] <burhanudin> my english is very bad
[19:39] <JEEBcz> clearscreen, the bugs in its ASS support and MP4/MKV support bugs are meh
[19:39] <bigbucks> whats the best Linux OS?
[19:39] <clearscreen> JEEBcz: i rarely play those
[19:39] <sebsebseb> burhanudin: what is your language?
[19:39] <miles_> deany: it's not clear from what I read, whether openoffice has to be ./configured with 3d support or only added as an extension
[19:39] <grawity> bigbucks: Depends on what you need.
[19:39] <sebsebseb> !best |  bigbucks
[19:39] <clearscreen> bigbucks: this is #ubuntu, what do you think the answer is going to be?
[19:39] <dustin> cjae: sorry for being so frustrating but we are trying to help, can you get into the working machine and find out what ip address is assigned to it?
[19:39] <gartral> banshee is EVIL its made by novell and their EVIL, ubuntu should totally sever itself from novell!
[19:39] <durt> bigbucks, linspire :-)
[19:39] <v1mmer> how do I disable http_proxy settings, set in .bashrc "properly" so that apt-get does not use these proxy settings?
[19:39] <burhanudin> bahasa indonesia
[19:39] <chotaz> sebsebseb: Banshee for video/audio or both?
[19:39] <grawity> clearscreen: Well, I was going to suggest Debian for servers.
[19:39] <cjae> either the module is incorrect which is hard to believe, since the distro has been updated
[19:39] <bigbucks> it will be for a server
[19:39] <JEEBcz> I also prefer a player that can go around in a H.264 stream without trying to decode the wrong frames, clearscreen
[19:40] <pitwalker> How can i connect to a wifi router via CLI? "iwlist scan" is done
[19:40] <cjae> I meant to say dmesg | grep eth0 to before
[19:40] <LjL> bigbucks: still not a question for here, move it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:40] <sebsebseb> !id | burhanudin
[19:40] <MYM|Fear> clearscreen, JEEBcz , sebsebseb try songbird, it is good too http://getsongbird.com
[19:40] <clearscreen> grawity: I couldn't agree more, I come from a debian 'background' as well.. but yeah, most people will still answer Ubuntu to his question in here :P
[19:40] <JEEBcz> (as in decoding a B/P frame before an I frame f.ex. which VLC likes to do)
[19:40] <JEEBcz> MYM|Fear, thanks for the offer but I guess I'll keep to my mplayer :)
[19:40] <burhanudin> do you understands about what i'am saying mr sebsebseb
[19:40] <cjae> or the network manager is broken it not ISP and router, and no it is not an router modem
[19:40] <dustin> cjae: from the discription I am seeing I would think that it is an address asignment problem, not a hordware or linux problem
[19:41] <sebsebseb> burhanudin: no I have missed stuff you have said
[19:41] <clearscreen> I'll stick with VLC for vids, and rhythmbox for music :P
[19:41] <rysiek|pl> hello
[19:41] <JEEBcz> clearscreen, please do as you wish - but as long as it's borked it IMHO shouldn't be recommended
[19:41] <burhanudin> let me guess mr ubottu an indonesian
[19:41] <v1mmer> How do I disable http_proxy settings, set in .bashrc "properly" so that apt-get does not use these proxy settings?
[19:41] <clearscreen> JEEBcz: I didn't recommend anything :P
[19:41] <JEEBcz> Some of the borks are smaller, some bigger
[19:41] <sebsebseb> !bot |  burhanudin
[19:42] <chotaz> !media > ChotaZ
[19:42] <cjae> dustin: are you deaf he takes the little blue cord out of ethernet on broken computer and plugs into dual boot box and it works
[19:42] <UKGent> For some reason - I have lost my panels. Managed to establish some launchers but no panels - what is the best way of getting them back?
[19:42] <dustin> cjae I have had problems with my own modems not assigning the new ip address to a new machine because of lease time errors
[19:42] <cjae> dustin: both oses
[19:42] <burhanudin> thank you mr ubottu
[19:42] <JEEBcz> also, songbird as a music player looks pretty nice, I'll have to check its support for all the stuff I need
[19:43] <daftykins> i use songbird, it's ok but it's no winamp 5
[19:43] <zaccour> im trying to manually connect to my ps3 and it keeps telling me internet connection failed, dns error
[19:43] <zaccour> in ifconfic is nameserver my dns?
[19:43] <JEEBcz> daftykins, I don't need winamp :/ I'm one of those people using foobar2000 on win32
[19:43] <cjae> dustin: but then it would not work when he did it again and the next day and the next day
[19:43] <MYM|Fear> daftykins: in what respect ?
[19:43] <nightrid3r> zaccour: yes
[19:43] <ChrizC> anybody know a Linux alternative to ShortKeys?
[19:43] <clearscreen> daftykins: Winamp 2.x was awesome, winamp 5.x was WAY too bloated (all that media library crap)
[19:43] <sebsebseb> burhanudin: more like thank th person that triggered the bot to say the thing, which was me
[19:44] <daftykins> actually media library is the best feature imo
[19:44] <clearscreen> MEH
[19:44] <daftykins> i never found Winamp that great until i found it
[19:44] <JEEBcz> media libraries are ok, but why in the hell did they stick video etc. there >_>
[19:44] <zaccour> nightrid3r, how come i still get this dns error then??
[19:44] <daftykins> well, the only way i've found to mimic having a playlist winamp style is to create one and drag tunes into that
[19:44] <daftykins> but it's quite a poor man's solution
[19:44] <chotaz> Exaile!
[19:44] <chotaz> !exaile
[19:44] <daftykins> JEEBcz, yeah but i just disable video entirely with it
[19:44] <dustin> my modem has the option for "eternal lease time" however if this is not an issue I would try using a different network manager
[19:45] <clearscreen> All I want from a music player is a playlist, and some buttons for control, and a decent search function and integration to it's environment (ex: dragging music files to the player)
[19:45] <clearscreen> winamp 5.x is way too overkill for my taste :P
[19:45] <zaccour> whats a dns error?
[19:45] <chotaz> clearscreen: Exaile
[19:45] <clearscreen> !dns | zaccour
[19:45] <daftykins> an error translating a domain to an IP address
[19:45] <sebsebseb> winamp is pretty much offtopic here :)   unless your on about running it in wine, which I woudn't recommend, since   Desktop Linux has better music players
[19:45] <dustin> cjae: which network manager are you using
[19:45] <clearscreen> !exaile | me
[19:45] <daftykins> sebsebseb i disagree, i haven't found anything as good as winamp yet
[19:46] <sebsebseb> daftykins: banshee? songbird?
[19:46] <daftykins> tried both
[19:46] <chotaz> daftykins: Winamp is the best, pure and simple, want a good alternative fo linux? Exaile.
[19:46] <clearscreen> audacious? :P
[19:46] <sebsebseb> daftykins: that has to be the 8.10 version of Banshee, 8.04 sucks
[19:46] <zigovr> hi all, is that normal that a joliet formatted cd may be unreadable for nomal users ?
[19:46] <zigovr> how can we force proper rights on files ?
[19:46] <daftykins> i'm running 8.10 with PPA based banshee sebsebseb
[19:46] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  zigovr
[19:46] <cjae> dustin: knetwork manager
[19:47] <daftykins> installing Exaile now chotaz
[19:47] <zaccour> im tryin to connect to my ps3 and i keep getting dns error
[19:47] <chotaz> daftykins: give it a try ^^
[19:47] <deany> i still prefer xmms (yes i know.. i know already)... still the only one with the EQ support that works best
[19:47] <zaccour> auto install fails, manual install ip is succeeded, but i get a dns error
[19:47] <jklock> chotaz: xmms reminds of winamp in its purest form
[19:47] <zigovr> sebsebseb: thanks but you can't change file permissions on a cd, it's read only -_-
[19:47] <gartral> deany: XMPP was the best
[19:47] <Pepelargo> PLEASE; HOW can I adjust the BLUE lines in CALC in order to adjust the pages????
[19:48] <sebsebseb> guys the media player stuff is offtopic, maybe you should take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:48] <goatslacker> xmmp got replaced by the superior audacious
[19:48] <Pepelargo> I move them but they don't stick where U put them
[19:48] <zaccour> really
[19:48] <sebsebseb> zigovr: true,  but you can use sudo on it
[19:48] <jklock> yeah I know it :(
[19:48] <deany> audacious goes tinny and horribl when EQ enabled.
[19:48] <cjae> dustin: from what I can tell dmesg | grep eth0 doesnt show the module name
[19:48] <chotaz> jklock: Hi there ^^
[19:48] <dustin> cjae: there is a lot of traffic in here and I am having a hard time catching everything so I started a channel if u wish to join it #dustins-helpline
[19:48] <zigovr> sebsebseb: I want it usable for normal users, it's for my parents, they're not going to use sudo
[19:49] <Supertanker> Hi, I just installed libpam-chroot and set it up, but it's not working
[19:49] <Supertanker> I get this: sshd[5690]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_chroot.so):  /lib/security/pam_chroot.so: undefined symbol: __stack_chk_fail_local
[19:49] <Supertanker> Any ideas?
[19:49] <sebsebseb> zigovr: you set Ubuntu up,  you put apps on, and they just use them,  that was the case with my little 5 year old brother at the time with uhmmmm.  he is 7 now.  so  yes it should be the case with your parants to
[19:49] <sebsebseb> zigovr: either you help a computer ignorant set up Ubuntu, or you do it for them
[19:49] <sebsebseb> zigovr: and then they can use it
[19:50] <chotaz> w32codecs from medibuntu is the best choice for adio/video codecs?
[19:50] <jklock> zigovr: knowing about and using are two different things.
[19:50] <gartral> chotaz: only if you want to play WMA/WMV filea
[19:50] <gartral> files
[19:51] <gaz-> anyone recommend a pdf reader
[19:51] <chotaz> gartral: I was aiming for avi,mkv and hd movies
[19:51] <tuffgong> hey i have a usb hard disk where are the files are locked and read only
[19:51] <tuffgong> how can i change this
[19:51] <sebsebseb> !pdf
[19:51] <gartral> chotaz: if there DRMed, your SOL
[19:51] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  tuffgong
[19:51] <chotaz> gartral: English please? xD
[19:51] <JEEBcz> chotaz, a recent enough build of mplayer should be sufficient (esp. if it's build with ffmpeg-mt)
[19:52] <Aggrav8d> hi, ubuntu!  I've been a really terrible sysadmin for a while now and I want to get better.  What resources do you recommend?
[19:52] <gartral> chotaz: DRM or SOL?
[19:52] <clearscreen> I think he means
[19:52] <clearscreen> 'if they're DRMed, you're (shit out of luck?'
[19:52] <clearscreen> something like that :P
[19:52] <rysiek|pl> guys, how do I change the system-wide locale from command line?
[19:52] <ubuntu_> hello!
[19:52] <zigovr> sebsebseb: you shouldn't need sudo anything to access a cdrom if it's properly setup
[19:52] <clearscreen> rysiek|pl: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[19:52] <daftykins> chotaz, i don't really like the way Exaile and Amarok display music in just a single list
[19:52] <ubuntu_> which is the best filesystem for booting from usb-stick?
[19:53] <TheMaestro> im facing some problems configuring tolda
[19:53] <TheMaestro> *tilda
[19:53] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_: there isn't really a best file system, so Ext3 should be ok
[19:53] <zigovr> what I'm looking for is the proper mount option to make it accessible by anyone
[19:53] <TheMaestro> has anyone used it before
[19:53] <TheMaestro> ?
[19:53] <rysiek|pl> clearscreen: that just re-generates the locales, does *not* let me choose a new one
[19:53] <chotaz> daftykins: really? what do u use?
[19:53] <clearscreen> rysiek|pl: doesn't? couldve sworn that it did last time... mmm
[19:53] <rysiek|pl> clearscreen: oh, and it's 8.04.2 here
[19:53] <daftykins> songbird at the moment chotaz but i'm not 100% happy with it either
[19:54] <clearscreen> rysiek|pl: I'm running 9.04, they might have changed that.. lets see if the bot knows :P
[19:54] <clearscreen> !locale
[19:54] <bigbucks> is there an ubuntu server iso I can download?
[19:54] <rysiek|pl> clearscreen: yeah, I remember using it to do just that, but neither here nor at my friend's box does it let me choose a new locale
[19:54] <ubuntu_> ok
[19:54] <bassliner> there is no perfect music player for linux. period.
[19:54] <ubuntu_> and what is the best disklabel type?
[19:54] <sebsebseb> bigbucks: yes, but you can run the server stuff in desktop edition
[19:54] <prohna> anyone used dvtm? i cant figure out how to use it. i can get it started but how to open more than one terminal escapes me
[19:54] <sebsebseb> !best |  ubuntu_
[19:54] <ubuntu_> sorry but i don't have any idea how to setup my usb-stick for live-booting.
[19:54] <bigbucks> what is the difference between server and desktop?
[19:54] <sebsebseb> !usb
[19:55] <clearscreen> rysiek|pl: sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[19:55] <chotaz> i just uninstalled totem and rhythmbox, i think ill get Mplayer or vlc for video and songbird for audio
[19:55] <rysiek|pl> clearscreen: been there. no such package - localeconf
[19:55] <ubuntu_> and the internet don't tell me anything about filesystems
[19:55] <sebsebseb> bigbucks: server won't have desktop stuff installed by default
[19:55] <clearscreen> rysiek|pl: you need to grab it
[19:55] <clearscreen> rysiek|pl: sudo apt-get install localeconf
[19:55] <chotaz> ubuntu_ Internet is all about filesystems
[19:55] <chotaz> !wikipedia
[19:55] <rysiek|pl> clearscreen: yeah, and there is no such package
[19:55] <bigbucks> I will be using it as a server
[19:55] <bassliner> chotaz: did you try audacious and exaile?
[19:55] <clearscreen> rysiek|pl: 'Package `localeconf' is not installed and no info is available.' ... i see
[19:55] <clearscreen> Kind of weird for the wiki page to state this then :/
[19:56] <chotaz> bassliner: tried exaile, but just like daftyskins dont like the way it display the music in just 1 list
[19:56] <thepython> clearscreen: dpkg-reconfigure locale  ??
[19:56] <bassliner> chotaz: what you mean by "in just 1 list"?
[19:56] <clearscreen> thepython: only regenerates it
[19:56] <bassliner> chotaz: i mean you could make multiple playlists and such
[19:56] <thepython> clearscreen: Allows you to switch languages too though, correct?
[19:56] <clearscreen> Oh well, rysiek already left.. but he couldve manually edited /etc/environment
[19:56] <Zedde> Anyone know of a way to share program in linux like you can with a citrix metaframe ?
[19:56] <clearscreen> thepython: that's what I thought, but apparently not
[19:57] <chotaz> bassliner: talking more about the way it organises your library, I'll be getting audacious and give it a try
[19:57] <thepython> clearscreen: Strange. I used it just the other day.
[19:57] <linxeh> Zedde: NX can do that, or just native X
[19:57] <Zedde> true a webinterface ?
[19:57] <bassliner> chotaz: well probably what you want is something like amarok or itunes...
[19:57] <chotaz> bassliner: winamp is the keyword.
[19:57] <clearscreen> thepython: wasn't me that had the problem, but dpkg-reconfigure only regenerates locales: http://paste.ubuntu.com/140255/
[19:57] <sebsebseb> bassliner: Itunes does not work in Wine, but there is a good Itunes alternative
[19:58] <linxeh> Zedde: NX has management tools on top that allow you to manage an app catalogue I believe, www.nomachine.org
[19:58] <linxeh> or .com
[19:58] <clearscreen> localeconf doesn't work, so I guess for now people should just edit /etc/environment
[19:58] <bassliner> chotaz: on windows i use winamp to just play single files i want to doubleclick and foobar2000 for larger playlists
[19:58] <^icy-ice^> Hi, is here anybody who speaks well English?
[19:58] <sebsebseb> !english
[19:58] <clearscreen> !ask | ^icy-ice^
[19:58] <Zedde> linxeh: thanks
[19:58] <chotaz> bassliner: I don't use windows anymore ^^
[19:58] <linxeh> Zedde: why would you inflict metaframe on your users though ? :(
[19:58] <bassliner> chotaz: foobar seems to be damn good
[19:58] <^icy-ice^> Is the following sentence right or wrong? "Canonical file path pointing to MP3 which is played when alarm has been invoked"
[19:58] <sebsebseb> I guess there are people here who speak well English, considering this is the main Engilsh Ubuntu channel
[19:58] <thepython> clearscreen: Fun.
[19:58] <bassliner> chotaz: well i'm a musician and it's mostly impossible to make music without it
[19:59] <sebsebseb> !ot
[19:59] <chotaz> bassliner: ^^
[19:59] <sebsebseb> icy ice go there
[19:59] <bassliner> chotaz: tho i'm using ubuntu on my work box and on my netbook
[19:59] <chotaz> bassliner: OSX?
[19:59] <Zedde> When you work at some komapnies they have firewalls/web senss that blocks some sites
[19:59] <thepython> bassliner: foobar works fine in wine
[19:59] <^icy-ice^> sebsebseb: can you please tell me "right" or "wrong", first?
[19:59] <linxeh> bassliner: impossible to make music without foobar ?
[19:59] <bassliner> chotaz: i'd rather stop making music before using osx.
[19:59] <RORgasm> hey guys i have ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop.... i have 40 gb of hd free.. i want to install xp on my machine and dual boot without loosing my current ubuntu partition
[19:59] <bassliner> linxeh: you got me wrong :)
[19:59] <RORgasm> any help
[19:59] <RORgasm> ?
[19:59] <chotaz> bassliner: really? xD
[19:59] <sebsebseb> icy  ice, depends on the context etc,  and it's ot here
[20:00]  * ^icy-ice^ will help with GNU/Linux issue to a person who answers his question.
[20:00] <Zedde> to get around  that you can connect to a server and there you have shares programes firefox
[20:00] <thepython> RORgasm: You need to resize the partition first. You'll probably need to reinstall grub afterwards too.. Windows bootloader replaces it.
[20:00] <RORgasm> thepython, how do i do that?
[20:00] <bassliner> chotaz: if it would run on my usual hardware i'd probably use osx
[20:00] <bassliner> chotaz: it does not
[20:00] <linxeh> Zedde: I would sack anyone that does that
[20:00] <thepython> RORgasm: Boot into the LiveCD & use GParted for partitioning purposes.
[20:00] <bassliner> chotaz: and yeah i thought about a hackintosh
[20:01] <Zedde> linxeh: hehe,
[20:01] <linxeh> and indeed, I'd be sacked if I did it from work :p
[20:01] <Mozillero> que podria hacer para comer ?
[20:01] <RORgasm> thepython, and can i use the livecd to install grub again too?
[20:01] <sebsebseb> !ot
[20:01] <LjL> !es | Mozillero
[20:01] <bassliner> chotaz: however, the apple hardware just isn't worth the money
[20:01] <Mozillero> launch !!!!
[20:01] <chotaz> bassliner: sooo tru.
[20:01] <thepython> RORgasm: Yes, I'll find a tutorial for you.
[20:01] <linxeh> Zedde: we are getting offtopic now anyway :)
[20:01] <RORgasm> thepython, thanx
[20:01] <zaccour> whats a dns error?
[20:01] <Zedde> linxeh: problem is that my conslut email is getting blocked byt the clients FW
[20:01] <thepython> RORgasm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[20:01] <bassliner> zaccour: couldn't resolve host name: zaccour.com
[20:01] <Zedde> linxeh: ya :)
[20:02] <RORgasm> thepython, thanx again
[20:02] <zaccour> i got a dns error while tryin to manually connect my ps3 to the internet
[20:02] <Mozillero> hello. I hate linux... mac is better !!!!
[20:02] <chotaz> bassliner: I copied over 5GB of music from a DVD to my Music folder but every track as a lock near the icon?
[20:03] <thepython> !Linux
[20:03] <sebsebseb> !mac
[20:03] <thepython> !Flaming
[20:03] <TheMaestro> does anyone here knw how to reomove old key bindings in tilda
[20:03] <TheMaestro> ?
[20:03] <TheMaestro> its frustrating me
[20:03] <durt> !troll > Mozillero
[20:04] <graingert> chotaz-> hey
[20:04] <chotaz> graingert->Hello
[20:04] <graingert> chotaz-> your permissions are messed up
[20:04] <graingert> chotaz-> ls -altr them
[20:04] <chotaz> graingert->how to fix them?
[20:04] <graingert> chotaz-> to see the permisions
[20:04] <chotaz> you mean in the music folder?
[20:04] <graingert> chotaz-> they use the relevant chown or chmod command
[20:04] <graingert> chotaz-> then*
[20:05] <chotaz> graingert-> is there anyway to just give root permisions to my user?
[20:05] <thepython> chotaz: sudo / su -
[20:05] <sebsebseb> !noroot
[20:05] <sebsebseb> !sudo
[20:05] <chotaz> Was asking permanently ^^
[20:06] <zaccour> i got a dns error while tryin to manually connect my ps3 to the internet
[20:06] <thepython> chotaz: No. You shouldn't run as root no matter what.
[20:06] <Zedde> linxeh: thanks now I have some reading befor I go to sleep :)
[20:06] <kitche> chotaz: sudo -i if you need a rooto shell for a very long time
[20:06] <chotaz> thepython: kk ^^
[20:06] <thepython> chotaz: chown <username>:<usernamegroup> gives you rights to it
[20:07] <rysiek|pl> clearscreen: I'm back, sorry, got disconnected
[20:07] <chotaz> graingert-> what should I look for alter ls -altr in the music folder?
[20:07] <chotaz> after*
[20:07] <digitalfallacy> can i download ubuntu packages as i download windows programs
[20:07] <digitalfallacy> ?
[20:07] <graingert> chotaz-> root:root
[20:07] <graingert> chotaz-> implies the bad
[20:07] <rootsnatch> digitalfallacy: ya you can try getdeb.net
[20:07] <thepython> digitalfallacy: Ubuntu binaries are incompatible with Windows?
[20:07] <graingert> digitalfallacy-> yes and no, mainly no
[20:07] <chotaz> graingert: they all say chotaz chotaz
[20:08] <thepython> chotaz: You own the files then
[20:08] <zaccour> i got a dns error while tryin to manually connect my ps3 to the internet. how do i find whats up with this?
[20:08] <graingert> chotaz-> what does the rxwrxwrxw say?
[20:08] <thepython> zaccour: Can you ping your router?
[20:08] <rysiek|pl> clearscreen: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales works AOK on Debian Lenny
[20:08] <chotaz> graingert: -r-xr-xr-x
[20:08] <ryanCH> to install  -complete- KDE, you just install, "kde-core" right?
[20:08] <zaccour> thepython, i dont have a router
[20:09] <zaccour> thepython, im plugged straight in
[20:09] <graingert> chotaz-> chmod +w * maybe, what do you other lot think?
[20:09] <thepython> ryanCH: That's the kde libraries package.
[20:09] <thepython> zaccour: Have you used the pppoe connection utility?
[20:09] <meoblast001> hi.. i have OpenJRE and i ran webcam studio and got "exec: 88: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java: not found"... how do i fix this?
[20:09] <zaccour> thepython, no
[20:09] <ryanCH> thepython: what do i install then?
[20:09] <thepython> zaccour: Recommend using it.
[20:10] <zaccour> thepython, i dont even know what that is
[20:10] <digitalfallacy> thepython: no i want ubuntu packages ... but i want to keep them no do an online istall
[20:10] <digitalfallacy> *install
[20:10] <zaccour> thepython, i dont even know what pppoe is
[20:10] <thepython> zaccour: Should be under the system menu somewhere
[20:10] <digitalfallacy> rootsnatch: ok thnx
[20:10] <zaccour> how do i find my pppoe?
[20:10] <thepython> digitalfallacy: an offline install you mean?
[20:10] <zaccour> thepython, how do i find my pppoe?
[20:11] <deany> whats up with Exaile and its EQ.  There are default settings much like winamps which is what i want so thats a good start, except, the EQ on/off whatever the setting makes NO difference at all..
[20:11] <thepython> zaccour: If plugged directly in it's pppoe I believe. I have no experience connecting in that manner & there is a utility for it.
[20:11] <chotaz> graingert: can I apply that for ever file at the same time?
[20:11] <graingert> chotaz-> that's what the * does
[20:11] <thepython> ryanCH: kde-base I believe, or kubuntu-desktop for all the packages in kubuntu
[20:11] <chotaz> graingert: I missed that xD
[20:11] <graingert> chotaz-> don't do it yet
[20:11] <chotaz> ok
[20:12] <graingert> chotaz-> see if other people think?
[20:12] <chotaz> thepython: Should I chmod +w* my music folder?
[20:12] <durt> zaccour, if your connecting with pppoe, you will have a ppp0 entry in if config, the utility to configure pppoe is pppoeconf.
[20:12] <durt> *ifconfig even
[20:12] <gs94> hi, i wanted to get the size of a partition in a script so i used 'sudo sfdisk -s partition', but it gets the size in blocks, how can i know the size of a block in bytes so that i can get the total size in bytes ?
[20:12] <ryanCH> thepython: thnx :)
[20:13] <chotaz> lklock: Should I chmod +w* my music folder?
[20:13] <thepython> chotaz: I don't see what that should do. If you mean chmod a+w *, that gives all uses write permissions.
[20:13] <clearscreen> !repeat | chotaz
[20:13] <macman> hey all .. im did a sshfs and mounted a remote computer on my network .. what is the fastest way to cp all information/directorys to my local machine ?
[20:13] <thepython> users**
[20:13] <zaccour> durt, i will look for that brb
[20:13] <twolane> chotaz: chmod 755 /path/to/music/ folder is the norm.
[20:13] <graingert> twolane-> thanks
[20:13] <graingert> chotaz-> that should be it, " chmod 755 /path/to/music/"
[20:14] <thepython> perhaps consider chmod -R
[20:14] <graingert> should there not be some recursive-ness? twolane
[20:14] <graingert> twolane-> :-p too slow
[20:14] <thepython> chmod -R is recursive
[20:14] <graingert> thepython-> I know
[20:14] <chotaz> graingert: so if my music is in the default music folder chmod 755 Música
[20:14] <prince_jammys> thepython: this will make all the music files executable
[20:15] <graingert> chotaz-> no
[20:15] <twolane> thepython: the files should be 644 unless for unusual reasons, so -R isn't a great idea.
[20:15] <thepython> 644 then
[20:15] <graingert> chotaz-> don't do it!
[20:15] <zaccour> durt, how do i find pppoe?
[20:15] <chotaz> graingert: didnt ^^
[20:15] <graingert> chotaz-> 644 instead
[20:15] <dustin> is there anyone in here that is proficient with UCK
[20:15] <graingert> chotaz-> is the current consensus
[20:15] <chotaz> graingert: I'm trying to unserstand what each  command means
[20:15] <chotaz> does*
[20:15] <graingert> !uck | dustin
[20:15] <thepython> you add octal values for each right
[20:15] <Q_Continuum> So I told Transmission to enable the tray icon, but it's not showing up, and I minimized it, so I can't bring it back up.  Any idea what would cause tray icons to disappear?  (8.10)
[20:15] <thepython> +1 = executable, +2 for read, +3 for write
[20:15] <prince_jammys> No. setting the executable bit for directories is fine.
[20:16] <durt> zaccour, sorry I missed your original question. 'ifconfig in a terminal will list all your network interfaces.
[20:16] <gs94> hi, anyway to get the size of a partition in bytes ?
[20:16] <prince_jammys> just don't -R
[20:16] <zaccour> durt, i did that, and i dont see pppoe there
[20:16] <thepython> gs94: fdisk?
[20:16] <dustin> I have UCK and wish to make a custom server disk that includes gnome
[20:17] <chotaz> graingert: chmod 644 ~/Music | Did I do it right?
[20:17] <gs94> thepython: tried sfdisk, ok will try fdisk now
[20:17] <tamjit> Hello All
[20:17] <prince_jammys> chotaz: 755 was correct
[20:17] <twolane> chotaz: chmod 755 ~/Music/
[20:17] <thepython> chotaz: :P
[20:17] <graingert> chotaz-> not a clue anymore
[20:17] <tamjit> can anyone plz tell me how do i modify boot?
[20:17] <prince_jammys> you will not be able to open a directory without the executable bit set.
[20:17] <graingert> tamjit-> replace it with a shoe
[20:18] <chotaz> congrats graingert,twolane,prince_jammys,thepython, you just lost me with all the number stuff xD
[20:18] <graingert> !question | tamjit
[20:18] <graingert> chotaz-> I got lost a long time ago
[20:18] <mogi22> need help properly configuring ldap root/admin pw.  method (using rootdn/rootpw in slapd.conf) works in feisty, but after upgrade to hardy, fails
[20:18] <thepython> chotaz: 1st number = sticky, 2nd number = root, 3rd number = group, 4th number = user
[20:18] <durt> zaccour, how do you connect with your computer? (just read your prob).
[20:18] <dustin> has anyone here created a http server with gnome desktop?
[20:18] <mogi22> tried deleting /var/lib/ldap/* and reloading ldif files and all.
[20:18] <thepython> chotaz: +1 = executable, +2 = read, +3 = write
[20:18] <chotaz> well I did 755, terminal didnt output anything, is that normal?
[20:18] <scgtrp> is there a way to run the livecd without a cd burner?
[20:19] <prince_jammys> chotaz: yes, that's fine.
[20:19] <mogi22> using ssha via ldappasswd to get encrypted pw and pasting it into slapd.conf and base ldif file.
[20:19] <sebsebseb> scgtrp: a virtual machine
[20:19] <prince_jammys> chotaz: you should now be able to access that directory
[20:19] <scgtrp> sebsebseb: on real hardware
[20:19] <chotaz> i was able to acess the folder
[20:19] <mogi22> not sure what else to do?  but i do know the pw is the prob, perhaps the way i encrypt it?
[20:19] <zaccour> durt, i connect with a cable connection via ethernet cable.
[20:19] <twolane> thepython: thats wrong
[20:19] <chotaz> but the music files had an orange lock on the icon
[20:19] <thepython> +2 for write?
[20:19] <sebsebseb> scgtrp:  make the ISO into CDFS boot it from Grub,  I think that can be done, but not easy to do that
[20:19] <chotaz> and wasnt able to play them
[20:19] <zaccour> durt, i don't see anything about pppoe in ifconfig
[20:19] <scgtrp> (need to check out how it handles my video card, since it's broken in debian but the internet says it works in ubuntu
[20:20] <meoblast001> i have OpenJRE and i ran webcam studio and got "exec: 88: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java: not found"... how do i fix this?
[20:20] <thepython> twolane: Screw it. Letters are easier
[20:20] <durt> zaccour, just lo and eth0 then?
[20:20] <twolane> thepython: 4 = w,  2 = r  1 = x   4+2+1 = 7
[20:20] <zaccour> durt, yes
[20:20] <prince_jammys> wrong again
[20:20] <thepython> twolane: Thank you & sorry.
[20:20] <mharris> man chmod
[20:20] <twolane> thepython: my mistake, 4 = r,  2 = w  1 = x   4+2+1 = 7
[20:21] <chotaz> twolane: so 777 would give everything to everyone?
[20:21] <thepython> twolane: Thank you again.
[20:21] <thepython> chotaz: Yes.
[20:21] <durt> zaccour, and no probs connecting, dns etc. (with the computer).
[20:21] <twolane> chotaz: yes i would
[20:21] <twolane> chotaz: yes it would, 777
[20:21] <prince_jammys> chotaz: yes, though not necessary on regular files. just dirs, if you want to give read/write access to all.
[20:21] <chotaz> the second 7 is for the current user and the third for the current usergoup?
[20:21] <gs94> thepython: no same, saw the man page, it gets in blocks not bytes and i don't know how to get the size of a block
[20:22] <zaccour> durt, the computer connects just fine
[20:22] <durt> zaccour, what are you running on the ps3, OS wise?
[20:22] <thepython> chotaz: Or you can use letters! a/g/u/o
[20:22] <twolane> chotaz: user, group, others in that order
[20:22] <mogi22> ok simpler question, how do you change the root ldap pw (i have root access to ldap server)?
[20:22] <dustin> I have UCK, I have 8.10 server iso, I have 8.10 desktop iso, and I can burn a dvdrom, how can I work these into each other so that I can create a server package with gnome desktop?
[20:22] <thepython> gs94: Varies depending on partition.
[20:22] <graingert> chotaz-> but you don't want 777
[20:22] <graingert> chotaz-> ever
[20:22] <zaccour> durt, i have Ubuntu on the ps3, but i use to be able to connect just fine when i had dsl, but not since i switched to cable
[20:22] <graingert> chotaz-> really
[20:22] <chotaz> graingert: no i dont, would ruin the security concept
[20:23] <graingert> chotaz-> :-D
[20:23] <trinidadflores> is there a way to make xchat start up when ubuntu starts up?
[20:23] <thepython> gs94: You set that information when you created the partition
[20:23] <durt> zaccour, is the ps3 getting an IP address?
[20:23] <sebsebseb> trinidadflores: yes  there is, and I would recommend Konversation :)
[20:23] <thepython> trinidadflores: System->Preferences->Sessions?
[20:23] <chotaz> trinidadflores: System-Prefs-Sessions add xchat
[20:23] <zaccour> durt, when i put it in manually yes
[20:23] <zaccour> durt, but internet connect fails
[20:23] <gs94> thepython: yes but i'm writing a script, it needs to do it automatically
[20:24] <thrillERboy> hey guys how to disable the annoying system speaker beep :/
[20:24] <thepython> gs94: Ohh.. There's probably something you do with /proc or else /dev.. I don't know anything specifically off the top of my head.
[20:24] <gs94> thepython: ok thanks for your time
[20:25] <dustin> thrillerboy: open case, unplug speaker , reboot computer? :D
[20:25] <durt> zaccour, correct netmask, gateway, dns server(s)?
[20:25] <twolane> thrillERboy: menu, system, preferences, sound, sound events tab.
[20:25] <thrillERboy> haha mine is onboard speaker :p
[20:25] <trinidadflores> sebsebseb<> why do you recommend konversation?
[20:25] <chotaz> Anyone got tips about ubuntu customization? I already have compiz plus the manager for all the pimped effects.
[20:25] <zaccour> durt, i put in all the correct info for that
[20:25] <durt> zaccour, I assume your manually editing /etc/network/interfaces.
[20:25] <sebsebseb> trinidadflores: ,because I find it much better than Xchat,  however it's  a KDE app and so it will put KDE stuff on, if you don't already have it in Gnome/Ubuntu
[20:26] <dustin> thrillerboy: I think you can usualy dissable it in bios
[20:26] <thrillERboy> no dustin twolane's solution worked
[20:26] <zaccour> durt, /etc/network/interfaces command not found
[20:27] <durt> zaccour, it's a config file not a command
[20:27] <syockit> sebsebseb: konversation is fun, but kubuntu maintainers are moving to drop  kde3 lib maintenance
[20:27] <zaccour> oh ok
[20:27] <durt> zaccour, open it and take a look at it.
[20:27] <zaccour> durt, do you thing getting a wireless router would fix it??
[20:27] <sebsebseb> syockit: yeah, well  Konversation will have a nice KDE4 version soon I expect?
[20:27] <chotaz> !emerald
[20:27] <chotaz> !beryl
[20:27] <durt> zaccour, why do you think that?
[20:28] <chotaz> !compiz
[20:28] <zaccour> durt, i dunno, just runnin out of ideas
[20:28] <zaccour> durt, how do i look at that config file?
[20:28] <bigbucks> whats the password for the terminal as default?
[20:28] <syockit> sebsebseb: now that you mention it, they have a port on the svn. so yeah, I guess it's coming soon
[20:29] <thepython> zaccour: As a shot in the dark, try dhclient eth0 (or whatever your network interface is)
[20:29] <trinidadflores> what ever your password is
[20:29] <dustin> I have UCK, and I want to make a server install dvd with gnome and it doesnt seem to like that, is there a better way?
[20:29] <sebsebseb> syockit: ok cool.  and I don't like KDE4,  except some of the apps that I wil run in Gnome, but yeah this is ot
[20:29] <durt> zaccour, hit alt-F2 and use gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[20:29] <thepython> bigbucks: No root password by default
[20:29] <bigbucks> it wont let me type anything in for the password
[20:29] <hx> bigbucks, if you mean just to do su commando is NONE. you will have to do first sudo passwd
[20:29] <sebsebseb> !sudo
[20:29] <hx> then you will be able to do su stuff.
[20:29] <sebsebseb> !noroot
[20:29] <lstarnes> bigbucks: just type it.  Nothing will show up, but it will still get in there
[20:29] <thepython> !noroot > bigbucks
[20:31] <zaccour> durt, auto lo
[20:31] <zaccour> iface lo inet loopback
[20:31] <Jamie> I'm trying to set up a headless Ubuntu machine that I can connect to with VNC. However, if there's no monitor connected when it starts up, X starts in low graphics mode. Is there a way to disable X detecting the monitor?
[20:31] <bigbucks> if there is not root password, do I even have to do su?
[20:31] <durt> zaccour, that all?
[20:31] <lstarnes> bigbucks: sudo
[20:31] <zaccour> durt, yes
[20:31] <dratner> I am the only administrator(user1) on my home computer,  I want to have another user account have access to their folder under windows (dual boot system). The problem is that the folder always requires me to mount it with my admin password. How can I get it so I don't need to type my user password everytime user2 wants to look at their folder. I don't want to give them full mount privileges since they *could* delete something impor
[20:31] <iamking143> Hey guys..  i recently installed Ubuntu 8.10 and i tried to go on youtube... downloaded adobe flash and it still won`t work.. when i go to the site it starts loading then just freezes and the browser goes grey.. Is this a common problem?
[20:32] <durt> zaccour, take a look at the one on the computer and compare the two.
[20:32] <thepython> !flash | iamking143
[20:32] <zaccour> iamking143, i had problems with internet in 8.10, 9.04 beta is out, perhaps that might get it right
[20:32] <xiq> hello, i have a problem... i have no taskbar on xubuntu =(
[20:32] <dustin> iamking143: try seamonkey :)
[20:32] <zaccour> durt, i did
[20:32] <xiq> i mean it disappeared
[20:33] <sebsebseb> dratner: change the folder and group permissions for that user
[20:33] <mcstinky> iamking143: did you install the non-free flash plugin?
[20:33] <Iceman_B^Ltop> wth, again, I keep getting "connection timed out" when I try to SSH to my machine. it was working fine 2 minutes ago
[20:33] <zaccour> durt, do you think usuing a router might fix the problem?
[20:33] <shf10105> hi everybody, how would I setup xterm to put any selected text in the X11 clipboard to paste it somewhere else?
[20:33] <durt> zaccour, and?
[20:33] <zaccour> durt, you mean compare it to my ifconfig?
[20:33] <sebsebseb> dratner: is it mounted now?
[20:33] <mcstinky> Iceman_B^Ltop: check your router setup?
[20:33] <dratner> sebsebseb: no I haven't mounted it again.
[20:34] <sebsebseb> dratner: ok it needs to be mounted or you can't change it's permissions
[20:34] <durt> zaccour, no
[20:34] <iamking143> i got the flash directly from abobe. .deb for ubuntu
[20:34] <sebsebseb> dratner: hummmmmm  I am thinking of a normal Linux folder though, but I guess it's similar for one on the Windows partition
[20:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> mcstinky: nothing changed
[20:34] <durt> zaccour, compare the two /etc/network/interfaces, one from the computer one from the ps3
[20:34] <dratner> sebsebseb: ok lets say I mount it now. and change the permissions...wont it require me to mount it again just so this other user can even see it?
[20:34] <wasme> shf10105: it should do that automatically
[20:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I was SSHing to it within the local network
[20:34] <shf10105> it doesnt
[20:35] <shf10105> so im asking
[20:35] <thepython> Iceman_B^Ltop: Can you ping it?
[20:35] <wasme> shf10105: how are you trying to paste it?
[20:35] <Iceman_B^Ltop> lemme try
[20:35] <shf10105> middle mouse or c-v in firefox
[20:35] <sebsebseb> dratner: ,but I am thinking of the whole drive as well.  letting that user have permissions in  Linux,   ,but  read only permissions
[20:35] <Iceman_B^Ltop> nope
[20:35] <sebsebseb> dratner: you want read and write? or just read?
[20:35] <thepython> Iceman_B^Ltop: Then your problem might not be SSH.
[20:35] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay
[20:35] <Iceman_B^Ltop> yeah, looks like it
[20:35]  * Iceman_B^Ltop annoyed
[20:36] <noren> !me
[20:36] <dustin> iamking143: I have been having problems with firefox using flash lately and installed seamonkey (they are both mozilla) this fixed the problems with flash
[20:36] <chotaz> whats seamonkey?
[20:36] <sebsebseb> dustin: yes  Flash and Firefox  can go bad in Ubuntu
[20:36] <dratner> sebsebseb: for her personal windows "my documents" folder I want her to have full rights. Just not the whole drive.
[20:36] <chotaz> !seamonkey
[20:36] <sebsebseb> !seamonkey
[20:36] <iamking143> k.. il try seamonkey.. thanks
[20:36] <thepython> dustin: Just disable all other flash plugins except the official flash
[20:37] <sebsebseb> dratner: I got vista dual booting,   I'll find out if my idea works hold on
[20:37] <dratner> k thanks...this is xp but it should work similarly.
[20:37] <shf10105> wasme: i'm using xterm screen irssi, select some text but nothing is in clipboard
[20:37] <sebsebseb> iamking143: I would recommend Galeon and epiphany-browser
[20:37] <sebsebseb> iamking143: Seamonkey is alright
[20:37] <wasme> shf10105: hmmm, middle mouse button should work. (c-v won't ... uses a different clipboard.) Although you do have to make sure nothing else gets highlighted anywhere else between highlighting in xterm and pasting somewhere else. But if your doing all that I'm not sure why it's not working. Maybe someone else here has a better idea.
[20:37] <sebsebseb> iamking143: Firefox is fine for most Ubuntu useres, and if issues with FLash,  maybe try another player, such as Gnash or Swfdec
[20:37] <thepython> sebsebseb: Galeon development has stopped
[20:38] <FlyByNight> Hi!  If i want to start an application in the background when i log to my gnome account, how do I do?  Let's say Evolution
[20:38] <dustin> thepython realy? firefox isnt listing them eather but I will try it
[20:38] <wasme> shf10105: ahhh, if its something thats constantly updating like an irc client it may not work, because the text becomes unhighlighted with every refresh
[20:38] <sebsebseb> thepython: are you sure?
[20:38] <thepython> FlyByNight: System-preferences-sessions
[20:38] <thepython> sebsebseb: Last released was '06 last I checked
[20:38] <shf10105> wasme: how would I open a link in irssi with firefox... that is what I want to do exactly
[20:38] <Jamie> I'm trying to set up a headless Ubuntu machine that I can connect to with VNC. However, if there's no monitor connected when it starts up, X starts in low graphics mode. Is there a way to disable X detecting the monitor?
[20:38] <macman> guys how can i resize a external ntfs drive ?
[20:38] <bigbucks> how do I run XAMPP in ubuntu/
[20:39] <sebsebseb> thepython: ah well still a nice browser, and I think the  Galeon GUI will use the same  Gecko as Firefox,  and in that case :d
[20:39] <thepython> bigbucks: I recommend ubuntu server
[20:39] <macman> i know the ubuntu live cd is an option but is there anything else ?
[20:39] <wasme> shf10105: sorry, you'll have to ask someone else as I don't use irssi
[20:39] <twolane> shf10105: right click the url, hit 'o' for open link.
[20:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> thepython: when I log into my router(ddwrt) and ping my server from there, I do get a response
[20:39] <FlyByNight> thepython:  thanks!
[20:39] <chotaz> I got Emerald and a nice theme for it and applied, but after rebooting, I got ubuntu's default theme again =\
[20:39] <thepython> macman: LiveCD is the safest way to go about it
[20:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh
[20:39] <bigbucks> whats different about ubuntu server?
[20:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> its responding again
[20:39] <thrillERboy> hi when I doubleclick the title bar I my window scrolls up like rolling screen, i enabled something in compiz, cant remember what. what should i disable
[20:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> bigbucks: it comes without a GUI
[20:40] <thepython> Iceman_B^Ltop: Are your ssh ports open on all machines?
[20:40] <macman> OK
[20:40] <macman> BBS
[20:40] <thepython> bigbucks: Different kernel too
[20:40] <bigbucks> is it hard to install things on?
[20:40] <Flannel> bigbucks: It doesn't have a GUI by default.  Also, the -server kernel has some optimizations that make it more suitable.
[20:40] <bigbucks> becaue I need to put a webserver with Vhm on it
[20:40] <shf10105> twolane: doesnt work
[20:41] <Iceman_B^Ltop> thepython: should be
[20:41] <Flannel> bigbucks: Its the same package system as the rest of Ubuntu.  apt-get, aptitude, tasksel, etc.
[20:41] <FlyByNight> An if I want to run a shell script when I connect my blackberry to usb, is it possible?  I installed barry and all the tools to sync my blackberry, but there's no GUI yet and I don't want to run the terminal each time I connect my thing
[20:41] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I cna connect again though
[20:41] <Iceman_B^Ltop> dunno what was going on
[20:41] <bigbucks> ummm, is there an ISO I can download?
[20:41] <twolane> shf10105: are you in kde konsole by chance?
[20:41] <dustin> bigbucks I can email it to u
[20:41] <sebsebseb> dratner: ok still here?  just trying my idea
[20:41] <Flannel> bigbucks: Yep.  Same place you download the desktop version.  ARe you looking for 8.04 or 8.10?
[20:41] <shf10105> twolane: no, i do use xterm + screen
[20:42] <bigbucks> no, server
[20:42] <dratner> sebsebseb: yep...waiting
[20:42] <Flannel> bigbucks: Right, 8.04 or 8.10?
[20:42] <bigbucks> newest
[20:42] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how to access a Ubuntu ext3 partition on Vista? Tried ext2ifs but its doenst support the Intrepid inode size
[20:42] <Flannel> bigbucks: http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/
[20:42] <twolane> shf10105: it should work, the cursor must be over the link before it moves
[20:42] <dustin> bigbucks server is listed like desktop version (8.04,8.10,9.04)
[20:42] <thepython> bigbucks: 8.04 LTS is preferable for server
[20:43] <thepython> bigbucks: Else regular debian
[20:43] <dratner> sebsebseb: have another idea...couldn't I just mount the windows partition at startup and then give user2 rights to read/write thier partition?
[20:43] <mhall119> chazco: I don't think the windows ext2/3 drivers work very well
[20:43] <twolane> shf10105: the url will become underlined, then right click, hit o
[20:43] <durt> bigbucks, you might want to ask about vhm and such on #ubuntu-server
[20:43] <zaccour> durt, co you think you can help me tackle these problems one at a time?
[20:43] <Phantomas> I installed jaunty beta to a usb and when i boot from it, it takes me directly to text mode
[20:43] <chotaz> to use emerald I ned to do emerald --replace right?
[20:44] <zaccour> durt, its asking for my ip address, subnet mask, default router, primary and secondary dns
[20:44] <NotADJ> If the kernel gives errors during a badblocks test, are those blocks listed as bad?
[20:44] <durt> zaccour, surely
[20:44] <Flannel> Phantomas: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks
[20:44] <sebsebseb> dratner: they have a partition?
[20:44] <durt> zaccour, what is?
[20:44] <shf10105> twolane: thats the problem: urls dont become underlined - when right click and hit o, o appears in input line
[20:44] <Phantomas> Flannel: ok thanks
[20:44] <zaccour> durt, my ps3 manual intenet connect
[20:44] <twolane> shf10105: thats odd.
[20:44] <zaccour> durt, auto connect dont work
[20:44] <digisyn> hello everyone, got a problem with an ubuntu server, DNS queries from the server fail. I temp edited resolv.conf and DNS started working. How do I make permanant changes to resolv.conf? Thanks
[20:44] <chazco> Is it possible to change the inode size on an existing filesystem? (from 256 to 128)
[20:45] <durt> zaccour, but works on your compy?
[20:45] <dratner> sebsebseb: yes the folder is under a windows partion. I am trying to convert my whole family to ubuntu but if I can't establish secure access to thier old files...its kinda pointless
[20:45] <RobynM> Hi, I have an old laptop (650 mhz p3) I'm trying to resurrect - it has an extremely flaky cdrom that i'm booting an old knoppix disk with.  there's nothing of any use on the HD - is there a howto from here to a functional install?
[20:45] <sebsebseb> dratner: I thought maybe could tell it to  give  normal user  read and write access  to a folder on the mounted  Windows partition.  Nice idea, but  I try to change the permissions and it wants root.  altough that was the graphical way,  maybe it's possible with commands
[20:45] <Flannel> !install | RobynM
[20:45] <Flannel> RobynM: first link has a number of methods
[20:45] <zaccour> durt, yes works just fine
[20:45] <RobynM> Flannel - they all require things I don't have
[20:45] <o0Chris0o> how do I run a .run file in terminal?  I'm trying to update to the newest video drivers
[20:45] <zaccour> im gonna check somethin brb durt
[20:45] <sebsebseb> dratner: give them a data partition,  that is in a Linux file system
[20:45] <RobynM> usually a functional install
[20:45] <the_mole> o0Chris0o: don't do it unless you have a very good reason
[20:45] <RobynM> of something
[20:46] <marco__> quit
[20:46] <sebsebseb> dratner: or I guess an actsaul seperate home partition, would be for all users in your case
[20:46] <shf10105> twolane: with gnome-terminal that works
[20:46] <o0Chris0o> the_mole: I do..my games are really choppy
[20:46] <Flannel> RobynM: If you can install GRUB, then "FromLinux" will work just fine.
[20:46] <Iceman_B^Laptop> nice, crappy modem ¬_¬
[20:46] <dratner> sebsebseb: wont work. They still use windows for some applications (ie syncing iPhones) so they definately can't just use a ext3 partition
[20:47] <MenZa> Which video drivers are they, o0Chris0o
[20:47] <MenZa> o0Chris0o→ err, ?*
[20:47] <the_mole> o0Chris0o: check it's not an issue with wine first as once you upgrade your video card kernel module, any future kernel updates will break comptability with the module
[20:47] <twolane> shf10105: so use screen in gnome-terminal
[20:47] <RobynM> ok, how, then, do I install GRUB?
[20:47] <thepython> !grub
[20:47] <o0Chris0o> MenZa: I'm currently running 180.37 but want to upgrade to the nivida beta 185.13
[20:47] <thepython> !grub > RobynM
[20:48] <o0Chris0o> the_mole: I'm not playing the game through wine :)
[20:48] <RobynM> ty
[20:48] <the_mole> o0Chris0o: native linux games, I see
[20:48] <dratner> sebsebseb: if you know...remind me how to hard code mounting a windows partition during startup? I have done it before but I can't remember
[20:48] <shf10105> twolane: sorry, I have to use xterm because of other features
[20:48] <FlyByNight> dratner:  why not setup VirtualBox with a small windows install on it so they can sync their iPhones from linux?
[20:48] <Flannel> RobynM: Have you tried just booting to Ubuntu?  You can boot to Knoppix...
[20:48] <MenZa> o0Chris0o→ I see. Running non-repository drivers for video is generally a bad thing; they tend to break on updates etc. However, if you still wish to do so, do chmod +x <filename>.run and run it as root.
[20:48] <audifahrer> Hello
[20:48] <chotaz> Omg, it's rainning on my screen!
[20:48] <sebsebseb> dratner: how about running Windows inside Ubuntu in a virtual machine?
[20:48] <sebsebseb> dratner: as long as the computer has enough RAM, how much?
[20:49] <audifahrer> since I updated to 8.10 I get while mounting a crypted partition: "mount: special device /dev/dm-0 does not exist"
[20:49] <audifahrer> any ideas?
[20:49] <o0Chris0o> MenZa: if I could fix this problem I am having, I wouldn't try to do it :(
[20:49] <shf10105> twolane: but thanks anyway
[20:49] <sebsebseb> dratner: I think the Iphones could work like that as well
[20:49] <RobynM> Flannel - I don't have an ubuntu disk handy, but it wouldn't boot a tinyxp disk that installed a machine already this morning
[20:49] <dratner> flybynight: I thought Iphone and Ipod syncing was still broken under virtual machines
[20:49] <FlyByNight> dratner:  under wine yes, not under a virtual machine
[20:49] <sebsebseb> dratner: Ipod  syning works with programs such as Banshee.  that's the standard Ipod.  not the touch
[20:49] <frog_> find  -name FRC ... FRC is a dir. now i wsh to open it and do grep "something" *... how can i reach the goal?
[20:49] <MenZa> o0Chris0o→ You... could use envy. I dunno if it's still awfully terribly bad like it was once (please - can anyone comment on this?). Envy is used to download the latest drivers and install them.
[20:50] <mickey> how do i send a file with bluetooth to my phone?
[20:50] <dratner> sebseb/fly: I see...hmm, maybe I will try it.
[20:50] <MenZa> !bluetooth | mickey
[20:50] <o0Chris0o> MenZa: ahh I heard of that...
[20:50] <FlyByNight> dratner:  I may be wrong, but IIRC virtual boxes will work correctly
[20:50] <ikonia> !envy > o0Chris0o
[20:50] <dratner> IIRC?
[20:50] <MenZa> o0Chris0o→ I'd ask around in here first, though; I've never used it, but a year or so ago, it was classified as 'HIGHLY DANGEROUS'
[20:50] <MenZa> thanks, ikonia
[20:50] <FlyByNight> dratner:  If I Recall Correctly
[20:51] <thepython> !envy > thepython
[20:51] <dratner> doh? Thought you meant a brand name....haha
[20:51] <mickey> MenZa, i tried that but in the setup it cant find any devices
[20:51] <|PaperTiger|> Is there a way to get Banshee to recognize and use the Logitech G15 media controls?
[20:51] <marcosRz> how do I update clamav? I tried freshclam but It seens that the update is not packed yet, so will I need to install from src to allways get the latest?
[20:51] <zaccour> durt, im back
[20:51] <bartek> Has anyone else had a weird issue where certain sites like LinkedIn.com start timing out as soon as you try and submit anything on them? It only happens on my Ubuntu machine .. same connection and Windows machine it works fine :/
[20:52] <zaccour> durt, on the phone with sony. sony says call charter, charter says call sony, its just one big circle jerk
[20:52] <Ryder5> ok so ive tried using the <object> way for inserting a .swf video into my webpage but it doesnt work
[20:52] <ikonia> marcosRz: the clam software is not updated, just the definitions, marcosRz don't worry about the "old version" warning
[20:52] <ikonia> Ryder5: join #html or #web for web chat
[20:52] <Mood> Help! I've had no problems with my monitor/video for over a year, then today when i looked at my computer screen, I have these horrible horizontal streaks and shadows. It looks like a frequency issue, but I'm already operating at 75 Hz like I always did. I've confirmed my monitor is not the issue. I'm using a GeForce2 AGP card. Any ideas?
[20:52] <digisyn> hello everyone, got a problem with an ubuntu server, DNS queries from the server fail. I temp edited resolv.conf and DNS started working. How do I make permanant changes to resolv.conf? Thanks
[20:52] <dratner> thanks for the help guys
[20:52] <durt> zaccour, it's called support tennis :-)
[20:52] <Ryder5> Ah ok thanks
[20:52] <mickey> i did hcitool scan and it says no such device
[20:52] <marcosRz> ikonia, hmm but the definitions depends on the new pkg?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> dratner: hopefully  they won't need to dual boot anymore also :D
[20:52] <ikonia> marcosRz: no, you can grab the definitions with freshclam
[20:53] <marcosRz> I tried
[20:53] <marcosRz> how?
[20:53] <FlyByNight> dratner:  hehe, sorry for the "techno slang" ;)
[20:53] <dratner> sebseb: yeah...but really if It wasn't for the effen Apple Iphone, Ipods and I touches...I don't think my family would have a problem with Ubuntu
[20:53] <durt> zaccour, who's charter
[20:54] <ikonia> dratner: you don't need to use phrases like "effin" we know what it means, if you can't say it without swearing - don't say it please.
[20:54] <cherva> can someone give me an example of using the "X" command with the "-config" switch ?
[20:55] <FlyByNight> dratner:  IPod classic and all the small ones in this category work well under linux... there is only trouble with iPhones and iTouch  were you have to jailbreak your iphone/touch to get it to talk with the software, and it's still experimental
[20:56] <dratner> ikonia: sorry, It's just that Apples plan to rule the world still crawls all over. Open source all the way in my book.
[20:56] <Iceman_B^Laptop> how do I kick ghost connections on my server ?
[20:56] <ikonia> dratner: then don't buy products that are propriatary
[20:56] <kghunt> has anyone experienced problems with network manager in jaunty (not saving network key)
[20:56] <ikonia> kghunt: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty chat please.
[20:56] <kitche> kghunt: #ubuntu+1 for support with jaunty
[20:56] <kghunt> thanks
[20:56] <ubuntu_> hola a todos
[20:57] <Iceman_B^Laptop> has the naming scheme for Ubuntu been deciced? if so, where can I see a list?
[20:57] <dratner> Ikonia: well I don't generally but my wife sure does! She's like an apple fangirl
[20:57] <ubuntu_> alguna persona de mexico
[20:57] <Lumiere> Iceman_B^Laptop: check the wiki
[20:57] <Dreamglider> burlitsa, !grub
[20:57] <ikonia> dratner: so let her use a fully compatible OS like macos
[20:57] <Dreamglider> !grub > burlitsa
[20:57] <mickey> hcitool dev doesnt give me any usb devices
[20:58] <ubuntu_> muy bien
[20:58] <thepython> mickey: lsusb
[20:58] <mickey> thepython, it doesnt say anything about bluetooth
[20:58] <jpds> !es | ubuntu_
[20:58] <ryanCH> if i don't do "aptitude update" will it install kde 3.5, instead of kde 4+ ?
[20:59] <jpds> ryanCH: 3.5 was removed in intrepid I think, if that's what you mean.
[20:59] <ubuntu_> jajajaja
[20:59] <ryanCH> jpds, it was?
[20:59] <thepython> mickey: Your device isn't detected then?
[20:59] <jpds> ryanCH: Yes.
[20:59] <mickey> thepython, what do i have to do?
[21:00] <v1s1ons> is there a way to try ubuntu without partitioning the hdd? and how?
[21:00] <durt> ryan_, you have 3.5 installed from the ppas?
[21:00] <|PaperTiger|> Can someone recommend a good music player that supports Creative Zen
[21:00] <durt> sorry ryanCH
[21:00] <thepython> mickey: Dunno. :)
[21:01] <ryanCH> brb
[21:01] <thepython> mickey: (sorry)
[21:01] <FireEnigma-X> vlslons - I just did this today...
[21:02] <FireEnigma-X> I just placed the ubuntu CD into the drive and there was an option to install it along side windows
[21:02] <v1s1ons> @FireEnigma-X: i tried this on my own but couldnt do it
[21:02] <chotaz> !omg
[21:02] <meoblast001> why doesn't firefox always ask me if i want to save my tabs? sometimes it just asks me if i want to close them
[21:02] <v1s1ons> what did you do after installation was complete while still using windows
[21:02] <crlsrivera> how do i send an 11gb file to another machine via lan?  my external can't copy files over 4gb
[21:03] <mickey> does anyone know? i started bluetooth /etc/init.d/bluetooth start but it wont show up in lsusb
[21:03] <Whatta> meoblast001: if you have multiple windows open, it will only ask if you want to close the window, it will not give you the option to save your tabs
[21:03] <crlsrivera> chotaz: what kind of cable is that?
[21:04] <v1s1ons> FireEnigma-X: did you manage to try the grafic enviroment ?
[21:04] <chotaz> crlsrivera: normal lan cable
[21:04] <meoblast001> Whatta: ahh.. the Download window is interfering
[21:04] <meoblast001> thanks
[21:04] <FireEnigma-X> yea, it simply seemed to do some background install and then on re-boot It finished the proper install
[21:04] <chotaz> crlsrivera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable
[21:05] <FireEnigma-X> just used the standard desktop intall iso
[21:05] <cherva> can someone give me an example of using the "X" command with the "-config" switch ?
[21:05] <crlsrivera> chotaz: thanks
[21:05] <bts3685> hey, does dist-upgrade keep copies of config files it changes/overwrites anywhere?
[21:05] <v1s1ons> FireEnigma-X: i'll try harder then, thnx
[21:06] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[21:06] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[21:06] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[21:06] <FireEnigma-X> My problem now is trying to get rid of windows when they both on the same partition! - Anyone offer Help?
[21:07] <ohi> move windows to /dev/null ;D
[21:07] <FireEnigma-X> I have NO CD-ROM/DVD drive etc or floppy, as this is an OLD laptop im trying on first :) - so this makes it harder i guess
[21:07] <chotaz> just go and delete the windows folder and fringers-crossed itll work
[21:07] <zaccour> how do i turn off mac address filter?
[21:07] <zaccour> how do i turn off mac address filter?
[21:07] <chotaz> !repeat | zaccour
[21:08] <ellar> zaccour: on what?
[21:08] <FireEnigma-X> ok - I will try deleting Windows - worst case, I have to wait till I get back home to use the external CD drive to re-install :)
[21:08] <chotaz> I was joking.
[21:08] <FireEnigma-X> ok!!
[21:08] <FireEnigma-X> I am gullable at the moment -- beginner !!!
[21:08] <Scrow> What is the best program for converting .avi files (and others) to be burned and played on a standalone DVD player?
[21:08] <Rome390s> is anyone in here successfully running ubuntu on an external, where you can easily switch (by plugging or unplugging the drive) between windows and ubuntu?
[21:08] <Cheeseum> bah I hate using a trackpad D:
[21:08] <zaccour> how do i turn off mac address filter?
[21:08] <erUSUL> Scrow: ffmpeg
[21:09] <chotaz> zaccour: on what?
[21:09] <zaccour> chotaz, on my internet
[21:09] <FireEnigma-X> ohi - will your method work - or you joking also :D
[21:09] <bts3685> Rome390s: a guy in my loco is, let me get you his nick, one sec
[21:09] <Scrow> erUSUL: ffmpeg? It converts avi so that my standalone will read it? Does it have options for menus and whatnot as well?
[21:09] <erUSUL> zaccour: that's make no sense. your router? read your router documentation
[21:09] <durt> zaccour, call your ISP
[21:09] <Rome390s> thanks bts
[21:10] <erUSUL> Scrow: for that maybe devede or qdvdauthor are better tools
[21:10] <deany> Rome390s, well not the same tihng but i have it as "live" on a usb stick
[21:10] <Dreamglider> can i upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 from the 8.04CD ?
[21:10] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: only if it is the alternate CD
[21:10] <sebsebseb> !upgrade
[21:10] <Scrow> erUSUL: ffmpeg? It converts avi so that my standalone will read it? Does it have options for menus and whatnot as well?
[21:11] <deany> Dreamglider, might as well use the repo, you will need to update anyway once you upgraded
[21:11] <Scrow> Sorry
[21:11] <chotaz> dreamglider: in terminal: sudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-desktop
[21:11] <erUSUL> Scrow: already answered no need to repeat
[21:11] <Rome390s> deany, how did you manage that?  My BIOS is set correctly, grub is installed to my external(not mbr) and everytime I restart it boots straight to Windows
[21:11] <deany> Rome390s, my guess is, grub is on external.
[21:11] <CheesyWeasel> Somebody want to help me get Java working on 8.04?
[21:11] <Scrow> Sorry missed the answer! Which is going to be faster/easier to use? I want a program I can just click a couple buttons and let it work. Like DVD Flick on Windows
[21:12] <erUSUL> !java | CheesyWeasel
[21:12] <Rome390s> Everything I've read has said make sure it installs to the external and not the internal.  When it was installed to the internal I wasn't able to start with or without the drive plugged in, always got the grub Error 21
[21:12] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: I've tried everything it says there...
[21:12] <erUSUL> Scrow: never used them just install them and try or take a peak at its web homepages
[21:12] <erUSUL> CheesyWeasel: and what is the problem you have?
[21:13] <Scrow> Ok thanks!'
[21:13] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: I can run Java applets from my HDD, but not from the web.
[21:13] <erUSUL> CheesyWeasel: installled the sun-java6-plugin ?
[21:13] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: Yup.
[21:13] <gabri-shatana> hi
[21:14] <erUSUL> CheesyWeasel: and it is the plugin listed in "about:plugins" (type that on the address bar)
[21:14] <mickey> does anyone know? i started bluetooth /etc/init.d/bluetooth start but it wont show up in lsusb
[21:14] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: Nope.
[21:14] <erUSUL> !hi | gabri-shatana
[21:14] <gabri-shatana> i've a .mkv 720p video and i want convert it in avi
[21:14] <erUSUL> gabri-shatana: ffmpeg -i file.mkv file.avi
[21:15] <FireEnigma-X> Is the best way to get rid of windows when it's currently on the same partition as ubuntu - to re-size the partition and then re-install ubutu to the new partition and then delete the first partition with windows on it?
[21:15] <UUB1> I got this error after adding the opera pgp key - W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 71346C8340130828
[21:15] <Alek_> I would suggest winFF for converting video files
[21:15] <osfameron> evening
[21:15] <osfameron> I'm trying to browse a device via bluetooth
[21:15] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: I have no idea what to do.
[21:15] <osfameron> I've paired, but when I click on "browse device", I get obex://[00:22:fd:3e:d6:67] not a valid device
[21:16] <gabri-shatana> erUSUL,
[21:16] <gabri-shatana> Unsupported codec for output stream #0.0
[21:16] <erUSUL> CheesyWeasel: are you sure you installed the package i said? what does "apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin" says ?
[21:16] <mib_t1qutf> hi there ..
[21:16] <erUSUL> gabri-shatana: :|
[21:16] <anthonys> !hi | mib_t1qutf
[21:16] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: I'm positive.
[21:17] <UUB1> how do I fix that error?
[21:17] <erUSUL> gabri-shatana: always thought ffmpeg was infalible XD
[21:17] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: It says it's installed.
[21:17] <erUSUL> CheesyWeasel: sudo aptitude purge sun-java6-plugin && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin
[21:18] <osfameron> aha, I need to install obexfs possibly
[21:18] <erUSUL> !gpgerr | UUB1
[21:18] <gabri-shatana> erUSUL, so?
[21:18] <mib_t1qutf> hi there .. i have un solvable problem with grub and super grub..
[21:18] <erUSUL> gabri-shatana: have no other ideas sorry
[21:18] <anthonys> mib_t1qutf: what's the problem?
[21:18] <gabri-shatana> ok
[21:18] <erUSUL> gabri-shatana: maybe mencoder ? avidemux ?
[21:19] <melik> how can i search for a file name from terminal
[21:19] <gabri-shatana> when i load the file in avidemux i have an error
[21:19] <Voltaire> melik locate or find
[21:19] <Voltaire> !find
[21:19] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: It's running now.
[21:19] <Voltaire> !locate
[21:19] <erUSUL> melik: there two main options find and locate
[21:20] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: Well, the command you told me to, that is.
[21:20] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: Not Java.
[21:20] <tower_> !vmware
[21:20] <erUSUL> CheesyWeasel: are you using stock firefox ? the one that comes with ubuntu?
[21:20] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: I upgraded.
[21:20] <Voltaire> !iceweasel
[21:20] <erUSUL> CheesyWeasel: how ?
[21:21] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: I don't remember it was a long time ago.
[21:21] <mib_t1qutf> from yaster day i cant open my ubuntu every time i try to open it,, it give me a grub screen i used a suber grub cd to bring back the bootloader   whin i try it it gives me this massseg:error 15 file not found
[21:21] <chazco> Hi... i've just used "sudo mkfs.ext3" to format a partition... i can mount it fine, but cannot create folders/files in it... any ideas? Think its something to do with sudo being used to create it...
[21:21] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Manual download?
[21:21] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: Yeah, I think so.
[21:21] <Voltaire> mib_t1qutf: Can't find your grub files
[21:21] <erUSUL> CheesyWeasel: but you did it manually; not with the update manager...
[21:21] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: That didn't do it.
[21:21] <CheesyWeasel> erUSUL: Yes... :/
[21:22] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: You'd do best to remove all traces of it & then apt-get remove firefox && apt-get install firefox
[21:22] <deany> chazco, u need to chown it
[21:22] <gabri-shatana> erUSUL,  i try fuoco tools
[21:22] <gabri-shatana> erUSUL,  seems work
[21:22] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: Won't I lose my bookmarks, toolbars, addons, etc?
[21:22] <erUSUL> gabri-shatana: ok; good to know
[21:22] <mib_t1qutf> so .. i log on in live ubuntu and go to the trimnal to get grub , then every time i try to  tybe any command it gives me unrecognazed command
[21:22] <chazco> deany - Any details on what i'd chown? The mount point?
[21:22] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Keep your files in the home directory but remove the stuff in /usr
[21:22] <Flannel> CheesyWeasel: The package manager won't touch anything in your homedir.
[21:23] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: What exactly should I delete?
[21:23] <gabri-shatana> erUSUL,  mencoder INPUT -ofps 25 -ovc xvid -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=256 -srate 48000  -vf scale -zoom -xy 720 -xvidencopts bitrate=4000  -o OUTPUT
[21:23] <matt_keys> Is it possible to assign a nic to a kvm virtual guest? I see DHCP and bridging in the wiki but no physical assignments
[21:23] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Did you move the files from the manual install into /usr?
[21:23] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: I don't remember.
[21:23] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: This was ages ago.
[21:23] <noisy1> hello! I am trying to install open openldap on ubuntu 8.04 jeos and MAKE fails when it "/bin/sh: soelim: not found". How can I install soelim?
[21:23] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Where does your shortcut point you to?
[21:24] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: My firefox shortcut?
[21:24] <mib_t1qutf> so what i can do ?
[21:24] <matt_keys> noisy1 : sudo apt-cache search soelim
[21:24] <Voltaire> Yeah, you don't open firefox from a terminal, do you?
[21:24] <noisy1> matt_keys: it returns nothing
[21:24] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: : Yeah, you don't open firefox from a terminal, do you?
[21:25] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: No. It points to firefox %u
[21:25] <mharris> noisy1: install groff
[21:25] <Voltaire> :|
[21:25] <mib_t1qutf> what did ya mean by it rerurn nothing?
[21:25] <deany> chazco, yes.. like  sudo chown -R you:you /media/mountpoint
[21:25] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: What does apt-get say when you try to remove it
[21:25] <noisy1> mharris: thanks!
[21:25] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: sudo apt-get remove firefox?
[21:25] <chazco> deany - How come i havent had to do that on other external drives formatted as ext3?
[21:25] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Try it!
[21:26] <chazco> deany - Also, when i unmount the mount point will disappear, will the permissions be remembered?
[21:26] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: It just removed it...
[21:26] <chazco> Thanks by the way :)
[21:26] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: It didn't say anything.
[21:26] <Voltaire> purge it & install again?
[21:26] <adnc> hello, my touchpad is active when i type on my notebook. i found out that syndaemon disables this. how can i have it run when i start gnome? or is there a different way disabling the touchpad during typeing?
[21:26] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: But I can still run Firefox...
[21:27] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: The shortcut still works.
[21:27] <anthonys> CheesyWeasel: where does the shortcut point to?
[21:27] <deany> chazco, no idea why it works without chown, its ext3 and using priv`s so root is the default owner
[21:27] <mib_t1qutf> did there any one can help ? ?
[21:27] <CheesyWeasel> anthonys: firefox %u
[21:27] <deany> chazco, yes it will remember...
[21:27] <matt_keys> Server has 4 nics, I'm wanting to assign eth1-3 to KVM virtual guests. Is that possible?
[21:27] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Check in your /usr directory
[21:27] <oddicious> hey guys im getting a DRDY error .. i googled this and it appears to be hard drive Related .. is this ubuntus way of saying i need a new HD?
[21:27] <Tophu> to install the nvidia drivers from the website is it still ..... ctrl+alt+f1      sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop       cd ~/Desktop     sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86 blah blah
[21:27] <anthonys> CheesyWeasel: type "which firefox" in a terminal (no quotes)
[21:28] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: What about my /usr?
[21:28] <dori> Some new update (last week or so) has messed up my screen resolutions. I use two monitors and now they're both messed up. The settings through that Monitor Resolution Settings applet are not saved from one session to another. I'm using  Ubuntu 8.10. Anyone know if something happened? How do I fix it?
[21:28] <CheesyWeasel> anthonys: /usr/bin/firefox
[21:28] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Try which firefox
[21:28] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: Got it...
[21:28] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: K. I found the folder.
[21:28] <chazco> deany - Ok... tried changing the permissions, still cant write to it... (can if I use gksudo nautlius though...)
[21:28] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: You did a nice job of integrating it. :P
[21:28] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: Thanks. :P
[21:29] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: It's buried somewhere in /usr/share/
[21:29] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: the /usr/bin thing is a symlink
[21:29] <matt_keys> Server has 4 nics, I'm wanting to assign eth1-3 to KVM virtual guests. Is that possible?
[21:29] <deany> chazco, if you are the owner you should be able to.. also try sudo chmod -R 755 /media/mountpoint
[21:29] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: The link target is /opt/firefox/firefox
[21:29] <chotaz> How is Office 2007 working on Wine?
[21:29] <ikonia> matt_keys: physical devices are posible, but it's more common to use bridge devices or tun devices
[21:30] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Hmm. Try /opt/firefox !
[21:30] <ikonia> chotaz: ask the wine guys in #wine-hq
[21:30] <Tophu> to install the nvidia drivers from the website is it still ..... ctrl+alt+f1      sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop       cd ~/Desktop     sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86 blah blah?
[21:30] <chotaz> thanks ikonia
[21:30] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: K. I'm there.
[21:30] <matt_keys> ikonia: that's all i could find doc on (bridge)... could you give me some pointers on where to look?
[21:30] <Voltaire> That's where you installed, right?
[21:30] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: Yeah, it looks like it.
[21:30] <chazco> deany - No difference...
[21:30] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Well, remove that & the link in /usr/bin then install again
[21:31] <ikonia> matt_keys: replace the bridge devices with physical devices, although I don't recoemmend it unless you are %100 confident with what you're doing
[21:31] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: K.
[21:31] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: The whole /opt/firefox folder?
[21:31] <deany> chazco, remount it
[21:31] <chotaz> !Wine
[21:31] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: If you're apprehensive, just remove the link first & then install
[21:31] <deany> chazco, i have an external, all i did was format to ext3, chown it and chmod it, and it is fine
[21:31] <chazco> deany - Been remouting it, no luck
[21:32] <deany> chazco, if you give it a label it will mount at that point too.. which is handy
[21:32] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: It won't let me delete it...
[21:32] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: How? You have root permissions, right?
[21:32] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: I'll do it through terminal.
[21:32] <deany> chazco, i suggest reformat it then,   include -m 0 tho..
[21:32] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Sorry, thought you were using the terminal. ;)
[21:33] <deany> chazco, i dont know why you cant write to it when you are the owner...
[21:33] <oddicious> hey guys im getting a DRDY error .. i googled this and it appears to be hard drive Related .. is this ubuntus way of saying i need a new HD?
[21:33] <deany> chazco, im assuming you replaced "you:you" with your username :)
[21:33] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: What's the command that removes a directory and all the files?
[21:33] <anthonys> CheesyWeasel: rm -r
[21:33] <dangerduck> hey
[21:33] <anthonys> !hi | dangerduck
[21:34] <chazco> deany - Me neither... its a truecrypt encrypted drive... when formatted with the truecrypt utility i can access it - but cant use it in Windows due to inode size... so i formatted it manually, which seemed to work fine apart from this...
[21:34] <meoblast001> hi... i'm trying to send audio output into audio input...... can somone help?
[21:34] <meoblast001> i'm trying to loop it so that i can use it on BlogTV
[21:34] <Voltaire> cat /path/to/input > /path/to/output
[21:34] <Voltaire> ?
[21:34] <Voltaire> Oh.
[21:34] <Voltaire> Nevermind!
[21:34] <dangerduck> what 8s the program for desktop like cube on ubuntu ???
[21:34] <Voltaire> dangerduck: Compiz-fusion
[21:34] <Voltaire> !compiz
[21:34] <matt_keys> ikonia: using virt-manager, do you select the "shared physical device" option, or set a fixed mac, or?
[21:34] <dangerduck> voltaire  thx ^
[21:35] <starfruit> how to read vsd files? visio
[21:35] <deany> chazco, ive never used truecrypt myself..
[21:35] <karstensrage> hi all I was trying to compile and get working the OpenAIM stuff, it says its for redhat but I thought that ubuntu would be close enough... I Had to apt-get gcc, g++ and gmake so that may be part of my problem, but should I expect to be able to get a redhat only SDK working on Ubuntu?
[21:35] <Voltaire> deany: dm-crypt for full encryption, ecryptfs for individ directories
[21:35] <gx> buenasss
[21:35] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: Ok, everything is removed. I did sudo apt-get install firefox and it did it, but now I can't find firefox to run it.
[21:36] <anthonys> karstensrage: different package managers, different base binarys; so probably not
[21:36] <chazco> deany - It shouldnt affect it, everything shows up as normal block devices (transparant encryption)
[21:36] <mharris> karstensrage: I can't see how something could be Red Hat only, as RHEL, Fedora, etc. are comprised of all OSS.
[21:36] <deany> Voltaire, im not asking :)  im responding to chazco
[21:36] <Barridus> heh i noticed by default that root doesn't have a password.  should i remedy this in the sake of security?  root logins are disabled, if that means anything
[21:36] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: It didn't create an entry in /usr/bin?
[21:36] <karstensrage> anthonys, does that mean if i got it working on redhat/fedora and copied over the built stuff it still wouldnt work on Ubuntu?
[21:36] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: It did.
[21:36] <dangerduck> cy'a bye
[21:37] <Flannel> Barridus: The root account is locked.  It's not that it doesn't have a password.
[21:37] <karstensrage> mharris, I dont see how it could be either but I couldnt buld it
[21:37] <Voltaire> try running /usr/bin/firefox from a terminal
[21:37] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: Hold on a sec...
[21:37] <Flannel> Barridus: There's no security issues associated with it being locked, it's the preferred configuration in Ubuntu.
[21:37] <Barridus> Flannel, ok thanks i was worried i had a security issue
[21:37] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: Ok, firefox is working.
[21:37] <deany> chazco,  remake the partitions. format em and unmount, then remount and try chown/chmod
[21:37] <matt_keys> barridus: that's why you've gota sudo to do just about anything
[21:37] <Voltaire> Barridus: You can unlock it if you want, but it's not recommended.
[21:38] <Voltaire> !noroot | Barridus
[21:38] <yvan300> hey guys, what are the consequences of deleting my enemy territory game?
[21:38] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: And so is Java. Thank you! :D
[21:38] <mharris> karstensrage: probably just need to twiddle some things to get it to work
[21:38] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Sweet.
[21:38] <deany> chazco, also give it a label and set no reserved blocks (-m 0)
[21:38] <masho> hey guys can i get a lil help
[21:38] <anthonys> !ask | masho
[21:38] <deany> chazco, when i say unmount, i mean also unplug it
[21:38] <chotaz> Off-topic: How do I register my nick with Freenode?
[21:38] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: Now how do I make the link in "Applications" start it?
[21:39] <Flannel> !register | chotaz
[21:39] <Barridus> Voltaire, no i wasn't planning on messing with any of that if things were still secure (hence why i came and asked first)
[21:39] <Voltaire> chotaz: /help
[21:39] <Ganondorf07> back
[21:39] <chotaz> Flannel, Valtaire, thanks.
[21:39] <Voltaire> CheesyWeasel: Oh, just set it to /usr/bin/firefox instead of firefox. You can leave the profile stuff.
[21:39] <yvan300> hey guys, as i was saying before what are the consequences of deleting my enemy territory installation
[21:39] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: How do I change that?
[21:39] <Ganondorf07> I'm sorry, but who was I talking to?
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[21:39] <FloodBot2> Lando-SpacePimp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <anthonys> yvan300: is it just a game?
[21:40] <Ganondorf07> I'm the one with the nVidia problem
[21:40] <deany> yvan300, you wont be able to play it
[21:40] <Voltaire> !spam
[21:40] <anthonys> Ganondorf07: lots of people have problems here. What's yours?
[21:40] <meoblast001> hi... i'm trying to send audio output into audio input...... can somone help?
[21:40] <Ganondorf07> @anthonys hi I have installed ubuntu 8.1 and I have a problem with my graphic card
[21:40] <anthonys> Ganondorf07: what's the problem?
[21:41] <gearsecond> i want to get working my compiz what should i do?
[21:41] <yvan300> deany i know i wont be able to play it but will is muck up my pc
[21:41] <anthonys> gearsecond: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[21:41] <Ropechoborra> when i restart my pc, /etc/acpi/events delets all its content?
[21:41] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: You rock! :D
[21:41] <CheesyWeasel> Voltaire: Thanks so much.
[21:41] <Ganondorf07> well, this os lets my set my resolution up to 800x600 while with ubuntu 7.1 i could set it to 1200x800
[21:41] <deany> yvan300, no..
[21:42] <anthonys> Ganondorf07: have you enabled all the needed drivers etc?
[21:42] <Ganondorf07> yes
[21:42] <oddicious> hey
[21:42] <Ganondorf07> i downlaoded drivers, edited xorg.conf but nothing
[21:42] <oddicious> guys
[21:42] <gearsecond> ive got a 64 mb grafic card
[21:42] <anthonys> Ganondorf07: can your monitor support 1200x800?
[21:42] <masho> well i got ubuntu 8.10 and downloaded wine and yahoo messager but everytime i log in the window close
[21:42] <Ganondorf07> mhm
[21:42] <sebsebseb> Ganondorf07: Ubuntu 8.10 has a rather differnet xorg to  8.04 and so 7.10 as well
[21:42] <anthonys> gearsecond: what kind of card? (Nvidia, ATI, Intel)
[21:43] <gearsecond> Intel
[21:43] <isseu> hello
[21:43] <matt_keys> ikonia: i found an article that suggests virt-manager 0.7.0 has the option for physical interfaces. too bad the package manager only gives 0.5.4 lol
[21:43] <anthonys> gearsecond: have you enabled the restricted driver for it?
[21:43] <anthonys> !hi | isseu
[21:43] <Ganondorf07> so.. how could I fix it?
[21:43] <gearsecond> how shiuld i do ti?
[21:43] <Zedde> Hmm I just activated the nvidia drivera that I found under system -> admin -> hardware and now my fan spinng all the time
[21:43] <gearsecond> anthonys: how should i do ti?
[21:44] <gearsecond> it
[21:44] <oddicious> hey guys im getting a DRDY error .. i googled this and it appears to be hard drive Related problem .. is this ubuntus way of saying i need a new HD? or what ? ..
[21:44] <isseu> how can i see specifications of the pc in ubuntu, a software like everest in windows???
[21:44] <anthonys> gearsecond: go to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers
[21:44] <Voltaire> isseu: the /proc directory provides all sorts of fun
[21:44] <isseu> thx
[21:44] <Voltaire> isseu: Just try catting all the various files there
[21:44] <peepsalot> what do I have to do to change my screen resolution?  I tried System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution, but it doesn't list all the modes for my monitor
[21:44] <ChotaZ> How do I see the list of people in a channel in GNOME xchat?
[21:44] <isseu> some one special?
[21:44] <masho> anyone going to help me
[21:45] <Flannel> isseu: Also, try lspci and lsusb
[21:45] <anthonys> masho: what's your problem?
[21:45] <anthonys> !ask | masho
[21:45] <Voltaire> peepsalot: edit xorg.conf?
[21:45] <isseu> ok
[21:45] <peepsalot> why can't they just make it detect supported screen resolutions, like windows has done for a decade or so?
[21:45] <oldtxskool> could someone just check to see if they can access my ftp? i can pm you the details
[21:45] <masho> i download wine for ubuntu 8.04 and i got yahoo messager 9.0 but everytime i log in it close the window
[21:46] <yvan300> deany thanks
[21:46] <ChotaZ> How do I see the list of people in a channel in GNOME xchat?
[21:46] <ellar> masho why don't you use pidgin?
[21:46] <masho> i dont like it ellar i need to use wabcam to chat with family
[21:46] <gearsecond> anthonys: im not using a ubuntu im using a xubuntu 8.10
[21:47] <Guest34734> ok
[21:47] <Guest34734> oye
[21:47] <gearsecond> what should i do?
[21:47] <Guest34734> hu da hell r u
[21:47] <anthonys> gearsecond: I never really liked XFCE, so I don't know my way around; does it have a meny system?
[21:47] <anthonys> *menu
[21:47] <gearsecond> whats that?
[21:47] <peepsalot> I thought I remember some hype from a while back that the version of xorg in intrepid was supposed to magically do away with xorg.conf or something
[21:47] <Flannel> Guest34734: This is #ubuntu, the Ubuntu support channel.  Is there something we can help you with today?
[21:48] <ChotaZ> gearsecond a drop menu called System xD
[21:48] <peepsalot> what happened with that idea
[21:48] <anthonys> gearsecond: a way to access menus
[21:48] <Voltaire> peepsalot: Indeed. xorg.conf is being used again in 9.04 I think.
[21:48] <dreamy> how many files linux needs to boot ?  and wich ones ?
[21:48] <gearsecond> xD yes
[21:48] <Flannel> peepsalot: It was implemented.  Your Xorg is mostly blank, with a lot of auto configuration going on.
[21:48] <anthonys> dreamy: lots, and too many to know
[21:48] <Ropechoborra> when i restart my pc, /etc/acpi/events delets all its content?
[21:48] <gearsecond> Xfce menu
[21:48] <deany> peepsalot, there is a file there called xorg.conf, its empty.
[21:48] <anthonys> dreamy: probably all in /boot though
[21:48] <gearsecond> it has got Xfce menu
[21:48] <masho> what more do i need for wine so my window apps run well?
[21:48] <durt> Voltaire, 9.04 is no different from 8.04 and 8.10.
[21:49] <gearsecond> what to do there?
[21:49] <deany> peepsalot, hence its automagic
[21:49] <anthonys> gearsecond: is the an entry there for System or something like that?
[21:49] <dreamy> anthonys: i just neeed a pxe boot .. i need to know what files to put on the tftp server
[21:49] <Voltaire> durt: by default, 8.10 does not utilize xorg.conf
[21:49] <intelGMA500> hi! I'm trying to install a intel gma 500 over ubuntu 9.04 beta but didn't work. any solution?
[21:49] <dreamy> i want to boot from lan
[21:49] <peepsalot> deany, so how do I set my resolution?
[21:49] <Voltaire> durt: 8.04, on the other hand, does
[21:49] <gearsecond> yes
[21:49] <oldtxskool> can someone check my ftp for me please will pm you the details, trying to set one up and need to know if it is running.  done what i can with ftp test sites etc
[21:49] <Guest34734> fuckers
[21:49] <gearsecond> system
[21:49] <mkarnicki> 9.04 is different for me :) it has some new nice visual features
[21:49] <ortsvorsteher> intelGMA500: try in #ubuntu#1
[21:49] <deany> peepsalot, its there if you need to use ATI`s drivers and the like, to add custom stuff
[21:49] <anthonys> dreamy: I'm pretty sure that it's all in /boot
[21:49] <Flannel> intelGMA500: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[21:49] <durt> Voltaire, niether does 9.04 it's for optional configurations
[21:49] <j-b-r> can anyone tell me why some applications recognize my GPM-driven mouse at the command line while others don't?
[21:49] <anthonys> dreamy: do you need a GUI?
[21:50] <gearsecond> but theres no entry of Administration
[21:50] <intelGMA500> ortsvorsteher: ;?
[21:50] <dreamy> anthonys: can i put the whole direcotry on the tftp conf file ?
[21:50] <masho> hmm
[21:50] <ellar> intelGMA500: join #ubuntu+1
[21:50] <Zedde> I have a  Quadro NVS 135M (GPU 0) and when I activate the drivers the fan on the cards to spin at high speed
[21:50] <ortsvorsteher> intelGMA500: in channel #ubuntu+1 you will find what you need ;)
[21:50] <deany> peepsalot, with the Screen Resolution app in menu
[21:50] <ahmed> hi fuckes
[21:50] <anthonys> anthonys: no idea. worth a shot htough
[21:50] <masho> any other way to instell yahoo messager onto ubuntu 8.04
[21:50] <ahmed> fuck off
[21:50] <durt> Voltaire, 8.04 is 'bullet proof' xorg too.
[21:50] <peepsalot> deany, it doesn't list the right resolutions!
[21:50] <anthonys> masho: pidgin
[21:51] <masho> pidgin suck man
[21:51] <mkarnicki> pidgin rulez :)
[21:51] <dreamy> anthonys: Did u ever do boot from lan ?
[21:51] <anthonys> masho: why?
[21:51] <Voltaire> durt: Really? Sorry if I was incorrect.
[21:51] <mkarnicki> it's simple and ti works ;)
[21:51] <pepeubu> hi there
[21:51] <anthonys> anthonys: no
[21:51] <oldtxskool> masho, could always try virtualbox
[21:51] <gearsecond> how can i get back the startup bar in the upper part o xubuntu?
[21:51] <gearsecond> i lost that xD
[21:51] <j-b-r> Does anyone know how to make GPM work right?
[21:51] <masho> i need all the user face of yahoo messager 9,0
[21:51] <deany> makes you wonder why they bundle pidgin with ubuntu when its 2nd rate, and has no webcam support..
[21:51] <anthonys> dreamy: no
[21:51] <dreamy> k
[21:51] <pepeubu> is there a way to run 169 glx driver on ubuntu 8.10
[21:52] <Voltaire> durt: Definitely going to have to go back to using an xorg.conf though. ctrl+alt+back is disabled by default in 9.04 according to release notes
[21:52] <masho> what virtualbox ?
[21:52] <deany> and they dont exactly maintain it either..
[21:52] <anthonys> deany: because it supports every protocol under the sun
[21:52] <gartral> i get system noise through my sound card, its possibly a voltage leak, but i dont think i can fix it, is there any way i can filter it out?
[21:52] <Voltaire> !virtualbox | masho
[21:52] <deany> anthonys, apart from webcams
[21:52] <graingert> masho-> virtulisation for pc arch
[21:52] <oldtxskool> yer virtualbox will allow you to install windoze under ubuntu as a virtual machine
[21:52] <mkarnicki> i hear this system noise sometimes also.
[21:52] <anthonys> deany: not a protocol, and there is probably a plugin for it
[21:52] <deany> anthonys, and only if you keep it upto date, by compiling or using getdeb.net
[21:52] <graingert> deany-> webcams are not a protocol
[21:53] <masho> ok
[21:53] <Ganondorf07> anyone knows how to seamless put windows xp to work with virtualbox in ubuntu?
[21:53] <mkarnicki> @graingert i agree
[21:53] <anthonys> deany: or using a different Distro. Arch FTW!
[21:53] <deany> that whole thing with msn a month or 2 ago..
[21:53] <graingert> Ganondorf07-> it does not work well
[21:53] <durt> Voltaire, xorg can be used in all the recent release but is not necessary, install a little script called dontzap to get ctrl-alt-bksp back.
[21:53] <Voltaire> Ganondorf07: Install the virtualbox extra tools thing
[21:53] <Flannel> deany: This is a support channel.  If you want to discuss Ubuntu, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[21:53] <j-b-r> So no one has any ideas about GPM stuff...
[21:53] <graingert> Ganondorf07-> fun for a while, but then get's irratating and crashy
[21:53] <gartral> deany: pm me with that, i dont know what happened
[21:53] <deany> anthonys, ubuntu dont keep it upto date...  if you want the latest version that is
[21:53] <graingert> Ganondorf07-> please keep in chatroom
[21:54] <oldtxskool> can anyone test my ftp. trying to get it up and running :s
[21:54] <Zedde> Ganondorf07: use VMware server 2 and VM tools  it's works great
[21:54] <anthonys> deany: what version are you using?
[21:54] <ortsvorsteher> oldtxskool: how to reach your ftp?
[21:54] <QPrime> Voltaire: or use <Alt><SysRq><k> (on a qwerty keyboard)
[21:54] <graingert> Zedde-> vmware is so bad, not opensource etc
[21:54] <chazco> deany - chmod'ing to 777 seems to work...
[21:54] <gearsecond> i dont have sound in xubuntu
[21:54] <gearsecond> what should i do?
[21:54] <peepsalot> i tried to run the restricted drivers app, and it is getting stuck at "Searching for available drivers"
[21:54] <ortsvorsteher> !sound | gearsecond
[21:54] <Zedde> graingert: true
[21:54] <Voltaire> QPrime: Interesting. Thanks.
[21:54] <anthonys> gearsecond: any particular reason you are using Xubuntu and not Ubuntu?
[21:55] <Zedde> but it works :)
[21:55] <kneeki> I have a file copy operation that appears to be 'stuck', is there some way to kill it? just closing the window does nothing, as the 'file operations' icon is still in the system tray.
[21:55] <graingert> anthonys-> runs faster, looks cool etc
[21:55] <deany> one newer than in repo
[21:55] <Voltaire> gearsecond: Hardware requires it, prefers it.
[21:55] <peepsalot> can I set my nvidia driver from the command line, since this gui app seems to be not working?
[21:55] <gearsecond> yes because hardware requires xubuntu
[21:55] <Voltaire> kneeki: ps aux & then kill the process
[21:55] <graingert> kneeki-> there is a big red (x) circle
[21:55] <gearsecond> ive got only 224 mb ram
[21:55] <QPrime> Voltaire: no problem
[21:55] <anthonys> graingert: looks the same as Ubuntu, and you can get XFCE in ubuntu as well s make it easier to administer
[21:56] <graingert> ...
[21:56] <Iceman_B^Laptop> whats the tool to parse my Samba config?
[21:56] <chazco> deany - Having root own the mountpoint but with 777 works, but not if i change ownership to my user... odd
[21:56] <kneeki> graingert: I clicked that circle, and it's now greyed out, but the window remains, along with the progress bar and whatnot within it
[21:56] <Zedde> anyone running a nvidia card and drivers ver 177hahaveing problems with the fan going on high speed ??
[21:56] <gearsecond> although i ve a 2.6 Ghz Intel Celeron
[21:56] <deany> chazco, yes, odd.....
[21:56] <Voltaire> Iceman_B^Laptop: Umm... a text editor?
[21:56] <kneeki> Voltaire: ps aux?
[21:56] <gearsecond> but i cant make run Ubuntu
[21:56] <Voltaire> kneeki: Displays all running processes
[21:56] <anthonys> gearsecond: why not?
[21:56] <Iceman_B^Laptop> Voltaire: I recall a tool to parse the config file.....
[21:56] <kneeki> Voltaire: I'll be, I didn't know
[21:56] <Iceman_B^Laptop> and check it for errors etc
[21:57] <gearsecond> I dont know
[21:57] <gartral> gearsecond: 224? that CANT be right, or else you have bad (or REEEAAAALLLLY old) ram
[21:57] <nado> Zedde, not on my end
[21:57] <ellar> gartral: hey! I'm running Ubuntu on 384 just fine...
[21:57] <gearsecond> no bcaus ubuntu demands a minimum of 394 mb ram
[21:57] <gearsecond> ¬¬
[21:57] <Flannel> gearsecond: No, just the Desktop CD
[21:57] <graingert> kneeki-> kill it with xkill
[21:57] <Voltaire> ellar: May I recommend fluxbox or icewm?
[21:57] <PhotoJim> I ran a PII-400 384MB RAM with 8.04 fine.  only got rid of it because I had faster machines.  it still did the job.
[21:58] <mkarnicki> fluxbox's nice :)
[21:58] <gartral> ellar: yes, but theres no way 224mb of ram is whats on his chips, it should be 256
[21:58] <kneeki> graingert: I'm doing some updates right now, should I wait you think?
[21:58] <ellar> Voltaire: why? Ilike the gnome desktop and for me it's ok. But thanks8-)
[21:58] <chazco> Shared video memory maybe? Sometimes reported like that
[21:58] <guntbert> Iceman_B^Laptop: testparm
[21:58] <PhotoJim> gartral: 224 is possible.  128 + 64 + 32
[21:58] <deany> gartral, shared video
[21:58] <graingert> kneeki-> dunno
[21:58] <deany> maybe
[21:58] <gearsecond> i tried to install ubuntu bt it was hanged
[21:58] <gearsecond> so i installed xubuntu
[21:58] <PhotoJim> deany: good theory.  shared video memory.
[21:58] <gearsecond> but in up to try the 7,10
[21:58] <QPrime> ellar: if he has  AGP shared memory why not?
[21:58] <Flannel> gearsecond: That's fine.  Xubuntu is just as good.
[21:59] <anthonys> gearsecond: did you try the alternate installer?
[21:59] <gearsecond> xubuntu
[21:59] <gearsecond> no
[21:59] <peepsalot> if I just install the nvidia driver i want from apt-get, is that the same thing that the restricted drivers app does?  or is there other configurations that must be done?
[21:59] <Zedde> as soon I deactivate the drivers and reboot the fan stops spinning at high speed , but then my sound starts to lag when I scroll a webpage
[21:59] <gartral> deany: yea, i forgot, old hardware shares ram, im so used to my nvidia cards
[21:59] <gearsecond> but xubuntu is also giving me troubles
[21:59] <gearsecond> cuz it gets hanged
[21:59] <deany> gartral, and me my 256mb mobility radeon 9800 :_
[21:59] <gearsecond> i supose that its because of the ram memory
[21:59] <Voltaire> gearsecond: Try fluxbuntu?
[21:59] <Flannel> gearsecond: That's not a likely cause.
[22:00] <gartral> deany: my laptop has the 128 mb one :)
[22:00] <ellar> QPrime: ?? I didn't comment on that! He should give a try but its going to be difficult
[22:00] <gearsecond> Flannel: then what it could be?
[22:00] <QPrime> ellar: yeah you were the wrong target.  ooops! ;)
[22:01] <Flannel> gearsecond: No idea.  But not RAM issues. (well, unless the RAM is going bad)
[22:01] <deany> gartral, 128mb 9800?  you mean the 9700
[22:01] <Genius314> Hi. I'm trying to record video in DOSbox, which uses the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Alt+F5. Unfortunately in Ubuntu, this just sends me to the virtual terminal. Is there a way to disable the virtual terminal, or does anyone know how to change this shortcut in DOSbox?
[22:01] <gearsecond> Ok
[22:01] <deany> gartral, my bro has one :)
[22:01] <gearsecond> but i vent got sound on xubuntu
[22:01] <gearsecond> what should i do to?
[22:01] <chazco> deany - Gone for the workround solution - created sub-directories owned by me, seems to work
[22:01] <Genius314> Nevermind, I think I just found the answer...
[22:01] <ChotaZ> How can I see the users list in XChat-gnome?
[22:01] <anthonys> gearsecond: try some other distros based on Ubuntu, as they seem to work better
[22:02] <chazco> deany - So thanks for the help, really appreciated :)
[22:02] <deany> chazco, np
[22:02] <guntbert> ChotaZ: ctrl+f7
[22:02] <UKGent> At last - got my Desktop working properly again
[22:02] <ChotaZ> guntbert: wont work
[22:02] <gartral> so, why is Compiz so good and emerald sucks so bad?
[22:02] <peepsalot> no one knows anything about restricted drivers manager?
[22:03] <alabamahit> quick question. How do i move the text in the window border to the middle? Like the name of the window text.
[22:03] <durt> gearsecond, take a look at 'ps aux' or 'top' and see if there's anything still running that is in control of alsa.
[22:03] <anthonys> gartral: Compiz manages the windows, emerald gives the decorations
[22:03] <nado> ChotaZ, do you have a "View" Menu ?
[22:03] <crdlb> alabamahit: that's a property of the theme
[22:03] <ChotaZ> nado, I do but nothing there ?
[22:03] <deany> gartral, i find without emerald my videos are choppy as hell...with emerald and a theme they are fine (using X11 yes)
[22:03] <gartral> anthonys: yes, but emerald looks.... horible
[22:03] <guntbert> ChotaZ: sorry, didn't read the whole line, I use xchat (not -gnome)
[22:03] <Iceman_B^Laptop> guntbert: thank you !
[22:03] <nado> ChotaZ, weird man..
[22:03] <ChotaZ> guntbert: trhough wine?
[22:04] <anthonys> gartral: that is the theme that you are using for emerald. you can find more from synaptic or just looking around online
[22:04] <guntbert> Iceman_B^Laptop: you're welcome
[22:04] <nado> ChotaZ, it's just xchat.. gnome doesn't have much to do with xchat
[22:04] <deany> and im using Dust, GTK and emerald.. not a lot of difference with the emerald one.. and somehow, my vids are smooth
[22:04] <guntbert> ChotaZ: why wine?
[22:04] <alabamahit> crdlb, yeah but how do you change it. I konw its in the theme....but how do yo umodify it.
[22:04] <gartral> anthonys: ive made several of my own, but the action buttons keep disappearing on my focused window
[22:04] <ChotaZ> guntbert: thought xchat-gnome was the xchat port for linux <.<
[22:05] <crdlb> alabamahit: well, you'd have to learn how to edit metacity themes (assuming you're using metacity or gtk-window-decorator)
[22:05] <nado> ChotaZ, xchat existed on linux before it was ported to an other OS :)
[22:05] <guntbert> ChotaZ: no, there is xchat  too
[22:05] <anthonys> gartral: are you sure that you're doing it right?
[22:05] <nado> ChotaZ, just xchat is what you want
[22:05] <deany> why people use xchat-gnome i dont know.. just use xchat2..
[22:05] <guntbert> !info xchat | ChotaZ
[22:05] <ChotaZ> nado: I guess xD
[22:05] <alabamahit> crdlb, so you saying i can not use a .gtkrc-2.0 file to change it?
[22:05] <PhotoJim> deany: I use irssi.  or chatzilla if I want gui.
[22:05] <nado> ChotaZ, sudo apt-get install xchat
[22:05] <gartral> anthonys: there is no doing it wrong, you go through the theam editor and make a theme, but the button keep disappearing on my windows....
[22:06] <ChotaZ> nado: ill remove this one with adept first, brb
[22:06] <deany> PhotoJim, i used chatzilla in windows , nice app.. but in linux i prefer xchat
[22:06] <crdlb> alabamahit: indeed, you need to duplicate the metacity theme and modify it
[22:06] <deany> PhotoJim,  and xchat in windows costs money :)
[22:06] <anthonys> gartral: I've never had that problem. Maybe Metacity or something is messing with it?
[22:06] <PhotoJim> deany: I use irssi and chatzilla in windows too.  well, irssi on a Linux box via PuTTy.
[22:06] <isseu> "PhotoJim,  and xchat in windows costs money :)" ¿¿really??
[22:06] <gartral> anthonys: no, i turn metacity completly off
[22:06] <guntbert> !ot | deany, PhotoJim
[22:06] <alabamahit> crdlb, where are the default themes at? they aren't in the .theme
[22:06] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[22:07] <crdlb> alabamahit: /usr/share/themes/
[22:07] <alabamahit> crdlb, Thanks :)
[22:07] <deany> dont think i`ll ever stop using Dust as my theme
[22:07] <anthonys> gartral: interesting... I've never had to do anything to make emerald work right, but w/e
[22:07] <gartral> woaw, pidgin froze
[22:08] <ChotaZ> YEY!
[22:08] <Ubuntubear> Hey all
[22:08] <crdlb> gartral: emerald is unmaintained and known to be very buggy
[22:08] <ChotaZ> emerald is the poop, just use gtk2.0 themes
[22:08] <Ubuntubear> so what could one use in the place of emerald?
[22:09] <deany> only thing i didnt like about chatzilla, was pressing up/down arrow to select history of my text, with chatzilla whatever network/channel you are on it just shows all.. xchat shows only for that channel/network
[22:09] <deany> ChotaZ, enabling emerald smooths my videos (using X11)
[22:09] <fannagoganna1> in Ubuntu, how do I set the system paths to find files, since some executables are located in /opt/kde3/bin
[22:09] <guntbert> deany: please keep to the topic, the channel is noisy enough
[22:09] <deany> sorry...
[22:10] <gartral> it might be vrunner...
[22:10] <fannagoganna1> that is, are there configuration files in /etc/* that I should set?
[22:11] <ChotaZ> !wine > ChotaZ
[22:11] <Flannel> fannagoganna1: /etc/environment/ sets your systemwide path
[22:11] <Flannel> fannagoganna1: erm, /etc/environment
[22:12] <fannagoganna1> Flannel, thanks
[22:12] <guntbert> Flannel: how long is *that* file around? never seen it before
[22:16] <intelGMA500> hi! I'm trying to install a intel gma 500 over ubuntu 9.04, any help please?
[22:17] <eressolar> intelGMA500: #ubuntu+1
[22:17] <intelGMA500> what's ubuntu+1. I know, a chanel, but why this distiction +1 ?
[22:17] <jamiejackson> what's the favored way to rip audio cds? (should be GUI, so my wife can do it)
[22:18] <Flannel> intelGMA500: Because Development Versions aren't supported by this channel. Only officially supported versions are supported here.
[22:18] <intelGMA500> ok Flannel thanks
[22:19] <koshar2> intelGMA500 its a forum to discuss upcoming distros that havnt reached Release, ie current version +1
[22:22] <UnderTaker> Ubuntu cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches
[22:22] <UnderTaker> Ubuntu is cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches
[22:22] <jrib> UnderTaker: hi, do you have a support question?
[22:22] <UnderTaker> Ballmer is the man
[22:22] <SlimeyPete> no, he's just quoting Ballmer
[22:22] <jklock> SAYING EVERYTHING TO ME TIMES 2
[22:22] <jklock> SAY MY NAME SAY MY NAME
[22:22] <Ascavasaion> How do I get my Wireless LAN to scan for other networks... the Networks Applet says that my eth1 is disconnected.
[22:22] <Flannel> !caps | jklock
[22:23] <jklock> hah
[22:23] <ginbuntu> what application do you use to sync your music with the iphone?
[22:23] <UnderTaker> Linux and Ubuntu are cancers that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches
[22:24] <Iceman_B^Ltop> wow
[22:24] <Iceman_B^Ltop> Ubuntu is a cancer?
[22:24] <nado> test
[22:24] <Iceman_B^Ltop> =_=
[22:24] <Iceman_B^Ltop> some people....
[22:24] <Cpudan80> lets just move along
[22:24] <Cpudan80> Anyway ....
[22:24] <jklock> whos got q's I got a's
[22:25] <Iceman_B^Ltop> jklock
[22:25] <C0n> !help
[22:25] <Iceman_B^Ltop> whats the minimum a Samba config needs?
[22:25] <C0n> how to mound media disk?
[22:25] <jklock> Iceman_B^Ltop: minimum what?
[22:25] <Iceman_B^Ltop> config lines
[22:26] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I want to set up a part of my drive as a share for me and my housemates
[22:26] <jklock> Iceman_B^Ltop: ok
[22:26] <Iceman_B^Ltop> and I want the linux file permissions sturcture there as wel
[22:26] <Iceman_B^Ltop> how do I do this ?
[22:26] <Iceman_B^Ltop> no printers or guest users
[22:27] <jklock> Iceman_B^Ltop: gotcha, lemme formulate an answer/example
[22:27] <Iceman_B^Ltop> jklock: sure. in here, or pm, however you see fit
[22:27] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I'll wait :)
[22:29] <ChotaZ> jklock: Been using ubuntu for 4 days, so far, so good ^^
[22:29] <Beyond> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4711872/ubuntu-8.10-dvd-amd64.iso
[22:29] <WatchBot> Beyond: Please keep your links on topic and work safe.
[22:30] <Beyond> O.o
[22:30] <Guest85526> got the mouse to work
[22:30] <Guest85526> the system needed a reboot from a bunch of updates
[22:31] <a5x7> Hello, recently i was messing with my font settings and now open office opens everything with a weird font and the firefox toolbar has a weird font where it says File, View, Bookmarks, ect.. any ideas?
[22:31] <Guest85526> quick question tho.... in 8.10 when i used my scroll wheel it would flip between desks... can i still do that in 9.04 and if so how do i make it so it will do that
[22:31] <theD3viL11> Hi there! Can someone help me with tv-out with intel graphic card? i had nvidia, now i have laptop and i dont know how to do it for intel..
[22:32] <guntbert> !jaunty | Guest85526
[22:32] <a5x7> ﻿Guest85526; i think its in the compiz advance settings
[22:32] <Sagaci> what's the command for upgrading a package via termail
[22:33] <Guest85526> sorry didnt realize i was in the wrong channel
[22:33] <ChotaZ> Sagaci apt-get upgrade pkgname
[22:33] <a5x7> i think its something like sudo apt-get updates
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[22:33] <movedx> Does anyone know how-to stream media to an XBox 360 from Linux in the same fashion you can stream from Windows?
[22:33] <ChotaZ> Sagaci or apt-get update pkgname I dunno
[22:33] <ms2134> Who has Linux Server?
[22:34] <ms2134> .?
[22:34] <durt> Sagaci if you just want the one package to be upgraded 'sudo apt-get install <package>' will check to see if it's the latest version.
[22:34] <ms2134> http://www.cis-webhosting.com/
[22:34] <guntbert> ms2134: this is the ubuntu support channel, chatter please in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:34] <ms2134> http://www.rsdarkness.com/
[22:35] <Frijolie> what causes "unclean shutdown" error upon boot? fsck freezes at 44% and reboots, retrys and freezes again
[22:35] <Sagaci> i've installed the jaunty beta release and i've tried to open up the update manager and it has come up with an error
[22:35] <Sagaci> telling me to upgrade a few packages
[22:36] <durt> Sagaci, 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'.
[22:36] <M4d3L> anyway to emulate IE7 on linux?
[22:37] <Sagaci> thanks
[22:37] <durt> np
[22:37] <laanan> hello, i have a fresh Ubuntu 8.10 install (already updated everything) and Intel 82945G/GZ gfx (xserver-xorg-video-intel).. 3D apps seem very slow, like they are software rendered. do i need more/different packages to enable hardware acceleration ? thanks in advance.
[22:38] <Ryan_Delaney> I need to disable Emulate3Buttons in x, but all the guides I can find online are for older versions. Anyone know how to do this in ubuntu intrepid?
[22:39] <durt> Ryan_Delaney, same way as the old versions.
[22:39] <macman> hey all im looking for the fonts that they used to sign the decleration of independance .. anyone know a good site that has free fonts ?
[22:39] <afallenhope> does dpkg --list list the packages installed or available?
[22:39] <Ryan_Delaney> durt: I didn't know how to do it in older versions... but the ones I are finding are telling me to edit lines in the configuration file that don't exist
[22:40] <durt> Ryan_Delaney, the file exists. xorg.conf, there's just nothing in it anymore
[22:40] <Ryan_Delaney> durt: Right... so should I just add these lines to the empty file then?
[22:40] <durt> yup
[22:40] <Ryan_Delaney> All right, I'll try it, thaks
[22:40] <Ryan_Delaney> thanks*
[22:41] <meoblast001> how do i make an ISO?
[22:41] <meoblast001> i have some files i want to ISO
[22:42] <Ryan_Delaney> durt: Do I need to restart X to get changes?
[22:42] <durt> meoblast001, either brasero or k3b will make an iso for you.
[22:42] <durt> Ryan_Delaney, yes
[22:42] <Ryan_Delaney> Ok thanks
[22:43] <SoulReaver> Hey guys I have a simple question, I forgot what the name of the "package expander" was called, it's the one where it updates terminal or Ubuntu or any linux distro for that matter on what repositories they can download.
[22:43] <durt> SoulReaver, software sources form the menu
[22:43] <gartral> if one would want to output the contents of a check, lets say, lsusb, to a file, say ./Desktop/lsusbout.txt through the command line, how is that done?
[22:43] <taz_> i have compiz and where i cant have one  cube atlantis ?? where i can get it ??
[22:43] <durt> *from even
[22:43] <Scunizi> ubottu says Trash is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash.. however the trash I'm trying to delete isn't located there.. where else do I look?
[22:44] <meoblast001> durt: cant find the option in brasero
[22:44] <durt> gartral,  simple redirction '>'
[22:44] <isus> привет
[22:44] <isus> всем
[22:44] <FloodBot1> isus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:44] <guntbert> gartral: lsusb > lsusbout.txt
[22:44] <SoulReaver> durt: it was a 3rd party updater though I would tell you the name if I could but I can't remember :(
[22:44] <georgy_28> !ru
[22:44] <deany> meoblast001, k3b is lot more mature. use that...
[22:44] <gartral> durt, would you be kind enough to examplify that?
[22:44] <axisys> how do I upload music to iphone ?
[22:45] <|PaperTiger|> My system just went silent. No sound, music or anything... :S
[22:45] <durt> meoblast001, nothing saying 'just create iso'?
[22:45] <meoblast001> got it
[22:45] <gartral> durt, nvm, ty
[22:45] <RobynM> Ok, so I have an 8.10 disk in this laptop, and i try to install, it gets as far as keyboard layout, when I click next, it just hangs
[22:45] <meoblast001> durt: there was an option when i hit burn
[22:45] <durt> gartral, ???
[22:45] <gartral> guntbert: and to redirect it to my desktop i should substitue the path to, correct?
[22:45] <deany> personally, brasero isnt good enough for me...
[22:46] <zekAtreides> i installed xubuntu 8.10 on an IBM thinkpad A20m it installed fine and at the login window the mouse cursor moves fluently and for a short time after i log in it moves fluently then it starts lagging really badly, sometimes the cursor disappears and it is impossible to do anything on the system i think it is 128mb or 256(not sure) and ~700mHz, ideas?
[22:46] <emhs> Howdy folks.  Anyone have a link to a guide or tip on installing multiple OSs on a flash drive?
[22:46] <meoblast001> durt: eh... the disk wouldn't copy..... i wish this emulator had direct support for the CD
[22:46] <Slart> deany: anything special that brasero doesn't do for you? just curious what I might be missing out on when I use brasero
[22:46] <meoblast001> so i didn't have to ISO it
[22:46] <Supertanker> Hi. The libpam-chroot package appears to be broken
[22:47] <guntbert> gartral: yes: lsusb > ~/Desktop/usbout.txt, or so, you can read about this under "redirection in bash"
[22:47] <gartral> guntbert: thanks very much
[22:47] <Supertanker> I get "undefined symbol: __stack_chk_fail_local" in auth.log when I try to use it.
[22:47] <emhs> Can you put grub on a flash drive?
[22:47] <guntbert> gartral: glad to help, have fun :-))
[22:47] <emhs> Or some kind of boot menu?
[22:48] <jambo> Hello
[22:48] <pronoy> emhs: yes
[22:48] <pronoy> !hello | jambo
[22:48] <zekAtreides> are there some boot options to change or something.  or maybe a different windows manager that would take less resources, i dont neet much i am comfortable with a command line
[22:48] <deany> Slart,  nothing specific, just general overall capability.. i kknow its crashed once or twice.. been a month or 2 since i used it last
[22:48] <theD3viL11> Can someone help me with tv-out with intel graphic card? i had nvidia, now i have laptop and i dont know how to do it for intel..
[22:49] <RobynM> What do I do if the install on 8.10 hangs at the keyboard selection?
[22:49] <Slart> deany: ok, thanks
[22:49] <jambo> How Long Does Postage Roughly Take To Australia (Can't Wait To HAve Go Of Ubuntu!)?
[22:49] <deany> Slart, its still a newish app
[22:49] <pronoy> zekAtreides: Xcfe is i guess the lightest
[22:49] <Slart> RobynM: are you sure it's not hanging on whatever comes after the keyboard selection?
[22:49] <Scunizi> I always forget that all external devices (ie usb storage) has their own hidden Trash directory.
[22:49] <RobynM> slart - it hangs when I click next on keyboard
[22:50] <zekAtreides> pronoy: ideas on removing the lag
[22:50] <deany> Slart, maybe if i gave the latest version a go it might be better, but thats bypassing repo`s and using getdeb,
[22:50] <Slart> RobynM: ok, sounds like it's keyboard setup alright.. can't really imagine why it would crash there..strange
[22:51] <pronoy> zekAtreides: depends upon the lag is your file browser crashing taking to much time... depends
[22:51] <RobynM> Slart - forward is grayed out now, but it still lets me click different layouts
[22:51] <zekAtreides> pronoy: what about file browser crashing?
[22:51] <joot> jambo, why not download it??
[22:52] <afallenhope> !ufw
[22:52] <afallenhope> !firewall
[22:52] <pronoy> zekAtreides: well for starters if you are on gnome you'll find that nautilus crashes a lot while running vids
[22:52] <jambo> Because That Woild Use All Of My DOwnload Limit (Which IS ONly 1000MB)
[22:52] <pronoy> zekAtreides: that gets solved in KDE using dolphin
[22:53] <zekAtreides> pronoy: ok but this is just xubuntu and i didnt do anything at startup, i just let it login and my mouse cursor still lags without any action
[22:53] <ryanCH> how come when i setup "aticonfig" my desktop effects no longer work?
[22:53] <joot> jambo, I think the dl is under 700mb
[22:54] <pronoy> zekAtreides: well it means that a process is hogging ur memory or something not sure about that....you should try gnome or KDE if you havnen't done so yeet
[22:54] <jambo> joot: I Don't HAve ENough Left For This Month.
[22:54] <todd_r> Hello all, I tried to install a newr version of the NVIDIA driver to see if a problem with a game I was having resolved, installation didn't work and now graphics a wierd, low quality. Tried reverting back to the normal driver through admin-hardware drivers but no luck. Is there a way to set everything back to defaults ?
[22:55] <joot> jambo, alt get in touch with a local "lug" they will give you a c/d or two to play with
[22:55] <zekAtreides> pronoy: do you mean at the sessions during login try the failsafe gnome?
[22:55] <pronoy> todd_r: use envy
[22:55] <jambo> joot: Okay.
[22:56] <pronoy> zekAtreides: ok first of all...what DE have you on ?
[22:56] <jambo> joot: I've Already Registered For One On Launchpad.
[22:56] <pronoy> zekAtreides: all 3 ?
[22:56] <zekAtreides> pronoy: DE?
[22:56] <pronoy> zekAtreides: Desktop Environmen
[22:56] <RobynM> is 8.10 even installable on this machine?  650 mhz p3 192 mp ram
[22:57] <zekAtreides> pronoy: i just did a normal 8.10 xubuntu install
[22:57] <durt> jambo, from what I understand ShipIt takes about as long as the government does getting you your tax refund.
[22:57] <Slart> RobynM: not sure what minimum req for memory is.. might be 256 for the live cd
[22:57] <joot> jambo, OK, as long as you get it does not matter where from...
[22:57] <todd_r> getting it now, thanks pronoy
[22:57] <pronoy> zekAtreides: ok go to terminal and install gnome
[22:57] <Slart> RobynM: you could try the alternate cd though.. that's a bit leaner..
[22:57] <Slart> !alternate | RobynM
[22:57] <zekAtreides> pronoy: under the the sessions option on login there is a failsafe gnome
[22:57] <pronoy> zekAtreides: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:57] <RobynM> ty slart
[22:57] <jambo> joot: Okay.
[22:58] <amitprakash> hi.. how do i setup multiple workspaces on multiple monitors?
[22:58] <pronoy> zekAtreides: yes its like recovery...but you should download the whole thing from the terminal
[22:58] <zekAtreides> pronoy: ok ill try that
[22:58] <zekAtreides> pronoy: should i boot under recovery then use the root terminal?
[22:59] <jambo> joot: What Information Do You Need?
[22:59] <joot> jambo, You might find this helpful.............http://www.linux.org.au/
[22:59] <deany> jambo, cant you just get a pal to download and burn it?
[23:00] <pronoy> zekAtreides: yes its like recovery...but you should download the whole thing from the terminal
[23:00] <amitprakash> hi.. how do i setup multiple workspaces on multiple monitors??
[23:00] <jambo> joot: Yes, I Can.
[23:00] <zekAtreides> pronoy: ok ill give that a shot
[23:00] <|PaperTiger|> I have no sound. No music player has sound. But my system makes a logout sound. Can someone help
[23:01] <Gralamin> I've got a problem getting X to load, I'm trying to fix it, but help would be appreciated.
[23:02] <pronoy> amitprakash: do you mean a different workspace on each monitor ?
[23:02] <amitprakash> pronoy, yes
[23:02] <emhs> pronoy: Know the name of a system that'll do it?  Ideally one I can run from a windows machine here at work?
[23:02] <Smoken> hello
[23:02] <devoid> what do I need to download to be able to play MP3s on music player?
[23:03] <pronoy> emhs: i didn't get that
[23:03] <deany> devoid, ubuntu-restricted-extras? depends
[23:03] <devoid> deany: thanks I'll try that
[23:03] <pronoy> amitprakash: i think i read about that in ubuntu-brainstorm
[23:03] <pronoy> it was an idea
[23:03] <pronoy> hang on
[23:03] <imast> Hey guys i was about to install a gigabyte mobo and wanted to know if i should use insulating washers between the top of the mobo and the mobo screws or if i want the screws to touch the metql circles on top of the motherboard? Thanks
[23:03] <Smoken> any one here have wow installed on ubuntu?
[23:03] <jambo> joot: Thank You.
[23:03] <deany> devoid, its a metapackage for java and flash as well...stuff we all (99%) want
[23:04] <emhs> pronoy: I'm trying to figure out how to have a choice of what operating system to boot from my flash drive.  Know a program that can do that?
[23:04] <undertuga> r
[23:04] <joot> jambo, NP. hope it works out for you.
[23:04] <Gralamin> Damnit. How do I get Fglrx to stop loading so I can load X...
[23:05] <deany> Gralamin, unload it from dkms and set xorg to radeon
[23:05] <Gralamin> deany: How would I get a command line to do so?
[23:06] <deany> boot recovery mode
[23:06] <Sagaci> hi, i've just upgraded to the 9.04 beta and i'm having trouble getting flash player to work again via youtube, is there something i have to reinstall?
[23:06] <Gralamin> That just brings me to a menu with a few options on it.
[23:06] <Smoken> deany,  may i ask if you know anyting about installing wow on ubuntu?
[23:07] <Smoken> Gralamin, can you drop to a root shell?
[23:07] <deany> Gralamin, ATI card?
[23:07] <pronoy> emhs: oh the grub problem....well you can have partitions in your drive install multiple OS then install grub and then edit it
[23:07] <pronoy> emhs: or if you are going to install ubuntu on anyone of them do it last ..so that grub automatically edits it
[23:07] <Gralamin> deany: yes
[23:07] <pronoy> Smoken: WOW world of warcraft ?
[23:07] <deany> Smoken, in wine?    http://winehq.org
[23:07] <Gralamin> Smoken: Not sure how I would do that.
[23:07] <deany> dkms remove -m fglrx -v 8.522 --all  (8.522 example, whatever your version is..im assumin you wanna remove/upgrade drivers)
[23:08] <zek> pronoy: it couldnt find the package
[23:08] <pronoy> zek: envy ? google it ....
[23:08] <Smoken> pronoy, yes ive tryed wine and it worked goot for wow and wow bc, but i cant seam to get it working with wotlk
[23:08] <deany> Gralamin, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide  useful
[23:08] <Smoken> good*
[23:08] <deany> Gralamin, set "fglrx" to "radeon" in xorg
[23:08] <Gralamin> deany: This problem started when I tried to get it running using the "ATI way"
[23:09] <pronoy> zek: you probably need to edit your repository list
[23:09] <pronoy> zek: get more repos
[23:09] <imast> Hey guys i was about to install a gigabyte mobo and wanted to know if i should use insulating washers between the top of the mobo and the mobo screws or if i want the screws to touch the metql circles on top of the motherboard? ThanksHey guys i was about to install a gigabyte mobo and wanted to know if i should use insulating washers between the top of the mobo and the mobo screws or if i want the screws to touch the metql circles on top of the motherboard? Th
[23:09] <zek> pronoy:  is there a site with instructions on how to do that from command line?
[23:09] <efeX^> Does anyone know why my terminal window size settings wont save on exit?
[23:09] <pronoy> zek: yes ...envy's own site... google it
[23:10] <Smoken> this place is pretty busy huh
[23:10] <deany> Gralamin, ive actually just upgraded mine, and had a problem bootin to ati/radeon mode, my screen went white like my laptop was knackred.. i had to remove the dkms module and packages
[23:10] <pronoy> amitprakash: if by multiple workspaces you mean like for example multiple wallpapers on different monitors ?
[23:10] <deany> Gralamin, seems if fglrx is there it`ll auto use it
[23:11] <Gralamin> deany: I tried running that command once I figured out how to get to root. dkms states there is no 9.3 in the tree
[23:11] <zek> pronoy: isnt that for a graphics cards?
[23:11] <deany> Gralamin, whatever your version is...... use tab complete
[23:11] <Roney> ola boa noite a todos
[23:11] <deany> 8.522 is 9.2
[23:12] <Roney> como configurar o modem 3g no Ubuntu Ultimate
[23:12] <Gralamin> 8.522 is 9.2? Thats kinda confusing
[23:12] <deany> 8.543 is 9.3
[23:12] <durt> !es > Roney
[23:12] <htet> i wonder if gnome multi terminal will be supported in the next update
[23:12] <pronoy> zek: yes nvidia drivers..you wanted to rollback right ?
[23:13] <Gralamin> deany: Each time I run it I get "Error! There are no instances of module: fglrx 9.3 located in the DKMS tree
[23:13] <Gralamin> "
[23:13] <zek> pronoy: i wanted to get my xubuntu setup running
[23:13] <deany> What version do you have?
[23:13] <zek> pronoy: i had to get offline and my username changed
[23:13] <deany> fglrxinfo?
[23:13] <wazak> всем привет :-D
[23:13] <zek> pronoy: i was zekAtreides
[23:14] <emhs> pronoy: multiple partitions on a flash drive?
[23:14] <Gralamin> deany: I should have 9.3 as thats the driver file I grabbed fgrom ATI's Site.
[23:14] <wazak> аууу
[23:14] <darkfile1> hi @all
[23:14] <AniVisual> hiya
[23:14] <chronic> hi bud
[23:15] <pronoy> zek: yes nvidia drivers..you wanted to rollback right ?
[23:15] <pronoy> zek: oh man !! i am so sorry.....ok you wanted gnome on it.....
[23:15] <pronoy> zek: yeah...ok no problem...well you said you didn't find any package called ubuntu-desktop ?
[23:15] <pronoy> emhs: it is possible..yes
[23:15] <deany> well, the example i used was for 9.2
[23:15] <FloodBot1> pronoy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:15] <pronoy> emhs: depending upon the size..i am assuming your flash is in gigs
[23:15] <emhs> 8g
[23:15] <Cheeseum> you people seem like pretty nice people
[23:15] <darkfile1> i managed it to put my grub and /boot to a USB stick, so everything on HDD is crypto now
[23:15] <darkfile1> :)
[23:15] <Cheeseum> how should I go about thermal pasting my quad core?
[23:15] <zek> pronoy: its fine, thanks for helping, yeah, it said that the package wasnt found
[23:15] <darkfile1> question: what will happen if a new kernel comes out while /boot is not mounted?
[23:15] <Flannel> Cheeseum: That's not really on topic here.  You should try #ubuntu-offtopic (althoug I'm sure theres a better place other than that)
[23:16] <darkfile1> will it destroy my apt?
[23:16] <Cheeseum> ah alright then
[23:16] <Cheeseum> this channel just comes up by default here
[23:16] <Gralamin> deany: 8.543 doesn't work either, and flgrxinfo doesn't do anything
[23:16] <Flare183> Cheeseum: Try ##hardware
[23:16]  * Flare183 thinks thats the right channel
[23:16] <deany> dkms remove -m fglrx -v 8.543 --allsudo dkms remove -m fglrx -v 8.593 -all
[23:17] <deany> thats the version, on mine... odd
[23:17] <pronoy> zek: do you have the repositories selected in the software sources tab ?
[23:17] <deany> sorry
[23:17] <deany> Gralamin,    sudo dkms remove -m fglrx -v 8.593 -all
[23:17] <darkfile1> hmm
[23:17] <zek> pronoy: i dont know i havent been able to do anything with the system
[23:17] <darkfile1> anyone knows what happens on a new kernel update while /boot is not mounted?
[23:17] <Guest59065> how can I pipe my currently running processes to a vim file?
[23:17] <Gralamin> deany: Ah Sudo did it, thanks
[23:17] <pronoy> BTW whoever wanted multiple workspaces on multiple displays may check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264565
[23:18] <Flare183> Guest59065: ps -ea > textfile
[23:18] <darkfile1> will it kindly ask me to mount /boot, or will it destroy everything?
[23:18] <pronoy> zek: you mean you haven't been able to access your system ???
[23:18] <deany> Gralamin, if you are in recovery console,  you are root
[23:18] <chronic> darkfile1, it prob wont update
[23:18] <Gralamin> deany: wouldn't work without sudo still, uninstalled now though.
[23:18] <zek> pronoy: the lag is too bad to be able to work on the xubunut install
[23:18] <darkfile1> chronic, but it will try again on the next update run?
[23:18] <Gralamin> And x still isn't loading.
[23:19] <deany> Gralamin, dont forget to uninstall the packages.
[23:19] <darkfile1> its because i set /boot to "noauto", so i can remove the usb stick after booting
[23:19] <chronic> darkfile1, makes sense
[23:19] <Gralamin> deany: How'd I'd do that?
[23:19] <deany> once you boot into your GUI....
[23:19] <Gralamin> Won't let me still
[23:20] <deany> Gralamin, search in synaptic.. fglrx, xorg, anything with that version
[23:20] <pronoy> emhs: how many OS do you want on it ?
[23:20] <pronoy> zek: ok can you get to the command line ?
[23:21] <zek> pronoy: yeah there now. though it doesnt have internet. to get internet i will have to get off this channel
[23:21] <Gralamin> deany: I seem to now get my bios loading screen tiled across my screen, and no x serv. Anyway I can try and fix x in the root?
[23:21] <M4d3L> hi, any way exist to emulate IE7 on ubuntu?
[23:21] <emhs> pronoy: A few, all linux-based
[23:21] <ryanCH> how come when i setup "aticonfig" my desktop effects no longer work?
[23:22] <deany> Gralamin, recovery mode, fix X server
[23:22] <Gralamin> Doesn't fix it
[23:22] <perlsyntax> how do i compile python 2.5.4 on ubuntu 8.10?
[23:22] <perlsyntax> ?
[23:22] <deany> backup xorg.conf and remove it
[23:22] <deany> well, dont remove it, just have it there as empty
[23:23] <Gralamin> deany: Commands needed? Its been a long time since I last used linux
[23:23] <lakis1982> i have ubuntu .. how can i see my second hard disk which i use as a storage disk for music ,moveis etc ????
[23:23] <pronoy> zek: oh man i have to go.......you know what take a look at these..it'll help you complete your installation of gnome in command line
[23:23] <perlsyntax> is there a way i can get python 2.5.4 in my apt-get?
[23:23] <durt> M4d3L, probably in wine, check www.winehq.com (or .org whatever)
[23:23] <pronoy> zek http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338677
[23:23] <zek> pronoy: than you very much for all ur help
[23:24] <pronoy> zek: sorry for not having to go all the way
[23:24] <zek> pronoy: thats ok
[23:24] <pronoy> emhs: you need to edit grub using the live cd
[23:24] <pronoy> emhs: install your os on the flash and then install ubuntu or just grub using ubuntu live c
[23:25] <pronoy> ok gotta go
[23:25] <nonewmsgs> my ubuntu stopped working properly a few days ago.  now when i try to login the screen starts to change and then sends me back to the login screen.  i have tried to repair X via the recovery mode as well as the dpkg reconfigure thing.  any more ideas before i just reinstall ubuntu
[23:25] <fastputty> #j ubuntu
[23:26] <deany> Gralamin, sudo dkpg-reconfigure  command i cant remember, with -phigh
[23:26] <amitprakash> hi.. how do i setup multiple workspaces on multiple monitors??
[23:26] <fastputty> hello someone help me out,  my harddrive detect an error : ubnable to mount my hardrive
[23:27] <fastputty> mount: acording to mtab /dev/sda1 is already mounted on .media/disk
[23:27] <fastputty> but i cannot find it
[23:28] <LjL> nonewmsgs: try creating a new user ("sudo adduser username" from a terminal) and see if you can login from that one
[23:29] <nonewmsgs> ljl it doesnt work
[23:29] <LjL> nonewmsgs: ah, you've tried already?
[23:29] <nonewmsgs> ljl but i can login with all of them via a console
[23:29] <nonewmsgs> ljl yeah
[23:30] <nonewmsgs> ljl i also tried to go from driver nvidia to driver nv.  i just wish it watied one more month to eff up so i could use the shiny new juanty
[23:30] <LjL> nonewmsgs: try looking at the contents of ~/.xsession-errors
[23:32] <Gralamin> Right, this doesn't seem to be working. Since I just installed it, it won't really be a problem to reinstall it from scratch
[23:33] <amitprakash> hi.. how do i setup multiple workspaces on multiple monitors??
[23:33] <nonewmsgs> LjL: neat idea, but there isn't anything in there other than a few aged errors i already fixed from samba
[23:34] <deany> Gralamin, whats wrong with 9.3 drivers?
[23:34] <Gralamin> deany: X won't load if I have them on.
[23:34] <Gralamin> Or after I remove them, even when I revert to an older version
[23:35] <zekAtreides> this might be a stupid question but is dsl debian based?
[23:35] <chronic> is there a command to hide join/part?
[23:35] <Gralamin> Might have something to do with how I have to open ubuntu in the safe-graphics mode when installing.
[23:35] <deany> chronic,  isoservers chronic?
[23:36] <rww> chronic: which client are you using?
[23:36] <chronic> deany, xchat
[23:37] <rww> chronic: right-click the channel switcher for the channel, click settings, click hide joins/parts
[23:37] <deany> chronic, right click the channel tab, settings
[23:37] <IAmWill> is there anything that will fix id3 tags on mp3's?  something that can work with a lot of files at once?
[23:37] <deany> what rww said
[23:37] <rww> chronic: there's also a setting for every channel i can look up if you want
[23:38] <Gralamin> Now wiping and reinstalling Ubuntu, then I'm going to do this right from scratch.
[23:38] <chronic> when i click ion settings i get only preferences and advanced
[23:38] <zekAtreides> if xubuntu doesnt work on my system is there a decent chance that ubuntu would?
[23:38] <deany> Gralamin, installin aint too much of a b.tch eh... i had problems tho, till i removed it from dkms and uninstalled the packages,
[23:38] <ikonia> zekAtreides: its the same system, different desktop
[23:39] <rww> chronic: ** right-click on the channel switcher for that channel **
[23:39] <redfish> hi all, I am on a sony laptop (old) pcg-FX120 and the screen resolution is only 800 x 600 although under windows it can do 1024 x 768.  Screen resolution only shows up to 800 x 600.  ANy ideas
[23:39] <deany> chronic, from the channels..
[23:39] <Gralamin> deany: I'm starting to wonder if Fglrx works with my laptop =/
[23:39] <deany> Gralamin, tried the ubuntu ones?
[23:39] <deany> Gralamin, hardware drivers, activate?
[23:40] <Gralamin> deany: Doesn't work either
[23:40] <redfish> btw, there is an inch black border around the screen
[23:40] <chronic> deany, got it, thank you
[23:40] <zekAtreides> ikonia: so ubuntu doesnt have better hardware support or anything ? the only difference is the window manager?
[23:40] <chronic> rww, got it thank you
[23:40] <ikonia> zekAtreides: pretty much
[23:40] <deany> Gralamin, very odd
[23:40] <deany> Gralamin, try jaunty
[23:41] <deany> Gralamin, and just update it till its final
[23:41] <magikid> I'm trying to get phpmyadmin up and running but it just prompts me to download a phtml file.  Any suggestions?
[23:41] <Schmidt> Is there a way to before suspending/hibernating stop a service and start again when resuming?
[23:41] <zekAtreides> ikonia: ok thanks, then i dont think that ubuntu will work on my system. would a different (older) version be worth trying
[23:41] <ikonia> zekAtreides: depends on the problem
[23:41] <Gralamin> deany: I'd rather not, I'll just screw using fglrx for now.
[23:42] <memores> hey there.  I was wondering if someone could help me out with Ubuntu and Open Office.  Whenever I open a DOC file, radio buttons do not appear.
[23:42] <deany> Gralamin, what gfx card is it?
[23:42] <zekAtreides> ikonia: when i go to loging screen the mouse cursor moves flawlessly then when i login without doing anything and after everything loads the mouse cursor lags, sometimes disappears
[23:42] <Gralamin> deany: Though I'll have to find someway of getting the 1366 x 768 to work. Card wise, Let me remember...
[23:43] <Gralamin> Might of been a ATI Radeon™ HD 3200
[23:43] <memores> hey there.  I was wondering if someone could help me out with Ubuntu and Open Office.  Whenever I open a DOC file, radio buttons do not appear.
[23:43] <IAmWill> is there anything that will fix id3 tags on mp3's?  something that can work with a lot of files at once?
[23:43] <Excell> maybe do a lspci?
[23:43] <deany> IAmWill, easytag
[23:44] <IAmWill> deany, thanks
[23:44] <Gralamin> HD 3650
[23:44] <chronic> zekAtreides, ur pc lags withn xubuntu? what r the specs?
[23:44] <Gralamin> Thats it
[23:44] <zekAtreides> ikonia: the system in question is a ibm thinkpad a20m ~700 mHz and either 256 or 128 ram
[23:44] <deany> mines an old 9800, i dont know about these HD ones
[23:44] <ikonia> zekAtreides: you're certainly lacking ram
[23:45] <axisys> !iphone
[23:45] <zekAtreides> ikonia: it should work though
[23:45] <lantay77> !rockbox
[23:45] <zekAtreides> ikoniaL ive had linux on here before and this is definitely different than just taking longer to do stuff
[23:45] <chronic> zekAtreides, u should try dsl,
[23:45] <zekAtreides> chronic: as a live cd or a permanent install
[23:46] <ve3txz> GNfb8W
[23:46] <chronic> zekAtreides, i hear puppy linux is also small , not sure how good
[23:46] <ve3txz> oops wrong keyboard  lol
[23:46] <lantay77> puppy linux fail
[23:46] <Dreamglider> puppy is small :)
[23:46] <memores> hey there.  I was wondering if someone could help me out with Ubuntu and Open Office.  Whenever I open a DOC file, radio buttons do not appear.  Is this is a known issue or am I using the wrong region?
[23:46] <mhall119> Xubuntu will run fine on 256 MB of RAM
[23:46] <chronic> ve3txz, nice password, better cHANGE IT FAST
[23:47] <zekAtreides> chronic: i need it for programming a rcx with brickos, the instructions are for a debian system,  would dsl probably work?
[23:47] <mhall119> if you get the alternate installer, you can probably get it working reasonably well on 128MB
[23:47] <lantay77> ram is cheap get more
[23:48] <deany> puppy fail?  http://www.duffydack.karoo.net/puppyfail.jpg
[23:48] <mhall119> Xubuntu is free, get that
[23:48] <gigabites2> fluxbuntu
[23:48] <ikonia> mhall119: he's lacking ram
[23:48] <chronic> zekAtreides, not sure, but it should work in any distro, it's all linux
[23:48] <Dreamglider> i have Ubuntu running on my old laptop, 500MHz and 188Mb ram (4mb shared for graphics)
[23:48] <mhall119> ikonia: how much does he have?
[23:48] <ikonia> mhall119: 128
[23:49] <mhall119> should run Xubuntu
[23:49] <ikonia> mhall119: not very well
[23:49] <mhall119> he'll need the alternate install CD through, Ubiquity won't run on that
[23:49] <Dreamglider> With gnome
[23:49] <zekAtreides> i know it should because it has in the past
[23:49] <Excell> minimum 500
[23:49] <mhall119> I've run it on 192 MB
[23:49] <perlsyntax> does anyone use python in here?
[23:49] <ikonia> perlsyntax: nope, the guys in #python will though
[23:49] <zekAtreides> something went wrong with the install because the live lagged less than the install
[23:49] <axisys> !itunes
[23:49] <m1r> it runs on 128mb with openbox without problems
[23:50] <mhall119> zekAtreides: could be that your hard drive is slow
[23:50] <durt> perlsyntax, try #python
[23:50] <Tuxguy> Maildir's in linux do not have trash/ sent/ drafts... so where is that stored?
[23:50] <axisys> !players
[23:50] <zekAtreides> dont think so
[23:50] <zekAtreides> it was a good hd for the time
[23:50] <teknoprep> hi all
[23:50] <teknoprep> does anyone have Ubuntu installed with a ZFS root pool ?
[23:51] <zekAtreides> it is a 20g and bought 8 years ago
[23:51] <Gralamin> deany: Since Ubuntu and ATI way don't seem to work, think I should try to install the restricted drivers manually?
[23:51] <deany> Gralamin, I thought you did?
[23:51] <mhall119> zekAtreides: is indexing running?
[23:51] <zekAtreides> mhall119: dont know
[23:52] <mhall119> zekAtreides: check your process list for either tracker or updatedb
[23:52] <Gralamin> deany: I installed it using the Ubuntu way (Restricted Drivers manager), and the ATI way (Running the Installer)
[23:52] <Excell> Gralamin:  try in console ,, envyng?
[23:52] <Gralamin> I have yet to do what they term the manual way.
[23:52] <zekAtreides> mhall119: i cant even get it to a place where i could do that
[23:52] <deany> Gralamin, ati fglrx drivers thru hardware drivers/activate aint nowhere near upto date as ATI from the site.. try em
[23:52] <Elive_user55_en> wow, so i have an issue i need help with
[23:52] <mhall119> zekAtreides: what?
[23:52] <Elive_user55_en> I'm trying to run Steam on wine
[23:52] <Gralamin> deany: already tried it through the installer, but there is a third way.
[23:53] <Gralamin> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[23:53] <gigabites2> Elive_user55_en: And?
[23:53] <zekAtreides> mhall119: i cant open anything it is running too slow
[23:53] <deany> Gralamin, use clonezilla to backup your sys first.. so much easier
[23:53] <Elive_user55_en> and, i'm using "elive" Which is enlightenment
[23:53] <mhall119> zekAtreides: ctrl-alt-F2 to get to a console
[23:53] <Gralamin> clonezilla? I'll take a look.
[23:53] <deany> Gralamin, then go the ATI  9.3 way..
[23:53] <gigabites2> Elive_user55_en: Perhaps you should use the wine irc channel
[23:53] <Elive_user55_en> and it gives me this, an exit code 193
[23:53] <Elive_user55_en> ok thanks
[23:54] <zekAtreides> mhall119: ok just a sec
[23:54] <mhall119> ctrl-alt-F7 to get back
[23:54] <UKGent> I have yet to run any Windows App. (other than notepad) successfully on 'Wine'
[23:54] <mhall119> you can try running top from the console, to see if something is churning through all your CPU time
[23:54] <zekAtreides> mhall119: or should i boot in failsafe terminal?
[23:54] <deany> UKGent,  wine from ubuntu repo or wine repo
[23:54] <Guest12053> !troll > UKGent
[23:55] <deany> Gralamin, im using 9.3 fine.
[23:55] <mhall119> zekAtreides: try getting to a vitual terminal, that way you can see what's currently running
[23:55] <mhall119> run top, check %cpu and %wait
[23:55] <zekAtreides> mhall119: ctrl alt F2
[23:55] <mhall119> yeah
[23:55] <diablo> is there fedora channel?
[23:55] <UKGent> deany Wine from ubuntu - mind you, I am not that bothered because I use Linux most of the time and just use Windows to run 'Logos' which is a Libronix Application
[23:55] <zekAtreides> k
[23:55] <ikonia> diablo: yes
[23:56] <mhall119> diablo: several
[23:56] <Guest12053> !Ubuntu | diablo
[23:56] <Gnea> diablo: try #fedora or #redhat
[23:56] <zekAtreides> mhall119: just so you know i installed from live cd from boot
[23:57] <mhall119> with 128MB or ram?
[23:57] <diablo> thanks guys
[23:57] <zekAtreides> mhall119: yeah,  on startup i got something like "piix4 smbus  refusing to load could corrupt eeprom"
[23:58] <mhall119> I've never had the LiveCD installer finish successfully with less than 196MB
[23:58] <asfalt> Hi, I setup remote VNC login following this thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795036 however this does not present a physical login screen but an applet where I can choose a session. What I would like is to see the actual login screen or be able to resume a local user session remotely, how could I do this?
[23:59] <todd_r> I messed up my graphics drivers by trying to install a newer nvidia driver i downloaded, works ok with non propriety one, but when I try and go back to an NVIDIA one screen is messed up. Just tried installing with envy but ts just the same, anything else I can do?
[23:59] <zekAtreides> mhall119: yeah i was surprised, i went to ctrl alt F2 i log in as me right?
[23:59] <diablo> question i'm trying to install fedora ... i'm running ubuntu 8.10 and when i reboot i get a kernal panic notcyncing: attempted to kill init
[23:59] <diablo>  any one have this problem before ?
[23:59] <ikonia> diablo: how does that have anything to do with ubuntu