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* J_Litewski is bored00:00
UKGentLitewski   mess your Linux box up and then try to get out of it lol00:05
J_Litewskilol00:06
J_Litewskii don't have a livecd incase i screw it up00:06
UKGentLitewski I am operating off Wubi - so I just switch to windows and re-install Linux again. One of the few advantages of the arrangement00:07
UKGentI only keep Windows because I like to run some software named 'Logos' which is huge and has no Linux Version00:08
J_Litewskican i update my tool command language from 8.4 to 8.5?00:12
UKGentLitewski A voice crying in the wilderness !00:16
J_Litewski:?00:16
UKGentYour single unanswered question...00:17
J_Litewskiah00:17
J_Litewskiis it me or is Synaptic running kinda laggy?00:17
UKGentLitewski I have been OK so far but sometimes the mirror sites do seem to get very slow. It seems to depend on where the packages are stored00:19
J_Litewskitrue00:19
J_Litewskibut the program itself is kinda laggy00:20
UKGentLitewski     Would not that be to do with your local machine or network?00:22
J_Litewskiit was running just fine yesterday00:22
UKGentLitewski Are you on a Network?00:23
J_Litewskinope, at home00:23
J_Litewskiata 10mb router00:23
UKGentBroadband ?00:24
J_Litewskicable00:24
UKGentAre you likely to be sharing with a lot of people during some periods ? That can slow cable sometimes00:24
UKGentI am on DSL and it is pretty variable00:25
UKGentI know because I have monitored it00:25
J_Litewskiusually, the living room tv is on, but other than that, no00:25
UKGentYe - but they might share you with other people using the cable company00:26
J_Litewskitrue00:27
J_Litewskiit's also not a FiO backbone eighter00:27
UKGentNone of these companies are ever really honest about the actual average performance they can practically deliver00:27
J_Litewskii wish i was in texas, cable starts at 50mb/s there00:28
UKGentsome of the advertised speeds are fictitious00:28
UKGentI am on about 4mb/s in reality but they claim much higher00:29
J_LitewskiTexas is also a completely Fibre Optic backbone00:29
UKGentI have a Fibre Optic Cable right along the street outside - but I am on DSL lol00:29
J_LitewskiDSL is usually 25mb/s too00:29
UKGentI am on ADSL BT   which is not bad but they are planning to get it much faster in the future00:30
J_Litewskiyea, my friend Alex uses them for his servers00:31
J_Litewskiif fibre wasn't so expensive here, i would use it00:32
J_LitewskiFiOTV is usually around $100/mo00:32
UKGentIt is fine for my purpose's - I am not really into downloading a lot of video or anything like that. I use the 'Downloademal' Firefox Extension, which accelerates an software downloads by quite a bit.00:32
J_Litewskinice00:33
UKGentsorry 'Download them all'00:33
unluckyuseryeah DTa is awesome00:33
unluckyuseralso check out flashgot if dta doesn't suit you00:33
UKGentunluckyuser  I will check it out - thanks00:34
J_Litewskidoes Thunar have an FTP browser?00:34
UKGentLitewski - I was going to ask that earlier - could'nt see one. Ended up downloading gFtp00:35
UKGentWhich is a good 'stand alone' application00:35
unluckyusergftp crashes on me sometimes, filezilla is a little more reliable00:35
J_Litewskii was just wondering, if it doesn't, i'm going to register a blueprint for it00:35
J_Litewskisince that would be a nice feature for thunar00:36
UKGentLitewski - on ubuntu you can just choose 'connect with remote server' and it hooks the remote site into the file system00:37
UKGentI wonder if you could not just type the ftp address into the address bar?00:38
UKGentLike Windows00:38
UKGentbut I don't know how secure that is00:38
J_Litewskiidk, you could try00:38
UKGentpeople forget that you can do that - I used to do it on windows00:39
J_Litewskiheh00:39
J_Litewskito bad explorer is so buggy and uses IE00:39
UKGentyou just put ftp instead of http on the address bar00:40
UKGentI hate IE and not just out of prejudice - I find it SO SLOW00:40
J_Litewskiit is!00:40
J_Litewskiand CSS in it looks like crap too00:41
J_Litewskiwhats a good ftp site to try and connect to?00:41
UKGentLitewski I am trying to think of one with anonymous ftp - just to test but I can't think of one00:42
UKGentI know my own personal site but there is no way I am going to discuss that on here  lol00:42
UKGentI will try it and see though ...00:43
J_Litewskinope, Thunar doesn't support ftp00:43
UKGentbut you might be able to do it from Firefox00:44
J_Litewskiyou can00:44
UKGentand in any case - firefox has an ftp extension which is pretty good - although I am not using it00:44
J_Litewskiit's good00:45
geniifireftp00:45
UKGentgenii ye - I have used it in the past - I like Firefox anyway00:46
geniiMe too00:46
UKGentI tend to do all the fancy stuff via Firefox Extensions and leave Xfce as minimal as possible. I don't like to 'bloat out' the Desktop or OS00:47
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J_Litewskime too UKGent, the more one program can do, the better00:50
UKGentLitewski Agreed, you can end up 'bloating out' Firefox but at least then, your system only runs slow from that Browser and you can always 'thin out' your extensions. Whereas , if you load too many packages which increase the capability of the Desktop, you can end up with Linux running slow as a whole.00:52
UKGentthat is the main reason I have switched from ununtu to xubuntu00:52
J_Litewskiright00:54
J_Litewskii'm weeding out packages that i don't use00:55
UKGentLitewski don't believe a word I say because I am a rank beginner who just 'follows his nose' - I am probably talking nonsense most of the time, without TheSheep and people like that to guide me !  lol00:56
UKGentLitewski - Good idea - and you can run that routine from BASH which cleans things up automatically - that seems useful00:57
UKGentLitewski Did you say that you are thinking of putting a suggestion forward for 'Thunar' ?00:58
J_Litewskiyea, for a FTP plugin02:04
J_Litewskijust switching to higher versions of some packages (like lct8.4 to 8.5), i got rid of 4 or 5 files that wern't needed02:05
J_Litewskiand I don't need fileroller, because squeeze works just as well02:05
UKGentLitewski Good idea. It should be made to be completely 'seamless' and treat the remote site as an integral part of Thunar        Yes, I did a similar thing earlier and if you install new applications from the Terminal, it prompts you as to how many redundant packages you can remove.02:06
J_Litewskii already weeded the redundant packages, now it's just removing stuff i don't need02:09
UKGentit just does it automatically - if you tell it to.  No doubt about it, 'housekeeping' can be a boring subject but it keeps your system 'lean & mean' !02:13
J_Litewskitrue02:14
UKGentJust reviewing my 'delicious' bookmarks - my 'tag cloud' is getting quite impressive - I will be as big as Yahoo soon !02:15
J_Litewskinice02:18
J_Litewskiit seems the longer synaptic is open, the slower it gets02:19
J_Litewskii'm going to check launchpad to see if this is a bug02:21
UKGentI tend to be careful not to run too many (if any) apps. in the background, when conducting 'Synaptic' operations.  It gets upset if it gets interrupted...       Good idea !02:21
J_Litewskii usually run firefox and pidgin while in synaptic02:22
J_Litewskinever gave me a problem before02:22
UKGentI am careful about Firefox because I have so many things loaded onto it and usually all running at the same time lol    Well, it depends on how capable each individual system is , I suppose. I do not have a lot of RAM to play with.02:23
UKGentLitewski - I will run Synaptic and see how it seems from this end  ...02:24
GreedyBso I'm a bit confused.. something happened with my panel and I lost my volume control and I'm unable to add it through the add panel screen.. how can I reset it back to default so I can rebuild it?02:31
n2diyGreedyB, I'm having the same problem, have you found a fix?03:19
gorgutn2diy, I had a similar problem. I had to go to XFCE menu > settings > settings manager > sound and choose the device other than default. That allowed me to add the volume control back to my panel03:25
n2diygorgut: I went to apps-settings-sound, and didn't see any options?04:05
gorgutn2diy, in your settings manager.04:37
n2diygorgut: I went to apps-settings-settings manager-sound, and didn't see any options?04:58
gorgutn2diy, i don't understand where you're going...? apps?05:01
n2diygorgut: the applications menu on my panel.05:01
gorgutn2diy, ohh. ok... lol. i took the label off mine.. forgot it used to say applications05:02
gorgutn2diy, when you click on sound, there should be a drop down menu that lets you choose the device.05:04
n2diygorgut: ah, ok, so was settings manager-sound the place I was suppored to be? The only options there where to select inputs and outputs, nothing related to displaying the icon.05:04
gorgutn2diy, yeah, all I had to do was choose the device other than "default", then I could go back to the panel and add the volume thingy05:06
n2diygorgut: ok, I got it, you have to drag the icon from the panel-add page, to the panel, selecting it, and clicking on the add button doesn't do it.05:08
Grant-Awhat is the command to open the terminal in XFCE?06:52
CloseYetFarI think its xfce-terminal06:54
CloseYetFarI think its xfce4-terminal06:54
CloseYetFardo xfce and hit tab06:54
Grant-Aah, thanks :)06:55
CloseYetFarnp06:55
freegoxD07:14
sdf2hi09:46
sdf2what is the name of the xfce taskmanager?09:46
KangaroooHello! I want the fastest stable linux sistem so i installed Xubuntu and i got everything just like i need exept in Thunar i cant get Network Places! I need to connect to my other computer shared folders and also to this computers windows- this comp is dual boot Xubuntu/Windows11:05
KangaroooHow Can i get Thunnar to connect to Network places? Cant find it on google11:05
CloseYetFarI think its xfsamba411:10
CloseYetFarI know Thunar can not do it all by its self11:12
Kangaroooare Xubuntu developers here?11:25
knomeKangarooo, #xubuntu-devel, but free to ask here also11:26
Kangaroooif yes then please make in next version or in update possible to connect to network places and mount other drives..11:26
knomein jaunty there is gigolo11:26
knomei personally use ssh/*fs which is already in intrepid, but might be a bit harder to set up11:27
KangaroooGigolo is name for programm replace Thunnar?11:27
knomeno.11:27
knomethunar won't be replaced.11:28
Kangarooocant find gigolo in synaptic11:34
knomeKangarooo, in jaunty?11:43
KangaroooXubuntu 8.10 i dont know special names..11:44
knome8.10 is intrepid. gigolo is not in intrepid.11:45
knomejaunty is release in about a month11:45
knome+d11:45
Kangarooo8.10 name is jaunty?11:45
Slonkie8.10's name is intrepid11:46
Kangaroooou and whats jaunty?11:46
knome9.04 is jaunty11:47
Kangarooosoon will be somekind new 9.04 beta ubuntu so maybe also xubuntu 9.04 will be11:47
Kangaroooou ok i yesterday donwloaded xubuntu 8.1011:48
knomeKangarooo, yes, there is already xubuntu jaunty (9.04) beta11:48
knomeKangarooo, you will get a notification to updating to jaunty once it's released11:48
Kangarooo25 or 26 days to ubuntu releases11:48
knome24th of April.11:49
Kangaroooi beter not use beta :) since its a long way to put all programms for me11:49
Kangaroooill update on 24th april xubuntu on notification11:50
Kangarooohttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131     ow to: Xubuntu - Thunar Native Windows Network Browsing11:55
Kangarooofound something :)11:55
knomeyes, there is ways to browse windows networks with xubuntu11:55
knomebut they are more or less not user friendly11:56
Kangaroooou so you know this thread? so gigolo is best way? is it like plugin for thunar?12:10
knomegigolo - frontend to manage connections to remote filesystems using GIO/GVFS12:22
knomenot exactly a plugin. just a program which handles those mounts12:22
SlonkieAnyone in here experienced in using pyNeighborhood ?12:24
Kangaroooxubuntu 9.04 will have xfce 4.6?12:44
Kangarooohttp://www.xfce.org/about/tour12:44
vtrtHi question how to run blueman?12:50
vtrti mean what is the command from console?12:50
slow-motionhi13:06
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* elfgoh looks for signs of life13:35
* knome farts13:51
* elfgoh covers nose13:55
knomedo you need more signs of life or maybe some support?13:56
elfgohknome: I don;t need those. Juz taking a break from the hustle and hustle of #ubuntu13:56
knome:)13:57
knomeright13:57
* knome orders a sof for elfgoh 13:57
knome*sofa13:57
* elfgoh takes a seat and thanks knome13:58
_Pete_!vnc13:59
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX13:59
knome_Pete_, you can also search ubottu with /query14:00
_Pete_thanks for the info14:00
knomenp14:00
_Pete_I am still willing to help ubuntus14:01
_Pete_still swithched to debian14:02
_Pete_after being furstrated "it doesnt work"14:02
knomewhat is not working?14:05
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sofiashi everyone16:05
charlie-tca!hi | sofias16:05
ubottusofias: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!16:05
sofiasi have a problem with fullscreen-3D-games16:05
charlie-tca!question16:06
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:06
sofiasit's just pixel juice so i cannot even exit fullscreen16:07
sofiasi have an ati card, xubuntu 8.10 and the fglrx drivers16:08
sofiasand a dualcore athlon 6416:10
Salix_Hello! I customised my Xfce hotkeys. (E.g. Super-I is the IRC client.) But checking the list of hotkeys I see that only the Default version is available. Is it possible that system updates erased my set? :-(17:06
cody-somervilleSalix_, did you update recently?17:09
Salix_cody-somerville: it's 8.04 updated with system updates only17:14
cody-somervilleI can't imagine an update to 8.04 causing that17:14
Salix_cody-somerville: that's a good news :-)17:15
Salix_cody-somerville: is there a way to make my customised set reappear?17:15
Salix_(It does exist as the hokeys work. It's just that the set does not appear under the default one in settings.)17:16
cody-somervilleYou probably created a new set17:17
cody-somervilleOr you're looking at the window manager shortcuts and not the keyboard shortcuts17:17
KangaroooOk So now im going to install fastest way Xubuntu 9.04 beta using usb Wifi Using Mini.iso ubuntu 8.10 in #Ubuntu17:19
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KangaroooOk So now im going to install fastest way Xubuntu 9.04 beta using usb Wifi Using Mini.iso ubuntu 8.10 in #Ubuntu+117:21
ruadhI'm having problems getting sound to work in xubuntu. Can anyone help?17:30
vinnl!sound17:30
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP317:30
ruadhthanks17:34
Salix_cody-somerville: you were right... I checked the wm instead of keyboard shortcuts. {:-.17:35
Salix_cody-somerville: thanks! :)17:35
BigMoopiesIs it possible to turn num lock on as soon as you sign in?17:45
BigMoopieslogin17:45
ubottuError: You are not identified17:45
BigMoopiesLOL17:45
cody-somervillelol17:48
cody-somervilleBigMoopies, yes, its possible.17:48
cody-somerville!numlock17:48
ubottuTo enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock17:48
BigMoopiesOK, I suppose I should give it a try17:53
BigMoopiesWorked like a charm.17:56
BigMoopiesI'm still debating if it will be worth getting Jaunty from hardy?  I'm thinking about just waiting on the next LTS17:57
cody-somervilleBigMoopies, Jaunty boots quite a bit faster :)18:00
BigMoopiescody-somerville, Yeah but I got Hardy working .18:00
BigMoopiescody-somerville, and I don't wanna screw nothing up.18:00
* cody-somerville nods.18:01
cody-somervilleUnderstandable18:01
BigMoopiesIntrepid was a disaster with my NIC18:01
BigMoopiesAnother thing, I have an external hard drive that's acting funny.  It acts like it's being unplugged/replugged in.. and it pops up the files in a folder automatically when it's re detected18:06
BigMoopiesIs it possible for it to stop that ? like in GNOME it asked if I wanted to run it18:06
cody-somervilleWhat does dmesg say when thats happening?18:10
BigMoopies[161053.457756] Buffer I/O error on device sdd1, logical block 78643318:16
BigMoopiesover and over18:16
BigMoopiesLooks like it's going bad on me18:16
BigMoopiesis it possible to format it with NTFS or something in Xubuntu ?18:17
BigMoopiesor how should I go about it18:18
vinnlI think Gparted allows you to do that18:18
BigMoopiesI guess the idea would be to format and hope it stops messing around ?18:18
BigMoopiesor any other ideas?18:19
J_Litewskiwhere do i find crash reports? xfce-mixer-plugin crashed again while shutting down18:21
cody-somervilleJ_Litewski, /var/crash/18:30
cody-somervilleJ_Litewski, I assume you're using Jaunty?18:30
J_Litewskiyep18:30
cody-somervilleJ_Litewski, The issue is known, lots of bug reports filed already18:31
cody-somervilleJ_Litewski, did you just want to report it or did you want to try and fix it? :)18:31
J_Litewskii know, it's insaine18:31
J_Litewskiif i knew what was wrong, i could try and fix it18:31
* J_Litewski is still kinda new at C18:31
cody-somerville:)18:32
cody-somervilleThe issue is that xfce4-mixer attempts to free a NULL pointer18:32
cody-somerville(IIRC)18:32
J_Litewskispeaking of that, does your synaptic run slow?18:32
cody-somervilleI don't generally run synaptics18:33
J_Litewskiapt-get i take it then18:33
cody-somervillethat or add/remove18:33
J_Litewskii've been using that until i can figure out what's slowing down synaptics18:33
_lokko_please.. my xubuntu have problens..18:36
_lokko_i load xubuntu live18:36
_lokko_and.. i need executes the install for the pendrive18:36
_lokko_i have the xubuntu installer in my usb pendrive18:36
_lokko_how to execut it ?18:37
vinnlHow did you put it on your pendrive?18:37
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_lokko_vinnl all content of cd..18:41
_lokko_casper.. isolinux..18:42
_lokko_sorry for my english18:42
vinnlDo you also have a LiveCD?18:42
_lokko_vinnl i load the xubuntu by liveCD.. but.. my cd have problens.. when.. i copy the folders of ISO cd.. for my usb pendrive18:43
_lokko_live cd load the xubuntu.. but not install18:43
vinnlWhich version is the LiveCD?18:43
_lokko_9.04 beta18:43
vinnlRight... You might want to check in the menu, Applications->System->Startup Disk Creator18:44
_lokko_ok.. moment18:45
cody-somervilleYea18:49
cody-somervillecopying the files isn't going to work18:49
_lokko_not exists the option in menu18:51
vinnlNothing that relates to creating startup disks? Under System18:52
cody-somervilleIt might be called "USB Startup Disk Creator".18:52
_lokko_no.. Synaptic.. Install in computer,, partition editor..18:53
_lokko_xubuntu is fast to run applications thin-client based ?18:54
vinnlWell, it's dinner time here, the only thing I can do is point you to a guide I wrote on this earlier18:54
vinnlHere, see this: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/ubuntu-from-your-flash-drive-easier-than-ever-before/18:54
vinnlAnd bye :)18:54
_lokko_ok.. thank's18:54
_lokko_for your patience hehe18:54
vinnlnp ;-)18:55
J_Litewskithis is going to be interesting...19:03
J_Litewskinow, cody-somerville, a NULL pointer is something like g_free(function->class), correct?19:18
cody-somervilleJ_Litewski, something like that, yea.19:18
J_Litewskikk, i think i found it then19:19
cody-somervilleJ_Litewski, Indeed. I found it too. However, the question is... how does it become NULL?19:19
J_Litewskigood point19:19
cody-somervilleSomewhere, the string containing the name of the mixer track selected is being set to NULL.19:20
J_Litewskihmm19:21
J_Litewskii'm just amazed that there really isn't any Null checking19:23
* cody-somerville nods.19:23
J_Litewskiline 135, mixer_plugin->track_label = NULL;19:25
J_Litewskiif that doesn't change, wouldn't that cause the null problem?19:25
J_Litewskior if, when the mixer is setting the track, it instead sets Null?19:28
LinusTorvaldsis it possible to run Xubuntu on a 400MHz, 64MB RAM toshiba tecra8000?19:44
J_LitewskiLinusTorvalds: I don't think so, I believe the graphical install requires 198MB of ram, but i may be wrong19:46
LinusTorvaldscan't i install with the alternate?19:46
J_Litewskii think that uses 128mb of ram19:47
J_Litewskiyou can always try19:47
LinusTorvaldsi will try19:48
J_LitewskiTheSheep, you there?19:48
J_Litewski!install19:49
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation.  Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - see also !automate19:49
J_Litewski!automate19:49
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning19:49
J_LitewskiLinusTorvalds, it seems you can install19:51
LinusTorvaldsyes it seems indeed19:51
LinusTorvaldsi'll try19:51
J_Litewskitell us how it goes!19:51
LinusTorvaldsi'll let you know19:52
LinusTorvaldsit says the cd is corrupt :(19:55
LinusTorvaldsburning a new one...19:55
LinusTorvaldswhat burning speed should i choose? 8x?19:55
J_Litewski4x to be safe19:55
LinusTorvaldsok, 4x then19:56
J_Litewski8x works if you have a high end cd burner19:56
LinusTorvaldswell, i don't want to burn again, so i've chosen 4x19:57
J_Litewskiright19:57
slow-motionbye19:58
LinusTorvaldsstill 20 minutes to go.....................................................................................19:59
LinusTorvaldsstopped the burning process, i just discovered i already had a hardy heron cd :)20:01
J_Litewskinice20:02
LinusTorvaldsit's booting20:02
LinusTorvaldsgoing well so far, selected lang. and keyboard20:04
owen1I got an annoying popup whenever i login that tells me "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds..." when i view details (~/.xsession-errors) i see stuff like this: "/usr/bin/xmodmap:  unable to open file '/usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap' for reading"20:04
owen1and this: "** (xfce-mcs-manager:5974): WARNING **: display_plugin: Unable to configure display resolution"20:05
LinusTorvaldsit doesn't get any further than 'starting up the partitioner'20:08
J_Litewskiis it the alteritive install cd?20:09
LinusTorvaldsyes it is20:09
J_Litewskihmm20:09
LinusTorvaldsmaybe xubuntu is too intensive for the hardware?20:12
LinusTorvaldsshould i try fluxbuntu20:13
LinusTorvaldsi'll try tomorrow again, thanks for your help, goodbye!20:13
xiqhello, how can i make the startbar appear again?20:33
J_Litewskigood question xiq20:34
J_Litewskilets see20:34
xiqok20:35
J_Litewskiif i could remember the shortcut to run...20:36
J_Litewskihmmm20:39
J_Litewskixiq alt+ctrl+F4 and use command xfce4-panel -c20:41
J_Litewskidamnit, didn't work20:44
xiqxiqok its me again. i mean "panel" not taskbar20:44
J_Litewskialt+F2 to get to the Run dialog, then xfce4-panel -c20:45
xiqxiqthx20:46
xiqxiqwhy -c?20:46
J_Litewski-c opens the customization window20:46
xiqxiqoh ok20:46
xiqxiqthx goodbye20:46
J_Litewskibrb20:52
MoodHelp! I've had no problems with my monitor/video for over a year, then today when i looked at my computer screen, I have these horrible horizontal streaks and shadows. It looks like a frequency issue, but I'm already operating at 75 Hz like I always did. I've confirmed my monitor is not the issue. I'm using a GeForce2 AGP card. Any ideas?20:52
J_Litewskiah, there it is20:54
J_Litewskii lost my text bar for a sec20:54
jarnosMood: try different modes by xrandr20:56
J_Litewskido i need apt-build?21:36
Moodis there a temperature monitor for xubuntu out of the box? or do i need to install something like xfce4-sensors?22:12
J_Litewskijust a sec Mood22:13
Moodxubuntu 8.1022:13
Moodi'm looking for small footprint22:14
J_Litewskii don't think xubuntu has one out of the box, but there is one22:15
CppIsWeirdI have a box that keeps getting stuck randomly on "Starting Basic Networking..." either it will sit there FOREVER (waited days) or it will boot right through. The success of booting has gotten lower and lower to non-existant. What can I do to figure out what this problem is?22:17
vinnlCppIsWeird, a wireless connection that can't connect?22:18
CppIsWeirdno22:19
TheSheepsee the logs for the failed boots22:20
TheSheepthey are in /var/log22:20
TheSheepthe ones from previous boot are called .0, the ones from the one before .1 etc.22:21
CppIsWeirdkk22:22
CppIsWeirdwell... im thinking hardware issues seeings as how when i reboot now i get a blank screen22:22
TheSheepCppIsWeird: either that, or hardware compatibility issues22:24
TheSheepCppIsWeird: the logs should give some clue22:25
zekAtreidesi installed xubuntu 8.10 on an IBM thinkpad A20m it installed fine and at the login window the mouse cursor moves fluently and for a short time after i log in it moves fluently then it starts lagging really badly,  ideas?22:41
zekAtreidesis this the wrong place to ask xubuntu questions?22:43
afallenhopeumm where the chan for the beta sorry22:46
zekAtreidesi installed xubuntu 8.10 on an IBM thinkpad A20m it installed fine and at the login window the mouse cursor moves fluently and for a short time after i log in it moves fluently then it starts lagging really badly,  ideas?22:47
knomeafallenhope, #ubuntu+122:53
afallenhopety knome22:54
knomezekAtreides, this is the right place but please do not flood.22:57
knome!question | zekAtreides22:57
ubottuzekAtreides: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:57
knome(last line especially)22:57
zekAtreidessorry22:58
knomenp22:58
Digital_PioneerHi. I just can't help but wonder, how is Xubuntu supposed to be pronounced?23:00
knomeDigital_Pioneer, there's been a thread of that in the Xubuntu users list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-users/2009-February/thread.html (messages 12-16 counting from top)23:06
Digital_Pioneerknome: Zoobuntu, cool, thanks. :)23:07
knomenp.23:08
J_LitewskiDigital: Ex-u-bu-nu23:09
pleia2J_Litewski: maybe that's how you say it :)23:10
J_Litewskiyea23:10
J_Litewskiit's easier for me to say it that way23:10
zekso any ideas on the cursor lagging?23:11
zekAtreidesthis might be a stupid question but is dsl debian based?23:34
CloseYetFarI believe so23:34
zekAtreidesok23:35
zekAtreidesthanks23:35
CloseYetFaryup23:35
zekAtreidesis xubuntu 8.10 more bloated than the other versions?23:36
CloseYetFaryea but not enough that you will notice a difference23:56
CloseYetFarif you really want a truely minimal system I would look into debian or gentoo23:57

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