[00:38] <josh-l> can anyone tell me where i can find debs for ubuntu kernel 2.6.29 please
[02:59] <josh-l> wondering is there anything special I need to do when installing restricted extras? it seems to install a lot of lib32s and other 32 stuff
[03:01] <kb9vqf> josh-l: AFAIK the 32 bit stuff is present to allow restricted 32-bit-only applications (Flash, etc.) to run on a 64-bit system
[03:01] <josh-l> kb9vqf: what if i'm using flash x86-64 then
[03:02] <kb9vqf> josh-l: Another is Sun Java
[03:02] <vorian> flash, java, msfonts, etc
[03:02] <josh-l> is that stuff going to slow anything down trying to use 32 bit stuff?
[03:02] <vorian> no
[03:02] <josh-l> there is also java 64bit now
[03:02] <josh-l> ok cool
[03:02] <josh-l> can anyone remind me how to install something without recommended using apt-get pls? --no-recomended or something
[03:13] <JontheEchidna> josh-l: --no-install-recommends
[03:13] <josh-l> thanks JontheEchidna
[03:39] <claydoh> more nice reviews : http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=118096
[03:40] <claydoh> err http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/03/10-essential-applications-included-in.html
[06:16] <DaSkreech> jjesse: ping
[10:20] <Riddell> whee
[10:50]  * jussi01 waves to Riddell
[10:56] <a|wen> hi Riddell!
[10:56]  * a|wen waves to jussi01
[10:58]  * jussi01 waves back
[11:19] <Lure> Riddell: hi - do you have time to upload digikam from before beta-freeze?
[11:19]  * Lure not sure if you got it last time
[11:37] <Riddell> Lure: sorry, will get onto digikam shortly
[11:59] <Riddell> ~twitter update SNCF doing their very best to make sure I can't buy train tickets
[12:00] <kubotu> status updated
[12:57] <Riddell> Lure: uploaded, sorry for the delay
[13:17] <agateau_> Riddell: SNCF? Does this mean you are going to be at SLOS?
[13:18] <Riddell> agateau_: no was trying to book a train to UDS, failed miserably though
[13:18] <agateau> Riddell: mmm you do not go by plane?
[13:19] <Riddell> well I will now but I was trying not to destroy the planet more than I have to
[13:19] <agateau> oh I see
[13:19] <Riddell> but their website is broken, it's even broken for the staff when you phone them up
[13:19] <agateau> that would have been a long trip, though
[13:20] <Riddell> worth it if I don't feel guilty when half of England is under water
[13:21] <agateau> you're right
[13:21] <Riddell> ~twitter update I hope Nicolas Sarcozy privatises SNCF
[13:22] <kubotu> status updated
[13:22] <Riddell> that's how grumpy I am ^^
[13:22] <agateau> (says the guy who is considering bringing is family by plane for weekend between allhands and uds)
[13:22] <agateau> Riddell: not that privatising railway companies did any good to GB
[13:22] <agateau> :)
[13:23] <Riddell> at least I /can/ book tickets online here
[13:24] <agateau> hehe
[13:26] <agateau> Riddell: I found the comic applet useless for me without a one-line patch, can it go for Jaunty (it's hardly essential)?
[13:26] <Riddell> agateau: working comic applet is very important!
[13:26] <agateau> :)
[13:27] <agateau> Riddell: does it work well for you? for me the "Configure" button does not want to go away
[13:27] <agateau> without the patch (picked from trunk)
[13:28] <Riddell> agateau: yep, can't get it to do very much here
[13:28] <Riddell> agateau: but check if the patch is in 4.2.2, we're going to upload that shortly
[13:28] <agateau> just checked: it is
[13:28] <agateau> Riddell: jaunty will come with 4.2.2?
[13:30] <Riddell> agateau: yes, want to test the packages?
[13:31] <agateau> Yes, would be interesting
[13:31] <agateau> (and avoid patching obsolete code :D)
[13:33] <agateau> Riddell: so i am a Kubuntu-ninja? do i need to go shop for ninja gear now?
[13:46] <Nightrose> otherwise you wouldn't be a good ninja would you? ;-)
[13:56] <agateau> Nightrose: :) let's hope they have my size
[13:56] <Nightrose> :D
[14:49] <seele> is there a beta test page?
[14:57] <jjesse> seele: on iso.qa.ubuntu.com there is a page for reporting results of the beta isos if that is what youare looking for?
[15:06] <seele> jjesse: ah yeah, i guess so
[15:06] <seele> thanks
[15:16] <stefanlsd> Hi guys, im trying to fix a FTBFS issue by using <includehints> in a .ui file and i'm getting Unexpected element includehints.
[15:21] <reisi> can anyone running latest Jaunty with Intel (UXA enabled) drivers confirm X leaking 50-100MB memory per ~6h?
[15:22] <freinhard> reisi: ack, got a memory leak here to
[15:22] <freinhard> reisi: i think that's already reported at freedesktop.org
[15:23] <reisi> freinhard: great, no need to dup it then!
[15:25] <freinhard> reisi: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20766#1 maybe you'd like to reply to this comment.
[15:29] <reisi> freinhard: i'll do that.. here I was thinking I had already regged to every possible bugzilla installation on the planet but again found a new one :)
[15:29] <Riddell> stefanlsd: I've not used those but can you add them from Designer?  presumably it'll be better at getting the XML right
[15:30] <stefanlsd> Riddell: thanks. I dont have designer, thought it may just be easier to add it to the xml.
[15:31] <freinhard> reisi: freedesktop.org should install the openID plugin for bugzilla, but i guess the're in lack of manpower
[15:31] <stefanlsd> Riddell: Just installed it though, let me try :)
[15:35] <stefanlsd> Riddell: Ok. includehints doesnt exist anymore - it now looks like  <includes>  <include location="local">volumeslider.h</include>  </includes>
[15:44] <a|wen> freinhard and reisi: might be worth checking for a bug in LP and be sure to link against the upstream bug; so the fix can get included when available
[15:46] <freinhard> a|wen: i linked a b.f.o bug for UXA crashes, but can't remember that i did that for a memoryleak bug...
[15:47] <Tonio_> hi there :)
[15:47]  * Daskreech waves
[15:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: we have to ping glatzor for bug 272410
[15:47] <a|wen> freeflying: worth checking...
[15:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: It happens quite often it seems
[15:47] <freeflying> a|wen: what?
[15:47] <a|wen> Tonio_: you're a core-dev?
[15:48] <Tonio_> a|wen: sure, why ?
[15:48] <a|wen> freeflying: sry ... still need to get used to the quassel autocompletion ... meant freinhard
[15:48] <a|wen> Tonio_: some k3b fun, bug 339163
[15:48] <Daskreech> Yeah I don't like it either
[15:49] <Daskreech> konversation still has the nicest autocomplete in my view
[15:49] <Tonio_> a|wen: for k3b3 ?
[15:49] <a|wen> Tonio_: jup ... or are we going to replace it?
[15:49] <freeflying> allee: hehe
[15:49] <Tonio_> freeflying: I'd like to, but it sounds a bit late for this... Riddell ? ^^
[15:50] <Tonio_> freeflying: it works well for me, but still receives lots of commits everyday, so the app may not be considered finished...
[15:50] <Tonio_> a|wen: that was for you sorry
[15:50]  * a|wen thinks everyone is name confused today :)
[15:50] <Tonio_> a|wen: an SRU is probably better, once the kde4 k3b is considered stable...
[15:51] <a|wen> Tonio_: or at least a backport; we agree on that view ... then the upload is relevant :)
[15:52] <Tonio_> yup
[15:52] <Tonio_> about actions..... well we can add them, but that'll break the feature freeze, and also can fail to work, as the audiocd protocol of kde3 is not compatible with kde4
[15:53] <Tonio_> a|wen: I prefer not to try to bind a kde3 ioslaves to kde4 actions...
[15:53] <maco> woohoo! kwin stopped lying to me!
[15:53] <Riddell> Tonio_: no, we should e-mail glatzor about that and the no dist-upgrade issue
[15:53] <Daskreech> lie to me kwin lie to me!
[15:54] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: also we need to address KPackageKit not doing debconf at all, and making java installs fail
[15:54] <Riddell> Tonio_: that k3b patch looks good (without having tested it)
[15:54] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: well that's a much larger issue and we knew it would be a problem
[15:55] <Tonio_> Riddell: I can upload sure... Looking at the patch in details now...
[15:55] <JontheEchidna> ah, ok
[15:55] <a|wen> Tonio_: it simply fires up k3b ... but of course if k3b kde3 version is broken in that sense, we shouldn't
[15:55] <JontheEchidna> Other than search, KPackageKit seems to be inferior to Adept in every way :(
[15:55] <maco> Daskreech: if i told it to enable desktop effects, it would do so, then claim it couldn't, then disable them
[15:55] <Tonio_> a|wen: right, it won't use an ioslave as a URL... looks sane then
[15:56] <Tonio_> a|wen: uploading :)
[15:56] <maco> its now keeping them enabled since it obviously *can* do them
[15:56] <Daskreech> maco: maybe after years of being in the background it now wants attention?
[15:56] <Tonio_> a|wen: your debdiff is for kde4 ?
[15:57] <a|wen> Tonio_: no, for kde3
[15:57] <a|wen> Tonio_: but somebody messed up the versioning :P
[15:57] <Tonio_> a|wen: ho yeah "really kde3".... what a mess....
[15:58] <Tonio_> a|wen: I think I'm the responsible, since I uploaded the kde4 version in the archives instead of my ppa :)
[15:58] <Tonio_> hehe
[15:58] <a|wen> Tonio_: exactly, that was what the ":P" was for
[15:58] <Tonio_> a|wen: did trueg respond to you ? since kde4 is only on my ppa, we can wait for upstream to include it
[15:59] <a|wen> Tonio_: already included ... they got the same idea in parrallel with us it seems
[15:59] <Tonio_> a|wen: oki ;)
[16:08] <a|wen> Tonio_: jup, ripping does work in k3b kde3 :)
[16:12] <seele> how is ntp configured in kubuntu? it's a global system setting and not controlled by the kde module, correct?
[16:12] <Riddell> yes /etc/default/ntpdate
[16:15] <seele> it would be nice if the kde module could know what was ocnfigured there.. it is confusing if ntp is enabled but the option isnt checked
[16:15] <seele> jsut because kde isnt managing it
[16:15] <seele> WindowsUninstall is working on the configu ui at the moment
[16:15] <stefanlsd> Riddell: Im trying to fix a FTBFS problem with lastfm thats related to qt. Our bug is here,    https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tripod/+bug/337862 and gentoo has a patch.    http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=182330.  The gentoo patch is a patch to the build generated file, instead of the .ui file. Do you have any ideas?
[16:18] <Daskreech> moin jjesse
[16:18] <Riddell> stefanlsd: use whichever works :)
[16:19] <jjesse> moin
[16:19] <Daskreech> jjesse: sent you mail
[16:19] <Riddell> seele: I'm afraid I don't know the details of what the kde module changes and how that works (or not) with our ntp setup
[16:20] <Daskreech> Why would KDE need a different Time protocol setup ?
[16:20] <Daskreech> when you are logged into KDE you are in a different time zone than if you are not?
[16:20] <stefanlsd> Riddell: heh. im feeling like im at that point, although im not actually sure how you jump in there and modify stuff in the build directory (its qmake) and funny kde stuff :P
[16:21] <seele> Daskreech: it's a UI for the option rather than someone editing /etc/default/ntupdate
[16:21] <seele> although i dont know what it actually configures when you check it
[16:21] <Riddell> stefanlsd: in the first instance you can just apply the patch then build the package (with debuild) to check it works
[16:21] <Daskreech> ah but it doesn't know if ntpdate has been changed?
[16:21] <Daskreech> that's kinda bad
[16:21] <Riddell> stefanlsd: then you add the patch to the packages patch system which usually means putting it in debian/patches
[16:22] <seele> Daskreech: i'm trying to find out what it actually does
[16:22] <seele> hmm.. my developer ran away
[16:23] <Daskreech> seele: tried ignoring ntpdate and configuring everythign in KDE and see what it does?
[16:23] <seele> Daskreech: that's just guessing. WindowsUninstall is working on the module now and i'm trying to work out how to fix it
[16:23] <seele> he can look at the code and say "it does this when you check the box"
[16:24] <Daskreech> :-D
[16:24] <Daskreech> as long as he doesn't runaway
[16:25] <stefanlsd> Riddell: I guess im trying to understand the rules of a qmake system.  Normally i would be running ./configure and make somewhere, and i'll patch just after configure. In this case, i need to patch a .h file that is generated from a .ui file after running uic. So im not sure where in the rules I would do that...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/140780/  (rules file)
[16:26] <seele> what is in /etc/default/ntupdate? I dont seem to have one
[16:27] <Riddell> /etc/default/ntpupdate
[16:27] <Daskreech> p is important
[16:27] <Riddell> no
[16:27] <Riddell> /etc/default/ntpdate
[16:28] <seele> oh duh.. thanks
[16:33] <seele> hum.. that doesnt seem to be the place you turn ntp on and off though
[16:37] <Riddell> seele: that file also mentions /etc/ntp.conf, which doesn't exist
[16:39] <Riddell> mm, not sure what actually runs it though, can't see it in /etc/init.d/*
[16:40] <Riddell> seele: probably keybuk would know what actually happens
[16:40] <a|wen> seele / Riddell: as long as ntpdate-debian is installed it will run ntpdate using the options in /etc/default/ntpdate
[16:41] <Riddell> a|wen: and what runs that?
[16:41] <a|wen> i'm pretty sure it is added as an if-up.d rule, but let me check
[16:42] <a|wen> sorry, the package is actually called ntpdate ... ntpdate-debian is the name of the executable
[16:43] <Riddell> oh aye /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate
[16:43] <a|wen> jup
[16:43] <Riddell> and ntpdate-debian is a shell script to read in /etc/default/ntpdate and run ntpdate
[16:43] <a|wen> exactly
[16:44] <a|wen> Riddell: and the README.Debian of ntpdate says to install ntp if you have good network connection and need constant updates
[16:45] <Daskreech> jjesse: is the book intended for 9.04 or 8.04 ?
[16:56] <blizzz> konqui drives me crazy :(
[17:01]  * Daskreech plays some Fine Young Cannibals
[17:02] <jjesse> Daskreech: intended for 9.04 and yes i got your email
[17:02] <Daskreech> ah ok there are some places it speaks of 8.04 when I'm sure you mean 9.04 and some places where yuo say 9.04 where it sounds remarkably like 8.04 :-)
[17:06] <seele> a|wen: how do you disable it? remove the ntpdate file?
[17:07] <seele> a|wen: or does it simply run regardless if it is installed?
[17:07] <WindowsUninstall> hi *
[17:08]  * Daskreech dogpiles on WindowsUninstall
[17:08] <a|wen> seele: you mean, if you want it not to run at all, but still have the option to run it manually?
[17:08] <seele> a|wen: have the option to turn on and off the service
[17:09]  * Daskreech tries to think of a scenario not involving mushrooms where he doesn't want to know what time the rest of the world is in
[17:10] <a|wen> seele: if you remove the file /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate it will not run ... to turn it on you need to check that the package ntpdate is installed and that the /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate file is there again
[17:11] <Riddell> that doesn't sound great for coding a configuration tool
[17:11] <seele> yeah really
[17:11] <a|wen> my 5 grain of salt ... don't meddle with it
[17:12] <a|wen> seele: ntpdate is installed with priority important
[17:13] <WindowsUninstall> Riddell, uhm, anyway I don' think that hard coding configuration related things is a good idea
[17:13] <Riddell> WindowsUninstall: how else would it work?
[17:13] <WindowsUninstall> I think that we should have something like "configure-tool set ntp enable"
[17:14] <WindowsUninstall> so every distribution can put its own code in that tool
[17:14] <Riddell> could be part of the network-manager dbus API
[17:14] <Riddell> WindowsUninstall: did you work out what KDE tries to do at the moment?  have you looked at what gnome does, if anything?
[17:15]  * a|wen votes for removing that configuration options altogether
[17:15] <seele> Riddell: it runs ntpdate once and then forgets about it
[17:15] <seele> so it is more like a function button than service option
[17:16] <WindowsUninstall> Riddell, KDE now calls rdate or ntp
[17:17] <seele> if left as is, the checkbox needs to be removed because it isnt doing what the UI implies
[17:18] <WindowsUninstall> anyway that module may need to be updated
[17:18] <WindowsUninstall> it is 11 years old
[17:18] <WindowsUninstall> so we can improve it
[17:18] <WindowsUninstall> Riddell, I can't understand why it should be part of the network manager API
[17:21] <Riddell> WindowsUninstall: just a suggestion.  at the moment in ubuntu we have ntp run when the network interface is enabled so it could be done there
[17:21] <Riddell> WindowsUninstall: and to get distros to standardise on some sort of interface, n-m may be the best chance
[17:22] <WindowsUninstall> Riddell, honestly I don't love nm
[17:22] <WindowsUninstall> I've seen wicd working better than nm in some cases :P
[17:22] <Riddell> nobody does but it's what the distros use and offers a standard interface for desktop apps
[17:24] <WindowsUninstall> Riddell, we should try to introduce a generic tool that allows KDE/GNOME to tell distro what users want
[17:24] <WindowsUninstall> if we implement something  like config-tool
[17:24] <WindowsUninstall> every distro can implement it's own config-tool
[17:24] <WindowsUninstall> and that can be a good idea, I think
[17:25] <a|wen> isn't it kind of a left-over function from when you needed ntp run as a daemon to get things done ... it looks like most distros simply just updates the clock as a service out-of-the box
[17:32] <Riddell> WindowsUninstall: it's a good idea but I suspect you'll have trouble getting distros to actually do that
[17:32] <Riddell> which is why I suggest n-m since distros go out of their way to work with that anyway
[17:32] <WindowsUninstall> Riddell, give me a chance to talk with debian/gentoo/arch/mandriva people
[17:33] <Daskreech> fedora
[17:33] <seele> suse..
[17:33] <Riddell> suse
[17:33] <WindowsUninstall> do you know any fedora guy?
[17:33] <WindowsUninstall> any suse, guy?
[17:33] <Daskreech> Jimbo's fantastic distro 2009 edition
[17:33] <Riddell> well in KDE land, rdieter for fedora, wstephenson for suse
[17:34] <Riddell> but this goes beyond KDE land
[17:35] <WindowsUninstall> ok
[17:38] <seele> so what is the stop gap solution? remove the option from the kcm?
[17:38] <seele> because it really makes no sense at all
[17:39] <WindowsUninstall> seele, right now it's still good for lazy people
[17:39] <seele> WindowsUninstall: how? it doesn't do what it implies
[17:39] <seele> it doesnt control the service, it simply runs ntp once and that's it
[17:40] <WindowsUninstall> yes, in the worst case we can replace it with a
[17:40] <seele> if it stays, then it needs to be changed to a function button, because that is what it does
[17:40] <WindowsUninstall> "Update Date&Time" button
[17:40] <seele> ok
[17:41] <josh-l> hi
[17:44] <Daskreech> hi
[17:52] <nixternal> 22222222222222222222/wi18
[17:52] <nixternal> nice
[17:52]  * WindowsUninstall goes away for a couple of hours
[17:52] <nixternal> haha, nice nick ;)
[17:54] <Daskreech> Thanks
[17:55] <WindowsUninstall> anyway there is a small bug with the installer: rome is in a wrong timezone
[17:55] <WindowsUninstall> :P
[18:31] <josh-l> anyone use stasks for your panel? what do you think about expanding option? I like it, but wish it was somehow more intuitive... its a bit of a pain to get to windows when they expand
[18:35] <Daskreech> josh-l: slightly better question for #kde
[18:35] <Daskreech> not even sure if stasks is in the repo
[18:35] <josh-l> Daskreech: its not in comon repos, but there are repos with it
[18:35] <Daskreech> ok
[18:41] <ScottK> If it's not in our repo, it's pretty definitely off topic here.
[18:55] <Tonio_> Riddell: I saw your mail to glatzor, thanks for this (I would have send it toonight....)
[18:55] <Tonio_> Riddell: there is another one I'm testing right now about sun java and the licence agreement
[19:33] <josh-l> hey all
[19:33] <josh-l> anyone know where plasma widget files are located?
[19:38] <jrdnyquist> coooool: The NVIDIA 180.44 Linux driver officially adds support for several new graphics processors, fixes various OpenGL crashes (including the KDE 4.x Plasma problems)
[19:50] <smarter> hey, kpackagekit finally works here :]
[19:51] <blizzz> smarter: with licence   confirmations?
[19:51] <smarter> no idea
[19:54] <smarter> looks good, the error message when something 404 isn't necessary imho, or should be less scary at least :]
[19:56] <blizzz> i read a blog post once about funny error messages
[19:56] <smarter> and it'd be nice if it displayed download speed when downloading the package
[19:56] <smarter> oh, said something about being too slow and needing to fork
[19:56] <blizzz> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001238.html
[20:03] <WindowsUninstall> Riddell, http://system-tools-backends.freedesktop.org/
[20:10] <josh-l> anyone know why kompozer doesnt work ?
[20:11] <jussi01> anyone know if the new nvidia has been packaged yet?
[20:14] <ScottK> kompozer is not a KDE app, but uses some ancient version of mozilla seamonkey.
[20:42] <blizzz> how can i set webkitpart as default view for internet browsing in konqueror?
[20:51] <blizzz> found it
[20:52] <Daskreech> where?
[20:58] <blizzz> launch 'keditfiletype text/html' and set webkit to top (in embedded tab). You need webkitkde to be installed
[21:00] <Daskreech> Right
[21:00] <Daskreech> nice
[21:01] <blizzz> i can scroll now ;)
[21:03] <smarter> anyone feeling like packaging arora last release? :)
[21:04] <JontheEchidna> ooh, a new arora release?
[21:06] <JontheEchidna> it seems very featureful though
[21:06] <JontheEchidna> an FFe is probably a given this time around ;-)
[21:06] <blizzz> does it use kwallet now?
[21:08] <JontheEchidna> not that I can see
[21:08] <JontheEchidna> from the changelog
[21:08] <vital> kwallet is under the wiki in TODO under Extensions
[21:08] <vital> so no.
[21:08] <Daskreech> wait
[21:09] <Daskreech> it has extenstions?
[21:09] <vital> http://code.google.com/p/arora/wiki/TODO
[21:09] <vital> scroll down a bit, and it say 'extensions' dont know if anything is implemented
[21:10] <smarter> Daskreech: it's being worked on
[21:10] <smarter> probably won't be ready in the near future
[21:11]  * smarter is currently working on Arora KDE4 integration, and a few other stuff too, like konqueror-like searchengine keyword shortcut :)
[21:16] <Lure> Riddell: new language-support-translations-en tries to pull in bunch of gnome - is this known problem?
[21:17] <Lure> Riddell: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/140965/
[21:18] <Lure> Riddell: btw, thanks for digikam uploads
[22:27] <yuriy> got my sponsorship invitation to UDS :)
[22:32] <a|wen> cool yuriy
[22:32] <blizzz> yuriy: congrats!
[22:32] <blizzz> my rss icon/plugin in konqueror has vanished! :(
[22:33] <smarter> blizzz: install konqueror-plugin-akregator
[22:33] <smarter> which is not installed by default for some reasons
[22:33] <blizzz> smarter: is installed, i reinstalled it, too, with no effect
[22:33] <smarter> blizzz: make sure it's checked in the extension list?
[22:34] <smarter> (configure menu --> configure extensions...)
[22:34] <blizzz> it is not any longer in the list. some other plugins disappeared, too
[22:34] <smarter> O_o
[22:34] <blizzz> exactly
[22:36]  * ryanakca highfives yuriy, hope I'll see you there :)
[22:37] <yuriy> oh, are you going?
[22:38] <ryanakca> yuriy: I'm in the process of convincing my parents to let me go
[22:38] <blizzz> smarter: oho, it is bound to khtml
[22:38] <smarter> ryanakca: heh :p
[22:38]  * smarter would go if he didn't have school at the same time, like for every other UDS :/
[22:40]  * a|wen is really sad he can't go ... relocating from asia to europe at the same time doesn't really fit :/
[22:58] <blizzz> is it known, that x.org claims 90% cpu when a password dialog appears?
[23:11] <blizzz> JontheEchidna: ping
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> blizzz: pong
[23:12] <blizzz> JontheEchidna: bug 277011 has not have something to do with x.org, did it?
[23:12] <JontheEchidna> dunno
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> upstream said it was fixed, but they don't know how it was fixed
[23:13] <blizzz> cool ;) i have something similar, but x.org consumes the cpu (and not kwalletd) and it is on all password kdialogs
[23:14] <blizzz> i also found a bug on kde.org, but i am wondering if they have something in common
[23:33] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: could you sponsor bug 281138 please?
[23:45] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: ok
[23:53] <JontheEchidna> QuickAccess upstream seems to be dead, I am contemplating forking the codebase and releasing a culmination of bugfixes that have made their way into Kubuntu
[23:53] <vorian> do it
[23:53] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: where is it hosted upstream?
[23:54] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: up;loaded
[23:54] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: thanks
[23:54] <JontheEchidna> Seems to be only hosted here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/QuickAccess?content=84128
[23:56] <JontheEchidna> I could release a 0.7.2 and we could update to that and remove all of our patches
[23:57] <JontheEchidna> I could also add tooltip support, but that would pretty much be impossible to add to our packages now due to *freeze
[23:58] <JontheEchidna> whoa, neat: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Plasmaboard?content=101822
[23:58] <smarter> JontheEchidna: oh woh oh
[23:59] <JontheEchidna> heh, I thought you might be interested ;-)
[23:59]  * smarter has to look at that :p
[23:59] <astromme> What's the license for QuickAccess?
[23:59] <astromme> You could always host it in kde svn, or in launchpad