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jonahhi is anyone here familar with mac, linux and samba. basically i turned windows sharing on with my macbook, and now my linux box has full access, but worryingly there's no passwords to put in or authentication? is this safe. when i take my macbook to a coffee shop i don't want everyone accessing my stuff! hehe00:04
gkffcksjonah: are you using the same password and usernames on both machines? I don't know about the mac, but I know if you connect to samba from windows it will auto authenticate you if your using the same password and username, this might be similar to what's happening, I would suggest you try logging on as a different user and then see if you still arn't prompted for a password...00:09
jonahgkffcks: ah really, that's what it might be then, i don't have any other user accounts to test this out with though00:11
ubuntu_which distro do you all recommend?00:12
gkffcksjust make a new one on your ubuntu box and then log into it, it's easy, and you can delete it when your done, hope that helps....00:12
danborne-lappyAny one familiar with wubi here?00:13
ubuntu_i used wubi from the ubuntu live cd00:13
danborne-lappyI wanted to force certain parameters but I am not sure how to do it with the tool; it does not seem very linuxy00:15
doblejotasomeone can help me please? i cant set more than 640x480 in a viewsonic e40 monitor using kubuntu 8.10 and a video card nvidia 8500. Its some kind of incompatibility?00:15
ubuntu_yeah, it really isn't. i haven't attempted to force any myself00:15
bobosois there a way to print to a printer that is connected to a windows box?  both the windows box and the pc that i want to print to are on the same network.00:24
jonahdoes anyone know why i can't write to linux box through samba in finder in macosx, i don't have permissions it says but i can do it the other way onto mac from linux, is it a finder bug?00:25
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danborne-lappyboboso: yes, that should be simple via the printer wizard, youll need cups and samba installed and the printer on the windows box shared00:27
danborne-lappyjonah: I would assume it is because you have not given the proper permissions to the mac box00:27
danborne-lappyNow wtf is someone who actually knows wubi00:28
jonahdanborne-lappy: i don't think i've set any permissions though, how can i check? my username and passwords are same on both machines so i thought it'd just work??00:28
bobosodanborne-lappy: im useing kde 4.1 and i cant find the printer wizard could you help me out?00:30
danborne-lappyjonah: No, because they are different users. Try chmod -v the folder you would like to share on the linux box first to see what permissions are set for it. Then add the mac user00:30
danborne-lappyboboso: I am not sure, I do not use KUbutu and am not familiar with it.00:31
bobosoah ok ty00:31
danborne-lappyboboso: Try in KDE control centre ( I am not sure what it is called in English, configure your desktop or something like that maybe); I am not sure how KUbuntu deals with printerss buit it could be in there.00:32
jonahdanborne-lappy: haha yeah that works, if i right click my home dir and click the permissions so group and others can read/write i can write from mac, is this secure though to outside world or can anyone read/write my computer now?00:35
danborne-lappyjonah: Did you do it only for that mac user or did you 777 it?00:36
jonahdanborne-lappy: 777 i think, i don't know how to do it for mac user??00:37
jonahdanborne-lappy: i just right clicked it in dolphin00:37
Xeronok so hey guys sence i updated to 9.4 kubuntu i cant play verry many online streaming video and the ones i can play wont let me fulscreen untill i minimize the window with the webpage00:37
jonahdanborne-lappy: could you help me out securing it up a bit, i don't want to mess all my permissions up00:37
Xeronalso its glitchy in the backround once i fulscreen it can someone help me please!!!!!!!!!!!!!00:37
danborne-lappyjonah: If you 777ed it you will be unsecure, just manually add that user00:38
jonahdanborne-lappy: right ok, so if i right click in dolphin again and put owner to can view and modify, group to can view and others to can view, is that what it should be on?00:38
danborne-lappyOwner will make it so that only your user on the linux box can view and modify, you could make a group and add your mac box windows box or what not to it and then make it so that that gorup can modify and what not00:39
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jonahdanborne-lappy: but others was already set to can view and not to forbidden? is that right, i don't want everyone to be able to view my computer contents?00:41
danborne-lappyThan disable00:41
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jonahCan anyone please tell me what the default permissions should be set to in dolphin. i right clicked my home folder and changed them, should it be owner: can view & modify, group can view and others can view or is this not right? can anyone have a look at theirs for me and check please?00:46
danborne-lappyÔwner can view and modify, dude it is up to you00:49
Dragnslcrjonah- sounds about right to me00:50
jonahDragnslcr: ok thanks00:51
jonahanyone know how i add my macbook user to read and write my home folder but not everyone else?00:52
* Elone bored01:06
bobosoto be able to print on a windows box on the same network as my kubuntu box do i need to do anything other than share the print on the windows box?01:10
Eloneyou need samba i think01:12
Elone!samba01:12
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.01:12
Sonnentaeeverytime my screen saver kicks in my screen gets all garbled and I have to reboot, any ideas why?01:24
bobosoElone: right i have samba on my ubuntu box but do i need to install something on the windows box?01:26
emacspysonnentae: try using xscreensaver instead of kscreemsavers01:28
Eloneboboso, no if you setup correctly you should be able to use File & Printer Sharing the same way as any windows box01:30
bobosok guess i dont have something setup right then01:31
drisshi everyone01:51
drissi have a small problem01:54
KomiaPoikahi02:04
KomiaPoikaafter installing kde3 packages from launchpad for kubuntu 8.10, my packages are broken necaise python-kde3 cant install and apt-get -f wont fix it02:05
KomiaPoikai get error: http://www.pastebin.ca/137636802:06
KomiaPoikahow can i unblock my packages to install the missing ones?02:06
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KomiaPoikai cant deinstall python to let install this one cause i cant reset my packages02:07
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stepnemyeah, life is hard sometimes...02:12
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astrobearsomeone kick him02:12
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astrobearhow do you change the login and logout audio?02:12
stepnemsomething like system -> settings or similar02:12
stepnemi'm on Kubuntu, but I used to do in in Gnome too, just don't remember exactly02:13
amdwhat means jaunty?02:13
stepnemubuntu version name02:13
astrobearstepnem: yeah i've looked there, but i can't find it :\02:13
amdbut what is a jaunty?02:14
stepnemwell it's there I'm sure, :D02:14
stepnemmaybe preferences ...?02:14
astrobearit's in system notifications02:15
stepnemhttp://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=jaunty02:15
stepnemright, :)02:15
amd...02:15
amdnot pleased, what developers wanted to say with02:16
amdnot pleased, what developers wanted to say with JAUNTY JAKALOPE?02:17
amd???02:19
stepnemwell I've given up that kind of questions some time ago; but if you find out, do share the knowledge!02:19
stepnem:D02:19
amdhmmm02:19
amdfor example 8.10's was intrepid ibex02:20
amdbut WHY?02:20
amdwhat happened with the penguin?02:20
amd:)02:21
m_tadeu_how can I check if my microphone is working?02:21
stepnem...say something?02:21
m_tadeu_you mean the sound should be directed to the speakers? or do I need an app to hear something?02:22
amdkmix02:23
stepnemwell usually if you use microphone, it's not to hear yourself from the speakers, right?02:23
amdor dublu-click on speakers02:23
amdor install audacity02:24
amdcomprendre?02:26
m_tadeu_oh si :P trying audacity right now02:26
amdso is working?02:27
m_tadeu_nop02:29
epOff topic I guess: kaffine isn't playing an off the shelf DVD movie.  Is this a futile attempt due to some DRM issue or would it most likely be some other problem -- eg operator error02:29
alepotdo you have libdvdcss installed?02:29
epsurely02:30
epbut i'll check :)02:30
rizvanplease help with kwin headers02:30
rizvan-- Looking for kwinglobals.h - not found.02:30
rizvanWARNING: *** KWin headers not found02:30
m_tadeu_I'm using a usb mic02:32
alepotrizvan: what gives you this error? what are you trying to do?02:33
JontheEchidnarizvan: install kdebase-workspace-dev02:33
amdlsusb02:33
amdwhat says lsusb?02:34
rizvanthanks, installing kdebase-workspace-dev fixed the error, i was compiling domino kwin style02:34
alepotrizvan: apt-get build-dep <package> sorts dependencies mostly.02:35
rizvanthanks alepot, i'll save the command for future use :)02:35
m_tadeu_amd: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/140441/02:35
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GentooJohnnyIm having a problem reconfigureing kdm03:47
GentooJohnnywhat would be the easiest way to reconfigure it.03:47
sva_hi evereyoe.. i have a strange problem... i have a directory wich seams emtpy but isnt.. and i cant delete it (move it, copy it, change permissions.. anithing at all).. if i try to manipulate it outside de console in a file manger everything crushes.. and i cant build a collection in a music player03:55
MarfiHello, this has probably been asked several times...but how do I enable icons on the desktop? Putting K on a computer for a client03:59
stepnemMarfi: System Settings -> Desktop -> Behaviour -> Show icons on desktop04:02
Marfistepnem: Behavior isn't here04:03
stepnemoh well, KDE 3.5.10 here04:03
MarfiKDE4 here04:04
MarfiAnyone else know how to enable icons on KDE4?04:04
ufuk_kMarfi: what you mean by icons?04:05
ufuk_kopen add widgets dialog and add folder view to your desktop04:05
ufuk_kyou can add icons in it04:06
Marfiufuk_k: I want them to be "the traditional" way. The client will have enough of a learning curve as it is, and I don't want more resistance on him than he needs04:06
ufuk_kOk. do you have a folder view widget on your desktop now?04:07
Marfiufuk_k: yea, its on there04:07
Marfiufuk_k: I don't want to use the widget for it, is what I am getting at04:07
ufuk_kMarfi: enter into appearance settings on desktop04:08
ufuk_kin the Type dialog choose folder view, then the folder view bomces your desktop04:08
ufuk_k*becomes04:08
ufuk_kyou can add icons anywhere in your desktop after then04:09
Marfiufuk_k: Okay. I think he will be able to deal with this.04:09
Marfiufuk_k: To give you an idea about the guy...he is still using AOL04:09
ufuk_kI understand, but it is just a matter of time and patience.04:09
ufuk_kif he like it, he'll get used to it and learn quick04:10
Marfiufuk_k: That's the problem. It took him a ton of convincing to just use it04:10
ufuk_kMarfi: I think you better don't force him, if you do it too much, he will give up. Let him to use it for sometime.04:13
Marfiufuk_k: I'm gonna tell him that his "homework" is to sit on the computer for at least an hour a night. =)04:14
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puff_Hello. is any1 awake_04:27
puff_?04:27
stepnemsure, waiting for you, puff_04:29
puff_stepnem: )))04:30
puff_stepnem: I'm kind a noob, but still. I have some problems with network connection in 9.04.04:31
puff_stepnem: I create an acces point. but it just refuse to connect04:32
stepnemoh well, hm... I'm still using 8.0404:32
puff_Now i have 8.10. and everything is perfekt, but videocard. But in 9.04 i do not have network, but wideo working perfect. moment 2204:34
puff_stepnem: |04:34
stepnempuff_: what do you mean by 'create an access point' -- you are trying to connect or really administering an AP?04:35
puff_stepnem:  I'm using a USB_gsm modem. so i have to create acces point on right network.04:36
stepnemoh dear, I've got no experience with that...04:37
puff_Jeah...it isn't so nice to work with those things )))04:38
stepnemyou might try #ubuntu, there still seem to be some people around04:38
puff_ok, i wil try. thx04:38
puff_stepnem:04:38
stepnemgood luck!04:39
slerderHey guys. does anyone know how i can clear/reset the names, of network interface cards, eth0, eth1 etc? thanks04:41
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DaSkreechslerder: what do you want to do?04:44
artpoetryfictionI've got Plasma crashing... signal 11 (SIGSEGV)05:00
artpoetryfictionCan anyone refresh my memory as to the name and location of the video config file, and any plasma config file?05:01
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DaSkreechvideo config file would be /etc/Xii/xorg.conf05:06
DaSkreechplasma has two config files one for plasma and one for the things inside plasma05:06
DaSkreechX1105:07
DaSkreechnot xii05:07
artpoetryfictionDaSkreech: thanks I beat you to the xorg.conf file, but don't see anything there to suggest the problem, like I thougth there would be05:13
artpoetryfictionWhere are the plasma files locateda?05:13
DaSkreech~/.kde/share/config/05:16
DaSkreechpretty obviously named05:16
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artpoetryfictionAny idea how I can launch a terminal when I don't have a kicker plasmoid?05:20
p_quarlesartpoetryfiction: with krunner?05:21
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kerryhello05:22
DaSkreechartpoetryfiction: kicker? you mean a panel?05:22
DaSkreech!hi | kerry05:23
ubottukerry: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:23
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DaSkreechartpoetryfiction: If you have konqueror open press F405:23
artpoetryfictionI've got no desktop, because plasma is crashed. Is there a command key or some default way to open a terminal when I have no desktop?05:23
Guest69388is there any way i can create custom categories for the kde menu - like the categories that are listed in .desktop files, that tell the file where to appear in the app launcher05:24
DaSkreechYes the way you just said05:24
Guest69388i know i could just move the link in the menu editor but i'd like to try it this way instead05:24
Guest69388DaSkreech do you mean me? "yes the way you just said"05:26
DaSkreechyes05:26
Guest69388ok what i want to do, is create my own category, ie if i open blackbox.desktop, the categories listed there are games and logicgames - i'd like to create a new category 'LogicGamesPack', then create a directory with the same name under Games in the app launcher - and then every .desktop file i add the category of LogicGamesPack to will appear under that new directory05:29
Guest69388hope i make sense!05:29
DaSkreechYes but you have to rebuild the coca I think05:31
DaSkreechksyscocabuilder05:32
Guest69388ok i have no idea what that is, is it a complicated thing that someone who doesn't know what she's doing shouldn't be messing with?05:32
DaSkreechumm05:34
DaSkreechyes and no05:34
DaSkreechoverall it's complicated05:34
DaSkreechbut it's kinda like that apt-get system where you just need to know apt-get update05:34
DaSkreech#kde can give you some better guidance but be preapred for them to tell you just use kmenueditor05:34
Guest69388lol ok05:35
Guest69388well i'll google more info on ksyscocabuilder05:35
Guest69388thanks for your help :)05:36
Guest69388cheers05:36
DaSkreechGuest69388: look up the .desktop for the menu first05:36
artpoetryfictionI've got no desktop, because plasma is crashed. Is there a command key or some default way to open a terminal when I have no desktop?05:36
DaSkreechthat's wht you really want to learn about05:36
DaSkreechartpoetryfiction: couple of ways05:37
DaSkreechhow are you logged in here now?05:37
artpoetryfictionBy clicking on the submit bug link on the crash window, which launched my default (opera) browser05:38
artpoetryfictionX11 is running, just not plasma... which is the whole desktop in 4.205:38
martyr2k6halp!05:54
martyr2k6I am a n00b who needs help here.05:54
martyr2k6not to be annoying or something05:54
martyr2k6I have kubuntu intrepid ibex installed on one of my computers as the sole OS and I want to format the hard drive and install plain ol Ubuntu 8.10 in it's place... pm me if you can help!05:56
martyr2k6also, I only have ONE molex connector and it's powering my hard drive05:56
martyr2k6can anyone help?05:57
martyr2k6anyone?05:58
DragnslcrDo you really need to format the disk?06:01
martyr2k6well I dunno06:03
martyr2k6again I am a common vista user wanting to toy with ubuntu on one of my other computers06:04
martyr2k6so naturally when I see I have an os that I dont like, I look to format the hdd and start anew06:04
DragnslcrIf you just want to install Gnome, you can install the ubuntu-desktop package06:04
martyr2k6ok, where I do start?06:05
martyr2k6I am on the kde desktop06:05
DragnslcrThe only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the default desktop environment. Everything underneath is exactly the same06:05
martyr2k6ok, so when I power on the puter, it will boot Ubuntu instead of kubuntu?06:05
DragnslcrOpen up Adept, search for the ubuntu-desktop package06:05
DragnslcrIt's the same operating system06:06
martyr2k6sweet...06:06
DragnslcrWhen you log in, you'll have the choice between KDE and Gnome06:06
martyr2k6you see here is the problem I am having using kubuntu... my monitor is actually a 40 inch lcd tv06:06
martyr2k6and when I previously hooked up the computer (when I had both a hdd and odd) ubuntu ran great on the tv for some reason, and kubuntu says "no" to this idea06:07
DragnslcrThat is kind of weird06:08
martyr2k6yeah I know right06:08
DragnslcrNot sure why Gnome would work and KDE wouldn't06:08
martyr2k6yeah, even as a newbie and a windows die hard user, it doesn't make sense to even me06:09
* DaSkreech could think of a few reasons06:09
liberviscoqt4 can leave everyone eating its dust...06:09
DragnslcrHandling the video output should be X's job, which runs under both of them06:09
DaSkreechbut install ubuntu-desktop and you can have both06:09
liberviscobut the tragedy is that in order to stay consistent with other gtk apps it must be conservative :(06:09
martyr2k6I am using ubuntu on an old laptop right now, and it works gorgeously... but my other desktop running kubuntu is just having issues with kubuntu06:10
martyr2k6I mean right now it wont let me do anything after I fetched the recent package list in adept06:10
DaSkreechsuch as ?06:10
martyr2k6well, for one the video issue06:10
martyr2k6all the text is impossibly small to read06:10
martyr2k6so I mean I figured it would be quickest to format the hard drive and reinstall ubuntu06:10
martyr2k6yeah the kde environment has completely frozen and all I can use is the mouse06:11
liberviscoWhy is the "configure" button grayed out for qtcurve in kubuntu?06:14
DaSkreechmartyr2k6: Ha ha :-) I'll bet that's a X freeze06:16
artpoetryfictionOk, so I'm logged in as a user not in the sudoers group, how can I launch an app with root permission?06:24
tanjirartpoetryfiction: sudo appname06:25
DaSkreechartpoetryfiction: Sudo06:25
tanjirartpoetryfiction: you can edit /etc/sudoers to give you root permission06:27
DaSkreechor just add the user to the admin group06:27
DaSkreechwhich makes them have near root powers06:27
DaSkreechin conjunction with sudo of course06:27
DaSkreech martyr2k6: sudo update-apt-xapian-index06:28
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DaSkreech!puregnome | martyr2k606:43
ubottumartyr2k6: If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »06:43
DaSkreechthat should probably be kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data06:44
astrobearhow can i enable automatic scanning of files before they are opened firefox? files like wmv, jpeg, pdf, etc.06:47
DaSkreechhuh?06:48
astrobearhey DaSkreech, i think you went out for lunch the other day, but the problem with my computer last time is that i had upgraded software for the first time in a long time the night before and one of the programs edited the xorg.conf file06:48
DaSkreechastrobear: ah of course06:49
astrobeari had to reinstall the nvidia driver binary driver06:50
astrobearso anyway, i have family on this p.c. that open files without concerning themselves if they have viruses or whatnot06:50
astrobears/if they have/if the files contain06:51
DaSkreechastrobear: in windows?06:51
DaSkreech!virus06:52
ubottuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2106:52
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astrobearread www.geekzone.co.nz/foobar/6229 for a more recent take on viruses in linux06:57
astrobearusing linux06:57
astrobearcould run firefox 3 through a virtual windows machines (because it has automatic virus scanning)... if i had quick enough machine06:58
liberviscoHi06:58
liberviscoThe configure button doesn't show next to the qtcurve option in style settings06:59
liberviscoso it's impossible to change the qtcurve theme..06:59
DaSkreechastrobear: That's been patched in KDE already06:59
DaSkreechthey are no longer executable and raise a flag if they are07:00
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DaSkreechsorry07:01
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DaSkreechother way around07:01
DaSkreechRegardless a virus scanner will not help and quite likely will never help in Linux07:04
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astrobearso.. if a pdf has a hiddren script, the kde user is notified?07:09
astrobearhidden*07:09
DaSkreechthe pdf would have to be executable07:11
DaSkreechwhich means the user would have to make it executable themself07:14
DaSkreechnot likely for someone who is clueless and telling them that executable e-mails are bad should help the clue flow to the right side of caution07:15
KubuntiacAnyone have any ideas why kdm would load, but then kde wouldn't? I even tried switching video drivers and deleting .kde in ~....07:27
DaSkreechha07:27
DaSkreechyou too?07:27
DaSkreechI can think of a few reasons07:27
DaSkreechwhen did that start?07:28
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KubuntiacAfter some updates a few days ago07:29
KubuntiacNohing obvious in kdm.log / dmesg07:30
DaSkreech~/.xsession-errors ?07:30
KubuntiacHaven't looked there... brb07:30
KubuntiacNope. Blank. *sigh*07:31
DaSkreechKDE4 ?07:32
jabba_i has a jaunty! :D07:33
KubuntiacWhat about KDE4?07:33
KubuntiacMe too07:33
DaSkreechah jaunty07:33
DaSkreechhmm07:33
* jabba_ <3 new kubuntu07:33
Kubuntiac64 bit?07:33
jabba_it's running all nice and happy in virtualbox on my mac07:33
DaSkreechmy friend installed KDM3 and could login again as a workaround07:33
jabba_Kubuntiac: no, 32-bit guest in xVM07:34
DaSkreechnot sure if that works in Jaunty07:34
Kubuntiacinteresting...07:34
jabba_Kubuntiac: but i have hw 3d acel! :D07:34
DaSkreechI'd say try a new user andsee if they can login07:34
DaSkreechI'll warrant they can07:34
Kubuntiack I'll give it a shot07:34
jabba_and, heh, it's funny, these virtual machines, they get faster when you give em more ram :)07:34
jabba_shame it looks like it won't use more than one cpu.07:34
Kubuntiacstrange that... ;)07:34
jabba_Kubuntiac: machine in question has 16gb of ram, and it complains about "only" being given 4. i think it actually wants *contiguous* ram, which is bizarre07:35
Kubuntiaclol07:35
KubuntiacMine runs on a "measly" 4 gig of DDR2 :)07:35
jabba_Kubuntiac: this is a macpro. it's hard to kind of do things half-way07:36
jabba_my wife bought it for me for christmas07:36
jabba_sold a motorcycle to buy ram/disk for it :/07:36
Kubuntiacnice!07:37
jabba_is it worth mentioning to someone that i get lots of 404's from us.archive.ubuntu.org?07:37
jabba_when i switched to mirror.anl.gov i get all my packages?07:37
KubuntiacGive it an hour or so just in case it's just maintenance, but if it's still happening...07:37
* DaSkreech runs Vms with 700MB of RAM :(07:38
jabba_been goin on for two days07:38
KubuntiacI've seen things go offline for 15 minutes or so reasonably often07:38
jabba_DaSkreech: i run openbsd vm's in 256mb of ram :)07:38
Kubuntiacouch... I'd mention that...07:38
jabba_dirty little buggers07:38
DaSkreechjabba_: try running Windows07:38
Kubuntiacgoing offline for a miute to see if my new user can login... brb07:39
jabba_DaSkreech: i have a vista ultimage running in 4gb hat's just as happy as jaunty07:39
jabba_in fact, i'm real happy with vista in xVM -- it's faster than it is on the damn laptop! :o07:39
DaSkreechjabba_: No the main computer only has 700 MB of RAM07:39
DaSkreechNot the VM07:39
jabba_but then laptop is core2duo, and desktop is 3ghz xeon...07:40
jabba_DaSkreech: you, sir, have more patience than i07:40
jabba_doesn't it get crashy?07:40
DaSkreechIt works really well as long as I don't do something stupid like leave compositing on07:40
DaSkreechNoep07:40
jabba_or swaptastic or anything?07:40
DaSkreechworks fine07:40
jabba_hm07:41
DaSkreechIT gets swappy if run stuff like firefox in the main Computer and the vm07:41
DaSkreechI do have to restrict what I do07:41
jabba_i find it quietly unsettling that i'm downloading all my patches from .gov07:41
DaSkreechbut it works07:41
jabba_DaSkreech: so the desktop is ubuntu and your guests are... windows?07:42
DaSkreechyes07:42
jabba_vista????!!07:42
DaSkreechumm no I'm not a madman07:42
jabba_oh ehh07:42
jabba_xp behaves a lot better in a vm :)07:42
GentooJohnnyI can't get two kubuntu machines to connect to one another, but ping works for both.07:42
jabba_GentooJohnny: define "connect"07:42
jabba_GentooJohnny: like ssh?07:42
GentooJohnnyssh, terminal client, ftp, RDP anything...07:44
jabba_GentooJohnny: these are two physical ubuntu machines on the same switch, or what?07:44
GentooJohnnyyes07:44
jabba_GentooJohnny: none of these services are turned on by default. have you installed ssh-server?07:44
GentooJohnny4 port switch07:44
DaSkreechcan vista even boot in 256 MB of RAM?07:45
GentooJohnnyid perfer RDP07:45
jabba_GentooJohnny: sudo aptitude install krdp07:45
jabba_right?07:45
GentooJohnnyits installed07:45
jabba_DaSkreech: i think so?07:45
jabba_GentooJohnny: what's the error you get?07:45
DaSkreecheh I don't own a Vista license anyway First Windows I don't legally own07:46
jabba_GentooJohnny: and can you, say, "telnet hostA 22" and make sure telnet's listening?07:46
GentooJohnnyclient closed connection sometimes and sometimes it just dies silently07:46
jabba_GentooJohnny: sounds a lot like firewalls07:46
jabba_GentooJohnny: out of curiosity, are you using tcpwrappers?07:47
GentooJohnnytelnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused07:47
GentooJohnnyno07:47
jabba_GentooJohnny: so either nobody's listening on port22, or port22 isn't open07:47
jabba_i have bad news though, i'm about > < close to a reboot07:48
jabba_i think you need to install openssh-server07:48
GentooJohnnyport 5901 is open07:48
GentooJohnnyfor VNC07:48
jabba_and when you run aptitude or whatever can you search for an rdp server?07:48
jabba_why rdp instead of vnc?07:48
GentooJohnnybecause neither work07:48
GentooJohnny:(07:48
GentooJohnnyso I figured one works better than the other.07:49
jabba_GentooJohnny: i kinda prefer rdp because there are more mac tools, but krdp is a nice app07:49
jabba_i've just never used a linux-based rdp server07:49
GentooJohnnykrdp is running07:49
DaSkreechcan you rdp to yourself?07:49
GentooJohnnyon the remote machine07:49
jabba_can you telnet to the localhost port?07:49
jabba_e.g., telnet localhost 5091 or 22?07:50
GentooJohnnytelnet to this machine or the remote one?07:50
jabba_GentooJohnny: is the rdp port 5091?07:51
GentooJohnnyvnc is running on 5901 and rdp... who knows07:51
jabba_GentooJohnny: so on the machine the vnc server is running on, can you open a terminal and type "telnet localhost 5901"?07:52
jabba_it should open the connection rather than hang07:52
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* jabba_ doesn't see 5901 in /etc/services07:52
KubuntiacJust tried a new user... no go. Still no kde! :(07:52
DaSkreechKubuntiac: ah I wonder if your startkde script works07:54
jabba_what happens when you /etc/init.d/kdm restart ?07:54
KubuntiacJust checking...07:55
KubuntiacIt brings up KDM, which acts the same as before (ie perfect until login)07:55
jabba_it should giv eyou that respawning business07:55
jabba_what happens at login?07:55
KubuntiacThe moment I push enter it goes to the screen that normally shows the icons07:56
KubuntiacThe background and cursor are there but nothing else07:56
Kubuntiacit just sits there without any splash forever07:56
KubuntiacCursor can be moved tho07:56
DaSkreechKubuntiac: wait what?07:57
DaSkreechthat's not what you said before07:57
DaSkreechOr maybe I erad it wrong07:57
DaSkreechYou said it kicked you back to the login screen07:57
jabba_Kubuntiac: ctl-alt-f107:57
jabba_then can you run an xterm or konsole or whatever?07:57
Kubuntiacctrl+alt+f1 works07:57
jabba_sounds like startx is borked07:57
jabba_or startkdm or whatever07:57
DaSkreechstartkde07:57
Kubuntiac/etc/init.d/kdm restart goes to the login screen (KDM)07:58
jabba_DaSkreech: somewhere, someone has a right answer :)07:58
DaSkreechstartx calls xinit which calls startkde which calls kdeinit07:58
jabba_Kubuntiac: that's what the kdm service does :)07:58
Kubuntiack07:59
DaSkreechKubuntiac: I'd probably kill KDM start X with the X command then run startkde to see what it does07:59
KubuntiacI just tried startkde... it said "command not found"07:59
jabba_okeedokee i gotta bounce the vm with the new -rt kernel07:59
jabba_brb, maybe, or it could crash-n-burn :D07:59
Kubuntiaclater jabba!08:00
KubuntiacHmm... it's suggesting I install kde-workspace-bin... I'm thinking that should have been there from the start!08:01
jabba_haha08:01
jabba_Linux chimchim 2.6.28-3-rt #9-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Fri Mar 27 23:23:50 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux08:01
jabba_woot, it runs :D08:01
KubuntiacWoo hoo! What did you do?08:02
jabba_i switched kernels08:02
jabba_and did a full upgrade08:02
KubuntiacAhhh...08:02
jabba_it's like kde 4.mumble.a tinyfractal bit08:02
KubuntiacI might try that if the kdebase-workspace-bin install doesn't help08:03
GentooJohnnyjabba08:03
jabba_yes GentooJohnny?08:03
GentooJohnnyIm just gonna try this again tommorrow08:03
jabba_GentooJohnny: sleep well08:03
jabba_GentooJohnny: just remember, ubuntu is better than portage :)08:03
KubuntiacNight GJ!08:03
GentooJohnnycan't do it because someone else is using the monitor I need to use for a tv08:03
Kubuntiaclol08:04
Kubuntiacpriorities... ;)08:04
GentooJohnnymajor fight Id rather avoid08:04
GentooJohnnynext idea08:04
KubuntiacGood plan. Peace over stability any day.08:04
DaSkreechKubuntiac: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?08:04
GentooJohnnyits also why I need vnc/rdp/ssh working08:04
Kubuntiacgood idea DaSkreech...08:05
GentooJohnnyI hate this, I hear the machine running but can't do anything with it.08:05
KubuntiacYES!!!08:06
KubuntiacThat did it!08:06
Kubuntiac(sudo apt-get install kde-workspace-bin)08:06
KubuntiacThanks for all your suggestions Jabba_ / DaSkreech08:07
jabba_Kubuntiac: i'm trying to figure out why i haven't got support for iso mounts08:08
jabba_i can still try to help08:08
KubuntiacI think it probably saved me 10+ hours of headbanging (the bad kind)08:08
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KubuntiacActually my systems working *perfectly* now...08:09
Kubuntiacsince the install of kde-workspace-bin08:09
KubuntiacI think the update just pulled it out of my system08:09
jabba_Kubuntiac: do you know about dpkg-reconfigure?08:10
Kubuntiaca very little bit...08:10
DaSkreech[noobie]: install ssh on it08:10
Kubuntiacusually from reconfiguring xorg08:10
Kubuntiacwhy?08:11
[noobie]DaSkreech, install ssh?08:11
jabba_oh i'm just saying if your startkde gets fubar'd08:11
jabba_it's a good last result08:11
jabba_resort08:11
Kubuntiacahhh... true08:11
DaSkreech[noobie]: You should be able to get at least shell access then08:11
KubuntiacI was just running around in the wrong direction thinking it had to be corrupted config files..08:11
[noobie]I want to use the machine for a file server and as a second remote shell08:12
[noobie]perhaps with screen.08:12
DaSkreechYou still need to be ablee to log into it08:12
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jabba_Kubuntiac: don't take this the wrong way but that's sort of like the developer swearing its not their code, that the compiler MUST be broken.08:12
jabba_:)08:12
DaSkreechand ssh gives you all of that08:12
DaSkreechjabba_: not sure how I see that connection at all08:13
Kubuntiacjabba: huh? I'm confused... and I think you're giving me more tech credit than I actually deserve,.. lol08:13
jabba_sorry, i deal with a lot more developers08:13
* Kubuntiac != programmer of *any* kind08:13
Kubuntiac;)08:13
jabba_what do you MEAN my code is broken? it's OBVIOUSLY the compiler.08:14
jabba_those GNU folks. they don't know how to make a compiler.08:14
jabba_sheesh.08:14
[noobie]yes ssh will give me a shell thats a start08:14
* jabba_ chuckles08:14
jabba_(i kinda play a sysadmin on tv)08:14
Kubuntiaclol. I just assume I entered something in the console I didn't understand that I shouldn't have...08:14
[noobie]you play one... or are one playing one?08:14
jabba_i've given up trying to figure out which is which08:14
jabba_i want to just quit and be a bok choi farmer08:15
Kubuntiacroflol08:15
jabba_i hate unix08:15
Kubuntiacsegfault in bok choi... aphid panic...08:15
jabba_and now i must restart for yet another kernel model08:15
jabba_module08:15
* jabba_ sighs08:15
jabba_oh whoops08:16
jabba_it lied08:16
Kubuntiac?08:16
[noobie]lol08:16
Kubuntiacwell thanks again everyone. Now my perfectly working system is calling to me to go use it... :)08:17
KubuntiacBest of luck with the bok choi!08:18
DaSkreechjabba_: I just instaleld Windows over the weekend for someone I had to reboot 7 times08:18
jabba_windows likes to reboot08:18
DaSkreechwanted to beat my head in08:18
[noobie]wow only 7?08:18
[noobie]sp3 requires 1 reboot ALONE.08:19
DaSkreech[noobie]: That was just to get the network card to work so I could download PS308:19
DaSkreechSP308:19
DaSkreechwhich of course wanted me to reboot08:19
[noobie]lol08:19
jabba_it will install in version 1.6 or x but not 1.6.008:20
jabba_that, friends, is bad programming of shell scripts08:20
jabba_so minor hackitude is required before it will install the X module08:20
DaSkreechThat never happens with bok choi!08:21
jabba_no shit. bok choi just cooperaates.08:21
jabba_water, sun, chop sticks, brown sauce, and tofu08:21
jabba_ok i reboot now.08:22
jabba_that worked.08:24
jabba_heh08:25
jabba_running at 1680x1005 resolution :) how wacky is that08:25
jussi01jabba_: please try to not wander off topic too much, if you jsut want to chat, use #kubuntu-offtopic. :) thanks08:26
jabba_sorry jussi0108:26
jabba_jussi01: wanted to mention the 404's earlier08:26
jabba_as well as the problem with virtualbox require virtualbox-ose tools08:27
jabba_and i did try to help the rdp guy. but at any rate, i'm outta here.08:28
tyler_dhow do I log off another user from my account? -- no switching?08:31
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[noobie]question : I have this file : /home/(user)/.local/Trash I need to empty how do it empty it without being in kde?08:49
[noobie]I don't want to delete the folder just empty the trash within it.08:52
shock_day13then right click on the trash can and click on empty trash can08:52
[noobie]lol. there is no trash can08:52
shock_day13click on add widgets08:52
[noobie]I suppose I could use dolphin08:52
shock_day13you'll find trash can there08:52
shock_day13add it to your desktop08:52
[noobie]shock_day13, perhaps this is the wrong place to ask, Im not in KDE08:53
[noobie]I fixed it08:53
shock_day13oh08:53
shock_day13k08:53
DaSkreech:-)08:53
shock_day13hey noobie08:54
shock_day13if you are not in kde then how are you using konversation?08:54
shock_day13are you using it on gnome?08:54
DaSkreechshock_day13: You don't have to be in KDE to use KDE apps08:54
shock_day13ya i know that08:54
[noobie]its xchat Im using08:55
shock_day13oh ok08:55
shock_day13im still new to this irc thing08:55
[noobie]shock_day13, its ok we were all once in your shoes08:56
shock_day13hey darkscreech do we get directly connected to kubuntu server from this irc clients without the use of internet?08:56
[noobie]shock_day13, you must use the internet to connect to anything outside your local (home) network08:57
shock_day13k08:58
shock_day13lol it seems im the real noobie here08:58
[noobie]no comment08:58
shock_day13hahahahaha08:58
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[noobie]31 mph winds ack Im glad Im indoors08:59
[noobie]chatting with you lot08:59
shock_day13where are you from?09:00
Tm_T!ot09:00
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:00
shock_day13hey ubottu i have a kubuntu related query09:02
[noobie]sadly I can't say anything about kde. it seems to self destruct the more I use it.09:02
shock_day13well it aint that complicated09:03
shock_day13hey noobie are you a programmer?09:04
[noobie]just a regular joe09:05
shock_day13k09:05
shock_day13do you know any software or any way through which we can make our own's themes for kde?09:05
shock_day13hey where can i find other such channels for irc clients?09:07
[noobie]shock_day13, here?09:08
shock_day13yup09:09
shock_day13i mean is there any site or anything that lists all the irc channels09:09
DaSkreechshock_day13: try /list09:09
shock_day13k09:09
[noobie]if your in xchat or irssi /list is completely useless09:10
[noobie]unless your REALLY a fast reader09:10
shock_day13how to stop this list from loading?09:12
[noobie]shock_day13, hence why I said, its useless09:16
shock_day13lol09:16
shock_day13finally the list has stopped09:16
[noobie]if your in xchat right click in the window and goto server > list of channels09:17
shock_day13k09:17
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[noobie]lol /list fills your buffer 200x over with big networks like freenode09:18
[noobie]lol09:18
heavenmetalhow do i install kubuntu 8.10 to a separate hdd (ide, master) from my vista 64 install (sata 0)..09:26
heavenmetalshould i just disconnect the sata hdd or will that screw things up when they're both connected..09:27
SlimeyPeteit'll screw things up because you'll be wanting to put the bootloader on the SATA drive, I imagine09:31
SlimeyPetethe installer should just let you put kubuntu on your second drive09:31
caleb_o10:02
kevin_Will a desktop system go into suspend-to-ram mode ever?  It seems like mine is doing that; I don't want it to as I am serving a copule of things.10:09
* gambas says hello to everyone10:25
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ioirc.oltreirc.net10:54
svirHi all11:07
glickhmm11:11
glicki dont get it i have 3 gigs of ram11:11
glicki would think that kde would be a little snappier than it is11:11
glickand fonts generally look pretty ugly11:11
glickit just seems like it lags when do things11:11
glickand screen redraws arnt smooth11:11
SlimeyPetesounds like a graphics driver issue11:12
glickim running nvidia11:12
glicki think11:12
glicknvidia 1.111:13
glick1.1711:13
glickmaybe i have to take a trip to my local linux lug11:14
SlimeyPetemight be best11:14
SlimeyPetetbh it's quite liekly to just be a bug in kde411:14
glickbut im not running beta11:18
glickim running ibex11:18
glickyeah the lag kina sucks11:20
glickit just doesnt feel smooth and snappy11:20
glickits hard to explain11:20
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eagles0513875hey guys im having trouble getting intrepid to load the live cd11:40
eagles0513875im trying it in safe graphics mode right now and nothigns happening11:41
Havoc][does anybody have a working xinerama with nvidia and compize under kde 4.2.1?11:48
jussi01Havoc][: I have twinview, but not xinerama. I think its broken.11:50
eagles0513875!tablet11:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tablet11:55
eagles0513875hey jussi01 what do i need to install to enable tablet features in intrepid11:55
eagles0513875!wacom11:57
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom11:57
eagles0513875!info wacom11:57
ubottuPackage wacom does not exist in intrepid11:57
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funcrushI was installing the kubuntu 9.04 beta but suddenly, the installing stop and loged on ubuntu and i can't continue how i can fix?12:02
funcrushI was installing the kubuntu 9.04 beta but suddenly, the installing stop and loged on ubuntu(id for live cd)  and i can't continue how i can fix?12:04
bazhang!jaunty12:04
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.12:04
funcrushwell anyone cant' help me T-T12:05
funcrushhave a nice day12:05
eagles0513875bazhang: wasnt he in the wrong channel12:07
eagles0513875ahh nm12:07
ibrarHow to download the kernel kbuntu 8.10 uses12:09
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alepot!intrepid12:10
ubottuUbuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is the current release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ - Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/81012:10
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eagles0513875alepot:  cant u get the kernel from kernel.org12:12
eagles0513875or does kubuntu make modifications to it12:13
alepoteagles0513875: you can get a vanilla kernel, but, as you say, ubuntu does patch it.12:13
eagles0513875patch it in what way12:14
alepotnever looked :)12:14
ibrarSo how I can download, kernel source code which should be compatible with kabuntu 8.1012:15
alepotyou could use kernel-package to compile a stock kernel, which, unless you need something not provided by the stock kernel, is probably the best way to go12:15
alepotsudo aptitude install  linux-source12:16
alepotmore than you need to know about the process if you search for "compile kernel" on the ubuntu documentaqtion site12:18
ibrarActually I want a feature which was part of the 2.4, but dropped in 2.612:20
eagles0513875ibrar: just download the latest kernel source and recompile the kernel im sure its there just not compiled wiht the default kubuntu kernel12:25
alepotibrar: I'd agree with eagles0513875  - you'll probably find it in the config12:25
eagles0513875not to mention you can take out any features that dont pertain to your system12:26
eagles0513875for instance if you have an amd system u can take out the module for intel etc12:26
alepotibrar: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile12:26
eagles0513875bah got too many things going at once lol12:27
eagles0513875got intrepid installing on my laptop onto a usb12:27
alepotI like LTS releases :)12:28
eagles0513875meh i always upgrade when a new one comes out12:29
alepottoo risky for me - I like to wait for the breakages to be fixed12:29
alepotI run production servers here12:29
eagles0513875thats different12:30
eagles0513875i got a vm on this machine right now running shoutcast and soon to be dovecot12:30
eagles0513875have u used dovecot in ubuntu server or kubuntu12:30
alepotno - I meant things like bind, dhcpd and kolab12:30
tony_hi12:31
tony_does anybody here know an irc client for GNOME12:31
alepotxchat-gnbome?12:32
bazhangtony_, xchat is one12:32
alepot*gnome12:32
tony_thanks! i'll try those now :D12:32
eagles0513875is there any way during installation to point grub to my usb pen drive instead of my hard drive12:46
alepotI read something about that recently. Youbcan12:47
eagles0513875alepot: ?12:49
eagles0513875!info youbcan12:49
ubottuPackage youbcan does not exist in intrepid12:49
alepotphone brb12:49
alepotlol you can12:49
alepotsorry about that - yes, you can tell it to boot off the usb by installing grub there - grub always boot device as hd0, IIRC12:52
alepot*always sees12:53
alepottheres a good howto here: https://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php?title=Ubuntu_USB_Install12:55
eagles0513875ill have to try it some othe rtime12:57
eagles0513875im resizing me windows partition12:57
eagles0513875to duel boot12:57
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EvilRoeyhello13:27
EvilRoeyis Facebook's Java Photo uploader supposed to work in Konqueror?13:27
EvilRoeyI have Java installed13:27
EvilRoey(32-bit)13:27
EvilRoeyyet when I try and add more photos to a Facebook photo album,13:28
EvilRoeyI get "loading applet"13:28
EvilRoeyand that's it.13:28
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rmrfslash_is jaunty in beta yet? I want my beta!13:36
rmrfslash_where are my bugs!13:37
EvilRoeyhere's one13:37
EvilRoeyIs Facebook's Java Photo uploader supposed to work in Konqueror?  I have Java installed.  When I try and add more photos to a Facebook photo album, I get "loading applet"--and that's it.13:37
Mamarokguys, Jaunty support is in #ubuntu+113:37
rmrfslash_If I'm not mistaken, applets just run in a jvm. So I don't see why it _shouldn't_ work13:38
rmrfslash_unless maybe you're using GCJ and not Sun Java13:38
rmrfslash_which sometimes causes problems13:38
EvilRoeyusing sun13:38
rmrfslash_well.... I'm out of ideas :D13:39
Laruftrmrfslash_: jaunty beta is out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/beta/13:39
rmrfslash_u try it in firefox?13:39
EvilRoeyyeah13:39
EvilRoeyit works in firefox.13:39
rmrfslash_work?13:39
rmrfslash_oh13:39
rmrfslash_yeah, prolly konqueror plugin then.13:39
EvilRoeyrmrfslash_:  can you prefix my name?  that way it highlights and I can now when the window's updated13:39
EvilRoeyhmm13:39
EvilRoeykonqueror plugin.13:39
EvilRoeyok.13:39
rmrfslash_EvilRoey: sorry13:39
EvilRoeykonqueror-nsplugins is already the newest version.13:40
EvilRoeykonqueror-nsplugins set to manually installed.13:40
Laruftrmrfslash_:  that link was for ubuntu, here is kubuntu http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/beta/13:40
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EvilRoeyrmrfslash_:  thanks :) :)13:40
rmrfslash_EvilRoey: I dunno, I mean, I don't think people really test Konqueror compat :(13:41
EvilRoeyrmrfslash_:  that's a shame! I severely dislike firefox as much as I am disappointed in Konqueror :(13:42
MarkieMark1I get photo uploaders that are incompatible with firefox at times too13:42
EvilRoeyrmrfslash_:  in Konqueror and in KHTML13:42
rmrfslash_EvilRoey: Firefox has gotten bad as of late, I agree13:42
EvilRoeyrmrfslash_:  there's a memory leak13:42
rmrfslash_yup13:42
EvilRoeyrmrfslash_:  if you try and tag people in faceboook photos13:42
rmrfslash_big time13:42
EvilRoeyit starts gobbling your memory big-time13:42
EvilRoeyright13:42
ibrarWhere can i found "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts" in kbuntu 8.1013:42
rmrfslash_EvilRoey: Leave Gmail open for an hour13:43
ibrarsed  found/find13:43
EvilRoeyrmrfslash_:  oh?13:43
EvilRoeyok13:43
rmrfslash_EvilRoey: you'll see some fun stuff happen13:43
EvilRoeythe problems that gnu/linux has today:13:43
EvilRoey1) games13:43
rmrfslash_EvilRoey: consistently 120% CPU13:43
EvilRoey2) nvidia binary drivers13:43
EvilRoey3) flash13:43
EvilRoey4) pdf creation13:43
EvilRoey(forms, specifically)13:44
EvilRoeysee a pattern?13:44
EvilRoeyit's all what happens when companies refuse to GPL their drivers.13:44
rmrfslash_EvilRoey: I've been really endorsing ATI over NVIDIA lately as they've released the specs on all their chips and are now supporting open source drivers13:44
EvilRoeyor programs.13:44
EvilRoeyrmrfslash_:  I'm just using intel integrated graphics on my workstation13:44
EvilRoeyrmrfslash_:  I see what you're saying13:45
EvaLuaTehello13:45
EvilRoeyrmrfslash_:  but I hear there's still no really good driver for ATi on Linux that's on par with the drivers for Windows13:45
EvilRoeyhey ev13:45
EvaLuaTeis there any way to make kde remember window sizes for previously opened windows?13:45
rmrfslash_EvilRoey: I think we'll be reprimanded soon for going off topic13:46
rmrfslash_:D13:46
rmrfslash_we can move this convo to kubuntu-offtopic (or whatever it's called)13:46
Riesh!offtopic13:46
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!13:46
rmrfslash_yep13:46
Riesh:-)13:46
EvilRoeyhey I didn't know that existed13:46
EvilRoeythanks13:47
EvaLuaTeany idea anyone?13:47
rmrfslash_I think compiz can style individual windows13:48
EvaLuaTedo i have to add a rule for each program in the 'System Settings -> window behavior' and set 'Size' to 'Remember' or is there an easier way?13:48
EvaLuaTermrfslash_: i like kdm as window manager, this is the only thing that i can't figure out how to do ...13:48
rmrfslash_maybe kubuntu has something similar in it's native compositing implementation13:49
rmrfslash_System Prefs > Windows13:49
rmrfslash_or there could be another way..... I dunno.13:49
margaretIf I am using the hardware drivers application in 8.10 for my wireless card and it's got "fwcutter is a tool which can extract firmware from various source files.It's written for BCM43xx driver files." and the driver option is greyed out does that mean I cannot use it?13:50
rmrfslash_I'm really not too sure Evaluate, just something I thought I'd spew out. There could be another, easier way.13:52
rmrfslash_EvaLuaTe: I need to really start putting people's names first ;)13:52
Newbeehello everybody13:52
EvaLuaTermrfslash_: yeah, i read what you said ...13:52
Newbeedoes anyone out here know what to do to make strigi work in Kubuntu jaunty?13:53
Newbeewhen I enable it in the systemsettings, it just tells me, that it is not running.13:53
eagles0513875Newbee:  join the ubuntu+1 channel for jaunty support13:53
eagles0513875this is support for the current intrepid release13:53
EvaLuaTermrfslash_: i tried setting the 'Placement' to 'Smart' in the 'System Settings -> Window Behaviour' and it seems to work pretty fine. i'm curios if it will remember the pidgin conversation window sized :D13:54
Newbeeeagles0513875: ok, thanks. I didn ' t know that.13:54
eagles0513875im having trouble connecting to my wifi network with the bc43xx and the network manager im showing that there is a proprietary driver for it13:54
eagles0513875no prob Newbee13:54
Newbeeis there a kubuntu+1 channel too?13:54
eagles0513875ubuntu+1 for all versions of jaunty Newbee13:54
Newbeeeagles0513875: ok, thanks13:56
MarcoPauhello, my alt gr key is seen (checked with xev) as left alt key. how do I correct its setting?13:56
LaruftEvaLuaTe: there is no help either on what placement implies on that advanced tab :-(13:56
eagles0513875no prob Newbee13:57
LaruftI assume it means position of a new window13:57
brazillabeta fine already?13:57
eagles0513875?13:58
Larufteagles did you read the error messages in the system log file?13:58
brazillai mean if it runs fine already :)13:58
EvaLuaTeLaruft: yeah, i noticed there's no help. i just hope it will behave like i expect it to :p13:58
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LaruftI had issues with wifi card before, v1 linksys wpc54gs card.  tried all sorts.  ndiswrapper/fwcutter etc13:59
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picketfenceIs this where Kubuntu Newbies come for help?13:59
eagles0513875yes13:59
eagles0513875just ask your question if anyone knows they will answer14:00
picketfenceHow do I unpack a .rar file?14:00
eagles0513875!rar14:00
ubotturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free14:00
cinexpicketfence: unrar14:00
cinexor14:00
cinexsudo apt-get install unrar14:00
cinexand then you can use ark14:00
picketfenceOh, cool. Ok.14:00
picketfenceI'm in the process of installing LimeWire at the moment.14:01
cinexpicketfence: don't do it lol14:01
picketfenceBut I'll definitely do the apt-get14:01
picketfenceNo LimeWire? Why not?14:01
cinexlimewire is awful14:01
eagles0513875in usa yes14:01
eagles0513875but in europe its not lol14:01
picketfenceOk, then I'll just move.  :-)14:01
cinexpicketfence: I think you will need java for limewire14:02
picketfenceI see your point.......14:02
picketfenceYeah, I just noticed that. :-(14:02
cinexyou know how to do that/14:02
picketfence"sun-java6-jre-10-0ubuntu2" failed to install or upgrade.14:02
picketfenceMessage just popped up14:02
cinexpicketfence: i just download it from java.com14:02
picketfenceoh, it's not an apt-get?14:02
cinexpicketfence: it is, i guess, but i just use the java.com one. and point all my apps to it.14:03
brazillafilesharing is dead14:03
brazillago for torrent or rapidshare ;)14:03
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picketfenceIs it possible to get mp3s with torrent?14:04
brazillaaye14:04
picketfenceI did not know that.14:04
cinexi don't think filesharing is an accepted topic in here14:04
picketfenceHow stable is Kubuntu supposed to be?14:04
bazhang!piracy14:04
ubottupiracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o14:04
brazillapicketfence: if you download an album you can select the tracks you want in ktorrent14:04
picketfenceI ask because mine is buggin....14:05
brazillai only mean free albums ofc :)14:05
picketfenceAnd I'm done with the torrent topic.14:05
Riesh!o4o14:05
ubottuSome things are inappropriate for #kubuntu. Controversial topics, which often turn into flame wars: war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, questionably legal activities, suicide are not for here. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy)14:05
picketfenceof course ;-)14:05
brazillapicketfence: go for ktorrent14:05
picketfencek14:05
Rieshpicketfence: screen + rtorrent14:06
picketfenceHow stable is Kubuntu supposed to be? Mine is bugging on me.14:06
brazillaactually the kde quality is quite bad14:06
brazillaive seen kde working better on other distros14:06
brazillai wonder why that is14:06
Guest4962for example14:07
picketfenceSadly, it's the only distro that I have been able to use with my wireless NIC14:07
brazillaopen suse works better14:07
picketfenceIs there an ISO I can d/l?14:07
Rieshpicketfence: what kind of iso ?14:08
picketfencefor suse, or whatever works good.14:08
bazhangask in #suse14:08
brazillapicketfence: yep, ofc, go to their homepage14:08
Rieshyes ... you can go to the website www.opensuse.org14:08
picketfencehomepage. Why didn't I think of that? :-/14:09
cinexsuse has a comercial and a free version  it hink14:09
bazhangofftopic for here14:09
cinexi think*14:09
cinexlike redhat/fedora14:09
picketfenceYou're right, bazhang. Sorry about that.14:09
picketfenceI have to reboot. I'll be back. But before I go, I have one question that isn't about Kubuntu, but IRC14:09
picketfenceHow do I register my nick?14:10
cinex?14:10
brazillakde quality in kubuntu is rly poor :S14:10
bazhang!register14:10
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode14:10
cinex/msg nickserv help14:10
picketfenceThank you.14:10
bazhangbrazilla, please chat in #kubuntu-offtopic NOT here14:10
brazillabazhang: on my way14:10
picketfenceOk, I'll be back soon. I have tons of questions.  :-)14:11
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Guest70304I have problem when I play mp3, I get a lot of noise/distortion togheter with the music14:16
picketfenceOk, I think I'm back14:16
Guest70304not only mp3 any streamradio from internet14:17
Guest70304any idea?? is a problem since a few days ago14:17
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tony_The K start button got replaced to a left arrow button, as well as in the widget list. I might have typed something in error that changed the start button.14:19
BluesKaj'Morning Folks14:19
picketfenceI made a directory named "downloads" so I could find everything I download through FireFox. But I can't download directly into that folder. Something about permissions. How do I change that?14:19
Rieshpicketfence: sudo chown <your_username> downloads14:20
* Ash-Fox wonders how he managed to create a directory without having permissions on it..14:22
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picketfenceI can't figure that out, either Ash-Fox14:22
picketfenceOk, got it. Thanks Riesh14:24
SvennyBoyHallo, spricht jemand deutsch hier?14:25
RieshSvennyBoy: nein14:25
Riesh!de14:25
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.14:25
SvennyBoyok, no matter14:25
SvennyBoyhow can i find more irc channels?14:26
Laruftsearchirc.com14:26
SvennyBoythanks14:26
Larufttyping /list will give you a list of all the channels on the server, but it floods Quassel client.14:27
margaretok if use konqueror to browse to a hotmail account and some if the writing (sign out button) is messed up I can try to fix it with browser indentification, would I have to, for location, put hotmail.com or the actual webpage url when I see the error14:27
Rieshuse /msg alis list "what you want to search for"14:27
SvennyBoyperfect! thanks alot!14:27
picketfenceMargaret: I've used hotmail.com before and that fixed the problem14:28
BluesKajtony_, you can add the kmenu icon by adding widgets , it's in the list14:28
Dillizarhey i have a 400mhz laptop with 128ram ( for now) can i install xubuntu and then KDE 3.5.10 will thw kde work on this mashine? with noe effects no nada14:28
BluesKajDillizar, it'll run but it'll be a bit slow , if you upgrade the Ram to 256 , that will make quite difference for you.14:29
margaretpicketfence: did you put the exact url or just hotmail.com or windows.live.com or windows.live.com/defaultblahblahblah?14:29
picketfencemargaret: I used http://windows.live.com14:30
margaretand which setting did you use IE 6 or firefox 2.0?14:30
picketfenceSet it to IE614:30
margaretok thank you14:30
picketfencenp14:30
ibrarI have updated the /etc/network/interfaces to SET ip address of interfaces, but kbuntu is not picking up these IP14:31
picketfenceCan I apt-get Pidgin, or do I have to download it?14:32
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Dillizarpicketfence14:33
Dillizarsudo apt-get install pidgen14:33
picketfencethanks14:33
Dillizartry this14:33
picketfenceOk, now it's working. I don't know what I was doing wrong earlier.14:34
Dillizaryou need install14:35
Dillizarand put pidgin not Pidgin14:35
Dillizar!info pidgin14:35
ubottupidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.5.2-0ubuntu1.1 (intrepid), package size 546 kB, installed size 1952 kB14:35
picketfenceUm, ok. I capitalized it, and it's getting anyway.14:35
ibrar?14:36
Rieshpicketfence: you can use the up arow to see commands you typed earleir ... compare with the latest and you see what you did wrong14:36
picketfenceRiesh: I had tried getting it before I found KIRC14:36
picketfenceIt was like yesterday night.14:36
picketfenceBut since I capitalized pidgin, does that mean I'm getting the wrong one?14:37
picketfenceIt looks like it just installed something.14:37
RieshI get: "E: Couldn't find package Pidgin"14:38
picketfenceGreat. It's done, but I have no idea where it went.14:38
RieshKmenu > Applications > internet14:39
picketfenceOh, I see it. Thanks:-)14:39
picketfenceUm, now I'm being told that two packages are no longer required...14:40
picketfencelinux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic14:40
ibrarAny body tells me any thing wrong in kbuntu to set IP address static14:40
picketfenceand linux headers-2.6.27-714:40
ibrarI have updated the /etc/network/interfaces to SET ip address of interfaces, but kbuntu is not picking up these IP14:40
Rieshsudo apt-get autoremove14:40
picketfenceI just wanted to make sure it was safe to do. Doesn't Linux need the headers to load up?14:41
Rieshibrar: if you can to use the old way of managing the interfaces you have to uninstall network-manager14:41
ibrarSo whats the new way?14:42
ibrarActually I want to set IP using script14:42
ibrarnot by GUI14:42
Rieshwith network-manager ... but i always find it difficult to set a static IP with it14:42
picketfenceHow do I move certain windows to the other desktop?14:42
Rieshpicketfence: right click on the title bar on the top of the window ....14:43
Rieshand choose To Desktop >14:44
ibrarYes network-manager sucks! actually i dont know why we are changing things14:44
picketfenceThank you.14:44
Rieshnetwork manager is nice with wireless and DHCP ... on my laptop ...14:44
picketfenceI have to go, but knowing me, I'll be back soon.14:44
BluesKajibrar,http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/setting-a-static-ip-in-kubuntu-8.10....-690093/14:45
MarcoPauanybody knows how to change the creation date of a file?14:47
LaruftMarco, try touch command perhaps14:51
Laruftif i am replacing a distro, what should I copy off and restore besides entirity of home folder14:54
ibrar_riesh: I have uninstall it and still kubuntu is not picking static ip14:55
BluesKajare behind a router ibrar , if so you'll have to change the setting from dynamic to static14:56
BluesKajin the rourer14:56
BluesKajerr router14:56
picketfenceTold you I'd be back. :-)14:56
picketfencePerhaps this question isn't for this room. If not, please don't yell at me; I'm sensitive. ;-)14:57
MarcoPauLaruft: I'm checking that out, thanks for the hint14:57
picketfenceI finally installed Java Sun, but now when I try to install LimeWire, it starts, then just goes away.14:57
picketfenceAnd I can't find it anywhere on the K menu14:57
Laruftopen a shell and type limewire14:58
Laruftsee what it says14:58
ibrar_No I am not behind router, just want to change my Ip dynamc to static14:58
BluesKajlimewire has alinux equivalent , just can't recall the name14:58
bazhang!frostwire14:58
ubottufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire14:58
Rieshibrar_: you sure you have the right config in /etc/network/interfaces ?14:59
picketfencebash: limewire: command not found14:59
picketfenceI'll check out frostwire14:59
BluesKaj!ifconf15:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ifconf15:00
BluesKajoops15:00
Riesh!ifup ?15:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ifup ?15:00
ibrar_riesh: yup15:00
BluesKaj!ifconfig15:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig15:00
Laruft!ifcfg15:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ifcfg15:00
Laruftlol15:00
RieshYou also have above the interface "auto eth0" ... or whatever your interface si15:01
Rieshis15:01
Riesh?15:01
BluesKajrun ifconfig in the terminal15:01
ibrar_i just did that and no ip address just the interfaces15:02
Ash-FoxScroll up.15:02
ibrar_if I set IP address using GUI it shows up15:03
picketfenceHow do I see how much disk space I have left?15:03
Rieshpicketfence: df -h15:03
picketfenceWow, I'll have to remember that. I have less space left than I thought!15:04
Rieshpicketfence: sudo apt-get clean :-)15:04
picketfenceoh yeah? Ok, I'll try that as soon as apt-get is done with firefox15:05
picketfenceWhat exactly is Qt?15:05
Rieshit will throw away archive packages ... normally you don't ned to keep them on the drive15:06
BluesKaj!Qt15:06
ubottuQt is the Qt (pronounced "cute") toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt 3 applications or libqt4-dev for Qt 4 applications. Qt 4.4 is available from hardy-backports15:06
picketfenceOh, ok. I just wondered.15:07
picketfenceHere we go again. Kubuntu is bugging out on me. What causes the mouse to be in several places at once? and then leave trails that don't go away?15:08
margaretdoesn anyone know if there is a web site advisor app/addon for konqueror?15:09
margaret-n15:09
BluesKajmargaret, web site advisor app/addon for konqueror? err, can you explain what you mean ?15:12
BluesKajkonqueror has fallen behind the other browsers in it's ability to render pages , I tried to hang on but I finally gave up and installedd FF15:13
BluesKajBBL ..errands15:13
RieshBluesKaj: maybe you can try webkitkde ...15:15
Rieshcan use webkit to render in konqueror15:15
picketfenceI found and installed java, then did apt-get for frostwire.15:19
picketfenceNow it tells me Java is not in my PATH.15:19
picketfenceWhat gives?15:19
ibrarI am back!15:19
ibrarI am still failed to set static IP address for my kubuntu 8.1015:20
ibrar> iface eth0 inet static15:21
ibrar> address 192.168.1.10015:21
ibrar> netmask 255.255.255.015:21
ibrar> network 192.168.1.015:21
ibrar> broadcast 192.168.1.25515:21
ibrar> gateway 192.168.1.25415:21
ibraris my /etc/network/interfaces15:21
Rieshibrar: did you put auto eth0 before that ?15:22
ibrarPreviosuly it was there but I removed it and added "iface eth0 inet static"15:23
RieshYou have to put auto eth0 before that ... otherwise it will not automatically set up15:23
ibrarI think kubutu is not picking it from "/etc/network/interfaces" file15:23
Rieshi just have it set like that15:23
ibrarLet me add it again15:23
picketfenceHow do I add Java to my PATH?15:24
RieshBut i only have address, netmask and gateway as options15:24
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ibrarNothing happends15:25
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dwidmannpicketfence: export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/java15:26
Rieshibrar: what if you remove broadcast & network15:26
picketfencethanks15:26
ibrarriesh: Its same behaviour15:27
ibrarriesh: I think I have to reinstall network-manager comes with kubutu and try this15:27
BluesKajibrar, what kind of net connection are you using dsl, cable ?15:28
ibrarsimple ethernet15:28
hiena!cabextract15:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cabextract15:29
norenhi all15:29
hiena!info cabextract15:29
ubottucabextract (source: cabextract): a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-3 (intrepid), package size 54 kB, installed size 192 kB15:29
rickeyhey fox15:33
foxfirehey rick15:33
rickeymy adept manger crashed ,i need the sudo command to unlock it15:35
Dragnslcr!aptfix15:36
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:36
rickeyis there anyone here awake ,like real pepole??15:38
DragnslcrNope15:38
Tm_Tdefine real pepole15:39
* Riesh zzzzz15:39
rickeyooooooooooooo i love this channel15:39
norenrickywhat do u want15:39
noren!ot | rickey15:40
ubotturickey: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!15:40
Tm_Tnoren: well that was hesitant one15:41
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norenwhy15:41
Tm_Tnothing, carry on15:41
beardbarwhats a quick way to see what video driver version im runing15:43
noreni guess lsmode15:44
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roBBertociao15:45
roBBertoc'è nessuno?15:45
Tm_Tbeardbar: hmmm, quick way is difficult thing to find out, but one way is to look what your xorg log contains15:46
roBBertosono così antipatico?15:46
Tm_Tbeardbar: like this: grep -A 10 xorg/modules/driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log15:46
Tm_T!br | roBBerto15:46
ubotturoBBerto: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.15:46
BluesKaj!it | roBBerto15:46
ubotturoBBerto: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)15:46
norenTm_T: wen we press aroww key in the konsole it gives us the last command run by us which is file tht it storest all the previous command run by us15:47
Tm_Tnoren: .bash_history15:48
Tm_Tusually15:48
Daskreechnoren in ~15:48
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norenhey Daskreech after long time15:48
Daskreechif not there is ~/.history15:48
Daskreechhi noren15:48
norenwhere is this file i cant find it15:49
Daskreechnoren: in ~15:49
norenoh thanks is there any limit how much it can store15:50
Daskreechyes15:50
Daskreech$HISTLIMIT15:50
DaskreechI think it's set to 500 by default15:51
Tm_THISTSIZE15:51
Tm_Tand yes 500 by default15:51
Tm_TI use 5000 these days15:51
DaskreechHISTSIZE :)15:51
DaskreechJust found it15:51
Tm_TDaskreech: see what I said above (:)15:51
DaskreechTm_T: Do you have your commands compressed ?15:51
Tm_TDaskreech: compressed?15:52
norenhow did u find out that15:52
DaskreechTm_T: If you do the same command twice does it compress it to one command?15:52
Tm_TI do have ignoreboth and ignoredubs15:52
Tm_TDaskreech: yes, ofcourse15:52
Daskreechok yeah15:52
DaskreechWhy 5000 then?15:52
DaskreechYOu use the command line a lot?15:52
Tm_Tonly ~20 shells running in my desktop(s)15:52
norenhow cna i configure the same15:53
DaskreechYEah I nonmrally ahve about 815:53
Tm_Tnoren: it's all in .bashrc15:53
Tm_T~/.bashrc I mean15:53
Daskreechnoren:  in blast you Tm_T15:53
norennoren:  in blast you Tm_T ??15:53
Tm_Tnoren: Daskreech is just bit grumpy as I was faster15:54
Daskreechnoren: I was talking to you and he answered first15:54
Tm_Teven when I'm old and slow and doing other thing15:54
DaskreechI just woke up so I'm hungry15:54
Daskreechand grumpy15:54
Daskreech:-|15:54
BluesKajDaskreech , gumpy ..you ? .. I don't beleive it :)15:58
BluesKajgrumpy that is15:58
DaskreechDopey?15:58
Daskreechhow about Sneezy?15:58
ibrar_Got it15:59
ibrar_riesh:15:59
BluesKajSleepy?15:59
* Daskreech tries to remember more of the dwarves16:00
Riesh?16:00
Rieshibrar_: tell :-)16:00
ibrar_http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/16:01
ibrar_We should remove dhcp client too16:01
hiena!offtopic16:01
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:01
ibrar_8.10 has a bug16:01
Daskreechor tell it to stop checking at least16:01
Daskreechhi mtux16:01
norenhiena: offtopic who ??16:02
mtuxhey Daskreech16:02
Daskreechhow are you?16:02
mtuxDaskreech: fine, :) thanks16:02
DaskreechHow is Bilbo ?16:02
Rieshibrar_: aha ... nice to know you have it working now16:02
mtuxDaskreech: It's fine too :D16:03
DaskreechI'm installing choqok in Jackalope but it's not popping up in the menu is that supposed to happen?16:03
ibrar_atleast, but really worry. Linux was built for networking and kubutu/ubutu has these kind of bugs16:03
norenhey guys wen we move some thing from one partitionn to other does it really move the files physically on the harddisk or only in ftab16:04
cinexphysically16:04
Daskreechibrar_: Ubuntu != linux16:04
Daskreechlinux is a good deal broader than ubuntu16:04
cinexubuntu does equal linux16:04
cinexlinus != ubuntu16:04
cinexlinux*16:04
mtuxDaskreech: hmm, I think it should16:05
norencinex: agreed16:05
Daskreechcinex: that mathematically does not make sense :-P16:05
cinexit is linux16:05
ibrar_how you can say linux != ubuntu16:05
cinexbecause linux can be more than ubuntu, it can be redhat16:05
cinexbut ubuntu cannot be windows16:05
cinexit cant be unix16:05
gmiernickiwow, this looks like a good topic16:06
Daskreechspeaking on the state of ubuntu does not speak about the state of linux16:06
ibrar_I think linux <= ubuntu16:06
Daskreech speaking about the state of linux does not speak about the staet of ubuntu16:06
ibrar_and linux <= redhat16:06
cinexlinux >=ubuntu16:06
Daskreechthey are tied16:06
Riesh:-\it's like "a dog is an animal, but not all animals are dogs"16:06
cinexyes Riesh16:06
ibrar_how linux >=ubuntu16:06
norenhow to check the md5 from console16:07
Daskreechbut one can be masked or broken by the other16:07
cinexdo == animanl but animal != dog16:07
cinexdo = dpg16:07
cinexdog16:07
* cinex questions his logic16:07
norenSUPPORT CHANNEL HELP ME16:07
noren:)16:07
ibrar_So ubutu is dog or linux ;)16:08
Rieshmd5sum xxxx16:08
Daskreechyellow dog!16:08
Daskreechnoren: what was the question ?16:08
norendo i need to installs some software seperatly16:08
Rieshnoren md5sum is a program to check md516:08
Daskreech?16:08
cinexnoren: for what?16:08
norenchecking MD5 from cli16:08
Daskreechnoren: ask a different question :)16:08
Daskreechnoren: no md5sum is installed16:08
ibrar_noren : openssl can help you16:09
Daskreechjust type md5sum /path/to/file16:09
beardbarnvidia came out with a new version of its linux driver that supposedly fixes eve online crashes, I have version 180.29 but need to upgrade to 180.44 I am unsure of how to go about it properlly and havent found any documentation yet through google, can someone help?16:09
motquestion16:10
cinexbearbar www.nvidia.com will have a driver for install16:10
motin jaunty beta, what packaged do i need to install knetworkmanager and get rid of that stupid nm-applet ?16:10
cinexmight cause you problems though if u don't remove the ubuntu version first16:10
Daskreechbeardbar: if you are getting it from nVidia's site they will have instructions there16:10
motit won't save my settings, and i much prefer knetworkmanager16:10
Daskreechmot: sudo apt-gt install knetworkmanager ?16:11
moti installed knetworkmanager and the networkmanager service, and it shows wireless networks however when i click one of them to connect nothing happens.16:11
motif i connect via the nm-applet, then knetworkmanager shows activity (like connecting) but i want to totally separate myself from the nm-applet because it's crap16:11
MarcoPauI got a whole bunch of problems in my keyboard according to xev. is there any tool in kde to remap the keyboard?16:12
Daskreechcause they changed the interfce for networkmanager7 and knetworkmanager hasn't been updated to use it16:12
norenMarcoPau: just correct your keyboard setting16:12
MarcoPaunoren: how? I'm trying xkeycaps but it's not giving any result16:13
MarcoPauactually I lost some other keys16:13
noren!keyboard16:15
ubottuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts16:15
ubuntu_!resolution16:16
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution16:16
slow-motionhi16:29
cinexhi16:30
Laruftwill kde 3.5 apps work ok in 4.2?  or will they cause system unstablitity?  what are the implications?16:30
DaskreechLaruft: yes16:31
Daskreechthey work16:31
Daskreechit's just like having a Gnome application run16:31
Daskreechit just calls different libraries16:31
Laruftjust wonder why quassel was included instead of konversation  if konv works..16:32
pestilenceso i installed jaunty beta, and type "amarok".  some program comes up that is named "amarok" but is definitely not the amarok i've been using (all of my podcasts are gone!)  why did you take away the real amarok???16:32
cinexpestilence: are you running some plugin or other to make it seem diffreent ?16:32
Laruftamarok wasn't upgraded to use kde 4.2 yet.. lol16:32
pestilencecinex: no.  it is "amarok 2", which is a totally different program than the original amarok16:33
Laruftah ok16:33
cinexohhhhhh16:33
Dragnslcrpestilence- well, it's a new version of Amarok, yes16:33
pestilenceDragnslcr: i agree that technically that is true.  but for end users this is false.16:34
pestilenceall user data is gone16:34
beardbarthansk Daskreech that worked the charm16:34
pestilencethis is *not* an upgrade...this is changing the program completely and saying "screw you" to all previous amarok users16:34
DragnslcrI dunno, I don't really use it. Not sure how it handles converting user settings16:34
JontheEchidnayou can import your collection and stuff16:35
beardbaranyone know how to get to the wine folder via dolphin?16:35
pestilenceDragnslcr: it doesn't.16:35
pestilenceJontheEchidna: can you import podcasts?16:35
JontheEchidnadunno16:35
JontheEchidnaI don't really listen to podcasts16:35
* pestilence just realized my rant may need to go into the +1 channel...16:35
Laruftbeardbar, .wine is in home folder16:36
Laruftyou need to enable show hidden files via view menu16:36
beardbarthanks, i thought so, i guess im just dumb and cant find the settings for that in dolphin though :(16:38
Daskreechbeardbar: alt+>16:38
Daskreechalt+.16:38
Daskreechsorry16:38
Daskreechall hidden files start with a .16:38
Daskreechso it's easy to remember16:38
DaskreechLaruft: Space16:38
MarfiIs KDE-looks down? I keep getting a weird message16:38
Laruftalt and dot key16:39
Laruftspace?? lol16:39
DragnslcrMarfi- http://www.kde-look.org/ works for me16:40
beardbarawsome, thanks guys16:40
Laruftworks here too16:40
DaskreechLaruft: they are moving to all KDE4 apps to save sapce16:41
Laruftah right I see16:41
Laruft<< n00b lol16:41
DaskreechEitherwise they have to ship all of KDE4 libraries and support apps and all of KDE3 libraries and support apps16:42
DaskreechSort of like when Gnome went to GNOME2 and Gnucash refused to move16:42
Daskreechso they had to hsip GNOME1 for years just so people could use GnuCash16:43
Daskreechship16:43
Laruftso no implications using kde3 apps still, besides having to d/l the support files as they are not on distribution any more16:44
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DaskreechRight16:45
Daskreecha CD can only hold so much16:45
geniiEspecially for a livecd16:45
Marfithanks Dragnslcr16:46
Daskreechword16:46
DragnslcrI thought the KDE4 version of Konversation was almost done?16:47
DaskreechDragnslcr: Not fast enough16:47
DragnslcrThat's too bad, I like Konversation16:48
DragnslcrHaven't tried Quassel yet16:48
BOZGIsn't there a SVN for the KDE4 version?16:49
DaskreechDragnslcr: It may be available in Jackalope once it's done but right now it certainly cannt be shipped as default16:49
DaskreechBOZG: There is a git for the new kernel coming out as well. we aren't shipping that :)16:49
DragnslcrI should try playing around with Quassel before 9.04 comes out16:50
DaskreechIT's in Ibex16:50
Daskreechbut is a good deal nicer for Jackalope16:50
Daskreechthey have been working with Kubuntu to make changes to make it easier to use16:51
BluesKajI'm using jaunty beta and i find it more graphically stable than Intrepid ...I don't like the name "jaunty" much tho :P16:52
MsK`hi16:52
MsK`is there a "quicklaunch icon" plasmoid somewhere ?16:52
jhutchins_wkBluesKaj: So call it Jackalope instead.16:52
DaskreechMsK`: That does what?16:52
MsK`Daskreech, launchs an application16:52
BluesKajjhutchins, that's worse :)16:52
DaskreechMsK`: alt+F2 ?16:52
MsK`Daskreech, not really, it's an icon and when you click on it, it launches an application16:53
DragnslcrMsK`- yes, there is a Quicklaunch widget16:53
DaskreechMsK`: Just drag the app to the panel/desktop16:53
THORTHnew to linux16:53
Dragnslcr(bleh, I still hate how they're using the term "widget")16:53
THORTHstupid question16:53
THORTHhow comes when i download a programme (chat client) it doesnt come up on the desktop?16:54
DragnslcrBluesKaj- do what I do and always use the numbers for versions. It's easier than remembering which name we're on16:54
DaskreechTHORTH: it downloads to ~ or ~/Documents by default16:54
THORTH?16:54
DragnslcrTHORTH- first of all, what program are you downloading? It may be in the official repositories already16:55
DaskreechTHORTH: and which chat program are you downloading ?16:55
BluesKajDragnslcr, yeah, good point :)16:55
THORTHokay16:55
THORTHDragnslcr:  bitchx16:55
Daskreech!info bitchx16:55
ubottuPackage bitchx does not exist in intrepid16:55
MsK`Daskreech, ok, an icon appeared on my desktop but I can't managed to put it in the taskbar, is there some trick for that ?16:55
THORTH??16:55
DragnslcrTHORTH- what browser are you using? I know Firefox by default always saves downloads to some annoying directory16:55
THORTHok well irrisi?16:55
DaskreechMsK`: drag it to the taskbar?16:55
THORTHNice client16:55
THORTHfirefox16:56
MsK`Daskreech, doesn't work, the icon stays behind the taskbar !16:56
DragnslcrHuh, bitchx isn't in the repository?16:56
THORTHI use firefox or the one free with kubuntu16:56
Daskreech!info irssi | THORTH16:56
ubottuTHORTH: irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.12-4ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 1056 kB, installed size 2908 kB16:56
THORTHhrm ok16:56
DaskreechDragnslcr: File a bug :)16:56
THORTHwell this konversation client sucks lol16:56
DaskreechTHORTH: what version of Kubuntu are you on ?16:57
DragnslcrUgh, I still can't stand the KDE4 version of Adept. The search is horrible16:57
DaskreechTHORTH: It's well liked :)16:57
THORTHOh16:57
THORTHlol16:57
DaskreechDragnslcr: Yeah16:57
THORTHYou cant even run it on two nets?16:57
DragnslcrTHORTH- apparently Quassel is a good IRC client16:57
DaskreechTHORTH: of course you can16:57
THORTHyou can?16:57
DragnslcrI assume Konversation supports multiple networks16:57
THORTHHRM16:57
DaskreechDragnslcr: Curerntly I'd say interesting client16:57
DaskreechTHORTH: press F216:58
THORTHokay i'll try16:58
THORTH:S16:58
THORTHLOl16:58
THORTHok16:58
THORTHty16:58
Daskreechyah16:58
THORTHahaha16:58
THORTHsorry16:58
THORTH:P16:58
MsK`okay ! finally did it ! I had to put between the clock and the tray...16:58
DaskreechMsK`: :-)17:00
DaskreechMsK`: you can click the cashew at the end of the panel and drag it anywhere you want17:01
DaskreechIt puts the panel in edit mode17:01
MsK`Daskreech, yup, but it disables the menu where the icon comes from, and if you click the desktop, it disables that, so it wasn't that simple, at least with my current configuration ^^17:02
ScorpKinggreetings Daskreech :)17:02
Daskreechhi ScorpKing17:03
DragnslcrI still highly recommend my Quicklaunch setup17:03
DragnslcrPut it in an auto-hiding panel on the left edge of the screen17:03
DaskreechDragnslcr: You highly recommend it for you :)17:04
MsK`oh, and something else17:04
DragnslcrHehe17:04
MsK`is it possible to hide applications from the taskbar that are not minimized ?17:04
MsK`(well, to only show in the taskbar the apps that are minimized)17:05
DragnslcrI did say recommend, not should-be-forced-on-every-user17:05
DragnslcrI think so17:05
DaskreechI doubt it17:05
DragnslcrRight-click the task bar and go to settings17:05
Dragnslcr"Only show tasks that are minimized" at the bottom17:05
DaskreechOh17:06
Daskreechonly minimized17:06
Daskreechok17:06
Daskreechdon't always get caught by no double negatives17:06
epWhere is there wiki or FAQ for installing libdvdcss2 on kubuntu?  I've used adept package manager to add multiverse repository but that didn't help.17:07
Daskreech!dvd17:07
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:07
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MsK`KDE3 was easy to use and full featured, KDE4 has even more features but definitely needs a lot of ergonomy tests...17:09
MsK`I can't access the task bar settings, but I already gone there today...17:09
DragnslcrMsK`- did you lock the panel?17:10
MsK`locked and unlocked again, I'm trying everything ^^17:10
DragnslcrNothing happens when you right-click the task bar?17:11
MsK`oh yes, I have a handful of menus17:11
MsK`none of them is the one I want ^^17:11
Daskreechytou have to rigth click the taskbar not the apps17:11
Daskreechoh here is an easy waty17:11
DragnslcrYou don't get "Task Manager Settings"?17:11
Daskreech put it in edit mode then right click the taskbar17:11
MsK`it moves the taskbar17:12
puddlelol Daskreech your right lol thanks17:13
puddlehaha didnt even realise all it was down to was f >>217:13
puddlehehe17:13
MsK`ok, I think that in few minutes I will download kubuntu x64 hardy to get a beautiful KDE 3 ! :]17:14
MsK`(is it possible to have KDE3 with intrepid ? I mean, right from the beginning to avoid having KDE3 and 4 on the same system...)17:14
geniiMsK`: Since kde3 is not shipped with versions after Hardy, no17:14
MsK`ok so go for hardy and I will update when KDE4 will be usable and finished17:15
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XKiLL3RHi aLL17:15
XKiLL3RAny1 can help ?17:15
puddlehii17:15
puddlethat rules me out17:16
XKiLL3Rhi puddle17:16
puddlehi17:16
XKiLL3Ri have problem ...17:16
geniiXKiLL3R: We need to know your problem first before help can begin17:16
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XKiLL3Rgenii sure17:16
puddleDaskreech:  is an eintelligent guy17:16
geniimccoy20: Stop with the nick spamming please17:16
puddleask him he might know17:16
MsK`Wow ! finally got it !17:16
MsK`right clicking on the taskbar on a desktop with less windows opened helped...17:17
Daskreechone moment17:17
XKiLL3Ri have downloaded kubuntu 8.10 , burn it to a cd then try to install it like "inside windows" and after restart when i try to login 4 it it gives me a blank screen17:17
MsK`ok, there isn't any "Only show tasks that are minimized"17:17
XKiLL3RI've tried it like a live cd too and it doesn't work17:17
XKiLL3Rubuntu give same problem17:17
XKiLL3Rit's 64bit17:17
DragnslcrMsK`- what version of KDE?17:18
MsK`I only have "show tasks of the current desktop" and "show tasks of the current screen"17:18
MsK`4.1 I think17:18
XKiLL3Rgenii u got it ?17:18
MsK`the version from intrepid with latest updates17:18
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DragnslcrHm, maybe it's only in 4.2 then17:18
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puddlegrrrrrrr17:18
DragnslcrI've been using 4.2 since it was released17:18
geniiXKiLL3R: Yes, we see your question now17:18
DragnslcrQuite an improvement over 4.117:18
MsK`you compiled it yourself or is there a kubuntu repository ?17:19
XKiLL3Rgenii k Thx ,,, waitin 4 ur help :)17:19
MsK`I have universe, multiverse and main enabled17:19
DragnslcrMsK`- link is in the channel topic17:19
MsK`(wow, multi and universe by default ? that's new)17:19
DragnslcrI think you have to enable backports17:19
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MsK`ok, I'll read that then17:20
DragnslcrThink it's called "Unsupported updates" in Adpet17:20
MsK`I don't use adept ^^17:20
DragnslcrHeh17:21
MsK`are you in jaunty or in intrepid + backports ?17:21
DragnslcrI always try to answer questions with the graphical solutions. Doing my small part to get rid of the Linux-requires-shell mentality17:21
DragnslcrI'm on 8.10 still. I don't usually try the version betas. Plus I need to reinstall when 9.04 comes out so I can set up RAID17:22
Daskreechok abck17:22
MsK`Dragnslcr, ok and no bugs so far ?17:23
DaskreechMsK`: what?17:23
MsK`(how far actually ? ^^ since when are you using 4.2 ?)17:23
DaskreechMsK`: click the cashew at the end then right click the task manager17:24
MsK`Daskreech, I'm going to enable backports to upgrade to KDE 4.217:24
DragnslcrI've been using 4.2 since the day it was officially released17:24
Daskreechit will ignore all other menus and give you only the configuration menu for that plasmoid and the panel17:24
MsK`Daskreech, I don't have the option you told me in this version of KDE17:24
DragnslcrI've seen a few stray rendering bugs, but nothing that makes it unusable17:24
DaskreechMsK`: ok KDE 4.2 :)17:25
DaskreechMsK`: KDE 4.2.0 is in Unsupported updates in Dept17:25
DaskreechIf you want 4.2.1,2,3 etc the link is in the topic17:26
MsK`Daskreech, Dragnslcr already explained that but thanks ^^17:26
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DaskreechMsK`: Yeah going through the backlog so just catching up17:26
DaskreechXKiLL3R: you installed it inside of windows ?17:27
MsK`http://lywenn.eu.org/duh < that doesn't seem right for an update from KDE 4.1 to 4.2, don't you think ?17:30
DaskreechMsK`: Umm where are you getting that from?17:30
MsK`from my shell ^^17:31
MsK`sorry I forgot one step in the process17:31
belealхай всем17:31
Daskreech!ru17:31
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke17:31
MsK`ok I also need to add the "recommended updates"17:32
MsK`oh, it's already enabled...17:32
MsK`well, let's update and see...17:38
walbertHey guys, I have an old nvidia card on my laptop which causes nvidia's proprietary drivers to crash every time the operating system tries to resume from a suspend to memory/or/disk.  How can I configure Kubuntu to just shut down when it encounters low battery / lots of idle time, rather than trying to suspend?17:38
josh-lhi folks, can anyone help me figure out how to get the gimpi toolbar to appear in the kde panel?17:41
Daskreechwhat is gimpi?17:44
josh-lsorry typo, meant gimp17:45
DaskreechI was hoping that wasn't what you meant :)17:46
Daskreechhuh?17:46
josh-lwhy17:46
Daskreechyou want the gimp toolbar embedded in the KDE panel?17:46
josh-lDaskreech: not embedded just to show up as a normal window does in the taskmanager17:47
Daskreechjosh-l: Oh Umm.. it doesn't? isn't GImp 3 independent windows?17:50
Daskreech or did they change that in the last update?17:50
josh-lDaskreech: dunno but installing gimp on jaunty gives me gimp 2.6.617:50
Daskreechjosh-l: I'd pop into #gimp and ask if that's still the case I recall they were changing the window model17:52
josh-lok thx17:53
josh-ltried #kde no answer17:53
DaskreechIT may just be that the toolbar isn't a window anymore17:53
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josh-lDaskreech: perfect got it from #gimp, just needed to change window management window hint settings in gimp17:56
josh-lpreferences17:56
MsK`ok, this just seems to be 10 times better ! :D17:59
MsK`(the only bad thing for the moment is the ugly wallpaper ^^')17:59
MsK`woohoo, desktop switching with the mousewheel is back !18:00
MsK`ok, "only show tasks that are minimized" is there but doesn't work :|18:01
DragnslcrSeems to work right for me18:02
MsK`oh ! I think I know what's happening18:02
DaskreechNothing is minimized!18:04
MsK`^^18:04
MsK`no, I don't know what happened exactly, but it acted like there were two taskbars one on top of the other18:05
MsK`I removed one, and there wasn't another one behind...18:05
MsK`I added one again, and now it works18:05
DaskreechMsK`: Two panels maybe ?18:05
Daskreechdunno18:05
tom_checking whether i'm on.......18:07
geniitom_: Yes, you're here and visible18:07
tom_thanks :)18:08
tom_why are there so many people in this 'room' and nobody is speaking?18:08
Daskreechtom_: It's for support when support is needed questions come followed by answersd18:10
Daskreechwhen no support is needed there is no need to talk18:10
josh-lanyone use stasks for your panel? what do you think about expanding option? I like it, but wish it was somehow more intuitive... its a bit of a pain to get to windows when they expand18:10
tom_i have a question; when you join another server, does it matter what port you are connecting through?18:11
Daskreechtom_: Yes you have to join on the port the server is expecting18:12
telemarketerhi everbody18:13
telemarketeris this a good place to ask some questions about kubuntu linux ?18:14
MsK`ok, it doesn't show tasks that aren't minimized, but it doesn't show tasks that are minimized either \o/18:14
Daskreechtelemarketer: Yes it is18:14
MsK`I'm not that sure :)18:14
DaskreechMsK`: logout press alt+e and log abck in I think your X server wasn't restarted18:15
tom_i just tried to join a server and when i typed, for example "hello" it would reply "hello: unknown command"18:15
MsK`oh yes it was restarted, when I logged out it crashed and I pressed ctrl alt backspace ^^18:15
Daskreechtom_: maybe whatever you were connecting to wasn't expecting a hello ?18:16
Daskreechwhat protocol?18:16
DaskreechMsK`: so you have an empty taskbar?18:17
telemarketercool........I'm a slackware/kde user myself, and I'm trying to help someone with a desktop in a motel with free wifi get online and I couldn't get the wifi card to work with slackware, I was wondering about how friendly kubuntu might be towards wifi18:17
phoenixzWhat package do I need to have installed to have the new wifi plasma widget in kubuntu 9.04?18:17
MsK`Daskreech, when I minimize everything ? yes18:17
Daskreechtelemarketer: Depeends on the wifi card :)18:17
Daskreech!wifi | telemarketer18:18
tom_i really dont understand all of this, i feel like i need to read a tutorial or something about IRC18:18
ubottutelemarketer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:18
Daskreechphoenixz: It's installed by default ntwork manager18:18
phoenixzDaskreech: I upgrded from 8.10 to 9.04 beta and there is no widget available anywhere.. :(18:19
telemarketerumm......it's a enlwi-g2 pci wifi card I just bought......I got it going in windoze Xtra Pants for her18:19
DaskreechMsK`: How did you minimize all ?18:19
Daskreechtelemarketer: Should be ok then Follow the steps in the page ubottu sent you18:19
MsK`pressing the \/ button at the top right of the window18:20
Daskreechphoenixz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?18:20
DaskreechMsK`: works here for me18:20
telemarketerthey manufacturer of that card has a driver for that card tar.gz and I unpacked it and tried to install the drivers but couldn't make it work18:20
jeltschI have a big problem with Kubuntu Jaunty Beta. The X server often freezes. So far, this happens only when windows are opened. I’m using an ATI radeon on board chip.18:20
MsK`there is several bugs in this for the moment, all the icons of the traybar disappeared for a while18:20
jeltschHas anyone experienced something similar?18:20
MsK`the tray bar was as wide as needed but empty, I was clicking everywhere to get the icons back and it suddenly appeared again18:21
DaskreechMsK`: traybar? you mean the system tray?18:21
MsK`hmm, I don't like the idea but I will try a reboot18:21
MsK`Daskreech, yes, sorry18:21
tom_is it okay that i'm running konversation on ubuntu rather than kubuntu?18:21
DaskreechMsK`: Ha ha sweet I didn't know you could do that before18:22
DaskreechRight clicked on a set of grouped windows and restored them all18:22
DaskreechOf course they disappeared from the taskba18:22
Daskreechtom_: IT's fine18:22
telemarketerslackware/KDE has KwifiManager but doesn't work......I'm just wondering what the success rate of wifi has been with kubuntu or ubuntu users, especially if anyone has an ENCORE pci wifi card18:22
tom_thanks18:22
Daskreechtelemarketer: I can't speak specific to that card but if you do a search for the card anem and ubuntu you should find a fair number of references18:23
Daskreechgenii: Kinda funny that Msk`'s login name is troll18:24
telemarketeryeah, good idea dakreech......I guess I should burn an .iso of the latest kubuntu and just try it on her machine.....18:24
telemarketerbrb18:24
MsK`okay, it's a bug !18:24
geniiDaskreech: Yes, i thought so as well :)18:24
DaskreechMsK`: is it replicable ?18:26
telemarketerI see on the kubuntu download page that 8.10 is called an 'installer'....is it not also a LiveCD like hardy heron ?18:26
MsK`Daskreech, well, it never fails here but I don't know the conditions to replicate it :/18:27
DaskreechMsK`: make a new user and see if they have the same thing happen18:27
DaskreechIf so it's probably just a setting in your config that's off18:27
jackdaxterhy guys!18:28
MsK`that may be the reason but it still shouldn't happen :)18:28
Daskreechtelemarketer: There is alternate CD that is simply and installer and a Desktop CD that's a live CD and a installer18:28
jackdaxteri have a macbook pro unibody, but audio doesn't work on kubuntu 8.10! can somebody help me?18:28
tom_what's the purpose of the tab called 'Ubuntu IRC'?18:28
MsK`and I'm not in the mood to create a dummy user on my fresh new computer and fresh new install...18:28
DaskreechMsK`: Given the power that users have in playing with their config I think saying it should never happen is asking a lot18:29
Daskreechtom_: That's the server you are connected to18:29
DaskreechIf you close that all the rooms on the server are closed as well18:29
jackdaxteri'm the only macbook owner here?18:30
Daskreechif you join another server it gets it's own tab18:31
tom_is there a way to browse servers?18:32
Daskreechtom_: no18:34
tom_so you're supposed to join a server that you've had previous knowledge of, like from another website?18:35
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Daskreechtom_: precisely18:35
jackdaxtersomebody help meeeeeeeee!18:35
tom_ty18:36
XKiLL3RHi all18:36
Daskreechjackdaxter: You haven't asked a question yet18:36
XKiLL3Rany1 got a solution 4 my problem ?18:37
XKiLL3Rgenii18:37
XKiLL3R...18:37
jackdaxterDaskreech: i have already asked, aniway....... i have no audio on kubuntu 8.10 on macbook pro unibody18:37
puddlewhats the command to install something? You type the url first?18:38
puddle??18:38
XKiLL3RAnyone can Help me ?18:38
puddlenot anyone18:38
puddleBut someone might18:38
puddle:L18:38
XKiLL3R:D18:38
puddlei need help to lol ><18:39
XKiLL3R:D18:39
XKiLL3Ri need help :S18:39
puddleyou new to linux?18:39
XKiLL3Rnope18:39
puddleah18:39
puddle><18:39
XKiLL3Rhave tried ubuntu 2 years ago :D18:39
puddleDude18:39
puddlei'm a windows user.18:39
puddleNot anymore18:39
XKiLL3Rbut when i got my new pc i got vista18:39
XKiLL3Ryea me 2 but i am gonna go for linux nw :D18:39
puddle?18:39
puddlesame i swapt it for kubuntu.18:39
XKiLL3Ryup18:40
puddleand i finally got this machine online :D18:40
XKiLL3Rbut kubuntu won't install 2 my pc !18:40
XKiLL3Rgood18:40
puddlelol why not? Ins18:40
puddlelol why not? *18:40
XKiLL3R:D18:40
XKiLL3Rdun know :S18:40
XKiLL3Rit gives me blank screen :S18:40
puddleDownload powerISO and then to the kubuntu site18:40
puddlegrab a disk18:40
XKiLL3Ri18:41
XKiLL3R*i've18:41
XKiLL3Rburned it wiz ultraiso18:41
XKiLL3Rand burn it18:41
puddleAnd then just boot it. And if you want to install it when you load the kernal just press install i think18:41
XKiLL3Ri've do this already18:41
puddleXKiLL3R: dude ISO is better. Trust me. :)18:41
XKiLL3Rpuddle it's workin dun worry18:41
puddlesorry i felt clever then. About the only think i know18:41
puddlelol18:41
XKiLL3Rbut i dun know why it gives me blank screen18:41
XKiLL3R:D18:42
puddle?18:42
XKiLL3Rafter booting to it18:42
XKiLL3Rit gives me blank18:42
puddleWill it load?18:42
XKiLL3Rnope :S18:42
XKiLL3Rwhen i choose install or try kubuntu18:42
XKiLL3Rthe loading bar appears18:42
puddleAh not sure then? Perhaps you should try a different disk? check for marks and scratches18:42
XKiLL3Rafter it's done it gives a blank screen :S18:43
XKiLL3Rtried ubuntu 8.10 too18:43
puddleOr i would suggest use a different disk one with the correct amount of memory. Install ISO and go from there :S18:43
XKiLL3Rpuddle ?18:43
puddlealso i would advise keep windows :S18:43
XKiLL3Ryea windows is the best18:43
puddlei have not tried ubuntu XKiLL3R18:44
XKiLL3Rbut i dun have enough money to buy18:44
puddleNo XKiLL3R it is not18:44
XKiLL3Rwindows is the bst system @ least for me :D18:44
XKiLL3Rbut no money for that18:44
puddleinstall kubuntu on your hardrive and keep vista on disk. Im serious thats what i'll do,18:44
puddleXp is better anyways :P18:44
XKiLL3R:D18:44
XKiLL3RWindows 7 is a killer :D18:44
puddleTrust me linux is how you make it.18:44
XKiLL3Ri am runing it nw18:44
puddleWindows 7 isnt realiesed yet ?18:45
XKiLL3RRC 118:45
puddle3 months i think?18:45
puddleah18:45
XKiLL3Ri am confused18:45
puddlexp pro is better than vista im not sure about windows 718:45
XKiLL3Ri am trying to install linux 4 about 2 weeks :S18:45
puddlei will try it when my mates get it.18:45
puddleI will still there disk18:45
seoneohello18:45
XKiLL3Rno no Windows 7 = Vista + XP18:45
puddlei'll just say put this on disk for me xD18:45
XKiLL3Ri need a helpppppppp18:45
XKiLL3Rbe right back18:46
puddleXKiLL3R:  all you need is xp pro and kubuntu xD18:46
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puddle_ffs18:46
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beardbaranyone play eve online?18:52
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eagles0513875jussi01: O_O18:55
MsK`which package should I install to have glu.h with the nvidia proprietary drivers ?18:56
MsK`libglu1-mesa-dev or something else ?18:57
demmonsu: Authentication failure???18:59
demmonhelp18:59
MsK`sudo -s18:59
demmonThe setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.719:02
demmonso??19:02
seoneohello, I have a problem with Kubuntu 8.10 64bit and dual monitor. I use a acer aspire 2930 and I plug a LG 22252S to it. I can't find a way to see both the screen with a "good" resolution. I tried to use rdesktop but it is really limited and not working so good. I also have sometimes a problem booting plugging the second monitor. X stop working and I can see just a blank screen instead of the login panel. May you please help me and let me k19:02
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s4crificehi everyone.... :-) Ehm, I'm amateur, so I'm asking - do somebody knows where I can find the source for the Opera? Google found one nonworking....19:13
Laruftseoneo i think dual screen has been updated in the latest beta19:13
jussi01s4crifice: opera is closed afaik19:13
seoneoLaruft: so do you suggest me to upgrade to 9.04?19:13
Laruftyes19:13
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seoneois the alternative dvd supporting filesystem full encryption like the 8.10 do?19:14
Laruftwell for kubuntu yes, I found kde4.1 had various bugs and problems19:14
Larufti like the 9.04 beta, kde4.2 is great19:14
jussi01s4crifice: it means that the source is unavailble as its a comercial product.19:14
seoneothank you very much. I'll take a look and if it is full hard disk encryption compatible I'll upgrade it :D isn't it possible to do the upgrade from apt-get isn't it?19:15
seoneohave I to download the new DVD iso and install from scratch19:15
Laruftseoneo : remember 9.04 is a beta, but I think the bug fixes and kde improvements are worth it19:15
Laruftjust need the cd iso19:15
seoneook, thank you very much19:16
LaruftI would install from scratch, but i'm a n00b lol19:16
seoneoI'll take a look and check if it is possible to just upgrade it19:16
Laruftupdate-manager-kde try that19:17
jussi01s4crifice: please use the channel not pm ;)19:17
Laruftok i need some help with quassel, how do I export the logs from the sqlite file?19:17
s4crificejussi01: sorry.... :-) So, is there any similar browser?19:17
Larufts4crifice: i've just installed firefox... konquerer wouldn't display some pages correctly19:18
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s4crificeyeah i know firefox very well, but i miss there the dial up (not the most important...) and the password manager which was in Opera perfect....19:18
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coffeebah19:19
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fu1therbah19:19
Laruftthats a point i wonder if kdewallet would handle passwords for firefox??19:20
s4crificeAruft: yeah i know firefox very well, but i miss there the dial up (not the most important...) and the password manager which was in Opera perfect....19:20
picketfenceMe again.19:20
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danielsantosI have a question about partitions and linux's OS. Is it true that the root partitions of the linux's OS has to be in the begginning of the disk.19:20
danielsantosFor example, i have 5 linux root partitions in the beggining of my hard disk, and then i have a huge partition only dedicated to documents (and on the end i have a swap partition). So, when i want to add another linux OS i have to resize my documents partition, which takes a lot of time, and then i do the logical partition for my new OS.19:20
danielsantosCan't i make the OS partitions in the end of the disk? will it give problems to the pc or will the OS be detected?19:20
danielsantosso that when i do to take some free space from the huge documents partition for my new linux, it is easier to resize and less time consuming.19:20
danielsantosThanks people19:21
s4crificeLaruft: in fact, if there's a way how to install opera, i'll be happier than use firefox....19:21
picketfenceEvery time I put Java in my PATH it stays as long as I have a terminal working. The moment I exit out, the path reverts to default. Is there any way to stop this?19:21
ockonalhi all19:21
DashkalWhere does jockey-kde (Restricted Drivers) get its information?  I have to PCs with what I thought were identical repository configurations.  One saw the newest nvidia drivers (180) but this one doesn't.19:21
picketfenceEvery time I put Java in my PATH it stays as long as I have a terminal working. The moment I exit out, the path reverts to default. Is there any way to stop this?19:22
ockonalI have a question: i've updated to 9.04.. now i need to install my video-card drivers. INstaller need in linux-headers linux-headers-2.6.27-14, but there isn't this package in repo19:23
ockonalWhere i can find that package?19:23
Larufts4crifice:  i'd have thought sudo apt-get install opera would work, but it doesn't.... Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.19:24
LaruftThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or19:24
Laruftis only available from another source19:24
ockonalLaruft; https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/2.6.27-14.30 at this page there is source... but i don't know what i may do with them19:25
picketfenceEvery time I put Java in my PATH it stays as long as I have a terminal working. The moment I exit out, the path reverts to default. Is there any way to stop this?19:25
danielsantospic, to add directories to your shell's search path temporarily, modify its PATH variable. ex: PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin19:26
s4crificeLaruft: doesn't work... ehm, maybe download the deb package? then it's without updating, or not?19:27
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Laeborg!fpd19:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fpd19:29
Laeborg*ftpd19:29
Laeborg!ftpd19:29
ubottuFTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP19:29
Laeborg!guiftpd19:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about guiftpd19:29
LaruftI haven't a clue about getting opera working in kubuntu... i'm googling as I expect you are too19:30
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s4crificethere's written that if i download the DEB package, it will work, but without updating... but it's the solution :-)19:30
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Larufts4crifice: http://www.opera.com/browser/download/19:32
Larufttried that?19:32
Laruftlol19:32
s4crificebut on ubuntu pages says that the updating doesn't work exactly and it has a problem with codes19:33
Laruftthats for ubuntu 8.10 tho hmm19:33
Laruftre: link19:33
ockonalCan i download older kernel?19:34
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g01phow do you install a programme through Konsole programme?19:40
g01pWhat command is used to do this action anybody know ??19:41
DragnslcrUsually apt-get19:41
g01psudo install website?19:41
noreng01p: sudo apt-get install <software>19:41
White_Pelicanapt-get install "program name"19:41
g01pah yes apt install19:41
White_Pelicanoops forgot the sudo hehe19:41
g01pok thanks all :)19:41
g01plol19:41
g01p:)19:41
josh-lanyone know where plasma widget files are located?19:41
* g01p sips tea19:41
norenanyone knows here how to unrar multipart rar files wen i dont have all the rar part files19:42
norenjosh-l: .kde/share/kde4/services19:44
josh-lthanks noren19:44
josh-lnoren: nope not in there19:45
noren/home/[user[/.kde/share/kde4/services19:46
josh-lnoren: yeah i checked... not in there19:46
norenthis is place where all my extra downloaded widgets are19:46
norenany specific are u looking for19:46
josh-lnoren: none of mine are in there... i'm looking for stasks19:47
norentry searching them with search19:47
s4crificeneed help again... :-) Everytime my OOo document is opened, i have a trouble with KMenu which is opened incorrectly, unreadebly, .... somebody knows?19:49
norens4crifice: wat do u mean19:51
phoenixzAnybody has a clue why in 9.04 new plasma widgets don't show in the list to add to the desktop anymore? This is why I can't get the wifi plasma on my deskopt (and without that, I cant use my wifi either)19:51
hameedhi every body19:52
s4crificenoren: It's something like if your graphic card goes crazy... :-) cant subscribe... there's a lot of minilines, i can't see the colours, the fonts,...19:52
norenphoenixz: report in #ubuntu+119:52
XKiLL3Rhey all19:52
geniiphoenixz: 9.04/Jaunty issues in #ubuntu+1    (it is also the #kubuntu+1 channel there)19:53
XKiLL3Rany1 got a solution 4 me19:53
norens4crifice: is that only wen OOo documents or anyother softwares also19:53
norenXKiLL3R: did u ask any question19:53
geniiXKiLL3R: You need someone who is familiar with the Wubi windows installer, no one seems to be around right now for that19:53
XKiLL3Rnoren yea19:53
geniinoren: He did earlier :)19:54
s4crificenoren: just openoffice... and in a moment when it's maximized...when i minimalize the application, the kmenu is fine... :-) It's a stupidity, but small detail i would like to fix....19:54
XKiLL3Rgenii ok tell me about another way19:54
phoenixzgenii: thanks19:55
geniiXKiLL3R: The other way is to do just a regular install of kubuntu by booting up from the install cd/dvd19:55
XKiLL3Rgenii but i already try to boot and install but i can't enter the setup19:55
XKiLL3Ryea i have do this19:55
XKiLL3Rafter loading it bad it gives a blank screen19:56
norenXKiLL3R: check the cd for error19:56
geniiXKiLL3R: You get a blank scren from the livecd when it boots from the cd?19:56
geniiMight need "vga" grub option19:56
XKiLL3Rnoren i've tried to burn it twice19:56
XKiLL3Rfrom a diffrent servers19:57
XKiLL3Rgenii yup19:57
norencheck the md5 checksum of the iso files19:57
XKiLL3Rnoren i've :)19:57
XKiLL3Rtried ubuntu 8.10 too19:58
XKiLL3Rsame problem19:58
XKiLL3R:S19:58
XKiLL3Ronly safe mode works genii19:58
XKiLL3R...19:59
norensafe mode in live cd20:00
XKiLL3Ryea20:00
norencant u start the ubiquity on the desktop from the safe mode20:01
XKiLL3Rstart wt ?20:01
geniiXKiLL3R: When in safe mode.... put in:   nano /boot/grub/menu.lst               and then an editior should open the grub config file. Put at end of line which says something like: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=3125b8f2-6b07-420f-9a9e-d97a8ec4e655 ro quiet splash           the word:  vga      after where it says splash.   Then exit editor with ctrl-x, putting Yes to save file and Enter key to confirm same name to save it as.20:02
geniiThe above works on safe mode of hd install, not on "vga" option manually specified from livecd boot20:02
josh-lare there any kde website design apps?20:03
XKiLL3Rgenii k i will try this , but can u help me in configure the hd formating n staff20:03
geniiXKiLL3R: I am at work right now so expect lots of lag.20:04
XKiLL3Rcuze i dun know much about swap and staff20:04
XKiLL3Rgenii ops20:04
XKiLL3Rok20:04
geniiXKiLL3R: If you just follow the "guided" mode it should be fine20:04
XKiLL3Rguided mode ?20:04
XKiLL3Rwhere is that :D20:04
geniiXKiLL3R: When the installer gets to the part where you tell it where to put your installation on the hard drive, it opens usually the partitioner program, which has what is called a "guided mode" where it makes suggestions where to install, etc etc. In the Wubi (running install from inside Windows) it will be different20:06
XKiLL3RI have windows 7 Installed in C: it's 39GB i wanna format this and change it to linux extension not NTFS (if this would b better)20:06
geniiXKiLL3R: I never use Wubi install so not much help with it. Regular install from booting up the cdrom install I CAN help with20:06
XKiLL3Rok i will use the boot one20:06
demmonhow can i remove a program that i have installed with .deb20:06
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geniidemmon: After you used dpkg to install it, apt-get sees it and you can remove that way20:07
geniiDillizar: : After you used dpkg to install it, apt-get sees it and you can remove that way. also try not to change nickname here immediately after asking a  question20:07
Dillizargenii:  i just double clicked on a .deb file20:07
Dillizarsorry genii20:08
geniiDillizar: use something on commandline then like:   sudo dpkg -r filename.deb          (but use the real filename and make sure if you do: ls         then it sees the file in it's current directory)20:08
Dillizari am trying to uninstall cedega20:09
mroci'm having a slight problem with my screensaver.  when i have compositing enabled, and i try to go back to my desktop from screensaver, the screensaver itself stops and the screen goes all white for ~5s before the desktop becomes visible again.  has anyone heard of this before, and are there any solutions?20:14
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tanjahallo, get some silly trouble - i deleted keyboard layout icon in panel, now i lurked all that gui "adding miniprogramm" and programms, but can't fiind it. Could anyone say, how this programm is called?20:16
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fishmasterhallo, get some silly trouble - i deleted keyboard layout icon in panel, now i lurked all that gui "adding miniprogramm" and programms, but can't fiind it. Could anyone say, how this programm is called?20:26
chronic1If you load the beta...is it a relatively painless apt configuration change to upgrade to the stable when it is released?20:29
noren!sub20:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sub20:30
roBBertoi hope tha someone gets my message in a bottle20:30
Daskreechoooh what's this bottle?20:30
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roBBertothe message is:20:31
roBBertoamarok doesn't read audio cd20:31
roBBertohow can i resolce this?20:31
DaskreechroBBerto: oooh yeah I heard that one20:32
Daskreechgo bang a drum in #amarok :)20:32
dtm_can someone tell me how to port games with ubuntu /msg dtm_20:34
Daskreechport games?20:34
dtm_yes20:34
dtm_i cant get diablo to work20:34
Daskreechas in get ubuntu games working in kubuntu ?20:34
DaskreechOh diablo20:34
Daskreechtried Wine ?20:34
dtm_Wine?20:35
dtm_nope20:35
dtm_Where is that?20:35
Daskreech!wine | dtm_20:35
ubottudtm_: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu20:35
DashkalWhere does the hardware drivers applet get its information?  I have to PCs with what I thought were identical repository configurations.  One saw the newest nvidia drivers (180) but this one doesn't.20:37
otmcould I query somebody that knows perl about 6 lines of script?20:38
Daskreech##perl20:39
otmty20:39
geniiotm: Maybe put it into a pastebin url and ask them in ##perl as Daskreech suggests20:39
otmhow to private message without opening a query tab?20:40
Daskreechdepends on your client20:41
otmkonversation20:41
agahmm /notice nick text should do i think20:42
s4crificedoes anyone use SMplayer?  It writes me an error if i want to rewind the movie... can anybody help me? (translated into english language mistake sounds like: mplayer has ended by mistake, backup rate:1)20:43
cinexdamn festivities...20:43
ikonia^/window move right20:44
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Neremorhello!21:00
Daskreech!hi21:01
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:01
roBBertohello Neremor21:01
roBBerto!hi21:01
Neremoris it possible to set up the normal kmix shortcuts to work with pulseaudio??21:01
roBBertoi love rodrigo_melo!21:01
roBBertoi love jono!21:02
agaok,... now i have an issue... why is mplayer installed? i did not install it, no one touches this computer and my player for .avi files has always been videolan21:02
DaskreechJono loves being loved :)21:03
jonoheh21:03
jonoroBBerto, I love you too :)21:03
Daskreechaga: cause someone installed it21:03
aganow i double click and mplayer jumps... did it came with the last kde update or something?/21:03
roBBerto;)21:03
aganot possible Daskreech... i live alone, my boyfriend knows 0 about computers in general and -100 about linux... so unless the neighbour came and did it while i was working...21:04
Daskreechcall the neighbour21:04
Daskreechor the cat i suspect the cat21:04
Daskreechregardless check your dpkg logs for mplayer to see when it was installed21:04
agai mean it's a nice player but i do not remember i have installed it... i always used videolan and i hate to have a thousand things for the same :S21:06
agais there any way to check when and who installed it?21:06
agaDaskreech: i have a bunny not a cat... maybe it's a hacker ;p (how would i check those logs?)21:06
agai smell a split21:06
Daskreechaga: check your dpkg logs21:07
Daskreechthey should be in /var/log21:07
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k0pp__hey guys im trying to upgrade Perl from 5.8 to 5.10, but apt-get shows it as the current version.  any reccomendations?21:20
eeank0pp__: do you have multiple perl's installed?21:20
eeananyways21:20
k0pp__no21:20
eeanWhy did hibernate disappear as an option from my girlfriends computer?21:21
eeans2disk isn't even installed21:21
eeanbut I didn't want to install it randomly... maybe there's a new way to hibernate?21:21
agai just love my internet provider21:21
zoranaga why? :)21:22
EvaLuaTeany idea what package contains the kickoff plasmoid?21:22
EvaLuaTeor any idea how i could find out which one it is?21:22
eeanEvaLuaTe: apt-cache search kickoff21:23
eean(just an idea :P)21:23
agahmm zoran lately is failing way too much21:23
agajust like hiccups but without any sense... need to go, restart the cable modem, and the router21:23
EvaLuaTeeean: tried that, it doesn't return anything21:23
agathen it all comes back..it wasnt like that a year ago21:23
EvaLuaTeeean: i guess it comes in a package with more plasmoids ...21:23
agai am starting to think it's actually my fault21:24
zoranEvaLuaTe: on what kubuntu? 8.10 or 9.04?21:24
EvaLuaTezoran: 8.1021:24
zoranaga: maybe ;)21:24
zoranEvaLuaTe: one sec21:24
agais there an possibility zoran?21:24
EvaLuaTezoran: it's cool =)21:24
agathat something in my kubuntu is freaking it out?//21:24
zoranaga: few :)21:24
agamind enumerating? just in case :P21:25
zoranEvaLuaTe: that is plasmonoid21:26
zoranaga, really dont know.. can be anything21:26
EvaLuaTezoran: hmm, i can't find that package ...21:26
agait's probably just the company, don't really think anyone is ddosing this poor girl21:27
agajust annoying21:27
EvaLuaTezoran: maybe i'm thinking this the wrong way. so i found a patch for the kickoff app that would add some functionality to it, it's just a couple of lines. how could i add it? i thought of downloading the deb package and then changing the source code in there and reinstall the package, would this work?21:28
zoranEvaLuaTe: i would like to suggest you a plasmoid-lancelot - An alternative launcher menu plasmoid for KD21:28
zoranKDE*21:28
EvaLuaTezoran: i already had a look at that, it's not very configurable though ...21:28
zoranEvaLuaTe: you need source code for that21:29
EvaLuaTezoran: i actually like kickoff, it's perfect, the only annoying thing about it is that it won't show separators. just like i said, i found a patch that would add the separator functionality, i just don't know how to apply/install that ...21:29
zorancan you give me url>?21:30
EvaLuaTeone second21:30
zoranor just name of patch21:30
EvaLuaTezoran: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/293/diff/#index_header21:30
EvaLuaTezoran: or: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=93922421:30
zoranEvaLuaTe: this is too much for me i can't help you with this, sorry :)21:32
EvaLuaTeok then. i found the source code for the kickoff. maybe i can apply the patch and just reinstall it, i hope that'll work :D21:33
EvaLuaTezoran: anyway, thanks for the help, it got me a step further ... =)21:33
jesper_hello, i'm trying to install squeezecenter on kubuntu 8.10 but after having added "deb http://debian.slimdevices.com stable main" adept just ignores that repository!? Any ideas? Thanks21:34
thebeThis kernal requires the following feature not present on the CPU:21:34
cinexHumbug!21:34
thebepae21:34
thebeUnable to load - please use a kernal suitable to your CPU21:34
thebehow could I boot the system now??21:34
thebethis is the error message during booting of ubuntu server21:35
Laeborg!gui ftpd21:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about gui ftpd21:35
Laeborg!ftpd gui21:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ftpd gui21:35
Daskreech!ftpd21:35
ubottuFTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP21:35
thebecould any of you help me21:35
Daskreechthebe: ask your question21:35
agawell... me and my ghost mplayer and super internet connection are going to sleep21:36
agag'night21:36
thebethis kernal requires the following feature not present on the cpu21:36
cinexChristmas: the rape of an idea.21:36
thebepae21:36
thebeunable to load21:36
thebeplease use a kernal suitable to your cpu21:36
thebethis error message appears during booting21:36
thebehow could I boot the system21:37
thebethere is only three booting options: recovery mode, memtest++ and generic21:37
Daskreechrecoverymode21:37
thebeDaskreech will be waiting 4 u21:37
Daskreechthen apt-get install linux-image-generic21:38
Daskreech!info linux-image-generic21:38
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.27.11.14 (intrepid), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB21:38
EvaLuaTeany idea how i could download a folder from a svn repository?21:38
thebeare u telling me or to whom?? Hello daskreech21:39
henry_BR I'm using Kubuntu and I'm trying to make PyOpenGL works... But a simple code already doesn't work! The code is here: http://rafb.net/p/XV30Os36.html . Anyone can help me? I have installed mesa... glut3.. freeglut...21:40
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jesper_hello again, i'm trying to install squeezecenter on kubuntu 8.10 but after having added "deb http://debian.slimdevices.com stable main" adept just ignores that repository!? Any ideas? Thanks21:41
thebeHello Daskreech!!21:43
Daskreechhi21:43
thebehow could i get the solution??21:44
DaskreechEvaLuaTe: tried svn >21:44
Daskreech?21:44
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Daskreechjesper_: run and update close adept then run sudo update-apt-xapian-index21:45
Daskreechthebe: boot to recovery and then install linux-image-generic21:45
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thebeeven if i choose recovery mode during boot option, the same message appears21:46
EvaLuaTeDaskreech: for example if i want to download this whole directory: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/kickoff/core/applicationmodel. , could you please tell me the command i would have to issue?21:47
EvaLuaTewhoops, remove core/applicationmodel. from the end :p21:48
p_quarlesthebe: you apparently installed a version with PAE (which allows extended memory addressing) on a CPU that doesn't support that; you'll need to reinstall, or at least replace the kernel21:49
zoranEvaLuaTe: first install svn21:49
DaskreechEvaLuaTe: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Sources/Using_Subversion_with_KDE21:49
EvaLuaTeit's installed21:49
thebehow could i replace kernel??21:49
thebeNew user in linux!21:49
Daskreechthebe: do you have a live CD ?21:49
p_quarlesthebe: then you'll need to reinstall21:49
Daskreechp_quarles: no he doesn't21:50
zoranthan do: svn checkout "address"21:50
Daskreechassuming thebe is a he21:50
EvaLuaTewait' i think i managed to do it. seems i had to use 'svn co' before the link21:50
EvaLuaTethanks guys21:50
MAMONThey guys21:50
p_quarlesDaskreech: I don't think that's a new user task, but oh well21:50
thebebut how the problem of pae is addressed then?21:50
Daskreechthebe: do you have a live CD ?21:50
MAMONTcan anyone help ? :S21:51
jesper_Daskreech: I'm not sure what "sudo update-apt-xapian-index" did but I still can't see squeezecenter in the adept installer21:51
Daskreech!anyone | MAMONT21:51
ubottuMAMONT: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?21:51
p_quarles!ask | MAMONT21:51
ubottuMAMONT: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:51
thebeya, i hav21:51
thebee21:51
Daskreechthebe: boot up into the live Cd and you can chroot the drive and install whatever you like21:51
dfgsehsdasgashi guys, i try to install kubuntu 8,10 but doesn't get me throught the partition manager..someone can help plz??21:52
slow-motionn821:52
Daskreechjesper_: does apt-cache search squeezec turn up anything ?21:52
Daskreechdfgsehsdasgas: more info21:52
thebeokay, you mean i have to boot from cd and have to installl!21:52
Daskreechthebe: yes you can just install the kernel from the CD21:52
zoranjesper_: add that repo, than run sudo apt-get update21:52
pataroki want to use a bluetooth headset in jaunty has anyone an idea how to enable the scan for audio devices?21:52
jesper_Daskreech: yes, it does...21:52
MAMONTi had some problems with my ubuntu 8.10 fs, so i made fsck, after that i rebooted and it appears there is no /val/lib/gdm. there's no lib in /var at all21:53
Daskreechjesper_: ok then sudo apt-get install squeezecenter21:53
p_quarlesDaskreech: I don't think he knows what chroot means21:53
dfgsehsdasgasanyone?21:53
jesper_zoran: I've already tried that - both in cmdline and in the gui21:53
jesper_Daskreech: Ok, I'21:53
thebeyou are right p_quarles21:53
thebeyou need to tell me then!21:53
Daskreechp_quarles: yes but we can help him through21:53
jesper_*Sorry - I'll try but shouldn't it turn up in the gui as well?21:54
Daskreechjesper_: Maybe adept has a few bugs all centered around adding a new server21:54
Daskreechbut in essence yes it should it hasn't so lets do this instead21:54
Daskreechthebe: where are you speaking to us from now?21:54
MAMONTanyone :S21:54
MAMONTi had some problems with my ubuntu 8.10 fs, so i made fsck, after that i rebooted and it appears there is no /val/lib/gdm. there's no lib in /var at all21:55
Daskreechwhat is in /var ?21:55
geniiA lot of stuff21:55
MAMONTlock log run21:55
goofeyMAMONT: are you looking for an answer as to how it happened or how to fix it?21:56
Daskreechwow21:56
Daskreechthat's a lot of missing stuff21:56
MAMONTto fix it21:56
MAMONTyeah i know :S21:56
MAMONTis there a way to repair it?21:56
Daskreechsounds like time to get a live cd21:56
geniiMaybe look in lost+found directory for the missing stuff21:56
Daskreechyou need to be off the file system to repair it21:56
MAMONTi'm here with liveCD21:56
Daskreechah might be there21:57
Daskreechthebe: you are talking to us from a different machine ?21:57
MAMONTok hold on i'll look in lost+found21:57
goofeyMAMONT: I would make sure your hard drive isn;t failing before you try to fix this (just my opinion)21:57
thebeactually i am installing it in virtual box in kubuntu host os21:58
thebetrying  to install ubuntu server21:58
MAMONTgoofey: what if?21:58
thebeand reinstalling it again21:58
dfgsehsdasgasi am trying to install kubuntu 8,10 in my machine but the partition manager is not detecting my partitions.can someone help me out plz?21:59
Daskreechthebe: h Yeah hardly likely that PSE will work there22:00
DaskreechPAE22:00
Daskreechsince it requires the Physical Address22:00
MAMONThow to get to lost+found?22:00
goofeyMAMONT: what if?  what if what?22:00
Daskreechdfgsehsdasgas: As in it says you have no partitions ?22:00
MAMONTdo i have to make root?22:01
DaskreechMAMONT: If you mount the drive / should have a lost+found directory22:01
zoranMAMONT: use sudo before command that make command to run as root22:01
dfgsehsdasgasDaskreech i already have kubuntu installed but through the live cd i cannot see and select the partition of my choice to install to22:02
MAMONTsudo doesn't work with cd22:02
Daskreechdfgsehsdasgas: Ok start over22:02
zoranwork to me22:02
DaskreechMAMONT: Yes it does22:02
Daskreechdfgsehsdasgas: You ahve kubuntu on the hard drive22:02
dfgsehsdasgasDaskreech u mean reboot?22:02
thebethen if it does not work, what could i do??22:02
Daskreechhow many partitions ?22:02
geniizoran: On livecd he should likely be root already22:02
MAMONTwhen i type sudo cd it says comand not found22:03
Daskreechthebe: how muchmemory do you ahve in the VM ?22:03
zorangenii: hmmm, maybe ;022:03
DaskreechMAMONT: why do you need to sudo cd ?22:03
dfgsehsdasgasDaskreech i have 1 home partition, 1 system partition where i install kubuntu, i windows ntfs partition22:03
Daskreechdfgsehsdasgas: no swap?22:03
MAMONTelse it wount let mme in lost+found22:03
DaskreechMAMONT: sudo -i then type cd22:04
dfgsehsdasgasoh yes,i also have swap,sorry...22:04
MAMONTit says i have no permissions22:04
Daskreechdfgsehsdasgas: OK so 4 partitions22:04
MAMONTok22:04
dfgsehsdasgasDaskreech i hope o do not forget any22:04
dfgsehsdasgas:)22:04
Daskreechdfgsehsdasgas: You are on a Live CD now and want to change the partitions ?22:05
dfgsehsdasgasdar22:05
Daskreechdfgsehsdasgas: install gparted22:05
Daskreechbest solution22:05
|PaperTiger|Does anyone happen to know if Creative Zen X-Fi supports Ogg Vorbis files?22:05
dfgsehsdasgasDaskreech i am on live cd, i want to try kubuntu 64 bit by installing it over my existing installation22:05
Daskreechdfgsehsdasgas: ah22:06
MAMONTDaskreech: ok i'm in lost+found22:06
Daskreechgreat :)22:07
Daskreechgenii: help out MAMONT22:07
thebe16GB for this machine22:07
MAMONTDaskreech: and here is some #***** directorys22:07
DaskreechI have to go help someone stranded get home22:07
jesper_Daskreech: thanks, that worked perfectly :)22:07
geniiDaskreech: Unfortunately I have no time right now for support, my other work is needing me too much to be helpful here22:07
Daskreechthebe: hmm I think generic can handle that much memory22:07
Daskreechok :-)22:08
Daskreechp_quarles: can yuo help MAMONT ?22:08
MAMONTplz :))22:08
mshooshtariI need help with networkmanager, specifically the proxy server setup. I'm having difficulties with updates now that our organization has added a proxy server.22:08
thebebut i still did not get what does the physical address extension means22:09
mshooshtarithe kpackagekit FAQ says that it should use networkmanager's proxy settings and prompt, this is not happening however.22:09
MAMONTDaskreech: 10x anyways i'll ask my self :) don't bother 10x22:09
MAMONTyou only tell me who can i ask :)22:10
thebebuilt ltsp chrrot22:10
thebewhat does this mean??22:10
Daskreechchroot22:10
thebesorry, yep chroot22:11
geniiDaskreech: In my bookmarks I have categorised https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/lostfound-recovery-205411/  as useful , mileage may vary22:11
MAMONTgenii: i guess that was addressed 2 me :) i'll take a look 10x22:12
MarfiHey, I am trying to install kubuntu-desktop, but it keeps comming up saying that "recommends <o22:13
MarfiHey, I am trying to install kubuntu-desktop, but it keeps comming up saying that "recommends <package name>, but it is not going to be installed"22:13
MarfiThen it says broken packages. How do I get it to install the packages?22:14
MarfiFigured it out. A package was newer than in the repos, adn that's what messed it up22:15
mot_question: are there any third-party repos that carry nvidia-180-kernel-source greater than 180.11 (which is what is in the official intrepid repos) ?22:17
mot_the latest releast in jaunty is 180.37...i know there have to be third-party repos for intrepid with something closer to that at least, right?22:17
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winterzcan someone help me setup my display resolution?  I have a widescreen monitor, so I want 1680x1050.  but it keeps coming up at lower resolutions.  even though it worked perfectly after installation.  then stopped working perfectly after I logged out.22:30
MAMONTwinterz: what drivers do you have?22:31
MAMONTdisplay drivers22:31
winterzMAMONT: how do I check that?22:31
winterzthe xorg.conf just says "Configured222:32
MAMONTgo to system>administration>hardware drivers and look if there is any restricted drivers22:32
winterzthe xorg.conf just says "Configured Video Device"22:32
MAMONTwinterz: do you know what video card do you have?22:33
winterzMAMONT: says "no proprietary drivers are installed.."22:34
MAMONTwinterz: and you don't know which card you have? (nVidia, ATI)22:34
winterzMAMONT: I think it's some type of Intel.. let me try to get more specifics from lshw22:35
SJrXCrap you mean I can't discuss jaunty in here at all?22:35
domw888!de22:36
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.22:36
trappistSJrX: that's the idea - all you want in #ubuntu+1 though22:36
winterzMAMONT: Intel 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller22:37
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MAMONTwinterz: where you're trying to set resolution from?22:38
winterzMAMONT: first I tried using systemsettings->display22:38
winterzMAMONT: but that doesn't list 1680x1150 as an option22:38
winterzMAMONT: then I started to hand-edit xorg.conf22:39
SJrXAre there any utilities or wrappers for nvidia-settings that allow me to automate it?22:39
MAMONTwinterz: try from prefences>screen resolution22:39
winterzMAMONT: but I thought better of the idea and came here instead22:39
XKiLL3RHey22:42
winterzwhere would I find preferences->screen resolution MAMONT?22:42
XKiLL3Rgenii: u still here ?22:42
MAMONTsystem>preferences>screen resolution :) sorry22:43
XKiLL3Rinstalling kubuntu = done , but nw i can't change resolution or refresh rate22:43
XKiLL3Rit's just 800X600 and refresh rate = 6122:44
XKiLL3Rbest view 4 me is 1024X768 and refresh rate = 8522:44
XKiLL3Rany 1 can help about that ?22:44
XKiLL3R:S22:45
mshooshtariI'm usuing Jaunty as well, but there is only ubuntu+1 not kubuntu+1 so if the issue is KDE specific it's either here or SOL.22:46
XKiLL3Rhelp !!!22:49
mshooshtariXKiLL3R: http://www.opensuse.org/en/22:53
mshooshtaria darn good KDE implementation22:53
winterzis there a way to force kubuntu to rescan my hardware? maybe it didn't accurately figure out my display driver?22:54
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sebsebseb 23:02
Haza_Evening folks. Im running 8.10 KDE 4.2 on my laptop. I don't think that sound is working fully. Output seems okay but not mic input. How can i go about debugging the issue?23:04
EloneHaza_, open Mixer enable all the channel and try different Capture check box23:05
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Haza_Hmm, okay, ive found Internal Mic23:08
Haza_That was set to 0, Turning it up provides sound feedback.23:09
Haza_Im guessing this is it23:09
Szadekhello all .... i have a question , is it possible to use different styles per aplication ?? for example , using qtcurve only on firefox and the rest of the applications use oxygen for example ?? any help woud be aprecciated =) .23:15
whaskesvan itt magyar?23:20
BluesKaj!hu23:20
ubottuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál23:20
gimox!it23:22
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)23:22
stepnem!zh23:34
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk23:34
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XKiLL3RHelp !!!23:53
XKiLL3Rgenii u r here ?!23:54
XKiLL3Rany1 here 2 help ?23:54
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