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JonChargeCan any one here set importance?00:09
JonChargeAmpelbein, ping00:14
AmpelbeinJonCharge:00:14
JonChargehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/apt/+bug/35107600:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 351076 in xserver-xorg-input-aiptek "Package xserver-xorg-input-aiptek does not install (Januty beta)" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:14
JonChargeSuggest medium00:15
JonChargeAnd the bug I think has enough information for a dev to start working on it.00:15
Ampelbeinlooking00:15
AmpelbeinJonCharge: why medium? i would set it to low, it's an unsual hardware.00:18
JonChargeIt meets two of the criteria for medium I think.00:19
JonChargeA bug that has a severe impact on a non-core application.00:19
JonChargeA problem with a non-essential hardware component (network card, camera, webcam, music player, sound card, power management feature, printer, etc.)00:19
JonChargeBut I defer to your judgement.00:19
JonChargeYou are more experienced. :)00:19
JonChargeWhen I looked at     * Bugs/Importance00:20
JonChargeI'll go with low if that is what you want to do.00:21
AmpelbeinJonCharge: you could also argument that it meets two criteria for low: uncommon hardware and usability issue.00:21
JonChargeAh...00:21
JonChargeYour right.00:21
Ampelbeini think we should not discuss to deeply about importance.00:21
JonChargeOk00:21
JonChargeI'm new at this.00:22
JonCharge:)00:22
AmpelbeinJonCharge: no problem, thanks for helping ;-)00:22
JonChargeAnytime.00:22
AmpelbeinJonCharge: another thing: launchpad uses tags to identify some issues. there is a tag "packaging" which would apply here.00:22
Ampelbeinsee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags00:23
JonChargetagged, and I'll read that doc00:24
Ampelbeinand if you use pgp/mime we won't see your pgp-signature on the comments ;-) (just cosmetical)00:24
JonChargeI'll do that.  Do you know how to keep the commands out of the comments?00:24
AmpelbeinJonCharge: don't know. but they don't cause harm.00:29
JonChargeok00:29
Ampelbeini've set it to triaged/medium, following your suggestion.00:30
JonChargeok00:30
Ampelbeinthanks for your work.00:30
JonChargeNo problem :)00:30
JonChargeI have applied to the bug control team, should hear back shortly I think.00:32
AmpelbeinJonCharge: have you already sent a mail with your application?00:40
JonChargeAmpelbein, yes, I have...00:45
AmpelbeinJonCharge: found it already, commenting a bit.00:46
JonChargeoh ok, I was about to link it00:46
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AmpelbeinJonCharge: wrote a reply, sadly i can't give a +1 yet. please read my comments and the documentation provided again.01:04
JonChargeI will, and thank you for the feedback.01:05
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torkianohello all, can someone help me triaging bug #34470504:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 344705 in openjdk-6 "IcedTea Plugin Doesnt Work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34470504:59
torkianoIs needed more info?04:59
dholbachgood morning06:14
YoBoYhi06:38
thekorngood morning bugsquad07:35
dominiksmorning bugsquad08:50
dominiksbug 98626 was closed in Debian 3 days ago.. how long does it take for LP to reflect status changes of bugs in remote watch please?08:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 98626 in checkstyle "please add command line program" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9862608:52
xhochyCould I please get a wishlist importance for bug 351427 ?08:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 351427 in gnome-control-center "Add "use max resolution checkbox+functionality" to gnome-display-properties" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35142708:52
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liwcould someone mark #349653 as "triaged"? (I'm the developer of the package, it has all the info I need, but I don't have the LP priviledges to change to triaged, just confirmed)13:20
pedro_liw: done13:25
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Hobbseeliw: why don't you have the developer privs?14:00
liwHobbsee, because I suck, mainly14:00
liw(by being lazy)14:00
Hobbseeah14:00
Hobbseeit probably only takes a mail saying "please add me to the team", based on who you are, though14:00
BUGabundoasac: around?14:17
BUGabundoI did ran that comand line you gave me to see why wifi would not connect with low signal14:18
BUGabundonothing to special there....14:18
BUGabundoit didn't hopped channel14:18
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bddebianBoo15:17
thekornhello bddebian15:18
Hobbseeargh!  you scared me, bddebian!  ;)15:19
bddebianHi the15:19
bddebianErr thekorn15:19
bddebianHeya Hobbsee!15:19
BUGabundofoo15:20
dominiksbug 98626 was closed in Debian 3 days ago.. how long does it take for LP to reflect status changes of bugs in remote watch please?15:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 98626 in checkstyle "please add command line program" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9862615:30
hggdhdominiks, should be at most one day15:53
yofelcould somebody with the rights mark bug 351389 as wishlist please16:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 351389 in ubuntu-restricted-extras "64bit restricted extras should use 64bit flash and java plugins" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35138916:01
BUGabundoyofel: they better!16:04
BUGabundoits going to take a while on both counts16:04
BUGabundoadobe flash install package is no where to be fund16:04
BUGabundo*found16:04
BUGabundoand even if we have java 64 bits16:05
BUGabundothere is not applet16:05
dominikshggdh: thanks for info.. i'll just wait bit more then :)16:05
hggdhyofel, we cannot sanely provide an alpha version of flash as the official distribution16:06
yofelok16:06
* hggdh also wishes for the 64-bit flash...16:07
BUGabundohggdh: I use 64bits no prob there16:08
BUGabundojust don't have source :(16:08
BUGabundojava on the other hand is trieker16:08
BUGabundobut that's over my head.... no idea what lacks to make the applet16:08
hggdhBUGabundo, the issue is not if it seems to work, but the fact it is *alpha*: guaranteed to be unstable...16:13
BUGabundohggdh: hasn't give me any trouble16:14
BUGabundoother then some PA issues16:14
BUGabundobut latest PA works fine16:14
BUGabundoas you can see on my webcam stream16:14
hggdhI do not doubt it; I just do not see a reason to add an alpha version of a package in an official distribution. Of course, nothing against having it in a PPA, for example16:15
BUGabundothat's the 2nd prob16:16
BUGabundognomefreak already tried ti16:16
BUGabundobut there is no secure sourse of the package16:16
gnomefreakhuh?16:16
BUGabundono md5, nothing16:16
BUGabundohey gnomefreak16:16
gnomefreakhi BUGabundo16:17
BUGabundojust talking about flash 64bits packaign16:17
BUGabundosomeone oned yet another wish bug to packaged it16:17
gnomefreaklet one of the motu guys worry about that there is alot of changes to files/scripts16:17
gnomefreakthat are needed16:17
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bond`who maintains flashplugin-nonfree?18:05
jpdsI think it's being replaced by adobe-flashplugin in the partner repo.18:05
BUGabundogym time ppl! see you tomorrow18:06
bond`jpds: so flashplugin-nonfree should not be used anymore?18:12
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keesbdmurray: is there a bzr tree anywhere for scripts for doing common bug repsonses?18:49
bdmurraykees: via launchpadlib?18:49
keesright18:49
bdmurrayno, I think that would fit well in ubuntu-qa-tools though18:49
bdmurrayI've a couple I've been meaning to add18:50
keeswhat's the url for that?18:50
sbeattiemutt-scripts/b-tool should be easy to extend in that direction.18:50
keesthe security team wants to push our scripts out into the public18:50
bdmurraylp:ubuntu-qa-tools ;-)18:50
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keesbdmurray: okay, I just shoved a mess of stuff in there.  I'll probably move lpl_common.py to ubuntu-dev-tools when karmic opens19:21
jpdskees: You can do so now if you like, I  don't plan to make any more u-d-t uploads till karmic.19:30
keesjpds: okay19:31
greg_Can anyone confirm that, while using the 9.04 beta, a "side by side" install might take a while, without any notification, before progressing to the "who are you? page?19:40
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Ryan52kees: heh. should I just ask you directly instead of filing bugs next time? :P20:23
* Ryan52 notes that ryanakca's changes didn't even work..20:23
keesRyan52: well, file bugs, but ping me, yeah.  I've reworked the whole thing now, so one can use --distro=debian and it should work.20:52
keesRyan52: mostly I didn't like the multiple tests for "if debian".  it needed to be much more generalized20:53
keeshowever, having a patch to work from helps greatly to see which pieces needed to be abstracted.20:53
Ryan52ok, thanks.20:56
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donspauldingpython's virtualenv utility is broken with python2.6 on jaunty.  The only bug I can find for this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/339904 which doesn't have any solution in sight.  A similar issue (though I'm not sure it is an identical problem) is reported as fixed upstream at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518826 .  How can I verify if the upstream package fixes the virtualenv issue?21:19
ubottuUbuntu bug 339904 in python-virtualenv "python-virtualenv doesn't work with Python 2.6.x" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:19
donspauldingi.e.  I'm willing to go out and install the debian package, if that won't totally hose my system.21:22
maxbhosing potential is sufficiently high that I wouldn't try that on *my* system23:19
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maxbdonspaulding: What does virtualenv do and how might I test it, anyway?23:27
BodsdaHi, im having problems using gdb, the wiki says to use ctrl+c after continue to go to the next step of debugging an already running application, but ctrl+c stops gdb completely23:27
BodsdaO1;2P23:28
Bodsdaoops23:28
maxbBodsda: Which wiki page do you refer to?23:29
Bodsdamaxb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace#Already%20running%20programs23:29
maxbBodsda: I think you are misreading the wiki. It says to use Ctrl-C to break into the (gdb) prompt23:33
Bodsdamaxb: im not sure what you mean, step 5: The program will continue running. Perform any actions necessary to reproduce the crash. If the program hangs but doesn't crash you can press ctrl+c in gdb while the program is frozen and then continue with the next step. -- i read that as meaning press ctrl+c to get back to the (gdb) prompt23:35
AmpelbeinBodsda: only if the program freezes23:37
AmpelbeinBodsda: if it crashes you are back at the gdb-prompt23:37
BodsdaAmpelbein: the program is already frozen -- the section of the wiki im quoting is headed "Already running programs"23:38
Bodsdathe program is gnome-panel, and it is frozen upon login23:38
AmpelbeinBodsda: can you give a screenshot explaining? you attach via gdb --pid <pidofgnome-panel> ?23:39
BodsdaAmpelbein: I attach by doing exactly as it says in step three of the already running programs section https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace#Already%20running%20programs  A screenshot wont help, the panels appear normal, but are completely non-responsive23:41
Ampelbeina screenshot of the gdb-prompt23:41
BodsdaAmpelbein: what are you hoping to see?23:42
AmpelbeinBodsda: where you want to type ctrl-c.23:42
Ampelbeinctrl-c only makes sense after continuing23:43
Ampelbeinotherwise you can just do the backtrace23:43
seb128Bodsda: just run gdb --pid $(pidof gnome-panel)23:43
seb128and they you can "bt"23:43
Bodsdasorry, im trying something someone suggested in #ubntu+1, il be back in a sec23:44
Bodsdagot it to work23:47
Bodsdafollowed these instructions: < syockit> Bodsda: (1) run gdb without any parameters, i.e. just gdb (2) follow the steps until before attach (3) do  the following: set logging file gdb-<program>.txt (4) do: set logging on (5) attach the process (6) do: c   to continue (7) ctrl-c to return to gdb (8) q to quit at any time23:47
Bodsdathanks guys23:47
Bodsdahey Rocket2DMn23:47
donspauldingmaxb: sorry, wasn't watching this window23:47
maxbdonspaulding: Looks to me like the package may be completely broken by the Python changes in Jaunty...23:47
donspauldingyou can sudo a-g install virtualenv23:48
donspauldingerr, python-virtualenv, that is23:48
donspauldingmaxb: yes, that's what it looks like23:48
donspauldingmaxb: virtualenv let's you isolate working environments when developing python applications.23:48
donspauldinge.g. you can install two different versions of django on the same machine and each environment keeps track of which library it has installed.23:49
maxbThe package builds fine if you add an --install-layout=deb to the setup.py install command, but it still doesn't work.  I think it's going to require source changes to accomodate the changed python default layout23:50
donspauldingmaxb: it's an incredibly useful tool, and it'll be the first thing hundreds of python devs try to use as soon as jaunty is released, so I think it ought to get fixed before jaunty rolls out, if at all possible.23:51
donspauldingwhat caused the shift from site-packages to dist-packages?23:51
JanCavoiding problems with some upstream python libraries when you install them manually, I think23:55
JanCdonspaulding: so partially the same reason why you use virtualenv I suppose...  ;-)23:57
donspauldingJanC: yeah, virtualenv will one day rule the python packaging world, it's just not there yet ;-)23:57
JanCwell, it's mainly useful if you want to "container" a specific python + libraries for one application, right?23:59
JanCOTOH I think that what Debian/Ubuntu want is that their system-wide install keeps working23:59

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