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vadi2hi. sorry for being thick, but the script did not output any results when finished. am I supposed to fill them in manually?01:03
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JanChm, there is no ext4 support in intrepid, right?05:49
JanCapparently, there is...05:51
amitkJanC: there is support in the installer, but not as defualt07:20
JanCamitk: in intrepid?  (ext4 wasn't officially in the kernel before 2.6.28)07:23
JanCnot officially supported I mean (there was ext4dev)07:24
amitkJanC: ohh. Sorry. Not in Intrepid07:25
amitkexcept for ext4dev07:26
pwnguineven then, i find it's kinda dicey07:27
JanCthere is a bug report against gparted in intrepid not supporting ext4...07:27
JanCand the gparted version in intrepid doesn't support it, but the one in jaunty does07:28
JanCbut as ext4 isn't supported in intrepid, I don't really see the point of that bug  ;)07:29
amitkI don't see us backporting ext4 to intrepid07:30
JanCamitk: at least the -server kernel in 8.10 has -ext4dev enabled (didn't check with -desktop kernel)07:31
JanCbut that's not really the same as officially supported07:34
pwnguinits dev07:34
pwnguinnot even the kernel officially supported that module ;)07:35
cwillu_cloneCan I draw anyone's attention to https://launchpad.net/bugs/33082408:52
ubot3Malone bug 330824 in linux "Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28" [Undecided,Confirmed] 08:52
Unggnuhi all09:23
UnggnuBecause there isn't so much time until release I just wanted to point to Bug #350137 . Ath5k shipped with Jaunty seems to be really buggy. Crashes system, looses packets and so on. Backport module seems to work fine so I think it should be replaced.09:25
ubot3Malone bug 350137 in linux "Jaunty ath5k freezes system and looses packets" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35013709:25
UnggnuThere also seem to be several similar bug reports.09:25
Ngin relation to the suspend/resume testing, I have a thinkpad X40 at home which has generally done suspend/resume reliably since I've had it, but after upgrading it to jaunty it won't suspend. The various debugging guides seem to assume that suspend works and resume fails - what debugging can I do to figure out what's breaking it?09:43
Ngit does a bit of disk activity, the blinking suspend light never starts, and then it locks the screen09:44
UnggnuNg: Do you have an Intel graphic card?10:01
NgUnggnu: yes10:01
Ngit's an 855GM10:01
Unggnuthis might be the problem, at least for me10:01
Unggnu8xx are really bad supported in newer drivers afaik10:02
UnggnuNg: Do you have a standard xorg.conf?10:03
NgUnggnu: the machine is at home, but I would think so, it was re-installed with hardy and my gf uses it, so it's unlikely I'd have fiddled with that stuff10:03
UnggnuNg: You could try suspend with vesa to be sure I guess.10:05
NgI'll give it a go and get a bug filed I guess10:07
UnggnuNg: there are several already, search for 855 and intel.10:09
UnggnuBut of course only if they fit10:09
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Kamping_Kaiserbug #29238111:26
ubot3Malone bug 292381 in linux "[hardy] kernel 2.6.24-21-generic and gcc version mismatch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29238111:26
Kamping_Kaiseraw. no bot :\11:26
Kamping_Kaiserheh. snap.11:26
Kamping_Kaiserapw, i was wondering if there was any news on that bug. cjwatson said a USN was going to be announced, but I certainly havent seen one (and the bug status remains the same)11:28
apwhrm no i have lost track of that one a bit.  will bring it up today11:30
Kamping_Kaiserthanks. 11:31
nachohi12:09
nacho since I've reinstalled the cpu freq applet starts with the processor on performance mode, do you know how to change it to ondemand mode? (I can change it in the applet but next time I reboot it goes to performance mode again)12:09
nachoBTW this happens on jaunty 32 bits12:10
Kamping_Kaiserperhaps try cpufreq-set12:10
NCommanderapw, I finally got around to testing your patches for the jax10 on real hardware; https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/28066913:23
ubot3Malone bug 280669 in linux "DMA mode and driver jax10" [Low,Triaged] 13:24
apwmaxb, the lbm regressions with lbm_cfg80211_reg=EU etc, were you able to test on both jaunty and intrepid?13:32
smb_tpapw, What where the base for both test packages? Will we probably have to retest Intrepid with the minimum fix applied there?13:33
apwsmb_tp, yeah we will.  hense hastling maxb about it as he has something to test with :)13:34
apwi t13:34
apwhe tested the jaunty update which is basically the same as intrepid with my patch, but not i think on intrepid13:34
smb_tpOk, cool. Yeah I think it is best to leave compat-wireless at its current state with intrepid. While newer version give more support they tended to break stuff sometimes13:35
smb_tpEspecially since we now have different policies about crda13:35
apwyep concur.  will prepare an lbm with the patch only for intrepif (lbm-2.6.27) and see if we can find a tester13:35
smb_tpThumbs up :)13:35
apwsmb_tp, one last aspire one rfkill test kernel for you if you have the time to test it13:59
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apwthe upstream for the driver turned up in my bug :)  and asked for the final patch which this hopefully is13:59
smb_tpapw, sure13:59
smb_tpYeah, I saw the mails14:00
smb_tp:)14:00
apwthey are just uploading now, so about 5 mins at: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apw/lp319825-jaunty/14:00
smb_tpLEt me fire up the aspire14:00
apwsmb_tp, uploaded14:05
smb_tpapw, ok, downloaded14:06
smb_tpOk, wireless is there. Is it supposed to print something?14:15
apwno it prints something if you have sw rfkill enabled, that lack of a messsage to that effect and working wireless is a good resule14:19
smb_tpok, sounds good14:19
* apw is starting to get the feeling that wireless is less reliable in jaunty -11 kernels than it was in -814:49
apwintel wireless14:49
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Keybukrtg: so I'm confused again about this whole PAE thing17:30
rtgKeybuk: how so?17:31
Keybukwhy can't it be compiled into our generic i386 kernel and enabled if the processor supports it?17:31
mjg59Because that would involve somebody writing the code to support that17:32
Keybukit's just a code issue, right17:32
KeybukI heard tell that there was no way to do that17:32
Keybukbut that appears to be false17:32
rtgKeybuk: AFAIK its not a dynamic selection, e.g., its a statically compile option. I think PAE adds another level of page table complexity.17:32
mjg59The code isn't conditional. You'd need something like the SMP/UP rewriting17:33
Keybukok, so it's a Linux kernel limitation17:36
Keybuknot a "there's no way to detect whether the processor supports PAE" issue17:37
Keybuksince the processor clearly has a "pae" flag <g>17:37
rtgKeybuk: pretty much17:37
mdzapw: heads up on regression bug 35049118:20
ubot3Malone bug 350491 in linux "hibernation should be disallowed from the desktop when the installed kernel does not match the running kernel" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35049118:21
apwmdz, t18:21
apwso we don't check any more then18:21
keesmdz: is that a regression?18:21
mdzkees: yes it is, we fixed that in feisty18:22
keesah, okay, I didn't realize that.18:22
mdzkees: the kernel already touches a flag file when it's upgraded, we just stopped checking for it18:23
mdzprobably in getting rid of powermanagement-interface18:23
* kees nods18:23
mdzshould be easy enough to add back18:24
keesmdz: should that be mile-stoned?18:24
mdzkees: probably18:25
apwyep its not a big job, just good to catch that its missing18:25
mdzapw: bug 350609 may be another example of a WARNING which doesn't justify bug reports18:26
ubot3Malone bug 350609 in linux "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.28/kernel/power/main.c:177 suspend_test_finish+0x7c/0x80()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35060918:26
mdzapw: I was wondering if we should simply exclude WARNINGs in the apport hook18:26
apwmdz thats another which really should not be a warning at all18:26
apwmost warnings in the kernel real things to report in general18:27
mdzI almost wrote it, then realized that because the oops text isn't very well delimited, I would need to duplicate a bunch of code from kerneloops18:27
apwthis one really is not a panic level issue, there is simply no category for it18:27
apwa message noone reads, or something which explodes your world are the options18:27
mdzapw: triaged accordingly18:27
apwhrm.  perhaps it should be turned into something apport detects, but it also need to have a variable time for once its been seen and nothing can be done18:28
peerlessearthquake here19:06
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peerlessHow  to add a module in initramfs?19:25
IntuitiveNipplepeerless: add it to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules19:26
peerlessWhere should I place the modules?19:27
IntuitiveNippleIt will find them from the existing installed modules via the depmod info19:27
peerlessI am just trying a test module built out of kernel19:28
peerlessFiguring out how to include that in initramfs19:28
peerlesscopy_modules_dir 20:16
peerlessthere is a function by that name..trying it20:16
maxbapw: I do have a seldom-used intrepid partition on my Aspire One, I can make specific lbm tests on request22:49
raevoldo we know what kernel is going into karmic? sorry if this is the wrong place to ask23:25
maxbI've no idea how final it is, but see the description at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-karmic.git;a=summary23:35
raevolhmm ok, thanks maxb23:38
raevolgotta run for now23:38

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