[00:06] <Randall44> Hello, I need help with getting  TV out on a GeForce MX440 working
[00:07] <Randall44> I have the following confuration:
[00:07] <Randall44> P4 3.0 GHZ
[00:07] <Randall44> 1 gig Memory
[00:07] <Randall44> Onboard video (disabled by Geforce MX440 card)
[00:07] <Randall44> Loaded Nvidia propriatary drivers.
[00:07] <Randall44> TV out onlyworks when in Twin View.
[00:08] <Randall44> Tried link located here, but none of the suggestions work
[00:08] <Randall44> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[00:29] <Randall44> I am running mythbuntu version 8.04
[00:29] <Randall44> Anybody?
[01:31] <Randall44> Anybody out there?
[01:34] <foxbuntu> Randall44, once you have asked your question it is impolite to continue asking or bumping it every few minutes, please ask your question and wait. Someone will come along to help you as they have time.
[01:36] <Randall44> Thanks for noticing but 4 PM to 5: 30 is not every few minutes.  Thanks for noticing!
[01:48] <id1402> hello.
[01:49] <id1402> i have problems installing.
[01:49] <id1402> please help.
[01:49] <id1402> i will describe.
[01:49] <id1402> i burned http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-8.10-desktop-proper-i386.iso.
[01:49] <id1402> md5sum of cd ok.
[01:50] <id1402> than it boots normally.
[01:50] <id1402> finally comes login screen.
[01:50] <id1402> User Ubuntu will login in 30 seconds
[01:50] <id1402> again and again.
[01:51] <id1402> i figured out that's a graphic card problem.
[01:51] <id1402> i read this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=842093
[01:51] <id1402> of course i raid installation manual pdf.
[01:52] <id1402> here my hardware.
[01:52] <id1402> i have grahic onboard.
[01:52] <id1402> on a chip on maiboard is "vt8235" written.
[01:52] <id1402> on another chip "vt6103".
[01:53] <id1402> so what should i do to get graphic working?
[01:53] <id1402> this mainboard works with suse well.
[01:55] <id1402> tomorrow i will look what driver suse uses for this grahic card.
[01:56] <id1402> i could run lspci and post the output in the forum thread.
[02:27] <foxbuntu> id1402, try this disk instead: http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso
[02:36] <id1402> ok.
[03:01] <id1402> good night.
[06:48] <hein_> Good morning from Germany.
[06:50] <hein_> I've a question. I setup a new mediaserver with mythtv. I've on DVB-S card Hauppauge WinTV HD S", that works fine. Now I'll instlla a second card, a Tecnhisat Skystar HD 2. As far as I read it, the second card needs a so called s2lilipan (or so) driver and my Hauppauge card runs with the v4l driver. Is it possible to install both drivers?
[09:35] <hein_> qustion possible?
[15:21] <slakr> hmm... is it just me or is the site down? :(
[15:24] <rhpot1991> looks like it
[15:27] <slakr> ah well... found a mirror for thet image anyway *shrug* :P
[15:27] <slakr> the*
[15:27] <slakr> I'd have just used netboot, but I don't really wanna resolve the conflicts with ltsp
[15:35] <slakr> anyway, cheers =)
[16:18] <Ymse> Hi what user level is there on this #??? Have some newbee questions.....
[16:24] <brewmaster> what's the difference between a channel's 'name' and its 'callsign' in mythtv?
[16:25] <brewmaster> i don't see the 'name' displayed anywhere
[16:25] <tgm4883> !ask | Ymse
[16:25] <Zinn> Ymse: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[16:27] <Ymse> oki ;) First problem is that my Harddrive is not bootable after I have installed Mythubuntu. How can I fix that?
[16:59] <foxbuntu> brewmaster, the Name is the Display name shown on screen, the callsign is the name used to identify the channel from your provider, MythTV uses this to match up the data from your data source (ie. Schedules Direct)
[18:10] <genii> I'm trying to set up a firewire connection to my cable box. The firewire test shows p2p packets, etc. But nothing on channels 0-4 or 62,63
[18:10] <genii> "partial lock" usually
[18:11] <genii> (with 100% signal).  STB is a Pace DC155PF, OS is 8.04
[18:12] <genii> DC551PF  rather ...
[18:19] <Penfold> woah. clearly I need to go home, since my first reaction was 'Did MacOS 8 support firewire?'
[18:19] <Penfold> :D
[18:25]  * genii hands Penfold a large coffee
[18:26] <genii> (K)ubuntu 8.04 ("Hardy Heron")
[18:26] <Penfold> to be fair, I have just been speccing a quadcore hackintosh :D
[18:29] <gumpert345> hi, I have been to the mythbuntu website to look for a jaunty trunk repo, but all I could download was a .deb file that didnt do anything, what happend?
[18:30] <gumpert345> !trunk
[18:30] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about trunk
[18:31] <gumpert345> !jaunty
[18:31] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about jaunty
[18:51] <genii> !info myth-backend jaunty
[18:51] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about info myth-backend jaunty
[19:07] <brewmaster> this might be a silly question: what is the max resolution for over-the-air broadcasts these days?  The stuff I record is 1920x1080, but how do I know if that's "1080i" or "1080p"?
[19:13] <darthanubis> gumpert345, http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[19:13] <darthanubis> gumpert345, https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/ppa
[19:14] <superm1> gumpert345, that deb sets up trunk
[19:14] <superm1> when you install it it put the apt-key and repo in
[19:16] <gumpert345> I see, thats a good idea, a lot easier, than adding the repos by hand, does it check for your version by itself?
[19:16] <rhpot1991> brewmaster: should be 1080i
[19:16] <rhpot1991> as far as I know no one broadcasts 1080p yet
[19:17] <rhpot1991> in the US that is
[19:18] <brewmaster> rhpot1991: yeah, that's what i figured...
[19:18] <Ymse> I have a huge problem with my boot loader...........and the file system on my HD......
[19:19] <brewmaster> not that it matters, with my ghetto analog tv :P
[19:23] <superm1> gumpert345, the versions on the repos will be newer than whats in hardy intrepid and jaunty
[19:23] <superm1> so it won't need to do any checks - apt does it all for you
[19:23] <superm1> just open up update-manager, synaptic, or apt-get and check for updates
[19:23] <superm1> gumpert345, it was tgm4883's idea, so thank him for coming up with it and implementing it.  I think it's totally awesome :)
[19:24] <gumpert345> superm i meant: does the deb file check whether i am using jaunty or intrepid?
[19:24] <superm1> gumpert345, ah yeah it does.  it puts the proper line in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for jaunty or intrepid
[19:24] <superm1> it uses lsb_release to figure out what you are using
[19:26] <gumpert345> tgm4883 the deb file for trunk updates is a very nice idea, and works! thanks
[19:27] <tgm4883> gumpert345, your welcome
[19:27] <tgm4883> wasn't that hard to put together either, so now there is one for -testing and my personal PPA
[19:50] <darthanubis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1105313&page=2
[19:51] <darthanubis> "There are issues with LIRC in general on 64-bit kernels and this especially affects the PVR-150's."
[19:51] <darthanubis> is this true?
[19:51] <darthanubis> because my remote and lirc worked in 8.10
[19:51] <darthanubis> now 9.04 lirc fails
[19:52] <darthanubis> I go through this with each new ubuntu release, it's getting old:(
[19:52] <superm1> darthanubis, what caused breakage?
[19:53] <superm1> i wasn't aware of any such lirc breakage like that
[19:53] <darthanubis> it seems just the upgrade to 9.04 broke lirc
[19:53] <superm1> well is it the kernel that broke it though?
[19:53] <superm1> can you try it with an 8.10 kernel?
[19:53] <darthanubis> yeah the server won't start, compile or anything for me yet
[19:53] <superm1> it needs to be isolated
[19:53] <darthanubis> I don't have any 8.10 stuff around anymore
[19:54] <superm1> grab the 8.10 kernel then from launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux to try it
[20:09] <bmsleight> Hi, I have been running my myth machine for a about three years. Time for a hardware upgrade. I am thinking of 3 of (Hauppauge Nova-T 500 dual digital TV tuner) - giving 6 unique feeds. To give extra flexibility or even more cards.   So the question is how many tuner cards is silly ?
[20:11] <rhpot1991> 18
[20:12] <bmsleight> Wow - 18 cards ?
[20:12] <rhpot1991> Just picked a large number :)
[20:12] <bmsleight> :)
[20:14] <foxbuntu> bmsleight, uh...I have 11
[20:14] <foxbuntu> :)
[20:14] <foxbuntu> I keep getting told its overkill/unnecessary...but I like it anyways :)
[20:17] <bmsleight> rhpot1991:  Ok - 7 Duals ?
[20:17] <bmsleight> I want to record lots of UK - Digital TV. Always have +/- 5 mins
[20:17] <bmsleight> mpeg-2 streams
[20:17] <darthanubis> btw mythtv-status and mythzoneminder are also broken for me. Zoneminder because the It seems the kernels since 8.10 broke modules for my webcam by Creative. mythtv-status keeps mailing some error I don't have atm. I'll provide details in a few.
[20:18] <tgm4883> bmsleight, well keep in mind that you can record multiple channels from a multiplex with a single tuner
[20:18] <rhpot1991> bmsleight: nope, 7 total
[20:19] <rhpot1991> I have one dual tuner HDHR, and we don't have fancy things like multirec in the US here
[20:19] <bmsleight> tgm4883: Cool - I don't think I have that at the moment - thanks
[20:19] <rhpot1991> bmsleight: 7 is overkill for me, but it all depends, the most I ever use at once is 4 I think
[20:19] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, wha? no multirec?
[20:19] <rhpot1991> and some of those could have been pushed back and recorded later
[20:20] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: not for HDHR, some things might
[20:20] <tgm4883> oh
[20:20] <tgm4883> misunderstood you then
[20:21] <bmsleight> At the moment with one dual card, I have lots conflict if I record program +/- 5 mins.
[20:21] <rhpot1991> bmsleight: so you record everything 5 mins extra?
[20:21] <bmsleight> Thanks for the pointers - I may go for 3 dual turners
[20:22] <bmsleight> rhpot1991: I would like to record to, but do not at the moment, Hence, even with ntp, I get 1 / 20 missed ending of programs in the UK
[20:23] <rhpot1991> bmsleight: I've had a few of those but for the most part mine are ok, you tend to learn which ones run a little long and adjust
[20:24] <bmsleight> In my current system (especially at 20:00) I do not have enough feeds to do overruns.
[20:25] <darthanubis> mythweb does not show the mythvideo module either
[20:25] <darthanubis> just some observations
[20:40] <darthanubis> 	[ -x /etc/init.d/mythtv-status ] && /etc/init.d/mythtv-status reload > /dev/null
[20:40] <darthanubis> Date: 	Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:30:02 -0400
[20:40] <darthanubis> mv: cannot stat `/var/run/motd.new': No such file or directory
[20:41] <darthanubis> can't have mythtv-status installed without local mail getting spammed with this message
[20:41] <darthanubis> can't someone just remove this cron job from the mythtv-status script?
[20:42] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: then it wont work at all
[20:42] <rhpot1991> the cron job updates the motd
[20:42] <darthanubis> :(
[20:43] <rhpot1991> and I think populates some of the items you see when you run mythtv-status
[20:43] <genii> darthanubis: Have you done:   sudo touch /var/run/motd.new           ?
[20:43] <darthanubis> I always get the weird s*&%
[20:43] <darthanubis> genii, yup
[20:43] <rhpot1991> I think there was a bug on LP for this
[20:43] <genii> darthanubis: Is it also owned by mythtv user?
[20:44] <darthanubis> I think so as well, but I don't follow bugs, the ones affecting me seems ot never get fixed.
[20:44] <darthanubis> genii, of course
[20:45] <genii> Is it's permissions also set +rw   or so?
[20:45] <rhpot1991> I'm not sure it should exist
[20:45] <rhpot1991> doesn't on my system
[20:45] <darthanubis> rhpot1991, what do you mean your not sure it should exist?
[20:57] <darthanubis> /etc/init.d/lirc start
[20:57] <darthanubis>  * Loading LIRC modules                                                                                                          [ OK ]
[20:57] <darthanubis>  * Unable to load LIRC kernel modules. Verify your
[20:57] <darthanubis>  * selected kernel modules in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[20:57] <darthanubis> oops
[20:58] <darthanubis> after modprobing my modules the remote works again
[20:58] <darthanubis> but it should be doing this by itself from boot
[20:58] <darthanubis> so superm1 it does not appear to be that this 9.04 kernel does not work.
[21:04] <darthanubis> enough constructive criticism, overall, 9.04 is currently running stable, and I can still record my shows just fine. Just little rough around the edges. But each time by full release, things are generally working.
[21:05] <darthanubis> Keep up the good work guys!
[21:14] <gbutters_work> !bug 351773
[21:14] <Zinn> Bug 351773 in mythbuntu "Unable to access video devices" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/351773
[21:15] <gbutters_work> !bug 351769
[21:15] <Zinn> Bug 351769 in mythbuntu "Nofication box opens behind open windows" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/351769
[21:18] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: I wonder if you have a different issue with mythtv-status, it creates the file right before it tries to move it
[21:19] <rhpot1991> and I think that part is running as sudo as well (croned)
[21:21] <darthanubis> but it seems the system maintains that file
[21:21] <darthanubis> and keeps permissions set to root
[21:21] <rhpot1991> oh wait, it exists?
[21:21] <darthanubis> mythtv-status shoudl just be reading the file, why is it trying to mv it?
[21:22] <darthanubis> yeah it exisits
[21:22] <rhpot1991> mv: cannot stat `/var/run/motd.new': No such file or directory
[21:22] <rhpot1991> indicates it doesn't exist
[21:22] <darthanubis> I know what it indicates
[21:22] <rhpot1991> ls -la /var/run/motd.new
[21:22] <rhpot1991> whats that return?
[21:22] <darthanubis> wait
[21:22] <darthanubis> I'm sorry man
[21:23] <darthanubis> motd.new
[21:23] <rhpot1991> ya motd is what the current one is
[21:23] <rhpot1991> mythtv-status makes motd.new then moves it over motd
[21:23] <darthanubis> no no motd.new just motd
[21:24] <darthanubis> well motd.new is not being created then
[21:24] <rhpot1991> let me figure out where this bash script ends up then you can run it by hand
[21:24] <darthanubis> k
[21:24] <rhpot1991> heh weird, changelog says it no longer ships it
[21:25] <rhpot1991> this is a new version right?
[21:26] <superm1> darthanubis, check the modinfo on the kernel modules and see what's up with them.  try to modprobe them yourself etc
[21:26] <superm1> once you can get the main part of the bug sorted/figured out, can get it fixed
[21:27] <darthanubis> k
[21:29] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: run: sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-status restart
[21:29] <rhpot1991> error free?
[21:29] <darthanubis> superm1, http://pastebin.com/d7ced4e2c
[21:30] <superm1> darthanubis, okay so they're built and available.  try to modprobe them and see what happens
[21:30] <superm1> then checkout dmesg
[21:31] <darthanubis> rhpot1991, yes error free
[21:31] <darthanubis> superm1, they modprobe just fine
[21:31] <Ymse> PLease help me-........I tried for 10 hours to configure my system...................how should I configure the partiions on mythbuntu?
[21:31] <superm1> darthanubis, then try rerunning the init script and see if it still complains about that stuff
[21:31] <superm1> and check your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[21:32] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/d3b2c2412
[21:32] <darthanubis> hardware.conf is fine
[21:32] <darthanubis> /etc/init.d/lirc start
[21:32] <darthanubis>  * Loading LIRC modules                                                                                                          [ OK ]
[21:32] <darthanubis>  * Unable to load LIRC kernel modules. Verify your
[21:32] <darthanubis>  * selected kernel modules in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[21:35] <darthanubis> os[Linux 2.6.28-11-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "jaunty" 9.04] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz] mem[Physical: 7.7GB, 72.4% free] disk[Total: 846.6GB, 32.8% free] video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
[21:36] <darthanubis> just in case you were wondering
[21:36] <superm1> hm interesting.  can you pastebin hardware.conf too then?
[21:37] <darthanubis> sure:)
[21:37] <superm1> darthanubis, someone just pointed this out: bug 344871
[21:37] <Zinn> Bug 344871 in mythbuntu "Lirc doesn't load modules" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/344871
[21:37] <superm1> that sounds like it might be it
[21:38] <superm1> can you try removing the -k from /etc/init.d/lirc?
[21:38] <darthanubis> I can try sure
[21:38] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/d7c65ae81
[21:39] <superm1> yeah that hardware.conf looks good indeed
[21:40] <darthanubis> modprobe -k $mod 2> /dev/null || MODULES_MISSING=true remove "-k" from this line? Line 25 for me.
[21:41] <darthanubis> I guess it is the onle "-k"
[21:41] <darthanubis> only
[21:42] <darthanubis> /etc/init.d/lirc start
[21:42] <darthanubis>  * Loading LIRC modules                                                                                                          [ OK ]
[21:42] <darthanubis>  * Starting remote control daemon(s) : LIRC                                                                                      [fail]
[21:42] <darthanubis> not the same error, but I get the FAIL part
[21:43] <superm1> so that fixes the main error at least.  try running the script with restart as an argument instead then
[21:43] <darthanubis> prefect :!
[21:43] <darthanubis> :)
[21:44] <darthanubis> well that's THAT!
[21:44] <darthanubis> Thanks superm1 I missed you:)
[21:44] <superm1> darthanubis, add a comment to the bug that that fixed it and can catch it in the next lirc bug triage
[21:44] <darthanubis> np
[21:46] <darthanubis> done
[21:56] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: btw how is mythexport treating you?
[21:57] <darthanubis> I have not used it much since you fixed it and got it working for me:)
[21:57] <darthanubis> I'm taking a trip at the end of the week and will see if I can get video on my Creative Zen
[21:58] <darthanubis> I guess I don't need nuvexport anymore, since I don't record to .nuv
[21:58] <darthanubis> Will mythexport work with .nuvs?
[21:59] <rhpot1991> in theory
[21:59] <darthanubis> I remember a while back you advised not to record to .nuv as to beeter remove commercials and whatnot from my recordings. So that by the time mythexport got around to transcoding them the recordins whould have no commercials
[21:59] <rhpot1991> I believe I had someone tell me it did
[21:59] <darthanubis> interesting
[22:00] <darthanubis> That would be awesome
[22:00] <rhpot1991> really the question boils down to, does ffmpeg like them and I think it does
[22:00] <darthanubis> because I could save gobs of diskspace
[22:01]  * rhpot1991 prefers to just buy larger drives instead of compressing
[22:01] <rhpot1991> I do cut commercials and do mpeg2 lossless for shows I keep though
[22:02] <Ymse> I can't get GRUB to work on my mythbuntu................the computer recognize the IDE harddrive as a SCSI.............
[22:02] <rhpot1991> Ymse: I think evertying shows up as /dev/sd* anymore, sata or pata
[22:03] <Ymse> oki.............but I still can't get the freaking computer to boot from the HD.............
[22:06] <darthanubis> rhpot1991, Yeah my next HD purchase will be the 1TB for aprox $90
[22:07] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: 1.5tb is the sweet spot now
[22:07] <rhpot1991> can score that for 100-110
[22:07]  * rhpot1991 just got one
[22:08] <darthanubis> sounds good
[22:08] <darthanubis> is that an internal drive?
[22:08] <rhpot1991> yep sata2
[22:08] <rhpot1991> seagate
[22:09] <rhpot1991> they dropped the warranty from 5 years to 3, but still
[22:20] <darthanubis> newegg?
[22:23] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: yep
[22:24] <rhpot1991> tigerdirect sometimes has decent prices too, normally not as good as newegg though
[22:24] <darthanubis> sweet, I love newegg
[22:25] <hads> The 1.5TB Seagates are werid
[22:25] <rhpot1991> hads: if you have an old version you need to firmware flash them, that issue is gone by now though
[22:26] <hads> Yeah, I've had 1 DOA, 2 with the firmware thing and 1 which showed up as a 500GB drive on some motherboards.
[22:26] <rhpot1991> weird my backend doesn't want to use my HDHR properly tonight, keeps defaulting a recording to firewire
[22:26] <rhpot1991> heh hads you adopted too early :)
[22:27] <hads> I'm not using them myself, that was for others :)
[22:27] <hads> I'm quite liking the WD GP series myself actually.
[22:27] <rhpot1991> hads: I've heard complaints of them being slow
[22:28] <hads> Yeah, they are a little slower than the Seagates but have been plenty fast enough for me as media drives.
[22:29] <hads> Probably wouldn't use one as a / drive though.
[22:30]  * hads would use an Intel SSD if they didn't cost a million dollars
[23:37] <slick666> Hi all
[23:37] <slick666> I'm having a problem with mythtv and I'm trying to resolve it so I can record a show in 3 hours
[23:38] <slick666> When tuning a channel the Mythbox locked up completely
[23:38] <slick666> after doing a hard reboot it's asking me for the "Database Configuration"
[23:39] <slick666> I have no Idea where to start
[23:39] <slick666> can anyone give me some pointers?
[23:47] <superm1> slick666, check for bad hardware to start
[23:47] <superm1> a quick hard drive check, and memory check are best
[23:47] <superm1> followed by booting up off a live disk and run a file system fsck
[23:48] <slick666> you think the hard drive could be bad?
[23:48] <slick666> the system seems to boot up fine
[23:49] <slick666> internet, other things non-myth seems to work fine
[23:51] <slick666> I was hoping to configure the database just so I can get things running tonight
[23:51] <slick666> I can swap hardware do some testing later on this week
[23:52] <superm1> well in trying to debug a complete lock up, it's always best to rule out bad hardware
[23:53] <superm1> if it's got some bad sectors that when they get read cause problems etc
[23:53] <superm1> or if your memory has some bad bits that when get written to cause problems
[23:53] <slick666> I understand
[23:54] <superm1> if you are in a time crunch and think the hardware is good however, go fsck the filesystem and run a repair on the mysql tables
[23:54] <slick666> I guess I'm looking for the "Duck-tape" fix just to get the ting running for an (if it can) and do all the analysis
[23:54] <slick666> ok
[23:54] <superm1> if things are good and working again, then check the drive(s) and memory and what not tomorrow
[23:54] <slick666> cool
[23:55] <slick666> is there a command to force the system to fsck the drive upon next boot?
[23:58] <superm1> yeah
[23:58] <superm1> i think you just touch /forcefsck
[23:58] <superm1> or something like that
[23:58] <superm1> !google it
[23:58] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about google it
[23:58] <superm1> !google
[23:58] <Zinn> This seems like a question that you probably could have solved by looking the first few results from a Google search.  Try to make sure to do the appropriate research before asking a question ( http://www.google.com/ )
[23:59] <slick666> yea
[23:59] <slick666> google helped my
[23:59] <slick666> got it
[23:59] <slick666> a more relevant question might be...